WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.839 day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think we are. 3 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.919 Get off our show. Idiots. The kids are playing to turn at 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.960 the countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother Goal Play 5 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:24.000 Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:46.280 Now? Here's Nick Coffee. It hadn't crossed my mind until I walked in 8 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:50.600 here to Studio B at our phenomenal four Street Live setup here at iHeart Louisville. 9 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:53.920 As soon as I walked in, it felt like, you know what, 10 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:58.079 that we can went by too fast. I've had a lot of vacation 11 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.560 days and trips, and of course we aren't that far removed from the fourth 12 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.959 of July holiday where we had a nice, a nice five day weekend, 13 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.200 which was great. But yeah, it feels like this weekend went by super 14 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.599 fast. But that's okay because that means summer is going by fast. That 15 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.760 means we're, you know, eventually going to get out of this awful, 16 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.599 awful, disgusting weather. And football season will be here, So you know, 17 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.760 weekend's going by fast as usually never a good thing. But I'm happy 18 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.280 to be here today and hopefully you guys are happy to be here with us. 19 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:27.400 It is Coffee and Company. If you didn't know, now you do. 20 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.079 My name is Nick Coffee, the company man. Mister John all in 21 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:34.640 alongside today as we get another week started. And I guess John, I'll 22 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.879 just start with a question. Do you think our listenership has dropped substantially because 23 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:44.040 that video game came out? You know, if that many people have decided 24 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.040 to take the day off of work, or maybe even the week off of 25 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.480 work, It wouldn't surprise me if those who are playing the new college football 26 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:55.680 video game have tuned every other aspect of their life, including maybe even Coffee 27 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.239 and Company, if they dare do so. If one thing that makes me 28 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:01.359 feel a little bit better about the intial threat of losing listeners to a video 29 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:06.239 game is that nobody could claim that we cater to the video game crowd, 30 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.680 right like, there's nobody that could claim that, you know, we're not 31 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.919 here, we're not breaking down the newest call of duty every year exactly. 32 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.759 So you know that makes me feel as if if you've been a regular listener, 33 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.800 you may not be someone that is just quick to, you know, 34 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:23.680 forget about all of your real life responsibilities and just you know, turn into 35 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:29.960 a gamer that doesn't do anything else. But apparently it's only out today if 36 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:34.599 you are if you purchased some kind of like premium version of it. So 37 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.719 like I think the twenty second a week from today is when is when, 38 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.280 Like I guess that the plebes get it. But if you bought a certain 39 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:45.080 I don't know, like a And this is how removed I am from the 40 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:46.560 gaming world. I mean, I was never really a big gamer, but 41 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.840 you know, I used to have a system. PlayStation two, as we've 42 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.199 discussed, was the last one that I had, And I didn't know that 43 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.000 you. I mean, it makes total sense, but I've just you know, 44 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.919 I've never outside of that of mind. I didn't know you download games 45 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:00.360 now, like you don't go by them. You pay for them and you 46 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.759 download them, which makes total sense. But I didn't know that. So 47 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.080 I'm basing all the new consoles. You can't, I mean, they do 48 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.680 have physical copy versions of games, but you can buy pretty much anything online 49 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:14.360 now. Yeah, I mean I I I'm sitting here thinking, well, 50 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.240 you know what, there's gonna be a lot of coverage today because they're going 51 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:22.360 to be showing people lined up outside of game Stop and wherever. And then 52 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.800 I'm like, actually, no, that's that that that that's not pass Yeah, 53 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:30.560 that's not I mean, are those stores still even I think Working Stop. 54 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.960 I don't think they're out of business, but I think they've shut down 55 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.840 a lot of stores. Yeah. That. I mean, if you don't 56 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:42.439 need an actual physical copy to have these games, I feel like the only 57 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.520 purpose those stores would have would be to like resell and do like the you 58 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.400 know, because some people still play the old Nintendo games, which you know, 59 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.719 that's more my style. But yeah, it says here that if you 60 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:58.360 pre ordered the Deluxe edition of EA Sports College Football twenty five, and you 61 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:02.080 bought the MVP bun with Madden twenty five, or you have an EA Play 62 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:06.639 Early Access, you'll be able to play the game today. The standard version 63 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:12.719 of the game will be available to play on Friday to nineteenth, So I 64 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.120 guess some people still have to wait. And again I try not to, 65 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:19.199 you know, act as if people who play video games are you know, 66 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:23.639 there's anything wrong with that everybody's got their own vice and things that they're interested 67 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.079 in. If you're a big gamer, then shout out to you. But 68 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:31.199 I just what I can't relate to and understand is that I don't know if 69 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:35.759 people realize this isn't real and to be fair to EA Sports, and I 70 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:41.120 guess just the advanced technology that we have now, some of the things within 71 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:44.800 this game like make it to where you could get lost and not realize you're 72 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:46.759 on a controller in front of your TV, you might think it's real life. 73 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:50.680 Our buddy Chris Venini, who joins us on the show from time to 74 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:55.519 time talking college football, he I feel like has been the leader when it 75 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:59.079 comes to coverage of this game returning. I mean, he did a tour 76 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.319 at EA Sports, and of course he had early access to it, but 77 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.199 he shared the road his road to Glory experience. Which road to Glory. 