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and uh no, you know obviously one more day tomorrow and then kids come
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Like it's that time of year. Man, it's starting. Whoa David
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how are you doing? I'm doing good. I haven't I'll have to talk
to you off line about my previous weekend. It was it was an unexpected
not in a good way. Things are fixed on the car, but you
know, but didn't get an accident, but some unexpected things came up with
the car. It's never funny cars. Yeah, I'll explain more offline another
time because we are under a time crunch tonight. But yeah, all good,
you know week forst full week at school. You know, we're hitting
hitting the stride, so we're we're hanging in there. Everything's going good though,
but but Yeah, we are under a time crunch tonight because Brent has
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All right, So let us get into the news. So both of
these interesting enough, are both the kind of our main kind of discussion pieces
tonight, are both coming from the Cosmic Circus. Cosmic Circus has been around
for a couple of years. They have gotten some pretty interesting scoops lately.
So you know, if we were to put them on a tier list at
that point, I put him at a C plus t B minus Scooper.
At this point it feels about right. I don't automatically ignore them, but
I don't usually. Let's just put it this way, everything that we say
tonight from them, I have my grain assault with me. It's right over
there, and I just you know, just but it's worth talking to out
if nothing else, there's some fun ideas. There definitely are some fun ideas.
So with both or is they at least very responsible when it comes to
this, because then both their stories they do put let's start by addressing the
elephant room. You know, in the sense of these all these sources,
these their sources told them this information before the strikes, and they said,
this could change. This could be depending how the strikes work out, how
long the strikes a this can be completely changed. But as of the time
they were told this before the strikes. This is the information they're putting out
there. So the question they want to say was starting with what's next for
Scarlett? Which is she coming back? When is she coming back? So
the big elephant in the room, they say, is did she survive?
So we'll say this off and if you want to know nothing about spoilers for
the next for basically most of this episode, we'll maybe see you next week
because that's what this shows about. Yeah, that's fair, so sorry,
but we'll put that warning before we say this. So anyways, did want
to survive the events of Doctors Trains of multiverse amount? Let's they say.
The simple answer is yes, Wanda still live in the six one six universe.
Next question is where is she. Their sources have informed them that Wanda
is currently in a dormant state at the end of the Witches Road. The
Witches Road is an alternate dimension within the borders of the known A universe,
similar to that of the Marror Dimension or the Dark Dimension. According to their
source, fans can expect this particular plane of existence to be first introduced in
the upcoming Agatha Coven of Chaos series, followed by the potential special based on
the location, which would premiere following the conclusion of Coven of Chaos. This
Witches Road Special, we've been told, would be similar to World fin Night
Special presentation in terms of tone and loose connectivity to the main and See storyline.
However, just because the Witches Road will be introduced in these upcoming projects
now doesn't mean Wanda will appear in either one. Services have stated that the
Scarlet, which will not physically appear in the previous stated projects, it will
be mainly be an origin story of the mythical location featuring new cast of Witches,
and according to sources, will predate most of the events of the MCU.
Bands can expect these projects regarding Wanda would be in Coven of Chaos with
the confirmation that she is still alive via traces of her Chaos magic still being
out there. So doesn't sound like we will be getting want, you know,
want seeing Wanda and either of these projects, but definitely strong hints of
her continued existence. I like the ideas. The thing I kind of bat
an eye at the most is the thought of them doing a special presentation on
the Witch's Road without Wanda. It just right now, it's not really passing
the smell test, but I love the idea of them using the Witch's Road.
So I hope there's at least some element of truth to this. I
would love to be wrong on this one. There was a five six years
ago, maybe more, I'm not sure exactly. There was a James Robinson
Scarlett Whitch Run. Yes. I really really enjoyed that. It's on Marvel
and Limited. Highly recommended, so you should definitely check that out. It's
I don't remember the exact year, within the last five to ten years,
and that you're the one who recommended me reading it last year, and I
really thoroughly enjoy it. I liked it a lot. Yeah, it was
definitely definitely a good read, you know. I mean there I saw a
TikTok the other day that was basically someone sourcing giant freaking robots say that that
basically Scarlett, which was done and they weren't bringing her back because Marvel is
through with Elizabeth Olsen and I'm like, okay, sure, right, yeah,
I know that I give way more creatives to these these stories tonight,
sure, Jan, Sure, Jan, Yeah, we will absolutely see her
again. Yes. The next thing they covered was one Division spinoffs, So
there's also the matter of the spinoffs they say, starting with Vision Quest featuring
Paul Bettany's return as Vision. Sources have informed them that the Vision Quest storyline
would feature a loose adaptation of Tom King's The Vision comic Run, which we
have covered on this show Outstanding Outstanding Run, highly recommend it, with appearances
from Vision Synthsoid's family, Virginia, Viv and Vin. This has been rumored
for some time as well. Now in the comics, Virginia Vision's new synthesid
wife was modeled using the brainwaves of Wanda. However, it remains to be
seen whether or not this will be part of her character. There's also a
matter of Monica Rambau returning in the upcoming Marvels films slated to premiere in late
November. Well, we won't see Wanda return in this particular project. Expect
there to be a few mentions here in there. There's also rumored Billy Maximov
project in development, but that has yet to be verified by sources. And
of course there is the Scarlet which solo project that's been rumored following the premiere
of Wanda Vision with many Fantasia for any sort of idea at that point might
be the Loost adaptation of, like you said, the twenty sixteen Scarlet Which
comic book run, with the certain elements of children crusades being thrown into the
mix. I mean, this is gonna be very interesting, just because you
know, remember we later in the show, we'll talk about like the rumors
of Doctor Strange three and the supposed plot about that. Where does this fit
in? That's the thing I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying
like, I'm not saying I don't want it. I do want which solo
project, but it can't. This has to fit in before Kang Dynasty.
