Hello, ladies and gentlemen, to us our geek. First, we are
back for X Men ninety seven, Episode eight, the first part of the
three part finale, Tolerance is Extinction. I'm the clown Prince of Radioactive Blood
trast now, and I'm joined by I am a space cowboy k checking our
Fall Guy review, which is there on the feed as well. I'm the
beacons are lit Dylan Musk and the Nimrod sex spot Taylor Field. There you
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We just dropped The X Men Fantasy Draft Part two, the Villain's Edition.
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So a good time there. But we're here to talk about the beginning
of the end. Deill Muss, what did you think of EXE? Tolerance
is Execute? No, Tolerance is Extinction Part one? That's the one.
I thought this was a fantastic episode. There was so much going on,
Like I feel like every character got to do something, whether that was action
or it was some more character work. You know, there's kind of a
mixed bag here, but I just thought there was something for well pretty much
everyone one care you're still missing I'll say, but but I had a really
great time with this one. I like to kind of get some more.
I don't really want to spoil much, but yeah, just getting to see
more with some of the villains going on. There was i'll just say fun
cameos in this episode, I'll put it that way. And yeah, this
is like, to me, the perfect setup for the for the finale and
for the three parter, both as like two separate entities kind of really getting
me jazzed up about, like, man, this is gonna be This is
gonna be quite the challenge for the X Men to overcome, and what a
perfect way to kind of bring them together against this this cause. So yeah,
I think this is a really successful episode at what I was trying to
do, and it's just a fun time overall. Taylor, would you agree?
I would agree, Yeah, this is this is a very very thrilling
and exciting kickstarter to our three parter. I've really really enjoyed it, and
I think that it really cements us in for a thrill ride that's that's to
come. It gave me kind of vibes of a previous arc that we got
in the season five, but I feel like this did it much better,
much much better. Not yeah, I want to clarify that well to season
five vibes with THISANX but I think that this uh yeah, I think that
this episode is just really scary at times, very horrorsque, which was just
very cool. There's one scene in particular that was just giving me creepy vibes
that I was really digging and yeah, just other things and moments in this
episode were just really really cool, and a lot of surprises too that I
was not expecting. Uh maybe some some cool draft updates for at least one
person I know in particular. But yeah, I'm excited to talk about this.
I don't know what you're talking about, Kirk speaking in riddles over here.
Yeah, yeah, man, this episode was a fucking banger. This
like we're getting we're getting close to the end of the season here, and
they know how to do a season finale like this is this is the part
one of three right for the for these last I might be getting ahead of
myself here. It might beget ahead of myself here, but it just it
seems like a finale type threat that we're introduced to here now, and while
we're introduced to them in the previous episode, but to actually like feel the
effect of what Bashing is up to is just it. Taylor, you said,
it's definitely horror like with some of those shots that were shown. There's
a specific elderly grandma that was just terrifying in this this episode, but I
thought it was helping his grandma move. Ever, again, I thought this
was such a fantastic episode. Yeah, one of you already highlighted just a
lot of different characters kind of get their own moment in this episode, and
I thought that was lots of fun to see. What else can I say
non spoiler wise, it's just like the action well, like it's been a
reoccurring thing that I've mentioned so many times throughout the season that we've been talking
about just the animation on these action sequences are just so beautiful. There's a
specific moment with Nightcrawler that just got me so hyped, and it's like,
I don't think I've seen Nightcrawler really pop off like this at any point in
the animated series, at least to this full extent. So uh yeah,
it it got me, got me juicing, It got me excited for next
week. Like I'm just I'm super super humped. I'm super humped, super
pumped. I'm super hung, guys. So I'll let you know if out
there I'm super hung, you know not so sorry you can't have any of
this. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I think I'm the least hyped
out of all four of us, but not because of cons, just because
there's still certain stuff. It's one of these things that this was great,
but I still like I'm waiting. I don't think they're gonna drop the ball
per se, but there's just some things even this episode, I can't really
want to see how they follow up in the next two because there's even a
certain storyline where I feel like we're going down around and I go, ah,
I didn't feel like we were going down that route a couple of weeks
ago, and now it could just be taking us for a ride, could
just be whatever it may be. So I think as a episode it's great.
I think for me as usual, there's lots of action here. I
think it's good action, but I always prefer the character or relationship drama.
So that's why even if this episode is maybe a two thumber as well,
it's like there's other episodes I rank higher because this is just stuff I enjoy
more certain dynamics. But I think it was great for setting the stage.
I think it did a great job of giving like we talked about last week,
but if you're not someone on the internet, you're just watching this.
