WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:07.719 Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Uncanny News News News News. 2 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.519 Hold on to your tails, Mutant enthusiasts. The Uncanny Experience is set 3 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:17.440 to become even more spectacular with the upcoming appearance of Aligned Eas the cosplay Maestro 4 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:22.719 prepared to be dazzled as the Embodies Nightcrawler, complete with azure fur and mischievous 5 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.079 allure. Join us as we dive into the world of X Men and all 6 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:32.679 things extraordinary at the Uncanny Experience and also mutant and fans alike. Man we 7 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:38.399 rocked it at this holiday season at Gambit Brewery. 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So go to our website learn some more information 23 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:56.319 and join our community of X Men enthusiasts. Hey Chris, you went to 24 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.920 La Comic Con, didn't you? I did. I got wonderful weekend at 25 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.840 La Comic Con, and now what happened well. Jordan Blasa, also known 26 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.479 as the Girl with the Great Smile, knocked it out of the park for 27 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:15.199 another year doing the hell Fire Gala walk. This is a tribute an homage 28 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:20.919 to the halfire Gala in the X Men comics, where the cosplayers portray the 29 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:27.719 X Men characters in their gorgeous, phenomenal met gala style lukes as they walked 30 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:32.919 down the runway in South Hall Lobby. Julian Jetson was the presenter and he 31 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:38.960 did an amazing job and everybody that it participated in the walk looked stunning. 32 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:45.039 It was definitely a highlight of the weekend and everybody. You need to follow 33 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:50.639 Hellfire Gala Walk on Instagram to see more photos and videos, and be sure 34 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:54.280 to follow the Girl with the Great Smile as well as all the other cosplayers 35 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:59.319 that are tagged in their post. They are magnificent, they are excellent, 36 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.159 and they were stunning, m beautiful. And you also got to see some 37 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:06.919 of our friends from X Men the animated series, right, Yes, Eric 38 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.360 and Julia Leewald were there as well as Larry Houston and Leonora Zan, the 39 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:15.439 voice of Rogue from X Men the Animated series, and it was just a 40 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.560 big family reunion all over again. We loved having them at the Uncanny Experience 41 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.319 this past year, and you know, they had so many good things to 42 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:30.400 say about the event and we're just glowing. We look forward to seeing them 43 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:35.039 at everywhere we go. Yes, absolutely, And how was the X Men 44 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:43.120 costplay scene? The X Men cosplay scene was amazing. It was so cool 45 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.120 to see so many X Men cosplayers. I thought that I was just gonna 46 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:50.599 see, you know, a handful, maybe, but no, it was 47 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.919 non stop. I kept bumping into people left and right, and everybody that 48 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.800 I talked to I got to geek out about their love of X Men and 49 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:03.080 my love of X Men, and it was just an amazing weekend. I 50 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:08.439 love it and was the pinnacle of meeting the Pink Power Ranger. Yes, 51 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:13.199 I had a wonderful life moment for me. I am a huge fan of 52 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:17.319 the Pink Power Ranger and she was there to promote The Pink Power Ranger The 53 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.639 Return, which is her new comic book that she's writing with Boom Studios. 54 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:28.439 They launched a Kickstarter campaign and raised about half a million dollars so far. 55 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.079 It's doing very well. It's very successful. I got to watch her panel 56 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:36.759 on the main stage and do a photo op, and in the photo she 57 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:44.240 actually held my original Pink Power Ranger action figure from the nineties that I waited 58 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.800 outside of Target for in the middle of the night with a big line of 59 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.959 families wrapped around the block because that action figure was so hot. It's been 60 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:54.399 with me all of my life and I love it. And it was so 61 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:58.959 cool to see, you know, to have a photo of with her holding 62 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:03.800 it at Yeah, it's just so transcendent of an experience. So had a 63 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:09.639 great time at La Comic Con, and we're going to be having more convention 64 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:14.959 adventures, which we will update you about in our Uncanny News segment at the 65 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.439 beginning of our episodes. Now onto the show. Everybody, Hi, everybody, 66 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:24.160 This is Chandler, and this is Chris, and this is Erica and 67 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:41.040 you're listening to podcast. Yes, everyone, we are back. We are 68 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:45.800 here with episode one thirteen, and we are here graced by the amazing Erica 69 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.680 Schaltz. Erica, thank you so much for being here. We so appreciate 70 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.319 it. Thank you for having me. I don't know how amazing I am, 71 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.879 but I appreciate you having me. Well, I will say that when 72 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.399 you're here to talk about of course X twenty three Deadly Genesis. And when 73 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:04.079 I was this mini series, I was my emotions were perked. I was 74 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:08.279 very invested in the series and I had to look you up because I was 75 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.480 like, I don't know this Rika Schultz. And so one thing, of 76 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.600 course that really stood out to me, which we can kind of get into 77 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.439 it more. But it takes place in Minneapolis, and that's where I was, 78 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.319 that's where I'm from, and that's where I'm currently living right now. 79 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.199 Actually, so it was just like, ooh, Twin Cities. This is 80 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:27.480 fun. Never are there Marvel stories in the Twin Cities. So all of 81 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.800 this led to this moment. I have never been to Minneapolis. I tend 82 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.680 to write things about places I have never been, and people are like, 83 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.439 oh, are you from, so you know wherever? I'm like, no, 84 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:42.879 Google is amazing. Mm hmm. Well, I would be curious if 85 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:47.439 the artist on this series actually knows the Twin Cities or just kind of generic 86 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:51.800 building research, because there's definitely no landmarks. But that's okay. Those of 87 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:59.160 you that maybe Minnesotan's or you know, native expats from the Twin Cities, 88 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.399 I still recommend you read this mini series if you haven't already, because it 89 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.079 is very fun. Even though it has very little to do with the Twin 90 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.360 Cities. It's just fun that it takes place there. I just thought I 91 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:14.399 thought the bridge was a the page one panel one. That bridge, that's 92 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.000 right, Yeah, the stone arch bridge. That's a stone arch. Thank 93 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.920 you. That's that's a that's a landmark. It is a land It is 94 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:27.279 a landmark. Yeah. So, anyways, we have Erica Schultz on the 95 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.079 show, and Chris, why don't you give us a little bit of like 96 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:32.920 four to one one on Erica. You are a comic book writer who has 97 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:38.120 worked on so many amazing projects that I want to highlight that are not X 98 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:41.560 Men related that I geeked out over. And now I need to go to 99 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.399 the com book store and buy these single issues because you wrote some charmed comic 100 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:49.120 books as well as na Warrior Princess, and I'm a huge fan of Bolls 101 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.720 and I need to hear a little bit about that before we even get to 102 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:59.040 anything else, because I am a major fan. So what do you want 103 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:03.600 to hear about that. I want to hear a little bit about the story 104 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.800 that you wrote for Xena. Give me a little quick synopsis of it, 105 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:11.279 a little tease for me before I head to the comic book store. So 106 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.720 there is a young woman who has the powers of the Oracle at Delphi, 107 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:22.279 and the oracle does not like this because everyone brings tribute to the oracle. 