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Hello, and welcome to the Geek
First Podcast, episode number unknown. But

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this is the Dune Part two review. I'm Dylan mustn I'm joined by silent.

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Let's try to silence you as you
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works all back down for Taylor,
I want to make sure to edit like

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a really intimidating silence into that too. Yeah, I am the pet Taylor

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Field. Very good. Yeah.
Unfortunately, Travis was feeling ill and he

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had to miss his showing of the
movie, so he therefore he could not

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be with us tonight for the review. But he is going to check it

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out in the next week, I'm
sure, so I don't know if he'll

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talk about Travis told you maybe a
newscast. You guys will hear his thoughts

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later down the road. But yeah, we're finally here the long road to

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uh Dune Part two. And yeah, if you haven't joined us for review

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before, we start with a non
spoiler section before we go into the spoilers.

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Uh cool, let's get into it
Dune once again. We did a review

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for Dune part one, So if
anyone's curious on our thoughts on that you

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can go back check it out.
We got a lot of praise with the

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Golden Geeks at the end of the
year. We are all a big,

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big fan of this. Dune Part
two is here, Kirkland, what did

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you think this movie? It's it's
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this as this movie ended, it
was rolling credits. I'm just like,

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man, the amount of categories I
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nominations for this movie alone. Yeah, Adam Web two where it's like that

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didn't give me much for Michaelden Geeks, very forgettable. Yeah, I don't

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think I have any anything in there
actually for any category. We don't do

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the worst category or the worst movie
of the year anymore. So it's true.

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It's definitely not gonna be nominated anywhere, I don't think. But yeah,

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for Dune, I absolutely love the
first part. It's it's kind of

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become a but you know, I
notoriously gave it a nine point five incorrectly,

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should admit I later redacted that score. I absolutely love that movie.

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I've watched it probably like three times
in twenty twenty three, and then I

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think, like every time a trailer
came out, I just like would would

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throw it on. I just I
was getting so hyped for it. Shane

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and I recently or yeah, we
started watching it last night and then finished

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it literally like like an hour before
the movie. Like so, I'm just

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totally in the Dune mindset right now, very much looking forward to this movie.

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It was my most anticipated and I
truly think it completely delivered and knocked

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it right out of the park.
I think there's so much great, Like

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I guess I should start off as
saying I haven't read the books or anything,

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so everything that I'm getting for the
lore of Dune it is through these

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movies, and I actually think they're
doing a really really good job at laying

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it out now. As I just
mentioned, I did see the first movie

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like five times now, so like
that really helped me maybe catch on the

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things that I'd missed on the first
viewing. But I feel like I have

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a really good base line as to
at least what's going on right now in

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the movies, and I'm really able
to follow like these new names that are

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coming in and just the different factions
and stuff. And I love strategy games

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and empires and all these like politicking
things that go on, and like these

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stories are just so fascinating for me
because of all those those movie pieces,

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I guess, like the different empires
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that's implemented, Like just how all
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And that's just like the story alone, like that's completely separate from just the

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cinematic masterpiece. So I think these
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movies and theaters in my opinion.
I think if you if you have the

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possibility of going to the theaters for
Dune Part two, if you've already seen

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part one, I highly highly recommend
it. I just feel like it's it's

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a must watch it. They do
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it all just the again, like
all all of like the big scale that

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Deni brings to these movies is just
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lactic scale. Even though you're just
on Aracus, you're on Dune, and

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yeah, it's just such a pleasant
viewing, even though at times this movie

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can be very disturbing, but it's
all it's all for a purpose. It's

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all to make you feel different emotions. And I was feeling different motions throout

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this whole movie. I was fully
engaged. I was sweaty, my palms

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were sweaty at moments. I don't
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rallying behind Polytrates and his forces by
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I'm like, I absolutely love this
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it again. And Dylan, you
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and stuff. This movie makes me
want to like get more into readings that

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I can eventually tackle that big Everest
mountain that is the Dune series because I'm

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just so fascinated in these stories and
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me in I know, it's just
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what you could be diving into on
the novels. And yeah, I know,

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it's fantastic. The acting is just
there's so many big names in these

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movies. It just seems like the
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They just they're like it's like a
big mass fishy net that just scooping up

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all like the best actors going on
right now, and they're getting implemented in

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these Dune movies. And I'm I'm
loving it. I think it's it's better

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for it, And yeah, I
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Like going into this whole review.
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I could kind of poke at,
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have to dive deep for those negatives
because this is just such a such a

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great adventure and to have it.
You know, we're at the end of

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February here, but like still so
early on in the year. It's like

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this is gonna be a tough,
tough one to beat for the best movie

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of the year for my list.
But yeah, I'll pass along there.

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I can't wait to dive into this
one with you guys and talk all spoilers

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and all the events that happened,
because this is this is a monster one.

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This is a big movie and a
lot of stuff happens in it.

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M hm, mister Field. I
spent the whole drive home's thinking how I

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wanted to approach this, and I'm
gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna touch

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on I'm nervous, I'm nervous.
I'm gonna touch upon a point here.

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From when we reviewed Dune one,
someone left a review for us and they

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were actually really I think angry.
I think it was in regards to our

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Dune. It was either on our
doing one review or following that, someone

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commented about how we were talking about
doing speaking to it, but none of

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us read the books, and I
think we hit a nerve with this person.

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And I can totally respect and understand
that when you appreciate something you've read

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the books, you know the lore, you really care about its representation,

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it's adaptation, and how it's portrayed. I E halo. Uh So for

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me when I'm looking, when I
when I'm trying to understand this world,

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I really love the visuals. I
love these characters, and like you said,

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I love like you said, Kirk, I love rallying behind Paula Trdes.

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There's a lot going on that I
really love. But then there are

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other times, not this isn't a
spoiler, but I feel like there's there's

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some characters, one in particular,
which I won't say his name, but

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he does these expressions that look like
kind of confusion, and at times I

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felt like, man, I'm doing
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And I think it's not a strike
against this movie per se. I mean,

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maybe it is, I attributed to
just being a strike against my knowledge

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of this world and trying to clue
in and understand all of it because there's

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so much going on the way certain
scenes are cut, We'll see all of

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our characters in one scene, and
all of a sudden, it's just Paula

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Trates in this situation, and then
it's cutting to their characters landing in a

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ship or someone like well, I
feel like there's just there's some gaps here

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between certain certain scenes, which is
strange to say, because this is a

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long movie, and so I feel
bad to critique it. Everyone has been

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praising this movie. Everyone has been
loving this like true and true. But

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then a lot of these people that
have been loving it also have read the

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books. But then you have people
like yourself, Kirkle, and that I

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haven't read the books, but this
is making you want to read the books.

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I'd be lying with U said I
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This does create that incentive for me. But just as an on its own,

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I feel like it has really really
strong parts and other parts which just

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get hard for me to engage with. I find it difficult to engage with

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certain characters and really latch onto certain
characters aside from them having certain moments where

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I'm laughing because there's little comedic beats
in there, other moments where it's just

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like Wow, I'm definitely in awe
with this, but then there's other things

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in between where I'm just not really
connected with them, and so I just

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attribute that to maybe it is just
my lack of understanding of this world and

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my lack of understanding from not reading
the books. And so that's why I

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tried carefully because I don't want to
trigger anyone's nerve that's just super passionate about

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this, But I want them to
understand that I have not I'm not familiar

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with this, but I'm gonna do
my best to critique this as a film

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on its own and what it did. So there you have. Yeah,

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I I mean, those people can
fuck off, you know. Like our

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podcast, we're gonna talk with the
things we want to talk about. And

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if we haven't done the homework of
reading all these thousand page long books,

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they're probably pages so you can come
out and be wrong with that too,

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But I don't know. You go, sometimes we have a review or all

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of us have different levels of experience
with a certain thing with this. None

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of us have really read the books. If you're looking for a comparison between

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the book and the movie, this
is not the review for you. I'm

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sorry. I'm sure there's only other
podcasts out there doing it. But I'm

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glad you brought all that up,
Tailor. You you worded that really well,

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and so I'm just gonna say ditto, because I feel very similar to

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you on this, and I think
it is a fault of the movie for

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things being confusing or not really making
sense, or us as the viewer not

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having like the emotional investment because the
movie hasn't set up or explain certain things.

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And to me, like the perfect
example of why this movie kind of

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dropped the ball in some ways is
because the first movie was also very dense,

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with all these different factions and characters
and bloodlines and all this stuff,

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and I still came up with like
I feel like a ninety five percent understanding,

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and the things that I didn't understand
were like, I don't know what

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the ben Jessa it is, but
they're really interesting and mysterious and cool,

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Whereas in this the things that I
don't understand are just like, okay,

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that didn't really land for me because
I don't really understand who this character is

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and why I should care about this
certain things. So I think I feel

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very very similar to you on this
Taylor. Now, of course, this

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movie is absolutely gorgeous, Like just
the scale of it is amazing, some

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really great action and set pieces,
Like Kirklan said, just bringing in all

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these like world class actors. I
loved like all the characters in here,

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even if there's a few of them
that I don't really understand where they fit

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into the puzzle. And then therefore
it wasn't as emotional when certain things happen

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with those characters. And so yeah, I guess I'm feeling similar to like

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where you were a Kirklan at the
end of the first one. I think

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where I love so much this movie, and the first half I was like

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glued to the screen, completely immersed. Everything was making sense. There was

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a couple of things I was like
waiting for resolutions on, but I was

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so glued in. But then somewhere
along that second half, particularly in maybe

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the last like thirty forty five minutes, there were just certain things that weren't

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hitting as hard because I feel like
they weren't set up as well, or

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there are certain things that were pretty
anti climactic I felt. And then I

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think one thing that really left me
bummed when I was leaving the theater is

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that when I left doing Part one, and of course by the time we

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didn't realize it was really I mean, I know there's like multiple books and

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whatnot, but we didn't really realize
that it was going to be this part

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one part two thing. The movie
ended in a very much a cliffhanger,

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but it inspired so much like,
Man, I can't wait to see what

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happens next, and I can envision
or think about what those things are going

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to be at the end of this
movie. The things that they're setting up

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for the part three whatever, I
don't really have any investment in and I

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don't really care, and I don't
really know these factions that they're kind of

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alluding to. So I'm just felt
a bit more wanting. And this movie

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still ends in like a big cliffhangary
way. I don't think there's a big

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spoilery thing to say in a series
that has a million books in it,

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right, So I think that also
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So I don't know I probably came
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still love the movie for the most
part, but there's definitely a few things

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that make it weaker than the first
one for me, and hopefully through our

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discussions here on this review, a
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patched in, and then hopefully just
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online over the next few weeks,
I can really fill in some more of

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those gaps and hopefully those things don't
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I really feel like it's the job
of this movie to tell a coherent story

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without having to do all the homework
of reading these books and sounds like Kirkly

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you don't feel that way that me
and Taylor do, so hopefully you have

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some maybe some answers for us.
And I also haven't rewatched the movie in

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the first one in a while,
but I don't feel like the questions I

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have are related to like, oh
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the first movie. It's more like
the new new characters that have been introduced,

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and once again, maybe they're like
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and I'm just forgetting that so we
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but uh, yeah, should be
this should be a spicy one because we're

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on different sides of it where I
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the love best for like three hours. However long that review was, I

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think in a non spoil thing,
like I'll just show it the music because

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I don't really need to mention certain
scenes. It's just it's phenomenal. Again,

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it's so atmospheric, it adds to
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once again reverberating in the theater.
There was one scene unfortunate that I couldn't

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hear dialogue as the music. It
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and I was a little salty about
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he said in that moment. But
for the most part, it's just fucking

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stellar, like some of the best
music ever. And it's not like something

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I'm gonna put on Spotify. It's
not gonna be my Spotify rapped at the

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end of the year. But it's
just so frickin good. So big shouts

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to that. Anything else non spoilers
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and I guess I still absolutely recommend
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because this is this is one you
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the big screen with those speakers,
with the big h you know, the

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big screen all that. So definitely
go see it still, whether or not.

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I mean, I guess if you
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you don't need to. But still, everyone else, go see it.

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Any other non spoilery things, Nope. I so, okay, how about

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we take our first air break and
we'll be right back to get into these

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spoilers of Doom Part two. Okay, let's get into uh, let's get

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into this. I think there's many
ways we could start. I mean,

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the movie starts with Florence Pew in
this character, but I think we should

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maybe start by talking about like where
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right at the ending of Doom part
one with Paul and Lady Jessica and them

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kind of just getting integrated into the
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and this whole section I absolutely loved
it. I Mean, it's a very

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long part of the movie, but
I think just like them getting integrated into

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the group, meeting more of those
characters, like even you know, Channie

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is a character that was like barely
in the first movie, right, we

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just kind of barely met her.
But yeah, I love this section and

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I think it's just the world building
again, Like the world doing in this

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world in this series in general is
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and how they live in these lands
is so compelling. So once again,

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just seeing more of that was so
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like you mentioned that, like,
uh, Chhanni Zendea's character, Like I

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felt like she was so relevant even
though she wasn't in like the first part,

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which is kind of funny because she
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right, like he sees her from
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early on in the movie, so
you know she's coming obviously. We see

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her all over promotional material trailers for
this movie. Was like them just mack

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in and like he kept saying I
love you and but like that's it just

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seems so far from like where he
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And also just at the start of
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like he knew her name and that's
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really really suspicious of both Lady Jessica
and Paul for obvious reasons, because they

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are just foreigners, outsiders, and
the Freemen are just like such recluse of

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people that only trust themselves. And
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going to get to that point,
and I can safely say I was.

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I was so happy with how it
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rushed at all. It didn't seem
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the two big stars just just be
together for this reason. And although there

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is like time jumps for sure throughout
this movie, it's not like massive,

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to me. It didn't seem like
it was they they were all they all

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met together and then like went to
the the Fremen Zine I think it was

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called, and then they're just like
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like they there was an order of
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and also chances for Zendea's character to
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but then him just winning her and
the friend of people just over I

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felt like it was really natural and
I was I was really satisfied just with

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how we kind of got to the
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third act that changes that a lot,

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but I felt like all of that, just them getting in doctrine with

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the frem And way, I thought
all that was fantastic. I completely agree

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with you. I thought all that
was so fun, just seeing the little

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details on what goes on in their
world because we didn't see like their home

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base from the first part, right
like of the frim And people, So

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that was something that I was just
curious what they look like, Like,

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what are these people just living in
these dirt dirt holes or do they actually

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have like metropolises. And it was
pretty impressive just with all like the scripture

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and stuff, like all the detail
that they had in there, and there's

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zech there that was that was just
or sneak whatever whatever it's called. Seech

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right seach. Yeah, No,
you're totally right. I'm saying, zinch.