I did a very good job of explaining who the main villain is, why
they're doing it, the whole origin, but also not feeling too much like
exposition. You know, I think they did it very good ways. This
felt like saying it's a setup episode. I feel like always is like an
insult in a way, like, oh, he has a set episode,
it'd still be a good set up episode. But that's what I thought was
with tons of action, and I'd say, like the last fifteen to ten
minutes all good stuff, some really good stet pieces for some characters. So
yeah, I'm very curious and the ending one in particular, thing is just
I'm very excited to see what this means for these next two. But I
also feel like they're doing a good job of it feels very much like seasons
that knew they were getting other or shows that knew they're getting other seasons.
It feels like not all this could be possibly resolved in two episodes, and
that's not an a if. I just feel like they're gonna be even setting
us up for a season two. I hope that, you know, don't
work the anime or is too hard. I hope it's not something that's like
two to three years away. I hope it's not one of those situations that
we get with shows nowadays. But if it is, you know, alas
whatever, but yeah, no, continues to be great, continues to be
good, so up in the up, up with the upper echelon episodes,
but lower in those episodes for me. So anything non spoiler. M M
all right, let's get into it. Three two one, can't take an
ad break right back and we're back wherever you want to start. You got
bashed and Xavier, you got relationship drama, you got cable. There's tons
of tons of avenues here. Let's go down. Will you talk a little
about a cable on that sort of storyline, because I feel like we finally
got to see more of Cyclops and and Cable and that kind of more interactions
between them and Gene, and I thought that was a really fun trio in
this episode, especially when they go on that little adventure together with the with
the Blackbird and that goes down and then there's just a portion of the Blackbird,
which was like a shock revelation, but then they just let it smash.
When I feel like, Gene, you could have you could have saved
that. I saw you save an entire or throw an entire building, so
you could have saved this vehicle. But even just like Cyclops like using that
as like his powers is like a drill to go through there. But yeah,
just like the team up of even Cable kind of pulling them up and
just getting more of these dynamics there. And yeah, just seeing this like
that is the disc ruption of a dysfunctional family right there. You have Psyclops
and Gene and that complicated situation, and then their son is here, but
it's like not technically the son of one. It's so messy in the best
way possible. But I like that they you know, we're kind of forced
to work together here, and I like that they went on this whole journey
together. It's not even talking about the whole section of Bashan's mother, if
that is even his mother. So yeah, just I really love this whole
kind of adventure with that trio in this episode. Yeah, I agree,
seeing you know, the family, the Summer's family popping off, it was
an interesting dynamic where you have Cable like all just rough and rugged and Cable
as we as we know, I'm like he is the same there you have
his father and then like the clone of his mother. It's just an interesting
dynamic, especially how Scott and his mother calling Jean Gray clone. How dare
you you know? Okay, if you think about it, right, that's
still right though, right, Like, would you refer to would you refer
to may Well? No, never mind, I was gonna say maybe she
was the real one. I guess you'd say the originator of his clone mother.
Like that's I think how you worded it is fine. This proper nomenclature,
fair enough, the the original species that that started, what his mother
came from. Yeah, it's just an interesting dynamic, especially how her,
her and Scott have been, you know, not in the best of place
recently, and then you throw a cable in there, but they were able
to kind of just put that, put that to the side and just focus
on the task at hand. And I feel like Gene as a character,
like seeing her pop off it seems abnormal, just because I'm so used to
her not really being there, like in the action, but when she's like
multiple times, like you mentioned Bil, when she's kind of steering the vehicle
there, but not only that, when they're in the the Blackbird and like
these whatever they're called, the Human Sentinel things are are just like surrounding the
Blackbird, and she's just able to like just just get rid of them,
like so easily. And she is just such a powerful character and it's I
feel like it's easy forget because I just don't always see her highlighted in that
sense. She's not usually like the one on these missions at least what was
shown in the original show. So really great to see her pop off here.
And yeah, I think that even she puts cable seatbelt on and the
whole sequence, like, I just love that Cyclops was just trying to be
like a cool dad, Like he was just trying to be like the coolest
guy around. I feel like he was trying to impress his son in a
way. You know, he was also fulfilling the mission. But I just
I just love all that dynamic between them. It's like it's so great that
these characters finally have personality after all these seasons. And I know we've been
getting it this whole season mostly from Psyclops, but I yeah, I just
love their whole dynamic. The theme too, in that action sequence at the
car, it kind of integrated into that big action theme was so good.
Yeah, No, I liked everything with them. I do like the dynamic.
It is a fun one. My only hold up was it feels like
they're againting Scott and Jean really chummy again, Like even at one point he
had his hand around her hips. And that's where it's like I thought,
even last week, they're having this conversation about how this time things are different
and we can't come together. And then you also have Gene talking about she's
going through this whole revelation of Kenny loves someone but not be blood, and
then they talk about how well you know, blood isn't family, Families who
you choose. So that's why I'm like in a waitnes See kids, they're
gonna be event, gonna be something that breaks them a party gang. Go
Oh, really, this shouldn't be the route because, as I've said,
I just feel things kinda get hunky dor between Gene and Scott. One.
