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Mmm, Hello, it is Tuesday. Remember twenty fourth. I had to

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think about it for a second third
twenty fifteen. Which day of the week

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is it? I don't know.
Turkey Day, No, no, son,

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not an official day of the week. I'm I guess, I don't

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know. Okay, there's one other
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You might be Turkey. Let's go
with Turkey. Okay, Turkey Day all

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a Turkey's eve? Okay? Yeah, sas you get to dress up in

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your okay, you put your put
your hand down on a piece of paper,

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you trace around it. Ye,
I'm doing that right, fingers extended.

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When you draw the little hanggy thing
under the thumb, put some feathers

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on thet A turkey, that is
it? Yes, that's a goblet.

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Okay, this is a giant bomb
cast and that's a goblet. Thanks for

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listening. It's pronounced next week.
Thank you Insta God. Stay tuned for

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Hello, Hi, Hey, what's
going to podcast? I'll have no idea.

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We're trying to do some live in
studio fully work right before this.

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Yeah, Jason's got a real Jason
found and then you's got a creaky,

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creaky microphone stand and I don't know
if any of it is picking up.

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Maybe if we are talking at the
same time, that'll break the gate on

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our Yeah, because it was getting
gate it out here, I think it

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might be anyway. I think it
rattled all of our brains before this.

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Yeah, you have to stop doing
that. No, you have to stop

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doing that. You have to stop
doing that. I gotta bring it to

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my No, you have to do
good. I think I'm wait. Okay,

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you made the fan on this computer, so even louder it was fan

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kicked up all the canceling out of
whatever. Creaking. Oh my god,

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I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jay'son. Ay
Striker is the man with the creaky that's

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me Creak, the man from Creaky
Creek. You're scandal at the end of

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the table. Yes, you know
what, this might be our last time

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recording. That's true. Your mouth, isn't that right, Jeffers. I'll

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believe it when I said, Okay, yep, yes, we may or

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may not record another podcast in the
studio, I don't know that. Sure

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guess and say we will. Oh
you know what, we'll probably do the

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next one in here, right,
So well, wait, maybe not?

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I mean, because we're gonna have
dudes in depending on what we do with

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extra bodies. Yeah, we might
not be able to fit in here next

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week. There there's a section of
our floor right now with eight around a

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table. It looks like into one
mixer. It looks like an unholy assembly

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line of like robotic arms that have
like like welding implements on them or whatever.

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That's a scary looking table. Uh. Maybe we'll have such a couple

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of extra people belly up to that
thing next week for for this Yeah.

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Possibly, or it might not work
at all. Yeah, maybe we'll be

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That's where my money's going. I
hope it'll be fine for the sake of

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for the sake of all of our
collective sanity. Next week, I hope

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things go smoothly. I like to
shoot low. Okay, yes, keep

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your expectations low. It's hard to
be disappointed. That's Giant bomb dot Com

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colon aim low. How goes the
movie? I can launch your splash damage

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video games. That's right, that's
right. Just shooting near the feet,

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just just the aim in the general
vicinity, because I'm probably it'll get on

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them. It'll be fine. Did
you guys happen to walk by the studio

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when you came up here, I
know, not for a lot of way

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different since this morning. I can
see the couches from the control room.

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There's dancing room. Oh what since
dance since the meeting we had in there

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this morning? Yes, oh,
I gotta go see that. No more

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TVs? Oh wow, no more
cameras, dude, it's like it's no

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more lights. It's finally. Yeah, just a laptop and productions now with

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a live studio audience. I mean
that's all you need a internet, You

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just need a couch pariscope for a
lot. It would be like the Grateful

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Dead. We'll just have to rely
on our fans to bootleg everything. Yeah,

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just pass VHS tapes around and in
the taping pit. Here's a quarter

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inch jack, go for it.
Yeah. So yeah, it's uh,

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what is a t minus two weeks
until we got to be off that floor

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completely? Uh yeah, until the
flamethrower has come through everything. Yes,

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the purge begins. Anything left on
that floor, but really reduced to senders.

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Really it's Monday, like this coming
Monday is when we are starting to

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move down there, because dudes will
come and move our stuff. Yeah,

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but that's at the end. Of
the week. Yeah, anything we want

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down there and usable we have to
move ourselves, sure and and like for

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for sure in one piece. Yeah
right. Also that are we going against

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the union? Are we the scabs? No? I don't think it's I

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don't think it's a union thing.
Oh it's not like look so we can

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move verse. It's not like an
E three where you get yelled at if

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you'd move anything. So it is
not like E three where if you have

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anything on wheels, some SYS standing
there cracking his knuckles and give you the

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stairs. Let's to know. Yeah, yeah, I know that that should

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be fine. Yeah, it's I
you know, I've I've been through some

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moves from one office to another before, hell of times actually now and this

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one normally they've sent out an email
by now that says here's how to here's

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the number you should write on your
box to make sure it goes to the

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right place. And I've seen none
of that. And now it's just like

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all right, well, okay,
all right, well I guess we're they

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say we're moving. That's that's the
only like, you know, people were

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packing stuff up to move to all
new, all better space, uh,

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freshly renovated I mean there are desks
down there. There are desks. I

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don't know if there's power or internet
or whatever, but there's place to put

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things. Yeah. Last time when
I was when when did you take me

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down? There was a two weeks
ago something like there was no power as

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of two weeks ago. Yeah,
there were desks though, and carpet.

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We'll be on the first floor.
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midpoint through the building here, which
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that. Yeah, I don't know. Ground level thing, okay with it?

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Yeah, not having to deal with
elevator and stairs all the time.

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Well, so I come, I
come in through the basement, so I

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will always have some sort of a
journey. That's fair. Yeah, No,

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that's that's why I belong strictly from
the pack him up at the end

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of the night, and yeah I'm
pack them in the morning. It's gonna

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be really weird not having games stuff
on three here after the last fifteen years

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plus of having all the game stuff
on three. Damn. Yeah, it's

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there's a lot of you were here
even before I was for that stuff.

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I was, I moved into this
building. We were we were the first

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tenants into the building here onto the
third floor. And yeah, before that,

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we were on Townsend Street, which
was where Sega was and where Zinga

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I think still is now, or
on the third floor there too. I

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think we were the fourth. Actually
we were definitely on the fourth because I

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found some business cards over the weekend. I had my hands on some old

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business cards that were throwing away from
video games dot com those heady days.

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Yeah, yeah, and uh yeah
it was fourth floor over there, game

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Spot if it wasn't clear. It's
also coming with us on the first floor.

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Yeah, yeah, they're moving down
there too, into their own space.

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Pretty much the entire contents of the
third floor coming coming with us.

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Yeah. And chow dot Com.
Yeah. The food people are the people.

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Yeah, we'll have ready access to
a kitchen. Maybe not. Yeah,

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I don't know what. I don't
know. I don't know what that

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means. Let us in there on
a regular basis. But why aren't they

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just making us food all? I
know? Yeah, aren't they like trying

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recipes and stuff? They give us
the botched ones. Sure, that's see,

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see, that's like you're you're having
fun. But when the food people

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come by and oh don't you guys
just have video games to give away all

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the time. Be a real fucking
bummer. Yeah, you immediately just reframed

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that in the right contest. Yeah, you'd be like, absolutely not.

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We don't get enough to cover our
own needs most of the time. In

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fact. Yeah, yeah, So
I don't know that'll be fun, It's

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yeah, I would be something new
for yes, and and hopefully I think

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you know, the rooms, you
know, let's least some potentially exciting developments

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in the world of this podcast in
twenty sixteen, for the new room we're

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getting and all that sort of stuff, So positive stuff down there. Yeah,

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and for me personally, it'll be
nice to not be on this floor

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anymore. Just fresh, clean,
break, yep, clean start. Absolutely

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too much weird shit happened on this
floor, that's for sure, over the

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over the years. So yeah,
I don't know, torch it man,

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fucking burn it down right, Let's
get the hell out of here. It's

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same fucking cubicles and the same dumb
offices. Actually, I can think offices

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down there are just as shitty and
dumb as there. But we don't have

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offices the hell out of here.
We don't need them. Let Apple have

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it. It's their problem now.
Yeah, I'll never find what we hit,

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never find those burgers. Yeah,
oh man, well yeah, geez.

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Keeping up with all that stuff,
especially for you guys in the studio,

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but you know, even us down
there too, packing up desks and

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stuff. Yeah, it's a lot. It's almost like we've a massed a

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mountain of total bullshit over the past
few years down by our desks that you

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know has to be dealt with.
Yeah, it's a lot of yah.

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Yeah, it's a lot of wrangle. And keep up with you guys packing

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up those shelves. I'm not touching
that. Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know if everything on those
shelves needs to go with us, but

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I don't know. So we started
like picking through that stuff and and you

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know, at first glance, it's
like do we really need that? And

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then as soon as you hold it
in your hand, you're like, yeah,

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we should probably do you Do you
really need a strategy guide for C

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and c red alert too. So
I haven't I haven't been making those decisions

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yet. I've just been saying,
like, this is where all the books

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are going, right the drive Bombo
Library. Yeah, these are all books.

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These are all movies. Uh,
and then demo discs I'm putting into

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a separate box because I know we
need those. It's pretty big. That's

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the I need a second box,
yeah, for de discs, for de

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disks. We have a lot of
a lot, a lot of demo discs.

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I found some demo discs over the
weekend. We not content to pack

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up around the office. And also
probably because I'm home four to five large

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boxes of things to store at home
of my things that have gotten here and

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various other shit like that. I
spent my entire Saturday in the garage and

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in the room full of games,
kind of just like moving shit, moving

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mood. Yeah, I saw some
of the photos you were posting. Yeah,

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there was some ancient stuff in there. It's on my Instagram, yes,

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exactly, on the Graham, which
is my full name. It's out

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there on the grand Do you find
like you just like reminisce as you're going

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through that stuff, Like does a
lot of moving or organization actually occur or

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is it like open up a box
and it's like oh yeah, oh yeah,

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you just want to play with all
the toys. So yeah, there

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was there was definitely there was definitely
like lost time. So the thing I

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was trying to accomplish. So I
have an area to the right of my

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NBA jam machine that is just full
of cardboard boxes, full of just bullshit.

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And I wasn't even sure what it
was. It was stuff that's like

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it got thrown in there when I
moved in, hastily packed, not really

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sure where everything was, what everything
was, but it was like contents of

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a bookshelf and a bunch of weird
game stuff and all types of crazy shit.

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And and so I needed to put
the the I've been been taking these

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game storage containers and putting all my
Xbox games, Dreamcast ps one, like

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all these old physical discs into these
storage containers. And I wanted to get

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those from a room inside my house
out into the garage, but they needed

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to go in that space where all
that bullshit was. It was like,

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okay, I need to pull all
this stuff out of the corner, and

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and well, well it's got it's
gotta move. So I need to pull

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all that out, put neatly place
all of these like nice, relatively new

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storage containers in a sound location there, and then put the bullshit next to

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it, and it hopefully, hopefully
find a way to make that bullshit take

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up left space. So I finally
dug through it all and through away a

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ton of stuff, I said,
a bunch of rat magazines, which I

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thought I had thrown away most of
my rat magazines, but I found just

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like there was just like here's another
cash. We found a new vein of

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you know, nineties rat mags.
But that's fun to go back to.

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Like some old game magazines. Yeah, sometimes yeah, it's like I saved

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some of them depending on what was
on the cover. You know. It

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was just like, there's the issue
of the Source with Mace and a tiger

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and he's got tiger eyes and it
says Mace has I saw that photo was

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terrifying, and I threw that one
away because I don't need uh. And

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you know, it's like, hey, master p on the cover, don't

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need that. But like some other
you know, the there's the issue of

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I believe it's the issue of the
Source with doctor Dre right after he left

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NWA to start Death Row, and
it's it's him with a pistol up to

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his head, and I hung on
to that one. I have a sealed

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copy of the issue of Rolling Stone
with naked Jennifer Anniston on it. Because

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I'm a weirdo, I don't remember
them. Yeah, I remember it was

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Rolling Stone, the one that had
the infamous Janet Jackson photo. Yeah,

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okay, yeah, yeah. In
the pantheon of Rolling Stone covers featuring nudity,

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that's the one that comes to mind. Yeah, I know, I

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don't know how I ended up with
that, I it's but it's there.

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So yeah. So it was it
was a matter of like going through a

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lot of the stuff and go like, Okay, I don't need I don't

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need all this shit, and I
don't need like composite cables for a PlayStation

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one, you know, a lot
of stuff like that. But what if

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you run out. I'm not I'll
tell you right now. I'm not going

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to run out of composite PS one
cable, right. Uh. That's that's

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damn near guaranteed. So yeah,
it was a lot of stuff like that

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of just like getting rid of just
total garbage and then just like consolidating because

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it was like a lot of half
full boxes and just weird stuff like that

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where it's like this could be packed
more tightly and more efficiently. So so

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I did that work and in the
process found a box that like, I

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just wasn't even you know, I'd
been missing this stuff for years, but

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I found my two cdxes. You
did, I did awesome. I bought

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three cdxes. Yeah, those those
are They're intact. They were like inbox

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though, Oh no, no,
no, no, no, no,

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second and sell them in a box. I bought them from the Sega fire

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sale. Wait. Yeah, holy
shit that they had at Townsend. Yeah

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no, but wait it was all
loose. Yeah, holy, oh my

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god, they were selling loose cdxes
here I am finding out twelve years later,

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Like I've rude that day all this
time that I wasn't there for that,

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and now I find out. None
of it was like new in box.

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So a lot of a lot of
the software was new in box,

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and all the Dreamcast era stuff was
new in box. But yeah, the

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cdxes were just loose. I did
not loose consoles with power I think,

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maybe not even power, but it
was you know, there were twenty bucks,

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it worth a bit more than probably
would have still bought one. And

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my Jaguar was in there as well, with a couple of controllers and stuff

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like that. So it's like I
was finally finding some of the stuff that

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I knew I had but just hadn't
looked through a lot of these boxes in

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you know, in ten years or
more. Where were those boxes my garage?

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Did you hook any of that stuff
up? No? See how it

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is like is it is that a
remotely temperature controlled and virol? Like is

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it safe to store? Would be
fine? Okay? All that stuff should

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be fun, okay. And it
was surrounded by papers and all kinds of

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other crap too, so it was
relatively insulated from whatever, so it does

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not get that damp out there at
all, So they should be fun.

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Yeah. So those were kind of
the big fines I think was finally finding

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that box full of stuff. But
it was just like this weird like here's

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all this paperwork from two thousand and
one when I went to Space World.

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Uh, and it was like here's
like the Nintendo GameCube guide from you know,

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that year of Space World, and
like this Smash Brothers fan and you

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know, just like all types of
weird stuff from that. That was actually

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a really weird year because I went
to that was you know, back when

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there was a Space World, and
I think that was the year that there

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were there were still two TGSS.
So I think I went to Japan three

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times that year, and then that
was also the year that I went to

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ECTS. So I found and I
had no explanation for this, but I

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found a burger King receipt from that
September ninth, two thousand and one.

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There like little time when I was
in London buying burger King. Wow.

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Uh. And then flew back either
that day or the t So you were

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back by the time, Yes,
I was back. I was. I

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was home for nine to eleven and
then was home for less than a month

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and then turned around and went back
to Japan. Had a very different airport

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experience. I'm sure absolutely. Man. Yeah, Well, it's funny because

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I remember I remember specifically that trip
to London like there was a weird like

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it felt like, you know,
there were no garbage cans anywhere in Heathrow

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because they because people kept putting bombs
in garbage cans or that was the fear

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anyway, I guess. And you
know they were asking all these questions like,

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hey, did you have any electronics
service to while you were here,

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because apparently they were worried that people
would insert bombs into your broken clock radio

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and fly back with it, so
like that was a question. And I

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remember flying out going like, man, the rest of the world is crazy

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with the terrorism. Huh good old
US of Oh wait yeah, And so

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like when when nine to eleven happened, there was definitely like this feeling of

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like, Okay, now you know, the concerns of the rest of the

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world have finally hit here and and
yeah it was a really weird but the

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end. Yeah. Then like less
than a month later, I was,

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you know, back on a plane
flying internationally and stuff like that, Like

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it wasn't they hadn't instituted a lot
of the stuff that still like holds true

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to this day. That wasn't your
airsoft year, was it? No?

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No, No, that was no
I was there for problem. No.

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I well after I guess, I
don't know if it was the same year.

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You might baby, you had multiple, multiple years bringing airsoft guns back

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into the US. Wiley had one
of those years, but it was in

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two thousand and three, and flying
out of Japan was not a probable In

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Japan. They were just like whatever
I had that, bring your toy guns

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wherever had that that It wasn't all
that all black forty five with a silencer.

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This is this the solid snake.
It's your solid gun. Yeah.

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Did they just have premium like you
know, airsoft stuff over there? Yes,

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okay, yeah, Tokyo mouse.
It's where it's where most of it

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comes from. It's just when you
get it here. They've painted the barrels

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orange and like this this was indistinguishable
from the real thing. And like they

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took it out of the suitcase as
I was leaving Japan's about the best.

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It's like they just like took it
out and looked at it and stuck it

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right back in and just waved me
on like yeah. All the other Americans

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in line are like, uh yeah, that was That was my experience.

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If like, you know, they're
pulling an M four or an MP five

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out of luggage and holding it up, looking at it and putting it back

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in and then turning around and seeing
like all these people behind just going like,

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oh what the fuck? Was just
the best? It was just the

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best. And then yeah, I
don't know, like I don't know what

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we were, you know, they're
they're just cool. I don't know.

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We used them as prop guns and
a couple of dumb videos we shot.

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Actually, I think there's one.
There is one giant bomb video, exactly

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one Giant bomb video that features one
of those Airsoft comes. At this point,

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I would be afraid to leave the
house with that thing. I can

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see that. It's I mean,
they're it's a very real looking. Yeah,

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I bought. I bought a Desert
Eagle. I got two two nine

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millimeters. I wanted matching ones so
I could do you know some Max Payne

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John Wue business. Did they have
the same kind of like weight and haf

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No, not quite. That's that's
you get up bottom. You can tell.

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You know, they're ye plastic.
You know there's metal parts, but

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you know you can still you can
get metal ones. But yeah, yeah,

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they definitely, Yeah they're those get
way more expensive. But it's really

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just the lack of coloration on them
that makes them so scary. And they

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are licensed replicas, you know,
they are replica weapons. You know,

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it's not just like, hey,
this thing sort of looks like a Desert

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Eagles, Like, no, if
you look at it, it's Desert Eagles.

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It's Israel right there on it.
Yeah, so it's yeah, they're

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you know, they're making MP five
s D fours with the Navy trigger and

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all that, you know, all
this other dumb ships. It's full on

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like gun fetishism, yeah type stuff, and they can you bring those too,

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like an air soft range then in
that case or would it have to

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have like the orange tip. I
don't know. In the US people might

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be weird about it. I don't
know, like different places are probably have

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different rules about how you shoot that
stuff whatever. I was never clear what

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you're supposed to do with their soft
like what like you people can say like

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paintball, okay, And in Japan
there's definitely like his we went to that

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one store and they have like tack
vests and just like all this stuff that's

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just like it might as well be
real stuff because you're fitting real sized reponry

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into them. Like it's all just
I don't know, it's military cosplay.

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And then and then then my understanding
is that you know, they they play

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it like it was paintball, only
there's no paint, so it's I guess

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it's more about even about the ones
though even more on. Yeah, yeah,

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I'm even more honor bound than paintball
because there's nothing to wipe off if

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you want to fake. It's it's
always weird thing to me because like they

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don't really pellets don't really have the
velocity to be useful in a range setting,

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you know, right, But yeah, yeah, I mean I guess

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you could get targets that they would
work on, but like it just it

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doesn't seem like something you would ever
actually want to shoot really, Like it

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was just kind of fun to look
at. They're really fun to shoot because

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like that that MP five I got, it's full auto, so you just

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load it full and let's go,
and you're just like shooting. I bought

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a tracer kit for it. It's
a replacement, so it's two it's two

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parts. It's a it's it's pellets
that are I guess a radiate not a

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radiate luminescent. Oh are they glowing
the dark? Yeah, they're glowing the

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dark pellets. And then a silencer
attachment that has a UV flash whenever anything

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passes through, so as the pellets
passed through, the barrel flashes it,

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which is enough to get it to
glow. So at night you see the

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tracer. Wow. Is this the
fucking coolest shit? The mod Wow?

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But yeah, I don't know.
There was that that year that we discovered

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that airsoft guns existed because we didn't
even know, Like we were at TGS.

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It was like me an ike and
a mirror and Ryan McDonald. I

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think that may might have just been
us. We were over there for I

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want to say, an arcade show
or something like that and whatever we were

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there for. Next to the convention
center, there was another convention hall that

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was having like a toy xpok and
we went in there and it was just

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like it was all this like cool
you know, remote control this and that

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and near some transformers near this,
and then you turn around like there's a

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shooting range and they have CDs hanging
from as targets and they're sitting there shooting

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these guns and breaking CDs with it. And we shot a few there and

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took some pictures of us brandishing fake
firearms. They're looking real cool. And

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then immediately we're like, wait,
they just sell they just sell this.

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You can just go to a store
and buy Well, we should probably find

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a place and like immediately thinking like
oh, there's no way we're gonna be

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able to find a place that sells
these, and then just like oh,

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third floor of the Yodobashi Camera,
you know, or whatever. Toy store

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or something like that. It's like, oh, it's the gun floor,

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and then we bought guns and then
packed them for the rest of the trip

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like in our waistbands, like like
just totally fucking idiots. Yeah, weird,

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yes, wow, walking around strapped. It was stupid. It was

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real stupid, but it was Japan, so like you know, they you

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know, we ran around a public
park shooting those guns at each other,

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and people walking by didn't look and
go, oh, no guns. They

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looked at them, went oh airsoft
idiots and kept moving. So you know,

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it was just, you know,
it was just such a different thing

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here for simpler times. Yeah,
yeah, a lot simpler. I mean

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now, like you know, you
could any one of those guns I bought.

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You could easily rob a liquor store
with it. Sure, you could

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rob all kinds of stuff with you. Could you could die because of I

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mean whatever. I mean. Plenty
of guns that look way worse than those

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have led to insanely tragic scenarios.
These things are like movie prop worthy,

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Like the I saw it with Norm
Chan from test It was saying that you

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can see that the blaster that Han
Solo has on the new Star Wars poster

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has like air soft gas hole on
the bottom show that like you know,

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so like these are good. Yeah, these are like really good replica.

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Well like you know, the ones
I was getting, they were gas powered

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and had gas blowbacks, so the
slide moves back when you pull the trigger,

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and it's they're real cool, but
they're real fucked up. They're real

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fucked up. It was a couple
hundred bucks for a a good like a

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high like a for those gas blowback
pistols and are like a really good rifle.

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But you could go way more expensive
than that. And and this is

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those things started showing up at TGS
because Capcom would always Capcom would make replicas

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of the Devilment cry guns and resideval
and stuff like that. So you would

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see those behind glass at their booth
where you know, because like they sell

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a bunch of shit at TGS,
so they're like their goods booth would have

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those guns. They're just on display. Yeah, So so those would turn

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up at TGS as well. And
and yeah, we went through a few

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years of going of like right before
the trip, right before TGS came around,

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looking at catalogs, trying to figure
out what was new and going like

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oh, we need to get one
of those. There. There was one

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store in Achaiabra that was like up
the street and around the corner, like

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we knew exactly where it was.
It was like it just devoted to just

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strictly air Soft. Was it was
the one kind of down at the far

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ends left and it's up the street
a little bit, and it's across the

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street from the g front yes,
uh yeah. And and they had not

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only all the guns, but also
all the tack vests and all the like

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the gear to go with it,
helmets and just like full on military fetish

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costplay, all the weird shit you
want for that stuff. I assume that's

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Tier one. Yeah, exactly want
to be a Tier one, a Tier

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one Airsoft operative that's in the store. You gotta grow your own beard though,

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yeah, I know they don't sell
the beards unfortunately. Man video games

407
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:33.279
whatever, starting Airsoft your site for
Airsoft. No. I got way into

408
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.680
reading about Airsoft guns on the internet
for like a good long time after that,

409
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.279
I'm sure it's out there, and
then just more the more and more

410
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.480
stuff I read about it, it
was like it was like, you know,

411
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.240
these people are taking it to a
level that I'm not interested in It's

412
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.279
just like they want to dress up
and run around and take pictures of themselves,

413
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.039
and I was like, I just
think they look cool. I could

414
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:53.680
see it very quickly wrapping back around
to being super ridiculous and like maybe a

415
00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:57.559
little embarrassing depending on how serious leads. I guess, yeah, yeah it

416
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.000
was. It was the costplay was
like the it was the like wearing gear.

417
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:03.119
That's where I dropped drew. The
line was like, oh, these

418
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.400
are weird, realistic looking guns that
you could really hurt somebody with. I

419
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.720
live with someone, and she pulled
it on someone, uh and shot him

420
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:18.680
a bunch of times. Also he
had been harassing her. Oh anyway,

421
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:25.400
so it was pretty funny. Super
fucked up, yeah, but pretty funny.

422
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.279
Sure you ever hear of a real
action marker. It's like a paintball

423
00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.480
gun that looks like oh yeah four
yes, yeah, like smaller caliber paintballs,

424
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.680
right, they're not quite the BB
size of Arosoft that like in between

425
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.359
somewhere, so you can like load
a magazine of paintballs and shoot it out

426
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.440
of a thing that looks like an
M four because most paintball guns look nothing

427
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.720
like actual firearms. Right, Yeah, like they just look like a bunch

428
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.920
of weird looks like can fall out
pipe rife totally a bunch of tubing machine

429
00:26:52.000 --> 00:27:00.119
together or whatever. Yeah, for
painting cows. Yeah sounds fun. Well

430
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.079
what were we here to talk about? Oh? I don't know. Yeah,

431
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.200
that's yeah, I don't know.
I didn't fake shooting. Sure video

432
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:08.960
games could class Okay, yeah,
fair, I'll take that. That's a

433
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:15.759
decent segue. Yeah, from fake
guns to faker guns, let's talk about

434
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:22.119
video games. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that was making me crazy

435
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.200
because I knew I bought them,
and I knew I think I bought three

436
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:30.160
of them and then sold one at
cost to a friend of mine. And

437
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.200
then so I was like, I
know I have two of these somewhere.

438
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.680
Someone fucking steal them. Someone would
have stole them, would I mean,

439
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.240
they're small enough to steal, yeah, exactly, And those things walk away

440
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.960
For people who don't know, the
CDX is just a genesis and sake a

441
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.480
CD in one, right, yeah, And it's like it's not much bigger

442
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.160
than a portable CD player, so
it's you know, it's pretty small,

443
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.039
but it didn't have any other stuff, right, like two built in no

444
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.160
extra. In fact, they told
they tell you to not hook a three

445
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.000
d X up to it. You
can, you totally can. Why but

446
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:59.039
it was one of those things where
like you know, the the FCC regulations

447
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.079
about interviews and shielding or such that
they had to say, oh, no,

448
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.119
use Also you couldn't the lid of
the CD player would not open all

449
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.519
the way if you had a thirty
two X plugged into that thing. But

450
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.640
you could totally do it. Yeah. I don't know what I do with

451
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.599
them, but I found him that's
nice. Look at them. Yeah,

452
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:19.759
I look at them both and went
fucking finely and then set them in a

453
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.920
different box every couple of years,
take about a look at him for five

454
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.559
minutes and put back Yeah. Basically, yeah, yeah I did that.

455
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:32.079
I you know, like so it
was so that let me get these two

456
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:37.279
very tall stacks of all my original
Xbox, all my PS two GameCube,

457
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:42.440
we most of my PS one,
most of my Dreamcast stuff, and a

458
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:47.160
couple of boxes Xbox three sixty games
out into the garage, freeing up more

459
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.079
space in that room. Uh you
know, just kind of like in this

460
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.799
processors just like cleaning up, getting
things cataloged, and so you know,

461
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:57.559
doing what I did with by reorganizing
all those boxes helps me kind of stave

462
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:03.680
off the process of actually sorting that
stuff and getting it neatly packed for you

463
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:10.440
know, another chunk of time.
But yeah, I've got a lot of

464
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:15.559
stuff, a lot of really weird
stuff that'll happen. Yeah, best kind

465
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:21.640
of stuff. Yeah. I saw
that Acarina of Time press release that you

466
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.079
tweeted the photo of it. Look
that piece of paper looked as crisp as

467
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:26.400
the day it was printed. Yeah, it was. It was surprised that

468
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.759
there's an almost a twenty year old
press. Yeah, it's so. It's

469
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.680
it was a little binder that says
no you know, legend of zelt Active

470
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.559
Time that a bomb says November nineteen
ninety eight, and then you open it

471
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.000
up. It asked like three press
releases about Zelda in it, and then

472
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:42.559
just like a blank, like uh, stack of paper that just says Zelda

473
00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:47.240
Explorations at the top, and it's
got this little, you know, kind

474
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.319
of the notes section. Yeah,
it's basically like a place for you.

475
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.160
It's like a it's a whole big
notepad. It's like fifty sheets of paper.

