And we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on five s l A Sports.
Uh let it this hour, Vick will be along with the high Coup and
he will provide the spirituality that we desperately need. What do you look at
at? What do you look at at? Happened over there? I just
want to say, there was an injury. Okay, someone suffered an injury.
There was an injury. Everybody's okay, we need to call Jacob I
mean, win the world. Yeah, no, I think we're okay.
But there just was a minor injury in the radio booth. I did not
suffer it, but someone did and basically hobbled out. That's all I can
say. Did they go down? They were close? They they were close
to going down. Yeah, they were close. All right? Now capologists
for Bleacher NBA insider front of the show, Eric Pinkus joins us, Eric,
how are you today doing well? Thanks for having me? All right,
Eric, you did such a great job of writing this. Do the
Lakers have money? Are the Lakers cheap? Break it down? Well,
it's a common narrative, right, Like that's what people want to say.
Like if you look at the ownership of the Lakers and look at the Bus
family. This is their main thing. That is how they've earned their money.
And can they compete in terms of wealth with Stee Bomber. No,
of course not. But like hate to say, but like twenty eight other
teams, their ownership can't compete with the Sea Bomber and straight up wealth right
like the guys who are the wealthiest guys in the world. Mark Cuban gets
lapped by Bomber a bunch of times. But you know, the NBA has
a salary cap and the NBA also has a TV deal, a broadcast deal
that's about to get signed off on that's going to triple the income. So
the Lakers have the operating income. They're one of the biggest brands in the
world. They don't need to rely on the Bus can just put money,
and that's just not how the NBA is designed. So yes, there are
elements where the Lakers have a brand. They rely on their brand. And
the offer they made to Hurley then early was a good offer. It would
have made him a top five to six paid coach in the league. But
it wasn't a great offer. It wasn't the kind of offer that was like
for ad when they got AD. They gave everything they could to get AD.
They gave the Pelicans an offer that was going to happen no matter what
it happened. They want a title out of it. Whether the Lakers overpaid
or not, that was not the Lakers being cheap. That was the Lakers
going after what they wanted. And it doesn't feel like they did that here,
and it doesn't feel like they've done it. When it comes to building
out an infrastructure. I think they're a little behind. I think they have
the means. I don't think they've invested all of those means where they need
to. Yeah, I guess that was my question. Because the salary cap,
like you said, that is what it is is it's about to go
up. The players are getting the share of the money and the revenues,
but when it comes to coaches, that becomes an individual franchise decision of what
they're going to pay. Correct. So, I mean, if they wanted
to, they could have gone up. But they're making it. You're saying
that they have enough, They're generating enough revenue to pay whoever they want to
pay as much money as they as anybody else. Sure, and like the
Clippers have Ballmer their infrastructure is huge compared to most of the teams in the
NBA. They have there was a point before Michael Linger left for the Wizards
that they had two three candidates who probably could been GMS on other teams.
Of course, the late Jerry westwork for them as well, So like they
have this incredible brain trust, They have a huge staff, everything that you
could need, and yet they haven't won the title, and so like just
spending in and of itself isn't the solution. They've been paying in the two
hundred million range in payroll. The Lakers are one of the top ten teams,
one of the top five seven teams or so the last however many years
in payroll, So they have been paying on players. And if you go
back to Doctor Buss, the legendary late owner of the team, his philosophy
was really pay the players, and he didn't pay his staff as much as
maybe Jerry West wanted, and that might have contributed to Jerry West leaving when
he did. But when Doctor Buss saw that Shaq and Kobe couldn't get over
the hump, he went and paid Phil Jackson. He paid the market rate,
or he paid higher than the market rate. He made sure that Phil
Jackson was comfortable and they got it done, they won the titles, etc.
Etc. So I just think the Lakers are at that point where,
hey, either you invest in a Dan Hurley to help build out your program
post Lebron. You give him a long enough, big enough deal so that
Okay, Lebron's got two three years left. Now you have somebody who is
going to be the basketball visionary for your team. You're going to build a
team around his vision. He's going to be the face of the franchise post
Lebron until you get that next star. And they didn't give him enough.
So now look, they may pivot give someone else a great deal. Maybe
it's JJ Reddick, maybe it's Brego, Maybe they go after Jay Wright.
But it's an unknown right now. And at this point, Laker fans are
certainly concerned, concerned, and a little perplexes to what happened. Yeah,
I mean, bottom line, you nailed it. Yeah, they'll pay the
players, but the infrastructure isn't that strong, and ultimately that I think comes
back to bite you at times. I mean, Hurley could have had a
conversation like, all right, what are you gonna pay me? Well,
that's not enough. Who knows what they said they pays assistance. Do they
pay as well as the Clippers? I don't know. I don't know.
