WEBVTT 1 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:47.240 Stand home, who is there? Nay, but do speak to me thy 2 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:52.600 name, Stand and unfold thine self, Desi, the prince of mystery and 3 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:57.640 woe, Sir David, Sir Florence, show thyself. We are men, 4 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:02.320 my Lord Desi, the motley fool rule of FARCICALI ish un explainery. The 5 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:07.879 famous Davidis of Stacoli. Appearest thou from fog and gloom, and not unlike 6 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:14.680 the red eyed, cheerless harbinger of doom himself, the West Virginian manmouth. 7 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:19.519 Indeed, good, Sir, I sneak alike into a tatsil verm on highest 8 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.879 mountain top, and verily unto thee, I say, y'all shall leave. 9 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:30.480 Good Davidis pray tell from where may one divine some knowledge of the witchic arts 10 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:36.640 which watch our woeful function? Soberly I know not of these witchick arts, 11 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.040 my lord, alas my love for such as vexed at best, and seek 12 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:46.079 I not the truth of such delight. Methinks this fool knows more than he 13 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.159 lets on. Tis well, then, fool, that thou art ignorant. 14 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:55.200 The truth is far more vexing than the lie. I take my leave and 15 00:01:55.319 --> 00:02:00.280 hope we meet Anon indeed, and farewell, good sir, Henny luck give 16 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:10.280 you light for which is meat, where truth escapes the night? Hell, 17 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:20.479 and good morrow. We are old end tie me well, met to me 18 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.719 in the tone of David Stecco. And now mayst speak to me as though 19 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:31.479 I am lord of the keep, master of the manner, Davids of Florence, 20 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:37.759 David of the Flora. Why don't you clean your pentamina out there? 21 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:44.080 All? Hey, everybody's blurry photos, you know it. Blessed be to 22 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.199 you all. I just can't wait to get this one started. Oh, 23 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:53.639 may the goddess light shine down upon us. That's right, she's got anything, 24 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.639 all right. Obviously she shone the spotlight upon us for that intro. 25 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.000 Yeah, she sure did. She. She guided us maybe through the incantations 26 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:07.039 we've done. We're talking about WICCA today, that's right. How about that. 27 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.759 It's the most popular format for a modern witchcraft. Yeah. Yeah, 28 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:17.639 we're continuing on our blurry foetober. Yeah. I hope it's going well for 29 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:27.280 you. It's not too spookkey. I hope it is too spook I don't 30 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:36.120 have your best interests. I take a nominal liking to your life. Uh 31 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.280 yeah, yeah, This one's not gonna be too too spooky, but hopefully 32 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.520 it'll be informational for you. Yeah, it should be. It should be 33 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:46.199 cool. We have discussed wickens a number of times on this podcast. Yeah, 34 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:52.120 almost ad nauseum, but not right right, And we came really close 35 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.960 a year ago while we were discussing the history of witchcraft to honestly doing some 36 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.879 research on this, but we still managed to dodge the bullet. So for 37 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:06.319 a full rich twelve months we have wallowed and ignorance and just said whatever pops 38 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:10.680 into our head. And by we, I mean me. David Flora has 39 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.639 done a pretty good job of being circumspect about it, but I just pop 40 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.399 wise whenever I feel like it. And so let me start our podcast by 41 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:23.000 saying, I'm glad to have actually learned about the Wickan religion, the Wicca 42 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.399 religion. That's the first thing I learned. Oh, Wiccan is a person 43 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.199 practicing Wicka. I like that. Yeah, so that's the first thing I 44 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.439 learned, right there. So yeah, I've learned, and it's it's it's 45 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:39.959 a it's a really complex and interesting and fun religious system. Yeah, and 46 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:46.040 on this episode, we hope to tell everybody what Wicca is and a little 47 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.480 bit of its history. It's it's short but detailed history. Yeah, it's 48 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:53.439 a it's as such, Johnny come lately, as far as the druidic arts 49 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.120 go. And uh. And then we're going to talk about some of the 50 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:00.480 myths and stereotypes and maybe some of the practices that go into oh wicka. 51 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:02.680 So for the myths and stereotypes, is it just a clip show of things 52 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:12.079 I've said? Sorry, Well, I would like to Uh. I'd like 53 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.800 to point out that I may have done some people some disservice. Maybe I've 54 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.879 gotten people in their heads when I requested a photograph of a hot wiken. 55 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:24.959 You know what, because because now I'm asking you to judge yourself, and 56 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.079 that's just that's going down. Here's the thing. I would accept any photo 57 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.800 and I would say that is a hot wiken. There you go. That 58 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.360 clears it up for us then, because you know what's you know what's sexy? 59 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:42.959 Confidence? Oh, I mean we're I'm already pulling the wheel off the 60 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.360 wick and Highway. I'm already like, no, let's go off to this 61 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:57.079 crazy place. You know what's sexy? Eyeliner? If it if I had 62 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.639 had a hundred guesses as to what you're gonna say, I would have lost. 63 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.959 Let's let's talk about this thing. Let's let's see what Wicca is and 64 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.040 what what all the herberber is about. Yeah, there's a lot of Herbert 65 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:17.199 so Wicca is a neopagan religion that can be found in many English speaking countries, 66 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:21.800 and by neopaganism, let's let's talk about what that is. Uh. 67 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:28.360 These are religious movements which claim to be derived from various historical pagan beliefs of 68 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:33.040 pre modern Europe. A lot of them focus on the unity of spirit and 69 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:40.000 nature of God and man, and a lot of them in terms of paganism, 70 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:44.680 they have a very clear cut definitions of ethnicity that go along with it 71 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.120 too. Yeah, which is which was interesting, not in a bad way, 72 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.480 I don't think, right, No, I've never I've not seen it 73 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:55.120 as a I mean, I don't know. And whenever you do have any 74 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.040 kind of ethnic breakdown, you're instantly like, I get kind of kind of 75 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.199 squeamish with it. But I couldn't find anything to support my I can be 76 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.759 like, oh, there it is. That's that's where it is. Well 77 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:09.040 by by this definition of ethnicity, separating you know, different ethnic groups. 78 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.600 It's I think, doing it just to tell the difference. It's not saying 79 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.439 one group's better than another, which I think is what we get in trouble 80 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:19.279 with. I love they don't they don't sell jerseys or cool scarves or anything, 81 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.920 so there's no way to tell. They don't compete against each other in 82 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:29.199 any organized I see, I see sports reference see because I you know, 83 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.160 we don't have any baseball scarves or Yeah. Well I was thinking, I 84 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:36.879 was thinking like FIFA, because it's pretty international, right, So in my 85 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.680 mind that's why it took me a second to get there. Yeah, because 86 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:45.480 Americans don't we call it soccer. Soccer. We made up a word run 87 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.399 around. No one else uses it because we made true football was taken. 88 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.959 This this is interesting. Much like voodoo, they don't have a central authority. 89 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:59.319 Now there are what they're what they call traditions, which function a lot 90 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:03.879 like DENI dominations, say in the Christian Church. Yeah, but it's it's 91 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.759 not even I don't think that you can even compare it that way too well 92 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:13.079 either, Like you can't say, oh, a tradition is a denomination of 93 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.279 it's there's there's more to it than that. This is just sort of saying, 94 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.560 if you think of things in these terms that you might be familiar with, 95 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.439 the wickest stuff are gonna look like it this way. Yeah, and 96 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.079 I think some of that makes sense in there. I think as far as 97 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.559 like human behavior, it does. It does share a lot of similarities with 98 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:39.399 Vodu, just in that these groups are are usually they don't intermingle. It's 99 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.799 not like one um. I mean, and I know I'm using the wrong 100 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:46.639 word, but let's say sect. You know, one group of Wikins get 101 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.919 used to a very specific style of worship and in the way that they comport 102 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.000 themselves, there's not a lot of intermixing with other groups. And so I 103 00:08:54.440 --> 00:09:01.159 think it's very easy for these groups to become further and further uh separated, 104 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.480 much like you get um you know, from Vodou to uh Louisiana, voodoo 105 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.399 to hoodoo, you know, like those that that kind of trails as people 106 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:15.759 disperse or and it gets personalized with each group as each group it's were isolated. 107 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:18.159 Sure, yeah, that's that's a good way of putting it. Um 108 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:24.279 Wicca is a formally recognized religion, and it gained prominence after the nineteen fifty 109 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.720 one repeal of the last Witchcraft Act in England, so it started in England. 110 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:33.639 There was still witchcraft on the books in the fifties. Oh yeah, 111 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.759 righteous, Yeah, they're sure, we're uh. And it is a recognized 112 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.879 religion in America. Here's an important thing. Wicca and witchcraft are not the 113 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.440 same thing, right, probably, which probably should have said that, like 114 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.440 before the intro, we should have moved that as far to the front as 115 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.720 possible. Uh. Practitioners of each are often called witches, but not all 116 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:03.159 Wiccan's practice witchcraft, and not all witches practice wicca, although many times Wiccans 117 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.279 will refer to themselves as witches yep, which it leads to a fair amount 118 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.519 of confusion. