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Bill Cunningham, the great American.
Of course, First of all, that

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you and yours of a glorious it's
a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. And the

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mainstream media this morning one of the
talk shows talked about how the Senate Republicans

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refused to accept yes for an answer. That is, they had a comprehensive

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border security bill that once again on
Thursday, that they said no to by

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a wide margin, including some Democrats, by the way, and all I

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hear about is the Republicans walking away
from the deal of a lifetime by having

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immigration control on the southern border.
Democrats want to do something, Republicans do

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not want to do something. What
is the reality. Of course, Eric

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ru arc has been with Numbers USA
for a long time. It is the

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leading immigration website in the country.
If you go to Numbers USA, you'll

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see lots of information about what's occurring. First of all, Eric, welcome

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again to the Bill Cunningham showing can
you tell the American people the two or

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three worst parts of the so called
bipartisan immigration bill that most Republicans said no

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to. Well, there's a lot
of bad parts to this bill, but

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I think the worst is it sets
a floor for illegal immigration. At the

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present time, the law is that
zero people should be coming over. Obviously

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that's not the case, but that
is what's in the law. And if

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the law were enforced, border patrol
and DHS would be doing everything they can

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to prevent it and to prevent people
from remaining in the country illegally. So

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what this bill does, and you're
right, the talk is it's a bipartisan

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deal, but even there's one Republican, Susan Collins, who voted for it.

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Even a Senator Langford who helped draft
the bill last time and promoted it,

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didn't even vote for it this time. But what this bill would do

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is if five thousand illegal border crossers
came every day for a week, average

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five thousand over the seven day period, this bill requires DHS Secretary to declare

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emergency at the border. What it
would require after that is absolutely nothing.

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Wouldn't have to take any action to
prevent more people from coming, but he

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would just have to say there's an
emergency going on and that's it. Now,

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Obviously DHS Secretary could do more.
He can do more now. President

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Bien doesn't need any authorit more authorit
to secure the border he's choosing not to.

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So what this bill ultimately does is
codified the Biden open border policies.

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But even if the DHS Secretary whoever
that may be, declared the emergency and

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did try to stop illegal immigration,
he was required under this bill to admit

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fourteen hundred inimiscible aliens a day,
even when the emergency was declared and give

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them work permits. So what the
Senate bill would do is again set up

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flour. We have to at least
admit fourteen hundred a day, and we

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have to give them work permits,
which is in violation of what the loss

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is. Right, So five thousand
a day, my simple deer Park Matt

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tells me that's about two million or
one point eight million a year. And

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also work permits are given out right
now, it's illegal for this to occur,

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and the Senate bill would quote the
Senate Bill requires the processing of at

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least five hundred thousand and up to
one point eight million illegal encounters per year

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in the US. It gives instant
work permits to asylum seekers. It fails

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to end the abuse in humanitarian parole. It fails to address loopholes associated with

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unaccompanied children, there's about seventy thousand
children right now that are missing in the

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system. When that was under Trump, the media want nuts. Because it's

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under Biden, no one brings it
up, including child smuggling and trafficking and

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fentanyl. Right now, it's illegal
for someone to come into the country.

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So this Senate bill, what would
have and it would have been signed by

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Biden and heartbeat and what brought in
one point eight to two million illegals legally

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give work permits across the board and
disperse all over the country. Now you

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also have a posting about NGOs non
government organizations. Can you explain? Because

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I watched this morning ladders up fences
in New Mexico. I've watched sixty thousand

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military age Chinese males come across the
southern border in San Diego. How do

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those individuals get all over the country? I watched the story out of Minnesota,

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and which is a small community of
eight thousand people. There's been fourteen

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hundred placements in a small town in
Minnesota of eight thousand people, and they

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bring in fourteen hundred illegals into the
country to live in Minnesota. And so

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it is unbelievable. What is the
role of the so called NGOs. Well,

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you're right, there's lots of people
coming in. Talked, I believe

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last time about how some people are
flying directly into the United States through programs

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set up by the Biden administration,
but also people who come over the border

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illegally are in many cases being housed
temporarily by NGOs. And you know those

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are non governmental organizations. So the
Biden administration says, well, these aren't

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government operations, these are private charities. But they're receiving a lot of money,

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taxpayer money. And so in effect, we are funding these NGOs and

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helping them to facilitate illegal immigration.
And so after their house they figure out

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where they want to go. They
can buy them plane tickets, or they

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can put them on a bus.
And you pointed to Minnesota. I just

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saw a story today boys of Idaho, where they were someone was filming three

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busloads of people migrants, you know, inimiscible aliens who were bused to boise.

