At at Hey, everyone, thanks so much for tuning in to another live
stream episode of dog Man Encounters Radio. Really appreciate you joining us. Tonight's
guest wish is term me an anonymous, and with that in mind, I'm
just gonna call him Sam on tonight's show, Sam, thanks so much for
joining us. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, you're welcome.
I appreciate your time. Sam. Please give us a brief bio on
yourself. Absolutely. I am forty four years old. I'm married, have
two kids and a dog. I work in a management position where I have
a lot of responsibility for a large company. I live in southern Ohio.
I like old cars. I have a nineteen seventy Chevelle sitting in my driveway
right now. I'm looking at it and something I want to work on soon.
Pretty much just your average guy. I'm also a musician. I've been
a musician for twenty years. I have a small studio at my home.
And yeah, I mean that's pretty much. It sounds to me like the
only thing missing is the white picket fence around your property. Or do you
have a picket fence? Actually I do not. I Actually it's funny that
you say that I used to I used to sell fence, so it's kind
of funny that you say that. But no, I live on a lake
and very quiet rural community in southern Ohio, Lots and lots of woods and
it's very rustic, but I love it. Well, it sounds to me
like that picket fence is probably coming sooner rather than later. You've got all
the other boxes checked off. Yeah, it sounds like a good life you've
carved out for yourself. Definitely does. Sam. You're here to talk about
a dogman encounter you had, but excuse me, You've had a lot of
other experiences with sasquatch and pure normal beings all the above. Which experience do
you think was the most frightening though not including the dogman encounter yet? Well,
I've always had a long history of weird things happen in my life.
The one that I can say that is probably the most frightening was I grew
up in a home that was uh, let's just say, let's just say
that it was haunted, and something used to come and sit on the end
of my bed every night. When I was a kid, about five six
years old. It started and you could see the depression in the bed,
and of course I would I would freak out. I would jump up and
run of my parents room and scream and cry, and they would say I
was just having a nightmare or I had overactive imagination. But you could hear
the springs on the bed creak, you could see the sheets depressed. So
I would cover my head up and terrified. I would just cover my head
up, and as soon as I brought the blanket down, I could feel
like breath on my face. It just happened so much. Eventually I just
got more annoyed with it than anything. But it used to terrify me.
There were a lot more things that happened in that house, very uh,
very weird. Things would happen, a lot of paranormal things. But out
of all my experiences, and there's been quite a bit, that's probably some
of the some of the worst ones that really kind of lived with me to
this day, I still that's just an eerie feeling that I have. You
know, that that whole something sitting on the end of the bed thing.
Wow, that's horrible. You poor a guy. Nobody should have to go
through that. I mean, life as a kid can be difficult enough not
to mention when it's a situation where you have to worry about that every night.
That is awful. But the good news is here, you are a
grown adult who's well adjust didn't You've got a good life carved out for yourself,
so it couldn't have been convenient, but at least you got through that,
and I mean you definitely have won it life, so that's a good
thing. Absolutely, Oh, definitely. Like I alluded to just a bit
ago, dogg in our the only cryptids you've seen, You've also had some
sasquatch experiences, and from what I understand, the first sasquatch encounter you had
was probably the most terrifying one. What can you tell us about that?
Well, my family has a long history with sasquatch up until my own encounter
when I was about seven years old. I grew up on stories from my
father's father, my grandfather, who would tell stories about seeing a big,
hairy monster when he was younger. Scared him so bad in West Virginia that
he moved to Ohio. But then later my uncle actually went out hunting with
him and supposedly shot a big foot. It's very well known in our family
that my uncle was an avid hunter. He'd hunted big game all his life.
He was always in the woods Woodsman, But after this encounter not more
than twenty minutes from where I live now, it scared him so bad that
he unloaded a full clip onto this bigfoot point blank range. What he called
a big foot. My grandfather always called him a demon. I don't know
why he called it that, but I grew up on stories of my uncle
shooting bigfoot. But you're right. Later on in life, when I was
seven years old, after my parents got divorced, I would spend a lot
of time with my mother's father and mother, my grandparents down in eastern Kentucky.
A lot of strange things happened down there, which I think my grandparents
were very aware of what these things were. My grandmother would always tell us
not to go out at night because the booger would get you. That was
always for a thing. That was always the threat, don't go out at
night. We couldn't chase lightning bugs, we couldn't go out after dark.
But during the day they didn't care. We could run all over the hills
and you know they didn't care. But during night we were in every night,
and my family down there, all my family throughout the region down there,
because it's a pretty big family, had these stories of what they called
the calker apparently was this big, white, hairy creature that lived in the
woods, and you know, sometimes dogs and animals would go missing. But
my grandfather actually, one morning early while I was staying there the summer,
woke me up and invited me to go check his trout line, which,
if anybody doesn't know what a trout line is, it's basically just a string
between you know, trees on one side of the river and the other.
They waded it down with rocks, put hooks on it and baited it with
you know, crawl dads and minnows and whatnot. Now, Grandpa usually fished
on one side of the river or made this giant es curve the Kentucky River
did, and he usually fished on one side. But this morning he woke
me up and he said, hey boy, you want to go fishing.
Of course, me being a young kid, I was like, yeah,
absolutely, I want to go see what you caught. And so we get
up and we walk this long trek down this dirt road. And they lived
in the absolute middle of nowhere. They didn't drive, no FOAE, no
TV, anything like that to speak of. And we walked down to this
other part of the river, which was probably a good three miles down this
dirt road, and we walked down this embankment down to this flat area which
I don't know if you'd call it a river bottom, but there was a
hill on one side that had the road, and then the hill on the
other side that had you know, this big giant hill. And we were
walking down and I remember it being super quiet. The only thing I heard
was these big tall weeds on either side of this little one foot one and
a half foot dirt path, and it was just super quiet. I smelled
this awful smell, which I thought was fish or a low river you know,
whatever they call it during the summer when the river's low they call the
dog days of summer, adult swim in the river, bacteria or whatever.
Well, my grandfather he's never been really a, I don't know, an
affectionate kind of person. He never really put it, you know, give
us a hug or shook your hand or anything like that. But in this
occasion, we started walking down this pass and we heard this awful noise up
on the hill to the left of us, opposing the road, and it
sounded like something was breaking sticks and making noise, and it just sounded like
this awful tamper temper tantrum of like like if you imagine Andre the Giant just
getting really mad and breaking sticks and throwing things and making this awful noise.