476
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.279
And then I'll say Zelda explorations at
the top, like super cheesy,

477
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.079
slap together looking thing. It's not
like it doesn't have a picture of link

478
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:00.960
on it or anything. It's like
this, you know, they went to

479
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.039
Kinkos and got this thing made because
it's Nintendo of America or something. Draw

480
00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.599
your map. Yeah, yeah,
totally. And I assume that that must

481
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.839
have been sent out alongside review copies
of the game. I don't know for

482
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.960
sure, but but that's that's my
guess. I also found Yeah, so

483
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.319
I found like a bunch of like
Space World two thousand and one, uh,

484
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:26.359
like pamphlets and stuff that from stuff
that was there, I found a

485
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:33.839
PlayStation one launch press kit, like
put the Polygon man on the front and

486
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.119
press releases in there saying like the
launch of the PlayStation blah blah blah and

487
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.319
all this other stuff. That's kind
of cool. They should bring back Polygon

488
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:48.160
many Yeah, was he not in
PlayStation All Stars? I think he might.

489
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.240
It wasn't even like a boss was
he was he the final boss of

490
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.359
PlayStation All Stars? Like, I
that was a good call. I definitely

491
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.119
played that game. But yeah,
same here. I don't boy, maybe

492
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.920
not the best venue for that guy
to appear, but I mean nothing about

493
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.440
game was for anything. Somebody was
thinking about him. Yeah, uh yeah,

494
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.599
yeah they should. I still have
the T shirt that they gave out

495
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.759
that year with Polygon Man on the
front of it somewhere. Man, it

496
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.759
feels like a long time ago.
It kind of was. Yeah, I

497
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.839
mean that was ninety five. Yeah, but then again, last week feels

498
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.079
like a long time ago. Yeah. What have you guys been playing since

499
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:26.680
then? Since last week? Same
stuff? Yeah? Still, yeah,

500
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.640
I had I had a nice two
hour long session of about five minutes,

501
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.039
you know, burst at a time. Okay, so it's like five minutes

502
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.160
a tomb rater, I have to
pause for baby, the child, have

503
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.400
five minutes a baby, five more
minutes of tom right. So so I

504
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:45.079
don't know where the hell I am
like in the story exactly. I don't.

505
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.559
I can't like really speak about the
pacing of that game because I'm breaking

506
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:51.519
it up into really small chunks but
little too disjointed for that. Yeah,

507
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:52.559
but I talked to you a little
bit earlier today, and it seems like

508
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.599
I'm getting pretty close. I have
already forgotten where you said you were.

509
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.160
Yes, okay, you are getting
there. Yeah you're an EPCOT Yeah,

510
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.920
yeah, I went to your game. Can you try all the different sodas

511
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:08.200
of the world. That game goes
some weird places. So in Atlanta there's

512
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:14.079
a there's a coke museum, and
they've got various coke products, and there's

513
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:15.759
one like and I forgot the name
of it, but is it is the

514
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.960
worst fucking thing that you've ever taken? Yeah, it's because that's they have

515
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.440
that at Epcot. Also, I
I've heard people talk about discuss what you're

516
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.480
talking about. So I love taking
people there and it's like, oh,

517
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.400
yeah, yeah, here try this
and like German or something, the German

518
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.759
coke or if anybody knows, just
yourself, Yeah, don't, don't,

519
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:43.680
don't, don't warrant anyone. Where
the hell was I tumb ratert playing tub

520
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.039
Raters? Well, yeah, a
little bit. Yeah, Yeah, I

521
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:50.880
haven't played much more than the intro
okay, first hour or so. Yeah,

522
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:52.240
I had some I like it.
Yeah, I had some real real

523
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.880
badass like set piece moments. You
know, there's there's times when you're in

524
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.720
the open world stuff and you're just
like, Okay, this is awesome.

525
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.480
I have I've got all these cool
things to do, but you know,

526
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.519
I need a little more action sometimes
and and I was starting to get that

527
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.240
little fatigue. I'm like, all
right, something's got to happen, and

528
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:13.680
then it and now I'm like,
okay, I'm back in. I am

529
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.039
loving tumb Rader. Yeah a lot. It's a great game. Yeah,

530
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.680
you're right, it's very good about
the rising and falling in the action.

531
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.559
You know. Sure, it's like
I want to just go dick around and

532
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.359
do some challenges for the next hour. Yeah, and like that open world

533
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.319
stuff is like compelling. Yeah,
it's like I actually want to go out

534
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:30.000
and do all this totally. I
I it's maybe an unpopular opinion, but

535
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.279
I hope they go further with that
stuff in the next one. Yeah,

536
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:35.279
aybe differentiate it. Yes, you
know, it seems like they've struck a

537
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.200
pretty good balance. Yeah. Yeah, and you know next iteration will just

538
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.440
be even better. Probably. Also
try it out Soma finally really yeah,

539
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.400
just like an hour or something like
that. I'm really liking that game.

540
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:51.680
You and I both started Soma randomly
at the same time. I bought it

541
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:52.920
this weekend. Well, I played
that. I think I played the first

542
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:59.119
like twenty minutes of it at packs. It was really intrigued. Did you

543
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:06.039
do the present day stuff. No, okay, that game starts in the

544
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.800
present day. Okay, so maybe
I was jumped for Is that game a

545
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:15.960
first person horror game like a streaming
on YouTube and face Cam's not like that.

546
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:22.440
Yeah, there's absolutely not jump scared
type stuff. It's almost more stealthy,

547
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.760
like you see the enemies, you
need to avoid them, you need

548
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.719
to make sure they don't see you. Like, it's not like it's not

549
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.840
like there are a bunch of dangers
that you don't see coming or something like

550
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.679
if you hear you can hear the
enemies like stomping their way down the hall

551
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.639
from Yeah, it's yeah, I
would say it's more first person adventure game

552
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.480
than anything like. It is definitely
not a Five Nights of Freddie's style,

553
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.800
like you know, Webcam in the
corner freak out every time something jump scares

554
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.920
you. It's it's definitely more cerebral
than that cool atmosphere. Yeah, yeah,

555
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.639
did you have deepened? I don't
know how much you want to say,

556
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.800
really, Like, I played like
maybe an hour, so I got

557
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.119
the through the real world stuff and
then you know, the underwater stuff happens.

558
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.400
Okay, so I got there and
a few rooms in that Okay,

559
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.360
Yeah, yeah, you're yeah,
I'm okay. Did you get out in

560
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.840
the water at all? No,
Okay, I'm a little further than you.

561
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.159
Then. I barely know what's going
on in that game. I'm just

562
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.960
starting to like sort of start guessing
at what I think the twists are going

563
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.920
to be and stuff like that.
But you know you asked Alex about it.

564
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.119
Yeah, yes, so I yeah, I mentioned Alex what I thought

565
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.360
the twist was going to be,
which seems super obvious, and he was

566
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.119
like, yeah, that's not really
the thing, or like they'd go like

567
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.000
they kind of wrap that up,
but then they go places with that idea

568
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.320
that you don't expect or something like
that. So, like the stuff I'm

569
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:44.119
seeing so far is that, like
there there's some weird uh kind of ruminations

570
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.960
on, like what identity might mean
in a world where like human consciousness could

571
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:52.079
be embedded in a robot. Yeah, but then the consciousness might not be

572
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.519
aware of that fact. Okay,
if that makes sense. Sure, I

573
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.760
guess what if what if they put
your brain in a robot but you didn't

574
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.920
know you were a robot. I'm
seeing nothing. I don't know. I'm

575
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.679
awesome, I'm seeing some some little
hints of that here and there, which

576
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.840
seems super cool, but I didn't
get super deep into that either. So

577
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.280
what are you guys playing on PC? Yeah? Okay, yeah, how's

578
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.079
it run? It's mostly fine.
I've been having some pretty ugly stuttering when

579
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:16.800
I'm moving like new areas for a
good minute or two as I kind of

580
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.519
walk around like it's loading everything in
and then it smooths out. It's out

581
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.119
on PS four as well. Sounds
right, Yeah, the PC here as

582
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.119
well. Yeah, I've got some
weird So I'm playing it on like you

583
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.760
know, big Boy TV, the
living room TV, and I've got some

584
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.119
weird like frame tearing, and I
would notice I would like metal gear solid

585
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.960
as well, Like I wonder if
I need to switch my TV to like

586
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.440
straight up fifty nine hurts or something, or like the video card output to

587
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.719
like fifty nine hurts. I don't
know, check your check your gin locket.

588
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.280
Yeah, it's it's driving me.
Is it different from the hitching that

589
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:50.679
we're getting in metal gear scaling?
Yeah definitely, okay, Yeah, this

590
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.159
is just like it. It seems
like frame tearing, like you know,

591
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.079
almost like a v sync type thing, but not quite you know, where

592
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.360
this that's like a straight line.
This is kind of like a blocky line

593
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.239
that almost like a scan line type
thing that kind of goes from the bottom

594
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.719
to the top. Weird. If
anybody knows, let me know. It'll

595
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:12.239
gar scan lines. Yeah, it's
waiting for somebody to make that joke.

596
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.719
Didn't think it'd be you. Hey
that patch came out for Metal Yeah wait,

597
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.440
oh is it out yet? I
don't know. I've heard about him

598
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.400
just five Yeah, because there's a
there's a you know, you lose a

599
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.920
buddy at some point, right,
yes, okay, yes, that was

600
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.760
I think that was a couple of
weeks ago. Actually is that out?

601
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:29.800
Yes, okay, I gotta do
that. Yes, there is a way

602
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.239
to get back the buddy that you
lose in that game. Yeah, I

603
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:39.239
won't say anymore. You'll see,
you'll get there. D Walker becomes sentientin

604
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.920
that's true. He doesn't know he
he doesn't know he's robot. Goes have

605
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:46.559
to start his out do it.
That's that's how that works. You can

606
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.960
bring d Walker back. Okay,
don't worry, are you? Are you

607
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.760
guys just in like full on kind
of game of the year preparation mode unless

608
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:59.119
at this point just like touch every
game that you possibly can for some period

609
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:00.079
of time. Yeah, I've got
a few. I've got Dana Soma,

610
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.599
Tales from the Borderlandes I want to
touch. Yes, people leaving about I

611
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.800
think those are the three main ones, and then just get through as much

612
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.840
of the Wincher as possible. I've
touched the class concentration for the Commodo sixty

613
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.639
four over the weekend, so important. I'm prepped on that will be a

614
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:17.079
hot topic next week. I'm sure. I'm hoping you're going to be the

615
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.559
voice of that one. We really
need a chance. Yeah, I've fully

616
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.920
intend to go to bat for the
entire share data line of game show games

617
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.599
on sixty four really is the best
new the best debut of the year,

618
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:31.360
I think, the best original game
of the year. Yeah, absolutely,

619
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:36.960
and best game based on a game
show also a contentious category. Oh huge,

620
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:42.719
this you're looking to be Yeah,
yeah, I've been been playing stuff

621
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.079
here and there. I've not gotten
into the tumb rater yet, but I

622
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.320
really want to start it give a
shot. So I'm kind of concerned because

623
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:51.280
you you weren't real hot on the
first one, right, disliked it straight?

624
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.079
I liked it straight? Up.
Yeah, this is a lot more

625
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.559
of that game a little bit.
I think it's cut better. It's like,

626
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.960
yeah, the balance is way better. Like so, I will say

627
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.519
the first like ten fifteen minutes of
it are very much like push up on

628
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.519
the stick and hit the X button
at the right times where you die kind

629
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.559
of stuff. But like I feel
like that's just there to wow you real

630
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.519
fast, like kind of get it
out of the way, and it's like,

631
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.000
yeah, of course you got to
have your big spectacle, sure at

632
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.199
the beginning of the game, but
like it goes away very quickly. Yeah,

633
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.280
if you get through that intro in
like ten minutes and then like you're

634
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.360
just raiding tombs after that, right, yeah, but in those Yeah,

635
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.159
but the tombs themselves, they're kind
of touch and go. I don't really

636
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.239
I think so because someone more it's
super easy. Well yeah, you're expecting

637
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:32.000
a little bit more, but it's
like it's one puzzle and it's like,

638
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.840
Okay, you get your one and
you're out. They're pretty quick, they're

639
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:37.960
they're fairly bite size. But I
feel like the game strikes a really good

640
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.880
balance. But yeah, I don't
know. I installed Assassin's Creeds. I

641
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.320
I didn't get into it yet,
but I'm just like part of me,

642
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.159
just like, Okay, I'm gonna
like get some of this stuff ready for

643
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:51.440
the Thanksgiving break, Yeah, to
get through some some chunks of that,

644
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:54.679
and I play some assassins, Yeah, play some tomb right, do a

645
00:39:54.679 --> 00:40:00.159
little more witching. Yeah, you
guys doing any Halo in I reviewed Halo

646
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.679
so yeah, yeah, oh no, okay, that's curious. I'd like

647
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.159
to play more of the multiplayer.
It's just kind of it's it's a very

648
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.320
low priority with like eight other games
I need to trial. They put out

649
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:14.440
their first pack, the Big Team
Battle. I think that's yeah really,

650
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.400
and they've added maps to go along
with that. Okay, that's my favorite

651
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.119
mode. Yeah, so that is
in there. It's it's I believe it's

652
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.920
eight on eight, which is that
smaller than Big Team Battle used to be,

653
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.519
That's what I thought. Yeah,
it's still twice the size of the

654
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:36.880
standard battles in Halo five, though
smaller than war Zone I guess. Yeah.

655
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.039
And they've added new wreck cards and
armor and stuff along with this as

656
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.079
well. Yeah. I have not
played in the wild Halo multiplayer yet.

657
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.960
It's a bunch of pre released stuff, so yeah, yeah, I kind

658
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:51.599
of need to get in there.
Yeah, so I saw they put that

659
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.119
stuff out, but I'm you know, it's I don't have a I don't

660
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:58.559
have a multiplayer shooter this year at
all. Really like I like Halo five,

661
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.119
but it's not in something that I
feel like drawn to kind of return

662
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:07.199
to Black Ops three and Black Ops
three I think is just you know whatever.

663
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.039
Uh. I tried going back to
Black Ops three a couple of times.

664
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.320
It was just like, I'm not
doing it. No, Wow,

665
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.639
it's man, just the map design, the way that unlocks, structured,

666
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.159
the yeah, just top to bottom, just kind of boring. I gotta

667
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.920
clear out space on your schedule for
Battlefront. I am all the way done

668
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.280
with battle Front. Man, that
was quick, Jeff. Why you're done

669
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:37.280
with battle Front? It's I don't
I'm not enjoying it, Okay, that's

670
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.119
that's a reason. It's a big
part of it. Yea, it's fine.

671
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.840
Uh. And and you know,
like there's like the shooting is all

672
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.639
right, you know, I think
it looks great and all this stuff,

673
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.079
but I just the action feels so
shallow to me, uh that I just

674
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.559
don't want to keep playing it.
I'm not invested enough in the setting.

675
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.000
Yeah, I think that that has
to be a key part of it.

676
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:04.880
And a lot of the larger modes
are just not things that I want to

677
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.679
play. So for me, it's
like the smaller modes of the ones I'm

678
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.880
going to gravitate towards, and those
are just kind of boring. And then

679
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.320
on top of all that, the
progression, like the unlocked stuff is not

680
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.639
compelling, so like that there's no
like carried on a stick in the progression

681
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.679
end of it, but also just
like the core of it is not much

682
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.840
fun either. Yeah, I mean
in terms of like the stuff like new

683
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.559
new gear rolls out too slowly or
the new gear it's not is not especially

684
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.719
interesting from from what I've played of
it. And then and seeing you know,

685
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.320
Dan had leveled up higher and unlocked
some more of that stuff. There

686
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.239
was some more stuff that they had
in the beta, and all that sort

687
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.119
of stuff, like it's just the
core shooting in map design and all that

688
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.920
sort of stuff is just not good
enough for me to want to stick with

689
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.639
it. And I don't care enough
about Star Wars for that to like help.

690
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.719
But I think that has to carry
like a good portion of that game.

691
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.280
I think for what I've seen.
That's that's I think that, you

692
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:58.360
know, that would go a long
way with the right kind of person.

693
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.440
I guess I've been playing a little
bit here and there, and like I

694
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.920
won't a lot like this. I
feel embarrassed to even admit this, but

695
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.679
like the first couple of hours,
I've very much flashed back to like the

696
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:14.559
night that I downloaded the Dark Forces
demo from some bbs and like just fetishized

697
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.679
the act of like raising that blaster
and shooting it at things, you know,

698
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.320
like like like forget what I'm shooting
it at, or like what the

699
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:23.159
challenges are that I'm facing, or
what any of these other mechanics are.

700
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:28.760
Like literally just the look and feel
of shooting that gun is enough for me

701
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.280
to be happy about this. Yeah, but I would also say, you

702
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.599
know, I mean obviously, like
you know, times have changed and standards

703
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:36.440
have changed, blah, but Dark
Forces is a better game the battle yeah,

704
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:44.320
because I mean it has a campaign. Yeah, that's that's the thing.

705
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:45.440
It's like, you know, the
actual control and you know they've made

706
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.280
the act of firing those weapons fun
enough and that sort of stuff. But

707
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.719
you know it's it's yeah, if
if they had actually built a full on

708
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.559
campaign. I think that would have
done well for you know, it did

709
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:58.320
have a campaign. What's that Star
Wars battle Front? Yeah, so I

710
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.679
yes, from the x Box Yeah, you're out, Jeff on Friday.

711
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.079
But Drew played original battle Front on
upf on Friday, and I had never

712
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.519
seen that game up close before,
and I was sitting there watching you play

713
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.920
that and just going like, why
didn't they just do this? Yes,

714
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.599
like why didn't they just put because
correct me if I'm wrong, Like that

715
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.800
campaign and in that game is just
a bunch of multiplayer matches with AI,

716
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.679
right, Yeah, when you're on
it, when you're on the ground shooting

717
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.360
it stuff, it's it's the same
as what you would be doing online.

718
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.440
Right there was like yeah, but
basically a thin strategic film layered over multiplayer

719
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.920
maps. But at least it's something
because because there's that, because yeah,

720
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:37.440
like you're and they've got they've got
like one player and two player like co

721
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.400
op versus AI modes in the new
battle he's talking about is like in and

722
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.639
you know, you can elaborate on
this, but like there's like an aspect

723
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.280
of like taking planets. There's like
territory control in Battlefront where you're like,

724
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.400
like you you go down to fight
a couple missions in the interest of claiming

725
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.440
that planet for your for your faction, right, and then that that planet

726
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:00.920
will then give you bonuses in your
next battle that you to choose from like

727
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.679
a map of the Solar System.
Yeah, Like while we were while you

728
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.960
were playing at somebody in chat was
saying, like, it's possible to blow

729
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:07.800
up planets in that strategic mode and
yeah, stuff like that. Like like

730
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.519
even like that, even something like
that would have added a whole lot of

731
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.800
like I hate to use the word
value because it sounds so like nineties video

732
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.480
game review, but like it would
have it would have fleshed that package out.

733
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.039
Yeah, and in a way that
it needs. That maybe would have

734
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:25.760
been enough because it's like they have
some amount of bot Ai in there,

735
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.559
right and that sort of stuff.
I mean, you know they could have.

736
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:30.639
I mean, they could have done
a lot of things right, but

737
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.599
they didn't. They chose to focus
on you know what they chose to focus

738
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.360
on, and I think that's a
really thin game. And I just you

739
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:38.880
know, I got I got a
few hours in and was just like,

740
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.039
you know, this is well made, but I just I have I have

741
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.920
no desire to play any more matches
of any of these modes. Yeah,

742
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.079
I would generally agree with that and
got out of it. You know,

743
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.800
it's been thin as the word because
you're right, like what it does play

744
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:55.840
really well? Yeah, I feel
like like pointing and shooting it stuff like

745
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.599
I kind of I don't understand why
they didn't feel like they could just like

746
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.639
animate the gun coming up to your
face when you aimed on the sites though,

747
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:05.360
Like, I don't know why they
have to go to that weird dissolve

748
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.119
into zoom in mode. Is that
is that a throwback to old Battlefront or

749
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.440
I don't know, is there some
reason that you can't No, not even

750
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.159
the crosshair isn't like a fix to
the top of the screen. But was

751
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.960
that about a weird choice for sure? But yeah, I don't know.

752
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.000
If I didn't know, if there
was like some weird reason that you can't

753
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.679
show a Star Wars character aiming down
the sites of their weapon or something.

754
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.199
Yeah, I don't I don't really
know, but yeah, it's that that

755
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.599
game is weird, like it tries
to straddle both you know, like wrangle

756
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:35.719
in like casual players and then you
know, also hardcore battlefield dudes, and

757
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.320
I'd sit somewhere in the middle,
and I don't think either. I think

758
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.039
that, you know, it's it's
one of those things where it's like there

759
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.719
are elements of it that should be
cooler than they are. Like I feel

760
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.320
like the hero control stuff should be
a lot cooler than it is. Okay,

761
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.760
you know, it's like because it's
like, oh, luke Skywalker now

762
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.280
and I can sort of block lasers
and with this, and I'm just this

763
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:59.880
kind of overpowered unit and I can
killed Boba Fett with my lightsaber. Bay.

764
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.159
That sounds awesome on paper, that
whole game sounds awesome, But yeah,

765
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.239
like the actual act, I think, you know, the movement with

766
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.239
a lot of the hero units and
stuff like the Emperor with his weird he's

767
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:12.760
a floaty ghost jumps and just like
all that stuff just looks fucking corny,

768
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:19.039
and it's yeah, I think that
stuff just seems like like kind of it

769
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.840
feels like a mod It feels like
someone said, like, man, they

770
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:24.880
should put they should put fucking Looke
Skywalker in this, and then they modit

771
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.519
it in and it's kind of jankie
and you go like, well, at

772
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.559
least they tried uh. And then
the vehicle stuff. I think all the

773
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.559
A wings and tie fighters all that, I think they just fucking controlled terribly,

774
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.400
Like the cameras just it's weird.
You just can't see the ground well

775
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:42.880
enough. So it's like unless you're
in an air to air combat situation where

776
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.320
you're locking onto other targets and stuff
like that. Like it's just not fun

777
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.920
as as like a standalone game,
that's what you're saying, Yeah, as

778
00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.239
as like as like a bonus or
it is like compared to like battle field

779
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.480
vehicles, yeah, which you feel
like you have more control over what you're

780
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.840
doing in them and stuff like that. These just feel like they're all over

781
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:01.639
the place, a little too fast
for the size of the map, Like

782
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:05.199
you're just cruising over shit before you
get a chance to really, like,

783
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.320
you know, try to dive bomb
anyone or anything like that. You know,

784
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.239
obviously, you know you get better
as time goes on, but that

785
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.400
stuff just didn't. It doesn't feel
good. It doesn't feel good at all.

786
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:16.360
So it's like stuff that should be
these like big moments of like oh

787
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.119
man, I've got an X wing, Oh shit, I'm in a tie

788
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.880
fighter. I'm hey, I'm Darth
Vader, Like these things that should be

789
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.679
these like amazing moments instead feel like
they came out of you know, and

790
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.039
instead of feel like, you know, they're they're not done yet, uh

791
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.119
and and they are still need some
some time to smooth those things out.

792
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.159
It's like, oh, the core
of it, you know, you stormtrooper

793
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:45.920
versus generic rebelman firing into each other
is fond and one another. But everything

794
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:51.760
else just feels like not fully cooked
the same. Yeah, Like a lot

795
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:53.679
of the criticism I've seen about that
game is like, especially as it was

796
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:55.760
about to come out, like people
kind of smidily saying like, oh,

797
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.679
it's just a Star Wars skin for
Battlefield, but like it's not. It's

798
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.079
not even that. No, It's
like as I play more stripped down.

799
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.719
Yeah, Like as I play it, I think I think to myself,

800
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.480
like, if they had actually just
done that, yeah, that could be

801
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:12.960
amazing conquest, right, yeah,
because I think Battlefield fans would be really

802
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.840
turned off by how simple this game, right, so absolutely, like like

803
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.039
the like you know, like you
were saying, they trying to treat the

804
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.400
vehicles just like a power up scenario. It's opposed to like having the vehicles

805
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.280
physically exist in the map and being
something you can run up to and interact

806
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:27.800
with. It's messed up because there
are literally X wings on some of the

807
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:29.880
maps you can walk up to and
look at. Yeah, but you can't,

808
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.360
you know, but you can't get
in, right. But I mean,

809
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.280
if they if they use the literal
battlefield template of just like spawning vehicles

810
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.519
in like have them everywhere, just
like these massive battles with like all this

811
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.280
freedom, that would have been way
more complicated for the type of person they're

812
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.480
trying to reach. Like they're not
trying to speak to the battlefield audience because

813
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.360
those people, you know, are
are a little, let's say a little

814
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:54.679
more hardcore than you would want to
pitch to. With this big mass market

815
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.400
that's fair, Like they made a
big mass market Star Wars game. That's

816
00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.480
just like, you know, they
wanted it to be super easy that anyone

817
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:07.440
could get into. The aim Assist
is an incredibly generous like they wanted to

818
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.559
make a game that was made more
accessible than than even a Call of Duty

819
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:14.480
is Yeah, I think it feels
like it's sliding into that kind of slot

820
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.880
though, right, like just the
loop of like the kind of the feel

821
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:21.360
of like everything from the respawn time
or to how fast people go down when

822
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.199
you shoot them and stuff like,
like it all feels Call of Duty esque

823
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:27.519
to me a little bit. Yeah, I think so. But it's it's

824
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.440
you know, not quite it's it's
it's still I think, even a little

825
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.599
more kind of generous generous, Like
it's it's a design. I feel like

826
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.239
they were trying to make it accessible, and I feel like at some point

827
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:44.199
they made a game that doesn't actually
appeal to fans of shooters. You know.

828
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.440
It's like, I think the the
ideal fan for that is someone who

829
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:50.199
just wants to see Star Wars stuff
and doesn't really care about the cannon of

830
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:52.000
said Star Wars stuff. They're just
like, look that stormtrooper. Oh man,

831
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.119
that's Han Solo. Look at that
guy. I just want to shoot

832
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:57.320
a blaster. Yeah, totally,
Like if if you know, you just

833
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.320
want to hear the blaster noises and
then occasionally go like, oh man,

834
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.599
I was Darth Vader and you're not
like super picky about what you want out

835
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.920
of shooters and games, then yeah, totally battle run us for you,

836
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.519
which is fate praise yes, right, Like you know, like I said,

837
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.039
once in a while, those elements
are enough to like totally make you

838
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.760
feel sort of takes a while those
things come together in a way that even

839
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:19.559
me, you know, not being
a big Star Wars fan, I'm like,

840
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.400
that's fucking cool. Here. There
are things that happened. You're like,

841
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.480
shit, man, yeah, you
hear stories about people are just like,

842
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.199
oh, I was Luke Skywalker and
I jumped up and cut a fucking

843
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:30.000
tie Fighter and it blew up.
But there was that, all right,

844
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.360
that's cool. There was that vine
floating around like the day before. It

845
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.280
came out of like force, pushing
a stormtrooper off the side of a hill

846
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.000
right into the path of the oncoming
tie Fighter and they both explode. Yeah,

847
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:40.920
and you saw that and you were
just like, oh my god,

848
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:44.920
this could be incredible. But moments
like that are very few few and far

849
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.400
between. Yeah. Generally, it's
like, especially on the larger maps,

850
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.800
it's just like, well, it's
like you're doing the battlefield thing of like

851
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.400
I'm running halfway across this map to
where the action is and oh shit,

852
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:53.840
I shot some people and then I
got shot. Now I'm gonna respond and

853
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.639
run halfway across this map again,
and oh shit. You know, it's

854
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.880
like it's just that over and over
again and a lot in some of the

855
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:01.840
modes, and that's not great.
Yeah, it can be fun, but

856
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.480
yeah, it doesn't have a lot
of staying power man. Yeah, yeah,

857
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.000
it definitely. It seems like a
game that should have been better.

858
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:14.440
Yeah. Well they've got like four
expansion packs scheduled because you can like look

859
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.360
at those on the menu already.
Wonder the way that that gets promoted in

860
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:21.400
game. It's like a top level
menu item like season pass. Yeah,

861
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.159
it's like kind of funky like like
right below the fine mash button. Essentially

862
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.679
is the is the kind of link
to the call to action to go by

863
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:30.519
the season right, and you know
they're adding heroes and maps and stuff like

864
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.599
that, but like I, you
know, I don't think heroes and maps

865
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.000
actually brought in the palette. Yeah. Yeah, it's not what that game

866
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.599
needs. It doesn't need more content, It needs more like design work,

867
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:43.400
like, yeah, it needs it
needs more and more. Yeah. Well,

868
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.199
I think it has a ton of
modes it just needs it just needs

869
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:50.119
tuning or something. The feel of
it is just wrong in a lot of

870
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.519
cases. For as speaking of someone
who plays a lot of console shooters,

871
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.679
Uh, it's it just doesn't appeal
to its more depth, you know,

872
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.840
yeah, yeah, I guess yeah. I'm really curious to see how that

873
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.719
sells it quite well. Yeah,
I don't know. Maybe maybe word of

874
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.639
mouth would would have an impact there. I feel like that's been mixed.

875
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.840
I mean, you definitely see people
that are just like, oh man,

876
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.480
this is everything I ever wanted Star
Wars, Star Wars, star Wars.

877
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.480
And then you see people that are
like this is a lame shooter. They're

878
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:24.559
like, oh right, done with
it. Yeah, well not not all,

879
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:28.760
not all of us have the social
media reach for that to make such

880
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:35.599
an impact, that's true. But
the breaking talking yeah, yes, yeah,

881
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.679
I didn't. Eves did something on
Instagram of a Broken Battlefront said he

882
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:42.840
tried to pay me to say this
game was good, but they ruined Star

883
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.440
Wars. Blaha, should because like
it was this weird, like take a

884
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.519
stand thing from this band. I
didn't even realize is that a dude or

885
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.639
a band? I I haven't.
I don't even so. The guy's name

886
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.519
I think is Benjamin okay, and
I believe the band name is so Yes.

