WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:18.039 Hello, you're here with T and Matthew and we are the bing Zing Zoom 2 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:23.039 Podcast. Can you dig it? I know, I know you've been waiting 3 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:27.559 to hear that for a while. So we're back with some new stuff. 4 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:34.880 So what's going on, Matthew? How you been good? I got covid 5 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.840 for a little while, so that was interesting. After they officially announced that 6 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:46.359 the pandemic was over, then I get it. Yeah, it's the best 7 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.399 time. It's the best exactly. So that so that caught me up for 8 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:54.479 a little while. But but we're back ready to to put out some more 9 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:58.880 information for you guys and catch you up on what's been going on in the 10 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:03.399 universe, sir. So, I just wanted to state that you basically you 11 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.159 had to let other people test it out first. You know, you don't 12 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:07.560 want to You don't want to buy things before you have enough data, you 13 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:14.239 know what I'm saying. You want to get it beforehand. So, speaking 14 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:19.159 of getting things, so I got the the aw video game right. People 15 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.879 are really torn on this. In the lead up to the game the game's 16 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:30.920 release, people were saying, you know that they were unsure of whether it 17 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:36.480 could live up to the standard that WWF no Mercy. It's set and that 18 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:42.840 is what people like Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks who are instrumental in helping 19 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:49.200 bring the game to fruition. They kept referring to No Mercy. Their gamers 20 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:56.920 themselves there, you know, wrestlers, top tier wrestlers. They actually were 21 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:04.280 the groundbreakers for AW. For those of you who don't know what AW is, 22 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:09.360 it's all elite wrestling. There are only two major wrestling companies in the 23 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:14.879 United States right now, and that is, of course WWE and now AW. 24 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:21.039 So AW is already jumped into the video game market. Of course, 25 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:27.759 they're not trying to compete with WWE in terms of creating a simulation of wrestling. 26 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:36.360 There's their goal was more so fun, right, and No Mercy is 27 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.280 considered by many to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest wrestling 28 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:46.360 game ever made. Now, with that said, I was asked my opinion 29 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:53.000 on the AW video game, and so here it is. The AW video 30 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:57.639 game is exactly what it was supposed to be, which is fun. If 31 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.199 you were looking for simulation, you're looking in the wrong place. If you 32 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:07.840 were looking for a knocked down, drag out type of video game, then 33 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:13.039 you're looking in the right place. If you're looking for, uh, you 34 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:17.599 know, a super in depth story mode, you know that's it's not the 35 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:24.759 right place. So all in all, it is a fun game and just 36 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:29.680 that it's a fun game to play. You know, anybody could pick it 37 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.960 up and just start playing. You don't have to be a big time gamer 38 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:38.000 or you know that that that wrestling games to be able to pick it up 39 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:50.120 and have fun graphics. If No Mercy was updated a few steps right, 40 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:58.039 some people's issue and comment on it was that the graphics looked as though they 41 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:02.800 were GameCube graphics. Keep it in mind, this is the very first video 42 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:10.360 game under aw SO and you know whatever the budget that a W had at 43 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:14.039 the time, as well as the goal to make it a fun game and 44 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:17.160 not necessarily a simulation, you know, those things lead into it. So 45 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:21.959 the character bills are a little bit a little cartoonish, but not too much. 46 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:27.920 And it's interesting to me too, because when we're talking about graphics, 47 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.759 right, like, we went through this whole thing where it's like, graphics 48 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:31.639 have to be better, they have to be better, they have to be 49 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.399 better. Ps four, ps five, you know whatever. But now with 50 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:42.160 the reinvention of mobile games, right, we have games that look like they're 51 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.279 sixteen bit or eight bit games that are popular now. You know, so 52 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:51.360 graphics aren't the end all be all the way they used to be. So 53 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:57.000 does this game look a little bit cartoony? Yes? Will that turn off 54 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:01.160 some people maybe, but I think the mass, the majority of audiences will 55 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:08.480 probably be pretty adapted take that on. Yeah. Absolutely. And so my 56 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:15.040 final take on this one, having played you know, many wrestling games throughout 57 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.399 my life, aw fun. I gave it a seven and a half. 58 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:24.000 It's out of ten very good, try, very good, try super fun. 59 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:29.000 And you know, when when I first got the game, it uh, 60 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.240 you know, it's fun to play, but it let me wonder a 61 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.720 little bit more. But now that I know that they're gonna keep adding on 62 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.480 to the game, They're gonna keep adding things to the game via updates. 