Well, my grandfather immediately stopped me put put his hand in the middle of
my chest. And like I said, my grandfather never touched me, so
when he put his in the middle of my chest, I knew something was
wrong. And he looked at me and he slowly put his finger up to
his mouth to be quiet. And I'm a young kid, I'm you know,
seven years old, and I'm like, what you know, I'm loud.
I'm like, what's going on, Grandpa? And he looks at me
and just kind of shakes his head and puts his finger back up, and
we keep hearing this noise. Well, he grabs my shoulders and he turns
me around. He physically turns me around the path and we start walking back
toward the road and back up the embankment. We get back up to the
road, and we still hear this awful noise, and it's just it's a
horrible I can't describe it. It just sounds like something's ripping the woods apart,
like a bulldozer's going through the woods, and it's big, whatever it
is. And I look at him and I'm like, what's wrong and what's
going on? And he's like, well, I'll come back and check that
one later. Maybe let's just go home and see what grandma has for breakfast.
And then, of course, me being a kid, I'm like,
okay, that was really weird. But looking back, I've heard so many
stories of a big, white bigfoot in this area, which my family notorious
for the last well since my mom was a little girl, probably sixties.
They've called this thing the calker, which I thought was a very unusual name,
But listening into podcasts and other research, I've also learned that a lot
of Southern people call bigfoot boggers. Well, my grandmother was notorious for talking
about buggers and don't go out at night, they'll get you. So for
me, that was that was. I had a lot of other experiences down
there throughout a couple of summers that I just can't explain. And the only
thing I can attribute it to now knowing what I know, and you know,
the research I've done and listening to podcast is that there was absolutely,
without a question of a doubt, a bigfoot, a white bigfoot, of
all things in that area. And if you do some searching, you'll find
that that white bigfoot are actually more common than what you think. I mean,
a bigfoot alone is you know, wow, you know a bigfoot,
you know sounds crazy, but a white one, yeah, that sounds even
crazier. But this was kind of a common thing growing up of what my
family dealt with and talked about, from shooting bigfoot to experiencing this to other
things that just couldn't really make sense of as a kid. But now as
an adult, and I'm like, wow, I kind of went through some
stuff when I was a kid. So I've had some experiences that have really
made me wonder like what was really going on? So absolutely I've had some
bigfoot experience. Do you think all of these experiences that you've had, both
the sasquatch experiences and the pure normal ones might have in a way conditioned you
for that dog man encounter you had. I don't think anything can condition you
for what I saw I think that I always expected to see a bigfoot.
That was always my thing. I always thought, hey, I'll I'll probably
see a bigfoot one day. Maybe i'll be out, or I'll go back
home and visit, you know, Kentucky. Maybe I'll see one, and
you know, a glimpse of my eye, you know, corner my eye
whatever. I never in a thousand years would have imagined that a dog man
was the thing I was going to see. Now. I was a kid
that went to the library. I always got you know, Mysteries and Monsters
of America with Patty and locking Us Monster. I love monster movies, you
know, I watched all this scary movies growing up. I love monsters and
stuff like that. But I never in a thousand years imagine that this would
be the thing that I would physically see that would change my life in this
way. Well, you know what they say, you never expect to have
a dog me in encounter until you have one, So that's understandable. It
is all right, Sam, Please tell us about your encounter. Now,
give us every last detail that comes to mind. Okay, Well, this
would have been October of two thousand and twenty. I'd just taken my daughter
to a choir recital. So we were driving back from town. I live
about fifteen miles or fifteen minutes outside of town, roughly about ten miles,
and it was about nine thirty at night. We're driving down one of the
main highways out of town, and we got about a mile or so not
far out of town, and it was there was no one else on the
road. It was it was quiet, surprisingly, and then all of a
sudden I saw this big wolf dog looking thing shoot across the road. Now
when I stay shoot across the road, this thing moved like nothing I have
ever seen. I was a boy scout, I was you know, raised
in the woods, hunting, fishing, camping. I've seen coyote, I've
seen bear, I've seen you know, all kinds of things. I've seen
the documentaries on cheetahs. This thing moved like nothing I've ever seen before.
And when it ran across the road, I had a newer car, so
the headlights are pretty good, so it was only about forty feet in front
of the car, so I got a really good look even though it was
moving except I mean just amazingly fast, and I kind of took my elbow
and I bought my daughter's elbows sitting next to me, and she's a teenage
girl, so she's on her phone and I said, look at that.
And she's like kind of just kind of stared at me after she saw it,
and I said, ope, was that And she goes big dog,
sarcastically, like literally a teenage girl, you know, a big dog,
and she goes right back to her phone. And I don't know, like
there was something about it. The way it moved was just so unnatural.
And I didn't realize how big this thing was until later, and I'll get
to that, but what I saw was a large canine wolf like creature.
It had dark brown or black hair. It had a big, shaggy mane.
It had two big pointed ears like a Doberman pincher that stuck straight up,
and even though it was moving really fast, the ears were still predominant.
They were still sticking straight up. And it had a big muzzle like
a German shepherd. I could tell that it kind of had a tail,
but not like a big, bushy tail. It looked like all the motion
was literally coming from the lower legs. I couldn't tell if the legs and
the rear were odd shaped, or if the front hands were hands or paws.
I couldn't really tell. It was just moving in a way that the
legs almost looked like a blur. It covered probably right around three hundred yards
in a matter of four or five seconds. I mean it was that fast.
It moved so quick. I can't even explain it. It's hard to
put into words how quick this thing moved. But it just so happened to
get right in my headlights, where I got such a good view of it.
I go home, I tell my wife, hey, I saw this
weird dog thing, and you know, she's like, okay. She didn't
really think nothing about it. She kind of bowed. Well, I got
things. Well, I'm only like ten minutes from there. It's like ten
minutes from my house. And I started getting a little nervous. But I
didn't have like an impeding sense of doom, right, I didn't have this
you know, oh my gosh, it's coming for me or anything like that.
But I did, you know, I was cautious of it. I
did think that, you know, hey, this thing that is pretty close
and that was was a big, weird looking dog. Well, a short
time later I went back and I stopped where I saw it on the road.
I pulled over. There's like a little area there. You cross a
bridge and there's a there's a big, big creek, and both sides of
the road are empty in October there they they're cornfields and cow pastures, so
it's pretty empty. And I got looking and there's a construction sign because they
just repaved the road, and this construction sign I co opted to and I
physically like, I brought out a tape measure. I'm a handy guy.
