WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.200 The o'chiley effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like you 2 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:15.679 now and now most iterated noise in all media shuck June seven, twenty twenty 3 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:19.000 four, allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this the 4 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:23.480 O'Kelly effect. You hearing us live. If it's just a little bit after 5 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:27.800 eight pm Eastern here on a friar's day, that's right, it is Friday, 6 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.519 and that means it's time for to open mic. And the show is 7 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.000 not about my opinion tonight, not at all. It's about what you decide 8 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.960 to add to it. How do you do that? Call us? Three 9 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:44.359 one nine five two seven five zero one six. That's three one nine five 10 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:49.359 two seven five zero one six. Now, uh, my mic is a 11 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.439 little low, a little odd today. Let's see. Oh there we go. 12 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.359 I don't know, maybe I just cranked it up too much. We'll 13 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:58.399 we'll, we'll find out as the broadcast goes, because I know that's probably 14 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:03.520 a little loud in the sky, but on the broadcast it's probably fine. 15 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:07.280 Anyway. We'll find out how things go as they go tonight, and Aaron 16 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.439 Fronz will join us at ten pm when he starts the age of Transitions Uncle 17 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:17.400 the broadcast at eleven PM all times Eastern, but until then three one nine 18 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:21.319 five two seven five zero one six that's the number to call, or you 19 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:25.239 can reach out to me Charles dot ocelly on Skype, and if you ask 20 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:29.480 me to, I will call you into the show. So my cos Me 21 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:33.000 Pete is with me, and I got a couple of things I'm gonna have 22 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.599 to get to tonight, so I'm gonna make sure I make time for them. 23 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.040 I know everybody's got their run on sentences at the end of the show, 24 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.719 but I'm gonna cut people off by haf to to squeeze in what must 25 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.280 be squeezed in at the end of the show, although I'll try and get 26 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:49.519 get it there. A lot earlier, you might have noticed I did a 27 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:52.359 little reading and a little bit of a re edit of one of the live 28 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:57.239 readings regarding Lancer. The discount code out there, o'celly ten. You get 29 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.840 ten percent off on your tickets and stuff. Plus I gave you information about 30 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:07.719 travel discounts, et cetera, et cetera in the announcement. And maybe I'll 31 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:13.199 try another read tonight of the commercials so to speak. And then I'll just 32 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.400 make one that will play over and over again. See, you guys can 33 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:19.960 get the information about November twenty second to twenty four in Dallas this year, 34 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:24.400 but a lot of things to get to until then. And here we go 35 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:31.560 again, b Pete. How you doing this week? Tall? Doing pretty 36 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.759 good. It's it's been busy at work, so I've not had time to 37 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.919 really stay on top of anything. But looking forward to a couple of days 38 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:45.560 off as a well earned break. I was gonna say, you almost sound 39 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:47.879 as tired as I feel, which is not good. You sound tired, 40 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.560 Okay, Yeah, just like I said, this is a long week, 41 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.000 so it'll give out it next week. Plus, it's you know, summertime. 42 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:00.639 It's starting to get ninety every day or above that time of year. 43 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.520 And you like that heat though, don't you? Not that much? No? 44 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.639 No, uh now, I like it warm, but I don't like 45 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:13.639 it if it's above eighty degrees. I just didn't go north. I see, 46 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.759 you're one of those eighty degree guys where it's like as long as it's 47 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:22.120 like clearly not close to anything chili, but you know, just a little 48 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:27.360 bit, maybe a little I mean, we're any other if I'm on the 49 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.439 boat, or I'm out fishing, or I'm at the beach. I don't 50 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:35.159 care how hot it gets, but it work on that interstate. The area 51 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.680 that we're working in, the twenty miles section is in the heat sink of 52 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:45.159 the state is the hottest region in the state daily and it's a lot of 53 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.199 sand, so it just when it gets hot there. When it gets ninety 54 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.360 five degrees there, it's like being in a low depression in a cooker and 55 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:58.719 thunderstorms blow up, and I mean you'll get last year we saw one hundred 56 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:00.919 and three hundred and four degrees every day. I mean it was it was 57 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:05.000 nothing. It's a lot of blacktop too, right, so blacktop is hotter 58 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:09.919 than a lot of other places. Job. Yeah, you take take a 59 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:13.919 heat sink. I mean the hottest you know, North Carolina is what eight 60 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:16.759 and a half nine hours from one end to the other driving at sixty seventy 61 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.519 miles an hour. So it's a good wide state. But this area that 62 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:26.839 we're in is the beginning of the sand Hills area, and it's just a 63 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.959 natural depression. Like I said, this is twenty miles a swamp that we're 64 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.240 building, this expanding, this highway through. So it's just hot and muggy 65 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:38.959 every other day normally. Now you throw you know, upper ninety degree temps 66 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.839 on top of that, and it just gets pretty miserable. Not to mention 67 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.519 the guys are out there not walking next to a three hundred and seventy five 68 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.480 degree paver. Yeah, no, I hear you. But you know, 69 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.399 the thing that used to kill me is people would tell me about Arizona all 70 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.720 the time when it was like one hundred and seven hundred and ten degrees. 71 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.879 They'd be like, yeah, but it's a dry heat, and I'm like, 72 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.120 I don't care how dry it is one hundred and some degrees. It's 73 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.480 still hot now it is, Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's true 74 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.160 that the humidity sucks, and the area of the state that you're talking about 75 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:11.360 sounds to me like it's far enough away from the shore that you don't get 76 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.399 the benefit of the breeze and you also don't get the benefit of being inlanding 77 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:20.240 up. It's like exactly in that crease there where the moisture can still deposit 78 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:27.439 itself quite quite heavily, you know. So being a lower or a lower 79 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.199 elevation section, I mean, it's not like being at the coast, just 80 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.800 around the Failable area. It started at the sand hills, so Pinehurst, 81 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:39.199 you know that that belt through there, so it's all turned into sand. 82 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.279 It's it's a lower elevation, lower than at the coast in some places, 83 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:49.240 and it's just a heat sink. That heat gets drawn in there into into 84 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.720 that bowl and it just sits there, which you know, suits the you 85 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.879 know, you're in the middle of a swamp, so humidity is through the 86 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.759 roofs. Yeah. See that was the great thing about it to the job 87 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.279 site. But anybody, I mean, the guys I pity are the guys 88 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.199 that are having to do roofing. You know, you do a hot tar 89 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:12.720 and gravel roof when it's one hundred and five outside. You know, it's 90 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.839 there's certain jobs that is I don't any guys at all. Well, Roofing 91 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.160 just kind of sucks no matter where you are. I mean, is a 92 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:23.879 tough job. I don't think about it. I did. I roofed for 93 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:27.240 a short time. It was mainly over the spring and in the fall. 94 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.439 In the summer I had something else going on. But it was enjoyable to 95 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.120 get up there, you know, on a roof and start knocking one out. 96 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.920 I was just learning how to do safe roofs when I you know, 97 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:45.199 went on to do something else. Those are interesting to me. I'd like 98 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:46.800 to go. I want them. I'd like to go over to England to 99 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:53.879 see them do those. Theo's turf roofs and the thatch roofs. Those things 100 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.600 are amazing. You know. It's just a bunch of dry thats woven a 101 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:03.199 certain way that we the rain hits it doesn't penetrate and get inside. It's 102 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:08.519 just amazing how they work. Well, you know, I've seen that kind 103 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:12.759 of stuff. I've also done the tar roof deal. You know, when 104 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.879 when we had to redo a roof on the factory I was working at, 105 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.519 and uh man, it's I don't know, I never enjoyed roofing at all. 106 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:25.720 One of those where you had to put the black membrane down first, 107 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.040 and then you brought in your tar and gravel. Well you put down this 108 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:34.399 stuff that that's kind of like paper, uh, and that gets rolled out 109 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:39.839 and it has to be put down just a certain way and uh and attached. 110 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.600 And then you put down just a bunch of this stuff that you're supposed 111 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.959 to spread around evenly. That's just I mean, I was just labor on 112 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.279 the job, so I didn't know the ins and outs of how it worked. 113 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.519 Really. It was just sort of like take this, spread this around, 114 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:55.240 take this, and bring this over to this guy. I was carrying 115 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.399 stuff, you know. Uh. But but the rolls that we had, 116 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.399 roles of paper that we had to lay down up there, for some reason, 117 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.160 it reminded me of paper. It probably wasn't paper, but it was 118 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.839 like rolls of paper, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, 119 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:13.759 like roof and paper, I guess. Yeah. Well, like I 120 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.279 said, we had back when I was surveying, we had to go They 121 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.399 were doing an expansion on the hospital in Greenville, and we had to go 122 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:26.480 over and do a bunch of preliminary shots on the building just to get locations 123 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.720 and stuff so they could take the plans that they had and fit it to 124 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.639 the existing building. So we went out there to survey. We laid a 125 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:35.799 bunch of control points out and we had to shoot up. We shot a 126 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.799 point up on the top of the parapets on the corners of the building, 127 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:48.519 and then we shot through the doors into the lobby, into the stairwell, 128 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.399 and we surveyed up the stairwell to the roof and then out on the roof 129 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.519 and got corner shots on all the corners of the building because they had to 130 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:03.679 peel back a facade to fit the steal in at certain floor positions. So 131 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:05.200 we had to go in there and they got all that peeled back. We're 132 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.159 trying to shoot the interior stuff, they advertied to. We get up there. 133 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.600 They're working on a section of a roof and these guys laid it down. 134 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:15.720 It was like a almost like a rubber mat. It was some kind 135 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.919 of memory I don't know if it was PBC or rubber or something rubber like 136 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.519 material, and it was probably an eighth of an inch thick. They had 137 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.480 to completely cover the roof and tie it in, just like you know how 138 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:30.879 the old tin roofs when you do your flashing. Everything had to overlap with 139 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.679 the way the water ran. We had to do the same thing with this. 140 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:39.840 Then they hauled up these damn hot boxes and threw in these blocks of 141 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:45.840 asphalt and melted it down, and they poured gravel on this entire roof and 142 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:52.039 then target it in place. You talk about hot those guys. I don't 143 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.639 know how much they were making, but it wasn't enough. Well, that's 144 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.200 the thing. It was very hot job. Yeah, no, it was 145 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:00.840 very hot doing it. Come to think of it, and how they're describing 146 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.480 this as rubbery you know what, it was kind of rubbery paper like sort 147 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.399 of like it was weird. It was very thin, like you said, 148 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.159 if you're talking about something that's maybe an eighth of an inch thick, but 149 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:15.120 maybe not right even a little. Maybe we had the cheaper stuff even cause 150 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.279 I don't know if people know this, but in New Jersey there's like these 151 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:24.799 weird box like factories, which are effectively buildings that are for the most part, 152 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:26.840 they have a part portion of it that's you know, one floor high, 153 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.679 and then there's a box that's either two or three stories high that is 154 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.799 the rest of the factory, okay, and that's where all the stuff is 155 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.120 made or whatever is in the taller box so to speak. There's not two 156 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:48.360 floors. Usually there's just the one floor and a big high ceiling for various 157 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.399 reasons. And here you are. This is what I'm on top of doing 158 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.519 the roof for by the way, so I don't know if I was two 159 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.840 or three stories up. You know, you're asking the block got estimate. 160 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:05.080 It didn't really matter. I was not happy about it, and because I 161 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.799 don't I'm not a fan of heights anyway. Uh So I wasn't happy about 162 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.799 it at all, but had to do what I had to do. And 163 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:13.960 I used to work maintenance in that building, so of course I was another 164 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.200 pair of hands sent up there with the other guys to do this. So 165 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.240 I just did what I was told, which was carry stuff around. And 166 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:28.360 then you spread things around with what looks like brooms and mops really, but 167 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.759 they're a little weird, you know. And that's what I used to this 168 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.679 alubas seal stuff here that like they also call it mobile coat, and it's 169 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:43.440 like an emulsified asphalt. It's got like metal flakes in it. Well pour 170 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:48.879 it out. Yeah, it's spreading either a squeegee or a push brew or 171 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.360 like you said, a mob. Yeah. See that's the thing. We 172 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:54.120 had, like push brooms and mops, and the push brooms were a little 173 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.519 bigger, and the mops were weird kind of the way they were like they 174 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.960 weren't standard you know, stringy mops. They were thick. They were like 175 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.559 heavy duty mops. And and that's that's what I wound up doing. Come 176 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.080 to think of it, when it dried, there was a lot of shiny 177 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.879 stuff in it. Reminded me of asphalt I'd seen in some other places, 178 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.039 you know, where you got a lot of that when it's first, you 179 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.679 know, fresh and everything. There's a lot of shiny, glittery type stuff 180 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.200 in it. I couldn't identify it, though, because I was just you 181 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.879 know, spreading around the blackness of it and trying to get it so it 182 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.360 was laying evenly. That was the whole thing. It had to be like 183 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.240 evenly spread around. And again, it wasn't me who was doing any of 184 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.080 the refined work here. It was just like I was doing the general stuff, 185 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.879 and there was guys behind me fixing and making sure it was done right 186 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:46.279 after I did the uh the once over, you know. So yeah, 187 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.279 but I didn't have that job permanently. I did roofing other times too, 188 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.279 but that was like you know, private homes and stuff like that. And 189 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.080 I gotta tell you, trying to do it at the shore is weird because 190 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:01.759 you have that sea air and all that, and it's not but still I 191 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.919 do not like roofing. Rooping was one of the toughest jobs that I ever 192 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.159 had to do. So another job that has got to be tough in the 193 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:15.480 summertime, that's working in a foundry. Well, working with the glass company 194 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.799 was rough too, Let's be honest. When you're trying to, you know, 195 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.200 put in stuff at one hundred degrees outside and you're putting in windows, 196 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.279 you know, glass, some of this stuff gets hot, especially the institutional 197 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.840 you know, really super thick and things that are not supposed to shatter, 198 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.840 whether it's for a school or a prison or whatever. You know, those 199 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:41.279 panes of glass are super heavy, difficult to move around. You guarantee to 200 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.440 get cut up. And it's just it's the way it is. And God 201 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.480 help you if somebody doesn't handle it right and the weight goes the wrong way 202 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.080 while you're trying to hoist the thing up or you're trying to you know, 203 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:58.080 I mean, it's a that's kind of a rough job. But the roofing 204 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.480 was worse. I worked one summer, well, I worked for just over 205 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:07.279 a year of included one summer in a watchman's shop in the shipyard Norfolk shipbuilt. 