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going to figure out the best game of two thousand and seven. Yes,
everybody, it's Jeff is not here. Kind of a last minute thing.
One of the gimmicks is sick. He has to take care of her,
so sorry about that. But also you're welcome. How's it going? Shout?
Oh it's going good, Mike. I've been hella busy with a whole
bunch of stuff, and I would do nothing else right now than a podcast
with you. Tell you what? Yeah, Yeah, it's good. I'm
glad we're still able to do this. It's a busy week. I'm leaving
tomorrow to go to Minneapolis hang out with Dan Riiker, Jeff Grubb and the
wind Bag and an Apple. No no, no, not even as a
funny joke like it, like I'm not doing We're not doing any Apple.
To be clear, I keep forgetting to tell you this, Mike. I'll
just take you a lie about it. The Apple has literally nothing to do
with you. It's for a giant bomb project. Separate from that, you're
safe from the Apple. What are you talking about. We're doing a thing
with an Apple. Don't worry about it. You're doing it? What kind
of thing? We're doing a thing? You know? I don't like this.
It's a me project, if you know what that means. I was
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Sorry about that, right everybody, But the way it is, it is,
it is busy. We got this. We have the Game of the
Year stuff happening very soon. At the beginning of December, I'm traveling for
the Game Awards and all the I mean, I have Game Awards, games
Beat's doing kind of like a mini one of our events which are very business
oriented or during that also, and then there's also the Giant Bomb stuff.
So I have a lot going on in LA and that's I'm gonna I'm gonna
be there during my birthday. The sacrifices I have to make for this industry,
it's my dedication, is pretty astounding. We've only had people who celebrated
with Mike if only Yeah, right, I'll be I'll buy myself but no,
no, it's going to be fun. And then when I get home
just I'm going to be in super Christmas mode for the rest of the year.
I will say. This gives me less time to finish a couple of
games than I thought. Uh, Like I thought. I barely started on
like two because I wanted to stream it and my internet's been better, right,
So I just barely started that, and I sixteen. I gotta beat
that now before I like leave, And I might be I might be going
to LA even earlier for another thing I can't talk about, So I might
be like by the third, so you're right out of time. Ah,
So I'm got I gotta get on that. How about you? There are
there any like games that you're like really focusing on trying to finish before kind
of the end of the year, before the time game of the Year stuff
starts before end of the year. Man, I wanted to finish Balder's Game
three, but there is not a chance in hell that is happening. I'm
glad I prioritized that one like last month because I knew, like that's probably
the most important one for me to finish. So I just really like made
that front and center and kind of got through that one. Uh, Like
Winter winter break is always like RPG season for me. So that's well,
take care of that. I'll finally fire up Octopath and a bunch of other
stuff I think, like the one I want to play before the year is
done, maybe in the next couple of weeks here and everything once, Like
you know, if I'm involved with any Game of the Year talks, I
do want to get to Rezio for Mike. I probably will fire up because
that'll also be a quick, quick game overall. You know, fifteen your
first play through probably like fifteen hours. Yeah, it's like I'm familiar with
the originals at the very least I would know like the broad strokes of what
happens next. So yeah, yeah, that's exactly right now, you know
what's even though, like I know we're doing the kind of giant bomb Game
in the Year a little bit earlier in the years because we're all going to
be together for the Game Awards. The game that's the sides game of the
Year can be more of a traditional like very early January one. Like actually
then, so right, and I did have someone more time, I did
have someone ask about it. That probably will be like our topical week thing
that we do with the community and everything like that. So if you want
to get involved with that, that's probably what, like the community segment will
be what once that time of year starts rolling around. All right, let's
get into some of these news topics of the week. The Suicide Squad is
back jack. They have released the first Suicide Squad insider video, this one
focusing on story and gameplay. A bit of a red debut for this game
since its delay after a pretty disastrous showing it had, which focused a lot
on kind of the RPG elements of it, and it's kind of didn't show
very well. I think that this new video is both showing a lot better
and also still hard for me to garner a lot of enthusiasm. I will
say it's smarter than to focus on traversal, Especially for an open world superhero
game. Traversal is the most important thing. That's still the main reason why
those Spider Man games are fun to play. I think it's why Arkham City
works so was because they found a way to make Batman open world traversal a
lot of fun. I mean, even going back to games like Hulk Ultimate
Destruction. So the fact that you know kind of like, oh, these
heroes like stole this tech from these other superheroes and now they you know,
like like you kind of see familiar traversal, but with these villains that looks
pretty fun. People have kind of compared a bit to Crackdown. I see
that. On the other side, it's still I'm still skeptical of just the
basic premise. I'm not a big fan of like like goofy, dark humor
kind of stuff, which is very much the vibe here, right, Like
that's just never really been my thing. And they're also sort of not talking
about certain things in this game that I am most concerned about, like the
live service elements, like the progression, the loot to the RPG elements.
Again, there are more of these videos, I mean, so I assume
we will learn more of that. Sean, did you watch this video?
Did you have any big thoughts about it? Uh? No, which I
think is maybe representative of where I stand here. Uh. If I had
known a little more advanced I was doing this podcast, I've would have pulled
it up last night. Switch. But I will say that is indicative.
Yeah, I would admit like I couldn't. I didn't like watch the whole
thing. I kind of scrub around. Yeah, yeah, sure, But
I think that's indicative of where I'm at with this game, where I've just
never cared about it. I know, Jeff and Jan we're talking about it
on Game as Morning today. Of like, if you're a Harley Quinn sick,
oh, you probably like this. But outside that, who's like super
attached to the suicide Squad at this point? I don't know, not me,
Like I know people like them and you know, like that most recent
movie is pretty good, right, so that's probably what they're you know,
trying to attach to Yeah, but hm hm oh no, man, yeah
again, like I'm going to give it a bit of a chance, whereas
last time I was completely against it, right, and I'm okay, it's
like, hey, look maybe there's something here, maybe this can be fun.
You know, we'll wait and see. I'm not I'm not writing it
off completely say now, but I still have my doubts and I'm still skeptical.
I hope, I hope that it's good. I mean, hey,
I love it. It's still rock steady, right, still rock steady.
Yeah, Samoa Joe's there. That's neat. I like him. Oh yeah,
Well, we'll see how it turns out. I guess, yeah,
yeah, that's exactly right. We will just kind of have to wait and
see Game Award nominees to get announced. I've talked about this quite a few
times. I don't know if there's anything that set out for you, Shawn,
any kind of egregious emissions. Well too, I guess technically one category
that really starts me is the best RPG one is one where I actually like
turned my head because I don't care about these nominations or anything necessarily. It's
like whatever, it'll be a good show, like the awards will be whatever.
They're an afterthought like they always are, so I don't read too much
into it, like like Jeff has talked about, you know, to death,
like the Dice Awards are where a lot of the industry really goes for
their awards. We've had Golden Joysticks already. There's our places to go for
that. Eliza p felt weird for best RPG, it is you know,
it's in that soulsy veins, so I guess it's action RPG. Sure.
But the reason that I started took an issue with some of that is Octopath
two isn't in there, and everyone who's been talking about Octopad two is like,
yeah, it's the greatest thing since slic spread. I'm like, huh,
that's weird. The thing that actually took an issue with this is the
actual snub. I feel like a lot of people aren't talking about this because
everyone called it. They knew this would happen back in January when they're talking
about this game, and here it is nowhere to be found. You though
people were talking about at the beginning of the year. Chained Echoes is eligible
for this because it came on in decemb of last year, not up for
Best RPG, and I would argue even more egregiously not up for Best Debut
Indie. Is that that one guy who then worked with some contractors to play
out as far as I tell, that's his first game And that is an
actual snub right there, And that is not on the people like submitting that
sound like this process like because it came out that point. It's you know,
I know, Jeff says, hey, games that come out after,
you know, the sort of when the awards are those December games, they're
just eligible next year. Nobody is thinking like that. It's just never going
to practically work that way, and it's kind of this weird thing, like,
well, what do we do about it? I mean, the best
thing to do? And I guess I don't know why this can't just be
like a July or January seventh show every year. I'm not sure why that
doesn't seem to be an option. For some reason, Jeff really likes this
early December slat. I guess I'd be curious to hear why that is.
But yeah, you know, we've heard that's advertising related, Like we're doing
it early December going into the holiday season or whatever, and maybe that seems
to Yeah, a big part of that makes sense, but it's you know,
hey, that is cynical, right, and it is a shame.
It really does. Just disqualified December games. Like, you know, I
don't know how good that the Avatar game is going to be that comes down
December seventh, but like, if it is good, there's no way it's
going to win any game awards, Like on the December seventh, twenty twenty
four show, people are going to be thinking about that Avatar game. Still
no chance, of course. Not so Yeah, I think I think that's
fair. That's a pretty that's a shame. I heard good things about Chenneko.
Somebody gifted that game to me. Actually really so I do. I
do want to check it out because I know people do like it quite a
lot. Okay. To Take To Boss has said that games should be priced
according to how much time you get from them. This is coined to Marcus
a person a game reactor, entertainment should cost a lot of money. Going
to Take To CEO straws Zonic, who during a meeting with Vestors, shared
his views on the industry and where it might be hanging. The near future.
He mentioned how a lot of it is about the value the customer feels
they are getting out of a product, and then the future players should be
charged by the hour. I kept thinking about Devis the whole time I was
hearing this with like circuit cities weird, like DVD adjacent competitor where you bought
the you bought the initial disc for a very cheap price, and you watch
the movie one time, and then if you wanted to watch it again,
you like had to pay again. Something out so weird, right, So
don't I don't know what the hell straws Zonic is talking about. I think
he's I don't think he's actually I don't think there's any actions that could be
taken from this nonsense. But it's crazy talk like if I buy a like
a crock pot, no one's ever like, well, you know, they
keep using the crock pots, so we should probably by the hour on the
crock putt. No, of course, not like what the that's I'm sad
about. Yeah, it's absolutely no, But yeah, it's absolute insanity.
What he's saying makes zero sense. Just because you make some live service games
that can't be played for five hundred hours, which a lot of us don't
even want to do anymore, and that's just not doing great. It's just
one of these things I roll my eyes at from a very stupid thing that
a stupid CEO says, and it bothers me in that sense. But I
don't think we're going to have any kind of bad thing happen from this,
how about you? No, Yeah, definitely, And either way you look
at like the topic at hand here, whether it be like you know,
charging people in the long run or charging them more upfront for a longer game
anything like that, Like length shouldn't be tied to price in any way,
shape or form. Like I would say, smaller projects, sure, you
know, price those accordingly which studios had before. You know, smaller projects
get price for you know, smaller amas our piece. Absolutely, But if
you're talking, yeah, anything like putting a yeah per our dollar value on
it, No, that's just dumb. Like some of us do that when
we're trying to like justify the cost of a game in our heads and whether
or not we're gonna buy and sale and or anything like that. But that's
not how these companies should be looking at man. They should just be looking
at markets at seventy bucks is at seventy bucks. We're gonna focus our efforts
in this way. We're gonna have the game, uh not balloonag control,
Like let's keep it control. That's what they need to be thinking about here.
And does yeah, anything like tying those two together now, Like we
said, it's insandy, So yeah, it's nine worth really entertaining. Granted,
I wouldn't be shocked if Grand Theft Thotal six is our first eighty dollars
video game shot. Anybody then get away with the word of the hell they
want right, get away with it? They absolutely could. Embracer says that
Peggy three underperformed following launch issues from Tom Ivan over a video game chronicles.