Well, I mean, the Clippers pay probably better than anybody. So again,
if you have the wealthiest owner in the league, there is no cap
as we said, on what you spend on your front office. But the
Lakes don't really have like an in depth or really an existing pro personnel department.
So when I go to games, I go to whatever, Crypto,
whatever, Staples, I call it Staples still, but they go I go
to Crypto, and you see people from all kinds of teams scouting pro personnel.
And we're not talking about scouting for like advanced scouting, where they're on
the coaching staff and they're trying to prepare for the next time they play them.
You ad people whose job it is is to just go to games all
throughout the league, So not just in LA, but in every arena.
There are people who go and scout and they're looking at pro players, and
the Lakers don't really do that. That's just not where they've invested their money.
So they could point out, hey, we just want a title.
A few years ago we don't need that. I disagree, but again,
there is no one way to do this thing, and I do think they're
a little behind in certain areas, but again their track record, does they
have a brand, They do win titles, and it's been a few years.
Boston's probably about to eclipse them, and if they want to get back
on that track, I do think it would be smart to kind of catch
up in the areas that they're behind. Is it a you think it's a
outside of Phil Jackson, who you mentioned, Is it just a mentality that
they have over there, because it is still in the family that we'll pay
the players, but we're not going to invest our money into coaching or into
infrastructure, whether it be scouting, whether it be staff, whether it be
anything that. But that's just a mentality that's been passed down through generation.
Now that denis running it, you know, I think there's elements of that.
But like they looked at Toron Lou and this is before hiring Frank Vogel,
and Lou wanted a five year deal, which is pretty much what everyone's
getting. But they didn't want to give out a five year deal. Now
you could say that's because of money, or you could say it's like they
weren't ready to make that kind of commitment. And I do feel at times
they're a little afraid of certain commitments because things they've struggled to find a coach.
Maybe he wasn't the right guy. But you look at the Suns and
they're paying Frank Vogel now for four years not to coach, right Like,
they're like, okay, we're going to hire Frank Vogel. We'll give him
five years. They didn't like what happened in the first year, they fired
him. They're going to pay him four more years. And they're fine with
that because financially, if they have to go to the owner's pocket and say
we need a little bit more, you know, put little funds into the
chest so that we can pay two three coaches at a time, and so
be it. And I don't think that's the Lakers' way. And you could
say, certainly people will tell me on Twitter that they're cheap and that's why,
and maybe that's the case. I don't know if that's if that's the
motivation, or is it just that they're picky and they do things the way
they do things, And they did get Vogel Vogel did a great job.
They want a title, and then they let him go and you went with
Darvin. But you know, the coaching job for the Lakers, they don't
have a great track record of longevity. I mean, if you last three
years with the Lakers. Shoot, the last person lasted three years with the
Lakers was Phil Jackson in his second stint. So it's not necessarily a job
you look at if you're a coach and say, oh, I want the
Lakers job at the end of Lebron's career. Now, maybe they win a
title, maybe Lebron is stays young forever. But you know, you could
see like, Okay, there's maybe not this infrastructure. Maybe they're not going
to make the same commitment I'm getting Lebron at the end. They fire coaches
left and right. You know, you can see why it's a job where
if you're Dan Hurley, I'll come and he's probably backtrack and now saying you
know whatever, whatever. But like if they offered a job enough money there,
then he's coming and his wife is coming and it is happy to be
here. And they make the move from Connecticut, LA, which is a
very different different city, different state, different part of the world, but
I think they'd adapt at the right price. I just don't think the Lakers
were willing to do that. That's fine, but who are you going to
get now? And is it going to be someone who Yeah, you didn't
get lou last time you got Mogul, you had a tie. It'll fine,
go ahead, go ahead and get somebody, get another title. But
you know, execute that, and I think that's what the fans want.
They want they want the team to win understandably. We just have to wait
and see what they choose in the next couple of weeks. Eric Pakis,
cap Biologists, Bleacher Report, NBA Insider with US. Okay, Lakers,
now what deals can they make and what kind of money do they need to
move around with players to do them? So there are two key decisions that
are coming. And what's good is what we'll have these decisions all worked out
by less than a month from now. This is all going to be figured
out around the draft, which is the twenty sixth and twenty seventh. Free
agency starts on July first, So around June thirtieth, July second at the
latest July fifth or sixth or seventh, we'll know everything. So Lebron needs
to opt in or opt out. Either way he'll be back. If he's
back at about fifty ish million dollars, and you're already paying a d a
ton of money, So that you can see that the Lakers right up the
bat are invested. They're not team like Detroit or whatever that has a zillion
dollars to spend, or Orlando. But they also have another key decision,
which is D'Angelo Russell. And Russell has almost nineteen million dollars in an option.