108 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:31.080 So the avatars of Apollo and Artemis are sent after her. Ooh, I 109 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.600 love it. And this is just another this is a quick question I want 110 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.559 to know, and you were in your head, who do you think would 111 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.759 win in a fight between Xena Warrior Princess and X twenty three. The only 112 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:50.120 reason why I would say X twenty three is simply because she has the healing 113 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.399 factor and Zena. She's very durable. She is very durable, and she's 114 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.840 very good, but she can't heal from a near fatal wound, you know, 115 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:03.840 without the God, without God's interfering, or without God's intervening rather, 116 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:11.879 So that's why I would say Laura would probably win out simply because she doesn't 117 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:18.080 need she doesn't need deities to intervene in order for her to come back. 118 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.600 Ah, okay, all right, so X twenty three wins. Yeah, 119 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.360 that's I mean, I could be wrong. Like Xena, I don't believe 120 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.000 is a demi goddess. She's not like Hercules where she's where she's part God. 121 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.440 And even though she's very strong and she's very durable, but I can't. 122 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:43.399 I mean, Laura can like practically get her head chopped off and still 123 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:48.000 come back. So mm hmmm. That healing factor is pretty amazing. I 124 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:54.360 want to hear about the crime series that you co created for Vices Press called 125 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.120 M three. Give me a little synopsis on that. So. M three 126 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:01.879 was the first com that I'd ever written, and I was working at a 127 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.279 studio in New York at the time and I was doing background art. But 128 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:11.279 I had reached out to one of the other figure artists who was there. 129 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:16.879 I had written some stories and I figured, well, maybe comics is a 130 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.799 good medium for these stories to really be told. So I wrote it as 131 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:28.159 a comic script and I gave it to Vicente Alcazar and he said, sure, 132 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.120 let's do this. And so we put out twelve issues in about three 133 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.320 and a half four years, and they were all self published Vices Press. 134 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.879 Vice viic Is stands for Vicente es is Eric Schultz. That's what Vices Press 135 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.840 is about. And it's also a double entendre get it. Vices press things 136 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.120 together and also they you know, if you have a vice that you know 137 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.519 presses on your soul. But that's just because Vicente is a big smoker. 138 00:10:52.879 --> 00:11:01.200 And we put these out and that really became my portfolio because as a writer, 139 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:07.240 you really need to make a comic in order to to have a portfolio 140 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:11.759 and to to to put it out. Nobody's going to read your scripts and 141 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.279 and that's something that I think a lot of writers don't really understand. And 142 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:20.360 so that became my portfolio piece, and I would then send it to editors. 143 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.080 And when we had the first trade paperback out, which was issues one 144 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.440 through six, the first story arc, I then gave that to editors to 145 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:35.039 uh as my you know, here I've written a whole story arc and Vicenti 146 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.279 did the art and you know, here you go, I can actually finish 147 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.840 something. Because that's that's a big thing, is being able to finish something. 148 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.320 It's all about deadlines. It is about deadlines. I know all about 149 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.559 it. People need to trust that you can, you know, be hired 150 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.080 to do something and then get it turned in on time. Yeah, and 151 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:58.759 that's and that's basically what it is, because especially with comics being I mean 152 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.320 and you're in the entertainment industry, so you know, it's a collaborative process. 153 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.919 Like you have to shoot something, the actor has to be there on 154 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.559 time to shoot, to get the footage out to the editor to color correct, 155 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.080 you know, to the offline editor and to online editor. Same thing 156 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.679 with comics. There's a specific typeline, you know, like the writer has 157 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.279 to write it and the editor has to get notes in, and the writer's 158 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.320 got to do the revisions before it can go to the artist to pencil and 159 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.159 if you have a separate inchor to go to the to the inker and everything, 160 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.000 and it's there's a there's a specific order in which things need to be 161 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.240 done. And especially when it comes to monthly comics, you've got to get 162 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.960 stuff done on time because you don't ever want to be the bottleneck. You 163 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.480 don't ever want to be the reason that you know your artist can't get something 164 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.399 done, or that your artist is working, you know, forty eight hours 165 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:54.559 straight. Nobody deserves that. I was kind of curious because you were Ely 166 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.200 an instructor at the Qubird School. You know, what kind of advice do 167 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.519 you have for or students of yours that are looking to get into the conflict 168 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.480 industry as a writer. Well, that's the That's the funny thing is when 169 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.000 I was at the Kubert School, I was sort of the red headed stepchild 170 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:16.120 because I'm the writing instructor at an art school, So a lot of what 171 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.919 I was trying to teach the students I don't know if I if I actually 172 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.600 succeeded. But even if you are an artist drawing your own story, you 173 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:31.840 should write a script simply because it's a lot easier to to make revisions on 174 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.879 a script than it is to make revisions on a board that you've already drawn, 175 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.919 on a page that you've already drawn. Whether even if it's you know, 176 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.279 digital, it's still a lot easier to you know, change some words 177 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.080 on a script than it is to you know, change drawing. So one 178 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:54.720 of the things that I always tell people is to start small. If you 179 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.320 want to be a writer, what you can do is you can look into 180 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.320 anthologies. There are a lot of smaller companies that do anthologies sometimes two to 181 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:07.120 three times a year, and you can just pitch them. They usually just 182 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.200 have like a central theme and then you can pitch the anthology. And the 183 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.639 easy part about that is that you will get the experience of working with an 184 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.960 editor. You will get the experience of working with an artist and going through 185 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:26.200 the pipeline. The other thing is that you don't have to you will not 186 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:31.360 be financing the book because a lot of times, as a writer, you 187 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:37.159 will sometimes be the one to sort of give the upfront to the artists to 188 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.120 get the to get start getting started on the art. A lot of times 189 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:48.360 if you're doing a Kickstarter or another crowdfunding platform, you can you know, 190 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.240 you still have to pay the artists for a couple of pages upfront so you 191 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:56.120 can have it for your platform, for the crowdfunding platform, and then you 192 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:01.320 know, you usually get the rest of the money through the through the campaign, 193 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:03.000 but you still got to put that money up front. So if you 194 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:09.600 want something like a portfolio piece like we did with them three, getting on 195 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.519 an anthology is actually a good thing because you're going to get that portfolio piece. 