Major server issues, which developed for Starbreys, blamed on problems with external matchmaking
software marked the co op games late September release, which fans were also left
frustrated by and extended wait for the tailsource update, which was finally released this
month. During a Bracer's second quarter earnings QNA on Thursday, CEO Lars Winga
four said Payday three had come in a bit weaker than expected. That's gotta
be a bit rough. Uh. Pay Day two was a pretty big money
maker. And look at em Bracer having a lot of issues right now.
They've basically have also said, hey, we fired like nine hundred people and
we're gonna probably fire more. I don't even know if they said probably.
I think they just said we are going to fire more. Things are going
rough there and pay Day three is probably one thing that maybe you would have
thought would be guaranteed money. And yet yeah, that that rough launch experience
probably soured a lot of people. And now you have to do the thing
where you have to get people to come and try your game again, and
that that could be difficult. Yeah, I mean, Embracers just on fire
right now in like every sense of the term. Right, Like, I
don't know what the hell's going on there, man. I'm well, I
know what's going on is that they spent way too much money. Well,
wait, too many things. I forget sometimes that they own Lord of the
Rings. Yeah, I know, yeah, I should rephrase that. I
know what's going on. I'm just like, what were they thinking because all
of us this entire time, Yeah, they were waiting for that. That's
all the Arabian money that never came. Yes, that's right, I forgot
about that. That's when this that's when they really started panicking, when they
thought they were getting a Saudi Arabia investment and then they didn't. So so
yeah, this that infinite growth wasn't so infinite in the long run. They
had to come back down to earth and yeah, unfortunately people are paying the
price in that and that's just always upsetting. Do you think Pana three can
bounce back? Hell no, No, I don't know. Payday two had
long legs, so I'll I don't see why, like in the long run
they couldn't turn it around into something else. I don't know where it would
end up if anything happens with like the rights or anything like that in the
long run. That's sort of what I'm thinking about this point. But I'm
sure, I'm sure the whoever is managing it in the long run will just
think of that like a PAIDA two and try to put it to that status
at least eventually. Right, Yeah, I think that's right. But enough
about that. Let's talk about a more exciting topic, expected Deep Cleavage and
Final Fantasy seven rebirth from pent leonns That game reactor h basically are basically esrbs.
It's done. You know some rating stuff or from phanty seven or Rebirth,
which is coming out next year, and you know, the rating notes
that Rebirth is an action role playing game which players followed the story of a
mercenary cloud strife on a quest to save the plane from evil blah blah blah.
But then, like you know, like ESPs to notes some of the
things that might be for order audiences, and one of them is a deep
cleavage, also suggestive dialogue and alcohol content, so the scenes including smoking and
hookah pipes. Yes, uh, this deep cleavage has to be related to
It's one Scarlet, Well, there's that island resort place right or oh,
you mean like Costa del Sol or yeah, I think Coast of Soul is
going to be a culprit here. I think there's I mean, I guess
like's going on's gonna be in I feel like that's just talking about Scarlet at
this point. Well Scarlet, she's more of a prominent character in this one.
Yeah, I guess her cleavage was pretty deep, wasn't it. You
can go deeper, to Mike, we must go deeper. All right,
let's see anything else saw. After the success of the site, the Hedgehog
movie, Sega wants to bring more of its IP to other platforms. This
is from Mago Liso Simolane at Destructure. I probably said that wrong. I
am sorry. Uh. An interview with CNBC SEGA chief operating officer Shuji you
assume me revealed that the platforms there considering include movies even Roadblocks Roadbox. That's
kind of fining me. They're already done. It's weird that they're saying this
because they basically have already kind of done this, Like with Sonic, they've
done it a ton, including with Problocks. They may have two other franchise
they can really get away with this, like a Dragon and Persona. Even
like Persona has had a good amount across media stuff already granted it things like
you know, like the TV show There is an anime and maybe that didn't
get a ton of Western exposure, Like it didn't have some big Netflix deal.
You basically had to buy a DVD of it on Amazon. Oh.
Five five got dcing exposure because it was on Fundamation and so you know,
it was on a streaming service. So I got some places. Yeah,
not as much as if it were on Netflix, like you said, right,
and three was like a series of anime movies, because I think it
was for anime. Yeah three was so far back in the day that I
believe there's not even English dub for it. And then Yeah four was very
much this DVDs, and I think later maybe they could definitely do something more
ambitious with persona. I suppose maybe they can kind of plan that as they're
working on whatever that next person is going to I was happy, Sorry,
I was happy listening, but I caught the end of the conversation. Those
animals are in crunchy world, like they came. They are like this simultast
does. Yeah, back in the day when they came out, except for
the movie they came. They came later the movie. Yeah, Jeff's asking
a chat. We told peop about the last show because tickets are sold out.
Now, Jeff, I was celebrating how tickets are sold out, how
it is great, and Christians like, actually, you shouldn't celebrate because cares
and everything's bad and I'm a nihilist something like that. Oh so, I
mean, you know, there's a lot of other sega IP, but Ciga
hasn't done a lot with most of that IP in a while, Like,
yeah, I love Echo the dolphin. I love Panther Dragoon and yeah,
they like made a Pater Dragoon remake a bit ago. I would care if
there was a Pander Dragoon like anime show on Netflix. I don't know if
a lot of other people would care. Uh, that would be sweet,
It would be sweet. I don't know people are going to suddenly show up
as easily as Hey, here's a Mari movie. Of course people are going
to show for that. Or hey here's a Zoda movie. Yeah, people
are gonna show up for that. So I both understand this trategy from Sega.
I think it's gonna be hard to make this work for anything that's not
sonic again, maybe Persona and like a dragon, but we'll see. I
think those are two. Yeah, because like people will go and just see
a movie called just Yakaza. Like if they just go that route, like
shouldn't do decently enough. I'd assume as all as it looks okay, So
if they play their cards or I think it would be interesting. What is
there any other like Sega ipe you think that this would really work with like
super monkey Ball. Maybe is like a cute little thing, nothing that's gonna
kid show or something maybe, Man, I think that's going to blow people's
minds really, uh, you know, like I think Jeff and Chances said
Schenobi. I would like that again. Cool. Love the old Shnoby games.
I love the old shoots of Range Games and Golden Necks, all these
legacy Sega franchises. I just don't know if people will care now. I
mean, they really are making that super jet set radio game and they're really
investing a lot in that, then maybe you can do something animated show or
something. Right, it should so we'll see. Alright, that's it for
all these main topics. Why don't we take a break, Shawn. Then
we'll look at these super chats. We're going to talk about the best Game
of two thousand and seven coming up here soon too. How's that little breaksound
that was good to me? All right? Beer back and we're back,
Sean. I will give you the honor of reading the super chats, sir.
Awesome sounds good, I got. I'm pulled up here. First off
from t Bucket twenty three? Have you too had the good burger meal from
Arby's? I didn't know this existed, Mike, I did. It's very
funny that good Burger parted with Arby's, which has been doing limited time burgers
recently. I have not gotten this meal yet. I mean, look,
I love Arby's a little too much as the problem. So when I go
to Arby's, I want to get a roastby San, which I don't necessarily
want to get a burger. I'm still very amused that they are doing this
there. How if I'm gonna watch this movie? Like I liked Good Burger
one a good bit as a kid. But you know, wait, is
there like a reboot movie? Yeah, Good Burger Two's coming out? Like,
oh, I don't know that, Okay, I just like don't watch
film and TV more. I mean, you know, I don't either,
But I knew about a Good Burger thing because as very much a sequel tool
of Childhood movie. So oh my, sure sure talking about that kind of
thing. No, we'll see next. From Ninten Derek, does it seem
like Black Friday sales on individual games and movies hasn't been as good this year
and last year as they were in twenty twenty one or before? You know,
I don't follow Black Friday sales very much in myself. I'm not a
big Black Friday kind of person. If anything, I'll use Black Friday and
Cyber Monday for like gift buying, which isn't usually a lot of video games.
Sometimes it is. I don't know if you've noticed anything though, Sean,
Yeah, it's just it's been a slow decline in general. There used
to be a time where you know, a game would come out a month
or two before Black Friday and ever I would be like, just wacas can
be thirty dollars or something, and you don't get that anymore. Really,
I think we'll see some decent stuff this year. I don't know if people
have already seen what there is. I'm curious to look at the list because
I haven't looked anything yet. But yeah, we'll see they Yeah, they're
onto something there, so they just haven't bas goos, they haven't serious.
Yeah. Next up we got el Grugg Preemptive, Mario Galaxy, and Halo
three for the topic today. Also need Turbo Sean to Minati in a game
that Jeff wouldn't want on the two thousand and seven games. Okay, well
what would what would Jeff not want? I mean, look, there's a
Pokemon game that came out. I'm sure you're gonna make some much stronger case
for it than either of us would have. So you'll have that I peaked
at at oh seven is actually a pretty good year. It's a good year.
It's a good year. Yeah, Jeff, you should write in real
quick and let us know what which ones you like. Yeah, I'll depote
the list once we get to the actual topic. This would be interesting here
from al America. Got my tickets. Can't wait to see you all.
Hey there you go, Yes, thank you thereyone who did get tickets.
Really excited to see everybody on December ninth at LA Again, those tickets have
already sold out, so sorry if you weren't able to jump on those.
We'll be Hopefully we'll doing more things like this though. I'm really excited about
this. It's going to be a fun time. Yeah, definitely, let's
see breaking the backlog is a member for fourteen months. So thank you there,
and they say looking good, Jeffrey, I'm gonna assume I'm the one
who says thank you, thank you very much. Then, you know,
trimming down a little bit, shaved the beard. Yeah, you probably look
more like Jeff than you look like me, So that makes sense. A
little bit, I guess. Yeah, let's see from band or sn got
my GB live tickets, see you all at the show, and rats,
I'm selling out faster than the special edition steam Deck. Yeah eat shit valve
my quick update on that. I don't know if you were watching the show
earlier today, I was trying so desperately to get one of these things.
I got the li Dude, I got it. Hey, that's great.
But didn't you like regret getting the normal steam Deck twice already? No?
No, this most recent time was because I guess I'm talk about now because
I found out about the steam Deck Olt. I'm like, shit, I
just bought this thing, So that's why the second time around. But yeah,
now the steam Deck olet actually fixes most of my problems with the steam
Deck, so now I'm gonna be happy with it. Yeah. Yeah,
it looks really cool. It's hard for me to justify doing that because I'm
not using my normal seam Deck nearly enough, because I still just keep playing
games on my switch. We'll see how I feel when just like the next
steam Deck comes out. Sure, sure, definitely. I'm from Durrashi.
I'm not watching tonight because I'm saying this show for my day off tomorrow,
but that doesn't mean I can't show my support. Well, hey, greetings
from the past future Darashi. There you go. Let's see from Willow Davis.
So excited. Jeff Grubbs said there'll be a new Salty game announced at
the Game Awards for the Super Switch you Advanced sixty four and Knuckles with Mike
Manatti. Yeah he promised these things. Yeah. I tried to stop him,
but he just kept doing it. He said he was going to shave
it everything if it doesn't happen. So I really hope it works out for
him. Okay, Well, shouts to Jeffrey Boosting as the only fans cool
from the Andrew thirteen. As long as we get more like a Dragon Street
Fights, I assume that's in reference to the Sega stuff we were talking about.
That's in reference to a w Ok. Yeah, like a Dragon Street
Fight sponsored match. Kind of Oh interesting. Well, Kendy Omega, like
Veiga's a lot. He likes like a Dragon a lot. He was somehow
a part of one of the games not too long ago, but recently he's
part of the one who is part of the one that just came off I'm
not mistaken. Yeah, no, no, no, like no, no,
no, he was one of the cards or the Cardian And yeah,
I don't know if he's Guiding, but yeah, they they've been doing Salas
crossovers. I still kind of want to play. Is Guiding the one with
Daytona two in it? I thought multiple ones had Daytona two and the other
games were only in one of them. But Daytona two is definitely showing up
for the first time, like ever in a newer like a drag game.