I feel like we've been there before a lot, and two it just was
not what the season has been setting us up for so far. They've been
kind of hitting us over the head if they want to work it out,
but there's always issues of why they can't right now. So that's why I'm
kind of having to see even if they do get back together, maybe I'll
feel better about this later on. So all the dynamic stuff, that's great,
it's the strange bedfells things. How do they act again one another?
But there's just something they don't think we're jiving with me of what they've done
so far. If it just felt like Gene and Scott, who even last
week were very they are talking, but there was still like a sense of
like awkwardness, felt like it was kind of gone. It felt like they
were a couple and the cable thing happened and it's like, oh shit,
what like that felt like the driving force and it felt like their personal things
had gone away, and that could because yeah, the world whatnot, but
doesn't matter. They're like at the crime scene Genosha and they're standing on dead
bodies talking about like, hey, should we keep dating all this? It's
not like they haven't done this before. So that's where I'm a little i
won't say worried, but like mixed on it so far, and I got
to see what happens because I still don't think they're gonna end together. I
still don't think Madeline Pryor is dead. Even this episode, they made sure
to cut Gene off before she said the D word. I think that that
reveal is coming, so maybe that will be the kicker, Maybe that'll be
all they could have worked it out. But she sees Madeline and go with
her. But so I'm TBD on the full scope of this. But as
far as all the action stuff, them getting together, doing investigating stuff,
Cable just like I love when the grandma walks away and he's like, all
right, we'll play along for a bit, like all great stuff. Like
all the dynamic they had there just perfect. So mhm, Yeah, I
think getting all three of them kind of together as a family and doing a
really cool action sequence just fleeing in there the Blackbird and having the Porsche just
being really really randomly blasting out of the explosion was really really cool. But
yeah, I think I think it was. It was It was neat,
And I think what justifies them to kind of be maybe getting closer between Gene
and Scott is the fact that Cable is there and we get a little bit
of some it's not our sun, but we get a little bit of time
where Gene is She's talking about these memories of him kicking inside her and everything
like that, so she she loves Yeah, so she feels this this connection
to him, even though yeah, it's not not her sons. So I
think that adds a little bit more to why she's feeling a little bit closer
to Scott at this time, just with Cable being around. But I do
still believe that Emma Frost is gonna sneak in there and see them a Frost.
So I'm on the Prior train, You're on the Frost train, and
I think it frad happens. That's not till next season now, yeah,
not being like where's Scott? I like, I like the prior idea a
lot because then I mean, I want Gene end up with Logan. That's
what I'd like to see. Well, you're playing a fools game. Then
they didn't never end up together. They might, they might have a good
couple sessions. But I'm telling you, by time the show ends, she
will be back with Scott at some point, like that will be the or
they'll be a thropple. They'll never let them do a throupple. That's my
favorite incarnation, you know, as I've said before, where they just all
agree just to date each other and it's like this, this is perfect.
You know, what did you guys think of the explanation of what happened with
Cable and Bishop, and that Bishop would like when they went through the time
portal they got separated, and then it's like, well, I don't know
where Bishop is moving on. I just feel like Bishop's really getting the short
end of the stick in this season. And it doesn't really make sense to
me. I don't know why they would like and maybe this is my fault,
but like, I don't really know why they'd market him as like a
member of the team if this is like if they just have no plans or
ideas creatively for what they were gonna do with him as a character. If
your name starts with a bee, Bishop Beast, we got nothing for you
here at ninety seven, you know, we might throw you a little all
those reports a small little bone today. Yeah, but even then, it's
just like it's not like, yeah, it's like just it's pretty comparable.
Yeah, I thought it was odd too. It's it's one of those like
weird timeline things like howd he never linked back up? And then like it's
weird and I can't remember if that's why I'm in the comics, so excuse
me. But just like Bishop has someone that can fix Cable, right,
and then all of a sudden they get separated. So then who looked after
Cable? Like someone just found this dying baby. It's like, I know
how to fix this because we talked about like who's Bishop to bring this baby
too? I guess nobody. I guess maybe he like got them to the
facility and he pulled away. I thought it was very like, very easy,
which is also odd because like they've I feel like they've interacted in the
show, right, Am I wrong? In the original series, Yeah,
yeah, right in like the one of the first days of Future Past,
and I guess you can do that time travel bullshit right where it's like,
well, this Cable hasn't interacted with Bishop, right, because there's always people
coming from Like we talk about Forge, right, Like how many different forges
have we batten throughout? So I guess in this time and they are playing
a bit more with the MCU rules because I think we're luckily not going to
get Gambit back because Beast did say he said, oh what good comma taghe
fuck? Howd he say that? Where Doctor Camutage tell what Dylan said?
