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Hello everyone welcome hear if you come
today Efra Baby or because it was already

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here and the machine came out voted
it, but right now don' t

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be too late to return welcome to
Doctor anel Hello. How about good evening,

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good evening, how it' s
nice to be here again all together

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to reflect, to discuss, to
think, ok hear Today is twenty-

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thirty- thirty- thirty. There
she is now of Sister Baby and already

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arrived welcome from Fra Bab I'
m already telling her that now you came

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merculo and retrogran in leo already.
Please calm down aja.“ Yes,

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” Kifa says,“ what a
barbarity” I thought there would be no

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show. I hadn' t announced
it. You' re absolutely right.

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It took me a long time to
announce it. I didn' t have

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the cover ready anyway, so I' m offering you an apology for not

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announcing it earlier. I' m
gonna hurry up for tomorrow, get it

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ready at a better time. I
promise. I' m going to hurry

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up in the morning and arm it
and I' ll leave it ready that

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early. Welcome all those who are
members of the channel, thank you for

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being here, those who are subscribers
of the channel, of course, and

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all those who are passing by also
welcome and hopefully subscribe. We' re

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almost 20, 000 or wow,
what a moi they are and thanks to

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those on podcast platforms. I didn' t bring any water, I'

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m going home, but, hey
tell me, Ephraim, he' s

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going to say something, not to
throw a party. When we reached the

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twenty thousand lupitas, it was above
all the members know that, especially for

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the members. Okay, I totally
agree. We can do something special,

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a special program for members. And
you have to think about being proposed,

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being proposed, not yes, yes, saying that they gave the songs exactly,

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singing lupita and singing for members so
that monetis. Not because ah yes,

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yes, yes. It' s
good, then, of course,

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if it' s for members,
of course it monetizes with what it does

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us favor paying to make members,
of course, we could already play music

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less than hairstyles. She tells me
today that I was in the wagons,

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but tomorrow, because it rains,
it rains and I have to go to

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the races, I had to go
buy the food cooper and go up and

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down and do things but they saw, they didn' t serve the good.

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I don' t think they'
ve seen the cover so much in

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time. So I' m sorry. Well, from Irina to Marifer,

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to Angela, to Shane, so
we' ve already done a show here

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for how long the grades last,
how long a little scandal lasts. Then

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I believe that now, because Marifer
must say Blessed be God, Angel Aguilar,

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I love her, I love her. Irina also says Blessed be God

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Marifer, blessed Marifer, and so
on. And so on. And right

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now, of course, everyone should
thank Shanick a little bit. But,

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Shannick isn' t talking about Angel
Aguilar, because he' s inside the

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celebrity house. But if I was
out, I' d be talking about

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it. No, and it seems
to me that this is how these notes

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become scandalous. They' ve always
put me to think because they decolonize,

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decolonize the protagonist, right now I
put pure women, because in reality they

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have been much more affected, guilty
or not. He' s guilty or

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not, but he' s been
considerably more affected by women. In the

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case of Irina Baeva has been attacked
by the play, but because of the

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romance, but because the husband dropped
her to I don' t know what.

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Well, yesterday to Dean and Gabriel
Soto, there' s no more

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a scrape, no more eagle angel. That' s how well he'

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s been at the fair and low
husband. If there you have to tell

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her to dad almost with the shotgun
back the house and so on, and

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him, then the big nodal.
Not good, it has rained, but

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not just Ephraim. But it is
that, besides, even if they are

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angry that they get angry. It
does have to do with a patriarchal sexist

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system. That is, women are
judged much more and they have the stigma

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left. Men. A man'
s honor is too fast. It'

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s too fast, I mean,
sometimes you don' t even see it

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' s a bad thing. And
with women, it' s a hope

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that they' re so perfect,
I mean, that they all do.

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Very well that a mistake turns because
with Angela' s, the memes are

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all in Angela, with and Irina
the same and the two, the two

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are past exactly. Men. There' s no memes for them. There

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' s no memes for them.
He doesn' t look like anyone.

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It didn' t happen to them, and it was no more. You

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have to tell him that barbarians are
right now like doñas de pica. What

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a sting he' s probably going
with the other one and the other one

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he' s going to get laid
on. Yeah, the only memes they

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' ve ever done to Nodal were
the ones they did to him for tattoos

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or because he was in a fashion
week and they said he didn' t

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pay much attention to people, that
is, for any other reason, they

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' ve become him, but not
because of this and in no way in

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the same proportion as she wasn'
t then. Yes, it is a

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social perception, very uneven, terrible
couple, because they know that girls with

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men is like funny what Luis ay
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know which one follows and with women, if it is completely violent So,

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it is to tear them apart and
really not angry. Yes, it has

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to do with a real sexist context, it has everything to see you.