I've got one in the car. I brought one out and I measured up
to where I saw this thing. And the shoulders where this thing was was
over four feet So in my mind I instantly got kind of like a shock
or a scare. I thought, Okay, this thing was way bigger than
I thought it was. And now I'm getting more nervous. I'm getting a
little bit more anxious. So growing up on a farm and in the woods
and whatnot, I immediately saw it. Okay, if this thing had shoulders
that were over four foot high, this thing had to weigh over five hundred
pounds easy, and had it stood up, it probably wasn't that eight eight
and a half nine foot realm. So I immediately, you know, went
home to wife and like, hey, I went back out there, and
this thing was huge, And of course she again didn't really think anything about
it. And of course I didn't want to tell anyone that I saw this
giant wolf like creature for fear of you know, being mocked or you know,
think I'm crazy. Of course, I've got a job where I like
again I said, up, I've got a lot of responsibility, and I
want anybody to think that I'm not stable. So I just couldn't wrap my
head around how very big this thing was. Once I actually got out,
I did look for Paul Prince and whatnot. I didn't see anything, but
you know, the way it moved it almost seemed supernatural. But I did
see it impact the environment. I saw it, you know, step in
the grass. It ran from a dry creek that on the left side of
the road. It ran immediately in front of me, and it hit the
tall grass and the bushes on the right side of the road. Like I
said, the space was was a good three hundred yards and I could see
it impact the environment, so I know it was real. I know it
was a flesh and blood animal. It just didn't make sense to me the
way that it moved. And I still to this day, I can't wrap
my head around that it was. It was. It was crazy. It
just it just sounds crazy just saying it, but it was. It was
really that fat. Now, after I had the encounter and whatnot, it
was, it was probably not too long, but I started. I started,
and this is going to sound even crazier or so I but trust me,
I've never experienced anything like this in my life. I started having change
lucid, very lucid, like realer than reality dreams. Now, at first
they didn't seem that bad or that awful that they just seemed strange. It
was where I could see myself and my family, but we were living this
completely different life. My kids' faces looked different, my wife's face looked different.
It was so strange. And when I first started having them, like
what is happening? And I actually mentioned to my wife, I said,
I'd been having these really strange dreams where we're like living this other life and
you don't look like you and the kids don't look like you, and it's
just really strange. Now, over time, these dreams started getting darker and
more sinister. Almost I started feeling like something was watching me. And then
I started this big shadow of like a wolf or a wolf like creature off
in the distance. And it seemed like with every dream it would get closer
and closer. And then eventually the dreams started getting really dark to where I
knew, you know, I was with my family. They didn't look like
my family. It felt like some kind of alternate reality, like they didn't
look like them, but I knew they were them. With all my fiber
and being, I knew this was real. Those are my kids. I
knew I had a hit, So I love them, I love my wife,
you know, this was our life. But started getting really strange,
and even in one dream where and this is again it's gonna sound nuts,
but we're standing on a beach. My kids are there, my wife is
there. I have friends that I don't recognize, but I know they're my
friends. Everyone's faces look different, and a baby, and this is going
to sound crazy, a baby triceratops washes up on the beach and everyone freaks
out and starts running away. Now they say, you can't dream about a
face you've never seen, But I've seen tons of them, and they were
my own family, but I can't recognize them. I've gone back through social
media, I've googled different faces. I'm kind of an artist, so sometimes
i'll sit down and draw. I was drawing a little boy's face one day
and my wife goes, what are you drawing? I said, this is
what I dreamed of. That's what our son looks like in this other place
that I dreamed about. And she's like, that's weird, and I said,
I know, I can't explain. I have you ever seen this kid
before? And she's like, no, that makes no sense to me.
So, but it seemed like the dreams just got more dark and more dark,
up until the point where this dog like thing just kept creeping into my
dreams. And I don't know if it was just my brain's way of coping
with what I saw. Maybe it was just some trauma my brains trying to
deal with. I don't know. I can't say that it's supernatural, but
I know that these are super lucid dreams of alternate realities that that I can't
explain. Now. A short time after these dreams started getting dark, I
did wake up one night and I swear I saw a giant wolf shaped shadow
standing in the doorway. Now I've heard all the stories, I've listened to
podcasts, I've heard you know, these things follow you home, or they
haunt your dreams. Whatever this was was huge and it terrified me. I
couldn't make out details, but I could tell it was the outline of this
big dull upright canine. And I couldn't move. I mean, I was,
I was. I was petrified. Now, I don't know. Some
people could say that was a dream, but I don't think it was a
dream. I felt awake. I felt like I was looking at something that
just sucked the life out of me, like those those you know creatures on
Harry Potter when they suck all the will to live and life out of you,
like the That's how I felt like. This thing was there to just
just suck every part of that was happy out of me. And eventually it
disappeared, and I jumped up and I started freaking out. I had an
instant panic attack. My wife was like, what's wrong, and I said,
you know, I saw something. I can't explain it. I don't
know, I don't know if it's related. Again, I don't know if
it's my brain trying to make sense of this, this dog man encounter.
But these things have never happened to me. I've had some weird stuff happened,
paranormal type stuff, but nothing like these lucid dreams or this this wide
awake experience of something standing in you know, my night. Now. I
have had a couple other strange things happen since this. I have. Recently,
I had laid my son down. I have a young son. I
laid him down in his bed in his room, and I fell asleep in
there next to him in his bed. And he's got a little spider man
bed that's really lowed floor, so it's hard for me to get up and
down. But I lay down, and I didn't realize that I fell asleep
well about two forty seven, two forty eight in the morning. I know
this because I grabbed my phone as soon as it happened. I heard this
loud knock on his door. Well, it was loud enough that it woke
me up, I mean, like jolted me out of a dead sleep.
And then I'm laying there and I'm trying to get like my bearings. I'm
trying to figure out what just happened? Did a picture fall off the wall?
What happened? And then it did it again? And I could hear
the doorframe rattle. It was so hard. I thought maybe my wife was
up or my daughter. So I get up out of this low profile bed.
I swing open the door. I flip on the hallway light and there's
no one there. I walk into my bedroom. My wife's there asleep,
dead asleep. I look at my daughter's room. The dog is out.
The dog didn't make a noise. Now, this dog, as soon as
you knock on the door or someone walks in the driveway, this dog is
barking. Didn't make a sound. And I thought, Okay, what's happening?