196 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.039 You're going to be able to send editors your five eight page story, 197 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.360 thirteen page story, whatever it is, and that's your portfolio piece, and 198 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:28.120 it didn't cost you anything or cost you very little. The other thing is 199 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:37.960 that you are also going to need to learn how to tell a story concisely, 200 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:43.759 and being given only five to eight pages to tell a story is a 201 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.879 challenge, but it is absolutely doable, and it's a good just a good 202 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.200 exercise. It's just a good writing exercise in general. So let's get into 203 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:58.200 the mind of Laura Kenny an X twenty three Chandler, give give us a 204 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:03.559 brief little rundown of who she is and what her powers are for our audience 205 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.360 if they don't already know, Yeah, absolutely get I'll give you my knowledge 206 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:14.039 of Laura. She, from my understanding, first appeared in X Men Evolution, 207 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:22.519 and due to popularity, then suddenly appeared in NYX, which is a 208 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:29.039 X Men or Marvel kind of offshoot series that I happened to read as it 209 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:36.279 was being published, And so I have the first appearance of Laura Kenny. 210 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:41.200 That's very very sought after for X me for comic book collectors. Now she 211 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:48.639 is kind of introduced as Wolverine's daughter, not through a biological mother from what 212 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:53.879 I understand, but more of a grown daughter. She has the abilities of 213 00:16:55.000 --> 00:17:00.480 Wolverine of logan healing factor, durability. She has bone claws which are also 214 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.720 laced with adamantium, and instead of three claws that come out of the top 215 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.519 of her fist, she has two and one that comes out of her foot, 216 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:14.079 so there is three on each hemisphere of her body. So she basically 217 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.680 is what people don't like to be called as female Wolverine. She now is 218 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:26.920 just Wolverine, which I love because concurrent day comics. There's two of her 219 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:32.160 because she's so beloved, and there's Talent, which is the older version of 220 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:36.839 Laura who has gone through the Vault and children of the Vault, and now 221 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:41.240 there is a much, much, much older but because of her healing factor, 222 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.079 you know, she still resembles somewhat of a maybe middle aged woman rather 223 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:49.079 than a young girl. She's got a gray stripe, a gray streak. 224 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.920 Yeah, that kind of show distinguishes her between the other Laura. There's just 225 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:57.759 so much to say about the character of her. I for this podcast, 226 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.880 we're gonna call her X twenty three because of the title of the book, 227 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.279 but we I think comic community collectively has kind of moved away from the name 228 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:10.839 just because she has moved away from the name as a character. But I 229 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.000 think for the purpose of this we can call her X twenty three because it 230 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:18.200 is going to be very important in the storytelling of Deadly Genesis. But now 231 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:23.880 everyone loves Laura. She is a fantastic character. She's been used so much 232 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:30.599 in so many different issues in different iterations, and I love especially the Leah 233 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:37.759 Williams Exterminators ron that just happened, where she is kind of the straight man 234 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.039 character, so to speak to the insane Boom Boom and Jubilee and everybody in 235 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:45.839 Dazzler and that storyline. That's my kind of quick and dirty recap. There's 236 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:52.160 so much to say about Laura, but we'll go We'll start there. All 237 00:18:52.240 --> 00:19:00.960 the Wolverine with Tom Taylor and David Lopez is another great place to to read 238 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:07.000 about Laura. Yes, let's put that on the list for X Reads. 239 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.000 So now I kind of want to dive deep into the mind of Laura and 240 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:19.160 ask the writer scary places. Oh yes, we're going to do some really 241 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:23.759 deep, hard hating questions. You know that it's going to just really dive 242 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:30.400 into the psychology of this character. So we'll go through a little rapid fire 243 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.200 Q and A about Laura just to see your thoughts. So, Chandler, 244 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:37.079 why don't you start us off with the first question? Okay, are you 245 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:41.640 ready for this? What is Laura's favorite style of pizza? She can't be 246 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:49.480 a vegetarian because that's just like not her game, although she might have jumped 247 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:56.000 on like the gluten free craze only because it was probably forced on her by 248 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:04.720 either Jubilee or one of the what's the word more jubilant X people. But 249 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:11.359 I would say that if Laura was ordering her own pizza, it would be 250 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:18.319 whatever. A number twenty five with chicken is on pizza in the earlier versions 251 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:25.839 of X twenty three, I want to say by Mariko Tamaki, and I'm 252 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:32.279 totally butchering their last name, and I apologize for that. Laura always orders 253 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:36.640 it's a number twenty five with chicken, or is it number twenty No, 254 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:38.880 it's number twenty five, I believe, not number twenty three, because that 255 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:47.880 would be too weird with chicken. And that's something that she also orders in 256 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.640 All New Wolverine when she meets Gabby, and that's like a recurring thing. 257 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:57.759 And I tried to put it into the book, but it was too serious 258 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:02.400 of a moment. The editor told me to pull it out because it was 259 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:06.640 too serious of the moment. That would be her her order on pizza. 260 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:11.279 Perfect. What is Laura's idea of a perfect date night? Acts throwing? 261 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:18.640 Yes, epic, that's a perfect all right. If Laura could have any 262 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.200 pet, real or mythical, what would it be? No, it would 263 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:27.680 be Wolf Range Jonathan is hangs with her. What is Laura's go to karaoke 264 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:34.200 song, Well me under by Dream Theater. What TV show would Laura binge? 265 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:38.720 If you would binge the Office, But she wouldn't think that it was 266 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:47.079 a comedy. Okay. If Laura were to start a social media account, 267 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:49.920 what would her first post be about? Well, I mean there's two I 268 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:52.440 mean I could go the funny router or I could go to this serious route. 269 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:56.200 The serious route would probably be. It would probably be like, there's 270 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:03.279 this person on Instagram that's called like self Defense Girl that teaches people self defense 271 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:06.440 moves and stuff. So it might be something like that where it's like, 272 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.400 you know, keep yourself safe, ladies, you know, you know, 273 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:12.240 keep yourself safe, you know people who might be smaller than other people and 274 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:15.920 stuff, this is how you keep yourself safe. Or it might be a 275 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.240 review of the best places to get the number twenty five with chicken, because 276 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:26.000 you can get in anywhere apparently. Last question is what would Laura buy you 277 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:33.599 for Christmas? Well, Laura wouldn't buy me anything for Christmas because I personally 278 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.720 don't get I don't get Christmas gifts. I am a sanctimonious person and I 279 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.640 always say, if you I have enough, I have more than enough. 280 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:45.759 So if you want to get me a Christmas gift, donate to a charity 281 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:52.200 and animal shelter or something like that. So I think that Laura would donate 282 00:22:52.319 --> 00:23:00.799 to like a Wolverine wildlife retreat. Perfect, awesome. I love getting these 283 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.799 insights because you've been in her headspace, you know, to write this character. 