I assume it's in Guid. Yeah, I thought I've always booked Guided and
eight, but I could be mistaken on that. Bye, Yeah, I'm
almost positive is at least in Guiden. Isn't Guided? Think you wouldn't that?
Okay? Of course? I think I saw John Linneman saying it was
an amazing there. Oh they always are. That was the best way to
play Virtual Fire five for a long time. With the games. They gotta
give me a collection of these two and M three or Cigare Arcade games.
God right, they're just saying on them right there. I'm from lurking with
mcgirkin. Hate to be the agent Smith in the room and talk about inevitability.
But what year do you guys think mobile game will win overall Game of
the Year. I don't think it's crazy if it's something like that's just on
mobile addition to everything else. Yeah, like a Fortnite or something. Yeah
exactly, is it rested you before gonna be on mobile soon? Yeah?
There you go. Yeah, that's something like that. I don't think like
a gate like a game made for mobile, like you know, like Birds
three. Uh An. Yeah. The closest anything will have come probably would
have been like Pokemon Go in terms of, like, you know, a
game made for a mobile, and even then that's not gonna It's hard,
but I mean it's it's not like it's a matter of time. It could
happen whenever. I guess exactly. Uh from Connell Wood fidgety recommendation Infinity Cube,
so I assume that's one of those that has multiple thing design. I
have to look at the Infinity Cube. I need to get something. Yeah,
I'm more elaborate. I'm just going to bend a of these Magic the
Gathering cards. Uh Okay. Mikey O'Leary is clearly doing a bit that I
do not understand, but he says uh us talking about Jeff he was the
best guy around the news. What about the stolen TVs? Us? What
stolen TVs? That's that's a that's a tiktog. That's a pretty good TikTok.
Yeh damn it, fellows social media manager mikey O'Leary's trying to give me
a social media thing, and I'm proving how bad I am at my job.
I didn't know about it, but I'm a boomerder. Look at TikTok
so I'm in the clear. What about thee what? No? What about
the people he murdered? What murder? I think at least I have a
new format for one now cool. Yeah, it's pretty fucked up that Jeff
Grubb just steals TVs all the time, right, it's constantly. Yes,
it's album like I saw back and gives money to the people who stole the
TV. I saw him not listen to this voicemail down trunk. I need
to go back and listen because I was too busy. I have no idea
what the story is. I just saw a dance photoshop of film leaving the
house with a TV and then last one here for now from our boys shiggy
to hear A Miyamoto says, this is Meamoto, whoa did Jeff shave?
Looking good? Please wish me a happy birthday. I turned seventy one today.
Me and Cool Chris are going to Chili's. Happy Birthday. Yeah.
Oh give me that baby back, baby back, baby back baby Yeah.
All right, get a mug of beer or something. Yeah, that's fun,
exciting. That is all the super chests we have for right now.
Mikey, Hey, thank you so much for sending those super chests. Everybody.
You can still send a super chat. We will read it before the
end of the show, I promise. Oh, Chicken's getting drunk on Margarita's
Fantastic news, mister, that's what I like to see. How you shaking?
I kind of want to do that tomorrow because I'm dancing to the Mall
of America and there is a Margaritaville. Oh yeah, you're your field trip
to ma All America, as he called. Yes, yes exactly, he's
my chaperone. You have anything in particular you want to do when you're out
there, Uh, go to the Margaritaville. I don't know. Yeah,
there's a Nickelodeon like theme Park, but they have like big Boy rock coasters
in there that I probably don't want to actually do, so probably not going
to pay whatever it is to go in there. There opening a Toys r
Us there the day we're there, so baby, I peak at that.
I don't know if there's gonna be some kind of line or something. I
don't know. It's kind of like the idea of walking around a mall,
a big mall i've never been to. Maybe Christmas stuff will be up,
that'd be fun. Maybe Dana and I can get a picture of Santa Claus.
I want to see a picture of you and Dan saying on Santa's lap
at the same time, so badly. There you go. All right,
let's take another break, we'll come back. We'll do this game of the
Year two thousand and seven. Cope, and we are back. It's time
to talk about the year two thousand and seven, a pretty big year for
video games. Mike Manati, Yes, well, yes, what were you
doing two thousand and seven? I was in college in two thousand and seven.
I was going to YSU, which was a local state college, so
I was still living with my family. Yeah, that's what I was up
to. Okay, I was in seventh grade, so you know, big
time in my life. I just wanted to make you feel old, as
I tend to do on these shows. Honestly, Like in my mind,
I thought you were about to tell me that you were like three, So
that's not bad to take it. Jeff's listening somewhere, probably into dust,
and I'm just, yes, is all right, I'm going to get it
started here right away. Best reviewed game of year when there's a lot of
them, but Super Mario Galaxy one came out, damn two thousand and seven.
Gosh, I always liked Mario, of course. I think Super Mario
Galaxy was when I was like, gosh, three D, like this is
just the best. Three D Mario is so good. I just absolutely loved
the kind of core gimmick with the little planet TOIDs in the way gravity really
mattered, just a really fun I like how they kind of made it a
bit more or I don't know if elegant the word, but there's there's a
bit more gravitas to this all of a sudden, there definitely is. Yeah,
that really sweeping orchestral soundtrack is incredible, right, Like we all know
Gusty Garden Galaxy. It's just one of the best video game songs of all
time. This Mario just feels so good to control in this game. The
level design is immaculate, just a perfect video game. I'm like a little
cooler on Galaxy than a lot of people are, but I do still really
like it. The thing that does it for me is I've never liked WE
you know, wiggle waggle stuff, So that does annoying me a little bit
because it is in their decent amount. It's not like overbearing, but spin
move and it's like, yeah, this could just be a button, but
which it is in three D all stars like cres do and then but you
do also do it to do pointer stuff, which I'm usually okay with,
Like you know, I love the Metric Prime trilogy on WE but yeah,
it's it's a little more than I like. But the platforming it's a fantastic
in Galaxy, and like you said, the presentation, the orchestra has sound.
It is a fantastic platform You're absolutely ran in the money with that one.
Yeah, how about you, what do you want to throw up there?
Okay, so I don't know if I had to convince you of this,
but at least be able to tell you say that it is one of
the most influential games of all time Call of Duty for Modern Warfare Mike,
Yeah, you don't have to convince me. Yeah, I get it.
Like I also really liked Modern Warfare the first one. It's you have to
kind of forget about, like what Call of Duty is now, because at
that time this was such a huge deal. It was clear that this was
the next milestone first person shooter. Yeah, this was the game that sort
of invented modern online shooters. Like Hal was doing his thing and everything,
but yeah, exactly, the gun progression and everything like that, having your
your single player campaign and your multiplayer online sweet working away did like it was
basically the and Halo, And this is what a lot of games ended up
copying, almost one to one. Like even if you didn't love it,
it is so influential. But I will say that I did end up loving
this game, you know, like starting to going too high school and everything,
playing every night with my friends and everything like that. Uh, is
still a fantastic game. When a Monern Warfare Remastered came out a few years
back, me and my friends were right back into it. We were like
the memories came flowing back. We were playing all night long for months.
It's a fantastic game, and it's still like it's still like the purest form
of this experience in a way like MW two certainly has that too, And
they started to get off the rails in like the Black Ops two era and
now it's we were running around with NICKI minaj your earlier day over giants a
lot now, it's a lot now, but back then it was just a
damn good first person shooter. Yeah, it's a good campaign, Like I
remember things about this campaign, which is something I cannot say about many other
Call of Duties and just an absolute ye, a ton of fun in the
multiplayer of course. Call of Duty for modern warfare a big deal, A
big big deal. I want to deny that. Ah, do you have
a list or anything pulled up that you want to start pulling from. I
talked quite a few more ideas here, sure. Because BioShock, the first
BioShock came out in two thousand and seven. I loved BioShock. I remember
the demo for this game was mind blowing, Like it was one of those
things where I think a lot of people had that experience where you didn't realize
the demo started. One of the all time best intros in a video game,
the whole going down to the city. But like, just the atmosphere
in this game was so incredible, it looked so amazing, it felt really
unique at the time. Gosh, it's just a very very memorable game and
a really fun game, definitely, And I really liked the first BioShock.
I didn't play it at launch. I ended up playing it like a few
years later, not too much layer like twenty eleven or something like that,
when I started geting more and two PC gaming, and that was when steam
sales started to really become a thing. So I picked, you know,
a bundle with two for like four dollars or whatever, and yeah, had
a fantastic time. Whether it's still you know, the twist like it's good.
I won't say it, but you know, like, yeah, what'd
you kindly? You know, it's a it's a really good twist like that,
And just the atmosphere is very good. This is almost like it's almost
a Metroid game, right, Mike. A little bit of that, A
little bit a bit of that, a bit of like immersive sim not like
a super Super Pure versus sim maybe like that in there in the RPG elements,
it all really went like the stuff like that maybe like isn't great.
It's stuff you don't necessarily notice, like the whole you have, like the
oh, you have to make the moral choice, right, and when you
really look at that, it's like, well, the game's trying to make
it like, oh, are you going to do the evil thing because the
rewards are better, and the game kind of whimps out and actually makes it
so the rewards you get for doing the good thing are actually just this is
good really because you know, the game kind of whip sound is afraid of
making this sound on something I know people don't love, like the last boss
fight. I get that a little bit. It doesn't drive me that crazy.
I don't mind a whole time there, So same overall. I love
BioShock. How about you anything else you want to throw on there right now?
Let me see, I mean we would be remiss not to mention Halo
three, right like Halo three. Yeah, yeah, this is still in
some ways kind of feels like the last important Halo games. Really, this
was still sort of at the time, maybe reach sure Halo three definitely felt
like we were at the absolute tippy top of important, because yeah, I
loved ODSD in Reach, but important. It's like Halo three was an event.
Definitely, it was. It was a it was a big d.
I uh not really a giant Halo guy. Oh this is great news.
Jeff Grubbin chetzes he doesn't care about BioShock. You never finish it. Well,
I'm really glad he's not involved in this show. Well guess what,
Jeff, you ain't here. You ain't here, You ain't here, bitch,
shame on you. Yeah, get better taste, yeah, jackass,
Yeah yeah, go play a metal Gear solid game that isn't won and then
go play BioShock God. So yeah, Halo three of absolutely deserves consideration if
it doesn't make this list and people get bad. But it's just I'm not
the biggest Halo guy really in the honorable mentions is area for now. I
do think Halo three had a little bit of its lunch eating buy Modern Warfare
to be honest. Yeah, like I said, you were pretty much one
or the other back in the day, and a lot of people wentn't called
duty even I. So it's like, what do we what do we do
about all this Orange Box stuff. It'd be kind of easier, maybe cheating,
but maybe not to just say the Orange Box and then you get Portal
Anti Fortress two and episode two all on one thing. Make the rules,
we do. Make the rules all right here, Mike, I'll tell you
right now, I'd be okay playing Orange Box out there because I don't see
it sticking to top four in this year. Or if it was the Orange
Box, it would be like five is where I would like, Oh wow,
it really so you don't care that Portal one alone. Portal one alone
would it's a good puzzle game. Oh you're insane. I've been saying that
is good. Good. Yeah, I think Portal is a very good game.
I've never been in love with Portal the way a lot of our people
have. I would say, like, you know, I would almost give
the edge like Team Fortress two in that and everything. I was such a
Team Fortress Classic guy, and like I like, I like Sea Fortress too.
