So host, welcome for Open Minds Radio with Alejandro Roja. Open Minds Radio
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Here's your host, Alejandro Roja. It is I Alajambro and this is
open Minds Radio, your UFO news authority. Thanks for joining us. We've
got a great show, something new, cutting edge. You know. I
talked with Nancy Talbot quite a bit. She's a good buddy of mine,
the premiere scientific researcher of crop circles. Her with her BLT organization that's been
documentaring the science around crop circles, and she's got some new stuff. First
of all, she's got the first documented evidence of burning at a crop circle.
Now people have said they have seen burning every time that she has been
sent samples of a burn mark, that it actually hasn't turned out to be
burning. And she'll explain that. But in a crop circle in Holland,
they've actually had some burning. And interesting enough, that's really what we're going
to be talking a lot about, is crop circles in Holland, because they've
had a lot. England's been really slow to start. They had one decent
one. I think that they're getting so bored that they've had at least a
couple of marketing ones created, like a beer a beer glass outside of a
pub, because the pubs are usually just swamped with crappies going out there and
hanging out and drinking and having a good time. But they haven't had a
whole lot. But there's been a bunch of Holland, so this is kind
of exciting. So we'll talk about that, and then we'll talk about a
gentleman who supposedly is able to kind of scent these crop circles when they're going
to be made, and been able to take friends out and go look for
him and they find them and other weird stuff like that. So he will
also be on the show. All the way from Holland. We've got Robert
Vandenbroke on and so that's really exciting. So it's a great show, some
really really interesting stuff that you're gonna love. So stay tuned. Even if
you're a skeptic of Robert and I know there's a few of you out there,
you're gonna want to listen to the show because there is some interesting stuff.
I think you'll like it. And really i've worked with Nancy. I
know how Nancy is. She is very very careful and rigorous scientific researcher.
You know, she would not support anything unless she believed it was true and
feels that she was able to scientifically document that it is indeed. Just that,
so really exciting, Steph. I always love talking with Nancy and Robert
too. And in this interview, you know, Robert, even though he's
from Holland, he kind of and a little bit shy and reserved because we've
talked with him before. You know, he comes out and you get to
hear more of the emotion and stuff behind what he's been doing. So very
exciting and especially one of the things I like about this too is there's animals
involved. And I'm a big animal lover and this is a pro just so
you know, this is a pro animal radio show ran completely by vegetarians.
Believe it. I know the odds are against it, but that just shows
how evolved we are at Open Minds Radio other news. Where can you meet
these evolved beings the Open mind Radio producers. You can go to moufon in
July to twenty ninth to the thirty first in Irvine, California. We're going
to be out there at the Moufon Symposium. That's going to be a lot
of fun. They're going to have Story Musgrave there, an astronaut talking about
a UFO signing. I know they're going to have Joe mcmonagall, who was
one of the first Army remote viewers. In fact, he was one of
the he taught other people remote viewing once he was taught remote viewing. And
you may be aware that this was a program where they got Ingo Swan,
a psychic to teach them kind of a psychic protocol and how to look at
things that are far away, such as Russian submarines and stuff. Of course,
that's what the Armies interested in, and this was a program ran for
a period of time remote viewing. And now those people who were in that
program are out doing this privately with their own companies, so that's kind of
exciting. Jim Mars talked about this at our UFO Congress. In fact,
you can go to our website and get his DVD and it's awesome. Also,
we'll be in Roswell this summer as always. I've been there for the
last few years. This year I'm kind of kicking back. Last few years,
I've been more involved with doing kind of the organizing. Not last year.
I guess we kicked back there too. Well. We sell, We
sell magazines and T shirts and lots of our cool stuff. We're going to
have a Roswell edition of the magazine and some of the authors to two premiere
Roswell researchers Don Schmidt and Stanton Friedman wrote for our magazine, you've probably already
read it already, so you'll be able to come to Roswell and get those
two to sign it. So that's going to be a lot of fun.
And that's what we're up to this summer, besides keeping up on UFO news
to get you the latest and the greatest. And as you know, you
can go to our website to see those UFO headlines, and you can come
to our radio show and hear our great news correspondent Jason McClelland tell us all
about it. Jason's here with me today. Hello Jason, Hello Alejandro,
and greetings everyone. This is your Open Minds news brief for Monday, May
twenty third, twenty eleven. The National Geographic Channel aired two television specials over
the weekend dealing with the subjects of extraterrestrials and conspiracies. The first special,
When Aliens Attack, looked at the scenario of Earth being attacked and invaded by
hostile extraterrestrials and how humans would respond. The two hour special also explored the
issue of communicating with extraterrestrials. The show featured a variety of experts like military
personnel and scientists, including thefth Shostak, senior astronomer for the Seti Institute.
Area fifty one Declassified aired immediately following When Aliens Attack, and according to that
geo, it revealed what's really been going on inside the most secretive place on
Earth. But from the reviews of the show, it really didn't come through
with that, didn't reveal anything that wasn't already known, and kind of hyped
up a whole lot of nothing with the shows. And I already know how
humans would react if they got attacked by aliens. They would be pessed,
they would be really upset. Well, yeah, I they wouldn't like that.
Don't imagine that we'd like being attacked by anybody, really, I mean,
being attacked by killer bees. It's not fun. Yeah, being attacked
by extraterrestrials. But again, this is a big sort of I don't know,
a popular theme right now. We see it in television shows and movies,
this whole invasion of extraterrestrials. Yeah, I think they just really quick
came up with something to phil to get on the bandwagon with the extraterrestrial attack
type of thing. And not only that, the of course Area fifty one
being so big the topic right now, so they tried to jump on that,
and it just sounds like, and I've seen this before. We've all
seen this, where these documentaries they say they're going to be great and wonderful.
Well, of course, what's a marketer guy supposed to do watch the
documentary and say this isn't that great. So I'm going to tell people it's
not that great. They're always going to say it's great, and then it
turns out to be like one guy said with the New York Daily News that
I already knew everything all that stuff before I watch the show. And this
is someone who's not even really into this stuff. Yeah, that's the general
consensus. It was just a lot of hype, and I think you're right.
It was probably just the network wanting to jump on the bandwagon. They
looked at all of their other peer networks. I mean, you've got Discovery
History, all these other channelsi FI with all the show, all of their
shows on the subject or on similar subjects. Yeah, GEO says, we
need to get on that. Yeah, and if you feel different, you
know, let us know our listeners. You can go to contact at open
mindset TV and email us, or you can go to our Facebook when we
have a Facebook fan page, Open Minds Magazine. Go there and tell us
what you think if you feel differently, because obviously we didn't get to see
it. That's right, that's right. It'd be great to hear from listeners,
to hear what other people thought. But just the reviews that I read
and from the few people that I heard around here that watched the show weren't
too impressed. Yeah, and you're right. Area fifty one was extremely hot
topic last week and still is this week as a result, most likely of
the release of a new book by journalist Annie Jacobson, which features interviews with
ex employees who claimed to have worked at the secret military base in Area fifty
one. An uncensored history of America's top secret military base. Jacobson makes the
claim that the famous Roswell UFO crash of nineteen forty seven was actually a Russian
spacecraft with grotesque child size aviators developed in human experiments by Nazi doctor and war
criminal Joseph Mengele at the direction of Joseph Stalin. The theory isn't that of
Jacobson's, but rather something she was allegedly told by an anonymous source, and
that particular portion of the book, which is a very small portion of the
book, is what's grabbing all of the headlines. Yeah, every major news
source is carrying a story about this, and that's what she's been saying.