206 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.480 Oh excuse me. It was pretty bad with the furnaces going. But 207 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:20.039 we had we had these massive, huge squirrel cage fans that blowed twenty four 208 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.519 sets in the wintertime just to get the heat out of the place from all 209 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:30.200 the furnaces and that we had probably eight furnaces, and then a series of 210 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:37.240 hammers air hammers and presses and drill presses and those pretty neat little shop, 211 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.039 but it would get pretty toast to you in there in the summertime, but 212 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.559 for those fans going, it always kept a breeze in there, so it 213 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.559 wasn't too bad. Well, I liked working in the shop when I was 214 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.559 working the glass glazier stuff. I mean we also built the frames, so 215 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.799 you know, working with the drill presses and all that kind of stuff. 216 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.480 Yeah, that was the kind of work we did in the shop. Everything 217 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:00.399 pretty fab before we show up at the job, and then you know, 218 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.600 take all the stuff that we've been building all week or whatever and install it 219 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:09.320 all systematically, you know. To hear the news, I just tripped across 220 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:13.320 this. I heard earlier in the week that Dlex Jones was whining on his 221 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.639 program about how he is being treated bad. They were going to shut him 222 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:24.320 down, and apparently he has moved to change his bankruptcy to a Chapter seven 223 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:31.399 liquidation and is selling it all. Really, yeah, he's going to be 224 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:37.919 selling info Wars, it says. Jones asked a judge judge to convert his 225 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.480 bankruptcy to a Chapter seven liquidation for relinquishing his desperate effort to save info Wars, 226 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.799 the conspiracy platform from which he regularly viewed basis blah blah blah. Last 227 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.399 weekend, he blubbered on air that he was being targeted for abuse by deep 228 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.679 state actors who wanted to shut down his show, and begged listeners to buy 229 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:02.320 his dietary supplements to support him. The next day, the Sandy Hook families 230 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:07.879 asked the Texas judge overseeing his bankruptcy case to liquidate his assets, including info 231 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:12.759 Wars and Free Speech Systems, and Jones's attorney affirmed in a Thursday court filing 232 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.919 that there is no reasonable prospect of a successful reorganization, so they want to 233 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.840 move it to a Chapter seven. Oh so he's going to cash out now, 234 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.879 this is new. He's got to pay one point five billion to the 235 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.480 families. I mean, that's awfully h damn well, I've got no sympathy 236 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.919 for the guy. He dug his own hole, but one and a half 237 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:37.879 billion, good God, Well, but here's the thing. I contend he 238 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:42.200 can absorb it. That's the thing is, you know, I can't say. 239 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.480 I mean, I'm certain that, you know, just like with any 240 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:49.360 other big business. You know, there's probably hidden stuff in the books and 241 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:53.159 all that. But it seems to me like there was enough income that he 242 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:59.960 could handle it. You know. Well, apparently his income has fallen off 243 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:04.119 quite a bit here recently. Hmmm. I guess he's selling as many buckets 244 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:08.319 and supplements. And the HBO documentary didn't help him. I mean, come 245 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:14.559 on that, along with all the other recent media attention, it might help 246 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:18.680 him later on. Now if he can liquid I'm wondering, if he liquidates 247 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:25.680 his assets, tells everything he's got, they give it to the families. 248 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:29.200 Let's say out of the one point five billion, it's only worth a billion, 249 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.960 okay, so he's got five hundred million. He's still owes it. 250 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:41.240 Okay. I'm wondering with a chapter seven total liquidation, that five hundred mil 251 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.279 would be written off and they would take it as a loss. So his 252 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:52.440 little tour here, you know, two three months ago, of being reformatted 253 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:57.400 on the talk shows, you know, boosting him back up and letting him 254 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:02.880 letting him recreate his brand. Well he got back on Twitter one. Yeah, 255 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:07.160 once he gets this burden off of him, later on, he could 256 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.559 become very profitable if you just would remember not to step across the stupid line 257 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:17.400 and challenge people to sue him. Oh there's there's that, plus, you 258 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:21.640 know, allowing people to be docs, giving out people's addresses. I mean, 259 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:23.559 there's a lot of stuff he's done over the years. Oh yeah, 260 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.599 But I'm wondering if his little rehabilitation tour is going to help him here, 261 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.880 he gets this thing sold, everything's liquidated, they ride off the rest of 262 00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:37.720 the debt because this chapter seven boom. I'm certain this is strategic. You 263 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.440 know, it's all profit after that. But this is the way it works. 264 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.440 You know. Look again, when you take a look at the you 265 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.160 know, the the Trump taj Mahal bankruptcy, right which, by the way, 266 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.240 you just quick reminder, you know, there was a guy from literally 267 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:59.079 Rothschild's ink that gave him the three hundred million to bail that out, just 268 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.559 just to remind there. Interesting and that guy wound up being Wilbur Ross as 269 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:10.759 Labor secretary later I think anyway, that aside. Interesting thing about it though, 270 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.200 is after you get through these bankruptcies, you payoff your creditors pennies on 271 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.799 the dollar, and all things are settled from the entity that incurred the problems. 272 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.960 You walk away, you go to another situation, and you start up 273 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:27.720 something else. I mean, is this not the way big business functions? 274 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:33.480 Anyway? So maybe this is the perfect create of the LLC. Well, 275 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.400 right, let's walk away, crank up next week in another post office box. 276 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.400 But there you go. I mean, like you know, this week 277 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.200 B Pete LLC went bankrupt and we decided to liquidate. Next week Pete B 278 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:49.880 will come out and you know what I mean, it doesn't matter. And 279 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.559 you could name a corporation that if you wanted to, not a problem an 280 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:59.680 LLC, right, a limited liability corporation. Anyway, I find this news 281 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:04.359 interes and really clearly it's a strategic move. It probably means that he's not 282 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.000 going to pay off the full one point five billion, and indeed might be 283 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:14.720 a great reorganization so worth well, but that's the thing, but they did 284 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.680 everything. Doesn't he have some property holdings down there in Austin, Well, 285 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.160 he had some property. I mean, even with the divorce settlement and all 286 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:23.440 that stuff. That was the funny thing is it's sort of like, oh, 287 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:27.000 I don't own anything. You know, when when he had the divorce 288 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.519 and the child support and all that kind of thing going on. You know 289 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:33.680 the court case where he said I'm a performance artist. That whole situation, 290 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.680 well, his lawyers said it. But you know what I'm saying. Uh, 291 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.200 And you know it's funny because Richie Allen had me on to talk about 292 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.680 Alex Jones like a couple of days ago, a couple of days short of 293 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.920 this news. So yeah, you were there, what Tuesday or Wednesday? 294 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.039 I forget which day now, but it was this week and it was like, 295 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:55.519 I didn't expect Richie to want to talk about that, but he was 296 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.279 like, let's talk about this. I said, okay, we'll talk about 297 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.839 Alex Jones. And He's going, I don't know. I stand by free 298 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.519 speech, and I'm like, yes, so do I. But I also 299 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.559 stand by the idea of responsibility. If you're a broadcaster and you know you 300 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.839 have a platform, I can't get on my little, my little platform and 301 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.680 start threatening to do harm to people otherwise, which, by the way, 302 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:19.920 this week Facebook did something strange. Let me get to that later. In 303 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:25.640 the show to me directly, and I don't understand what happened here because supposedly 304 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:34.000 I'm sexually exploiting someone anyway, is this yea sexually exploiting people? Here? 305 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:38.880 According to Facebook, I am sexually exploiting adults. Look, I'm glad it 306 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.279 wasn't children that they made the claim about, but still, what in the 307 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:48.880 hell hell anyway? I'll get there later, you know, Let's look at 308 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.720 what the AP has to say actually on published on June seventh. Here, 309 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.640 just really quickly to give people an idea of the news that beat Piet's referring 310 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.920 to, and I'll just read like a couple of quick paragraphs from the APCE 311 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.240 story, which appears to be a concise round up of what happened here, 312 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:10.200 And they of course begin with the dreaded term conspiracy theorist. I don't know 313 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:12.799 how much theory he's got behind any of this stuff, but he definitely talks 314 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:18.680 about conspiracies. But anyway, Alex Jones is seeking court permission to convert his 315 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:26.519 personal bankruptcy okay, reorganization to a liquidation. Now that's let's hold on a 316 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:32.279 second here, his personal bankruptcy. Now, if the AP is accurate. 317 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:38.480 This is his personal bankruptcy, which does not necessarily mean his corporate bankruptcy. 318 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:44.599 Okay, these are two different things, but let's keep reading anyway, which 319 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:48.119 would lead to a sell off of a large portion of his assets to help 320 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.200 pay off some of the one point five billion he owes relatives of victims of 321 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:57.319 the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Jones and his media company Free Speech Systems, 322 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:04.759 both of five held for bankruptcy reorganization see both filed okay after the Sandy 323 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:11.599 Hook families won lawsuits against him for his repeatedly calling the twenty twenty the twenty 324 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:18.839 twelve Excuse Me shooting that killed twenty first graders and six educators in Newtown, 325 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.079 Connecticut, a hoax on his Info Wars program. But Jones and the Sandy 326 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:27.519 Hook families have been unable to agree on how to resolve the cases, leading 327 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:33.359 to Jones filing emotion Wednesday in US Bankruptcy Court in Houston, asking a judge 328 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:40.440 to convert his personal case from a Chapter eleven reorganization to a Chapter seven liquidation. 329 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.359 The debtor does not anticipate that a resolution may be reached with the other 330 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:52.240 parties in interest sufficient to confirm a chapter chapter eleven plan of reorganization that's in 331 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:57.599 quotes. Jones filing said another quote here, given that there is no reasonable 332 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:04.519 prospect of a successful reorganization, remaining in chapter eleven would occur, additional would 333 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:15.880 incur excuse me, additional administrative expenses without con excuse me, con committant. 334 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:21.160 Wow, Okay, benefit to the debtors of state. Okay, anyway, 335 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.559 I get what they're saying here, which is that they think it'll be there'll 336 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:30.559 be extra expenses incurred during the chapter eleven that'll make it harder for him to 337 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:37.559 pay off the one point five billion. Jones bankruptcy lawyers did not immediately reply 338 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.599 to Friday messages seeking comment. Christopher Mattie, a lawyer for the family, 339 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.720 said in a statement that Alex quote Alex Jones has hurt so many people. 340 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:51.559 The Connecticut families have fought for years to hold him responsible, no matter the 341 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:56.079 cost, at great personal peril. They're steadfast focused on meaningful accountability and not 342 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:02.039 just money. Is what has now brought him to the brink of justice in 343 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:08.359 the way that matters most end quote. Anyway, The point is that this 344 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:14.240 is this is a struggle and a tactic thing. They're not coming to reasonable 345 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:17.839 accommodations. He's dragging his feet apparently and saying, look, I need time 346 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:21.240 in order to reorganize the company in order to get this money out for you. 347 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:26.240 And they're basically saying that it's not working out, and they agree to 348 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.599 that, and he's saying, it's not working out. I have to liquefy 349 00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:36.000 in order to settle this. Now that immediately means that they may not receive 350 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.359 the one point five billion, first of all, and second of all, 351 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:44.000 this whole process of liquidation, even though it's supposed to be under you know, 352 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:45.839 I'm sure there's going to have to be somebody to supervise it, who 353 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.960 is like a third party arbitrators. Things like this are going to have to 354 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.640 come into play here, and you know those people get paid to so no 355 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.880 matter what, there's going to be extra costs in trying to figure out how 356 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.559 in the hell you get the money out of them and exactly where the money's 357 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.680 going, because I assure you, during every bankruptcy there's always an attempt to 358 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.160 you know, maybe turn around and not account for everything if they're going to 359 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.640 liquefy something, And that does mean if they're going to actually, you know, 360 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.640 liquidate assets. I mean, he's got a personal bankruptcy and his company. 361 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:25.839 Here they only mentioned free speech systems. Now, I don't know what 362 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.079 that all covers, or if that covers every entity. And there's another question, 363 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.079 right, are there other entities like for instance, Jones could have a 364 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:44.039 separate company that handles his manufacture and production and sales of his vitamin supplements. 365 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:49.640 That could be a separate company that actually deals with the info Wars brand, 366 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:53.880 right, and he could own both companies while they do business with each other. 367 00:26:55.079 --> 00:27:00.279 This is a possibility. There are people that work there that maybe they're 368 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:06.680 not actually employees of inpo Wars or Free Systems or whatever. They may be 369 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:11.440 independent contractors of sorts. Right, So there's a lot of things to sort 370 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.079 out who and what is attached to what, who still needs to be paid 371 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.839 And in this way, I think that this allows for a faster and cleaner 372 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:29.000 reorganization and simultaneously, again quite frankly, I mean I've seen this before. 