WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:04.360 Three you duos talking about anime. I guess it is important to hear what 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:08.640 they say hops about night and day and now that you listen to the rand 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:19.280 Cafe, Hey, what's going on? Everyone? It's Antam Mack here from 4 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.199 annam Outpro. Welcome to another episode of the Rank Off Anime Podcast. We 5 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:30.039 are here while the world is burning. Literally pollution outside is keeping us from 6 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:34.679 going outside. It's absolutely crazy in Canada and the US and soon coming to 7 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.719 a place near you. So you know, it's a lot of fun. 8 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:45.479 I guess finally being an introverted online streamer person is paying off again. What 9 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:50.640 a Bannon Mack? How's it going great? As as as as I said, 10 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.039 yeah, what's it called? Um? Canada's on fire and they canceled 11 00:00:55.039 --> 00:01:00.520 my volleyball and I'm upset. Oh but kay, I might like ignorant and 12 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.599 dumb. I'm going to play volleyball anyway tonight. That dumb outside outside, 13 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:11.599 like I feel like I feel like I had hailed a lot worse. Briggs. 14 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.640 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, I don't know. I think 15 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.879 I'm treated by lungs like shit. For a little while was an hour of 16 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:25.239 like five percent? Wait wait wait, Briggs, I would highly recommend at 17 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:30.560 least just checking the air quality in your area. It's right now, what 18 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.239 are you talk about five percent? If it's not horrible, then you might 19 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.480 be okay, but just make sure that it's still breathable because you don't like 20 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.319 it's one of those things where it might not affect you now, but it 21 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:48.319 could, uh it could really hurt later on kind of thing like it could 22 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.159 it could could have long term. Yeah, Briggs, the air quality where 23 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.200 you are right now, close to me is unhealthy, so you technically should 24 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:00.959 not be wouldn't recommend. It was seven percent yesterday and today's five. I 25 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:05.359 don't know what are you saying, like what what scale? I don't know 26 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:07.400 what whatever whatever scale the weather network is okay, so that's that's out of 27 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.919 ten, bro, that's not out of one hundred. Yeah, it's out 28 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:17.840 of ten, okay, but you're saying five percent. Yeah, Brega wants 29 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:23.319 to smoke literally, I mean like it's worse for for like people who are 30 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.960 sensitive like respiratory issues, but still recommend doing like outdoor sports right now. 31 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:34.120 Um away. I don't really smoke the grass, but like I was smoking 32 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.360 weed while I had COVID. I feel like I'll be my lungs will be 33 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:38.159 fine for an hour, for an hour playing volleyball. Yeah, bro, 34 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.360 because because humans work like super sands, like what doesn't kill you makes you 35 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.000 stronger? Well, I am built different. It doesn't like there's no like 36 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:50.039 lasting effects of doing stupid stuff like that. It just makes you stronger. 37 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:53.759 Brom Um. I think so. I think if you put your your body 38 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.800 through adversity, you come out built different. Yeah. So New York to 39 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.080 a certain extent, New York's it has been really bad. New York City 40 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:04.919 basically has an orange filter over it right now. Yeah. They were saying 41 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.599 that if you're standing on the street some New York outside for like a long 42 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:09.840 period of time, it's like you're smoking six cigarettes. Yeah, no, 43 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:15.680 it's horribly its fucked. That is so fun. Jesus Christ, Briggs, 44 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.639 what are you on today? I don't know. I'm he stood outside for 45 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:31.319 a little too long. Yesterday my volleyball out canceled. Yesterday I went for 46 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:37.080 a walk. Oh my god. Yeah, I'm probably really ignorant and really 47 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.840 dumb here, but like, yeah, from what I understand for us here, 48 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.000 like where we are, Briggs, They're saying, like, if you 49 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.000 are sensitive, like you have issues, you shouldn't be outside and if you 50 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.919 are healthy, you should be okay, but you should still shouldn't be like 51 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:54.280 doing like heavy exercise outside. God. Yeah, so it's not they're not 52 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:59.000 saying like everyone has to stay at home, but but it's not great. 53 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.159 Yeah, so what I was thinking rather than going for like four hours of 54 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:08.120 volleyball a quick hour and a half and call it a day. Yeah, 55 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.759 bro, you do what do you want? Yeah, I mean I do, 56 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.519 But like if it's equipment, like six cigarettes, it's not that Jesus 57 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:18.399 Christ, Okay, all right, all right, all right? So what 58 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:23.000 so there are some some people that are a little bit confused as to what's 59 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.240 going on. So well, let the Canadians describe what's actually happening up there. 60 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:30.199 Yeah, so there's a bunch of like forest fires happening in Quebec, 61 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.480 which is a province of Canada, and like it's not even close to us, 62 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:36.600 Like to get to where that is, we would have to drive like 63 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:42.240 eight hours without stopping, Like it's a long way away, but the smoke 64 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:44.519 still made it all the way down here and all the way down to like 65 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:47.279 New York and the US East Coast and the air is bad, Like you 66 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:51.199 can smell smoke in the air, even though these fires are like really far 67 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.199 away. It's nuts. That is crazy. That is great considering the actual 68 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.160 distance of the fires. It's nuts that it's affecting our day to day. 69 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:04.040 Yeah, and I am so I'm further south from New York and even I 70 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.959 could see like we didn't have like the orange filter. But just like a 71 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.959 couple of days ago, I was out on a drive and I could see 72 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:15.839 like it was like really really bright and sunny, and then all of a 73 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.279 sudden, I like took one turn off of this freeway and everything was like 74 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:27.160 covered in like a cloud. It seemed like a very hazy cloud. And 75 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.199 then I came back. I like, I went back home and I was 76 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:30.600 like, what the fuck is going on? And they're like, oh yeah, 77 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:35.639 no, uh and it literally mentioned like uh visible like it's like it 78 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:42.079 was basically like forest fire smoke visible in data D like insert location here. 79 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.639 I was like, oh shit, that's what that was. It's yeah, 80 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.720 It's it's crazy. Yeah. And Sam says, always Quebec fucking things up 81 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:50.560 for people. I Mean, people talk a lot of shit about Quebec, 82 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:58.199 but lately it's been pretty lit. Oh my god, And I'm like, 83 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:02.759 how long have you been sitting on that? One days? Yes, in 84 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.279 South Carolina, you should be a okay, it will not go anywhere near 85 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:12.240 you. Um, I'm up in the northeast. Um. Yeah, we 86 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:15.199 never know because we can see things. But like it's kind of wild. 87 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:16.160 It's all about how the wind blow is. Like the wind can blow like 88 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.240 in one direction all of a sudden, it's in freaking Texas. Like you 89 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:23.240 never know. Yeah, you never know. Travel rates are fire stop it 90 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:30.360 speaking of fire. Oh yes, this is fine. This is fine, 91 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.959 which is on fire? So apparently they took it. They took the initial 92 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:39.319 thing back. But the initial thing they wanted was like can I don't want 93 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.920 you guys to get sponsorships. If you get a sponsor, I want some 94 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.759 money. Basically, what they came out with yea of taking fifty percent of 95 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.000 our revenue. They're like, okay, so now you know the things that 96 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:56.160 like all of your top five hundred uh like our top five hundred streamers and 97 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:00.759 uh esports companies and orcs and thing is that people literally used to keep their 98 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:05.480 businesses alive. Yeah, we want we want in on that. And basically 99 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.600 they're like, Oh, we want to we want to make it like impossible 100 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.879 so for you to like, you know, sustain a livable wage for those 101 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:15.639 of you who don't know, because I feel like the way you guys are 102 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.079 describing and you're already presuming that people know what you're talking about. Yeah, 103 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:25.600 Basically, Twitch is the platform for live streaming where we streamed the podcast live 104 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:29.600 before we published in other platforms where truck Chun streams, brig streams. Right, 105 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:31.879 it's like a big thing in the community, And if you're not terminally 106 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.040 online, you might not know this. But lately, recently, like two 107 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.680 days ago, Twitch came up with, like with this big change. And 108 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.319 people already hate Twitch and their changes and all this stuff because they take a 109 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:47.040 huge chunk of streamers money and all this type of stuff, and they came 110 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.160 up with this change that was like, oh, if you have sponsorships, 111 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:55.879 you have to like they're strict rules, like you can't have banner ads in 112 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.480 the stream. It has to like if you have a logo, it only 113 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.959 has to you can only take up like three per cent of your screen, 114 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.040 like like just like these crazy insane things. Plus you can't stream if you 115 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.920 stream for on Twitch, you can't stream on other platforms even if you're not 116 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.959 even a partner. Um. There was something else, so something like if 117 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.720 