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That's a warhammer. Chaos god,
a lot of warhammers, said I

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saw in this movie that's coming out
of me. But yeah, for the

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first act, I thought it was
I thought it was fantastic. Yeah,

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and I think to seeing the more
of the faction divides within the frame and

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themselves, where you kind of have
still Guard and his crew who are like

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have been waiting for this messiah,
this chosen one to come up and save

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them and guide their people, versus
like Zendia and her Chany and her her

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friends and that side of the squad, and they still live together, and

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then there's other factions that you know, live separately, and we eventually go

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to the southern hemisphere of the planet
and whatnot. But I really like seeing

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just that vie and that little bit
of friction between these groups as well.

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But they still just I mean,
at one point, Paul mentions that they

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have like two hundred people in part
of their crew here that are doing all

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this, so like that's still like
a pretty small, like tight knit group

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of people, and of course there's
like a ton of them more in the

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Southern hemisphere. But yeah, I
really liked seeing that friction kind of building

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between these these two factions. Yeah. I like that you said that because

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it it totally going into part two. It just seems like the Fremen,

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Like that's the faction, you know, like like they are they are just

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a team, but like it's so
much more complicated than that, and I

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feel like that's what just makes it
so much more interesting learning more about the

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divide between the fundamental fundamentalists. I
think they're called like more Southerners that believe

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in this this messiah coming to get
them, and then like those I would

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just say are the more religious type
people. And then there's Chawnny and like

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her people that are just it seems
like they're just kind of more focused on

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the threat at hand versus believing in
this thing that could possibly never come.

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And yeah, it was just interesting
how they were able to work together but

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like still have these little divides.
So yeah, that was unexpected, but

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it was a pleasant, pleasant unexpected
event. Yeah, I'm going to piggyback

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off what you guys have said.
I think the whole intro was just wonderful.

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I love getting to see a character
kind of learn the ways and kind

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of get absorbed into this Culture's probably
why I love Avatar so much, so

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I think they did a really really
good job at having him understand and learn

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and not like excessively try to impress
or be super cocky. But except that

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he had his goals, he had
his agenda, and his agenda just kind

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of was in line with I guess
this prophecy. And I wasn't sure if

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this prophecy was just kind of shapened
by his mother, because I feel like,

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no, this prophecy is actually like
carved in stone, so I feel

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like it's just the it's just it's
just meant to happen. Is just this

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is where he's supposed to be living
to this living up to the status status.

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Right. Well, that's something too
that like the benjestrit are like highly

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involved with that, like that that's
a big thing throughout this movie actually is

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that like the whole prophecy, it's
not a prophecy at the frame and people

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had like since they're their roots.
It's it's highly just influenced I guess by

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the Benagestrate and the Benjester keep mentioning
that, you know, like they've been

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looking for I'm not even gonna try
to say it, but like the Ultimate

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Power, it starts with a K. It's it's it's a cool name.

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I should have looked it up before
this. Maybe I will when you guys

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are talking, but like that is
their goal. They've been looking for this

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for basically like decades, I think
maybe even centuries up until this point,

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and they keep mentioning how like they're
just it's not just all on Paul to

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be this messiah, Like there is
other prospects that they're looking for to be

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this ultimate power. And it's mentioned
multiple times in this movie that even in

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even in part one. Actually I'm
glad that I did watch it before this,

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because there is some seeds that are
sewed from the Benagestrate's position to just

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basically force the friend and people to
start believing this. And that's something that

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Shawny mentions multiple times that like this
isn't even our prophecy, like they say,

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this prophecy to keep us like obedient, essentially, like it gives the

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people something to think about and believe
in that maybe is an ulterior you know,

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motivation, and that's very much.
It's an interesting dynamic because the prophecy

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does still kind of help the frime
and people in my opinion, right like

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Paul does liberate them by the end
of this movie in one way, shape

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or form. Even Shawnee and her
people like it seems like it really rallies

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all of them together. So it's
just an interesting thing because it's so it's

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so gray area, like it's not
just black and white, like the Benicestriate

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are obviously evil because they're fucking over
the frame, and like that's not it

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at all, because it does help
them and it also gives them something to

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believe in, right in the sense
of being just like dictated by the hearken

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ins, Like it could be going
so horribly wrong for them, but it's,

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uh, that's just something that makes
the story so interesting and like that's

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that's just such a small part of
this overall story. So yeah, yeah,

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I to me, like the the
two storylines that were I guess my

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favorite in this were, I mean
just one of the Benjester in general.

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We'll talk about them a bit later
because there's so much interesting stuff going on

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with them, but also yeah,
just that whole idea of Paul Tritise and

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being this kind of messiah or what's
the what's the word for it? Again,

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I wrote it down, so I'm
gonna have to look them up the

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Malay dB something like that, right, Yeah, to me, I I

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found that so compelling because one thing
generally that they feel like I'm kind of

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sick of in me these days is
like the Chosen One sort of storyline.

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But I feel like this takes such
a great approach on it. Where with

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the Chosen One storyline, you know, the multiple ways you approach it.

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One can just be like, okay, character is we'll say arbitrarily, the

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chosen One, and so all these
things they can just they just magically happen

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for them, like everything just works
their way. All this fate right leads

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into them just like accomplishing all these
things. But what I love about the

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angle here is that Paul like it
could be that, but it also could

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not be. And as the viewer, even at the end of this movie,

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even after all that happens, I
still don't really know if there actually

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is some prophecy and it's fate that
he's been doing this for, or if

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he's just like risen to this because
he's gone through and he's checked all those

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boxes and whether, yeah, that
prophecy's written on the stone in the walls,

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but still it doesn't really mean that
that's what summoned him to do all

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this. It's just that he's going
through he's performing all this work, he's

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learning their ways, and he's just
like accomplishing all these goals that are the

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equivalent of what they think this Chosen
One is supposed to be doing. And

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so it's like this this beautiful kind
of gray area that I find really compelling.

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Like he obviously at the end of
the first one, he challenges that

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guy and wins that fight, and
then we just got to like keep ratching

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up the difficulty of things of him
being sent out to survive in the wilderness,

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and you know, like he doesn't
even do that on his own,

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Like Chawny helps him, like saves
him in that moment he rides a sandworm,

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which is like this whole part of
this prophecy, but once again he

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like learns how to do that step
by step. And then even later on

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just like fighting the Hearken in at
the end and leading all this stuff.

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he gets a bit of a boost at

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the end there because at that point
he's found out that he has hearkening blood

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in him and he's taking the water
of life, and I feel like that's

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what kind of kicks him into overdrive
and evolves him more. And maybe that

406
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,440
makes him once again seem like maybe
that's well, now it's obvious he is

407
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,279
a chosen one. But to me
at that point, like he's just taking

408
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,440
this drink and he's realized so much
about himself that has changed. But also

409
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,640
like that water is like pretty fucking
powerful and changes the guy in another way

410
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,920
too. So once again, at
the end of this, I don't really

411
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,519
know how I feel. I don't
know if he really is this kind of

412
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,759
chosen one or if he just rose
to the occasion. And I think that's

413
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,680
so compelling, and I'm excited to
see how that kind of evolves as this

414
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,079
as these movies go along, or
I don't know how many more there there

415
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,759
will be from the ny at least, but it happens, I'm curious to

416
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,799
see what happens there. I just
want to put out real quick that water

417
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:21,200
looked so good. Oh yeah,
guzzle it down like that bright blue water

418
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
sparkling, a lot of electrolytes in
there, even if it's coming out of

419
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,519
a nasty fucking wormy. I'll drink
some of that. It's like that episode

420
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,039
of a Futurama when they're getting the
slurm. It's like you don't want to

421
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:36,400
know where the slurm comes from.
But it's just so damn tasty. So

422
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:41,799
I found some names, so uh, and I apologize for a mispronunciation,

423
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,440
but disan al Gayib that's like the
messiah name that they keep calling them,

424
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,960
right, like the people that truly
believe in it. The names that he

425
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,680
gets in this movie is more deep, which is of course the kangaroo mouse,

426
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,440
and then Ussul, which is like
I think they say, it's like

427
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,720
the base of the pillar. Yeah, you got it. And then the

428
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:07,759
Quizats had a rak that's the that's
like the super overpowered thing that the the

429
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Benijester had been searching for. So
I'm glad I found those because I'm probably

430
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:18,880
I'll probably be referencing those multiple times
throughout this m. Another just smaller like

431
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,799
world building thing I really enjoyed was
the framing like sucking the water out of

432
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,160
the enemies that they defeat. Yeah, to reuse it and reusing it in

433
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,640
specific ways, And that was really
bothered Lady Jessica. She had to go,

434
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119
You had to go vomit a little
bit after finding it. Yeah,

435
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,599
she's been consuming, but you know, it seems like they use it more

436
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,799
for the breath what do they use
it for? Sorry, for the breathing,

437
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,559
not for the drinking. I guess
I think it's just to keep you

438
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,400
hydrated, right, like, so
you don't just dehydrate while you're in the

439
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,079
desert, like you're not necessarily drinking
it. But because even like in the

440
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,279
first part they mentioned like how I
think they're called the silt stuits silt whoa,

441
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,799
the silt suits or stilt suits whatever
they whatever, that the word they

442
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:03,759
are for it, like it,
like it it reuses your sweat too,

443
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,400
like it like it's just super super
sweet suits that they get that are super

444
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,880
helpful obviously mandatory on a planet like
Oracus. Yeah, I'm glad you brought

445
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,440
that up because even just again it's
a little bit of world building when uh,

446
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,880
what is his name still gar?
He was just lightly just mentioned that

447
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,440
their their water is so much chemicals, right that it's just the Hurricans are

448
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,359
just so just doing tons of shit
to their body. So I appreciate it's

449
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,519
just such a simple thing. And
but it's good enough for their filtration or

450
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:40,240
their their wet suits. They're h
their filters, so mm hmm. Yeah.

451
00:29:40,599 --> 00:29:42,960
And then I also like the like
the difference between taking it from their

452
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:48,240
enemies and like recycling essentially falling allies. How it's like super sacred to them

453
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:52,839
still guard mentions how like even if
even if they're dying of dehydration, like

454
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,319
they wouldn't touch these waters because it
is just so sacred. And that's where

455
00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,599
it like comes down, like that
big religion belief that they have and how

456
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,640
I forget how they say it,
but it's something like like like when you

457
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:11,920
die, like your your life essentially
goes back into racks. I think,

458
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:17,079
yeah, something like that. I
just liked all of that, the explanation,

459
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,799
I guess, and like it's just
world building for for how the from

460
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:25,359
and people live and and just work. And it's it's interesting because like they

461
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,559
are a big part of that first
part. That's a lot of parts I

462
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,640
just said, but there there's just
still so much mystery around these people.

463
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,440
So it was cool to like really
just get the first act to like finally

464
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:40,480
dive into them. I've been waiting
years to learn more about these characters.

465
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,119
Was there a proper reveal as to
why the or how the hearken? It's

466
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,119
knew where that was because that's such
a hidden location, right, And then

467
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,839
we just cut to them just blowing
it up scene out of avatarre That's what

468
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,720
it felt like, Kor it's just
bombing the world tree. That's what I

469
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:02,960
was pictured. I was waiting for
that. No, Taylor, I'm glad

470
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,880
you brought that up. That was
that was a big con for me,

471
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880
unless there is a solution of that. But I like, that's that's such

472
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,359
an important place. We've set it
up so much, and the fact that

473
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,599
it seems like just a random event
that they found this place that was like

474
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920
hidden very intentionally by the freeman,
Like, I feel like, especially like

475
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:26,039
that would be a great thing to
attach to Fade Rotha what's his name,

476
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,079
Austin Butler's Butler's character again, to
set him up as like a villain of

477
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,799
maybe he was the one who was
able to come in and determine based on

478
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480
some clues or something like that.
But it doesn't, it doesn't really get

479
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,119
associated to any one person. It
just seems like a random event. But

480
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,400
from what I can understand, like
that is their main seats, like their

481
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,640
main headquarters, their home base.
Obviously that's where they're Well of Souls is

482
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,519
and all that. So I was
I was disappointed that there wasn't really a

483
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,759
reason or a character associated with that
decision. It seemed just kind of like

484
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,440
a random event. I honestly thought
it was there Atomics that were blowing up

485
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,640
at first. I thought, Okay, someone sabotaging there ware because they set

486
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,079
up that, like there's multiple people
talking about ooh, there's a trader or

487
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:13,160
they're a spy like that first guy, like early on with the Framan and

488
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,359
then when when Gurney, like when
he joins the troop, like people are

489
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,119
questioning that too, like is he
is he a trader? Is he a

490
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,160
spy? And like that, None
of that ever turns in anything. There's

491
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,960
never a reveal for that, So
it doesn't seem like that was the case.

492
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,000
So if that's something they save until
part three to reveal, I think

493
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:34,200
that was like a mistake. They
should they should have mentioned that here.

494
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,480
In my opinion, I think that
there's there's some credibility to thinking that way,

495
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,559
although like they definitely in the back
half of the film, they really

496
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:46,079
focus on Gurney's loyalty to how the
trades and too Paula trades, but him

497
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:50,119
mentioning that he's a smuggler and how
he got off world all this stuff,

498
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:54,119
made a deal and then he's coincidentally
like you needed Paula trades genetics to unlock

499
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,240
this vault. I think, Okay, it's gurny, like does he want

500
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,359
this for a smuggling? Like I
just didn't trust it. But course that

501
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,519
is changed when we get to the
last act. Now, another thing connected

502
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,319
with that scene where we get the
place being attacked. I don't know if

503
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:14,839
I missed it, but I think
Shaklei was her name, Chinese friend she

504
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,119
was because she gets torched in there? Why why was she just captured and

505
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,079
thrown in there? Because I thought
they all were leaving. Yeah, they

506
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:30,240
mentioned like the Harricanans mentioned when they're
talking to what's his title too? It's

507
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,759
not Baron, It's like naw Baron
or something. It's like, oh yeah,

508
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:37,000
I guess just like new Baron.
Yeah, something like that. But

509
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,079
uh awsome Butler's character that the Harrikanans
are telling them that, like, yeah,

510
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:44,119
she stayed behind. And I thought
that was kind of strange because she

511
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:49,160
seemed like a like a pretty not
like not not a main character, but

512
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,240
like she was. She was Chownese's
like best friend, it seemed, and

513
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,720
she seemed like there was no real
reason for her to be like staying behind

514
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,000
it so like she was dying or
of sickness or something like. It didn't

515
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,119
really seem like it was ness.
So yeah, that's a fair critique for

516
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,519
sure. I was hoping that it
was gonna be something more like if like

517
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,760
this would be a moment to just
kind of strap some explosive to yourself if

518
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,400
you know you're gonna die, like
take out this new baron in that moment.