So I go around and look at all the pictures on the wall,
look at you know, maybe something fell. Then I start thinking, oh
oh, did something hit the side of the house. So I flip on
all these floodlights. I have three sixty floodlights around my house. I flipped
them all. It lights up my yard and my side lot. I can
see everything on it. I come outside, I light up a cigarette and
I'm walking around and I'm outside for like fifteen twenty minutes, just looking,
looking, looking and I don't see a soul, and I'm like, what
was that. That's never happened to me before. Nothing like this has happened
to me since I was a little kid, and part of me was wondering.
And I know, Vicky, you know, you and I talked about
this. But did seeing this dog man open up a door or open up
something inside me to where I'm starting to experience more paranormal activity. I don't
know, but I know that the dog man's siding was was one of the
scariest things I've ever experienced in my life. The only thing I can attribute
to or even describe it to. When I'm trying to tell someone, which
I don't tell a lot of people about this because I don't want to seem
crazy, but this thing looked like a gnarly American or what is it an
American werewolf in London that old movie. That's how it looked. It didn't
look scrawny. It had wider shoulders and kind of tapered down to the back.
You could tell it was was bigger upfront than it was in the rear.
But it looked just like this gnarly Well what a word can you use?
But werewolf from what I grew up on these movies, silver Bullet and
whatnot. But the American werewolf in London was it was a sure this thing
has and it just impacted me in a way that I don't I can't explain
it. I'm a pretty logical, well headed guy. I don't I don't
you know, two drugs or anything like that. I just pretty average guy.
But this would change my life in a way that most people can't understand.
Like when you try to explain it to people, they just, you
know, you get that deer in the headlights look like hey, I saw
this, and then you explain and you describe and they look at you like
okay, but until you actually see it, and now you know, these
things are real. Now we grew up on monster movies. These things are
not supposed to exist, and I saw one forty feet in front of my
car. I couldn't imagine not being inside my car. These people that have
had these upclose personal encounters with these things. I can only imagine the trauma
that this has caused them. This is something that is so raw fear emotion.
This thing is real and it is so terrifying, just out of your
nightmares. Now do I feel traumatized by this? I mean, it's it's
definitely changed me in a way that I don't think i'll ever recover. It's
definitely opened a door. I'm more interested than I am traumatized. I have
now. I take precautions. You know, I go out at night,
I flip all my floodlights on. I just don't want to walk up on
something, you know, accidentally or surprise and have that fear again. I'd
rather have my lights on and see something off in the distance than I would
up close. Now again, I don't I don't have like I'm not going
to go out and look for one, but I like to see one again.
I don't know that. I think I'd rather see a big foot from
you know, four hundred charts away through a pair of binoculars than I would
one of these things again, because they're just so terrifying. But I'll tell
you that it is. It is a life changing event that most people can't
wrap their heads around. And it changed me in a way that I haven't
felt since I was a little kid. And I've got more strange, weird
things that are happening my place of employment. I've got these strange videos from
night security of shadow people and weird, weird things happening that haven't happened to
me since I was you know, six, seven, eight years old,
and I can only attribute it to seeing this dog Man, and I can
tell you that dog Man is a legitimate thing. Like for all those people
out there who hear this and know, I hope that this educates you in
a way that you can understand these things are real, they do exist.
And I'm a big supporter of Vic and his show because he tries to help
people who have been traumatized by this. I can see where that could happen
very easily. I was fortunate, I was in my car. I was
prepared, you know, in a way that most people weren't that had an
up close encounter or you know, could you imagine being one of these people
that had it, you know, tapping on their window in the middle of
the night, this big nine foot grinning, you know, werewolf looking creature
tapping on your window or mind speaking to you to come outside. I can't
imagine the trauma and the tear that that would put in a person that it
would be hard to recover from. So for this show, I think that
that is amazing. What VIC is doing, I think is just is great
helping people. I don't think that I was traumatized, but I definitely was
impacted in a way that I don't think there's ever going back to a normal
life again. It's it's I think about it a lot. I read a
lot, I listened to podcast after podcasts I read, you know, I
watch YouTube videos. You can easily tell where these people are are faking this
speak, because when you've seen one for real, you're like, Okay,
no, that's that's not real. I've seen trail camera as an a AI
generated pictures and I'm like, no, that that does look anything like what
I saw. Same with with with bigfoot. I've never actually saw a bigfoot,
but usually you can tell you Okay, that's that's fake, that's made
up. But I can I can tell everyone who's listening dog man is a
real thing, and it has it is just it's it's I think it's part
of nature. I really do. I don't. I think just like Sasquatch,
I think that it's part of nature, whether they have paranormal mobilities or
or the ability to uh you know, mind speak. Teleport portal whatever it
is, I don't know about all of that. I don't know if I
buy them to the Nephilm theory. I love listening to a lot of different
theories about what they are, but honestly, I just think it's a part
of nature. I think they've been here for a very long time, all
the way back to Egyptian times. You know, you have a Nubis,
you have the Nephilom, you have all these stories of hybrid creatures. I
think they've been here for a very long time. I just don't know what
it is, but I do know it's something straight out of a horror movie
in every way. So I hope that, you know, maybe me telling
my story will help someone out there to understand that, you know, even
though you saw this thing, you know you're still up and walking around.
If it wanted to get you, it could. You know. I've been
in the woods a thousand times, a million times when I was a kid.
Nothing's ever came at me. And I can only imagine how many times
these things are watching us. If they wanted us, they could. Maybe
they know, maybe they know that you know, if I if I kill
a human, then fifty other ones are going to come and into my home
and into my territory, and they're going to you know, come with their
guns and maybe they have a spoken language of some kind or a spoken history.
Maybe they know just like Bigfoot. Hey, if if I do something
wrong and mess with these little you know, humans, then there's going to
be repercussions. Then a hundred of them are fifty em are going to come
in and and trump through my woods and try to find out what happened,
or shoot and attack. I don't know. I really think that there's there's
more to it. There's probably a lot more to it than what we know.
But I'll tell you what this is eye opening to just have actually seen
physical something in my adult life that I can't explain. So I hope that
this, you know, helps others and just know that everything will be okay.
And I really feel like educating people and telling the truth because obviously I
don't go out and announce this or you know, scream this from the street
corner. This is just something that happened to me that that that I hope
that you know, people understand that you know, these things are real and
the more you learn about them, the better you are. And I don't
think they're bloodthirsty killers. But I do think, you know, just like
people, I think there could be bad ones. There could be good ones,
of course, you know, there could be just like humans, there
could be you know, you might find one that's just in a bad mood
one day, or one that you know is not mentally well or was just
shot at or you know that you could of course, there's always that chance,
and these things would be the ultimate predator killer that you would not want
to be next to one that was like that. But I can't say,
you know for sure, But that's you know again, I'm just guessing.