78 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:10.279 I guess it is like a feature where you you know, I guess it's 79 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.480 like the is that even further than like you know they used They had that 80 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.959 on the most recent iteration, which again was ten years ago. But you 81 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.519 take on the role of one player. Okay, you start off in the 82 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.959 high school ranks. Gotch you move up from there. Well, he shared 83 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:30.720 this earlier that the Road to Glory feature now has a lot of different elements 84 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.959 to it to where you're not only you know, deciding which schools you're going 85 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.959 to consider and then make a commitment and all that stuff, but now like 86 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:43.199 that, and maybe this existed previously, but he accepted a party invite from 87 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.040 a teammate and the Road to Glory feature, and the coach found a photo 88 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:51.279 of him partying and it docked his trust points with his coach because of that, 89 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:56.360 and a classmate helped him cheat on a test and boosted his GPA, 90 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.319 but he got caught a week later. So like, you're going to be 91 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.199 tempted to make decisions like you really would in real life, and it could 92 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.399 potentially you know, you're taking a risk, right, are you're going to 93 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:08.000 get caught? Is it worth it? And again I'm just thinking, like 94 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:13.199 this isn't like this is insane. And then there is somebody who I guess 95 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:17.279 there are certain creators out there that do get early access even like before, 96 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:21.759 like they probably actually get a physical copy or some way to download it because 97 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:27.879 EA Sports wants them to promote to their millions of followers. Like gamers clearly 98 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.839 have a big following on the internet. Watching people play games is a big 99 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.720 deal, and I don't I never thought that would be the case. But 100 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:38.680 either way, there was somebody who got the early access and did like a 101 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.040 journey or what. I don't know. I don't know what the features are. 102 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.360 But they played out Louisville like they simulated Louisville season. And you know, 103 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.839 Tyler Shuck are very injury prone quarterback transfer he got hurt in the first 104 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.199 game and was out for the rest of the year. And I saw people 105 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:56.279 online acting as if that really happened, is if that was really Like it's 106 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:00.439 a video game. Everybody like it's not real. I mean people who I 107 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:03.639 know and like, like they're sharing it as if like, coh, what 108 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:05.720 are we gonna do? We lost our quarterback this year. I'm like, 109 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:11.399 it's a freaking video game. It's not real. Now. It being so 110 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:15.519 seemingly real actually does make it kind of cool. But can't we find the 111 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:17.639 you know, can't we? I mean I think it's pretty clear like this 112 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:20.160 is like, you know, it's it's fun in games. It's so realistic, 113 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:23.839 which makes it, you know, even more enjoyable. But this will 114 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:29.279 have nothing to do with what actually takes place on the football fields across the 115 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.720 country when college football starts before too long. So happy, you know, 116 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:38.519 Release day to everybody out there who got the early access. 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Sign up today Refreshing Awards dot com or you can download the 134 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:41.679 app. All right, So we got the email yesterday from the brass here 135 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:46.559 at iHeartMedia are our leaders, and you know it's to be expected, but 136 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.000 it also makes me kind of like, you know, the Trump stuff, 137 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.120 like I want to talk about it, but I don't know, like what's 138 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.080 the bar because you know, essentially everybody was just told old within the company. 139 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.600 From what I can gather is that, you know, just be you 140 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.919 know, emotions are high. Everybody, you know, be careful. Don't 141 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:09.720 let the emotions of what happened, regardless of which way you feel about it, 142 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:13.120 you know, don't let it. Don't let it have you say in 143 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:16.879 something that you might regret saying something the company could not defend you for saying. 144 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.159 If you know what, if you know what I mean, and to 145 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:22.240 be honest with you, and I'm being one thousand percent sincere, I don't 146 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:28.039 know if anybody on our platforms here at iHeart our family of stations that would 147 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.639 you know, even even I don't know if there's anybody that would say something 148 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.840 even in private, that would like be that would cause like such an uproar 149 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:37.960 just because that's just you know, that's the way. I mean again, 150 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.600 maybe I'm wrong, and I guess any you know, people can be offended 151 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:45.480 and try to cancel somebody for anything, but like we can talk about it 152 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.759 still, right, Like I actually think there's there's there's parts of this whole 153 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:54.320 situation that have nothing to do with politics that actually think are an interesting talking 154 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.519 point. But was it not another one of those moments where you sit there 155 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.600 and think, like is this real? I can't believe we're here. I 156 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.840 mean, like somebody shot at the former president of the United States who's now 157 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.360 attempting to be the president once again. Like those kind of things don't happen 158 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:11.759 very often, and it's getting of course, national coverage. It's the biggest 159 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.360 story on the planet. I'm not trying to act like people are saying it's 160 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.559 no big deal, but it is just kind of crazy that we are in 161 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:28.600 this era, especially with politics and the presidential situation, to where at the 162 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.720 end of the day, Are you really that surprised by anything anymore? Like, 163 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.279 is that fair to say? Yeah, that's fair and as surprising as 164 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.000 it was. I guess in the on, like, as soon as the 165 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.279 news broke that that is something that happened. He Trump gets shot at during 166 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.279 one of his rallies in Pennsylvania. I was over, I was down in 167 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.799 I guess it was Nolan Lake, somewhere down in one of the rivers down 168 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.639 in Kentucky Lakes and Kentucky hanging out with the in laws this weekend, and 169 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.080 somebody's got to do that exactly. Somebody came outside. We're all hanging out 170 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.519 on the deck, and soone's like, oh, Trump's just been shot, 171 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:01.279 and we're all like, are you joking? Because that's just just something. 172 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.080 If you say it, it's either you either hope you're you're dead serious about 173 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.159 because you don't joke about that kind of thing. This is kind of the 174 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.799 way you know, your brain works, I feel like, and we all 175 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:16.679 walk inside and you see moments ago and they're showing the replay live footage of 176 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.440 what happened at that rally in Pennsylvania, and it was very weird, and 177 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.519 you know from that moment on the amount of people we had that were with 178 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.799 us at the uh the location, tensions were high right there because we had 179 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.039 people who like Trump, people who disliked Trump, and it was just kind 180 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:41.320 of very uncomfortable being in that situation as that stuff is going on that I 181 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.279 hadn't even thought about that I was, you know, i'd heard about it. 182 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.639 We left my nephew's birthday party, and then uh, once I got 183 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.799 to uh meet some friends for dinner, I guess it had it had hit 184 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.480 the news and it had happened, and you know, kind of the aftermath. 