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“ I totally agree with you,” says Alejandra,“ although women are

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guilty, machismo continues to prevail,
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the event. And yes, for
example, in the case of Nodal and

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Ángel Aguilar, I believe that the
blame is between the two, distributed in

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two. There, yes, Angel
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this man who was married, but
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was him. The married man was
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He was the one who lied weeks
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yes and the one who has done
the worst is Angel Aguilar and that also

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has to see maybe a little bit, not because yes, definitely, it

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is a question, as Ephraim says
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a social question or the perception about
what women should or can do and what

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men should be able to do,
what and what it is when you are

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more permissive to one and the other. But maybe it also influences a little

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bit I thought right now that women
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are just like me. I keep
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' t make much noise and nobody
says anything anymore. No, I mean,

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it' s a form that protects
itself, too, and women are

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sometimes or are more expressive. And
I say that because in the case of

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Irina, go nothing. Yes,
we already know that she was very expressive

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during her start of romance so that
she would know what Ephraim says, as

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long as he doesn' t forget. And, on the other hand,

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Angela and her famous one, I' m going to be a fan aunt

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of her relationship. Then I think
that' s where, that' s

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where you fish. I don'
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' re right, they talk,
but Gabriel Sotofo, Gabriel Soto, is

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the one who gets the press release. Gabriel is what we said yesterday about

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history in history, that' s
what we said, he' s the

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messenger, that is, they do
things that the other talk doesn' t

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take away guilt. He doesn'
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Angel is the one who has spoken
the least. It could be said and

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don' t give him the video, don' t mean and we don

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' t give or the video doesn' t give did the video scolding the

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audience how it was possible for a
granny of gossip, but gossipy bowls that

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means that it' s the one
you did that if Nodal hadn' t

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published those photos with Kazu bragging about
his daughter saying how happy he was like

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Dad saying that the little angel and
everything we hadn' t heard or seen

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this radical change. That' s
totally true of him, too. And

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the problem is that not if it' s not the fault of the one

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who sees it, nor the fault
of the one who says it, it

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' s the fault of the one
who does it, of course, because

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it' s not that I said
it either. Let' s all social

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media we' re going to agree
that angela doesn' t hit the platform.

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That doesn' t exist. That
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s not true, it' s
not real. Thank you very much,

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dear Sultana, thank you for bringing
so much kisses to everyone, kisses also

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there. Yeah, I mean,
and it doesn' t work, because

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that' s always the women they
throw at, the women they point at,

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but Belinda, but the first Nubia. I was seeing Nodal' s

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first Bride a while ago. Anyway, I mean, you know what this

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is made of Lupita that it is
and check it out with all peace and

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with a lot of love in Nodal' s gossip they dragged everyone else because

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they came back out of everyone else' s memories, that is, they

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don' t forget aha, that
is, there were fewer of those who

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laughed a lot about the stepmother was
a jewel, the one who put together

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the mothers of the pin tik Tok, where she was from Linda and the

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ex- girlfriend what Lupita says and
the ex- girlfriend what it is,

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it makes sure she doesn' t
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Indeed, when I say married Nodal, I don' t mean he went

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to church. I signed a paper. It' s indistinct to me.

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The commitment is with or without paper, with or without church. She was

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engaged to a woman who had a
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her and loved her very much.
It was a family, that is,

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it was a family regardless of whether
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so on. But of course,
he does wrong, like Gabriel Soto,

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that is, the fact that they
hide, they keep it simple. That

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doesn' t take away Gabriel Soto, because, to see, Irina va

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Eva fell in love with him and
whatever you want when he was married very

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badly from Irina, but Inera wasn' t leaving another relationship and they were

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basal. There was no other relationship. John went with him neither is he

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and he is then good. Oh, no, because he doesn' t

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say anything anymore, because don'
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it is a kind of strategy that
adds to the other aspects that we are

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saying no to the social question,
to, to the domination of this patriarchal

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culture that still wants at this point
in life, that women be as sanctified

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look. How paradoxical that this had
been claimed for centuries, centuries ago Sr

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Juana Inés de la Cruz, Not
when I said they ask the woman to

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be all that is man' s
fantasy and, at the same time,

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not this immaculate. And so,
yes, yes, that is the resounding

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of Sister John of the Cross,
men of Cius who do not know the

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woman and are right. Yes,
exactly yes, it is absurd, but

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anyway look here says pau that the
same women are the ones we throw at

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other women and it is real,
yes, pau but it is part of

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the same education, because they educated
you that men can not, that men

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can, that men are fine,
that men are not bad, since men

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never taught us that men had to
come virgins to marriage, which seemed to

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me the most archaic things that could
teach women the whole history of humanity.

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Because, moreover, that was,
like I think he became stale and fanatical

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already in the last, in the
twentieth century, because before, well,

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it wasn' t even simple imagine, there wasn' t even civil record

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that women were being robbed, that
it was the revolutions that for God'

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s sake. Then came this tradition
of virgin women. So, yeah,

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women talk bad, but because they' re educated for that so that the

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man doesn' t touch himself was
in this liminality in which the man lives,

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why he was going to start using
impomptu words so they' re not

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bothering me, because I know how
to use them, but I don'

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t like that something happens Women start
humiliating them and it makes you something normal,

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like you say, lupita. And
it was in the 20th century this

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thing that my mom tells me that
my mom from the stained sheet lived it

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as normal and that it once happened
to a neighbor of my mom. She

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tells my mother, who is thirty
years old in the village, that she

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stained our savannah and then the mole
broke, the casseroles were broken and the

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piece was finished and the chava was
skinned and marked for life. So in

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an anthropological hunt in this yes situation
that alerts me, I' m not

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going to let lie. That'
s tattooed, and then the women are