284 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:11.000 So I feel like you're the best kind of person to reflect on that. 285 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:15.079 Oh probably not, but I mean I would say Yost is probably the 286 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.400 best person reflect on it. But you know, way more skin in the 287 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:23.319 game than I do. But she's just she's just really just a fun character 288 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:30.920 and just really cool to explore. Just she's just so angry all the time, 289 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:36.960 and I can really relate to that. All Right, everybody, let's 290 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:42.720 dive into the recap of this series X twenty three Deadly ReGenesis, published March 291 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:48.640 eighth of twenty twenty three, written by our Erica Schultz and art by Edgar 292 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:56.759 Salazar. So there's a note that this is all taking place in the days 293 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:02.319 when the X Men are on you Topia, outside of San Francisco, So 294 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:07.240 this is not a moment in Krakoa or anything like that. We are back 295 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:14.400 in time. So the first issue we start in Minneapolis, which is where 296 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:18.319 I turned the page and I was like, what this is amazing. I 297 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.480 see the stone Arch bridge of course right there, and we see Laura. 298 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.319 We get a nice intros blast page of her in all of her iterations, 299 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.480 all of her amazing outfits and lukes as she is walking down the bridge, 300 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.720 kind of recap. She was an assassin one of the x Men, an 301 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.759 assassin for the x Men, and she's wondering what she will be. Now 302 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.200 we get to see all of her different outfits, which I love. I 303 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:48.000 actually have that page. Oh cool, cool, awesome. I love that. 304 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:53.440 Yeah, So we kind of are getting a bit of a recap on 305 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:56.759 Laura. You know, for those of me might not know her, you 306 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.759 can kind of get to know her through this series. Absolutely don't need to 307 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:06.599 come in with tons of knowledge on her, because Erica has thankfully given us 308 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.599 a lot of context but also gives us cool easter eggs that if you do 309 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.519 know, you can kind of catch little little bits. Then you're like, 310 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:18.799 oh, I remember that. So she is walking through Minneapolis, recollecting about 311 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:25.480 her life, and there is a firetruck that signals that there is trouble. 312 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:27.440 And before that, of course, she smells smoke, so we know that 313 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.960 there is a fire, and her hero mode kicks in and we get our 314 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:36.880 big title page, The past haunts us all. Edgar Salazar was phenomenal to 315 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:41.720 work with, so was Carlos Lopez, the colorist. And with any and 316 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:48.400 all comic book, you know, hear anything hero stuff, you really have 317 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:55.880 to have at least one or two splash pages in there to just bring the 318 00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:02.279 dynamic art out. And I was really we were going back and forth about 319 00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:08.079 like should the splash page be Laura leaping from the ground to the like lamppost 320 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:15.359 to the fire truck and stuff, or should the splash be this like horrifying 321 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:19.319 fire that happens. And we decided that we were going to go with the 322 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.839 We were going to go with the fire because we want to show that this 323 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.839 is not like some like little candle that got knocked over. This is serious 324 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:33.079 stuff. I think that's was a good choice. I noticed it. I 325 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.319 clocked it when I was reading it is because normally those splash pages are reserved 326 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:42.079 for characters. But what I appreciated about it is that if Laura was editing, 327 00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.839 she'd not want to see herself. She would rather show the people that 328 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.200 are in trouble, and you know that she that she's going to go help 329 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.839 out, and she'd be like, no, I don't want the splash page 330 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.200 will be I want to show the danger. So I clocked that right away. 331 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.160 I was like, Oh, this is cool. And what I I 332 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.880 really notice as being a Twin Cities person is that the woman that she is 333 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.559 going into this building to rescue because they cannot get her out, she's in 334 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.240 a wheelchair. She is a Somali woman. And in the Twin Cities we 335 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:18.640 do have the second largest Somali population outside of Smali itself. So I loved 336 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:23.319 that attention to detail. Yes I did. I did on purpose put that 337 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:29.240 in because I knew that there is a large Somali population uh in the area 338 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.599 in my Google research of the area, so I wanted to put that in. 339 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:41.519 Also, when Laura was at the facility, originally she was trained in 340 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.559 multiple languages, she was trained in multiple fighting styles. So I wanted to 341 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:51.000 show that she could recognize that this person was Somali and that she could speak 342 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.480 their language because she spoke all these different languages because that was part of the 343 00:27:55.519 --> 00:28:00.400 training. Well, I you know, it's an easter egg for a Twin 344 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.319 Cities person to see, and I really appreciate it because then you know, 345 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.680 in the next page she's leaping out of the building, you know, carrying 346 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.200 the woman to safety. And then we get our first flashback to Kitten and 347 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:17.160 kind of the NYX comic book series Days, And like I said, I 348 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.720 originally read that series, so I was really surprised. I didn't think we'd 349 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.640 ever see Kitdden ever again in comics, and you brought her back so uh 350 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:30.279 like five seconds. Well, you know, she makes a couple appearances throughout 351 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:37.720 the series, But yes, I appreciate it. I feel like Kitdden Nixon, 352 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.519 I think what's her last name is is a character that was introduced and 353 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.720 then never seen again, but she is part of Laura's history, and I 354 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.480 feel like we see Laura all the time, so why don't we get a 355 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.960 little glimpse of Kitten. So I appreciate that you included her. She was 356 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.720 also probably one of the first friends that Laura actually had, so I thought 357 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:03.799 that that was important because the story itself is we are delving into Laura's past, 358 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.960 but also what makes her who she's going to become, and you know, 359 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:14.160 having a relationship like that I think is part of the foundation of who 360 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.039 she who she becomes. Did you have to go back and read NYX or 361 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.680 did you just pull that that character out for yourself. I pulled it out 362 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.319 for myself. I never would I ever want to go back and read n 363 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:36.079 Yx. No shade to the creators. I can't stand how every single female 364 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:42.079 character has to be you know that it's the shorthand that you know, she 365 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:51.799 has to have some horrible backstory and it has to involve assault, and it's 366 00:29:52.000 --> 00:30:02.200 just it's just very frustrating because it's shorthand for I'm broken, And it's frustrating 367 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:11.160 because what that does is that negates any healing that assault survivors have gone through, 368 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.519 because it's saying, well, no matter what, you're always going to 369 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.279 be broken, You're always going to be tainted. And it also makes it 370 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:22.160 out to be like this is the origin story of every tragic hero and it's 371 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:29.720 it's not. Another character that I wrote for Marvel was a character named Palo's 372 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.440 Eve and Janine Godby, who that's her real name or not her real name? 373 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:38.480 Excuse me. Her real name is