But I think that for the most part, these things just want you to
leave them alone and stay out of their their area. Now, why this
one ran across the road when it did, because I had no traffic behind
her in front of me. Why it ran across the road when it did,
I don't know. I think they're super smart. I think they could
be smarter than us in a lot of ways to you know, keep out
of you know, the public eye and hide the way they do. But
I don't know. There's a lot of this. Seeing a dog man has
actually opened more questions than answers than what I thought. I thought when I
actually finally saw something, I would have answers, But actually it's created way
more questions than I ever could imagine. So that's my dog man encounter.
That's how it always is. Anytime you have a dog man encounter, you
always wind up with more questions and answers. That's just part of it.
Unfortunately, you said the dog man moved like nothing you'd ever seen before.
Sam. Did it look hindered in its movements in any way or was it
totally smooth? It was completely smooth. And by that I mean like most
four legged creatures when they run, you can see the shoulders roll. This
thing looked like all the motion was generated from the lower legs. I didn't
see any shoulder roll. It looked like a straight you know, maybe not
completely straight, maybe the back was angled a bit down. But it moved
so like it was effortless. But it had to be running at speeds.
I mean, I can't even imagine to cover that much area and to look
almost like a blur. Had I been, you know, two seconds earlier
or three seconds earlier, I wouldn't have caught it with the lights. I
probably would even have saw it. It was so fast, but I just
so happened to be at the right time, at the right place where my
headlights lit it up. And when it lit it up, I could see
this thing moving just effortlessly, but incre I mean incredibly fast. I mean
you could. There's no way you could outrun one of these things. There's
no way if what I saw, there's no way. If it wants you,
it's going to get you. You're right, it's good to understand that.
And to answer a question you asked just a bit ago, I think
you had that encounter because it wanted you to see it. It could very
easily, as you know, just wave it and hid until you went past
and then just crossed the road. But yeah, I think you saw that
dog mean because it wanted to make an impression on you. It definitely definitely
made an impression. It's it's caused some very chaotic and crazy things to happen.
That's that's unnerving. But but yeah, I would agree. I don't
think that we see them without them wanting us to for whatever reason. Unfortunately,
Yeah, I think you're right. Here's something that really sticks to my
cross. Sam. Your wife didn't believe you when you tried to tell her
about your encounter. Has the fact that she doesn't believe you when you told
her about that experience strained your relationship with her at all? Yeah, I
mean it definitely has. We've definitely had some challenges since I've had my encounter,
since I've had my citing. But you have to understand, she grew
up in a very religious, very very religious house where they don't talk about
this kind of stuff. They weren't allowed to watch scary movies, they weren't
allowed to you know, they didn't even celebrate Halloween. So in my mind,
when I told her, I almost think like she's she was programmed to
not be able to accept it, you know what I mean. Like I
feel like like maybe she just was conditioned in a way that when I told
her, she just completely, you know, changed the subject and went the
opposite direction, because you know, that's how she was raised. So I
don't know if it's really any fault of hers or if it's just her conditioning
through this this very you know, Christian upbringing. I don't know it.
It didn't really I mean, it doesn't really bother me, bother me,
but it has put some strain on us, because I want her to believe
me, you know, I want her to know that I saw this thing.
But at the same time, I don't know if she's capable of comprehending
or understanding or or acknowledging based on how she was raised, like accepting it.
Does that make sense? I can understand why you would feel that way
and think that, But whatever the reason is that your wife doesn't believe you,
that's immaterial to me. I just say, shame on her. Here's
the woman who took you through through all the good times and the bad.
She's supposed to stand behind you every bit as much as you're supposed to stand
by her, and sure sounds to me like you stand behind her more than
she ever is going to stand behind you. Shame on her for not believing
you. It's clear not the type of person to be a liar, so
she should just flat out accept it is fact. When you tell her that
you had such an experience. I don't care how hard it is to wrap
her mind around this idea that you saw something look like a werewolf out there.
But yeah, if you told her that that's the experience you had,
she should definitely buy into that. My girlfriend. I could tell her anything
like that, and she knows flat out I do not lie, so she's
gonna believe me and know that that's how it is, that's what happened to
him. So yeah, I mean, that's the way it should be with
anyone. If they actually love you, they should believe you. But as
you know, unfortunately it doesn't always work that way. I've got the first
question for you from the listener chat. It's from baby Girl, and her
question is did it seem like the dog man had a supernatural vibe to it?
Yeah? Absolutely, And I think I can solely base that on the
speed. Now. I don't know if that was supernatural or its natural ability,
but to me, it seems supernatural because I couldn't explain how such a
large creature could move so fast, like I couldn't even wrap my head around
it. So in my mind and immediately I thought, well, it's got
to be supernatural. But then again, I saw it impact the environment.
I saw it, you know, moving through the grass and the weeds.
So yeah, I would say that there's definitely something something not natural. I
don't know if I call it supernatural, but it was definitely not natural about
these things. A lot of eyewitnesses report sensing or seeing something about these dog
me in the encounter where it strongly points towards them definitely having some kind of
a supernatural vibe, So that would fit. This next question would be from
Aussie Tiger and their question is does Sam believe that he has chosen for all
these encounters? You know, don't I don't know if I'm chosen. I
can't say one way or the other. I know that, you know,
I do have a lot of Native American blood. My great grandmother on my
father's side was blackfoot, and my great grandmother on my mother's side was chaired
key. You know my grandmother, if you saw her, you know right
away, dark complexion, long black hair. Before she passed away, you
know, she would always have these these dreams that we always call them the
weird dreams. But I have them, my mom has them, and it's
it's basically, you know, a very strange dream that you can't explain,
but later it makes sense. Right. So, when I was in high
school, I dreamed that I saw my aunt wearing a white dress. I
was walking away from the school and I was eating cake. I thought that
was just really strange, right, you wake up me like, what is
happening? I'm a teenager, I'm having this dream. What is happening?
And then you know, two weeks later my uncle dies. Guess what my
aunt is wearing a white dress. I'm not in school. And afterwards they
had cake. So I think my grandmother had ability, maybe way stronger than
mine. Mine might be deluded. My mother still has these strange dreams.
Maybe maybe it's part of it. Maybe I'm sensitive to it. Maybe that's
why, you know, I experienced all the strange paranormal stuff when I was
little. Maybe I was a little sensitive to it. But I can't say.
I don't know. It's just it's sometimes it's it's almost a burden because
you know, I feel things from people that I don't really want to feel.