It's not a big part of the book, but yeah, in an interview
with Popular Mechanics, because I know they're very skeptical and they think, you
know, the Air Force has already told us what's happened with Ross. Well,
so I've been waiting for them to kind of come out and say,
well, this doesn't make sense. But they interviewed her and she they kind
of pinned her down to it's just this one anonymous source, and she admitted
she brought this to the other engineers that worked at Area fifty one who helped
her with her book, and she floated this idea past them. All of
these people are not anonymous, they use their names in the book, and
they all said they had never heard of that, some of them saying that
it's ridiculous, some of them saying that it's possible because we didn't know what
was going on. And in fact, we're going to have a book review
up from Michael pretty soon here. And I know he's mentioned that a lot
of top secret projects, important ones that went on at Area fifty one that
we know happened there, aren't in her book, so it's only a small
slice of what went on there, what these engineers worked on, which is
ox cart, which is kind of boring because that was just a predecessor to
SR seventy one, some of the U two stuff, some of the older
stuff, right, not the sexier stuff like the stealth or the Bird of
Prey, which is when Michael talks about this really crazy look complain that they
tested out there for a while. Yeah, Well, it's I don't know
what to make of it. You know, I'll read the book, but
it's a little frustrating that the news would latch onto a small, small story
in this in this big book, and I've seen many new sources actually give
it credibility, you know, based off this one anonymous source. They're maybe
they don't know, or they're just using not to bring up the fact that
there are many named sources who were witnesses for as well, people who were
actually involved with the recovery. I think the issue is they don't know,
and which is really unfortunate because it would just take a little bit of research.
Don Schmidt, who we mentioned earlier, he actually gave us an opinion
piece of editorial guests Edstroyal we're posting tomorrow. He's done a ton of researcher
and like you said, he's talked to named witnesses. These are retired military,
some of these are deathbed confessions. These are people an abundance of witnesses
who have given their name, who were who they say they were, and
that's a lot more credible than an unnamed witness. And also, by the
way, we do have our special Roswell issue of Open Minds magazine that's on
the shelves right now, yep. And Don Schmidt has more than one article
in there. He's got one article. But then I wrote an article on
him and his background, and then of course we have this Stanton article,
all both of which are chuck full of witnesses and evidence, and I mean,
if you can get an idea and why these people believe that what Roswell
happened, and more than that, Don Schmidt has evidence of or eyewitness testimony
to these people seeing the creatures and stuff like that. So and he makes
a good point in his article if this supposed Russian plane which they stole from
the Germans, which allegedly wasn't even flying, was full of these children that
were mutilated, which is her idea that the Germans mutilated, literally mutilated these
children and put them in there so they look like aliens. Who was flying
you know? Remote control? Yeah, well an RCUFO in nineteen forty seven
advanced technology, my friend, I guess, so the Nazis did have a
super UFO program going on. Well, they had missiles, we know that.
Oh, it is an interesting theory, so kind of interesting to see
a new take on it. Yeah, I think, you know, it's
one of those things. It's another area that comes up. The new media
has taken off with it. They're being pretty biased unfortunately not being covering all
angles. But holy cow, are they covering it. Yeah, they're covering
it. I mean they're covering it. Not just one story, but two.
I'm Huffington Posts had a story today. This is their second story.
They already wrote a story on this, right, and now they have another
one out. It's popular. Yeah, fortunately or unfortunately, I don't know.
Hope only it's bringing us hit star website. Well, we'll have to
look at that. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Scientists are aiming a radio
telescope at select planets in hope of detecting alien signals. According to space dot
Com, this new search began two weeks ago and comes just one month after
the Seti Institute was forced to suspend their operations due to budget problems. The
radio telescope is targeting eighty six planets that had been selected as world's most likely
to resemble Earth. NASA's Coupler telescope provided data that allowed scientists to make this
determination. The new search for extraterrestrial signals is led by University of California,
Berkeley astronomers and utilizes the Robert Z Bird Green Bay Telescope in West Virginia.
The largest steerable radio telescope in the world. Once the scan of all eighty
six planets is complete, the data will be made available to amateurs involved with
the SETI at Home project. As space dot Com explains, SETI at Home
harnesses the power of many interconnected home computers, using them as sort of a
supercomputer to analyze mountains of data. There are an estimated one million people who
participate in the SETI at Home project. Now, I remember a story from
more than a year ago. I believe it was actually an IT person at
a high school here, I think in Chandler, Arizona, who was caught
putting the SETI at Home software on the schools servers, on the school computers
and can So yeah, not a good idea for the IT guys. No,
probably should keep that at home. Yeah, but again we're looks like
we're back to listening to radio signals. Well that's what they do. And
yeah, I mean people have to remember what was shut down was one array,
right, so they still have access to a few different facilities like this
one here we just talked about. So yeah, they're not out by any
means, well not at all. They do a lot more than just the
one telescope array set. He's not going anywhere. Oh no, this is
an interesting story that you had on the website, Alejandro. But Salvatory Calederrone
of the Central Ufalohiko de Benevento, also known as the CUBMG in Italy,
sent us a UFO photo last week. Although the picture dates back to two
thousand and seven, CUBMG staff manager Angelo Carnante was just sent the picture by
its photographer. Carnante forwarded the picture to their image analyst, who believes it
is a genuine unknown. They have ruled out the possibility of the object being
an insect, bird, natural phenomena, or conventional aircraft, and find the
egg shaped and metallic silver color particularly interesting. An egg shaped UFO. Yeah,
like this egg, this metal egg in this guy. It is pretty
weird picture, you know. That's why. Well, it's it's great when
we have these contacts, like we had the Korean guy. He hasn't sent
us anything lately, but now we have this Italian guy works for that organization.
That is difficult for us to say, but it's fun when they send
us stuff in sightings, you know, because we don't get to see the
foreign sightings as much the American ones are easy for us to find, so
that's interesting and it's it's always fun too to hear about these organizations in other
countries to see what it is. And there are so many We hear about
these all the time, and organizations that are actually doing you know, scientific
analysis and you know, sending off photos to be analyzed and videos to be
analyzed. And these are organizations that actually have staff members and it's kind of
cool to hear. I knows we could have an Italian listening right now.
Didn't even know they could send somewhere or send their photos to someone locally,
and now they know. Always glad to help. Yeah, excellent. So
there was a great video last week. It's my favorite video from last week.
It was a flying car UFA and it was captured on video with a
time lapse camera by Brett Anthony, a meteorologist at the NBC affiliate KSHB in
Kansas City, Missouri, last Tuesday night. The video shows the full moon
in the night sky, followed by the appearance of two lights resembling car headlights
zipping through this guy. Anthony ruled out the International Space Station as possible explanation
for the lights that was visible in Kansas City at five am, and the
flying car sighting occurred at ten pm. A woman who witnessed the lights in
the sky on Tuesday night posted a comment on the KSHB website sharing her opinion
that the lights were from a medical helicopter, but no official identification has been
made. Yeah, that's such a weird video. And of course the fun
part of that is they're messing around saying maybe it was Harry Potter, right,
and it does. It looks like this car that kind of comes off
screen and it turns and then goes towards the camera and flies above kind of
over. It was a really interesting video. It was pretty cool. It
was fun. And you know, one of my pet peeves with the people
who watch videos and then want to post a comment is many people choose not
to read. They don't read descriptions, they don't read accompanying articles, so
they don't understand the details of the story of the video of the photo.
