WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:31.280 You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience podcast. Hello, Hello, Jason Cologne 2 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:34.960 twenty one truck till then it's his birthday, caay give a little ship birthday, 3 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:37.960 bro, Happy birthday Jason. How old could he be? Like fifty 4 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:42.280 forty? What a I'll bet he's uh, maybe he's not even that an 5 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:53.240 interest though he's he's probably less than forty something mentioned that. Alright, yeah, 6 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.159 alright, I don't even know if he's in the chat tonight, that 7 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.200 little midget. I didn't seehim yet. How do you like that Mikoles about 8 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:11.280 adge it right and the kettle black pot kettle Yes and happy to Jewish Yes, 9 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:17.319 dont dont you? I'm sorry, let me get that first. Throw 10 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:21.760 that on. What are you doing to do the now? You have to 11 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:26.680 play a song? I can't wait. You can't see it. Don't nobody 12 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:41.680 get the people are gonna be like when Gonzal wiz yea, when you met 13 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.840 your old a. I heard you have Jewish already, good hand. But 14 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:48.079 we got another squad eighteen guy Eddie Tankro just showed up in the group. 15 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.280 Well bless you, Eddie. I know Mikey Millers and the Happy hone and 16 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:56.120 Mikey love you, Mikey Cankro. What's the guy on the show? And 17 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.439 he has a lot people were resting for a firefighter had his information. Yeah, 18 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:04.280 we gotta get Eddie on the ship. Definitely gotta get Eddie on the 19 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:09.639 show. I'll get him trying not too Yeah there is where who is it? 20 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:13.479 Actually? Mikey Milder got me on next Guys. He's a very intriguing 21 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:20.560 guy. Man like renaissance man if you will, Multi talented, multi faceted, 22 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:25.879 that's the multi well rounded like that well rounded. He's too well rounded 23 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:30.520 here, I'm thinking you know what I mean. I just actually I say 24 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:35.479 this all the time. Man Like the talent that fireman have, it's incredible, 25 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.439 right, some of them leave the job, like we had Scotty Burrick 26 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:46.840 right right in squad To eighty eight. Scotty was a fireman and squad To 27 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.560 he knew what he was a talented technical, rest of guy. He was 28 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.280 ultimate fireman. He left a job early because he wanted to take care of 29 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:58.159 his family. Have found a way to he was. He became a stunt 30 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:04.719 man and Hollywood started his own stunt company and now he's he's doing it out 31 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.960 in Hollywood. I can't big movies like he's in Blockbust, the movies rigging. 32 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:10.960 Sometimes you see him in the movie. Sometimes he's in extra movies. 33 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.039 Uh. But I was I was gonna start a segment called second Job Bob 34 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:20.680 and these guys who had second jobs who turned out to be another career. 35 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:27.560 So just the talented fine, and it's just amazing. Bro. I don't 36 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:30.719 know what my talent is. I haven't found it yet, but I'm still 37 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:35.719 looking at my palent breaking windows and breaking balls in the kitchen. Now I'm 38 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:40.879 I'm usefuls I'm done. Now he's on the show. Here there you got. 39 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.759 Roofie is on his way back. He should be. He should be 40 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:47.479 close to being home by now. Man, he drove me. Didn't they 41 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:53.400 have a snowstorm up upstate New York? He's uh, he's out in Iowa. 42 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.639 What stuntfuck or wherever he is of snow out that way last night when 43 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:00.759 he said he was leaving, I was like, oh, really, you 44 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.960 know, there was a little bit of snow upstate, but not anything in 45 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.599 Pete Travel. I don't even know that you get anything. Did you shoot 46 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.479 anything? You know? He didn't even send us a pick. He get 47 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.960 up state before he went out west, you know, but he spent a 48 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.680 lot of money to go on here in Iowa. He showed me a picture 49 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.240 of a coyote who was going to shoot because it was it was killing some 50 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:28.000 of the deer. But he see, we'll see when he's back. He's 51 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.680 back on Monday. We got Mo Davis from Texas, Big Davis from Texas. 52 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.639 Jesus, you know to say about got some Texas right? Really, 53 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:41.279 what do they say? Everything is bigger in Texas? There we gos come 54 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:47.319 from Texas. I don't think anything. We'll see about them. He's got 55 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:55.560 holdes pick oh boy, listen to commercials first before we get our renaissance man 56 00:04:55.560 --> 00:05:00.000 in here. He's a singer to singer and artist Della. I mean, 57 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.480 let's got it brand guy. You know a lot of talent. Yeah, 58 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:10.439 yeah. Another other fellow, Jill, He actually wrote a very funny uh, 59 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.079 what's the name of this song that is gonna say tonight, Mary Jumas, 60 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:19.680 marry Jewish Christmas, Marry Jewish Christmas. Mike another Hebrew Hamma, Hebrew 61 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:24.800 Hamma, he Brew hammah. That was after Mike Moman quote. I wish 62 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:31.560 I had something that was small Hebrew hammer. You do was looking down. 63 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.240 I was like, yeah, yeah, you look at it the right to 64 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:41.319 Actually I got my drawer here of good, all right, trying to fight 65 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:46.439 out. I don't need a magnifying glass, all right. Whatever that person 66 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.680 like, I can't go back to that. Zolowitz is probably the best. 67 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:58.160 Here we Go. 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You know, let's pull 103 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.879 up the old school gift of the day, bro, because that's Christmas and 104 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.440 getting Salty's got a new hoodie out, so you might want to check this 105 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.559 out. We got the this is the old school. You want that gold 106 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:05.840 school? That one right there, Oh, that was the one from last 107 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:07.879 the other day, Bro, get with it. I want to make sure 108 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.480 you don't want to show both. Can you make that big? No? 109 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.200 I have to reload it, but I'll work on it in uh while we're 110 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.600 having some conversations with Black and Red Hoodie. It's a high quality. It's 111 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:22.120 of course, it's high quality. Get on it. Get on it, 112 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.000 and also go back to the cigar box. Bro's humid You can have your 113 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.720 name, your company, whatever you want. He grabbed on that bad boy. 114 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:33.240 He comes with a cigar cutter. Partner sore with it as well. 115 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:41.120 Does it Does that come with a humidification system? It does. We're not 116 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.919 skipping on anything. Nah. You need to keep you need to keep things 117 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.080 points. Yes, you know what, give me the did you get that 118 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.399 text that I just sent your guns? Oh? Man, that will do 119 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.120 that for the end of the show because the voice it got me all nostalgic. 120 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.360 My boy, PETI, the old you know, Pt Pidosa opened up 121 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:01.600 his gun shop. We want to give him a little plug. Did he 122 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:07.320 really Yes, I'm Long Island. I hope that's up by you. Oh 123 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.000 I gotta go. Yes, So we'll throw that up at the end of 124 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.320 the show. And man, I'm sitting one night just to catch up with 125 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.600 him. You know what I mean? For sure we should we should go 126 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.679 to dinner or lunch or something just to get him out of the house. 127 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:22.600 Yeah, well we're going to dinner when Tank comes. So if you want 128 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.919 to come on down right, cot me in. I mean, well, 129 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:30.519 somebody said free. It's for rey. For me. You got to bring 130 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:39.720 your lady. Those couples for a second, Okay, I don't get him 131 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.720 in here. Let's get the guy. Let's get the man of the hour. 132 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.600 I see he's got a bunch of squad eighteen guys in there, and 133 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.000 uh, but you know what, you bring him in guns, you do 134 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.679 it all right. I'm just gonna make sure I hope out Butcher's last name. 135 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.279 But you know what, Welcome to the stage everyone, mister squatty team 136 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:05.399 firefighter Richard ask Nevaski. I say it right, Noleski Neva, Nevaski safe. 137 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.080 You guys got got the eye. But it's there, Naviasky. I 138 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.799 think he might be doing something else in there with that psychedelic backdrop he's got 139 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:22.360 there. Bro, you know what I'm saying. This is the cake the 140 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.759 cave that I never actually used. I said it all up as if I 141 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:28.360 was going to but who did the work in the background there? It's a 142 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.679 tapestry and you know I figured it was better than the blank wall and my 143 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:35.159 uh, you know, my regular spot that I would have been sitting. 144 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:41.120 Can I say that this man was autistic? Bro, he's every other guy's 145 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.679 got to send the block wall back there, and this guy renaissance man put 146 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:50.840 a little figure painted it as something you know or lose curtains. You guys 147 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.919 use the word talent a little loosely with me, but you know so I 148 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.039 quite I got. I got a lot of texts about you today saying that 149 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:05.279 you're talented dude man for a firefighter. So uh, let's get yes. 150 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:13.000 All right, here we go. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 151 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.639 United States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, one 152 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:37.200 nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. This is why 153 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.200 I love the brothers. Look at this one. I was just gonna pull 154 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:48.759 that one up a nice shot. Ryan up, really do all right? 155 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:56.159 Rich? Before we get into your firefighting Korea? Uh, where'd you grow 156 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.320 up? What made you want to be a fine man? We got to 157 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.320 talk about the whole saling thing to what we u before you came a firement, 158 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.080 et cetera, et cetera. All right, Well, I'm a Baltimore 159 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.159 born and raised. You know, I was, uh, you know, 160 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.960 graduate high school, graduated, you know, gradually got graduated college there and 161 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:15.519 stuff, and uh I wound up. I was, I'll skip ahead past 162 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.080 the sailing story for a second, but uh, you know, I moved 163 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:18.720 up to New York as a friend of mine, not out for me a 164 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.200 job, and I was, you know, I was doing nothing. I 165 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.320 was just bouncing around, you know, doing this job and that job and 166 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.720 stuff. And so you know, I got there and I thought, I, 167 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.759 you know, I wonder how you become a fireman? Like I wasn't 168 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:30.799 the kid that grew up wanting to be a fireman. I just, you 169 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.320 know, the idea struck me and I said, I wonder how you become 170 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.279 one? I love, there's a sign you sign up prettier to take the 171 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.399 test. I figured they give the test every couple of months, you know, 172 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.440 And so, you know, with a lot of things I do in 173 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.559 life, you know, it comes with a lot of luck. And I 174 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.759 just had some good luck with having the idea at the exact right time. 175 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.399 So for I'm sure most of the listeners know. But you know, they 176 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.559 give that test every four years or so, and you know, I just 177 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:52.639 happened to look into it at the right time. You know, what where 178 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.720 were you living in Baltimore? What part of Baltimore? I grew up in 179 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:00.120 in the northwest suburbs, in the Baltimore County, you know, if you 180 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:01.399 if you know, Baltimore County is just like a kind of like a doughnut 181 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.279 around the city. And and then I then I lived in North Baltimore in 182 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.799 the city for about five years before I moved up to New York. Was 183 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.159 that like because they do some work down in there, someone like a shithole? 184 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.279 I had no The fire department wasn't even on my radar at that time. 185 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.440 Though. One kid I grew up with was I the one kid I 186 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.919 knew that was a buff you know, and the uh you know he also 187 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:24.000 you know, I'm actually I'm going to see the Ravens game with him this 188 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.440 weekend, you know, but uh you know, he Howard, I would 189 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:30.039 say, is kind of say his name Howard, great, great guy, 190 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:33.759 one of the best is he is a young job down there. He's actually 191 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.559 one of the very few I mean there maybe even the only one at this 192 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.039 point. He's an auxiliary fireman. Down there. He's been doing it forever 193 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.159 and uh so he you know, he he's rides with the you know he 194 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.519 has he's assigned to a house, but he's but he goes as the uh 195 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.840 the auxiliary. You know, he's where he's you know you know what. 196 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:52.399 Yeah, like they used to have and you know, like we had the 197 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.519 guy in two ninety two when I first got there, Hank. I don't 198 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.639 know if you if ray if he probably probably know he was I was before 199 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.279 him. Yeah, I was, Gonnay, he's privately. Yeah, most 200 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.000 of the guys are are like, you know, ancient, you know, 201 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:03.840 like your guys age, you know, like, uh, you know, 202 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:11.480 but you got quick. But he's a comedian too. I didn't know that 203 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:18.120 one. Yeah, honest comedian. So that's hence I guess why you're a 204 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.039 Baltimore fan. Yeah, I can't resist, you know, a hard core 205 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.080 Baltimore fan. Bro. Yeah, I'll fight people for it. You know, 206 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.320 svidiums in a ship mess of a neighborhood too, man over there the 207 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.000 stadium, Yeah yeah, yeah, No, it's you walk a couple of 208 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.240 blocks in the wrong direction and you better turn around quick, you know, 209 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.679 So what are you doing? You're flying all the way there for the game. 210 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.279 Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm a lunatic, you know, but I 211 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.759 get every year I go to one game, you know, so it's it's 212 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:48.759 not like going to you know, multiple games. Family family then not really, 213 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.480 you know, my my family's actually out here, which is I'm in 214 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.360 Colorado, you know, which is kind of the driving force of what we 215 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.320 were looking for a place to go, and it just was kind of like 216 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.720 a path of least resistance, you know, to go. Uh. And 217 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.960 you know, it's good to be in your family too, because you know, 218 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:04.240 right where were you living when you were in New York on the jump? 219 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:07.759 Uh? You know, I bounced around the Burrows for ten years. 