887
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.320
There was just all I know is
there was a Broken Battlefront disc all

888
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.760
over my Twitter feat is Yeah,
that happened at some point over the weekend.

889
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.920
But and yeah, I mean the
only reason I know that name is

890
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:10.320
because they were on the Halo two
soundtracks. Oh okay, yeah, oh

891
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:14.880
wow, we've been around for a
while. Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh

892
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:16.320
Like and that's why I say,
like I was surprised that they were still

893
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.239
together. It is because that's they
seem like they're of that era or something.

894
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:24.559
But yeah, there were some stories
about that that were saying like,

895
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.280
yeah, he's trying to pay people
to say the game is good. It's

896
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:34.679
like, guess what most video game
publishers and makers of products have been doing

897
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:37.239
with celebrities on Twitter four years and
years and years. Yeah, Like,

898
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.159
what what do you think Nicole Ritchie
was doing with Lego Dimensions? Yeah?

899
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.360
You know, what do you think
like Melissa Joan Hard is doing when she's

900
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:52.000
tweeting about liking the WWE. Apparently
she's a legitimately fan. I'm like,

901
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:55.679
what do you think when when they
have the Charlie Sheen is the guest host

902
00:54:55.719 --> 00:55:00.000
of WWE Monday Night Raw and he's
gonna be Lie I tweeting it all day?

903
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.719
What do you think they're trying to
do there? Like this is not

904
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:08.119
widespread. This is the way of
things. The scarier thing is that EA

905
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.960
was so like all over the totem
pole on that thing. They're like,

906
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.400
yeah, the lead singer of Breaking
Benjamin, he's a guy, he's a

907
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.840
tastemaker. We want to get out
there and spread the message of Star Wars

908
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:21.480
Battlefront. They're just they're hitting it
at all levels. Yeah, Like that's

909
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:24.400
maybe the crazier thing. Well,
yeah, it's like a Jerry from Penny

910
00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:28.039
Arcade. Like it reminded me like, yeah, they're price lists of that

911
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.440
stuff out there. You can find
celebrities and the amount of money it requires

912
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:36.519
for them to tweet about your item, and there are FTC regulations that are

913
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.199
now in place. These are real
regulations, I think, not just like

914
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:43.239
you know guidelines that say you're supposed
to disclose them, and you know it's

915
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.360
like hashtag ad there, you know, like like make it clear that these

916
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.360
are ads and all that sort of
stuff, But you know a lot of

917
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.800
people don't, and it's you know, that's the world that we live in

918
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.079
and it has been for that time. So for people to go like,

919
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:59.400
oh, we're blowing the lid off
this EA controversy, it's like no,

920
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:04.159
they're mark team is doing what all
marketing teams do now, and like that's

921
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:12.360
sleazy and fucking weird but hardly new. Yeah uh yeah, but whatever,

922
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:16.000
I don't know that who cares.
Indeed, Battlefront Is doesn't need help one

923
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:19.639
way or the other. It kind
of exists as this middling thing on its

924
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.440
own. It'll probably be fine the
only And they're already talking about a sequel

925
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:25.360
to this game. Yeah jeez,
oh yeah, we're good. We're good.

926
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.000
Back at this bad on this one. Well, I mean, like

927
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.519
it's not the worst foundation to work
from, totally. The Frostbite engine is

928
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.159
it looks at the game looks fucking
incredible, doesn't Yeah, yeah, it

929
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:38.320
looks. It really does staggering and
they've got you know, they've got people

930
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.679
there that have made quality shooters.
Yeah, you know they could, they

931
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.840
could build on this for sure.
Yeah, but like this, this for

932
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:49.760
me is no more than like like
I'm gonna squeeze off a couple of rounds

933
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.960
when I get home before I have
to make dinner or whatever, you know,

934
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.280
like just real casual. I thought
that I thought that it was going

935
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.360
to fill that void for me for
some chunk of time, but that chunk

936
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.079
of time ended up to be an
eve jeez. Okay. So yeah,

937
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.960
So, like I said, I
just I just don't have a shooter.

938
00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.320
Uh. I'm at a point where
I'm kind of trying to I'm thinking about

939
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:13.519
maybe seeing if people are still playing
Advanced Warfare. Wow, huh, I

940
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.719
might be one of those people that
is playing the not latest duty game.

941
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.960
That's how you know you're old,
which is a weird place to be in.

942
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:28.280
Or maybe I'm just gett into Battlefield
hard Line. Yeah. Sure,

943
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.840
that came out this year. That
still counts that. That counts out this

944
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.360
year, out in March. Yeah, it was like a March release,

945
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.800
but a long year, right right? Yeah? After the Order god yeah

946
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.559
yeah, man, we're gonna have
to go back and look back on the

947
00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.159
full year of games at some point, order and have a whole bunch of

948
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:47.960
moments like that, just going like
that came out this year. Wow,

949
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:53.000
let's talk about Oh my god,
the yeah, the Order. Just take

950
00:57:53.039 --> 00:58:00.000
your life off one game release at
a time. Yeah, uh, anybody

951
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:02.840
I was playing anything Crazy. I
got a couple of things I tried link

952
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.320
did you? Oh yeah, yeah, I think I might get one of

953
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.400
those for myself. Really did it
work out. I've heard very mixed things

954
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.440
about people's experience. I mean people
have very mixed network settings. Yeah,

955
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:19.360
I plugged so my Steam link was
plugged into my router with a cable.

956
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:25.559
Okay, as they recommend. My
PC was connected to my wireless network with

957
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.320
a dongle. It is an n
router doing five giga hurts. Okay,

958
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.599
Okay, it seemed to work.
Okay. I tried playing fall Out four

959
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:37.920
with the Steam Controller and I couldn't
figure out where the problem was. But

960
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:43.280
it was registering double inputs. Yeah. Have you had that issue as well?

961
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:45.400
Yeah, I haven't falled out.
Yeah, I haven't had a fixed

962
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.480
for it yet. Okay, it'll
start you off like it's it thinks that

963
00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:52.159
it's a keyboard mouse, but it's
not continuing Steam controller. So you can

964
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.039
select stuff. You can use that
right cursor to like hover over stuff,

965
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.119
but there's no way to like select
in it. Yes, I had that

966
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:04.119
problem too, weird. Uh However, I tried it again with a three

967
00:59:04.159 --> 00:59:09.800
sixty controller and uh dirt rally and
even when it was like so I messed

968
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:13.760
up, or I messed with my
computer recently and had to had to like

969
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.360
re initialize dirt Rally. Uh,
and like a Windows pop up came up,

970
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.599
you know, on my television and
I was able to like mouse over

971
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:25.199
it with the Xbox three sixty controller
and press the A button to click.

972
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:29.760
Okay, weir and that was magical. I didn't think you'd be able to

973
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:34.280
do that with like not the Steam
controller, but I was able to Dirt

974
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.679
Rally itself. Was kind of hard
to play because of the there is lag.

975
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.199
Maybe there wouldn't be if I was
or there would be less if I

976
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.320
was plugged in like my computer was
also plugged in the same router. But

977
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:47.920
I couldn't really play dirt Rally.
But I could play a Metro twenty thirty

978
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.519
three, okay, like like a
slower paced shooter. I think was was

979
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:54.480
fine. Maybe it's because I'm used
to like multiplayer lag, but it was

980
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:57.719
okay. How did it look like? When did you tell any It looks

981
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.920
pretty good? Different? Yeah,
Like the frame rate Fate holds up pretty

982
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:05.679
well tinnity p. Yeah, I
get pretty consistent frame rate with that.

983
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.760
I mean, you know, the
game is really going to determine what kind

984
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:12.440
of artifacting, you're gonna get s
I messed around with the in home streaming

985
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.360
stuff. When they launched it with
a surface or surface pro, Oh sure,

986
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.360
I just Steam installed on that and
had that hooked up to a TV,

987
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:24.000
and it just the video quality was
enough, was like low enough that

988
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.159
I was just like, I don't
I don't want to do it. Blugs

989
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.840
the ship up and that's that was
another wired to wireless situation with the surface

990
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:36.159
hooked up over Wi Fi and the
latency was not too But also like,

991
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:37.960
you know, I think, you
know, they rolled out that feature of

992
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:42.639
like play Xbox One games on your
PC monitor, and you know, I

993
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.159
thought that was not good enough either. Like at some point, it's just

994
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:50.920
like I'm not in a situation where
like I need to make those sacrifices,

995
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.320
So it's not why would I.
You know, It's just one of those

996
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.679
things where it's like I guess if
you were in some weird situation where you're

997
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.719
like, oh, the the TV's
in use and we only have one of

998
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.119
these TVs and someone's watching television.
But that's never that's not my household.

999
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.920
So if I want to turn on
the TV and do things with it,

1000
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.840
I can. So it's just like
I don't know, I have zero use

1001
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:13.000
case for anty of that stuff playing
it on my TV. Yeah, yeah,

1002
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:14.960
yeah, I think that, you
know, and you can you can

1003
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.719
note like it's it's noticeable that it's
not like perfect video quality, like there's

1004
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.719
some I mean it's just lower barring
or right, but like yeah, uh,

1005
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.480
I think it looks fine. Yeah, there's still there's still not like

1006
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:32.119
a perfect solution for that problem long
as Yeah, so I was gonna say,

1007
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.840
like, yeah, still PC plugged
into your television. I've been,

1008
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.199
I've been. I've been swallowing my
pride for a good five years now running

1009
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:42.039
that thirty foot htm I cable down
the hall. Yeah, which is you

1010
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:44.960
know you're gonna get the best like
image quality and stuff. But yeah,

1011
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.159
but also you've got a giant cable
running down your hall. So that is

1012
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.400
kind of a yeah ass. But
you know a lot of people don't want

1013
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:52.440
to have a full sized PC next
to their TV, you know, because

1014
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:53.719
it takes up a lot of room
and I diverse though, if you had

1015
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:58.000
your computer plugged into your TV out
in your living room and then in your

1016
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.760
den or whatever at your desk,
then you had the monitor there like that

1017
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:06.800
doesn't need could work. I guess
another problem for me is I have a

1018
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.719
bunch of joysticks and wheels and pedals
and stuff that I can't put in front

1019
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.880
of Yeah, sure that I can't
put in front of a TV, so

1020
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.880
I need and that stuff needs to
be lag free. Yeah, so that

1021
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:21.159
that stays at the desk. Yes, that makes sense. So this also

1022
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.199
doesn't like, you know, just
straight up screen marrying mirroring as well.

1023
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:28.039
So if you exit out of like
the Steam app, when you have the

1024
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.880
Steam link displayed, it'll just display
what's currently on your your Okay, oh

1025
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.280
I thought it would just do gamespo
exit out of that and yeah, I

1026
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.079
just pulled up my desktop and I
was able to navigate everything just fine,

1027
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:42.000
kind of cool. I still had
to go back and forth a couple of

1028
01:02:42.039 --> 01:02:45.639
times to like click something or minimize
something, to relaunch something. Yeah,

1029
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:50.679
like the Windows ten like security thing
came up and I had to do that.

1030
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:55.199
So it's not like it's not plug
and play exactly, but it was

1031
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.679
pretty easy to set up. It's
neat that it's at least this far.

1032
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:04.039
Yeah, even if they're compromises,
it's still like, it's cool that it's

1033
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.159
that it's at this point. Yeah, Yeah, I tried, So I

1034
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.519
took on that Steam controller that you
bought and played exactly one round of Counterstrike

1035
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:15.679
with it. That go bad.
Uh, it's a track ball. Yeah,

1036
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:20.280
it's totally a track ball. Wait, there's no actual mechanical anything.

1037
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:24.039
Right, No, it's technically a
touch pad, but momentum like a track

1038
01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:30.360
really in practice, in effect,
it is like you are using the right

1039
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.880
thing and it keeps going weird.
That's not what I expected. And you

1040
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:37.400
know, it has a zillion different
settings, so you know, for different

1041
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.599
games, it has different profiles and
user made profiles and official profiles and all

1042
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:44.360
this other profiles, profiles, profiles
that you can get into and fuck around

1043
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:47.360
with, so you know, it
has a ton of options. And also

1044
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:51.360
for even just like the force feedback
and stuff like that, like on the

1045
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.480
right trigger which is the fire button
and counter Strike by default, it had

1046
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:59.159
a bit of a vibration there that
it didn't have on the other buttons.

1047
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:00.719
You know, so it seems like
you can kind of turn on like where

1048
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.559
do you want it to shake?
Where do you want to do this?

1049
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.039
And that's right. I didn't really
dig into that part of it. I

1050
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:09.920
don't know. It's it's an interesting
controller, it's but again it's one of

1051
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:15.320
those cases where like if I if
it's a game that cannot be played with

1052
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:20.039
a standard console style controller, I
want to use a mouse and keyboard.

1053
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:25.239
Yeah, and that thing is not
a good enough mouse and keyboard. It's

1054
01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.239
it's one of those compromised experience things
that like, what's the scenario where you're

1055
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.159
like, well, I have to
play this game right now, and boy,

1056
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:33.360
I can't play with a mouse and
keyboard. I guess I'm gonna have

1057
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:36.079
to use this thing, And well, I guess it's good enough for now,

1058
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.000
and boy, I can't wait till
I get back to the computer or

1059
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:43.599
play it for real z's or you
know, like there' that's I'm not in

1060
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:49.960
that situation, and it's hard to
envision playing through an entire game with one

1061
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:55.239
of those in a situation where you're
like, this doesn't feel quite as good

1062
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.559
as the real thing. Sure,
but I mean, how do you like,

1063
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:02.119
really successfully replicate the mouse keyboard combination
on your couch what I'm saying,

1064
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:06.880
you don't, You do not,
You can't. I think this is close.

1065
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:10.639
Yeah, I think this is a
good good step, But only that

1066
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.920
would would with like you know,
the customizable profiles and everything. We were

1067
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:16.880
talking a little bit about the sports, like what does this control you need

1068
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.159
to to help, you know,
make that bridge that gap, I guess,

1069
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:24.800
and maybe maybe like you know,
a different kind of touch pad or

1070
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.480
something like that, but it doesn't
have the I think you you know right

1071
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.960
now, it's something you could use
to play an adventure game or you know,

1072
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.480
a strategy game something like that where
you know, yeah, where you

1073
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.199
know, it's not an action game. It's not you know, actively requiring

1074
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.960
you to be quick and accurate with
with what you're doing, you know,

1075
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.119
And I think it's it's fine for
for that sort of stuff. But yeah,

1076
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.360
I mean, I I guess you
probably could use this thing for a

1077
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:54.719
really long time and get really good
with it. But why why would anyone

1078
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:56.960
do that in this day and age? Like I wonder if you know,

1079
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.360
ultimately he'd get better control, you
know, using the touchpad type thing as

1080
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:02.960
opposed to it just like a right
stick. Yeah, so yeah, I

1081
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:05.400
could see it, you know,
like, yes, if you were,

1082
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:09.039
if you were totally dedicated to I'm
going to play this on the couch,

1083
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:14.800
there is no other way than yeah, but yeah, you could already be

1084
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.719
using a mouse and keyboard and people
have been doing that for decades just fine.

1085
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:21.920
And and you know this doesn't seem
better than that. I guess that's

1086
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:26.320
my thing. It's like, you
know, the two options that are widely

1087
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.519
available of console style GamePad and mouse
and keyboard cover one percent of the situations.

1088
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:33.920
Yep. The thing is for me, like I if I had my

1089
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:41.559
computer plugged into my TV, I
would not be able to do things I

1090
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.000
need to do with only the Steam
Controller, Like I would always want to

1091
01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:49.559
have a wireless keyboard and mouse.
They're just in case yep, Like we're

1092
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:54.840
not at the level yet that even
if that was a dedicated gaming PC,

1093
01:06:55.480 --> 01:07:00.239
I couldn't just have the Steam controller
there. Yeah right now, Yeah,

1094
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.719
that the thing seems like a promising
start, but just to start and yeah,

1095
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:05.719
it's it's one of tho things where
it's like is it you know,

1096
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.480
is it something that gets built on
and continues or to people just go like,

1097
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:13.800
oh, well, here's another weird
controller in the pantheon of weird controllers

1098
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.039
they had there with the Fantom Lap, Like hey, they were onto something

1099
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.199
there. Anyway, I've got this. They never made a little shock for

1100
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:24.559
hooked up now and that's way but
you know or whatever, Yeah, I

1101
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:28.760
guess I just you know, I
feel like Valves hardware efforts thus far have

1102
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.800
like for as much like kind of
fury as some of those things were announced

1103
01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.360
with. Now that stuff's coming out, you're like, oh, yeah,

1104
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.159
are you guys even actually still serious
about Steam machines? Yea, all the

1105
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.239
fanfare around Steam machines and then there's
kind of like what, Yeah, well

1106
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:45.719
I'm still not clear who what who
should buy one of those things, you

1107
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:49.639
know, Steam machine? Yeah,
Like, yeah, I don't know.

1108
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.079
There's just so many weird aspects to
it. You know. It's like like

1109
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.599
does your game run on Linux at
all? And like if it does,

1110
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.400
is it going to be compromised in
performance? Like those benchmarks for showing a

1111
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.239
couple of weeks ago and get does
the answer then become like buy a Steam

1112
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:04.519
machine and then install Windows on it? Right? Go buy a copy of

1113
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:08.119
Windows Tend to put on there so
you can actually play the games you want

1114
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:10.440
to play. It is like is
the horse power you're getting for the money

1115
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.960
actually worth the premium? Right?
Who? Should you have built that machine

1116
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:16.439
yourself and just tried to build a
quiet desktop PC and hook that up to

1117
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.239
your TV, Like like the idea
of the Steam Machine is like a pre

1118
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:23.880
made like an all in one console
replacement, doesn't seem to have been born

1119
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.399
out. Yeah sot. And the
developer support is not there either. Yeah,

1120
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:29.880
you know that was something that it
seemed like that they were going to

1121
01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.159
have to get in front of people, and they had you know, and

1122
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:34.319
their Steam Dev Days and like,
hey, we're here's more panels about how

1123
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:39.159
to get your games running on Linux
guys, and everyone showed up and took

1124
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:41.640
notes and then got back and said
like, oh, yeah, we're not

1125
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.600
gonna do that. We have a
game to ship. We don't have time

1126
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.479
for that, right, I mean, I'll admit to being fairly impressed with

1127
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:49.640
the number of games they do have, sure, yeah, absolutely, Like

1128
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:51.239
they have more than I gave him
credit for. You, Like, I

1129
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:55.720
figured it would be like indie games, right, and they do have a

1130
01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.079
number of big games on that platform, but but not enough to be like,

1131
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.520
you know, hey, this is
this is gonna be the main way

1132
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:05.560
you play computer games. Like that's
not that's not gonna happen. Yeah.

1133
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:13.239
Indeed, consoles still have their place
absolutely for now, such as when you

1134
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.279
want to play the New Blood Born
deal see oh yeah, oh, which

1135
01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:18.760
I have been playing. It's called
the Old Hunters Jason. You watch me

1136
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:21.000
play, yeah, a little bit. We got a quickly on the site

1137
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:24.319
right now, the first hour or
so up to the first boss kind of,

1138
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:27.479
and you played a little bit since
then. Yeah, I'm pretty deep

1139
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:30.520
into it. I'm it sounds like
there's like five bosses in this thing,

1140
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:32.359
and I've beaten three of them.
I like that that number. Okay,

1141
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:38.079
Yeah, yeah, this thing's twenty
dollars. That's not a bad deal.

1142
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.760
You feel like five new five new
bosses, but new weapons. I would

1143
01:09:41.880 --> 01:09:45.239
say, like, you know,
if you think about a typical like Souls

1144
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.439
a game or blood Born like kind
of the amount of stuff you have in

1145
01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:53.359
between each boss feels pretty similar to
what's here. Okay, So if you

1146
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.079
kind of imagine like, okay,
I'm gonna have an hour to ninety minutes

1147
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.760
of exploring and dying over and over
and et cetera, et cetera, and

1148
01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:00.880
then gonna find a boss, like, that's what I've been seeing here,

1149
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:04.000
right. So, but I'm saying, like, you know, this thing's

1150
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:06.880
twenty bucks, So is that enough? Do you think? I? You

1151
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:11.279
know, it sounds fine to me
just based on what I've seen, so

1152
01:10:11.439 --> 01:10:14.600
far and what you've been telling me
about you know what's after that. Yeah,

1153
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:15.920
I thought twenty dollars it's pretty good. Okay, Yeah, I haven't

1154
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:17.920
seen the end of it yet.
I I you know, we said in

1155
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.800
the quick look like Eric from from
GameSpot had finished it and said he's he's

1156
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.600
like, yeah, there's a ton
more that he was thinking like eight hours

1157
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.920
or something for it. Okay,
but you know that kind of includes like

1158
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.439
dying on bosses over and over and
stuff. Yeah, it's just it's a

1159
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.279
weird thing because they announced it.
I actually thought it was weird at the

1160
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:35.359
time that they announced this thing,
that they came out and said, hey,

1161
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.760
we were going to do two different
DL season. Then we decided to

1162
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:42.880
make them one and here it is
like like it it's it felt weird to

1163
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.119
me that they actually, you know, went to the links of saying like,

1164
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.600
you know, this is what we
were planning on, but that was

1165
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:50.640
this other thing, like I don't
really know what their intent was, and

1166
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:54.720
in the marketing sense at that time, saying that there was going to be

1167
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:58.119
two behind behind saying like yeah,
we cramped two deal season to one here.

1168
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.199
I don't know twenty twenty dollars feel
like it's kind of on the high

1169
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:04.119
end for an add on in general
to me. But maybe it was just

1170
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:08.479
like this is it, this is
your only DLC. But that's exactly what

1171
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:11.159
it is. It's straight up said, hey, yeah, we're just gonna

1172
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:13.119
do the one and this is it, and here you go. Here's here

1173
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:15.039
is the expansion for Blood Born.
But like it, it's it's really good

1174
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:19.439
so far generally from what I've seen. Uh, like that that area you

1175
01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:21.600
start in, you know, it's
just it's cathedral ward with a bunch of

1176
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:26.159
ship layered on top of it.
Yeah, it was like immediately recognizable,

1177
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.760
but then it's just like nightmare as
you call it. Yeah, like all

1178
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.159
over that. I think they did
a really good job of repurposing that city

1179
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.760
area. But also also I didn't
want people to get the impression from that

1180
01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:38.239
quick it's just like that. No, it's like after the first thirty minutes,

1181
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:41.760
it's entirely new stuff. Like it's
it's very different type of stuff.

1182
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.359
But the level design has been really
impressive so far. Is it just kind

1183
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.079
of the same type of stuff is
there? Like I mean the new enemies

1184
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:53.079
change things dramatically or no, they're
you know, they have different attacks,

1185
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:56.840
different patterns. You know, like
there's definitely some unexpected stuff in there,

1186
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:00.600
but like you know, it plays
like a blood Born place that's like an

1187
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:02.960
abundance of you know, the Hunters. Yes, yes, so like early

1188
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.399
on you fight a whole lot of
the Hunters who are like the they're basically

1189
01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:11.239
NPC player characters and that they have
the same move set and the same weapons

1190
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.720
and all that stuff. Player so
far has been my least favorite part of

1191
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.520
the blood Borne that I have played. You might not be a huge fan

1192
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.800
of the steel se then, because
there's a whole lot of those guys to

1193
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:23.039
fight. A lot of them are
a lot of them, I would say

1194
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.399
are actually easier than stuff the stuff
from the main game. Maybe because there

1195
01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:28.520
are so many of them, they
dialed it down on it, But a

1196
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.760
couple of them have been like as
hard as anything that I remember from the

1197
01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:39.039
from the original game. That boss
is gross looking. Yeah, that's a

1198
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:41.680
creepy looking boss. That yeah,
I mean, you know, their monster

1199
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.680
design has always been incredible, Yeah, but that one in particular, they

1200
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.279
really straddle the line between like horrible
and grotesque but still like human looking in

1201
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.840
the face. That that stuffs really
impressive what about the weapons they added weapons?

1202
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:55.479
Right, Yeah, Like the weapons
they have in there are like the

1203
01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:58.960
designs are pretty amazing. Like one
of them hammers. Yeah, there's just

1204
01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.800
thing called the boom hammer. It's
just a giant hammer that you can ignite

1205
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.199
and then it like explodes every time
you hit someone with it. But it's

1206
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:08.800
cool because it doesn't transform at all. It's just every time you hit the

1207
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:12.520
transform button, it's basically like cocking
an explosive on it, and then when

1208
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.359
you hit something, it goes off
and then you have to like, does

1209
01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:21.439
he like strike his pistols flint against
it that ignites it? Is that what's

1210
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:27.920
happening? Yeah, that might actually
be exactly what's going on. Uh.

1211
01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.399
Yeah, Like the weapons, the
weapons seems super cool, but they're not

1212
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.399
like overpowered though, well it's not
like you know post game no, I

1213
01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:36.239
mean yeah, like completely the opposite. Like you get them all at like

1214
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:41.399
a weapon level one, you know, and to be fair that you seem

1215
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.600
to get a lot of upgrade materials
in this, so you could probably take

1216
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.159
they're saying there's like ten new weapons
in here between mainhand, which are melee

1217
01:13:48.199 --> 01:13:54.119
and offhand, which typically are guns. Right, Uh, you could probably

1218
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:56.600
take any one of those up to
like plus nine if you wanted to,

1219
01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:00.840
but like I haven't. I got
one plus ten item the entire run through

1220
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:02.399
the first game. Yeah, and
I use it on the weapon that I

1221
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.920
like, and have that weapon at
plus ten now. So unless I find

1222
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:09.279
another one of those things to upgrade
one of these new weapons, like,

1223
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:12.439
they're never going to be as useful
as the weapon I already have. Is

1224
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.920
that item that takes you to plus
ten kind of guaranteed to drop every time

1225
01:14:15.960 --> 01:14:17.199
you play through, So it's like
new game plus you'd be able to take

1226
01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:20.479
another weapon to plus ten, and
I think you can get one per run

1227
01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.760
through the game. And I heard
there. I think there might be one

1228
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.840
of those in the CLC, so
you could probably get to probably get a

1229
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:29.000
weapon to two until plus ten,
so you'd get to be able to like

1230
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.279
try out the new weapons absolutely,
man, I want this to be my

1231
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:38.439
totally powered up weapon. You can
absolutely get them close yesh yeah yeah,

1232
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:43.199
yeah, sure, I heard Mouster
Hunter. You just shake my head over

1233
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:45.960
here. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird, like you're already super

1234
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.640
used to the animation set on the
weapon you like and have leveled up like,

1235
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:51.399
it's very tempting to just stick with
that because it makes the game easier.

1236
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:57.359
Uh. They do something really cool
with a weapon in that thing,

1237
01:14:58.399 --> 01:14:59.880
and I don't know if I want
to say what it is, but I

1238
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.640
I want to say what it is. Don't do it, I could.

1239
01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:04.199
It's I mean, it's a mechanical
thing. It's not like it. Okay,

1240
01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:08.399
if you don't want to know anything
about the old Hunters, stop listening

1241
01:15:09.920 --> 01:15:15.079
five minutes ago. Yes, exactly. They give you a shield, like

1242
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.920
an honest to god functional real shield. I think they said that. Had

1243
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:21.039
they said that thing, I think
I knew that. Okay, I hadn't

1244
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:24.560
read about the thing before it came
out, so like everything has been in

1245
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:28.600
fact, actually, uh, they
kind of futs around with the purpose of

1246
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:30.560
the off hand quite a bit in
this, because you know, the off

1247
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:33.279
hand was pretty much nothing but guns. Yeah, I got like brass knuckles.

1248
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.399
Basically. We showed that in the
Quick Look, which I still haven't

1249
01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:40.000
figured out if you can parry with
that or not. I would think that

1250
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.720
that would be the main combinator that
I would assume you can. But I

1251
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.399
was a little bit. Yeah,
I wasn't able to pull it off,

1252
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:48.239
but uh yeah, Like it's just
kind of cool too. Instead of having

1253
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:50.199
a gun in that hand, you
can just straight up punch things. But

1254
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:55.760
then it's weird because they give you
that goofy ass wooden shield in the main

1255
01:15:55.800 --> 01:15:58.359
game, remember that thing, which, like even the description on that thing

1256
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.560
is like implying like, hey,
if you need to use this, maybe

1257
01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:03.600
you shouldn't be playing this game.
But then they actually just give you a

1258
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:09.079
full proper functional shield in this weird
that works like a shield and dark souls,

1259
01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.880
Like it doesn't block one hundred percent
of damage. You still take a

1260
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:15.399
little bit, but like it definitely
helps. They're fucking with us, like

1261
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:16.880
it. You can definitely use that
thing as a crutch if you want to.