373 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.680 The chapter eleven is it kind of has a strict definition. When you start 374 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.759 going into these other types of bankruptcies, some things get lost along the way. 375 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.359 Not every asset is always accounted for. I mean, for sure, 376 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.680 if there's you know, pieces of property and stuff that's registered with the state 377 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:53.359 and blah blah blah. He's got broadcast towers or buildings that you know are 378 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:59.240 owned by the broadcast company and stuff like that, that stuff is obviously on 379 00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:03.480 the block and fair market value, and then sales have to be done and 380 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.680 all this other stuff, and then money gets distributed from the results. But 381 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.079 other people get paid along the way. Like I said, the arbitrator is 382 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.160 the person that's going to come in and do the property evaluation. All those 383 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.839 things is going to require somebody. Even if they start selling off, you 384 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:25.480 know, a bulk small assets, right, they turn around and they put 385 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.400 certain things up pro auction. Let's just say there's a whole bunch of oh, 386 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.799 I don't know, memorabilia that can be put up pro auction. Well, 387 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.200 they'll have to pay somebody to auction it off and to liquidate it, 388 00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:40.720 just like they do with the state sales. Right. A lot of times 389 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.079 they pay somebody to come in, Look, here's grandpa's house full of stuff. 390 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.480 You get rid of this. We'll pay you to get rid of this 391 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.000 stuff. And you know you got to come back to us with some of 392 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.240 the money, but some of that money will belong to somebody who actually runs 393 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.960 an auction, takes it to the flea market whatever. Okay, there's a 394 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.799 whole lot of steps in this process still to be had, and apparently they 395 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:07.839 weren't making any progress, you know, up to this point. And now 396 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.920 his lawyers are going to agree. But again, remember what happened during the 397 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.640 trial where you know, Jones and his lawyers didn't file on time. You 398 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.200 know, he's doing the whole thing where he's supposed to shut the hell up, 399 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.240 he's broadcasting on his radio show and then driving to court after doing it, 400 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.000 and after sitting there literally calling what was it positive? He called him 401 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.519 retarded or something, well, not not quite retarded. He said that he 402 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.680 was on the spectrum. But either way, you know, he did all 403 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:40.759 kinds of things during that and you could definitely catch up on that with the 404 00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:45.720 HBO Max documentary series out there on Alex Jones. Now, I don't know, 405 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.559 I'm thinking to myself, this actually might be a better clean break for 406 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:53.359 him, and the reorganization is going to allow him to have another multimillion dollar 407 00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:00.960 operation up and running without any of the pass baggage that comes along with this 408 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:03.880 or any other thing that somebody might try and sue him over, because I 409 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.880 assure you other people decided to sue him too after the Sandy Hook Family's got 410 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:15.480 success. Maybe they weren't looking for one point five billion, but maybe you 411 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.200 got personal family members that he told lies about on his show, and even 412 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.400 if they're deceased, on behalf of their estate, on behalf of the harm 413 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:29.400 done to those families that he drew into conspiracy theories. Who knows what people 414 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.160 might attempt, and even just trying to fend off those lawsuits. Well, 415 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:41.119 if you terminate the entity that Alex Jones was working for, owning operating however 416 00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:45.079 you want to look at it, guess what clean break from all the past 417 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.920 bad behavior. Whether he made a death threat or he was screaming that Michelle 418 00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:55.720 Obama was a man or whatever. It doesn't matter because that's not that anymore. 419 00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.519 Then there's only the personal issues, and then you can talk about the 420 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.160 first of the man, because you know, individuals do have the right to 421 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.279 free speech that can't be you know, leaned on by the government. So 422 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.799 just saying this might actually be a very solid strategic move. I don't know. 423 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:17.160 BPTE, does any what I just said sound crazy to you? No, 424 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.920 I think I think, of of all the of all the options he's 425 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.640 got out there, going down the bankruptcy route probably going to allow him to 426 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.200 get a head quicker than if he had wrote out that chapter eleven trying to 427 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:37.799 reorganize and pay the debt. Now it's just going to get everything liquidated what's 428 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.160 left over. And I don't know if they would be able to go back 429 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.720 to court and sue him for the difference. But I know in bankruptcy when 430 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.640 everything is liquidated. Basically there's two things that you can't get written off in 431 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:56.279 a bankruptcy, and that's taxes and student loans. Because the government is now 432 00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.319 handling the student loans, those two items can't get rid of. So he 433 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:06.319 should be able to liquidate, walk away from the balance that is left, 434 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.200 and start over, which would put him way ahead of the game than trying 435 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.480 to drag out of chapter eleven. Chapter eleven, you've only got so many 436 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.839 years to get your reorganization done, yeah, moothly before it's written off. 437 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.640 Well, there you go, and then you have things that are settled where 438 00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:24.599 they'll turn around, you know, like very much when the Klan was sued 439 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.440 for that money and then they ended up giving up some buildings because they had 440 00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:35.799 some real estate. Okay, that was a settlement based on an evaluation. 441 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.240 I wonder if he's got a billion. I don't know. I mean, 442 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.920 that's a high figure. But real estate in Austin, Texas is one thing. 443 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.640 You know, that's like being in the Big d You're in Dallas. 444 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:51.240 Real estate, I don't care how big of I mean, if it's a 445 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:53.640 twenty x twenty foot plot on a corner somewhere, somebody will pay you a 446 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.799 million dollars for it. Well, there you go. Wonder what he's got 447 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.680 total assets, A little bit of studios, Yeah, I mean a little 448 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.519 bit of a commercial property, uh, in a nice high population area, 449 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.599 in a popular spot in this country. It doesn't take that much to get 450 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.400 up to a billion dollars at this point with the prices on real est it 451 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.160 does, especially in Austin, not only being the capital, but it's also 452 00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.839 you know, the liberal bastion of Texas. Every nut, you know, 453 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:29.880 every left wing nut and liberal cowboy happens to be there. It's a it 454 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.359 did. Austin's a different world from the rest of Texas. You've ever been 455 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.720 there? Yeah, But you see, if I told you I got a 456 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.839 couple of office buildings, you know, in Austin, Okay, and uh 457 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:46.240 and and maybe some other property where I own a uh, a broadcast tower 458 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.119 or whatever, it's actually not that big of a stretch right there. If 459 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:55.240 you take that stuff and other assets, intellectual properties, uh, maybe some 460 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.480 cash on hand even and all that together. I mean, I don't think 461 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.119 it would be that hard to come close. And if they do come relatively 462 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:07.079 close to the to the settlement figure, it might be accepted as a settlement 463 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:13.840 too. So I mean they're pretty much at the mercy of the bankruptcy. 464 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:22.239 I don't know how his is structured with it being I don't know how when 465 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.679 he filed the bankruptcy if it was connected to the civil action. I think 466 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:32.280 they're two totally separate things. But with the civil action they have the ability 467 00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.480 to say Okay, enough is enough, go collect. So if they go 468 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.639 to the trustees for the bankruptcy and say, hey, liquidated, we're tired 469 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.920 of fool around, tied away, and his lawyer says, yeah, we 470 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:47.000 want to convert to a seven and liquidated, it's not going to take longer 471 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.440 to do it. The longest thing it'll take is setting up the action. 472 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.480 I mean, they may have somebody already biting making an offer, you know, 473 00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:00.199 for any studio in that that he's got, but I don't know if 474 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:07.320 they could come back ley and sue him for the balance after everything is liquid 475 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.119 dated. Well see that's the other fund part that is wiped off. Yeah, 476 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.719 because that's it. Well, that's the other fun part here, is 477 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:19.039 like Clear Channel or iHeartRadio or somebody like that could come forward and literally make, 478 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.400 say, I don't know, a two and a half billion dollar offer, 479 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.000 and by the time he's done, he's actually able to pay off the 480 00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.239 lawsuit let go of his entity. Yeah, you could have someone You could 481 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.960 have someone like Glenn Beck when he started Mercury Radio and they decided to go 482 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.480 out and start the blaze, they had to go purchase studio area. So 483 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.440 you get an individual like him, it's ready to make a break from being 484 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.559 tied to some network or something like that, was to go out on his 485 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:57.880 own. They could conceivably make a business offer of that much, depending on 486 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.679 you know, what they're looking for in the way of studio and equipment and 487 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.159 our part know so yeah, I mean he could, Yeah, he could 488 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.440 probably settle a good chunk of it, if not all of it. Hey, 489 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:13.559 a partnership between say like Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck and they got their 490 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:20.679 brand new you know Becker Blaze. Beck is just outside of Dallas with his 491 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.719 operation. Yeah, I know that's I was on his TV network not too 492 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:30.079 long ago with the pat Oh god, I can't re pack Gray sorry pack 493 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.679 Gray show. And I was like, hey, you're you're right near Dallas. 494 00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.320 Why don't you come down when Lancer? Anyways, Look, we got 495 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.599 callers, and I want to get to them before they get frustrated. And 496 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.880 I don't know how long they've been on the line, but a few minutes 497 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.599 already, So I want to get them on. Maybe they got something to 498 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.440 say about this Alex Jones situation. Uh, And I'm gonna take you guys 499 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.360 in order. And I do see one of our regular friends here for sure, 500 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.199 and then I see an unknown up here. So let's get to who 501 00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:59.920 we can get to. And Uh, first up, Jimmy James, look 502 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:06.880 like to me, you're on the line, what's on your mind? Oh? 503 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.719 So many things, so many things. Hey, did you enjoy this 504 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:15.519 week? Yeah, did you enjoy this week's podcast, because I put down 505 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:22.840 three of them that I thought personally you would enjoy. I loved this week's 506 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:28.199 broadcast. I heard they were pretty much JFK specific right up my lane. 507 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.480 Yeah, that's all I did this week except for going on Richie Allen Show. 508 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.360 It wasn't the plan initially, but that's the way it turned out. 509 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:43.159 So I was, well, it's pretty cool. I heard you with that 510 00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:50.519 Australian guy, and I just heard you guys talk about Alex Jones. At 511 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.199 the end of the day, there are no hate words, there are no 512 00:37:53.440 --> 00:38:00.960 weapon words, and whether a million dollars or a billion dollars, these people 513 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:07.960 have constitutional rights and that's clearly excessive Baylor fines. What's your thought on that, 514 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.440 Well, that could be one way to look at it. But here's 515 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:17.360 the thing. Freedom of expression doesn't allow me to say threaten you, does 516 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.920 it. Freedom of expression doesn't allow me to do things that cause you harm 517 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:30.079 with my words. Right, So there's kind of this interesting area. See 518 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:37.320 right here, you have to demonstrate that that someone did a billion dollars worth 519 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:44.079 of that Alex Jones did a billion dollars worth of farm to that little hog. 520 00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:50.880 Shit, Well, well this wasn't about David Hogg, but if you're 521 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.639 thinking of the guy with the you know, the guns there in Florida and 522 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:59.119 all that. But but anyway, look, I'm not arguing for or against 523 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.159 the situation there. It's just that people ask my opinion. I think Alex 524 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:08.719 Jones has been repeatedly irresponsible as a broadcaster and completely unethical as an alleged journalist. 525 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:17.800 And I'm perfectly oh yes he did. No, it's his right to 526 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.719 be an imbecile. But he did claim to be a journalist. Uh and 527 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.480 he doesn't make that claim anymore, but he used to. And I do 528 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.559 remember here, I got the term citizen journalist from him, you know, 529 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.440 and he literally dispatched people out there. He called them his info warriors, 530 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.880 right. He absolutely encouraged gave things to people, you know, and all 531 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.960 kinds of stuff in order to encourage them to go out there and chase down 532 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:52.440 stories. There's a lot to the Alex Jones operation where he does use speech 533 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.880 to direct people to do things. Now, I'm not even saying that I 534 00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.480 watched that entire court case to know what was demonstrated and what wasn't u because 535 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.239 most of the time it was, you know, a bunch of arguing over 536 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.000 Are you sorry, mister Jones? Are you sorry, mister Jones? Do 537 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.159 you realize, you know, about thirty minutes ago you were just calling this 538 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:14.880 guy, you know, basically mentally deranged. You understand that, mister Jones. 539 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.239 I mean, that's the parts of the trial I got to see. 540 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.519 So I don't know all the evidence, but I do think it's a possibility 541 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.360 that you could incite people to do things, and you're responsible for that too, 542 00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:30.880 especially when you have a large platform, and even with a small platform, 543 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.000 you're not allowed to incite people to go ahead and do harm to others. 