I realize why this doesn't work practically, but I want them to just push
back Secret Wars like three more years, four more, you just push it
back there so you have some Now. You can't do it. You can't
do that realistically, because you know, there's other there's actors and stuff you
want involved in it, and people aren't getting any younger. And some of
these people have been around, you know, like Prova presumably Hugh Jackman for
twenty years and you can't keep pushing it back at some point. But they
can't keep making the breakneck paste. They're going well also, you know,
just it doesn't work. It's too much. But these are such cool ideas.
There's such fun ideas, and I hate to be like like I was
talking with DC Outlaw the other day about Captain America and it's like, we
haven't seen Sam Wilson's Captain America and like eighteen projects or something like that,
and it's like that is it's only been a couple of years, but it's
a really long time when you look at this, just your volume of content,
that is it's a problem they have got to figure out and not using
Yes, they did go back to the Scarlet, which well, and they're
going there. You know, we're getting with multiverse madness. We're getting Monica
up in the Marvels here in a couple of months. But they got to
bring back Elizabeth Olsen. They just have to, like she got too big
not to do that. There's nothing about these rumors that state that make me
question whether she's coming back or not. It's it's a foregone conclusion in my
mind. It's just a question of when and what time. But again it,
as we said before the strikes and every thing like that, it's going
to kind of push things off if Bob Iger sticks to his plan of scaling
back content. At this point, you know, I think Scarlet Witch project
is worth more to Marvel than I mean, I hate to say it a
Billy Maximov project. Absolutely, so I mean, if we're going to cut
something at that point, yes, Scarlett which the value. Marvel knows the
value of it. And I guarantee you we're gonna see Scarlett, which again
at the very least probably in what if season two? Well you know,
well we'll talk about what I think should happen with Billy Maximov later, what
maybe I think should have happened with him. But Scarlett, which I mean
one division, was like a massive phenomenon. There were all kinds of reasons
why, but the way the way it popped off, they got to go
back to that. And I know several people have problems with doctors traitre in
the multiverse amentis, but you gotta remember it was hugely, hugely successful,
and so people liked her in that movie as well. I mean, movie
may just shy of a billion dollars, it's like nine hundred and fifty or
something like that. So they got to get her back out there. They
got to get her back out there. I agree. And but again the
thing I can agree with Bob Iger is it's I don't want the quantity of
content, I want the quality of the content. Right. So the last
thing they went into and again this is this would be very very big grain
assault in the sense of the possibility of Wanda coming back, but not necessarily
are Wanda so big spoilers possibly coming ahead for Deadpool three and future of Wanda
going into that. So then of course there's as they say that what about
eight three eight, This information that they're going ready to go into is very
fascinating, and this all information provided to them before strikes. So they're very
very cautious about how much they're even believing it, but they want to put
kind of put it out there. So corner of the stores is there's a
particular interest from Marvel to explore eight three eight further that was depicted in Multiverse
and Madness, and there's been a lot of rumors saying that the Deadpool three
movie will be exploring that as well. So the idea of eighth three eight
appearing in Deadpool overne film would play to display in the events of Duct Strange
to Multiverse Madness how that affected with the death of the Illuminati that in turn
left a massive power vacuum. So eight three eight would be now a dystopian
feature led by handful individuals related to deceased members of the Illuminati. They would
deem doctor Strange and Wanda did as an act of war against eight three and
would retally. Now how would Wanda eighth three eight fit in? They say,
According to their source, one of the individuals who takes up the power
of the becoming the leader of the Illuminati would be Sir Ian McKellen's Magneto from
Earth eight three eight. It would be established that he has a father daughter
relationship with Juanda. However, it is yet to be confirmed whether he is
a biological follower father or will take her as his own following what happened at
eight three eight, So that would be kind of very interesting we have already
and mckellan's possible return, whether it be in Secret Wars or in the possibility
and deadpoll three, that would be a fascinating, fascinating poll. I love
the idea. I love the idea. Eight three eight. I mean that
Earth got demolished by Doctor Strange and by Wanda, you know, like the
basically the events of that movie, that they just crushed their like their whole
protectorate. I think that sounds like a lot of fun. And I agree
with the criticisms that we need to get invested in some other universes before super
Wars happens. We need to to app have a more appreciation and seeing more
of what their world is going through could help lead to that. You know,
sure it already got destroyed. I'm figuratively speaking, but let's see,
we'll see where they're at now, pick up the pieces. I love the
idea. Is it too much for the Deadpool movie like to go into his
debt and depth as I might enjoy? Probably, But I'll take what I
can get. Well, especially you know, we look at the idea of
who the next to Illuminati will be the fact that okay, yeah, they
let's be honest, like they were heroes in the sense of who they were,
who they were, mister Fantastic blackballed, Captain Marvel, Professor X.
You know they have, yeah, Captain Carter. Outside of Captain Carter,
the rest of those four or five definitely have had villainous turns in their in
their stories at that point. Maybe not Captain Marvel, Monica Rambo, but
you know, a good chunk of had some kind of villainous you know,
turns in the comics in one way, shape or form. But now if
you get rid of all those heroes and it's gone completely crazy and you have
basically Magneto rise into the power, it would be pretty interesting to see a
more villainous Illuminati that still have the same ideals. If we've got to prevent
these incursions to and fix what Strange and Wanda had caused on them, that
would be really cool to see. And being a different Earth, they could
use this as an opportunity, opportunity to begin the retcon process to have Magneto
be her biological father. Yeah, drop those hints again and keep those mutants
coming, right about, keep those mutants coming. There should be a new
tagline. Absolutely, I don't. I don't know. That's the questionable,
but it would be interesting. I like it. I'm like, Okay,
Brent's gonna Brent's gonna make it a thing. He's gonna create a new hashtag,
hashtag, hashtag, keep those mutants coming. That's right, all right,
Okay, well let us head into our next door. But before that,
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and we are back, all right. Next story, Doctor Strange three.