220 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.559 I was in Park Slope, I was in Harlem. I was in Long 221 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.200 Island City and Bay Ridge, and then I moved out to beth Page and 222 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.320 I lived there for fourteen years. When my wife got pregnant, she you 223 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.679 know, looked for a house and stuff. So yeah, that'so to you, 224 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.600 ain't it? Right? Back page? Yeah? Next? Yeah, 225 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.279 right next? I think you didn't your I think your brother was your brother 226 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:30.080 that had the deli there? Right? Yes, yeah, my brother was 227 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.399 deli there, yeah, right right on the main main. Yeah, right, 228 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.840 yeah, maybe a good sandwich, right, he didn't. I never 229 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:45.399 met a sandwich. I didn't like good point chicken cutlingd hero. Oh I 230 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:48.080 would be in there. You know. You run into people like Richie Resto 231 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.039 a little too often, you know, but oh no getting rich if you're 232 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.000 listening, If you're listening, I'm sure he's listening because he you know, 233 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.399 he can't resist anything that has to do with the fire department. So so 234 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:00.679 all right, so tell us before he came up, you know, the 235 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.559 job, tell us about the sailing. Oh yeah, so you know I 236 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:04.319 was, Uh, I was, you know, I was working in the 237 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:08.000 boatyard, just doing grunt work and this scraping barnacles and that kind of stuff, 238 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.720 you know. Just and just there was this guy. He had he 239 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:14.200 had been sailing around the world at that point for seventeen years. He was 240 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.279 a Polish guy. He built this this sailboat out of steel. Literally it 241 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.559 was. It was like a like a battleship of a sailboat. And uh, 242 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.839 and he had he was wintering his boat there for the winter, you 243 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.079 know, And I just overheard him talking about he was getting ready to sail 244 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:30.079 back across and he was taking people, you know, so I, uh, 245 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.079 you know, I kind of made an inquiry, and you know, 246 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:33.960 three weeks later, I was I'd never been sailing before either, you know, 247 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.079 I wasn't a sail or. I just worked at the boatyard, you 248 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.319 know. And uh so I was like, I can't resist. I mean, 249 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.680 how do you how do you pass up an opportunity like that? And 250 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.680 as crazy as it is, you know, so so like I say, 251 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.559 three weeks renaissance man, like, you can't you can't hide, bro, 252 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.039 you know, you can't hide from adventures and things like that, because you 253 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.000 know, otherwise, you know, you just wind up. Yeah. Yeah, 254 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.480 so now I say so from Baltimore down to Norfolk, Virginia, we 255 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.039 stayed a couple of days to get some last stuff done and then just had 256 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:07.039 a due due east and uh and we went like we went to sleep that 257 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.559 night, woke up in the morning in the storm, and then the storm 258 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:12.119 stayed with us for about over a week, like like literally sideways hail. 259 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.559 Oh you know what, I'm gonna on a break or whatever. I'm gonna 260 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.559 send you a picture because I got a great shot. I should have sent 261 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:19.680 it to you. It's a great shot at me on the boat that my 262 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.079 friend h Johanan, who was the only other guy that didn't speak Polish on 263 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:26.400 the boat. Uh, it was there were seven of us on the boat. 264 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.480 They spoke Polish the whole time. I learned three words, you know, 265 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:30.839 or so when I was there. And I'm not not not the brightest 266 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.119 student, you know, but uh and but uh anyways, so yeah, 267 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.039 we got we went three weeks. It took us to get to the Azores, 268 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:41.519 which is about you know, two thirds of the way across or so. 269 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.200 And then and then it was another two weeks from the as what we 270 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.519 say there like two days or something, and then another two weeks to get 271 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:51.480 to Spain Cadiz. And then we went down the straight through the straight at 272 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.559 Gibraltar and then just went like for eight days or so. We knew nothing 273 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.440 about sailing, nothing at all, nothing at all. I learned a little, 274 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.640 oh like like crazy. So you know, so that first week when 275 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.440 we were in that storm, I'm gonna I'm talking, I'll do it in 276 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.960 a minute, but I'll send you that picture because you could see the size 277 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:10.480 of the waves. It was like literally ten to thirty foot waves for a 278 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:12.160 week straight. And I was as sick as I've ever been in my life, 279 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.160 you know. But but I just kept going with Somebody had said, 280 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.319 one of the guys on the boat said three days, three days, and 281 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:19.680 you'll be fine. So I was like please, you know, and showing 282 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.240 up the three days like by it's like your equilibrium just figures it out or 283 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:27.400 whatever. And I felt fine after that. But man, but those three 284 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.519 days were some of the toughest days of my life. I can't go on 285 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.880 a fishing boat, and I can. I will to this day if I 286 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.200 go on the boat, I'll get like a fishing boat, I'll get sick. 287 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.119 But like man, I was, you know, I always would say, 288 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.240 if not for the love of my mother, I would have jumped overboard. 289 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:47.759 I was let me see, let me see if I get the straight 290 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.000 So you went for I guess it was five weeks in rough thirty foot waves. 291 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.400 Well well that was just that was just a week that then then we 292 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.839 got just a week and that and a lot of boat. When nobody's smoking, 293 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.759 right, they could they just yeah, it was tough. Weird idea. 294 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:08.240 Yeah, you spend a lot of time in your mind when you're in 295 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:11.359 a situation like that. You know, you're looking around and all you see 296 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.960 his horizon and it's amazing. But it's awesome. You lose your mind, 297 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.240 you know, I'm sure did you have like duties on the boat what we 298 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.319 had to do? We all we all were on a rotation at the wheel, 299 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.880 you know, and uh, you know, and it was like kind 300 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.200 of before GPS, like that there were GPS technology was kind of just coming 301 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:27.759 around. It was not ninety five, I think it was, and and 302 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.240 uh, you know, so we I would just hold the wheel looking at 303 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.319 this compass, you you know, and the whole time I'm just doing this 304 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.799 back and forth, you know, and you know, the other guys, 305 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:38.480 there's other people on this that actually knew how to stay out and they kind 306 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.319 of get it set right and they kind of do little adjustments and stuff. 307 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.559 But we did two hours at a time, and I'd bet that whole two 308 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.960 hours, I'm just going back and forth, just trying to keep that that 309 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:51.279 bow from you know, pointing in the right direction and stuff. And you 310 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:52.680 know, we uh, the storm was terrible, but it was but it 311 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.599 was exciting. We actually made the best time of the whole trip and going 312 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.200 over those kind of waves and stuff. And then and then like later when 313 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.079 between the Azores and Spain. We had an adult drum, which is when 314 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:06.720 there's no wind whatsoever. And uh And for two or three days, I 315 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:08.119 think it was three days, we went like twelve miles. Man. It 316 00:21:08.200 --> 00:21:11.279 was it was that I'll take the storm over that anytime, you know, 317 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.920 because you really lose your mind, you know. But you know, like 318 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.039 I, we all went swimming in the ocean, like in the middle of 319 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:19.319 the ocean at that point. But which is the creepiest, scariest thing you 320 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.759 can imagine, you know. I did like a dove off, did a 321 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:23.759 lap around the boat, and it was like, all of a sudden, 322 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.640 the boat was the size of a like a football field. It just it 323 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.720 felt like I was never going to get back to the ladder again, you 324 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.039 know. I just I'm seeing like giant tentacles coming up towards me and stuff. 325 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.400 So how old did you stay in Spain? Then? I didn't really 326 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.519 stay that long. I didn't have a whole lot of money with me either, 327 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.680 you know. So like I I got to I got off the boat 328 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:48.480 in the Bealaris Islands and I took a ferry to to Valencia and I had 329 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:49.759 this big plan. I'm going to travel Europe. But I had this, 330 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:57.920 But did you talk to a volleyball? Yeah? But you know, so 331 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:00.400 like I'm walking around with this iron double bag. I didn't even have a 332 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.480 backpack, and I'm trying, you know. So I traveled for like like 333 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.880 a week and then I uh, then I flew home from there. So 334 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:11.279 I was I was going flew home. I was gonna say, Holy yeah, 335 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:12.680 I knew that all along. I knew he was staying and I was. 336 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:15.880 I wasn't staying in Europe. I was just trying to get a wild 337 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:22.000 experience out of it. I just sent you just come. I'm gonna dig 338 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:27.359 up this picture. Can I text? Just sent it to me. Okay, 339 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.240 maybe it's the same one. Give me a couple of seconds too. 340 00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:38.640 Yeah, that looks like a whole bunch of fun to me. Bro it 341 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.119 actually was. I'm gonna i'll show you if if it's I'm gonna send you 342 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.119 this picture just in case it's not the same one. But but I'm going 343 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.240 to show you something in that pictures that you're gonna be pretty impressed with, 344 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.039 probably the most impressive thing in the old trip. Did you test it to 345 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.000 me? I did, I didn't go through Yeah. Yeah, so so 346 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:57.319 if you look at if you can see, uh you know, it's the 347 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.559 same one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you look 348 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.839 at those two back rails, you know, in the back center of the 349 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.039 boat, and if you if you kind of look, you can see the 350 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.319 top one arches back, you know, like it's like on an arch in 351 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.200 it, you know. Yeah. So the thing about that boat was it 352 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.720 had a bathroom, but the bathroom didn't work, you know, so that's 353 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.720 that was the bathroom. You know in those waves too, you know, 354 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.519 would you'd sit on that thing and hang your ass over the ocean and just 355 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:23.960 you know, let it fall as fast as you could, you know, 356 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:26.720 with somebody standing right in front of your stee in the boat and is you 357 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:29.799 know there was one woman on board too, you know, but like she 358 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.960 was she was actually like the second most experienced salur on the boat other than 359 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:38.160 the captain himself. Is that you know that looks like a load of fun 360 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:48.680 to me? It was yeah, life experience, right like yeah, I 361 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.319 mean, I guess you could you can see from an early age that my 362 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.960 head was never quite screwed on straight, you know, I can see myself 363 00:23:56.079 --> 00:24:02.680 just a little a drift, you know, you do anything else that might 364 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:03.920 be of interest, like that before you get on it, before you get 365 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:11.519 into the fire department Korea. Probably you know my you know, my brain 366 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.160 is also the kind of brain that you can drain spaghetti through. So you 367 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.720 know, I don't have I don't have too much like access to all these 368 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.920 like points. Was at least what's that? Was the Polish girl good looking? 369 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.759 At least? Oh she was, you know, I can't remember because 370 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.880 at that time, even though she was younger than I am now, I 371 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.079 thought she was a lot older. So I was like, you know, 372 00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:36.119 and the truth to be told, there was this kind of secret was it 373 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:41.240 a naked Spanish? But there was a there was another guy on board that 374 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.640 was you know, I wouldn't say his name, even though I have no 375 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.640 idea if he's even living dead or whatever. You know, I haven't talked 376 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.200 to him in thirty years or whatever. But but he was married and we 377 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:53.160 were up you know, one hundred percent sure that they had a little thing 378 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:56.079 going on and stuff like that. So it's like what happens in the middle 379 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.079 of the Atlantic States, isn't they said zip codes? I don't even think 380 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.559 there are are zip codes out there. That's that's crazy, man, that 381 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.519 is insane. All right. So let's go back again to uh, you 382 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:14.720 take the test right, and yes, you get on you go to Promary 383 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.559 school when uh, February four, two thousand and one is when we started. 384 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.599 So I was the first class of the one top of the list, 385 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.920 as they call us, top of the list. So what was your listening 386 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:30.240 about? Oh I was two fifteen. You beat me, man, See 387 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:36.279 that's it's the brain. So you did well on it. Man, I 388 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.359 don't got the muscles that you got, you know, but somebody didn't really 389 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.559 have, you know. It wasn't something like, oh I got to do 390 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:42.440 this, this is what I want to do my whole life. You're like, 391 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.920 I think I'll take it. Yeah, like everything I do in life, 392 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.359 sailing across the ocean be coming up an accidental you know, all right, 393 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:53.799 I just I just I'm like far just going by, just dopely, 394 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.920 just walk along and and things, you know, follow my lap sometimes, 395 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:02.799 you know. So who was in your provy class? Anybody that we might 396 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.640 know. Let me think, I mean a lot of people, well, 397 00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:10.599 Dilly, you know there's a lot of uh yeah, yeah, Andy Androse 398 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.559 in our class. You know, we had it's a great class. I 399 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.640 mean there's a lot of guys still in the job, believe it or not, 400 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.480 you know, but yeah, uh, you know, there's a bunch 401 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:23.440 of guys from SOCC you know, like uh spindor Eric Lajoda, you know, 402 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.640 Pac Gorman he's not in sock though. He's a a lot of guys 403 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.799 here. It's a good class. So you get the lucky call go to 404 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.680 two ninety two. Obviously you really didn't know anybody at the time. Yeah 405 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.720 with me, Yeah, yeah, no, you're right, it didn't. 406 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.160 It's funny thing is because my class we did the fourteen weeks, right, 407 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.240 So we did ten weeks in the academy, then we went to a temporary 408 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:45.519 house of the I mean, you guys probably remember this, but I'll just 409 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.480 say it for the the audience or whatever. But it's like, uh, 410 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.880 you know, we got sent to temporary houses where we did seven weeks in 411 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.039 the engine across the floor and then did seven weeks. I don't even remember 412 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:57.359 that. Yeah, because they did it. They started it before nine to 413 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.599 eleven. It was supposed to be the new thing, and then nine to 414 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.200 eleven ended it. You know, but uh, my class was the only 415 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.279 one that did it the way it was intended, which it wasn't the best 416 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.039 program, I'm gonna be honest, you know, but but we uh we 417 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.039 went for those three months and then we went back to the academy for three 418 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:14.400 weeks. And when we went back to the academy, they didn't know what 419 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:15.440 to do with us because well you've already been in the you know, so 420 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:22.640 so anyways, then then we then we got our permanent fifty four fifty three, 421 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.119 you know, they Avenue U watch Dogs. It was an amazing house. 