you want to stop an affiliate or a partner, you have to pay twenty 118 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.160 five dollars to Like that was just for partners, Oh, for partners to 119 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.680 partners, partners had to agree to a new terms of service or a new 120 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.079 contract basically saying that like, we will not multi stream on other platforms and 121 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.120 we will follow all these rules that they take that back back. They took 122 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.320 the multi stream thing back. No, they no, it was just like 123 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.399 they initially, Yeah, they took the sponsorship stuff back with the multi stream 124 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.679 stuff. It was like they originally had it so that we were allowed to 125 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.919 multi stream, and now they're taking that back again. Yeah, so they're 126 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.559 letting me stream on any other platform we want at a different times. But 127 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.399 for some reason, the multi streaming is not a okay. UM, And 128 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:56.879 basically, if you don't agree to this contract, you will lose your partner 129 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:00.919 check mark and you have to not only lose your partner check mark, but 130 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.120 you have to pay them twenty five bucks. What the fuck? How down 131 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.200 bad is twitched right now that they need twenty five dollars, and honestly, 132 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.279 Twitch has been making ridiculous mistake after mistake, from like enforcing their rules very 133 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:18.600 like biasedly and nonsensically, to increasing how much money they take from content creators 134 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:24.240 to now trying to limit the content creator sponsorships and stuff, even though because 135 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.279 they take so much of the content creators, the content creators are basically forced 136 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.120 to to, you know, have sponsorships, Like they take of your the 137 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.279 ads. How much do they take like ninety percent or something like crazy like 138 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:39.600 that, they switched it. They were they were giving they were giving us 139 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.440 three percent, but now it's like fifty to fifty five three percent they were 140 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.279 giving. So they were taking ninety seven percent of the ads people watched. 141 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.080 Oh my god. Initially they take one hundred percent of the ad revenue. 142 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.799 Just give me one hundred percent of the subs. I'd be down for that. 143 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.840 Yeah, but there. Yeah, So the thing. The thing is 144 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:05.279 Twitch has already been very un popular and the competition has been rising YouTube streaming 145 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:09.279 and Kick. Obviously we've been talking about Kick a few episodes and stuff like 146 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.000 that. But yeah, and you you would think, okay, Twitch these 147 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.399 more competition. YouTube is buying some of their biggest talent. Now Kick is 148 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.039 showing up, giving way more money to the streamer. You would think Twitch 149 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.399 would be like, Okay, we gotta do something to keep people on the 150 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.440 platform. Like no, they literally knuke themselves. Everyone was talking about this, 151 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.080 like and saying how they're idiots. The biggest streamers you know, like 152 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.039 most critical made multiple videos. Everyone was talking about it like just like this 153 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.919 is the worst thing, Like people who work for Twitch are literally idiots, 154 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.639 Like and I honestly, I'm starting to think now that whoever works for Twitch 155 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.320 is trying to destroy Twitch, Like I don't know, basically, I don't 156 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.360 know if I don't know if it's like a YouTube, I don't know what 157 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.679 it is, or if it's like Twitch just isn't profitable for um Amazon and 158 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.399 Amazon owns it, and they're just like, listen, we need we need 159 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.639 to shut this shit down. Let's just get it to the point where it's 160 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.679 like you can should the investors looks and it's not working. People are leaving 161 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.840 the platform. We need to shut it down. Like that, to me 162 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:11.000 right now is more believable than the idea that they're so stupid. H so 163 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:18.840 um. Couple things one kicks Kick is kind of like the only real I 164 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:24.240 think the only real like combat, like like competition for Twitch at the moment, 165 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.080 because YouTube, I feel like it's trying to put a little bit more 166 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.960 energy into their video content as well as the shorts content to kind of like 167 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.200 battle TikTok a little bit, because I don't think they're like going to be 168 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.360 put pouring a lot of their assets into their streaming outside of getting there already 169 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:45.679 large creators on there. And the thing with Kick is I don't like, 170 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.159 while yes, that's very it's very enticing to go to Kick because of what 171 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:54.159 they're promising a little bit more, however they are. They also technically Twitches 172 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.559 made made money off of Kick, like for using their own format. They 173 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.240 had to pay to get the form matt off of Twitch, so I didn't 174 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.320 even know that. Yeah, so they they pretty much stole the entire four 175 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.639 like, yeah, steal it. That's the thing is, they didn't steal 176 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.240 it. They bought it. They bought the they bought the originl So technically, 177 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.600 if Twitch fails and falls, so does Kick. And I don't think 178 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.639 that Kicks actually able to make sustainable income off of that, like ninety five 179 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.919 five split, They're not making money off that. They're making money off people 180 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.440 getting addicted to gambling and losing their money exactly. So it's also a moral 181 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:30.919 issue. And then there's also you know, the people that are the face 182 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:37.159 of Kick are like, it's a little Aidan Ross. Uh yeah, man, 183 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:43.039 oh oh he's such an idiot, I must say one of the founders. 184 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.080 Oh he's a founder. No, that's you're thinking of train wreck. 185 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.399 Yeah. I thought it was just like a guy who went over to Kick. 186 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.000 Yeah, Aidan Ross has got paid as okay, but he got bought 187 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.559 over. But he's currently like one of the most popular shoes. Yeah, 188 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.639 they pushed him like he's he's the face of it right now. Yeah. 189 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.159 I mean it's like I don't know, like I I don't have I don't 190 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:07.960 think Twitch is any in any way morally superior to Kick, Like Twitch is 191 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.200 trash too. Honestly, they're they're pretty much the same shit because at the 192 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.799 end of the day, like there's like Twitch did band gambling. I think 193 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:18.679 people should build a gamble on stream personally. Um, and if you go 194 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.120 on Twitch you can still find hundred of the channels that are still gambling. 195 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.399 Yeah, we're doing other other things, like you know, like doing bathtub 196 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.519 streams for like teenage kids and like you know what they're doing. So I 197 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.639 don't think Twitch is any morally superior. It's just a matter of who's going 198 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.159 to be more sustainable. If anything, I think Kike has a better business 199 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.840 model. They have a product a website that they want to promote, steak 200 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.080 whatever, and they're like, we'll create it. Well, we'll create a 201 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.639 better streaming service that pays the creators better. And then if people want to 202 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.960 watch gambling streams, which like you know, as long as they're adults, 203 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.639 I think they should problem with trying to stop kids from watching it or right. 204 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:58.559 Yeah, But at the end of the day, I'm like they I 205 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.519 feel like they actually have a business model. They're like, we're going to 206 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:03.519 keep the ad revenue. Like creators on kick don't get paid ad revenue, 207 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.759 all right, Kick Kick keeps the ad revenue and that's why they get this. 208 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.360 That's where they get the so they get the subs and whatnot, because 209 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:16.960 that stuff is not as it's not as reliablem says. Kick is on Amazon 210 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.960 server services. Yes, Amazon, they all run the servers that they're using, 211 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:24.879 right, So so if Twitch were or Amazon were to drop Twitch like 212 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.639 completely. They were to shut him down completely. They were to shut him 213 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.279 down and Twitch is no longer a thing. Guess what kick also goes by 214 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.759 by? YouTube's the only place that you can go at this point or but 215 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.840 you know, there's nothing else and it's like the the competition for Twitch is 216 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:48.840 also like dependent on Twitch. One up? Is that one thing I wanted 217 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.720 to ask you, Truck is like you dismissed YouTube pretty quickly, but aren't 218 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.080 like the biggest v tuber agencies and stuff streaming exclusively on YouTube? No, 219 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.639 doesn't that say something? I mean, I'm not. I'm Here's the thing 220 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:09.919 I'm saying, not only streaming on YouTube or stream on Twitch. They stream 221 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:16.039 on Twitch they yeah, there's yeah yeah streaming. So YouTube streaming is definitely 222 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:22.240 focused on those big corporate things. I'm saying. Discoverability on YouTube right now 223 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.039 is a it's also it's not very good and it's all. Here's the thing. 224 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.720 Discoverability on any of these platforms is also like bad, like it's not 225 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.279 good. Um YouTube thing the one that the things that I will give them 226 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.200 their ads are better for live streams because they're not invasive like twitches. Yeah, 227 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:48.480 they and they pay their creators better. Everybody's got that seventy thirty. 