So a lot of people, a lot of times, we've talked about this.
This might be our possible final movie before the King Dynasty, or it's
going to be very very close to what King Dynasty is going to be.
So again, same thing information told to them prior to the strikes, they
said, according to their sources, and Marvel Studios wants to adapt elements from
the Time Runs Out event for Doctor Strange and for Doctor Strange three, the
film would pick off right where we left off in Multiverse and Badness, where
Clea traveled from another dimension to seek out doctor Strange and for his aid in
fixing the incursion that occurred. From what they've been told, Strange has been
sought out by a multiversal organization called the Black Priests, and according to their
sources, Clea is a member of this organization and the Black Priests. HQ
will be in the Nothing Space of the Destroyed Universes, which exists within the
space of two dead universes caused by an incursion. It will be revealed in
the film that the Multiverse is dying. The cause of the decay is a
result of the incursions happening all over the multiverse, the most recent one being
caused by doctor Strange. The film will also elaborate on a point made in
the previous movie regarding doctor Strange in the Threat to the Multiverse. It was
made clear in the previous film that, through Christine Palmer's eight three eight research,
that Doctor's even Straange, is one of the most dangerous threats to the
multiverse. However, they have yet to specify how dangerous he is Outside of
eight three eight. The upcoming sequel will explain how Stephen is a threat to
the multiverse by establishing him as a common denominator when it comes to incursions,
aside from being the main danger of the Council of Kans who are also causing
this, but he's the precipitating factor. While it will be confirmed the main
reason for the decay the multiverse is due to the incursions caused by the Council
Cames is unknown at this time if the film will feature a King variant or
if the film will flat out can firm what the source of the decay is.
However, the sources I've told us that the film will serve as a
direct preamble to the upcoming King Dynasty Avengers film. So Time Runs Out was
in the comics what was leading up to Secret Wars Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars.
This is kind of his big, big, kind of finale of it at
that point. And the Black Priests are from the comics. It was rather
interesting in the comics, if I remember correctly, like they could form,
like each one of them had a word and then they could form whatever their
sentences. They would create something. But if one of them died and was
taken out, they could no longer use that word, and so they would
have to get creative in how they created these other spells. So that would
be kind of an interesting thing that they tried to depict that on screen.
It would be interesting. I could see that being really cool. I could
also see that being a little hard to follow. But overall, this rumor,
i mean, story checks out. Right. We know we're going to
Secret Wars. This was the last big comic before Supert Wars. We know
they've drawn from Jonathan Hickman in the past. They're seemingly drawing from him again
and a while back now at this point, there were all kinds of rumors
that they were fast tracking and Doctor Stringe story trying to get it into before
Secret Wars. Like all of this does check out like this, this one
feels pretty credible to me. Yeah, and it would be you know you
again, it's one of those you know, criticize it all you want,
the fact of saying, oh, you have to watch Captain Marvel in order
to understand, like, you know, lead up to endgame at that point.
It ended up paying off as much as we thought it was going to.
But still, I'm not poo pooing the movie. I'm just saying like
this sounds like a true lead up, like you need to see this before
you see Kid. It does. It does, And I'm sure they'll may
that make that known in the pr But that is for all the people that
have complained about that. That has also always been in strength those connections and
the things building upon each other of the Marvel Cinematic universe. So and it's
been something that some people have been kind of complaining. I think I think
they're not giving credit where it's due for some of the connections we have had
in Phase four and five. But this would certainly bring a lot of that
back to the forefront of what those people are missing, and especially you know,
you know Strange is being a character that he is saying that, you
know, he's the most dangerous man in the multiverse at that point. You
know, there are not many versions of Strange that have been positive. Like
you know we've seen in What If, We've seen in eight three eight.
You know, he he's like, you know, we haven't had to read
Richards, but we always talk about read Richards always has kind of an evil
side to him, and when you look at the Council of Reads, the
read of six one six is probably the more hero version than all the other
reads were. Yeah, I would agree with that. The Maker, the
version of three that becomes the Maker. I really do enjoy that twist.
I will tell you right now. In a couple of months, when you
get to start reading Ultimate Invasion, Yeah, that's that's that's that's going to
be interesting. It's fun. I'm looking forward to it. I'm the Maker
popped up in Venom and Donny Kay's Venom running like I'm here for it.
I haven't seen them since, so I am. I know, I know
he's coming back. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, So no more
spoilers at that point. All right, So our last story we're gonna call
this, do we believe it or not? From these quick hits of the
Marvel rumor mill that are from Scoopers. So we've got two Scoopers we're looking
at right now, Daniel RpK and can we get toast kind of breaking down
some somewhat related rumors. So from Daniel RpK. So, prior to the
SAG after Strike, Hugh Jackman and Kevin Feigley reportedly had conversations about Wolverine having
a big and use these words big role in Avenger's Secret Wars. All right,
so we know he's in Deadpool three. We know Deadpool three is going
to be a multiversal kind of road trip. At that point, we don't
know what version of Wolverine we're getting. I don't. I think it's a
version of Wolverine that we probably haven't seen yet, necessarily because they've been very
emphasizing that Logan has still happened. I don't think this is this me personally.