So I think that's really the hinge point for what happens. Either he
opts in and they either keep him and he's maybe a coach brings a different
result, or they trade him and they could trade him with some other players
you have contracts, maybe Vanderbilt, maybe Rui. I don't think they want
to move Austin Leaves. I think they're happy with Austin. They probably don't
even want to move Ruie. But maybe you know, find a few players,
Christian Wood, whatever, and find players that fit a little bit better
defensively and improve the team. Make sure they're shooting, but also defense.
But if D'Angelo leaves, or if he opts out and leaves, then they
have a little more flexibility, but it's going to be difficult to replace it.
Maybe they have thirteen million dollars to spend because they what's called the mid
level exception, the non taxpayers, So they would have about thirteen million if
D'Angelo left, So it's kind of either the Angelo opts in and they keep
him or trade him, and they really don't have much left to spend after
that, maybe five million dollars or he leaves and they have about thirteen and
you could get a good player, but it's it's there's not a lot of
great free agents. It's not like you're going to get a great player at
thirteen million dollars. Maybe do, but there's just not a lot out there
in free agency. So when does Eric, When does the new agreement happen?
Once it does happen, when does the new salary cap kick in which
you said is going to go up dramatically? When would that kick? Yeah,
it's twenty five. But also they put in something called cap smoothing,
which is basically in twenty sixteen, if you remember, we had that was
the last TV deal and things went nuts, and that's what enabled the Warriors
to sign KD. And it was never the intention of the NBA to let
teams be able to sign like that kind of star power like they want it
spread out. And so what the NBA and the MVPA, which represents the
players, they agree to a ten percent max jump year to year, so
the players still get their share. It comes to them in a different way.
So the players are still getting their money, but there's a limit on
the growth of the cap. So it is going to go up this year,
not much, about a little long to four percent, So there's a
moderate growth this year starting in July will jump up a little bit. Then
the next year the expectation is ten percent a year indefinitely. At least we
have a CBA for seven years. We're in year one, so another six
years. I guess year two would still be small, but every other year
five the next five years should be ten percent growth. So it is growth
and it'll help. But I mean from the Lakers point of view, if
we go back to that topic, the money that everyone's going to get is
going to start to climb because the tval is growing and the teams get a
share of that, a one thirtieth share. It's a little more complex than
that, but that's rudimentary, you know, the idea of it. They're
whatever they're getting now is going to triple it, or at least near triple
with the new TV deal, not this year, but be here after.
And Eric, on the TV front, what is it Amazon, ABC,
and NBC. So Turner will be out or we don't know yet. Well,
you know, I'm I'm a Turner employee and that's their own Bleacher report,
So you know, I support you know, all that kind of leadership
stuff. I really hope that. You know, there's been some talk that
that Warner Brothers Discovery is still in the mix for a portion or some rights
of first refusal type things. It's obviously about my pay grade, but you
know, I I would love for us to keep in the NBA family directly
and do our part. I certainly, you know, root for that.
But yeah, NBC. As long as the NBC bring brings back round Ball
Rock as a theme song, I mean I can't argue get that, of
course. I mean, you know, come on, I mean that's what
I grew up with, grew up with Fred of course, and Ron Baulas.
All right, Eric, we appreciate you coming on. Thanks for the
time. All right, guys, thanks for having me. All right,
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that there was only one man. Victor Brick with the daily haikup at two
and Bick at afternoon. He wants the guy who wrote the book. I'm
Fred Rogan. You know I do vic he read the book, he knows
the book. He doesn't buy the book. Rodney Pete VTB. Yeah,
yeah, he reads the book to young Oliver Kevin fish Shall come on now,
that's right. Musically, he's our book of love, love, love,
love love. Roddie Fossil shaking his groove thing with King Flavor. Yeah,
you know, I'm with Ned Colletti. When the Dodgers lose, you
go huh? That was that an interesting take? I thought it was really
interesting, very very fascinating, But obviously it's true. My qualms with the
game last night. First off, why are you pitching to Corey Seeger with
a base open? Okay? I mean you don't want Seeger to beat you?
With the Texas Rangel lineup? Pitt to Garcia, Let Garcia beat you.
Let a del Garcia beat you? What m hm? And Buella's amigo
took him very deep. But for you know, for Buellah that's okay.
I mean a lot of machismo flowing from Walker. But if you walk them,
there's got to see you hitting two eleven. Who's gonna beat you?
In that Texas range. Not so lusty lineup. It's it's Seger. So
if you got a bass open, I mean it's basic, basic hardball,
no base open. The best hitter of the opposing team comes up, you
walk them. Yeah that that You never questioned the send, say Dave Roberts,
I don't, right, So what are you doing? Well? I
am questioning Andy Pye has as well last night. I mean, head stop
Andy ignoring the greatest third base coach in the game. Do you know evil
head down goes to a stop sign. You nailed at the plate in the
final play of the game, and you Dave Roberts said afterwards, Look,
he was making he was making a play. He didn't see the stop sign.