228 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.039 But their chat, but their chat and you YouTube is so big. But 229 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.480 the thing is, it's not big for just streaming. No, I know, 230 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.559 like thing is there, it's it's it's also not focused on the uh, 231 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.559 the user basis like it's I don't know, it's not it's not it's 232 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.240 Yeah, their their chat services and their chatbots are like really fucking shitty. 233 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.279 Yeah, YouTube is weird. We talked about this before because YouTube has spent 234 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.240 a bunch of money to bring some of the top twitch streamers over to YouTube, 235 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.399 and yet they haven't figured out some very basic things in the live streaming 236 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.840 sphere, like because they don't want to their resources into it. They don't 237 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.320 want to pour their resources into it. It is too big for its own 238 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.919 good. There is no competition with YouTube. But then why bother paying all 239 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:32.080 that money to bring big creators from Twitch. I just think YouTube has a 240 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.399 bunch of different departments that don't communicate well together. Oh yeah, that's there 241 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.759 are a bunch of people that just work nine to five. They write some 242 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.240 shit on a whiteboard like this is a plan that we have in action, 243 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:41.639 and then they just don't. I don't know if they don't get the funding 244 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:45.240 for the fully execute the plans or they just don't care. It just seems 245 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.240 like their priorities or number one videos, number two shorts, and live streaming 246 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.440 is just thrown into the corner somewhere. That's exactly what I think. They 247 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.919 don't want to pour their resources and they don't really care to because they don't 248 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.360 need to. But then why spend the tens of millions of dollars is to 249 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.680 bring over some content creators but not fully execute the plan. I was gonna 250 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:10.480 say, because it's it's pretty much. It's pretty much that like YouTube wanted 251 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.400 to buy there there, they weren't buying streamers, they were buying communities. 252 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.519 They're like, let's take the the Let's take the streamers that have the absolute 253 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.480 like that are at the absolute top, like top point three percent of Twitch. 254 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:27.359 Let's buy their communities because we can guarantee that those guys are going to 255 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.799 have dedicated fans that will switch and go over to wherever that person is going 256 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.960 to, Like they're gonna they're gonna go there, So they're gonna buy the 257 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.319 people that are going to spend the money. They're they're gonna buy the people 258 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.200 that are gonna gon you know, pay for like the the you know, 259 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:44.759 YouTube premium to make sure that they can watch their their streamer ad free or 260 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.519 do a subscription or whatever it is for um, whatever their version of a 261 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.680 subscription is. For YouTube streamers, they're like, all right, well let's 262 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.000 build this because this can help them, and it can also like their algorithm, 263 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.680 like their video algorithm won't be as effected as much. Whereas they're not 264 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.319 going to take a you know, a smaller thirty forty viewer Andy on Twitch 265 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:08.720 and pay them book dollars to go to YouTube exclusively. They're not buying a 266 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:12.039 community, then you're buying a person. So I understand. I feel like 267 00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:15.240 if I were to run a YouTube program for live streaming, I would say 268 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:21.680 step one, bring over three to five big, big, big Twitch streamers, 269 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:23.960 like huge stream streamers that their communities are going to come with them different 270 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.960 demographics, right yeah. Step two maybe bring over fifty two one hundred medium 271 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:33.119 sized streamers with small packages. You offer a couple of hundred people fifty k 272 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.920 twenty five k. Even if they're making more on Twitch, they might consider 273 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.720 the change because they're still gonna make sub revenue, ad revenue and stuf on 274 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.160 YouTube. And then step three, you got to change your UI, you're 275 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:48.599 interface to promote streaming because there's an algorithm. There's millions of millions of people 276 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.279 on the platform. If you look at the YouTube app, most people consume 277 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:55.799 YouTube on mobile devices. You got homepage, you got shorts, which is 278 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.759 which is their prioritizing. You got a plus for creation. Most people don't 279 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:02.160 create content, but they know it's fine, especially not on their phone. 280 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:06.039 It's fine. Keep the plus. You got subscriptions, which is needed. 281 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:10.599 And then library. What the fuck is library? Yeah, it's like your 282 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.079 histories in there, and then like a couple other things. It's like, 283 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.599 it's so dumb. You can put somewhere else. The library at the top, 284 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.440 put it next to your profile name or something. But then the settings 285 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.440 put it near the settings in that list. Literally have live streaming right there, 286 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.480 so people could scroll through live streamers. And that's it. You do 287 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:29.920 that three step plan YouTube, and I promise you you would crush Twitch and 288 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.680 kick in three to five months. Yeah, it wouldn't take I don't think 289 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:36.240 it would take much for them, but I think they genuinely just don't care. 290 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:40.680 That's the thing is I don't think they care enough to take down Amazon. 291 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:42.599 They don't care. They're like they're so beneath us at we don't care, 292 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.119 Like they don't care about they don't care about their their creators. That 293 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:49.640 or they don't care about getting new creators. Yeah. I think if YouTube 294 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.119 just like we've got our we've got our big guys were done. If YouTube 295 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.039 actually took this, they could like take Twitch out in a year. I 296 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:00.279 think like they were absolutely crushed them, Like I would leave. I would. 297 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.000 All they have to do is literally, like even if they like bought 298 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.480 out, like the chat Ui, because that's the thing that keeps a lot 299 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.880 of Twitch streamers is or it keeps a lot of people on Twitch is because 300 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.880 the the like, um what is it like? The the actual like the 301 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:21.200 chat Ui and a lot of the automnat settings are actually very very well done 302 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:26.000 on Twitch. It's very user friendly, um like chatter friendly is what I 303 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.240 mean, not just not just creator friendly, it's very chatter friendly. There's 304 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:33.880 a lot of fun, customizable things that you can do, um that YouTube 305 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.640 just doesn't have. Yeah, And the thing and it's like literally all they 306 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:38.759 have to do is do that, Like you got Ludwig, and you know, 307 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:42.119 he's got a small team that's working on trying to improve that. One 308 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:45.640 of your creators is literally trying to say, here, I'm trying to give 309 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.720 you a bone. If you want to take this company down, here you 310 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.119 go. Here's here's another step in doing that. Like he's trying to just 311 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.599 straight up just give it to them. Yeah, the differences, the differences, 312 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.880 Like Kick is a new website that has to bring people completely overnew people 313 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.440 to that website. YouTube already has so many people on it. It's just 314 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:07.400 a matter of how to have like a special you know, you have a 315 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:08.960 short section, you go a video section, have like a live section, 316 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:12.880 maybe even a separate YouTube live app. That's the functions Like the Twitch app, 317 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:18.279 you go in there and live is prioritized, you know, And but 318 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.359 it's easy to switch over if you want to watch videos, if you want 319 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:26.240 to watch shorts. It's like so much smarter than than what's going on now. 320 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:29.880 But yeah, I don't know so ione In fact that there's a live 321 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.319 category right below the search bar on YT on your computer. At least that's 322 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.640 for the desktop version. Probably less than ten percent of people watch YouTube on 323 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:40.880 desktop. Most people are on mobile advices, yeah, and or their TVs 324 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.599 is the big Yeah. Mobile mobile is like the number one like usage because 325 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.319 people are on the go, they want to listen to their YouTube videos or 326 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.720 whatnot on the on the on the on. I think you killed it with 327 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.960 YouTube shorts. They too. Sorry, my apologies. Sorry, I was 328 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.240 just reading I was reading chat and I didn't realize I was reading out loud. 329 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.079 You're good, so sorry, Like they took TikTok and did something good 330 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:08.480 with it. I think like Twitch has failed to innovate for way too long 331 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.680 and they're what they what they do implement is just garbage over and over again. 332 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:18.200 Like why is the highlighting and clip system not run like TikTok. At 333 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.400 this point, there should be a bar at the top where like people watch 334 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:25.200 clips and stuff like that, and then it promotes live streamer. I feel 335 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:26.839 like that was the purpose that should be, Like I should be able to 336 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:33.519 upload a fifteen second short or like TikTok type thing of me, like shooting 337 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.559 on people in Apex, and then they could see that I'm live, and 338 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.039 like people could scroll short form content. It's fun. Maybe throw some ads 339 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.960 in there every ten or whatever, and then they go they find a streamer. 