185 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.080 And but yeah, if you if you are, I mean, because 186 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:05.320 clearly people have strong opinions about this election, both of the candidates, and 187 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.360 people have made it quite clear in less than forty eight hours or I guess 188 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.240 roughly forty eight hours that they have. People have strong opinions about what went 189 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.039 on Saturday. And I'll be honest with you, I don't know what to 190 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.159 believe when it comes to the to the guy to the kid who say kid, 191 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.120 but he's growing up. But you know the young guy who you know 192 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:28.440 is now dead, who tried to shoot Donald Trump, Like you see coverage 193 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.159 about this guy, his story, his political affiliation, and like, I'm 194 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.799 sure there are outlets that clearly catered to one side and they're gonna run with 195 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.559 it one way. The others are gonna run with it the exact opposite way. 196 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.559 And it's got me to the point where I really don't know what to 197 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.759 believe, And to be honest with you, I don't I don't really care. 198 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:48.720 I mean, he did something horrible that no one should ever do, 199 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.720 and he paid the ultimate price for it. He's dead, as you know. 200 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.519 That's that's what you should expect if you are somebody going through with what 201 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.519 he went through. But the things I wanted to discuss today are just, 202 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:05.759 you know again this, I think you can do this and it's not political. 203 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:11.799 There was a psychic who I've never really fully believed in psychics, you 204 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.759 know, I be honest with you, I've alway kind of felt like it's 205 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:18.519 nonsense. There was a psychic that four months ago was on some show talking 206 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.320 about the solar solar eclipse. Remember when the solar the solar eclipse was on 207 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.759 its way. It was a big story. Well this this psychic, and 208 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:28.360 I found me and I did a little internet slew thing. Today I found 209 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:33.639 the original video that was published on YouTube four months ago. This dude predicted 210 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:39.639 exactly what happened, like details and all. It's crazy. And also there 211 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:46.360 was something that that that Trump was highlighting on this graph, you know, 212 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.600 calling out something you know that you know he believes will help him in the 213 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.600 election. As far as basically just talking crap about Biden, which that's what 214 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.440 you do. I mean, I don't say that to be critical, that's 215 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.279 just that's part for the course in a presidential election. But he had to 216 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.679 move to show something, which if he didn't move, and he had he 217 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:09.000 not moved to like point to something on a board behind him, like the 218 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.279 shot probably would have hit him right in the head and killed him. Like 219 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.679 it's just some of that stuff's crazy. And then to see, you know, 220 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.080 the reaction from the country as far as like you know, fifty cent, 221 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.399 I don't know if you guys saw that he had a performance that night 222 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:28.120 and put Donald Trump's face on his Get Rich or Died Trying album cover, 223 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:35.360 Like it's just it's it's crazy, But Saturday, that's such a scary and 224 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.120 awful thing to where it's never gonna feel like, oh yeah, just another 225 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.440 day in America. That's not what I mean. But the level of like, 226 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.360 wow, can you believe that happened, you know, as awful as 227 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.279 it is, I kind of can. I'm not that shocked, So anyways, 228 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:52.840 I mean, if you think about it, that's one of the I 229 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:54.480 guess everybody's level of like crazy things that have happened, Like that's all. 230 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.320 It's all a matter of opinion from that one person. But if I don't 231 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:03.559 think it's crazy to say that somebody attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate who previously 232 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.440 was the president, Like, that's one of the to me, that's one 233 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.120 of the craziest things I could think of that's happened politically in my lifetime. 234 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.039 But yet again, the climate for where we are, the you know, 235 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:20.559 it's like it's like school shootings and just mass shootings where it's tragic and it's 236 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.159 never something that you're gonna hear and you know be like, oh, you 237 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.759 know whatever, like like it happens thirteen times, you know a day in 238 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:35.159 every state or something like that. But because something so something so awful has 239 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.879 happened enough times, like again, you're not that surprised. That's kind of 240 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.440 the way I am with this stuff. So anyways, we're not we trust 241 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:45.679 me, We're not going to spend the entire show talking about it. We're 242 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.639 probably not going to talk much about it at all. But it was a 243 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.039 humongous story and and you know, clearly there's there's a lot of thoughts on 244 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.720 it. All Right, some other things we'll get into today. The SEC 245 00:15:54.919 --> 00:16:00.279 Football media Day's got started today. Sanky. Mister Stanky's out there, you 246 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:07.840 know, doing stanky things, dismissing expansion, you know, acting as if 247 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.720 the SEC is still the you know, acting as if now geography matters, 248 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:17.159 right, like he's he's puffing his chest that they're they're the league that I 249 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.120 guess can still claim that they're all regionally, you know, in the same 250 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.159 area. Which are they though, Like I don't know about Texas and Oklahoma. 251 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.480 I don't think Southeast. In fact, I don't think Southeast when it 252 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.919 comes to Texas, A and M Missouri or Arkansas, to be honest with 253 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.960 you, But you know, Sankie, I'll give him this, He's not 254 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.600 you know, he's not. He's not over the top, right, he 255 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:38.879 didn't really show a whole lot of energy, and you know, he's pretty 256 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.480 even keeled as far as how he speaks, but he's such a powerful figure 257 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.000 within the world of college athletics that when he speaks and shares opinions and he's 258 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.000 asked about expansion, people want to hear what he has to say. And 259 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:53.200 he didn't say a whole lot today, But with expansion still being a talking 260 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.720 point, there's some stuff I wanted to get into with that, And I 261 00:16:56.759 --> 00:17:00.240 mean, I can't do it again because I you know, it wouldn't be 262 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.079 worth it, It'd be bad radio. I guess we do enough of that 263 00:17:03.119 --> 00:17:07.359 anyway, Who cares? Why not just do more? But I'm I'm so 264 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:12.519 triggered, so triggered by people continuing to talk about Big twelve expansion as if 265 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:17.440 like six teams from the ACC are going to the Big twelve. I mean, 266 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:19.400 it's it's the it. I mean, I guess it's because it's July. 267 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:25.079 And obviously the ACC's future does look, you know, not great, 268 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:29.559 and just based off the fact that they're locked into their gor until twenty thirty 269 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.319 four and two schools are suing the league. The league's