I have those strong feelings about to be honest, like I played a
lot of it back then. Fort's Classic be so much more to me than
Team Fortress too. I like to overwatch more than I have related Team Fortress
two, and I am trying to look at these games, you know,
as they are, but it's almost hard to ignore. Like Portal Too is
kind of the one people talk about now, and I know I try not
to do that, but like in the same vein of you like not seeing
Team Fortress too the same way because of classic, I'm sorry with that.
Episode two was also very good. That was a very good. Half Life
campaign was a lot better than episode one. It was as good, maybe
even better than anything in just base Half Life two. A lot of fun
stuff in that. So let's just say the Orange box. But they like
their day on Twitter, you were like, I'm scared that the people who
say half like, no, no, tell me you don't like Half Life
two. I can't just actually don't. Oh yeah, don't, hang on,
hang on, hang on. It's like I don't think it's ten on
ten. I think it's out there, but based like ten on ten.
That's why I'm actually it's just like one of the top five games. Well
oh my god, Okay, well I just don't see it. Said Afflet
two is pretty boring. It's a boring Oh no, I would never I
would never say that. I would never say that. Why you say some
other video game? Now? Actually, Mike, how we feel about Guitar
Hero three Legends of Rock. I don't feel very much bad already figured like,
yeah, guitar he's fine. I don't need to give it any kind
of like award at this point. It's okay. I think it's worth noting
because for those of us who were super into it, it's arguably the best
Guitar Hero game before I started gang My Jam Shoa Jan Ochoa. Don't like
half like two come off, it's a bit boring my Lloyd Jan Jan see
Jan can piss you off. So I come in looking good saying that is
it's good. Damn. Don't play more of the Bouncer, which is like
actually one of the most borings I ever put and I played it recently.
No wonder you like the quiet. It was just the Bouncer made like ten
years later or whatever. What does Jeff Grubb's game say right there? You
do the show pi or so thing. I can't even handle it, you
fucking hassles, Jeff Grubb. I'm not in love with we too. I
have to it didn't give me like a shovel and tell me to dig a
hole and I was able to make my own fun. Could you believe the
story mode at one point told me I had to do a thing, and
when I tried do something else, it like didn't like that? Jeff,
Why did you leave me here with this? Man? What have you done?
It's very good and I think we should move on to a different game
now, Yes, my turn, my turn. You you already said something,
you know it? Go for go for Yeah, he got on,
you got I was waiting. I got stuff. I got stuff about the
first mass Effect came out to do a seven? Oh the list I have
heard it shouldn't be first mass Effect to that as remember when that was an
Xbox exclusive by the way, very weird. Yeah, oh there is that
the bomb? Yeah yeah, I in a lot like look. Mass Effect
two is the is the best game in the trilogy, I admit, but
there's a lot about Mass Effect one that I do like and miss in its
sequels. I like that it is a bit more RPG, it has a
bit more of that Kotor DNA in it. The world building is very good.
I like the citadel a lot, just as this location really good team
members in this game. Mass Effect one was it got a lot of things
right and put that series on a really strong starting foot. Yeah. I
actually never played the Mass Effect games. I really want to, because you
know, Legendary Edition came out and everything. I started one when I did
have an Xbox One for a little bit there. I was like, Okay,
I get it, but maybe this isn't the greatest way of players.
Maybe they'll like do a remaster or some there so, because there are rough
edges on that original release. So I do want to fire up Legendary Edition
still because I was like, I can't I see what's here. But I
do think, like you know, it's not supposed to be as much of
a shooter as the Layer games would be, but I think the shooting does
feel a little clunky, and I feel like that was actually something Yeah that's
something that people said back in the day. Yeah, yeah, I think
it feels a lot better than that Legendary addition, h for sure, and
I like playing it there is very good, But I did even like this
original version of it. You want me to put it on the shortlist anywhere?
I think you should be in the shortlist, Okay, sure, I
think it should be they considered. Sure, definitely the hip kids say really
hip yep, yeah, do you have one? Because I have a couple
more. I think, yeah, okay, this is an interesting one for
us to talk about. I think Metroid Prime three. Yeah, how much
my Prime three? Man? I never actually quite beat Metroid Prime three.
Oh I I have several times, and yeah, okay, you need me
to be the expert. But then, what do you think, because it
sure seems to get talked about the least, right, Why is that?
It's because Metroid Prime one is so damn good. Yeah, it just overshadows
both of them. Yeah. Prime two is like in the similar vein,
but the type of puzzles that they want to do with, like light and
dark stuff, I think quite pan out as well. Still a very good
campaign. And then three is where some of the problems that Metroid started to
rear their head. A lot of talking and cut scenes. Yeah, it's
weird that they did that because yeah, see if even when Matre Prime one
was out, everybody liked how there wasn't very much talking. They thought it
was cool, and they kind of lost confidence in that. It felt like
Yeah, and then obviously we'll get into other m later down the road.
But I think that's where some of that stuff started. It is very good,
though. I think a lot of people come around, especially you know,
playing more updated versions like in Prime Trilogy and everything like that, or
even if Fire and Dolphin or whatever. I think people come around that it's
probably even better than two. But yeah, I don't know, Like I
honestly William put on the shortlist in this year would make the short list this
honorable mention for now. I think you got that one. Oh, I
thought I did, but actually The World Ends with You did not come out
in North America in to two thousand and eight. Oh interesting, now on
the butt the first uncharted Drick's Fortune did That's true? I know, I
thought, like most people gloss over this one and just look at two and
two is definitely better. I liked this series immediately. I thought from the
beginning it was really impressive. This game was doing things with like animation and
just kind of character reactions to things that just were really happening in games at
the time. It just it did do. It took that kind of third
person shooter format that was getting popular thanks to Resident Evil and then Years of
War and just kind of added a lot more flavor and fun to it.
I liked the whole kind of Indiana Jones vibe of the thing. Sure,
I think at the time, the mystical twist, the right the supernatural stuff
through people off, not like all the gains, enough of that that whatever.
With that, there was some six Access stuff thrown in there. Again,
it's basically bested by its sequel in almost every way, but I still
thought that the first one was really cool and really impressive, especially at that
time. I think it's solid. I actually I am a big tomb Raider
fan, Like I grew up playing all the two Mara games, even the
bad ones. So like when I did finally get a PS three a little
later and got the On Charge trilogy, I think is what the collection was
at the time. I fired up. I'm like, because I know how
at that point I knew how much people love two and three, and so
I fired up. I'm like, Okay, this is this is solid.
This is a good starting point. But yeah, like you said, even
like two overshadows it so much, and then three three is debatably better.
It's like it's like two and three are both fantastic games. It's sort of
like almost a reference. Yeah, threes three, it's just a little the
story is not the best. It's basically yeah, three, but still a
lot of fun. It gets kind of I think two and four are very
obviously the standouts in that franchise. I like one. I don't know if
it needs to be shortlisted, but yeah, for me, yeah, I
think it's like a Metro Prime situation where it's like, yeah, it's good,
it's worth mentioning here in the discussion, but yeah, it won't make
the list, so not even a shortless. Persona three came out in North
America in two thousand and seven. We said Church two game to talk about
here. Yeah, this Even at the time, this game got so much
buzz. It seemed like turn based RPGs were in this really rough spot.
Were super niche and then Persona three, which was like very much a JRPG
ass JRPG, kind of broke through and got a lot of attention. It
really managed to stand out somehow by kind of mixing those social elements in I
think the imagery of like the whole shooting of cells in the head to summon
monster, things like that's a great elevator pitch high school kids in the head
to summon demons. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I definitely didn't get
me back last year. And then this was like this was the one where
it's like we were still in the air of people caring about length of JRPGA
before it balloon out control, and now we're like, I actually go shorter
ones. So I can't remember if it was like a backup box thing or
some reviewers onthing, but people were like, this is sixty to seventy hours,
that's incredible, or so much stuff to do. It was really long
for the time. You know, this was the Boulderskate three of its time,
because again I think like just like Beare Sex was like the elevator pitch
for Borderskate three, thesing was here. Oh kay okay no seriously, then,
like this game did not shy away from like that genre while a lot
of other people were trying to like be more mainstream and kind of shining away
from like this is kind of nerdure. This was a niche ass yeah,
anime ass JRPG for sure, right now, this game would kind of get
better. It did have some weird quirks, like you couldn't directly control your
party memberyes or so It has a very weird history where the original release you
couldn't control your partner matage because it was like that was just the way they
were doing things. It was like, you know, it's immersive because they
move on their own, they have their own decisions that are doing. Then
they realized you can send them I remember that couldn't send them into like the
dungeon. And then I realized it's bad Christian. I think everyone realized it's
bad, and so they changed it later. But yeah, it has Fez
which is expanded, which have not great side story there. You have Portable,
which has some more content, some remove content. Rally is scaled back
because I was like a visual novel. I played it on the original release.
I beat it when Portable came out. Yeah, because it was easy
to play it on my Vida at that time, and you know, you
were able to control your party members at that point. This is a very
important game. I feel like, I feel it's worth consideration. We could
put it short list. Yeah, I don't know how far I'll make it.
I like more, I'll say that right now. I like Yeah,
I like both of the later modern personas better. Yeah, well, you
shut the hell up. All right, we'll start checking out some uh so,
just as the communisteners you wanted to bring up, but like, let
me get this straight. Assassin's Creed. Yeah, yeah, November thirteenth,
the first one, the first first cessss Creed is gonna play. I like
the first sets Creed more than most people, but it seems like everyone else
is like it wasn't very good at first. I kind of got into it
immediately. Of course two was better. I don't know if it's like a
top five. I just you know, it's funny that you you said Guitar
Hero three. You know what else came out do as the seven though?
Rock band? Rock Band. That's what I was playing with friends. Yeah,
I was gonna bring that up as soon as I saw it on the
list. Yeah, rock Band changed everything because, like guitar Guitar Hero moved
into the full band territory after this one with full with World Tour, and
so they had to because like rock Band took over in the same way that
Guitar Hero took over with one and two on the PS two and absolutely blew
up. This was the next thing, Like you can get a group of
your friends player you're not just doing like heads to Ahead and everything, and
people who didn't weren't good at the whole guitar plastic guitar thing could play the
drums or especially they could sing. You just put someone on vocals and it
became an instant hit at parties. And I think rock band like personally,
and this could go far for me. So I definitely want someone I consider
a rock band that actually list cool. Uh see, do you want me
to read uh the I'll read them, yeah, oh sure, I and
I can't pull them up. I might have to resize it a little,
but oh, I definitely have to resize it at all. They know.
And you want me to start saying things here if you want you start saying
that, mean start saying I'm sure well number first off bench. A C
says, do I really need to explain? And it is super Mario Galaxy
love that box start I had like a I had like an like a mobile
from a game stop. I forget how I had it. It was a
cardboard cutout, but it was a bit three dimensional and it could spin for
some reason. From Rio Galaxy. I had that in my heart for a
long time. Cyber Rez says, Halo three basketball says, I don't know
if it's game of the year, but I'd say Canaan, which Dead Men
had some real impact on the games industry, although probably not the impact of
developers intended. It'd be weird to play that game now, right, I
exactly. I don't think you could play it on Giant Bomb. I think
there'd be too much baggage there. It's like a part of him, he
the he was the other king, the Lynch, that was the one.