340 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.119 Yeah, that's the thing. You gotta be able to scroll past those 341 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.880 ads or hit a button within three to five seconds. Make it easy. 342 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.640 Has already talked about doing that. Kick has already talked about having like a 343 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:03.400 TikTok esque shorts that promote streamer, so people could upload short form content and 344 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.359 promote. That would be amazing. Meanwhile, I would be in here like 345 00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:07.920 I'm going to do the same thing and charge you twenty five bucks if you 346 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.799 want to leave. And the other good thing about YouTube is if you get 347 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.000 YouTube Premium, which is like I don't know, like ten bucks a month 348 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:19.680 or something, you don't see ads on anything. Yep. So fun fact, 349 00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:26.720 Twitch actually does have something that's called Twitch Turbo and you can pay them 350 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.960 a monthly subscription. They've had it forever, but they don't advertise it very 351 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.599 much. You pay for the subscription, you don't see ads across anybody, 352 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.400 but you don't get any It's it's literally a worse subscription because while you don't 353 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.079 get ads across every plat, like, you don't get ads across any stream 354 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.759 no matter who you're watching, and you actually do get to support that streamer, 355 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:49.960 you would still have to pay for like you know, per streamer subscription 356 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.680 to a give them a little bit more money with that sub and also if 357 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:59.519 you want to unlock the chat perch like um, you know, like like 358 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.799 the emodes or whatever. Yeah, and I mean YouTube has out too, 359 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:07.039 because YouTube has the premium and then makes sense for YouTube, it makes sense. 360 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.519 Yeah, with YouTube, you also get a ton of videos you can 361 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:11.599 watch it or long before. You get a bunch of Yeah, you get 362 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.039 a bunch of other Yeah, you get a bunch of other things. Whereas 363 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:21.599 for it's very it's very dumb. Um with YouTube, also get YouTube music. 364 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.559 M Hm. I'm trying to I was trying to say, there was 365 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:27.519 one thing that I wanted to bring up about the recent stuff that happened with 366 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:32.240 Twitch, so um I WOULDJUSO mentioned it earlier and I wanted to actually bring 367 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:37.680 it back. Um. So one of the main reasons why Twitch actually backed 368 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:42.279 down from the initial stuff about the content uh like the like the sponsored content 369 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:48.480 shit was because they actually listened to their ambassadors. They have Twitch ambassadors out 370 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:52.160 there that actually got into a meeting or got into a group call zoom meeting, 371 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.319 whatever the fuck it was. Uh, they actually all talked and were 372 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.880 like, hey, you cannot do this to your creators. You will lose 373 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:03.960 you your platform. Like it was literally like that that move and that quick 374 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.599 jump to say like, hey, we're gonna like take branded content away or 375 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:15.200 like severely limited and like scrutinize and really heavily enforce this and use YouTube as 376 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:17.160 the cop out and be like, oh they have this in place, it's 377 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:21.319 like yeah, but they don't actually use it, uh, or they don't 378 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:26.519 utilize it. It's literally there as a cushion to basically approve any bands. 379 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.359 But they actually listened to the ambassadors and said, oh, hey, you 380 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:33.559 guys need to back out on this right now or you're losing your platform. 381 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.960 And they did. They did, and I'm really hoping that they take like 382 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.920 that's what the ambassadors were created for. That's why they are there. So 383 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.440 why wouldn't they do this before. Why wouldn't they have done it before because 384 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:49.279 already kind of done. Oh yeah, absolutely. But it's one of those 385 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:55.160 things where it's like, Okay, you weren't using your ambassadors beforehand, but 386 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.359 you're gonna listen to them now, great, but why didn't you just talk 387 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.200 to your community Because it's it's it's at the end of the day. They 388 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.599 don't care because they're in the red trying to get they want twenty five bucks 389 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.599 from their for their partners. How bad are they? How down bad are 390 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.480 they? I need to look at their accounting and like, so they're like 391 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.720 quarterly reports and stuff like so badly, because how down bad are you that 392 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.920 you want twenty five bucks from like Jimmy down the Street that's streaming. I 393 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.279 don't fucking understand from a seventy five view or Andy, Like, it's ridiculous. 394 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:33.319 You are everyone's revenue. Yeah, it's you already. You already take 395 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.880 half of our revenue from supported stuff. You're taking half from the ads. 396 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.599 It's crazy. They said they backed out on it. It's still in their 397 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.759 term of service. They all did the multi streaming thing. They all they 398 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.200 have to the multi streaming thing fucking instantly. I already signed the contract right 399 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:49.720 before the stream. But you know what's still you know what's still there, 400 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:56.839 the fucking brand content, the branded content thing. Yea, what happened. 401 00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.559 I don't know if we made this clear, but what happened is after everyone 402 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.960 freak tell like all of Twitter, all of YouTube, we're making videos about 403 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.880 it freaking out about the Twitch update. Twitch came back and said, oh, 404 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.920 we heard the community. I don't think you guys understood what we meant. 405 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.519 Mean while I won't understood what they meant. And then they backtracked and 406 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:17.720 said we will not do this stuff anymore. But it's not quite clear what 407 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.960 exactly they backtracked on, Like was it everything or are they going to keep 408 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.720 some stuff but just like backtrack on the stuff that was the most controversial. 409 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.119 Yeah, we're not sure yet. From my understanding, I think they still 410 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.319 want it so that you don't use third party like softwares to like run ads 411 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.119 on your platform, because that's what they're doing. That's what Twitch is providing, 412 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.640 like they I think they're going to keep it that. Like, for 413 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.599 example, if I have a contact over at like I don't know, I 414 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.440 fucking g fuel. Let's say like g fuel, I should still be able 415 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.880 to be like this stream is sponsored by g fuel, and they could promote 416 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.920 like a certain like event or like I could maybe put something on my screen 417 00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:56.119 stream to show that like thirty percent off g fuel, Like I should still 418 00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.759 be able to do that. But what they don't want is to me to 419 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.559 put like a browser source on my stream that runs ads every thirty minute that 420 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.440 like changes it like to a different thing. They don't they don't want it 421 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.440 to be like an automated experience through a third party. I'm pretty sure they're 422 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.519 against that. And also stream elements mass sends out like a ton of sponsorship 423 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.359 to creators. I think they're against that, but I'm not sure they were. 424 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.319 It was it was going to go against it because in those sponsorship like 425 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:29.319 packs, it's they they expect you in return for uh, you know, 426 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:34.759 them paying you. They're expecting things like banner ads or for example, for 427 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:40.319 like big events that like so like say, for example, like Charlie's if 428 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:45.240 Charlie's doing an esports you know thing for something for moist esports and they're watching, 429 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.039 say they're you know, he used ouper g X as an example. 430 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.400 Oper GX in that sponsorship pack packet includes banner ads and then we make goofy 431 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.839 little audio ads to play or visual and audio and visual ads to play during 432 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.359 there where we do bits and we talk about uh we talk about oper GX 433 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.640 and blah blah blah, and they're expected to do that. But they couldn't 434 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.440 play those ads during those watch parties if they you know it, like because 435 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.200 they do the watch parties on Twitch that they can watch their team and support 436 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:17.519 it and support the organ They cannot do that if if these terms of service 437 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:22.680 are employees, it's so tone death because the amount of charity events and like 438 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.680 this, this general esports gaming events that would literally cease to exist without sponsors 439 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:37.119 is stalarant challengers like the BCTs might they have to pay employees to run these 440 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.000 events, right, everything everything, and obviously like esports team need to get 441 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.119 paid and all that. So it's like this would cease to exist without sponsors 442 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:51.000 promoting it. Yeah, and it's funny, just money hungering sponsors aren't going 443 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.720 to promote it if you can't fucking give them a little ad. Real. 444 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:57.839 Yeah, it's funny because there was just there was a big controversy recently with 445 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.279 Cute Cinderella doing like a word show and being sponsored by fans Lee yeah and 446 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.240 doing that a war trow was like there was like a bunch of fansy ads 447 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.880 and shoutting out fans y just like you said, drug Sun and then people 448 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.279 were complaining like okay, so most of your audience is probably like underage kids, 449 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:15.799 and you're promoting fancy to it and all that type of stuff, and 450 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.559 so you I feel like YouTube has like a rule where you can't have links 451 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.119 in your description for sponsors that have like not safe for work stuff, so 452 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.880 faku and nutaku and stuff. When people used to have those sponsorhips, some 453 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.359 of those videos actually got taken down retroactively and you got like community strikes for 454 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:33.720 it. It was like a big thing. So I could understand if which 455 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.720 was like, okay, you can do stuff that links directly to like porn 456 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.519 content, but it wasn't even now there like all sponsors are fucked, Like 457 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:42.839 it's like they don't even want me to have g fuel, Like I have 458 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.880 a G Feel T shirt. Does this take up more than three percent of 459 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.279 the screen? Boys, that didn't count. That didn't count. The teacher 460 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:49.720 doesn't count. But if I do not count, if I were to put 461 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:55.799 the logo above my camera, it would count. No, No, I 462 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.160 would no, no no. Even with that, Even with that, they 463 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:02.759 were like, what does not out is if you are wearing merchandise that happens 464 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.079 to include the brand's logo and like to be like if they don't care a 465 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.440 lot of streamers, what they do is they have their camera and then above 466 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:11.799 their camera they put like is the logo? Yeah, no, I have 467 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.119 to logo in the top corner. It has to add to be like smaller, 468 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.599 it had to be smaller. Yeah, it seems just so stupid. 