He said. They've talked about how there's certain points in times that you can't
change, which I absolutely love because that's linking it with the one if episode
of Christine dying or the car accident, right and strange can't change that.
So again that MCU time travels a little murky because there's things that go against
that. But I think that's them insinuating that Gambit can't come back because this
is a sticking point and they can't change this one. So for sure.
Yeah, so I liked that confirmation the gambut bishopping a little man. I
think Bishop will come back, but yeah, he's definitely more on the disappoint
It's it's tough because it's there's so much good stuff that's like I can't really
ding the show for like it's hard, but they're still it's not perfect,
right, So that's where it's tough. It really feels like they're at least
for me, setting up something with Bishop probably next season. I don't think
there's any time to really do that, just with the whole bashing thing right
now for these last two episodes that we have, but I'm expecting like to
maybe not see Bishop for this entire season and the next season kind of just
like pick up from his perspective of like where found Gambit, guys, I
can't find Cable anywhere, but I found his voice sounds very similar, because
if that's not the case, it's just it is very bizarre, like like
like why why do you even have to set up the show with like Bishop?
Like you could you could, you could very much just have Nathan be
sent to the future in some other way, shape or form other than having
Bishop literally in the intro like of the show. So you think that he
is just like a main X Men member even though he's literally just there for
taxi service and terrible taxi. He did not get his person there safely because
he just kind of abandoned them. The baby and I haven't rewatched them because
I'm rewatching with the girls. I didn't catch an episode three much where we
talked about this that him and Beasts have this dialogue that the only reason he's
there is because his time band is like broken. I'd forgotten about that so
one, and they don't tell us why. But I think that's it where
I think I would still be fine if he was in the show time band
broken and then he were to bring Cable or Nathan whatever you want to call
him, which I did appreciate. Multiple times Psyclops called him Nathan, didn't
call him Cable. There's a few times, but there's like in Dangers Nathan,
So I liked that. I just love how Cable it's just like he
just looks like a man, where just Summer still just looks like he's like
a just a you know, older than a young adult. But I think
that the Bishop thing wouldn't hurt me as much as he wasn't in the main
lineup. I still because they need some plot device to get Nathan to the
future, right, and if it's not him, it would be Cable or
Forge, and Forge was a little busy, so I'm five it. But
yeah, it was one of those of like, oh, he's a member
of the roster, and I don't Yeah, I think, I mean,
I like the idea that this new uh that ninety seven opposed to the original
series, it seems to have a bit more of a fluid roster like Nightcrawlers
kind of just on the team currently, even though he was around previously,
and then Sunspot has kind of become a member. He's in the train,
he's in the danger room doing a bunch of training and whatnot. So that
kind of makes sense for what The X Men is supposed to be. But
even in that original series, it was just always the same people and they
never really added any one of them. Like you know, Colossus would show
I'll show up and help save the day once, but he would never actually
join the team. He'd go back with no, I have things in Russia.
Sorry, I'll be back one day though, waiting. But in theory,
I love the idea that the roster can be more flexible than that,
and then they they also reflect that via the opening credits I think is something
we talked about too, which is which is fun. So yeah, I'm
curious to see how they continue to do that in like future seasons, because
I'm totally cool with a rotating roster, but I do feel like if someone's
gonna leave, you should give us like a better reason then. Yeah,
I kind of forgot about that time band stuff too, but it's just a
bit strange, which minor complaint. I hated in the credits that they had
e Xavier on the roster this time because it completely spoiled me that he's coming
back this episode, Like, just wait till next week. He's gonna be
there. But the second that he saw him floating in the chair and said
Professor Xi, well, I know he's gonna show up, and what did
my boy do? He crashed and whatever kind of knew he was coming from
last week, but I you know for sure this episode, right, there's
still chance he could have been at the finale, you know, just Storm
doesn't even show up yet. So yeah, and he showed up in that
ship that looked very much what was that ship called in Starfield deal remembers like
the Bug or the Beatle or whatever. Yeah, the Mantis. Yeah,
it's like his helmet like it looked very Manti. But yeah, he's back.
Not great timing. He should have just after the mansion has been destroyed,
so he lost, the school, lost that pretty painting. I'm sure
they'll rebuild. The team is shattered, you know, all over the map,
and then obviously someone's declared war. We'll get them that. But yeah,
he's back. I still thought there was a chance they would save him,
but then once I saw what they did with Magneto, I went,
okay, that's why they're not. I still would have preferred him to wait
till the finale and then season two we get reaffilmate, reaffiliated with Xavier and
the team because I thought it might be Magneto and the team. Still obviously
it's not. I think we are going to get to the civil Wars situation.