Well, I'm staying out, so I'm washing my hands so I ain't touched
it, all right, Uh, super bop Yo RPG says god be mass
Effect one true space RPG when bio ware couldn't miss space politics, the good
bad decisions with meaningful consequences, the planet exploration. And I'm tired of trying
to pretend that Maco controlled poorly. The Maco ruled, damn it. I'd
never had a problem with them, I never had a big problem. I
don't know if I loved it. I don't think it's terrible, but it's
not. It's not great, mister Bower said. Another really strong year for
video games, Best Game BioShock honorable mention to Phoenix Right Ace Attorney trials and
oh sure, sure, is that the third one? I always kind of
get mixed up. I think that's the third one, right, that's then
for Justice for All. I always kind of struggle remembering, so I think
this would be number two? Wasn't it? Would it be number two?
I keep That's why I was by times like baying for somebody in chat to
help me. Uh, if it's number two, I like that one,
but I like one and three more than I like the second one, to
be honest, trials is three Justice for All? Okay, So that's what
I thought. That's what I thought. That is a very good one.
To middle Crossing says, I replayed much of your time three Corruption for the
first time in ages last month for a podcast, and I got us today
this thing, this might be the single most criminally underrated title in the whole
series. Is the weakest suprime Josey Sure, that's like comparing an Audi to
a Ferrari and a Lambo. So a wonderful release and one of the best
plays you can play on the Wii. But unfortunately you cannot put out my
number one because it all came out the same year as the best WE title.
And my second favorite game of all time, super Mario Galaxy. True
masterpiece in every sense of the word. Yeah, you guys, anytime you
say super Mario sometimes like Super Mario Galaxy. H pe Gimmer says, one
of my most distinct memories. In the first month I played online Halo three
for my two brothers as we sat around TV with a crappy tennis screen.
But wait, percent three came out two thousan seven. It was my favorite
game of all time for years and taught me that's okay for a game you
love to be flawed, like the lack of control for party members and having
a tactics mean used weird, but that was intentional. You're supposed to be
a leader of real characters, not some unipotent god controlling them. I would
rather game have them perfections and flaws than go for a widespread appeal but be
too afraid to do something original and you like in unique like P three.
Even the Daily license was specifically tied to into three, with it its overarching
theme of time and the message that we don't have enough fit to do everything
in life. Four or five have different themes and shouldn't should have reflected it
in gameplay. Okay, it says Mass Effects was the game I obsessed over
for a long time. It was part of the reason I got through sixteenth
the first place. Even though I fell off the franchise out the three disappointed,
this was still such a great evolution of bio where RPG. Yeah,
Biowa was very much in a can't miss phase for a while there. They're
doing really well. Definitely, Jackie GeSe is neat. Obvious answer is Mark
Galaxy, but you handsome chaps already know that. So I'm going to take
this one opportunity to say how much I love the legend of Zouto. Phantom
Maillod Glass maybe the punching bag of the series for a lot of people,
but it will always hold a special place in my heart. Yeah, I
think we're both. I just this is Phantom out Glass and Spiritual is like
a bit black sheepy for me when it comes to the Zose, which is
a shame because I love one. Wicker's my favorite zona. Again. Yeah,
prior to breatha while saying, but Phantom marrow Glass, I think is
all right. Spirit Tracks is where they lost me. I think I think
this one's okay. It's just man using the stylist and everything like. It
works well enough, but it still just doesn't you'll quite right it Everything about
this felt a little gimmicky, even if off, Yeah, something felt off,
even if the you know, cores all this stuff is solid casual but
on holiday system just going to continue this nautical theme we got going, says
parts of the care being at world's end. Okay, yeah, Revan says,
I can't pick a best, but I got an easily worst of games
for Windows Live launched on May eighth. Oh wow, that's incredible, that
whole thing. Yeah, Mike, you do you are you able to explain
that for the younger of yours? And now I can't. I barely understood
it when it happened. It's just like they had like a weird proprietary like
platform for PC. Yeah, they were basically trying. They're basically trying to
like do their do Steam because Steam is starting to become a thing. They're
like, wait, we own Windows, let's just roll gaming into Windows and
everything like that. But the problem is end up just being there layer d
r M, and a game that has this d r M doesn't funk anymore.
That everyone had to like convert codes that they will work on Steam and
everything. It was a whole mess. It's hilarious that there's still kind of
figuring things out with gaming on Windows at the Xbox happened or anything like that.
It's yeah, now you know why people disparage it so much. Your
game life is boring, it' sir, Mario Galaxy, cool guy answer.
Uh. And then two, the Japan only sequel to the game that Elite
Beat Agents is based on as many proovens of that game, and you could
even download the Agents as skins, something I do nudy to like get those
two games. I don't think they're no hit for me, quite like leapit
Ages because I like the uh you know, the Western music in there.
But I'm sure I still enjoyed. Oh this su dude. I was listening
to the soundtrack of Elite Beat Agents like someone put together like a Spotify playlist
of just like all the songs, but they were the actual songs. I'm
like, man, this soundtrack slaps It's good. Yeah, amazing stuff.
Freshly streamed game says, well, you guys made a mistake. Put in
Halfway two above Halo two A two thousand and fourst and now's your chance to
make it right is the best game of two thousand and seven. I didn't
say I'm saying, oh this one. I just yeah. I mean,
man, Halo three came out and I played a bit of it. I
just did it. Didn't really care very much. I gotta be honest.
I think I played the campaign for like an hour. I like it,
but it's not my favorite Halo game in terms of imporance. Like we did
talk even veryo right now, Like, yeah, it's on the shortlist because
of importance, but yeah, I don't know. I probably would enjoy it
more now, especially if I played it on PC and I didn't have to
use it it is gone master Chief collection. Yeah, yeah, so I'm
sorry, Like, I know it's weird. I don't know. I don't
know why, especially at this point when Halo's kind of at its height.
I just didn't really care about but I did it. Sure. The boulder
gateboll five says on Charter fans, this is our time. This year marks
the star of one of the greatest gaming franchise of all time. Me and
millions of people loves franchise, with every fiber being that being said, My
choice goes to Super Mike Galxy. Yes even on Wolf knows, even he
knows, like it's it's, it's all right, It's all right. Jamie
H one two two four says if the Orange Box is eligible, then I
nominate Castlevania the Dracula X Chronicles on PSP, but because it contains simply a
Night as an unlockable extra it did and also had the original version of Rondo
of Blood on there. The remake of Rondo Blood that was like the main
package was okay, but the original still is incredible. Yeah, Alex says,
Mario Galaxy and Phantom alur Glass are pretty cool. Well, you're half
right. Alex Klink says, I'm shocked that Portal hasn't been brought up yet,
but speaks to how brutal this year is. Also shout out to BioShock
and Mass Effect. Both games are exceptional in the best in their series.
Don't Cinemester two fans there wrong. There's a lot more people kind of coming,
Uh damn it, that's going to become a clip. There's a lot
more people were changing over to the Mass Effect. On one side, it
feels like it used to be you to only hear mass Effect too. When
people asked what their favorite was always be Clothing says I could still hear Sarah
in my head to this day. See set charges destroy the entire colony,
he says. Mass effect u eo Janni says rock band parties played so much
we broke the plastic foot pedal for the drums. Had to get the metal
reinforcement. Eventually, my broctically the same thing. My brother, Oh that
was that was a racket for a while. Yeah, like reinforced instruments rose
things definitely. Jad Camp says lead tunes act me arsenal. It's some picture
of bugs Bunny with a gun, so that's interesting. Guys. Hell,
that's about someday. Sludge Reinhold says it's time to finish the fight. The
only right choice is portal Screaming Man, says Mann Nflo eight Hat. I
don't want to stop by Ozzy Osbourne and Vince Young on the cover, but
if that won't cut it, Yeah, another vote for super Mario Galaxy.
Heck, even a shout out to Guitargo three Ledge is a rock. Won't
never forget to playing Slow Ride by fog Hat for the first time. Mexa's
Persona three really set the tone direction of what future Persona games would be with
this wonderful cast and engaging social leak system. Also, Boast won the best
Naja a time by the legendary show g mego. Talking about good soundtracks,
it's sanely good. It's insanely good, really good. It's cover rules actually
too, just like, yeah, I listened to the soundtrack all the time,
still like I listened to a lot of Persona music because it is just
good listening music. But I do listen to this specifically all the time because
like the tecto and stuff, and it's very good. The whole esthetics of
Persona three were amazing, you know. That's what kind of carries the series
forward. Still, but it was nailed immediately in Persona three. It's such
a Again, it was a PlayStation two game at this point, right,
we're talking about Halo three and Modern Warfare and BioShock, but Persona the three
still stood out. It was fantastic, definitely. Villam Max says, I
love Halo three, but it's called ditty for a modern Warfare. The game
to truly put cot on the map and change online shooters forever with its progression
joy Z. That was a name like that. Thank you, it says,
I hope you like Daddy's pipe Dream and audiologues because it's BioShock. You
know what I do like pipe Dream? I like that. I like hacking
the you know what, Mike, I do Tom. Yeah, it was
an easy target for people to make fun of, but I like that shit.
Give it to me. I'm all about definitely, Doctor Lynch says,
I think that while my favorite game of the year after Reflection is Super Mario
Galaxy and it is hard to argue against, modern warfare is the most impactful
in the industry. I want to give a shout to the release of the
original Assassin's Creed. It doesn't really hold up at all, and it's certainly
one of, if not the week just gives in the series. In terms
of gameplay, it was brilliant when the first release. As an Islamic historian
and training at the time, the ability to experience these like Jerusalem and Damascus
that I had been stunning that were put together with care along with a cool
narrative was revolutionary for me. And of course we just need to think about
the machine that it has spawned. I mean, I mean, you know,
it is like, it's funny that did start. Then there's a lot
of franchises around then, like Cay and Lynch, God went nowhere, Assassin's
Creed still going very strong. That's true, even with a few roadblocks surface
Kane says, Okay, look, I know this might look like some anime
bullshit. Yeah it does. But as someone who loved fighting games most of
their gaming on the DS, twousy and seven absolutely start for traditional two D
fighting games, Bleach the Blade of Fate was like water in the desert for
me. Chuge you play this? Can you speak to this? Bleach fighting
game for the DS? I did not play this. I will defer a
Christian. Did you play list? Yeah, it's pretty good, it's a
yes. And for the DS, which was weird. I've heard very good
things about it. Bleach games period, and you didn't go like fighting games
on the DS, so it's pretty right, Okay to check out some time.
It's neat interesting. The thing's existence intrigues me for sure. Kess maucusas
Super Mario Galaxy, Hammond of Texas is Team Fortress two. This it's part
of the Orange Box. The gamer remains one of the best playing team based
multiplayers. You just ever made things to also be one of the most popular
games on Steam sixteen years later, be consistently being the top ten on the
Steam Most playlist on a daily basis. Yeah, but I'm calling bullshit on
that. After we tried to play. Oh my god, it was clearly
I think it's almost entirely all bots or something. No, dude, you
guys didn't set up the server properly, because that's so it happened. It
was. That's probably the actual problem. You're right, we might we might
read this. That's some point in all your actual server going. Yeah,
it was a disaster, very poorly. Karaokee Blue says some uh, really
good I'm sorry, chat saying they fixed the botto shoe. We'll see.
Turky Blue says some really good games this year, but I suppose I'll give
my vote to the only game I've gone to. A midnight release for Halo
three, Walmart gave us some dinky plastic dog tags for showing up. School
was brutal the next morning, but it was worth it to play that sweetswee
multiplayer at lunch was Halo three, the one with the Collectors edition that had
the cat helmet. Yeah, this was this was the era of midnight launches
for me. I was going to a bunch ton of midnight launches around this
era. They were always kind of fun. Yeah, I missed the midnight
launch. Uh, I've ever told the midnight launch story that I have.
The last one that I went to was for g well, actually not the
last one. The second last one that I went to was for GTA five.