And in this case, I saw the same thing. It clearly stated it
was a time lapse photo. That's what they were using it for. It
was a weather cam and they were showing a time lapse of the full moon
moving through the sky, and so people had all their conspiracy theories about,
oh, it looks like the video has been slown down. There's if you
read the description, it says it, but the movement was fun with the
time lapse too, because it's like this, it's almost like a cartoon that
sayings, who oh yeah, zooms. So this guy then changes direction,
comes right at the camera. And I love seeing the news cast because they
were having a lot of fun with it. I mean, the meteorologists who
showed this was genuinely surprised. He didn't know what it was. And even
I think one of his coworkers said did you do that? Did you just
create that? And he's like, no, I did not manipulate that at
all. That's real. So they were all for it. They didn't know
what it was, and they encourage viewers to write in if they knew what
it was, and they really didn't get any responses. So, yeah,
that was a fun video. We do. You have the link to that
on our website and we have an article as well. You know the news
A team of scientists from Paris, France have announced that they will leave the
planet gleas of five eighty one d to be habitable after its discovery in two
thousand and seven. G Liza five eighty one D was initially thought to be
too cold to sustain life. Based on their new study, the team of
scientists think they have a winner with Gleaza five eighty one D. Gleaza five
eighty one D is a rocky planet and has a mass at least seven times
out of Earth, and it's estimated to be about twice its size. The
team's study was published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, and round and round when
we go with this habitable planet thing. You know, just at the end
of last year, we were talking about Gleza five eighty one G that they
determined was suitable for life, habitable in the habitable zone. And now they
don't even think it exists. Oh really, they don't think five eighty one
G exists. They think it was just sort of like radio noise or something.
So, yeah, there's debate whether or not that planet even exists.
And now we're back to saying that after all the news on five eighty one
G, they're not sure if it exists, right, certainly not an exact
science. Well, after all, it is twenty light years from Earth,
so it's probably pretty difficult to know for sure. Well, hopefully, I
don't know. If I'm still in your thunder, you just have to move
the story up. If I am the trees the Yeah, they can have
a system where they may be able to tell if a planet has trees or
not. I wonder if it's the same kind of thing. That's pretty exciting.
Are we going to run across that where oh it has trees. No,
the planet doesn't exists. No, it's the Sun, you know.
But it's interesting these things and how sure they are at the time when they
make these discoveries. That's when they backpedal, and you know, you can
give them an excuse of saying it's twenty light years from Earth. Yeah,
that's so far away it is. But and we have this story. Astronomers
have found ten potential planets wandering through the Milky Way galaxy with no apparent orbit.
Yeah, they just found out about this. And these aren't just little
planets moving around freely. They are reportedly as massive as Jupiter. A physicist
from the University of norre Dame, along with colleagues from Japan, New Zealand
and elsewhere, are the scientists responsible for the new discovery, and their findings
were published in the journal Nature. While the announcement of these rogue planets is
surprising, perhaps even more surprising is just how common these orbit less planets may
be. As the Huffington Post pointed out, the team of scientists speculates these
planets may be more common than the stars. So forget about knowing whether or
not a planet exists or not. It may be in the Goldilock zone.
We've got these random, humongous jupiter balls floating around with no orbit. Yeah,
just in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. It just goes to show,
which is just a frustration. I guess with some of these setting guys
or such Shastack or some of them, they're so certain all the time.
All of their statements are, oh, we're so sure about X, Y,
Z and then and it's just so unwise and it's unscientific, honestly for
them to be so certain about all of these things when they aren't certain at
all, and when history shows that the majority of times in science, when
you make a statement that this is for sure, it turns out to be
just the opposite. I think we've learned there is no absolute and we don't
know anything. Yeah, they've just got to learn. They got to take
that cue that perhaps this is the case. This indicates so far that this
is the case based on what we means versus likely. But yeah, we
don't know, Yeah, we don't know. We got to teach these guys.
Maybe we have to put together a little course, a lecture that we
go and perform at these scientific institutions called the I don't know course. Everybody
say it with me, I don't know so and that's the answered every single
question on the test. Who knows? But you know what, that's the
excite to me, that's the exciting thing about space. Yeah, I know,
unknown? That unknown as exciting. Give them all of our satellites and
everything out there, taking all the pictures we do, doing all the chests
we do, all the rovers we put down on the Moon and anywhere else,
we still don't know anything. And we've got to be comfortable with not
knowing because the more we discover, and we discover more all the time.
The more we discover we don't know, there's more to it, and there's
more we need to discover. Right, that's great. We're always going to
be looking and discovering, you know, that you're going to be that guy
who goes out on the limb and that you're absolute. You're going to be
like the joker who said we shouldn't be here right now. You'll be like
this goofball who says in the world, he still says it's gonna end on
October twenty first, so we'll make fun of him again on October twenty first.
Yeah, all right, Alejandra, that is it for the news.
Remember to check out these stories and more at Openminds dot tv, your source
for UFO related news. I'm Jason McClellan, your Open Minds News correspondent,
and you've been briefed back to you, Elle Undro. All right, thank
you Jason for briefing us all. Some of the stories that we've got lately
on the website are very exciting. Now today we have a story on cattle
mutilations in the San Luis Valley of Colorado. Of course, some of you
may know that the San Luis Vallee an area where my family's from. It's
very strange. Lots of weird stuff going on out there, and there have
been It's where cattle mutilations began. Two thousand and nine, there were a
bunch of cattle mutilations. And for those of you who read our magazine,
you'll remember in the second or third issue I had a story out about cattle
mutilations in Colorado in two thousand and nine, something like nine animals that were
discovered during that period of time. In March alone, we're about three of
these, and then in October November was the next patch where one rancher,
Manuel Sanchez, had about four animals killed within a three week period. In
fact, he was so distraught by this these were all calves that he sold
off all of his calves. But now it's happening is again. Luckily this
wasn't a calf that he found dead, but a mother of a calf that
he found mutilated on his ranch just a little while ago. And Chuck Szukowski
comes to the rescue. Of course, he's the guy who we talked about
who did the investigations on the mutilations in two thousand and nine. So he
went out there to take a look, did some write ups and reporting,
and I always keep in contact with Chuck and so got up to speed on
that, and I wrote a story and he's got a great group post Interactive
that puts together these news videos for him, and so they have a really
cool video too that we've got embedded into the story, so you'll have to
check that out. Also, one thing that you know, with all all
of this talk about Area fifty one that's being left out of these stories is
how we know about Area fifty one in the first place. And all of
you can probably answer that question. The answer is Senior Robert Lazaar, Bob
Lazar, when he came out and spoke with KLAS television investigative reporter George and
Napp in Las Vegas in eighty nine. That's how the public really knew about
Area fifty one. Before then, there were some stories here and there,
and actually KOs was on the cutting edge back in the eighties. They spoke
to an engineer who or security guy who worked there, who gave him a
little bit of information and gave him the name Area fifty one. Prior to
that, you know, people had said, but there's some secret testing facility
by Groom Lake, and that's kind of what it was known as. Inn
We got the Area fifty one name, I think in the eighties from KLAS
were the first to report, and then eighty nine the Robert Lazar story hit
just like this Area fifty one story is hitting all over the media. All
of a sudden, the whole world knew about Area fifty one. It quickly
became the most famous air Force base while at the same time being the most
secret and officially denying. The officials denied it even existed. So I think
that's an important story, of course, because we know Bob Lazarre said he
worked at Area fifty one, a special place called S four where he was
back engineering UFO technology, so extraterrestrial technology to be specific. So I wrote
a little story on that with some great maps too. In fact, one
of the maps I got from the Area fifty one book that just came out,
it was actually from the government organization with a very cool name. They're
called the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, and they release this map and Annie Jacobson
put it in her book. So, and like I said, we're going
to have ourselves more stories up in the Antie Jacobson book. Don Schmidt's official
rebuttal to her book tomorrow, and then the day after that we'll have Michael
Schrat's review of the book and some of the interesting points and more that I
made earlier he'll be talking about so that's going to be great. Otherwise,
all this stuff that we just talked about a little while ago, you can
find that and more up at our website. So check it out Openminds dot
tv and you'll find all that information there. However, now that we're done
with the news, it is time to listen to this excellent interview some really
interesting information from Nancy and Robert. So let's listen to Nancy and Robert.