1262
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:19.880
There's something really bad with that ship. Maybe tell maybe you'll find out,

1263
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:23.000
like if you beat the game with
that shield, they erase or saving

1264
01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:25.520
yeah something like I don't, I
don't know. It just it feels like

1265
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:29.960
a weird reversal game. Yeah,
exactly. It just feels like a weird

1266
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:31.640
reversal of their philosophy. You know
that this game was supposed to be faster

1267
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:35.039
and more action oriented and more about
like dodging and evading and not just like

1268
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:39.159
tanking with a shield and then they
just give you one. I don't know,

1269
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:43.880
it's strange. I mean it's you
would have had to work your way

1270
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:45.760
up there through playing the entire so
you can know you can actually get into

1271
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:50.880
this DLC very quickly. Uh.
In fact, I imagine not many people

1272
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:57.720
you're gonna like replay the game.
Yeah. Well, I mean if you

1273
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.000
if you knew where the DLC was
and it was your first time through,

1274
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:01.479
you could get into the DLC in
like four or five hours. Point is

1275
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.600
like, no Bloodborne neubes are gonna
go like, well, I want to

1276
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:06.560
play it. This shield, I'm
gonna get that and go there. They

1277
01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.520
probably wouldn't stumble into it. But
yeah, I mean you're you're right,

1278
01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.920
people playing this game aren't gonna need
it, but it is there. So

1279
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:16.439
it's kind of a weird thing to
give you after they seem to be taking

1280
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:23.399
such a stance against it previously.
But everything I've seen there is is good,

1281
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:25.079
like the you know, I can
think it's some you know, the

1282
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:27.880
areas where I stopped playing that game, the boss fights I was in.

1283
01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:31.840
I don't know that a shield would
really help me that much in those situations,

1284
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:33.680
you know, it wasn't really about
that. It's hard to say.

1285
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.079
I haven't used that much of it, but but it definitely seems to work

1286
01:17:36.079 --> 01:17:40.520
as advertised. Uh, it's weird, like the difficulty has been a little

1287
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:42.640
up and down. Like that first
boss that we fought in the quick look

1288
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:45.840
is but easily one of the hardest
like souls bosses I have ever fought.

1289
01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.800
But then the two after that I
just blew through, like with no effort

1290
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:51.720
at all. So really it's been
kind of up and down. Are over

1291
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.359
leveled for it? I don't know, I'm on Sony said like, oh,

1292
01:17:55.399 --> 01:17:57.760
you know, maybe be about level
sixty five to get in. Well,

1293
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.479
I'm on New Game Plus yeah,
so and it does scale, so

1294
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.920
I am like a level one hundred
and thirty. Yeah, but also I

1295
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.520
am on like the second play through, so everything should be scaling accordingly.

1296
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.720
But it's those bosses are more about
just like they were easy to dodge their

1297
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:14.239
stuff, hit them and just get
hits in without really taking a lot of

1298
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.920
damage. Do you think this changes
much in you know, in terms of

1299
01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.479
of the lore. They get into
some new stuff, Okay, but it's

1300
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:25.399
it's it's it's some really weird still, like it's not like necessarily postgame stuff,

1301
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.279
right, Yeah, So it's like
it's like an offshoot, like it's

1302
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.039
sort of a little bit I'm piecing
together. I mean, you know,

1303
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:33.920
I'll I'll invariably come back in a
month and watch like some exhaustive YouTube video

1304
01:18:33.960 --> 01:18:36.319
explaining it's actually going on in this
thing, like they did with the first

1305
01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:42.239
one. But it seems like they're
maybe exploring like the origins of one of

1306
01:18:42.239 --> 01:18:45.760
the other factions of people that are
referenced in the main game, like the

1307
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:47.920
powder Kegs. I think, all
right, I've seen mentioned if you remember

1308
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.439
them, they were like a different
faction of hunters that made like, yeah,

1309
01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:56.720
they made like uh kind of unapproved
weaponry, like experimental weaponry something like

1310
01:18:56.720 --> 01:19:00.720
that. I don't don't know anyway, it's a lot of nebulous, crazy,

1311
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:02.439
weird. There's some kind of new
co op thing, yeah, New

1312
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.159
Covenant, and they just turned the
servers on on Friday, So I haven't

1313
01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:10.119
actually seen any of that stuff yet, but my understanding is it makes it

1314
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:13.439
easier, or at least it kind
of formalizes the process of getting into other

1315
01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.399
people's games to help them, and
there's like leaderboards attached to that in some

1316
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.640
way. But I have no idea
how they track stats or what that that

1317
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.399
was. Every every time I tried
to get someone else into my game,

1318
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:26.680
it just never happened. It happened
once when I there was one boss where

1319
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:28.960
I was like just having some probably
like let's at least try this feature.

1320
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:32.159
I've never even tried it before,
and you know, got it going a

1321
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:35.479
few times. It just never had
anyone, huh, jump in. It's

1322
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:38.560
kind of weird that they would add
it this late in the cycle for this

1323
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:40.680
thing. I mean, you know, obviously there's gonna be a huge resurgence

1324
01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:44.159
and interest in this game around this. Yeah, but this doesn't sound super

1325
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.039
long, so I don't know how
long people will actually still be actively in

1326
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.399
Blood Born. I wonder if it
makes use of that there are people still

1327
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:51.359
playing Blood Born in the way that, like, you know, you see

1328
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:55.600
people having their souls games, doing
like the level one run this and doing

1329
01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:58.439
that, you know, playing the
game different ways, Like I haven't necessarily

1330
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:00.880
heard a lot about Blood Born in
the same way. I don't think Blood

1331
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:05.520
Born inspires that kind of repeat play
through sort of behavior, Like it's that

1332
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:09.560
game to me is very much about
finding the two weap like the main and

1333
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.560
offhand weapons that you like and just
going yeah and then kind of being done,

1334
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.520
like like you can't do all magic
builds, or you can't do just

1335
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:18.800
ranged builds, you know, or
your sword and shield build, like you

1336
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.479
couldn't you know, dark Souls you
could play like pretty much however the hell

1337
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.720
you want from the outset. Yeah, yeah, uh and this is this

1338
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:29.319
is a lot more rigid. Yeah, but but the content and this seems

1339
01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:31.920
really good so far, like the
really nice looking areas, like creepy shit,

1340
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:36.680
that game is nailed. It's atmosphere, man, yes, for sure,

1341
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:40.600
just some clever stuff like I just
got through this area, which is

1342
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:44.640
a bunch of this just like criss
crossing stairways. They're like the like multiple

1343
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:47.359
staircat staircases sort of overlapping each other
to the point that it's almost hard to

1344
01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:50.199
see where they go, and like
a couple of them kind of lead to

1345
01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:54.680
literally nothing. But then as you
get deeper into it, you find ways

1346
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:58.159
to start manipulating that and then like
wow, things sort of lock into place.

1347
01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:00.359
And then once you go back through
at the second time and you're like,

1348
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:01.079
oh, now I see where the
stairs are supposed to go, you

1349
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:03.319
know, just like some ending of
Labyrinth. Yes, exactly, Okay,

1350
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:05.920
Yes, it's like a really good
super Mariot Maker level. And then and

1351
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:10.079
then you fight David Bowie at the
end. Good dude, and it's yep,

1352
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:13.920
good they got him. Yeah,
that thing seems good. I hope

1353
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.840
that it justifies it's twenty dollars price. But but it's certainly very well put

1354
01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:20.199
together so far. That seems like
a fair price to me. Yeah,

1355
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:23.279
I think. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you want more

1356
01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:29.520
blood Borne, there's only one place
to get it. Where uh and blood

1357
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:33.279
Born? Oh oh the old os. Wait until next March when another Dark

1358
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:36.760
Souls comes up. Yeah, all
right, one last order of business.

1359
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:43.319
What you get? I finished that
StarCraft expansion, Like I say, the

1360
01:21:43.399 --> 01:21:45.760
void, Well, I mean,
don't just spill the ending, but give

1361
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.520
me, give me a vibe,
man, talk to me about the end

1362
01:21:48.520 --> 01:21:55.079
of StarCraft. Okay, holdout?
Really talking first? The good news,

1363
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.960
Yes, which I actually forgot to
mention last week. I was just getting

1364
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.920
into this last week, and now
I have seen it fully come to bear.

1365
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.119
John Delancy is in this game,
and he's fucking amazing. I completely

1366
01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:09.359
forgot to bring that up last week. He is like he's like kind of

1367
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:13.399
a bad guy that you have to
like grudgingly form an alliance with to get

1368
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:17.600
things done, you know. Yep, and he just choose scenery like a

1369
01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:21.840
motherfucker in this game. Like,
oh my god, he is really good.

1370
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:25.800
But what's well maybe this is a
spoiler, but can you tell me

1371
01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:28.680
what sort of being he is?
A protos Okay, yeah, so he's

1372
01:22:28.680 --> 01:22:30.039
got all that weird like what did
you call it in the quick look,

1373
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:35.560
like kind of the reverse verse reverb, Like just a real real like echoe

1374
01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:40.560
throaty psionic kind of I'm going to
talk before I talk, yes, kind

1375
01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:43.439
of. But he's but he also
just gets way down in his register and

1376
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:45.159
it's just kind of growling a lot
of his lines. But he's also there's

1377
01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:48.720
a little bit of that glee,
like that kind of impish glee of of

1378
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:51.119
Q and his voice as well,
you know, like he's just having a

1379
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:57.600
lot of fun with it. It's
really good. Uh. Then you finish

1380
01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:03.359
that thing, and man that goes
places full anime pretty much? Okay,

1381
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:08.399
yeah, pretty much? Uh yeah, I don't really it's hard to talk

1382
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.319
around without just saying what happens at
it, but man, it's stupid.

1383
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.000
Okay, yeah, it's really stupid. The thing that I read about what

1384
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:17.399
that was didn't sound real dumb the
whole time, because I knew that you

1385
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.720
were sitting on like some piece of
information that you had heard about and I

1386
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:24.000
didn't know what it was. But
as soon as I well, so for

1387
01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:27.000
one thing, like I kind of
half guessed what was going to happen like

1388
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.159
halfway through in terms of that one
specific event, But as soon as it

1389
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:33.560
happens, You're just like, what
really that that's how you're gonna do that?

1390
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:38.720
And then they totally do it.
So in your estimation, is it

1391
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:46.199
a? Is it a worthy conclusion
to StarCraft two? Not really? Actually?

1392
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.119
Yeah, Like if you're talking about
what it is, this is the

1393
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:53.680
this is the final expansion. I
mean not only that, like they actually

1394
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:59.520
frame it like the the events are
of such an importance that it's basically the

1395
01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:03.760
conclusion to StarCraft. WHOA, Like
they kind of put a bow on everything

1396
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:08.840
to the point that like you could
never make another StarCraft game and nobody would

1397
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:12.680
feel unfulfilled in terms of like the
story reaching its conclusion. You know,

1398
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:15.800
wow, I'm not saying you couldn't
make another StarCraft game, but if they

1399
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:18.039
never made another. Aren't they they're
doing that StarCraft Adventure or whatever the there's

1400
01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:21.560
the thing they said at blizz Con. Yeah, Nova or whatever. I

1401
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:24.920
have not clear. Yeah, like
the Nova covert Ops I think is the

1402
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.560
name of that first one. Like
they're gonna do these little bit stick shooting

1403
01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:31.199
for the iPads. No, they're
bringing back StarCraft ghosts. Those are just

1404
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:33.560
gonna be a little sets of missions
they're gonna put out for this and who

1405
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:38.199
knows where those are set. I
have no idea what those are gonna be

1406
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:40.960
about, and like if they're gonna
be I assume charging for them. They

1407
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:47.199
didn't really go into detail, but
uh yeah, like you go all the

1408
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.119
way back to when they announced StarCraft
two, and then when they announced that

1409
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:53.920
it was going to be split into
three, and then even the fact that

1410
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:58.119
the first one of those came out
over five years ago, Like you think

1411
01:24:58.119 --> 01:25:00.439
about all the time that's passed as
the story has slowly played out, and

1412
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:02.319
like did you guys, you guys
played through the first one, right,

1413
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:08.079
Yeah? Do you remember just like
the the ancient prophecies and like the like

1414
01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:12.279
enormous like apocalyptic visions that the characters
were having, and just like these kind

1415
01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:16.720
of like like galaxy spanning conflicts that
were promised. It all seemed very serious.

1416
01:25:16.840 --> 01:25:19.880
Yes, it was very grandiose,
you know, like it just sort

1417
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:26.159
of ends like that stuff plays out, but in like a really underwhelming,

1418
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.239
kind of perfunctory way. At the
end of this thing, like a lot

1419
01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:31.319
of the major of not all,
but a lot of the major events that

1420
01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:35.199
form the conclusion of this thing take
place like in the game engine. Like

1421
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:39.000
I don't even mean cut scenes rendered
it like in real time. I mean

1422
01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:42.600
like that style. I mean like
the literal overhead battlefield camera, like the

1423
01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:47.680
like the actual RTS view with mineral
counts yess right, Like major character is

1424
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.199
being dealt with in that view like
from the RTS. I want to say,

1425
01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:55.479
didn't that happen in StarCraft one?
Oh yeah totally. And they didn't

1426
01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:57.279
have a lot of choice then,
yeah, like they did. They had

1427
01:25:57.319 --> 01:25:59.960
their CG cut scenes, and they
had whatever budget they had to make X

1428
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:01.680
minutes of those or whatever. But
I wonder, I wonder how much of

1429
01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:03.840
this was like them going like,
well, that's how we did it in

1430
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:06.800
StarCraft, and how much of this
is with them going, well, it

1431
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:13.680
costs a lot per minute to make
CG even though we are blizzards. You

1432
01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:15.680
know, this is still just StarCraft
two now that ain't what it used to

1433
01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:18.039
be. So how about you have
it play out in a mission. I

1434
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:21.159
can't guess that they're intent, but
I will say that none of it comes

1435
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:25.000
off as like a deliberate throwback,
okay, Like it just comes off as

1436
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:29.039
like kind of bland, you know, and even even like the setting aside

1437
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:31.279
how it's presented, just like the
nature of the events are just so predictable.

1438
01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:35.920
Yeah, and like you know,
like you know, it's it's it's

1439
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.840
kind of the whole problem with building
this big arc around like this kind of

1440
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:42.560
ancient, big bad you know,
like just like, oh, everybody's got

1441
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:47.560
a unite against the formless ancient evil
existential evil, and like I gotta slam

1442
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:51.560
these keystones and deal with the evil
that makes it go down a little smoother.

1443
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.399
Uh Yeah. Like the story is
just super predictable and kind of flat,

1444
01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:00.000
and it's a shame because like individual
moments in that campaign or a ton

1445
01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:03.319
of fun you know, where characters
clash with each other or just like crazy

1446
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:06.880
big space battles happen, or a
gameplay wise, there's a lot of uh

1447
01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:11.359
yeah, the campaign's super fun.
Like it's really well put together. You

1448
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:14.399
know, it's it's as good as
those campaigns have been so far. Cool,

1449
01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:17.279
but it's definitely more of that,
So you're not really gonna see anything

1450
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.680
radically new, but it's a lot
of fun to play through. But yeah,

1451
01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:24.840
like I was getting super into it
again. You know, it was

1452
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:27.600
like going for every achievement and every
mission and like just I was like,

1453
01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.439
man, StarCraft is back, and
then the last handful of missions you go

1454
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.720
through and I just kind of it
took a lot of the wind out of

1455
01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:34.800
my sales to the point that I
don't think I want to go about moth

1456
01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:43.960
up anymore of those achievements. They
also it kind of had hesitate to say

1457
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:47.319
it has two endings, but the
way it's parceled out, you may you

1458
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.520
may have seen, like this is
not some huge spoiler. It's right there

1459
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:53.520
on the menu when you start the
campaign. But there's like an epilogue campaign

1460
01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:57.520
at the end, which is three
missions. So it's like the pro dost

1461
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.960
campaign ends and it has a conclusion, but then you mediately turn around and

1462
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.039
do that epilogue campaign and then like
more things happen, you know, Yeah,

1463
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:08.439
like it's just paste really weirdly,
you know, it doesn't feel like

1464
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:11.680
like the epilogue is supposed to be
where all the truly climactic, like world

1465
01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:14.199
changing events take place. But it's
like I feel like I just finished the

1466
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:15.880
game and now I'm like not done, you know, like it did you

1467
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:18.199
know what I mean? It tacked
on in a way, like it's just

1468
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:21.039
a weird way to split things up. I think they wanted to use that

1469
01:28:21.079 --> 01:28:24.119
as their excuse to like, you
know, here's a MISSI where you plays

1470
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.479
the Terrans before it's over, and
right, here's a mission where you get

1471
01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:28.279
to play as the Zerg again.
But you know, like they kind of

1472
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:30.159
wanted to throw everything it was the
book on these guests, Yes, exactly,

1473
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:33.960
and they do for sure. Jimmy
James Rainer one last time, Man,

1474
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:38.079
Rainer, only shit, I know
you don't care. I kind of

1475
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:41.159
want to just tell you something after
this podcast is over. Yeah, totally.

1476
01:28:41.199 --> 01:28:44.800
I will hear everything you say about
just to see what you think the

1477
01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:48.680
dumb final moments of StarCraft. Man, it's weird though, Like it's just

1478
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:51.960
weird because like the last arts they
did was, you know, a game

1479
01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.800
that was basically made in service of
setting up an mmo, you know,

1480
01:28:57.479 --> 01:29:00.560
like Warcraft three of nothing else,
just like kicks off a bunch of new

1481
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.399
conflicts and sets the stage for this
game that they've been building on for ten

1482
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:08.960
years or whatever, and like this
game just like I'd never considered that.

1483
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:11.920
Do you think that Warcraft three was
built with wow in mind? Was that?

1484
01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:14.920
I was that something they've said?
I they haven't said it, but

1485
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:17.800
like it absolutely introducing the introduction,
introduction of hero characters and all that sort

1486
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.840
of stuff like puts a face on
Warcraft, the hero stuff, but also

1487
01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:24.000
the fact that they added so many
new factions. I mean, of course

1488
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.840
you're going to add more factions in
your new arts or whatever, but like,

1489
01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:30.359
I just remember thinking they added so
much lore and so many different personalities,

1490
01:29:30.439 --> 01:29:33.520
and like because you know, it
was it used to be just humans

1491
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:36.159
versus orcs, and that that's a
big part of what pushed me away from

1492
01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:39.720
Warcraft three. You know, I
know people love that game, but I

1493
01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:44.159
just you know, the hero characters, the hero units and then all that.

1494
01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:46.560
Yeah, that kind of stuff was
just I was like, man,

1495
01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:49.319
you guys really lost the plot on
this one. Warcraft two was a fucking

1496
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:54.479
badass game. Warcraft two is really
so good. I might say Warcraft two

1497
01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:57.439
is one of the best games ever
made. You might, uh, but

1498
01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.119
you know, like they added they
added night elves and undead and that thing,

1499
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:01.840
neither of which had, like it
really ever been seen in that lore

1500
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.399
before. You know, like they
just added so many different places and concepts,

1501
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:09.279
and like it very much felt like, Hey, we need to build

1502
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:13.239
up a fiction that can support this
massive MMO that we're going to run for

1503
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.840
a decade or whatever, and StarCraft
is the exact opposite. Like, you

1504
01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:20.039
know, they made very much another
StarCraft game with the same factions, the

1505
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:25.600
same characters, and then just kind
of wrap it all up very tightly.

1506
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:28.279
There was a part of me at
one point I had wished that they had

1507
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:31.760
made a StarCraft MMMO instead. Yeah. Yeah, the way this thing closes

1508
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:36.840
out, it does not feel like
another StarCraft product is forthcoming soon, if

1509
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:40.680
ever, it makes sense. But
that's not a bad it's not necessarily bad

1510
01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:42.880
thing. It's just kind of the
way that you know, I wisht and

1511
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:46.159
drama yep, man, I do
wish they had executed the ending a little

1512
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:49.680
more gracefully and with a little more
depth. But it has an ending,

1513
01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:54.359
that's for sure. Yeah, So
there you have that I needed. I

1514
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:58.760
need to mess with some more of
that multiplayer stuff I need. I need

1515
01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.880
to know, yes exactly. Uh. You guys, got any other games

1516
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:05.720
you want to talk about? You
want to, No, I come through.

1517
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:09.720
I've been messing with things, little
things here and there, and then

1518
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.000
also getting through games for like kind
of game of the year check which I

1519
01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.399
don't I don't want to talk about
those because then that's just us having game

1520
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:19.600
of the year conversations early. That'll
come soon enough. And I've been continuing

1521
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:24.000
to fiddle with Super Mario Maker,
yes, which is a grand game.

1522
01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.920
So I hear Overwatch's grabbing my attention. Oh did you know? I didn't

1523
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:30.760
get invited? But we didn't.
Man, I keep seeing streams and people

1524
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:32.880
playing it. I'm like, fun, Yeah, that game looks great and

1525
01:31:32.920 --> 01:31:36.479
I'm not really that anty for his
person Shooters was a big team shooter guy.

1526
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:40.680
Yeah. I like the you know, I like the theory behind.

1527
01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:45.479
It's very it's very well stuff.
Yeah. After watching that quick look,

1528
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:46.920
I'm like, yeah, I could
get into this, Yes, it could

1529
01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.960
be fun. But got game of
the year stuff, yes, worry about

1530
01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.680
right now? That is a game
of next year. Yep. Although not

1531
01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:56.439
that far off. Yeah, like
what else? What else is going on?

1532
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:01.960
Just cause I mean that's just Zeno
Blade yea god, I want to

1533
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.600
play that man. Yeah, And
I like did not have the time for

1534
01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:08.239
that game, so we sent it
to Austin. I remember going in the

1535
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:13.560
envelope and shed a tear. Yes, and Rainbow six Rabo six Siege.

1536
01:32:13.640 --> 01:32:16.760
And there's like a new Kung Fu
Panda game. Oh yeah, I think

1537
01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:20.399
there's a new movie. Probably think
you're making another Kung Fu Panda. I

1538
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:25.640
saw some stills made money. Oh
yeah, so probably sure. I don't

1539
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:30.119
know. Yeah, what's the Idagaki
game coming out? That is still coming

1540
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:33.359
out? Isn't holy crap? Yeah, eleventh, I think that is.

1541
01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:36.640
We should probably push back our deliberation. Oh, you're right, yes,

1542
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:42.520
it's just we you exclusive, right, yet it's also coming to PC.

1543
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.760
Really at the same time, I
don't think we you and PC like that's

1544
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:51.039
weird. Pardo what huh? This
is Resign They are publishing it here.

1545
01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:54.560
There was talk for a while that
they weren't, and then they kind of

1546
01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.880
reiterated like no, this is US. I don't know, no one else

1547
01:32:56.920 --> 01:33:00.159
would pick it up. We should
probably cover that. Yeah, Oh,

1548
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.159
yeah, we need to see what
that is. I've heard because out in

1549
01:33:02.199 --> 01:33:05.039
some territories now. Really, I
want to say it's out in Japan or

1550
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:10.960
something. But I feel like there's
been nothing but negative reaction to that thing.

1551
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:14.600
But I feel like it's all based
on speculation though, like nobody's actually

1552
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.239
had any firsthand experience with it.
I feel like it's out somewhere right now?

1553
01:33:18.439 --> 01:33:20.199
Is it? Is it a character
action? It could be wrong.

1554
01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:25.279
I have no idea. Yeah,
there's gonna there's a multiplayer mode that I

1555
01:33:25.319 --> 01:33:28.880
believe is only on the PC or
something like that. I've not been following

1556
01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:30.039
that game closely at all, so
I could be wildly wrong. But it's

1557
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:35.800
been a while that. Definitely it's
been Austin that dude has shipped a game.

1558
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.439
Yes, absolutely, God. I
can't even think what the last one

1559
01:33:39.479 --> 01:33:41.239
would have bet. I mean,
it would have been a dead or alive

1560
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:44.720
game at this point, right Anderson, it would have been it would have

1561
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:47.279
been Techmo release, right, Yeah. But anything he didn't he wasn't there

1562
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:50.920
for ninuting three, wasn't like the
latest DA. I don't think it's part

1563
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:55.079
of either. Man. Man,
I don't know what he's been up to

1564
01:33:55.159 --> 01:34:00.000
him. Yeah, there's code Chrono. No, he's canceled d again.

1565
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:04.159
All right, well for video games
this week, let's talk about some news.

1566
01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:08.720
Okay, there's not a whole lot
of news. Big surprise in fact,

1567
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:13.680
that there's exactly like one story that
actually kind of matters. U slay

1568
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:16.840
it upon me. All right,
buckle up, click, I'm in.

1569
01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.600
How would you like Okay, how
would you like to play PlayStation two games

1570
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:24.359
on your PlayStation four? I would
like that quite a bit. Act.

1571
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:27.279
All right, Well, Sony's got
good news for you. Really. Yeah,

1572
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:30.600
they've confirmed two wired that they are
in fact working on PS two emulation

1573
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:34.960
for the PS four. But like, the whole way that this came out

1574
01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:41.560
was really strange because it seemed like
a people leaping to some pretty generous conclusions

1575
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:46.239
kind of or at least like assuming
making assumptions about things. Because the Star

1576
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:53.920
Wars Battlefront console bundle comes with the
Star Wars games, one of which is

1577
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:57.680
a new version of Superstar Wars,
a new port of Superstar Wars. Yeah,

1578
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:00.840
and that got trophies and it's got
trophy eater boards. And then three

1579
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.479
PS two Star Wars games re released
and those still have all their PS two

1580
01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:09.720
button prompts and a lot of resolution
stuff up as type stuff that you look

1581
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.000
at it and go like, this
looks like emulation. It turns out that

1582
01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:15.520
it was is and they've put trophies
into it. They had a pat in

1583
01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.279
a while back they talked about trophies. Four old games. PS two games

1584
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:21.239
have trophies as well. Yeah.
Oh but if you go if you look

1585
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:25.359
at the trophy lists for those Four
Star Wars games, the one for Superstar

1586
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:30.239
Wars are more in depth, which
you would get you would be able to

1587
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:32.199
get a little more easily if you
were coding a new version of that game.

1588
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:36.079
Okay, if you were an emulator
on the outside looking into a game

1589
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:40.960
and going like, well, what
data can we extract from this running code?

1590
01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:43.520
Yeah? What what we you know? Then it's like, okay,

1591
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:45.000
well you finished level one, we
know that because this number changed to this,

1592
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.279
and you know, like those sorts
of things, like the trophies for

1593
01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.960
those PS two games are a little
more generic, like you think about it,

1594
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:56.439
like the Arcade Archive series that Hamster
does. Uh, those are maybe

1595
01:35:56.439 --> 01:36:00.399
on at the extreme end of things
of being like super generic trophies because it's

1596
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.840
stuff like your score hit this number, or you know, you you looked

1597
01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:06.520
at the menu or you you checking
out the option. Yeah, like they

1598
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.840
build up this much memory. So
yeah, it's it's the sort of thing

1599
01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:15.720
that like you could very easily do
with an emulated game. And and so

1600
01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:19.960
the the PS two games, those
trophy lists look a lot more basic than

1601
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:27.119
than many other trophy losks. Is
it like the were you talking about one

1602
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:32.359
time about people doing achievements for old
games. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

1603
01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:35.119
a lot like that, okay,
where like but even those are starting to

1604
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:38.279
get like people are starting to get
better, and now they're spending more time

1605
01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:43.159
with like emulated old games and coding
new achievements for those games and emulators that

1606
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:47.760
then support this network. Yeah,
it's stuff like you know, you know,

1607
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:50.520
beat this level of Super Mario World, or like, hey, finish

1608
01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:54.720
this level of Super Mario Brothers while
the timer is you know, like it's

1609
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:57.279
based like a speed run through a
level. Things where they can look at

1610
01:36:57.359 --> 01:37:00.479
numbers and know like this is the
number, this is the when the level

1611
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:02.239
says this. If they finished the
level and the time says this, then

1612
01:37:02.279 --> 01:37:06.319
give them this like those sorts of
equations or the sorts of things they're doing.

1613
01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:12.039
And yeah, they these PS two
trophy lists look like those in some

1614
01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:15.840
cases either way, I'm yeah,
Landboard. It seemed like this all started

1615
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:18.600
on Digital Foundry, Like they ran
an article saying like looking at those games,

1616
01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.000
going like, hey, they do
this and this, which like other

1617
01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:26.560
normally games are not allowed to do
in this environment, and I don't know

1618
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:30.520
what the kind of the order of
events was. From there. That led

1619
01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:32.560
to Sony finally coming out and confirming
it was weird because there were a lot

1620
01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.279
of stories that were just like hands
on. Even the Digital Foundry thing was

1621
01:37:35.319 --> 01:37:40.039
like hands on with the PS four's
PS two emulator, and it led to

1622
01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:42.439
a lot of people being really confused
of being like, wait, I can

1623
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.239
wait, what it's out? I
can play PS two? Wait what it's

1624
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:47.239
like, No, it's just these
Star Wars games that are being sold.

1625
01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:49.039
Is this one off thing? It's
not like, hey, put a PS

1626
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:55.960
two disc in and here you go
and probably will never be Yeah, yeah,

1627
01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:59.479
that's why not because they could sell
those games again. They went and

1628
01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:02.119
rate a bunch of PS two games, like an Apiscape game and some other

1629
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:06.560
older games that have been re rated
by a ratings board, oh rat rated

1630
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:13.760
that seemed likely to appear in this
format at some point. But if they're

1631
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:15.920
doing that work, I feel like
that means they intend to sell these things.

1632
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:18.880
You're probably right. I'll go ahead
and read the quote that Sony gave

1633
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:24.720
to Wired about this. We are
working on utilizing PS two emulation technology to

1634
01:38:24.760 --> 01:38:28.399
bring PS two games forward to the
current generation. We have nothing further to

1635
01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.560
comment at this point in time.
God damn it. Yeah, so that's

1636
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.079
all they had to say. PSX
is coming up. This is That is

1637
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:36.640
the exact I was talking to Austin
about this, like not that long ago

1638
01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:40.800
and kind of putting our heads together
and say, like, you know what,

1639
01:38:41.159 --> 01:38:45.239
this is the exact right level of
announcement where it is like a big

1640
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:50.640
thing for people that like Sony and
like the PlayStation, but wouldn't necessarily headline

1641
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:55.199
an E three level event, wouldn't
be a Paris Games Week sort of thing.