And this was when I was in my first year at college, well
first of one and a half, but I was going to school in Milwaukee,
and it was very cool because I went to the nearest game stop,
which happened to be sort of in a slightly rough neighborhood, but it was
still it was fine, but it was this interesting hodgepodge of the college kids
and the chilo's just getting off work in there, like construction vests and everything,
and we all show up at the game stop and we're all just talking
about GTA and shit and we're all coming together. The manager put on this
like trivia thing for everybody where It was like reading questions, and uh,
one of them was what is the what was the main character's name in GT
three. I'm just like Yo, it's Claude, And I got myself one
of those promotional boxes that GameStop as, you know, like the big boxes.
Yeah, yeah those are cool. Ye carried that helm on the bus
with me with my shiny new copy of GT five. It was awesome.
Yeah, I just miss Men night Watches so much. Sorry, had squeezed
this. I was glad I got to doing for Tears of the Kingdom.
Its like old times there use. Yes, this game fucking ruled, though
the re release of this recently could use something better than the current racist net
code loll for fight Fight. What what do they mean by racist net code,
Sean. I'm sure it's a joke someone's made at some point, but
this this game has some whack ass net code now where it's like, this
is the only game I've ever fighting game I've ever known that isn't like massively
multiplayer in some way that used like server based and net code. Oh yeah,
so it's really weird. They might be referencing like the fact that it
kind of only works in Japan something like that. Yeah, it's it's odd,
but yeah, virtually Fire five very good game. But yeah, I
remember it was good. I remember also realizing like, man, this game
is good. I remember I played Virtual Fighter like two a lot. I
was like, this got complicated. I remember trying to play because there was
like a Lucid or basically that looked like Raymisterio. So I wanted to play
as it was very difficult. There's a lot going on, but very cool
game. Michael Riley says, I'm new to the producer life. Michael,
so hoping I do this properly. But my game there for two thousand seven
was Call of Duty four. It's the time where Called Duty felt fresh and
innovative. I've fallen off the franchise since then, but that game consumed so
many hours of my high school free time. Yeah, that's basically how I
feel about it. T moneyo Jes says, I think the best game is
My Galaxy, but my favorite is Mass Effect. It's my favorite game of
the series and I played through four or five times. Also introduces to two
of my favorite characters ever, Garris and Rex. Yeah, like there's there
are some very good characters introduced in two, like Thane and like Morgan.
Morgan is that right? You know? Yeah? But I don't again,
oh right, you know? Yeah, one's crew is kind of the best.
There's not a lot of filler here except for those two random human characters.
Okay, more than that's right, Okay, good, thank you.
Chat Zoobemer says after quick Google search, I'm surprised no one has said BioShock
yet. I think somebody said BioShock yet, but the picture of it,
that's why they did the search. Yeah, bioshot said, But yeah,
definitely would be one of my picks for sure. Fishop Fortgnite says, wake
me when you need me. We should not have woke in his ass up.
We did not need him. Shots the Stalker, Metal Bonner Airborne,
which is the best in the series and does a lot of really cool stuff,
but landed at the height of World War two, FPS fatigue and the
switch to Mordern settings. And Guitar Hero three the best guitar Hero that's true.
Doctor Ryan says, would you kindly put this at number one portal and
extremely close number two? They have BioShock here, and MGC says, I
don't know exactly when this series got good track. Media United is the first
game I played in the part racing game, part ultra hard platformer series that
is bizarrely still developed and published by Ubisoft. There are a few greater fiells
in gaming than finally mastering a track that as he's soaring between floating platforms or
careening from massive half pipe half pipe at over four hundred kilometers an hour.
Unfortunately, this series has gone the free to play root These earlier entries,
including twenty sixteen Strict Minia Turbo or Absolute master Classes and anyone who supported Desert
of Hours into super Meat, Voice, ce Lesto, Strun, etcetera,
would be right at home. I never really got into trek Mania, how
about you, Sean. I've messed around with some of the newer ones after
watching like some speed runs and whatnot, but yeah, I never played it
back in the day. Certainly, I didn't realize that was this old.
Honestly, I thought it was a little bit newer than that. But sure
on the PC at least interesting. Bijin Fortuo eight says the original mass effect
in my personal goat Mario game Super Mario Galaxy, a lot of love for
mass effects. One here, I'm the most surprised, but kind of happy,
crouching Kringle hitting crampus is. It's truly a great year because the big
Bang Theory started this year, bazinga. Try. I know you're a giant
Big Bang Theory fan. It must be a very exciting year for you.
Boo, this sucks. I'm a guy who actually kind of likes like the
early two and a half Men too, where it was like dish a war
stuff, and even I couldn't get on board for this no happen it's actually
count that okay, but no, this ship is passed because I bring that
up because it's the same director learn whatever. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
they just did not translate to this. No that squatch x sing says
boring answer, mass effect, oddball answer Route Factory and that made me love
the characters odd personalities and continue every game this series and broke me for Started
Valley and hating the entire town. I never really did play Room Factory or
any of them. Really, It's something I kind of always want to do,
but just yeah, the most recent one, what is it five?
Or like a remakeer? I remember some people said like just play the version
of four on there instead or something I couldn't remember. That's right, Yeah,
which are one? Which are one people have been talking about? Was
that? Sorry? Chat if I was the player rune factory. Which one
should it be? Oh yeah, I think I think it might be five.
But yeah, this has been on my backlog forever. Yeah, I
have to play this, so yeah, I'm interested too. Brad Fish as
Team Fortress too. They show their Steam playtime on it is seven hours.
Okay wow damn. Yeah this hasn't come up yet. Congrats dayson man Tussas.
When I think of two thousand and seven, I think of my favorite
Pokemon gin ever. While slightly and optimized and significantly outclassed by Platinum, these
games introduced a franchise to arguably arguably the most supportant features in the series.
On my play and physical Slash special split. We haven't talked about this yet.
Yeah, you're the Pokemon guy. I like to Diamond and Pearl fine
when they came out. What do you think about Diamond and Pearl. I
believe I'm gonna disappoint Benji Bop in saying this. This is my least favorite
generation of Pokemon long shot. Yeah. I do not like Sinno and everything
that goes with it. I don't like these dumb ass looking legendaries on the
cover. One of them is a weird draft one of them is a penis
monster t A Bucket twenty three does point out this Gen bird lapening though,
so you know, I gotta getros Is to think it looks like a penis.
Dude, it's just a dick and balls. It's weirdd Yeah, Palaka
is weird, but yeah, I've just never liked it that much. It's
it's so safe, is the weird thing. They literally made this with the
intention of it potentially being the final Pokemon game. So they're like, we
are going to make the I think the term was ultimate, the ultimate Pokemon
game. Everything's going to be ultimate, And so what they did is they
made it as like close to Gen one as possible, just like what they
could achieve on the DS. Hey, as it turns out, kind of
boring is how I see it, but is kind of forgettable. I think
we'll talk again in Gen five, right, Yeah, well we'll talk you
in Gen five where we're gonna wall there's a newer one than or an older
one than that. They'll come up first that it's definitely gonna be in the
running Harcold Soul Silver, But I'll say, is Chat's right, Jennifer gave
us Cynthia. Therefore, yeah, number one game of the year. Cynthia,
She's a really cool dancer. Cynthia the group. That's a Rugrats reference.
Sorry, Nickelodeon. Oh my god, he said, Cynthia, that's
what I think of. Uh DNC the pressby Crime says, just pointing this
to Scott, the Watses have beat me at a copy of Chiba robos Plash
eight. Deep Cleavage heard real quick. I have heard that man O eight
is decent. I'll leave you sorry as Deep Cleavage says, y'all snuff to
so Shirley, surely you cannot deny the greatness is Halo three. I think
we keep Halo one love you know we did that. Yeah, it's like,
yeah, they made more. Halo three is on the short list.
Maybe you'll be on the final list. I don't know, maybe not,
but we'll see. Uh grub, He says, here's what the list should
be. Don't argue unless you hate Sick Kids. Be surprised how much I
dislike the kids. Super Mario Galaxy, Modern Warfare, Portal, Mass Effect,
and Crackdown. We haven't even talked about Crackdown yet. I like cracked
Out. It's top five top top five. It ain't top five. I
like, you know someone it's someone who likes the like Hull Ultimate Destruction sort
of gameplay. Sure, not about Crackdown. Sorry what you were saying.
I like Crackeddown. It is more to me than just the Halo three demo
game for sure. Yeah, I don't know about I don't know about top
five. Then Bugetella says, it's Peggl. You know, it's your hearts.
That's one of the best catch is all the time, one that best
look. I like pegl fine, really good, it's really good. But
not Yeah, all right, it's time to start doing some deciding here.
Okay, I think, okay, so I have something to say on the
topic here, Mike, I think, maybe do you split up the Orange
Box? The way people were talking about and the way it's presented everywhere,
I thought about a little more. I'd like everywhere does like I sort of
like looked time, like how do people use and they're like, it's a
compilation run a pool right now? See if people think we should split up
the Orange Box or not. It's a compilation of new games that had just
come out. It's different than a con it is, but nobody got.
Nobody got Just I like nobody got just Portal, they got the Orange box.
It is like one, it's a little weird. It's weird. It's
it's weird, which is why I'm thinking, because it's like if you buy
them today though they're separate products, which is it's two thousand and seven.
You have to get your mind that year right, But it's it's a box
product. It's like I mentioned, I bought the Uncharted trilogy. Why don't
you run a pole? Well, that's gonna be loaded though, because the
people who like air gonna be like, don't split it up. The pole
will be looked because people will vote the way they want to. I mean,
yeah, I don't have access to it. If someone else wants to
do it, I don't know. I can't actually make poles in YouTube.
I think only Jeff's ever had that power. So I guess you can't do
that. Okay, I can do it, give me a second. I
never had this disability for some reason, I can't. I can do it
on a giant bomb. I can make all the poles I want to over
there, So I don't know. I'm curious. Well, if we separated
the series, whatever, we called this if we separate one, the only
one I would really push would be Portal, which I feel like you don't
even like, well that's the thing though, I'm like, I legitimately just
thinking about it, I'm like, it would actually kind of feel weird to
say orange Box, but I would actually be okay saying Portal is in top
five. I don't know something about that. I've seen on the top five
are like at least where they say the straight up the Orange Box. It's
not like we're like being weird about it. It's like a wiki thing.
Know, it shows up as like one entry people like talking about like,
oh yeah, the Orange Box, when like you talk about Portal Life and
Team for Stress like it is a thing. It's not like it's not weird.
You're making it weird. I don't know you're you're weird the weird one.
Yeah, you're making a weird I think the Orange rug is completely okay.
I are you okay? As a collection? Are you okay? If
I put game in quotes, if I say separator one game, it seems
like because it's not it's not a game, it's a collection of games,
and like whatever, yeah, sure whatever, you would well let that run.
What do you think should be number one? I'm curious out of all
of these, that's a very interesting question. Uh. I think it is
between the two that are currently like we sort of have as locks moder Galaxy.
Yeah, Like, I mean, yeah, it's hard to say which
if we're ranking them, which one would be number one. I personally like
modern Warfare more, but I also wouldn't like argue to the ends of the
Earth if someone wants to put Galaxy as one. So like, if you
feel strongly about Galaxy, pretty strongly about Gaxy, it was the one that
probably got mentioned the most in the discord, right I think so, I
think you did. Yeah, and grub had a number one else But I
do think mored Warfare is then number two for sure. Right. That feels
right to me, and I would I would be okay point at two because
it's like, as much as I love it's like, I can't deny how
like legendary Galaxy is at this point. Would you believe the poe is fifty
to fifty? Yeah, we'll just separate them. Let's just talk about portal.