I don't think this is this a Wolverine we have personally met. Yet.
We also know that in the past, Hugh Jackman has talked about wanting
to do stuff with the Avengers. Now I'm going way back to like the
twenty twelve to twenty fifteen time Greens, but he has talked about one in
a crossover with the Avengers. We don't know what he's going to get to
do with that. In Deadpool three. This would be his opportunity to play
with the Marvel Studios proper characters. You said, do we believe it or
not? Yeah, I'm gonna say, oh, it's almost like factor fiction,
I guess, But yes, I do believe this. I think there's
some real merit to this one. No, I agree with you on this.
And if we're saying, like if the other rumors we've been talking about
for a while now from Kevin Figi saying he wants to say a proper goodbye
to all the Fox everything like as much as he can, calling all in
the favors. At this point, Ben aff like the group the cast from
Fantastic four, the X Men movies, the proper not unfortunately rumors are not
supporting the first class ones, but the original X Men cast at that point,
get as many of them together, not for just glorified cameos necessarily,
but something to give them a proper sendoff before Secret Wars resets the entire MCU.
It's showing them respect and showing them a lot more respect than many fans
myself included off him have in the past. So I can certainly appreciate that.
I've always enjoyed it when DC is done those kind of things. I've
had those sendoffs like John Wisley Ship playing Jake Eric for example on the last
TV show. I love it when they do that kind of stuff. So
I'm absolutely here from Marvel to do some of that, which the X one.
All right, so there's another one from Daniel RpK. But we're going
to go to can we get tos? Who has another one tied to this?
Scooperter can we get to says before the strikes. Kevin Figy also reached
out to Andrew Garfield about having his Spider Man appear in Secret Wars. That
was later confirmed by Alex Alex p from My Cosmic Circus, saying, will
this is true? I hope that we at least get more of an update
on him and Toby in another project before they come back for Secret Wars.
So Andrew Garfield this conversation didn't say big role, but said a return in
Secret Wars at the very least. Yeah. Absolutely. I feel like after
the massive success of Spider Man No Way Home, that they'd be absolutely crazy
to do a big, huge multiversal crossover and not at least try to get
those guys back, both of them, both McGuire and Garfield back for you
know, at least one or a cameo of nothing else. And yes,
I don't get me wrong, though, I want to see him before that.
I absolutely want to say I'm greedy, I'm a Spiderman fan. I'm
greedy. I can never get enough Spider Man movies. I would I would
love another Andrew Garfield Spider Man movie between now and then. Absolutely, Yeah,
no, I more. You know, Andrew Garfield got so much much
like clamoring for Oh, I want to see more of him. Like I
said it during our review that Andrew Garfield being in No Way Home show,
I like, I really enjoyed his portrayal in the amazing Spider Man movies.
But I use the analogy of this is what happens when the quarterback has a
good coach, he had even better work to to go with. And then
not knocking the writers or anything like that, it was good, but like
so much more we gathered from the two films. We got that the respect
and everything his the the idea of how much gwent still the death of gent
still affected him. Like Andrew Garfields does so much of a bigger actor and
has grown as an actor. We can even say like the time that is
he's grown as an actor really brought even more gravitas to that part. Yeah,
we want to see at least one more time Andrew, Toby and Tom
on screen together, one more time Yeah, it's Andrew Garfield. He needs
to fight an aliens. An alien, that's right. The amazing Spider Man
movies. I love the first one. The second one I was much more
down on. I enjoy it. I like the movie, and am I
going to tell you it's like my favorite. Absolutely not. There are real
problems I have with that movie. There's also real that would be morevious.
There's also real bright spots that I think are in that movie, and the
problems I do have with it, none of them are at Andrew Garfield's feet.
And he is a fantastic actor. I might argue that while Tom Holland
is still my overall favorite Spider Man, Andrew Garfield I think is probably the
best actor among the three live action Spider Man is in the movies we've had
in the date. Frankly, again, I'm greedy. Give give me some
more Garfields. They give me a Toby movie. Also, you don't do
it all. If they want, like to bring it all back, I'd
much rather they did that than do this craven nonsense that we're getting. But
if nothing else, I would love to see them again. If we don't,
I'm glad if it doesn't work out for whatever reason, I'm glad that
No Way Home was this amazing beauty will send off for these characters to let
us revisit an Old Friend with McGuire and let the Andrew Garfield version at least
get a little bit of closure that he never got from his original run.
Again, I'm greedy, so I absolutely want Mark Yep, so we go
another believe it or not? And so all right, last one, this
is back to Daniel RpK. Here we go again, fantastic four. Adam
Driver will be meeting with Marvel Studios once the sag after and of course AJ
strikes are over. They'll let him read Josh Friedman's new script for the film
and offer him the role of Read Richard once again. Man, this this
rumor will not die. Absolutely, my goodness. Just when you think,
like just when you think the whole Adam Driver thing is over, they pull
you back in. He's they just they really, if this is true,
they really really want him as as Read Richards. Well, let me be
clear, I like Adam Driver in Star Wars movies. That's the only movies
I know him from. I haven't seen him in anything else. But at
this point, if he is formally announced as taking the part. I'm not
going to be cheering because he got the partment, gonna be cheering because they
finally just announced who it is. I'm just I'm so over these rumors at
this point. I just want to know who it is. I'm ready to
support him. Don't get me wrong, I will be. I will be
genuinely happy if it's Adam Driver. But if it's not, great, fine,
just give me move on so I can either say, oh, I
like him, or give me the opportunity to go check something out from whoever
is playing him so I can get to know our new reed Richards. I'm
just yes, let's move on. Yes. So at this point, I'm
not I'm not ready to believe it at all, just because it's just it's
get to the point of it's gone to the level of when people want to
debate whether Superman should wear trunks or not. I don't care anymore. I
just don't care. I care, but I don't need it the debate.