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like squares and rectangles. 119 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.840 Yeah, and there's also a real visceral willingness to identify them as witches. 120 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:24.600 And Wiccas as a religion draws heavily from witchcraft, which we'll get into later. 121 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.799 And and I think that I've I've mentioned this before. I think that 122 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:33.200 there's also some street cred to be gained from saying you're a witch as opposed 123 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.639 to a Wiccan. Sure, people are less inclined to arf with witches, 124 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:46.120 but people are very inclined to rf with wickens as as as we may have 125 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.600 proven over the course and this last year, I think high school has done 126 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:54.799 a disservice to general So to break this down a little bit further, witchcraft 127 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:01.600 requires no belief in specific gods or goddesses, and there's not a specific spiritual 128 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:09.919 path that which is practice witchcraft follow for Wicca. Wicca is typically duotheistic worshiping 129 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:16.399 a mother goddess and a horned God, though the beliefs can range from monotheistic 130 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.159 to polytheistic. Yeah, they can. They'll believe in one god, they 131 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.679 believe in many gods, and depending on tradition, some emphasis is placed on 132 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.679 the goddess or something akin to a Celtic pantheon, or maybe animism or being 133 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:37.120 an agnostic, and then it starts just running the gamut, you know. 134 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.039 And this is what we're talking about, These these traditions, you know, 135 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.240 it kind of they separate off. They kind of do what they want, 136 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:46.480 how they feel, what speaks to them. Yeah, and you hear mostly 137 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.559 an empathy with the goddess. I think that's the most common, right, 138 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.840 um. You know, And you can you see bumper stickers and things that 139 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.240 reference the goddess. That's not terribly uncommon. And we'll get into that later 140 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.879 of what tradition that that grew out of and and how that that came to 141 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:07.720 be, because originally it wasn't so much the big tradition in Wicca wasn't it 142 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:13.240 didn't have anything to do with the goddess as as the number one, right, 143 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.840 And before we start getting more into the too, the history, let's 144 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:20.720 let's keep going down the path of to telling you what wick is here. 145 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:22.879 Yeah, yeah, it's so. It's so easy though, like it's it's 146 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.559 hard to say what it is without going into depth about what it is. 147 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.039 You know, it's hard to give like a nutshell on it. A lot 148 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.240 of do it. A lot of things are intertwined here, like like the 149 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.799 bark of a twisted root that, yeah, I see what you did, 150 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:43.519 all right. So Wickens celebrate eight main holidays or what they call sabots, 151 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:52.480 and hold es bots or rituals at the full and new moon. So quite 152 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.759 a bit of revelry during the year, which it's good. Some equinoxes, 153 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:03.519 some solstices in there. Some Wiccans join a coven or a group of witches, 154 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:11.080 some work alone and those are called solitaries. And a little fun fact, 155 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:15.240 multiple covens together is called a grove. I did not know that. 156 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.159 Yeah, that is a fun fact. Here's another fun fact. A bunch 157 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.519 of owls is called a parliament. The murder of ravens, crash of Rhinoceri, 158 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:33.759 Warren of of rabbits, Stephen of pigs. Now, according to the 159 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:39.879 Wiccan read that is R E. D E, which is the statement of 160 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:45.360 the key moral system. In Wicca. Morality is ruled in part through the 161 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:50.360 statement and it harm none. Do what thou wilt? Now that sounds familiar 162 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:54.759 to me, does it? What have you heard that before? Maybe my 163 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:58.159 homeboy, mister alister Crowley. Oh will that's interesting? Do what you will 164 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.200 be the whole of the law, that the old law of Felima there will 165 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:05.879 uh we'll touch back on the yeah, I think yeah, people'll get back 166 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.200 to mister Crowley. So, uh. Wicca now is not a belief in 167 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.759 black magic or casting spells on others. To calm down, Grandma, the 168 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:26.000 main tenant is to harm the old bat wha, Grandma, are you tired? 169 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.480 Do you need a nap? No? No, no, Grandma, 170 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.159 We're not not, which is no no, people's court is not on. 171 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.080 No. Matt Locke does not fight, which is Grandma. I love I 172 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.519 love you, I love you. You can you? Will you go to 173 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.679 bed? Will you go to bed? I know there was that one episode 174 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.759 where Jessica Fletcher when in that haunted mansion, but that's not where we're talking 175 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.759 about today. It's next episode, Grandma. It's America's most hated. It's 176 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:58.240 right, good night, Grandma. I don't know why I thought it was 177 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:05.519 so funny that the main tenant of wick is to harm no one. Yeah, 178 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:07.799 don't don't do harm dude, da dude, do it? Do it? 179 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.200 You will as long as it as long as you're not a jack, 180 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:15.720 keep it in your own backyard. They also emphasize free will, allowing individual 181 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:20.120 freedom with as little interference as possible. Basically, you do your own thing, 182 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.799 but think of how it affects others, just like a big government. 183 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:28.320 In their religion, it does sound like the libertarian religion. I was really 184 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:35.440 getting some of that in there, High Priest Ron Paul. There is a 185 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:41.000 deep reverence for nature in uh in Wicka and the belief that all objects possess 186 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:46.200 a spirit which is all connected to each other. And if you leave those 187 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.679 objects for a hundred years. You got yourself at Yoka. Oh there you 188 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.440 go. That's how the corkboard gets old. And I'm stitching them together like 189 00:15:54.679 --> 00:16:00.159 crazy. You really are like I like of Ard Mutt cardboard to get the 190 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:07.919 connectings. Diva, how's it going by? I heard tales you talked about 191 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:15.080 the week because I too want to make an understanding. I came right before 192 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:22.279 the ritualing. I am but ice naked. That's how they do it right 193 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:27.639 with knives. Is this no moon? Or used the moon? Here is 194 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:34.559 my moon? Huh? Saying Diva to Maga Jokings, Oh why you are 195 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:41.240 run from Diva wherever? About the goal? Um? You know you mentioned 196 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.320 the articles that they agreed to in seventy five. And here's a great irony. 197 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.639 This is something that I learned, I mean when I was doing my 198 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:53.639 research. A really good source for information, I mean good is in gigantic 199 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.600 quote. So here this entire sentence out as a bit of an aside. 200 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.440 We actually we actually got feedback from a listener once. Do you remember when 201 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:08.039 I just started making up a story about the episode where I said that Superman 202 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:14.880 was invented during World War Two? As like some I forget what it was. 203 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.799 We had a listener for just as things turn out, pause, stop 204 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.519 listening, like finished a car ride or something right at the end of that 205 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:27.240 story. And was so impressed with this factoid A superman told a whole bunch 206 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:32.160 of co workers, and they were like, what is wrong with you? 207 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.920 So I need to put these things up front. You need to listen to 208 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:42.839 everything about to say before you stop or pause this. Yeah, I felt 209 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:49.680 really bad about that. Of all the crazy sources of information, I found 210 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:56.960 a pretty detailed accounting of the Council of American which is in nineteen seventy four. 211 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:02.720 Who set up there the articles? It's from Jesus as Savior dot com. 212 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:08.680 Oh, and the website is festooned with screaming skulls and um plenty of 213 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:14.000 Bible verses saying you know, I can I can see black background with white 214 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.759 lettering, so already I know that it's a chock full of goodness. Yeah 215 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.400 you're you're already like, oh, thank god it's professionals. Yeah. But 216 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.599 here's the thing, Like, while there is tons of and thank them for 217 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:29.839 color coding, Um, the Bible quotes will be in red type. Um, 218 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.200 you know it's just pretty much screaming that all Wakens are going to hell. 219 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.160 It's it's your bog standard born again lunacy. Great. At least they 220 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:41.000 include the complete description of everything they're railing against. So as far as a 221 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:45.279 place to like read the different articles. Wow, I mean, and they're 222 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.039 I mean they're they're only quoting them accurately so that they can then tear them 223 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.279 apart again. But I actually was able just to go through the articles and 224 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.720 everything, and it was it was pretty helpful. Wow. Interesting. So 225 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.319 now I believe in Uh, I believe in Wicca, and I cannot wait 226 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.680 to be counted a Wiccan myself. Thank you, Jesus as Savior dot com. 227 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.599 Thank you. You know what, what what's interesting about Wicka is that 228 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.839 you can be Christian and Wicca. Oh yeah, you can be a Muslim 229 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:19.759 and Wicca. You know, it doesn't mean just because you you you are 230 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:25.680 a practicing Wiccan, doesn't mean you can't believe in a Christian God, or 231 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:29.480 you can't believe in Allah or you know. It's like, yeah, there's 232 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.400 the easiest religion there is, Yeah, there there is. Uh. I 233 