Okay, so we've got every on the line. We have Nancy Tealbot crop
circle researcher extraordinaire from Bot Research, and Robert Vandenbroke from Holland. Hello,
Hello, and hello to you too. All Right, it's very exciting to
have you both on. And I know before we get into some of the
Holland where this is related to actually Holland Circle, you have found some evidence
of burning in a circle, Nancy, we have, and in just a
minute we wanted to get into that. Robert and I have a special surprise
for you and the listeners tonight, and it has to do with an American
crop circle. There have only been two possible ones reported and one of them
happens to have come from a man in Virginia. I don't know this guy.
He simply emailed me that there was a circle in Virginia, and he
sent me a photograph and he told me that it was along a very whirl
part of Virginia, a road that he drives every day, and when he
saw it, he went to photograph it, and he said he saw no
footprints going in the grass. And it was only one small circle, about
ten to twelve meters in diameter, and he said he couldn't see any footprints
in that. And so he was letting us know, and I was getting
ready to put it up on the USA Crop Circles listing. I gave you
that link I think Alejando that you can set up for people. And just
as an afterthought, I emailed a copy of it to Robert, because I
sometimes do these things. And I wasn't thinking of asking him anything about it,
just letting him know that the circles had started here in the US.
So I had no sooner done that than the phone rang and it was Robert.
And what did you tell me? Robert? Yes, I was get
the picture. And when I was seeing the picture, the first impress what
I was get. That sounds a little bit bad, but that was the
message that I was get when I was see the picture was on Middley that
it was a fake circle. And I was getting image vision in my head
very strong from a young boy with blonde hair, a little bit two in
the neck, how you call it, about halfway down his neck? Yes,
yes, yes, and a black cat on. And I was get
very strong the name Mike, and I would see that very clear, see
that he was a paper boy, that he was bringing the newspapers by the
people. And I was knowing in one second for sure that he was the
maker from the circle. And I was getting very strong the name Mike in
my head. It was so clear, so coming so quick in my head
that I was called Nancy, and I was saying, watch out, there
is this fake and I was saying what my vision was, and shef told
the man that and maybe Nancy can tell what's going on now. I will
be happy to when he told me all this. It's interesting to me because
I'm learning to pay attention to these very first instincts that Robert keeps telling me
that that's what you're supposed to listen to. And I had had this funny
feeling when I read the email that the thing was fake. I just had
a feeling, but I ignored it. I didn't pay attention. I went
ahead and wrote the whole thing up. So I wrote. I emailed back
the man who had first told me that you know that he found the circle
and had sent me the pictures. And I told him that there was this
friend of mine, a medium, a Dutch medium, Robert Vandenbroca, who
I had sent a copy of the picture to, and that Robert had given
me some information which I wondered if he could corroborate. And I then said,
you know, what Robert saw was a young teenage boy with sandy blonde
hair a black cap. He was a newspaper boy delivered the newspapers, and
Robert saw him making the circle. And then he also got the name Mike.
So I wrote this to this guy, and this is what he wrote
back to me, Dear Nancy, this is amazing information. Our Roanoke Times
newspaper is delivered early in the morning by a teenager named Mike. I spoke
with him once when I was up early one morning about my interest in UFOs
and crop circles. Well, then after I got that, I called him
and I said, could I get a little bit more information about this Mike?
And you know, he is the paper boy. He does go up
and down this street every day doing his deliveries. He is a teenager.
He wears a cap, and he has the sandy blondish hair about halfway down
his neck. According to the man who told me all of this, Now,
Robert is in Holland. The cop circle is in Virginia. Yeah,
I mean I we're waiting now. The man who reported all of this is
going to get up really early tomorrow to meet this mic when he arrives at
the door with the newspaper, and he's going to try in a very gentle
way to find out whether, in fact, this kid actually made the circle.
But with all of the other information from Robert being completely spot on,
I'll bet you that kid made that circle. That is unsure that he must
do this. Yes, but this is for skeptical people, very prooful this
information. I cannot know that I have only seen a picture from the circle
and almost get to the information. And is that that give an insights in
that there's really uh consciousness from out the real crop circle makers with me on
that moment that told the truth. I that's that's that's that that That was
a strong story and a little bit of funny story, very funny. Now.
Rather you've talked about in the past, how when you get these feelings,
or you get these senses and visions, emotions come along. Could you
kind of get the sense of why the kid was doing it to be malicious
or just for fun? Did any type of emotion come along that way?
Yes, I feel that he did. This boy have a little interest in
gfos and in crop circles. He found it sensational in a little bit chop
this sense. And he's not a bad boy. He will create some Yes,
he will make a joke with it, and he wonder if public say
something about it. Of the people flipped out when they see it, of
thinking that they come on out space there a sort of yeah, childless id
it's it's more a joke from him, Why it's he Yeah. He also
tell me Robert that he had some friends who you thought might be in on
the joke. Yes, they know from him. There are three four people
around him what I see, and they know from his joke and he hoped
that the newspaper may be paying attention to it. Of the research people come
and they believe it if they say that the circle is real, you know,
and then they have fun. Well, if he made it, it's
really going to blow in mind. But this is good. When he gets
news that I was noted on that moment, intuitive, then he must know
that there is also a real phenomenal. Yeah, there's something real is going
on here. Well that in Tennessee there's a more elaborate crop circle from the
twelfth That one also has a very uh that one looks really fake to me.
Yeah, I'm following it. It does look that way. It does.
And as I've posted on the USA Crop Circles page again, you really
need to do. If he'd got to have Robert there, you've got to
do all the science work to figure it out. But it's sure it looks
awful mechanical to me. Wow, that's incredible. This is a great story.