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marked. Then of course if someone
is wrong walking with Odal, because then

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the fool was belinda because she walked
with Odal, The fool was the new

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ex, because she walked with Odal. Women have to be very smart not

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to be married by these poor men
over them are men. That' s

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another phrase is that he' s
a man. It' s hear,

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because how you' re going to
ask her look here says something very interesting

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about angelica lawyer Madrid. I think
both Gabriel and Nodal have not demonstrated to

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defend their women at any time either. You' re absolutely right, I

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mean, they leave them unprotected.
Yeah, I mean, Rodal hasn'

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t gone out to say, hey, leave Angela alone or anything, nothing

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or real happy life. He happy
of life Angel In fact, he has

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not mentioned Nodal' s daughter that
he once thought he had. I'

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m gonna be the aunt and I' m the uncle hears And I mean,

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it' s not like she won
anymore, it' s just that

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angels don' t give one after
him. I already won a prize that

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wasn' t even there. It
was a recording for the awards. I

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don' t know if youth or
what prize it will be. But he

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didn' t even win the prize. He didn' t even win the

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prize, but he recorded the video
to annoy. Or something that' s

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even worse is the misogynistic conduct lupita, because then the great male ay how

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sad what I' m saying.
He becomes the trophy so he doesn'

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t give anymore is a trophy or
don' t give a trophy to God,

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no, Holy no, and he
happy of life, he happy forget

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you. He' s the hottie
for him, he' s the hottie,

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he' s the hottie. Yesterday
I pointed out between the pictures they

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told me and what it has to
do with it. Well in history,

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in history, I pointed out Nodal' s displicence at his wedding, that

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is, and he smokes and walks
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it' s like, you'
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that' s her hugged, and
he just hangs around his neck with one

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as he forgives lives, no,
but there' s the one they tell

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is her and they don' t
tell him. In the good case of

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Marifer Center, I don' t
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it' s a professional thing.
It has nothing to do with his

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person, but he' s messed
with his person, I mean, I

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understand he watered it. Thank you, Alexandra. Thank you very much to

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Alejandra Sierra. I understand that Mariel
did wrong, that he did wrong in

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the matter of saying that neuroscience and
everything that is to be exposed by the

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Mir Doctor goes. I totally agree
and 100% agree. But what I

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don' t agree with is the
personal attack. Why I start, why

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Marifer' s person because meddling with
the husband, as Gala' s mom

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told him, I' m going
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her husband, her family, her
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I believe that the two things always
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are finished or that the specific arguments
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and when it turns to personal ones
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s why and many times there'
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that' s something already yours,
of hurting because you do have something with

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this person that' s known to
you in some way or because you project

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something about yourself or someone else who
hurt you, that is, to turn

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the personal, because you already have
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But also, because I say to
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lack of arguments on the issue that
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in agreement it lacks any Ephraim.
And that' s it and look at

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me and it' s also real
with the women they go more to the

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question of the personal, that is, when they have a mistake they are

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thoroughly checked in a social X-
ray where we' re going to see

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how it is physically we' re
going to see how it behaves with their

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family, we' re going to
see what' s going on with their

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social, economic, really, it' s a thing that they don'

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t get angry and if it'
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say a stellar thing for other women, because regularly who educates us is an

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exact mom and it' s wrong, and if you have to work on

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it, it gives me a lot
of laughter. Girls, I don'

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t know if it' s for
you when you come to scold us,

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because let' s talk about people. It' s an opinion program,

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if not what we think. Besides, we think of what they let see

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then that' s what I mean
Look at you just nailed it. They

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think of what they put on the
screen, of what they put on this

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black screen as of this wonderful series
called Black Miter, because everything that is

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put on this black mater on television, on the phone, on your laptop,

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on your iPad, wherever, in
a magazine where you declare it,

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because you think about what they themselves
express. There are many celebrities who don

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' t think about it because they
don' t say anything and it'

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s okay, they keep their privacy
and it' s perfect. But there

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are those who do, who do
speak and who expose it and who do

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so to talk about them not exactly
then. But I think we have to

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stick to that and sometimes I see
that they kind of climb a little bit,

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warm their spirits and then they start
talking about things that have nothing to

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do with Marifer' s personality.
What would you have to do with your

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relationship with your husband? What'
s that got to do with anything?

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What' s it got to do
with her and her mom? They'

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re the ones at school. She
and her mom are the ones who have

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given the courses. She' s
the one who' s the lawyer,

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and she' s the one who
gives the face to her husband. Not

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because it' s a clear marriage. And also, here the discussion has

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been and that indeed started Mr Doctor
and we have taken her back many people,

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which is very interesting. It is
very interesting to have an accurate opinion

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and it has been on those specific
issues. I' ve been personal since

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the minute one said. She points
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No, it' s not.
She talks about being in the field

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of neurosciences. It' s not
like that. That is what we have

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been talking about, that she has
signed, that she has said that through

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writing you can cure anxiety. Not
so, anxiety is a disorder and it

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is a very serious thing that with
writing you can lose weight. Already Efray

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explained very widely the factors that infer
a problem of overweight or a disorder of

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eating behavior in general. All that
can lead to that is what we'

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ve always been talking about, not
other situations, everything she' s about.