469 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.920 Anyway, let's talk about some anime boys. Yeah, so an so speaking 470 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.880 of anime, like obviously wanted to talk about this um because it's part of 471 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.079 the anime and and the podcasting community. It's such huge news and it's just 472 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.960 twitches a freaking disaster. But um, like I said, I think someone's 473 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.839 trying to run into the ground on purpose. But in terms of anime, 474 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.599 I have some interesting news, guys, I have some interesting news from our 475 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:42.000 good friend anime recon. Oh boy, he the other day he DMS me. 476 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.200 I guess what he says? What did he say? He says? 477 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.680 He did? He say I miss you right before the podcast starts, because 478 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.319 he does that than me. No sometimes does This time, he was like, 479 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.799 Animac, I have to tell you something. I'm like what he's like, 480 00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:01.759 I don't. I think that Vinlain Saga is my new favorite anime. 481 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:09.559 I think it's even better than Sword Art Online. Wow. And I was 482 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.599 like, oh, it's obviously fucking better than Sword Online Recon. But yes, 483 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.319 yes, you're growing. I was gonna say, you don't. You 484 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.960 don't want to you don't want to come at him with the with the thing 485 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.960 that said that is a w for recon. All right, we can't come 486 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:28.880 at him with oh, of course, because then it's gonna then then his 487 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:34.039 uh, his, his contrarian is just as strong as is his ego is 488 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:37.119 just as big as yours, Animac, if not bigger. And yeah, 489 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:38.880 so we should bring him on at some point. And I talk about Villain 490 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.559 Saga and kind of like indoctrinate him into the It's okay for essay O to 491 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:47.160 not be your favorite anime bro. Yeah, oh my god. All right, 492 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.799 speaking of Villain Saga, did you watch the most recent episode? And 493 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:53.799 I don't think I saw the this week? No, I don't think I 494 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.960 saw. Well what even if I saw it, would would you spoil it? 495 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.000 You wouldn't. You're so about spoilers, So I don't want to spoil 496 00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.720 for truck show. No, we're not spoiling see, so we couldn't have 497 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.000 talked about it anyway. The hundred punches were crazy, That's all I'm gonna 498 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:12.640 say, that's wild. I'm excited. I gotta binge season two. Did 499 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.119 you did you watch the not the last one, the one before that word 500 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:17.599 ended off with one hundred punches, Like he made an agreement, Yes, 501 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:21.519 a little bargain, Yeah, yeah, in order to see the King. 502 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.000 Yeah. Yes, it's fucking crazy. This is what I've been waiting all 503 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:30.480 season four. But it's frustrating. Bro, it's hard to watch. It's 504 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:31.680 like, why, Bro, just kick his ass? You know you can 505 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:35.839 kick his ass. Well, he's a pacifist, Bro, that's fine. 506 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.359 Stupid, don't be a passive like okay, then you don't like the Oh 507 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:44.119 my god, I love it. It's great, but I'm still frustrated. 508 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:50.160 For really, the next one hundred episodes are going to be him trying to 509 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.880 find a way to like like he's trying to figure out, can we solve 510 00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.319 stuff without violence? Violence is always the first, the first and only option 511 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.599 for Vikings majoritar The other time, it's like, oh, we have a 512 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.119 disagreement war, someone's about wage war with me. We must fight back, 513 00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:12.960 Like he's trying to find is there another way? And I love I love 514 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.639 the series. I loved season two, but I personally get frustrated at some 515 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.320 of Thorphin's decisions, but that doesn't mean that it makes a series worse. 516 00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:27.400 It's just like an interesting Yeah, I think that's happening because because other characters 517 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.880 are clearly engaging in a violent acts when they feel like that it's necessary. 518 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.079 So it's not like the whole series is just like all they're hanging out and 519 00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.559 nothing's happening, Like like look at Canute, bro. Yeah, Canute is 520 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.719 like the opposite. He's like, I gotta do what I gotta do for 521 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.800 the greater good. I gotta be as machiavellian as possible. I feel like 522 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.519 they're like they're kind of foils because Canute started off like against war and violence 523 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.840 and very timid and stuff, while with all about revenge and hate and violence 524 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.039 and that what he his entire life was on the battlefield, right, And 525 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:05.800 now he's he's realized the amount of lives he's ruined, the amount of families 526 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.480 he's ruined, the PTSD that comes with the amount of people he's killed. 527 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.360 And in the very very beginning, like Thor's was trying to teach him that 528 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.239 he had no enemies, and yeah, that a true warrior, a true 529 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.880 warrior doesn't need a sword, something doesn't need a sword or something. Yeah, 530 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.960 and was like yeah, exactly, and he's trying to figure out what 531 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:29.079 that means, right, Um, So that's kind of the journey he's on 532 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:35.000 now. And obviously when you're in when there's wars being waged all around you, 533 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.880 it's it's tough. Yeah, I mean, it is a really tough 534 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:42.320 world to be in. So like at one point you could see the tor 535 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.440 Frien was kind of like, oh, I don't care if I if they 536 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.119 even kill me or if I live or die, Like who cares. But 537 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:52.840 then with everything that happened, you know, with the slaves situation, um, 538 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:59.239 he was driven to once again act like he wasn't like I'm gonna be 539 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.119 a pacifist and just sit there and meditate. He was like, no, 540 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.760 this is clearly unjust and I have to do something. So he did do 541 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.960 something. But then I guess pacifist isn't the right word. It's more I 542 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:15.639 think it is to an extent. It is he's still trying to be a 543 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.320 warrior, but without killing and fighting, and like, I don't know, 544 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.519 I don't know if warriors the right word. But Thorst was trying to saying 545 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:23.320 a true warrior has no enemies, A true warrior hat doesn't doesn't need a 546 00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.360 sword, And I feel like he's trying to figure out how to solve conflicts 547 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:32.920 without fighting, without killing at least m So, Yeah, I guess pacifist 548 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.639 is the right word. But like, obviously there's a lot of killing going 549 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:37.480 on near him, and he's trying to figure out how to stop it. 550 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:42.679 Yeah. Yeah, so, like I like him as a character, That's 551 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.639 why I don't like him to see him getting his ass kicked and not fighting 552 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.800 back. What I mean, you know, that's part of the experience. 553 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.199 Yeah, I feel like a hundred punchers maybe isn't the smartest way to go 554 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.360 about it, especially when you're so strong. But you know, he's trying 555 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.119 to figure that out. He's trying to figure that out, right, Yeah, 556 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.000 you could have just been like, whoever knocks the other guy down first 557 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.039 wins or something and then kill him. He doesn't kill him, he just 558 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.440 like knocks him down. That's true, and the guy would have still taken 559 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.280 the bet because he's so much bigger physically. He would have like, this 560 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.920 guy's never gonna take me down. Um. So an important question, have 561 00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:21.480 either of you two started watching Mashell and or Oshanoco yet Oshanoko. I actually 562 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.480 I actually did start watching Oshanoko. Like, did you finish the first time 563 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.599 the other day? Yes? Nice? What did you think? I definitely 564 00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.320 see the hype? Um well, I think I watched the first two or 565 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:38.199 three episodes. Oh hell yeah, um, and I was very very very 566 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.559 pleased. I was like, okay, I get it now, emotional damage 567 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:47.519 a little bit. Um. I was very very excited. I have not 568 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.440 watched Nashville yet, but I do want to. I do want to to 569 00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.639 catch up with that one. Um. I think the only reason I was 570 00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:58.119 able to actually watch uh Oshanoko is because I was able to do other things 571 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.599 because a dumb started airing. Um, so I was actually able to like 572 00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.960 do other things and also like, you know, pay attention when it was 573 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.079 important. Um, because ADHD doesn't let me watch subs a lot of the 574 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.360 times, and especially for an hour and a half movie. Rough. Uh 575 00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.840 but yes, no, it was awesome. I was very very excited and 576 00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.639 I'm very very much so looking forward to seeing how the story progresses. Dude, 577 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:22.920 I'm I can't believe how invested I am in oshano co. I'm kind 578 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:29.760 of so good because especially where it is now, it's like I feel this 579 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.320 is not my normal type of animate but I'm so fucking invested. It's crazy, 580 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:36.440 it's good, it's good, it's it's you know it kind of it 581 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.960 duped you a little bit, and I was very very impressed, very I 582 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.400 was. I could see the hype and also the music. Bangers. They 583 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:50.840 got banger after banger. Both the opening and the and the ed are like 584 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:54.719 solid, solid pieces of music. I really really like them. And uh, 585 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.880 yeah, no, I'm excited. I'm very excited, Briggs. I 586 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.719 do Fox with Mash, but like I'm I can't bring myself to give a 587 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.400 shit about Ocean Coo. I'm gonna have to like force myself to watch it. 588 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.639 But like I would say, Oceano Coo is better than Mash this season. 