I can't wait to hear what happens in the morning. Me either.
And I'll let you know. Let's jump right away and get this burning evidence
out of the way, because Robert's got lots of neat things to tell about
the new circles in Holland many years. For many years we have been getting
reports from time to time from people field workers about finding burned plants in one
or another crop circles. Every single time that samples have been sent to us
for analysis, we have found that in fact the blackening was not caused by
burning. It was caused by an opportunistic fungus, the spores of which are
in the air floating around all the time, which attack any open cut or
break on the plants. Because all that moisture inside the plant, that's where
all the nutrients are that help build the seed heade, you know, develop
the seeds, and this fungus will immediately attach itself to any break in the
outside stem and then colonize it. And as they reproduce, there get to
be lots and lots of them. And with ustilego it's usually black. Sometimes
it will be red, but more often it is black. And if it's
been had some time to really colonize, it really does look like the plant
is burned. But in fact, in every single case up until now,
it has always been usedulego. This is all, by the way, a
new report that is on Robert's page on the bot website, the BLT Research
flat dot com forward slash Robert and it's one of the reports down at the
bottom. At any rate, last fall, this is August of twenty ten.
In a circle not too far from Hooven where Robert lives, a very
interesting circle occurred. That it had a very beautiful oval circle as part of
it, a bunch of other circles, and an arc a ring that was
only about about half finished. At the very end of this arc or ring
half ring, there were a number of plants that were quite blackened at the
top, and their pictures here that show everybody what we're talking about. You
knew that that crop circle was happening too, didn't you, Arbaert? Yeah,
sure, I was get a very strong sense and I was getting fission
from that place, and I was know in one second this was the first
that was coming up in my mind that I must go to to death field.
And in front of me was driving me to that field that he was
founded and that's there. And didn't you tell me? When we found the
black stalks, there were only a few of them, and these are the
seat heads. There were three or four, and then there was one stalk
that was cut at sort of a forty five year degree angle and it was
black also, yes, And I think you said that when you saw the
circle going down in your mind you saw some sort of burst of energy go
upward right at that place. Yes, yes, yes, it was.
The vision that I wasn't get was that the energy was made the circles and
that he uh lets the lest the lest energy was coming free on that point
from the burned h seaheads. Yes, so the energy left the field at
exactly that point, you think, yes, yes, yes, Well it's
a very interesting uh formation under u uh I started to say, Andreas Alejandro,
because it not only it doesn't have those seatheads, which in fact are
burned, it has this really very interesting oval shape to one of the circles.
That's a very rare shape in the cross circle things. And in fact
most of them that have this oval shape have only occurred in Holland. There
have been a few elsewhere. But we did send one of the seedheads to
Phyllis Binger, the analytical chemist, you know, and she carried out her
standard infrared spectroscopy work to identify the blackening. And in this case there's no
question it's due to carbon, you know, actual burning and not to use
the lago. Now, Robert, do you get a sense, I mean
burning isn't typical as far as I know, this is the first burning type
of thing. Or the plants have been burnt? Do you get it's the
first time where we are sure of it? Huh? Do you know why
these plants were burnt? Is it a different type of energy than usual?
Or is I have a feeling that the energy was very strong to a was
very busy when I was The energy was very busy when I was found the
circle, I was feeling very welcome presence, very positive, very busy,
very heavy, and I was also get a feeling that I was having something
to do with a strong magnetic healing process that it was neutral. Is it's
something there a healing process, he says, And he says, healing the
earth there right, Yes, exactly, yes. And it was a very
strong electromagnetic entity there with a very strong electromagnetic field. That was I was
feeling also on my head and around me, and a pressure the same when
you sitting along in a car sometimes you can feel that also a little bit
pressure. And I was also feel that there, and I was get a
feeling that it was a very strong energy that was coming free on the last
moments from the circle when he was fixed. He was looked like or he
was not exactly fixed it was, but he was. It was. Yeah,
that was the feeling that I was get And the energy was pulsating there
and coming free if the less kind of a last burst of energy before it
took off, Yes, exactly, yes, yeah. Well it's strange because
these were the few standing stocks right at the end of that arc and they
are definitely burned. Now I'm not saying that there has never been another burned
plant in a formation. I'm saying that in every case where these samples have
been sent the it was not burning, and it's conceivable that they're this burning
has occurred elsewhere, But you know, the samples are never sent to us,
and so we have no way of knowing. But it's important for people
who go to crop circles and who are interested in the whole thing to not
jump to conclusions about many things. So it's very easy to make one conclusion
when you simply don't have enough information. Better to keep your mind open,
and I think to do practice what Robert says about listening to your very first
instinct, because he says it's always the right one. I'm sorry what you
say all one hundred oh, the importance of sampling and testing, Well,
that's the way you wanted to prove it. But what I'm saying is an
awful lot of people who are interested in crop circles jump very quickly to one
conclusion or another, and then are absolutely pos it is that whatever conclusion they've
come up with is right, and often it's not right. And so if
you keep an open mind and pay attention to many details, the chances are
you're gonna learn more than if you think you know all the answers right away.
Yeah. So, And the last few weeks have been busy out there,
Robert, Robert Carey has been jumping like crazy. Yes, yes,
yes, Should we start with Easter circle, Robert, Yes, yes,
Okay, Eastern night. I got a very nice telephone call. It was
I don't know three, it was three or four o'clock in the morning.
Robert's time, and Easter is very important to it. It's a time that
really matters to Robert and to me too. Curiously, of all the holidays,
it's my favorite, and it's also his, and we were wondering if
circles would come, because often in Holland they have started right around or right
on East weekend. And apparently on Good Friday, something had preceded all of
this, and Robert knows what it is, so let him tell you what
happened on Good Friday. First. Yes, Good Friday is for me most
years and special day. For years. Now they are happening strange things then
around me. I found beautiful things that that sometimes happening, and I get
very strong and a feeling I must tell it better, I think so almost
going back a little bit in the last weeks thirsday before, yes, yes,
yes, yes, I was also a couple of days before, most
weeks before, I was thinking many times on Sint Franciscos. He wasn't a
person mysticus a very long time ago Sint Francis. Yes, yes, And
I was warning him so that the reason was that he was loved animals very
strong, and that he was talking with the animals and the animals was coming
by him and loved him, and I was, I feel so strong love
to animals, and animals are so sweet and so pure and so beautiful.
People can learn so many things from animals, and I was I feel that
love from my nature to do them while I was thinking many times out of
the blue on Saint Francis, and I was not knowing the reason exactly from
it. And on the day before Good Friday, I was sitting on my
motorbike and in one second the tears was rolling out my eyes and I was
feel so strong the presence, the energy and that sounds maybe very heavy minds,
feel very strong, the consciousness and the love energy from Jesus on that
moment, from the message that he was heavy with peace and that people must
have respect for each other. And I was feel sort of tears that many
people forget it and don't pay attention to their intuition and to their love,
and us feel so so pain, so pain that many people don't acceptate this
laugh and it's very easy to acceptate that. My dad, they have troubles
with it. And that was I was feel the pain and that was coming
from an extra extra and factor that was not for me. Mark coming out
I think another dimension. Can I interrupt the minute when you said exercise,
you mean experience? Yes, yes, from out another dimensions? Yeah?