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But sometimes the public gets on it
and I say to the general public

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and maybe and I consider myself public
and so on, but on social networks

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it looks a lot and they attack
in a direct way that would have nothing

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to do with it, that would
have nothing to do with it. There

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is one comment that I have seen
with a certain recurrence, which is good,

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but she does mess with the other
people, that is, why then

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one would not mess with her,
for I repeat what topic or it is

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of her I rather think that she
gets involved I would say she thinks the

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same. She thinks of people through
that body language and lyrics and I don

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' t know what she thinks of
other people. She also thinks when those

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people make their videos or appear in
interviews or on carpets or publicly, and

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that' s what she thinks in
the same way that we think about what

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she has thought or what she has
wrongly signed. And that' s what

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I mean by messing with, I
don' t know, I don'

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t know how much. Honestly,
I don' t know how much.

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She' s gotten into things that
she' s done. See, he

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did, because, for example,
I remember when I barely met Marifer who

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was gobbling and today the signature I
remember was a governor. And it'

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s not like that gentleman likes to
be a kid on the cliff. That

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' s getting you into your life, personal life, since when he also

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said to me it makes me that
Adela Mitch is in love with me,

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that' s also getting you into
a field that doesn' t belong to

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you. Of course, the fact
that a person does something doesn' t

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mean that you do it because then
you' re going to be the same

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person that she is and that'
s what you' re criticizing. Then

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I can do it. I mean, I' m against Marifer talking and

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saying this, but I' m
going to do it because she does it,

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because no, because then you become
the same person that you' re

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criticizing and then it' s no
longer valid either one or not one.

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If I was just thinking that the
answer to that question if she messes with

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others, then we should not mess
with her, because yes, the answer

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is that not also to me look
what a brown master says here to you,

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even to you. He' s
touched you. I don' t

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think you should look at my private
life as well as lies, because he

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' s told a lot of lies, but people don' t know.

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The other day I wrote to someone, not the guy. This one told

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us that you were like this and
we all believe it, because it'

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s not stupid. I mean,
it' s stupid, but you know

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you pee and that' s about
the other age thing, because I fight

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a lot on Facebook and Twitter.
I' m not fascinated by getting in

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there is being fought by my hobby
every morning, four in the morning and

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it was driving in res and then
all the time it' s aye yeah,

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pinch the hotto, pinch the faggot, that is, aha and then

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I tell them, because already you
don' t have at some exact time.

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Sure, sure, sure, Mira
says they' re famous. It

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' s the price of fame that
you can stand. A special greeting to

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you, ladies and gentlemen, I
very much like your programme. Thank you

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Red Viral, because Mary fer is
publishing her videos. It just doesn'

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t affect him. There are others
who run away because they know they'

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re hurting and it' s just
that look at this famous thing, hold

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on. If I agree on the
part that you bring that out, you

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invite a camera to go to your
wedding on your honeymoon, to the first

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communion you tell him about the lawsuit
you had with Juanito, with Juanita,

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with your wife, with your son, you call the media to give press

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conferences if you' re going to
change your house. Ah well, then

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you have all the reasons for what
you' re looking for. No,

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but if something comes up like Marifer' s, I insist, I mean,

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I haven' t heard at least
me, at least I' m

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not short, I answer you don' t have to do spam to tell

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me something. Let me erase this
good, I haven' t used it

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for myself I' ve heard at
least Mr Doctor get into Marifer' s

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personal life. I personally haven'
t heard it. Yes, I think

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he' s been very punctual in
bringing to light things that he disagrees with,

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like getting into areas that don'
t belong to him, that are

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psychotherapy, nutrition to me. I' d think pedagogy looks at Lenny Lenny

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' s R. SD says lupita. Please, sir. Congruent. You

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do the same with the little man. Little man goes with c but I

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don' t do with the little
man. I refer to this man as

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the little man, because he is
a very small person of spirit soul.

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I don' t care about his
physique, but he lied. I refer

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to him derogatoryly because for me he
deserves it, because he has told lies

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about me I never in life and
please take out my video where I have

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referred to the private life of this
character. I don' t know who

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his wife is or who his children
are, and I would never mess with

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it. I' ve never been
in his private life before. He never

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got mad, because I told him
for years. More than three years ago,

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when it was the sophria frid and
Alejandra Guzmán, he was immoral because

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against putting a family that was already
wrong and using it to make it even

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worse and then causing what caused a
wound for a lifetime, because that was

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because he gave one voice to blame
the other and the other for the other

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and destroyed the little and fragile relationship
that there was and I told him that

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he was an immoral. That'
s where he hung up to get into

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my life, in my life telling
lies. So don' t, Lenny,

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I don' t know if they
sent you out of there or they

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told you anything, but don'
t put words in my mouth, because

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I' ve never messed with that
character I don' t know about his

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private life and I don' t
care. But let' s move on

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to what another subject, which is
yesterday' s one, we raised at

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the Olympics, the opening, and
with you I didn' t talk about

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it. I want to see your
point of view, because, Ahorita,

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I' m going to tell you
everything you wrote to me on Twitter or

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what you wrote to me there in
the history program, in history, but

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to see what you thought, Dr
Amel, about the Olympics and the opening

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in general, in general as a
show and everything else look at it,

