Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, First of all, that
you and yours of a glorious it's a wonderful Memorial Day weekend. And the
mainstream media this morning one of the talk shows talked about how the Senate Republicans
refused to accept yes for an answer. That is, they had a comprehensive
border security bill that once again on Thursday, that they said no to by
a wide margin, including some Democrats, by the way, and all I
hear about is the Republicans walking away from the deal of a lifetime by having
immigration control on the southern border. Democrats want to do something, Republicans do
not want to do something. What is the reality. Of course, Eric
ru arc has been with Numbers USA for a long time. It is the
leading immigration website in the country. If you go to Numbers USA, you'll
see lots of information about what's occurring. First of all, Eric, welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham showing can you tell the American people the two or
three worst parts of the so called bipartisan immigration bill that most Republicans said no
to. Well, there's a lot of bad parts to this bill, but
I think the worst is it sets a floor for illegal immigration. At the
present time, the law is that zero people should be coming over. Obviously
that's not the case, but that is what's in the law. And if
the law were enforced, border patrol and DHS would be doing everything they can
to prevent it and to prevent people from remaining in the country illegally. So
what this bill does, and you're right, the talk is it's a bipartisan
deal, but even there's one Republican, Susan Collins, who voted for it.
Even a Senator Langford who helped draft the bill last time and promoted it,
didn't even vote for it this time. But what this bill would do
is if five thousand illegal border crossers came every day for a week, average
five thousand over the seven day period, this bill requires DHS Secretary to declare
emergency at the border. What it would require after that is absolutely nothing.
Wouldn't have to take any action to prevent more people from coming, but he
would just have to say there's an emergency going on and that's it. Now,
Obviously DHS Secretary could do more. He can do more now. President
Bien doesn't need any authorit more authorit to secure the border he's choosing not to.
So what this bill ultimately does is codified the Biden open border policies.
But even if the DHS Secretary whoever that may be, declared the emergency and
did try to stop illegal immigration, he was required under this bill to admit
fourteen hundred inimiscible aliens a day, even when the emergency was declared and give
them work permits. So what the Senate bill would do is again set up
flour. We have to at least admit fourteen hundred a day, and we
have to give them work permits, which is in violation of what the loss
is. Right, So five thousand a day, my simple deer Park Matt
tells me that's about two million or one point eight million a year. And
also work permits are given out right now, it's illegal for this to occur,
and the Senate bill would quote the Senate Bill requires the processing of at
least five hundred thousand and up to one point eight million illegal encounters per year
in the US. It gives instant work permits to asylum seekers. It fails
to end the abuse in humanitarian parole. It fails to address loopholes associated with
unaccompanied children, there's about seventy thousand children right now that are missing in the
system. When that was under Trump, the media want nuts. Because it's
under Biden, no one brings it up, including child smuggling and trafficking and
fentanyl. Right now, it's illegal for someone to come into the country.
So this Senate bill, what would have and it would have been signed by
Biden and heartbeat and what brought in one point eight to two million illegals legally
give work permits across the board and disperse all over the country. Now you
also have a posting about NGOs non government organizations. Can you explain? Because
I watched this morning ladders up fences in New Mexico. I've watched sixty thousand
military age Chinese males come across the southern border in San Diego. How do
those individuals get all over the country? I watched the story out of Minnesota,
and which is a small community of eight thousand people. There's been fourteen
hundred placements in a small town in Minnesota of eight thousand people, and they
bring in fourteen hundred illegals into the country to live in Minnesota. And so
it is unbelievable. What is the role of the so called NGOs. Well,
you're right, there's lots of people coming in. Talked, I believe
last time about how some people are flying directly into the United States through programs
set up by the Biden administration, but also people who come over the border
illegally are in many cases being housed temporarily by NGOs. And you know those
are non governmental organizations. So the Biden administration says, well, these aren't
government operations, these are private charities. But they're receiving a lot of money,
taxpayer money. And so in effect, we are funding these NGOs and
helping them to facilitate illegal immigration. And so after their house they figure out
where they want to go. They can buy them plane tickets, or they
can put them on a bus. And you pointed to Minnesota. I just
saw a story today boys of Idaho, where they were someone was filming three
busloads of people migrants, you know, inimiscible aliens who were bused to boise.