63 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:47.160 You know, they have these like games that have nothing to do with wrestling 64 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:51.680 in them. There's many games in there where you're in like a baseball field 65 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:56.759 and a whole bunch of stuff that's on the way, and there's thirty people 66 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.079 all in the baseball field. So, like I said, even if you're 67 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.240 whether you're a wrestling fan, not a wrestling fan. Wrestling video game fan, 68 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.079 not a wrestling video game fan. It's a fun game to play. 69 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:08.759 We'll go all this keeping it with video games. Uh. You know, 70 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:13.800 while I was locked away, I did a deep dive in an investigation into 71 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:18.839 the Amazon Luna video game system. If you heard about this Amazon Luna yea 72 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.759 yeah, So it's a for those of you guys who don't know, it 73 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:30.639 is a streaming video game right system, sort of similar to like Steam or 74 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.879 you know one of those right where they you know, upload the games to 75 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:38.240 the Internet and then you stream them, but it's done through Amazon. You 76 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:41.720 know, if you've got a fire stick or you've got an Amazon fire TV 77 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.920 or anything like that, or even you know, you could do some games 78 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.519 on your phone, you can play right on there. All you need is 79 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.800 an Amazon Luna controller, which you know goes for about I think it's like 80 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.959 fifty bucks, but you know, if you get them on sale, you 81 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:57.199 can get them for cheaper than that, and it's ten dollars a month. 82 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.439 So how is Amazon Luna right? Does it live up to the hype? 83 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:04.000 Is it as good as Steam? Well? What I'd say the problem is 84 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:09.160 is there's very limited games. Right. They put a game up, it's 85 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.399 up for maybe a month. You're like, oh cool, I want to 86 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.360 play that, but I want to finish this game first, and then they 87 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:16.199 take it down before you get to it. Is it glitchy, No, 88 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.240 not so much, but it does depend on your internet speed like any other 89 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:26.040 streaming video game system. However, they do have a wide variety of games. 90 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:30.240 Right now. They have Beatman Arkham Knight up on there. They've got 91 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.759 the YS eight, which is considered one of the best JRPGs in recent years, 92 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.560 up on there. They've got Fortnite, all of these things. So 93 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:44.279 if you're wanting to play a lot of video games without having to pay fifty 94 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:48.399 sixty bucks for games that you are constantly rotating, without necessarily caring about the 95 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.720 newest games that are out. If you're a casual gamer but you want to 96 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.639 play a lot you want to get back into it, it's a very cost 97 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.639 effective way to do it without having to buy a PS five, without even 98 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.759 having to go and buy a used PS four, you have a lot of 99 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.040 games that are available to you pretty glitch free for a very low price. 100 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:13.639 So that's my review of the Amazon Luna streaming cloud based video game system. 101 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:20.240 Nice because that's that you just reminded me about it, actually, because I 102 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.519 heard about it and then it fell off the map in my mind, and 103 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:28.519 then I just now I didn't know anybody that tried it yet, so that's 104 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.960 pretty good. Another thing, sticking with the games, I guess this is 105 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:39.039 going to be the gaming episode, because so I got well, I went 106 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.320 back home. I went to my brother's right back home is in New York, 107 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.639 and my brother gives me this case. A whole bunch of CDs in 108 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.720 and stuff like that. Right, so it has music CDs, there's Tupac 109 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.399 is in there, there's Nellie CDs. And I'm like, oh, you 110 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.440 know, feeling real nostalgic, right, and as you flipped to the back, 111 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.600 there's