counter is suing like 270 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.480 it's a mess, but that doesn't change the facts, and I do have 271 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.400 We'll get into it later. Because I don't want to if I just start 272 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.480 rolling with it now, just you know, probably run right through the first 273 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.640 two commercial breaks, because it just it's that kind of thing. It triggers 274 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.559 me. But there is something I want to add that I haven't brought up 275 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.960 yet that you know, it makes even more sense as to why this is 276 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.720 just a non story and people need to leave it alone. So we'll get 277 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.359 into that a little bit later on. Also, strength the schedule talk, 278 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.079 you want to do it, let's do it today, because Louisville and Kentucky 279 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:04.720 no longer playing on the first week of the season or the third week. 280 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.920 You know, we now play the last game of the season, and I 281 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.599 hate it, but you know, there's nothing we can do about it as 282 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:11.839 long as this game is played. Still, it'll be played in the last 283 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.319 game of the season. But it's made it to where it's it's really hard 284 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:19.880 to talk about the game until you get to like week up because you're gonna 285 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.400 you know, you know, you're gonna play eleven more game. You'rena play 286 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.640 eleven games before you get a chance to see your rival. So one of 287 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.559 the things we've always done, but we've definitely turned it up a notch since 288 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:32.960 this game got moved at the end of the season, as we always because 289 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.720 because we can't prove it right, we can't. We can't actually see a 290 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:40.119 result as far as who's better until we get to the end of November. 291 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:42.960 So until then we just talk about strength to schedule. They ain't played nobody. 292 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.359 Kentucky's played a couple of MAC teams this year. They got Vandy and 293 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:51.200 they got the worst SEC West team on their schedule, and of course Louisville 294 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.319 schedule last year. It's all Kentucky fans talked about because it wasn't strong by 295 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:59.640 any means. But there's a pro football focus breakdown of strength to schedule that 296 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:06.440 I think we'll have some surprising results as far as who's schedules terrible, Who's 297 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:11.200 schedule's pretty tough. So we'll get into that and we'll have some fun today. 298 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:17.200 There's another list out there that everybody gets worked up about ESPN. I 299 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.519 mean, they're getting into the weeds with a lot of the other folks out 300 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.119 there on the internet as far as list season, right, just throw a 301 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.960 list out there, get people engaging with the content because everybody's got strong opinions 302 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.799 about certain things. But ESPN, I guess is now giving us their top 303 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:37.519 one hundred athletes since the year two thousand and today they released seventy five through 304 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:38.880 one hundred. I don't know when they're going to unveil the rest of them, 305 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:44.920 but you know, certainly some strong reactions to how this was put together 306 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.519 and where certain athletes ended up. Also, we're not that far away from 307 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.440 starting to talk about some college football wagering. I've got some good takeaways from 308 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.119 a great breakdown that I read earlier from the one of the only mister Brad 309 00:19:56.160 --> 00:20:00.480 Powers, who's a great college football handicapper. But he's found some teams that 310 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:07.680 he has favored in eleven games this season, about ten teams or so. 311 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:11.880 He's also found team. He's also found four teams that he has favored in 312 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.440 every single game this year. And the reason I want to bring this up 313 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.799 is because it'll give you a chance to potentially look at the win totals for 314 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.359 some of these teams and say, hey, they're gonna be favored in eleven 315 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:23.960 of twelve games and their win total six and a half. We got a 316 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.519 hammer the over. I mean, you never know, but Brad Powers is 317 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.440 somebody that I do trust when it comes to that kind of stuff, So 318 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.160 we can get into that. He also has teams that are favored in zero 319 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.039 games this upcoming season, which means you probably would want to fade, so 320 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:42.160 we'll get into that. Also on the NBA Summer League, again, I 321 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.799 haven't watched a whole lot of it, but I did see what Reaed Shepherd's 322 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.559 doing, and he's gonna be a Rookie of the year. I mean, 323 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:52.359 summer league is not I mean more often than not, you should just ignore 324 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.880 if you see something good or bad from a guy in the summer league because 325 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.920 it really doesn't translate. But I watched Reed Shepherd at Kentucky and I've seen 326 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:03.119 him in the sum Like he's gonna be really, really, really good in 327 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.559 the NBA. I would not be shocked if maybe he isn't the best player 328 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.160 to come out of this draft, like ten years from now, but right 329 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:11.759 away, like I think he's gonna be ready to play. These two dudes 330 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:17.599 for France that are the first and second pick, they may be really productive 331 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.000 down the line. But you got to keep in mind even in the league 332 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.759 they played in prior to the NBA, I mean, it was all based 333 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.599 off potential. They weren't exactly lighting up the stat sheet or anything like that. 334 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.200 And I think Reed Shepherd, I don't know if he's going to average 335 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.640 twenty two and a half points a game like he has in his first two 336 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.759 Summer League games, but man, he's gonna be special. And it's weird 337 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:40.279 because I like him a lot, and I I, you know, it 338 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:41.920 makes me feel gross, which I shouldn't feel that way. He's I mean, 339 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.920 he's he's not. I mean, it's not as if like he ripped 340 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.839 my heart out as a Kentucky player. He played one season and happened to 341 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.039 be one of the worst seasons of all time for Louisville basketball. He didn't 342 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.240 make a deep tournament run, so it really isn't like I'm like, he 343 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.640 didn't experience anything crazy as far as success to Kentucky that would make him, 344 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.559 you know, be a thorn in my side or something like that. So 345 00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:04.839 I don't know, this is you know, it's weird. It's unusual to 346 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.359 have, you know, to like a Kentucky player to that level. I 347 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:11.599 mean, I don't root against those guys been to get to the NBA because 348 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.880 I really don't care. But like, I'm kind of I gotta say it. 349 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.240 I'm kind of dancing around it, John, But I think I'm a 350 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.400 big Read Shepherd fan, Like I think I think I might need a jersey 351 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.960 or something that made me crossing the line. But this, this is unfamiliar 352 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:26.119 territory. I don't know how to I don't I don't know what to do. 353 