Okay, yes, yes, yes, and I was driving to my home
and I was go to to grunt me and to to take to do easy
normal things. And and the day when the day was coming from good Friday,
I was in the afternoon going with my mother to the special fields where
I have seen the first crop circle was forming. I was see that with
light bulbs usually years ago, and that's throw me a very special place.
And I was there with my mother and my mother was also asked in her
head she does not telling me that for help for all the people on the
world, and then that are coming more insights and more love. And I
was get that in my head that she was asked yet, and I was
asking her that and she was yes, I was asked that. On that
moment, I was making pictures there, but I was coming nothing on the
pictures. And the energy was very good. And I was there and the
sun was shining and it was good. And he was going to home.
And then I was put my camera on the practice room and don't pay too
much attention to it, and don't will too hurt too hard. That was
coming something on the picture. I was mean, he's not trying to make
something come on the picture. He's just letting things happen as they will.
Yes, exactly, I don't push things. And I when uh the energy,
when the light of God, of you, of how you will call
that, uh, then that the will that there was something coming on the
picture, when the other dimensions will that that it's good, you know.
And I let the nature go their own way. And later in the evening,
I was coming on my practice room and I was watching on the camera
and there was nothing to see, and I was making on that moment shooting
pictures, and I was get in my head very strong the message that Francisco,
since Francis energy was around me, and that animals are the same.
I say that the same importance as the humans, and that they are they
living also forever in other dimensions. They have also souls, and I know
that they are the same. They have the same importance as sure. Sure,
and when you hurt an animal, they can feel that and it is
very painful. And that they have the same rights on this planet and also
on other planets. Maybe there are many eco planets in the universe, but
also on this planet they have the same rights the animal the life forms that
here are and I feel that very strong, and that there's a very important
message for people that people don't think that they are more than animals, that
that is very important that people realize that and that they know that they have
also feelings. And I was making more pictures and it was very beautiful and
you can see it also on the Easter reports on the website from Nancy onless
moments when people were watching they can see very sweet animals. And there was
of that moment when I was taking pictures. They was coming on the camera
and I was jumping in the air or was so happy, and most beautiful
animals was coming on the picture. Sort of. There was one that looks
kind of like a cat, yes, some sort of a feline creature.
There was one that looked like a little robin red breast right, yes,
yes, and then one like one I saw. But I think I saw
a picture that you sent where it looked like a or it's on the website
kind of wait wait, wait, wait, wait, we're not there yet.
Wait a second, that we're talking about Good Friday. And on Good
Friday, a man's face appeared that maybe it's Saint Francis. Who knows,
because there were no photographs back then and nobody is certain what say Francis looked
like, but a man's face appeared. Then there were a number of pictures
that a whole bunch of them. I didn't put them all in. That
looked kind of like figures of monks. Then there were some of the creatures
and one looks kind of like a cat, one is a little bird like
a robin, and one there were a whole bunch of these, but I
only put one in of a duck. Yeah, which, no, no,
no, no, no, no, we're not there yet. We're
not there. That was not on Good Friday. That was that was later
later. Oh yeah, yes, it was later, Yes, go for
it, yes, okay, I was just going to say the swan.
What is interesting, especially with that picture is the texture I mean in the
duck. Yeah, in or in the duck. It's very strange. It
almost looks like, uh, kind of the ectoplasmic ghost pictures. I mean,
it looks very interesting texture in that. And just as a sidelight here,
you should know that for a couple of weeks a duck, a local
duck in Holland, had taken up some residents in Robert's garden. He was
enjoying the duck, but it was going to make a nest and lay eggs,
and there is no place in the garden for it to take its babies
to swim, and so it has left the garden now to go and raise
its children. But at any rate, these pictures had all come and Robert
was tickled with them. Yeah, and we kind of passed over because it
is pretty important, this image of a man, and it is fairly clear,
with a mustache and a bald head, maybe some grayish hair maybe in
the background you can kind of see, but it looks like possibly a picture
of Saint Francis. Well who knows, because we don't really know what Saint
Francis looked like. But it certainly is a very clear face of a man
with a bald head, and certainly he could be Saint Francis. Anyhow,
after these pictures were taken, Okay, let me think I'm looking real quick
through the record. So yeah, that was they Okay, yes, So
then I guess it was on the Saturday night before Easter. The late that
night, this is like around midnight, just before Robert suddenly gets the feeling
that he gets this nervous kind of energy he feels when a circle is actually
forming, and he knew it got strong and strong and strong, and he
knew that it was happening. And he called this lovely neighbor of his who
is a friend of his mother's, who is also interested in the circles,
and she will drive Robert to the fields at night. Robert never goes into
the fields alone at night, because some people in Holland have said that he
was making the circles, and some of the farmers have gotten angry, and
so Robert he simply does not ever go into any field at night alone.
So he called Alan, and Ellen came and did drive him. And Robert,
who wasn't exactly sure, No, he was sure this night, he
knew where they were going. So they get in the car and off they
head towards this field in near Woodenhead. And as they got close to the
field, Robert saw what I think I understood, a white or perhaps slightly
yellow arc of a light of some kind over one of the fields. Robert,
yes, exactly, yes, I will see this exactly the field.
When I was at home, I was starting very nervous, and I was
feel very strong that I must go to that field. There was no very
quick that I must go there and I must call her a friend of me,
and she was driving me through the field. Uh, and it's true.
I'm not go lonely to to get also the proof that there is a
witness with me, that she can also explain that I not make the circles.
And we was found. We was there and it wasn't light white.
I was usual white, yeah, Aura, and can are all right?
Yes, yes, Aura also uh. And that was hanging half above the
field and I was when I was walking in the field, I was foundain
very pretty, very sweet uh beautiful uh formation in the grass and the energy
was very very sweet on this moment. It's a beautiful formation. It's one
of the most complicated ones that happened so far. And it's really very very
beautiful, all soft and fluffy in the grasses. No footprints, no boardmarks,
nothing, just this beautiful, lovely thing, which the pictures are all
in the report, which again is at the bottom of Robert's homepage on the
BLT website just BLT research dot com. Forward slash Robert with two b's rb
b e r T forward slash. You scroll down to the bottom, you'll
see the report. So he goes to the field with Ellen and he feels
the sweet energy in the circle. And he gets back in the nighttime around
three I think three thirty, and called me to tell me about it.
And while he was telling me, he told me about the pictures that had
happened on Good Friday. But by this time his father had already taken those
photos, grasp off of the chip and put them on Robert's father documents everything
on the computer and then he blanks the chip and puts it back in the
camera so it's fresh and ready to go. And Robert did not have any
of the pictures in his himself, and all he could do was tell me
about them, and I got very excited and I wanted to see them.
But his father was sound asleep at this point. So it suddenly occurred to
Robert, I think this is the first time. I think it's the first
time this ever did occur to you. I don't know, but he suddenly
said to me, wait a minute, I don't have to wait until my
father gets up. Why don't I just ask if it's possible that the pictures
will come again? And darned if they didn't right away. The monk like
figures came. This was you know that night Easter night, how the light
ball images came. The little robin came again, and the duck came again
many times, and the dearest little creature came was this one. I'm calling
the chihuahua bunny, which I don't know. I've never seen a chihuahua that
looks like this, but some people have told me now that there is a
chihuahua with great big ears like this. Yes, some of them do.