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well what I tell you when you
have an open attitude, it seems to

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me or when people have an attitude
open to a tradition that has already been

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called for so many years, it
is known as the Olympic Games of the

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modern era, not because we already
know that they have this antecedent of the

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Greeks and others. But this is
modern games. And when you have this,

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when people have this vision of hearing, what a father in a world

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that there are wars everywhere, that
we have just gone through a terrible pandemic,

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that so many terrible things happen,
like that this generates enthusiasm and generates

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in many of us a certain passion
to see how they are going to do

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it, who is going to be, is going to be the language that

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is going to sing. Again after
we have seen him suffer in his documentary,

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talking about the tremendous illness he has
and the French, who have a

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tradition of art history of so many
years that they are going to present us

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and so on, then I think
going with that look somehow puts you in

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such a receptive and positive mood that
you don' t get into the head

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a lot of things like the ones
that came up later. As for criticisms,

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and today it seems to me that
criticisms are also placed on the fact

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that there have been some answers that
want to calm those moods that were touched

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by interpretation or by what they think
it is very clear that it was presented

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there as disrespect for certain ideologies,
as transgressions and so on. So,

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what I was thinking is when you
talk about if I' m at a

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dinner party that' s not,
that' s not the bacchus banquet and

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that' s not, but it' s the last scene. I only

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thought and spoke today with a very
intelligent person about that which, regardless of

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the beliefs that everyone has, the
last scene itself is a picture, It

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is a picture that Leonardo da Vinci
painted, which, according to what is

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known in the biographies of Leonardo da
Vinci, because he was not only a

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great artist, but he was a
man who enjoyed life, who liked to

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have patrons and then win very well, unlike Michelangelo, who was a tormented

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artist, that is, he was
someone who did and who did many works

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for taste, others on request,
but he was an artist who painted a

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painting. But to see me I
but not the painting, i e the

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performance, not even the last scene. That' s why he keeps saying

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yes, that we don' t
become fools and that' s what'

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00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.480
s useful. But even if I
did, that' s what I'

414
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:22.359
m going to do. It is
a picture that is the clear non-

415
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.799
faith of people, the beliefs of
people. It looks like me and it

416
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.160
' s an absolutely personal opinion,
like anyone who could give me the truth.

417
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.519
But with all due respect for love
and all peace in the world,

418
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.200
it seems to me, and we
once talked about it here against peace,

419
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.480
that spirituality is something that is carried
within one and that is lived from what

420
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.559
the person feels and how he expresses
it and how it moves. And if

421
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:52.880
any ideology adheres, if any church
adheres properly, said is also very well.

422
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.359
But this is a painting. If
it was the last scene, I

423
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.279
' m telling you now, it' s a painting. But look,

424
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.279
for example, says bero Falcon.
He says it' s okay, but

425
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.039
let' s remember that Islam is
superior, the number to Christianity. Why

426
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.400
don' t you fuck that religion
look,' cause I' m gonna

427
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:14.640
tell you one thing to see or
falcon. The Olympic Games were not invented

428
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:22.319
by Arabs or those who profess Islam. The Olympic Games were invented by the

429
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:27.519
Greeks. The representation was of the
Greek gods, of the Mysterical feasts,

430
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:36.839
of the worship of Dionysus, these
Dionysian feasts and are Greek. You mean

431
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.519
Greek classics. Why they do not
touch Islam, because Islam has absolutely nothing

432
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:47.920
to do with the Olympics. Nothing
goes They haven' t even proposed a

433
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:52.839
sport. I mean, why shouldn' t I mention them. Don'

434
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.880
t look at me I know I
do. I got very sarcastic about the

435
00:30:55.960 --> 00:31:00.319
subject, because if I told them
we did not already see that in their

436
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.759
room, in the room of their
house, they have the last dinner because

437
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:08.079
it is the picture that, par
excellence, is in the Mexican Catholic homes

438
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.759
and in Latin America. Then the
whole last sign and it' s your

439
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.480
reference, how sad that it'
s your only reference. But there'

440
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.880
s more to art and they weren' t making the point of the last

441
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:26.359
scene. And someone had the right
to answer. Not my very creamy grilled

442
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.920
carla Gutierrez gives me your reference.
It' s a painting, our reference.

443
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.960
It' s theological. They ask
for respect, respect that basically,

444
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:40.240
and I answered her heartily, baby
of light, my love. I can

445
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.240
' t be angry because someone'
s offending someone who looks like me,

446
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.359
is that they offended someone who knows
not if it wasn' t, it

447
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.519
wasn' t and you can'
t do that. I mean, there

448
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.640
' s no way that if it' s already made clear it wasn'

449
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.559
t, you' re the one. Now I' m going to tell

450
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:01.519
you something with your a pas to
me, Ephraim, I said it here

451
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.640
on the program The drag doesn'
t fascinate me. I don' t

452
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.079
love it and you' re gay
and I don' t love the drag

453
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.839
They might have said I didn'
t like the drag No, I liked

454
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.559
the wardrobe. That, but alluding
to the subject of the last scene,

455
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.799
when I don' t even think
about it, is that they really want

456
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.920
to fight. Yeah, the truth
is, you know what it' s

457
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.319
like to look like three feet to
the cat, and so on. Indeed,