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:34.640 actually had some research on this. This is kind of something that I was 234 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:40.440 going to bring to the to the table is um Trinitarian wickans Uh, it's 235 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.920 the Trinitarian tradition, so that that sect or denomination, whatever word you want 236 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.680 to use, that won't quite describe it. The Trinitarians is is a Christian 237 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:55.960 wicker sect and they they equate their trinity directly to the Biblical Trinity and just 238 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.799 sort of kind of bridge those two religious beliefs. And it's it's a popular 239 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.920 movement in WICCA. And it you know, it's as you can imagine, 240 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.359 they struck up a fair amount of sparks, but a very recent even for 241 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:10.720 a Wicca, very recent. Um they started in ninety nine, I believe, 242 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.839 and um, I think it was our two thousand and two was when 243 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:19.400 they really uh they adopted the name Trinitarian tradition. But yeah, it's it's 244 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:26.160 it's not I almost wonder it's the same thing as like any of those very 245 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.240 calm, passive religious systems that just make people crazy by doing nothing but their 246 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:37.960 own thing, right, just because because their their approach is to not get 247 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.759 in people's faces, people bring the face getting to them. One of the 248 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:49.039 core principles of of Wicca is exactly that that you you don't take this religion 249 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.519 and put it in other people's faces. You don't try and like convert the 250 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.759 masses. You do your own thing, and you let other people do their 251 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:00.160 own thing. And if they decide they like WICCA, hey, welcome in. 252 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.960 That's great. Yeah, we'll boil up a caldron for you. If 253 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:08.319 they don't, then good on them. Let them, let them go worship 254 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:14.640 Jesus. Yeah, who cares? Man? Yeah, And I think it's 255 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:21.000 especially in the United States, no one likes a reasonable person. Nothing will 256 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:26.359 incite fury faster than someone being completely reasonable. I mean, it makes it 257 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:33.319 crazy. You can't get much more topical than that. Dude. Oh man, 258 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.440 let's talk about the history a little bit. Yeah, let's dig into 259 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:40.559 it the since it's a recent religion, that's that's come onto the scene, 260 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.559 and it's debatably recent. But maybe we'll get into that a little bit in 261 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.839 here in this section too. Uh. And we're talking since the nineteen thirties. 262 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:55.480 Yeah, that that it's been bobbing around in people's backyards and groves. 263 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:02.000 Uh, it's got a it's got a pretty d tailed history to it. 264 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.920 People are are documenting what's going on, and like a lot of the main 265 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.599 founders or the or the people that were involved heavily in the you know, 266 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:18.640 the first big covens or traditions have just recently started dying. So I mean, 267 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.240 it's easy to find a lot of details in this is what I'm trying 268 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.640 to say, Yeah, exactly, And what we're gonna do is is try 269 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.200 to hit some highlights, because we could be here all day talking about you 270 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:36.680 know, this is our first four hour episode. Yeah, so's trap in. 271 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:40.599 Yeah, get comfy, get one of those big gulps, get a 272 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:47.039 get a big gulp. I hope you're a trucker, blurry photos. Hope 273 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:52.359 you're a trucker. We've always considered ourselves to a friend of the road warrior, 274 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:03.079 the best companion when you're doing a double nickeled on the blurry photos, 275 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.559 once again asking you Wickens out there, keep the shiny side up, dirty 276 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:14.519 side down. Oh man, wicken Truckers like that a lot. Blessed be 277 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:19.119 most well. I was going to take that a different way, but I 278 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:25.759 think I think you encapsulated then. Yeah, anyway, it's a detailed history. 279 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:30.000 We're gonna hit real, real high highlights. Bear bear with us on 280 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:36.240 it, and uh, it's easy to find this whole history out there. 281 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:40.480 There's plenty of pages that have information and stuff. So if this doesn't lift 282 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.039 your skirt, then you can get out there and do your own skirt. 283 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.880 Lifting your own skirt, all right. Uh. Nineteen thirties, not going 284 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:51.519 to jail for you. Agains in England began pride You're worth it. Though, 285 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.200 groups in England began practicing a form of which cult based on books and 286 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:02.720 theories put forth by the Egyptologist to Margaret Murray, I like that name because 287 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:07.559 that's a lose lose in a religious in a Christian religious society. MM, 288 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:15.359 which is bad. Cult's bad. We're a which cult? Victims of marketing 289 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.920 early on. He's not an ass, He's not a jag. He's like 290 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:25.400 an ass jag. Yeah, which cult? Those people they were, they 291 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:30.160 were really risking it then. So they drew from many different sources. And 292 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.720 when I say many, I mean think of a source and they probably got 293 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.640 something. What did you what do you have? Well? I was thinking 294 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.680 about Alister Crowley, Well, boom, think of another source where you go? 295 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.640 I was thinking about the Chucky Cheese band. That's that's in there, 296 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.720 the plastic those plastic things. There's something Explosion. That was the name of 297 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:56.039 the band in Chucky Cheese Pepperoni Explosion. I mean they they they may have 298 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.480 you know, music, Music's great for the soul. So uh, they 299 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:07.160 drew from things like druidry, freemasonry, mythology, folk magic, and the 300 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.960 list goes on and on and on. I mean, and I think they 301 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:15.480 were they were taking stuff from and putting it into this witch cult. Basically, 302 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:21.480 I love the name. In the forties, a recent initiate named Gerald 303 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:30.759 Gardner founds the brickett Wood Coven and then initiates a later notable Wiccan Dorine Valiante. 304 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.880 Now these are two big names that if you're going to remember some names, 305 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:40.039 feel move. Uh, Gerald Gardner and Dorine Valiante. Jerald Gardners is 306 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.599 pretty much famous for being I think they call him the father of modern witchcraft. 307 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:51.839 Ye he got WICCA relay going on its feet and into the public eye. 308 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.599 I should say, uh, gosh, it's it's It would be so 309 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.240 easy to spiral into any any road or side path right here. Um, 310 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.279 but we're going to try to keep going focus nineteen fifty one. Like we 311 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:11.759 said before, the Witchcraft Act of seventeen thirty five is repealed. Wow, 312 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.319 yeah, how did they even find the parchment upon which it was written? 313 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.920 What was the witch finder general? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Matthew 314 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:23.799 Hopkins, he's probably spinning in his grave. Oh man, he was so 315 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:30.559 mad. He finally got that legislation pushed through. Gardner and others began bringing 316 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:36.960 wicca to the public. Though it's referred to by a few different names, 317 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.079 one of which being old Religion. It's not really referred to as wicca at 318 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.839 this time, although that has floated around. Give me that old religion. 319 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:52.279 And then on into the fifties, Gardener's tradition became the main kind of of 320 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.440 wicca practiced in England, and then later it's called which you might hear a 321 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:03.000 lot, gardener Ian wicca. So the Gardenerian tradition is a big one that's 322 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.039 out there, and that that has to do with how it was practiced, 323 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.920 what what kind of things he brought, you know, to the tradition and 324 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.519 uh, and how they did things. Some of the things will will bring 325 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.240 up later which are pretty funny. In the nineteen sixties, wicca became the 326 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:25.759 name of the religion. It kind of caramelized into a nice wicket to a 327 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:30.240 rich wicket A nice nice title there. Uh. Nineteen sixty four, Gerald 328 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:36.720 Gardner died and on into the sixties, the British tabloids started spreading negative portrayals, 329 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.640 but WICCA kept growing, and then you get a couple of folks named 330 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.480 Robert Cochrane and Alex Sanders became prominent leaders at the time, and then WICCA 331 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.000 spreads on over to America and austral That's a hell of a jump. I 332 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.279 you know what I think, England Australia. I think it makes sense. 333 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:03.200 But because of while the thieves and no, I mean Mayor du Wills. 334 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:11.960 Yeah, because because it's it's England's thug children. We're like the little We're 335 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.680 like the younger siblings, you know, and like England's like a rebellious teenagers, 336 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.559 like, hey, I found this totally cool religion. We're like, 337 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.240 I cannot wait to hear about it. Cigarettes. That's right. In the 338 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:29.400 nineteen seventies you start getting books on how to become wickan get published. Oh 339 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:32.599 man, And was there ever a better time than like the sixties and seventies 340 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.039 for something like this to take off right right? Yeah? And now in 341 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.839 a culture in the in the eighties, Dorian Valiente, along with Stuart and 342 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:49.200 Janet Farrr and Scott Cunningham promote the craft and self initiation. I think primarily 343 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.759 up to this point for traditions you had to be initiated into them, and 344 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:59.000 by that I mean you had to be invited, you know, to or 345 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:03.640 you could request to be initiated. But it was getting kind of close to 346 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.000 one of those like Freemason kind of kind of videos kind of that was that 347 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.880 was I think like in there in the the evolution of this system, that 348 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:18.720 was the tipping point between between a religious belief or like another in a long 349 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:26.400 chain of secret society, right right. So um Dorian Valiente and the others, 350 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.240 they're really pushed for Wicked to be more accessible to everyone. So they 351 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.279 said, it doesn't matter if if you don't get invited or initiated into a 352 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.000 Kevin, you can practice this yourself. You know you are wicka wick is 353 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:42.960 you. It's it's great. Uh. In the nineties, Wa of course 354 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:48.960 comes into pop culture with movies that that were less than kind to it. 355 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.799 Yeah, but some got on a lot of radars. Yeah, I mean 356 00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.119 like The Craft for example, not a great movie, pretty great soundtrack. 