And the other thing we did learn this Bashing and Company leaked that Xavier
was alive and was not assassinated by Gark, which was a really risky thing
to do because they knew he was not dead or they had an idea that
he could not be dead, and just to let people believe that Gerk like
assassinate him. Now more than ever, people are not trusting the Mutes at
all, so very I don't know who made that call on the X men
to like let him take the call. Well, then Scott shouldn't be the
leader because that was a bad call. You just say we don't know what
happened, he's missing or he's dead, but like to throw on him because
now it looks like this guy who's like big foh guy is like, oh,
he was right, he didn't kill Xavier. These Munes are fucking liars.
So but I love it for the show because now they're all time,
all time low. I feel like the mutones again. They went they were
building and now push back down. Yeah makes for the drama for sure.
Yeah, I mean the Xavier thing, I guess I kind of saw.
I'm more surprised that like Storm somehow hasn't been able to reconven the team yet.
And maybe that's just the way they paced the episodes and we're supposed to
believe that, like the end of the Life Death part two is like gonna
be right now, I guess, or like I don't know, she no
because she saw that event on TV, so like what is she doing in
the meantime? It doesn't really make any sense the show makes. It looks
like Xavier calling hers are like, oh my god, they need me,
but it's like, are you telling me she saw that? And then her
enforcement of course, one of the people he connects with is his beautiful Still
first saw like my x men. But what did her and force Still go
to the beach after? Definitely she got San Crevice's they were taking horseback rather
than flying they decided to do. But yeah, I'm I don't know.
I I definitely see where your point is. I think we're set up for
some pretty fun stuff though with with Magneto, just like off the Deep End,
in a good way, and then Xavier back with the team, but
like things are shattered big time. And I mean we're still in the middle
of a battle when he gets there too, so it's gonna pick up pick
up with a pretty like spicy battle, I'm sure again, But yeah,
I definitely see what you're talking about here. I guess I gotta guys see
how the rest of the season plays out to see how I feel about it
at the end of the day, because I think we definitely still in hindsight,
Yeah, I wish we got a bit more time of just Magneto being
the leader without there being some huge world ending stakes. Yeah, and I
also hope next week is not just half the episode Xavier focus with the team.
It's like, I do want that, but not in this three part
finale where he just got bashing. And I'm assuming Bashian's gonna get killed off
in the finale or whatever defeated, right, I don't think he's gonna be
a cliffhanger for season two. Maybe he is, and I'll change my mind,
but I don't want to be like a big I just could see fifty
minutes of him talking to each character and giving them words of wisdom. It's
like, I think, like that's a season, like, let's do end
season two after the battle. That's That's just my only word of Xavier coming
back, because we talked about how many episodes in the original series he would
take up, and I mean, I think they don't do that because I
feel like they haven't done that with Wolverine. They haven't made him like the
main character. So I hope they don't want Xavier. It's like a good
good bounce. You know, what did you? What did you? Guys?
There's the very quick scene of Sinister and he's talking about how he's he's
using Bashian. He's explaining to vow. To me, that seemed like a
very it was a short scene, but it felt like it was very impactful,
and I feel like that is where we're going, where like, yeah,
Bashian gets defeated in the end or usurped by Sinister in some way,
and so I'm not sure how that's gonna work. But I still do feel
like the through line of the season is that Sinister is like the big bad
and I think maybe he's just lying low right now and letting bash do his
thing in the meantime because it's like clearly working. It's pretty powerful, But
yeah, I do. That's still the vibe I'm getting is that Sinister is
gonna be the big bad at the at the very end, he's gonna be
the final boss or as Bashian might be, like the phase one of that
I suppose really Okay, Yeah, the opposite, the opposite, Yeah,
because I think it's more still gonna be bashing and they're gonna save Sinister for
season two. He's gonna have some more plot stuff going on because he's just
always like can slink away. That's that's what I got from it. That
he'll haven't a jet button, he'll take like an elevator like Apocalypse would always
do so, but he's still gonna have some sort of big juicy moment in
the finale, right like if you want, if you want him to be
carried over as the villain, you can't just have him like going down the
alleyway like he did before. Like I think you could see, uh,
we didn't see Sinister anywhere literally on Scott's shoulder, My god, I think
you could see like uh, like Bashan trying to like make a getaway or
escape or he's defeated and then Sinister like traps him and like executes him and
then he oh my god, it sneaks off or something like that to Formula
takes the mantle or takes like his research or something like that. Like see,
I could see the hook being that that's when we get revealed that Prior
is still alive and Sinister has or and maybe that's where they do put Gen
Scott back together. But if they reveal that Madeline's still alive, that could
put a huge monkey wrench into their relationship. So it's just because, like
I feel, if Xavier what, it's so tough. It's a good problem
to have. But you have Magneto now, who's probably adversary. You have
Xavier back, you have Bash and Sinister. I think Magneto, they for
sure say for season two. I don't think you can defeat him per se.