422 00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:26.279 I had a great time there. Yeah, I got some great, 423 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.160 great experience. I you know, probably only had like three fires or so, 424 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.480 but good ones, you know. Yeah, and uh yeah, it 425 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:37.440 was a great, great experience. And they're on Avenue U and uh, 426 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.079 I forget no, I can't think of the street. That's it. They're 427 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:42.640 on the corner there. But uh, because I you know, I I 428 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.920 had didn't work in Brooklyn except for that little brief period, so I don't 429 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.039 Yeah, what what companies did they run with over there? Well, like 430 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:53.319 the ship, like the highway and stuff like that. Oh, I worked 431 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:57.079 in a highway once. And and then when I was there, that was 432 00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.880 when a Father's Day happened, you know, I was, I was in 433 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.720 I was in that house at that time, and so when I uh, 434 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.160 you know, and so Father's Day for people that don't know, was the 435 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.359 fire where U two guys from Rescue four and then the one guy from one 436 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.720 sixty three you know, were killed in the So for me getting a sign 437 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:22.160 there, Bryan Fahi and John yeah, yeah down which I never met those 438 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.599 guys, but I heard so many stories about him as soon as I got 439 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.640 there, of course, but I was like me, I was, here's 440 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.400 I'm this young, dough eyed kid, you know, and I was I 441 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:30.359 was like, I can't believe I'm going to this house. I mean, 442 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.680 what's that going to be? Like? You know, these guys just lost 443 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:36.440 you know, what what did you get there? Bro? Well, I 444 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.640 got there in July, you know, and the yeah, yeah, he 445 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.680 was probably like three or four weeks ahead. I forget how many exactly how 446 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.880 long, you know, and then and then two months after that was not 447 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.519 eleven, you know. So it was like a house that was reeling and 448 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:48.480 then all of a sudden they were real and even harder, you know. 449 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:53.000 So but how would you get along with the guys and rescue when you got 450 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.160 there. How was that whole relationship anyway between two ninety two? And the 451 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.400 thing is, like, I'm not a hater. I'm a lover, you 452 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.400 know, like you know, like the fire department, there's the haters and 453 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.000 the lovers. I love everybody, except if there's a few people. I'm 454 00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.079 not going to name their names, but there's a few people that I actually 455 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.000 oh yeah, it's the top of the list, you hear me, Just 456 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:18.680 kidding, prick you, but there's you know. So so I got along 457 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:19.799 great with those guys, and I was in on their drills and stuff like 458 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.000 that. So they really liked me, you know, like I got to 459 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.720 really like Bronco a lot. I mean he was like, uh he was 460 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:27.799 you know that did the car. He was just like the that gentle teddy 461 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.279 bear giant you know that. You know, I remember like that the under 462 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.640 the Bridge party that that they used to have where like you know, of 463 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:42.440 course you guys remember that where under the Brooklyn and and of course, yeah, 464 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.279 you always have a tendency. That's the best party. It was like 465 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.160 a ratio of like nine women to one guy. Yeah, we got to 466 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:56.200 go and fuck it up because that summer two fucking probs that had after my 467 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.839 Proby class and I was still a proby that. I think it was that 468 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.720 same year they tried to swim to fucking Manhattan. That's what That's what happened. 469 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:08.000 An interesting story. Jim Eddy was the Papalian chief that ended up like 470 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:14.559 being in charge of getting them fished out of the Really he had great stories 471 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.400 about like dropping them off, keeping them out of the limelight. Yeah, 472 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.319 interesting, dude, that was. That was the best party ever. It 473 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.359 was who did two o four two old? I don't remember companies did? 474 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.839 Was it the Happy Hookers or I guess whatever they're calling down It wasn't the 475 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.200 Happy Hooker is uh? I forget who it was. But it was right 476 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.640 under the Brooklyn Bridge, and I said they would go into Manhattan and Brooklyn 477 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.960 and drop all of the leaflets buller nurses and it was like nine women. 478 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.599 Yeah, one of the only times in FDN y thing. It wasn't a 479 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.839 hot dog party. He was like nine chicks to everything, one fireman. 480 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.759 Right, of course we gotta fuck it up. We always fuck it up. 481 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:56.839 But I was so that that that party that summer. You know, 482 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.160 I think I was in two ninety two for a week at that time or 483 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.400 something like that. And at that time, Bronco was just this giant, 484 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.400 you know, you know, scary guy for a Proby or whatever. And 485 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:08.440 you know, so I'm at the party and I spot him. I see 486 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.240 him like that guy on Bronco, you know stuff, and and you know, 487 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.160 I don't think he's going to say anything to me. And I'm figuring 488 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.359 I was just like the Proby, you know, don't be don't you know, 489 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.599 be seen, don't be her kind of a thing or whatever. And 490 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:21.680 he like he it was like the Red Sea. He just parted the crowd 491 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.880 and came just made a bee line towards me and just put his arm around 492 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.799 me and he just like, you know, he just like took me under 493 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:27.960 that that giant wink of his and stuff. I mean, he was just 494 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.240 such a great guy. You know. Picture of him when he was a 495 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.279 probably right, no, no, the only one to have is the squad 496 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.359 pick unless that picture with the pumpkin on his head. Yeah, that was 497 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:45.559 the World Trade ten of picture. Oh this one, that one yeah even 498 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:51.559 covered and all that ship. I was handsome as hell, wasn't I Hollywood 499 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.720 should have found. Speaking of Scotty Buorick, he couldn't have pulled me along 500 00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.960 with him. I could have been a star, you know. Yeah, 501 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.440 James Beach, you said Engine two five brooklyn Bridge, part of Brooklyn Bridge. 502 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:10.720 Yeah, yep, all right, So, uh what qcb's had that 503 00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.640 question about the Brotherhood documentary? Which were which one was the brother I forget 504 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:20.119 which one that one? There was one that I don't know the squad Metcalf 505 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.160 I believe was well, yeah, I might have been. I don't remember 506 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.920 now because I actually a girl that was working on it was an old friend 507 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.160 of mine. So like, I don't remember if I was in that one 508 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.480 though or not. There was the there was the one I used to try 509 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.599 to hide kind of, I believe it or not, because now like I'm 510 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.279 like, hey, Limelight, where are you? You know, But like 511 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.079 I was, I'll try to, you know, hide from the cameras and 512 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.519 stuff. But they had cameras in there were there. It was a follow 513 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.240 up to a I forget what one of those news shows that the you know 514 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.480 whatever it was, and and it was it was like kind of like a 515 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.960 follow up day after the Father's Day fire and and you know, now they're 516 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.599 going back and talking to Mike Millner was like prominent in it. And then 517 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:58.559 and uh like they had like Thanksgiving dinner with you know, Thanksgiving in the 518 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.839 firehouse with all the you know, the wise special Yeah, yeah, they 519 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.480 had with them. You can spot me in a couple of spots there, 520 00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.720 you know. Yeah, you mean all the producers haven't seen you and got 521 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.279 you into Hollywood. Bro. I can't I can't understand. I don't know. 522 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:15.200 I have no idea that it might it might be this, but I 523 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.279 don't know. And yeah, so we got the opposite haircuts, me and 524 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.680 Kevin. You know, man, so you're working in two ninety two, 525 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.240 right, so f nine eleven, it must have been late insane, right 526 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.640 with the wives they lost, and it was brutal, you know, it 527 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.200 was absolutely, I mean, you know it was for the engine dam you 528 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:42.680 know, you know, the house together or what was that we at that 529 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.720 time? And again I was not in two ninety two for at the time, 530 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:46.640 it seemed like forever. It was probably a year and a half or 531 00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:50.160 whatever, because I went, you know, February of O three is when 532 00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.880 I went to Spot eighteen. But but but we all got along great at 533 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.480 that time, you know, because you're going through something together, you know, 534 00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.359 I know, I know that through different periods. You know, when 535 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.559 you have those double houses with the with the rescue company that you know, 536 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.960 there's sometimes there's there's a little more headbutting than than maybe there should be or 537 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.000 whatever. But but everybody got along as far as I can tell, you 538 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.000 know, like everyone got along great. There were definitely fights and like literal 539 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.679 fist fights and stuff like that, but those things happened, you know, 540 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.719 no matter what. You know, you know, so you know, because 541 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.800 we all, you know, we all like threw in together to you know, 542 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.280 getting these memorials and the and the you know, funerals you know, 543 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.440 organized and whatnot, and you know, it was just it was something that 544 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.039 we were all going through together. And I think because of that, there 545 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.519 was it was a unique time to be there, you know. And but 546 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.480 uh, but you know, and then and then for me, you know, 547 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.760 we had an extremely low roster too, Like I was the first probe 548 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.960 they had gotten. Uh no, it wasn't that I was the first proby 549 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:45.920 they had gotten in a while, but it but it was just that they 550 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:49.880 only had I think twelve guys on the roster when I got there. So 551 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.440 so for me, like, uh, you know, at that time, 552 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.159 rescue had gotten. They always had access to it. It was like an 553 00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.840 ambulance, it was like a van at one point, whatever it was. 554 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.360 They always had a vehicle that was going every morning down to the site. 555 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:05.119 So I wasn't really There's a couple of times that I got to go there 556 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.119 on duty, you know, but because we had such a little roster, 557 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.880 really not that much. But every every morning I got off, I jumped 558 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.880 on that thing with those guys, and so, you know, and that 559 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.239 that also like really bonded me with those guys really strong, because you know, 560 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:16.840 I was here. I am, I was, I was you know, 561 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.039 you know, I don't know if terrified it's the right word, you 562 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:22.039 know, but like, you know, I was. It was you know, 563 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.840 it's hard for a seasoned fireman, you know. And then but imagine 564 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.519 the guy like like me, who had you know, barely even seen dead 565 00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:30.679 bodies at that point. Now all of a sudden, I was surrounded by 566 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.599 him, you know, like pieces and everything else, and you know, 567 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.920 so and I think that shocked a little wake up call for you man, 568 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:40.920 you know. And I think, uh, I think because of that, 569 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.599 like that, there's you know, and even stronger bonded stuff. You know 570 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:46.679 there was there was guys in that. I mean it was it was such 571 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.559 an all star cast in that and and Rescue for at that time too, 572 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:52.840 you know with who the senior guys who remember floor at that time. Well, 573 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.119 so you know Mike, you know, Mike Milner of course was who 574 00:35:55.159 --> 00:36:04.000 I love to death. You know, you know there's that's uh uh, 575 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.840 this is the one I would go see with Milner, the Firehouse documentary with 576 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.119 the guy try to show a few guys in the firehouse. Yeah. So 577 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:15.559 I was trying to see where you were on the table. You know, 578 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:21.880 I'm in the table somewhere right in there. Heglands, right, heland then 579 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.719 can't see as has as big as I can make. It looks like Murphy, 580 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.719 isn't it. Yeah, it's Billy Murphy and least the wonderful Lisa Murphy. 581 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.599 I loved it. Yeah, there, I am right there. Okay, 582 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.199 That's that's why my you know, my trade. I've been told you 583 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.719 know by an old uh, an old Indian man one time, you know, 584 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:46.199 like a yogi. They said that that I could be a king in 585 00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.159 certain parts of the world, you know with this really I should be a 586 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.800 king too? Was all right there bro give it a breaking notes but only 587 00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.239 have two hands drunken before. And that's why was like this way well for 588 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.079 which way he goes? I don't know. Speaking of Murphy, I mean, 589 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.039 Billy was the was the absolute godsend for me because you know he, 590 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.639 you know, Murphy, like he can break balls better than the best. 591 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:14.599 He's like a race eally you know, and and and but he you know, 592 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:16.280 he took me under his wing man him and Liam, you know Liam 593 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:21.239 who never stopped. You know, he was always either working doing a funeral 594 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:23.039 or at the site one. I don't even think he slept, you know, 595 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.679 but you know, so those two and you know you had I just 596 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.599 you know, like guys that came over right after that, like were like 597 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.719 Ray Griffin, who uh you and you know Richie Schmidt and those guys like 598 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.559 that. You know, I was still there when they when they arrived there. 599 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.280 But you know, it's a it was a great house. I mean 600 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.119 I really I loved it. You know, I thought it was the best 601 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:45.159 house in the world. Like you know, like they say, whatever ause 602 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.519 you're in is the best house on the job. And that's how it felt 603 00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.559 too, you know, I did actually for people don't believe me. But 604 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:53.400 I got a lot of work there. You know, it's really it was 605 00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:59.199 like a from when I got there in eighty one, did a little bit 606 00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:02.599 of work, but their work has picked up. Yeah, over the years, 607 00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.159 I think that the neighborhood became more congested, a lot more people living 608 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:12.639 in. Yeah, you crossed off Queens Boulevard and all Hispanic yesterday on this 609 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.639 side it's all Asian. Yeah, you know, it's it's true. You 610 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:16.880 know, you got these like you know, it's definitely like it's almost like 611 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.719 you were walking into you know, like like you say, like little you 612 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.880 know, little Mexico and little like you know, like they're just you know, 613 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.280 communities or whatever. But you know, but poor communities of of of 614 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.840 such and you know, like you know, the best nozzle job I had 615 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.079 in my entire career was in one of my last tours that I worked there, 616 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.159 and you know, we we uh we turned out and remember al Vertundi, 617 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.559 he was our lieutenant at the time, and it's just remember the absolute 618 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:45.199 maniac, one of the one of the funnest guys to work with. I 619 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.639 love, I loved working with him. But but we we we pull up 620 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.639 on whatever it was sixty whatever it's street or avenue or whatever the hell. 621 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.920 You know, Queens is as confusing as it gets. But but and and 622 00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.599 you know, he's like he gave a second alarm. On arrival. It's 623 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.079 like the whole house is just blowing with fire. The house next door is 624 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.679 on fire from you know, the siding and stuff. And you know, 625 00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.280 so we kind of hit the and eye the nozzle. You know. You 626 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.880 know, they were mad because they had given me the nozzle because I was 627 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:13.199 leaving. But like, but anyways, you know, so we go in 628 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:15.599 there, we we you know, put out all this fire. I didn't 629 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.760 even realize I lost my helmet in the door, you know. You know, 630 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.800 I tell your brother, you know, you know, Kevin for people 631 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.880 that don't know, Kevin's brother was like that. When I was there, 632 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:24.920 he was I believe it was a division commander of the fourteenth, you know. 633 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:28.840 And but you know, so I didn't obviously didn't have a chin strap 634 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.119 on. I had no idea. I didn't have a helmet on until my 635 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:35.599 my buddy's like, who's this and he said, I found your helmet. 