357 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.039 Yeah, Uh and in neither of those facts helped the Wicking community, because 358 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:10.039 again, it couldn't be any farther from what Wicka actually is, Yeah, 359 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.640 because it wasn't in the craft. Didn't they hurt each other with the casting 360 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.319 spells on each other. They were texting and cursing, and they're like floating 361 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:22.400 around and they're all like angry goth girls. Yeah, Like they couldn't possibly 362 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:27.319 have been more antithetical to what Wicka actually is. Yeah, but got Wika 363 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:33.039 into a lot more people's forefront there um. And then in nineteen ninety nine 364 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:40.119 Dorine Valiantate died and and today wick It continues to grow. And just like 365 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:45.640 Vodoo and the voodoos and all that stuff, it's it's hard to put a 366 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:49.720 number on how many people practice the religion because there's no central authority. You're 367 00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:55.319 not beholden to, you know, a central power or figure. So so 368 00:30:55.480 --> 00:31:00.400 nobody's going to track you government studies out of your life better, but he's 369 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:07.160 going to spou on your spells spell spies. This fall on Fox, there's 370 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:11.559 not a raven sitting up there on every branch that's right, just watching you. 371 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.440 Um Man. That sucks. I really blew that I could have saved 372 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:23.759 spell spies. Now you could my watch. Now here's here's a fun part. 373 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.839 And we're getting back to an old ac here. Gerald Gardner borrowed heavily 374 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:34.440 from the works of a famous Alistair Crotly. Oh did he? He did? 375 00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:40.480 Many of the rites and material that he produced is we're just embellishments of 376 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.759 Crowley works. Oh. And in fact, a lot of people will say, 377 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.799 well, it's not even up for debate because it's such a blatant rip 378 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.680 off of Crowley stuff that you can't you can't even debate that. It's not 379 00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.559 no, no, no, it's do what you want be the whole of 380 00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:05.880 the law. I totally invented it. Do thou walt value? Those are 381 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.640 our blurry photos, breaking bads, tea shirts, those available for sale trademark 382 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:19.480 shall be the whole of the law. Bitch money. So Dorian Valiente called 383 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.039 him out for this, and when he when he tried to introduce new things, 384 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.039 saying oh, this is something that I wrote, She's like, wait 385 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.319 a minute, no, one's not right. That's Aleister Crowley's stuff. And 386 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.799 he didn't like that. And then after after Gardner kept pushing Wicca more and 387 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:39.680 more into the public eye, maybe maybe for personal gain. Valiente didn't like 388 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.960 that it was getting getting out there and not she She felt like it was 389 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.880 cheapening what it was. Yeah, and then when he tried to push for 390 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.240 less female power in there, basically pulled out some of the old witchcraft crap 391 00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.200 laws. Uh, she didn't. She didn't like that, of course, 392 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.599 and the two had a falling out. She kind of split from the coven, 393 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.359 which is a hell of a maneuver to try to try to limit the 394 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.200 role of women in witchcraft. You'd think tough, tough move, tough move 395 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:14.079 balls ballsy dick move, big dick move. Asked Jack move, asked Jack 396 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:20.279 move. So. Valiante later joined Robert Cochrane's coven, but she soon called 397 00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:27.839 him out for his maliciousness toward other covens and for his apparent rampant drug use. 398 00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.839 Okay, he used a lot of drugs for his rituals Okay, and 399 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:38.039 then died from that wow. Shortly after she left his coven to practice solitarily. 400 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.119 Well, that's a that's a tough thing. I mean, she was 401 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.240 super into it and no one was wiccan enough for her. Yeah, this 402 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.319 Valiantee was was kind of a badass. And she she wasn't taken no crap. 403 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.720 She wasn't going to let people get away with it. She took it 404 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.559 really seriously. And she I mean to me, she was the one that 405 00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.480 kind of pushed WICCA to be what it is today. You know, got 406 00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.799 it as as a real religion instead of just like you said, secret cult 407 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.719 or just some British richies getting together and yeah, and on streams and getting 408 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.760 naked. Right, when you have an organization and there are lots of religious 409 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.719 belief systems that involve psychotropics occasionally or something like that, But when you have 410 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.559 a guy who's saying no, no, no, a lot of these rituals 411 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.880 require us to all do these drugs, you are you are just right on 412 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.760 the doorstepubb of the sex cult. Yeah, yeah, the drugs show up 413 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.840 and then it's a sex cult like a week later, believe me. Then 414 00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:46.159 through this God's so exhausting and sexual and it starts small. Hey you guys, 415 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.280 um, I know that we were supposed to be welcoming the new Moon, 416 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.559 but I brought a sixer and and everyone's like, sure, it sounds 417 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.480 great, that sounds fun. And then I'm the bad guy for shutting it 418 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.239 down because I don't want to be in a sex cult. And in three 419 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:05.840 months time you go from cores light to sex cult. So the short history 420 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:10.599 of Wicked, like we said, it's just rife with in fighting, fracturing, 421 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.920 taking from other sources. But it's a new and growing belief system super 422 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.400 part for the course. Sure it seems to have stabilized into a religion though 423 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:27.639 that it's open to change and very much open to personalization. It rules the 424 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:32.320 Renaissance fair with an iron fist, and it has it has an emphasis on 425 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:37.039 doing good and respecting the earth. Yeah, which I mean to me, 426 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.719 that's that's something that a lot of people should get behind, right, I'm 427 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:45.079 I'm I'm far more in favor of that than a more populist. No, 428 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:51.199 it's our toy to break. However, I can feel like I was told 429 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:57.400 I had dominion over everything, So guess what, styrofoam everything. I will 430 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.920 always I will always hang out with the Wiccans in that one good good that's 431 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.599 a start, that's right, and then sex called. Hey, I'm playing 432 00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:12.000 by their rules. I'm not in charge. Let's talk about the practices of 433 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.280 of Wick a little bit. Yeah, things they do and use. First 434 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.280 of all, let's let's point out there's no sacred text like say, the 435 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.880 Christian Bible or the Koran or any of that. You can't pin them down 436 00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:30.320 on scripture. However, Gerald Gardner did cobble together a grimoire of spells and 437 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:36.280 rituals that he called the Book of Shadows and passed it down to followers to 438 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:39.920 add and adapt to as they pleased. And uh, these these are popular 439 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.360 for use so as they include recipes for spells and rituals things. How you 440 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.000 know, it's like a how how two book? Yeah, but uh, 441 00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.320 it's I don't think that it's meant to be like this is this is the 442 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.760 whole lawn you If you don't follow it, you're going straight to wick a 443 00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.519 Hale. What do you want to bet right now? I'm gonna pull up 444 00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.239 Amazon. What do you want to bet? There's a Wicca for Dummies book? 445 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.599 Oh well, I don't know if i'd take that bed because I saw 446 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.559 that book. Oh you did. Yeah, I'm still kind of it's kind 447 00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:13.119 of crap. I want to know how much it costs? Oh my god. 448 00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.119 Okay, well yes it exists. I've lost a little more faith in 449 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:22.079 humanity and it's thirteen ninety eight in paperback. But they do have a book 450 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:29.079 of Shadows that is again personalized to whatever traditional or coven that you're part of, 451 00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.920 or you yourself, you know, whatever you have found to work for 452 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.000 you, that's you. You add to it, you adapt to it. 453 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:42.039 That's something that that has stayed true since Gardener's original. So the Garden of 454 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:49.239 Gardeners, Garner Ran the original Garner the g the gar Original, the gar 455 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:54.039 Animal ritual forms of magic, akin to folk magic, are practiced on certain 456 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:59.039 occasions. Not it's not like you get up and you cast spells all day. 457 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:02.400 That's not Yeah, that's not what you do, notably, certainly not 458 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:08.519 like the Krolean you know, three month preparation you know for a demon. 