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And this is happening all over the
country, and our taxpayers are taxpayer

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dollars are going to NGO entity to
fund this. HR two. The House

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Boarder Secure the Border Act would have
prevented that from happening. That's another thing

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the Senate bill wouldn't have done.
You mentioned the litany of things, not

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stopping unaccompanied minors, not tracking where
they are, not raising credible fear,

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not stopping a silum abuse and fraud. The Senate bill also would continue to

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fund these NGOs, and there's not
anything that the Biden administration is doing currently

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that the Senate bill would have prevented
from uh continuing to take place. Yeah,

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well, I'm just going to say, including sending all our money to

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these NGOs who are aiding in a
betting unique. I don't know how a

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small town of eight thousand people could
put up with a couple a couple of

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thousands just showing up there who don't
speak of the English and don't have medical

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care, and the kids can't go
to school. You can't take a twelve

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year old from Peru and put them
in like the sixth grade. It doesn't

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work. Your numbers USA dot com. In the year twenty twenty three.

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Of the physical twenty twenty three,
one point four million migrants were released into

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the interior of the country. Eight
hundred and fifty thousand visitors overstayed their visas

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and remained in the country illegally.
And these are individuals who come into the

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country illegally, maybe to say I'm
going to school, or I want to

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look at the Grand Canyon. I
want to be a visitor. What I

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want to do is go on vacation. In one year, eight hundred and

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fifty thousand overstayed their visa. No
one's looking for them. Six hundred and

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seventy thousand aliens who are reported to
have entered the country illegally without apprehension and

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blended under the underground workforce, plus
one million individuals obtained lawful permanent residents which

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are green cards. You end up
these numbers. Imagine going forward ten to

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twenty more years with the same policies. If we don't change course, what

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happens to the country. And you
mentioned the visa overstays, which is something

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that's not getting a lot of attention. We've talked about this for a long

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time, but because you know,
it's so overwhelming what's happening at the border.

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So you know, the things that
we've been talking about for a long

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time or sort of you know,
we're still talking about, but they're not

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getting much attention. But I don't
know if you saw the story recently where

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two Jordanian nationals. One came on
student visa ye never went to school.

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The other one came across the border
illegally, was released in the United States,

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tried to drive a box truck in
the Quantico Military base. And this

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is another example of where our government
is not giving us information. DHS and

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FBI are not releasing the details of
who these people are, why they're in

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the country, and what they were
trying to do. But we do know

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that they were trying to force their
way into the military base. And you

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know, these sorts of things are
going to become commonplace because there's so many

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people coming over and there's so many
people we have no idea who they are

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or what their intentions are once they're
here. Is this the way it always

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was? Here we are in Memorial
Day weekend twenty twenty four. Is this

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the way it was like five years
ago? Six years ago? It was

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not. And even when we look
back at the obamaministration at the time we

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were very critical, but the President
Obama and his gay Secretary j Johnson did

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take steps and you can argue that
well they did so because of the political

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blowback, but they still responded to
public opposition to the policies the Biden administration.

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Not only is it responding, they're
saying it's not happening, and if

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it is happening, it's Donald Trump's
fault. And people know that that's not

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the case. You know, whether
you like Donald Trump or not. I

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think we talked about this before.
No one is buying into the President Biden

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or Truck Schumer's story that they're tougher
on illegal immigration than the Biden or an

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excuse me, than the Trump administration. You have a chart here about foreign

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born persons living in America. In
nineteen seventy there was about nine million foreign

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born person living in the country.
Now it's fifty two million. Fifty two

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million, that's I look at this
chart, he goes one direction straight up.

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That's an all time high. And
that's something we've repeated a lot during

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the Biden administration is these are unprecedented
times when it comes to immigration, and

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we had a pause. You know, we had a great wave of immigration,

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as it's known, and we had
a time a period a very low

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immigration where we had growth of the
middle class, civil rights movement, economic

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opportunities for black Americans, and you
know, arguably we made, you know,

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forge the American identity. This pace
in the scale of immigration right now

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is not allowing for any of those
top In fact, we're seeing a reversal.

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Middle class people, taxpayers are being
forced you know, losing money a

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boy having to support these things,
but also losing jobs and opportunities, and

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working class Americans are having a hard
time finding jobs that will allow them good

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paying jobs, dignity and entry into
law term entry into the works, which

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is necessary for all of us to
have a We can't have a functioning nation

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if we have an economy that's dependent
upon illegal labor. I've heard the debates

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about whether if Trump is reelected,
which I considered to be almost impossible to

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comprehend. The media and the Democratic
Party, they're not done with him yet.

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I don't know if they're going to
let him win. But if he

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does win and he's sworn in and
he says we have to deport twenty to

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thirty million illegals in this country,
federal judges, the media all would go

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absolutely bonkers. Is it conceivable that
if Trump's put back an office to actually

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deport twenty million people? How would
that work? How would that look,

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Eisenhower did it in the nineteen fifties, much lower numbers. I think most

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Americans support that. About seventy percent
of Republicans say yes and about forty percent

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Democrats say yes. Is it realistic? Rice, Well, I don't.