Elizabeth Elizabeth Tyne. But Janine Godby 374 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.599 was assaulted by your father and she killed him in self defense and everything, 375 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.440 so that whole you know, we have to assault somebody in order to give 376 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.720 them a reason to be aggressive, to be broken, to be hurt, 377 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.559 to be whatever. So I did not go to Nick's. I actually skipped 378 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.079 it one hundred percent, even when it was coming out, even though it 379 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:06.440 was a huge fan of evolution, I completely skipped it once I heard about 380 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:11.680 the whole Zebra Daddy thing, and you know that it was just a little 381 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.960 beyond the pale for me. Well, absolutely fair and and and astute assessment 382 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.880 of that. I I I do agree that it is it is shorthand to 383 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:30.400 use that because it's used too frequently. There's way more opportunities and experiences that 384 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.720 people can go through to become violent or broken. As you say, you 385 00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.039 know, it's like there's and you don't have to always go back to sexual 386 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:42.200 assault. Yeah, it's it's the there's a website TV tropes. It's basically 387 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.240 the the trope that that they use. It's you know, hey, we've 388 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:51.279 got to have a female character who's who's broken and hurt. Let's let's put 389 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.599 a sexual assault in her past. And I'm just like, you know, 390 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.240 okay, this is a little much. Guys. I think for creators that 391 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:04.240 it's a it's a call to action and challenge to get away from that because 392 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.039 yeah, I was just watching a TV show and they use that at trope 393 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:15.440 and I was like, oh really. So anyways, well back to Deadly 394 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:22.160 ReGenesis. There's lots of action going on. There's this burning building, there's 395 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:27.319 somebody, there's a fireman still stuck in there, so she of course pulls 396 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.400 up the heroics, runs in, she saves the person. We're getting all 397 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.319 sorts of great flashbacks. I don't recall her wearing the Fang uniform and savage 398 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.519 land, but now I need to find those issues. It kind of reminded 399 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:44.359 me of Vixen from DC. Yes, oh yeah, I love the Fang 400 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.319 outfit on whether it's on Docin or Wolverine or Fang himself. So now I 401 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.440 need to find the Laura Fang moment and added to my collection. I want 402 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:58.799 to comment on this amazing, beautiful yet horrific at the same time splash page 403 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:04.799 of Laura hurrying a fireman on her back out the door, just bloodied gore 404 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.519 everywhere coming out of her. She is sizzling from the heat being burned. 405 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:16.160 Her skin is literally sloughing off of her. How did you write this page? 406 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.119 Like, what does this page sound like when you write it? I 407 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.440 can, I'll tell you what it sounded like. You know, it's funny. 408 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.440 Well, it's not funny, but I mean, my older sister had 409 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.559 a bad burn when we were kids, and she on her leg and she 410 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.519 always talks about how they had to and this is the seventies, so they 411 00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.519 probably didn't know what they were doing, but she always talks about how they 412 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:45.440 had to like scrape the skin off of her. And I was thinking about 413 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:52.160 that when I was writing this scene, and I was just like, yeah, 414 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.960 there's just gonna be skin just like hanging off of her. Page thirteen 415 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.960 splash page of Laura carrying the firefighter from the burning building out the front door. 416 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.920 She's framed by the fire trucks and ambulances. Her clothes are partially burned 417 00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.280 off, and her skin is sloughing off her body. She has exposed muscle, 418 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:10.360 tissue, and bone. There are firefighters staring her in awe, he 419 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:16.360 needs medical assistance. M that's that was the That's how it was written. 420 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:27.000 Wow, it definitely reads yeah, it reads gross. Yeah, I mean 421 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.639 you think about this character. I mean, all the things that she's gone 422 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.960 through just in general, do you have, like, if you want to 423 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:37.000 be technical about it, have almost a horror element to it? So why 424 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.159 not throw that in, even just for one panel or one splash, you 425 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:45.159 know? Yes? Oh, and she gets beat up in this whole mini 426 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:51.159 series a lot because well we'll get to what happens to her healing factor later, 427 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.920 but we cut to a little bit later. She is at the ambulance 428 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:59.519 she's recovering. We get a flashback to Kimora, who was exciting to see 429 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.000 you're a terrible human being, terrible person, evil, evil person, horrible 430 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:14.679 person, out for herself, great villain, underutilized and it was fantastic to 431 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:19.119 have her in this series. And we get a news reporter going up to 432 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.960 Laura trying to get her on the news. She does not want to be 433 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.639 on the news. But of course that is our catalyst or impetus, that 434 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:31.679 that she has been facially recognized. The exciting incident. Yes, Ai has 435 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:37.000 got her face and it knows, so it alerts Kimora and her lackeys that 436 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:43.400 she is out and about in the Twin Cities, and they send their new 437 00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.920 person that they're building after her. Who is this new person, Well, 438 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:58.679 it is a non binary character named Haymaker Jordan. And that was a really 439 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:04.360 cool choice because Jordan comes across as hyper masculine, you know, prize fighter 440 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.360 person, but goes by they them. So, Erica, what tell us 441 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:14.679 about this choice? I wanted to have a trans masculine, non binary character 442 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.000 because I know that there are so very few, uh in comics in general, 443 00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.480 and there's only one or there's only I think one or two transgender characters 444 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.119 in the Marvel universe, and I don't even know if there are if both 445 00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.039 of them are in the six one six. So I wanted to make sure 446 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:38.039 that people saw this character as not just the bad guy, but someone who 447 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:45.360 has a reason to hate Laura. Also, I wanted Jordan to have an 448 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.079 arc, you know. I didn't just want Jordan to be, you know, 449 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:53.719 part of the faceless army. You know, we have enough faceless armies 450 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.679 in all of these books, whether it's you know, in pretty much most 451 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:02.519 stories, whether it's like the faceless army of robots or zombies or vampires or 452 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.599 you know, liter wolves fill in the blank. So we have enough faceless 453 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:10.480 army people that I wanted to make sure that we had a character who we 454 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.639 could develop, and a character who wasn't just going to be a sidetracked character, 455 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:21.239 a character who we are going to see grow emotionally and deal with their 456 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:27.239 own issues in terms of whether it's addiction, grief, all of these things. 457 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:31.800 It was a conscious effort to have this character. And Jan Bezodoral was 458 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:37.480 the artist who's a transgender artist, and she was the one who designed Haymaker's 459 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.239 outfit. And there was actually a variant cover that we had that had Jan's 460 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.000 designs for the character, which was really cool. I have a copy of 461 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.559 that cover. I have like one copy of like all the covers, and 462 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.719 there's a Jillon. It was a really cool idea to get a trans artist 463 00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:02.079 to draw to draw the character. And when you see Jordan shirtless, you 464 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:07.800 can see the top surgery scars on them. Because I wanted to say, 465 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.000 like, these people, these are people who exist in the real world, 466 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:16.079 and if we're gonna believe comics as if we're gonna have the suspension of disbelief 467 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.239 that these characters can be real, then populate the world with real people. 