459 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.599 Yeah, and then you get tired of it, and yeah, they give 460 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.840 up. I love that. It's my favorite part the Sabots and Esbots is 461 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:21.039 when when they will do these ceremonies, these rituals. So here's some of 462 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.519 the tools that they use in these ceremonies. They have what's called an athame, 463 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.599 which is a black handled dagger that's used to direct energy. They have 464 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.679 a bowling, which is a white handled dagger which they used to cut chords 465 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.639 and herbs and candles and such. It's the it's the workingman's dagger, all 466 00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:45.960 right, dagger, the working wigan. Uh. They use wands. These 467 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:49.280 are traditionally made from wood, although they can be made from other things. 468 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.920 But this is more for more of a gentle invocation. It invites, it 469 00:38:54.039 --> 00:39:00.519 encourages, as opposed to the more masculine dagger, which directs and thrusts, 470 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:06.639 thrusts. Then they have the old pentacle yep, which is used in evocation. 471 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.320 It's representative of Earth, and that is the the five pointed star, 472 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:15.000 also known in some circles as a pentagram. Right. Uh, it's it's 473 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:20.920 a pentagram circumscribed by a circle. Yep. Not the same as the old 474 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:28.920 upside down pentagram which is used in satanism or representative of the head of the 475 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:34.840 devil. Right and for the record, foreshadowing maybe a future episode, satanism 476 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.159 as opposed to devil worship, which are not the same things at all. 477 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.519 Yep, yep. So you know, I'm just I'm just I'm just dropping 478 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.239 one little nugget out there and we'll pick it up in a future podcast. 479 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.159 These are like breadcrumbs. Back to the old candy shack jjibread house. That's 480 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.000 the one. You know how everything worked out well for those kids. Just 481 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.360 trying to make women look bad man, that's right. Sexism wasn't a witch 482 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.320 at all. She Nope, trying to help them woman of the woods. 483 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:08.840 They have chalices. These represent the feminine principle combines with the athama to form 484 00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:16.639 the vultron. Vultron. The wicked vultron is your mistake because you paused exactly 485 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:23.360 the best time. That's it's the masculine feminine principle, evocative of procreation. 486 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:27.679 Oh, I get it, I get it. Then they have um, 487 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.679 I bet you there. I'll bet there's a wick in somewhere that grabs like 488 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:40.480 a chalice and the dagger's like, hey, what's going on here? Whoa? 489 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:47.440 That guy does not last long. They also have the following tools. 490 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:52.320 A bessem, which is a broomstick, a cauldron, candles, incense, 491 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.960 an altar. There's a lot of a lot of stuff that goes into to 492 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:02.320 it tool wise. Now here's a fun. Jared Gardner pushed for practicing what 493 00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:09.840 he called skyclad or nude. Hey baby, you you want to go get 494 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:17.639 skyclad? Practicing like this is optional and it's been sensationalized quite a bit, 495 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:23.039 meaning that media portrayal of Wick as a bunch of naked right, we'll get 496 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:29.760 that to the in the the factor fiction portion for the rituals. If you 497 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.719 don't want to do it skyclad, then the least you can do as a 498 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:40.280 as a good self respecting wiccan just just do it just Yeah, a thongular 499 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:47.039 incantation is less pleasing than skyclad, but thong cloud is still pleasing to the 500 00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.079 goddess. The least you can do is practice in all natural attire. So 501 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.960 this is no you know, mixed synthetics or anything like that, which you 502 00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.280 know if you look at your Bible, right, eggs exactly. Thank you 503 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:06.079 Leviticus for your long list of things we're not allowed to do that we only 504 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.760 pay attention to one of Thanks Leviticus for your long list of how we're going 505 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:15.840 to hell. Yeah. Uh so, here's a here's a big one, 506 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.840 the Wheel of the Year. We've mentioned this before. Let's go through it 507 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.000 just a bit. These are this is the seasonal festivals, the sabots, 508 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:28.639 Yeah, that make up this wheel. Get out your calendars and your sharpies. 509 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.800 So let's start with your friend and mine so one. Ah. Yeah. 510 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:38.559 October thirty first, it's the eve of the Celtic New Year, celebrates 511 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:45.400 ancestors and harvesting, livestock and death. It's the time when the veil is 512 00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:51.239 thinnest between Earth and the other end. Buginig bug Bugin, Bughini, Bughini, 513 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:55.280 Bughini, Bughini, Bugini, Bougini, bougini buginiy Bogini bouging like him 514 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:59.760 doing it. You know how far you win? Yeah, I know, 515 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:02.920 it's it's the time of year when you don't you don't even have to collect 516 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:10.480 cal baschar. Oh no, yeah, then we got youle yep, hello, 517 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.880 not. You can't say the word you'll without me autonomically, like launching 518 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:24.519 into the Chevy Chase is weird? Stammering you a log speech from from Christmas 519 00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.880 vacation. And I won't do it only because I know I'm gonna do it 520 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.079 so much. And when we get to December, this is the winter solstice, 521 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:38.119 right, it's the longest and darkest nine Man. I have got I 522 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.280 have got to and man, I'm telling you write emails. I have got 523 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.239 to get a girlfriend by the longest night of the year, because it's just 524 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:50.920 so cool because as a dude, if you remember that and and make that 525 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.519 into like a December Valentine's Yeah, yeah, that's huge points, huge points. 526 00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:01.119 That's yeah, that's its celebrating it is. It's skyclad. A lot 527 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:08.400 of would skyclad bring out some candles? Yeah, get your get your cauldron, 528 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.360 bublin. See, this is this is what we need to get to 529 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.360 as a society. We need to get to the point of like, well, 530 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:21.880 everyone who who lives in functionally the Northern hemisphere, you know, like 531 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:30.599 Western society, regardless of their intrinsic religious beliefs. Christmas just happens and everyone 532 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.400 gets behind it because it's just fun. You don't have to believe any of 533 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.679 it. But Christmas can still be a lot of fun for people. We 534 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:43.159 need to get there with the Pagan and Wiccan traditions as well, because you 535 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.440 can be a ton of fun. It can be a great holiday that everyone 536 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:50.679 can enjoy, really could, man. It's it also is indicative of the 537 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.159 rebirth of the sun. That's why they that's why it's celebrated. Then we 538 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:59.280 get to the next one called Immolg. I have not heard of Immolg. 539 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.840 It's it's funny because it's got to be in there where yeah find it so 540 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:08.679 also known as Candlemas. I have heard of Candlemus. This is February second, 541 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:15.000 so uh a groundhog Day step aside, Yeah, uh this sorry, 542 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:21.679 MLK, there's a there's a new holiday in February. This is the first 543 00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:29.920 stirrings of spring, and within the Triple Goddesses celebrated candle miss in mulg Okay, 544 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:35.800 moving forward on on around the circle here the wheel. Clearly clearly they 545 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:39.000 never lived in Chicago because there is no spring stirring on the second of February 546 00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.840 whatsoever. It is quite thoroughly not stirring. There's a there's a lot of 547 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:52.440 seasonal depression stirring exactly the next one we get heard of this one Ostara. 548 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.840 Oh, we have discussed this, the vernal equinox. Yeah, we had 549 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.320 a little a little podcast that touched on this. We sure did. This 550 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.719 was a really really interesting one, light dark, in balance, and this 551 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.480 marks the beginning of spring for them. Yeah, and this is the one 552 00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.559 that this is the This has got a lot of Easter in it. Yeah, 553 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:15.880 we don't need to dance around it. I can just say it. 554 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.440 So if you if you're more interested in that listen to our Easter episode. 555 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.119 We we go into a star a lot. Yeah, there's a there's a 556 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:28.239 lot, a lot to it. Then we get Beltane, which is May 557 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:34.480 First aka May Day. Yep, it's the Celtic first day of summer and 558 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.960 the bell part of it comes from ball Or, the god of fire, 559 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:45.000 which we talked about in our Irish Legends episode. Man the shot caller himself. 560 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:46.800 We're going to be in trouble in a few years because we're really good 561 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.719 at this. Everything's just going to trip over everything else. There's not gonna 562 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:59.239 be a room. Every episode's a clip show. Then we've got Litha aka 563 00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:02.920 Midsummer. This is a fun one. This is the summer solstice. It 564 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:10.239 celebrates the sun, celebrates abundance and the longest today. So this is when 565 00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:17.360 you uh skyclad in skinny dip. Yeah, there's oh man skyclad dip. 566 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.719 I might Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make a real effort to start 567 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.800 incorporating these holidays into my year. The next one, we get Lunasa aka 568 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:35.800 Lamas Lorenzo Lamas August first. This is harvest time. You harvest the wheat, 569 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.119 you harvest the corn. It's based on the Celtic Lou, Old Lou 570 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:44.440 of the long Arm. Yeah once again, heart throb, you're so good 571 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.840 at this. The last one on the wheel, we've got mayben aka Modrin. 572 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.840 This is the tumnal equinox. Again, light and dark is in balance. 