Would you put the top five? I would. I would be totally
willing to put Portal on the top. I like here, I think so
too, because like, do you care enough about Half Life two episode one
to like play as its own things if we do separate them or same with
Team for two. To be honest, Portal was the one I would I
would like put. I would put Team Fortress two there, like if we
want post this list, and I would probably keep it there is where what
I would do there? Yeah? Okay, but like, what do you
think should be number three? Personally? And we don't have this isn't probably
where we have to go. For me, it would be BioShock. Other
people feel strongly about BioShock. I actually thought you were gonna say Portal,
no not maybe not number three. I think I like BioShock even more than
Portal. Okay, well the thing is there. Then I would probably put
another game above Portal. If Portal would be number five, what's that I
would feel either Persona or a rock band Like I would probably think Persona really
more so than rock band. I mean, like I even at that time,
like I liked rock band a lot. I get it. You know,
we were playing in I got over, like I got over a little
bit. It was always fun, it was, but I got to be
talked into playing these games a lot. So if you did it like that,
okay, so yeah, I look acts not gonna happen. The one
I feel more bad about is mass Effect one, just because I'm a little
surprised how much love it got. Uh, but I don't know. I'm
like this, I'm looking at this list right now, this top five for
the audio listeners as it stands like we would have. Number one is super
Mari Galaxy. Number two is called Duty for Modern Warfare. Three is BioShock,
Four is Persona three, Five is Portal. I would I would personally
put Persona three above BioShock. But if you feel strongly enough about that you
want to add three, I think i'd still put Bioshoka three. Again,
I think base Persona three has just enough problem right for me, I'll do
like, uh like that. Uh, and you know, I what I
like to get Massffect one in here? Sure, but again like Mass Effect
two does make a lot of provements mas esfect. What would be number six
for sure? Right? Yeah? Okay, I I feel good about that
list, honestly, Like friendly reminder to everyone, this is the game mess
list. This is not necessarily your list. I'm surprised so strongly people feel
about Mass Effect one, because again, I always thought like it was a
very decided mass effects to a lot more Halo three. Hey, you can
be mad to be about Halo three. I get it. I'm just I'm
sorry. I'm not about hit you. That's fine. Did we forget about
Stalker? I think someone might have mentioned that we glossed over it? But
yeah, I feel good about this list, and I even feel good about
the honorable mentions down below. I think this is solid. And Mike O'Leary
sasn't chad this list makes sense for Sean Addy? Yeah right? Oh yeah,
you guys really which grub us here to force crackdown on the list?
What do you think you'd be getting here? Come on, I feel good
about this. How you feel, Mike? You think this is your final
list? Just leading? I think there's so many big games people are going
to get mad no matter what we do. Yeah, like that, I'm
sure. I'm sure the Halo fan are going to be like not Halo three
on sits down there below the actual list. Mike Hilary is saying that the
list is correct. Yeah, I don't I think you would saying if you
think these five games we mentioned aren't kind of all time great games, so
yeah, upset, I feel good about this one last time. For the
Allio listeners, there is Super Mario Galaxy number one, Call of Duty four,
Modern Warfare at two. Number three is BioShock, number four is Persona.
Three, number five is Portal. It's funny because, like the shift
really is happening with a lot more Western games are still, you know,
like they are outnumbering the Japanese games. I wonder if that's for the first
time or not. Here it'd be interesting to see. Yeah, all right,
let's take one more break, we'll keept back, we'll read last super
chat, talk a little about what we're playing, start wrapping up. How's
that sound sounds good to me? And we are back. Sean, what
have you been playing? I have been playing a variety of things, including
Mario Wonder. I had idolst here, I that divamp. I I am
almost Mario Wonder. I got the final I realized I said on the R
day, I'm sorry about the final Royal Seed. I bet it is right.
So you're you mean like beating you don't mean like the one beat that
bonus I have been one hundred percent as I go. That's why it's been
taking me so right, and I just got the final Royal seed. I
don't know how it ends. I assume you go to Bowser or whatever happens
there, and I know there's a super final level or what final area as
there often is, which I'm looking forward to because, uh, Mike,
I feel like this game is a bit easy. It is a bit easy.
That's that was one of my kind of complaints, I guess, and
hey, look, I get it is a Mario game, but uh yeah,
I did feel that. And I like the challengels. I could even
use more of those, but yeah, I did kind of wish it was
you know, you go about like a Mario three, right, Like that
game's pretty hard. Maybe it was a bit too hard, to be honest,
but it's fun to be much. We're a lot of us, you
know, if you're playing a lot of like New Super Mario Brothers and you're
just playing these ridiculously hard levels, it kind of feels like you were doing
some Goku in the gravity chamber stuff, right, And I just played like
a normal Mario game. Yeah, definitely exactly, So I get that A
little bit okay, cool, Yeah, because that's why I think. That's
why I'm a little a little down on the game, not like, yeah,
I don't know, I think it's really really good, but it's like
it's not like a top five for you. It's not a top five of
the year probably, it's like that's wight now, damn. I'm not I'm
not in the club shit, but no, I'm I'm having a lot of
fun with it. It's just it is. It does feel like there is
sort of like still some new super maarbars DNA and like the platforming and everything.
And I don't know, I think that's fine. Like it is a
very delightful game. I'll give it that, and so I'm still having a
good time even if it is rather easy. I don't know. I yeah,
I think it's really good. That's where I'm saying at I'm I'm sure
like Mario Odyssey was in some hard game, but I never thought that about
I never thought like this feels a little too breezy, little too right,
because there's challenge with or it needs to be challenging. There's a good curve.
I think this game is missing a little bit of the curve. Because
like even that the Lava level, which is what that that is the final
major world. Yeah, outside of the special stages is the Lava world.
Yeah, well, there's like some as you go towards Bowser, there will
be more, but that's like that's the main one. Yeah, Okay,
even that, there's a lot of easy stuff in there, and then like
what three like four star levels. I don't find the four star levels all
that challenging, but you know that that's it's more of a me thing.
It's a family game. They you know, they need a decent curve,
especially since this is gonna be a big multiplayer one. Yeah, gosh,
I haven't really been able to play a whole ton this week, which is
bad because I'm running out of time to play games and I'm going on another
trip. You can play Modern Warfare three, right, Mike, like I
did. Yeah, you guys were doing that. I no, I saw,
I saw you're talking about that. You're just like, I don't have
that game installed now, okay, ye, air Less, I played something
multiplayer to get ready for our thing today. But yeah, I'm not going
to play a campaign or I think is apparently it's ass right, Yeah,
I just know that not even they didn't even consider it. I think I
even like got it code at some point it's just like, nah, that's
that's not going to be I will not be doing that. I mean I
started out in like two, just played a few hours in and enjoying that,
but I want to play more, but I also want to stream it.
So kind of waiting for my internet to get looked at on on Monday,
because it was it's been acting up all week. Knock on wood,
been holding in there during this you got like PIXELI once spoutside that has been
good. So we'll say whenever I start like an MMO, it gets really
bad for some reason. Yeah, I know what that could be fetching playlists
or something that Soun's like making gounk things going on there, So getting that
looked at. I've been on a Tetris kick ever since my Disney trip though,
like I was playing a lot of Tetris effect in Disney, and now
that I'm home, even though like I have Star Ocean, I'm enjoying that.
And I thought I played that tomorrow, but you came out. I'm
actually playing a lot of Tetris ninety nine until interest tomorrow when I get Mario
RPG, which has been fun. It has the Mario ARPG theme that you
were able to earn in that event that was going on earlier. This week,
I finally got a top ten finish, So that's nice to win number
one before. No, no, because I never played that much of it
when it was newer, but I may have had a chance. Now I'm
playing against the Tetris freaks, you know, and they're very good, and
it can get very difficult. And I'm not amazing at tetris. I'm pretty
good tetris, but even I've never got a win. I get a lot
of second places, but I didn't play it. I played a good amount
at the beginning, and now it's like there it's basically as people who are
really good at Tetris outside of when the events happened, which brings Mark casuals
in. Yeah, it's it's tough to get those first place ones. You
did. You mentioned Star Ocean when you're talking about your playing stuff. Have
you have you played any more of that since talking about it? Not really,
I'm so pretty early in that, but I really do like it.
I think I am like, yeah, like I just started to kind of
get the feel, and then I imagine, you know, tomorrow Mario PG,
I'm gonna play through that, and I imagine I'm going to play through
that pretty quickly, and then I'm gonna go right back into Star Ocean because
that that's a fun game and it's probably the best looking HD two D RPG.
Yes, yeah, probably since like Octopath and Live Alive. Right,
I did start it up. I got to, ironically, I got to
like the end of the demo area, but I did the full game.
I got download. I've been playing my PC. First of all, it's
like interesting, playing like an HG two D game at one hundred and twenty
fps. That's it's very smooth, but it feels good. I like the
combat and everything. It's interesting what this package is because you know, obviously
the graphics are like the big draw I don't even know, Mike, Like
the script and the voice acting are apparently pulled from the PSP version, like
the Enhanced port. And it's interest because if you pick Japanese voice options,
it seems like there there was new voice acting for this version. But yeah,
the voice, I think it's it's okay. It does sound a little
like this is this is kind of how these games from two thousand and eight
or whatever. Yeah, it's fine, it doesn't necessarily dude, Uh,
you know who voices the main character? Who is it? Chris Pratt?
That's funny, right, that's name. The voice of Shinjy from a Vangelian
just like this whiny little kid iconic anime voice. How much? How much?
How much Evangelian do you think I've seen? I don't know, Mike,
because I can never tell with you which ones you haven't have. Now
that's fair, I okay, it's it's just weird to hearing kind of a
kid voice though. Yeah, he sounds kind of especially like a cool dude,
and he's kind of a whiny loser. No, in English, the
English voice of Shiny is the English voice of the main character in the Star
Ocean Reaba, because he voiced on the PSP and so it's just like I
just hear this like voice coming out of the PERSI. I'm just like,
you're the little torp who was like, no, father, I don't want
to get in the robot. I'm oh my god, this is weird.
This is he gets in the robot eventually eventually. Does did you have any
other games? Because I have one more. No, I'm basically just waiting
for Mario RPG. I. I did, for some reason reinstall World of
Warcraft and got a description going, I know, just all this stuff about
that that the new expansions, and I'm like, yeah, you know,
I do like just loving characters for funzis so, but again, it has
not been working really well because of my internet, so I haven't been able
to do much except make a new Dray and I Hunter for fund sine last
one I wanted to bring up here because I had a chance to talk about
this anywhere, so I just wanted to like give a shout out, little
goody two shoes. Have you seen anything about this? That's just me.
I've this saying that Jeff actually retweeted about like a while back, because he's
like, this looks like a DS game or something like that I saw back
in the day. What it is is it's a game that it's like an
indie game, you know, like RPG maker stuff. Yeah, right,
you're familiar. There's like a whole subgenre of like RPG maker, like horror
games that are like big on Steam and stuff like that. This spun out
of one of those. This is actually the prequel to one of those.