I just feel like Bashi and it would just feel weird to me if
they were to introduce him and then defeat him next week. You know,
like I think I think Sinator sneaks away. I think he. I think
he he's long game and maybe he's gonna bring back Apocalypse. Maybe that's one
of his fucking end goals. I mean, I feel like, like a
four to five episode arc for Bashian's pretty that's a lot more than a lot
of villains get in the X Men animates. Here, I feel like that's
still pretty juicy and substantial and leads to a good finale and once again,
like I feel like Bashan can be that more, that greater like physical battle
for the for the X Men, whereas Sinister is more like, you know,
pulling the strings the puppeteer, and he's never really been like the strongest
in terms of his powers. It's more but like what he's doing behind the
scenes. And that's where like, I don't know, I don't think i'd
like if if he had just captured prior and now we're getting like the opposite
of the goblin queen thing that we got earlier this season, to be like,
okay, we're just doing that again, but like reverse, Like that
might be a bit too on the notes, I think it works well if
Bastian's kind of like, yeah, the heavy that they have to fight.
But then Sinister is, I don't know, somehow pulling away with a few
like chips to his name. I don't know where mine now he's going here,
Yeah, I did like at least his perspective from it of like,
you know, like he's basically getting just free reign to to do tests on
these captured right, like like it totally fits well with him. When he
first said the line of like, yeah, I'm not really working for this
guy, Like I'm just I gott him it right where I want him.
It just it. I just chuckled because it was just like, of course
this guy saying that, he's like, oh, I'm not really uh you
know, I'm not really following his orders. The same thing season four.
Remember, Yeah, I'm not really a part of Apocalypse Plan. I just
like I would have here for the beginning of Earth Recreated. You know,
initially I kind of just laughed at that idea, but I definitely agree that.
I think he something with Sinister is like like maybe he's like when he
is an immediate threat to our X Men, he he doesn't just like take
out like four members or something. Sometimes he gets taken out pretty easily,
but man is he resilient. He will always be coming back. First time
we saw him, he was just a face in the sand. Came back
stronger than ever, and I definitely think that that'll happen again. He'll he'll
just get possibly knocked down or slither away to the shadows and come back even
more dangerous. And the Cable has to be the one to do that though,
right if Sinister gets defeated quotation marks in the season and that see that's
the thing when you say final Boston, do you feel like I feel like
in the final episode. If you're right, Sinister could get defeated. But
Bash is like the last big actually like battle the animate and do like I
like what kritistal about how like Sinistor usually gets taken out easy. I could
just see Cable breaking into some factory they find Sinister and Cable or one of
the Summers just messing maybe all the Summers, maybe they have that. Maybe
that'd be a good scene too, of the X Men fighting Bash and and
all the Summers with Jean Gray, maybe Madlon pryor just messing up Sinister like
that. That way, I could see if he kind of gets taken out.
I just don't think he's the final final boss for for them because he's
a weak He's not weakling, but he's not you know, no, I
mean I think Bashon does make for the much better final fight, and and
he's since he's like a robot type guy, like he is one that you
can kill, and then it's like, Okay, you know, you can
really rebuild him in the future if you really want to. But it's like
it's it's someone that you can truly take out, whereas, yeah, Sinister
is gonna slink away into the shadows and hopefully it's I don't know, a
bit cleaner than what they've done before for that. But I'm honestly because I
imagine, like who knows how many seasons the show's go on for. There's
tons of characters, but like I would feel like Win ninety seven ends,
that's it for this, Like I don't think there's like a we're gonna revive
it again. I would like them the next time they kill off Sinaster,
like kill him, kill him, like be done forever, you know,
because like I do like Sinister, not saying I'm tired of him, but
I just feel like he should either get away or if he's dead, he's
dead this time, like you got him, you know, because then it's
just it almost just becomes a running gag off they just you know, he's
a little speck in the sand. Speck in the dirt and then he's like,
oh, I'm back, I'm your father again. You know so,
hm, you have Gambit's the only person who ever actually died. Yeah,
for good, poor Gambit. Yeah, hey, we talked a lot there,
Xavier Sinister found bosses. Where are you at? I mean Xavier,
Yeah, just kind of having the expectator expectation, I guess, the the
reveal that he's going to be coming back, it does kind of suck.
I would have enjoyed it if we didn't know what he was up to.
It he just landed and it would be like, oh my god. And
then we can get like a flashback episode, like if you were to actually
organize this so we don't see him at all and he lands here, and
then the next episode you get like the like the flashback of what he was
up to h and then you can even make that shorter, make it like,
uh, we kind of got that though with The Life Deaf too,
didn't We like we took a break from the main action and then like it
was but I mean, changed the order, change the order so we don't
see Xavier at all, and then here we are at this point of the
show. Xavier lands to me Max when we're like, oh, freaking out,
like, oh, he's back, and then the next episode we can
do ten minutes where it just covers him like trying to get back to Earth
dealing with that. In the next ten minutes is him like he's landed and
now we're getting back into like the The only thing I think against that is
I don't think that makes for good Final Trilogy finale. That's the only thing.