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:30.400 You're just a cat, yeah, I mean no, I'm a rock 354 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:34.079 people, I'm a Rocket. It's all yeah, true, that's what it 355 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:37.720 is. I you know, Read Shepherd's always been five and I've always've actually 356 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:40.240 always been a diehard Rockets fan. So now you know, I've got no 357 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:44.279 choice but to, you know, cheer for for Reed Shepherd. So anyways, 358 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:45.400 we're loaded the rest of the way. Hopefully you guys will stick with 359 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.079 us. Some uvel recruiting updates too. I don't want to, you know, 360 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.920 act as if that's going to dominate the show, but some good news 361 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:56.160 for Jeff Brahma over the weekend, and a new local recruit here in basketball 362 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.000 that has picked up an offer from Pat Kelsey. So stick with us. 363 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.440 We're gonna take you up till six o'clock. Right here, it's coffee and 364 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:06.759 company, and we are fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety so UVEL 365 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.559 has just announced that when they go to Charlotte next week for the ACC football 366 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.799 Kickoff, which is the media day, they're going to be taking Tyler Shuck, 367 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:19.960 Ashton Jilotti, and Quincy Riley. No surprise that those will be the 368 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.119 three that are representing U of L. I mean, makes sense to take 369 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.640 your quarterback, especially when he's new to the league, and look in a 370 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:30.359 way, this is kind of a marketing thing for some of these players. 371 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.359 I mean, I don't know if they care. I mean, I think 372 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.519 they do, but it would never be a great look to say, Hey, 373 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:40.160 y'all really want to make a good impression with all the media members so 374 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.160 they vote for me for all conference. But I mean, it's natural to 375 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.279 want those kind of accomplishments. So I'm not really sure what we'll get from 376 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.799 next week's ACC kickoff. Usually media days are pretty underwhelming. But again, 377 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:56.400 the current drama and the i mean just the overall situation of the ACC could 378 00:23:56.480 --> 00:24:00.240 lead to something. But I feel like we've been saying that for a couple 379 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.240 of years now. But again, you've got your two top brands in the 380 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:07.240 league both suing the League. The league counter suing. It's just, you 381 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:10.279 know, it's been a mess. But hey, whatever happens, we'll, 382 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:12.039 you know, we'll certainly react to it. All right. It's coffee and 383 00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:15.960 company and we are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate 384 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.039 you hanging out with us. Don't forget you could take us with you wherever 385 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.839 you go. Listen live on the Ouhurt Radio app Listen live at seven ninety 386 00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:25.720 Louisville dot com. Also make sure you guys check out my friends over at 387 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:27.480 the Louisville Men's Clinic. Fellas, I'm telling you, there's a lot of 388 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:32.240 different services that they provide. They can help you in a major way, 389 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.079 and they've done it with me. The low testosterone issue that I had, 390 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.079 I was educated on and sort of how that happens and wasn't anything I did 391 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.480 wrong. It's just it's life. You know, you turn a certain age, 392 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.720 your natural testosterone starts to decrease, and it's not gonna it's gonna make 393 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.240 it's not gonna make you sick, it's not gonna You're not in danger, 394 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.359 but it could make it to where you know you are not having the same 395 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.799 workout you once, did you feel lethargic, You could be really tired. 396 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:04.680 You could start to just add some you know, some some fat because again, 397 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:10.640 testosterone. There's a lot of a lot of important things within your body 398 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.119 that needs testosterone. And when you don't have the level that you have that 399 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.240 you're supposed to have for your age, it can it can cause a lot 400 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.359 of symptoms. And again, these are symptoms that really just a lot of 401 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.640 folks out there, I believe, chalk it up to getting older. They 402 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:23.240 just assume, well, what are you gonna do, I'm getting older, 403 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.000 it's father time. Well it could be that, but it also could be 404 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.960 that just for whatever reason, your levels are way lower than they're supposed to 405 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.599 be. And that was me. And even if you feel like, hey, 406 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:34.759 you know, I'm okay, I'm tough, Well, why wouldn't you 407 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.200 want to feel better? I mean, if you get your levels check, 408 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.200 you tell them about some of your symptoms, you know, you may realize, 409 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:42.240 you know what, maybe they're right, maybe I do need a little 410 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.680 bit of a boost. So again, Louisvillman's clinic dot com is the website. 411 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.720 Give them a call. FABO two four four four thousand, all right, 412 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.519 so SEC kickoff, go. SEC media days going on right now. 413 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.400 They don't have a dumb name for theirs like the ACC does. And Sankie 414 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:03.920 was asked about the expansion, and I guess any interest if the league has 415 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.279 any. Obviously Texas Oklahoma are the newcomers this year, and this is a 416 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.119 small expansion compared to what the Big Ten is doing. They're adding quite a 417 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.400 few obviously the Big twelve they gobbled up quite a bit of the pack Pac 418 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.920 twelve before it completely died. And you know, the SEC could get anybody 419 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.680 they want, right Like, the SEC is the league that for the most 420 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.880 part, like there's not a team that would ever turn down an invitation of 421 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.319 that league unless you know you're in the Big Ten and you're you know, 422 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.319 you're already set. But I'll be honest with you, I think even there's 423 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.279 some Big Ten teams that if they got offered to go to the SEC and 424 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.359 they could do it, they might do it. So here's what he had 425 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:42.279 to say about expansion. He was asked about Florida State and Clemson specifically with 426 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:47.039 in the ACC, and I get why he asked the question, but he 427 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.400 was never going to answer that. He went on to say something along the 428 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.839 lines of, you know, he and the SEC meaning Sankie, they respect 429 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.039 the legal process and they're not actively recruiting. He reiterated the SEC's commitment to 430 00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:02.839 maintaining its current composition and standards of excellence. And that's why when it comes 431 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:04.400 to the SEC and even the Big Ten, to be honest with you, 432 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.720 Big ten's different because Big ten could really like the Big Ten is now, 433 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.720 they just don't have any presence in the South, and they don't have any 434 00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:18.559 presence in you know, I guess the Texas area, and I'm not really 435 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.319 sure they need it, right. They've got Oregon, Washington, and USC 436 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.920 and UCLA. Those