573 00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:59.920 And this is when you harvest fruit and celebrate that. Yeah, that's 574 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.719 your wheel of the year. Boom. Those are your eight sabots that are 575 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.400 celebrated in a wicked tradition. Mark your calendars because I know who I am. 576 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:14.239 Elements are important to Wickens. Air is representative of the east, and 577 00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:17.840 the color yellow fire is south, and red water is west, and blue 578 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.920 earth is north and green and then you've got the old threefold law. This 579 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:29.639 one might sound a little familiar, but actions have thrice multiplied repercussions. Whatever 580 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.519 you do comes back on your threefold. See that's all your invest in good 581 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:37.599 actions then, right, best best return you're going to get, exactly, 582 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:42.679 Dave. Yeah, let's dispel some myths. Oh man, let's let's talk 583 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.519 up some stereo times. Yeah, okay, right off the bat. I 584 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:49.840 know we've said it before. It absolutely bears repeating. Not devil worshippers, 585 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.719 No, it's not. It is not a form of Satanism that is false. 586 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.039 Yep, false as false can false. False. Wickens believe Satan is 587 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.679 a Christian creation and they don't follow that theology. So do you know why 588 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:06.960 they believe that, actually believe what that Satan's a Christian creation? Because it 589 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.280 is? Yeah, because that's entirely true. It's the same reason that they 590 00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:19.119 believe their car needs unleaded gas because it is Satan junks up the works. 591 00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.519 Have you ever seen when Satan gets in your system? Oh man, that's 592 00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:30.960 all marbarator. All my valves are clogged with sin. That alternator won't turn 593 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:37.800 over cause a Satan. What's that squeaking sam? Probably a Satan in the 594 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:43.679 radiator? So yeah, yeah, yeah, get that one out of your 595 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.320 head. Yep. That's not devil worship. Not nor is it satanism. 596 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:52.559 Nope nor nor are those the same. Right, here's one. We can 597 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.320 sacrifice animals, now, false, dude. The main thing is no harm. 598 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.559 Yeah, don't do harm to stuff. And that's and that's and once 599 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:07.239 again a little more noble than say the Judeo Christian perspective that has lots of 600 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:14.360 rules about people, not so much caring about the animals. And thank you 601 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.440 wickens, thank you for this sure, because yeah, just do no harm 602 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.159 and then put a period on the sentence covers everything. There you go, 603 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:27.119 there's no room for a lawyer to get in. I don't like that, 604 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:31.000 wickens. No one to shut up instead of like having mouth diarrhea. But 605 00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:36.440 it's like, do no harm. But I but if you're gonna do anything 606 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:42.199 for somebody, then maybe you should do some harm to and do you. 607 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:49.840 Guys have good stuff, but it do no harm. That doesn't not disinclude 608 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:57.360 people who don't want to already not be involved with this is hoping that there's 609 00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:01.880 so many double negatives in there that nobody's going to and then they sneak out 610 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:09.079 with the money. Here's one. Wicca is an ancient religion or ancient No, 611 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:15.639 oh, that's false. That's pretty false. Many aspects of paganism are 612 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:20.239 present in Wicca. Ye, but the amalgamation of what the religion is today 613 00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:23.280 happened in the last one hundred years. Yeah. It borrows very heavily from 614 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:25.880 a lot of source, a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff. 615 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:30.920 But it is definitely a twentieth century it's a it's it's a kid of the 616 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.280 twentieth century. Yeah, you can't. You can't say this is derived directly 617 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.480 from this religion that was practiced in the North of Ireland. You can, 618 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.440 but some of that is in there. So just to say it's it's straight 619 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:52.599 up ancient. How about this which is our evil? Falls That's that's a 620 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:54.559 dumb one. Yeah, that's just like I mean, I don't know, 621 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.559 that's that's like saying flora's are evil. Some of some floras are terrible. 622 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.880 It's true, some floras are terrific. I happen to work with the best 623 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:08.840 flora. Well you haven't met them all I been. Uh, yeah, 624 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:14.920 this is this is just dumbly false. Um wickens oppose negative harmful magic. 625 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.800 Yep, just straight up to say that which is our evil is probably a 626 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.000 smear campaign by opponents. Yeah, absolutely, or people that are very much 627 00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:28.159 judgy and it makes them feel better and whatever belief they have, exactly. 628 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.119 And it's funny. This is something that I came across when I was doing 629 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:36.280 my research. Um, lots of the smaller homebrew Wiccan websites you know for 630 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:45.239 craft craft, Yeah, craft craft. Uh, they that's really good. 631 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.639 The more I think about it, the more I like a lot of them 632 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.039 have a link that's just it's like like they've all had this same experience and 633 00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.079 they've all had to put up some sort of like click here if you're if 634 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:05.760 you're a born again Christian, dear born again Christian, we do not worship 635 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.039 Satan. We are not here to thwart you. We do not worship devils 636 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.559 or demons. We I mean, like it's they're like, we're glad we 637 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.519 pope you take the time to explore our website and learn more about our belief 638 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:21.280 system. Might be like they they there's it's such a common thing that you 639 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.639 just know it's because they just get hammered. Yeah, and a cool people. 640 00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.039 The hammer of ignorance, Yeah, it ain't. It ain't cool. 641 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.440 I will it ever break? Yeah? If never never. If if only, 642 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:37.039 if only everyone of every faith was just as as relaxed about it as 643 00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:42.000 the Wickens, that would be great. That would be that would be phenomenal. 644 00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.920 I think the Hammer of Ignorance was forged in the heart of a dying 645 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.519 star. Don't you dare, don't bring thor into this. I knew you 646 00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:52.960 were gonna I knew you know. It's like the evil twin Hammer. Yeah, 647 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:59.760 instead of being a badass Muelner lightning, summoning force of awesome and just 648 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:14.079 mules one more for you. All right, wiccans cast spells. Oh no, 649 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.679 I know you're probably your your your got instinct is to say no. 650 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:21.559 But they do, they do. It's true. It's true. Some don't, 651 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.400 uh, some do, but a lot do. Spell work is not 652 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:31.079 a focus of WICCA, but spells most certainly can be employed, and a 653 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.639 lot of times are with the rituals and the sabots. And this is also 654 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.960 this ties into the threefold ball. You know, if when I cast a 655 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:42.280 spell, if it's come back on you, it can. So if you 656 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.440 find yourself at the Bristol Renfair and suddenly find yourself transfixed with one woman, 657 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:53.760 should probably castle spell on you. Now it's like twenty percent Wicka, eighty 658 00:54:53.840 --> 00:55:00.760 percent Bodice, but that spell is still got cast. I you know what, 659 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:02.480 I'm going to break that down some more. Okay, I would say 660 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:08.280 I'd say fifteen percent Wicka, eighty percent Bodus, two and a half percent 661 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:14.639 beer, and then two and a half percent of those candied cashews. Oh 662 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:16.119 yeah, that's a really good Those are really good. They'll put you in 663 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.519 a good mood. Yeah, they're hot. Cinnamony. Yep, good, 664 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.880 you like them? Hot nuts were in our minds. We were both dancing 665 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:30.199 around it. So I was dancing around mine sky clad. Uh so that's 666 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.360 wicked for you. Yeah, in a in a skyclad nutshell. Oh man, 667 00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.199 how great is that? You like it? What do you think? 668 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.159 You know what? I honestly find it to be one of the most rational 669 00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.320 religious systems. Yeah. I think it's they're they're from from the outside here 670 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.599 looking in, looks real, laid back, tolerant. I will go so 671 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.039 far as to say that, and I this galls me, but I regret. 672 00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:02.639 I regret perhaps some disparaging comments I may have made about wicked ignorance, 673 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.239 you know, And that's how But you know what, they're a good group 674 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:12.639 of people and they're not in They're not fucking with anybody's shit at all. 675 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.239 They have a noe ucking policy. Yeah. Yeah, it's built in. 676 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.719 Yep. I know it can lose points being in the last hundred years and 677 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:24.360 not you know, steeped in this mysticism of the ages and whatnot, like 678 00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:31.000 like your your Big three or whatever, but one of your store bought religions. 679 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:36.920 This at least they've had time to get it right and figure out what 680 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.199 works and what's good. Yeah. So I have respect for that. I 681 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.920 respect a lot of the stuff that they're bringing to the table. Especially they're 682 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:52.079 just not not harming anything. And I like the interconnectedness and the respect for 683 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.639 nature. And yeah, I dig it. It seems real positive. So 684 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:59.119 so good Aya Wickens. Yeah, hooray for the Wickens. Now it's time 685 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.559 to offer up some rituals of our own. Yeah, one that we've it's 686 00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:10.400 been long established and and I'm hoping it comes back threefold. We've we've opened 687 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:15.239 up the circle. That's right, the pun circle, and we're stepping inside 688 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.559 right now. That's right. We've we've got a pun for the North, 689 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:21.960 We've got a pun for the South, we've got a pun for the East, 690 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.039 and we even have a pun for the west if it if it harm, 691 00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.760 pun do which you will? I went first last time? All right, 692 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.559 all right, I'm ready. Um, Early in Wickes history, there 693 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.840 there was this potential for schism. You know, there was the Gardenerian Wiggins. 