So maybe that's kind of how this was. Maybe it's uh, I
don't know. If I'm chosen, though, I think it's just more of
a burden. I can understand why you would feel that way. I mean,
sometimes it's better not to know. So yeah, that would definitely be
difficult to deal with in a lot of cases. It looks like D truth
is the next question. D wants to know. Sam, I've had several
encounters, and since then, I want camp in the woods overnight, how
about you. I definitely would not camp alone. When I was younger,
I did a lot of camping, backpacking and hiking, especially in my early
adult life. I wouldn't now, there's no way. I mean, just
the dog man, knowing it's real, the bigfoot stuff that I've experienced.
Now, I wouldn't. I just I wouldn't go alone. If I did
go, I would go prepared. Now I'm not saying I would go like
armed at the teeth. I think that I would go more humbly into the
woods. I think i'd definitely take like maybe some bear mace and maybe an
airhorn. You know. I think i'd take something to at least, you
know, maybe give me an opportunity. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't just
go nimbly bimbley into the woods and camp by myself. There's no way,
Not not anymore. When I was younger, I was adventurous and I would
do all that stuff, but not not now. I think I know too
much to be real to to go and do that. I hope someday down
the road that changes and you can actually head back out into the woods and
do a lot of these things that you used to like to do before you
have these experiences. But baby steps also time will tell you never really know
if that might not happen or not. If I was betting, I would
bet it actually does happen someday. But yeah, it's hard to say.
Well, I've got another one for you from Brianna Wood and Brianna wants to
know. How smart do you think the dog man was? Oh, I
think they're I think it was exceptionally smart. I think that I think they
all are. I think just based on other stories. You know, mine,
mine's not. My encounter is not so much of a tell tell how
smart they are. You know, mine might have just been chance or a
random siding. But from what I've heard and from other witnesses and encounters these
things, I think very much well could be well smarter than us. I
think they have to be. I mean, they've avoided you know, being
seen and being you know, caught. They have to be smarter than us
to do that. I've heard that they you know, tactically move through the
woods and escort people out of their areas. I've heard that, you know,
they have this mind speakability, which I can't speak to. But you
know, it just has to be a higher level of intelligence. So I
would say that, you know, they definitely are smart, smarter than we
are. They have to be, at least in some ways. I think
they're smarter than we are. Maybe some ways not, but yeah, like
you said, definitely, in some ways they have to be. This next
one up is from Glenn Kamada, and Glenn wants to know did this encounter
affect your daughter in any way? For example nightmares? You know that's that's
actually funny. I'm glad that you brought that up because I actually brought it
up to my daughter a couple of times and she absolutely does not remember anything
about it. Nothing. I brought it up to her, I said,
you remember we saw that big dog, you know, We're driving home from
choir practice. And she's like, what what are you talking about? And
I'm like, you know, the big dog. She's like, no,
I don't know. I don't want to talk about dad. And I'm like,
are you kidding me? You acknowledged it to me, You said big
dog. You even playing around joking, jokingly saying this to me, But
yet she has no memory of it. Which I think is incredibly odd.
I have asked her several times and she she just doesn't remember. Now,
my daughter, she's an honor roll student, she's very smart, she's she's
very you know, grown up for her age. And for her to look
at me and say she doesn't remember something that is incredibly rare. The girl
can remember stuff I can't remember. So for her to look at me and
go, I don't know what you're talking about, Dad, seems very peculiar
in a lot of ways, and I can't explain it. But I'm glad
actually somebody brought it up, because I still, to this day, do
not understand why she doesn't remember seeing this thing the way I did. I
think I've gotten the answer for that. I think for her it was just
a non event, and for non events, you don't burn those really,
even into short term memory, maybe for an hour or two, but after
that it's just out of sight, out of mind. I could be wrong
again about that, but I'm pretty sure that's why she didn't remember it.
This next question for you, Sam is from baby Girl, and she wants
to know how tall was it on all fours? So as I actually measured
at the construction sign where I saw it run pass because it run just it
ran just in front of the construction sign and it was one of those big
orange signs that the temporarily stick on the road because they just repaved the road.
And I actually grabbed my trusty cape measure out of the car. I
walked over and I measured, and it was over four feet just from what
I could recollect, it had to be four four feet and seven inches at
the shoulders on all four So to me that that's bigger than any dog or
wolf or anything I could ever attribute it to. So it had to be
massive. Yeah, must have been to be four plus feet at the shoulder,
definitely. The next one up is from Penelope, and Penelope wants to
know seem some say alien abductions are generational. Do you think your kids may
experience their own dogging and encounters for the same reason? You know, I
don't know. That's that's a big one, right, That's that's that's the
million dollar question. Is this stuff hereditary? I've often heard that it is,
and aliens and bigfoot and all this. If you believe in such a
thing, you know, I heard one theory once on a podcast that this
guy had mentioned that, you know, the reason we see these things is
because our ancestors fought killed them, so it's programmed in our DNA. We're
almost cursed, We're almost haunted by seeing these these creatures and these cryptids and
these things throughout our lives and throughout the bloodline. I don't know if that's
a real thing. It sounds more like a science fiction movie to me.
But maybe maybe maybe it is something that we're more adapt to based on our
bloodline or based on our heritage. I don't know. I can't say.
I know that in my experience, my mother and my grandmother all had these
weird, strange things happen. So I mean, maybe maybe it's you know,
but who knows. I mean, alien abductions or something completely different.
But in some way, I feel like maybe all of it's connected somehow,
whether it's spiritually or demonically or whatever it is. I can't explain it.
I really feel like maybe some of it are all all of it. It's
all connected. So maybe maybe certain people are more prone to it and it
gets passed down. You never know, there just might be some there there.
It's hard to say. She n Umanser has next question and Shannon wants
to know. Did the dog man look at him? Was there ever eye
contact? No? It it it had a mission. It was straight on
profile, never turned its head in my direction. I didn't see eye shine.
It was looking straight ahead and it was it was head and it knew
what it was doing. It was head and straight and didn't deviate anyway.