589 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.559 Oh, I can't believe it. I would I do it. I 590 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.960 read the synopsis and people told me, like what happened in the first episode, 591 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:21.480 and I'm just like, I don't care. I don't know. I 592 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:25.280 think the way that they present it though, is so good. Yeah, 593 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.440 like it's it's intriguing. You wouldn't think it's like you know that, Like 594 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.559 here's the thing I I snoozed on it for a while because I was like, 595 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.440 uh, I don't know, like, you know, it doesn't seem 596 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.320 like my piece, like my kind of show, blah blah blah. It 597 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.239 is. It absolutely is. It's even if it isn't your normal cup of 598 00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.039 tea, it becomes your cup of tea, like very quickly because of the 599 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.639 way that they present it. Win because if I like it, then I 600 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:52.280 can talk about it. If I hate it, then I can be like, 601 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:59.320 you guys are idiots. You can be your elitist grim best. So 602 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.599 yeah, I don't you're gonna say that it's a cringe fest. Though I 603 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.719 might not think, I can uinely think that you are going to enjoy it. 604 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:08.679 Yeah, I gotta bring myself to do it. I gotta bring myself 605 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.679 to do it because every week I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go watch 606 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.079 it's the first episode is literally it's just the first episode. Yes, okay, 607 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:20.320 okay, you gotta put it through the first like twenty thirty minutes and 608 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.480 then I think episode the rest of the episode one is pretty fire. You 609 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.599 got to push through the first twenty thirty episodes. No, No, the 610 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.760 concept itself is a little bit cringe yes, I heard that, and then 611 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:39.000 episode two kind of jumps into it completely isn't completely change, but you know, 612 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.519 I don't want to spoil it. Whatever, the overall vibe definitely shift. 613 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:45.599 Yes an episode two onward, the vibe shifts, and I think there's 614 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:51.159 a lot of interesting things within, like the entertainment industry and like they have 615 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.880 YouTubers and fucking like reality shows and a bunch of different things going on. 616 00:40:54.199 --> 00:41:00.239 Whoa whoa, whoa whoa Briggs spring Water says. Someone tells Mark the main 617 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.199 character is Markiavellian? Does the main character Markiavellian? I honestly, he kind 618 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:12.239 of is what I think about the last two episodes. When I think about 619 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.079 the last two episodes, I feel like, yeah, he's willing to He 620 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:21.679 definitely is. Yes, he is. Now you have my attention. The 621 00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:29.639 ycare we go only get more Machiavellion. There needs to be a tag Machiavellian 622 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.360 like anime site so I could just click and then just watch stuff. I 623 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:36.719 like you you know when like so Adam Mac, you got spoiled already, 624 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:37.719 you know that, you know it's like an adult in a yeah, like 625 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.039 or in the first epiode, adult in a child yeah, and that's that's 626 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.400 like the first reason when I heard that, I'm like this, I'm not 627 00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.480 watching this ship. But this is so fucking obviously throughout the series he gets 628 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:50.559 he does, he does get older, And I do want to say that, 629 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.400 like for the most for the most part, a lot of the time, 630 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.719 when there's an older person in a young body, it's like weird and 631 00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:02.400 creepy or doesn't feel right now, it's it's like funny, and it like 632 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:08.000 works. He just more mature, He's like it works, like they handle 633 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:13.280 it in a smarter way and like you're invested in I guess being the old 634 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.239 man that you are, I feel like you would connect a lot with his 635 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.519 character. And I kind of did too. Also, if he's Macchiavelli and 636 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.760 it's just a win win, so he's Maiavellian baby who thinks his own mom 637 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:28.039 is hot. Is that what's happening? No, I mean, I guess 638 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.119 a little bit of kind of, but like it's fine, it's not. 639 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.360 They don't they don't approach those things as being like weird or creepy, and 640 00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:40.400 I think it's it's genuinely a little bit more of a like the motives are 641 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:46.599 definitely a bit more wholesome. Okay, yeah, I'll I'll commit it's weird. 642 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.440 It's not weird pervy like like people are being I was like they, 643 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:58.280 I was like, they don't pull him with this. It's it's very I 644 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.199 think you. I think you'll really enjoy it. Okay, spots And has 645 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.679 asked me, have I been caught up to one Piece? I assum I 646 00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:06.840 mean the manga, and yes, I have it. It's been insane. 647 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:12.159 Bro Briggs probably doesn't even know because he falls behind one up, but Bro, 648 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.280 the manga has been insane, Briggs, we finally know exactly what happened 649 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.440 at the Reverie. We learned the powers of characters that we've been waiting for. 650 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.800 We just in the latest episode, we got a character that could end 651 00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:29.960 up being Oh, I can't even tell you, I can't even don't please 652 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.480 please please use down. We're gonna read it on kick Chat kick idea. 653 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.360 Um, I was I gonna say, I'm a little bit disappointed in not 654 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:40.599 disappointed in Mashell. I love Mashell, I really really do, and I'm 655 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.079 enjoying watching it. But I don't know if if it's because I already read 656 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.039 it like twice that I already know the jokes are coming before they come that 657 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.920 I'm not finding it as funny, or if it's just the direction and execution, 658 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.239 or just like the style of comedy doesn't work as well in anime form 659 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.960 as it does in like manga form. I don't know what it is, 660 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.480 but I'm not I'm not it's not getting the hahas out of me. Well, 661 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.559 I think a lot of it is that you know the punchlines I do. 662 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.840 I feel like I have a bad memory, but I've read the first 663 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:15.000 twenty chapters twice, so like the first season, I know like the back 664 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.679 of my hand. Yeah, so I think that could be an issue. 665 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.599 But why don't you wait? Which? Wait? Which? Which one? 666 00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:24.280 Are you? Which one are you talking about? Mashall. I just I'm 667 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:29.239 a little disappointed, just because I feel like, I don't know, the 668 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:30.320 comedy's not hitting as hard as they did in the manga for me, And 669 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:32.360 I don't know if it's because of the adaptation or the fact I know the 670 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.079 jokes are coming. Mmm, So that initial shock factor's gone. Yeah, 671 00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.119 I can see by the way um Raf says we got to do one piece 672 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.440 version during the break. Yeah, so there's gonna be like a five week 673 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.159 break for one Piece now or what is getting some kind of eye surgery? 