are the four. Those are the four newcomers, right, 437 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.400 yes, and they're all coming this year, correct, Yes, So 438 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.759 you know they now can say that they go you know, from coast to 439 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.640 coast because they do, but they don't have anything in Florida or in the 440 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.279 South, and I'm not really sure they need it, right. Like if 441 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.480 you add two schools that are from you know, Florida, maybe it's Florida 442 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.119 State, maybe it's Miami, then maybe you go get Clemson. I mean, 443 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:48.839 that does give you a presence that you don't have and there could still 444 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.839 be some value there. And brands matter too, and those are schools that 445 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:57.759 absolutely will give you a brand bump and they would give you something that you 446 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:03.200 don't have, meaning a footprint in that region of the country. So I 447 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.839 still don't think these there's going to be any big expansion anytime soon from the 448 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.799 Big ten. But maybe I'm wrong. But the SEC I mean, who 449 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.519 could they like, what could they do that gives them, you know, 450 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:23.160 legitimate value in an expansion, meaning reaching way more than they're already reaching being. 451 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.279 I mean again, they could go to the they don't need to be 452 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:27.160 on the West coast, right, they don't need and who would they go 453 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.319 get? Right, Like anybody that was worth the damn? I feel like 454 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.039 from the western part of the country is it just got to the Big twelve 455 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.640 and really wasn't that valuable to begin with? Or I mean the Big ten 456 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.319 took the four schools that would actually give you something to LA schools, right, 457 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.640 I mean had Tewmungus in that market, and then the Pacific Northwest, 458 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.599 which you know Oregon and Washington, those are those schools have a big alumni 459 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.039 base and there's a lot of people in that region of the country. So 460 00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:56.759 I just I kind of feel like the SEC they would be expanding just to 461 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.319 expand, and I don't think there's any reason to do that. You have, 462 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.759 I mean, I think the only team left out there that would truly 463 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.000 make a massive impact ratings, I you know, him to say go ahead 464 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.519 Notre Dame. Yep, Notre Dame. And it's not necessarily just because obviously 465 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.279 they're in the North or like you know, more so the Midwest than any 466 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.039 other SEC team. But they're a program that they have fans who just watch 467 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:25.160 them wherever. Oh. Yeah, they've always been so exclusive to NBC that 468 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.160 they've always kind of been on their own little island. And if you can 469 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:30.799 snatch up that market, that's something that obviously hasn't been tapped into yet. 470 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.319 Yeah, and either of those two, I think with Notre Dame, they've 471 00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.440 been so consistent to not have any interest in joining any league, and you 472 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.400 know, the ACC is dumb enough to keep letting them, you know, 473 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.240 get away with it. They benefit from us in every other sport, but 474 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.640 they don't. They don't join the league in football now, they do play 475 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.680 a certain amount of ACC teams a year, which not to gas up Notre 476 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:55.960 Dame and their value. But that does help, I mean, it just 477 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:57.920 does. I mean that having Notre Dame on your schedule for Louisville like they 478 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:02.599 have this year and even last like that's you know, they're required to play 479 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.640 a certain amount of ACC teams and when you get Notre Dame, you usually 480 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:08.000 get a chance to get a big victory that you wouldn't get if it's replaced 481 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.200 by just about any other ACC team. But here's where I feel like Notre 482 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:17.359 Dame may at you know, they know that with the way they're currently independent, 483 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.559 they'll never be able to host a playoff game and if they make it, 484 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.079 because they don't have the ability to win a league title, so that 485 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.079 puts them at a disadvantage. Now, since this was even being discussed, 486 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:34.279 meaning before the playoff expansion was approved, everybody around Notre Dame claim that they're 487 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.200 totally fine with that. They're not going to sacrifice their independence to get a 488 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.759 home game. They could still get in at you know, the fifth spot 489 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519 or something like that, and if they do, you know, they'll not 490 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.599 be at home, but they didn't think it was worth it. So once 491 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.240 if we get five years or so into this level of the expanded playoff and 492 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.640 Notre Dame feels as if they truly have, like you know, been suffering 493 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.640 because of their independence, then maybe they would consider and any lead. I 494 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:04.440 mean they would, they could, they could pick where they want to go. 495 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.000 The Big Ten would would take them in a heartbeat, the SEC would 496 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.119 take them in a heart beat. I mean, any league would take them. 497 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.920 So, you know, I think you're right. I think that's the 498 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.039 one school that clearly would add value to any league just because they're so different. 499 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.759 And for those you know, two people have hit up the text line 500 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.440 saying nobody's going to expand, just to expand, and then mentioning that the 501 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.319 ACC did it with Texas, with with you know, SMU and in Texas 502 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.839 and also the two West Coast schools, which is Stanford and cal And I 503 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.720 mean, it's quite clear why they did that. It wasn't, you know, 504 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.119 just because they felt I mean, those schools didn't really do anything to 505 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.160 add value other than potentially just putting you well, I'll take I'll take a 506 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.599 step back because I've been corrected on this. The ACC is more valuable by 507 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.079 reaching the state of Texas and to the West Coast, but it's not like 508 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.680 a substantial thing to where like, oh wow, the worry of you know, 509 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.000 being so behind everybody else when it comes to granted rights deals. It's 510 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.240 okay now because we have you know, we have these three schools, but 511 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.480 it is at least something. However, the reason that Jim Phillips and his 512 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:16.319 crew whoever's working alongside him with the ACC, the reason that they added those 513 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.000 teams is because of the current ongoing fight that they have with Clemson and Florida 514 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.200 State. Because as much as everybody complains about the twenty thirty four and when 515 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.440 I say complain, I'm including myself, because it's crazy that you would agree 516 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:34.000 to a deal that there's no there's no re up for that long until twenty 517 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.759 thirty four. So the ESPN, of course they are you know that they 518 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:42.319 own the ACC network, that is the partner that the ACC has. Their 519 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.599 