519
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,360
But she just kind of went out
and she took out She took out

520
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,039
nine of them. Yeah, with
the Chris knife. So that's pretty cool.

521
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:22,519
But yeah, that's that's fair.
And and what you guys were mentioning

522
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:27,079
with the the bombing of the siege
there, like that's definitely fair. I

523
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,760
was ex waiting for some sort of
explanation for that. It seems like although

524
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,400
I absolutely love this movie and like
probably wouldn't change anything unless I get like

525
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,000
a four hour accidented edition, I
feel like maybe that's where some of those

526
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,719
explanations could come in, Like maybe
you just have them looking at their big

527
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,039
map in the in like the war
room. It's just like, hey,

528
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,840
that this area seems kind of sus
let's go check it out and then maybe

529
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,159
you just see them, like I
don't know, tracking some frem and activity

530
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:58,280
in that area, and then they
just go with it like that. That's

531
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,880
an easy explanation there, But maybe
it's just too up some screen time.

532
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,679
So it just felt like certain moments
like that maybe were cut out. There's

533
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:07,519
certain moments either at the end of
act two or the beginning of Act three

534
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,599
that I felt really just really just
hit the fast forward button, Like there's

535
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:16,360
certain maybe interactions that I was wanting
between Shawnny and Paul. When Paul goes

536
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,519
south and just takes the potion,
it seems like the relationship just like ends

537
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,920
at it like it's complicated. Obviously
it's times of war, but I was

538
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,559
wanting a little bit more interaction between
those two. This is nearly a three

539
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,440
hour movie. Of course I want
more just because I loved what I was

540
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,679
getting. But it felt like there
was certain things that maybe were cut there,

541
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,400
and if it was just a decision
to just never show that, I

542
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,679
think that's kind of a con because
there definitely is some explanation that could be

543
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,159
used there. But yeah, no, I agree with you guys for the

544
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920
bombing of that area, I think
could have been explained, and a couple

545
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:52,960
other moments in the third act,
I thought, we're really just quickened.

546
00:35:53,239 --> 00:36:01,239
But I agree with you guys on
Shawnie's friend there didn't. Maybe my explanation

547
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:07,679
would be that she just was never
truly going along with Paul on that side

548
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,119
of the frim And camp, and
so she stayed behind kind of the way,

549
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:13,760
like Shawnny abandons them at the end
and goes off to do her own

550
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,599
thing. But I think the more
disappointing thing for me is that not getting

551
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,159
Shawnie's reaction or hearing and like,
how would she know that her friend died

552
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:27,599
specifically, Like she wouldn't really know. But I still think there should have

553
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,960
been some way that they convey that
too, for that character to have that

554
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:36,119
emotional moment where her finds out that
her what seems like her best friend has

555
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,480
died. But it's like, I
don't know, I don't think we would

556
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:43,559
in part three have some moment where
we come across that character's like burnt corpse

557
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,280
and she's like, oh, my
friend has died, and then we get

558
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,679
that there, Like it just seems
like something we're never gonna get. So

559
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,079
it seemed a bit odd concerning that
that character. You know, I had

560
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,159
a decent amount of screen time.
She didn't really have like an arc of

561
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:57,760
her own or anything. But yeah, she was still in there and seemed

562
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,480
important, And I'm still glad that
she was in there, just because I

563
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:05,320
like that Shawnee wasn't just used as
like an accessory to Paul in this movie.

564
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Like She's seemed like her own character
who had her own motivations, her

565
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,679
own friendships, and at the end
makes her own decision separate from him,

566
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,159
although he's definitely made it hard for
her to not make such a decision.

567
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,280
But yeah, I don't agree with
you guys on that absolutely. I feel

568
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,880
like that's a good theory that you
have there that because she definitely is more

569
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:30,440
on the opposite side of the fundamentalists
motivator vand Wigen. I guess, for

570
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:32,800
lack of a better term, she
always had something in the back of her

571
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,480
head that was like, I don't
know about Paul. Yeah, she didn't

572
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:38,880
really vocalize that necessarily, like in
the later scenes that she had, but

573
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,920
it still always felt that way,
even if she was cheering for him in

574
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,920
like the sandworm scene and whatnot.
I never really felt like they had some

575
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,440
deep bond or something. It seemed
like she always had something in the back

576
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,639
of her head that was saying,
something's off with this guy. It seems

577
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:54,800
like it seems like she always had
like the most critical thing to say too

578
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,480
when it would come down to like
the more fundamental ideas that the Framen had,

579
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:07,320
Like when Jessica is having the the
Water of Life potion, like she's

580
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,880
like laughing at it, like,
yeah, she's gonna die by drinking worm

581
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,239
piss, Like that's just like it
could probably be an extremely offensive thing.

582
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,039
Obviously Steellguard didn't like hearing that from
her, But yeah, so I think

583
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:22,360
it's just all ammo into what you
said that maybe she just she'd never had

584
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,920
any intention of going south. She
she doesn't even want to be a part

585
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,079
of that. Yeah, I think
she softened up a bit when I forget

586
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:31,159
exactly what the dialogue sequence was,
but it was something and then Paul was

587
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:36,480
like, yeah, they killed my
dad and all my people, and she

588
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:38,360
was like, oh shit, Like
I didn't realize that, it seemed like

589
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,719
and she Yeah, she seemed to
like soften up a bit after after that

590
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,599
point. Another thing I loved in
that earlier sequence just with Paul and bonding

591
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:51,760
with the framan is is when they
take out that spice harvester and they take

592
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,000
out multiple and we see like kind
of more what's the word, like more

593
00:38:55,079 --> 00:39:00,320
montage of like them taking out later
devices and spice hards but like that that

594
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,360
first main one we get where at
first I thought that Paul, because he

595
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,639
we had just seeing that he was
out here surviving in the wilderness on his

596
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,320
own, and I thought that little
like spike he had coming out of the

597
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,679
ground was like his tent or something
like he was sleeping underground. And it

598
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,119
seems like they were maybe trying to
set up that way because you only see

599
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,119
his and that harvester's coming in.
But then you then it zooms out and

600
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:23,840
you see all these different little spikes
and they were obviously like waiting for this,

601
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,440
So it's kind of like a weird
cut there where we're thinking he's on

602
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,639
this wilderness thing, but then it
cuts to like them taking out this harvester.

603
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,159
But that was a really fun action
sequence. I really liked the scale

604
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:37,840
of that. I like the teamwork, and I like that it was like

605
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,920
some good thinking on his part and
knowledge of obviously this ship that's like one

606
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,360
of the ships from I guess that
he would have used when he was back

607
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,639
in the er Keene right as the
name of the capital, so he kind

608
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,679
of knew about this weakness of or
I guess just that their shields go down

609
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,480
when they have to shoot as well. So it was a good moment for

610
00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,440
him as well to show that he's
pretty smart, and he helped to turn

611
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,199
the tide of that battle because that
that what are the name of those coppers

612
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,519
again, the dragonfly things? I'm
not sure. Yeah, I have no

613
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:08,559
idea. Whatever they call it,
they got thing was destroying their numbers.

614
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,960
So that was a good turn of
the tides there. So I really like

615
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,920
that that cannon that it had seemed
incredibly overpowered, like it was just it

616
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:21,039
was like a shot shot guy,
Yeah, take it out like six at

617
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,719
a time. All the guns in
this movie, like especially the framing ones,

618
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,079
like the little sniper ones, just
I love those those laser beams,

619
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,000
Like if they could have stormed the
capitol with with those things, like oh

620
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:39,679
my god. Yeah, I guess
you could just argue that the air air

621
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,360
warfare would have just taken them out, but I don't know. Yeah,

622
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,599
they seem pretty strong. Yeah,
that that sequence when they're ambushing the spice

623
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:53,079
harvester and pretty much all the combat
sequences. I'm just like man doing spice

624
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,079
worse man that that game is just
it's calling to me. I saw,

625
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:02,880
I got adown it just it just
went on sale, which is good timing

626
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,639
for the release of this movie.
But yeah, it was on game Pass.

627
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,159
People go check it out if you
subscribe to that. Let's see.

628
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,400
I'm trying to think what else we
even talked about from this kind of earlier

629
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:20,599
sequence. I mean, you mentioned
Florence Pugh's character, and she she does

630
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,599
pop in a couple of times.
She really makes appearance, like near the

631
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,719
end when they when they're all together. But I kind of liked her as

632
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,000
just this like mini narrator as well. Like her voice is obviously the first,

633
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,360
well it's not the first one you
hear. You hear the classic like

634
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:40,480
Soda Car, like before the Warner
Brothers comes in. I like how they

635
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:44,320
have that. I only know that
it's the Soudo Car because when I recently

636
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,000
watched it, I had subtitles and
it says soda car and then whatever the

637
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,719
word is. But yeah, I
liked her narrating it. I like how

638
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,280
it's kind of just an outside perspective
on what's going on on Aracus to just

639
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,920
her discussions with her father or the
benajest right lady. I just I don't

640
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,400
know. I liked her usage because
obviously big fan of Florence Pew, I

641
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,440
was excited to see her in this
movie and she's not really like a main

642
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:15,960
player for a big portion of it. But just just the way that she

643
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,599
was used, I really really liked. It. Wasn't overused, it wasn't

644
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:22,159
underused. It it felt really good. And also just it seemed like a

645
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,159
good like calendar or like clock at
times because she would she would narrate like

646
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,880
year ten and ninety one, So
then in my mind, I'm like,

647
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,400
Okay, it's a year since the
first movie. And then she says like

648
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,639
the third comment or something like that, and then later on it's like the

649
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:42,639
eighth comment. I have no idea
what that means in reference, but I

650
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
know time has passed at least,
so I just kind of like, Tew,

651
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,800
those moments reused. Can I ask
you a questioning here, because I'm

652
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,719
assuming Taylor, maybe you're in the
same boat with me here. I never

653
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,800
really understood where she fell into things, and I feel like by the end

654
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,519
of maybe I've a been to my
idea, but her and her father,

655
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:07,679
like because I always saw the Duke. The Duke was like the highest tier

656
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,960
in the Hearkening. But then they're
like above him, are they kind of

657
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,280
like an alliance? Like I don't
really understand where they fit into the political

658
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:22,360
side of things. Family like you
and the Emperor? Yeah where Yeah,

659
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,159
So he's like the Emperor of the
Imperium, which is like the empire,

660
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,079
and then they have these great houses
I think it is what they call them.

661
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:31,800
They make up the empire, right, yeah, exactly, So the

662
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,599
Emperor is in charge of everyone and
then like the baron, Baron Vladimir Harkening,

663
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,400
that's just like a great house.
And then he's obviously making big moves

664
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,480
and was backed by the Emperor,
which is like a big conspiracy, right,

665
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:51,360
like it it should never be that
way. The reason why they made

666
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,800
that that move from the first film
was because House of Treats was starting to

667
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,639
just gain a lot of popularity amongst
the great houses and kind of making people

668
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,480
think differently when it comes to like
the Imperium and such. So the Emperor

669
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:07,599
didn't like that and he backed the
Hearken insh but he kind of made it

670
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,880
seem like it was mostly just a
hearkening invasion, like the fact that he

671
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,400
sent his Saudokar army to Aid,
like no one knows that that happened,

672
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,079
Like that's that's that's like a hush
hush scenario, and that's why they burned

673
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,679
I think all the bodies and got
the Saudakar out of there by the end

674
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,039
of the first film, So it
just looked like a hearkening invasion. But

675
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:29,960
even then, like I felt like
the other houses would been like what's going

676
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,559
on here? Like why is the
Hearkens just just murdering These these are treades.

677
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:37,599
They don't treaty, right they said, ye, treaty is like no

678
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,280
more after after that attack, and
it's not like there's repercussions, right Like

679
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,079
if I'm if I'm one of the
other great houses and that happens, it's

680
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:45,199
like, hey, Emperor, like
what are you gonna do about this?

681
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:50,760
Like that these people just broke the
treaty and you're doing absolutely nothing. Maybe

682
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,639
like maybe it's a book thing.
Maybe maybe it's hard to tell that in

683
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,079
a movie. Maybe it's a third
movie thing, like I don't really know,

684
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,440
but uh, did I cover your
question? I don't even know fully

685
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,920
when I asked there, I guess
just where where they aligned. Yeah,

686
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,719
yeah, I mean I guess.
Uh No, you definitely answered my question.

687
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,199
So then well this is kind of
jumping to the end, but I

688
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:17,199
mean it's a related question of Paul
wanting uh Florence P's character's name is.

689
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:27,400
I wrote it down, Princess something
like that, So princess. He wants

690
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,480
to marry her, so then he
would be in that emperor position and have

691
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:36,920
like power over all the houses.
Political move for sure, Yeah, because

692
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,039
they mentioned that at the end or
not at the end, sorry, like

693
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:44,800
halfway through the movie, I think
for part one where I think it's Jessica

694
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,719
that proposes it, like just a
political move would be to marry into the

695
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,199
family of the ruling emperor. I
don't really know how like the politics work

696
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,920
on that, like if it is
just a monarchy and no matter what,

697
00:45:58,119 --> 00:46:00,880
like that family is going to be
the emperor. But like by the end

698
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,840
of this film, technically Paul duels, you know, like the emperor for

699
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:14,960
Rain and that's why the nab baron
Austin Butler's character is his champion, like

700
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:21,719
he's fighting for him, similar to
how Paul stepped in for what happened at

701
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,320
the end of the first film when
Jessica is challenged by that other fremin person.

702
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,440
So that's that was kind of like
a move. I guess that was

703
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,000
always a plan, was for him
to just take her hand. This was

704
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,920
a lot more direct because the Emperor
actually came to a Racus and Paul.

705
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,840
I still thought by the end Paul
was just gonna fucking shank him and just

706
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,719
murder him for the death of his
family and kind of held back there.

707
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,280
But yeah, a little bit confused
on the overall politics, but that that

708
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,480
move, I felt like it was
gonna happen. Paul, Tradus, Atreus,

709
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:59,480
and the I guess the Freeman,
like they're now aligned with the Harken

710
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,639
in because the Hearkening still exists.
They don't have those three people, but

711
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:07,760
there's still, right, hundreds of
thousands of millions of giddy Prime. Yeah,

712
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,039
I claim right, because he is
he's a Hearkening. Yeah, I

713
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,639
could definitely see that becoming a thing
in the next film, especially like they

714
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:19,559
mentioned Holy Wars. I don't know
exactly what that means, but they the

715
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:24,079
other houses are definitely not wanting to
align with the trades. It seems okay.