1642
01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:59.279
So this seems like something that they
would very clearly save for the PlayStation.

1643
01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:03.239
Think this was just that getting outed
totally that this is people, This

1644
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:09.199
is people getting to that conclusion because
those Star Wars games had to ship alongside

1645
01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:15.079
Battlefront and then Sony actually in rare
form saying like oh yeah, yeah,

1646
01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:17.079
yeah. So that's the weird part
to me is that they didn't just go

1647
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:24.560
what check in later yea or whatever. So but I you know, my

1648
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:28.840
guess is that this would be something
they would hold more details. Yes,

1649
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:30.319
so yeah, you would hope now
that the info is the basic info was

1650
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:34.359
out there, they would bring some
some actual meat, yeah, to the

1651
01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:38.840
event in terms of like what the
business model is going to be and what

1652
01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:42.159
you'll be able to do, what
you won't be able to do. Put

1653
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.720
discs in your thing. I want
to pop a disc in. Man,

1654
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.079
that would be so great. That
would be so great. I would love

1655
01:39:48.119 --> 01:39:50.319
it. I would I totally love
it. Yeah, that would be nice.

1656
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:53.920
I just I just don't see them
going that route with that. I

1657
01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:58.000
see them doing some amount of work, whether it's trophy work, figuring out

1658
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.359
like what the okay, we can
upscale this game to this resolution before it

1659
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.720
gets weird, so we're gonna lock
it here, you know, doing that

1660
01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.600
level of kind of custom work,
which is you know, not as big

1661
01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:11.159
as re engineering a whole game,
but you know, is still work.

1662
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:15.399
Yeah. My guess is that that's
that's how they'll do this if they're if

1663
01:40:15.399 --> 01:40:17.720
they're providing better graphics and like even
going as far as to add trophies I

1664
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:21.199
can, I'll kind of see the
case for charging for that stuff. It's

1665
01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:25.600
not necessarily better graphics. I mean
they're upressing, they're filtering, you know

1666
01:40:25.640 --> 01:40:29.840
it say it's things that like a
an existing PS two emulator will PC already

1667
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:35.359
does sure, and so you know, I don't know, you could see

1668
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:39.600
it when maybe they're gonna get extra
generous and go fuck it, put your

1669
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:42.680
disk in and you'll still be able
to get trophies off them or something like

1670
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:46.279
that. I just don't see that
being likely. I wonder if it makes

1671
01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:51.439
more business sense, Like I'm thinking
if how many PS two games I would

1672
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:59.920
buy, Like, does it make
more sense to charge you like a subscription,

1673
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:03.199
like the subscription for the ability to
play your PS two games emulated.

1674
01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:09.119
I don't know. I think that
gets weird because they have their PlayStation now

1675
01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:13.640
streaming stuff that does some of that
already, so I think it muddies the

1676
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:17.720
waters with their existing subscription services.
Was that I can't remember it was now

1677
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:21.920
just PS three games? Had they
ever Yeah, I think it's just PS

1678
01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:25.600
three, but that was the case, right. I think they looked at

1679
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:29.119
doing PS two at some point,
but haven't necessarily added those so that this

1680
01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:31.039
would explain why they held back the
older games. Then if they had a

1681
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:34.520
different So if they if they're you
know, if they're weird, you know,

1682
01:41:34.640 --> 01:41:38.560
rack mounted PS three stuff might not
be able to run PS two stuff.

1683
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:42.960
You know, there's sure there's a
lot of technical reasons that that might

1684
01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.560
be challenging to launch PS three's in
those racks. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

1685
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:50.399
the other OS functional was missing,
right because they couldn't get in their

1686
01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:54.439
in code. Plus, you know, it's kind of have to hire a

1687
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.600
lot of people to walk all those
discs back and forth because PS three every

1688
01:41:57.600 --> 01:42:00.319
time somebody wants to play one.
Yeah, you know, that's all the

1689
01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:02.479
scud missiles you could launch. Yeah, it's true. I wonder how that

1690
01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:06.640
PlayStation now stuff is doing. I
don't know. I you know, I

1691
01:42:06.680 --> 01:42:10.079
didn't even hear people talking about it
when it launched. It was like one

1692
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:13.720
of the things where when it entered
beta you heard people talking about the performance

1693
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:17.119
and some of that stuff, and
then it has just been silent. I

1694
01:42:17.119 --> 01:42:21.079
don't hear like people out there in
like the community saying like I'm loving playing

1695
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.680
these PS three games. Well,
this is a huge game. Library,

1696
01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:27.399
Like, I just I haven't heard
that it's a legacy service. You know,

1697
01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:29.680
they're not gonna have a bunch of
new games coming out all the time.

1698
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:31.079
It's kind of generate, not going
to generate a lot of buzz,

1699
01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:38.520
I suppose, but but yeah,
I don't know. It's I maybe I'm

1700
01:42:38.600 --> 01:42:43.319
being overly pessimistic and thinking that they
would they would take this opportunity to sell

1701
01:42:43.479 --> 01:42:45.680
ups two games again, But I
feel like that's where the industry is at

1702
01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:49.319
these days. I think you're probably
right. You probably are right. It's

1703
01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:54.720
kind of a weird look next to
the three sixty backwards compatibility having just launched,

1704
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:57.880
and like, granted that doesn't cover
a ton of games yet, but

1705
01:42:57.960 --> 01:43:00.439
like the ones that does cover,
you just them in and go. Do

1706
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.119
you think Microsoft will come out with
the video it says, here's how to

1707
01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:11.000
play backwards compatible games on your Xbox
one, slide into tray well and PS

1708
01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:15.399
two would be lined up with the
original Xbox which Microsoft had to come out

1709
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:17.199
like I think the last week or
something like it was. Quotes from Spencerson

1710
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:20.800
like that's hard. Yeah, you
know, getting original Xbox games emulated,

1711
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:25.119
Ye, not easy. So even
for the people who made the console.

1712
01:43:25.199 --> 01:43:26.720
Yeah. I think they're like,
we would love to do it, but

1713
01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.760
yeah, that's not really necessarily and
it took them two years to get the

1714
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:35.479
three sixty right stuff going. Yeah, that'd be great. I would.

1715
01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:40.159
I would love to see original Xbox
games become more playable than they are right

1716
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:45.119
now. That is the that's that's
a black hole. Imagine worked on it

1717
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:49.319
too. It'd be awesome. Man, that'd be crazy. Yeah yeah,

1718
01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:55.119
yeah yeah, man. Fuck,
Like, what is what is your best

1719
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:58.399
bet for playing online games? CBS
two. I guess it's just like going

1720
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:01.600
fucking spy tunnel black market. Yeah, you're you're screwed tunnel it. Yeah.

1721
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:05.159
If it's got land play, yeah, more than likely. I've never

1722
01:44:05.199 --> 01:44:10.279
tried. I've never tried outside of
g GPO probably runs that shit. Actually

1723
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:14.359
maybe not because that's a Naomi game, right, So I don't. I

1724
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.960
don't. There are emulators. There
are emulators that run Naomi and Dreamcast stuff

1725
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:23.880
pretty well, but getting network code
slapped on top of that might not be

1726
01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:28.520
the easiest. I don't know.
Uh, that sounds like a fun project

1727
01:44:28.600 --> 01:44:33.039
for me just to research it.
Not that Yeah, promote emulation at all?

1728
01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:35.520
I would Yeah, I don't know. I'll be interested to see what

1729
01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:40.800
they end up doing with this PS
two stuff long term. I would love

1730
01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:45.720
it, man, Like I'm games. Yeah, I own a ton of

1731
01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:47.479
PS two games that I would love
to play, and the games that they

1732
01:44:47.479 --> 01:44:51.159
would put on their list to resell, assuming that they if they, or

1733
01:44:51.199 --> 01:44:54.439
even if it would, I had
to be like a game by game approval

1734
01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:57.399
of like whether your old discs can
run because they have to do verification work

1735
01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:00.000
or whatever, is never going to
cover the PS two games that I would

1736
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:04.359
want to play. Yeah, uh
Like it's you know, I'm gonna dig

1737
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:09.800
deep into weird dumb all the Sega
ages games right, came out of Japan

1738
01:45:09.880 --> 01:45:14.600
on all that shit? You know, just the the Yoshanoia game. Yes,

1739
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:19.560
god, yeah game? Yeah,
what is it? We played that

1740
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:26.880
on our Friday broadcast at some point
some one Friday broadcast for another It's like

1741
01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:30.640
diner dash okay, yeah, you
serve food, You hit buttons to serve

1742
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:34.359
food, and you have to do
it fast. Got it. It's not

1743
01:45:34.399 --> 01:45:40.159
bad. How much as Yoshanoia games
go? Yeah? Yes, how much

1744
01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:44.439
would you guys pay for let's just
say, like an EPs two game?

1745
01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:57.680
Shit? Yeah? What about ten? Nope? No too much? And

1746
01:45:57.800 --> 01:46:00.840
is that Is that equation worse if
you already own the game, Yes,

1747
01:46:00.920 --> 01:46:04.079
it's gonna be tough if they're if
they're curated and they have, like you,

1748
01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:10.600
a top shelf titles. Might pay
ten dollars for stuff. But if

1749
01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:13.560
it's just like you know, like
at a huge library where they've got a

1750
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:15.920
ton of stuff available, please no
more than five. If it's So Calm

1751
01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:19.520
too with functional online servers, I
would pay them ten dollars, okay,

1752
01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:25.199
just to see how many people actually
put their money where their mouth is on

1753
01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:29.000
that one. Because anytime any of
this stuff comes up, someone comes out

1754
01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:31.760
of the world. We're going the
So Calm fan base has been starved too

1755
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:35.640
long? Why won't you do this? And they always talk about it like

1756
01:46:35.680 --> 01:46:42.800
there's a million of them out there
waiting, and don't there are don't I

1757
01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:44.920
mean maybe, like, don't get
me wrong, I think So Calm two

1758
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.279
is fucking awesome, but I also
think it was very much of a specific

1759
01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:54.439
era, and that game today by
today's multiplayer standards, I don't I don't

1760
01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:59.479
know that you wouldn't necessarily sure find
the support that that some of those guys

1761
01:46:59.600 --> 01:47:02.560
think that they've got right. Method
man would show up. Okay, he's

1762
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:08.560
a socm fand uh yeah again.
For me, it just it would come

1763
01:47:08.560 --> 01:47:11.000
down to how much kind of extra
work they were doing around the edges of

1764
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:15.119
those things. Why trophy support would
go a long way. I don't know

1765
01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:18.600
that I'm interested in enough in trophies
to like replay a PS two games.

1766
01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:20.800
I'm not based on that. Man. It's like I would do it just

1767
01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:24.159
for the trophies, but it would
be a nice little like if you're going

1768
01:47:24.199 --> 01:47:26.520
to charge for games that people likely
already own, it would be a nice

1769
01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:29.560
gesture. So I don't want to. I don't want that to be the

1770
01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:31.239
reason for no. I'm just saying, like, like, find some ways

1771
01:47:31.279 --> 01:47:34.560
to dress up these games that you
were very possibly asking people to buy for

1772
01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:39.279
a second time. Yeah, you
know, what about like a static border

1773
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:43.760
on the side? Okay, yeah, what about actually CRT filter? Now

1774
01:47:43.760 --> 01:47:45.920
that I use a plasma, I
can't use those borders. I have to

1775
01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:48.359
turn them off. Oh right,
because that just it retains that ship.

1776
01:47:48.600 --> 01:47:54.159
I have the fucking Xbox logo in
the upper right corner screen like permanently.

1777
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:57.960
Yeah. I when win games like
when you walk out of the Vault and

1778
01:47:57.960 --> 01:48:00.279
fall Out four, nice and everything
turns white. Yeah, yeah, any

1779
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:03.439
any kind of like solid flat color. So I'm like, oh, look

1780
01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:09.800
at that Xbox logo. Shit,
yep, I've got I've had the ABC

1781
01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:14.680
seven logo for a while. Uh, and I've got the Destiny gun display.

1782
01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:18.800
That one hasn't gone away yet.
It finally went away from last year's

1783
01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:23.840
Destiny run, like from the one
hundred and fifty hours of Destiny I've played

1784
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:26.600
last year, it had finally faded, and then I played another hundred.

1785
01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.800
We'll see if that Xbox logo ever
goes away, because it's not there anymore

1786
01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:32.520
really current x Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, it probably should.

1787
01:48:32.520 --> 01:48:35.560
I think that that stuff does.
It could take a few weeks or months.

1788
01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:40.760
But street Fighter monitor with like the
data east font insert coin credit zero

1789
01:48:40.840 --> 01:48:45.199
burning, I don't think that's gonna
go away, but yeah, I wouldn't

1790
01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:48.079
want of course. Also that monitor
is completely broken, so it doesn't really

1791
01:48:48.079 --> 01:48:54.319
matter anyway. Uh, hose it
down, Yes, that's how you clean

1792
01:48:54.359 --> 01:49:00.680
it off. It needs to be
rewound. What I don't I've I was

1793
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.239
talking to someone. I might have
been Steve Lynn, probably was hand cranking

1794
01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:10.800
something some time ago about like kind
of getting CRTs rejuvenating CRTs, rewinding the

1795
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:15.119
wire or something about recoiling, coiling
those things that like little bombs. Yeah,

1796
01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:19.279
Like, isn't that last time I
was talking to anyone about it?

1797
01:49:19.279 --> 01:49:23.239
It was like there was one guy
in the area and he knew exactly how

1798
01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:26.359
to do it because his skills were
in demand. Super risky to open one

1799
01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:29.239
of those things up right, for
multiple reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1800
01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:31.520
I mean you could discharge the capacitor
and it's not gonna But if you

1801
01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:35.880
screw that up, man, ifinny
did it, you just lay the screwdriver

1802
01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:39.840
across the terminals or whatever and just
it makes a pop noise, then you're

1803
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:44.760
fine and yeah, or otherwise in
beds the screwdriver in the wall, well

1804
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:48.000
yeah, all right, well got
speed. No, I'm not touching that

1805
01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:50.079
fucking thing. It's been a plug
for long enough that I would think it

1806
01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:55.239
would have discharged. But I dude, I don't know. That was it

1807
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.720
for like actual real news. We've
got to We've got a pair of birthdays.

1808
01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:02.039
Oh you might want to know about. On Sunday the twenty second,

1809
01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:06.720
the Xbox three sixty turned ten.
Fuck yeah, no, right, do

1810
01:50:06.800 --> 01:50:12.039
you think that's bad shit? The
day before that, Saturday, the twenty

1811
01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:16.640
first, check my dates and make
yup Saturday twenty first, the super Famicom.

1812
01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:21.199
Granted, this is the Japanese release
twenty five, okay that I believe

1813
01:50:21.279 --> 01:50:25.520
it's the ten years on the three
sixty them, Like, that's actually worse

1814
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:29.439
recent because I have one of those
hooked up in my house, right.

1815
01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:32.319
I still remember Elijah Wood pulling that
out of his backpack. Oh man,

1816
01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:38.720
I remember sitting at G four when
pre orders for the Xboy, when pricing

1817
01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:43.239
got announced for the three sixty,
because I was down there hosting, co

1818
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:45.560
hosting the attack of the show.
Is that when that was Kevin Pereira.

1819
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.159
Is that the week that you guys
went down there and did like Cinema Tech.

1820
01:50:48.439 --> 01:50:51.079
That was a different week. I
went down there on my own separately,

1821
01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:56.039
Okay, I believe after the Cinema
Tech stuff. Oh wow, that

1822
01:50:56.159 --> 01:50:59.159
was all pre three sixty. That
was pre yeah, late two thousand and

1823
01:50:59.199 --> 01:51:03.279
five. Yeah, yeah, And
I was down there when they started taking

1824
01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:09.239
pre orders and then it was out
relatively soon after that that that fall or

1825
01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:14.800
whatever. Yeah, November twenty second. You just filled me with the uncontrollable

1826
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:18.000
desire for us to sit down and
watch that fucking MTV special and stream it

1827
01:51:18.119 --> 01:51:21.239
or something like, I haven't seen
that since it came out, since it

1828
01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:25.560
was new. Yeah, like I
want to see how embarrassing that thing might

1829
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:28.079
we We've talked about it enough,
but why don't we should? We should

1830
01:51:28.079 --> 01:51:31.479
get into that next year, if
not earlier, probably next year At this

1831
01:51:31.479 --> 01:51:33.359
point we got a lot of Game
of the Year stuff to prep. But

1832
01:51:33.439 --> 01:51:39.079
like the the watching of old press
conferences, yeah, because I haven't gone

1833
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:42.239
back to watch any of that stuff
in its entirety. So yeah, going

1834
01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:46.279
back to Jay Allard sitting on the
stage, going back to that that PS

1835
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:53.600
three press conference. Man, I
never actually saw that PS three when it

1836
01:51:53.640 --> 01:51:56.159
was in middle three and I was
busy, like I don't know. I

1837
01:51:56.239 --> 01:52:00.479
was there typing up notes on my
fucking T mobile sidekick, like the at

1838
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:01.439
the press conference you were in there? Oh shit, I was in the

1839
01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:03.319
booth. I think I was doing
write ups or something. Yeah, I

1840
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:05.640
was sitting there and everyone kind of
looking at each other going like, fucking

1841
01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:09.600
did you just say what? Really? Wow? Like no applause for that?

1842
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.800
Really? No shit? Well that's
how I remember it. We should

1843
01:52:12.800 --> 01:52:14.520
go back and watch it was for
it was for the price, right,

1844
01:52:14.560 --> 01:52:16.840
that that's the moment, right,
that's when they just dropped like a stone.

1845
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:20.279
I remember sitting in there for ten
or fifteen minutes after the press conference,

1846
01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:24.199
continuing to type notes because there was
an instant messenger it was it would

1847
01:52:24.199 --> 01:52:27.279
connect to all instant messenger. So
I think I was just like connected to

1848
01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:30.880
tour, right, and I was
just like tour thors and not yet or

1849
01:52:31.960 --> 01:52:38.000
not not the deep wet our news
guy. I was listing PS three fucking

1850
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:42.760
boomerang controllers on Silk Road Tour who
was running news, yeah, and kind

1851
01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:45.239
of just like getting notes back to
him. Yeah, I mean that was

1852
01:52:45.239 --> 01:52:48.600
pre ubiqual to smartphones, pre like
data plan everywhere, like getting like you

1853
01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:50.880
had a data plan. But that
was a pretty rare thing back then.

1854
01:52:51.079 --> 01:52:56.199
Getting information live out of that thing
to our news guy was like not a

1855
01:52:56.199 --> 01:53:00.720
trivial process. No, it required
me to buy that phone, yeah,

1856
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:03.359
which was a pretty fucking awesome phone. H T Mobile hamstrung it though.

1857
01:53:03.359 --> 01:53:05.760
It could have done customer ring tones, but they limitated because they wanted to

1858
01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:11.039
sell ring tones. Fuck that fucker's
fuck that. Uh. Did you guys

1859
01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:15.039
see the article the game Spot ran
over the weekend about the three sixty launch,

1860
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.399
like the heat, Like they talked
to I forget the who the author

1861
01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:24.319
is, but they talked to Robbie
Bach, they talked to I don't think

1862
01:53:24.319 --> 01:53:28.239
they talked to Allard directly. They
talked to Boyd Malterer, who was kind

1863
01:53:28.239 --> 01:53:30.479
of the head engineer on all three
xboxes. Although I didn't realize he just

1864
01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:33.720
left Microsoft in the last year.
He's out of there, but he was

1865
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:38.560
like he was the first person ever
logged into Xbox Live, Like he architected

1866
01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:42.880
Xbox Live, the consoles, X
and A like fucking everything they ever did

1867
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:45.600
for those things. Anyway, Like
they got a lot of really good quotes

1868
01:53:45.640 --> 01:53:48.319
out of those guys, like just
kind of talking about the run up too.

1869
01:53:49.640 --> 01:53:53.760
They talk about the actually the original
console and then the three sixty and

1870
01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:56.960
like kind of you know what they
learned first time, and yeah, the

1871
01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:00.000
plans they had and like they talk
about that moment at the PS three things,

1872
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:02.560
you know, where they they heard
the price live as it was announced

1873
01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.439
and like said that they like it
sounded like they were basically doing car whee,

1874
01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:11.079
you know, like that they were
coming in two hundred dollars cheaper than

1875
01:54:11.079 --> 01:54:15.119
the competition. Who they were like
like religiously bent like hell bent on defeating

1876
01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:18.319
You know, it sounds like it
was a really interesting article and it sounds

1877
01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:21.800
like just a crazy time for that
competition. Is it called how Xbox three

1878
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:26.520
sixty dominated a decade? Yes,
that's the article by Rob Crossley. Okay,

1879
01:54:26.600 --> 01:54:29.319
yeah, it's that thing is definitely
worth a read if you're if you're

1880
01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:32.520
into just like the crazy like competitive
stuff that goes on behind console launches and

1881
01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:36.359
like the way they get designed and
implemented and stuff. That thing is super

1882
01:54:36.399 --> 01:54:41.800
interesting. I still remember like being
backstage at like some launch party for that

1883
01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:45.159
they had Addie add E three or
was like their E three party or something

1884
01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:47.439
where they were kind of getting ready
to launch, and I'm seeing those guys

1885
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:56.760
like the brain Trust backstage fucking champagne
up bottled up the Yeah. Yeah,

1886
01:54:57.479 --> 01:55:00.800
like we were filming something in there. I forget what it was. I

1887
01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:02.239
don't know. We were run around
backstage of that thing to shoot stuff or

1888
01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:04.760
something, and yeah, those guys
were there. I mean, they made

1889
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:09.479
a fucking amazing console for the time, and think about how many standards that

1890
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:13.039
things set. Yeah, there was
a lot of like really smart, forward

1891
01:55:13.079 --> 01:55:15.359
looking things that the three sixty did
like there was a quote in there about

1892
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:18.359
and I like it's been so long
that I don't even think in these terms

1893
01:55:18.359 --> 01:55:24.600
anymore. But like basically that they
came up with the idea that you wouldn't

1894
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:28.039
go online to play a game with
this console. You would just be online

1895
01:55:28.079 --> 01:55:30.319
at all times. Yeah, and
like that seems like such a no brainer

1896
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:32.840
these days, you know, but
like at a time, like think about

1897
01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:35.439
what you had to do on like
the PS two or even the original Xbox

1898
01:55:35.479 --> 01:55:40.159
to get online. Yeah, I
was stupid. Like it was like practically

1899
01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:43.680
putting in like DNS settings for each
game individually, and like you only connected

1900
01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:45.199
up whenever you were actually logging in
to play a game, and then you

1901
01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:47.760
would quit out, you know.
And like the idea that this thing just

1902
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:51.439
connected to a service at the console
level, right, and then you never

1903
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:54.439
touched it again. Like that was
huge, you know. You know,

1904
01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:57.520
some of their some of their decisions
I think hamstrung them a little bit.

1905
01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.800
I mean it may have been something
that helped them be successful from sales perspective,

1906
01:56:00.840 --> 01:56:03.439
but like the removable hard drive thing
really sucked. Yeah, totally forcing

1907
01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:09.000
developers to account for systems that didn't
have a hard drive was was pretty shitty.

1908
01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:11.359
I mean obviously, like the Red
Ring stuff was a fucking nightmare.

1909
01:56:11.800 --> 01:56:14.680
Yes, they get into that in
the article. Definitely in terms of like,

1910
01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:16.960
yeah, fu man. You know, even in spite of that stuff,

1911
01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:19.760
for that console to have been,
you know, as big a deal

1912
01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:25.760
as it was, yeah, it
forced Sony to make a lot of big

1913
01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:28.840
changes. Yes, going into the
PS four. Yes, absolutely, you

1914
01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:32.920
say Sony learned a lot from Microsoft. Microsoft learned nothing from itself. It's

1915
01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:38.319
exactly what I would say, one
hundred percent that would be my assessment.

1916
01:56:39.199 --> 01:56:41.680
I mean, I stood to this
day think that the PS four is the

1917
01:56:41.680 --> 01:56:44.800
PS four is best in all the
ways that it's just emulating a three sixty

1918
01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.039
in terms of like easily getting you
in the parties and game invites and all

1919
01:56:48.039 --> 01:56:50.399
that shit. You know, it's
just like it does what a console should

1920
01:56:50.439 --> 01:56:53.239
do. Yeah, the stuff where
they went like, oh, we really

1921
01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:55.880
fucked this up last time. Yeah, let's just build it like they built

1922
01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:59.079
it right. And then Microsoft they
didn't build it like they Bill duck Shop

1923
01:56:59.159 --> 01:57:03.279
was so fucking left on their fucking
media empire. Yep, yep. Do

1924
01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:05.800
you think that the where do you
think where they're at now that they have

1925
01:57:05.840 --> 01:57:11.359
like completely unfucked that stuff that the
new Xbox One experience is not. Yeah,

1926
01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:14.399
they completely unfucked. They don't feel
like they're there yet either, like

1927
01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:16.239
they're they're getting there. That thing
is definitely better than it was, Yes,

1928
01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:21.239
I would. I would agree with
that for sure. During the hesitate

1929
01:57:21.439 --> 01:57:25.439
process on the new Xbox One,
stuff like the new Dash I thought was

1930
01:57:25.520 --> 01:57:27.880
clunky in a lot of way.
Sure, yeah, like spending a little

1931
01:57:27.880 --> 01:57:31.399
more time with it and also it
just being faster I think is good.

1932
01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:36.600
Yes, I don't hesitate to like
recommend it anymore. Yeah, Like even

1933
01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:41.399
like game savvy friends of mine,
I'm like, oh, man, I

1934
01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:43.600
don't know if you want to buy
an Xbox One. Now I think it's

1935
01:57:43.640 --> 01:57:46.760
okay because like before it was just
like the party stuff is just insane.

1936
01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:50.399
Yeah, and just all the friends
and stuff snapping, Like that stuff still

1937
01:57:50.439 --> 01:57:55.399
there and it's still annoying. But
like the first iteration of that was just

1938
01:57:55.560 --> 01:58:00.880
terrible. Just engineers, you know, right before that thing it's launch date,

1939
01:58:00.600 --> 01:58:02.479
I was in there going like,
man, I wish I could just

1940
01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:08.520
never snap anything ever, And they
seemed like taken aback, Like I assume

1941
01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:12.079
they must have data that people fucking
love snap or something, or they are

1942
01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:14.439
way behind it because I was just
like, man, snap and sucks.

1943
01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:16.159
I wish I could never snap anything
ever, and they were just like what,

1944
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:21.359
so, yeah, I don't know
many I feel like some of that

1945
01:58:21.439 --> 01:58:26.039
is maybe just like they just must
just have usage data that backs up these

1946
01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:31.199
things that I think still get in
the way. Yeah, it used to.

1947
01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:34.119
It used to feel like a chore
to do most things on an Xbox

1948
01:58:34.199 --> 01:58:40.359
One. And I still still,
even post this update, run into situations

1949
01:58:40.359 --> 01:58:44.199
where it's like the the my game
snaps section of that thing did not get

1950
01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:45.680
any updates and it still sucks.
Yeah, I would like to see that

1951
01:58:45.680 --> 01:58:48.119
thing get better, just because it
was just like it doesn't feel like it

1952
01:58:48.159 --> 01:58:50.520
patches like it. You know.
It's like there are times when I like

1953
01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:53.920
go to launch game and it says, oh, there's a patch, when

1954
01:58:54.119 --> 01:58:57.600
the whole thing is it's supposed to
be doing that in the background. I'll

1955
01:58:57.600 --> 01:59:00.279
go check and see that that patch
has been available for two days or something.

1956
01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:02.119
I just haven't played the game,
like it hasn't taken it automatically,

1957
01:59:02.239 --> 01:59:05.960
like there their philosophical goal of making
all that stuff transparent to the user is

1958
01:59:06.439 --> 01:59:10.520
noble, you know, like if
you never had to think about when patches

1959
01:59:10.520 --> 01:59:13.199
happened or saves we're sayinked or any
of that shit, it would be amazing.

1960
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:15.680
But like, it doesn't always work, you know, yep, And

1961
01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:17.199
when it doesn't work, it makes
you feel helpless because it's like, well,

1962
01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:18.680
is there a patch for this?
How do I get it? Right?

1963
01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:23.119
What do I do? Like the
PS four might beat you over the

1964
01:59:23.159 --> 01:59:25.319
head with that stuff a little more, but at least you know what it's

1965
01:59:25.319 --> 01:59:28.359
doing at all times, except when
you put a disk in that fucking thing

1966
01:59:28.560 --> 01:59:30.880
or a downloading a game for the
first time and that bar fills up,

1967
01:59:30.960 --> 01:59:36.079
but it is still secretly installed,
Like there is still shadow fucking darkness on

1968
01:59:36.159 --> 01:59:40.479
the fucking PS four of like what
are you doing? Yeah? Like when

1969
01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:43.600
I when I took a look and
went, oh, the Battlefront patch finished

1970
01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:45.800
downloading, and that bar is filled. I guess I can play the game

1971
01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:47.960
now, and then it's like,
hey, run around is Darth Vader while

1972
01:59:48.000 --> 01:59:51.279
the game finishes installing, like oh
fucking really, or like or like fall

1973
01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:55.239
Out did the GTA five thing of
like it? Like it? It becomes

1974
01:59:55.279 --> 01:59:58.039
bootable in about five seconds, but
all that does is take you to an

1975
01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:00.880
install screen Like that just feels like
them work around the console requirements of that

1976
02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:04.960
early boot thing in like the worst
like way possible for consumers. Like,

1977
02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:09.720
that's just not it's not cool.
Yeah, that's what Alien did. And

1978
02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:12.720
just like let you go into a
broken game. I would rather just wait.