network is under the ESPN umbrella. If the league falls short of I think 520 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:53.160 it's fifteen members, then ESPN has a clause where they can they can renegotiate 521 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.880 with you and if you if you would have lost Clemson in Florida State and 522 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.920 somebody else because they were able to get out of the Grand of Rights deal 523 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:07.160 somehow, and you didn't have fifteen members minimum, ESPN would say, all 524 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.079 right, we're gonna pay you like substantially less now because as much as you've 525 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:15.440 been complaining about being left behind, you're actually not even worth what we're paying 526 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:21.920 you now because you've lost those two huge brands. So this may you're gonna 527 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:23.519 continue to see that happen. Right, if there's other guys, if people 528 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.759 find a way out, they're going to add schools to the league so they 529 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.200 never fall below fifteen, because if they do, that could actually be the 530 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.079 ultimate ending of the league. This may be a stupid question, but based 531 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.079 on that reasoning, why would they not have brought in Oregon State and Washington 532 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.640 State along as well, just for the you know, the sake of numbers. 533 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.160 Well, at that point, I mean, well, those two schools, 534 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.400 I don't I don't know. I was gonna say those two those two 535 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:52.920 schools I wouldn't even say have the value that Stanford Cal and even SMU have. 536 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.519 But at the time, they'd already like the way it played out with 537 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.119 the PAC twelve like you would have done two expands. Essentially, you would 538 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.960 have expanded to even though they're both packed twelve like they settled with those three 539 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.559 that they added, which all the way, I guess SMUs from coming from 540 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.239 the American Conference. But like you weren't, No, no conference is out 541 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.119 recruiting those two schools, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so they 542 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.360 were just left over. So then you like it would I mean, one, 543 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:21.559 you wouldn't get better, There would be no value in doing that, 544 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.719 and it would be a clear act of desperation just just just to have more. 545 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.679 It would be the ultimate expanding, just to expand. I mean, 546 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:31.079 it would give you, I guess, a little bit more security that if 547 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.920 a few teams do leave, you won't fall below that number. But the 548 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.480 PAC twelve didn't blow up until like a few months ago, Like you know 549 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.039 what I'm saying, Like those like it wasn't It wasn't because it wasn't a 550 00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:49.199 few months ago. But like, well, I'm trying to think of if 551 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:54.679 you were in real time, Stanford and Call as much as I don't really 552 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.679 know, they don't fit, they don't make a lot of sense, and 553 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.119 they've not been good at anything in a long time than you know, well, 554 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.719 they've been good in the non revenue sports, especially Stanford. But like 555 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.159 I guess I would say they give you more value because you're in California. 556 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.159 Stanford's in the Bay area. Cal is in Berkeley, which I'm not really 557 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.639 sure exactly where that is, but like, if you're going to at least 558 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.679 try to sell us that it's about reaching more people in an area you're not 559 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.039 in, I would go to California rather than rural Oregon State or Oregon in 560 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.559 Washington and nobody would want those schools. Like no, they are honestly two 561 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.239 of the least attractive former Power five schools out there. No events to them, 562 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.519 but like that's just like they don't do anything. They're I mean, 563 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.519 they're significantly smaller than the state schools that are there. All right, let's 564 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.199 get to a quick break. We'll come back here on the other side. 565 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.199 Wrap at the three o'clock hour, don't forget coming up around four o'clock. 566 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:51.039 We'll talk a little strength to schedule because I think Pro Football Focus they're analytics. 567 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:52.639 As far as strength to schedule for the upcoming season, I think the 568 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:57.320 results may surprise you as far as Kentucky strength to schedule, Louisville strength to 569 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.159 schedule, and we love to yell about that, right they played nobody. 570 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.440 That's just what you hear from from both sides pretty often throughout the season because 571 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.280 we got to wait till the end of the year to actually, you know, 572 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.840 settle it on the field. All right, it's coffee and company again, 573 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.519 we're fuel about Thorn's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I think 574 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.280 Nick Saban is going to be a pretty popular analyst for the SEC network. 575 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:23.159 He I mean, I don't think he was ever truly like a villain in 576 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.679 college football. I mean, he was just really good, and he was 577 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.920 pretty sure with the media often and didn't seem like the most pleasant guy. 578 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.880 But you know, I think he got a little bit more you know, 579 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.639 easy going as he got a little older in his career. But certainly one 580 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.079 of the best coaches to ever coach the game. In fact, I think 581 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.559 you can make the case that he is in fact the very best. But 582 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.440 that did not get him to be able to bypass the credential process at the 583 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.800 SEC kickoff. Apparently he tried to get in and they told him he couldn't 584 00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.960 because you know, he needed a credential. Oh it's a little different. 585 00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:07.079 I've never won a credential in my life, and as always for seventeen years 586 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.559 able to get in the SEC media day without a credential. I had to 587 00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.280 go back to the room today and get my credential to get in. So 588 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:20.280 that's one of the biggest changes I see. It's not like it used to 589 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:28.360 be. So can you imagine being the SEC staffer that had to tell Saban, 590 00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.679 hey, sorry, I know who you are, but you've got to 591 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.599 have a credential just like everybody else. I don't know why, but for 592 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.480 some reason, when I heard that SoundBite, I went back to thinking of 593 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.280 Rick Patino if he was in the situation. Do you think he would have 594 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.480 gone in without his credential anyway? Or would he have gone back for it 595 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.639 if he was doing media. Yeah, I think he would have. I'll 596 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.639 put it this way. I think he probably would not. I don't know 597 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.360 if he'd have gone back for it. He probably would have gotten some kind 598 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.119 of exception to where somebody gave him like a temporary one that just made him 599 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.480 compliant, if you know what I mean, Like he was he had some 600 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.440 type of identification badge on a lanyard that that you know, stated that with 601 00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.760 that, he's allowed to be wherever