544 00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.159 I think that is a limitation, but that's just stretch. I think 545 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:45.639 you'd have to demonstrate that. I don't think Alex Jones harmed these people other 546 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.960 than talk about them, and they were already talking about themselves publicly. The 547 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:59.199 public figures well like me, I'm Jim James, I'm anominous well fair enough, 548 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:02.280 But anyway, there's a lot of argument to be had there. I 549 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:05.559 don't know what do you think, be Pete. I again, I don't 550 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.480 like being Friday's being anything about my opinion. Anyway, we just get the 551 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.719 conversation started with between you and I, and I'd rather hear from everybody else. 552 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.039 So what's your thoughts on this? Be Pete anything I want to I 553 00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.960 want to go around to another caller and then put Jimmy on hole bring him 554 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:23.320 back again later. Well, I mean, I've heard the arguments against you 555 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:30.719 know, excessive assessments in court cases, as you know, beyond the pale. 556 00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:36.719 I don't know that we're gonna I mean, even Trump's got that complaint 557 00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:43.840 on the Carroll case, so I don't know how that. I wouldn't even 558 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.280 begin to guess how that would be treated in an appeals court, but he 559 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.880 has rights to make it. Yeah, well, especially when you look at 560 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:57.440 that case. I mean basically, oh, yes I was sexually assaulted, 561 00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.000 but I can't tell you what year. I can't tell you exactly, you 562 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.840 know, even narrow it down to a season. And I think I was 563 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.480 wearing a dress, but come to find out, you know, the dress 564 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.559 I was wearing that I said I was wearing didn't come out till several years 565 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:14.760 down the road, so you know, it's all kind of vague. And 566 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.800 and yes, he he raped me, but you know, the jury said 567 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.400 nah. In Rapia I still don't understand the sexual assault thing though. I've 568 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.400 never understood that they said he specifically did not rape. I mean, that 569 00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.039 was one of the things on the jury questionnaire. He did not rape her, 570 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:37.000 but he was found guilty of sexual assault, So did he grab her 571 00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:43.440 by those judge. That's because the judge took it upon himself to write a 572 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:49.440 summary judgment. He downgraded a crime in a civil trial, which isn't even 573 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:53.159 possible. It's a joke, I know. I mean that one never has 574 00:42:53.239 --> 00:43:00.920 made sense to me. But to come back with that kind of of of 575 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:05.440 award, it seems excessive. And I don't know, I've not looked into 576 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:09.840 how cases like that of excessive awards. You know, some states have caps 577 00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.800 on awards for civil judgments and things like that. So you get one that's 578 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:19.159 up there in the billions, I don't know what your remedy is to go 579 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.199 and try to get it reduced or to get it to be determined to be 580 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.840 excessive. So, you know, I don't know. You look at some 581 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.960 of these awards with these pharmaceutical companies and things like that, and well fines 582 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.719 and awards, and you're looking at billions and billions of dollars, But personally, 583 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:37.519 I don't know. Is there a limit so we have a limit to 584 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.000 how much you can sue somebody for? Well here it is. Is there 585 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.320 a limit? Okay? But is there a limit to the amount of damage 586 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.000 you did? What is the amount of damage you did? I mean? 587 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:53.000 And if we assign a numerica, allow you to it today? Right? 588 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.440 If you look at that, though, you look at the damage done to 589 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:02.079 E. J. Carroll, how much damage should she suffer? I don't 590 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.679 see where she suffered any sing I talked about it. I don't even know 591 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.119 on for these years and it's not inhibited her in any way. Okay, 592 00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.360 she's not lost money, damaged professionally, I don't know. Getting way the 593 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.519 hell away from the point that I was about to try to make because the 594 00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:21.800 E. G. And Carroll thing's not even in my mind. You brought 595 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.599 up the drug companies, and I'm thinking to myself the amount of damage done 596 00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.199 by people like that When it comes to the drug companies having these things against 597 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.760 them, I have no problem with it because A they made billions of dollars 598 00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.679 and B you know, if they were doing something destructively and making billions, 599 00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:40.920 Uh, that's one thing. But The other thing is that you know, 600 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.320 a cap on a settlement today might not make sense in five years, depending 601 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.599 on inflation, especially the way it's rolling. You know. So you know, 602 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.719 here here we go. What what are we talking about when it comes 603 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.280 to these sorts of damages. Anyways, I don't put Jimmy on hold. 604 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.440 And you know, lastly, I'll tell you this if it is any point 605 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.199 Jones had, you know, lawyers that were being directed to actually, you 606 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.559 know, make a proper defense and attempt to comply with the court's directions, 607 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.599 you might have had a completely different outcomes, sort of like Fetzer, where 608 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:17.000 he basically kept trying to run the same crap through the court, and you 609 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.039 know, and the court's telling him, look, you can't do this, 610 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:23.079 this is not evidence. Stop trying to present it. And the other thing 611 00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.360 with Fetzer, of course, and this is an example that I used for 612 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.599 both of them, is that you know what they then you keep violating the 613 00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:34.920 stuff that the judge directs you to do. Now, a normal person, 614 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.480 even if you're going for a traffic ticket, try and defy a judge. 615 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.800 Do that, go ahead, you'll wind up locked up. A good one 616 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:49.440 for you. On Fetzer, he apparently petitioned to the Supreme Court for fraud 617 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:53.360 in his original case where it was a summary judgment. Yeah, because he 618 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.920 had no evidence, he had nothing to enter, he had no defense, 619 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.480 nothing. Yeah, so the judge issues summary judgment. So he files a 620 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:08.079 petition to the Supreme Court. And I mean he's talking nWo conspiracy to overthrow 621 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:15.360 the world in his petition. I mean, I noticed it was withdrawn just 622 00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.960 a little bit later. Let me find the link. Yeah, go ahead, 623 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.920 go ahead and grab that. But my point is that he clearly is 624 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:29.000 doing stuff that he's already been directed not to do. I you know, 625 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.760 remember the fact that he's got that one million, seven thousand dollars. The 626 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.800 reason why he's got the seven thousand dollars he was in contempt. He was 627 00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:40.000 told not to share certain evidence beyond the people that need to see it. 628 00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.199 And he goes, well, I have a video expert, and they went, 629 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.599 yeah, that's precisely the kind of crap we told you not to do. 630 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.079 Oh yeah see. And that's that's something that he brought out in his 631 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:53.280 petition to the Supreme Court, that there was a second Leonard poster that came 632 00:46:53.360 --> 00:47:00.679 to court and testified against him. Yeah, okay, great, Yeah, 633 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.599 I've got the link here. I'll put it in the room the second Oswald 634 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.480 excuse me, Posner, right, okay, sure, why not? Anyways, 635 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.440 let's get to this other caller, because I got another one and it 636 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.719 looks like it's a it's anonymous, but I got an area code that says 637 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.000 three to five to two, So I got the area code for you, 638 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:22.159 but I don't know who you are. Welcome to the show and speak your 639 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.639 mind now. It's Chris. It's been about a month since we talked last. 640 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.000 But Chris, how you doing, Chris. I'm glad to hear from 641 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.840 you. I'm glad to hear from anybody that might have a new voice on 642 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.599 here for sure, and we've heard from you a few times. I'd encourage 643 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:45.280 anybody who's listening right now live if you're hearing us again on the seventh day, 644 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:47.079 right it is the seventh day, Yeah, the seventh day of June 645 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.239 twenty twenty four, and you're hearing us about ten minutes to nine pm Eastern. 646 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:59.920 We're live. Otherwise it's a recorded podcast. Join us at the call 647 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:01.920 in number if you don't mind. Sorry, I was kind of choking there 648 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:07.960 for a sec. Anyways, three one nine, five two seven, five 649 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.679 zero one six three one nine, five two seven five zero one six is 650 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.519 the number to call and get on the line like Jimmy James and Christad Are 651 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.079 you laughing at me? Or are you laughing at Fetcher's? Oh no, 652 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.039 I'm sorry, I forgot I was on here. I just looked at this. 653 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.840 Fenzer filed this petition with the Supreme Court on the twenty seventh day of 654 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:34.719 February. Okay, he filed his petition to withdraw on the sixth of March. 655 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.119 So he even make it a week. Oh please, okay, you 656 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.159 say, but here we go again. He filed a petition just to say 657 00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:46.920 he filed a petition, right. And the funny thing is he's still continuing 658 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.760 on with his I don't know who listens to him, but he's still got 659 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.079 his podcasts out there. I don't think he gets invited on so many programs 660 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.800 because people are afraid they might get sued or have you know one of their 661 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.400 broadcasts hauled into court. Uh you know they're gonna they're gonna turn around and 662 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:07.599 uh you know they're gonna subpoena my YouTube channel. H please, you know. 663 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:13.440 But anyway, Fetzer completely and also Jones's lawyers both neither one of them 664 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:16.719 if Fetzer didn't have a lawyer, but anyway, he kept trying to bring 665 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.480 in a lawyer that they disallowed. You. He did eventually end up with 666 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.880 a lawyer. Well, okay, eventually the last couple hearings. But but 667 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.719 that's the funny thing, right, is that during most of the process, 668 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:36.679 when somebody could have offered some sort of resistance, these guys didn't follow directions, 669 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.440 didn't make their filings on time, kept trying to enter things into evidence 670 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.960 that they were told were not going to be accepted by the court, and 671 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.000 did basically, like I said, everything that if you tried to do it 672 00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:51.800 in a traffic ticket case, they would throw you the hell out of there 673 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.519 and tell you, look, o pay your ticket, get out of my 674 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.719 face. I think part of that, though, is they honestly thought that 675 00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.400 they had first amendments that would protect him on this. No matter what, 676 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.639 you will tell that to lord judge in the black robe anytime you go into 677 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.239 a courtroom because he don't want to hear it. I'm telling you now, 678 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:14.559 I got dressed down by a judge when I wasn't even involved in the hearing. 679 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.800 I happened to be in the audience one time, you know, waiting 680 00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.599 as somebody that I was concerned with had a hearing before that judge during that 681 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:27.440 session, and this guy got aggravated because of the way I was sitting and 682 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:31.519 demanded that I stand up and explain why I was like slouching in his courtroom 683 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.159 because my back was hurting me. And I'm like, uh okay, Like 684 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.840 I was totally stunned, and a guy threatened to throw me into a cell. 685 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:44.679 I wasn't even involved in the case. These guys, they run their 686 00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:49.920 courtroom again as somebody who was related to me in some way was involved in 687 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.760 a case. But they not only threatened to throw me, like you know, 688 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.440 to basically put me in jail for contempt for twenty four hours, but 689 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:00.480 also rule against the person in front of him based on the fact that I 690 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:07.480 was sitting in a funny position in the audience in a courtroom. This is 691 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:09.440 the way things. I know. These other guys who you know, never 692 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:13.400 have to show up for hearings and have never dealt with the court system before 693 00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.280 or never have been under scrutiny, don't understand this. But once you walk 694 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.079 in there, lord judge, is in charge of everything that occurs there. 695 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.960 The guy in the black robe runs it okay, and they do what they 696 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.280 want. It doesn't matter what your constitution says. It doesn't matter what you 697 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:36.679 think you're entitled to. The judge is the judge. And by the way, 698 00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:40.239 it's actually the word judge in some languages is interchangeable with the word god. 699 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.199 If you think I'm small, g but still check it out and see 700 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:50.840 if I'm lying anyways, Chris, I'm sorry I'm sitting here talking about this 701 00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.199 stuff, but I find it so aggravating when people are stunned by the way 702 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.880 the courts behave. Oh don't you know the courts are corrupt? Chuck? 703 00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.599 Yes, I do, and I know that these I know these the these 704 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.639 tyrants in the black robe run their fiefdom. And it happens to be that 705 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.000 little room that you end up in because you were unfortunate enough to get caught 706 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.920 up in the system. And if you think it's bad during these uh, 707 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.599 you know, civil hearings, try the uncivil hearings or excuse me, criminal 708 00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:28.840 court hearings. Uh. I've received hostility from the prosecuting attorney interviewing me as 709 00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.800 a juror panel. Oh yeah, I'm an well, because that's an officer 710 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.679 of the court, Chris. But that's that's an office. I say, 711 00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.519 that's an officer of the court, Chris. That guy is entitled because of 712 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:44.440 the power, you know, given to the guy in the black robe or 713 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:49.440 woman. Sometimes either way, the one in the black robe is running it. 714 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.519 And that person giving you trouble there when they were trying to put you 715 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.480 on a jury. Well, he's an officer of the court or she is 716 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.639 an officer of the court, doesn't matter. And by the way, I'm 717 00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.880 not counting anything other than here she because I'm not politically correct. But the 718 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:09.480 point is, that's the way it rolls. Sorry, you're supposed to change 719 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.320 your personality. Oh well, you know, but anyway, here it is. 720 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.119 I cannot believe that people are stunned by the idea that once you step 721 00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:25.519 into the star chamber, that's your ass. Okay, they run and control 722 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.599 it. You answer to them. You don't answer properly, they will punish 723 00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.400 you every which way they can. And that's the way it rolls. And 724 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.480 I had to learn this. Jeez. When was the first time I was 725 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:40.840 before a judge really in an open court. I was probably about eleven years 726 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:49.119 old and no mercy for the child either. Okay, believe me, I 727 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.400 probably deserve to be in court at eleven. I probably deserved to be in 728 00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.920 court. Many times I didn't go to court, but not the point today. 729 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.679 I'm saying that even when I went in for minor things, even when 730 00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:02.360 I was the victim in a case, if I did something that aggravated somebody 731 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.199 in that black robe, oh boy, did I learn real quick you better 732 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:13.440 follow directions. And uh. I even had a judge turn around and get 733 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:19.840 really angry, uh and start to want to punish me. Uh, until 734 00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.559 the the lawyer that was there as an officer of the court had to point 735 00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.639 out to the guy that I was incapable, like he thought I was being 736 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.239 resistant to something because he held something up and I did not, do you 737 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:36.880 see this? And I said no, uh and and he was like, 738 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.119 you're you're basically thinking I was being a smart ass. And uh. The 739 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:45.760 the the attorney prosecuting me had to point out that, uh, you're, 740 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:52.960 judge, this kid is like visually impaired. He just answered you, honestly, 741 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.880 he does not see what you're trying to show him. Okay, Like 742 00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:00.800 you know, I I of judge get mad at me one time. We 743 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.760 used to when I was with the Environmental Age, So we used to do 744 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:12.000 jurseyics on damn inspections. And this judge owned property up in the mountains. 