a whole bunch of PS two games. I was like, oh, 112 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.399 snap, we hit the gold mine. Right. He's like, yeah, 113 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.960 you can have those because I have a PS two. Still he doesn't 114 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.799 have a PS two, So I said, wow, So now I'm gonna 115 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.759 be able to actually play some video games on this thing. Besides, Here 116 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.759 Comes to Pain, which was the only video game that I actually have at 117 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:33.120 the moment for it. So, speaking of these these retro systems, right, 118 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.919 you know, watching them go from their original asking price down to extremely 119 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:48.320 low and then watching nostalgia bring them back up is insane. When I tell 120 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:54.879 you these these retro gaming consoles at certain places. I was in this place 121 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:00.519 in Long Island, for example, looking through. It was a retro place. 122 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.360 They had toys in their video games, everything, Marvel stuff, Star 123 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.240 Wars, you name it. Right in the back they have the gaming area. 124 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.440 So they have Xbox PlayStation, the original Xbox PlayStation, Xbox three, 125 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.759 sixty, They have Pakea Genesis, they have Atari games as well as systems. 126 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:20.960 Back there, I said, okay, well let me let me just 127 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.519 look. Oh, they have the the Nintendo sixty four. That's it's kind 128 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.240 of see through and it was green, right, so let me take a 129 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.320 look at that one, the Donkey Kong one, Donkey Kong Special Edition one. 130 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.159 Yeah. Yeah, so I said, well, let me take a 131 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.039 look at the price you want. You want to take a guess as to 132 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:52.639 how much they were asking six n nine Okay, no, a little a 133 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.960 little less than that, A little less, yeah, unless you met six 134 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.799 dollars ninety nine cents, But yeah, let's go with that. That's what 135 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:05.080 I'm Yeah, but no, they were asking four hundred dollars for this game 136 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.320 system, and I'm like, well, I might as well just spend the 137 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:16.600 extra hundred dollars and get a PS five or Xbox Series X, like four 138 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.200 hundred dollars for that. I know, nostalgia, somebody's gonna go in there 139 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.600 and like, oh wow, this is the system I've been looking for. 140 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:28.759 I needed this for my collection. I'm not that guy. I'm going to 141 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.679 need the money a little bit more for my collection of bills. Well, 142 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:37.720 you know, and like you said, there there are people who you want 143 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.360 to collect. There are people who want to put it up on a shelf 144 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.840 and look at it. And that's totally fine. You know, I'm not 145 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.799 spend spend your money how you want, as long as you're covering your bills 146 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.360 and you're being safe, do what you like, right. But it's interesting 147 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.799 to me because like a great example of that is Final Fantasy seven. Right 148 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.399 when Final Fantasy seven came out, it costs the normal forty dollars or whatever 149 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.039 video games are going for it at that point. Then you know, it 150 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.519 hit the used market and it was selling for like ten bucks. Finally everybody 151 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.519 decided that that was the best video game that came out during the PS one 152 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.840 era, I mean and not not joking. I saw it selling for thousands 153 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.240 of dollars on eBay at one point a copy, yeah, a copy of 154 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:24.519 Final Fantasy seven. Then what happened is they released it where you can download 155 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.759 it from the PS store, right, have it digitally, And then suddenly 156 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:35.279 that market crashed and everybody was selling their copies of Final Fantasy seven for forty 157 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.519 fifty bucks, right, Which, don't get me wrong, that's still expensive 158 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.879 because that's the price that it was selling for new. But there's a hell 159 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.679 of a lot of difference between thousands of dollars two forty or fifty bucks because 160 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:52.559 now you could buy it, you know, cloud based, right. So 161 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.720 you gotta wonder when it comes to a lot of these systems like that. 162 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.759 Nintendo specifically has been a very interesting company of you know, like, yes, 163 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.360 they've got their streaming stuff, but then they don't really start and streaming 164 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.720 stuff. But then they put out Mario games, but then they sell that 165 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.320 same Mario game for eight years, all at the same price. Like their 166 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:16.759 marketing strategy is very confusing