But it's interesting because it's being put up a square Enix's indie label, the
Collective. I think it is a beautiful game like count if you like pull
up the steam page or something like that. It's very nineties anime inspired anything
like Little Goody two Shoes. It's like like Bubblegum Crisis. That's sort of
like nineties as anime aesthetic, and it mixes that with like everything has a
CRT filter over it. It has like some Alice in Wonderland vibes with like
the graphics and everything. It's very interesting and what it is is, as
far as I can tell, because I only got a little bit into it,
it's like sort of like a psychological horror thing, like sort of sort
of Alice in wonderlandy where, like you know, it's like, hey,
everything's nice because I'm a little gay too, she's and then something twisted happens,
like songs just like off Like I don't know if this was intentional,
but like I was walking up the road to her cabin and like you see
her laundry, but all you see is like pants and socks, so it
like kind of looks like someone's being hanged or something like that. Yeah,
it's sort of like everything's a little twisted there. Yeah, so yeah,
it's interesting. I'm interested in firing this up. It's hella gay, which
you know, always a posit. Here's a girl wants to smooch all the
other girls in town. So you know, if you want to get your
dating simon, it's there for you too. I don't know, I don't
even know how classify its really are. Then yeah, it is like RPG
adjacent. It's it's really cool. I'm digging it so far. I'm looking
to put more time into it. That's a number one where I got up
to like the end of the demo area, but I do have the full
game, and yeah, I'm looking forward to checking out more and like once
things sell down a bit, like end of December or something. Yeah,
it looks really interesting, like you said, well, seemed like verified and
it does just have a demo, so yeah, exactly, Yeah, give
it a chance. There, there go cool. Why don't we read a
rest of super chats here and start wrapping up hows that sound sounds good?
Let me pull them up over here, and the last one with Shiggy,
so we got j Arthur saying two thousand and seven has won my favorite games.
We need to mention this fire emblem. Radiant Dawn. Oh gosh,
yeah, I have Path of Radiance. I still want to play through that.
That's what sucked about this year being amazing is that I barely got to
play any retro games. And I love playing retro games, right, Like,
yeah, I've been acquiring this GameCube collection and actually a decent amount of
Xbox and Place your two kids. I wasn't really able to play a whole
lot of them because it was really just spending all my time catching up with
new releases this time. So hopefully maybe next year I could spend more time
catching up on things like Path Radiance and maybe Radiant don Also, yeah,
I do want to get back to some of those older RPGs that aren't played,
Like I never played Pokemon x D. I played Pokemon Coliseum, but
XD yell darkness I know is like divisive, but I can't watch Like that
sounds like Game Cubert RPG is sure, saraf As Kane says, I put
it in the Discord post, but you only read the first half. So
here's five dollars to point out that bleacheds is developed by Treasure, so you
know it's I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, Saravis well, but also
thank you really appreciate it. Thank you appreciate it. But yeah, definitely
I mean treasures. God. Yeah from William Do you know about more about
Project swear toe from Xbox? No, No, I don't know. We're
not, we're not. I don't know if Jeff knows much about that himself,
but no, I don't. I don't know much about that at all.
Project swear swear tay s U E R t H. I'm sorry.
Maybe yeah, well, oh is that monster Hunter? I think for certain
affinity, right, were the monster Hunter thing? Yeah? I don't think
we Yeah, I don't think we know anything that Jeff hasn't said elsewhere.
So if you're up to dating that, I think, yeah, I think
you're up to. I don't think I would imagine. He probably doesn't have
any new info on that. We can I'll ask him when I see him
tomorrow in person. And then last one here is from Alan Merrickle, who
says it's shind make Got Me, Shind make Got Me tense persona three.
Thank you heart. Oh that's I think I kind of miss uh. I
liked it better when it actually had that. It was like a subtitle that.
Yeah, that was always weird though because that was actually only here in
the West. Oh yeah right exactly, So like I got it while they
stopped doing it. But it's odd that they would like associate with SMT here
in the West but non Japan, where SMT is actually big, Like that
feels odd to me. Maybe you like, hey, this solo game of
the same ILK Like I like, I can release a lot of SMT games
on the PlayStation two, so I guess like, well, there's some kind
of audience for that, so we may as well put that out. Even
Persona was Revelations Persona on the PS we originally they tried in the Place one
era. That's like, that's what we're going to call shimmigum tents. We're
gonna call revelations and yeah not stick by PS two you had Nocturn, you
had the uh the double some Summoner or Survivor games. Yeah, yeah,
that was one, and there was like the more traditional turn based ones.
There's a bunch of PS two ones. Yeah, I guess some points,
I shad may they're piggy backing off of Nock Turn, which Nock Turned to
get. Okay, yeah it did, okay, Yeah, for some reason
I missed that, Like I in my heart percent of five and sometimes I'm
still yeah, she become me ten side person of five. But I get
it all right. Well, I do believe that is gonna be it.
Then Mike say, uh, I hit the music week out here the music
let's get out of here. Thank you so much for hanging out everybody.
It's always nice to see everyone hanging out, even if Jeff can't make it.
Appreciate it, and again, sorry about that. He had a sick
kiddo to take care of. They don't forget uh. On Saturday pretty much
all during the day there, Jeff and I are gonna be with Dan Record
and the wind Bag. I'm going to actually learn his real names soon.
We're gonna be streaming from Dan's house, going to be on the time.
We're going to raise money for the kids. Really excited about that, so
please please do tune in. Sean, thank you so much for jumping in
there the last moment. I appreciate it. Oh yeah, no problem,
Mike. You and of course if people want to see why I'm up on
yournet. You know, you can go over on Twitter dot com Turbo Shawn
Underscore. I'm Turbo Shawn Shawn everywhere else, Blue Sky Twitch, all that
good stuff. Yeah right here on the game as you know, I do
Game US Jeopardy. So hey, newest Patron episode is with Bailey Myers.
That was a blast. So if you're a Patreon you check that out.
Public episode with our Palpanduash is up live for everyone on the Public channel.
And then yeah, I'm also doing giant bomb stuff social media over there and
some editing and whatnot. Go check out the vod that we have unprofessional Fridays
on a Thursday. Oops, all Nicki's edition where we ran around called Duty
war Zone and oh hell yeah that was good and Marl Warfare three as Nicki
minaj It was hilarious. And then hey, if you're like watching live or
like listening early in the day on Friday, we will be doing a a
Thursday night throw down on a Friday that's at one pm Eastern. We're gonna
check out the new Mario Kart tracks. So hey, you want to play
some Mario Kart, there you go, and uh yeah, wow, Saturday
episode three three, we're here probably probably next Tuesday. I imagine I've watched
the episode. I'm ready. It's a good episode, better than episode three,
episode four. Let's go, it's alliance. It's a fun one.
I am too well. You Columbros Perverse can get your columbros on there you
go, Yeah, exactly, it's it's happening. Well, just one more
thing, all right, thank you so much, everybody see as soon.
Bye. What is this? Jeff, We're coming. They are going to
come toward Zelda. That's such a good combent. Jeff is dead. There
is a break all right. By the way, if anyone watching live sees
me like looking over there, it's because I'm looking at my TV where I
have to stream build up to make sure everything's okay. You're just watching hockey
while doing this, so you can really capture the Jeff brad essence. What
do I look like I've got a sports pervert? Get that out. I'm
definitely not. I'm playing out magic the Gotarine arena right now, all right.
I mean Mike's holding magic cards, so it would be I do.
It's like my new fidget thing actually is like I have some I don't forget
where I even got these, but I kind of just these aren't the Lord
of the Rings ones. What are you really? You other ones? What
do you think? I think these were just randomly in like my summer game
fest bag, a bunch of packs or something. Yeah, so I don't
know. I just I like fiddling with these. I had to have something.
I had a fidget spinner, but I'm where it's lowed. I have
one of these, uh like this thing. This used to say a w
on it, but my fingers have scrub that off. Like a little popper
things. Yeah, a little popper thing. Okay, I'm a fidgetter.
I definitely the cue the cube that has a bunch of stuff and it looks
pretty cool. I like, yeah, I think I did. I think
Jeff did the exact same thing. I think it was Jeff who said this.
It might have been someone else, but like I broke the uh you
know how like on a gaming mouse. Some of them the scroll wheel we
have like a lock on it. Yes, yes, I would unlock it,
spin the wheel and then lock it. Yeah, and I broke the
lock, so I better do that. Uh you want me to grab those
super chests, Mike if you want too, Sure, yeah, I got
im pulled up right here. All right, I'll bring us back in,
please do it. What about the people he murdered. I'm sure somebody said
one of those about supper off. Oh that would be good. Yeah,
if they haven't they needed all right? Uh, I think I can still
just go right back into it. Oh yeah, let me, I am.
I am pulling up on my phone real quick, just so it's not
popping out on stream. Okay, I'm pulling up a list and then I'll
pull up the painting walk around theme park. That's good to know. Oh
cool. Yeah, we should be good where we are, all right?
All right, we are in the break right now. This is a commercial
break. You wanna take a leak where you wanna drink? Actually? Yeah,
let me take take Penny out. Penny is not here. She's importing
because I'm flying home tomorrow. Strange. Hey, I was wondering why we
couldn't hear Penny. Yo. Good now, Christian, I'm realising the one
problem here is that we aren't good be able to say persona three fez like
next year. It's okay, at least persona three gown there at some point,
right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a good game. I think it's
pretty funny. Yeah, I think people latch onto. It's very good.
I think I think people latch onto. How the answer right, the answer
isn't very good. Yeah, let's see how we doing on the stats and
everything. Well, for a hundred likes and we didn't even have to like
poke improv people too art. But thanks everybody. You know how Mike likes
to get over the hundred likes. But hey, if you haven't pressed it
yet, make sure hit that thumbs up. But yeah, we will get
to the super chats here when Mike is back. So if anyone has a
last mid ones, I said, uh, Ali, put one in there.
We'll definitely get to those in just a second. I'm a little surprised
you let me put person and three over Portal. God, be honest,
I didn't know if that would fly, But I'm glad mikey likes it so
seemed to work out. Sorry for we not unique enough for this, no,
because that is ultimately just support, even if it is like an enhanced
port and everything. Yeah, I like Persona three more than every video and
that's on that list. So I do really like Mario Galaxy. I do
really like my Galaxy bro. I don't like it more than a Person of
three. Yeah, that movie. Watch that movie, the Person three movie,
because I think it's a pretty cool. I don't know. I yeah,
I don't think it's an adaptation. I think it's it might be what
do you call it, an interquel where it like takes plays in between some
stuff. Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. Okay, I'll have to
check out at some point because that is I saw it there. I've watch
the other anime is cool, Like, I like how the four one just
sort of like makes fun of the main character a little bits, like he
was a dumb ass in your playthrough, wasn't he? He's gonna act like
a dumb ass. That's kind of cute. Do you watch five? I
don't know. They look cheapest. A'm gonna lie to you. Did you
tweet out the list? Or should I do? I did not? You
want me to because I can't, chef, I don't know if you're still
here? Yeah, you know what? Actually, yeah, you tweeted and
I'll retweet or whatever. That's good, Tiger, then he want he would
like to know. I don't want to, would be upset about you probably
want rock Man I imagine. Yeah, I don't think he would not.
He's definitely not get for Sony. Yeah, definitely. This is a jarpy
g. What you have to stuff will happen. Yah. I don't know.
Someone asked about the poll because when it was really close, and then
we're just like, yeah, I mean, it wasn't like some binding thing.
It was fifty and I I kind of got the argument. I did.
Yeah, I get it. I literally looked up I G in two
thousand and seven Game of the Year said the Orange Books. Oh right,
Yeah, you know I don't think even back then, I did think that
was cheating. I have to admit. Yeah, no, Crackdown. Will
you hate sick kids? Yeah, I don't see it. I see it.
Yeah, I told you they did. It might get me sick.
Keep Also, who loves sick kids like you want them to be healthy?
That's true? Yeah, would it be better to be healthy? We are
keeping crack Uh. I'm just gonna say crack list. We're keeping cracked down
off the list as a service here on your head. I have tweeted it.
I have tweeted it. That's a good point. It would be like
saying your favorite arcade game is the arcade, I go to no, that
ain't no. That's what get the funk out of Let's get back to it. Mhm