694 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:45.519 There was another sect that was actually started. It was a German um 695 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:52.440 and it was based mostly on classical music that I'm employed. Um, Large 696 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.760 Viking women with horned helmets and that was the Wagnerian Wiggins. Oh yeah, 697 00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.199 wow, Yeah, have a that. You get a lot of mythology and 698 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:07.000 there. Yeah, you get some four gets get in there, get a 699 00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:15.360 ring cycle and not a lot of mules. Yeah. Wow, okay, 700 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:20.440 okay, Well I've got a I've got a bluegrass music store for witches. 701 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:22.559 Oh I love this. You ever, you ever, you've ever been here. 702 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:32.880 It's a bluegrass music store for witches called Wickan and a grinning. I 703 00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.480 like that a lot. I like that. I've got an entire clothing line 704 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:45.039 that is uh, it's it's for active practitioners of WICCA who enjoy being outdoors 705 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:51.119 all natural. Right, Uh, it's pretty natural okay. And uh it's 706 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:57.159 it's uh it helps draw the sweat off the body. It's it's it's wickaware. 707 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.639 Uh. And the the brand, the brand name is is Skyclad. 708 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:07.000 Wow, it feels like you're wearing nothing at all, nothing at all, 709 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:15.599 stupid sexy planters. That's funny because I just not too long. About a 710 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.920 month ago, I got a shirt. Uh, it's it's a it's a 711 00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:25.159 workout shirt and it said something about wicking away the sweat and I'd never heard 712 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:28.360 that term. Before, but I knew what it meant, you know, 713 00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.840 it was one of those things like, oh yeah, this makes sense in 714 00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:36.440 this context. So h nice, nicely done, thank you, all right, 715 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.920 I got one here. Okay, this is an event when a young 716 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:46.480 girl becomes a woman on an equinox or a solstice a subat mitzvah. I 717 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.480 like that. That's good that Bart breaks it in. So there you go. 718 00:59:51.679 --> 00:59:52.800 Yeah, there we go. We got us. Some got some puns 719 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:57.119 rolling out there for you, am, some puns them, some wicked wicken 720 00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:01.639 puns, wicked wickens. Dave, there's a there's one more sabot that I 721 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:05.840 think we should add to the old wheel. I agree. I agree. 722 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.880 It's a it's a pretty thorough incantation, but one that does need to be 723 01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.840 done regularly to respect the gods. Right. It's called listener. Man. 724 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.039 I feel so good to have mail back. Oh man, I'm so sorry 725 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:30.480 our mail just crapped out, and we honest September maybe we're just quiet self 726 01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:31.960 loaders, but we're like, okay, well, I guess yeah, because 727 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.280 nobody cares. We thought that people just weren't sending stuff. Yeah, it 728 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.000 turns out our mail was just going to a black hole that we're we're still 729 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:43.039 trying to get back, but I don't think we're going to get it back 730 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.920 at this point. I doubt it. So if you've set up a new 731 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:49.960 new system, if you sent us anything between I don't know, say like 732 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:54.679 September fifth in October first, sure, anything between those two days. If 733 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.480 you sent us something, will you please resend it? Because we love puns, 734 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.280 we love reading your stuff, and uh, the last thing we want 735 01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:05.880 is anyone to think that we got stuff that we didn't acknowledge, right, 736 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:10.559 I just thought we were suddenly unimportant to you for a mom So we've we've 737 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.639 we've since fixed it. So now we get all of all of our emails. 738 01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:19.159 But and you even get a success message now when when you sent afore 739 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:24.360 proving that it worked. So let's let's start out actually with a Facebook message 740 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:30.280 that let's go to Facebook. This is something that that I dropped the ball 741 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.920 on. I owed this back from early in September and totally dropped the ball 742 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:40.239 on it. But we got some cool trivia from our listener Matt oh Yeah, 743 01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:45.920 who has some trivia from the Shadow People episode. Loved that episode. 744 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.679 He says, in the late nineteen sixties before the band Black Sabbath was known 745 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.639 as Black Sabbath, they were a blues rock band that went by the name 746 01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:59.280 Earth. While they were still called Earth, their drummer Geezer Butler claims he 747 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.880 awoke one night to find a black figure standing at the foot of his bed 748 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:06.679 staring at him, and when he got up to confront it, it disappeared. 749 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.360 Later after he told singer Ozzy Osbourne his story, the two decided to 750 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.840 write a song about it, and they named this song they wrote Black Sabbath, 751 01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:17.480 eventually taking the name for the band as well. I gotta tell you 752 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:22.000 that story had me at a British dude named Geezer. I love that. 753 01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:25.320 That's awesome. Yeah, isn't that cool? A cool bit of trivia. 754 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:30.039 Thanks Matt for saying that's that's awesome. Your metal cred is legit. It's 755 01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:36.719 sterling. Ozzy is creeping his way into many episodes for us. If he 756 01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:44.719 was here right now, he'd say I was, and and he'd mean it 757 01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.320 and you deserve it, and we would not and say, yes, you 758 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:51.960 deserve it. We got a lot of cool information from our friend Jeff. 759 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:58.280 Yeah, yeah, he uh has some amazing stories about his family in the 760 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.880 Philippines. Uh, and stories that his grandmother told them. Uh, it 761 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:06.039 turns out that Oswong's asswangs. However you like it, I think I've made 762 01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.760 my choice clear. Uh, that that they they congregate, that they that 763 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:14.639 they they form small groups, that they have a leadership structure. Uh, 764 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:19.400 it's it's fascinating. Among the cool things that we learned, there's whole villages 765 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:23.880 that transform into ass wings, and the first one to transform is called the 766 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:30.960 monogol. I hope I'm saying that or uh Menal maybe Menanagal. I think 767 01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.480 no, no, no, no, no, I think it's Menanagal. 768 01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:42.360 But uh, he would sever himself or herself at the hips. Um one 769 01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.280 cool ways that you can actually kill this guy by salting the bottom half so 770 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:51.880 that they can't reattach makes sense. But this guy, uh, this particular 771 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.840 asswang feeds upon fetuses, so it would it would kind of clots way up 772 01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:01.800 houses and um use its tongue to kind of burrow into a pregnant woman's stomach. 773 01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:06.199 Boh wow, Yeah, that's that's pretty messed up stuff. That's that's 774 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:12.360 spooky. And and so it's this this really interesting story where these people are 775 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:16.079 fleeing from the monomagal. The guy cuts the monomagal's tongue off so it can't 776 01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:20.079 feed on his wife's stomach. They flee. They try to hide in a 777 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.480 house. It's not going to be strong enough to keep the aswangs out. 778 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.119 They keep running, and then they hear a crying in the woods, and 779 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.639 the woman, being pregnant particularly susceptible to the sound of a crying child, 780 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.199 said no, we can't leave a baby in the woods. Oh, bad 781 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:38.239 news. Not a baby. It's a chanak. Oh, it's a it's 782 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:43.159 another kind of a changeling that will lure travelers away. And it kind of 783 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:47.199 turns into a little demon that the skin turns black. Oh, man, 784 01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:51.480 And so you just have to to They just end up hiding until the sun 785 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:55.920 rises. Man, with a long, crappy night. That's an awesome story, 786 01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:59.239 Thank you, Jeff. Yeah and yeah so and he also mean he 787 01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:02.920 hits us up with all the a couple of the other kinds of asswangs and 788 01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:10.199 black magic that is still practiced to this day in the Philippines. His grandma 789 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.159 sounds like she's pretty got a lot of cool story. Yes, you should 790 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:17.920 get her on here. She's seen some ship man, yea, she really 791 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:24.519 has. Jeff also says that he was apparently victimized by a white lady, 792 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.159 which is a type of haunting. When he was little, he used to 793 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.239 sleep talk and would freak out his mom, and so they went to a 794 01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:35.079 shaman to see what was going on. The shaman had a bowl of oil, 795 01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:39.239 dripped a white candle over it and it formed into the shape of a 796 01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:45.159 woman. That's that's pretty uh yeah and spooky. The candle also didn't burn 797 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.440 black, which that signified the color of the haunting that was going on. 798 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.760 So he gave Jeff a coin which was dipped in the same oil, told 799 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.800 him to tie it into his shirt with a rubber band before going to sleep, 800 01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.559 and Jeff said it worked. He said he stopped sleep talking same night, 801 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.159 and I guess he wasn't haunted from then on. See, And that's 802 01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:08.840 fascinating, Like the so often that these uh these full gramedies shamanistic things they 803 01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.199 work. Yeah, should they should do more research on that man. And 804 01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:18.039 apparently that wasn't the only uh shamanistic encounter that that worked for Jeff and his 805 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.320 family, because he said back in two thousand and seven, back to his 806 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:30.320 Grandma was acting strange and tick bang, she was actually a wicker person. 