to me. And I don't know how many of 167 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.039 the N sixty four games are available on the switch and stuff like that. 168 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:26.440 So for some people who really want to get that nostalgia, buying these old 169 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.600 systems might be the only way to play these games. I don't know, 170 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.159 right, would Nintendo? It's hard to say, yeah, no, that's 171 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:39.519 that's true. Speaking of the nostalgia with the Here Comes the Pain. So 172 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:45.679 I bought w WF Here Comes the Pain for the PS two and I bought 173 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.679 it from that same store that I was in, and uh, it's funny 174 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:54.240 because I so I asked the guy if he had it. I came and 175 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.080 I was like, hey, do you have like WWF. I'm sorry, 176 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.840 w w Here Comes the Pain? And he was like, nah, I 177 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:09.039 don't have that one, but I have I have WWF shut your mouth somewhere 178 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.120 in there, right, So I said, okay. So I started looking 179 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.240 right and I see the glass section and so I said, okay, well, 180 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.399 let me just look. It's probably in the glass section, and sure 181 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.559 enough, it's in there. I was like, hey, can I go 182 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.039 on here? And he was like yeah, sure. So I just slide 183 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.879 the glass open. It was just unlocked. I thought that the key he 184 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.000 had to use the key, but it was unlocked. So I slided and 185 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:37.240 sure, enough within two seconds, like you know, like you're in the 186 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:41.240 library looking for something, found it and pulled it out, brought it up 187 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.519 to the front. He was like, oh, I didn't know we had 188 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.440 it. I was like, yeah, sure you didn't, budd he was 189 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.279 in the glass. You put it in there, and you were trying to 190 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.960 say no, as you want this game. That's cool, But long story 191 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:03.399 short, paid it was forty five for it, and so around original asking 192 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:09.200 price, basically around the original asking price for this game, but Nostalgia has 193 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.320 kept this game at that price, and I saw it for way higher than 194 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.639 forty five dollars. So I saw he said forty five dollars and I was 195 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.960 like, oh, I'll take that, because I've seen this thing for seventy 196 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:26.080 seven on Amazon and higher than that one hundred and three dollars and so on. 197 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.679 I'm like, man, you know, if you're a collector and this 198 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.519 is the last piece of your collection, right, if you had every wrestling 199 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:39.759 game you know from from start to now and this is the only one that 200 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.759 was missing, what do you do in that situation? You know, do 201 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:46.120 you drop the big bucks? You call yourself a collector? Or? Are 202 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.399 you're a collector? You know it's a nut check. Well, same thing 203 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.440 with like the Pokemon cards. You know, like Pokemon cards back in the 204 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.639 day were you know, when't Pokemon come to the US ninety eight, like 205 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:00.519 I think it was ninety eight was when it was really popular and you know, 206 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.360 everybody was buying Pokemon cards. And it just goes in waves. Every 207 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:07.399 so often, the Pokemon cards will go back up in value. And the 208 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:12.120 last time was when one of our favorite people that we talk about on the 209 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:18.000 show all the time, Logan Paul, decided that he was going to start 210 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:22.440 opening up Pokemon cards on his stream, and the value this was like what 211 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:25.480 three years ago, like right before the pandemic, I feel like it was. 212 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.679 But the value of Pokemon cards just like shot through the roof. But 213 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:36.759 it only stayed there for a year at most, and then it was back 214 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.879 down to Oh, now you could buy a shiny chars Ard for fifteen bucks 215 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:42.440 or whatever on eBay. But you know, again, it's still a lot 216 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.600 of money for one card, but compared to you know, what was it 217 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.759 that somebody sold like a mint condition chars Ard for it was like I think 218 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:56.080 six hundred dollars something like that. Now it's down to you know fifteen. 219 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:02.200 Again, It's funny how this market just absent lows, the nostalgia market. 