1979
02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.119
I'd rather just like say, like, don't let me go into a

1980
02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:17.119
broken game. Don't let me go
into anything. Walk around the ship and

1981
02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:19.680
oh it's gone. Just make the
bar reel. Yeah, the bar that

1982
02:00:19.680 --> 02:00:23.199
shows on that thing prevent me from
launching the game until it's done. Yeah,

1983
02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:26.720
until you can actually early launch thing
on Xbox One and NPS four,

1984
02:00:26.760 --> 02:00:30.399
I think has just been a fucking
waste. Yeah, not not a lot

1985
02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:32.760
of games that use it. Well, I don't believe it anymore. I

1986
02:00:32.760 --> 02:00:36.399
don't want it. Also play a
game until it's one that. Did that

1987
02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:40.560
really happen in Alien? Yeah?
What it? Yeah? You could play

1988
02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:43.000
it and it just like couldn't load
stuff in. Yeah. I was walking

1989
02:00:43.079 --> 02:00:45.239
around like I was. I would
walk from one room of the ship to

1990
02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:49.359
the other, but into space and
back into the ship. Oh wow,

1991
02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:53.520
because the room didn't exist. Yeah, and you had started a new game.

1992
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:57.640
You were in the game proper this
wasn't some pre install like special mode

1993
02:00:57.680 --> 02:01:00.760
or something. No, yeah,
that's could say ready to start, and

1994
02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:03.000
I did, and like the scripting
didn't work, Like I watched this lady

1995
02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:09.159
and she looked at me. Metal
Gear doesn't say fan of pain. I

1996
02:01:09.239 --> 02:01:12.079
died in the hospital sequence at the
beginning, a fan of pain. And

1997
02:01:12.119 --> 02:01:15.760
it just goes like it would fade
out and go oh like it would to

1998
02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:17.760
like reload my checkpoint. It would
say installing, and it would say this

1999
02:01:17.800 --> 02:01:20.880
is gonna take three hundred seconds or
thirty seconds or ninety seconds or whatever,

2000
02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:25.720
and the numbers would never go down. I just had to quit the game

2001
02:01:26.239 --> 02:01:30.439
and then manually sit there and listen
to see if the disc was still spinning

2002
02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:33.199
in there, and then when it
finally stopped, then I could play metal

2003
02:01:33.239 --> 02:01:39.119
Gear. Like that stuff's just shitty. That's that's still that is still ongoing.

2004
02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:42.079
Ye. Some of some of the
new features in these new machines have

2005
02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:44.880
been pretty cool, like the inst
and on stuff I had pretty good luck

2006
02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:47.760
with. But that one that the
specifically the play before it's installed stuff is

2007
02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:50.520
just like it seems like a failed
experiment. I don't even use any of

2008
02:01:50.520 --> 02:01:55.880
the instant on stuff really, I
so my PS four goes like both systems

2009
02:01:55.880 --> 02:02:00.600
I have powered down to the quick
on state, but I manually quit Xbox

2010
02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:01.720
one games when I'm done with him, I hit start, I got down

2011
02:02:01.760 --> 02:02:04.760
to quit and quit man because I
never trust that shit. I've had to

2012
02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:10.039
go bad too many times and I'd
never come back where It'll just open it

2013
02:02:10.079 --> 02:02:12.279
up and I'll be like, you're
not on the server, quit the menu.

2014
02:02:12.640 --> 02:02:15.399
You're right. Any any game,
any game that's got persistent online stuff,

2015
02:02:15.439 --> 02:02:17.520
like like blood Borne handled it really
badly. I remember when because that

2016
02:02:17.199 --> 02:02:20.399
pet that feature was patched in like
right around the time Bloodborne came out.

2017
02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:25.640
There are some other examples, but
yeah, any game that tries to keep

2018
02:02:25.640 --> 02:02:28.079
you connected to a server, say
like, oh, you're logging status has

2019
02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.439
change and the profile change happened,
We're going to kick it back to the

2020
02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:31.159
menu. It's like, well,
if you're kicking me back to the menu,

2021
02:02:31.279 --> 02:02:33.640
then like, why am I?
I can't trust this to keep my

2022
02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:39.079
save? Have you guys tried to
suspend with tumb Rader because because I was

2023
02:02:39.439 --> 02:02:43.359
This was both before tumb rator was
out and I was on the an Xoe

2024
02:02:43.520 --> 02:02:46.000
preview, so I couldn't trust any
of what was happening, But tumb rater

2025
02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.520
failed to suspend. Every single time
I would turn it back on, it

2026
02:02:48.520 --> 02:02:54.840
would pop me back to the title
screen, which was a super frustrating thing.

2027
02:02:54.920 --> 02:02:57.760
But like, yeah, I've had
a couple I'm trying to think,

2028
02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:01.359
like I obsessively quit apps, yet
I can understand it is it is shoddy

2029
02:03:01.479 --> 02:03:04.560
enough in some cases, Like I
said, anything that's got any online stuff,

2030
02:03:04.560 --> 02:03:09.159
I'll do that too. But like
I want to say it was I

2031
02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:11.840
think it was when I was reviewing
since I'd Overdrive last year, Like I

2032
02:03:11.880 --> 02:03:16.239
played through I think like most of
that game from the first time that I

2033
02:03:16.239 --> 02:03:20.000
ever booted it, you know,
just every time I was I wanted to

2034
02:03:20.039 --> 02:03:23.359
stop playing it, I just put
it in suspend and then came back to

2035
02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:26.199
it. To the point that I
got through like two thirds or more of

2036
02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:29.680
that game from the first time I
had hit the title screen and started a

2037
02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:30.920
new game, and it was it
felt awesome, Like I was like,

2038
02:03:30.920 --> 02:03:32.880
this is how this is supposed to
work. It's a neat idea. I

2039
02:03:32.920 --> 02:03:38.560
just it's gone wrong enough times that
I will probably never trust I understand that

2040
02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:43.880
spend the rest of this generation quitting
game. Yeah, I understand that there.

2041
02:03:43.920 --> 02:03:46.359
That's right, that's right, yep, mister Rossetti coming for me.

2042
02:03:47.239 --> 02:03:54.399
It's true. Never know with those
guys. Uh. I also pulled the

2043
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:57.000
story about the new Vacaria chronicles,
but I don't know that anybody here.

2044
02:03:57.000 --> 02:04:01.079
Actually I love those games, cares. This is this is really interesting that

2045
02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:05.600
you know, it's not necessarily a
tactical, it's more JRPG. Yes,

2046
02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:10.399
saying yes does that change your interest
level a little bit? A little bit?

2047
02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:13.439
And I think the sales might be
better because of this, But the

2048
02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:16.760
hardcore Valkyria fans, I don't know. Man, We're in a post xcom

2049
02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:20.119
world. Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point. But this is

2050
02:04:20.159 --> 02:04:25.479
but this is less x com right, I know. Wait, I don't

2051
02:04:25.560 --> 02:04:30.079
understand. I don't I don't understand
why they're going more JRPG. Oh I'm

2052
02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:32.600
sorry. I thought you were defending
we're living in a post I'm sorry.

2053
02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:35.279
I thought you were defending their choice
to get away from the strategy stuff.

2054
02:04:36.279 --> 02:04:40.079
Uh. Yeah, because that's exactly
what they're doing. Well, keep in

2055
02:04:40.079 --> 02:04:42.720
mind that Xcom two is not coming
to consoles right off the bat because it

2056
02:04:42.760 --> 02:04:45.600
did not sell particularly well. So
that's that's true. The post xcom World

2057
02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:50.319
didn't necessarily happen to that many people. Yeah, that's a good point.

2058
02:04:50.439 --> 02:04:56.159
Yeah, this is a real time
action RPG, says Austin's story. I

2059
02:04:56.239 --> 02:04:58.680
like, yeah, like that world
man. Yeah it was. It was

2060
02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:00.960
a cool but I love the play
just so much. So yeah, we'll

2061
02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:04.880
see what people think. A little
skeptical. Yeah, well, anyway,

2062
02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:09.960
that is happening for the people who
were interested, I'm surprised. I'm surprised.

2063
02:05:10.239 --> 02:05:11.960
Oh you know when they put it
back out on Steam and it did

2064
02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:15.159
really well. Yeah, I bought
two copies of that. Well, like,

2065
02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:20.840
I need to make sure that no
jeeze man. Oh all right,

2066
02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:25.560
uh well, thanks for doing your
part. I'm doing what I can.

2067
02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:28.119
All right, let's read a few
emails before we get the hell out of

2068
02:05:28.760 --> 02:05:32.199
Yeah, I do too. Bomb
Cast at giant bomb dot com. We

2069
02:05:32.239 --> 02:05:38.560
had a last week's email segment with
a cliffhanger. Remember I had that.

2070
02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:47.600
I teased a second email about the
illicit narcotics pharmaceuticals with bootlegs video game characters

2071
02:05:48.119 --> 02:05:51.800
on them, and then I forgot
to bring the the picture with me.

2072
02:05:53.760 --> 02:05:57.560
Well I have the picture. Now
we're gonna pop it up. I just

2073
02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:00.359
ears right now, I just have
to load it first. I will put

2074
02:06:00.359 --> 02:06:03.880
this. I will put this in
the show notes on the site for this

2075
02:06:03.960 --> 02:06:06.840
if you want to see this.
Wait, I think it is the same

2076
02:06:06.840 --> 02:06:10.319
one. Yes, it's the one
I showed you last week and you said

2077
02:06:10.359 --> 02:06:13.600
you would let me just read it. Okay, I'm gonna put this in

2078
02:06:13.640 --> 02:06:16.640
the show notes. Okay, should
I not snot a family friendly website?

2079
02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:20.720
That's true. Okay, that picture
is. Yeah, it's kind of fucked

2080
02:06:20.760 --> 02:06:27.520
up. It's pretty messed up.
Jesse from Rhode Island, subject lines street

2081
02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:30.800
fighter being used for boner pills.
Yeah, question mark, exclamation mark.

2082
02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:34.760
I was in a Chinese market with
my family over the weekend, as one

2083
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:38.920
does in a Chinese family, and
out of curiosity, I went over to

2084
02:06:38.960 --> 02:06:43.239
the herbal medication section. The section
is always a great source of amusement to

2085
02:06:43.279 --> 02:06:47.399
me because there are always tons of
Chinese male enhancement supplements with goofy ass pictures

2086
02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:53.199
and poorly translated information on the box. While I was looking around there,

2087
02:06:53.239 --> 02:06:58.439
I found one that had a picture
of an angry Reu U and Chun Lee

2088
02:06:58.840 --> 02:07:02.520
Pat the passion passionate. Yeah,
I'm like slightly censoring the language and female

2089
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:08.439
These particular pills were called the Stree
Overlord. Yeah, and they promised to

2090
02:07:08.520 --> 02:07:13.760
make it big, long lasting,
and increasing sperms. Oh. I'm now

2091
02:07:13.840 --> 02:07:17.079
wondering how long this male enhancement company
has gotten away with stealing capcom characters because

2092
02:07:17.079 --> 02:07:20.359
I'm assuming they didn't license them.
Well, it's not only that they're like

2093
02:07:20.439 --> 02:07:24.680
stealing the Capcom characters, Like it
looks like Reu is just straight up assaulting

2094
02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:28.760
Chune. Yeah, it's it's fucking
crazy. It's it's this picture is really

2095
02:07:29.079 --> 02:07:32.399
it just looked like angry, passionate
love making. Yes, the I pulled

2096
02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:36.159
it on explicit though. I also
also it looks like fan art. Yes,

2097
02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:40.520
like it it has to be pulled
this off of deviant Art and just

2098
02:07:40.520 --> 02:07:45.640
screened it onto the front of theirs
to be fan art. Uh, you're

2099
02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:48.760
right. What's weird you're saying it's
not official Capcom because I remember that part

2100
02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:54.960
of the canon where Reu. Yeah
right, let me see this picture again,

2101
02:07:55.000 --> 02:08:01.399
because I'm picturing something that's pretty damn
explicit. Stre Overlord exceed Viagra mc

2102
02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:05.079
alice. Uh. I don't know
if you can see it from over the

2103
02:08:05.079 --> 02:08:07.479
table here that's cropped. Oh yeah, you can't see the whole picture there.

2104
02:08:07.600 --> 02:08:11.760
Also, it's it's a little weird
because chen Lee appears to be clothed

2105
02:08:11.800 --> 02:08:15.039
and Reu is completely naked. Right, Hello, we can't see the entire

2106
02:08:15.079 --> 02:08:18.359
cover here, so I've I've purchased
these before. I'm sorry. Well,

2107
02:08:18.680 --> 02:08:22.199
yeah, that Atlanta, I was
running like a like a fighting game tournament

2108
02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:26.039
and I found these. Okay,
you found some Street Overlo, found some

2109
02:08:26.079 --> 02:08:30.880
Street Overlord and immediately bought them out
and use it as like you know prize.

2110
02:08:31.119 --> 02:08:35.319
Okay, a tournament. It wasn't. It wasn't just the pharmaceuticals though,

2111
02:08:35.359 --> 02:08:37.079
right. And you say you found
say that they were condoms Okay,

2112
02:08:37.279 --> 02:08:41.760
same brand though, yeah, like
Street Overlord and with that image, I

2113
02:08:41.800 --> 02:08:45.199
mean accept no substitute. So it's
a name you contrast. So the image

2114
02:08:45.199 --> 02:08:50.399
that Brad's gonna put in the show
notes iss from like from us lower half

2115
02:08:50.439 --> 02:08:56.399
down. But yeah, I definitely
remembered seeing yeah, full frontal stuff.

2116
02:08:56.239 --> 02:09:01.159
Okay, all right, yeah,
yeah they were connected. I forget what

2117
02:09:01.239 --> 02:09:03.880
the other product was we talked about
last week. Are you saying they made

2118
02:09:03.880 --> 02:09:07.880
the Beast with two backs? Yes, two became one because yes, yes,

2119
02:09:09.039 --> 02:09:11.800
as the Spice girls would say something
like that, they were doing.

2120
02:09:13.000 --> 02:09:18.359
Uh, it's it's pretty disturbing.
Yeah, I just play street Fighter too,

2121
02:09:18.840 --> 02:09:22.560
become an overlord. Oh of course
I don't need pills. Yes,

2122
02:09:22.880 --> 02:09:28.159
right, definitely not keeping yourself.
You just you play street Fighter two increasing

2123
02:09:28.199 --> 02:09:33.279
sperms, right, all right?
That only works if you put the joystick

2124
02:09:33.279 --> 02:09:35.439
in your lap, right of course. Okay, if you put it on

2125
02:09:35.399 --> 02:09:37.880
a table, the effects are reduced. Yes, that does make sense.

2126
02:09:39.800 --> 02:09:43.039
Uh, Anthony writes in and just
asks if any of us are Mystery Science

2127
02:09:43.079 --> 02:09:46.119
Theater fans and if we think the
revival will stay true to the series.

2128
02:09:48.199 --> 02:09:52.600
Was that funny? I'm a big
fan. Okay, have an old story.

2129
02:09:52.720 --> 02:09:56.279
Yeah, but what does true to
the What does that mean? I

2130
02:09:56.279 --> 02:09:58.439
don't know. It's weird. I
never I've never seen it. I don't

2131
02:09:58.479 --> 02:10:01.119
I don't know, I don't have
I don't have a basis. Damn.

2132
02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:03.079
Yeah, I don't know how I
made it this far. That was a

2133
02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:05.279
big part of my growing up.
Like I could name some of the characters

2134
02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:09.199
just through cultural osmosis, but I
haven't actually sat down and watched so M

2135
02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:13.479
Street three K got me laid one
time. I was a big feel like

2136
02:10:13.479 --> 02:10:18.119
you've tied. Yeah, this this
came up in a Yeah, Jeff and

2137
02:10:18.159 --> 02:10:20.560
I recorded something. I don't know
if it ever aired, but it was

2138
02:10:20.600 --> 02:10:24.000
just kind of us bullshitting of my
street fighter in his car. This this

2139
02:10:24.039 --> 02:10:26.279
came up. Oh right, that's
where that came up. Yeah, yeah,

2140
02:10:26.279 --> 02:10:28.800
okay, and uh yeah. I
had started dating this girl, right.

2141
02:10:28.840 --> 02:10:31.840
She was like, you know,
living down in her parents basement and

2142
02:10:31.880 --> 02:10:35.399
everything. And I got all dressed
up and and and stuff, and I

2143
02:10:35.439 --> 02:10:37.840
needed like an undershirt and all that
I really had at the time was like

2144
02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:41.039
my MST three K shirt. But
you know, I put a nice button

2145
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:43.159
up shirt on and stuff, you
know, because it was a first date.

2146
02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:48.239
Anyway, we ended up down in
her room and we're just we're talking

2147
02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:50.640
shop stuff. It's like, oh
wow, why do you into what kind

2148
02:10:50.640 --> 02:10:52.920
of TV shows? And she's like, do you like MST three K?

2149
02:10:54.279 --> 02:10:58.079
And I said, well, I
just my shirt and like pulled it open

2150
02:10:58.239 --> 02:11:03.520
like Superman style and showed it my
m MST three K. Sure. Yeah,

2151
02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:05.479
yeah, we totally did this.
Rest was she just kept going from

2152
02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:09.800
there. We just kept going.
Man, yeah, smooth yet, I

2153
02:11:11.079 --> 02:11:13.439
that's a it's a really great show. Yeah, yep, very formative.

2154
02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:18.000
Yeah, what was what was that
like? Late nineties early nineties. Really,

2155
02:11:18.159 --> 02:11:22.159
yeah, I was watching it.
I started watching it when I was

2156
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:26.560
like a junior in high school.
Wow, like two, I didn't know

2157
02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:30.239
it was that old. I wasn't
all the Minneapolis things, I want to

2158
02:11:30.239 --> 02:11:33.279
say, like those old like old
old Minneapolis only episodes for like eighty nine

2159
02:11:33.399 --> 02:11:37.520
or something like that. So that
show was around for a very long time.

2160
02:11:37.600 --> 02:11:39.800
Yeah, I remember it vividly.
I love it. I love I

2161
02:11:39.840 --> 02:11:43.239
love Joel. That's a host.
I think he's my favorite. Me too.

2162
02:11:43.560 --> 02:11:45.520
Mike's really good too. Yeah.
So, like you know, in

2163
02:11:45.560 --> 02:11:48.039
the post Mistry through K years,
you know, they kind of split off

2164
02:11:48.039 --> 02:11:52.439
and uh, you know, doing
rift tracks and Cinematic Titanic and stuff like

2165
02:11:52.479 --> 02:11:56.439
that, and and they've kind of
traded cast a little bit here and there.

2166
02:11:56.199 --> 02:12:00.840
But yeah, they're they're I think
MST three case off is now finally

2167
02:12:00.880 --> 02:12:05.279
available like on the riff track site. So really yeah, so they're finally

2168
02:12:05.319 --> 02:12:09.399
kind of coming together, it seems
that. But this reboot, I don't

2169
02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:11.640
know a ton about it. It
seems to me it's like Jonah Ray is

2170
02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:16.119
the new dude in space, like
Felicia Day is one of the new mad

2171
02:12:16.199 --> 02:12:20.880
scientists. Weird, Okay, and
like they're they're still happen to get to

2172
02:12:20.920 --> 02:12:26.079
announce he's a he's a stand up. Okay, it's a funny dude,

2173
02:12:26.840 --> 02:12:28.960
one of those funny mens. So
I yeah, any idea why the original

2174
02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:33.359
people are not just in it again? Their their story is to you know,

2175
02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:35.319
is that they want to like kind
of they don't want to recreate the

2176
02:12:35.359 --> 02:12:39.680
old thing. They want to try
to continue to push it forward, and

2177
02:12:39.680 --> 02:12:41.319
they'll be involved in you know,
like I think Joel is involved in like

2178
02:12:41.319 --> 02:12:46.359
a writing capacity, but not necessarily
in a starring in it capacity, which

2179
02:12:46.319 --> 02:12:50.439
I see why one would do that. But that was at the point where

2180
02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:54.239
I was like, Okay, that's
cool that you're making this. I'm like

2181
02:12:54.039 --> 02:13:00.000
way less interested in it because they
were like, you know the last few

2182
02:13:00.079 --> 02:13:03.079
seasons of the Mic years where I
was just like totally checked out, like

2183
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:07.319
kind of once the whole Mad Scientist
crew had rotated, I was just like,

2184
02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:11.039
yeah, like I was kind of
not I was done at that point,

2185
02:13:11.159 --> 02:13:16.720
So like, this doesn't necessarily hold
a ton of appeal. Also,

2186
02:13:18.399 --> 02:13:24.039
they changed culture so much that there
is zero shortage of people talking over things.

2187
02:13:24.680 --> 02:13:26.840
I mean, it's literally, yes, a big part of what we

2188
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:35.399
do indeed, so like bringing it
back, it doesn't necessarily Yeah, it's

2189
02:13:35.439 --> 02:13:37.439
it's you know, it's not entering
a unique space. It's a space where

2190
02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:41.840
there are tons of people doing that. I mean, like riff tracks allows

2191
02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:43.439
you to upload your own stuff there
and like sell it, you know,

2192
02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:48.439
like fan overdubs that you know,
everybody's really doing their own thing. I

2193
02:13:48.439 --> 02:13:50.439
didn't know that. Wow. Yeah, like they've kind of democratized yeah,

2194
02:13:50.680 --> 02:13:54.600
you know, movie commentary, riffing
on movies, you know. So it's

2195
02:13:54.640 --> 02:14:01.760
it's such a different world now for
that stuff that like my only interesting yeah,

2196
02:14:01.800 --> 02:14:05.000
my only interest in it is one
of nostalgia. So and I already

2197
02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:09.840
have a lot of those old episodes, like I can go watch Mitchell over

2198
02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:13.960
and over again. I bought a
VHS copy of Actual Mitchell Wow, because

2199
02:14:15.039 --> 02:14:16.680
I wanted to see the parts that
got cut out in the episode of the

2200
02:14:16.680 --> 02:14:24.800
show. Mitchell's a fucking badass man. But that's a just a movie,

2201
02:14:24.800 --> 02:14:26.439
I take it. Yes, yeah, it is the final Joel episode of

2202
02:14:26.479 --> 02:14:33.199
the show, starring Joe Don big
Sky. All Right, Monos The Hands

2203
02:14:33.199 --> 02:14:35.520
of Fate was always the one I
heard about back in the day. Yeah,

2204
02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:41.520
I started watching it. It was
the season when they were doing tons

2205
02:14:41.560 --> 02:14:43.479
and tons of Sandy Frank stuff.
So it was a lot of like it

2206
02:14:43.520 --> 02:14:52.119
was all the gammera movie and like
Fugitive Alien and uh, the first episode

2207
02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:58.199
I ever saw was pod people like
that anyway, teenagers from Mars, I

2208
02:14:58.279 --> 02:15:01.760
think. But yeah, it's that's
just such a huge thing, and you

2209
02:15:01.800 --> 02:15:09.079
know, I I don't need it
brought back, especially in the form that

2210
02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:11.479
they see the direction they seem to
be heading in. I look at and

2211
02:15:11.479 --> 02:15:15.000
go like, you should totally do
that. And that's that's cool that that

2212
02:15:15.039 --> 02:15:16.960
people want to go to bat for
this and do it and and we'll see

2213
02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:20.279
how it goes and maybe it'll be
great. They're asking a lot. Yeah,

2214
02:15:20.239 --> 02:15:22.800
it's like two point two million.
They hit it already, really,

2215
02:15:22.920 --> 02:15:26.239
I think, so this is a
crowdfunding thing. Yeah, yeah, that's

2216
02:15:26.319 --> 02:15:33.199
they launched the kickstarter. That's crazy. So I will be curious to see

2217
02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:35.399
what the general opinion of that is. But also, like I totally didn't

2218
02:15:35.399 --> 02:15:39.920
follow any of the riff tracks or
cinematic Titanic stuff, like it's something yeah

2219
02:15:39.920 --> 02:15:41.760
a little bit, you know,
just because you know it's a big Joel

2220
02:15:41.800 --> 02:15:43.720
fan. Yeah. Yeah, at
some point I was just kind of felt

2221
02:15:43.760 --> 02:15:46.640
like I was like I had had
my fill of that kind of format and

2222
02:15:46.920 --> 02:15:50.760
riff tracks is amazing though. Yeah, yeah, I love that their their

2223
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:54.720
format. It's just the way that
they you know, sell the audio track

2224
02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:56.880
and kind of watch along and stuff
like that, and they'd have a bunch

2225
02:15:56.880 --> 02:15:58.920
of shorts and stuff and it's just
a commentary track, right. Yeah,

2226
02:16:00.159 --> 02:16:03.039
that's how they got away from having
to go license the movies. They're just

2227
02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:07.000
selling the audio to go over it, which is a smart innovation. Yeah,

2228
02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:09.439
that's a good way to adapt,
and it lets them do movies they

2229
02:16:09.479 --> 02:16:13.039
would never be able to afford.
So they still our idea from filming forties.

2230
02:16:13.239 --> 02:16:16.760
Of course. You know, I
like Cheap Seats, which is the

2231
02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:22.319
Sklar Brothers, twin brothers stand up
comedians. They have a podcast Country the

2232
02:16:22.720 --> 02:16:26.800
Uh. They did a show for
ESPN Classic that was them going into ESPN's

2233
02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:33.040
tape library and watching super old stuff
and doing mystery science theater stuff a while.

2234
02:16:33.719 --> 02:16:35.440
Uh did they have spelling bees and
such. They didn't do the little

2235
02:16:35.479 --> 02:16:41.000
they did not do out thing they
would. They would kind of do cutaways

2236
02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:43.479
and stuff like that. Was almost
gonna say, we're gonna have to do

2237
02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:46.799
that for old press conferences at this
right now that that I thought that was

2238
02:16:46.840 --> 02:16:50.520
a really that was a killer take
on the basic concept. They actually had

2239
02:16:50.520 --> 02:16:54.959
one episode that had mystery science theater
show up at the bottom of their episode.

2240
02:16:54.399 --> 02:17:01.399
Was actually pretty funny. It's pretty
good people that like cybersleuthink might be

2241
02:17:01.479 --> 02:17:05.159
able to find something about me on
the Cinematic Titanic website. Oh yeah,

2242
02:17:05.239 --> 02:17:07.079
yeah, okay, I have him
look around. All right, Die has

2243
02:17:07.079 --> 02:17:13.680
been cast. Yeah, go for
it. Next email comes in from Reagan.

2244
02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:16.639
Jeff, I feel like you may
be able to help here the Gipper.

2245
02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.399
No, not that one, I
don't think. Well, no,

2246
02:17:20.600 --> 02:17:24.959
that's all right. Hi guys.
I am a relatively new convert to the

2247
02:17:24.959 --> 02:17:28.040
show, but my gentleman friend is
a long time listener, and he suggested

2248
02:17:28.040 --> 02:17:31.520
I write to you to help me
remember a game from my youth that,

2249
02:17:31.639 --> 02:17:35.079
for the life of me, I
cannot recall. It was a Sega Genesis

2250
02:17:35.159 --> 02:17:39.200
game that I played as part of
the Sega channel that consisted of driving what

2251
02:17:39.280 --> 02:17:43.760
I think was a tiny ship across
the screen to trap alien monsters. Once

2252
02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:46.559
the ship crossed the screen, the
screen space was reduced to that new size,

2253
02:17:46.600 --> 02:17:50.559
the goal being to reduce the space
to such a small size that the

2254
02:17:50.559 --> 02:17:52.159
creature was no longer able to maneuver, so you could move on to the

2255
02:17:52.200 --> 02:17:56.719
next level. The more of the
screen you had rendered obsolete, the higher

2256
02:17:56.760 --> 02:18:00.399
your score would be. The monster
would move faster as the screen got smaller,

2257
02:18:00.440 --> 02:18:03.959
and might even shrink, thereby forcing
you to work even faster at reducing

2258
02:18:03.959 --> 02:18:07.280
space. Anyway, it was a
really great game, and no one seems

2259
02:18:07.280 --> 02:18:09.000
to remember it, and my googling
attempts have been fruitless. If anyone can

2260
02:18:09.040 --> 02:18:11.920
help, it's you, please put
me out of my misery. I don't

2261
02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:16.479
think i've played it. I think
it was exclusive too. Probably was it

2262
02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:20.639
sounds like Kicks? Yeah, it's
it sounds like a Kicks derivative. Is

2263
02:18:20.680 --> 02:18:24.360
that what kicks? Those effectively kicks
qi X Yeah, but this is not

2264
02:18:26.399 --> 02:18:31.639
probably not Kicks, but also like
a zillion Kicks derivatives came out in arcades

2265
02:18:31.719 --> 02:18:35.840
and most of them were porn.
Okay, I feel like that would have

2266
02:18:35.840 --> 02:18:39.799
been a key piece information here.
So but that's yeah, I mean this

2267
02:18:39.879 --> 02:18:43.399
is on if this is on Sega
channel, it's not. Yeah, uh,

2268
02:18:43.520 --> 02:18:46.120
it's not going to be that Jason
is pulling up his phone. I'm

2269
02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:48.799
popping up on my laptop. I'm
gonna give it one Google search that might

2270
02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:52.680
that might be the missing piece of
information. Saga Channel, Genesis Kicks like

2271
02:18:52.920 --> 02:18:56.239
like kicks Clone might be enough to
narrow it down because there might not have

2272
02:18:56.239 --> 02:19:01.239
been that many of those on the
Saga channel. SACA channel was magical for

2273
02:19:01.280 --> 02:19:03.520
me. Did you use it?
I had it back in the day.