It didn't veer or look at me. It didn't. It didn't even seem
like it. It moved in a way that you know it might stop with
the car or hesitate it. It made a beeline straight across the road and
you know, from the dry creek bed over into the far high grass and
bushes. Like I said, across that three hundred plus yards or whatever it
was. It never wants looked at me and never wants to even acknowledge the
car, the headlights. It never acknowledged anything. It just it just was
on a mission. It just it just went from one side to the other,
just straight fast as you, unbelievably could believe. It doesn't seem fair,
does it. The fact that something that looks that way it can move
like they can, seems, like I said, almost unfair. This next
one up is from Joe Daniels and Joe wants to know, how would you
be coping if this channel and VIC weren't available for you to talk slash your
experience with Well, you know, I'm I'm super glad it is because I,
like I said, you don't just sit around, you know, the
lunch room table at work and talk about this stuff. You don't just you
know, talk to your friends about it or family. It's not something you
can. So I'm super thankful to have this outlet, to to be able
to tell my story because you know, you kind of you kind of you
know, hold it inside and it's just nice to get it all out.
It actually is very you know, relieving to get it out. If I
didn't have this outlet, if I didn't have this you know, opportunity to
be on VIC show, I I don't know, like I usually turn to
a lot of like my hobbies. I play guitar, I draw, you
know, I I think I would I would be more, I don't know,
I'd be more trying to channel this out in other ways, maybe writing
it down. I think that would probably be helpful to write it all out,
get it out of me, you know, so at least I know
you know here it is. I will tell you that since this encounter has
happened, I do and this is is not, you know, good to
really admit, but I drink a lot more. It just seems to help
me sleep better at night. And it's probably not healthy for me. I
know it's not. I know there's probably a lot of people going to say,
why are you doing that? But it's hard to explain. When you'd
experienced something like this. It almost numbs the mind enough to where you can
sleep, rest and being whatever you want to call it sensitive or whatever you
want to call it that I am or I might be. It helps to
just take that edge off because sometimes I just feel things in a way that
I don't think other people feel, So I don't know how I would be
coping with it if I can't get out in this method. I'm just thankful
that I can. Like I said, maybe maybe just writing it down,
maybe just getting it on paper and getting it out of me. You said
you weren't all that traumatized by the encounter, some kind of confused. I'm
hoping you'll bring clarity for me. When you drink before bedtime, is that
to numb the pain and stress and anxiety from the dreams and the other things
like that, or is it in attempt to numb the fact that you had
that dog Man encounter. I think it's more the dreams and the paranormal stuff.
I don't like the dog Man encounter doesn't really it didn't really traumatize me
per se. I think it's more of my mind wandering. I mean,
obviously, we all, you know, a lot of people have that problem
with their mind wonders, right whether it's not even related to you know,
dog Man or the paranormal. It's just work or bills or your kids or
whatever it might be. Everyone has that that that mind wandering, you know,
inability to wind down at the end of the day. But for me,
it's it's you know, I think I still have some things that I'm
dealing with from when I was little. Like I said, I went through
some pretty traumatic paranormal events when I was small that may have something to do
with it. I think sometimes it's just just to get my mind to stop,
not necessarily a traumatic event from the dog Man, but maybe just a
way to get my mind to ease a bit. And I'm not talking like
I don't just pound bottle after bottle after bottle. No, I don't do
that. It's just enough to just enough to take the edge off. And
some of that might just be normal daily stressed. It may not be related.
So I don't think it's the dog man thing. I think, you
know, some of the might be normal. Some of it might be just
me being more sensitive to things that I don't want to be sensitive too.
That's a sit. Definitely is a slippery slope. I hope you can stop
that habit. I guess time will tell on that, But yeah, I
don't like the way that sounds. This next question is from d Truth,
and D wants to know see him. How long would you say the dog
man was? And he's right, he did tell us how tall it was
in all fours, but I guess he never did tell us how long it
was. Well, it was wider than my car based on the distance,
you know, the forty something feet that it was away, I mean from
nose to what I thought was a tail. I mean it had to be
every bit of seven seven feet, like I said, fours and beings somewhere
between eight to nine feet tall, so the length of the body had to
be you know, I was driving a fairly mid size sedan, so it
was wider than the car, and I think your average car is what six
feet plus, so it had to be every bit of seven feet long from
nose to butt. Tail might have added, you know a little bit more.
That's pretty long. This one up is from Joshua Awnsbury and Josh wants
to know see him. Was it very scraggy looking or well capped, meaning
the hair, slash fur, also any noticeable scars, if any of that
you could remember, No, I didn't get. I didn't get details like
scars. Now. The hair, it did look almost not mangy like,
it wasn't missing patches of fur. But it looked my word that I use
is gnarly right, so like when you think of like American werewolf from London.
It had it had hair, but it wasn't like, you know,
you could still see skin and muscle underneath of it. You could still see
muscle definition, you could, you know, but it definitely did not look
well kept. It looked, you know, like a shaggy wild animal had
been out in the little like. It looked like what you would think.
It didn't. It didn't. It wasn't like thick thick fur. But it
wasn't then, you know, it just it looked. It looked kind of
dirty in a way. I don't want to say like dirty dirty, but
it did. It looked not like matted for like big chunks of matted fur.
But it definitely did not look well kept. It looked just I mean
that said. My only word I can use is gnarly. It just looked,
you know, scary, but not. It did not look like it
just got out of a you know, a shower with some perel. For
sure. It looked like it had been living in the wilderness. I bet
it did. That fits. This isn't a question, it's more of a
comment from Melissa Palazzi. Melissa wants to make sure that you know, please
think, please thank Sam for sharing his encounters, and I agree, like
I said, thanks again for coming on and doing this. The next question
would be from d Truth and D wants to know Sam what color were its
eyes. I didn't a look at the eyes. There was no eye shine,
there was no direct look in my direction, so all I saw was
the profile. You know, I couldn't tell I couldn't tell you what color
of the eyes was. I'm sorry, Oh, no need to apologize.
I mean, it wasn't looking at number one. It was moving so fast
and your mind was just spinning, So you're not to blame for that at
all. I've got a question for you from another eyewitness. I've spoken with
a really nice lady named Joyce Joyce Stone. She wants to know you think
seeing the dog me and cause these dreams when it was running across in front
of you, did it turn its head and look you in the eyes,
looking mine in the eyes deeply affected me? Yeah? No, no,
it definitely didn't look me in the eyes. Like like we said earlier,
I did not see its eyes. It did not look at me. It
did not acknowledge me. But the only thing I can attribute to the dreams
and the strange things that's happening at night is this. It just seems like
it's open to something inside me that hasn't been there since I was a kid.
So, you know, for me, it's all I can attribute it
to. I can't say, but it definitely didn't look at me, but
it definitely had an impact on me in ways that I don't fully understand.