Just show me a costume and let's go. Yes, exactly, all right,
So that is all the news we got for this week. Fun fun
rumors to discuss. At that point, you know again, I didn't want
to or some of these little quick hits. That's why I just created a
little mini segment for us. So there we go. All right, So
let us head into listener feedback and Amari Daniels saying they'll offer Miles tell tell
her the role again. Is he gonna rock that stash that he had in
a Top Gun. I'll tell you what I did enjoy Miles Teller when he
was in the miniseries the offer on Paramount Plus I was an outstanding I mean,
I've heard that was good. I've heard, but I didn't see it.
But he was excellent in Top Gun Mavericks, he was he was.
All right, let's get into the listener feedback while I pull up factor fictions
from last week. All right, DC Outlaw. With the excitement surrounding Low
Key season two already seemingly higher than some other recent shows, do you think
more of the shows could continue on and get second seasons and put the new
upcoming shows on pause? Also, which other shows getting a season two announcement
would make you the most excited and which supporting cast would you like to see
more of? I want more Hawkeye and Miss Marvel. Personally, I just
want to say that the news that Lokey Season two is seemingly higher than is
the hype is seemingly higher. It absolutely is quantifiably higher, Like the trailer
views are higher than any of the other Disney Plus shows, including Lokey season
one. Yes, but which season? Which shows do you think would make
for a good season two? You know obviously would have to retitle it,
but I could always use into their falcon of the Winter Soldier well, Captain
America in the Winter, Yeah, I will. I will never turn that
down, you know how much I like Captain America cast it. But I
love the ideas of Hawkeye and Miss Marvel. Realistically, I don't even know
Jeremy Renner would have that in him anymore. But I'd be perfectly happy for
a Kate Bishop Hawkeye show as well. Don't get me wrong, I'd love
to see Jeremy Renner back. I want Kate Bishop in Elena show. Kate
Bishop in Elena one hundred percent could not possibly agree with that anymore at all.
I do think Miss Marvel is a show that absolutely lends itself to another
season as well, Honestly, Like I really maybe other than Secret Invasion,
and I'd have to get on board, like I'd need some real work if
you get on board with that. I can't really think of any of them
that i'd be like upset about getting another season. But yeah, like Miss
Marvel absolutely lends itself to a bore Falcon and Winter Soldier captain American Winter Soldier.
Yes, I'll vote for both of those. Yeah, I'm with you
on this, Marvel. Like I said, I'm definitely a cheerleader for that
show. I understand. I'm not saying I didn't have its problems and things.
I was like, I probably would have done that, but I think
there's so much genuine heart for that. I really did like hockey, but
I'm more of the you know, let Jeremy Renter go off and let Kate
pitch up officially take over the mantel at that. Sure, let the man
heal too. At this point, still a DC out law. If you
were in charge of pitching a movie culminating Phase four like an Avengers movie,
but doesn't have to be The Avengers using Phase four characters and plots, what's
the movie? Who's the villain? You have an actual one? I went
funny on this one, so I do. I'm going Young Avengers with this,
Obviously there'd have to be some tweaks. You can't do it exactly like
the comics, but when has that ever been a problem before? I'm going
Young Avengers, so many of them were introduced. I would include Miss Marvel
in this, absolutely include Miss Marvel in this. I would include Billy and
Tommy. Yes they're younger, but that's okay. I would find a way
to have included them as well. And I would probably center the movie around
here's my captain, March Elevegan of the Patriot getting his power, Eli getting
his powers and or you know, pretending to get his powers if you've read
the book, true and going from there on and basically bringing the team together.
So ultimately, that's that's who I would want. Who who do I
want the villain to be? Honestly, I would stick with one of the
villains of the one of the original Avenger Young Avengers arcs, and I'd have
it be King, you know, bring in Now there's a twist on this
King, but bring in King to it, and it would just it fits
with what their long term plans are. Yeah, that was my first kind
of because that was around the time, you know when Young Avengers, Avengers
Disassemble and things like that. That's when I was getting back into comics.
So that was it had been a long term since I've seen King the Conquerors.
That was my reintroduction to King was three. And that's a heck.
If you seriously, if you haven't read Young Avengers, you should read it
and then look up The Avengers Childen's Crusade. It's basically a sequel. Ye
could not. They're so good, they absolutely should. I really hope they
do adapt elements of these stories. Yeah, it would be great. So
it has been a very busy week in DCLO. When I saw your question,
I texted Brent and said, I I don't have enough of the brain
power to really give this. And when you give this the proper do at
that point because I want to do right by it. And then when you
said, oh, you've got a great idea, I said, all right,
I'm going to take the cheap way out. Unfortunately, just because my
creativity is at a low right now, I went to chat GBT and took
an idea from what our brethren at the geek Verse does occasionally, and they,
like you know, chat GBT decide so I plugged in your your question
to chat GBT and this is what it came up with. The movie will
be entitled Avengers Nexus Convergence. After the events of Phase four, the world
is still reeling from the aftermath of the Multiversial chaos caused by the Variants Nexus
events and the unveiling of the existence of the Multiverse. The Avengers, now
led by wait for it, a reformed low Key, realize that the MultiVersus
stability is under threat from the powerful cosmic entity known as the Conflux and embodiment
of the Multivers's order. The Conflux believes that the existence of the infinite realities
is a threat to the very fabric of reality itself and seeks to purge the
Multiverse of variance. That is the synopsis they have since then, go ahead,
I'm in. I'm in. It sounds fun. It sounds convoluted,
sure, but sounds fun. We have they broke it down to six acts,
so we got a little time. I think I can go this quick,
Brant, all right, go ahead, all right. Act one,
Assembling the Multiversal Avengers. The movie begins with the Avengers scattered across the different
realities, grappling with the consequences of their Phase four adventures. Loki, who
has embraced his role as a guardian of the multiverse, embarks on a journey
to recruit a diverse team of Avengers from across the dimensions. This team includes
Doctor Strange, Wanda, Maximis, Hung Chi, Spider Man Miles Morales,
Spider Man Captain Carter, and a reformed Sylvie. They discover that each member
has encountered their reality's version of the Conflicts, and a narrowly escaped its judgment.