2274
02:19:03.600 --> 02:19:05.959
Yeah. Was it you could download
demos for games? Yeah, that's crazy.

2275
02:19:07.040 --> 02:19:09.399
Was that that was the one from
a coax cable? That was the

2276
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:11.959
one over cable cable TV? Okay, so you paid the cable company for

2277
02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:15.920
that? Is that right? Yeah, they provided you with the hardware.

2278
02:19:15.959 --> 02:19:20.559
I always get Saga Channel mixed up
with like sell aviue stuff. Yeah,

2279
02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:24.520
it's different delivery. But yeah,
you stuck you jack this thing into your

2280
02:19:24.559 --> 02:19:28.200
Genesis and then you plugged a coax
cable into it, and that was nuts.

2281
02:19:28.319 --> 02:19:31.760
Did the coax plug into a thing
that plugged into the cartridge slot?

2282
02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:35.840
Yeah? Wow, that's super weird. Yeah, man, And you turn

2283
02:19:35.920 --> 02:19:37.079
it on, it would just it
would present you with a list of games.

2284
02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:41.159
Wow. Did you have to pay
by time? You paid by the

2285
02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:45.040
month and then you could just play
anything on there? Yeah? Wow?

2286
02:19:45.360 --> 02:19:46.959
And it was you know, we've
talked about it before, but it's such

2287
02:19:46.959 --> 02:19:50.479
a weird thing because the you know, basically that thing just had RAM in

2288
02:19:50.559 --> 02:19:52.559
it. The cartridge you know,
so would download games into the RAM,

2289
02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:56.600
and the RAM was limited. There
were Genesis cartridges that were bigger than the

2290
02:19:56.600 --> 02:20:00.559
Sega Channel RAM. So Mortal Kombat
three came out, and it was it

2291
02:20:00.600 --> 02:20:03.639
would show up on the Sega Channel
in two parts, weird, and it

2292
02:20:03.639 --> 02:20:07.319
would be like different characters would be
available depending on which part you download it,

2293
02:20:07.040 --> 02:20:11.840
because it just couldn't fit all that
stuff into memory. I'm looking at

2294
02:20:11.879 --> 02:20:15.520
a list of Sega Channel exclusive games
that someone tried to put together in twenty

2295
02:20:15.559 --> 02:20:22.520
twelve, and nothing on here.
Sounds like Sonic Eracer. M Sonic Eracer

2296
02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:26.479
might actually be the game. Wait, it's like Sonic the Hedgehog Sonic.

2297
02:20:28.719 --> 02:20:31.040
I'm gonna get no, no,
no, it's yes, but that that

2298
02:20:31.159 --> 02:20:37.840
is probably not actually the game.
No, Sonic Eracer is like a Match

2299
02:20:37.879 --> 02:20:41.760
three kind of thing. I don't
know. I was an ex band guy.

2300
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:45.559
Yeah, given up search. Well, if it's Kicks Clone, maybe

2301
02:20:45.559 --> 02:20:48.959
that's enough to narrow it down.
Yeah, bare Minium, go play some

2302
02:20:50.079 --> 02:20:54.959
Kicks that'll probably scratch the same at
least, sorry Reagan, which ride.

2303
02:20:54.319 --> 02:21:00.680
Uh, I feel like we got
a reasonably good track record of figuring out

2304
02:21:00.719 --> 02:21:05.479
games based on people's kind of you
know, checkered descriptions. Yeah. I

2305
02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:09.879
mean a game called Ultimate Kicks came
out for the Genesis, who might not

2306
02:21:09.920 --> 02:21:11.719
have been if it was not an
exclusive game. That's I mean. They

2307
02:21:11.760 --> 02:21:16.520
had demos on there. Yeah.
Yeah, and they had full retail games,

2308
02:21:16.559 --> 02:21:18.280
you know, not not Dan Date
or anything, but you know,

2309
02:21:18.319 --> 02:21:22.000
those certainly showed up as well.
So I think that's where I first played

2310
02:21:22.000 --> 02:21:26.920
two Jam and Earl. How long
were the downloads? Did you a long

2311
02:21:26.000 --> 02:21:28.319
time? Being very long? Yeah? I don't think they were that long

2312
02:21:28.360 --> 02:21:35.120
either. Yeah. All right,
Well we gave it our best shot.

2313
02:21:35.200 --> 02:21:39.680
All right, yea check the podcast
comments. Maybe some yeah, intrepid listener,

2314
02:21:39.760 --> 02:21:43.159
Yes, absolutely could help out.
Somebody might be able to figure that

2315
02:21:43.159 --> 02:21:48.000
out. Uh. Greg from Romstein
Air the air Force base is an air

2316
02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:52.200
force base or it just says air
base. I'm sorry in Germany rights in

2317
02:21:52.360 --> 02:21:58.600
and says says do hosts, Yes, go on, that's all I got.

2318
02:21:58.639 --> 02:22:03.719
Okay, all right, Greg says, With Sunday having been the tenth

2319
02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:07.120
anniversary of the three sixties, North
American launched. I'm wondering how many three

2320
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:11.639
sixties you each went through, as
well as if you've ever had any other

2321
02:22:11.639 --> 02:22:15.719
piece of hardware that broke through new
no fault of your own, well before

2322
02:22:15.719 --> 02:22:18.319
it would have been reasonable for it
stopped working. Personally, I had a

2323
02:22:18.360 --> 02:22:22.200
three sixty bought in spring two thousand
and seven that red ringed. After a

2324
02:22:22.200 --> 02:22:24.120
few months, I was able to
send it in and get a refurbished one.

2325
02:22:24.159 --> 02:22:26.959
I later had the refurbished one to
have the disk drive start to fail

2326
02:22:28.000 --> 02:22:33.239
about a year later. Let's see, sorry, he goes through, He

2327
02:22:33.280 --> 02:22:39.000
goes through the full litany of his
Xbox three sixties, let's say, and

2328
02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:41.719
finally he says, I'm happy that
my Elite is still working. Fine,

2329
02:22:41.760 --> 02:22:45.920
six plus years later, my first
Elite red ringed. But that's it.

2330
02:22:46.040 --> 02:22:48.200
Really, My launched three sixty works, but the first black one I bought

2331
02:22:48.479 --> 02:22:54.440
broke. FU launched three sixty that
still works, And I thought that was

2332
02:22:54.479 --> 02:22:58.479
like unheard of. You are in
the minority. I thought, it's partially

2333
02:22:58.520 --> 02:23:01.159
because I replaced it with an Elite. Oh would just stop using it?

2334
02:23:01.200 --> 02:23:03.840
Yeah, okay, okay, So
like when it was how long has it

2335
02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:07.920
been since you like regularly turned it
on and used no idea. Okay,

2336
02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:11.399
nine years, okay years okay,
So all right, So because I always

2337
02:23:11.399 --> 02:23:13.159
thought the whole thing with the launch
ones or that first design was that like

2338
02:23:13.239 --> 02:23:16.239
they were almost guaranteed. They were
pretty much all like one hundred percent failure

2339
02:23:16.319 --> 02:23:20.040
rate over enough time. I mean, granted everything dies eventually, but like

2340
02:23:20.079 --> 02:23:24.120
those things were accelerated. You know. Ultimate Kicks came out originally as vole

2341
02:23:24.200 --> 02:23:26.840
Feed huh, which maybe it could
have shown up there as vol Feed before

2342
02:23:26.840 --> 02:23:30.319
it, but it was eventually released
as Ultimate Kicks in the US. I

2343
02:23:30.360 --> 02:23:33.479
like that, You're not abandoning the
search. That's all I got. I

2344
02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:35.920
think I bought a red ring,
tried to fix it. Well, I

2345
02:23:35.920 --> 02:23:39.079
get super cheap, you know,
it's like fifty bucks or something, probably

2346
02:23:39.159 --> 02:23:41.319
less than that. Yeah, and
then it's worked kind of yeh. Tried

2347
02:23:41.399 --> 02:23:43.479
that as well. It worked for
like a week or two. But I

2348
02:23:43.639 --> 02:23:46.239
feel like I remember hearing stories of
like people putting theirs in the oven for

2349
02:23:46.280 --> 02:23:50.040
a minute, just weird, Like
I've heard that is like the number of

2350
02:23:50.079 --> 02:23:54.040
like apocryphal stories about how to fix
a red ring, three sixty was amazing.

2351
02:23:54.760 --> 02:23:58.799
The heat, Yeah, the towel
one was done on the stuff.

2352
02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:01.319
Yeah that was. There was some
ridiculous shit going on with that. But

2353
02:24:01.399 --> 02:24:05.840
yeah, no, I bought one
shortly, a brand new one shortly afterwards.

2354
02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:09.159
Uh. I forgot what model it
was. Uh, but yeah,

2355
02:24:09.239 --> 02:24:13.879
that's still running strong, and I've
got an Elite as well, still still

2356
02:24:13.920 --> 02:24:16.559
running. The original Elite, the
black one. Wow, Okay, I

2357
02:24:16.559 --> 02:24:20.040
guess that was the first one that
had like some degree of redesign internal.

2358
02:24:20.600 --> 02:24:22.600
To try to get better about that, I want to say that there was

2359
02:24:22.680 --> 02:24:26.440
one before the black version. Okay, what I mean there was like a

2360
02:24:26.559 --> 02:24:31.040
Jasper revision. I forget what that
was Jasper. I think if I remember,

2361
02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:33.879
the first revision was the same board
and they were just like putting an

2362
02:24:33.879 --> 02:24:37.559
extra layer of epoxy around the ship
to trying to keep it from popping off.

2363
02:24:37.600 --> 02:24:39.159
I remember, yeah, like reading
about that online. I forgot the

2364
02:24:39.239 --> 02:24:41.239
name of the board, but you
could like, you know, scope out

2365
02:24:41.319 --> 02:24:46.239
what what modeled you? Right,
you were gonna gets getting Jaspers. God,

2366
02:24:46.319 --> 02:24:50.719
yeah, I been. I remember
the fucking terrifying uncertainty of those days,

2367
02:24:50.879 --> 02:24:52.120
like trying to make sure you got
to go. So the first Elite

2368
02:24:52.159 --> 02:24:54.399
was just black, and it came
with a bigger hard drive, right,

2369
02:24:54.440 --> 02:24:58.239
but it wasn't redesign. Yeah.
The first redesign was the one the Hdmi

2370
02:24:58.440 --> 02:25:01.559
am I run? No, no, no no, the original Elite had

2371
02:25:01.639 --> 02:25:05.360
HT the first yeah, okay,
yep, the one, the one that

2372
02:25:05.399 --> 02:25:09.239
was it was black, but the
same design, the same dest I bought

2373
02:25:09.280 --> 02:25:11.760
that I bought a lot. I
had my launched three pre launched three sixty

2374
02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:15.760
technically I think it was one of
the ones that Microsoft sent, uh.

2375
02:25:15.799 --> 02:25:22.079
And then the one I bought went
to fucking check out game yep. Uh.

2376
02:25:22.159 --> 02:25:26.879
And then yeah, I bought an
Elite when they came out, just

2377
02:25:26.920 --> 02:25:33.159
for the Hdmi and the bigger hard
drive. Yeah. And then the the

2378
02:25:33.360 --> 02:25:35.879
redesigned it was the S is that
is that what they called the Xbox three

2379
02:25:35.959 --> 02:25:41.280
sixty. And then the most recent
redesign is the E E that Jeff I

2380
02:25:41.319 --> 02:25:45.360
bought an E when they came out. That it's kind of redesigned to look

2381
02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:50.120
a little bit like the one.
Interesting. Yeah, I've I've still got

2382
02:25:50.159 --> 02:25:52.600
that s the launch s from whenever? Was that two thousand and nine?

2383
02:25:52.719 --> 02:25:56.559
I think that's the one I used
mostly Did you get the seat filler s

2384
02:25:56.040 --> 02:26:00.239
yes, Yeah, that's the one
I had. Yeah, two of my

2385
02:26:00.319 --> 02:26:03.239
three sixties problems. Yes, I
went through. I had three an original

2386
02:26:03.399 --> 02:26:07.239
Yeah, I had three original Model
three sixties red ring on me. But

2387
02:26:07.280 --> 02:26:09.000
we we were, you know,
like you said, we were in the

2388
02:26:09.000 --> 02:26:11.319
position where Microsoft would replace those.
Yeah, they had a hot line,

2389
02:26:11.440 --> 02:26:16.280
yes, because the last thing they
wanted was anyone complaining any they wanted.

2390
02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:20.879
They did not want press complaining loudly
about broken three sixties, So they would

2391
02:26:20.879 --> 02:26:22.079
be like, oh, hey,
if you want any problems, just emails

2392
02:26:22.079 --> 02:26:26.920
here and what's say, Well,
you go around the standard repair procedures.

2393
02:26:26.000 --> 02:26:28.600
I never I never had to engage
with that because we just had a supply

2394
02:26:28.680 --> 02:26:31.520
of extras in the office from that. Yeah, we ended up with well,

2395
02:26:31.520 --> 02:26:35.360
they ended up sending quite a few
over over the years. Yeah,

2396
02:26:35.680 --> 02:26:39.239
just for coverage purposes. So it
wasn't really a problem. But I ended

2397
02:26:39.319 --> 02:26:43.280
up running one through the standard because
I remember like thinking that was pretty fucked

2398
02:26:43.360 --> 02:26:48.000
up that they just had this like
fast pass line press. I ended up

2399
02:26:48.000 --> 02:26:52.079
sending one through regularly and it was
a fine process, actually was. Yeah.

2400
02:26:52.079 --> 02:26:56.159
I never I never saw a lot
of I've seen like countless accounts on

2401
02:26:56.239 --> 02:26:58.600
forums and stuff with people getting those
things swapped out. I only had the

2402
02:26:58.639 --> 02:27:01.639
one yeah, I don't seem like
it was relatively so I'm sorry I had

2403
02:27:01.680 --> 02:27:05.200
too. I had another one go
bad in my fucking worst achievement days.

2404
02:27:07.159 --> 02:27:16.840
I had one go out on me
while I was playing fucking It's a Shitty

2405
02:27:16.920 --> 02:27:20.520
Bear game. It was a movie
opens open Season. Yeah. I got

2406
02:27:20.520 --> 02:27:24.840
a copy of Open Season from fucking
game Fly and wanted to get all the

2407
02:27:24.879 --> 02:27:28.120
achievements. And it was a super
hot day, like a hundred degrees outside,

2408
02:27:28.479 --> 02:27:31.200
and I was hot and the Xbox
was hot, and eventually the Xbox

2409
02:27:31.239 --> 02:27:35.079
just said fuck it gave up the
ghost. Yeah, And I took that

2410
02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:37.399
as a sign that was that was
a real moment for me of like,

2411
02:27:37.440 --> 02:27:39.319
I don't think I'm gonna play any
more games like this. This is not

2412
02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:43.760
a bad use, a good use
of anyone's time. Yeah. Yeah,

2413
02:27:43.799 --> 02:27:46.120
so I had those two go bad. I've plenty of people that have had

2414
02:27:46.159 --> 02:27:50.200
more than a handful. Yeah,
that was the thing. Like even as

2415
02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:52.239
people were saying like, yeah,
the process to get a new one is

2416
02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:54.280
pretty painless, Like you would see
these outlier stories on forms and stuff of

2417
02:27:54.319 --> 02:27:58.479
people who were on there like their
twelfth Xbox or something. Right, Yeah,

2418
02:27:58.600 --> 02:28:03.520
I've seen several grave yess here,
Giot has got an incredible graveyard of

2419
02:28:03.719 --> 02:28:07.760
original model three sixties. There must
be like fifteen or twenty of them stacked

2420
02:28:07.840 --> 02:28:11.440
up. We've got our two red
ring debugs. Yes, yes, we

2421
02:28:11.479 --> 02:28:16.319
have old debugs that don't work anymore, which is a real shame. But

2422
02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:18.079
what are you gonna do? I
leave him in that box? I don't

2423
02:28:18.079 --> 02:28:22.719
know. Yeah, anybody buys us
anymore, do they? Yeah, well,

2424
02:28:22.760 --> 02:28:26.920
we couldn't sell our bugs. Oh
shit, you're right, that's probably

2425
02:28:26.959 --> 02:28:31.040
not cool. We had signed paperwork
for those and stuff. I'm sure there's

2426
02:28:31.079 --> 02:28:35.959
someone that still has that paperwork somewhere
at Microsoft maybe whatever. There's no one

2427
02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:39.440
even Yeah, that's never gonna happen. Yeah, Like I said, there's

2428
02:28:39.440 --> 02:28:43.360
any little bit in that game Spot
story from the other day about like Robbie

2429
02:28:43.399 --> 02:28:46.319
Box said all the executives gathered in
his basement when they had to like make

2430
02:28:46.360 --> 02:28:50.600
the call about what to do about
the red ring situation, and and yeah,

2431
02:28:50.680 --> 02:28:54.520
like once they said we gotta do
this, we gotta actually do this,

2432
02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:56.120
Like they had to take it before
the board of Microsoft, you know,

2433
02:28:56.319 --> 02:28:58.799
right, because this was like a
billion dollars loss that they were rejecting.

2434
02:29:00.920 --> 02:29:05.440
Sounded like pretty pretty dark days.
Uh, it's whatever else you want

2435
02:29:05.440 --> 02:29:09.639
to say about those new consoles.
They worked pretty well. That eject bug

2436
02:29:09.680 --> 02:29:11.799
on that PS four, Yeah that
sucks. Yes, you're right, I'm

2437
02:29:11.840 --> 02:29:15.520
not the only one that has that. But that's a pretty widespread problem.

2438
02:29:15.520 --> 02:29:20.319
But I mean, like relative to
like widespread, like fucking almost guaranteed failure

2439
02:29:20.399 --> 02:29:24.639
of the console. Most things work
better than that. Yeah. Yeah,

2440
02:29:24.719 --> 02:29:28.159
yeah, like you know, every
mass produced piece of consumer electronic is gonna

2441
02:29:28.159 --> 02:29:31.639
have some problems here and there.
Yeah, I think I've had the two

2442
02:29:31.719 --> 02:29:35.399
PS three damn. Yeah. Really, I ended up buying a second PS

2443
02:29:35.440 --> 02:29:37.959
three because my launch you and it
was so loud. I couldn't deal with

2444
02:29:37.959 --> 02:29:41.639
it anymore. Like I just said, fuck this thing. And yeah,

2445
02:29:41.719 --> 02:29:45.280
I never had a PS three go
bad. Really, it still works,

2446
02:29:45.319 --> 02:29:48.239
but it was like a fucking jet
engine, like it was a sixty gig.

2447
02:29:48.520 --> 02:29:50.159
It wasn't from launch side down.
Yeah, obviously, no, you

2448
02:29:50.200 --> 02:29:52.600
couldn't because it was round on the
top of wab No. No, no,

2449
02:29:52.639 --> 02:29:56.719
I'm sorry. You turn it on
upside down from a vertical Oh oh

2450
02:29:56.799 --> 02:30:00.479
yeah, that was that was supposed
to like make the fans crazy, to

2451
02:30:00.479 --> 02:30:03.079
blow the dust out or whatever it
was. But It's just I tried that.

2452
02:30:03.440 --> 02:30:05.159
Yeah, I definitely tried that.
It was just it was a lost

2453
02:30:05.200 --> 02:30:13.120
cause. All right, how about
another email? Brendan writes in with an

2454
02:30:13.120 --> 02:30:16.920
email and says, my question is
simple. Of the mini iconic announcers and

2455
02:30:18.040 --> 02:30:20.159
video games, which would you have
shout cast your life events? Oh?

2456
02:30:20.200 --> 02:30:24.399
My god? Personally, I'd want
the Unreal Tournament announcer, as I find

2457
02:30:24.440 --> 02:30:28.799
the idea of hearing first blood during
your morning bowel movement rather humorous. You

2458
02:30:28.840 --> 02:30:33.440
want to see a doctor from the
Street Fighter Alpha two announcer probably everything in

2459
02:30:33.479 --> 02:30:35.159
my life? Alpha two? Yeah, go for broke, Yeah like that

2460
02:30:35.200 --> 02:30:39.399
guy. Enough of three? No? Wait are they not? Are they

2461
02:30:39.440 --> 02:30:43.239
not the same? Shit? No, I don't remember now? Oh god,

2462
02:30:43.639 --> 02:30:46.959
do I mean the Alpha three?
I think I think you mean the

2463
02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:50.399
Alpha three? Okay, all right, I'll accept that. Yeah, I'd

2464
02:30:50.399 --> 02:30:54.360
have to go with Mortal Kombat too
announcer, the best announcer in anything that

2465
02:30:54.399 --> 02:30:58.399
ever got announced in video game ever. And Tim kits Row, the nbajam

2466
02:30:58.520 --> 02:31:00.920
is that his name? No,
No, the Mortal Combat two guy,

2467
02:31:00.920 --> 02:31:01.799
I was saying, I would go, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

2468
02:31:01.959 --> 02:31:07.280
Okay. With NBA Jamin, Yeah, so he's he's on fire.

2469
02:31:07.840 --> 02:31:11.559
Sure kind of guy. Okay,
I like the Halo guy. Yeah,

2470
02:31:11.639 --> 02:31:13.680
it's not a bad one. Yeah, they're all iconic, Like he said,

2471
02:31:13.840 --> 02:31:18.360
kill him a jaro. Yeah right, cheaking out the garbage man.

2472
02:31:18.600 --> 02:31:20.840
Okay, so it sounds like you
played a lot of Hell Go into the

2473
02:31:20.879 --> 02:31:26.360
bathroom. Yeah, exactly, whooping. Yeah, I wonder how old that

2474
02:31:26.360 --> 02:31:30.680
guy is. He's a radio guy, is he? No? No,

2475
02:31:30.719 --> 02:31:35.000
that master Chief is radio guy?
Is he? Are you serious? He's

2476
02:31:35.040 --> 02:31:39.120
like no shit? Yeah. I
always wondered why you never heard that voice

2477
02:31:39.120 --> 02:31:41.319
in any other game like that I
know of. I mean, I don't

2478
02:31:41.319 --> 02:31:45.639
know if they've just got him on
contract where he can't yeh Steve Downs is

2479
02:31:45.680 --> 02:31:48.680
that his name. I always just
assumed like, oh, maybe Microsoft like

2480
02:31:48.879 --> 02:31:52.479
has him locked up, like contractually
he can't go act another stuff or something.

2481
02:31:52.559 --> 02:31:56.280
But like that doesn't seem like something
they could get away with. So

2482
02:31:56.360 --> 02:32:00.920
he just moonlights his master Chief and
then goes back to the radio. Uh.

2483
02:32:01.120 --> 02:32:01.920
I don't know, hard to say, huh, Yeah, yeah he

2484
02:32:03.280 --> 02:32:07.520
was. He was mourning doing mornings
in Chicago on ninety seven one w DRV

2485
02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:15.479
The Drive. But that's I don't
know that he's necessarily on I know he's

2486
02:32:15.559 --> 02:32:18.280
he is. He is retired from
radio as of this year. Wow.

2487
02:32:18.760 --> 02:32:22.959
Okay, yeah, that Halo money. Well, hopefully he'll be around to

2488
02:32:22.959 --> 02:32:28.280
do Halo for the foreseeable future.
Which game is it where the guy says

2489
02:32:28.319 --> 02:32:31.760
this battle it's about to explode?
This battle is But that's that's Alpha three,

2490
02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:37.239
face it straight triumph for dot That's
that's Alpha three. Yeah. I

2491
02:32:37.280 --> 02:32:41.040
remember being so blown away by Alpha
and the fact that they said things other

2492
02:32:41.120 --> 02:32:45.319
than just like round one fight.
Yeah, like the fact that they put

2493
02:32:45.399 --> 02:32:48.280
little flavor text in there. I
was like, man, that's crazy.

2494
02:32:48.680 --> 02:32:58.159
These games are totally absurd. Uh. And the multiplayer announcer is and Halo

2495
02:32:58.239 --> 02:33:03.959
it is Jeff's nights are according to
this what's his day job? Mm hmmm,

2496
02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:16.360
I don't know. Halo. Let's
uh keep googling here live We're going.

2497
02:33:16.440 --> 02:33:20.440
How about the EA sports guy narrating
my life? Did he ever say

2498
02:33:20.479 --> 02:33:26.479
anything besides a recurring role as Art
Zimmerman on The Fugitive and he has been

2499
02:33:26.520 --> 02:33:31.559
on episodes of Law and Order.
Oh wow, I know, weird,

2500
02:33:31.680 --> 02:33:37.120
right, He auditioned for the role
of Master Chief according to this Halo wiki.

2501
02:33:37.440 --> 02:33:41.000
It's like, you're not quite right. For the part, but we

2502
02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:43.000
sort of like you, so don't
you try saying slayer and see how it

2503
02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:48.000
sounds. Yeah. Tim from Dubai
wrote in a little tip based on our

2504
02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:52.239
Fallout chat last week. We didn't
talk about Fallout today it's going on.

2505
02:33:52.920 --> 02:33:56.239
Yeah, I've I have not had
time to get back to fall Out yet.

2506
02:33:56.399 --> 02:34:01.760
I need to do that, all
right, Tim says, I felt

2507
02:34:01.799 --> 02:34:05.239
your pain when you mentioned about organizing
settlers in Sanctuary. This is when we

2508
02:34:05.239 --> 02:34:07.719
were talking about how it's basically impossible
to tell like who's assigned to what task

2509
02:34:09.120 --> 02:34:13.200
in that game. Easy fix,
just equip different hats to people who are

2510
02:34:13.200 --> 02:34:16.639
assigned to different jobs. My store
guys, yeah, totally. My store

2511
02:34:16.639 --> 02:34:20.159
guys are now all in faded suits
and trilbies, guards and army helmets,

2512
02:34:20.600 --> 02:34:24.559
and the farmers are in long John's
with fur hats and shotguns. Whenever I

2513
02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:28.680
go back, I just ring the
bell and can see who's new or unassigned

2514
02:34:28.680 --> 02:34:33.319
by who's not wearing a hat.
That's a great tip. That is an

2515
02:34:33.319 --> 02:34:37.239
incredible use of game mechanics to get
around their own lack of foresight. Can

2516
02:34:37.280 --> 02:34:39.680
you give someone a hat that is
a train? Oh? I don't know.

2517
02:34:41.079 --> 02:34:43.600
That would be good. They should
make a small hat that's just a

2518
02:34:43.760 --> 02:34:46.799
railway car in that game. There's
well, no, never mind, yeah

2519
02:34:48.000 --> 02:34:50.959
no, I'm not gonna all right, kind of spoilery stuff, okay,

2520
02:34:52.200 --> 02:34:58.159
fair enough. Emails, emails,
emails, there's a bunch of them trying

2521
02:34:58.159 --> 02:35:01.520
to decide when I want to get
to the spice part. Spice must flow.

2522
02:35:01.559 --> 02:35:05.520
I guess you're right, maybe we
should just go all right, yeah,

2523
02:35:05.639 --> 02:35:11.239
fine whatever. After her talk about
synthetic weed last week, holy shit,

2524
02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:15.040
we got some emails, man,
A lot of them came in,

2525
02:35:15.120 --> 02:35:16.319
and a lot of them from like
people in interesting lines of work. So

2526
02:35:16.360 --> 02:35:22.559
I'm gonna read talk about here man, drugs mostly yeah, pretty much drugs

2527
02:35:22.559 --> 02:35:26.440
and AK forty sevens. Yeah.
Uh. This email is signed clean Dan.

2528
02:35:26.639 --> 02:35:31.399
It's been a lot of crime talking. Yeah, excuse me man,

2529
02:35:31.959 --> 02:35:37.559
all right, clean Dan says in
my roughly two years is it? Excuse

2530
02:35:37.600 --> 02:35:41.360
me? Goodness, I can scratch
you here and my roughly two years is

2531
02:35:41.399 --> 02:35:46.840
a criminal defense attorney, Okay.
I have represented clients who were allegedly involved

2532
02:35:46.879 --> 02:35:52.559
with spice or synthetic marijuana to varying
degrees. The crimes ranged from simple possession

2533
02:35:52.639 --> 02:35:56.319
to conspiracy, production and distribution.
If there's anything fun about being a lawyer,

2534
02:35:56.360 --> 02:36:01.520
it's that different cases require you to
become reasonably knowledgeable about weird topics,

2535
02:36:01.879 --> 02:36:05.239
and you learn some crazy shit along
the way. Number one Spice is a

2536
02:36:05.239 --> 02:36:09.799
blanket term that typically refers to dried
leafy matter, usually inert on its own,

2537
02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:13.840
sprayed with chemicals that are supposed to
target the same brain receptors as THHC.