Yeah, I think it's better is like, yeah, the setup early
to Midde in the show, I think you're right. I think for me
the exavier thing I can't answer until we get that these next two episodes because
there could be a version of you being right where it's like it could have
been a good surprise, But the same time, I would not. I
would have been I was already bummed. Sometimes, like when we got episode
five and we had to wait two weeks. I still liked life, death
and everything, but I was like, man, I just want to know
what's going on with Genosha and my x Men. So like, right now
from the finale and Magneto's popping off, we're getting all these cameos. Then
we gotta fucking take a week break for the Shi'ar Empire and La Landra and
everything like it could could be like a little momentum killer. But I see
what you mean. Like I said, I'm the jury's out from me on
Xavier. See what difference he makes, because I feel like, does anyone
think like that's not about Magnio. Does anyone think he's gonna taken out this
season? Like I don't, So I just feel like you. I feel
like he's back so they can again run back the Magneio versus Xavier. I
think they're gonna do fatal attractions. Like many other people, I agree that
we talked about this right if Magneto found out the humans were involved, technically
they are right because they made the Sentinels which made Masterball, and so like
in Magneto's process of elimination, he's gonna, oh the humans did this.
This is still a human person, we said, And it's gonna like fall
fail Tractors where he's gonna come back even more evil. So that's where I'm
all down for that. I still wish we got a whole season. I
was being bad, but if that's the case, I'm just curious what he's
gonna do these next two episodes with Sinister and Bash and still running a MUK.
You know, I don't know, I'm excited about that, Yeah,
I did. I kind of get in the vibe that these next two episodes
are really gonna be all the mutants, you know, uh, Magneto and
his new squad, x Men, their current squad, and anyone else,
like you know, the cameos for example, those type characters popping in and
getting like your endgame sort of moment where they're all fighting against these robots,
against Bastian and Sinister, and that's that. And then you know, next
season is where we truly get like, we'll get that dialogue from Magneto and
him and Xavier will eventually talk maybe in the finale, maybe right near the
end of the finale, Yeah, and they'll have that deeper conversation. We'll
find out that they they're not gonna be able to see eye to eye on
how to resolve this going forward, and that's where they go their separate ways.
Magneto doesn't like kill anyone on the way out or anything. And then
in season two is when we can dip more into that where he has his
brotherhood of Mutants again. And we get to go down that kind of route
of it. Yeah, I just don't think there's enough time for us to
truly go that deep on that in this particular season with another I guess we
have another hour and a half ish of content, right, But yeah,
I just don't think with how much we have on the villain side of things,
especially with some of these other villains that we got on this too,
with the cameos, there's just there's a little too much to throw Magneto in
there as the true evil guy. I think if they go maybe won't happen
this season, but if they go fail Attractions route, Magneil's gonna fucking kill
some X Men and it's gonna be real brutal. Yeah. I could definitely
see that happening in the future. I don't think this season though. Yeah,
there's one panel. Uh. I thought that Magneto because you said,
like the Dylan they're gonna fight the robots all that kind of stuff. I
thought Magniedo just disabled every one on the Earth. I thought he was sending
note a beacon because I mentioned they were all destroyed, right, Yeah,
oh yeah, emp, Yeah, he's he's fucking leveled up, so I'm
not sure if they could just reboot though, right, like is it a
thing? He depowers them and then I think he like totally fried like the
grid, Like they keep saying these solar flares are eventually just gonna wipe out
the comic, right, they could just be like, well, bash made
a special happen non e MP. But I think that's what he's getting to
and he's eventually going to try and whip up that kind of a special sentinel.
I think I almost got the sense that this activation of these sentinels was
premature or wasn't supposed to happen right away. It felt like it was just
it happened, and it happened before Bastian maybe was wanting it to occur or
something like that was clear on what the activation was, because I first I
thought it was just like proximity, like if they are close to mutant DNA,
then they that's when the kill switch turns on. But then it seemed
like, well, someone had just turned the turn the switch to activate.
Yeah, it was Bashan though Taylor, because he mentions that they talked about
Genosha something else and the sentinels, and he said, what's the most powerful
tool overload, and that's where he's talking about his examples of the people on
Earth can't process all these things at once, and this is the best time
to take advantage. So he he chose to just have them pop off just
for like, I think, because the mutes are weak, and just to
like he's just causing chaos out there. So I think that's why he's trying
to I don't know what he's trying to do long game, because the humans
can be like it's funny that he's talking about and I love the speech of
humans in the future are gonna be non existence because you know, ten people
building this building can't anymore when you have a telpath that does this. There's
no need for taxis because his teleportation mune can just do that. So but
the thing is, like, I don't think the humans are asking, like,
well, what are the Sentinels going to do with humans? Like I
feel like it's gonna like they're gonna also stinc them and be their own thing.