220 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.720 One day it'll be Final Fantasy seven, the next day it'll be w W, 221 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.319 the next day it'll be Pokemon. Right. Yeah, So my daughter 222 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.000 to hang on to her squish meadows for that very reason, just because I'm 223 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:19.359 like, hey, you know, they're only making these things right now, 224 00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:22.839 and then they move on to the next thing and whatever is the newest craze 225 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.599 or what have you. So I said, well, it was starting to 226 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.279 get a little ridiculous, uh in there in her room, and so we 227 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.119 put some of them up and so that she can have walk in space and 228 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:41.359 walking room. But yeah, she has like every squish meadow we go somewhere, 229 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:47.559 she's like ooh, this one, that one. But eventually that that 230 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.559 might be kind of like a painting. You know, she has a squish 231 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.960 mellows now, and if she sees the market for them go up, and 232 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.119 now it's a sign you want to buy a house, get those squish meadows 233 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.319 out the closet. Well, you know, same thing for like Beanie Babe's. 234 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:06.079 Remember when beanie babies were like worst I don't even know how much Wow, 235 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:11.079 he said, Beanie Babies. That's crazy, oh, man, nostalgia 236 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:17.599 the early two thousands was a lawless waste land, man, I tell you 237 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:27.279 so. So I don't remember anything, like maybe maybe it was just me 238 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.559 right because I see it. There's a whole lot of nostalgia. I feel 239 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:36.519 like nostalgia is at its peak right now because you know, when it comes 240 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:45.119 to Marvel and uh, you know, Marvel being a top tiered movie company, 241 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.480 like is it still is it still? Yeah? I mean now now 242 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.559 a lot of there's a lot of people who before they Marvel and superhero movies 243 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:57.960 in general were not the money makers at all by any stress of the imagination 244 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.559 before and you'd be taking a chance on them, you know, a few 245 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.440 years back, twenty thirty years back, well, thirty years back, and 246 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:12.640 now you know, after Blade and so on, there's been some inconsistencies, 247 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:18.720 but for the most part, superhero movies are are known right now today as 248 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.640 bringing in a whole lot of revenue, a whole lot of money and so 249 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.960 on. So I feel like the end, I feel like the superhero industry 250 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.279 is kind of dying though, like because if you look at you know, 251 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.960 reviews, particularly of the shows like the Disney plus shows and things like that. 252 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:40.839 People are always complaining about the CG looks bad, this looks bad, 253 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:45.759 and there's already this call for oh well, the Infinity Saga was so much 254 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.839 better, like those were the good days of Marvel. There's already that going 255 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.880 on, you know. I think that this that right now, DC really 256 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:57.640 has the opportunity with their new one that they're getting ready to launch, to 257 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:02.440 be the big name. But you were going somewhere with that. But my 258 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:07.279 point is is I think that already there's nostalgia for the Infinity Saga. No, 259 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:12.079 that's precisely it is that the nostalgia like now and it comes so so 260 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:18.680 much faster. It's like, oh, it took you know, twenty years, 261 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.119 thirty years for Bell bottoms to return into some sort of fashion, you 262 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.039 know, and now it'll be like, oh, that was cool six months 263 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:30.839 ago, and then it's dead. And then a year later it's like, 264 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.000 oh they're bringing that back. It's like a year just just a year's time 265 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:41.039 has passed and they're already like, oh, nostalgic about it, you know, 266 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.119 whereas before it's like ten years, you know, where where something would 267 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:51.079 bring about a nostalgic Field and just thinking about transformers, think about you know, 268 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:56.079 the comics that we read as kids and now that we still read becoming 269 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:03.519 you know, movies and TV shows and you know, everything seems very nostalgic 270 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.319 right now. And that might be because we've we've made the wheel and reinvented 271 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.759 it and reinvented it, then reinvented it and so on. But now seems 272 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:18.400 like it is more of a nostalgic period in time than ever before, or 273 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.119 more than I can recall. You know, It's funny because I think a 274 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.519 lot of people would look at that and say things like, there's nothing original 275 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:33.400 anymore, you know people, you know, everybody's just rehashing the same thing 276 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:37.000 over and over again. Do we need another Marvel movie? Do we need 277 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.400 another Disney remake? Do we need you know whatever? Whatever? Right? 