716
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:29,039
Yeah. See that's the other thing
I don't really understand, because if

717
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,159
he's in the emperor seat and those
other houses are like under the emperor,

718
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,360
then wouldn't he like control those houses? I think, yeah, I think

719
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:39,920
technically, But like whenever there's a
changing of the guard, I feel like

720
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,760
there's always some pushback, and it
seems like the great houses are already sus

721
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,400
on it now. I don't think
it's gonna be full on conflict from the

722
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,159
get go. But because technically,
the great houses don't even know what happened

723
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:54,440
to house the Trades, right,
Like all they know is what the Emperor

724
00:47:54,440 --> 00:48:00,920
would have told them. And when
the dialogue between the Emperor and Paul,

725
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,079
like before he does the duel,
is like like, you know, the

726
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,000
great Houses are here, like it
seems like they're ready to invade you,

727
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,159
and he's like, well, I
think they'd rather hear my side of the

728
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:15,559
story, because that's just not a
known thing because up until he takes his

729
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:21,800
mask off, nobody even knew that
what's his name mud Deep was Paul,

730
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,719
right, Like everybody just assumed Paul
was dead. House the Trades was just

731
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:30,119
completely decimated, except for the who
seemed to know the whole time that he

732
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,800
was. Yeah, but like they
just seem like they're on their own party,

733
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,719
Like even the Reverend mother I believe, like the one that's with the

734
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,320
Emperor, Like it seems like she
obviously knows a lot that she's not telling

735
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,559
the Emperor, which she even told
that to Florence P's character, the Princess,

736
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:46,920
which that was a shock. I
didn't realize she was going to be

737
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,119
a benegest rate. I'm curious if
the Emperor even really knew that. I

738
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,880
don't know. He kind of seems
aloof for the most part. Right,

739
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:01,159
nice, Okay, that makes a
lot more sense to me now, But

740
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:07,159
I guess that's where I still feel
like I don't know how motivate I'm going

741
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,280
into the third one now, where
it's like, Okay, we're gonna go

742
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,320
declare war on these other houses,
but like I don't know any of them.

743
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:19,719
We haven't been introduced any characters from
those houses either. Yeah, So

744
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960
it's it's kind of a weird setup
in that this feels like almost a complete

745
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,480
resolution to these two parts. And
I guess you could just like end it

746
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,280
here, but then they do still
have that setup of like let's go fight

747
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,400
some other houses, so well,
you could literally just change it, like

748
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,519
when Gurney gets the news that they're
like they're not obliging, they could just

749
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,719
switch it to yeah, they're down, like like they accept it, and

750
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,199
then that's the end of the two
parts right there. Right. It's funny

751
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,599
because it did feel very resolved by
the end of this, like when he

752
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:53,760
defeats Austin Butler's character and then like
the Emperor kisses his ring. It's just

753
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,880
like that seems like that could be
the end of the story. And then

754
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,679
it's like, yeah, no,
they're there, they don't don't accept your

755
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,119
offer. Okay, well let's keep
going with more movies. That's how it

756
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,840
felt for me, because when we
were getting close to the end, I'm

757
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,239
just like, how are they going
to keep making parts for this? It

758
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,920
seems like this is kind of the
end of the story, and like how

759
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,960
do they have all these books on
the story? It seems like Dune,

760
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,039
like this planet is kind of resolved, and so we're gonna maybe go to

761
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:22,079
the Cosmos, But I don't know, I feel like this planet seems to

762
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,199
be. I mean, it's the
name of the series. I imagine it's

763
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:29,679
Goodness still a revolver around this,
so I don't know, we'll see what

764
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:37,039
happens the Emperor and the Princess.
I like. I like Florence Pugh's portrayal

765
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:40,079
here and and just as you said, just the narration that she was bringing

766
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,159
and time stamping too. I really
like that. But with the Emperor,

767
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,800
maybe it's just because we didn't see
him really in the first film, but

768
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,000
getting him here, I don't know, Like I almost would have liked it

769
00:50:55,079 --> 00:51:00,559
better if we didn't see him in
any of these little small scenes until right

770
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:07,679
then and there we saw him just
like landing on on Aracus and just really

771
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,760
getting to see him for the first
time there, because I don't know,

772
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,960
I just I feel like there wasn't
there wasn't enough of a connection at least

773
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,480
that I was able to make to
this character leading up to this intense moment.

774
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:20,159
I almost would have liked it if
there was just maybe nothing and we

775
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,119
just he was just dumped and like
we just he's just he is who he

776
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:28,519
is, He's the Emperor and whatnot. But I feel like everything that we've

777
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:34,159
seen leading up to it, it
felt like he didn't have justified motivations for

778
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,639
why he did what he did.
I feel like he was just being questioned

779
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:44,719
and when there was like the fallout
of taking out House of Trades and now

780
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,039
you're dealing with the Fremen, and
he's just leaning on his princess, his

781
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,320
daughter, and I feel like he
just didn't feel like a very confident and

782
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,920
very certain emperor. He felt very
like a weak one. And maybe that's

783
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,360
supposed to be. He did feel
like old and frail and yeah, and

784
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,039
maybe maybe he's supposed to be portrayed
that way. Maybe that's why he is

785
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,880
terrified off House the Trades or someone
uprising against him. But I kind of

786
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,079
take it that he's like really just
kind of like a puppet for the Benedicester,

787
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,360
like they are just so in his
head, and maybe they're just like

788
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,039
feeding him, you know, purple
liquids instead of blue liquid, something that's

789
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,960
like fucking up his mind so that
they can morph him and do what they

790
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:27,559
want from kind of behind the shadows
a bit, Like maybe that's what's going

791
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,599
on there. But I agree with
you, and I guess Kirkland as someone

792
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,239
who just watched the first movie again
like hours ago, Like are they talking

793
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,440
about the Emperor a lot? Because
that was something going in Toto this.

794
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:40,079
I'm like, I felt a little
blindsided by where I don't know going too

795
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:45,199
this like man the hearkenins or this
big big headlaun show. But then to

796
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,760
have like, oh, but then
there's kind of this what feels like an

797
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,239
arbitrary guy above them, like a
bit of a blindside. So maybe maybe

798
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,360
I just haven't watched rewatched the first
movie enough when I wasn't prepared for like

799
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:00,639
the Emperor to be a big part
of the Hearkening story here. Yeah,

800
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,920
Like he's obviously not in the first
one, but I think his influence has

801
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,000
definitely felt throughout the whole film,
because the whole reason why a House of

802
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,599
tradees even goes to Aracus, right
is by decree of the Empire of the

803
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:17,199
Emperor. And like I already said
that, like the whole plan for Paul

804
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,960
to marry the princess, to to
get in with just that family and get

805
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,360
close to the Emperor. That was
said, And then they do mention actually

806
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:34,719
like through dialogue between Beast Robin and
Robin rob On whatever they call him.

807
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:43,199
Dave Batiz's character and Baron Vlad of
just more so of like that emperor influence.

808
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,320
Now, they never seem like they
are ones to like obey the Emperor.

809
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,960
They most of the time in close
quarters are kind of shit talking him

810
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
and like they're always just kind of
making their own plans. But like they

811
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,960
do kind of have to hit these
check marks to at least in the publics,

812
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,760
I you know, like like obey
the emperor because there can be repercussions

813
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,239
on the political scale. Like that's
why Baron bows to the Emperor right by

814
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,800
the end of this movie, even
though it seems like he would never do

815
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,800
that on his own free will.
It's just like a stage thing. But

816
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,400
yeah, like I definitely think that
his influence is there. And maybe I

817
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,280
wouldn't have felt that way if I
hadn't seen it so recently because it isn't

818
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:28,519
super relevant. It mostly is just
about the Hertkenins and a tradese and like

819
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,880
the Saudikar, right, like that
is that is the Emperor's army, and

820
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,000
like I don't think it's mentioned in
the first movie, like it's just it's

821
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:43,000
just his army. But I believe
that the family of the Emperor, and

822
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,000
I could be mistaken by this,
but I'm pretty sure I am right here,

823
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:49,000
So I apologize if I get this
wrong, but I'm pretty sure how

824
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:52,679
it works is like the family of
that emperor, like that lineage is actually

825
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,039
like originates from Saudakar, like that
planet. I don't think it's called Sadakar,

826
00:54:55,159 --> 00:55:00,400
but those people, So it's tied
to their similar how the heart have

827
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,760
Giddy Prime I think it's called and
just their people, like are the Hearkenins

828
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,840
the Saudi Car people is like the
Emperor, but I do know the planet

829
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,679
that they showed off in the first
film. That's like where the Saudi Car

830
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,719
people originated from. But it's just
such a harsh planet that the Emperor doesn't

831
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,440
actually live there. Like the political
side is it's almost like a coroiscant type

832
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:29,000
thing if you think of Star Wars, which is like the metropolitan planet where

833
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:35,480
people do business. Yeah makes sense. Oh yeah, I swear. I'm

834
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,400
not trying to just overly critique this, but just these things keep popping up

835
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,199
cohesively when we're talking about certain things, like the Emperor here for example,

836
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:49,480
I love I guess this is more
of like a positive I love the strategy.

837
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,920
I love the tactics. I love
seeing the armies and everything like that.

838
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:55,480
With this world, it's so visually
appealing and really pulls me in.

839
00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:01,840
I feel like I'm playing an RTS
game and I love it. But I

840
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:07,480
I mean, I am no military
leader. I'm not an emperor of multiple

841
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:12,159
space houses. But it seems like
a bold decision to just put your all

842
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,440
year ground Armada just boots on the
ground, literally boots on the ground,

843
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:20,599
just standing out there like that.
That was that was bold. And now

844
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:25,079
I know they didn't know that there
were atomics, but that's bold. I

845
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:29,880
think it's I think it's definitely bold
and not a good strategy. It's it

846
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,320
really comes up for me just like
a power move, like look at look

847
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,519
at my radiance. You know that
is the empire, Like he has this

848
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,559
glowing orb that's just this like ball
of beauty right Like it's like a chandelier

849
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:45,239
just floating in the sky. Which
the fact that they actively burning spice to

850
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,079
like keep keep power, keep its
own powered. Which yeah, they like

851
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,280
literally had like a full temple that
they like I don't know how they deployed

852
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,400
that like below the ship, but
it's just like some people bring their entourage

853
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,920
with like a tent or something like
a like a palaquint like chilling in StarCraft.

854
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,280
Yeah, how their ships can fly. That's very much how it felt,

855
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,480
which like from a bird's eye view, it looked really intimidating. But

856
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:14,079
like the Emperor ignored his Saudi car
general being like, there's a massive storm

857
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,559
in here, we should probably go
to atmosphere and he's like, that's fine,

858
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,159
We'll just we'll take it. We'll
take it. Like do they not

859
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,639
know about worms? Like Paul Trdes
before he came to Oracus was just watching

860
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:28,480
these like vlogs on like what is
all about Oracus? Like does no one

861
00:57:28,719 --> 00:57:32,440
on the Emperor's flem what do they
call just roster? I guess, like

862
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:37,880
does nobody have these videos just knowing
that there's worms out there? But yeah,

863
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:40,199
it's agreed. Taylor is a little
bit bold. It's one of those

864
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:43,239
things though, where it just makes
me wonder, like, man, how

865
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,119
much of this is like the benjestert
or these other factions just like so deep

866
00:57:47,199 --> 00:57:52,199
in it that they planted this whole
things that they would get fucked up and

867
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,119
that Paul would join in and they
have control over Paul because of Lady Jessica

868
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,639
like all these other things, which
maybe these are just hair brain schemes at

869
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:01,639
some point, but that was something
that was a bit disappointing for me in

870
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:07,000
the final Battle of this movie,
because when it first was getting set up,

871
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,199
I was like, Oh, my
god, are we gonna get like

872
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,880
Battle of Helms Deep here? Like
are we getting this, like finally another

873
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,239
battle on that scale, because just
all the set up to looking at the

874
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,719
map, he's pointing all these things, and it's like, oh, on

875
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,639
the third day, like look to
the mountains, there was gonna be up

876
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:24,679
there, all this stuff, like
the sand worms coming in, shooting the

877
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,159
missiles like specifically into the rocks because
I'm sure they had like barriers or something,

878
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,039
and then the rocks are gonna fuck
them up, and then they're coming

879
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:34,440
out of the sand. All that
stuff was so cool, But then I

880
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:37,679
was like, man, the Harkens
like didn't have any plan, they didn't

881
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,000
fight back at all, and then
the soda pop whatever you're saying over here.

882
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:44,480
These guys like didn't have any plan, they didn't really fight back,

883
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,639
and so it just felt like too
much of a single phase like one sided

884
00:58:47,719 --> 00:58:52,159
battle. Yeah, what is set
up is like this the you know,

885
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:57,199
biggest empire in the whole whatever settled
systems or whatever they call this stuff,

886
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,840
so I don't know the terms,
but it was it was a bit disappointing.

887
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:01,639
I love that setup, Like the
first five minutes of it was great,

888
00:59:01,679 --> 00:59:05,559
and then it just felt a little
anti climactic. And then for me

889
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:14,159
too with Vlad Baron Vlad how he
you know, I was I was building

890
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:16,679
up this moment too and like a
trade and Paul getting his revenge, and

891
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,800
he did that, but it just
felt like kind of lame that they kind

892
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,760
of just like backstabbed him. They
took him out of his little copter thing

893
00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:25,719
and he was just on the steps
there, and it just I don't know.