458
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:34.279
there are many other things. The
rider who says he was the one

459
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.920
of the Apocalypse satan, no,
no, no, he' s an

460
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.240
arched juana. Here he is telling
us Deli soul and he sent me right

461
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:45.440
now my dearest love to make it
Robinson on Twitter. All this explanation of

462
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.240
everything that was done in the Olympics
and it' s okay and there was

463
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.599
a lot of dignification to women and
that' s the story. Now I

464
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:59.799
' m not going into the discussion. Right now, if it' s

465
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.079
right or wrong, if it was
the painting, if not, if it

466
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.000
' s an abu. What I
mean is the inalienable right that everyone has

467
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:12.319
to say and think how they want
it and not because I mean, you

468
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:19.880
can profess the religion that you want
or not. But they wrote things to

469
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.200
me as clear, as it appears
that you are not a believer in how

470
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.519
they go about how they know that
I am not a believer to profess or

471
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:29.759
not. A religion does not imply
that you believe or not. It has

472
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.240
nothing to do with religion to believe. You can believe it without professing or

473
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.200
practicing a religion. Forgive me for
that. But there are many forms of

474
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.559
expression of Christianity. If I were
a Lutheran Protestant she founded for this respectable

475
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.519
Church of Martin Luther, for even
less would I be impressed by any image

476
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:53.680
or icon. You' ve been
to a Protestant pantheon. There is not

477
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:59.680
a single image, neither one nor
one, neither one nor one symbol.

478
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:06.720
Such are Protestant pantheons, because then
everyone has the right to believe. You

479
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.559
have the right to believe or not
to believe. You have the right to

480
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.000
express what you believe or not to
express it. What you have no right

481
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.159
to do is insult the other because
you don' t believe it. I

482
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:16.679
' m going to put a topic
out of this and I' m going

483
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:22.760
to give you the floor. I
Guadeloupe, I Guadeloupe. I' m

484
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.920
not in favor of abortion. Never
in my life have I practiced it,

485
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.239
practiced it, practiced it, practiced
it. I disagree, but I do

486
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:36.199
agree that there is another person or
other people who see it from another point

487
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.000
of view, who see it,
who consider it the soul, because,

488
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.840
then, that is one thing that
we still do not resolve. What time

489
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.960
is the soul? Within a being, at what time, yes, there

490
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.199
is life, but at what moment
the soul is. And I' m

491
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:52.119
not going to discuss that, because
there are people who will believe that from

492
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.000
the very moment of conception and bropsuck
as I think, but there will be

493
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.480
others. It' s up to
three months at last, but I respect

494
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.880
them. But I' m not
going to tell you stupid fools happy,

495
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.880
no no, and the fact that
it exists doesn' t mean we'

496
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.760
re all going to practice it.
But the fact that you think that picture

497
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.559
is very valid don' t see
it turn it off and it' s

498
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.239
over, but give others the right
to think how they want it. Give

499
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.880
others the right to say whatever they
want, because then we become absolutely authoritarian,

500
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:29.039
totalitarian, dictatorial, which is what
they are always fighting, is that

501
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.760
dictatorships are terrible, is that they
are thinking dictatorial in that way Ephraim and

502
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:44.079
not And it has to do with
this roll of generations. I mean,

503
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.400
I' m really laughing because I
was telling them, someone was complaining.

504
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.800
Oh, yes, the concrete generation
has already begun to cry with the theme

505
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:55.679
of the painting. No, that' s where they' re going again

506
00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.079
to mess with issues that have nothing
to do with it. I mean,

507
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.679
we could all think differently and with
all peace. I mean, you believe

508
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.880
in that painting, you love that
painting. You didn' t like what

509
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:13.119
happened what lupita did, Dad take
him off, turn around, make a

510
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.840
peaceful protest. Accept aside by turning
off the TV not to watch the Olympics.

511
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.119
I don' t know this time, but that' s why we

512
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.480
' re all gonna kill each other, and we' re gonna grow up

513
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:24.719
and insult each other because it'
s good for a few things. I

514
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.599
saw your threads, sulpitus said and
I hate so much that is, what

515
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.920
is this, no, why do
they get like that. Breathe a lot,

516
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:42.880
reflect and give yourself the opportunity to
listen to other criteria so that we

517
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:44.239
can all learn to the best.
It' s more than we think,

518
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.760
it' s very closed. We
realize that it has a point that is

519
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:52.199
very rescueable and that we can pull
it out. On this side, we

520
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:59.000
can make it this little girl.
He will pull it and make it think

521
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:01.440
differently but if we do not dare
to listen and from the beginning we close

522
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.440
ourselves. I' m already glad
that that' s exactly what happens to

523
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.480
see Mira vane Núñez says on twitter. I expressed my opinion to you,

524
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.079
but here' s another question.
To say that, by not agreeing with

525
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.960
you, we are ignorant or with
primal trunca, is not insult. I

526
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:22.360
told you. I said it,
I mentioned at some point the ignorant word

527
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.480
with truncal primary. I think you' re confused. The problem is that

528
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.440
' s it. They cover,
they put in, they keep a whole

529
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:30.039
sack and they cover them all the
same. And it' s not like

530
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.280
that. It' s not like
that, it' s not like that.