745 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.960 He had a getaway house up there at a beautiful place. But he also 746 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:20.400 had a huge pond, well lake really on his property. And Chris, 747 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.320 well, again, we'll get back to you real quick. By the way, 748 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.960 We'll let BP tell his story and then I promise I'll shut up and 749 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:25.920 give you the floor. Sorry, go ahead, be pete. So he 750 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.239 had this gale. Yeah, yeah, we had to go do our annual 751 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.079 inspections on it because there was a state road down below it, so it 752 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.000 was a high hazard. Dam if the thing blew out and someone who's going 753 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.400 down a road, he could kill him with a breachway going down through there. 754 00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:44.440 So I sent the letter, but I sent it to mister so and 755 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.920 so I didn't put the title honorable because the guy is a judge. And 756 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.400 I sent the letter out to him saying, we've inspected you know you're damn 757 00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.519 you've got some deficiencies here here in the year, We'll give you a year 758 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:00.320 to get them all straightened. Out. No, it's just a tip cool 759 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.360 inspection letter that we send out every year. Nothing big, no fine, 760 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:07.639 no, nothing like that. Well I get about two weeks later, I 761 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.559 get a phone call from this guy and he starts chewing my butt. You 762 00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:15.840 sent this to mister so and so, so and so I am referred to 763 00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.599 as honorable and he starts going into this. I said, sir, let 764 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:21.880 me let me cut you off there just for a second. He goes what 765 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.480 I said, Well, you know everything that we do is a matter of 766 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:30.920 public record. Would you want one of these Winston the Salem Journal reporters nosing 767 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:37.119 through our enforcement logs and everything and deficiency logs to find that a judge has 768 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.719 a dam that needs to be fixed because it's a high hazard. And there 769 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:44.599 was dead silence on the phone. He comes back. He says, I, 770 00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.360 thank you for your inspection letter. Have a good day. Click yeah, 771 00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.400 and clunk it up because you was seved my butt for a good twenty 772 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:55.159 minutes. How I was disrespectful and not honoring his position as a judge. 773 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:59.519 And I'm sitting here thinking, dude, you know you're lucky we're not out 774 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.119 in the parking discussing this shit because i'd make you look bad. But he 775 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:06.599 once he realized that he was being an ass, he just hung up the 776 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.199 phone. Yeah, well from him again, a little bit of common sense 777 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.880 there all of a sudden, g you know what if I put the honor 778 00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.840 and by the way, the honorable doesn't necessarily mean specifically a judge either. 779 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:21.559 I've heard of this where somebody said, you're supposed to note the fact that 780 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.119 I am a judge. I earned that, you know, or whatever, 781 00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:28.480 And it's amazing to me. I mean, it's it's almost like the attitude 782 00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.599 of when you get somebody's military rank wrong. Okay, if you're not in 783 00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:37.519 the military, what the hell do I know the difference between lieutenant and you 784 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.440 know who cares? I don't know. I'm not going to call you lieutenant. 785 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:45.239 You're not part of my hierarchy. Okay, sorry, I know you 786 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:51.679 earned your rank or whatever, but dude, you know, like, no, 787 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:52.960 I'm not going to remember that. As a matter of fact, the 788 00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:59.320 fact that I'm saying mister is clearly a sign of respect. So see, 789 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:01.679 that's the problem. In the military. You got warrant officers and they're called 790 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.719 misters, and no noboddy was to be associated be called mister. You know 791 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.679 you're in there the sergeants call you by your last name. You know, 792 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.239 well, I have to tell first sergeant. One time he hollered out at 793 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.519 me. Ry. He hollers my name and go walking over. I said, 794 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.400 sir, you know or I said first sergeant. I said, no 795 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.840 offense, but you can call me by my first name Private. He just 796 00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.000 started laughing. He goes, yeah, I guess that respect stuffs supposed to 797 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:31.960 go both ways in it in that interesting but yeah, and you earned that 798 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:37.400 too, even if it's PFC Private first class, right, that is all 799 00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:42.920 higher rank than the regular privates above man. But I'm just saying I'm just 800 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.840 all right anyway, put all that aside. I just I find it funny. 801 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.760 But you know, even when you're a former mayor, if you were 802 00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:53.280 formerly the head of you know, something like that, Uh, they should 803 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:59.119 technically refer to you as the honorable ever after. You know, even in 804 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.159 the case of somebody he was appointed attorney general, technically speaking by title, 805 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.239 you can pretty much call them general for the rest of their life even though 806 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:12.719 they were the attorney general. All right, But nonetheless, and people getting 807 00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.440 bent out of shape about this, I mean, it's all about entitlement and 808 00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.880 title and privilege and man and yeah, some of these people will do this 809 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.400 outside of the courtroom even but watch, I mean, keep your head low 810 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.920 when they start swinging in their own house, because boy, they'll tell you 811 00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:32.880 this is you know, I not only I am the court, you know. 812 00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.360 I know I've heard that phrase before. I am the court, right, 813 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.920 Yeah, you are the court. And in fact, in documents you'll 814 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.559 see the court said this, the court did this, and it's the judge 815 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.840 you did it. Yeah, so they are the court. They are the 816 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.519 judge. And you know what, if there ain't no jury there, then 817 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:55.039 the jury don't count. So here you go judge, jury and possibly executioner, 818 00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:59.280 especially if that guy gets a hold of you later. I've seen some 819 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:04.199 of these guys take on grudges with people if you do embarrass them, which 820 01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.280 is too funny because you made an excellent, you know, common sense sort 821 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.280 of point to that guy. Anyway, enough out of us, Chris. 822 01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.119 I know I kept you holding there for a minute, but I had to 823 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.400 let be Pete tell his story. And I'm sorry. I find it frustrating 824 01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:21.079 that people don't understand that, you know, most of us common folk, 825 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.079 we end up in a courtroom. Uh, you know, you just try 826 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:28.559 and get out of there with your with your three piece sets still intact. 827 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:30.599 If you're a guy like me, I mean, that's all you want is 828 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:35.920 can I get out of here with as minimal damage and expense as possible? 829 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:40.360 And can I try to comport myself in such a way that I won't you 830 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:45.480 know, draw any attention to myself or incur the wrath of you know, 831 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:52.079 the lord of the court. For God's sake. Anyways, I've been there 832 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:58.079 personally myself too many times that i'd like to list. Okay, yes, 833 01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:02.519 I I understand where you're coming from. I mean it, seriously, Chris, 834 01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:06.119 even with a traffic ticket, right, I mean, just you know, 835 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.119 just give me a little bit of like, I don't know, what 836 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:15.079 do we call that when you agree with somebody and you say to them, 837 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:19.079 yeah, yeah, I understand. What is that called? Anyway, whatever 838 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:22.760 it is, See if you can relate to this, if you go in 839 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.039 there in a courtroom and you even try and tell them, look, I 840 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:29.960 have a witness I want to present, and if they don't want to hear 841 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.880 from that witness, or they don't care, or they're like yes, so 842 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.360 what that's your brother in law. Whatever reason they decide not to accept your 843 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.280 witness. When you go in there and try and defend yourself again, it 844 01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.679 could be a traffic violation. Look, I got somebody right here says there's 845 01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:46.840 no way that I did this, even though the cop said I did it. 846 01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:51.119 I'm telling you, if a judge don't want to hear it, it 847 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:54.000 will not get heard. And God help you if you try and bring in 848 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:59.239 a photograph or anything else. I mean, I understand the rules of evidence. 849 01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:01.400 To enter something and evidence it needs to be, you know, verifiable 850 01:02:01.480 --> 01:02:06.119 and accepted by the court. But if it ain't, it ain't. And 851 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.440 by the way, they'll accept you speaking or not speaking, or giving them 852 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:13.079 paper or not giving them paper, and everything else. They are in control 853 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.000 of every step of it. And I say again, if you're there for 854 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:20.440 shoplifting, if you're for uh, you know, if you're there for trespassing, 855 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:22.159 you know, the very simple things that happen sometimes, you know, 856 01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:28.079 just in the course of somebody trying to I don't know, live, uh, 857 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:32.679 traffic violation, parking ticket, could be anything. These guys are the 858 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:37.239 lords of their domain, and as far as they're concerned, the domain is 859 01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:42.440 their court, so anyway, do not offend I get it. Let me 860 01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.400 say this. I mean you could go to court. I mean, and 861 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:50.159 you know, judges are humans just like the rest of us. So you 862 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.400 know, if they were fighting with their spouse the night before, if uh, 863 01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.760 you know, you caught them on are you just caught them in a 864 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.480 bad mood for a second in the morning, you know, or the previous 865 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.119 person that you know. I mean, you know how it works when you 866 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:08.239 go to court. I'm here. They decide whichever direction the around the alphabet 867 01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:13.360 to call each person up to defend themselves for each specific case. Right, 868 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:19.559 I mean, someone can piss off the judge and you know he someone pisses 869 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.119 off their judge, Well, then now now they're in event, they could 870 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:24.159 be in a bad mood if they don't know how to you know, be 871 01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:30.119 professional in the profession. Oh yeah, it's really all no I saw. 872 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:35.400 Yeah, yes, it's all located by the judge and you know not all 873 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:40.679 that comes down to the legal analysis of the case by case situation. Right, 874 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.800 I was sitting in the municipal court. I was sitting in the municipal 875 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.960 court in Neptune City, which is approximately or at least used to be one 876 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.159 square mile of a town next to the town of Neptune, New Jersey. 877 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:58.679 Okay, Neptune City is not Neptune anyway. They have their own separate court, 878 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:00.519 they have their own separate police, all that stuff. You know, 879 01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:05.159 They're their own entity all right. Anyway, although they share a zip code 880 01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:11.840 for some reason. Anyhow, Neptune City they're there. I mean, I 881 01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:14.559 mean, you know, the the uh what do they call that, the 882 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.039 uh, oh my god, the municipal court. Okay, And so this 883 01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.920 is not a major judge of any kind. Anyhow, I saw this guy 884 01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.880 rip into a couple of people over some simple dumb stuff. I mean, 885 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.559 I was there because I had been caught, uh, you know, drinking 886 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:34.039 and I was not of drinking age, so that's why I was there. 887 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:40.119 And uh, I was there with another guy who was eighteen, which technically 888 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.440 you know, he's an adult, but he's not twenty one. So this 889 01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:45.800 is what I was there for. Anyways, he was ripping into people for 890 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:54.159 you know, domestic disturbances, uh, noise, ordnance violations, brutal brutal 891 01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:58.159 stuff. I mean, like lecturing people about how they you know, don't 892 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.360 know how to behave in adults. Say, society and stuff like this. 893 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.639 Anyways, I'm leaving the court and I'm thinking to myself, damn, that's 894 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:05.440 you know, kind of rough. I mean, this is all rough. 895 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:11.320 I mean, I just took my fine, pleaded guilty, pleaded guilty, 896 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:15.320 and then just gently offered a piece of paper to that judge that I had 897 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:19.159 already been charged in another court, in the county court, with the same 898 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.920 offense, but to a separate charge. I pleaded guilty and then said these 899 01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.039 other charges were actually already handled in the county court. And I don't know 900 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.519 if you want to just you know, add on to that or whatever. 901 01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:38.519 But anyways, I'm walking out, and one of the lawyers who was there 902 01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:44.280 before me and stayed there after me, says to the guy I was with, 903 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.960 who was representing my interests because I was not of age to represent my 904 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:53.199 own interests in a court. And the lawyer representing the guy I told you 905 01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.760 about that I was there with it was eighteen. I was a little younger 906 01:05:55.800 --> 01:06:00.039 than eighteen. The thing is, it was hilarious because he turns around and 907 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.880 says, you know what the problem is, right, and like we all 908 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.480 stopped and looked at him in the hallway on our way out, he goes, 909 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:09.239 Yeah, this guy just lost a lot of money in the stock market 910 01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:13.719 this morning. That's what the problem is in there. Okay. So I 911 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.039 don't know how he knew that. I don't know whose lawyer he was, 912 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.079 I don't know anything else about it. But apparently this guy was there all 913 01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:26.880 day representing more than one client. Okay, And yeah, municipal court, 914 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.960 this guy lost money in the stock market. That's why you're all getting yelled 915 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.159 at, and you know, publicly on the record, you're being lectured by 916 01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:36.440 somebody about how to behave as an adult, even though me and the other 917 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.679 guy weren't. You know, well, the other guy was an adult, 918 01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.159 but I wasn't even an adult. I didn't get the you're not an adult 919 01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:48.559 lecture. Adults did. People in their twenties, thirties, forties got the 920 01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.960 lecture and I did not. Anyway, just wanted to illustrate that. But 921 01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.360 Chris, please continue, I mean, anything else you want to offer, 922 01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.599 or do you want to talk about this some more, It's all up to 923 01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.440 you. I'll shut up now. I did actually want to tie to the 924 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:08.000 Parkland if we can, If we can go back to May of twenty twenty 925 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.800 two. There was another school shooting that took place, and that was Uvalde, 926 01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.679 okay, and that was one that they just recently settled out. It 927 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.599 was settled out in the court system. You know. The city was sued 928 01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:24.400 all right, but there were a total of three hundred and seventy six officers 929 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:30.880 that responded to the shooting. Okay, there were nineteen nineteen people killed. 