Some chihuahua's little heads and big ears like that. Super cute. Yeah,
it's so cute. They are so sweet. And when you're watching in the
ice and then your your heart is melting. It's funny too. Because I'm
gonna have a carload of chihuahuas in a little bit here. My mom went
out of ten. I gotta go pick up her four chihuahuas and take her
to my house where I already so I'm gonna have the house. Yeah to
earth. Oh yes, yes, Oh, I love them. They're super
cute. They're really funny. Well, one of the things that I thought
was most important about this particular incident is that Robert never has ever tried to
make anything happen. He only has been receiving whatever wanted to come. And
this time he was amazed when he asked that maybe, you know, if
it was possible, would they please come again? And I don't know which
one of us was the most surprised that they did come again. And I
don't think that's ever happened before, has it? Robert? No? No,
then I will exactly. That's very good. How you explain that.
I say all the time, thank you when there is something happening, and
thank you that it is happening. And I will not ask too much one
day give from from above so many things that I say only thank you.
Ma. I was Nancy is working so hard. She is a very good
friend of me. Is he working for years for yeas for me? As
you do, very strong her best, and you make beautiful reports that that
saved my name a little bit within the Netherlands. I was getting lots of
critic not correct critic and see do research and see can prove lots of things,
lots of evidence that it is real. And that's that's good for the
other dimension, that they get a chance that people believe it. And I
was thinking, okay, that does have a good reason to ask, maybe
over the wire coming back, and when it's happening, then it's then it's
fine. When it's not happening, that's okay. When I was asked and
letter three and not pushing too much or focus myself too much, and I
was feeling really easy. That was also for me a surprised it was going
on the camera and yeah, that was I was happy with it that Nancy
can get the pictures and see that, and it was coming a new image
from a very cute Yeah, are you feeling then? Also the love for
the animals again, its external kind of emotion. Yes, he was.
He was when whenever, when something like this is happening, he can that's
exactly what he's feeling. And in this case, it was this feeling about
the animals and how important that it is for humans to take into consideration to
remember that animals do have feelings, many of them have feelings very similar to
ours, and that they can suffer, and that we need to be more
conscious of this as and also just more conscious generally, you know, of
all living things. He has. The message that was getting very strong was
also and it was a very strong message. I was here that very strong
in my head that people must first learn to let every other life form on
this planet, on this very little planet, living their own way and have
respect for it. And also humans discriminate a lot. They discriminate people with
another color, with another culture. And many people will have contact with extra
terrestrial life, and they are very well know of there is life on other
planets. Sure there is life on other planets. And but they must first
try to have respect for the other life forms on this planet planet before they
coming in contact with life forms from other planets. They discriminate each other very
dead every day, and when they have contact with with with creatures from other
planets, they discriminate them. Also they look different, they have other they
have maybe also our culture. They're living in another way. And and that's
a very important message becoming closer and closer by that that it is possible to
get contact with with life forms from other planets. That's also possible maybe fe
the UFL wave, also scientific with the telescope that we have, the scientific
research the satellites, that the RI is coming maybe single and that's the risks
coming communication. And we must people must learn we we we are more modern
and modern and get more technical things that that it's coming closer to us.
And yeah, people most frustly learn on this little planet to have respect for
each other, and you know when there is coming more. And that's that's
a very important message. That's also in the world. Can we expect to
get along with or be welcoming or have any sort of positive interaction with creatures,
lifeforms, beings whatever they are from somewhere else if you can't even respect
each other, right, Yes, Yeah, that was basically the very strong
message that Robert was getting. Yeah, I love this story also because I'm
a big animal. Ever I'm a vegetarian, so I just love that the
whole h this particular incident and now more circles came in the few days after
that. I want to make a point about one because this was something else,
totally unique that has happened. The second circle, the next circle to
happen, and people can see the details about these circles on the Crop Circle
connector that is the big website in England, and if they click on World
the International Circles and then scroll down to the Netherlands, they will see all
the pictures about these next several circles that we'll have about two. We'll have
these on the YouTube video for this and okay, well, the second one
occurred just a few days later, the night of April twenty eight, twenty
ninth, and let me see, I don't even know what's oh here.
Okay again, Robert told me he had this very strong intuition that another circle
was getting ready to form somewhere near him, and he kept seeing what he
told me was a large circle with three smaller circles around it, but he
was not at all sure where it was going to be. He waited and
waited for this information to come, but finally it was too strong the feeling,
and so even though he didn't know where, he called Ellen again,
and she again came around midnight on the night of the twenty eighth to pick
him up. And he told me that the minute he sat in her car,
he saw exactly where they were to drive, and they did. They
drove to this nature preserve, which is not too far away on the edge
of Hooven, and when they got there, sure enough, there was a
formation in the field. Now, apparently Ellen chose to stay up on the
dike rather than mash the grasses. Robert went down into the field a little
bit, not very far, and felt the energy and reported to me that
he felt a tingling on his skin. He said, he said he felt
the formation was a functional one, that it was had healing energies. He
could hear the cows in the field in the next field over, they were
bellowing and making noise. He could hear dogs barking and noises which sounded like
wild pigs grunning in the woods as a big woods right there. The two
of them stayed there, It's not quite I'm not quite sure exactly how long
that half an hour or so, and then something amazing happened. Both Robert
and Ellen saw something. Tell what you saw, Robert, Yes, yes,
exactly if you were standing there and in one from the satellites circles,
in the small circles, I mean around the bigger circle. In one circle
was coming light out of ground. He was glowing. And I was see
it first, and I was telling to Ellen. She was buying me as
she was seeing also, and I was thinking maybe I will see it psychic
only she was also see it. This was really very real light that you
both saw your eyes. Yes, yes, it was was physical in this
dimension and yes, it was very strange. We will seeing it both that
the light was coming out the circle out of ground and the circle was glowing.
And I'm happy that she was also see it. That makes it easier.
And the most time a day was it. This is about twelve thirty
one o'clock in the morning by now, during the middle of the nighthood can
Yeah, so the circle, the glow is clear as a bell. You've
got to pitch black dark field. It's a nature preserved there no houses,
no lights, nothing, And the circle that was glowing was clear as a
bell, you know, in the middle of the field. And you got
a sense. This one was about healing. He's that's what he told me,
healing the earth inside. He thought. I mean, I gotta read
what each of these is different, and I write down exactly what he tells
me. He said he had the feeling that this was a functional this was
a business like formation. It had a job to do, and it was
healing the ground in this place. Yes, yes, yes, exactly so
in the round and also puts in your in the lay lines a more upduilds
enochy and consciousness, more growing up consciousness that's going more into collective minds from
the people that they grow more, and yes, that they can grow more.
And that was also also grounds very physical for moder Well, something else
you told me was that you said, during the ten minutes that you were
watching this glowing circle, you Robert, felt that you were being given a
message that many more soul groups or light beings are coming to Earth now from
interplanetary places, from other dimensions, that they are coming to help humans to
get this greater awareness, you know, in preparation for actually meeting eventually.