And this is happening all over the country, and our taxpayers are taxpayer
dollars are going to NGO entity to fund this. HR two. The House
Boarder Secure the Border Act would have prevented that from happening. That's another thing
the Senate bill wouldn't have done. You mentioned the litany of things, not
stopping unaccompanied minors, not tracking where they are, not raising credible fear,
not stopping a silum abuse and fraud. The Senate bill also would continue to
fund these NGOs, and there's not anything that the Biden administration is doing currently
that the Senate bill would have prevented from uh continuing to take place. Yeah,
well, I'm just going to say, including sending all our money to
these NGOs who are aiding in a betting unique. I don't know how a
small town of eight thousand people could put up with a couple a couple of
thousands just showing up there who don't speak of the English and don't have medical
care, and the kids can't go to school. You can't take a twelve
year old from Peru and put them in like the sixth grade. It doesn't
work. Your numbers USA dot com. In the year twenty twenty three.
Of the physical twenty twenty three, one point four million migrants were released into
the interior of the country. Eight hundred and fifty thousand visitors overstayed their visas
and remained in the country illegally. And these are individuals who come into the
country illegally, maybe to say I'm going to school, or I want to
look at the Grand Canyon. I want to be a visitor. What I
want to do is go on vacation. In one year, eight hundred and
fifty thousand overstayed their visa. No one's looking for them. Six hundred and
seventy thousand aliens who are reported to have entered the country illegally without apprehension and
blended under the underground workforce, plus one million individuals obtained lawful permanent residents which
are green cards. You end up these numbers. Imagine going forward ten to
twenty more years with the same policies. If we don't change course, what
happens to the country. And you mentioned the visa overstays, which is something
that's not getting a lot of attention. We've talked about this for a long
time, but because you know, it's so overwhelming what's happening at the border.
So you know, the things that we've been talking about for a long
time or sort of you know, we're still talking about, but they're not
getting much attention. But I don't know if you saw the story recently where
two Jordanian nationals. One came on student visa ye never went to school.
The other one came across the border illegally, was released in the United States,
tried to drive a box truck in the Quantico Military base. And this
is another example of where our government is not giving us information. DHS and
FBI are not releasing the details of who these people are, why they're in
the country, and what they were trying to do. But we do know
that they were trying to force their way into the military base. And you
know, these sorts of things are going to become commonplace because there's so many
people coming over and there's so many people we have no idea who they are
or what their intentions are once they're here. Is this the way it always
was? Here we are in Memorial Day weekend twenty twenty four. Is this
the way it was like five years ago? Six years ago? It was
not. And even when we look back at the obamaministration at the time we
were very critical, but the President Obama and his gay Secretary j Johnson did
take steps and you can argue that well they did so because of the political
blowback, but they still responded to public opposition to the policies the Biden administration.
Not only is it responding, they're saying it's not happening, and if
it is happening, it's Donald Trump's fault. And people know that that's not
the case. You know, whether you like Donald Trump or not. I
think we talked about this before. No one is buying into the President Biden
or Truck Schumer's story that they're tougher on illegal immigration than the Biden or an
excuse me, than the Trump administration. You have a chart here about foreign
born persons living in America. In nineteen seventy there was about nine million foreign
born person living in the country. Now it's fifty two million. Fifty two
million, that's I look at this chart, he goes one direction straight up.
That's an all time high. And that's something we've repeated a lot during
the Biden administration is these are unprecedented times when it comes to immigration, and
we had a pause. You know, we had a great wave of immigration,
as it's known, and we had a time a period a very low
immigration where we had growth of the middle class, civil rights movement, economic
opportunities for black Americans, and you know, arguably we made, you know,
forge the American identity. This pace in the scale of immigration right now
is not allowing for any of those top In fact, we're seeing a reversal.
Middle class people, taxpayers are being forced you know, losing money a
boy having to support these things, but also losing jobs and opportunities, and
working class Americans are having a hard time finding jobs that will allow them good
paying jobs, dignity and entry into law term entry into the works, which
is necessary for all of us to have a We can't have a functioning nation
if we have an economy that's dependent upon illegal labor. I've heard the debates
about whether if Trump is reelected, which I considered to be almost impossible to
comprehend. The media and the Democratic Party, they're not done with him yet.
I don't know if they're going to let him win. But if he
does win and he's sworn in and he says we have to deport twenty to
thirty million illegals in this country, federal judges, the media all would go
absolutely bonkers. Is it conceivable that if Trump's put back an office to actually
deport twenty million people? How would that work? How would that look,
Eisenhower did it in the nineteen fifties, much lower numbers. I think most
Americans support that. About seventy percent of Republicans say yes and about forty percent
Democrats say yes. Is it realistic? Rice, Well, I don't.