he wants to be. As far as 602 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.719 media coverage, I think the old Rick Patino would have would have not mean 603 00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.199 he would have, I mean he probably wouldn't mean you wouldn't even be able 604 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.039 to get to Rick to tell him he can't be here without the credential, 605 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.679 Like that's just how Rick's a larger than life kind of guy, and I 606 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.679 guess so is Saban. But yeah, I think he's going to be really, 607 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.639 really, really good as an analyst. And there's no doubt about it. 608 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.119 His opinion what I think, He'll give you honest opinions. He'll shoot 609 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.920 you straight. He's not going to, you know, just sit up there 610 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.159 and you know, spew nonsense that he doesn't believe, which unfortunately has kind 611 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.599 of become what a lot of analysts end up doing, it seems. But 612 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.079 uh, he's going to give you his honest opinion, and you feel like 613 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.719 his opinion is super valuable because again we're talking about somebody who is maybe the 614 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.280 best college football coach of all time. I did. I don't know why, 615 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:58.199 but I do like the thought of Texas being humbled. You know, 616 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.760 I'm not an SEC fan by any means, and I know it's the best 617 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:05.039 conference in the country and it's really not close. But you know, Texas 618 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:10.000 is consistent, and what I mean by that is they're consistently oblivious to the 619 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:16.320 fact that they've never actually produced results that would warrant the attitude that they have 620 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:22.039 about themselves. I mean Nick Saban, this is what he had to say 621 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.079 on Texas. You know what kind of tickles me is all these people asking 622 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.079 these questions about how Texas always ran the conference they were in. They're not 623 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.000 going to run the SEC. Yeah, there's a whole lot of a people 624 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.920 in a lot of places in so I can forget all about it. Yeah, 625 00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:40.840 they'll be a good team and a great program and Startcle'll do a great 626 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.480 job. But that's not going to be a problem. I haven't heard anybody 627 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:51.440 really say Texas is going to run the SEC, and I think honestly, 628 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:53.400 timing is on their side. We talked about this a few weeks ago. 629 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:58.599 For Texas to be making the jump to the SEC, it really couldn't have 630 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.519 happened at a better time for them because they actually are coming off of a 631 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.920 breakthrough season where they did finally punch their ticket to the college football Playoff. 632 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.280 They've got their quarterback returning, who's really really good quinn Ewers. Obviously Sark 633 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:13.800 has done a good job there, so they are in a good spot. 634 00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:16.960 But even with that, they still probably are going to be, you know, 635 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:21.679 in that second tier. Maybe not this year because again they're good, 636 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.760 but I think that top tier right now is Georgia and then you know, 637 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.199 we'll see what we'll see about Bama after saving But I wouldn't be shocked if 638 00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:32.880 they're still really really good there this year. But this notion that Texas dominated 639 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.800 and ran their league, they bullied their league. They were the bully of 640 00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.480 the Big twelve when it comes to like, you know, how things are 641 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.000 gonna work, right, They've got more influence when it comes to that league 642 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:49.079 than anybody else them in Oklahoma. Just like in the ACC the Carolina schools, 643 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.159 we can all act like everybody's equal, we're not those schools and what 644 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:54.599 they do and what they want matters way more than anybody else because they are 645 00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.719 the Ogs and league headquarters and you know, the good old boys in Carolina 646 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.760 right back o Road. But when it comes to Texas and Oklahoma, how 647 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.280 about this stat for you, John, You ready to be blown away? 648 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:14.239 Do it? Texas and Oklahoma only won eleven of the last twenty seven Big 649 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.760 Twelve titles before leaving for the SEC collectively, that's pretty crazy. I mean 650 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.559 that tells you like they didn't they didn't rule the Big Twelve no at all. 651 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:24.239 I mean twenty seven years, that's a long time. It's a long 652 00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.519 time. So you know, Oklahoma, I think it's really kind of a 653 00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.119 like to me, I have no clue Oklahoma may end up because what Oklahoma's 654 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.679 gonna tell us? I think unless they're like really unless they're really good this 655 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.800 year unexpectedly, I don't think aybody thinks they're gonna stink. But like if 656 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:43.840 Oklahoma comes in and they get kind of humbled a little bit in there, 657 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.199 you know, middle of the pack, that'll be a good look on the 658 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:51.360 SEC. But if Oklahoma comes in and like, you know, they're handling 659 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:57.880 everybody outside of Georgia, Bama, Texas and you know, like everybody, 660 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.239 because I think they're gonna be a good study as far as the rest of 661 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.760 the SEC, because there's so many teams in the SEC that really don't accomplish 662 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.960 anything substantial. But they end up seven and five, six and six, 663 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.679 But because they play in the SEC, they're viewed as well. If they 664 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.400 were in this league, they'd have three more wins, And to be honest 665 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.880 with you, we'll never know, right, but I always thought that they've 666 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.960 not deserved the benefit of the doubt whenever they get it. Like last year, 667 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.519 the SEC did not do well in non conference games, and I think 668 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.119 that should always factor in when you get the benefit of out. If you 669 00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.239 beat up on each other in conference play, that's where you really have to 670 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.679 factor in what you did against the other conferences, because beating up on each 671 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.960 other and everybody kind of having the same record doesn't mean everybody's great and it's 672 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.679 just too tough to win because everybody's good. It could mean everybody kind of 673 00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.840 stinks or everybody's kind of average. All right, we got to run two 674 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.079 more hours left, so stick with us. Four o'clock hour on the way. 675 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.760 We'll talk some strength to schedule. We'll give you some updates on recruiting. 676 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:58.239 We've got that as well. And I'm gonna give you the warning when 677 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.639 we talk about the Donald Trump stuff. As always, it's not gonna be 678 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.760 political at all. But I just cannot believe and maybe I'm maybe I'm the 679 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.519 goof that's getting, you know, getting got here, and this is all 680 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.320 fake news. But there is a psychic who four months ago, whenever he 681 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.960 was talking about the solar eclipses, he threw out some crazy things and visions 682 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:21.679 that he has seen and one of them was exactly what happened Saturday, and 683 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:29.079 it freaks me out. Let's get freaky