Oh I'm sure it did. Yeah, that's a given there. This next
one up is from D truth and D wants to know see him. Are
you glad that you now are aware of dog men? Or do you wish
you never saw it? You know, it's I've thought about that a lot,
like you know, the same thing with like a bigfoot, right.
I always wanted to see a bigfoot, even it was just a glimpse.
I just wanted to know what was real. Never in a thousand years would
have expected this would be my siding of something like this. You know,
if you would have said dog man to me, you know, a few
years ago, I would have laughed it off and like whatever, you know,
that's that's uh, you know, movie stuff that's not real. Even
though I you know, read all the legends, I knew all the mythology
and all the various cultures and all that for this type of you know,
creature. You know, I think that seeing it has just created more curiosity
in me than what I had before. I want to know more, I
want to understand more. I want to use what knowledge I have to educate
others. But I don't. I don't. Man, that's a hard one
because I don't know if I'm better off seeing it or better off not seeing
And I think it definitely has made me go more down the rabbit hole then
I really want to If that makes sense. I think that, you know,
it's it's definitely encouraging me to open my mind even more to what else
is out there, what else exists, what else is happening. You know,
with everything that's going on in the world. We've been through a pandemic,
you know, all this stuff. You know, the aliens in Miami,
the aliens in Las Vegas, the you know, government coming out and
saying UFOs are real, all this stuff. It makes me second guess our
reality in a way that I think that maybe I am more appreciative of because
I think a lot of us choose to just sweep that under the rug.
It's undeniable. There's definitely life before you have a dog man encounter and realize
these guys are definitely out there and there is life after it. So no,
I agree. I've got another question for you from Joshua Awnsbury, and
josh wants to know was the tail sticking up or down when it moved.
I didn't get a really good look at the tale. Like I said,
it wasn't a big bushy tail. It seemed kind of scraggly. It was
in a curved like smile like shape. That was that was from the rear
down. It wasn't really super long, but it seemed like it was more
in line with the body, like if you went from the rear and you
went down to like a smile shape and then back up to where it was
almost level with the body. Again, it seemed it seemed like it had
a curve to it a bit, but again it didn't seem real hairy.
It didn't seem long from what I could make of it. Obviously, it's
moving so fast, you know, the tails is one of the last things
you're looking at me. I'm looking at the head I had the whole time,
because it was massive. The main like hair and the snout and the
ears is what I was mostly focused on. And I was able though to
catch you know, enough of the body to realize it slanted back a bit
into the two. You were just trying to take everything that's understandable. It
looks like Eric Bamberg is the next one up. He wants to know in
what way was the motion unnatural? Was it like a cat speed walking where
the legs are a blur but the body floats. That's actually a really good
way to put it. You know, like in those old cartoons where you
know the legs are moving really fast and you can't see before the car moving
really fast before they take off, the bodies just sitting still. That's kind
of what it reminded me of. The legs were almost a blur and the
body just kind of floated. That's actually a very good way of putting it.
It just it just kind of just fluently moved in a straight line.
But those legs, man, they had to be pushing so much effort and
so much speed to be moving that fast to be almost a blur. That's
that's I never thought about it that way. That's a perfect is where a
blur in the body was kind of floating. That is a good way to
frame it up. I've got another one for you from Joshua Allinsbury, and
josh wants to know where the teeth visible when its mouth was closed. No,
I never, I never got a look at the tease from the profile.
I thought maybe I did get a little bit of a white glare on
a canine a couple of times as it went across, but I can't say
if that's what I sawve you know, if it was just you know,
reflection or hair or whatever it was. I thought maybe I did on the
snout, but I can't say. Well, like I said, you're just
trying to take into the big picture. I'm impressed that you noticed as many
things as you did, so you deserve a lot of credit for that.
I'm still a little confused about something, though, Sam. When we had
that first conversation, you told me that you've always been into sasquatch, But
do you have any fascination with dogmen now now that you saw that one.
Yeah. Like I said, I listened to your show a lot, I've
read a lot. Every time I see something dog Man, I watch it
because I'm hoping that I will see something similar to what I saw. And
in most cases, no, In most cases, what I've seen doesn't match
up with what other people were saying they've seen. That's why I like some
of your witnesses, because they give some descriptions that match more closely to what
I saw. Yeah. I've always been into Bigfoot, but since I saw
dog Man, it's like I want to know more. But part of me
going out and looking for him, I just have this feeling like I always
had this feeling like, well, if you if you come looking for me,
going to find me, kind of like with Bigfoot. I've always felt
that way. If you come looking for me, careful what you wish for,
because you will find me, and then you'll have to deal with with
that, that circumstance, right that, the consequences. But now I am
definitely interested in cryptids. You know. Obviously Sasquatches is the one that's always
been in my family and I've most interested in. But since this dog Man
encounter, I've not been able to stop thinking about it. So it's like
it's I feel like I'm kind of sucked into this whirlwind of what dog Man
is. Yeah, that's how it normally goes. Have an experience with something
like this that's just absolutely not supposed to be out there, and it definitely
has a way of occupying your thoughts. So yeah, that definitely does fit.
It does well. I can't thank you enough for coming on tonight's show,
Sam and sharing this experience with this. I really appreciate it. Well,
absolutely, it's an honor vic to be here, and thank you so
much, you know, for letting me get this out, you know,
I think a lot of people can relate to when you you have something like
this and you you you keep it inside you. It's it's it's it's a
little toxic. I can see where other people with more extreme situations it can
it can cause more trauma and more more damage. So for me just to
have an outlet and to be able to get it out, I really appreciate
it. And I hope that everybody can use anything that I said to help
them in some way. Well, I'm sure it has helped people. I
don't doubt that at all. Well, like I said, thanks again so
much for your time, and please remember if you ever do want to reach
out because you need help, maybe you start to regress or whatnot. Yeah,
by all means, please let me know and I'll be there for you.
Absolutely. I appreciate that. Vik. Absolutely, you've been wonderful well
it those two ways. It's been great talking with you. Thanks again so
much for your time and have a great night. And for everyone listening,
thanks again so much for listening to the show. I really do appreciate you
doing that. And if by chance you've had a dogman encounter that you'd like
to speak with me about it, doesn't matter if you want to come on
the show or not. All you have to do is please go to Dogmanencounters
dot com, submit a report, and then I'll contact you back to schedule
a phone consultation. If you do want to be a guest on the show,
of course we can do that, but please understand that it's never a
requirement. But having said that, thanks again so much for listening and all
the help and support you give the listeners of the eyewitnesses that is. I
can't tell you how much I appreciate it. Thanks again so much, Half
a great night.