What do you think about that? Avengers Crew? I mean, Sylvie
through me was not expecting that one. But all right, all right,
I did all right. Act two the multiversal threat unveiled. As the team
comes together, they piece together the Conflicts's plan to create a nexus event so
catastrophic that it will collapse all the realities into one, erasing the variants and
restoring the order. It seeks to do this, the Conflicts manipulates several powerful
villains from different dimensions, including alternate Reality Kang Variant, who desires ultimate control.
The Avengers must confront these villains cross the multiverse, leading to an epic
battle. Each distinct reality leads us to Act three, battles across reality.
The Avengers engage in the intense battles against the manipulated villains, each confrontation showcasing
the strength of the unique powers of the team members. These battles also give
the characters moments of self discovery and growth, solidifying their commitment to protecting the
multiverse. The team learns the Conflict's plan involves merging the distinct realities by manipulating
the convergence points, creating the Nexus event so powerful that it will just obliterate
the multiverse. So it's Secret Wars at this point, Yeah, let's see
confronting the Conflux. As the Avengers finally locate the Conflicts domain, the surreal
plane existing outside of the time and space, and confront its immense power,
the Conflicts unveils its motivation, a deep seated fear of the chaos that the
multiverse represents, drawing parallels to its own existence as a cosmic entity embodies order.
The Avengers argue that diversity in individuality are strengths, not weaknesses, in
the racing of variants would only lead to stagnation. Act five, the Nexus
Showdown, a climactic battle unfolds the Avengers face the Conflicts and its manipulated allies.
In the epic Struggle, the team creates the create employees innovative tactics,
combining their powers and using the knowledge of the multiverse dynamics to outwit the Conflicts
and italies. Loki's cunning cunning, Doctor Strange's master of magic, Wanda's reality
manipulation, Juncti's martial prowess, spider Man's a jilly Captain, Carter's leadership,
and Sylvie's enchantment play a crucial role. Imagine that, Brent, They play
a crucial role, you know, right, acts restoring the balance. In
a final confrontation, Loki and Sylvie managed to connect with the conflicts on a
personal level, sharing their experiences as variants and helping the entity understand the value
of individuality and the potential for cooperation Among the realities. Touched by their words,
the Conflicts chooses to embrace new perspective. And I'm sorry, no,
no, absolutely not no, no, that was just a little bit there,
a little that, just a lot that started losing me when they were
trying to convince something. You can it's a good thing. It's still it's
still overall, you know, it's schatchy Bt. You get what you get,
but I think it's still fun. I think that's that's ultimately what matters,
all right. Epilogue, A multiversal future with the Conflicts is change of
Heart. It uses power to stabilize multiverse to prevent future nexus event. The
Avengers returned to their respective realities, each caring lessons they learned a newfound camaraderie.
The multiverse continues to thrive, with the Avengers now acting as the guardians
who watch over its well being. As a part Ways, low Key reflects
on the journey, acknowledging that the very existence of the multiverse is a testament
to the beauty of endless possibilities. Post credit scene setting up Phase five.
In a cryptic scene, a shadowy figure is always a shadowy figure, Brent,
every time it is seen observing the Avenger's actions through a portal, intrigued
by their success in altering the Conflicts's perspective. As the figure steps into the
light, it is revealed to be a reality bending mutant, hinting that the
X Men's introduction and the challenges that lie ahead. In Phase five, you
think you're the only one parroting of Iron Man one all right, you know
you answer the question. I'm getting full marks on that. I nswered the
question does not with my own idea, Hey, I mean I don't just
said if you were in charge, what would you do? This is what
you would do? I'd think, No, that's not what I would do.
Is what chat GPT would do. Well, you asked chat GPTs.
I respect it. I respect it? All right? A couple more questions.
World's biggest key in the Chat and the Infinity Saga? Which of the
villains would you want to bring back from Ironmonger all the way to Theano space?
Clear? There any Infinity Saga villains you'd like to see come back for
another round? I will tell you Ultron is the first one that comes to
la for me. I'll I would agree with So easy to bring them back,
you know. So it's such an easy way to do. It wouldn't
be hard at all and such a great character. Yeah, I would have
to agree with Ultron. I guess we'll give an honorable mention to the Vulture.
But no, Morvidus doesn't count. All right, Amari Daniels. After
their mini appearances in the Netflix shows, where would you like to see the
Hand Show? Up in the MCU SHUNCHI. You know we are, We're
so close. We might as well just merge your ideas because I would like
to see the hand take on the ten Rings. Yeah, you can call
it low hanging fruit, but it still would be cool. It would be
awesome. But I I thought of shung Chi, and I can think of
several others. But I'm like, you know what, joh Ing and the
Ten Rings Allegedly they're doing something there. Whins are gonna come out. I
don't know twenty thirty two at this point, but something with them and the
hand I think would be a lot of fun. Yeah, I would I
would agree that it would be a lot of fun. So all right,
well, thank you guys for sending in the questions. That was That was
a lot of fun to do. So let us get into fact or fiction.