930 01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:35.280 They're not shooting. The shooter was literally allowed, you know, despite the 931 01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:42.679 heavy police presence, right, okay, the shooter was allowed to just do 932 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.719 his thing for seventy seven minutes. I mean, this is a I mean, 933 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:48.039 you can look this article up. I mean, you know, the 934 01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:53.320 CNN article coming to dam how much we can trust that at this stand point, 935 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:58.400 but whatever, we can just believe that the facts are fact. Hopefully 936 01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:03.119 they are. But just given all those facts, well plenty plenty of information, 937 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:09.599 the city was sued for two million dollars for the you know, right, 938 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:15.079 that was paid up family. Two million dollars that was paid out to 939 01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.239 the family. There was just shut I mean once again, three hundred and 940 01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:25.239 seventy six law enforcements officers responded to that that, uh, that's shooting and 941 01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:30.319 just sat idly by for seventy seventy minutes. I will repeat that just so 942 01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.800 you know. No one barged in, no one. You know I meant 943 01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:43.760 this, but all those nineteen kids lives worth their their lives were worth nineteen 944 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:49.239 million dollars between or not sorry, two million dollars between Jesus Christ something I 945 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:54.960 figure though, sorry, sorry, but it was Yeah, well in fairness, 946 01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:59.239 Yeah, okay, I've got to pulled up this bear was thing for 947 01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.800 once. And you know that this is actually pertinent to the point that I 948 01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:06.199 was trying to make in terms of the Jones. Sure, sure, if 949 01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:15.359 you need a minute, yeah good, I won't I promise you, no, 950 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:17.039 no problem. Do you want to continue now or you want to wait 951 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:19.359 a minute and I'll just you know, because I don't want dead air, 952 01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:24.399 so I'll just give him give me one minute, if you would, if 953 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.119 you wouldn't money, yeah, no problem, take a minute and interrupt me 954 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:30.880 when you're ready. It's an interesting question, but to me, it's a 955 01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:35.840 big difference between Ubaldi and the Alex Jones situation because on the one hand, 956 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:43.600 you're talking about police on the ground, and there is the idea of trying 957 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:46.039 to react to a circumstance and you know, were they right, were they 958 01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:50.000 wrong? Did they do? You know? That is a completely separate question 959 01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:55.560 from in the case. The only thing that connects him is we're talking about 960 01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:01.560 school shootings, because otherwise the Alex Jones action is a about how he encouraged 961 01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:08.359 others and caused harm to people after the fact, not during a shooting, 962 01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.920 not because of poor reaction. Nobody in the world would blame Alex Jones for 963 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:16.000 a school shooting that I know of, uh, because he never encouraged anybody 964 01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:21.119 to do that. That's but two million dollars to the city was seen for 965 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:27.840 Yeah, for the inaccurate response of nearly four hundred officers. I mean, 966 01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:30.079 I'm we can just go ahead and round it up to four hundred. That's 967 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:36.039 pretty well. But that's at worst, that's a poor decision. If you 968 01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:40.119 want to go with the idea that the cops did the wrong thing, that's 969 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:45.920 a poor decision by police in an active circumstance, which to me is an 970 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:51.600 entirely different world. Who's more responsible for loss of life? Would it be 971 01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:57.960 the law enforcement officers or fucking out Stone a loss of life? And if 972 01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:00.159 you looked to the details of Parkland, right, I'm sorry, but I 973 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:03.119 mean, if you really get into the details, the thick of it, 974 01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:08.000 Yeah, I mean there's a lot of a lot of questions to be raised 975 01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:11.960 about the you know, what really happened. I mean I could go into 976 01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:14.920 further. It tells feel me to sound even more crazy. No, no, 977 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:15.920 no, I don't want you to sound crazy. I'm just trying to 978 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:18.880 answer something here. Is that Look, if you want to boil it down 979 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:25.880 to who's responsible for a loss of life, obviously the police had the ability 980 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.600 to be responsible for a loss of life in the shooting circumstance. Alex Jones 981 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:34.560 doesn't. So it's a completely different thing. It is about the malicious nature 982 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:40.680 of what he does afterwards, and that is intentional as opposed to Look, 983 01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:45.479 I went to work one day and the shooting situation came up and we made 984 01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.760 some bad choices here that wound up with people losing their lives. To me, 985 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:54.000 that's a completely different animal one from the other. I know what you're 986 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:58.760 saying is that it almost seems like the value of you know, more than 987 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:01.239 a dozen kids over here is two million dollars, and the value of this 988 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:05.199 thing Alex Jones does is a billion dollars. But it's not about a dollars 989 01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:12.079 to lives. It doesn't boil down like that. It's just a quick part 990 01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.119 of the people. Can I I'll shut up after this. Good? You 991 01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.960 understand, like part of people getting paid out from my lawsuit were actually FBI 992 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:26.239 agents that were investigated a lawsuits. Oh, they claimed that they received you 993 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:30.680 know, they were you know, they were damaged you know, by the 994 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:35.359 by the their investigation, you know, and by Alic Jones claiming that it 995 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:39.479 was a fallse flag. Oh, part of this was FBI. No, 996 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:43.079 I wasn't aware that there were FBI agents involved in that. No. But 997 01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.800 the point again is that to me, this is just what I'm saying my 998 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.680 opinion here. And I hate to do it, but you kind of asked, 999 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:55.239 you're you're comparing these two things, and to me, you can't because 1000 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.760 they're very, very different circumstances. Because on the one hand, like I 1001 01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.119 said, said, there is you know, guys trying to do their job. 1002 01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:06.920 Now if you want to put the worst thing on them, and it 1003 01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.640 almost sounds like and I know this is going to sound crazy coming out of 1004 01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:14.640 my mouth because I'm never the guy to defend cops. But here's the thing. 1005 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:16.880 You give a guy a badge and a gun, and let's assume that 1006 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.960 he's not a scumbag who just likes to beat people up and steal off of 1007 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:25.840 drug dealers and get paid off to turn their head. If that's not that 1008 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.720 guy, and let's just assume for argument's sake, he goes to work, 1009 01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.600 and a bunch of them go to work trying to do their job. A 1010 01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:39.359 circumstance is foisted upon them by day to day life, which is this school 1011 01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:45.079 shooting. This isn't something that they actively decided to involve themselves in. This 1012 01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:50.680 is what came up in their professional lives. And let me throw this in 1013 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:56.920 there. That's settlement, that two million dollars settlement that was nineteen families sued 1014 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:04.640 the city of So the two million is from the city. They're also suing 1015 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:11.439 ninety two officers with the Texas Department of Public Safety, the school district, 1016 01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:16.520 and individual employees. And you may also see them go after each individual because 1017 01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:21.800 there were officers from different jurisdictions. There were state police, there was local 1018 01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:27.039 police, there were so they're also going after each one of those agencies as 1019 01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:30.840 well. So this thing could really snowball and become a lot more than two 1020 01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:35.159 million. Yeah, so what you're telling me is this is just a small 1021 01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:42.800 well different actions. Sorry, I'm not trying to talk about different directions. 1022 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:46.439 I mean, what's the largest pharmaceutic lawsuits that ever occurred in the human history? 1023 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:50.079 Have a three point two billion dollars and I think it was glasshow Smith 1024 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:54.880 Kline okay, was the one responsor of that, and who the hell knows? 1025 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.920 You know what the official death co was from the amount of people that 1026 01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:03.479 they killed off by not properly testing products. Blah blah blah. But I 1027 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:08.600 mean, is that really But I mean, if we can just there's a 1028 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:12.279 certain level we got to compare apples, you know, apples apples, the 1029 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.000 apples oranges, however you want to paraphrase it. But pleas in my opinion, 1030 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:19.880 you know what I mean, there's no I okay, I mean, 1031 01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.640 yeah, I'm not listen, I'm not an Outstone fan. And honestly, 1032 01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.600 I mean, there's also another avenue you can take this conversation down. It's 1033 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:30.920 like, maybe Alex Jones is a he's an agent, you know, he's 1034 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.720 he could be to have ties with the CIA, massade blah blah blah. 1035 01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:38.399 You know, whether you understand what that means. You understand what that means. 1036 01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:43.760 But I mean there's something to be said for the fact that he's still 1037 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:50.479 on air. Okay, he received pretty much one of the largest private lawsuits 1038 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:55.880 in the history of mankind, if I if I'm not mistaken, and then 1039 01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.199 yet he's still he's still continuing his operations. He's still telling me everything that 1040 01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.600 he wants to tell you and what they're going to strip away a studios okay, 1041 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:05.760 So I mean, can he not do what I'm doing right now, 1042 01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:11.920 which is just talking to myself on Okay, so you know, put out 1043 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.000 rumble videos, you know, all right, well, let me know when 1044 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.960 you're done viewership, you know, is it really going to affect him that 1045 01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:21.439 much financially? And then he can still put the same promo codes and all 1046 01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:25.560 this stuff. But there's something to be said. I mean, if if 1047 01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:29.680 they really wanted them to be penniless and shirtless, you know, he would 1048 01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:31.880 he would be in that position. But so far, you know, he 1049 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:35.399 still seems to existing perfectly fine. Well that was the thing, okay, 1050 01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:41.159 sure, So well, anyway, Chris, the whole thing started with us 1051 01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.000 just reporting that they're reorganizing the bankruptcy which you know, and they're saying that, 1052 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:50.199 uh, you know, his lawyers and the family's lawyers are now saying 1053 01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:56.800 all together that they're not able to do this through through the chapter eleven, 1054 01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:00.279 and they're going to the chapter seven, okay, which will change the way 1055 01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:02.720 things are done. And that's that. Now. Is this one of the 1056 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:09.159 largest lawsuits in human history? And no, not even close financially, and 1057 01:17:09.359 --> 01:17:15.319 especially if you just for inflation at different points. I have the Glaxo Smith 1058 01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:20.279 Klein lawsuit in twenty twelve as the largest drug settlement that I could find quickly 1059 01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:26.960 with a couple of searches, which was let's see, three billion dollars altogether. 1060 01:17:27.039 --> 01:17:30.479 One billion of it was criminal, two billion civil. Anyways, that 1061 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:33.439 was one of the largest ones. But a bunch of them are commensurate with 1062 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:36.479 that. I mean, Pfizer has one of two point three, Johnson and 1063 01:17:36.600 --> 01:17:44.920 Johnson at two point two, Abbott excuse me, Laboratories at one point five, 1064 01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.199 Eli Lilly at one point four, you know, and then we drop 1065 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.720 off according to this one list I have in front of me, but there 1066 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:56.840 are more, and you know, these things range all over the place, 1067 01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:01.680 all right, So, but it's not largest largest settlement was two hundred and 1068 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:06.199 sixty billion, and that was the Phillip Morse, R. J. Reynolds, 1069 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:10.000 Brown and Williams and the lower Large settlement. Well, yeah, that's 1070 01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:15.880 the Tobacco Company Combo settlement, right. So that's where the forty six states 1071 01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:19.880 attorney generals, five US territories, and the nation's fourth largest attack just went 1072 01:18:19.960 --> 01:18:23.600 after them. So two hundred and six billion, right, And what year 1073 01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:31.079 was that? BP ninety eight? Okay, So in nineteen ninety eight dollars? 1074 01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:36.000 Okay, how much are we talking about today? So nineteen ninety eight, 1075 01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.479 how much money is that? Again? Two hundred and six did you 1076 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:43.520 say? Yeah? Two hundred and six billion, two hundred and six billion 1077 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:47.760 dollars, okay. And I'm just doing a quick little you know, enter 1078 01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:56.279 it into my search engine in today's dollars, okay, and let's just see 1079 01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:00.399 if it gives me a rough conversion somewhere value of nineteen ninety eight dollars inflation 1080 01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:06.159 calendar, okay. So yeah, well here's the fun part. Ninety two 1081 01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:12.840 point three six percent increase, okay. So what you're telling me is that 1082 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:18.279 settlement right there is somewhere in the neighborhood of four hundred billion dollars in today's 1083 01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:24.560 money, but it was two hundred and six billion. Then hell of a 1084 01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:29.840 lawsuit there. And then now can we argue that they knowingly did damage to 1085 01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.720 the public? Can we? Or can we not? You gotta look at 1086 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.199 all the evidence there, some of it you'd have to agree with, probably 1087 01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:41.239 just there's no way not to and et cetera. But look, it's not 1088 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.960 dollars to death, okay in this Uvalde situation. I mean, one thing 1089 01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:48.760 is that, Yeah, it's one aspect of the case versus the other people. 1090 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:53.319 They're gonna sue the other defendants that are gonna come up or are coming 1091 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:57.359 up or have come up elsewhere. You know, it's the city. And 1092 01:19:57.399 --> 01:19:59.920 if you sue the city for two hundred billion dollars, by the way, 1093 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.279 they don't have two hundred billion dollars. So you know, there's the other 1094 01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:06.319 thing. What do you do now I own the city of Yuvaldi? Again, 1095 01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:11.760 like when they sue insurance companies pay out in those cases all a lot 1096 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.399 of it. Yeah, but do they have much? But do they have 1097 01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:17.680 two hundred billion dollars in insurance? You know, do they even have enough 1098 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:23.199 to pay that? Out? Right? You know, if somebody sues. 1099 01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:26.000 It's just like those you know, they used to call it, what was 1100 01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:32.920 it a lawsuit lawsuit immunity or litigation immunity they used to say about certain people. 