Yes, yes, exactly, that there is that also planets, other eco
planets, in other star system solar systems, that they coming more in levels
with each other. It's also more in contact with each other. That there
is coming more complete, complete collective consciousness. Yes, uh huh. Then
there were within within not very many days, I guess a week later now
there have been two more. And each of these, Alejandro is getting progressively
more complicated. Yeah, more apples, pretty and different circles, lattice circles
and swirls. Isn't it interesting also that although there have been several thousands of
crop circles around the world now in the last thirty years, that none of
them look exactly we arelike and that these that are in these more complex events
which are occurring around Robert now, although they are definitely much more complex than
in the past, they don't look like any other circles anywhere. Yeah,
they're very individual, They're very pretty and elaborate, and they have their own
different quality to them. Yes they do, Yes, yes, yes they
do, and then nay. The ninth, this next one appeared. Robert's
birthday was the seventh, and on the eighth he and his friends Roy and
Stan had been out celebrating, and when they got home around eleven o'clock,
shortly after Robert was dropped off, he again had this feeling, you know,
that something's going on. And God bless Ellen because she gets a lot
of calls in the middle of the night. But she came again, and
off they went to where was this field? I have to look and read
and see where. Oh this is Houven Okay, and off they went to
this one. And this was interesting because when they arrived at this field,
it was where these circles had Some circles had already appeared. These new circles
were farther away into the field and Ellen and Robert both then experienced and this
is a physical experience, this time a very strong rotating energy. In fact,
they became dizzy and even slightly nauseated. Yes, exactly, yes.
And this time again it wasn't just Robert experiencing this, it was Ellen also.
Sometimes when Ellen is with Robert, she will see some of the things
that he sees, but usually she doesn't. And this year she has been
hoping that she would actually see more things, not scary things because she doesn't
want to be scared, but more things to give her confidence, you know.
And in fact she is now, she's already she saw the blowing light
and it kept blowing. They finally were too tired and they left, and
when they left, the circle was still glowing. Yes, they left it.
Yes, yes, that's very strange. And the next time they go
and this time they've got this rotating energy. And you did say, Robert,
that you felt, you said very strong that the reason people experience such
strong physical effects when the energy is present is because it is coming from a
very big consciousness. Yes exactly, yes, very big. That's that's that's
that's that's that's it's it's the energy, very it's they are coming out the
rooms, out the space, wrom the hunique creator, very strong, very
it's coming right to the point from your soul, and it's it's a very
transformats power. It's it's it's the consciousness. This sort of consciousness is coming
by the most people when the body is dead, when you're coming in the
other dimension of life after the death. Yeah, then then it's coming more.
This sort of consciousness. Man, it shows themselves. Not many times
when people live on earth, they sleeping for a big part. And that's
man, we're living in a time that that's more open. And the words
you said in English exactly as people listening can tell Roberts English. You can
understand what he says, but sometimes a few of the words are a little
funny in English. Exactly what he said to me that night was people are
sitting now in a mystical revolution, and the phenomenals around me, the energies
around him, are working to help us all feel and hear in a totally
new way. Wow. Yes, yes, we're sitting in a mystical revolution.
I love that bit. Yeah, that's great. Now we're running out
of time, unfortunately, And there was one more circle on that twelve Yes,
there was there was another one in grasses, the great, big,
huge one with a spiral in it, and lots of little circles, and
you know, I think if people can read the details, I post them
right away on the Crop Circle Connector in the Internet National section under Netherlands.
And when there's something unusual like the glowing circle, we take samples and everything
and we'll do a write up on that for the BLT site. But we
have to wait until we've done all the work, you know. But the
rest of them will put up very quickly on the Netherlands site, so that
if more comes up this summer, which it looks like it's going to be
a busy summer, that we get them up there as quickly as we can
on the Crop Circle Connector. So far, I think your area in Holland
here has been busier than England, it has this year, and with pretty
your circles too. Yeah, they've got a close start and they were ramping
up for their tourists crop circle season, but so they start thus far.
But you've got a lot of great beautiful ones, and there's been, you
know, a really magnificent one that just come in Indonesia. I'm sure you
saw that too, and Mexico had an interesting one, so I didn't see
that. Maybe they're spreading out all around the world. Yeah, spreading that,
sharing the love there, sharing the wealth a little bit for everybody.
Thank you so much for having us out a hundred. Thank you. Was
there any part words, Robert, something you wanted to share you felt maybe
that is important? Yes, I will thank you that you you talk with
us on your radio show and that you will take the work from Nancy serious.
Am I experience serious? And I will say to people, believe what
you see, believe what you feel, and that it is very important for
people that they know that life has reasons how difficult it is, and that
we when we give each other each other the hands and we will take care
for of each other and will bring love, then we can make a better
world. And I still believe in it. And maybe it's not for us
generation, we can work and when we believe in something, than it's possible.
Robert, you said that you know kind of being prepared to make contact.
Do you feel then that the math is more people will be able to
interface with these other entities soon? Yes, yes, yes, I'm sure
when people take the first thing that's coming up in their minds many times,
and what they feel, not what they think, and what they feel takes
serious. Then they are doors opening for them and then they that change life,
and that makes life lots easier. Yes, so all we got to
do is love each other people. How hard can that be? Love each
other and love the animals. Isn't that easy and wonderful? And then we
all we won't need to go any more where for the rapture because it'll all
happen here and we'll have heaven on earth and it's just gonna be wonderful if
we let it be that way. Come on, listen to the message.
So that was a lot of fun. I really thank Robert and Nancy for
coming on the show. Really, I think this stuff is terribly interesting.
I really like this guy. Of course I always said I like everybody,
but you know, it just seems a genuine nice guy. And of course
he gets a lot of points here at Open Minds for saying nice things about
the animals. But oblt research dot com is where you go to see all
of this stuff, and the material Crop Circle Connector always has the latest crop
circles and Nancy sends the crop circles. She comes across there immediately. Also,
that's pretty much the hub for crop circles, and those are the two
places you can go. So next week, next week, we're actually taking
the time off, but we are going to have a show. What I'm
gonna do is I've got this two hour interview with Darryl Simms, the Alien
Hunter. And of course if you saw it, I can't remember what Comedy
Central show it's called, but they made fun of Daryl Simms the Alien Hunter.
But he's a really interesting guy. I did this interview like five years
ago or something like that. I kind of dug it out of my archives,
but it's not one that I've shown on that played on the show or
over the podcast yet. So since we're gonna be out of here, we're
gonna be taking the day off like everybody else. I'm pre programming list to
play on Monday, and it'll be just a two hour interview with Darryl Simms,
the Alien Hunter. He's been studying abductions for decades. In fact,
he's the one you discovered that scoop marks Floress under black Light. We'll be
talking about that, we'll talk about his personal experiences which are very interesting,
and we'll talk about his background in UH. He has training as a police
officer in the military investigative work, and he brings that alte bear on the
abduction research and he doesn't like these little gray fellows. I'll tell you,
weren't you of that right now? So if you feel similarly, you can
listen to the show and you'll love it. But maybe they just need some
love too. Thanks for listening to Open Minds Radio. Don't forget to visit
Openminds dot tv for more UFO news, and we will talk to you next
week. People, Tou tou to t p Hey