2538
02:36:15.639 --> 02:36:20.399
The chemicals have exciting names like JWH
zero one, eight AM twenty two

2539
02:36:20.399 --> 02:36:26.040
O one, and alpha PvP.
These chemicals have been scheduled alpha PvP sun

2540
02:36:26.239 --> 02:36:31.079
yeah. These chemicals have been scheduled
or provisionally scheduled as controlled substances, and

2541
02:36:31.159 --> 02:36:37.000
as such are obviously less attractive two
producers. To avoid criminal charges, people

2542
02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:41.399
employ quote underground chemists, though this
usually means a lab in India or China

2543
02:36:41.879 --> 02:36:46.479
to alter the chemicals by a few
molecules. This generates a new, untested

2544
02:36:46.520 --> 02:36:52.040
substance which gets around the DA for
a few months. When the DA inevitably

2545
02:36:52.079 --> 02:36:54.680
catches on, it schedules the substance, and the cycle starts again. This

2546
02:36:54.760 --> 02:37:00.159
means that spice could contain one of
many different substances, most of which are

2547
02:37:00.200 --> 02:37:05.079
poorly tested. Some versions are extremely
potent at low doses, so any uncertainty

2548
02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:07.799
with respect to which kind of spice
you're using could be dangerous, if not

2549
02:37:07.879 --> 02:37:13.360
fatal. Drunk Dan was smart to
toss it out too. The legal consequences

2550
02:37:13.360 --> 02:37:18.559
of being caught with spice chemicals are
severe. Relatively small amounts can get you

2551
02:37:18.600 --> 02:37:22.799
ten years or more from the Feds. What's worse is that the government can

2552
02:37:22.920 --> 02:37:24.799
charge you even if the chemical you
have isn't a schedule substance. If it's

2553
02:37:24.840 --> 02:37:30.079
similar enough in structure and effect to
a substance that is scheduled, they consider

2554
02:37:30.120 --> 02:37:33.840
it a controlled substance analog and will
charge you. Yeah, they change the

2555
02:37:33.920 --> 02:37:35.680
laws to cover analogs. While back, because there were so many people I

2556
02:37:35.719 --> 02:37:39.680
think, I want to say,
it was like it was other synthetics.

2557
02:37:39.719 --> 02:37:41.879
It was just like whether it was
like people just doing like MDMA derivatives or

2558
02:37:41.920 --> 02:37:45.559
whatever. It was right, there's
like a lot of people getting into that

2559
02:37:45.559 --> 02:37:48.079
stuff. Yeah, yeah, I
had no idea about that at all.

2560
02:37:48.120 --> 02:37:50.120
But yeah, it's just like some
of the research chemicals when we're talking about

2561
02:37:50.159 --> 02:37:52.639
last week, it was some of
that similar stuke. It's like here's this

2562
02:37:52.719 --> 02:37:56.479
kind of pilsty derivative that they haven't
thought to schedule yet, but they can

2563
02:37:56.600 --> 02:38:01.000
through that law kind of cover in
the periphery. Yeah, he straight up

2564
02:38:01.000 --> 02:38:03.239
says. He says, what is
similar enough? You may wonder the law

2565
02:38:03.280 --> 02:38:07.399
says substantially similar in quotes. What
does a subjective term like substantially similar mean

2566
02:38:07.479 --> 02:38:11.000
in the context of an empirical science
like chemistry. It means you better have

2567
02:38:11.079 --> 02:38:15.360
saved some of that spice money for
a good lawyer because your ass is getting

2568
02:38:15.440 --> 02:38:20.000
charged. Stay away from it.
That stuff sounds terrifying. Yeah, and

2569
02:38:20.399 --> 02:38:26.000
just buy real weed because that's against
the law. Okay, I don't know,

2570
02:38:26.319 --> 02:38:30.840
because because apparently like spice also like
hits you in a totally different way.

2571
02:38:31.239 --> 02:38:35.120
The effects are completely like separate,
completely difficle are having addiction problems with

2572
02:38:35.159 --> 02:38:39.559
it and stuff you know that wouldn't
normally come from the real thing. Yeah,

2573
02:38:39.639 --> 02:38:41.879
I'm so old. I've been out
of the drug game for a long

2574
02:38:41.920 --> 02:38:46.520
time. Well, I've got sporting
emails for you. Then here's one from

2575
02:38:46.520 --> 02:38:50.079
a paramedic named Josh Hey fellaw his
listeners since the beginning first time writing.

2576
02:38:50.079 --> 02:38:54.879
In listening to this week's emails,
I heard the discussion about synthetic weed or

2577
02:38:54.920 --> 02:39:00.000
flacca as Jeff called it. Working
as a paramedic for six and a half

2578
02:39:00.040 --> 02:39:03.399
years in Louis Louisiana. Excuse me. I have had my fair share of

2579
02:39:03.440 --> 02:39:05.959
these calls, and I assure you
the media is not hyping up the effects.

2580
02:39:07.760 --> 02:39:09.920
The stuff is legitimately scary. There
is no tolerance to it, and

2581
02:39:11.000 --> 02:39:13.760
all it takes is one time taking
it to kill. I've had people who

2582
02:39:13.760 --> 02:39:18.719
didn't know that. I've had people
who didn't know who they were try to

2583
02:39:18.760 --> 02:39:22.200
bite me, and some that had
seizures that couldn't be stopped. Well,

2584
02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:24.319
we've all been there. Yeah,
yeah, almost all had to be sedated

2585
02:39:24.440 --> 02:39:28.600
and intubated because they stopped breathing at
the er. Some people call it legal

2586
02:39:28.639 --> 02:39:31.479
weed, but I assure you nothing
about it is legal. Stay away from

2587
02:39:31.479 --> 02:39:35.600
this stuff and nothing nothing about it
sounds like weed either, yeah, total

2588
02:39:35.719 --> 02:39:39.040
anything. This just starts to sound
more and more like angel dust, yes,

2589
02:39:39.440 --> 02:39:46.239
or bath salts. I guess here
is uh an email from an NYPD

2590
02:39:46.360 --> 02:39:50.399
officer. I guess, I don't. I don't. I never knew if

2591
02:39:50.399 --> 02:39:52.159
bath salts were real or not.
Yeah, that was something that was kind

2592
02:39:52.200 --> 02:39:56.440
of still not at all. It
seemed like that was a similar thing.

2593
02:39:56.520 --> 02:39:58.360
It was like they were selling it
in head shops and it was the same

2594
02:39:58.399 --> 02:40:01.760
type deal of like the packages say
like, hey, don't consume this,

2595
02:40:01.840 --> 02:40:05.440
but people are like, I'm gonna
get this. We consume it. But

2596
02:40:05.559 --> 02:40:07.840
that's that's one of the things they
you know, to try to get away.

2597
02:40:09.159 --> 02:40:11.959
Yeah, here, we want to
sell you this, but the usually

2598
02:40:11.120 --> 02:40:15.719
is fucking spice packages and all that
stuff. Say they also don't for human

2599
02:40:15.719 --> 02:40:18.559
consumptions, like is there any pretense
at all under which they're selling it?

2600
02:40:18.680 --> 02:40:22.040
So it's even even was it like
the you see magazines years ago, don't

2601
02:40:22.040 --> 02:40:24.719
even if they still sell it.
But it was like a synthetic. It

2602
02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:28.399
was called like it was a catman
do temple gift too, and they were

2603
02:40:28.399 --> 02:40:31.319
selling it like half the time.
It was like it's an incense, you

2604
02:40:31.360 --> 02:40:33.760
know, putting your room and just
burn it and you know just about that

2605
02:40:33.799 --> 02:40:37.399
way, it's like an incense thing. Hey, these are bath salts way

2606
02:40:37.520 --> 02:40:39.239
quake, you know, Like that
was the whole always the whole thing.

2607
02:40:39.280 --> 02:40:43.159
It was like they were selling it
for one labeled purpose. But people were

2608
02:40:43.159 --> 02:40:48.559
like, hey, if you put
this in your body fun times you ever

2609
02:40:48.600 --> 02:40:50.639
play mark, Oh my god,
you could become mister dumpster. Man,

2610
02:40:52.799 --> 02:40:56.680
you know, there's where is Bucky
and what has he had? There's there's

2611
02:40:56.719 --> 02:40:58.959
definitely room for there's kind of a
sliding scale on like opinions on different control

2612
02:41:00.040 --> 02:41:03.200
substances, but this one seems like
one to just stay the fuck away from.

2613
02:41:03.639 --> 02:41:07.600
Yeah, based on some of this
stuff. This, uh, like

2614
02:41:07.639 --> 02:41:11.200
I said, this is from a
New York cop. I just want to

2615
02:41:11.239 --> 02:41:13.319
say thanks for putting out the word
about synthetic weed. Over here in NYC.

2616
02:41:13.520 --> 02:41:18.680
We call it K two and it
is no joke. Jeff described it

2617
02:41:18.680 --> 02:41:22.520
to a t when he said,
PCP nightmare. It makes people go batshit

2618
02:41:22.639 --> 02:41:26.719
and do really horrible stuff to themselves
and others. Out of all the things

2619
02:41:26.719 --> 02:41:28.840
I've seen people put in their bodies, K two is by far the worst

2620
02:41:28.879 --> 02:41:33.079
to deal with on a person to
person level because of the complete disregard for

2621
02:41:33.120 --> 02:41:37.360
safety it seems to bring out in
people. Goddamn, it's like the happening

2622
02:41:37.040 --> 02:41:41.239
totally. It's like it just seems
like people are just getting that illy rage

2623
02:41:41.239 --> 02:41:46.319
and fuck man, oh my god, it's really Yeah. I also it's

2624
02:41:46.319 --> 02:41:50.440
time for a remake of Disco Godfather. We've got to attack the web,

2625
02:41:50.079 --> 02:41:56.479
guess. So I've got one other
email here from a paramedic, which straight

2626
02:41:56.559 --> 02:41:58.120
up says in the subject line might
be a bit much, and it's about

2627
02:41:58.120 --> 02:42:01.159
a guy dying. And I don't
actually know if I want to read it

2628
02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:07.719
or not. Maybe I shouldn't.
Is can you sum it up? Is

2629
02:42:07.719 --> 02:42:13.159
it gruesome? Not super gruesome,
but it's it's really shitty. It's a

2630
02:42:13.200 --> 02:42:16.079
bad way to go. I'm hey, this stuff sounds really shitty. Yeah,

2631
02:42:16.200 --> 02:42:18.159
you sound like you want to hear
it. I kind of want to

2632
02:42:18.200 --> 02:42:22.840
hear it. Hi bomb cast,
I'm a paramedic in Melbourne, Australia.

2633
02:42:22.040 --> 02:42:28.959
Well, I mean there you go. Ye drop bears smoking synthetic weed.

2634
02:42:28.000 --> 02:42:33.840
You never know what they're gonna do. Yeah. Uh. I'll start by

2635
02:42:33.879 --> 02:42:37.120
saying I have trouble judging these days
if my stories are too much or not.

2636
02:42:37.239 --> 02:42:39.600
But having run into lots of patients
and dire trouble after smoking this stuff,

2637
02:42:39.840 --> 02:42:45.079
I thought a quick cautionary tale might
be good. I hope that we're

2638
02:42:45.159 --> 02:42:48.200
like preaching with the choir hero.
We're not actually having to instruct people not

2639
02:42:48.239 --> 02:42:50.399
to use this stuff. There's someone
rolling one up right now, going huh

2640
02:42:50.440 --> 02:43:00.600
wait what bomb casting k two time
man every every Tuesday once stop shop for

2641
02:43:00.639 --> 02:43:05.520
cautionary tales. A workmate from my
station recently went to a guy that,

2642
02:43:05.600 --> 02:43:09.559
after smoking synthetic, had gotten let's
say, a little crazy, ranting at

2643
02:43:09.559 --> 02:43:11.799
his friends, and then vomiting all
over the place. He was popped into

2644
02:43:11.799 --> 02:43:15.479
the bathroom where he couldn't make too
much mess, and left to sleep it

2645
02:43:15.520 --> 02:43:20.280
off. Unfortunately, he must have
woken shortly after desperate. Sorry, Unfortunately,

2646
02:43:20.319 --> 02:43:24.639
he must have woken shortly after and
been desperately thirsty. When he was

2647
02:43:24.719 --> 02:43:28.239
later checked on, it became obvious
that he had started drinking from the handbasin

2648
02:43:28.319 --> 02:43:31.120
tap in his greatly altered state.
It seems he wasn't satisfied with the volume

2649
02:43:31.159 --> 02:43:35.200
of water he was getting, and
he apparently worked his way up the spouts

2650
02:43:35.239 --> 02:43:37.399
so far into his mouth that it
became caught in his throat with the tap

2651
02:43:37.440 --> 02:43:43.559
still on at full flow. Needless
to say, he quickly drowned, stuck

2652
02:43:43.559 --> 02:43:46.040
to the tap filling him with water, unable or unwilling to free himself.

2653
02:43:48.120 --> 02:43:50.719
He goes into some other huh,
grizzly details that is not how I thought

2654
02:43:50.760 --> 02:43:54.120
that story was going to go.
Yeah, yeah, And he goes into

2655
02:43:54.159 --> 02:43:56.319
some details about trying to remove the
guy. Yeah, maybe not maybe the

2656
02:43:56.360 --> 02:44:03.120
way, maybe we don't need those
parts I can I'll stop the uh anyway

2657
02:44:03.120 --> 02:44:05.760
in summaries, stay the funk away
from that ship. Normal weed got it

2658
02:44:05.760 --> 02:44:09.799
will struggle to do you any harm
in the short term. But that synthetic

2659
02:44:09.840 --> 02:44:11.399
shit is mad. That's the crazy. I mean, like, well whatever,

2660
02:44:11.600 --> 02:44:15.319
what I feel like one of the
craziest parts about this stuff is that

2661
02:44:15.360 --> 02:44:18.040
it is like is that people are
referring to it as like synthetic airwana,

2662
02:44:18.159 --> 02:44:24.520
which may be technically true from like
a chemical perspective or something like so fucking

2663
02:44:24.559 --> 02:44:28.200
different. Yeah, like that's the
scariest part because it's like, you know,

2664
02:44:28.200 --> 02:44:31.079
it's like, say what you will
about weed, Yeah it is.

2665
02:44:31.120 --> 02:44:35.600
It is like unequivocally the most benign
soft drugs. Yes, it is the

2666
02:44:35.600 --> 02:44:39.680
most benign controlled substance you can possibly
imagine. Like, yeah, it's not

2667
02:44:39.680 --> 02:44:41.799
going to do that to you.
It's probably not going to do that to

2668
02:44:41.879 --> 02:44:46.000
you. Yeah, you might eat
too much pizza or sometime, you know,

2669
02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:48.920
or yeah, he might get in
a car and fucking crash it.

2670
02:44:48.920 --> 02:44:50.959
I mean, you know, like
there are dangers there. It's not a

2671
02:44:50.120 --> 02:44:54.360
zero danger. Well, yeah,
you're still intoxicated, but it's dude,

2672
02:44:54.399 --> 02:44:56.840
this stuff sounds just like a fucking
just doesn't. You know, Like the

2673
02:44:58.319 --> 02:45:01.920
labeling on the calling it synthetic weed
is like maybe even the scariest part,

2674
02:45:01.959 --> 02:45:05.719
because you get people that like,
go, oh well, weed's cool.

2675
02:45:05.879 --> 02:45:07.360
Well that sounds like exactly, we
don't have any of that, so we

2676
02:45:07.440 --> 02:45:09.719
got some of this, let's get
into this. It sounds like exactly what

2677
02:45:09.760 --> 02:45:13.559
happened to Dan or that was his
exact train of thought, right, yeah,

2678
02:45:13.639 --> 02:45:15.799
yeah, oh I heard this might
help me. Maybe I'll try this

2679
02:45:15.840 --> 02:45:18.319
stuff. But no, that's not
that was so many years ago that I

2680
02:45:18.319 --> 02:45:22.079
bet whatever he was buying was not
this. Okay, you're probably right because

2681
02:45:22.120 --> 02:45:28.319
the I feel like this level of
stuff is maybe a little more recent in

2682
02:45:28.399 --> 02:45:31.120
the grand scheme of thinks people.
And you know, there's been synthetic you

2683
02:45:31.159 --> 02:45:33.159
know, league cheap legal highs for
years and years and years, and like

2684
02:45:33.200 --> 02:45:37.040
I said, when we went to
that up and smoke toury, and you

2685
02:45:37.079 --> 02:45:41.159
know, there are people trying to
sell stuff like that there. But I

2686
02:45:41.159 --> 02:45:45.440
imagine that was a very different thing
then. I guess. I don't know,

2687
02:45:45.840 --> 02:45:48.239
it depends on your perspective. I
think like standard marijuana these days is

2688
02:45:48.239 --> 02:45:52.280
a very different thing than what it
was in the seventh totally now that it's

2689
02:45:52.319 --> 02:45:56.360
being fucking crossbred, and and you
know, groaning labs and people all have

2690
02:45:56.399 --> 02:46:00.520
their favorite fucking strains that just sound
like fucking blends of coffee. You're fucking

2691
02:46:00.520 --> 02:46:05.000
micro group beers drum into the white
winter this and you know tried that new

2692
02:46:05.000 --> 02:46:13.079
girl Scout cookies. Yeah X twenty
one whatever, Sure, well, just

2693
02:46:13.159 --> 02:46:20.079
that that first email talking I see
sour dieselus Brosow Mellows diesel. It's like,

2694
02:46:20.239 --> 02:46:24.159
it's the way that that first email
made it sound like like where it

2695
02:46:24.159 --> 02:46:28.399
comes from. It's just a it's
a roll of the chemical dice. Totally

2696
02:46:28.559 --> 02:46:31.639
like it's crazy the chemical dice.
Yeah yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe

2697
02:46:31.639 --> 02:46:35.440
not. What is this? Nobody? This was made in the lab and

2698
02:46:35.479 --> 02:46:39.040
nobody knows what it's gonna do to
you. Maybe a bad idea. All

2699
02:46:39.120 --> 02:46:45.639
right, well, dare roll the
dice, keep to keep kids off.

2700
02:46:45.959 --> 02:46:48.760
Okay, Actually, what you're daring
me to smoke weird fake drugs? Like

2701
02:46:48.760 --> 02:46:52.840
what? No? I thought this
was the whole point of this was no,

2702
02:46:52.840 --> 02:46:56.639
no, all right, Uh,
well, now that that's out of

2703
02:46:56.639 --> 02:47:00.719
the way, let's read one more
email. And I do appreciate the breadth

2704
02:47:00.719 --> 02:47:03.920
of giant bomb listeners. Yeah,
that's half the reason, half the reason

2705
02:47:03.959 --> 02:47:07.360
I've included all those emails. It's
like, dude, it's a defense attorney,

2706
02:47:07.760 --> 02:47:11.959
NYPD cop and paramedic from Australia.
Like, holy shit, let's hear

2707
02:47:13.000 --> 02:47:15.799
from the other side of this next
week. Though. There's gotta be an

2708
02:47:15.840 --> 02:47:20.440
upside to this stuff, right No? Oh boy? All right, well

2709
02:47:20.479 --> 02:47:24.360
no, like we got our we
got that one like pro slightly pro meth

2710
02:47:24.440 --> 02:47:26.639
email that one time, right right, Yes, it was like, oh

2711
02:47:26.680 --> 02:47:35.399
you know what's better counterstrike? Oh
man? All right, last email it

2712
02:47:35.559 --> 02:47:39.600
was only signed a user name Terrace
Cassi. Shit, oh boy, steel

2713
02:47:39.600 --> 02:47:43.120
hand itself. Yeah. I've never
played Animal crossing before, but after watching

2714
02:47:43.120 --> 02:47:48.120
your videos, I've realized that a
dude named Tom Nook pretty much controls everything.

2715
02:47:48.639 --> 02:47:52.000
Is Tom Nooks some kind of gangster? I mean, you know,

2716
02:47:52.440 --> 02:47:58.559
he's not necessarily out there breaking legs
himself. He's got all He's got other

2717
02:47:58.559 --> 02:48:01.959
people to do it for him.
It's Harded and Timmy and Tommy the criminal

2718
02:48:01.040 --> 02:48:05.760
king pin of get out there and
do business. Now, if you if

2719
02:48:05.760 --> 02:48:09.399
you dig deep enough into the Tomnook
story, I think if you get far

2720
02:48:09.479 --> 02:48:11.000
enough in some animal Crossing game.
You can actually kind of hang out with

2721
02:48:11.040 --> 02:48:16.159
Tom Nook in a way that he
kind of says like, Hey, you

2722
02:48:16.159 --> 02:48:18.239
know, I'm just I'm just doing
my thing. I don't know why people,

2723
02:48:18.719 --> 02:48:22.120
huh, I feel like grooming you
to take over the family business.

2724
02:48:22.559 --> 02:48:26.440
I don't know it's making you as
capo. I assume that's real and not

2725
02:48:26.479 --> 02:48:28.120
just photoshop ship. But I think
you get to you get a little bit

2726
02:48:28.159 --> 02:48:33.719
of tomnook backstory, Okay. And
it's just that it's sure there's a wiki.

2727
02:48:33.959 --> 02:48:35.399
I mean it's Nintendo. They're very
earnest about stuff. I guess.

2728
02:48:35.440 --> 02:48:39.159
I'm sure they play that super straight. Yeah, it's like if if if

2729
02:48:39.239 --> 02:48:45.680
they actually played into the common lore
about yeah, he's a motherfucker turned on

2730
02:48:45.719 --> 02:48:50.000
Animal cross My fiance has been playing
Animal Crossing, and so I turned on

2731
02:48:50.040 --> 02:48:52.159
mine to, you know, so
she could get some some different fruit and

2732
02:48:52.680 --> 02:48:56.399
that sort of stuff. So I've
been playing that a little bit of that

2733
02:48:56.520 --> 02:49:01.040
again lately. Three y yeah,
Yeah, and I can owe that motherfucker

2734
02:49:01.079 --> 02:49:05.280
four nine eight thousand bells yea,
and Tom Nook will have his bells.

2735
02:49:05.799 --> 02:49:09.040
And my house is not that much
bigger man, I was have enough room

2736
02:49:09.079 --> 02:49:13.559
for the gyroids. I got,
Tom, I can't go to the island

2737
02:49:13.600 --> 02:49:16.000
and just catch bugs. I mean
I could, but I'm I don't want

2738
02:49:16.040 --> 02:49:20.959
to do that either. Uh does
that do you build up interest over time

2739
02:49:20.959 --> 02:49:22.479
if you let it sit? Okay, absolutely no, that would be great.

2740
02:49:22.600 --> 02:49:26.280
Yeah, that would be uncontrolled Tom. And he fronts you the upgrades.

2741
02:49:26.520 --> 02:49:28.920
Okay, Like keep in mind,
like you know, from the beginning

2742
02:49:28.920 --> 02:49:31.479
of that game, he says,
you can have a house. Now you

2743
02:49:31.520 --> 02:49:35.120
owe me this much money. Fuck
you pay me. Yeah, So then

2744
02:49:35.159 --> 02:49:37.280
you pay him the money and he
goes, okay, great, Now what

2745
02:49:37.360 --> 02:49:39.000
kind of house upgrade do you want? Then you get the house upgrade,

2746
02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:41.680
and then you're in the hole again. Okay, so it's you know,

2747
02:49:43.000 --> 02:49:46.680
he's at least fronting you the upgrade. So I haven't paid him for an

2748
02:49:46.719 --> 02:49:48.280
upgrade. I already have, man, but you can't get I'm assuming you

2749
02:49:48.319 --> 02:49:50.719
can't get an advance on another upgrade
until you pay it off, right,

2750
02:49:50.959 --> 02:49:54.680
Yeah, that's he's the man has
limits. And then you know, you're

2751
02:49:54.680 --> 02:49:56.280
the mayor of this town you're trying
to raise money for like you know,

2752
02:49:56.280 --> 02:49:58.680
I want to build a wishing well. I want to build a fucking coffee

2753
02:49:58.680 --> 02:50:01.840
place. I want to you know, I don't have shit in my town.

2754
02:50:03.120 --> 02:50:07.639
And then all that stuff is like, oh, we're taking up donations

2755
02:50:07.639 --> 02:50:11.920
from all the residents to maybe build
this thing, but I'm the only fucking

2756
02:50:11.920 --> 02:50:15.719
resident, right And I think if
you, like, if you check back

2757
02:50:15.760 --> 02:50:18.280
every day, like it goes down
by like twenty bells, like you know,

2758
02:50:18.319 --> 02:50:20.760
maybe some you know, maybe the
bear that lives in my town is

2759
02:50:20.760 --> 02:50:24.959
walking by and kicking him five bells
or something like that. But that's jack

2760
02:50:24.079 --> 02:50:26.600
shit. I'm paying for all that
stuff. The entirety of your income is

2761
02:50:26.639 --> 02:50:30.799
going into the public works. Yeah, man, that game is like this

2762
02:50:30.879 --> 02:50:35.079
game is a nice, good,
quiet, fun thing and it's a very

2763
02:50:35.120 --> 02:50:39.440
relaxing time. But the minute you
start to like treat it like the treadmill

2764
02:50:39.520 --> 02:50:43.239
that it is actually built as of
like, well I need the money to

2765
02:50:43.239 --> 02:50:46.760
get these upgrades, it becomes the
most soulless fucking thing ever, because it's

2766
02:50:46.799 --> 02:50:50.159
just you going to the island over
and over again, catching the expensive bugs

2767
02:50:50.920 --> 02:50:56.159
and going back and and thanks.
Once you reveal that that is the actual

2768
02:50:56.159 --> 02:50:58.479
way to play that game, or
you know, like get crazy on the

2769
02:50:58.520 --> 02:51:03.159
fucking turn up thing, which is
another good way to earn a ship a

2770
02:51:03.200 --> 02:51:09.200
ton of money. It's like that
game kind of becomes a bummer. Yeah,

2771
02:51:09.719 --> 02:51:13.079
they haven't made a proper animal crossing
for we you have? They just

2772
02:51:13.120 --> 02:51:18.959
the weird offshoots board game bullshit,
And then Happy Home Designer came out on

2773
02:51:18.000 --> 02:51:22.200
three DS. But like, no, actually, okay, bullshit, what

2774
02:51:22.200 --> 02:51:26.120
are you talking about? The game? Amibo Festival thing is the most distressing

2775
02:51:26.280 --> 02:51:30.399
thing. Well, let's not talk
about that. God, let's get out

2776
02:51:30.399 --> 02:51:35.440
of here instead. How is that
legal? That's an analog I could put

2777
02:51:35.479 --> 02:51:39.079
the schedule that. I mean,
really, yeah, Amibo Festival really is

2778
02:51:39.120 --> 02:51:43.040
just a Mario Party with a few
molecules changed exactly. And Mario Party has

2779
02:51:43.079 --> 02:51:46.239
been illegal. They scheduled that years
and it's true. And you know,

2780
02:51:46.280 --> 02:51:50.879
Amibo Festival is just untested as fuck. Yeah, I have no idea that's

2781
02:51:50.879 --> 02:51:54.360
gonna go order research chemicals out of
catalog. They send you a fucking thing

2782
02:51:54.399 --> 02:51:56.280
of white powder, and you're like, I don't even know how much of

2783
02:51:56.319 --> 02:51:58.239
this to take or what to do. I just put the amibos on this,

2784
02:51:58.319 --> 02:52:07.520
and then the the powder disappears.
BombCast a joball dot com. That's

2785
02:52:07.520 --> 02:52:09.920
all I have to say. Okay, we should get out of here.

2786
02:52:09.120 --> 02:52:16.040
All right, let's go with that
short week. Man, We're short week

2787
02:52:16.040 --> 02:52:20.200
in any case, but especially since
the studio is now being turned into pieces

2788
02:52:20.200 --> 02:52:22.440
and boxes. Yeah, good lord, short week, fair amount manual labor.

2789
02:52:22.600 --> 02:52:26.520
Yes, uh. And then I
don't know, we'll figure some stuff

2790
02:52:26.520 --> 02:52:30.159
out. We'll have content go out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, We've

2791
02:52:30.159 --> 02:52:31.559
got some stuff going up throughout the
week. Some of it might be a

2792
02:52:31.600 --> 02:52:35.840
little unconventional. Yeah, that's uh. And some stuff coming out of New

2793
02:52:35.920 --> 02:52:37.760
York. They still they still are
static, that's true. Yeah, they'll

2794
02:52:37.760 --> 02:52:41.959
but they'll be here for they have
an operable studio, but they're coming out

2795
02:52:43.000 --> 02:52:46.200
of here. We're getting ready to
start producing Game of the Year. Yes,

2796
02:52:46.319 --> 02:52:50.120
it'll it'll happen. Just imagine a
big flashing under construction sign on our

2797
02:52:50.159 --> 02:52:54.159
website. We should just put one
on there. Yeah, what do you

2798
02:52:54.200 --> 02:52:56.920
say? No, well, what
some stuff? Can we get one in

2799
02:52:56.920 --> 02:53:00.799
the header? No, just make
it the time loot for the next two

2800
02:53:00.799 --> 02:53:03.879
weeks. Let's make it say giant
bomb beta. Right, if we get

2801
02:53:03.879 --> 02:53:07.399
a page account. Now I have
to go, No, I definitely have

2802
02:53:07.440 --> 02:53:11.239
to go. All right, well, hang around. We'll have some stuff.

2803
02:53:11.280 --> 02:53:13.479
I don't know what, but it'll
be on the website. Yep,

2804
02:53:15.040 --> 02:53:18.120
yes, yes, that's a great
idea. All right, let's get that

2805
02:53:18.120 --> 02:53:18.719
all out of here. See you
next week.