1101 01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:35.000 It's like, yeah, I can sit and sue a guy for millions 1102 01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:40.359 of dollars, I'm never going to collect it. You know, Look, 1103 01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.560 you would never collect your two hundred billion if you sued the city of Yuvaldi 1104 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.520 for two hundred billion, I'm certain. But you know, maybe your grandchildren 1105 01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:51.119 could collect all that eventually. I don't know, you know, if they 1106 01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:55.560 keep paying it over time. And that's another thing they do with these settlements, 1107 01:20:55.600 --> 01:20:58.560 by the way, where it's like, well it's this much, so 1108 01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:00.840 over time it'll be paid this. And they also have to put money on 1109 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:09.279 deposit and let it collect interest and on and on and on. But what's 1110 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.760 fascinating to me more than anything is that, no, we're not talking about 1111 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:17.479 a specific dollars to deaths ratio. Again, I think it's a wholly different 1112 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:23.439 circumstance of like, you know, how many people are involved, how much 1113 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:27.159 damage could be done, how many incidents are we talking about, And I 1114 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:30.279 think there's a big difference between and I'm not saying you shouldn't sue cops, 1115 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:33.960 not at all. But you know, there are other people out there that, 1116 01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:36.479 by the way, argue that they should not only be given you know, 1117 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:43.239 complete immunity in certain circumstances, but in all circumstances, like when they 1118 01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:47.199 get that badge immediately there's just immunity from prosecution. And if you don't believe 1119 01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:54.079 that, you can find any bunch of people online, bunch of politicians, 1120 01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:59.119 people of power, everybody from Donald Trump to others have kind of spoken up 1121 01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:01.359 on this. I mean, Trump was talking about giving full indemnity to police 1122 01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:05.439 and things like that a few years ago, about how what we should do 1123 01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:11.880 is make sure that they can't be brought up on any prosecutions. So you 1124 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:14.680 know, now, am I taking words out of context? Maybe, But 1125 01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.079 in or out of context, you'll find people arguing on both sides of that 1126 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:23.680 issue. I promise you that you know the people that argue generally for COMPETI 1127 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.920 community starting to see. You know, for a long time, police officers 1128 01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:32.840 were covered on the municipal immunity or sovereign immunity right if they were if something 1129 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:36.960 happened in their line of work while they were doing their job. But we 1130 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.880 hear the past ten twenty years, you started to see those immunities being taken 1131 01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.800 away. I mean, look at George Floyd case. I mean those individuals 1132 01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.800 were charged with murder, they had no immunity. Well, so you're starting 1133 01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:55.680 to see changes in some courts when it comes to municipal immunity being just blanket. 1134 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:58.840 In certain cases, they'll go through and pick out certain aspects of the 1135 01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:04.680 case and go he went beyond that municipal expectation. He is now Joe Q 1136 01:23:04.920 --> 01:23:10.239 public. He's getting sued and is legal. And look, even though I 1137 01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:14.600 am standard the guy who usually comes out and says, look, preservation of 1138 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:18.760 life is the priority and should be supreme at all times. You know what, 1139 01:23:19.159 --> 01:23:27.640 I also am not so so insane or so liberal that I don't understand 1140 01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:32.079 that. You know, cops are generally human beings and they might want to 1141 01:23:32.079 --> 01:23:36.479 go home too, and you gotta give them some leeway if they're doing their 1142 01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:43.039 job correctly, cause things are just going to go wrong too. So again 1143 01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:46.560 I say, it's a different circumstance from somebody who's in the midst of doing 1144 01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:55.560 their job screws it up or does something incorrectly or inaccurately or just wrong one 1145 01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:00.279 way or another. And somebody else who takes it upon themselves to go out 1146 01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:03.319 and involve themselves in things, that is a different circumstance, you know, 1147 01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:10.079 just saying. I mean, look, the guy who is working at his 1148 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:15.520 own little corner store is being held up by somebody who pulls a gun on 1149 01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:19.000 him. If that guy pulls a gun out from under the counter and shoots 1150 01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:26.920 that son of a bitch dead, gotta say it's a different circumstance from that 1151 01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:32.239 guy just chose somebody randomly off the street and shot him number one, number 1152 01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.560 two. Does that mean that that's the amount of force they should have used. 1153 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:42.239 Well, all circumstances do vary. Do I say that people have the 1154 01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:45.960 right to defend themselves, absolutely, But you have the right to defend yourself 1155 01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:50.880 not just murder somebody that you feel threatened by automatically. So there's a lot 1156 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:56.520 to this and it's not always a simple answer, And that uvalde thing I 1157 01:24:56.600 --> 01:25:00.239 gotta say. You know, you first got to give the consideration that this 1158 01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:02.680 is not guys who went out and decided to get involved in an active shooter 1159 01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:05.840 situation. It was part of their job that day. Now, if they 1160 01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:14.079 did their job incorrectly and raises to a point of criminal negligence. That's a 1161 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:18.159 possibility, but is it an absolute certainty. Not always. It does seem 1162 01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.520 outrageous that it took that long to respond. I'm not even saying that I 1163 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:27.159 side with the cops or against him on this matter of fact. I think 1164 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.760 I made it a huge point not to side one way or the other. 1165 01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:34.640 But I'm not usually the guy who defaults deciding with the cops anyway. Anyhow, 1166 01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:39.600 complex situation. Again, these things are very different, and I would 1167 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.199 say the cop who shows up and either tries or doesn't try to do his 1168 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:48.119 job is far different from what Alex Jones involved himself in one way or another, 1169 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:51.880 and it's going to be judged differently. And also, you know, 1170 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:57.119 it's always weird looking at the dollar amount applied to human life. I mean, 1171 01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:00.159 I've seen lawsuits where people have gotten you you know, seven, eight, 1172 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:04.119 ten million dollars because somebody was killed by the police. They get that 1173 01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:09.800 from a city. I've seen other cases though, where you know, forty 1174 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.640 to fifty grand is handed to somebody to pretty much just get the lawsuit gotten 1175 01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:17.720 rid of, and somebody died in that case too. You see small amounts 1176 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:21.279 of settlements end up and quite frankly, a lot of these massive lawsuits you 1177 01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:26.319 hear about in the billions and millions and everything else against these larger corporations. 1178 01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:31.880 Quite often the most successful ones are what class action lawsuits where there's a whole 1179 01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:36.000 huge list of people that you know, they even solicit come you might be 1180 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:42.680 entitled to a settlement. Huge lists of people that wind up or their you 1181 01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:48.439 know, u inheritors, their executors, their survivors, wind up with very 1182 01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:53.079 small amounts of money and they were a human life lost in that action as 1183 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.760 well, But that was the only way they were going to see any sort 1184 01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.319 of relief from the people that were involved in the death of their loved one. 1185 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:04.680 How right or wrong is that in your mind? Look, I leave 1186 01:27:04.720 --> 01:27:10.840 it open for the consideration and hopefully you and everybody else out there, uh 1187 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.399 uh not not you be pete, But I do mean that you and everybody 1188 01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:16.159 else out there, all of them being listeners, whether you're calling or not, 1189 01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:20.800 anyway, by all means call in, change the direction of the conversation, 1190 01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:24.239 add to this one, whatever you want to do. If not, 1191 01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:27.000 I'll get back around to the other callers. But before I do any of 1192 01:27:27.079 --> 01:27:30.960 that. I'm going to take a break, So the Friday Night open mic 1193 01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:33.680 is still open for about another half hour, and you can be a part 1194 01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:38.239 of it. Three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six 1195 01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:42.079 three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I don't want to 1196 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:45.760 talk about my opinion on this or anything else. B Pete is here. 1197 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:48.720 We have Jimmy James on the line and Chris on the line, but you 1198 01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:53.239 could join them, or you could send me a message by a skype to 1199 01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:56.960 Charles dot o'ceelly ask me to I will call you into the show, but 1200 01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:01.399 if not, you can join it any time you want before we're done broadcasting 1201 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:08.279 at three one nine five two seven five zero one six and the o'chelly effect, 1202 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:41.119 Go ahead, call it in. The truth about the Day of Hay 1203 01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.119 assassination. Right, Well, what do you want to know Judy Baker's wild 1204 01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:47.920 claim Oswald girlfriends you knew Ruby and Barry handswer weapons. Really, I imagine 1205 01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:50.479 I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't make me a wagon, 1206 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:55.920 but okay, building and I'm trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy. 1207 01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:59.359 Come on now, has a real effort on the day of pay assassination booking 1208 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:03.800 to reclaim, go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her own words. 1209 01:29:03.960 --> 01:29:08.640 You'll get the results for a digital copy of a book where Walt Brown 1210 01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:13.800 utilizes her own words and the known evidence in the case to get at well 1211 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:17.439 a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith Ary Baker in her own 1212 01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:23.439 words from the author himself, signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown 1213 01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:28.359 at k I A s JFK at aol dot com. It's a fun book 1214 01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:33.199 and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith very Baker in her 1215 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:39.920 own words O Chili dot com. Uncle, do you remember that time when 1216 01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:45.560 Benjamin Fulford said that an Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninja's to take 1217 01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:49.880 down the Illuminati? Oh that's interesting, Yeah in the clutroon. Yeah did 1218 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:54.119 that ever work out too good? No? It didn't, did it? 1219 01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:59.079 But here on o'chelly dot com Radio network, things work out a bit bitter, 1220 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:05.520 don't they? 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His assassination took place in the context of 1243 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:02.479 the Cold War and the rise of the national security state. Before World War 1244 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:06.600 II, the United States was a continental republic. In the decade that followed, 1245 01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:12.319 it became an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted 1246 01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:15.000 to invade Cuba, but knew that there were short range missiles on the island 1247 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:19.520 arn't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers. 1248 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:24.760 Their invasion could have led to a Third World War, and they wanted 1249 01:32:24.800 --> 01:32:29.439 to go to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why and 1250 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:32.239 will show you what President Kennedy was up against. For more information, the 1251 01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:38.640 Warstate dot com. This is James Corvett COORBA report dot com and you're listening 1252 01:32:38.680 --> 01:33:43.439 to the Ocelly Affected o'celly dot com and it's watch yourself to see why you 1253 01:33:43.640 --> 01:37:00.279 want yours and listen to must st At talking Something str com Sex I Shall 1254 01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:05.640 get Feede is sponsored by Wallstreet Window dot com and listeners like you now and 1255 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:14.640 now most nigrated night and in our medium check o'chelly. Second and final segment 1256 01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:17.880 of the Friday Night open Mic is live at the moment, so there's about 1257 01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:25.920 like say, twenty something minutes or twenty minutes anyhow until the ten pm marker 1258 01:37:26.119 --> 01:37:30.840 on the clock when the Age of Transitions begins with Aaron Franz. And then 1259 01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:35.399 of course at eleven pm Eastern it will be Uncle the podcast broadcast live on 1260 01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:40.840 ocelly dot com from the facilities of ocelly dot com Radio and all that good 1261 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:44.479 stuff till then you got a little bit of time to join us if you're 1262 01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:46.840 hearing this live. If you're hearing the podcast, you need a time machine. 1263 01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:51.880 But every Friday night from eight to ten pm at least we do two 1264 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:57.199 hours of whatever it is that you bring up. When you call in three 1265 01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:00.119 one nine five two seven five zero one six, that's three one nine, 1266 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:04.520 five, two seven, five zero one six. Thus far, we've gotten 1267 01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:09.319 Jimmy James, We've gotten Chris, and we do have an anonymous caller that 1268 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:12.399 may or may not want to jump in at the end of the show for 1269 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:17.279 some reason. And the funny thing is, uh, I don't know why. 1270 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:19.840 I have no idea, but we never know what the hell is going 1271 01:38:19.880 --> 01:38:24.520 to happen on Friday nights. It's open forum and you can join us any 1272 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.359 of these Friday nights. Now. This week we did a couple of JFK 1273 01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:31.279 related broadcasts. I didn't mean to pile them all together, but that's the 1274 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:35.000 way it went. We got an update from Jefferson Morley about the lawsuit against 1275 01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:42.359 the Biden administration regarding the JFK Records Collection Act, which means that that'll continue 1276 01:38:42.399 --> 01:38:46.199 on no matter who's in the executive branch. And we got an update from 1277 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:49.920 doctor David Mantick, who is going to be in Dallas, but might not 1278 01:38:50.039 --> 01:38:54.520 be at the same conference as me. I'm not sure yet. Anyway, 1279 01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:57.720 we got those two. And who else did we hear from this week? 1280 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:01.479 Oh right, Larry Hancock. And we complete the series on Oswald in Mexico 1281 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:08.079 City this week and talked about Larry's upcoming book on Lee Harvey Oswald. Now 1282 01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:12.399 again with that and the broadcast to Richie Allen and a couple of missed guests 1283 01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:15.239 this week who didn't show up when they were supposed to. This week was 1284 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:19.199 not supposed to be JFK dedicated, but turned out that way outside of when 1285 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:24.000 I went on the Richie Allen Show. Who is by the way, Jimmy 1286 01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:29.920 James said he was an Australian guy. Just to clarify, Richie Allen broadcasts 1287 01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:34.439 and is one of the largest non BBC broadcasters, actually the largest non BBC 1288 01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:40.399 talk radio guy for sure in Ireland, just to keep that straight. So 1289 01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:44.319 he broadcasts on regular radio in Ireland and we hear him on the internet here. 1290 01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:47.680 AnyWho it is, what it is, be pete. Anything we need 1291 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:53.239 to get to before I get back to the existing callers and maybe somebody dropping 1292 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:57.800 an announcement at the end of the show tonight. No, I mean, 1293 01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:00.199 we're short for time, so go ahead and let's get back to our callers. 1294 01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:03.520 You got it, you got it, But who knows what will come 1295 01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:08.520 up any given day. So Jimmy James, you heard a lot while you 1296 01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.880 were sitting on hold anything you want to add, or would you like to 1297 01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:15.800 bring up one other subject, drop something new before the clock runs out tonight. 1298 01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:26.520 Well, I think Chris was correct and quite astute and his observation that 1299 01:40:26.720 --> 01:40:33.399 these finds against Fetzer and whatever his name is, aj No, I'm not, 1300 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:41.760 sir. Clearly they're desperate, disparate. I don't believe in equity, 1301 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:47.600 but I do believe in equality, whether you're a judge and a jury, 1302 01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:59.640 just a normal American, a JFK researcher. Just remember, try to be 1303 01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:08.840 where Remember the first commandment God gave to a judge and doudonomy low to cure 1304 01:41:09.079 --> 01:41:16.359 panine. Lo behold to cure panine. See no faces, behold, see 1305 01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:23.000 no faces. This is why, Lady Justice, where's the blindfold? We 1306 01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:27.319 gotta be fair. I mean, my god, this country's going to fall 1307 01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:34.119 apart with these political parties and everyone fighting internally. It's got to end eventually, 1308 01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:41.239 one way or another. It's going to I hope people can start being 1309 01:41:41.399 --> 01:41:45.840 fair with each other. Well, you know, Jimmy, I object to 1310 01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:49.760 one thing you said only, and that is that you know you said you 1311 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:54.520 don't believe in equity, but you do believe in equality. Or was it 1312 01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:59.680 the other way around. My problem is this, I think every living breathing 1313 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.760 person, you know, every living breathing man or woman, is supposed to 1314 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:08.640 be equal under the law. Now, you know, just like an animal 1315 01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:13.279 farm. I think some animals are more equal than others. And that's the 1316 01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.720 problem here, right. The idea of privilege, and the idea of some 1317 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:23.960 people being immune when they should not be and others being unfairly punished is a 1318 01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:31.760 constant theme, and I think you can agree. You like the cops going 1319 01:42:31.880 --> 01:42:40.640 into the fire. I mean, yes, no one above the law and 1320 01:42:40.760 --> 01:42:45.079 no one below the laws a nice bumper sticker, but it's not reality, 1321 01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.840 unfortunately, because we ask some people to do things that are far more dangerous 1322 01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:58.640 or other circumstances. So, yes, some people, indeed, there is 1323 01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:05.239 no not everyone is treated equally under the law, nor should they be. 1324 01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:11.760 Should our troops be prosecuted for things that we send them to do overseas? 