468 00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:25.199 And Jordan is a real is someone who is a real person, you know 469 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.440 and reflective of the world around us. I have to confess I did not 470 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.280 notice the top surgery scars until you pointed it out. I just was in 471 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.239 this world and belief that it was a non binary just you know person, 472 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.920 which I think is also a testament to the writing, is that you know, 473 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.519 obviously trans mask is identified through those scars, but you know, their 474 00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.639 identity of being just you know, masculine in their way, you know, 475 00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.760 is a testament to the kind of how you wrote this character. I really 476 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:06.039 hope we get to see more of them. Well, we shall see. 477 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.079 We shall see. That's all I'll say is we shall see. Oh. 478 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:16.320 Well, we get a little bit of a backstory on Jordan aka Haymaker, 479 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.920 and we know that they do not like Laura, that they hold Laura responsible 480 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:28.920 for the death of forgive Me the brother. Yes, their brother drew their 481 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.519 brother. And of course we learned that this is all done by a hit 482 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:38.199 made by Kingpin, but he holds Laura responsible regardless because she was the killing 483 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:45.639 machine. And later on we get all sorts of you know, discoveries, 484 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:52.440 slash, you know, growth of that character and making new decisions on their 485 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.239 feelings. I just want to talk about character design really quickly and give a 486 00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:02.239 shout out to Jordan's X on the side of the neck, which is very 487 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.280 attractive to me. I think that that was a good choice by the artist. 488 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:13.199 There's also when in the second issue when you see Drew, Jordan's brother, 489 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:20.119 you see a similar on the forearm, a similar mark on the forearm. 490 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:25.280 Yeah, and is this a birthmark or is this like a burn mark. 491 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:32.760 It's kind of like them claiming themselves of and there who they are and 492 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.920 their connection to each other. So it's I won't go so far as to 493 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:42.760 say it's self injurious because I don't want people to think that I'm putting that 494 00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:46.880 on that type of character, but it is a conscious decision that they that 495 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:52.840 Jordan and Drew made as a way of connecting. Next, we learn that 496 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.719 Logan has a safehouse in North Loop, which I was like, I need 497 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.079 to find his house. North Loop. Everybody is just a neighborhood of Minneapolis 498 00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:08.039 that Erica probably discovered in her googling. I will tell you, I will 499 00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:14.239 tell you a secret. So Kimora's number one or number two rather is a 500 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:20.760 guy named Burnham, which is named after Eric Burnham, the writer artist he's 501 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:28.960 currently writing TMNT and he's also written Craven and Scarlet Spider. And Eric is 502 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:34.199 from Minnesota and he knows the Twin Cities very very well. So I did 503 00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:37.320 lean on him for a couple of things, and like, you know, 504 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:43.559 what are the trendy neighborhoods kind of thing, So I named the character Burnham 505 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:49.800 after him, although despite getting Eric's permission in writing, they said that they 506 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.599 didn't want to make the character look like him because they were worried about a 507 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:59.239 liability. So, well, all those lawyers, lawyers, Well, I 508 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.880 will say Logan has good taste, because that's a great neighborhood to have a 509 00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:06.519 place. So I was not the first neighborhood I would expect Logan, But 510 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.039 at the same time, no one would expect it because you know, it's 511 00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.039 not on brand, and therefore it is a very safe place to be there. 512 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.960 You go, Well, Laura had some fast food last night, it 513 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.000 appears, and she didn't finish it. Maybe it wasn't the best restaurant, 514 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:27.280 or you know, they didn't have a good number twenty five with chicken, 515 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:37.039 Yeah, exactly. Clearly didn't even finish her fries. But we cut to 516 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:45.400 Kumora and Haymaker sending him off to the sorry sending them off to the location 517 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:52.599 of where Laura is, and we get this canister of red smoke that we 518 00:42:52.719 --> 00:43:00.000 hate for the next five issues because it negates super powers, especially the healing 519 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.280 factor of Laura. Yes, now Laurah gets her butt handed to her, 520 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.360 Yes a lot. Yes, I need to know this compound, this chemical 521 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.639 compound. Now, was this something that you were just able to write as 522 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:22.519 negating anti mutant smoke or or is it actually, like you know, there's 523 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.719 all sorts of things that take away powers in Marvel comics, so I'm just 524 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:29.960 curious if this is one of those, or this is a new tool. 525 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:36.559 We went back and forth editorial and I and to the point where I was 526 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.960 saying, you know, they kept saying, Laura's heartier than you think she 527 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.639 is, you know, hit her with this, hit her with that, 528 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:47.400 hit her with the next thing, and I'm like, I'm not entirely comfortable 529 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.719 watching her get the you know, stuffing beating out of her. And then 530 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:59.719 when we got uh, when we got the colors back, the editor literally 531 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.400 and said whoa. I said, yeah, this is torture porn, Like 532 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:09.719 I brought it up three months ago. Now you see it. Now you 533 00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.039 see it. Okay, thank you, And they're like, oh, and 534 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:21.559 there's one particular panel in issue to where Haymaker just clocks Laura dead in the 535 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.320 face and it is just brutal. And the editor was like, let's put 536 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.519 just put a big sound effect. I was like, I don't know if 537 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.039 a big sound effect is really going to stop it. Like, this is 538 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.159 what you wanted. Be careful what you wish for Erica. She'll give it 539 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.719 to you and then you will then you will be worried when you see the 540 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:44.840 entire page is red in terms of this compound. This is something we just 541 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:50.280 went back and forth on and the editor came up with, you know, 542 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.480 this idea of like, let's have something that negates the healing factor because you 543 00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:57.760 know, when you have a character that is way too powerful, you know, 544 00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:00.719 how are you going to challenge them? Mm hmm. So that was 545 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.239 so that was something and it ends up backfiring on Kamora in the last issues. 