636 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.840 Oh thanks, you know, But but so anyway, you know, we 637 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.000 get the whole first floor out, we get we make our way up the 638 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.599 stairs. We're you know, half the second floors going. And and then 639 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.920 we opened one door and there's a pit pull in there, you know, 640 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.639 alive, you know, and and another dog that sadly was not alive, 641 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.239 you know. And and so we kind of shut the door and we finish 642 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.039 our thing, and we get relieved on the line like the attic was going 643 00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.360 to you know, we the second new company went and put the attic out 644 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.400 and stuff, and and we go outside and uh and al Vertundi says, 645 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.719 hey, Richie, you want to get on you want to get your picture 646 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:06.440 of the paper. I said, well, what do you mean? He 647 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.039 goes, how do you feel about going and getting that dog out of the 648 00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:12.880 I said, I'll get the dogs. So I go inside and uh and 649 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.960 I go in and I opened the door in this scary looking pit bull. 650 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:17.039 But I can see him. I say, easy boy, and he kind 651 00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.000 of wagged his ass because you know, he saw that I was, you 652 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.880 know, he dog was probably freaking out, you know. And and I 653 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.480 like, I kind of scooped up this. I'll probably weighed seventy pounds, 654 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.639 you know. And I remember, like the chief and everybody plastered to the 655 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.320 walls. I'm coming down, going down the stairs, and and I and 656 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.159 I and so I'm sorry. So Ratundi had said, he's like, because 657 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.159 there's a photographer from the I forget if it was a daily news or the 658 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:38.440 Post or whatever. And he said he's got to get your picture when you 659 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.039 come out. So I was like, great, you know, So I 660 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.800 get at him all acting just like I'm just doing my job, and I 661 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:46.360 kind of pause on the porch, just like looking around, you know, 662 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:51.320 as if i'm you know whatever, I look at like I spotographers. I'm 663 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:57.199 just kind of look acting like I'm just like a seven exactly. Then and 664 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.679 as as I see the photographer raising his camera, the I it's it's really 665 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.000 actually terrible. But the poor guy who had just lost everything, you know, 666 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.519 the guy who owned the house, he dove on this camera man and 667 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.440 just tackled him to the ground. The cops had to pull him off and 668 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.840 everything, so he never got the picture. And I can't really what can 669 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.360 I say, because this poor guy had just lost everything and he sees someone 670 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.360 taking a picture of his of his loss and everything. And but I was 671 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.280 mad because I was like, I was already envisious a moment in the sun, 672 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.239 bro, he took it away from you. Yeah, I was a 673 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.239 visiiting of you know, on my parents' wall for the rest of their lives 674 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.760 and stuff like that. You know, So with only a year and a 675 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.480 half, what makes you decide you want to go to squatty team? And 676 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.400 you know, sometimes people look and they say, you know, that guy's 677 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.960 got something special and I was just kidding. But but but Steve, they 678 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.920 find out later that is not true, you know. But but Steve Mikolitch 679 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.840 was who was a firefighter and rescue for at that time, and he got 680 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.440 promoted to the squat eighteen. And and you know, of course all the 681 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.719 squad guys you know better than anybody you know, like, uh, you 682 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:00.119 know, like all the squads and rescues. You know, we're so uh 683 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.639 decimated from nine to eleven. You know. So he said, Riche, 684 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.559 why don't you come over to squad eight team? We need guys. And 685 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.440 I said, I only got two years on the job. He goes, 686 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:08.920 it doesn't matter. We'll teach everything you need to know. And so, 687 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:10.920 you know, I I said, well, let me let me get back 688 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.559 to you. You know, I should have just said yes right away. 689 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.199 I was like, let me get back to you. And I went and 690 00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:16.719 I asked all the guys and rescue and the engine, you know, and 691 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.119 and all the guy is funny because all the guys in the rescue to a 692 00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.320 t were just like, don't even you know, don't even think about it, 693 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.599 just go, you know, go like tomorrow or whatever. And like 694 00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.000 the guys in the engine, and some of them said that and so and 695 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:30.079 like, you know, I think it was Sean McPherson. Actually you mentioned 696 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.239 before, you know, who said to me. I forget if it was 697 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.199 him or not. I think it was though he said, he said, 698 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.320 Richie, what you should really do? And in retrospect, he was totally 699 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.840 right, except for that I wound up having the exact career that I wanted. 700 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:43.760 I mean, I loved I loved working in squad a team from day 701 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:45.519 one to the last day. But but he said, well, you should 702 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:47.199 do you should do, you know, do a few more years in the 703 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:51.119 engine, then transfer into a busy truck, you know, get the experience 704 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.760 on both sides, and then and then go into soccer. And and he 705 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.000 was actually right, you know, but the thing was, you know, 706 00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.960 they just they needed guys, you know, and and and so like when 707 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.280 I got there, that's what. That's how much time everybody had on at 708 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.880 that time. You know, we all had two three One guy you know 709 00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:06.880 came on. He was still at a provy patch on his helmet, you 710 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.920 know. And but but we wound up, you know, all working together 711 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:13.519 for like fifteen years or so together and stuff, and we just we got 712 00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:15.679 I mean, like I said, like Kevin and and Ray, both of 713 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:16.679 you guys, I mean in a different way because you were a little more. 714 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.960 Ray you were much more senior. And and Kevin, I forget when 715 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.480 you got on, but I know you're much more senior than me, you 716 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.800 know. And so but but you know, these all these young guys coming 717 00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.760 in, it's just like you kind of you built that that house back from 718 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.880 like from you know, from this massive awful thing that had happened to it. 719 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.519 And uh and it's like it was like a real point of pride. 720 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.079 And and you know I always had that point of pride. I I would 721 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.679 love Squad eighteen to my dying day, you know, I mean honestly, 722 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.800 I love all this hoc companies still my dying day. You know. But 723 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.920 who was the captain. Then when you went there, it was Mike Donovan, 724 00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.800 the great Mike Donovan, you know, and then another legendary guy one 725 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:59.840 two Flimen. Yeah, it's awesome. And Lieutenant worked a long time and 726 00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:00.639 you and I think he's still working with me. Yeah, I think he 727 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.239 is. I think he is. Hey. Yeah. And then and then 728 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.920 when he you know, his back was messed up and so he got out 729 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.320 that summer and then uh, and then Tom O'Brien after that, you know, 730 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:15.280 and then uh and then yeah man, yeah, yeah, yeah, 731 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.320 yeah, yeah, seventy six guy, I think right, it was in 732 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.280 seventy six. Lieutenant wasn't Brian Smith? Uh? Captain also and then and 733 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:27.000 then captain Captain Smith for a while actually probably for my longest time. It 734 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.760 was a funny guy, man, Yes, the smartest guy you know operationally 735 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.039 on the job. You know, I don't know about anything else but the 736 00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.199 job itself. He knew, like you know, as as good as anybody. 737 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.280 You know. It's just it's just so sharp. He was up in 738 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.440 the Bronx, he was climbing up in the bronx. Yeah, yep, 739 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.239 yeah, he's great. I love him to death. He drove me crazy 740 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.159 when he was my captain half the time. But you know we used to 741 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:51.599 butt heads here and there. But but we we we have a lot of 742 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:53.400 love for each other, you know, but at the time that we didn't 743 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.639 always have that love. You know, we got to a few a few 744 00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:59.400 screaming matches, you know, and stuff like that. But uh, but 745 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:00.719 you know, I mean, you know, I'll tell you a funny story 746 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:05.400 because you know, some of the guys that are listening that no Meal love 747 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:07.280 this one, because you know, I had this reputation of being a bad 748 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.320 driver, you know when I got when I went to show for school, 749 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.679 but it was only because I never drove, you know, like you know, 750 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.599 you go to show for school and then you know a year agoes by 751 00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:16.960 and you've driven like five times. You know, it's like you're supposed to 752 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.320 remember what you're doing, you know. So like so anyways, I it's 753 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.440 it was Saint Patrick's saying it was a snowy Saint patrick'sday, and I wind 754 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:27.519 up driving the I forget if it was a twenty four, if it was 755 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.559 just a night and it was an overtime tour, and so like I'm you 756 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.639 know, I pull onto you know, you know, like I wasn't that 757 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.199 good at the time. I'm not gonna say I was. But like I 758 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.159 wind up taking the side mere off of a car, which how many billion 759 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:46.119 times does that happen? Right? That never happened? Right? So right? 760 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:52.599 Yeah, cans on the other hand, that's another story. Oh and 761 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.119 so yeah, So we get back to the quarters. It's like three in 762 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:58.880 the morning, and he starts fallowing me out and and so and now it's 763 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.400 just like i'd had an offense. I'm balling back and you know, we're 764 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.239 like we're like nose to those He's like, you'll never drive again, and 765 00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:07.679 short enough, I never did until until the end of my career. Captain 766 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:09.840 Bertucci sent me back to Trover school and then I then I started driving at 767 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.000 the very end. You know, I says, this is what I'm missing. 768 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:15.880 I like, who's the captain there now? Bertucci? Oh? Bertucci 769 00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.480 still Prducci? Yeah yeah, yeah. I was in Provy school with him, 770 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:22.880 man, yeah. Yeah. He helped me out a lot when I 771 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.239 was getting out of him. He's just he's he really he looks out for 772 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.519 the guys. He really does. Well, what you didn't you get out? 773 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:32.280 Uh? Twenty one February fourth twenty one is almost to the day, 774 00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.800 right, not almost to the day to the minute. It was to the 775 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.320 day a minute to the second. Right. I watched I watched that nine 776 00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.320 o'clock appear on my computer, you know. And I'm gonna be honest with 777 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:43.760 you. I know. You know, I don't I tell some people. 778 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.039 I don't tell everybody this, But I didn't feel coming. I saw that 779 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.800 nine o'clock hit, and now I had tears pouring out of my eyes. 780 00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:51.119 Man, I was bawling my eyes out. I couldn't believe. It's just 781 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.599 like the the just like the heaviness just hit me of like wow, that 782 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:58.119 was that. That's over. You know when when they told me I was 783 00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.880 done, it felt like my best friend done. Yeah. He said, 784 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.159 you know you get now, and I was like yeah. People people don't 785 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.360 understand, like how how like how big it is for us, you know, 786 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.039 like you know how much you go through thought of your identity? Bro, 787 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:13.400 who you are? You know? I tell my wife this all the 788 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.599 time, Like, I mean, I wasn't an officer. I was a 789 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.079 senior man. But they used to run everything through me. They just call 790 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.880 me home for everything. You come, you come up to you this is 791 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.639 what's going on. You come home, you sit across from your wife and 792 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:28.159 kids. I mean, you're just dad, you know, I mean, 793 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.199 which is an important thing, but you know it isn't. You come from 794 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:36.800 being somebody and a job where you feel like a superhero. You're running out 795 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:37.920 the door. I say all the time, it's the close thing to be 796 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.039 in the superhero. The along goes off, you get your batmobile, you 797 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.920 run there. You're helping somebody, saving somebody's life. There is no better 798 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.559 feeling than that. That's that's you're a superhero. And you come home and 799 00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.480 you're just like, you know, like you good fellas, just like every 800 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:58.119 other schnook that you lieutenant to take out the garbage, right, Yeah, 801 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.000 you take a bunch of like funny looking guys like us and you put us 802 00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:06.559 in these uniforms and people suddenly think we're good looking. Yeah. Yeah, 803 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.360 the Blue Magnet. You go to a party. Yeah, I thought, 804 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.360 I think I'm I'm telling some jokes and ripping somebody apart. And I was 805 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.360 like, you think the fire house. You can't. You can't talk to 806 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.280 people like you really, you really have to learn to tone it back, 807 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:25.679 especially the human that was very quite about being retired, but was not saying 808 00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:30.719 what popped in my head? Yeah, Like, I can't tell you how 809 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.320 the times my wife says that to me, Like you talk like that, 810 00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.639 I mean maybe in the fire house, but you're not in the fire house 811 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:40.159 anymore. Like, Okay, I thought everybody talks WI listen the kids on 812 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:47.480 probies. You can't. So what about some good jobs in the eighteen? 