807 01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.079 It's right. She was acting a little strange, but went to a shaman 808 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:39.800 to see if if he could help. Next day apparently was completely back to 809 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.320 normal, sorted her ride out. Yeah. So, uh, it's really 810 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:48.840 interesting what this folk magic can do for you. I think science would argue 811 01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:54.440 that it is mind over matter. Yeah. Uh, and and of course 812 01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.719 there's an argument to be made with that. But in the end, if 813 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.159 it works, if works, yeah, you know, right, yeah, 814 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.760 yeah, there's a point of like, screw it, moving on, moving 815 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:11.360 on, Let's let's go kill some ass wings. Get the salt. That's 816 01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:15.119 that's very awesome, Jeff, thank you for sharing those with us. It's 817 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:19.280 a lot of cool information. The Filipino folklore is is just chalk full of 818 01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:24.559 cool stuff. It really is cool. Sticko, what else we got in 819 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:29.199 the bag? We got we got something from our friend Bob Peyton ball. 820 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.599 Uh. He says, how about this as an answer to the black eyed 821 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:36.960 kids phenomenon, it's an alien drinking game. You know, a couple aliens 822 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:44.320 are sitting around drinking anti freeze or whatever. One that's why they come here. 823 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.159 One alien says the other I bet you can get that lady in that 824 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.239 house to let you in, and the other alien says, I bet I 825 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.639 can. And to make sure you believe me, you can come along and 826 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:56.360 hang out behind me, just kind of keep your head down and let me 827 01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.599 do all the talking. Then they both decide that if they get in, 828 01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:06.440 then it's anal probes and springhill Jack's laps for everyone. I think that is 829 01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:11.719 as probably an explanation as any other out there. Oh, oh, get 830 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:18.000 bob, best possible explanation ever. It's actually great because, yeah, I 831 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:21.399 love the thought because they're just doing it to f with us, you know. 832 01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.159 Oh. He even sets up that there's the creepy kid in the back 833 01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:33.000 who does well, he's just making sure it all happens. Oh that's awesome, 834 01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:36.520 great, awesome, Thank you Bob. That's that's a great explanation. 835 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:40.279 What do you got, Flora, Well, I'll tell you what we've got. 836 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.680 We've got a lot since this new system went in, and since we 837 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:45.319 have to catch up on stuff, we're not going to get to everyone this 838 01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.640 week, but rest assured we were working through all of them in the next 839 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:55.279 week or two. Oh man, I've got something fascinating. Yeah, from 840 01:08:55.359 --> 01:09:02.520 our friend gray Cat, fancy feast, Fancy Gray Cat has hoisted us on 841 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:08.720 our own petard quite thoroughly, it turns out, and he's right that a 842 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.279 year ago when we recorded our episode about which, as we said, whoever 843 01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.880 came up with a name for a month of October shows would be named the 844 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:19.119 King of Halloween. Oh well, and he came up with Blurry for October, 845 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:24.520 and so the coronation has become. Yeah, the coronation has become And 846 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.359 it's true. You were going to get your very own, one of a 847 01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:30.439 kind MS paint certificate that only you get. No one else will ever get 848 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:36.239 this. There's no one else who will ever get this unique twenty thirteen edition 849 01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:42.560 King of Halloween Certificate. Hail to the King, Baby m TC, baby 850 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:46.760 Mama, So well done in congratulations, gray Cat, You've earned it a 851 01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:50.279 year later. And you know what, it's because he was doing the research. 852 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:57.359 He was digging to the old episodes, picking up nuggets. I thought 853 01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:03.399 that was liter How about slinking through the back alleys, great cats Catta wallen 854 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:09.439 Ah nice um. One thing that you need to know about the MS paint 855 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:15.560 certificate process, anyone of our listeners who has received one of these could tell 856 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:19.159 you that they may not necessarily be the most timely things you'll ever receive, 857 01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:24.800 but you will receive it before October draws to a close. Because it just 858 01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:27.520 takes me a while. It's I don't even have a good reason. It 859 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.840 just takes a while. Dave. I've got some bad news though. What's 860 01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:38.079 that great cat is so meticulous in researching. I can't see how that could 861 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.960 possibly bite me directly on the ass. Well, tell me more, fancy 862 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.960 feast has put you in the penalty box. What Here's what was brought up. 863 01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:48.880 Here's here's what's coming up before the judge. Here in the episode on 864 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:55.439 reptilians, Stecco said, the kraken was a reptile. According to my seconds 865 01:10:55.479 --> 01:11:00.239 long Google search, it was a sea monster, which was probably a cephalopod 866 01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.359 of some sort. Oh, oh, I'm going to the penalty to box. 867 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.039 Excuse me? May it please the court? Yeah? Objection, your 868 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.560 honor? No, you got to start with me. It please the court? 869 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.039 Yeah? If it please the court, your honor, than I'd like 870 01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:17.760 to approach the bench, sidebar, sidebar. I think I can argue this 871 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:19.439 in a court a lot. But you know what, I'm not gonna I'm 872 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:26.239 not gonna waste the court's time here because wasting it now, I mean Decco, 873 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:30.560 my marine herpetology is pretty tight, and uh I knows me my cephalopods 874 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.079 when I see them. But but it's you know what, you know what, 875 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:38.560 I'm gonna agree. I'm gonna agree with Craig Hat. Every cracking that's 876 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:43.439 that has been seen except for the Harry Hamlin one. That was the only 877 01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.720 cracking I was referring to the only one I've ever seen. Every cracking out 878 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:53.279 there looks like some sort of giant, disgusting octopus type thing. I mean, 879 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:57.119 I not even a squid. Like I'm gonna clash the Titans man original 880 01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.640 style. Thank you very much, Harry. I was very upset the crack 881 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:02.600 and looked like that in the original Clash of the time. Where are you? 882 01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.439 I was impressed. It was an awesome toy. Also, my friend 883 01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:11.079 across the street had it. It was really great. Because it's fine, 884 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.159 I will take it, and I'll tell you why, because not only have 885 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.039 I been taken to the mat by Great Hat, I've been knocked on my 886 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:24.359 fanny by a listener named Annie. Please do the rest of the podcast and 887 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:28.520 Ryan rhyming couplets. I would love to do it and rhyme, but we 888 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:32.840 do not have the time. No, Okay, rhyming is over now. 889 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:42.560 Uh no, because Annie has taken me to task, apparently for incorrectly quoting 890 01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:46.600 my Fair Lady, which is really galling for two reasons. One, I 891 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:51.960 love my fair Lady too, I'm almost guaranteed to have died up. I 892 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:56.600 don't even remember the quote to which he refers, but I know me, 893 01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:00.279 and accurate quoting is not in my lex It's not a thing I'm good with. 894 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:08.279 So that's two convictions. But I'm gonna serve concurrent sentences in the penalty 895 01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:11.359 box. Oh man, Well, I'll tell you what. While you head 896 01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:14.840 to the penalty box there, I'm just gonna let everybody know. We've got 897 01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:18.159 more listener mail from you guys, but we're getting a little along in a 898 01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:23.239 tooth on this one, so we're gonna cut it down here. We'll get 899 01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:27.760 to your guys next week. Please keep sending them in, though we are 900 01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:31.960 getting them once again, thankfully, and we'll get to more from Gray Cat. 901 01:13:32.319 --> 01:13:36.239 We'll get to one from my mom. My mom sent one in, 902 01:13:38.199 --> 01:13:42.560 and then we'll get one from new listener Lisa. Hey, Lisa, Hey, 903 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:47.239 Lisa. So next week look for your mail coming through. Thanks for 904 01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:50.279 sending those. Sorry we couldn't get to them this week, but we will 905 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:56.119 get to them. Sorry, ma'am all right, So Stecco, are you 906 01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:00.319 in the penalty box? I am great. You will be reading a scene 907 01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:06.840 from the movie when Harry met Sally, So when you are ready, there's 908 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:12.680 the horn you can begin. Just to be specific, I'm just stepping my 909 01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.279 head out of the penalty box for a second. This is the final scene, 910 01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:17.520 the big romantic final scene of the movie. It's a lot of a 911 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:21.479 lot of heart in here. Okay, here we go. I love that 912 01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:26.119 you get cold when it's seven to anyone degrees out. I love that it 913 01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:29.319 takes you in an hour and a half to order a sandwich. I love 914 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.399 that you get a little critical above your nose and you're looking for them in 915 01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.640 the like I'm nuts. I love that you after I spend the day with 916 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:41.199 you, I can still smell your perfect mamma clothes. And I love that 917 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:44.680 you're the last person I want to talk to you before I go to sleep 918 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:48.520 at night. And it's not because I'm lonely and it's not because as New 919 01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.560 Year's Eve, I came here tonight because when you realize that you want to 920 01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:57.560 spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your 921 01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:03.359 life to start as soon as possible. Q applause, Well done, Well 922 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:08.880 done, you may come out of the penalty box now. Thanks for playing 923 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:14.279 along. That was great. 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Be the first for this episode of Blurry Photos, the 933 01:15:55.640 --> 01:16:02.000 second of Blurry Photo. I'm David the Wicked, Wicked Stecco, and I'm 934 01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:08.560 David Skyclad Flora. Oh nice, nice, blissed. Bye,