He saw the bobble and took it on himself and saw the bobble in
center field. It's like I can score and made an aggressive play. Look,
they had to get it had to be a perfect throw to get him.
But but yeah, I thought. I also think Vic that Walker Buhler
is making his way back right, and it's June. We're gonna run away
with the division. I'm gonna let Walker Buhler have that moment. I'm gonna
let him have that moment against against their best hitter, against his buddy,
Corey Seeger, because if it goes the other way, there's nothing but confidence
in Walker Buhler's back. It doesn't he hits the home run, Walker Buler's
got still got work to do. But I let Walker Buhler have that moment
in June. Now, if this is September and they won't play, they
wouldn't play, you know, Texas in the playoffs, obviously, But if
this is September, are you trying to make a run for the division at
a critical moment like that? Yeah, I'm with you, but I'm letting
Walker Buley try to go strike him out. I think the key is it's
still June. You know, Walker is what his seventh start in after missing
a couple of years. But if you saw Walker post game, he was
so frustrated and really exasperated that he's not you know, at his peak form
yet. And I love that about Bulah. I mean, he has a
warrior attitude on the mount and you're right, that's that's why he pitched to
his you know, his good friend Siegs in that situation. He wanted to
challenge him. Unfortunately, you challenge you know, a sensational hitter like like
Siegs, and you make a mistake because Bueller did on the pitch, SIGs
is going to take it deep, and he did. But five five solid
endings for Beulah. You know, I'm happy for the you know, for
the rest of the rest of the performance. Only two words and we move
on with Buelah. And he's gonna be fine. He's gonna be a love
walker's attitude. He's fierce man. He is a fierce dude. How about
Kevin b Shield. You like his debut single off of lefty on a two
strike count, made an error at third, but a couple of nice plays
at third base, So I call it solid debut for Bgo. No told
you a critical acquisition. Critical, it's gonna help. Not necessary. Critical,
not necessary? Critical man, not necessary. Andrew Friedman, our president
Data Baseball ops. He's filling out the edges. You're trying to make the
team stronger, especially with Max still at real bleak. Well, we'll get
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Right here, am five to seven the LA sports and fellas. I
know you had Eric Pinker sign with sensational information, but let's face it,
JJ Reddick serious sit down this weekend he had. There has no leverage,
Reddick. He harbors no resentment when the Lakers were wooing and schmoozing Hurley.
So this should be an easy negotiation if Reddick gets by the first phase of
the serious sit down with Jeanie and Polenka this weekend. Given everything that's been
reported, Vic, doesn't it seem like they've talked to him twenty times already?
It does. It seems like it's been saturated with Reddick. But it
was more of a preliminary get to know me interview. This is more serious
now that you know Hurley and his wife Andrea. And Andrea apparently was really
upset that her husband was going to pull them into the West Coast. She
says, our life is so perfect. Why why, why all this crap
that seems to be the newest of the newest emotions coming from the East Coast.
That Andrea, Hurley's wife, was really upset with the whole with the
whole process of him uprooting and going to LA So she got a wish and
I think she was, really, as I always said, a very prominent
piece of this negotiation. Maybe thirty million dollars that have made her happier to
move to the West coast, thirty million more, maybe not fred But again,
Reddick is no leverage. It's going to be an easy, easy negotiation
with Reddick no leverage. What he can leverage, what he has the leverage.
He's the podcast. You gotta give me, you gotta give me.
I want the exact same thing as Hurley got. He'll get that. Then
I'm out because there'll be another job around the corner for digit. His name
is out there already. The Laker gig is still obviously great. Yeah,
still you have the tradition. Obviously the mystique has been taking a serious beating,
you know, mystique, schmustique, they're saying now. But still it's
a glorious job. But JJ is not gonna get the same deal as Hurley
and Riddick will take it. He hasn't coached, you know, amend in
the association. He'll take the gig. There's scrambling aboum JJ. I don't
take it as they give me money, give me something, the same deal
as Hurly. I don't think it's on the table. I don't believe that's
on the table. I don't need it. Then I don't need it.
There'll be another job, and you're right, there will be another job.
Yeah, a lot of people believe in the Laker job, not even a
great job at least right now, we'll leave it more pressure because they hated
Celtics on the verge of their eighteenth banner. Yeah, I mean there's the
blueprint. Can you believe it? I hate to say this, but they
are so deep. I mean it's not just you know Tatum and Brown and
Puzingis. You know, Derek White is very tough. They got Hawford,
their bench produced who was Sam Houser nine points for Sam house Less. Xavier
Tillman was large. That's Dookie Howser's son on the verge of a sweep.
Yeah, they're deep. The Celtics are very deep. But I said,
go Mavericks, go suit up Novitzky if you would ever shake it up.
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