546 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.679 So she gets her come up and she does she does well. I 547 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:19.920 challenge editorial to find out what this chemical compound is because obviously it does more 548 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:28.800 than take away just healing factors and I always think finding those cruxes that kryptonite 549 00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:35.239 to superpowers is essential because otherwise they just become way too powerful and then it 550 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.679 just becomes less exciting. So the more opportunities there are, you know, 551 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:45.360 we've seen the callers on Genosha that just take away powers. We now have 552 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.639 blight swill in the Krakowen Era, which is an other worldly chemical thing that 553 00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:54.280 they create and then inject into people or put on the tips of spears and 554 00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:02.039 destroy Jean Gray with. But yeah, but anyways, so I just I'm 555 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.119 very curious to see if this compound will come back into play, because I 556 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:12.840 think it's an exciting tool that villains in X Universe can use. Though forgive 557 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.880 me Kimora. Is she a mutant or is she just a superhuman? Kimora 558 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:22.440 is enhanced. This was another thing that we kept going back and forth with 559 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.639 editorial, because when you look up what Kimora can do, it's like, 560 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:34.239 well, she's extra durable and nigh in vulnerable, and she's this, and 561 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:42.239 she's that she has immunity to adamantium, which I don't understand how that works. 562 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.320 So we had had something and we kept going back and forth about it. 563 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:51.440 I want to say it was an issue three maybe where Camora. Oh, 564 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.760 Camora can also phase. Yes, she can phase her hands through things. 565 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.280 I don't think she can phase her whole body like Kitty, but she 566 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.639 can phase her hands through things. So we had this hole back and forth 567 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:10.039 where Kimora fazes her hand through through Laura's rib cage to see how her ribs 568 00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:16.760 are healing. And originally Kamara had a line like something to the tune of 569 00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:21.440 like, well, you're not like Logan because Kamora only has the in this 570 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.760 particular continuity. She only has the adamancium in her hands and feet. She 571 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.320 doesn't have it on her entire skeleton like Logan. When she was revived and 572 00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:35.679 like hatched from the egg in Krakoa, they thought she had it on her 573 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:39.840 entire skeleton. So that's why the young Laura has is like Wolverine more that 574 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.880 way. But we had we had a line in there something like you know, 575 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.280 you're less like Logan than you think. And Kamora is then able to 576 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.679 face her hand through Laura's chest to check on the healing of the ribs. 577 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.000 No matter how we wrote it, it was just very very clunky. I 578 00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.800 sort of like left it in the hands of editorial in the sense of, 579 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:05.199 look this is I think we need to explain this simply because Kimora's powers are 580 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.280 so nebulous, and it's one of those things where it's like, oh, 581 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:13.280 when did she get that power? Kind of like how how Electra I don't 582 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:19.000 know if people know this. Electra can actually use It's not telepathy per se, 583 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.840 but she can actually like if she connects with someone's mind, she can 584 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:27.039 find them anywhere within a certain radius. And that's something that like nobody ever 585 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.280 talks about for Electra. But you know, that's like a power that'll come 586 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.920 up with the sex machina, you know what I mean, As one of 587 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.000 my former students used to say, do sex machina. You know, I 588 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:43.320 wanted to make sure that we at least sort of explained Camora's weird enhancements. 589 00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:51.199 But she's been experimented on and you know, undergone different procedures and has probably 590 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:55.199 taken Mowton growth hormone and god knows what else. So yeah, Kimora's got 591 00:48:55.239 --> 00:49:00.920 a whole battery of enhancements that I don't think everybody, I don't think anybody's 592 00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.320 ever really shown all of them in one book. And if they have, 593 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.119 it's kind of a woman because, like you were saying, you know, 594 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:10.800 when somebody is that powerful, it's kind of like what do you do with 595 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.360 them? You know, how do you beat them? Right, Well, 596 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:19.559 you've got to you've got a powder or whatever gas canister that you've created. 597 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.960 That to the point of my question is that I guess it's not affecting mutant 598 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:28.679 jeans. It's affecting superpowers. Yeah, any enhancements kind of yeah, it 599 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.360 could. It could affect you know, Captain America, Like when when does 600 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:37.480 he ever get a red smoke bomb to the face and can't Well, I 601 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:43.079 mean he's been he Captain America has been taken out by mad bombs, He's 602 00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:47.639 been taken out by by reverse Vitar rays. That in Captain America Super Soldier, 603 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.039 he had the reverse Vitar raise and he went back down to Skinny Steve 604 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.159 and it was just like the splash page of like this tiny person in this 605 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.320 like huge outfit and it almost like it looked like a kid like wearing his 606 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.800 dad's clothes. Yes, I'm recalling that now. Yeah, well either way, 607 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:09.199 again, editorial challenge you to bring out this chemical compound and let's let's 608 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:14.239 let's use it on some superheroes. The smoke is cleared and she has her 609 00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:17.519 fist in the air and she's angry and she's yelling out who are you and 610 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.360 what do you want for me? And from off page we hear it's real 611 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.639 simple X twenty three and we turn the page and Erica, can you describe 612 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:36.639 to me what we see? We see Haymaker looking pretty badass, saying I 613 00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.760 want to kill you. Yes, like I want your head on a spike 614 00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.840 and I will have it. The face off is on. Yep. Yes, 615 00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:51.320 that's a great clash. Yeah, great to be continued. So yes, 616 00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:53.800 rather than go through the rest because I got too I got too wordy 617 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:57.840 in this first issue because there was a lot to go through. So I'm 618 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.760 like, oh right, look it's a thirty issue. You did it. 619 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:07.920 It's Justice, So everybody go out and finish this series because I don't want 620 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:13.320 to spoil anything. But it's uh, it's really it's only five issues, 621 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.400 so it's not that much of a commitment, and it's a really great story 622 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.719 of Laura. And I really, like I said, Eric, I really 623 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.840 feel like you captured her. Well, you're a good voice for her, 624 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.119 so thank you. I helpe you get to do more. Thank you. 625 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:27.840 I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, she's she is a character that 626 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:35.119 has grown a lot, so to sort of take her back was a bit 627 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.639 because, you know, if especially if you read only Wolverine, Dave Lopez, 628 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:45.480 and Tom Taylor, Laura has even you know, a different speech pattern. 629 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:51.320 You know, she's she uses contractions, she's more relaxed, and you 630 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:57.039 know, and then that's when we meet Gabby and Zelda and Bologna and you 631 00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.639 sort of start seeing Laura's family side. For lack of a better term, 632 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:08.519 but I think that going back to this very stoic Laura was interesting, especially 633 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:13.199 since you know, we know what she's going to become, but it's a 634 00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.679 matter of let's not forget where she came from. I really appreciate you taking 635 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.519 the time to do this with us, because having creators on the show is 636 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.920 one of the biggest highlights of doing this podcast. You know, Chris and 637 00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:30.679 I we do this and it's mostly a silly recap of you know, stories 638 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.960 from the eighties and stuff and whatnot, and we usually pick the more obscure 639 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.400 things, but sometimes it's really fun to dive into the serious ones and talk 640 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:45.679 to a creator and get into the head of the creation process of comics and 641 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:51.039 the preparation for it. Yeah, and I appreciate you being interested in process. 