531
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:40.880
Mel does what I too would point
out or try to emphasize that you

532
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.719
have already said to you, but
that I think it would be the most

533
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:53.159
important and just right to think differently
is if the French organized this ceremony and

534
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:59.480
in it there was a series of
things that probably I don' t think

535
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.800
are what some people say and so
on, that' s my opinion and

536
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.639
the opinion of everyone, as Efray
just said, I think it' s

537
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.119
great what he said. If I
don' t agree with something, I

538
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:12.400
' ll stop seeing it and,
besides, if I think it' s

539
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.920
necessary to raise my voice, I
raise it with someone who would have to

540
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.079
raise it, as you say,
I make a peaceful protest. I join

541
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:23.280
some grouping that maybe you' re
already organizing right now to ask the French

542
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.400
committee to do. I don'
t know what, because besides, that

543
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.639
can no longer erase it, but
that you apologize more firmly or with more

544
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.880
although if you have removed the video
from this part of the video effectively,

545
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:38.119
but I don' t think they
have removed it because they don' t

546
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.719
agree. They' ve taken it
away because of the criticisms they' ve

547
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.920
received. Period. Uh- huh
Then stick to that. But why they

548
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.320
get angry with the next door,
with the neighbor next door, who can

549
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.440
be whoever he is and can be
I can be alien, he can'

550
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:55.440
t be the one, because he
doesn' t think like them. That

551
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.960
' s the thing, as you' re putting it on this table,

552
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.440
and that' s the thing and
it happened and it happens all the time,

553
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.480
when we' re in moments of
a lot of political ferment, when

554
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:12.639
there' s going to be elections, that is, instead of saying I

555
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.840
don' t agree with the proposals
of such a party or with the performance

556
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.199
of such a character that represents one
political tendency or another. Don' t

557
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.280
be angry with him next door,
so look. I think that, why

558
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.639
you get mad at him and not
the one who does. I mean,

559
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:29.960
if that' s what this is
about, and that' s why I

560
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:34.079
think that there' s the specific
point of I can respect your opinion,

561
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.639
disagree with it and act accordingly where
I have to do it and I can

562
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.679
' t be angry with the other. I loved that you said I'

563
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.039
m going to use Sunday words,
because I do, but I don'

564
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:46.559
t like it in front of me. Yes, because I already have another

565
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.360
age and another condition and besides,
because, well, I really like the

566
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.440
idea of you enriching your vocabulary and
I' m going to use this word.

567
00:39:53.519 --> 00:40:00.960
I just learned it on Sunday is
called phylodoxia. I like it so

568
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.880
much and that' s what'
s going on. I believe, on

569
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.440
these points of view. There is
an excess of phylodoxia, and phylodoxia is

570
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:14.000
to consider that one' s opinion, that is to say the phylodox is

571
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.000
the one who is in love with
his own opinion. Love of opinion and,

572
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.960
consequently, considers that all others should
share it. I mean, it

573
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:29.239
' s so good my opinion,
so accurate, so complete that everyone else

574
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:32.760
can' t say. Indeed,
they must be attached to mine and hear

575
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:38.719
no good. Note that for some
clarifications. I tell you this they tell

576
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.800
me here they' re being on
twitter is that they show up even the

577
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:45.840
minion that have nothing to do with
it. The creator of the minions is

578
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.760
French. If it has ben,
of course it had to do with it.

579
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.840
What you say is that a character
appeared in this performance. It'

580
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.840
s a broken average. Not part
of his physique. It' s one.

581
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.280
They come up and open the futa, they' ll see it'

582
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.519
s the average that' s broken. It' s nothing else. Anyway,

583
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.599
it was probably since draver says,
it was grotesque, not fit for

584
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.400
kids maybe, it' s not
a, it' s not a.

585
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.159
Visually it' s shocking. But
if you go to museums, you will

586
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:20.320
see things, if you are going
to see Michelangelo' s David that also

587
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.800
huge, huge, in extra divine
hands you will see an absolutely naked figure

588
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:30.239
wherever you look at it, where
you see it and like that. There

589
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:37.559
are many works and sculptures and paintings
and literature, and literature that has a

590
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:43.480
lot to do historically, but since
the Greek classics, it is not something

591
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.599
new, It is not something that
is new. But, well, that

592
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.159
' s one thing. He'
s here. It is clear that the

593
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.400
only intention was simply to put that
issue. I respect what you think and

594
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.800
if you didn' t like it, it' s also a lot very

595
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:02.599
respectable. What I don' t
think is that someone else should be pointed

596
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:06.440
out because he said he did like
it. I mean, I don'

597
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.599
t like action movies, because I
don' t see them anymore. I

598
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:14.199
don' t like them. I
hate them I don' t sleep,

599
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:16.119
I don' t sleep, I
don' t see them either. The

600
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:23.719
musical works give that nothing perque ta
no, no, no. The musicals

601
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.760
do, look at the picture.
I imagine it would' ve been ugly

602
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:30.840
opening if it had been such a
musical musical. Well, there were good

603
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.880
musicals. The truth. Imagine that
I, who am the number one lover

604
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.679
of the musicals Menel Countinity, Lupito
is that you don' t know anything

605
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:45.559
was lupita. No, no,
that' s nefarious, not exact,

606
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:49.880
exact, but indeed, it'
s not all about us or our opinion.