813 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.840 Bro, talk to us about some good jobs out because you have there's so 814 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:53.760 many of them, you know, I mean, you know, yeah, 815 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.760 I mean, well that one that that was that was actually absolutely horrible, 816 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.159 actually one of my worst days of work, but it was that, you 817 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.199 know, the favorite days that I always had to working in Squatt eighteen were 818 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.480 the Gay Pride Parade and the UH and the Halloween parade. You know, 819 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:09.440 I always tried to mutual into those tours if I wasn't working, because it 820 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.760 was just it was so much fun. You know, the place was it 821 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.000 was, you know, his hats and horns everywhere, you know, And 822 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.800 and that that was that Halloween where the guy rented uh like a pickup truck 823 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.639 from like a lowser a home depot and then he wherever it was and he 824 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:27.519 and he he he had gone and drove down that bike path just like people 825 00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.039 over. Yeah, and then he came out and he went and he hit 826 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.079 the the school bus. You know, that's how he ended. He went 827 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.400 and you hit a school bus full of kids. Thank god, nobody got 828 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.280 hurt on there. And then I think he got he jumped out and I 829 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.119 think he got shot in the belly. And I hope he's still alive riding 830 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.280 in jail to be honest, But but I'm not sure, you know, 831 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.000 but but so, but so, you know, nobody knew about the bike 832 00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.239 paths remarkably, you know, because it was he wrote, rode over like 833 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:51.039 twenty something people. But that was like that was an m c I who 834 00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:55.960 was a boss, was a she called an m c I right away in 835 00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.599 which yeah, yeah, she was saving a lot of life. Yeah, 836 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:01.880 yeah, she was phenomenal. So what what happened was, you know, 837 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.920 everybody that was getting sent including us, was getting sent down to that school 838 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:08.960 bus. Nobody knew about the bike path and we just happened to be driving 839 00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:13.719 down the west side of Highway to get there. And Sheldon George was was 840 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.960 detailed to the squad eighteen that day. Another guy, I love you you 841 00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:19.360 know, but uh, but from Squad one, you know, and and 842 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.320 he's like and I remember him saying, he's like, man, what's going 843 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.400 on with all these people land Land. There's a lot of people laid out 844 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.480 on the you know, we stop and we look and all of a sudden, 845 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.239 you see somebody waving like crazy like this, and so we pulled over 846 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.400 and we got out, and it was like right away we walked into these 847 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.000 three people. When one person had like their late literally their leg was off 848 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.840 and like and then like head indrew with brains out in another person. Stuff. 849 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.760 It was just you know, it was one of those true true like 850 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.800 where they say, like the treoge where you got to say, like, 851 00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:45.800 I can't do anything for that person right now, Uh, that persons, 852 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.719 you know, beyond anything we can do. You know, I'll try to 853 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.599 help this person stuff. And because it was just us and we're watching fire 854 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.960 trucks you know, and ambulances speeding past us, we're trying to get them 855 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.559 on the radio, you know. Brian Roberts was the was the show he's 856 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:02.440 on with Manhattan. But it took a while. It felt like it took 857 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:06.239 forever, you know, before we got any help and here we were. 858 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.239 We were six of us with like two medical bags, you know, and 859 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.239 like I remember, you know, I'm I'm with these three patients, you 860 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.760 know, and with with Sheldon and Santos Tores, you know, and and 861 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.519 we're working on these and and the other person that was there, since I'm 862 00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.039 naming names, was Sky Shepherd, you know. And and all of a 863 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:23.599 sudden, Adrian gets me on the radio and she's like, Richie, I 864 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.400 need a tourniquet up here. And I look and she's you know, like 865 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.159 I didn't realize she had gone. She was pretty far off. So I 866 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:31.000 go kind of running with my bag, you know, you know. And 867 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:35.559 it was when we had just gotten those those mass casualty bags too, So 868 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.199 we had those bags that just were full of tourniquets and stuff. And and 869 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.480 I remember just running past people in the bushes and I couldn't believe it. 870 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:44.679 I remember, I I swear to God, I kid, you know what 871 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:46.679 I mean, There's someone laying there with their head turned completely around backwards and 872 00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:50.440 stuff like that. I mean, that was the kind of kind of horrific 873 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.599 ship, you know, like and im and then I get to the sky, 874 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.880 you know, and so like in that picture, I'm just starting to 875 00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:59.440 cut his clothes off, thinking that I'm going to expose like a wound where 876 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:00.119 he's you know, because there was a lot of blood. So I just 877 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.880 figured he you know, it was his femaral artery or whatever. And and 878 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.440 I and I and I get it. I get his clothes cut off, 879 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.039 and I see he's he was ripped from his belly to his down past his 880 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.719 crotch, and you know, like his you know, organs were showing and 881 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:17.039 everything. There was the ones you can't unsee, bro. And he was 882 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:20.480 and he was conscious, you know, he was you know, he wasn't 883 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.559 he wasn't like aware, but he was conscious. And his friend, like 884 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.280 you can see like it right behind that cop you can see kind of like 885 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.079 a jacket. He like that was his friend. His friend was like a 886 00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:30.599 hysterics and like uh and you know, and it's like I kind of just 887 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.360 I just packed as much you know, like the multi dressings as I could 888 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.719 into him, and I got I got you know, oxygen onto him, 889 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.760 and and then I I you know, he was breathing on his own, 890 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.280 but then he wasn't breathing adequately. So then I go to open his mouth 891 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:45.519 and I'll never forget because you know that, you know, trying to get 892 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:51.000 his mouth open and like his lips just kept my finger indentations because he was 893 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.320 so uh he had lost so much blood that it just wasn't filling back in 894 00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.360 and stuff. And you know, so we got him, I got the 895 00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:58.920 bag on him and stuff, and he lost consciousness, of course, and 896 00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.440 finally and then Rescue four showed up because they agent managed to get them on 897 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:05.559 the radio. I remember it like Richie Miranda and stuff, you know, 898 00:53:05.679 --> 00:53:09.039 like a world trying to work together. And finally a couple of ambulances show 899 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:14.199 up, and I remember they had I think three patients and and you know, 900 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:15.719 and the paramedics, including the guy that I was working on, in 901 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.840 the back of that bus, and then me and Santos got up front and 902 00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.679 drove it to the hospital. And by the time we got there, uh, 903 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.599 they they had declared him dead. And it just it fucking broke my 904 00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:28.079 heart, you know, like it killed me because I'm like I'm getting a 905 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.239 little choked up right now when you know, but like but like it just 906 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.960 uh, you know, it's just like you feel like you're you're doing what 907 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.559 you can and then when you see somebody you know, go like that. 908 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:42.119 It's just it's such a horrible thing, you know. Yeah, did Tink 909 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:47.159 get recognized on Metal Day? We got the the Thomas al Sasser Medal that 910 00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:51.360 day, you know, for that you know, well deserved. Yeah thanks, 911 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.760 Yeah, yeah, no doubt bro. Yeah, yeah, that fucked 912 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:55.800 me up. That one definitely fucked me up. That one. Deutsche Bank 913 00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.199 obviously fucked me up. You know, I was, I was working for 914 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.440 Deutsche Bank, you know, which is uh, I don't know that was 915 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.920 the building that was I don't see that black flout over your head. You 916 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.800 definitely have one. Yeah, I was at a lot of pretty awful things. 917 00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:12.039 What what happened till us? What happened with you guys at Deutsche Bank? 918 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.480 Well, Deutsche Bank when we got there, so Deutsche Bank for just 919 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:16.800 for people that don't know, it was like when we got the that's the 920 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.199 building that was on the south side of the World Trade Center site that was 921 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:22.679 heavily damaged. At first they were starting to build it back up, and 922 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:24.719 then they decided it was way too contaminated, so then they were taking they 923 00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:29.599 were doing an abatement and and and it was definitely an indication of how screwed 924 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:32.199 up the city and the whole Yeah, screwed up how bad it was, 925 00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:36.719 come to an agreement, and who's going to do and who's going to pay 926 00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.199 for it? So it just linked and then it turned because what was it 927 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.880 six years later, right, I think it was six years eleven, you 928 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.679 know, And and and and uh they we we got the call the you 929 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:49.079 know, the run because they thought it was just a fire on the scaffold 930 00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.639 on the back, scaffolding on the because scaffoldings obviously surrounding that whole building. 931 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.800 And and uh, and so they the only working elevator was the was, 932 00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.000 you know, the the whatever you call it, you know, the construct 933 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.239 elevator on the outside of the building. So we just loaded everybody in, 934 00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:07.199 we go up. It's clearly they thought the fire was on the fifteenth floor, 935 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:08.079 I think it was, if I remember right. And they drop us 936 00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.840 off at the fourteenth and all the stairs we were sealed off for the abatement. 937 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.320 So I remember it was clear as day going in Toto the stairwell and 938 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:20.000 I wound up. I didn't I don't think I put my mask on at 939 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.920 that point, but I was thinking about it only because of this the exhaust 940 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.599 from the saw trying to cut through these uh you know, to access through 941 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.440 the stairway to get to the where we thought we were going to be accessing 942 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.599 the fire. Unbeknownst to us, the fire was burning like crazy. It 943 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:36.599 was just that it was venting out the back or whatever. And and then 944 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.199 so but but there was, you know something else some people may or may 945 00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.079 not know. I know a lot of people do. But like there was 946 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.480 that section of the stampipe that had been removed unbeknownst to the fire department for 947 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:50.000 the construction site to send up the you know, the the hoses for their 948 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.039 for their tools, and so you know there, you know, there's no 949 00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:57.800 water coming and Captain Smith again heads up. Captain Smith, uh, you 950 00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.920 know, he was like, there's something wrong with the stampipe. We should 951 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:01.400 water in this thing. And he's going he goes out, we can't get 952 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:04.920 anyone on the radio. We would go back out to that construction elevator, 953 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.000 step out onto the scaffold and he's like he's yelling down, he's calling on 954 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.840 the radio. He wanted to drop his search rope down to haul up the 955 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:14.159 hose, which is ultimately what they did do. That's how the fire got 956 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.519 put out sadly, that's also how you know, uh, you know, 957 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:22.079 grafting, you know, and and Bobby Badia died. But but but you 958 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.199 know, so anyways, like we're there, we're now we're facing out, 959 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.199 looking down, trying to get the chiefs attention. All of a sudden we 960 00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:31.119 hear media madea made and we turn around and it was like it was like 961 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:34.480 that fast, you know, like it had gone to black. And so 962 00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:37.920 everybody got so lost because they you know, it was clear as day and 963 00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.639 then it was black as night, you know, or blacker than night, 964 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.519 you know, in in that split second. And and there was so many 965 00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.119 it was like a maze because of all the the tunnels and stuff that they 966 00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.199 had built for the you know, like the temporary ducks and stuff like that 967 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.559 for their abatements and stuff. And you know, and and I remember at 968 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.440 that time, so so we knew so because of that, we knew where 969 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:00.679 we were. So we were never lost, you know, because because we 970 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.679 were back at our starting points. So now we did just like regular firefighting 971 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.440 procedures, where you know, we started going along the wall. I remember 972 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.000 seeing Todd Smith tie from Squad one, tying off at the time. It 973 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:15.320 was in squad one, tying off a search rope, and so like I 974 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.280 kind of I started on the wall. Then I kind of did a sweep 975 00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:19.679 in my hand. I feel a search rope, so I was like, 976 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.440 let me go a little more to the middle. And then I remember hearing 977 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.920 like bang bang bang bang bang, and so and like because these guys that 978 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:29.400 were had given the initial may day had you know, found their way down 979 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.360 one of these tunnels with the you know, for the for the tubing, 980 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.760 for like the abatement or whatever, and but it was, you know, 981 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:36.800 they came to a dead end, you know, so I just kind of 982 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:37.840 went to the sound. I let go of the rope and I just went 983 00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.119 to the sound, and we just were tearing plywood and then we're just trying 984 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.280 to open up the wall, trying to get you know, we kept taking 985 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:45.760 our masks on and off because you know, it was just we knew we 986 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:50.320 only had so we knew the only way down was that one elevator and stuff, 987 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.960 and it was, you know, we were probably finding those guys, 988 00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.960 bro do you know, I'm not sure because I was at that point, 989 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.199 I was so overcome with like a CEO and everything else. You know if 990 00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.000 you're taking Yeah, yeah, we were, we were. I mean, 991 00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:09.039 you know, like there's you know, I'm not sure how much I'm supposed 992 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:12.519 to say people's names and stuff like that on this, but like, uh, 993 00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.760 but you know, I always have to praise certain view this. I 994 00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.119 say his name because I love him so much and because he's so good. 995 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:22.159 Yeah, so so. But John Merits, I'm gonna say, you know, 996 00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.840 you know, he like like he was in the end, in the 997 00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:29.079 end when they were bringing out the bodies. You know. So now this 998 00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:31.199 is whatever was an hour and a half into the operation or the operation is 999 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:36.400 still going on. But now Brian, you know, Captain Smith, Brian 1000 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:45.159 Smith, Uh, John Merits and and Greg Wang Uh. They they they 1001 00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:47.880 went to meet as they were bringing them to to this elevator and then they 1002 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.400 get and then they were doing they wound up doing like John Maris doing mouth 1003 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.000 to mouth literal mouth and mouth without you know, without like any kind of 1004 00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:02.480 you know thing, trying the uh yeah and yeah while while while Greg Waan 1005 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.440 was doing compression and stuff like that, and as we all know, I 1006 00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.239 mean, it was to no avail and it broke my It fucked him up, 1007 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.519 you know. It broke my heart to see him out how how and 1008 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:14.320 and John is such a strong person, you know, like, uh, 1009 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:15.920 you know, and you know that, you know, he's still to this 1010 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.800 day one of one of my all time favorite firemen. And uh, you 1011 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.039 know, but he but I always I can never forget that that. I'm 1012 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.400 like, you know, you did that, and like there's very there's like 1013 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.480 almost no one in the world that's done something like that. And even though 1014 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.159 it didn't bring him back, it's no fault of yours. But there was 1015 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:35.239 a period of time in the beginning where he was and and I can remember 1016 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.320 he was so fucked up in his head, you know, at that when 1017 00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.039 we got finally got back to the street, he didn't have his helmet because 1018 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.880 he had taken his helmet off to do mouth and mouth and he's trying to 1019 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.320 go back into the building. We had to like literally like hold him back, 1020 00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:46.480 you know, from going back into the building. But didn't didn't have 1021 00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.480 his mask on, he didn't have anything on anymore. Just like I got 1022 00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.760 to get my helmet, you know, and like uh, like John, 1023 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:52.920 you got you got to take a second, you know, like it just 1024 00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:57.320 you know, it's the stuff, you know, it's just and I tell 1025 00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.079 that story not to really uh you know, cause John's probablynna be mad at 1026 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.599 me for bringing his name up and stuff like that. But but I tell 1027 01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:07.719 it because I want to, because it shows what guys goes to do real 1028 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.039 mouth and mouth. Yeah you know, I mean, yeah, totally, 1029 01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:13.920 but just a good thing in the past and then it went away for a 1030 01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:16.639 good reason. Yeah, yes, difficult, and it leaves them off on 1031 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:20.840 you and just want to take him out out and leave it somewhere when you're 1032 01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:24.480 done, I've done it, what to do with now? It's a great 1033 01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:28.480 justt thing, it really is. Yeah, yeah, so you know, 1034 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.360 it's just it's like the kind of heavy stuff that people don't always realize that 1035 01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:34.039 vironman, you know, go do you never know what people are carrying. 