642 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.159 I think a lot of times people just go to the shop and see 643 00:52:53.199 --> 00:53:00.480 it on the on the shelf and don't really understand what it takes to get 644 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:05.480 it there. And I think that that's I think people need to sort of 645 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.639 understand that. I mean, it's it's really easy to just go online be 646 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.760 like this sucked, whether it's like a movie or a comic or a novel 647 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:20.000 or whatever, but not truly understanding the struggle that it took and the amount 648 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.480 of people that were involved. And you mentioned, you know, you were 649 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.679 in the entertainment industry. The idea of you know, all of these things 650 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:34.559 coming together to coalesce and you know, at the right time to create something. 651 00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.599 I think people need to need to understand that. And you know, 652 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.639 anything that gets that gets made and gets put out there in and of itself 653 00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:47.760 is a little miracle. I completely agree, because when you work inside, 654 00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:52.000 you see how it is not as easy as you can think of. Oh 655 00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:58.000 yeah, and all of the people that make decisions along the way that it's 656 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:02.440 not just rested on one person rarely ever, so even a director of a 657 00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:07.000 film, even a writer of a comic, they answer to other people, 658 00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:12.840 other notes, other directions, and you know, uh it is a village 659 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.960 to get something off the ground. Absolutely, absolutely, So what's next for 660 00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:25.280 Erica? So Marvel Zombies, Red White and Blood just came out. I'm 661 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:31.559 so excited about that. I have it in my reading pile. It just 662 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.119 came out this past Wednesday, and I got to check another character off my 663 00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.079 bucket list, Beta Ray Bell. And uh so that story is, it's 664 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:49.920 a ten page story about Bill and his and what happens with him. And 665 00:54:50.360 --> 00:55:00.000 we've got Gang Moore just started as well in asm and that so the Daredevil 666 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.199 that I wrote, I'm sorry. The Marvel Zombies was drawn by Nelson Daniel. 667 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:06.880 I just wanted to, you know, get his name out there. 668 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:12.119 And Daredevil Gangmore is a Foreshu mini series. It is drawn by Sergio Devilla, 669 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.880 inked by Sean Parsons and colored by CC de la Cruz. I believe 670 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.519 the letter is Corey Pettit. I'm not entirely sure. Forgive me if I 671 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:25.239 messed that up. But that comes out on the thirteenth of December and that's 672 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:31.639 a for issue mini. We've got some other stuff that I can't talk about 673 00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:38.880 yet coming out from Marvel. And then the other project is this spring is 674 00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.280 Spawn. I'm going to be writing a new Spawn series called rat City, 675 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:50.239 and Jay Lopez is the artist on that. We haven't found we haven't assigned 676 00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:57.920 a colorist yet, but that's been a pretty crazy ride because I'm the first 677 00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:04.119 woman to ever write Spawn. Wowe, no pressure, no pressure, no. 678 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.639 So yeah, so that's that's gonna be cool. And we're really excited 679 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.119 about Rat City. And it takes place way in the future, so it's 680 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:19.920 like twenty one to eleven, and it's a very different take the way Todd 681 00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.760 and Thomas have been talking about it is. It's a Spawn book that doesn't 682 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.760 feel like a Spawn book but still feels like a Spawn book. So I've 683 00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:35.440 been reading a lot of Spawn and then trying to find ways to show how 684 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:40.119 I can write like the og Spawn but also put my own little twist on 685 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:44.480 it. And Jay puts his own little twist on the art, which is 686 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:50.719 just really very very good. We already have two issues drawn, and I 687 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.960 handed in the script for issue number five today. Yeah. I mean it's 688 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:58.880 it's gonna go a good amount of issues. It's not going to be like 689 00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:04.599 six issues and gone like We're going thirty plus issues with this. Congratulations, 690 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.719 that's exciting. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. And I'm supporting my 691 00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:13.400 spawn T shirt, so yes, yes, So tell us where can we 692 00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:21.320 follow your adventures online? I am on all social media's except Instagram as Erica 693 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.079 Schultz forty two. That's s C h U L t Z four two. 694 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:32.440 I am on Twitter, Blue Sky, Masta do on all of the things 695 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.079 on Instagram, I am Erica Schultz Writes w R I T E S. 696 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.760 And my website is Erica Shultzwrights dot com. And I've got a bunch of 697 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.159 books there that I can that you can purchase, I can sign and send 698 00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:52.079 them out. And uh yeah, Are you going to be appearing at any 699 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:58.079 comic conventions in the near future? In the I think it's early March. 700 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.800 I believe it's the seventh, the ninth, or the seventh to tenth. 701 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:07.800 There's Lexington Comic Con in Lexington, Kentucky, and I will be there. 702 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:13.199 I will be a guest there with Leana Kangis, who's a phenomenal creator themselves, 703 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.199 and a couple of other people are going to be there, but I 704 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.960 know Leon will be there because because I've requested to have my table next to 705 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.559 them. And then as of right now, the only the only convention that 706 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:29.639 I know I'll be at is New York in October next October. I don't 707 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.360 know about San Diego yet. Maybe maybe not, we'll see. I'm kind 708 00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.360 of playing it by year. Well. We hope to encounter you at a 709 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.239 con in the near future, whether it's in New York or on the West 710 00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.480 Coast somewhere, but that would be fun. We'll have to come by your 711 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:47.239 table and say hi. Maybe maybe I'll do the one of the conventions in 712 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:53.360 Minnesota, Yes, Twin Cities con that's Comic Book one, So let them 713 00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:59.840 know. I will thank you so much for coming in and geeking out with 714 00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.599 us and giving us the inside scoop on X twenty three. Deadly ReGenesis listeners, 715 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.719 be sure to go check this out. Pick it up at your local 716 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:13.039 combook store, get it on Marvel Unlimited. I personally am also going to 717 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:17.800 be grabbing that Xena Warrior Princess issue and the Charmed books because I love that 718 00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.119 and I love your writing. So I'm excited to see your take on their 719 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:27.840 universes. Also, everybody, I am excited about Marvel Zombies and I just 720 00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:31.400 learned about this from you, Erica, just in this moment, So I'm 721 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:36.480 actually probably going to go to the com book store right now and pick that 722 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:40.239 up because that is really cool. There's also a great story in there by 723 00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:46.760 Gail Simone as well, So yes, love Gail. We really appreciate you 724 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:51.039 taking the time to be on our show. And everybody, go follow Erica 725 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:52.360 on social media, go buy her comic books, and go see Heerra to 726 00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.639 con if you are happy to be in one of the areas that she appears. 727 00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.039 X Reads is recorded in the United States. Our theme music is written 728 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.679 by Austin Wintree. Please make sure to follow our podcast to be updated on 729 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.559 when new episodes appear every first and third Wednesdays of the month. Follow us 730 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:13.599 on social media at X Reread's podcast That's the Letter, X ri ads podcast 731 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:24.280 on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Thanks so much for listening. By