894
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,000
I guess in my head maybe I
was building up too much of what

895
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:32,079
this battle could have been like.
But I think between that and the actual

896
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:36,599
battle not really having any fight back, it just felt it felt a bit

897
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:39,519
too easy for me. Unfortunately,
it felt exactly the opposite of how the

898
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,599
Hearken and taking out the Freeman home
base before, where it was just this

899
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,760
random thing. It wasn't really a
battle. It was just a one sided

900
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,440
barrage, and so I felt like
it was I don't know, the better

901
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,800
fights in this were like the one
on one battles between people. I felt

902
00:59:52,800 --> 01:00:01,039
like the army level fights didn't really
achieve that same level of grandiose That's fair

903
01:00:01,239 --> 01:00:06,480
I personally, for me, it
did work because of just all of the

904
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:10,360
different factors that were helping, like
the Fremen and Paul's forces, Like,

905
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,599
not only do they have these fucking
giant sandworms, but they have this mother

906
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:20,639
of all storms coming. You have
the Emperor and his people and the hearkenins

907
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:24,280
just in like the worst possible strategic
location, Like they're just surrounded by everyone,

908
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:30,079
which is yeah, like there's no
way that they're able to get out

909
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,760
of this mess. Yeah, they're
completely surrounded. As we already said,

910
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,880
what else do we have in there? The atomics, like it just every

911
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:44,119
like it just seemed like no outcome
would have been good for the emperor and

912
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:49,239
for me it worked in that sense
because you have just juiced up Paul that's

913
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,239
on this way the water of life
that he's just like he sees this path

914
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:58,519
that like there's no possible way that
they could lose if it all goes well,

915
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:00,519
And it did all go well,
right, Like even when the Emperor

916
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:06,639
was landing, I think it's still
guard or someone says like, oh,

917
01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:09,199
exactly as he saw, because like
the mother of all storms is coming this

918
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:14,440
way. So it was just it
just seemed like there was no outcome,

919
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,440
you know, when Thanos was taken
over, there was the one chance,

920
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:20,679
Like it didn't seem like there was
one chance for the Emperor and his lads

921
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,159
there and for me, it just
it just worked that way. I think

922
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:29,440
ever since the super epic rally of
the troops moment when Paul just walks into

923
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:31,519
like the super sacred place of the
frem and we can get into, you

924
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,880
know, more specifics of that scene
after, but ever since that moment,

925
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,079
I was just like, holy fuck, like this is the Messiah I believe,

926
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,559
Like when they when they're all cheering
him, I feel like just standing

927
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:44,159
up in the theater and just like, yeah, I want to follow Paul

928
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,440
to the to the ends of the
earth. I was just so hyped so

929
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,960
the fact that it was just such
a dominant victory. I was just eating

930
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,880
it up. I was eating it
up in all those moments. But I

931
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,400
do completely agree with you. I
think the most the most on edge I

932
01:01:57,519 --> 01:02:00,320
felt in any combat sequence would have
been like the one on one battles because

933
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:05,239
they they do a really good job
with the hand in hand combat in all

934
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:10,199
these movies. It's it's quite impressive. Yeah, it's fun. M How

935
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,119
about we take our next break,
take a little leb brick, We'll get

936
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:16,880
a little breather here, and we'll
come back for some more Dune Part two.

937
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:23,880
Okay, we are back. Where
do we want to go next?

938
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,360
I well, I guess maybe I'll
finish off a couple of thoughts I had

939
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,719
on the Emperor and the Princess here. One of the Emperor, Like,

940
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,800
I mean, I love Christopher Walking. I don't think he really got to

941
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,960
do a whole lot in this movie
in terms of like acting or a specific

942
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,039
scene, even though was given him
to just act as ass Off. So

943
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,639
not a character that I was particularly
attached to. But I am now with

944
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:51,079
more information from you guys, like
excited to see what happens with that character

945
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,199
going forward and into part three and
then for the for the Princess, I

946
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,119
mean, you know Florence Pugh,
she's just amazing, so I really like

947
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,119
her in this. I liked her
role kind of as a pseudo narrator.

948
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,079
As you said, there and that
was a good way to break up,

949
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,480
just help the pacing as well,
just giving you some different things setting it

950
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:13,920
up there. And man, I
got to say her in that like medieval

951
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,320
sort of armor thing, she was
so freaking cute in that, Like her

952
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,639
eyes just popped so hard. Like
I thought that was a great outfit.

953
01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:22,719
I mean, in general, like
the costume design in these movies, in

954
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,119
the first one this one are just
outstanding. But yeah, I particularly liked

955
01:03:28,159 --> 01:03:31,719
her kind of medieval armor there with
like the weird little I don't know chimes

956
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:35,599
that were like hanging out front two
over her forehead. I just thought it

957
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:37,679
was it was so cute. So
I really liked really like that, and

958
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:43,280
once again kind of a character that
I'm excited to see going forward. Even

959
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,840
though I don't think she had some
some fun scenes here. I liked her

960
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,079
little journal scenes and just all the
world building tech of that and that little

961
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:53,079
like spoken journal that she had that
recorded her thoughts I thought was pretty interesting.

962
01:03:53,239 --> 01:03:58,320
So yeah, any other thoughts on
those characters or could we move to

963
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,159
another section? Yeah, I agree
with the Emperor. I was. I

964
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,239
was kind of let down with it. I felt like Christopher Walkin just has

965
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,559
such a. I don't know,
he's like he's he's a certain actor that

966
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,559
I just feel like I see Christopher
Walking in and I was kind of not,

967
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:15,800
I don't want to say not looking
forward to it, but I was

968
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,119
curious how it was gonna go.
And it kind of went the way that

969
01:04:18,159 --> 01:04:20,599
I was expecting, Like I just
kind of saw Christopher walking. I felt

970
01:04:20,599 --> 01:04:24,400
like the best moments were when it
didn't seem like Christopher walking. I was

971
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,480
waiting for like his like his like
classic lines or a certain way that he

972
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,960
maybe he would say a line that
I've just seen in like every movie that

973
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,079
he's done, it seems, and
I thought it might be kind of comedic

974
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,320
in that sense. I know he
has dramatic roles, but it just seems

975
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:42,079
like lately I've mostly seen him in
comedies. So I just kind of saw

976
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:45,760
that in The Emperor, and I
almost just would have wished I got like

977
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:51,280
a less a less known actor maybe
for that role. But I don't want

978
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,920
to put too much negativity on that
because, like you said, like it's

979
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,320
not like he does too much in
this really, it's not like there's a

980
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,800
lot of powerful monologues scenes that he's
really able to like have gravitas kind of

981
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,239
like how Baron Vlad has in the
first movie, like when he likes but

982
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:09,599
he's not just like another version of
Black. Yeah, we don't want like

983
01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:12,400
another guy like that, especially when
the heart, you know, want you

984
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,159
want the Emperor to be a bit
more charismatic, not that he is terribly

985
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:21,239
charismatic, he's not like actively horrifying, like like like the Baron. Yeah,

986
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,639
no, one hundred percent. So
a little bit let down there,

987
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,719
but it doesn't really take away from
the story too much for me. But

988
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:30,639
with Florence, yeah, I thought
she was. I thought she was ten

989
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:32,599
out of ten for how she was
used. I can't wait to just see

990
01:05:32,639 --> 01:05:39,320
her moving forward interacting with Paul and
just knowing that she is a ben adjesturate

991
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,440
member, Like how is she going
to try and you know, pull Paul's

992
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,760
strings of kind of like how we've
seen the other Reverend mother kind of pull

993
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:51,239
the strings of the Emperor and just
have her own influence, because it seems

994
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,599
although she is a ben adguesturate,
it seems like maybe she's a new member

995
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,159
or like she's not necessarily a new
member, but like she doesn't have have

996
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:05,559
the same like clear motivations that maybe
like the other reverend mother has or Jessica

997
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:10,920
seems like she always kind of has
a plan of her own. Leah Sadu's

998
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,679
character too, like just a certain
way that they carry themselves. She seems

999
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,920
a lot more inn yet either.
No, yeah, but maybe she does,

1000
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:20,519
but she's just holding it back,
Like I, we just haven't seen

1001
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:24,719
it really interact in that sense.
So very excited looking forward with her.

1002
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,880
But yeah, I thought she one
hundred percent delivered. Mm hmm, I

1003
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,360
guess going back then, So we
eventually with the frame and we move south

1004
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:40,519
to go rally the troops down there. I really liked the visual difference between

1005
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:42,800
the south of Iracus, because they
keep setting it up, but it's like

1006
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,679
inhabitable. It's so different down there, all these huge storms and whatnot.

1007
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,639
And I think they did a good
job of like how do you really make

1008
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,920
this planet that's just sand make it
look visually distinct? And I think they

1009
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,159
did a really good job of making
the sand just taking away the spice,

1010
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,320
taking away that that life that reads
through the air, and just make it

1011
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,039
more more barren and more rocky.
I thought you did a really good job

1012
01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:09,079
of that. I liked seeing that, And yeah, I think that that

1013
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:13,840
sequence h some of those scenes we
get down there were we're pretty good.

1014
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,119
Where after well, I guess during
that scene when Paul he drinks the drink,

1015
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:23,360
the liquid passes out and then Shawnee
comes in. First of all,

1016
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,360
I gotta say, Kirkland, fuck
you fucking Travis for this goddamn meme with

1017
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,960
this fricking sound effect, because this
is like a very emotional scene in this

1018
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,039
when Shawnie's having this huge reaction and
then we just get the fucking singing.

1019
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:44,639
I had to do it. I
had to do it. I had to

1020
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:48,159
crack up laughing in the theater.
And it's like, man, I don't

1021
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:51,239
even like this meme, but I'm
just so ingrained in my head at this

1022
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,960
point, so that that took me
out of it. So, uh,

1023
01:07:55,199 --> 01:07:58,280
you know, you guys, you
guys win in this this regard. Did

1024
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,880
that so lately take you out of
that scene to it that it is a

1025
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,440
meme and we've just possibly over used
it maybe a little bit too much.

1026
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,400
But for me, I feel like
every time I hear that, I just

1027
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,960
get so pumped up. Now I
will say I was smiling in that scene

1028
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:17,039
because of that song coming in,
but like it's usually used in like super

1029
01:08:17,079 --> 01:08:21,439
serious moments, which I guess this
is, but I just get really hyped

1030
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,479
for it. It's it's not so
much like it takes me out of it

1031
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,560
in a comedic sense. Maybe there's
a little bit of that like ingredient involved

1032
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,199
in it, but it's mostly just
like, because it's used in these intense

1033
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,560
moments, it just gets me giddy
and like, holy fuck, we're going

1034
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:39,319
places. When it happens in the
gum jabbar scene in the first film.

1035
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,920
I think it happens twice maybe thrice
in this film and in that one that

1036
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,880
you just laid out, and I
think maybe when the real rally in the

1037
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:54,680
troops or something else, like I
do I do remember that chick there,

1038
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,880
Yeah, lifts it up. Yeah. Fuck, it just gets me like

1039
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,119
if I'm going to war, I
need that chance to just really get me

1040
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:08,119
going. That's your ride now music, Yeah exactly, Yeah, but yeah,

1041
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:12,680
no, I mean just the repercussions
of that scene. I think,

1042
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:15,039
as I mentioned earlier, like at
that moment Paul, I mean when he

1043
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:18,479
has that water of life going through
them, but then also because of that

1044
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:23,359
he learns of this hearkening blood in
him, and I think that that just

1045
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,760
like elevates and turns him up to
a new level. And then I think

1046
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,079
kind of nearly after that scene is
when we get the moment when he goes

1047
01:09:30,119 --> 01:09:33,319
in the middle of that kind of
prayer giant prayer circle, and he's just

1048
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,920
the way he like she finally like
yells for the first time. He's like

1049
01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:41,359
really yelling at these people. He
picks on this one guy in the audience

1050
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:44,319
and just like reads his mind or
his past or whatever the hell's going on

1051
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,880
there. It was really effective and
I really liked that he just took control

1052
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,720
of that room. And then once
again Shawnie's reactions to all these things,

1053
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,119
seeing that she's kind of had these
visions too, like I don't want things

1054
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:56,920
to go this way. You promise
you you you talked about how you're gonna

1055
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,960
do this. Going from this like
humble guy who really loved their culture and

1056
01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:03,079
like the more down to earth part
of it kind of just turning more into

1057
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:06,199
this warlord of sorts, and even
though he hasn't done anything evil yet,

1058
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:11,800
he's still like you can see the
hearkening blood like flowing marks at that point

1059
01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:15,079
is really really cool, really good
scene. Yeah, and like it's not

1060
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:16,920
even like that's what he wanted,
right, Like initially he was saying,

1061
01:10:17,039 --> 01:10:20,560
everybody goes south but me, because
like I can't go south. As if

1062
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,359
I go south, this is what's
gonna happen. And that's exactly what happened.

1063
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:28,960
I love that it went that way
because it seemed like some terror,

1064
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:32,119
some evil was gonna happen. Millions
of people are gonna die, which is

1065
01:10:32,279 --> 01:10:35,079
kind of what happened, right,
Like they murder a lot of a lot

1066
01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:40,319
of Fremen people died in that battle, a lot less than what the the

1067
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,239
like the Saudakar or the Hearkenings did, but that is a direct result to

1068
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:46,560
that. And this is also just
the start, right like like the Holy

1069
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,000
Wars that they mentioned, like how
many people are gonna get murdered in those

1070
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:57,239
in those battles to come. So
I liked just throughout the series. Actually,

1071
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,439
I'm really really liking how these visions
are playing, whether they happen or

1072
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,880
or not. It seems like now
that he's had the Blue Goo that they're

1073
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,920
a lot more accurate and he just
sees so much clearer. He he even

1074
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,840
mentioned that when he's talking to Jessica
in those moments, but Yeah, that

1075
01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:15,359
that specific scene when he marches in
and he's like yelling and they're like you

1076
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,199
can't talk in here, like you
have to you have to kill this guy,

1077
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:19,920
and he's like fuck off, Like
he's just yelling at them, like

1078
01:11:20,079 --> 01:11:23,960
no one here can challenge me.
They all like stand up, and then

1079
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,319
he's just like telling their futures and
just like like you said, like really

1080
01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:31,199
aggressively like yelling at them. He's
not he's not like belittling them, but

1081
01:11:31,319 --> 01:11:34,000
like he almost is, because it's
like just shut the fuck up and listening

1082
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:36,680
to me, like I'm not gonna
kill one of our best guys, Like

1083
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:40,880
it's not even a point, Like
I am the main guy. I am

1084
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,039
the one like listen to me here
and man, like I I had just

1085
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:46,520
goosebumps, and that entire sequence.
I was so pumped up the way that

1086
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:53,439
Gerty was just kind of like going
along with everything. He's always supporting to

1087
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,319
him. I mean still Guard too, still Ward's like take kill me.

1088
01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:00,800
Still Gard was actually a lot more
comedic, and I was expecting him to

1089
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,520
be in this film because like every
every little thing whenever he's reacting to like

1090
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,920
these prophecy things happening, everything that
happened. He's like, he's the one.