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And then that's the way it's being
presented as mass deportations, as somehow Trump's

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going to have a police force.
You know, federal police force is going

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to go out and identify and round
people up and remove them from the country.

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But one of the things you do
is you have the terrence and enforcement,

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and so you have to stop the
flow. Number one. But you

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know, if you don't allow work
opportunities, and even in the Biden administration,

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if people aren't getting work authorization,
there's no workplace enforcement. So you

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don't have to have authorization to get
a job. Of the United States UNSCRUPULESUS

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employers if they hire you. The
federal government isn't going to prevent that.

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If you cut off benefits, if
you stop using taxpayer money to shuttle people

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around the country to their destination.
Choice people are the people coming over the

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order respond to the inspectives that we
are sending, right, And if President

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Trump stopped sending those incentives, and
you're right about how the courts is going

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to get tied up in the courts, that's going to be a tough fight.

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But if we have the political will, and as you mentioned, democratic

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vote are so poor removing people here
illegally. Again, if we're not enforcing

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our laws and we're not making people
who shouldn't be here returned to their own

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countries, then we can't say that
we have an immigration system what we have

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or open borders. They facto open
borders, no matter how the other side

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wants to say not everyone's getting in. Everyone that does get in, whether

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they have permission to or not,
is going to remain in this country,

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even if they commit crime. We've
seen illegal aliens so once I just mentioned

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the Jordanian nations, where are they
and are they going to be removed from

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this country? Our government will not
give us an affirmative answer. No.

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And we have hundreds of thousands of
those who wish us ill from dozens of

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countries, and it's so easy to
come into this country to prepare to commit

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terrorism or crime. There's migrant crimes. I watch ABC News the other night

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did a story on those from Peru
and Another group was from Columbia. It's

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burglary tourism, and it's those who
break into cars brought into the country illegally.

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They have to break into so many
cars or homes in order to justify

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their existence and massive lawlessness. And
I hear constantly, and I'm glad you're

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here to answer this question. I
have it on many guests who say blue

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cities, blue states do not ask
immigration status, so when someone's arrested,

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we don't know if they hear illegally. But on the other hand, I

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constantly hear that the crime rate of
illegals is lower than native born Americans.

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Both cannot be true. We do
hear that a lot, and in this

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case there's not information available. The
information that is available, Well, here's

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the trick that you just saide does
to make this argument. They don't count

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most of the crime the people here
illegally commit, including crossing the border illegally,

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So they're very selective in the crimes
that they tabulate. But they're also

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ignoring the fact that a lot of
these places, even if they're not saying

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tuary jurisdic don't have that data readily
available, or they're not providing that data,

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but we do know yes, of
course, when you're letting everyone in.

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People who want to work at the
local fast food franchise or the person

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who's in a criminal gang from Venezuela
are both in the country right and many

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have the best of intentions to come
here. Many do not. But you

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can't say the crime rate is low
for illegals when you don't inquire as to

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immigration status when they're arrested. Have
no idea, much like saying, well,

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the crime rate is down, but
police aren't arresting people. Judges aren't

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convicting people, and cops are demoralized
and they don't want to arrest anyone because

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they know they're going to be released
before the paperwork is completed. I've had

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many comps tell me that they don't
want to arrest anybody. It's not worth

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it. And we also see,
particularly in San Francisco would be the perfect

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example. In California the state as
a whole, they're not arresting people for

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certain crimes. But also if you
are an immigrant, if you're farm born

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and you're arrested, they're going to
let you please down spellingy to a misdemeanor,

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or they're going to let you go. And we see this specifically with

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Hunter and drug dealers in San Francisco. The DA said said that publicly,

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we're not going to arrest them because
that might get them removed from the country

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and allowed to deal drugs with impunity. And I'm that. You know,

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if you're not arresting people, then
you're not charging them with crimes. Right

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the crime rates down and the legal
aliens don't commit crime, you know that.

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Of course we don't. We don't
arrest anybody, and we don't ask

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immigration status. But the talking point
is there for those easily misled. The

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website is NumbersUSA dot com and it's
a wonderful resource and I get depressed when

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I read it. But we have
to think there's a better day that lies

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ahead and we can't have the same
results. But what we have to do

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is change leadership. We can't keep
doing the same thing anticipating differing results.

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And at least the Trumpster would put
his finger in the in the league and

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say we got to stop this,
quit incentivizing it. I don't know if

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he can deport twenty million, but
five or ten would be a good start.

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And if you commit crime in this
country, it should be automatic.

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But Eric Ruer continued to have a
great Memorial Day weekend, and thank you

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for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Eric. Always great to

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be with you. Bill, God
bless you. Let's continue with more.

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Crime rate is down. Of course, crime is up, but cops on

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arresting individuals and not inquiring, so
we don't know. But I know the

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crime rate is down and illegals are
very peaceful. Let's continue with more.

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