1036 01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.480 So when we when we break each other's balls and we get even, we 1037 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:38.760 get like even sometimes a little too upset with each other, but sometimes we 1038 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.800 forget that the reason that we're being kind of dicks to each other, which 1039 01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.079 because we all know that we could be dicks in the firehouse, you know, 1040 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:51.320 yeah, you know, but I mean except me, but but you 1041 01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.559 know, you know, but you know, it's he sometimes you gotta like 1042 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:59.000 you know, I would always I have. You have to remind yourself sometimes 1043 01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:00.639 what what what's going you know, you don't know what's up in that that 1044 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:06.519 you know pocket off there. You know, it's like, yeah, you 1045 01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:09.440 don't know. We talked about that in the past. We had Gary Sealantani 1046 01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.400 after nine to eleven who break to his balls. He was a heavy guy 1047 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:16.599 who breaks his balls, like you said, beat dicks. But when he 1048 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:19.679 was leaving to get off work, he was like, Hey, I'm coming 1049 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.480 in. What do you want me to bring in? And then I'll pick 1050 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:24.599 up the meal, went home and fucking killed himself, shot himself on the 1051 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:28.920 couch. You have no idea what's in somebody's head, bro, none. 1052 01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.760 Yeah, for sure that to think about what you know, I've known a 1053 01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.239 few guys on the job out of the committed suitor, and you say, 1054 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:42.000 what made them be so alone that that was the option? Yeah, And 1055 01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:45.440 if somebody guys would would not let you be alone, if they knew that 1056 01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:50.199 a bad place. It's really sad. You know. We just did the 1057 01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.760 Macy's final last week and you know they were talking about the same thing. 1058 01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:58.360 The chief J. Jones was saying that the conditions changed so rapidly reminds me 1059 01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:00.119 of that what you were saying, clear as a bell, right, and 1060 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.800 then all of a sudden it was lights out. Well you know, I 1061 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:08.880 mean the commonality is that there was no fire protection systems. Yeah, you 1062 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:13.199 know, like this building was probably sprinkled at one point that was inoperative, 1063 01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.639 and the standpipe they tried to stamppipe and brank and it was just fill in 1064 01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:22.039 the basement. Right. Yeah, I don't know who actually put that fire 1065 01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.679 out. I don't Uh, I don't have to go and ask a few 1066 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:30.119 guys, you know who eventually went And yeah, I know that you know, 1067 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:31.079 twenty four engine was on the line, that's what you know. But 1068 01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:34.519 they you know, sadly that's where they lost their lives, you know. 1069 01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:38.719 But but I don't know who ultimately did. No. Mmm, you get 1070 01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:42.360 a lot of wild stuff in that, and bro, every time I worked 1071 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:45.519 the details about the team, like crazy crazy stuff. I mean like when 1072 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:49.519 they when the crane remember the crane collapse on that brownstone and you know, 1073 01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:53.159 yeah you know that was that was we were on an E. M. 1074 01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:58.000 S run you know that in the in the past station for just a drunk 1075 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.480 you know, and like uh, and then Christa Benedetto was was the show 1076 01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:04.440 for that day, and I remember he's like trying to get us on the 1077 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.559 radio. He like ran halfway down and he's like saying, He's like, 1078 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.480 there's a crane collapsing. You know, we're like what It was like one 1079 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.960 of the only times in Manhattan. We were blessed in Manhattan that the ambulances 1080 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.159 were usually right behind us. It was one of the only times we felt 1081 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:19.480 like we were waiting for six days for this ambulance to arrive. And finally 1082 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.599 two eighty eight went to that crank collapse and we got a really good piece 1083 01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:28.719 of this job. Uh. I don't know if I had some crane. 1084 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:30.239 We had discussions on crane and then I saved some, so I didn't know 1085 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:34.320 if this was it. I just wanted to share right in the middle. 1086 01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:38.599 I don't know what company that looks that might be. It's kind of hard 1087 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:43.280 to tell, but anyway you get but like we get there and like they 1088 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:46.280 were bringing one guy who I believe was actually the crane opper, so you 1089 01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:49.599 know, the crane was I think it was like twenty stories up and it 1090 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.559 fell and where that got big piece of it like landed was we removed the 1091 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:58.559 crane outlat and we're seeing, man, this guy wrote this from up there 1092 01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:02.199 and survived, right, different different brain flats. Yeah, yeah, there 1093 01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:05.039 was there was There was one that was up on like in like the nineties. 1094 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.400 This was in the fifties that this one happened, like maybe like a 1095 01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.440 half a year or they were close together when these happened. One was right 1096 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.960 around Saint Patrick's. That was the one that twisted. Yeah, I can't 1097 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:17.599 I can't remember if it's the same one or not. But but but they 1098 01:04:17.800 --> 01:04:21.320 but they you know, we're walking up now, finally getting there. You 1099 01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.599 know, it turned out we wound up getting a huge piece of this operation. 1100 01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:26.519 We were there for for hours, you know, because there was a 1101 01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:29.760 guy that was trapped in the you know, in like a void in the 1102 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.199 in the collas, because the entire brownstone was there wasn't it was. There 1103 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:38.599 was not a recognizable wall, like the whole thing was completely crumbled. And 1104 01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:41.920 you know, and I remember, look, you know there's a fire escape 1105 01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:44.559 on the building next door that was twisted like a like a toy, you 1106 01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:46.239 know, and like the the brick walls like boat out on that thing and 1107 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:49.239 stuff like that, and we're like working right under this thing. But uh, 1108 01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.639 but there was a guy that was alive and he was like they were 1109 01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:54.679 they were talking to We couldn't find him, you couldn't see him. They 1110 01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:56.880 were sitting in the search cameras. One of the only times you know that 1111 01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.840 we really like you know, used the search cameras, you know, for 1112 01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:04.280 what its intent was, you know, and and they and and ultimately got 1113 01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:08.000 this guy out amazingly, you know, like and he survived. There was 1114 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.679 I think I forget it was seven people that died in that building or something, 1115 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:14.320 but uh, but the uh but when we get there, you know, 1116 01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.679 they they're bringing out a guy in a Stokes basket and just happened there. 1117 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:18.320 You know, they're kind of struggling off the pile. So I just 1118 01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.880 kind of grabbed hold of it and I helped walk him out to this to 1119 01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.719 the ambulance. And you know, I didn't even realize if someone got a 1120 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:28.400 picture and and that and that picture around up on the cover of the Metal 1121 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.559 Day Book that year. You know, I didn't get a medal or nothing 1122 01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:31.800 like that. I think we probably got a unit or whatever, but like, 1123 01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.880 uh, but they they so anyways, that that same year, Uh. 1124 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:42.000 You know Chris Body from our place had gotten the uh uh the huban 1125 01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:44.840 or metal. You know he he for for another thing that I was working 1126 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.199 out with him, where like a rope rescue on uh when they were building 1127 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.239 the Trump Tower and soho and like uh it was like the I think it 1128 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:55.039 was like the fortieth floor, like the collapse. It like fell down and 1129 01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:59.199 dumped all the wet cement and to two guys and one guy fell all the 1130 01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.280 way down to the the street, but one guy landed in the uh that 1131 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:04.800 kind of like safety netting, you know, about four stories below where it 1132 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:09.320 dumped and uh and you know went up that I you know, I was 1133 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.960 able to be you know, the one in position to kind of set up 1134 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.800 the ropes and Body. You know, I used two ropes because he's you 1135 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.400 know, pretty heavy. But uh now I'm just kidding. Sorry, But 1136 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.599 anyways, you know he went in and uh and so he got a metal 1137 01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.519 that you know, he got one of the top medals that year. But 1138 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:26.000 I used to always say it. I was like, look, you might 1139 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.320 have got mettal, but nobody remembers the metals. But this this picture is 1140 01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.039 going to be sitting in the bathrooms of firehouse. That's right, bro, 1141 01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:36.360 And I'm on the cover. I am not you. People are gonna be 1142 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:41.519 looking at you. They're gonna be looking at me. Mister Pelly's system body. 1143 01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.639 Yeah. What about this picture in the bathroom? Ah, one of 1144 01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.159 my favorite days to work. Yeah, I kind of, uh, you 1145 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.320 know, I kind of fucked up there because I put my arm around him 1146 01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:57.199 and I didn't realize how covered in oil he was, you know, but 1147 01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:02.840 I was kind of on the side of his yam big like afterwards that was 1148 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:10.079 back. Did you guys have what's his name of living right next audio? 1149 01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:14.280 Yeah, he's just suling right. Yeah. Yeah, for about I think 1150 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.119 like four years or something like that, he would come in. Yeah, 1151 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:20.440 totally. He was not not always, you know, but he was definitely 1152 01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.320 you know, when he got when he got to that upper limit, he 1153 01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:26.559 was it was like he was playing a drunk in a movie. He was 1154 01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.360 just you know, you know, kind of you know, almost like one 1155 01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:30.599 of those you know things on the side of the road, you know whatever. 1156 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.119 Yeah, but he was really cool. You know, he was just 1157 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.079 like he was a real like you know, just he loved us, you 1158 01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:39.639 know, so like you know, the guy a lot of the guys I 1159 01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:42.440 had like young baby My kids were babies at the time and stuff, so 1160 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.360 like I I would at that point, I wasn't going out as much as 1161 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:46.559 I used to. But uh, but these guys you know in the house, 1162 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:48.599 they used to go out with them all the time, drinking and stuff. 1163 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:54.679 You know really yeah, school. You know, we had a lot 1164 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:56.840 you know again squatty tea and there was all the celebrities. You know, 1165 01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.599 we had Brookshields down the street. You know, like uh, she's she 1166 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.880 Uh she sent those bagels one time and the uh in the bagel place, 1167 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:06.280 uh gave the receipt they they had written her whole credit card number on and 1168 01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:09.320 something like that. So you know, we tore it up. Of course, 1169 01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:13.199 we were like credit card here. You know, it's like but uh 1170 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:16.760 and you know, you know Sarah Jessica par Uh. We also have like 1171 01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.800 a a daycare or like a kind of like a preschool. I guess you 1172 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:25.399 will call it uhhouse. Yeah and uh, and there was a lot of 1173 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:28.039 you know, like Daniel day Little I forget if you had this kid there, 1174 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.479 but but like Peter DINKLDD, you know, the you know, the 1175 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.279 the guy from uh from Game of Thrones, yeah, yeah, you know, 1176 01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:38.119 and like his like he had his daughter there and stuff like that. 1177 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.840 And I actually, like I never would ask for autographs or anything like that, 1178 01:08:40.920 --> 01:08:42.399 but I always got to thrill out of it. I would. I 1179 01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:44.880 would collect handshakes and hey, you mind if I shake your hand? You 1180 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.439 know, but uh, there's it's cool, you know. So a lot 1181 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.079 of celebrities and I got starstruck every time, you know, yeah, a 1182 01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.760 lot of them down there. Who I saw Christopher walking down there one time. 1183 01:08:55.199 --> 01:09:00.319 The squatty team, we're looking, we're looking. Du yeah, so 1184 01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:02.840 you give us another odd fire he caught over there, and oh man, 1185 01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:08.279 let me think. You know, there's speaking of people running over people on 1186 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:11.239 purpose. You know. There was the guy in Times Square that uh kind 1187 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.840 of like I think only one person died, but he remember you remember you 1188 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:15.880 like kind of right right in Times Square. He rode up wrote up the 1189 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:17.560 sidewalk and just started plowing people over and he just and then he hit one 1190 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.600 of those like stanchions and the car went up. Whatever. But uh, 1191 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:23.840 we didn't really do much of that, you know, but that was but 1192 01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:27.680 we think, what are some because there's a lot of crazy fires over there. 