674 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.079 Yeah, he did lathic surgery. Yeah, so we do have to do 675 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.920 um I one presurgion. But the problem was that I didn't know when to 676 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.360 call it. Okay, we gotta do an episode now because there's just like 677 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.000 tap if the child has been crazy and brings usn't caught up, so I 678 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.039 can't like actually advise with him in terms of when we should do it. 679 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:07.800 But now that there's a break, we do got to do a one piece 680 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:13.280 version episode and get caught up and then talking about about because it's been and 681 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.360 you guys, if you ever want to start over again. Freya is like 682 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:21.840 she's like, I'm I'm taking notes now justink happens. She's like, I'm 683 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.159 gonna starting because I was like She's like, I'm scared that they're gonna cooise 684 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.880 me and I'm not gonna know answers. We should get a sponsor. It's 685 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:36.599 like One Piece Virgin season two broad you by stream labs, stream Labs. 686 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:44.480 Let's let's steal some steal But no, honestly, I think it would be 687 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.960 uh. I think that would also be fun to kind of relive glory days 688 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:54.079 of the One Piece Virgin. Approach your people at Kick and be like, 689 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.239 Yo, you guys want to you guys want to do an exclusive kick deal 690 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:05.039 for podcast One Piece Virgin Season two. Pay us some money. I could 691 00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:10.480 try front page that ship, send them analytics because one Piece version has some 692 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.000 decent analytics on Spotify still gets used despite we don't do it, And if 693 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.440 you were to look at the old people ask about the one police version every 694 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.679 single day, Like I feel like every time breaks his live. So even 695 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.960 even though I was never on the One Piece Virgin, people will like come 696 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.599 to me and be like, hey, you're on the Rank Cafe. Now 697 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.599 do you know when One Piece Virgin is going to come back? Like I 698 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.400 get people in my chat asking that I'm sure, Like it's on like comments 699 00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:37.400 the comment section on the Rank Cafe YouTube channel, like it's people love the 700 00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.199 One Piece of Virgin. Six hours ago, Lord Lufy fifty six on Twitter 701 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:45.000 tweeted at me, you're all going to do One Piece Virgion next week. 702 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.440 The longa is going on break for a month, so it's good. It's 703 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.800 a good time. It's a good time. No, we will, we 704 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.440 will do it, And yeah, The thing is when we did the One 705 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.719 Piece Vergeon, we were like, when we will start catching up, we 706 00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.280 will do like twenty thirty chapters covered in one episode. Right, So yeah, 707 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:01.840 it was a lot. It's hard to say then, Oh, should 708 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:05.719 we do an episode for two every two chapters, every two chapters, every 709 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.480 five, every ten. But if we did a whole second season that would 710 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:15.559 be more content and ye or what we could maybe more people in our web 711 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:23.280 of web of one piece culting. Yeah, um, well, they're gonna 712 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:28.719 say, I feel like it was during the pandemic. Also, we're live 713 00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.920 on kick right now? Are we really the title of Diablo? I didn't 714 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.639 even realize. Why are we live? I didn't even know it? So 715 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.960 funny? Oh, conference were breaking the laws? Guys, it just fucking 716 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:45.559 does it? Oh, we are breaking the law? We're breaking That was 717 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.079 an accident, Twitch genuinely an accident. Yeah, I'm sure Twitch cares about 718 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.159 accidents. Yeah, I don't think they don't. We would watch every episode, 719 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:59.079 every chapter, so what I was thinking of doing the content in my 720 00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:04.000 mouth rather than that. We already review every chapter on the anime Opper channel. 721 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.159 Right, so like goes and does like a whole video on every chapter, 722 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:07.280 so it's like, yeah, what do we do? We just then 723 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.079 rehash what he said in the whole episode. I feel like it wouldn't be 724 00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.199 as as good as as it was when we were doing like an entire arc. 725 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.599 I also prefer to talk about things more broadly based on like a larger 726 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.559 amount of content than like two chapters or one chapter. It's like, and 727 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:25.920 you know, there's always all these silhouettes that old Up puts in. There's 728 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.159 and then we're like the whole episode is like do you think this silhouette looks 729 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.400 like does it look like Shank? It doesn't look like n n L? 730 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:38.920 Yeah? Yeah, Um. I do think a good way to go about 731 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.840 the one piece of Urging season two it's like get content creators that are reading 732 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.119 Slash watching it, and like we don't need to cover every single arc with 733 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:52.400 them. But for example, like we could get because where is Freya in 734 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.880 in one piece? She's already like a little bit like in the forties, 735 00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.639 I believe, so like we could cover the next arc or like Alabasca for 736 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.960 episode. Yeah, like we could cover the Alabasa saga with their one nice 737 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.079 like long episode and go into details about that, like we don't need to 738 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.760 start from the beginning because you finally remember ratch. Well, we could do 739 00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:14.119 like the first one hundred chaps. There's like the East Blue saga, like 740 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.199 the whole thing. Yeah, I thought the vibe that she didn't remember the 741 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:21.159 details about the first four you like perfect, like very well, right, 742 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.800 because yeah, she was kind of taking them like piece by piece and like 743 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:30.400 we had literally just gotten to the end of Baratier when we were talking U, 744 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:36.159 So it hasn't even done our long there. Yeah, so she's just 745 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.159 getting to our long part kind of thing, like about to move into that, 746 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.039 and I genuinely think that that's going to be the real gripper for her. 747 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.960 We could do, we could do, we could do an episode on 748 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.920 our long part. Then I'm down for the yeah, and cover everything until 749 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.840 that as well, like briefly, briefly, Yeah, we can talk about 750 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.920 it briefly. Absolutely. Affliction says, when is Annell coming back? Didn't 751 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.320 you watch see the latest chapter? Bro? He's the third do Flamingo brother 752 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:05.800 like it was also people people were asking about one piece DND Marines. We 753 00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:12.400 are starting in forty five minutes. The forty five minutes on Rustages channel. 754 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.119 Let's go so does rustage. Do you see the dungeon Master for Marines and 755 00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.039 and the Esakai. Yes, and he still has time to do other stuff 756 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:28.559 in life. Yeah, he's just a busy dude. Yeah, very very 757 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.239 because I feel like that would be a lot of work man, even for 758 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.599 one just do one. Yeah, well we don't do it every week. 759 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.400 We do it every other week, so he has it's basically a podcast a 760 00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.239 week that he does. Yeah, so he's he's able to session plan for 761 00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:45.559 one one campaign per week, which session plan, Like, I feel like 762 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.360 there's a lot that goes into session planning. So yeah, I've never done 763 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:52.039 it, but I just get the feeling that it would be so there. 764 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.239 There there is, although I feel like with our group and might make it 765 00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.079 easier because we're so unproductive. We don't we we we are not meta gaming. 766 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.920 We're not flying through his storyline or like through things. We waste like 767 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.079 forty five minutes fucking doing bullshit, right, So he could have stuff planned 768 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:14.519 for one week that will last three weeks, three weeks, three weeks a 769 00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:20.400 month, I have, we take so much time to progress through things. 770 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:22.840 But at the same time, like I also just got noticed from like notes 771 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.159 from my d and they're like, you guys are actually going through this a 772 00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.239 little bit faster than I anticipated, And I'm like, oh shit, we're 773 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:37.880 doing something right for once. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Dutchess and dragons 774 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.000 sounds fun. Now it is a lot of fun. Well, see, 775 00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.920 I might start following the Marines and see how that goes, because I'm interested 776 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.400 in how the mechanics and and stuff like, I just know generally what it 777 00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.440 is. I never played it or really witnessed it, so I do. 778 00:51:52.599 --> 00:52:00.760 I'm curious to learn three weeks of a month and a half because we routed 779 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.920 every other week, it actually makes sense. Okay, three episodes per month 780 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.159 ve Yeah, okay, even though that's a weird TNS too, But I 781 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:13.800 was just trying to say, like he could plan for one week of like 782 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.559 one session and then it like we take three sessions to go through that material. 783 00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:21.480 I would very much think that's like true. And then three sessions is 784 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.039 a month and a half, yeah, because it's because that specific campaign runs 785 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:29.159 every other week. Yes, exactly, sounds good. And is this posted 786 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:34.719 on YouTube too? Yes? It actually gets like decent views. Bro watching 787 00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:40.239 watching, Like all of you guys literally just look like babies from episode one 788 00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.559 is insane. Like I remember, Rookie looks so different. It's hilarious. 789 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:50.519 Rookie looks incredibly different now the glow up is real. The oh my goodness, 790 00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:54.079 I love them so much. One Piece D and D finale got ninety 791 00:52:54.119 --> 00:53:04.920 thousand views. That was that was in Absolutely it's on Rustage two US no 792 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:13.760 welcome in So Rustage has actually the consistency to post all of them on YouTube. 793 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:22.159 M Yeah, imagine imagine us. Are you Are you a brother or 794 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.239 are you a bitch? I'm a bitch, bro, Just don't be a 795 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.719 bit. Bro, be your brother. I've I've uploaded on my channel for 796 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:36.760 fifteen days straight. Okay, proud of you. Just it's it's it's it's 797 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:38.360 hard to find a motivation when you get no views. And it's the same 798 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:43.880 thing with rand Cafe. We took a year off because we were Spotify exclusive 799 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:46.000 and then coming back to like two thousand and three thousand views. It's like, 800 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.599 it's hard. Is it really? Is it really worth it? When 801 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:52.000 I'm trying like it is because you got to get it back into it. 802 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.320 You know, I'm getting back into the algorithm is worth it. But it's 803 00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.280 just it doesn't feel like it in the moment in the long run probably, 804 00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.920 but like I'm trying to upload daily on my dube channel, trying to stream 805 00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:07.000 daily as well, Like I feel like I don't have enough time for anything. 