All right, Okay, here we go number one. With mister Sinister
confirmed to be returning in in X Men ninety seven, we will see him
create the clone of Jean Gray Madelon prior at sixty seven per cents at fact,
thirty three per cents at fiction. Number two. It will be revealed
at the end of Looky season two that there is not just one Sacred Timeline,
but multiple sacred timeline sixty nine per cents at fact, thirty one percent
of fiction, and number three Mephisto will be seen in a project before Agatha
Coven of Chaos fifty five percent sat fact forty five per cents of fiction.
Three for three this week with facts. Oh there they were good ones,
I think, I mean, especially that Madelin Praior. You gotta appreciate that,
all right. First up this week for me, this is one that
I've taught. I don't remember if it was on the show or not,
but I talked about with you anyway. The first trailer for Echo will show
Kingpin and Matt murdochward Devil the one more time. The first trailer for Echo
will show Kingpin and Matt Murdoch slash Staretol. Then they will not be hiding
their involvement. I would say king I'd say at least Kingpin. Okay,
well, yeah, I'm saying both. So I'm going fact on it.
I think we're going to see him both. How much, I don't know.
I'm not expecting a ton and frankly there shouldn't be. But I'm facts
on it. Yeah, I'm a half fact just because I think it's just
Kingpin. We I know Charlie Cox is in it, but I don't know
what. I don't what. I worry about them both being in it is
taking away the focus on establishing Echo in her first episode, so I could
see I could see Matt coming in episode two. But King I didn't say
episode two. I just said the first trailer, the first t first trailer.
Oh, that's why it's a trailer. Oh, okay, Yeah,
I don't think Matt will be an episode Okay, okay, I don't think
Matt's until I totally misheard that one. First trailer, first trailer. Yeah,
I think that they they're gonna advertise those Yeah, they need they need
to. So, I mean they did it in She Hulk. I think
they're gonna do it in this. Alright, Great, we're both facts on
that one. Next, Yelena will appear in Daredevil. I'm a fact because
I think they're gonna lean into that Daredevil black widow relationship from the comics.
Obviously that was Natasha and Yelena, but they can maybe lean into a little
bit of them. It doesn't have to go full on, you know,
romantic but they I could definitely see them having a little flirty time with each
other. And you know, if nothing else, would be fun to uh
to watch the two of them both team up and take each other on.
I mean, I heart really wants it. I'm a fiction on it.
I think they're We've already seen her pop up in Hawkeyes. It wouldn't be
unprecedented for her to make an appearance back in New York. The motivation,
I'm still a little I'm not sure yet, So I'm a forty nine percent
fiction, all right, all right, I'm forty nine percent very specific,
all right. Last one, it's a little more business, see all right.
By the end of twenty twenty four, at least one more Disney plus
Marvel show will air on broadcast television like Miss Marvel did. In fact,
I could I could see if Captain it, depending how long the strike goes
on, depending on how how far along of edits they need to do.
For Captain America, Brave New World, they could definitely put back into play
Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I'm a fact and I think that one makes
a lot of sense. Definitely put that one out there and get more eyes
on it. I just really want to know what happens residual wise, did
the actors that the cast crew did they? I don't know. I'm asking
that question too, but I am a fact I think we will see more.
Yeah, so all right, well I will put those out there as
always Sunday afternoon. So let your voices be heard, and let us wrap
up as Brent's given me the good word thing that we can. We do
have time for comp book. I think we can pit it in this week.
I think we can too, So we whatever it takes, all right.
So this is the penultimate chapter of Books of Doom. We get basically
kind of Doom basically taking over Ladvaria or beginning his takeover of Lavaria. And
I kind of like it in the sense of its one could call econ a
cliche, but using him building his forces, not just literally, but also
taking those that have been oppressed by the ruler formerly the baron of Latveria,
and making them be a part of his army. Yeah. Like he makes
the point of saying he absolutely could just overpower the current king, overpower the
current ruler and take charge, but by doing it organically, the people would
be behind him more. And it just it also lets him kind of kind
of play with his food if you will a little bit. You know,
it's always been interesting, you know, in the sense of, you know,
you get doom telling the story and then you get and get these like
this documenta airing. It looks like, you know, I want to know
who they're talking to, who's filming this, like who's doing this? And
I present this you know, it's Doomed. So it's it's somewhat an unreliable
narrator, but he also puts some stuff where people questioning him, including the
return of Valeria questioning him and just basically saying, yeah, you're no better.
I don't I'm not necessarily trusting you. He is an unreliable narrator,
but he has also shown us times they've told us times when he has been
humbled, Yes, and so that does give some credibility to his story,
I think, because yes, he's telling it from his perspective, so obviously
his successes are maybe embellished, but he is still telling us times of his
failure. And I do like the the proto doom bots taking center stage.
Yeah, pretty cool design there. I like him, not as cool as
the actual doom bots, just because doctor Doom's a really cool design. But
it's fun to see see the genesis of those ideas. Yeah, I do
like we get Doom doing the hologram as as you know, his armies continued
marching a lot of various thing. You know, you surrender now or diet
my hands, old man in the anger to throwing it down. I like,
I like his little monk friends saying you did not expect him to surrender
master No, and I've been disappointed if he had. After all, the
true spectacle will begin tomorrow. Yes, yes, so great, great,
kind of great, kind of like quote unquote hero slash villain shot to march
to victory, to victory. I could almost taste its acid flavor on my
tongue. Already very specific, very specific, very very specific. And so
we will conclude Books of Doom next week. Brent and I will try to
remember the homework we have to do and select it, pick a new one,
pick a new one at that point, so hopefully we can remember to
do our homework this weekend. At that point we will. So. But
yes, so that is our show, volume one seventy seven in the books.