1193 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:29.800 Man, Yeah, we did all kinds. I mean, there was 1194 01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:31.840 you know, I mean with speaking of one of your former guests, John 1195 01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:35.159 Esposito, one of my all time favorites. You know, I remember when 1196 01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:40.039 he was already not he was already promoted to captain at that point, because 1197 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:42.039 he was my lieutenant when I first got there, you know, and then 1198 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:47.279 he was covering as a captain and we got the uh this uh Essex Street 1199 01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:51.720 was Essex Street fire where like uh where it was just one of those Uh 1200 01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:55.840 it's another cool picture I should have sent to you, but there's a there's 1201 01:09:55.880 --> 01:09:58.159 a shot. People don't believe me, but it really is me. But 1202 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.920 it's like, uh, it's I the roof, so I'm on my way 1203 01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:01.880 up to the roof. It was I think it was a five story building 1204 01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.680 and and what it was was that there was the fire was here in this 1205 01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:12.479 built in this store and then go and like Endsman and Nikki Google Almo and 1206 01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:15.039 uh Guglielma. I just recently I've been calling him the wrong name for my 1207 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.640 entire time of twenty years I've known him or whatever. But anyways, Howie 1208 01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.359 Scott, it was a great crew, you know. And uh and and 1209 01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:26.640 so they're they're in the store the adjoining store doing a search. So they're 1210 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:30.119 making their way in. Unbeknownst to them, the uh the two stores were 1211 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:33.000 attached like a you in the back. So the engine opened up the hose 1212 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.279 and the fire store, but it pushed it all around back, so all 1213 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.199 of a sudden, they were they were getting backed out like you know, 1214 01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:42.359 you know fire, you know, like practically on fire. But meanwhile, 1215 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.760 I was climbing the area at that point, and all of a sudden, 1216 01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:46.159 you know, talk about going from clear to black, you know, I 1217 01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:47.920 was, you know, I was, I felt like I was in a 1218 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.039 hallway and I'm like I was, you know, I was like, I 1219 01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:53.399 tried to put my mask on it, and you know, I'm terrified I'm 1220 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:56.439 going to drop a halligan on someone's head or something. So I just I 1221 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:01.399 just climbed as fast as I cheetah. Yeah, right, right, Allegedly 1222 01:11:01.520 --> 01:11:05.800 you had those. I got admit. I never had a cheating myself, 1223 01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.960 but but the but the you know, then I got to the roof and 1224 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:12.399 I just I put that thing on and it was like drinking ice water, 1225 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.840 getting that fresh. He's got a reach for one right there. I never 1226 01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:20.439 had one of them. Yeah, you're you're a different era than I am. 1227 01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:24.039 You know, you had a whole lot I got. I got on 1228 01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:30.279 the job twenty years before you got what I will do you in nineteen eighty 1229 01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:35.479 one eleven. I was born in seventy. You know, I tried to 1230 01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:40.119 cheat it once, bro, Like I remember Petie Brennan was getting up everybody 1231 01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.720 at the firehouse. So we get a job in the projects and I can't 1232 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:46.800 figure this, damn And you know that shitty smoke in the projects too and 1233 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:51.520 hot. Yeah, I'm in the I'm I'm in the hallway trying to figure 1234 01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:56.520 this thing out, coughing my brains out because it's just it's not working for 1235 01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.680 me. And what what happened? As soon as I'm sitting there coughing rescue 1236 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.159 for walks by with Timmy Kelly, and He's like, you're right, son, 1237 01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:10.520 you're gonna make it another I used to call him the Prince among lieutenants, 1238 01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:14.359 that guy, and I used to love him. Yeah, he's a 1239 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.439 great guy because he was at four right, Yeah, yeah he was when 1240 01:12:16.479 --> 01:12:18.520 I when I was when I got there, it was him. It was 1241 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:24.119 uh Sullivan. Yeah. I can't of a sudden, I can't think it 1242 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:28.800 was for Timmy timson, Tim saw anyways, not not not you know, 1243 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.319 yeah, yeah, yeah, so and then of course Kevin dal Dell, 1244 01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.199 you know, sadly, you know, and and you know, and then 1245 01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:42.840 and and Captain Oh my god, my brain is just one plank from father 1246 01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:45.640 who died on nine to eleven. I'm just I apologize to the world for 1247 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:57.840 forgetting he was twenty six. I had a great fun horrible happened. I 1248 01:12:57.960 --> 01:13:01.199 know the job that the son's uh yeah, well but anyways, you know, 1249 01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.680 so like it was a great it was just a great you know crew, 1250 01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:10.159 you know, like you know, Kevin Dowdell, Yes, give me, 1251 01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:12.720 forgive me for that, because you know, I had so much aperration 1252 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.760 for that man. You know, you know, I never worked with him 1253 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:17.199 because he was still out for because I mean, if people don't know, 1254 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:20.439 like his story was, he was out from the Father's Day Buyer, you 1255 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.600 know, on medical leave, and he came back and it was his first 1256 01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.600 his first twenty four back was nine to eleven, and uh, you know, 1257 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:29.520 I guess it was the end of his twenty four he was working and 1258 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.279 I think he was working in Rescue three. He was working Rescue three. 1259 01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:36.239 Yeah, yeah, So many guys. Uh, it was like they just 1260 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:40.479 came back from medically even nine to eleven. You know, Edie Brennan. 1261 01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:45.319 Brennon came back early. He just got on vacation. He wasn't due back 1262 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.399 yet, and he worked for somebody. He picked up a tour for somebody 1263 01:13:47.479 --> 01:13:50.800 off his vacation. But Pe Brendan you probably remember from the Father's Day fight, 1264 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.880 because he was a big helping Rescue four out back and forth shuttling people. 1265 01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:59.560 That was kind of his ticket to Rescue four. Yeah, and when 1266 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:00.720 I got there, because he was he wasn't the sign he was on the 1267 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:03.560 onion skin, but he was. He was in rescue, So I I 1268 01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:05.800 you know, I did get to you know, meet him a handful of 1269 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.079 times. Anyways, and then his first tour back, it wasn't even like 1270 01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:12.560 I said, wasn't he his talk came back vacation, picked up the tool 1271 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.159 or he worked all the time. Forget what it was he wasn't doing. 1272 01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:17.199 He worked over times what I thought. Someone said the rescue three, right, 1273 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:23.000 he was working Rescue three yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, 1274 01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.880 yeah, that's a crazy place. Let's let's talk about our friend Mike 1275 01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:31.560 Nolman. How was he as a mental or in the flyhouse, Mike was 1276 01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:34.520 the best. So Mike had a thing where he you know, he was 1277 01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:38.479 crazy for Krispy Kreme donuts. I don't know if he still is, but 1278 01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:43.239 man, at the time he sure was. Gonzo's wearing his talking about sorry, 1279 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:47.079 I gotta be keep but he he Uh. And I remember one time 1280 01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:50.640 another guy had brought in popums. You remember those They were like tasty cake 1281 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:55.199 like yeah, so and I remember I'm doing the kitchen, the engine had 1282 01:14:55.239 --> 01:14:58.279 the kitchen, you know, the rescue of the upstairs and uh, you 1283 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.079 know, for the for the for the committee, work for the c you 1284 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:01.279 know, you know, and uh and I remember I was like, I 1285 01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:04.159 thought it would be so funny to do this. Like I took the popums 1286 01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:08.079 and I just filled them all around the Krispy Kreme donuts, you know, 1287 01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:10.800 and I closed that box off and I didn't think anything else of it. 1288 01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:14.039 Like, man, he got on that that you know, radio, and 1289 01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:15.399 he was screaming. He wanted to know who it was. You know, 1290 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.960 now he knows, you know, but like like I was like, man, 1291 01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:25.039 I know, don't mess with that man's donuts. You know what you 1292 01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:32.399 know, you have to Yeah, I mean there was Remember I'm just a 1293 01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.279 probe. At the time, I was like, you know, you know, 1294 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.880 terrified, you know, not terrified, you know what I'm saying. 1295 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:40.560 Like I was just I was still trying to be a good uh you know. 1296 01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:44.960 It was only later that I became a ball breaker trying to be a 1297 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.199 good a good worst thing you can do is tell him something that bothers you, 1298 01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:55.479 right right. I had the lock up right outside the bathroom, and 1299 01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.279 I had one of those fucking things that you throw your dirty wash in the 1300 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:02.880 little net things. Yeah, so guys just fucking around from tissues and shipped 1301 01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:08.039 in the fucking hamper and I made the mistakes answer next one of you fucking 1302 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:12.159 assholes that throw something in there and smack the ship. Yeah, back, 1303 01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:17.159 dude, there was like guys wiping their ass and throwing and fucking every day. 1304 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:20.399 You can imagine in that fucking hamper. I had to throw it away. 1305 01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:26.319 I like, get the my mouth. You do better too, and 1306 01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:29.439 you sweat as soon as it came out of Like that was fucking the wrol 1307 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:33.479 thing to do. Man. That was so stupid, Karen, I'm not 1308 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:40.720 talking about Mike. What was it? Well, I wish you happy birthday 1309 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:45.479 already. Fuck big, you missed it. I'm not doing it again. 1310 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:48.840 There's another time. But you know, back back in the days before we 1311 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:51.319 all had our cell phones in our pockets, and bucketing was you know, 1312 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:55.880 you know, it's like a professional sport, you know whatever. You know. 1313 01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:58.880 So again again, I don't know who, you know, how much 1314 01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.359 of your listenership was everything, So I'll just say bucketing was, you know, 1315 01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:03.520 it was back when you know, there would always be someone hiding on 1316 01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:06.439 the roof for a window with a fifth five gallon bucket full of water, 1317 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.520 just waiting for someone unsuspecting to stand in front of the fire as so they 1318 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.119 could get you know, the water dumped on them and and so like, 1319 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.720 uh I remember, you know again, I was not fucking with the guys 1320 01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:18.239 from Rescue four as best as I could, you know, because I was, 1321 01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:20.439 you know, looking up to them, and I was young and everything. 1322 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:23.600 But man, there's the guys in the engine. They were out on 1323 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.239 a roun. They're like, listen, listen, come on up to the 1324 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:27.119 third floor. We're gonna bucket them. When they come back in. I 1325 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.279 was like, no way, I'm I'm not there. So now they're on 1326 01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:30.239 like the intercom. You know, they're up there like, nah, if 1327 01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.000 you push, come on, I get up here, you know. So 1328 01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:34.239 I was like, man, So I go up there and I you know, 1329 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:39.079 and I'm like listen, I said, I'm not doing it. You 1330 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:41.000 guys are nuts, you know, and whatever. And then and then all 1331 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.119 of a sudden, I find so there's two guys, are two windows, 1332 01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:45.680 and they both just as Rescue four is backing in and the guys are stopping 1333 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.760 traffic and stuff. So they're on the sidewalk there and I'm wide and I'm 1334 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:51.479 looking out and then I back away and then I see the guys are just 1335 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.239 like I can't do it. I can't do it, and they back away. 1336 01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:55.960 I was like, give me that fucking bucket. I go over and 1337 01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.680 I just dumped it. You know. I kind of where I guessed that 1338 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:00.359 I was actually dotell Billy Murph this, but I was I was actually aiming 1339 01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.479 for Billy Murphy. But I do it, and who do I hit but 1340 01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:14.119 Lieutenant Larry Archer. And but these guys he was wrestler. Yeah, oh 1341 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:15.279 my got he well he came after it. So, like, so what 1342 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.560 happened was I wound up TV right for the pole hoole, I went, 1343 01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:21.479 because we're on the third force, I'm zip down to the second floor, 1344 01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.840 szip down to the first far and I'm on the other side of the fire, 1345 01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:27.399 and I run into the house watch. So now all they need to 1346 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:29.600 think is that I've been in the house watch the whole time. And now 1347 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:31.560 these other two guys that are up there, you know, Larry Archer is 1348 01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:34.760 just he's he's trying to like it's like he wanted to torture a confession out 1349 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.079 of him and stuff, you know, so he's like fighting, like these 1350 01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:40.640 guys are freaking out, and they keep coming to like Richie, you gotta 1351 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:42.680 you gotta tell him was you? You gotta tell him was you? Because 1352 01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.840 we were all young in the house at that time, you know, in 1353 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:46.199 the engine, you know, you know, except for the few, you 1354 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.039 know, senior guys or whatever. But like so finally, you know, 1355 01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:51.119 after like you know, he was pissed, you know, and he's like 1356 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:55.039 he's going after these guys. And finally I waited until I calmed down a 1357 01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.600 little, and I go up to I said, I said, little, 1358 01:18:57.600 --> 01:18:59.479 I said, I gotta, I gotta tell you something. I said. 1359 01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:01.840 It wasn't on purpose, but it was me. I'm the one that dumped 1360 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:04.239 the bucket. He's like you and the next thing you know, he comes 1361 01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:08.359 charging at me and like, you know, you wouldn't know this, but 1362 01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:10.840 I actually was, you know, a little bit scrappy in my day, 1363 01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:12.720 you know, so like he couldn't get me down, you know, and 1364 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:14.680 he's like and he's like trying to fight me, and you know, I 1365 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:16.319 was kind of proud because he couldn't. You couldn't get me down and stuff. 1366 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:18.960 And then he and finally afterwards he passed me on the back. He's 1367 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:21.760 like, you know what you got. You got nice guy strength, That's 1368 01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:29.640 what you got. Nice straight. That's funny. Bucketing, dude. Bucketing 1369 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:32.720 is a profession, bro. It was the work of art. It was 1370 01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:38.479 how the story was before. When I was in the once his teen truck, 1371 01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:41.399 they were they had it out for this guy in the engine. I 1372 01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:44.039 forget what his name was, bro. He was on that rotation. You 1373 01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:47.600 know, he fuck like fish all the time. Ducky, ducky from which 1374 01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:54.880 one sixteen. So they say ducky outside phone, you know the phones in 1375 01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.520 the pole hall. He goes in the fucking pole hall and they banned him. 1376 01:19:58.640 --> 01:20:00.960 Right. He comes out of a pole hoole, slips on the wet 1377 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:06.359 floor and breaks his ankle on the breaks. I gotta call the MS comes 1378 01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:10.359 in, They split them up. They put him on the gurney. As 1379 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:14.199 they're pulling him out the front doors of the firehouse, they throw a bucket 1380 01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:25.760 of water over about. That's rough. Yeah, the kid breaks his ankle 1381 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:30.960 and then on the way out they bucket him. If you got fucking with 1382 01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:35.479 dirty mop water. I remember a guy telling me a story. Bucketed the 1383 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:40.800 guy and had a dead pigeon on his shoulder. There's because it was such 1384 01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:45.680 an old thig of water that there was a dead pigeon in it. What's 1385 01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:48.159 talking about, Milder? It might be our way to segue into your musical 1386 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:51.600 career. Bro, we have seeing that It'snica, you want to play it. 1387 01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:55.119 You want to play it live for us. So you want to if 1388 01:20:55.119 --> 01:20:58.600 you got got a guitars, you know now now that put him on the 1389 01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:08.279 spot, Jewish, The guitar was really not that far away. You want 1390 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:13.000 me, what's the what's the name of this little diddy? Merry Jewish Christmas, 1391 01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:18.479 Marry Jewish Christmas, Marry Jewish Christmas. Christmas for you Michael m hm 1392 01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:36.319 H. I'm a Jew and I love Christmas too. I don't care about 1393 01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:42.520 none of that churchy stuff, but up the Christmas cheer. I can't get 1394 01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:48.880 enough my Christmas wishes for peace to about and for love to spend the world 1395 01:21:49.159 --> 01:22:03.359 around. I'm a Jew and I I love Christmas too. I love the 1396 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:13.079 smell of my Christmas tree and seeing presents from my family. My Christmas will 1397 01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.800 says, everyone gets along, and I see it here a stranger singing my 1398 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:30.760 song something like that. I'm a Jew and I love Christmas too. I'm 1399 01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:36.000 a Jew who loves a Christmas Ham. If that ain't kosher, I don't 1400 01:22:36.119 --> 01:22:44.600 give a damn. I love Christmas Ganerize City, and I also love my 1401 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:59.960 finely. I'm a Jew and I love Christmas too. I don't care about 1402 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:04.279 out none of that church stuff, but of the Christmas cheer I can get 1403 01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:12.560 and my Christmas wishes for peace to abound and for love to spend the world 1404 01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:31.840 around. There you go, oh, there you go, Merry Christmas. 