1091
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:12,119
It's it's the rain happened because this
guy was just walking on earth,

1092
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,600
you know, like that sort of
thing. Let good, yeah for sure,

1093
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,840
but yeah, that that whole sequence
when he was telling the one Chaps

1094
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,479
just the way that his mom died
or something like that, or when he

1095
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,600
actually, you know, like mentions
that Oracus used to have a friend and

1096
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,680
name Dune. He dropped the name
Dune there. That was really good,

1097
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,520
and just the overall aesthetic of that, like room was just so beautiful,

1098
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:39,279
the way that everyone was just fully
engaged with with Paul, and kind of

1099
01:12:39,319 --> 01:12:43,640
the way that the the air in
the room shifted because of his demeanor,

1100
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,399
because of what he was saying.
That when when it gets the point that

1101
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,119
he is just dropping these truths and
people just like are on edge, they're

1102
01:12:49,159 --> 01:12:51,640
aggressive, and then all of a
sudden they're like bowing to him. And

1103
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:57,560
the only one that's kind of not
that way is Chawny because she's just she's

1104
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,000
just so in the other direction and
also just seeing the man that she loves

1105
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:03,119
go this down this road that she
didn't want him to be. And also

1106
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:08,359
kind of what he was mentioning would
happen if he came here, And I

1107
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,439
was mentioning how like just the whole
interaction between them, I was wanting maybe

1108
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,560
a little bit more there. But
I mean the more I kind of stew

1109
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,600
on it, the more I'm kinda
I guess okay with it, because it

1110
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,720
just seems like he is a different
person as soon as he has the blue

1111
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,560
potion. Like they don't even really
have moments to talk, and when they

1112
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,680
do, I do like those little
moments because it's it seems like that old

1113
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,640
Paul still is in there, but
it's like he's a different person now,

1114
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,319
like he has a different title now, like like he doesn't really have time

1115
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:40,039
for where he was in the earlier
portions of this movie. But it's a

1116
01:13:40,119 --> 01:13:43,960
long winded way of just saying that
scene blew me away. That was my,

1117
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:45,520
by far, my favorite scene of
the whole movie, and I was

1118
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,800
I was so hyped. I was
so hyped in those moments. I like

1119
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,119
that again he's telling their futures or
pasts, all that kind of stuff.

1120
01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:58,760
The one thing that I really really
appreciated was him calling out everyone that pulled

1121
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,560
these knives on him. Is like, you know, I'm you don't want

1122
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,319
to take that chance and kill me, because what if I am that one

1123
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:09,840
You've been waiting your whole lives,
like for praying every day, and it's

1124
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,119
just thinking, man, yeah,
he's the one your mother said would come.

1125
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:16,239
It's just like, oh God,
you basically got them dead to rights

1126
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:21,319
with with this. So mm hmm. And then another character that we've we've

1127
01:14:21,399 --> 01:14:26,800
mentioned a couple of times I haven't
really dove deep into, is Lady Jessica

1128
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,560
Rebecca Ferguson. To me, is
such a standout in this movie. She

1129
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,319
just has such a presence to her. I think part of it is just

1130
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:42,079
you know, the makeup does the
makeup artist and like the costume design of

1131
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:45,720
it, where like the way she
just looks so like almost hollow at the

1132
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,920
start of the movie. I think
she looks so cool there and then just

1133
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:54,359
kind of evolving eventually getting like the
tattoos or the painting whatever it is on

1134
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,800
her face, and then by the
end of the movie with like that kind

1135
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,520
of maroon sort of hood and like
all the goal chimes coming down, Like

1136
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:05,479
she just looks so cool, and
just her acting, just the stone cold

1137
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,720
presence. She's fucking terrifying in this
movie. When she does like that voice

1138
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,920
thing too, and then even just
like talking to her unborn child is like

1139
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:19,439
this really really creepy thing, having
these conversations. She just has such a

1140
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:26,399
strong presence in this movie, and
I love that she had such an important

1141
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,399
role. But they also did a
really good job, I feel like,

1142
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,800
of still making her feel like she
was working in the shadows even though she

1143
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,920
really did get a lot of screen
time. She's talking a lot about her

1144
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:38,039
plans, she's doing these things,
but she never really is taking center stage.

1145
01:15:38,079 --> 01:15:42,199
And I thought it was just such
a well done character. And she

1146
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,239
was really interesting compelling in the first
one too, And I think she's had

1147
01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:48,199
a really cool evolution here. I
like that she's still gets like a ton

1148
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:51,960
of screen time. It's definitely worth
it for every time she's on screen is

1149
01:15:53,039 --> 01:15:58,920
fantastic. Yeah, I couldn't agree
more. I think she was really really

1150
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:05,039
fantastic, And I like the progression
of her character and her just really taking

1151
01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:12,920
into the role of being this reverend
mother here for for the Freeman, and

1152
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:17,520
I I was just kind of like
thinking, like that is she is she

1153
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:23,800
kind of like possessed by the previous
reverend mothers. The times it felt like

1154
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:28,359
or is she still like coherently herself. It just seemed kind of I think

1155
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,439
it's a bit of both, because
because she does mention that she like hears

1156
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,359
her. I think it's like right
after she she gets the blue Goo,

1157
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:41,199
because they even mentioned I forget the
title that they give her. It's it's

1158
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:45,159
something that starts with an ass,
but it basically means like the priestess of

1159
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,680
the people, and how it's it's
like a reoccurring thing like like once Jessica

1160
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,239
would die, you know, figure
figuratively, like there'd be another reverend Mother

1161
01:16:54,399 --> 01:16:58,680
there to like pass pass on,
And it seems like the embodiment of the

1162
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,039
all the previous reveren mothers are like
in her body. So I think it's

1163
01:17:03,079 --> 01:17:06,359
definitely there, But I feel like
I took it. I mean that scene

1164
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:09,239
when she's talking about She's like,
here's her. I thought she was talking

1165
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:12,359
about her daughter. I didn't think
she was thinking of talking about the other

1166
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,920
Benagesta. Yeah. To me,
like seemed like she really tried to go

1167
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,880
like really separate from the faction.
Obviously, she's like mind talking with the

1168
01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:24,920
reverend mother in the final scene,
but that's when they're actually in the same

1169
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:27,199
room. Yeah, So I don't
know, I took that a different way

1170
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:30,720
that'd I'm curious on to rewatch how
I'll feel about that. The reason why

1171
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,920
I think it was talking about like
the previous Reverend mother the Fremen one was

1172
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:43,439
because she was already communicating with the
child like before the blue Goose stuff,

1173
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,359
Like she kept mentioning even in I
think the previous film when Paul was asking

1174
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,760
like how she was, It's like, yeah, no, she's doing okay,

1175
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:56,079
or like she always knows. It's
probably a benigestrit thing, but yeah,

1176
01:17:56,119 --> 01:18:00,880
and I'm curious if maybe she's a
lot more her herself with some influence

1177
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,880
from the previous frem and Reverend mothers, because she is like a powerful bandagestate

1178
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,159
member and really interesting in the fact
when they do that possession type thing and

1179
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,159
with the blue goo and every and
like it's just a shock that everybody funds

1180
01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:17,760
out that, like she's pregnant,
and like what does that mean for for

1181
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,319
this whole system? Does that mean
that Anya Taylor Joy when she gets born,

1182
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:26,079
Like is she like a Reverend mother
technically because she has the blue goo

1183
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,680
as someone in the womb? Like
very interesting, just prospects that could come

1184
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,640
out of that, but that whole
sequence, the baby's talking to her too,

1185
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:40,760
so yeah, she's talking about really
a pretty powerful baby. I thought

1186
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,479
that was Yeah, I thought that
was really really cool and any concept.

1187
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,600
But I feel like it just kind
of disappeared pretty quick because well, yes,

1188
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:54,479
throughout the film the baby's talking to
Lady Jessica and whatnot. But after

1189
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:59,760
the old reverend mother and all of
her physicians I'll call them, we're all

1190
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,199
around her and they're like, oh, she's pregnant, what have we done?

1191
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:05,840
And then she just dies and then
that's it. I thought there would

1192
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:11,119
be much more of like a freeman
like freak out the fact that they just

1193
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:14,600
needs but that's that's the end of
it. No one else is questioning that

1194
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,439
she's pregnant, and it's just you
gone from that. But that's I don't

1195
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,039
know, I feel like it was
just over a good point. That is

1196
01:19:21,079 --> 01:19:25,359
a good point. I feel like
maybe it's because it's never been that way

1197
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,560
that they've done that with a pregnant
lady before, so they don't know exactly

1198
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,560
what's going to happen, or possibly
they just think that the baby's dead for

1199
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,640
sure. Maybe they're really concerned about
that. I'm not. I'm not too

1200
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,840
sure, but that is a fair
critique because they they do make a big

1201
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:41,680
emphasis of it, and then it's
never brought up again about that, maybe

1202
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,239
just because she recovers really well and
everyone's like okay, we like it's okay,

1203
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:46,840
because maybe if they try to give
it to her and then the old

1204
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,359
Reverend Mother dies, like maybe that's
a really big issue if if Jessica dies,

1205
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,600
like right then and there, like
who's going to be the Reverend mother

1206
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,760
and how are they going to pass
on that torch that I was kind of

1207
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,399
mentioning if that is how it works, curious there, But they don't really

1208
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:06,039
get a chance to fully dive into
that. But yeah, just for Jessica

1209
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:11,920
in general, for this movie,
it's interesting because it seems like it seems

1210
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,720
like to me that she has maybe
more screen time in the first film compared

1211
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,279
to this, but it seems like
it's more more important scene. Like it's

1212
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,239
like even if it is that way, maybe it's like fifty one forty nine

1213
01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:27,199
percent, Like it does seem like
she has a big influence in that first

1214
01:20:27,239 --> 01:20:31,880
film, just prepping Paul for and
like training Paul for all these I think

1215
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,039
it's called the voice is what they
use. I think it's Skyrim whenever I

1216
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:41,399
say that, But uh, just
just like that power. But she seems

1217
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,439
like she's making such bigger dislike moments
in this film because she is this more

1218
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,079
powerful person, right, like she
is the Reverend Mother of the frem And

1219
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:57,600
people. And it's so interesting just
kind of her her early stages of becoming

1220
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,359
the Reverend Mother, because like you
guys were already mentioned, like when she's

1221
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:05,359
talking to the Womb just just like
pacing like through like the Fremen seech,

1222
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,560
Like it's almost like a horror movie
where she's like possessed and talking to a

1223
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,520
ghost and it's just freaky. And
she's talking to to Anya. I'm just

1224
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,239
gonna keep calling her Anya like in
the Womb and just saying like, yeah,

1225
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:19,319
we'll start with the weakest ones to
like turn them over, and it's

1226
01:21:19,399 --> 01:21:23,560
just it's so creepy in that sense. And when she's like looking at like

1227
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,880
the the terrified, like there's a
couple of kids in there and like a

1228
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,239
couple of women that are just like
staring at her in fear. But like

1229
01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:36,279
she she doesn't seem like she's making
clear evil moves like against the fremin people,

1230
01:21:36,359 --> 01:21:40,119
so like the only way that I
the only reason I feel that way

1231
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:43,840
is just because of how it's going
and because she is a Ben Just remember

1232
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,359
that they're always kind of making moves
in behind the scenes and what you were

1233
01:21:47,399 --> 01:21:50,680
kind of bringing up. I think
on the previous review for doing part one

1234
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,640
deal is just how interesting the Ben
and Jestrid it is. And I think

1235
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:58,760
it comes down to that secrecy and
how you just don't know what their motivation

1236
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,159
is. Like even if this is
all going well, it still seems like

1237
01:22:01,319 --> 01:22:05,640
something is unrevealed, but behind the
curtains for them, so very interesting,

1238
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,279
just faction as a whole. The
last thing I was gonna mention was in

1239
01:22:10,399 --> 01:22:15,319
that final scene when she's doing that
telepathic communication with with the pre like the

1240
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,239
Benicestra at Reverend Mother, I believe
they have the same title, is uh.

1241
01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:24,680
It's so interest because it seems like
Jessica deviates right from like the benagestraate

1242
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,840
way, Like she even says that
like you probably regret choosing your side,

1243
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,720
and then she counters with like you, you of all people should know that

1244
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:35,640
the Benagestrat don't choose sizes or sides. Like it's all kind of foreseen this

1245
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,239
way, like this is all moves
that all the benagest are kind of pushing

1246
01:22:40,319 --> 01:22:44,039
for, just trying to get to
that. Oh my gosh, what was

1247
01:22:44,119 --> 01:22:45,840
I gotta pull in my note?
The quiz AT's had a rack, you

1248
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,680
know, the ultimate power. And
I love that the previous reverend mother calls

1249
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,199
her the reverend mother. I know
she is for the friend and people,

1250
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:59,199
but it almost seems like Jessica got
the old lady's job, like she now

1251
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:04,239
is like a more powerful position because
of where she's situated in just being with

1252
01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:09,920
Paul right, like like Paul is
now technically like he's gonna be it seems

1253
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:15,079
like the emperor or someone just betrothed
to the Empress. So just just so

1254
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:18,520
interesting with how things end in this
movie, just for the politicking, I

1255
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,119
think, and although we don't get
a lot of resolutions of it, I

1256
01:23:21,359 --> 01:23:26,279
think it's just so fascinating moving forward
on what could happen with some of the

1257
01:23:27,159 --> 01:23:32,119
political side of things here and the
benicester At you have it was the name

1258
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:36,239
LEAs Sadou. That actress. Remember
what her character's name was. I think

1259
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:45,920
it was Lady Margot Fenring. Okay, Yeah, so she obviously is working

1260
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,439
with them, and she came in
and she did the little box test with

1261
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:58,560
the gonjabbar with go with Austin Butler. And now this ended very differently because

1262
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,880
she they banged. Yeah, and
that's not what Mother's Superior did with Paula

1263
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:10,159
Trees in the first movie. Uh
so well, they they mentioned they mentioned

1264
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:13,920
why that was right, like,
well, they wanted to get the the

1265
01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:19,760
DNA right to secure another female.
True, but I it's also I guess

1266
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,880
that probably was a big motivation.
But it seemed like through the dialogue was

1267
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:29,800
just because this fucked up Austin Butler's
psychotic character which murdered his last mom,

1268
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,399
Like it's potential that he would have
tried to do that to this person that

1269
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,880
is a more motherly figure. He's
a lot more motivated, possibly by by

1270
01:24:38,279 --> 01:24:42,199
sexual desires. And obviously they ended
up boning, and it seemed like he

1271
01:24:42,279 --> 01:24:45,920
was kind of seduced into the overall
like meeting of it, right, like,

1272
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:50,520
yeah, they seduced. But I
I like how it went with Paul

1273
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:55,399
though, because Paul seems like he
has a very close relationship with Jessica.