806 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:08.760 No, I hear that. I hear that. I'm just trying to 807 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:13.679 get some like tiktoks and shorts edited and like that can take up a lot 808 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:19.000 of time. And like sometimes I have like sometimes I feel like I've got 809 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:21.800 a bunch of stuff in my arsenal and then it's like, well, now 810 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.039 I gotta wait for these things to get uh Now I gotta wait for these 811 00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.360 things to get uploaded or wait for them to get like edited, so that 812 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.440 way I can't upload them. And like some some stuff I can get away 813 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.880 with doing unedited, but other stuff, it's like, no, I want 814 00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:37.800 to have like little like little things on here that I just you know, 815 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.840 I I I don't edit myself. Unfortunately, you gotta turn it into a 816 00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.840 well oiled machine truck. It's tough. I struggled for so long trying to 817 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:47.440 do it, but I'm finally on a fit. I had to put in 818 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.480 a fucking I had to put in stakes. You gotta put in stakes but 819 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:54.159 you were doing, uh, you were doing you were doing pushups? Right, 820 00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.480 I have to do a thousand push ups if I'm miss an upload. 821 00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.840 Holy shit, dude, I I'm scared. I'm genuinely scared about doing a 822 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:05.000 thousands up. That is scary. I think my body will fall apart. 823 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.960 So genuinely, I made the promise one on on stream. I haven't clipped 824 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.039 or whatever. It's like it forces me to upload daily because I am not 825 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.119 enough of a chat to do a thousand push ups. Yeah, I think 826 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:21.119 training good. A good motivator for you would be you have to say live 827 00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.639 on stream something that I dictate to you. But people don't know that I'm 828 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:28.480 dictating to you and you they think you're just saying it of your own free 829 00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.880 will. I think that will be a good motivator for you. I think 830 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:36.519 that's just horrifying and I genuinely cringe at the thought of it. Well either, 831 00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.719 yeah, no, I mean like, and here's the thing is, 832 00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.360 like the uploading isn't the problem because like I've been able to do that when 833 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.880 I was when I had like I think I had about like a ten eleven 834 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.480 clips like sent my way because I I what I do is I make folders 835 00:55:53.559 --> 00:56:00.239 for them and then I send them off to editors, um and you know, 836 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.039 when they were getting back to me like on time and everything like that, 837 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.320 it was nice and easy. And then i lost contact for a little 838 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:12.960 bit. And then now I'm like waiting for like another I think like three 839 00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.920 at the moment, Like I tried to make it like a little bit lighter 840 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.280 of a load than you know, ten eleven at once, and so now 841 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.320 I'm like, oh, well, now I got a waiting game. Because 842 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.239 when I was uploading daily, like some of them were entering into the algorithm 843 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:30.599 at least a little bit, and I was seeing some at least on YouTube 844 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.800 shorts, I was seeing I was seeing more viewership on YouTube shorts than I 845 00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:38.639 was on TikTok. TikTok was averaging like maybe two to three hundred, and 846 00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.639 then some of them, for whatever reason, would get like forty five, 847 00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.320 and I'm like, why the fuck did that get? Just like this one 848 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:47.320 didn't make it in But like I'm like and like part of me just wants 849 00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:52.280 to delete that one and reupload it and see if that changes anything. And 850 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:58.199 then YouTube and for YouTube shorts, I would get some that would hit you 851 00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:00.920 know, some of the hundreds, and then a couple of them would creep 852 00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.320 into like, you know, one point two K, one point three K. 853 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:08.000 One of the absolute dumbest ones that I made was like instantly a two 854 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.480 out of ten. I was like, how the fuck did this have? 855 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.840 Like this? This video of it makes no sense. But that's the thing 856 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.119 is like, and I realized, I'm like, Okay, the way to 857 00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:21.519 make it into the algorithm is to just upload all of them, and the 858 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.840 one that you least expect is going to do well is going to do the 859 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:27.199 best. That was the most annoying thing with YouTube for me back in the 860 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.599 day when I actually cared. You put a ton of effort into content, 861 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.559 ton of effort, tons of talk. I'm talking like, you wrote it 862 00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.159 like a three thousand words script, you edited it, you voice acted whatever, 863 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:38.519 you did all the things. It took you like ten twelve hours to 864 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:44.519 make, and then it would do like nothing. And then one video that 865 00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.239 like literally you just fucking looked on Wikipedia, got ten facts and threw a 866 00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.159 nice thumbnail together, and like you threw it together and together them the next 867 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.239 day and it's like, oh, this one's gonna get three hundred thousand views. 868 00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.360 It's like, what the fuck, Yeah, it makes it makes no 869 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:05.000 sense, but like it's it. I feel like for me, that's a 870 00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:09.440 motivator to just like clip more because right now I'm not doing anything extra, 871 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.760 uh just because of the way that my life is set up right now, 872 00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:15.480 it's a little bit hard for me to do like the extra scripted stuff. 873 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:22.519 But um, you know, it's trying to be trying to be as villagilant 874 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:28.159 as I can about going over my own VODs and clipping extra stuff and using 875 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.840 those things, even if there's they're tiny moments like just grabbing little things that 876 00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.559 are like kind of funny or like, you know, something that's you know, 877 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:38.639 chat being stupid or whatever the case may be, just grabbing little moments 878 00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:44.760 from stream that I can then download, send you an editor and have those 879 00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.840 uploads. What I've been doing is I have replay buffer on my stream. 880 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:50.719 I don't know if you have that, I could like try you how to 881 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.119 do it, and it just like it is, you just click the button 882 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.320 for replay buffer, butter off the start of the stream, and then when 883 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.599 you at any point it's something funny happens, you can just click it and 884 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.320 it will save the last three minutes of your VOD and it ought to batically 885 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.280 downloads it and puts into like a folder on your computer. That's nice, 886 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.559 it's sick. So what I've been doing is like I'm watching anime on Kikaha 887 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.719 with a funny moment this click clip it, or like I'm playing a game 888 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:15.039 popped off clip it, and like I've been doing daily actual uploads on YouTube, 889 00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:17.519 but I've also seen throwing some shorts in there every now and then. 890 00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:22.000 Yeah, like it's just like an extra like like I've only uploaded three shorts 891 00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.159 and like the last week or so, right, and just like an extra 892 00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:29.599 uploads. But it's still like an extra three four five, almost six thousand 893 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:31.119 views off. Right. You don't make any money off of it. It's 894 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:34.320 like you don't make any money off it, but it helps get you into 895 00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.480 the album algorithm. It helps bring people to your channel. Yeah, in 896 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:39.559 theory, in theory, but at the end of the day, like if 897 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.119 you were to get like one of them pops off, it could help kick 898 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:45.480 start your channel again. Also, if it's a really funny moment or if 899 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.280 it's like all you need to do is get a couple of people to come 900 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.400 to your Twitch channel and then they might become subs, right exactly. You 901 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.519 never know. That's the thing is it's all a long game. When it's 902 00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.719 like short form content is a long game, you gotta be consistent though. 903 00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:00.360 It's tough. Good luck to all of us. Um I think it's not 904 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:05.000 to call it an episode. Thank you guys. We will be organizing of 905 01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.880 talking about this stuff. Yeah, we will be talking about doing the one 906 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:13.360 piece of Virgin sometime next week. We just gotta figure out then and stuff. 907 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:17.639 Hopefully by then the air will be fresher. Hopefully. It's been a 908 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.159 mess over here. I know if you're like in Europe and stuff, you're 909 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:23.079 probably like, what are they talking about? But yeah, it's been a 910 01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:29.840 mess North America, especially to the East Coast area. It's like there were 911 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.920 a lot of people that were just not getting any that there's like no clean 912 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.519 air. What's up, anamac I want to ask you one quick question before 913 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.039 we go. Are you still uploading YouTube shorts? Yes at all? Do 914 01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:44.519 they make more money now or no? They don't? Five cents per thousand 915 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.559 views? Five per thousand views I've had. I had one that had a 916 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.079 little bit more, but still not much more. So I was wondering like, 917 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.679 since you get a lot more views if it's if it's anything, no, 918 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:58.199 not really, that means like a million views, fifty bucks. Basically, 919 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.199 yeah, that's that is show. That is that is such a rep 920 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:07.239 that's the beauty of short form content. Baby. Okay, guys, see 921 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.639 you next week and until next time, Ces based Cowboys, Baby,