1405 01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:39.279 That's a don't you have another one? You have another funny one? Give 1406 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:44.840 me a This one's got a good advice. That's call too Happy Blues. 1407 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:50.479 Too Happy Blues. I've smiled so much my faith works. I'm gonna seen 1408 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:56.359 this all Lite, Oh about you, We'll find a way to incorporate and 1409 01:23:56.399 --> 01:24:06.359 something later do we can we do that? Bro myself a living. I 1410 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:11.760 got the Two Happy Blues and I'm bouncing in my shoes. I don't want 1411 01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:15.800 to hear the news and have it fucking up my mood because dude, I 1412 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.319 don't know how I'm supposed to live my life. Should I want to live 1413 01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:25.039 alone or have three children and a wife? The news gets me feeling unncessary 1414 01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:30.680 strife, while the Two Happy Blues has got simple advice. Go and slice 1415 01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:35.840 the world wide where out of your life and stop focusing on on necessary stride. 1416 01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:41.039 When your laughter isn't fake, you may get a belly e and your 1417 01:24:41.119 --> 01:24:45.279 cheeks may hurt from smiling from the joys you are compiling. It's all the 1418 01:24:45.439 --> 01:24:50.000 side effect of turning off the fucking news that only starts to fuck up everyonets 1419 01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:59.479 to have baby blues. So go ahead and turn it off the fucking news 1420 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:09.039 and find your way to suffering your own too happy Bay blues one more time. 1421 01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.640 I've got the too Happy Blues and I'm bouncing in my shoes. I 1422 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.920 don't want to hear the news and have it fucking up my mood because dude, 1423 01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:21.680 I don't know how I'm supposed to live my life. Should have wanted 1424 01:25:21.720 --> 01:25:26.960 to live alone or have three children and a wife. The news gets me 1425 01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:32.640 feeling unnecessary strife, while the too happy Blues has got simple advice. Go 1426 01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:39.920 and slice the world Wide Web out of your life and try focusing on unnecessary 1427 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:44.319 strife. When your laughter isn't fake, you may get a belly eight and 1428 01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:47.680 your cheeks may hurt from smiling from the joys you are compiling. It's all 1429 01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:53.680 the side effect of turning off the fucking news that only starts to fuck up 1430 01:25:53.760 --> 01:26:00.439 everyone's too happy, baby Blue. So go ahead it and turn it off 1431 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:23.199 the fucking news and find your way to suffering your own to baby awesome ship. 1432 01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:27.880 Bro, I told you this day it was a renaissance. Many make 1433 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.119 a plug. You know. I've been, uh I love this guy, 1434 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:34.640 uh I I've been. I started putting out these albums, you know, 1435 01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:40.840 because it's kind of you can yeah yeah, So so if you look up 1436 01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:44.239 my name on like all these uh you know, streamings for Spotify or whatever, 1437 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:45.720 you know, Richard Navi ask you can find. I got four of 1438 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.800 them out so far. I call my bare bones albums. They're like, 1439 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:53.159 yeah, so you know too, Happy Blues is on one of them. 1440 01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:56.520 That Merry Jewish Christmas hasn't made it yet, but I'm gonna do not put 1441 01:26:56.600 --> 01:27:01.680 Marry Jewish the irons hot man I got. I'm planning on doing about ten 1442 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.079 of these volumes because I got writing these songs for for a while now, 1443 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:09.119 So I got I got a pretty big stock bile of them. I'm gonna 1444 01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:12.000 learn how to play the guitar. Where do you learn how to? I 1445 01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:15.640 never did learn. I just I just didn't know how to do it long 1446 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:17.359 enough that I've gotten pretty good at it, you know. But I really 1447 01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:21.439 just I really just have been fucking around all my life and never really you 1448 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:25.920 know, really ever since I especially retired, as I've I've been putting a 1449 01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.880 lot more time into it, and so it's just, you know, yeah, 1450 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.640 I've been getting better. And out here out here in Fort Collins, 1451 01:27:30.720 --> 01:27:33.439 I go to these open mics, which has been tremendous for me. So 1452 01:27:33.760 --> 01:27:38.600 there's this place called the Lyric, which is like it's like a movie theater. 1453 01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.279 It's like a kind of like an independent like a kind of hip movie 1454 01:27:41.319 --> 01:27:44.119 theater, but they do an open mic and we got this whole community there 1455 01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.640 now and stuff in this other place called the Fox. Then it's a coffee 1456 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:48.600 shop, I do, you know. So it's a lot of fun, 1457 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:53.399 you know, we all real talented people, real supportive of each other and 1458 01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:56.960 stuff. It aspires you to get better, you know. So so Mike 1459 01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.920 mill No, one of your biggest fans says that you're a cartoonist. Also, 1460 01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.560 it does have some crazy cartoons. I mean these are all stuff I 1461 01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:08.960 just I would draw from my kids lunches, and like if you go back 1462 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:12.000 in time, not that far like they're they're awful, Like he can't even 1463 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.479 tell what they are. But I just daughter for so long that I've gotten 1464 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:18.720 better at it, you know, so yeah, bro give me some more. 1465 01:28:18.920 --> 01:28:23.000 We got a couple of them though, Yeah, there's so if you 1466 01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:27.119 want to see like thousands of them, they're on Instagram, dot Com, 1467 01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:30.479 backslash. It's a lunch bag. Treasure is all one word you should write 1468 01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.880 to send you kids lunch bags. Well, I would, I would I 1469 01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:45.319 do them little like a little just what's that kiss? What clock? You 1470 01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:49.880 don't recognize? Lips when you see them. I picked it right up. 1471 01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:59.680 But I don't freaking okay, that's oh. I got three daughters. I 1472 01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:01.000 know that's about. Oh, I know it's right, tell me about it. 1473 01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:10.680 Wow, you got some time on your hands there, bro, I 1474 01:29:10.760 --> 01:29:14.279 gotta start taking some more time. Although I amn't going to hire you now 1475 01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:16.640 because I am I want to. I want to write another song about somebody. 1476 01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:21.159 Okay, I already have the soul on which one it is. You 1477 01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:33.000 just have to you know, Tim's tow truck. Nice good job. Than 1478 01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:35.239 I forgot to tell you about the old school tip of the day. Do 1479 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:39.920 you have an old school tip of the day? Who me? Yeah? 1480 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:43.479 Do I have a tip? Yeah? Not yeah not yeah. Wait. 1481 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.000 It's gotta be something to take it out of the books. Gotta be something 1482 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:48.960 that you can pass along to the something that you got from good time to 1483 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:53.279 it tween. You know, I got a good one. It's actually from 1484 01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:55.520 my day from when I was in my fourteen week hoss, Like I was 1485 01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.840 in the avenue you watched dogs to fifty four and fifty three and I got 1486 01:29:58.920 --> 01:30:01.119 there and uh and I remember like a hold on, let us set you 1487 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:03.800 up and get hey, hey, god, do you know what time it 1488 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:09.840 is? You're muted? I was. I didn't want to laugh, but 1489 01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.800 there we go, Yes, what time is it? It's time for it 1490 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:18.039 is time for Here we go hit it up the old school tip of the 1491 01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:26.279 day. They all right, take it away, brother. Well hi, 1492 01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:29.520 my name is Richard Navy. Asked you tip of the day. So when 1493 01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:31.720 I was at my very first you know, there's that fourteen week host and 1494 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.800 I remember this one guy was breaking my chops. He's like, rich you're 1495 01:30:34.840 --> 01:30:38.600 not doing anything the guys you're talking and I was like what. I was 1496 01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:41.159 like, I'm doing I'm doing everything I possibly can. What do you you 1497 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:42.800 know? And now I'm like, now in my head, I'm like, 1498 01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:44.880 what can I do more? What am I doing wrong? You know, 1499 01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:47.359 as we all know, there's guys in every firehouse. I like to try 1500 01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:50.039 to break other people down to make themselves feel better, and that's what that 1501 01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:54.439 was a case of. But but I remember going up to my another guy 1502 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:56.920 that I kind of gotten friendly with there and I said, I said, 1503 01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.159 hey, you think there's you know I'm doing anything wrong or whatever? Think 1504 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:00.880 He says to me. He's like, listen, the rich let me tell 1505 01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:04.479 you something goes no matter what you're doing this job. It doesn't matter what 1506 01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:10.319 it is, someone's not going to be happy about it. I was true. 1507 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.560 I used that line so many times in my career after that because it 1508 01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:15.960 was just it was to me, it was absolute wisdom. You know, 1509 01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:18.760 you're right, there's always that guy who's got to try to break you down 1510 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:21.399 because he's probably should be. You know, he's got to bring you down 1511 01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:26.880 a couple always. Oh man, I enjoyed this show, Rich, I'm 1512 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:30.840 Mike uh put us on the U in touch. Yeah, but we have 1513 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.319 to do one more commercial count I believe right one. I didn't even find 1514 01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.880 one in here. You run it while I look for him. All right, 1515 01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:45.039 here we go. H it's oh, I don't know what's going on, 1516 01:31:45.199 --> 01:32:14.960 gentlemen. Okay, I got one here. So the old school health 1517 01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.039 and safety tip is, did you know all fifty states, the District of 1518 01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:25.199 Columbia, and federal firefighters all have some type of presumptive cancer legislation? However, 1519 01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:30.680 the coverage varies greatly. Visit first Respondercenter dot org to download your free 1520 01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:39.800 guide and see how your state measures up there. You got to know the 1521 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:45.119 presumptive laws and where you where you work to protect yourself and the plan accordingly. 1522 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:49.239 It's really an important information. Yep, yeah, they actually we have 1523 01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:53.520 it down here. You have to it's it's quite lightly. But the short 1524 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.359 version, after retire, you're covered for several years. I mean you gonna 1525 01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.000 stay with the department's insurance. Like for me, if I where I retire, 1526 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:02.039 I have to say my departments for five years in order to be included 1527 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:05.600 in net clothes. Ah, you have the I said, we're gonna throw 1528 01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:10.279 up the PD. PD that produces thing too. Bro. So it's breakfast 1529 01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:14.800 and bullets, Grand Opening Celebration, Good guys and guns Ammal Long Island, 1530 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.319 one fifteen A Jericho Turnpike. Is that there? You're right, Huntington, 1531 01:33:17.399 --> 01:33:21.760 New York. What do you make the white? Oh? Nine A on 1532 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:30.760 this this Saturday twelve nine, nine am to eleven a m. Breakfast opening 1533 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:34.680 celebration. Check it out. You get some fruit loops. I can see, 1534 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:39.239 Yeah, I can. I'm on Keto right now. Can you believe 1535 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:43.880 it? I can't? Oh really? Yeah sucks. So anyway, let 1536 01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:45.640 me see how this looks. Yeah. I tried to get it bigger, 1537 01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:48.199 but that's a that's as big as I could get it for our old school 1538 01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:50.800 gift of the day. Yes, it is the old school gift that just 1539 01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:55.199 I tried to get a little bit larger, but it didn't work. Sorry 1540 01:33:55.199 --> 01:33:59.319 about that yet, ends men and the great job nov Mike, Emila, 1541 01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:02.600 thank you so much. Last minute, we had Van Johnson, as you 1542 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:06.720 know, but he had surgery on his knee and he's not feeling well, 1543 01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:12.600 so we're gonna push him off further. Monday we have Mode Davis from Texas. 1544 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.720 I don't have anybody for the eighteenth yet. Twenty first we got Chief 1545 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:20.560 Bob Ingram coming on. Then we got Christmas Day, well, probably gonna 1546 01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.960 have to film something, and then you have the twenty eighth open and Roofie 1547 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:30.359 should be back. Thanks for Rayfan for filing filling in. I think Roofie's 1548 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:32.279 gonna be going away. I don't know if he is or not, but 1549 01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:35.680 Ray will be there. We'll have him sitting in there, doesn't me. 1550 01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:40.039 I always have a well job as always. I gotta say I love that 1551 01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:42.760 Ray was here, and I wish that Lott was too, because I think 1552 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:45.560 the word of him as well. You know, I gotta take a quick 1553 01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:46.960 louse story. It's not it's not a happy one though, but it's just 1554 01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:51.840 that it really is, is it again? Because it's something something that was 1555 01:34:51.920 --> 01:34:56.880 like a reason I always hold him in my deep my heart because I wasn't 1556 01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.479 working this day, and I thank God that I wasn't. But but there 1557 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:01.079 was this iron the projects on the West side of Manhattan. You know, 1558 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:04.279 we were I think we were the second engine the squad eighteen and uh and 1559 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:08.439 it was like I think it was four kids that were dead in the apartment, 1560 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:11.560 like including like an eighteen month old. I think the oldest kid was 1561 01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:14.439 like maybe like nine, you know. And uh and and he was the 1562 01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:16.359 boss. He was he was covering in squatty team that day and uh and 1563 01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:19.760 I know I know it was I know that he never got over it, 1564 01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:23.159 you know. And and it's uh and I can't imagine anybody would, you 1565 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:26.000 know. But it's just so like I I just just bringing that up because 1566 01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:29.960 I whenever I hear Lui Frano's name, you know, it's just my heart 1567 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:31.760 in a beats for him, because you know, it's such an article. 1568 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:35.439 Rich Why I remember you from the rest of your school so much? Were 1569 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:39.760 you detailed there? We won't like duty for I worked there a lot, 1570 01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:42.239 but I was also probably there when you you were probably teaching when I was 1571 01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:45.279 there, you know, uh, I'm guessing, you know, because but 1572 01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:46.600 but I worked there a lot. You know, I got a lot of 1573 01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:49.079 tours there and not as much as some guy, you know. Yeah, 1574 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:53.600 and then at the end you got to drive the soak chief, right, 1575 01:35:53.680 --> 01:35:56.760 you drove a chief Jarden. Oh yeah, but he was. He wasn't 1576 01:35:56.800 --> 01:35:59.159 the sock chief. He was the safety chief at the time, and he 1577 01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:02.479 was I got my little my little bedroom at at home, you know, 1578 01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:08.279 headquarters on the I forget with Florida was whatever I forget you're on. Well, 1579 01:36:08.319 --> 01:36:10.079 I try to get him on the show. He's a great guy. 1580 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:14.319 He's he's terrific you talking about it's terrific. What a great guy. You 1581 01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:18.439 know he speaks of you. Yeah, I told him he was crazy, 1582 01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:21.920 but you know, no, no, no, no, all right, 1583 01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:28.600 guys. So Monday we'll be back with who I say, Mo Davis movie. 1584 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.239 Ye have a great weekend, Rich stay. Don't go anyway yet, 1585 01:36:32.279 --> 01:36:34.199 bro, because so we have a little thing after the show. Well I 1586 01:36:34.239 --> 01:36:41.039 want to bullshit with you for seconds. See everybody anyway, Jake Jake Rick 1587 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:45.000 through YouTube. Good to you YouTube, All you guys Frankie Suffin, Captain 1588 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:49.640 Grim's and the Schneiderman Irene. I hope to see Irene back out at Harrisburg. 1589 01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:54.800 Uh and uh what else? That's it. The first show coming up 1590 01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:57.640 is the Long Island Show that's in February. At some point I'll put the 1591 01:36:57.720 --> 01:37:00.800 date out there. We have to advertise for them, so we'll soon do 1592 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:05.199 that. Anniversary today, Pearl, and of course, the last thing I 1593 01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:09.640 want to say is thank not thank you, Happy birthday to my beautiful wife 1594 01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:14.000 tomorrow a Joe, Happy birthday, Love you, Moochoe. She's the best 1595 01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.800 in the world. Twenty nine, right, she's twenty nine, twenty nine 1596 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:21.039 years younger than me. I think, I think pretty five, right, 1597 01:37:23.039 --> 01:37:27.640 you know it? All right, guys, we'll see you on Monday. 1598 01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:30.880 Until then, stay long ago all right, guys, have a good night. 1599 01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:31.439 Be safe,