1274
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,399
So then having like the other river
Mother performed the comju bar for him,

1275
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,960
it's it's not only just because of
her position, but also just because it's

1276
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:08,159
a similar motherly type relate. I
know she's not as nice as maybe Jessica

1277
01:25:08,279 --> 01:25:11,840
is to Paul, but I just
thought of the two comparisons and how it

1278
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,479
seems like they choose a certain Benijester
member to do these tests depending on who

1279
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,399
the test e would be. But
maybe I'm reading into that a little bit

1280
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,640
too much. No, I think
that that doesn't make a lot of sense.

1281
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,760
They're talking about that, those motivations, but yeah, man, just

1282
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,359
the Benicesterate and just fucking plantting these
seeds everywhere of like working so hard to

1283
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:36,119
get Paul to uh, I guess
Mary the Princess, you know that you

1284
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:40,560
could see that from like multiple perspectives, where like the mother Reverend wants that.

1285
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,880
But then also like even if I'm
still a little confused on what exactly

1286
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,079
is going on between Lay Jessica and
that mother Reverend, like they both were

1287
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:50,760
still working towards that same goal.
So once again, that's like some four

1288
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,239
told thing that they need to make
happen. They're both working towards that still.

1289
01:25:55,279 --> 01:25:59,399
And then obviously the princess is also
a Benjester, so she's working towards

1290
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,279
this goal. Well, so they're
setting up that, but then like they're

1291
01:26:01,359 --> 01:26:08,560
kind of building up this backup plan
by putting the baby of Fade Fade Ratha

1292
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,239
in in leys and news characters.
That's like another backup plan there. So

1293
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,439
I just love that idea that they're
just like making up all these plans and

1294
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,600
like no one accept them know about
that backup plan, for example, and

1295
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,000
no one knows that it was the
ben Jester that were really working hard to

1296
01:26:24,119 --> 01:26:27,520
like make that relationship even happen in
the first place. So yeah, I

1297
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,600
just think the way they we're working
in the Shadows is so freaking interesting.

1298
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,039
And that's where when you add in
like Florence p one of the mix and

1299
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:38,479
then LEAs said, do have this
other character who was like not really attached

1300
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,680
to many of the major plots.
This seems more like set up for a

1301
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,319
Part three sort of thing. She
still like has such a commanding presence,

1302
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,039
and I thought she was just such
a fun character. In that hallway scene

1303
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:51,920
that she had what Austin Butler I
thought was really fun. And then even

1304
01:26:53,039 --> 01:26:56,960
just at that battle too, when
she has like her funny, little like

1305
01:26:57,039 --> 01:27:00,560
magnifying last thing, I thought she
was really great and that's as well.

1306
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,199
So, yeah, there's such a
fun faction. I think that's like some

1307
01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:08,199
of the most compelling stuff for me. They've they've planted the seeds here already

1308
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:13,600
for I mean, we could skip
ahead six movies, seven movies with time

1309
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:19,560
jumps. We got LEAs Todo carrying
the next hearkening air, I guess you

1310
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:26,560
could say, and then we have
Rebecca Ferguson carrying the next like a trade's

1311
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,720
air. Like it's just it's you
could have these characters take off. That's

1312
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,079
also harkening blood in there too,
also harkening blood. Yeah, so these

1313
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,479
characters that are all just kind of
like stepping up and I mean not even

1314
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:39,960
born yet, but it's just the
seeds planted, right. The Benijeesta are

1315
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:45,920
planning their Dune sequels already. Good
stuff. Fade Rotha, We've talked about

1316
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,640
him a bit here, Austin Butler. I thought he was a really fun

1317
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,119
villain in this. You know,
he's not a very multi dimensional character,

1318
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:57,880
but he's just a really menacing force
in the way that the Baron was in

1319
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,439
the first movie. The Baron still
has a couple of those here, Like

1320
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,359
we have this one scene where he
clearly kills like these two girls just randomly

1321
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:08,760
in his room, and he's obviously
anyone around him is fucking scared, super

1322
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,920
super scared. But I thought he
was a good new villain in the mix

1323
01:28:12,039 --> 01:28:15,840
here, did you guys? I
just couldn't unsee him looking exactly like the

1324
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,720
I Am Legend zombies like the whole
movie. Do you guys agree with that?

1325
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:25,279
No, I was thinking more Prometheus
and the texts. Yeah, okay,

1326
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:27,800
yeah, that's a fair comparison as
well. But yeah, we saw

1327
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,960
that black and white scene like that
was a in the trailer, like briefly,

1328
01:28:30,079 --> 01:28:32,119
but seeing the rest of that,
I thought that was a really really

1329
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:38,039
fun sequence. Just visually looked amazing, but also like the idea there of

1330
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:40,800
just the way the baron was like
kind of fucking with him, making that

1331
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:44,039
a harder battle, but then he
kind of twists it into being like a

1332
01:28:44,119 --> 01:28:46,119
gift for him that he looked like
a hero at the end of the day.

1333
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,840
And that was a those a really
really fun sequence. So we've kind

1334
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,560
of talked about like the repercussions of
it all, but yeah, just visually

1335
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:59,840
fucking visual feast for sure. And
he also just seems like he enjoys like

1336
01:29:00,079 --> 01:29:01,800
more of a challenge, right,
like when they're just drugged, it's just

1337
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,319
such a okay, I gotta do
this. Whereas like he turned off his

1338
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:13,000
barrier there, like he he was
really slowly killing that that that I guess

1339
01:29:13,039 --> 01:29:17,000
he was from. So yeah,
Trady's soldier, that's right. But no,

1340
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:21,359
every everything about that sequence I thought
was just so stellar, like like

1341
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:26,279
a scene that I'm excited to rewatch
for all the different details. Just like

1342
01:29:26,399 --> 01:29:30,680
Giddy Prime in general is just such
a It's a dark, twisted world,

1343
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,279
it seems, and like yeah,
like the black Sun just like making everything

1344
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:40,319
look black and white is just so
interesting to me. And uh yeah,

1345
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,960
just getting to peer a little bit
more into the society of of the Hearken

1346
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:46,760
and people was cool, just to
get a glimpse hat very much reminded me

1347
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,359
of the Dreoki from of course,
Warhammer Total War, just like the dark

1348
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,520
Elves, who are just these sidistic, like fucked up people that just all

1349
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:00,720
they're all about war and just murder
and similar to what what awesome Butler's character

1350
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,199
seemed like. And I love like
the I guess they're like parameter guards.

1351
01:30:05,239 --> 01:30:09,439
They have like horns and like a
black face and these like whip things that

1352
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,600
were just closing in to like basically
make the play area smaller. One gets

1353
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,199
a little bit excited and smacks the
guy in the back with what seems to

1354
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:19,239
be like a dart or something.
It was weird. Austin Butler put an

1355
01:30:19,279 --> 01:30:24,359
end of that real quick, because
man, like you just talked back to

1356
01:30:24,399 --> 01:30:29,199
them once and they'll slice your Yeah, yeah, they don't around in that

1357
01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:30,760
way. I feel like you just
have to note to never say no to

1358
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,039
them, Like you just do everything
that they say at all time. Others

1359
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:36,520
you are getting your your throat slit. But yeah, that that whole sequence

1360
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,319
was so even like the fireworks that
were going off, it just seemed like

1361
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,560
like water in or like like food
coloring in water. It looked like in

1362
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,039
the air. It was just so
different than what you would expect. And

1363
01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:50,079
everything about Gay Prime was kind of
like that. It's it's kind of fun

1364
01:30:50,119 --> 01:30:54,319
that it's black and white because it
just seems like a negative type type world.

1365
01:30:55,319 --> 01:30:59,600
But yeah, yeah, and then
fade wrought the two like I really

1366
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,159
enjoyed the battle that him and Paul
have at the end of this, and

1367
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,840
you know, a big once again
highlight here to Chawani and Zendaya just watching

1368
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:13,800
this battle go on and her reactions
to it. Particularly, there's like one

1369
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,279
moment when her eye is just like
I saw that. Yeah, it's like

1370
01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:21,800
what an actress, you know?
Ye, like this super subtle thing.

1371
01:31:23,239 --> 01:31:26,760
You can't teach that. That is
insane. That was that was that was

1372
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,439
great. That was Actually when he
takes Florence's hand to be betrothed, she's

1373
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:34,439
just so again like what you said, like she's she's not saying anything,

1374
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:40,720
she's not like reacting to like someone
dying. It's like such a subtle act,

1375
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,279
but like it goes so far.
I mean obviously you and I both

1376
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,520
noticed it, and it just it
really makes it feel so authentic that this

1377
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,800
person that you you truly fell in
love with, like you just bonded with

1378
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:56,159
for the last however many months it's
been. You already see them kind of

1379
01:31:56,199 --> 01:31:59,399
slipping down a path before the battle
happens, right like he comes up towards

1380
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:00,720
like no matter what happens, like
I'll always love you as long as I'm

1381
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,560
breathing. And then this happens,
and she's just already feeling so betrayed and

1382
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:09,960
she just fucks off and takes a
worm to somewhere seven to eleven somewhere,

1383
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,840
but yeah, you're the final shot
of the movie. Yeah, black on

1384
01:32:14,079 --> 01:32:16,880
on her going off on her own
there. So I mean, I have

1385
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:21,399
no idea where how she's gonna fall
into the rest of this the rest of

1386
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,439
this story, but I'm curious to
see what her solo venture is gonna look

1387
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:30,840
like me too. Yeah, very
fascinating character and just how she kind of

1388
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,880
because yeah, she's obviously pain in
pain just over the whole situation and where

1389
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,279
is she going? Who who is
she gonna side with? Is she's just

1390
01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:45,840
going it's gonna say free low solo. My gosh's getting late. But just

1391
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:50,560
that whole actual like glad like the
Gladiator duel. I guess at the end,

1392
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:56,239
is it like my palms are sweaty
that whole sequence. I know it's

1393
01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:59,640
like Paul's story, but I honestly
thought that he wasn't safe in that moment.

1394
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,840
I'm and like, maybe like there's
some crazy thing that like Anya Taylor

1395
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,720
Joys, like the new Messiah type
thing, because she's obviously, you know,

1396
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:12,439
like related, and it seems prophetic
because she's in Lady Jessica's womb,

1397
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,760
right, now, Like I just
had no idea how it was going to

1398
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,920
end. I thought maybe they were
both gonna die. They just did such

1399
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,920
a great job at having stakes in
that situation. The fact that the whole

1400
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:26,920
combat, there's so many people in
this room just watching complete silence, like

1401
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,720
nobody is saying anything, like you
really feel just the tension of like the

1402
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,079
whole empire can just be shifted in
this one battle right now. And the

1403
01:33:34,199 --> 01:33:40,159
fact that Paul just like he's been
running and like fighting people this whole day

1404
01:33:40,279 --> 01:33:44,800
and he's just still gonna one on
one what's his name? I want I

1405
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,000
don't want to keep something. Yeah, fay Rotha like just this psychopath that

1406
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:53,640
you know in the Benedjesterit's eyes like
he's potentially the one. So it's just

1407
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:59,600
such a crazy converging of fates there. And when when fay Ratha like stabs

1408
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,520
Paul and everyone just gafs. You
have the Reverend Mother who's like very pregnant

1409
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:08,319
and like seems so like stoic and
silent, Like she gets up and just

1410
01:34:08,399 --> 01:34:12,199
like reacts, and it just seems
like something that is going against the script.

1411
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:15,079
Like maybe she's so calm because she
knows what's happening all the all these

1412
01:34:15,159 --> 01:34:18,520
things are like the dominoes are falling
in the right path that you kind of

1413
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,239
you kind of know what's happening.
But then he gets stabbed, and all

1414
01:34:21,279 --> 01:34:24,439
of a sudden, it's like,
oh my god, we lost a domino.

1415
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,960
Like the whole, the whole,
the whole trail is just shifted.

1416
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,760
There. I another scene that was
just so powerful for me, and I

1417
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:36,079
was totally engaged in. Yeah,
definitely, what else anything we haven't mentioned

1418
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:44,039
yet? Uh? I know we
were talking about Gerty, but I am

1419
01:34:44,119 --> 01:34:46,359
so glad that he stayed alive from
the last movie. Uh, Taylor,

1420
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:49,680
you mentioned his smuggling thing. I
was very curious as to how they were

1421
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:53,439
gonna write him in because obviously we
saw him in the trailers and whatnot.

1422
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:59,560
But I just thought he was just
such a great like reminder of Caladan and

1423
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,800
like where Paul came from, and
like just such a like a true loyal

1424
01:35:03,159 --> 01:35:09,199
soldier to the A Trade's family,
and he was just he was a fun

1425
01:35:09,279 --> 01:35:13,079
dynamic to have in like amongst just
an army of all freemen, like to

1426
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,640
have this this A Trade's guy just
there. But also, as Taylor,

1427
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:20,359
you're you're emphasizing earlier, like just
so loyal to that family, and I

1428
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,560
think it's just like Josh Brolin's like
Charisma two bouncing off Paul. It was

1429
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,600
it was really working for me,
and uh yeah, I'm so Like I

1430
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,960
thought he might be an easy one
to kill off too, just because he

1431
01:35:30,079 --> 01:35:32,039
was in the last movie, like
we had him a lot there. Maybe

1432
01:35:32,119 --> 01:35:36,000
can have a sacrifice here, but
he's still alive and really loyal to the

1433
01:35:36,079 --> 01:35:43,439
Duke of Iracus. So I like
that it's not just like Calidan and the

1434
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,520
Trade's family is, like it's not
just tossed away, like it is still

1435
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:49,319
a very much relevant thing. And
I am really happy that in that moment

1436
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:57,119
when Paul is in that the Southern
Areas, like like like when he's what

1437
01:35:57,279 --> 01:35:59,560
was it was, how can I
say this? When he was like yelling

1438
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,079
at everyone and like saying he is
the one, Like in that moment,

1439
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,079
I thought for a moment he was
just gonna throw away the ring and just

1440
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:06,800
be like I am your friend and
leader, but he like still kept it

1441
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,880
and like I am the Baron's son. He's speaking English at that point,

1442
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:15,479
Like I just really like how where
he is because I thought maybe if when

1443
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,600
he took the blue goo, he
was just fully gone in the frem and

1444
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,960
direction. He's fully the Messiah.
Now, he's fully whatever their name is

1445
01:36:21,039 --> 01:36:27,439
that that they have for him.
But he is still this multifaceted individual and

1446
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,920
it just makes it so much more
interesting in my opinion. But yeah,

1447
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:34,119
I was, I was juicing for
that stuff. Yeah, we didn't really

1448
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:40,680
have any significant deaths on the the
good side of things, the quote unquote

1449
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:46,039
good side, like try no friend, Yeah, and uh, it's kind

1450
01:36:46,079 --> 01:36:50,039
of it, really, You're not
wrong. Yeah, there's that one worm

1451
01:36:50,199 --> 01:36:54,560
that dies to give its blue goo
in the water. Did it die?