278 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.759 And I think some people would argue a different point and say, oh, 279 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.680 well, nostalgia makes us feel good, member berries right, you know, 280 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.799 oh we we long for a period when you know something was innocent and blah 281 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:59.200 blah blah blah. I want to throw out a different perspective and say that 282 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:03.039 this is all He's been the case. There have always been retellings we go 283 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.519 to the same play over and over again. Shakespeare has always been around, 284 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:12.640 and there's always been retellings of fairy tales and whatever, whatever whatever. Right 285 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:21.440 now, we're in such a time of wealth disparity. Right, people don't 286 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.200 make as much money as they used to. The economy is so out of 287 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:30.079 control. Why would I spend my money to go see a movie or go 288 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.440 read a book or watch a show and my limited time, let alone money. 289 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:38.440 You're limited time to watch something that you don't know if you're going to 290 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:44.559 like. I know I like Batman, I know I like Marvel, I 291 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.039 know I liked The Little Mermaid. Right, so I could see a new 292 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.240 version of something I know that I like and don't have to take this risk 293 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.720 of wasting my time and my money, or I could go see something that 294 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.160 I'm completely unfamiliar with, right And I don't think it's the fact that it's 295 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:04.799 nostalgia. I think it's the fact that it's we know what we're getting and 296 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:10.279 we don't have to take this risk of our limited time and money. That 297 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:15.480 is true. That is true interesting perspective on now, and that's true going 298 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:21.799 back. What's something that you would say that brings about that feeling for you. 299 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.359 Is it, you know, is it doing a particular thing, is 300 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.319 it like, uh, you know, is it playing the guitar? What's 301 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:37.160 something that brings about immense an immense amount of nostalgia for you? You know, 302 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:44.920 I don't really know, because again, to a certain extent, with 303 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:49.079 the Internet, right, we don't have to search for nostalgia anymore. Like 304 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.599 we talked about a lot of the shows that we liked as a kid are 305 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:56.160 still around and stuff. You know, we talk about comic books, you 306 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.960 know, and even you know, stalgia for comic books. Comic books has 307 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.000 been going strong since nineteen thirty five, thirty you know seven, when did 308 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.319 Action comics come out? Thirty seven? Yeah, nineteen thirty seven, right, 309 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:15.559 since the nineteen thirty yeah, yeah, yeah, nineteen thirties, you 310 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.759 know. And so you say, oh, well, we're in nostalgia for 311 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:21.119 that that never went away. How Rangers never went away? You know, 312 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:25.160 sometimes we want to go back and look at the early things or get back 313 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:30.279 into something. But is that really nostalgia or is that just catching back up 314 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:33.759 on something we haven't been you know, prevy too. I don't really know. 315 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:40.240 The one thing I think maybe gives me nostalgia, so to speak, 316 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:44.559 or maybe two things that give me nostalgia. Is one, I'd say Nickelodeon 317 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:49.599 cartoons, right, like going back watching old episodes of The rug Rats or 318 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:55.759 Keenan and Cal or you know something like that that I was probably even watching 319 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.200 rerun. I don't even think I saw them when they originally aired. I 320 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.680 think I was probably watching reruns of as a kid. But going back, 321 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.720 I think that gives me a lot of nostalgia. And the other thing is 322 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.799 food. I move around a lot, you know, I lived in a 323 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.759 lot of different places as a kid and even as an adult. And saying 324 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.200 oh, I'm gonna get food that I used to get when I lived in 325 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:17.640 this place. I'm gonna go to this restaurant that I used to go to 326 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.960 when I lived in this place, that gives me a real sense of nostalgia. 