607
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.519
And everyone, the rest of the
world, has the right to say

608
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.519
something, to think and to see
things because in addition, we all see

609
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.960
it according to our experience, not
to the experience of others. Then maybe.

610
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:07.039
We see everything that is obscure that
they could see in one thing,

611
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.000
because perhaps it is because they have
some experience that refers to it, but

612
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:17.000
not necessarily. Everyone else must have
seen that reference forgiving, but that'

613
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.920
s not the truth. Same music. Not everyone reminds us the same thing,

614
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:29.119
for one reminds us one thing and
others maybe nothing. So he says

615
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.679
ay lupita, it' s not
the same thing. Don' t compare

616
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:36.400
Michelangelo' s art and who do
you think art and Whose? On whom

617
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:42.480
you think Michelangelo was inspired, if
not on the Greeks, because there is

618
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:49.119
a huge part in the Lube Museum
and another in many museums. There are

619
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many Greek sculptures in the British Museum
that inspire the Renaissance, the great Renaissance

620
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:04.840
artists look at themselves in the Greeks. Guillé in the Greeks. Precisely so

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00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.960
if you don' t compare Michelangelo' s art to the Greeks, you

622
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' re in serious error. That' s rebirth. That' s why

623
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he calls rebirth. That is precisely
why it is called rebirth, because it

624
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:22.599
is to retake the classics themselves.
Shakespeare is inspired by the Greeks. Anyway,

625
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:23.440
but, well, this isn'
t kind of like that. But

626
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no more. It' s about
that, seeing a little bit with me,

627
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:30.760
I' m not saying you have
to accept everything. Look, emfrada

628
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.199
says he doesn' t like the
dredging issue I don' t like it

629
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.239
either. I don' t like
that show either. I agree. But

630
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there are already them and they do
and I' m not going with him

631
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:45.039
and I won' t be with
them by now and maybe I won'

632
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.519
t go to a show ever.
But it is very respectable and its life

633
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.480
is very respectable and since we all
have a place in this world, something

634
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:59.519
that you want to add, dear
comrades, for that and that, besides,

635
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.440
look at this freedom to think different. There is even the idea of

636
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:09.000
passionately defending an idea and passionately rejecting
what one disagrees with. Of course it

637
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:15.199
does, but I insist there are
ways, there are spaces and there are

638
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:21.599
ways to do it, and not
disqualifying or getting angry with the one who

639
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.199
is telling you that he sees it
differently, that that is the problem and

640
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:29.199
that has caused many lawsuits and even
I would say, for almost some wars.

641
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:35.159
Not for that. Precisely then I
think that would be the reflection and

642
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.679
here I think that is the great
flag of this program and what we seek

643
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:46.079
in what you schedule to interact with
those who do us the enormous favor of

644
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.280
participating in the chat. Precisely from
that, not to disqualify the person or

645
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.559
his opinion, but to give each
one his own and always, to the

646
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.880
extent possible, with arguments and greetings, duly Mary, I already greeted you

647
00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:05.760
exactly Ephraim, and they know what
happens in this situation of passions and fanaticism

648
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:10.480
that when we omnibulate for an opinion
and we only think this and then that

649
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:16.519
is the only thing that exists.
We refuse to deconstruct, to learn new

650
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.599
things, to rebuild, to reinvent
and to be better, because then we

651
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:29.440
remain only in that reductive situation in
which we believe. And that brings us

652
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:32.039
to a lot of trouble because many
times and I' ve seen it with

653
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:34.920
a lot of people who are already
seeing that things aren' t like that.

654
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.480
But I, just for being right, is now a fighter. I

655
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:45.760
' m going to defend this,
although I think it' s wrong to

656
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:49.199
be careful with this, very careful
with that, yes, yes. It

657
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:53.239
' s good, because here things
have to be put like this and I

658
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:59.360
think that' s basically absolute respect
for thinking to everyone else. As long

659
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:04.039
as no crime is committed that I
don' t know I say here,

660
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.280
they mention advocacy of crime. I
don' t see it that way,

661
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.320
but well, it' s very
valid and they see it that way.

662
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:13.800
But I think the important thing is
and rescueable is that we have to respect

663
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:15.639
the opinion of others, their way
of thinking and their way of acting.

664
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:20.719
Well, go ahead and have a
look at him. Notice that the ilyate

665
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.320
is rather boring. In my opinion, I had a Greek teacher who said

666
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:25.880
no. No, no, no, it' s hilarious and I don

667
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:29.840
' t think so. But the
odis like this is so much fun And

668
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:36.480
you can read stylus and you can
aristophanes and all Greeks. It' s

669
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.239
so fun for aristophanes. They'
re gonna laugh a lot so they can

670
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:44.280
see what' s inspired by everything
else and where does everything else come from?

671
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:46.239
Well, now we do, at
the moment we say goodbye and see

672
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:51.840
each other soon in history, in
history to continue to discuss with all peace.

673
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:57.480
See you and thank you for being
here and for joining us and for

674
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.960
giving us your opinion, especially for
saying that, of course, all opinions

675
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.639
are valuable. That' s why
I' ve been reading them and,

676
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:06.719
well, thank you all very much. And see you later,