1452
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,800
I didn't know if it. I
couldn't tell if it actually died for good

1453
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,520
or just chilling there after. I
assumed it died because it was like drowning

1454
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,159
it and then the last little air
bubble comes out, and I'm just like,

1455
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:08,319
it's kind of gruesome, Like I
shouldn't feel affection for this little,

1456
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,520
this little gross worm thing, but
like I'm kind of sad that thing just

1457
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,399
had to drown for that to occur. That was a funny sequence with that.

1458
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,119
That person who's like that seems to
be their job is just like mini

1459
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:23,840
worms and sucking out their their juice. She was a master at it,

1460
01:37:24,319 --> 01:37:26,640
just because like my baby wants to
see how it's done. It's like,

1461
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,359
fuck, that's kind of fucked up. But okay, I guess I gotta

1462
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:30,479
drown another one. Yeah, she's
like, I don't do this for entertainment,

1463
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:35,039
like and uh, just like worms
in general. Obviously there's a lot

1464
01:37:35,079 --> 01:37:39,600
of them in this movie. I
liked all the the action sequences of them.

1465
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:44,039
It's just a great creature amongst film, I feel, and like sci

1466
01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:46,479
fi. I did like seeing like
a smaller version of it, though,

1467
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:53,239
and there's still so much mystery around
them. I'm I'm curious as if they

1468
01:37:53,359 --> 01:37:55,720
unveil some more of those things.
I did a little bit of digging on

1469
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,279
my own just on the previous viewing
of Dune. I won't say too much

1470
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:01,479
because it seems like there's some big
story type things attached to them, but

1471
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,479
very interesting creatures and the fact that
they can be so small, right,

1472
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:11,359
like she's she mentioned it's a very
young one. Clearly, it's it's you

1473
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,720
can handle it versus the giant ones. Yeah, no, definitely, I

1474
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,720
mean that scene when Paul first is
able to mount one on his own is

1475
01:38:19,039 --> 01:38:24,880
really really great. Really epic.
I like you have it too, because

1476
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:28,279
it seems like for the other people
who have done that, the other freemen

1477
01:38:28,279 --> 01:38:30,640
who have done this bunch of times, like they probably don't need to be

1478
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,640
as precise with the placement and where
they stand and all that, Like they're

1479
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,039
pretty pretty damn good at it.
But yeah, I thought it was really

1480
01:38:36,119 --> 01:38:39,720
cool to see and Shiney's like,
oh, gotta go lower and he goes

1481
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:43,000
down there, like, oh,
that was really really fun. Visually,

1482
01:38:44,119 --> 01:38:49,199
Yeah, absolutely anything else, that's
all. I think. I'm happy with

1483
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:51,520
that. There might be one or
two things I'm missing, but that's all

1484
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:59,039
right, A lot to unpack near
three hour movie. Final thoughts and rating,

1485
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,399
Taylor feel what are you gone?
So? I'm glad that we had

1486
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:08,079
the opportunity to discuss a lot of
this movie because I feel like it definitely

1487
01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:13,159
helped me see and understand a little
bit more of the characters, a little

1488
01:39:13,159 --> 01:39:16,039
bit more of just the overall narrative. But all in all, I think

1489
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:23,880
that these actors, they really really
came and they played hard, and I

1490
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:28,039
think it totally is represented in their
characters that they're they're they're portraying. I

1491
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:30,520
mean, I love it. I
think that they're they're living and breathing these

1492
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,039
roles, and it's great because this
this world, I mean, it needs

1493
01:39:34,159 --> 01:39:39,239
that, It needs that connection and
needs that engagement. And so just to

1494
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:44,479
be one of the viewers and just
to be rallying behind Paula Trad's that gets

1495
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,720
me excited for sure. That's something
a testament to the music. Like you

1496
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:50,159
mentioned Dylan as well, There's so
many awesome factors that really make this a

1497
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:55,159
cinematic experience. This is why I
would absolutely recommend you go see this in

1498
01:39:55,239 --> 01:40:00,279
theaters. It is long, and
I don't know if this movie will be

1499
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:06,720
for everyone, but I think it's
definitely a movie that everyone mostly everyone will

1500
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:11,199
will enjoy for sure, and hopefully
even more so if you have read the

1501
01:40:11,239 --> 01:40:15,359
books. I'm excited to see where
this is going to go because I feel

1502
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:19,880
like there's a lot of ground to
cover, and yeah, I'm probably gonna

1503
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:28,279
go. Before we talked, I
was thinking around the seven seven and a

1504
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,079
half, but after talking I'd probably
landed at an eight out of ten.

1505
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:38,239
To be honest, I'm still docking
at those points because I feel like scenes

1506
01:40:38,359 --> 01:40:43,039
were cut up and certain things were
just kind of like transitioning too fast.

1507
01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:46,800
I was left feeling like I wanted
some more, even if it's more exposition

1508
01:40:47,079 --> 01:40:51,920
or just more clarity between certain things, and it's just other things that I

1509
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,680
felt maybe were needed. And that's
weird to say for like a three hour

1510
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,760
film, because if it's three hour
film, like, okay, well you

1511
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,960
need everything. Everything in here should
be is like very very valuable, and

1512
01:41:04,279 --> 01:41:10,960
it's just all for the story.
But that negative aside, it's a wonderful

1513
01:41:11,039 --> 01:41:14,640
film, wonderful score, The visuals
just blow your mind away, and you

1514
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:19,760
get some really really cool stuff that
they did here. So yeah, nice.

1515
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:25,760
I remembered one thing that I had
a question of, which was just

1516
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,159
one of these things that was super
fucking loud on the music, so I

1517
01:41:28,239 --> 01:41:31,560
couldn't hear what Paul was saying to
the baron when he was going up to

1518
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:35,319
kill me. He had like two
lines. Do you guys remember he says

1519
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:41,439
something grandfather. Yeah, he calls
him grandfather. Okay, I don't know

1520
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,319
what he says right after, I
don't know, like avenging his dad in

1521
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,159
some way, something about that fuck
you asshole. Would probably you know,

1522
01:41:48,279 --> 01:41:54,199
translate that to what do you think
my dad was a good man? What

1523
01:41:54,279 --> 01:41:58,520
do you think went through the Baron's
like mind when he's just said like yeah,

1524
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,279
like hello father. I mean he
probably seen in that scene. I

1525
01:42:02,399 --> 01:42:05,159
was hoping he would take off his
mask. He doesn't take off his mask

1526
01:42:05,279 --> 01:42:10,159
like he like he literally stabs him
and then like walks out without taking his

1527
01:42:10,279 --> 01:42:12,319
mask off. Like that would have
been a big jaw drop moment. And

1528
01:42:12,399 --> 01:42:16,520
it happens a little bit later on. His whole like just jaunt into that

1529
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,760
scene is just so badass though,
Like he has so much confidence. He's

1530
01:42:20,039 --> 01:42:23,960
he's like the leader of all these
people and he just still is the first

1531
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,279
man in struts in all these saudakr
like pointing their swords at him, and

1532
01:42:27,279 --> 01:42:30,760
he just gets right up close and
personal like again like he's just seeing the

1533
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,720
outcome, like he knows what's gonna
happen. But I was hoping for a

1534
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,840
face to face because as you laid
out, the baron could still be confused.

1535
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:41,319
It's possible he doesn't really know.
Is this the dumb question? Does

1536
01:42:41,399 --> 01:42:46,479
the baron know that that's his grandson? I I hope maybe in that moment

1537
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:51,359
it became clear. I don't know. And again, maybe this is something

1538
01:42:51,359 --> 01:42:56,319
that's gonna come out in like the
third movie, but like in Jessica's vision

1539
01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:00,600
or maybe it was Paul's vision of
seeing baby Jessica, Like the baron was

1540
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,199
there in that scene, so he
does know that he at least had a

1541
01:43:04,359 --> 01:43:08,199
daughter. I don't know if he
knew that it was Jessica. I like

1542
01:43:08,279 --> 01:43:11,239
to think maybe he is just for
like a story reason, but it doesn't

1543
01:43:11,239 --> 01:43:14,239
seem like at any point obviously he
mentions that, like, I need to

1544
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:17,439
get Jessica, call a scene between
him and Jessica, and no it doesn't

1545
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:24,199
happen. Yeah. Interesting, Okay, No, I my final thoughts here.

1546
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:27,199
I definitely you guys helped patch a
lot of the holes I had,

1547
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,960
but there are still some things that
I wish we're done a bit better,

1548
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:36,560
explained, a bit better certain characters. I'm definitely more looking forward to a

1549
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:40,560
sequel now that I have a bit
more context of what's going on here.

1550
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:45,199
But yeah, I can't. Even
with all that, I'm still definitely lower

1551
01:43:45,279 --> 01:43:46,880
on this than I was the first
one, which I don't even really feel

1552
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,520
disappointed because I still love this movie. It's just like a few minor things

1553
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:55,479
here or there, and a little
bit of sanding off the edges I suppose,

1554
01:43:55,560 --> 01:44:00,359
so definitely excited, Like you know, anything that's a Golden Geek tender,

1555
01:44:00,399 --> 01:44:01,760
I got to rewatch if it's came
out this early in the year,

1556
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,000
I got to rewatch it close to
Golden Geek's time. So I'm definitely gonna

1557
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:10,640
do a rewatch of hopefully one into
two before we do that, and hopefully

1558
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,119
at that time I can really piece
together a lot more of it and it

1559
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:16,560
makes a bit more sense. But
yeah, for today, I still love

1560
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,159
this movie. I definitely am not
as strong as the first one, but

1561
01:44:19,279 --> 01:44:26,159
still a great time. Just such
a visual delight, like that's the biggest

1562
01:44:26,359 --> 01:44:29,760
highlight for me for sure, and
the sound is just such a such an

1563
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:33,159
epic frickin' movie, And I am
excited for part three. Hopefully we get

1564
01:44:33,239 --> 01:44:38,720
that and hopefully I hope happens pretty
soon. We don't have to wait seven

1565
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,079
years or something like that. But
there you go. That's my final thoughts.

1566
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:45,600
Kirklam, What do you got?
I got? I got a big

1567
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,079
old ten out of ten on this
one. I'm gonna fulfilling the prophecy.

1568
01:44:48,279 --> 01:44:54,439
I fulfill the prophecy, that's right, you know, Maybe it'll be something

1569
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:58,279
similar where like how the last movie
I was at nine point five and eventually

1570
01:44:58,319 --> 01:45:00,199
got to ten. Maybe I'll put
a ten and eventually goes down to a

1571
01:45:00,279 --> 01:45:04,000
nine point five or something. But
I truly like Out the Gate just was

1572
01:45:04,039 --> 01:45:10,079
blown away by this. I really
just resonated with the whole Prophecy storyline.

1573
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,760
I felt like all the big moments
really hit for me. And although you

1574
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:17,600
guys did bring up some very fair
critiques and there's even just some pacing things

1575
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:21,600
in the third act that slightly bothered
me, it really didn't take away from

1576
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:28,079
the overall enjoyment of this story.
And Yeah, I absolutely love don Now

1577
01:45:28,359 --> 01:45:31,079
even though this is my oly experience
is being the two movies here, It's

1578
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:35,239
just such a fascinating story with so
many moving parts in it and so many

1579
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,680
complicated individuals with their own motivation that
I think just makes it that much that

1580
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:46,319
much more interesting. The yeah,
like I was telling Shaye to you on

1581
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:49,680
the drive home, is just like
you know, sometimes, like on the

1582
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,840
podcast, we watched trailers for things, we talk about them. I used

1583
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,439
to be the person that was like, I don't even want to see any

1584
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,880
trailers for any movie. I just
want to go in as blind as possible.

1585
01:45:58,039 --> 01:46:00,279
I was pretty impressed that I didn't
feel like although the trailer did show

1586
01:46:00,319 --> 01:46:03,560
a lot of big moments, it
really didn't feel like it took anything away

1587
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:10,720
from those moments, like like the
three worms that was that was big in

1588
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:15,800
the trailer, Like them attacking the
Emperor's folks. I don't know why I

1589
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,279
said folks, his his troops.
It like it still felt as epic as

1590
01:46:19,359 --> 01:46:24,239
as as a look there the scene
when he he like yells at the riven

1591
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:27,439
mother just silence, like right in
her face. Every time I saw that

1592
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,600
in the trailer, gaming goosebumps,
and it hit even harder in the movie,

1593
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,399
Like I was looking forward to that
scene and it just it was so

1594
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,279
epic just to see the growth of
where Paul was from the first part to

1595
01:46:36,399 --> 01:46:40,079
now, and it just seems like
he's still growing moving on to the next

1596
01:46:40,119 --> 01:46:44,600
part. So I can't wait for
the next ones. And who knows,

1597
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,600
maybe I'll be diving into the books
by the time that that next part comes

1598
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:50,840
in. But truly truly love this. Great performances, great cinematic experience,

1599
01:46:51,319 --> 01:46:58,079
set set designs, the costumes.
I hope this movie wins awards. I'm

1600
01:46:58,079 --> 01:47:00,479
not really a big award guy,
but like, I just feel like deserves

1601
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,960
it for for my own It's it's
definitely gonna be like I said early on,

1602
01:47:03,159 --> 01:47:06,920
just filling up some Golden Geeks categories
for me. But yeah, great

1603
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:12,399
time. Did did Tyler enjoy it? I forgot to ask him. Yes,

1604
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,800
he did, tea money, Yeah
he he truly, he truly liked.

1605
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,520
He hadn't seen Dune until like I
think a month ago, Like he

1606
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,680
watched it over the first time,
so it was fresh in his mind.

1607
01:47:20,199 --> 01:47:24,600
And yeah, he was. He
was definitely digging it. He he had

1608
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,039
a couple, you know, concerns
or not, maybe concerns but just questions.

1609
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:32,159
But yeah, overall, maybe he'll
give his thoughts the discord. He's

1610
01:47:32,199 --> 01:47:35,720
usually prety quiet in the discord,
but he's more of a watcher, like

1611
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:40,239
I feel that role sometimes as well
in there. But gotta have your lurkers.

1612
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,000
Yeah, there you go. Thank
you everyone so much for listening.

1613
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:46,840
And when we see you next it
won't be boring. Kirklan, howbout you

1614
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:55,760
send us out with one last one
last scream here man, yokey man.

1615
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,800
That was me. That wasn't even
the video. I've just mastered it.