1325 01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:17.720 Of course not so. The law is very, very very complicated, unduly 1326 01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:24.520 so in my opinion. I'm sorry, Chuck, I didn't mean to even 1327 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:28.399 interrupt you. Sorry, No, no problem at all, Jimmy, But 1328 01:43:28.520 --> 01:43:30.000 you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna just put you on hold, because it 1329 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:36.680 is again one of those perfect things where almost everybody can agree that there should 1330 01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:43.000 be fair treatment. And fair treatment does have a little something to do with 1331 01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:46.279 nobody being above the law and nobody being beneath it. The problem is that 1332 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:56.119 people have different ideas about exactly where it is you qualify to not be beneath 1333 01:43:56.319 --> 01:43:59.640 the law. And I'll tell you something else. It's really funny, really 1334 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.520 quick before I go back to Chris. Something that has bothered me this week, 1335 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:04.479 and I didn't get to discuss it on the show, and I'm not 1336 01:44:04.520 --> 01:44:08.039 going to do the read I was going to do or any of that, 1337 01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:12.880 but just something that has been bothering me all week because of this circumstance where, 1338 01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:16.319 you know, there was a guy that was beaten to death not too 1339 01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:21.399 far from where I live, and I was watching the way people were handling 1340 01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:27.079 that news and how they were commenting on it, and it was very typical 1341 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:34.359 to the biggest problem that I see philosophically, intellectually, spiritually among us in 1342 01:44:34.560 --> 01:44:39.439 the Western world, here among us in what we used to call America, 1343 01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:45.720 and that is that at certain points, people kind of take an attitude that 1344 01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:49.800 certain people no longer have the right to breathe because of some of their actions. 1345 01:44:50.399 --> 01:44:58.039 They're they're they're expendable, they are disposable, they are they don't count. 1346 01:44:58.359 --> 01:45:00.840 It doesn't matter. So you know, well, I tell you a 1347 01:45:00.920 --> 01:45:02.600 guy got beaten to death. You might say, well, that's a terrible 1348 01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:06.079 criminal thing. But all of a sudden, it gets a little excusable, 1349 01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:13.000 it gets a little acceptable if that guy wasn't a stellar citizen according to other 1350 01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.079 people's standards. Not saying that the guy was a criminal, but let's just 1351 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.399 say he used some drugs. Let's just say he lived on the street. 1352 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:23.920 Let's just say he had a mental illness. I don't know, all of 1353 01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:28.039 a sudden, some people seem to have this idea that, well, it's 1354 01:45:28.079 --> 01:45:31.960 actually okay to abuse or murder people like that because they're damaged. They're not 1355 01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:38.159 upstanding citizens like me, So it's okay. It's not as big a deal. 1356 01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:43.000 It's sort of like a shoplifting thing. If you beat a homeless guy 1357 01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:46.720 or a mental patient or a drug addict to death, I mean, really, 1358 01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:50.479 you might have actually done society of favor. And I'm watching this unfold 1359 01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:58.079 and people grown people deciding that they're passing judgment on exactly what the value of 1360 01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:03.079 somebody's life was when they were beaten death in the street. Bothers me a 1361 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:08.000 lot. Anyway, I leave it at that, and I'll get back to 1362 01:46:08.079 --> 01:46:12.199 Chris now and if anybody else wants to join in, our anonymous caller as 1363 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.119 apparently decided they're not going to do their announcement tonight for a personal reason, 1364 01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.319 but does tell me they will appear tomorrow or excuse me, next week, 1365 01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:25.039 next week on the show. So Chris back to you. We've got a 1366 01:46:25.119 --> 01:46:28.479 little more than ten minutes left. So anything you want to throw on the 1367 01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:33.199 table, go for it. Well I'll start with I'm gonna throw a little 1368 01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:43.840 kudos to Jimmy James appreciate it. I mean, if I can offer any 1369 01:46:44.520 --> 01:46:48.000 type of final words, it's going to be stuck. Couponant protests or proteins 1370 01:46:48.079 --> 01:46:51.279 are not protests. Well, stuck up on that tips you can find some 1371 01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:57.119 good sour stuff, but protein wise, stuck a funny beef and you're chicken 1372 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:02.039 because the powers that be are going after it with the bird flu crap. 1373 01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:09.359 Oh yeah, I think that we're getting we're getting ready to see a real 1374 01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:15.560 war being waste on you know, healthy foods. Make sure everybody's talking up 1375 01:47:15.840 --> 01:47:20.000 on stuff if they can as a financial thing, phrase it, package it 1376 01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:26.800 approperly. Just stuck up because I think we're coming. We're getting some here 1377 01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:34.560 territory, and that's like what we're seeing stay is conveniently mimicking what we saw 1378 01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:40.600 in COVID. You know, I'm in damn are tot. The thing that 1379 01:47:40.680 --> 01:47:43.560 bothers me about this, Chris, is that, you know what bothers me 1380 01:47:43.640 --> 01:47:45.800 about this, Chris, is that we're getting squeezed on the price right now, 1381 01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:51.239 and there's going to be a justification to make it completely unaffordable for people 1382 01:47:51.319 --> 01:47:55.880 to eat real food very very shortly here. I mean you can see it 1383 01:47:55.960 --> 01:47:59.880 coming like a train running down the tracks. And I talked about this, 1384 01:48:00.039 --> 01:48:02.079 I think last week in a couple of places, not on my show, 1385 01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.600 I mean maybe on my show, but on another show. I went on 1386 01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:09.359 and I said, you know what, what's bothering me. What's really, 1387 01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:13.920 you know, giving me trouble on a daily basis is the inability to feed 1388 01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:18.039 my family with the resources I have. And I'm thinking, and I'm hearing 1389 01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:21.840 from a lot of people that we're all having more and more trouble doing that 1390 01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:28.960 and that is a problem. And it is exactly the kind of thing that 1391 01:48:29.079 --> 01:48:32.920 if we have, you know, some other new disease issue entered into the 1392 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:36.239 matrix, it's going to jack up the price, make things even more rare, 1393 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:40.960 make things more problematic. I say, if you can find a way 1394 01:48:41.039 --> 01:48:46.039 to feed your family and inform others about how to do it, and it's 1395 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:50.439 real food, get it out there, share it, do it. I 1396 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:55.880 said before, work with you know people locally if you can do your best, 1397 01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.960 because I think we all need to batten down the hatches. So I 1398 01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:03.399 think it's great advice. Well, let me say this one last thing. 1399 01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:09.239 Sure, I really appreciate you giving me the platform to just have this discussion, 1400 01:49:09.680 --> 01:49:14.520 and I mean I love being part of it. So just you know, 1401 01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.760 keep it up. You did an awesome job. Check. I don't 1402 01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:21.920 no one tells you that, but you did a great job. Let's just 1403 01:49:23.039 --> 01:49:27.479 keep it up, my friend. Well, thank you, Chris, Thank 1404 01:49:27.520 --> 01:49:30.880 you Chris. And it wouldn't be possible without support and participation from you guys 1405 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:34.399 out there, and I do appreciate every last little bit of it. Again, 1406 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:39.359 you know, I'll talk more about the Lanswer thing as we approach Lancer, 1407 01:49:40.039 --> 01:49:43.239 but you know. In the meantime, Yeah, we do this with 1408 01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:45.680 your support and your participation. You the listener. Whether you decide to call 1409 01:49:45.760 --> 01:49:49.680 in or not, doesn't matter. But I do appreciate more and more calls. 1410 01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:53.560 I wish there were more. I wish there were more so I could 1411 01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:57.800 hear more things, different ideas and from different people all the time. I 1412 01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:00.000 would love that if we could do it even more. Matter of fact, 1413 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:03.439 if we get more callers, I'll make this segment, this show longer on 1414 01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:10.760 Fridays, started earlier, get more stuff done, plan some things, we'll 1415 01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:14.760 do more with it. If you guys really want to do this now, 1416 01:50:14.840 --> 01:50:18.279 I'm seeing some signs that maybe you don't. But anyway, I'm also seeing 1417 01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:24.760 signs that everybody's struggling because people are dropping off of memberships Patreon, nobody's making 1418 01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:29.000 donations. You know, I realize it's a tough time for everybody. So 1419 01:50:30.520 --> 01:50:31.960 if you want to keep this going, I'll tell you two things. One 1420 01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.239 thing is, if you like the Friday night open mic and the open platform 1421 01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:39.960 by all means, encourage it, participate in it, and I will expand 1422 01:50:40.039 --> 01:50:44.560 it. The other thing is you want to see the radio station online and 1423 01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:48.039 the shows continue to expand and all that stuff and me be able to continue 1424 01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:51.840 to do this. It helps if you chip in as well. There's a 1425 01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:56.960 donate Buttonetochelli dot com. That's all I'm gonna say about it. Either you 1426 01:50:57.079 --> 01:51:00.840 support this stuff or it will go away. That's the way the world really 1427 01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:03.319 does work usually. I mean, unless you have a giant war chest and 1428 01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:06.439 people want to deliver bars of gold to you in a box so that you 1429 01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:12.479 can do their bidding, which there are people that have that sort of delivery 1430 01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:17.560 service. But anyway, we already had discussions tonight about allegations about people and 1431 01:51:17.640 --> 01:51:21.079 things like that, but we'll leave it alone. It is what it is. 1432 01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:25.079 But if you don't like what's being fed to you buy the giant corporate 1433 01:51:25.159 --> 01:51:29.199 media. If you don't like factory farming of your information as well as your 1434 01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:31.880 food, you need to find solutions for it. And one of those solutions 1435 01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:36.560 is to support the independent, support the local farmers, support your local businesses, 1436 01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:42.279 support your neighbors, support each other as best you can take care of 1437 01:51:42.399 --> 01:51:45.479 one another, because if you're waiting for the government or some savior to show 1438 01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:49.880 up, doesn't matter if it's Orange Jesus or if it's some cult leader or 1439 01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:54.359 if it's you know, the great libuu bleeding hearts that are out there that 1440 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:58.000 want to help everybody. If you're waiting for everybody else to help you, 1441 01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:01.079 it's not going to happen. So the change you want to see be the 1442 01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:06.359 effect that you want to make. Affect others and speak out, reach out 1443 01:52:06.520 --> 01:52:11.079 and do what you can. And if we don't support each other, trust 1444 01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:14.319 me, nobody is going to just randomly show up to do it for us. 1445 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:18.239 We need to take action if we want to make action occur. That 1446 01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:23.000 simple anyway, be Pete. I give you the final couple of minutes here 1447 01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:26.640 to say whatever you want on the Friday night open mic. It's all yours 1448 01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:30.159 brother. Now, just like to say thanks for everybody that called in and 1449 01:52:31.359 --> 01:52:34.119 like you mentioned earlier, go to a shelly dot com you hit the donate 1450 01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:39.399 button. Every little bit helps and just plan to get another week in and 1451 01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:43.680 looking forward to next week we'll do it again. And a quick note, 1452 01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:48.279 there was three people that wrote to me and apologized for dropping their level of 1453 01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:55.479 support for not being able to maintain their memberships. Clearly I can't do this 1454 01:52:55.600 --> 01:53:00.199 for everybody, but all three of you guys are going to continue to have 1455 01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:03.560 your memberships and your access and the zip folders which will go out this weekend. 1456 01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:09.640 I realize you dropped your amounts. I realize that, well there was 1457 01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:15.239 a straight up cancelation because you're trying to survive. But I'm gonna just keep 1458 01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:17.880 you on the list anyway and keep your memberships open even though you cancel them, 1459 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:24.319 okay, because we're all in this together, all right now. I 1460 01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:29.119 can't do that for everybody, but I'm gonna do that for people that actually 1461 01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:32.000 care and are still interested. And you know, I can't afford to do 1462 01:53:32.039 --> 01:53:34.640 it for everybody, because if nobody supports me, we're gonna be gone. 1463 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:40.279 It's not simple. This does cost money to do. And uh, you 1464 01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:44.479 know what, there's a lot of guys out there receiving huge donations constantly from 1465 01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:48.159 people that don't necessarily need it, that are doing okay, that already have 1466 01:53:48.520 --> 01:53:53.119 huge sponsorships and everything else, and for some reason, people are supporting them. 1467 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:56.239 I mean, look, I'll take a hint. If nobody wants to 1468 01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:58.840 support it, maybe I gotta find something else to do with my time. 1469 01:53:58.920 --> 01:54:03.079 I get it. But in the meantime, and at least all the way 1470 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.520 up to the end of the year. This year, we're going to do 1471 01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:12.199 this and again I'm at least trying to survive to November so that we can, 1472 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.520 you know, still have an active platform and everything. And I go 1473 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:17.680 to Dallas, which by the way, I can't afford to do if it 1474 01:54:17.840 --> 01:54:21.640 wasn't for the support of somebody else willing to put a bill and somebody else 1475 01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:26.199 willing to fit another bill. Guess what, I'm not able to go. 1476 01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.119 So you know, it's not like I have any spare change here. Every 1477 01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:33.920 single donation counts, and whether it's to pay for a phone or streaming service, 1478 01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:38.479 whatever, these things that we need to maintain in order to keep doing 1479 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:44.119 this. That's what it is. So hopefully you guys got something out of 1480 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:46.640 this show, and I hope you enjoy. Coming up next, Aaron Franz 1481 01:54:46.680 --> 01:54:51.359 will be Live with the Age of Transitions, followed by Uncle the Podcast. 1482 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:56.039 So with that, I want to thank b Pete for putting up with me 1483 01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:58.600 all the time. Now, this has been a couple of years where we 1484 01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:03.119 barely miss shows ever doing this Friday night thing, and he actually started on 1485 01:55:03.239 --> 01:55:08.840 what Wednesdays or something like that. Anyway, either way, we're trying to 1486 01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:14.199 keep this platform open for stuff that is not typical, that is not like 1487 01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:16.039 the other call in shows, that is not like the stuff you get on 1488 01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:19.319 your regular radio, because look, you want that. There's plenty of them 1489 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:23.960 out there, plenty of options for you. This is supposed to be something 1490 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:29.239 completely different, and you, with your participation by calling in, by commenting, 1491 01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:32.640 by sending messages, by rating the podcast, all of that stuff, 1492 01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:36.640 and also making a small donation here or there, or signing up for membership, 1493 01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:43.239 etc. Etc. All of those things tell us and show us and 1494 01:55:43.399 --> 01:55:46.359 make it possible for something different to be out here. So you want it, 1495 01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:51.319 you make it happen or don't. It's up to you. And unfortunately 1496 01:55:51.439 --> 01:55:55.039 that's the way a lot of things are in life. So I say again, 1497 01:55:55.159 --> 01:55:58.439 try to take care of one another as best you can. All your 1498 01:55:58.520 --> 01:56:01.720 charity should begin at home. What if we don't support each other. I'm 1499 01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:05.159 telling you right now there is no savior about to come and do it for 1500 01:56:05.359 --> 01:56:11.199 us. We have to do this for each other. We are conspiratorial animals 1501 01:56:11.239 --> 01:56:16.479 by nature, and we need to breathe together so that we don't suffocate a 1502 01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:21.640 part. I am merely o'chelly. All of you are indeed the effect. 1503 01:56:23.840 --> 01:57:20.840 Good night, well, important information about the November in Dallas Lancer conference coming 1504 01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:25.119 up. Just to let you know. Virtual tickets are now available for in 1505 01:57:25.279 --> 01:57:29.880 person and for the online both or one or the other if you like. 1506 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:33.079 There's also a student price of thirty nine ninety nine, but you must show 1507 01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:36.800 proof of being a student if you attend. 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