And then that's the way it's being presented as mass deportations, as somehow Trump's
going to have a police force. You know, federal police force is going
to go out and identify and round people up and remove them from the country.
But one of the things you do is you have the terrence and enforcement,
and so you have to stop the flow. Number one. But you
know, if you don't allow work opportunities, and even in the Biden administration,
if people aren't getting work authorization, there's no workplace enforcement. So you
don't have to have authorization to get a job. Of the United States UNSCRUPULESUS
employers if they hire you. The federal government isn't going to prevent that.
If you cut off benefits, if you stop using taxpayer money to shuttle people
around the country to their destination. Choice people are the people coming over the
order respond to the inspectives that we are sending, right, And if President
Trump stopped sending those incentives, and you're right about how the courts is going
to get tied up in the courts, that's going to be a tough fight.
But if we have the political will, and as you mentioned, democratic
vote are so poor removing people here illegally. Again, if we're not enforcing
our laws and we're not making people who shouldn't be here returned to their own
countries, then we can't say that we have an immigration system what we have
or open borders. They facto open borders, no matter how the other side
wants to say not everyone's getting in. Everyone that does get in, whether
they have permission to or not, is going to remain in this country,
even if they commit crime. We've seen illegal aliens so once I just mentioned
the Jordanian nations, where are they and are they going to be removed from
this country? Our government will not give us an affirmative answer. No.
And we have hundreds of thousands of those who wish us ill from dozens of
countries, and it's so easy to come into this country to prepare to commit
terrorism or crime. There's migrant crimes. I watch ABC News the other night
did a story on those from Peru and Another group was from Columbia. It's
burglary tourism, and it's those who break into cars brought into the country illegally.
They have to break into so many cars or homes in order to justify
their existence and massive lawlessness. And I hear constantly, and I'm glad you're
here to answer this question. I have it on many guests who say blue
cities, blue states do not ask immigration status, so when someone's arrested,
we don't know if they hear illegally. But on the other hand, I
constantly hear that the crime rate of illegals is lower than native born Americans.
Both cannot be true. We do hear that a lot, and in this
case there's not information available. The information that is available, Well, here's
the trick that you just saide does to make this argument. They don't count
most of the crime the people here illegally commit, including crossing the border illegally,
So they're very selective in the crimes that they tabulate. But they're also
ignoring the fact that a lot of these places, even if they're not saying
tuary jurisdic don't have that data readily available, or they're not providing that data,
but we do know yes, of course, when you're letting everyone in.
People who want to work at the local fast food franchise or the person
who's in a criminal gang from Venezuela are both in the country right and many
have the best of intentions to come here. Many do not. But you
can't say the crime rate is low for illegals when you don't inquire as to
immigration status when they're arrested. Have no idea, much like saying, well,
the crime rate is down, but police aren't arresting people. Judges aren't
convicting people, and cops are demoralized and they don't want to arrest anyone because
they know they're going to be released before the paperwork is completed. I've had
many comps tell me that they don't want to arrest anybody. It's not worth
it. And we also see, particularly in San Francisco would be the perfect
example. In California the state as a whole, they're not arresting people for
certain crimes. But also if you are an immigrant, if you're farm born
and you're arrested, they're going to let you please down spellingy to a misdemeanor,
or they're going to let you go. And we see this specifically with
Hunter and drug dealers in San Francisco. The DA said said that publicly,
we're not going to arrest them because that might get them removed from the country
and allowed to deal drugs with impunity. And I'm that. You know,
if you're not arresting people, then you're not charging them with crimes. Right
the crime rates down and the legal aliens don't commit crime, you know that.
Of course we don't. We don't arrest anybody, and we don't ask
immigration status. But the talking point is there for those easily misled. The
website is NumbersUSA dot com and it's a wonderful resource and I get depressed when
I read it. But we have to think there's a better day that lies
ahead and we can't have the same results. But what we have to do
is change leadership. We can't keep doing the same thing anticipating differing results.
And at least the Trumpster would put his finger in the in the league and
say we got to stop this, quit incentivizing it. I don't know if
he can deport twenty million, but five or ten would be a good start.
And if you commit crime in this country, it should be automatic.
But Eric Ruer continued to have a great Memorial Day weekend, and thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you Eric. Always great to
be with you. Bill, God bless you. Let's continue with more.
Crime rate is down. Of course, crime is up, but cops on
arresting individuals and not inquiring, so we don't know. But I know the
crime rate is down and illegals are very peaceful. Let's continue with more.
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