327 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.240 Yeah. For me, it's definitely wrestling. And I mean wrestling has 328 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:32.680 been consistent in my life, but it's definitely wrestling. So and that's something 329 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.559 that when I sit down, you know, I've watched stuff recently that I 330 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.359 was like, Oh, I didn't realize that this happened because when I was 331 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.000 a kid, I remembered it differently, and then going back and watching it 332 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.200 as an adult, I'm like, oh wait a second, so now I 333 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:56.559 understand it better. And now it's it's different when people say things about the 334 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.119 child's mind, right, and how a child's mind works. Yeah, you 335 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.480 know, the attention to spending isn't all there, so you might you might 336 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.799 gather this and that. But another aspect is, you know, just general 337 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:14.799 experience, life experience. You gauge things differently, you put them up against 338 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.359 other things differently when you're an adult watching something versus when you're a kid. 339 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:25.119 And I've seen that exactly. Yeah. Yeah, And so in another way, 340 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.079 it's like, let's say somebody watching something right and you know, they 341 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.480 watch it as a kid and it's like it's the greatest thing. They're like, 342 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.440 oh yeah, I remember, and it was this, that and the 343 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.559 third, and then they become an adult and then they watch it and they're 344 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.559 like this is trash, Like what is this? I thought this is my 345 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.640 favorite show when I was a kid, and this is jack shit. But 346 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:53.880 you know, sometimes, uh, sometimes it also works in the reverse. 347 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.559 It works like you know, oh, well, you know, my parents 348 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:03.400 maybe watch this show. Oh my parents put on Bob Ross and the guy 349 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:06.359 was just sitting there painting and the next thing, you know, you're like, 350 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.839 huh. You see Bob Ross on TV as an adult and you're like, 351 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:15.559 wow, this guy's relaxing, Like, no, wonder my parents put 352 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:21.240 this on. And it's interesting too, because, like you said, you 353 00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.039 know, as a kid, you know, we look at things and go, 354 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.839 oh man, that was epic because we didn't have anything to compare it 355 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:32.079 to, you know, the X Men nineties cartoon or you know the Dragon 356 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.160 Ball Z or the Power Rangers or whatever, and you go back and you 357 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.160 watch it now and it's like, man, this is so slow pace. 358 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.839 It takes thirty episodes for Goku to power up, you know, whatever. 359 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:45.079 The case is, right, but at that time, you didn't have anything. 360 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.119 And I think again, that's a lot of reason why things are getting 361 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.680 remade and stuff like that is because they want to give you that feeling that 362 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.400 you felt, but updated to your mindset nowadays, right, you know, 363 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.599 And that's why we see the Marvel movies, you know, they give you 364 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.799 that same feeling that the Spider Man cartoon gave you in the nineties, or 365 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.640 Spectacular Spider Man in the early two thousands or whatever. But give it to 366 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.920 you in a live action, realistic setting. But that being said, there 367 00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:18.759 are so many people who are also like, anyway you want to dig into 368 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:23.640 something, you can dig into it, Like let's let's talk about the beauty 369 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.920 and the beast. Right. If you want to look at this from a 370 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:32.160 you know, negative standpoint, you say, oh, well, she's a 371 00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.839 girl who got kidnapped, had severe Stockholm syndrome, fell for her abuser. 372 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.200 It's a bad you know, representation for women. You can't just marry somebody 373 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.240 you just met. He was horrible, you know, all this, etcetera, 374 00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:47.039 etcetera. Or you can look at this, you know, in a 375 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:52.519 different way and say she was an intelligent woman who sacrificed herself for her family, 376 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:57.359 remained calm in the face of adversity, found the goodness in somebody else, 377 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:03.240 and was able to help not only herself but educate the people around her, 378 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.039 become better people, and found love in the end. Right, And 379 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.640 either one is a valid way of looking at it. It just matters how 380 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:15.000 people do it. And I feel like so often nowadays people want to be 381 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.519 that cynic people want to look at you know, Disney movies and be like 382 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.079 those are bad examples for girls because blah bla blah blah blah, or these 383 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:27.519 were you know, causing violence because of blah blah blah blah when you know, 384 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:30.799 what the hell right, It just depends on how you want to look 385 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.119 at it. This is true and this has been another episode of the Being 386 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.079 Zang Zoom podcast. We'll see you next time.