You know, we we said it had to be a quick one.
But you know, we had a lot to chew on on that one,
a lot of juicy rumors to talk about stuff. Yep. But yeah,
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It all continues to show. It's it's kind of like that that the
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stand the man would say, excelsior true believers, All right, Brent,
post credits discussion tonight. You know, we have a couple more, whether
we believe it or not, rumors, and this one is involving casting.
So this was coming from the Disney The dis Insider, now diz Insider has
been known occasionally. I'm still putting them under. They're just a little bit
above a broken clock, Scooper. They're not giant freaking robot. They're definitely
not that level, but they're not ones that I necessarily go to in the
sense of the reliability, right and even even some of the ones we do
kind of put a little more stock in, like uh my time to shine?
Hello, can we get dose? Daniel? Al pretty k. They're
definitely above them. So when they started putting this house, says where are
they getting? Are? They just feel like they're missing out and need to
put something out there to be getting part of the scoop game. So somewhat
humorous to be in this well, so we'll start off probably the most believable
one in at least in my eyes. So again spoilers possible spoilers for Deadpool
three cameos. Do you want to hear those? We'll see you next week.
Spoilers starting three two one. Channing Tatum is rumored to make an appearance
as Gambit, in the role that he was attached to st Are in a
Soulo film but got stuck in development. Hell can we get some Toast has
said that this is happening. Gambit is we'll be in Deadpool three as a
cameo, and Channing Tatum we'll finally get to portray the Cajun. It'd be
a fun little nod to the so that what if, what what? What
could have been? So I'm into it. Yeah, it would be.
Though, how about this one. Let's go from believable to I don't know,
Uh, Dazzler to make an appearance in Deadpool. Sure, we've seen,
we've seen Dazzler. But this is where I start saying, Oh,
I don't know about that one. Taylor Swift portraying Dazzler. I'm not I'm
not anti Tata, all right, she's an outstanding singer. I'm a little
bit more just saying we all know and have heard on the record. Kevin
Figi is a big Dazzler fan. Not sure if uh, you know Taylor
Swift is looking to do this necessarily, I'm not sure. I think she'd
be great in the part I'll say that she would also don't fit. I
don't think it's happening. Yeah, that one, I don't think. What
do you think if she's not happened? Do you think Dazzler is happening?
No? Okay, yeah, I'm definitely on the I don't believe it.
That's a fiction for me. Here's a fun one. Loki. Tom Hittleston
is rumored to make an appearance as Loki, but not the lokey. We
know. That's fine. I love that idea. I love it. We
do know the TA is involved. There's so many of these fun ideas that
this movie needs to be Deadpool three and four. But regardless, I love
the idea and getting a getting you know, actual like proper Marvel Studios people
involved in it. I think it's a great idea. Yeah, how about
this, Brian Cox rumored to reprise his role as William Stryker. You know,
I wouldn't mind seeing Wolverina have another shot at him. All right,
Yeah, it would be interesting. He's kind of like I could have him.
Great, No, no, no big deal for me. Howout this
one. Julian mccan Matt mc ken pronounce his name, words are tough tonight
McMahon h is rumored to take back on the mask of Doctor Doom. I'm
okay with it if the other rumors are true about the FF from that era.
I kind of just wish though, like he's the one I would let
go just I'm like, let's get a little bit more distanced before we bring
in Doctor I'm kind of like, I don't want to. I'm fine not
seeing a Doctor Doom because I think the mc really wants to do Doctor Doom
and to have another one just to be wiped out. It's probably not the
best introduction they want to do. That's that's kind of what I'm thinking.
So I had talked about in one of my factor fictions talking about that there
would be Wolverine variants too. Well, this line's up with it, saying
tarn Edgerton is rumored to make an appearance as a Wolverine variant now. He
has been very rumored as a possible fan cast for being our new Wolverine and
the MCU. You know, I'm fine with it. I'm not nothing wrong
with that, but I guess, and I'm honest, like, I want
to see Hugh Jackman's Wolverine in this movie, So I don't know if I'm
really I'm not opposed to it, but I'm not clamoring for other Wolverine specificallys
as well. Yeah, I have a feeling we're gonna see Deadpool variant.
He's gonna being like Jimmy Hudson or something like that. Yeah, you know,
it's fine, bring it on, just to give that fan a tip
of the hat, saying all right, we got your fan casting. You
got Jonathan Krazinski has mister Fantastic now you get your tarrant Edgerton go away.
Now maybe he'll get turned into this beginning. Now, this is one I
really really want, this last one. Daphne Keane rumored to appear as X
twenty three. Now that's a Wolverine character I can get behind. Absolutely she
She did a fantastic job in Logan and X twenty three is a great character,
great character. And you know what X one Wolverine Sorry, the other
Wolverine is a great character. So yes, no no problem here. Yeah,
so that was that. So what do you think if you actually stuck
around for this, what do you think which one of these rumors, these
cameos? You know it's is this the quote unquote multiverse and madness amount of
cameos that you all were hoping for you're going to get in Deadpool three?
Well, we'll have to see, and we will see you all next week
for volume one seventy eight. Have a good weekend and see you next week.
Bye bye,