But Bashan did launch the Sentinels of ire Call because he was talking about
overload. He just wanted to mass hysteria the entire earth, al right.
It was Genosha the Exaver thing and sentinels. That's why he put the exavor
thing out right now because he just didn't want people have time to really push
things apart or pick them apart, be like, oh why would this come
out and stuff. So this is just like an attack plan. That's Operations
Tolerance man, yep tolerance on the activation of his Operation zero tolerance. When
we're seeing everyone kind of transitioning and turning, like you mentioned Kirkle on the
grandma was just fucking terrifying, but yeah, everyone else turning, Like you
see the mom turn on the couch and the dad and the two kids like
look at each other. It's like, what the fuck? Like I was
absolutely terrifying. Uh yeah, you just Nimrod just decided to come back in
time just to sleep with women and put a little robot TENA into somebody and
both bo to male. The guy who was the original showrunner, he did
tweet out four episodes to watch and in both those episodes, Uh, what
is Bashan's mom and dad in those episodes separately, But they chose characters that
you saw like his mom was like speaking at the un or something like in
the original series and stuff. So it's that's kind of fun that they have
mini cameos in the series already, so there you go. Cool. Yeah.
I liked that sequence when they go to the abandoned house the Little Stark
Expo magazine. I thought that was a fun, little, fun little lot.
And then I really liked that element because we talked about this series,
like even not understand how Rogue's powers work and how she can just become a
doctor by touching this doctor. But I thought it was an interesting power level
up for Gene that she could see this childhood painting from Bashan and like go
into his mind. Yeah, I thought that was really cool. It was
like and I think it was a clever way to kind of get this origin
story, backstory stuff for Bashan as a character. And you know, it's
not like mind blowing stuff something we haven't seen before, but I thought it
was pretty It was it was well done. It was like a quick enough
sequence, like the editing of it. So I liked getting that sequence of
getting that information about about Nimrod and Master Mold and all that and Bo to
me on the Craters must have been big Man of Steel fans, because this
is the second time they've recreated a scene shot for shot, The scene with
Bashed and freak out was mine. It's identical to Clark's a Man of Steel
and then also Storms Flight a couple episodes ago identical as well. So the
team they loved Steiner or work over there. So yeah, the hunk of
Hunker boys are gonna love to hear. Yeah, they're gonna love that.
So but yeah, I liked all that. Love the house, the creepy
vibes. I love the build up of it, very just fun little detective
things going on here. I didn't really care much about Jubilee and what Robbie
had going on, you know. Yeah, that's to be like a bit
of a I don't know, just like not very spicy. Yeah, I
don't think I'm still gonna stand by Robbie. Wasn't needed to be honest,
I think we could. I would have still preferred, I'm not saying in
general, maybe season two, but I would prefer be to get some more
time bishop Jubilee by herself. You could do the Mojo episode without him.
It's just like, I guess, like a fun enough wrinkle that we talked
about with his mom that she did just hand him over to the robot so
she did end up being a shitty person after all. But I'm not gonna
say it doesn't track, but it's just I don't know, it's weird for
two episodes, like I knew you were mute and that's all good, and
this is like pretty much just fine with her son about to be executed.
So don't really know how to feel about all this, and not in a
not a Magneto way of like oh I'm anticipating. I'm just kind of like,
eh, like this this just hasn't This could have used more time,
not executed right, because they the Sentinel's line that were like, oh,
we're here to protect mutants, yes, but come on, lady, like
this Sidineel just fucking kill all these mutes in Genosha, Like, I'm sorry,
there's no way, Like if Taylor you ran a group called like the
Taylor Friends of Humanity and all you killed Colonne, you killed half a cologne.
I live here, and then you're like, hey, I'm just gonna
take your child. But hey, they're safe with me. He doesn't.
She doesn't know that what they are though, or she doesn't know what their
affiliation is. They look pretty freaky. She also let her son burn down,
like what six homes, She's not the brightest parent. Fair enough,
Let's see what else is there out there. I mentioned the Nightcrawler sequence just
wanted to re emphasize how fucking badass it was to have him just triple wielding
the swords fighting back to back with Logan. I just thought that was a
great sequence. And then because the Sentinels are just they're just like immortal,
they just keep coming back. They like he had to get creative and kind
of just bam from them out of the room. I thought all that was
was really great and made me think of just like, man, that must
be so exhausting for him to like just the mental accuracy of like where he's
actually baffing to and then like like going back while also just sword fighting these
sentinels and quite the strain on Nightcrawler. I was just assumed it was just
easy, you know, you just snap your fingers and you just teleport here
there. No. I like seeing that kind of Wolverine perspective of being pulled
through that teleportation. Oh yeah, that was great POV to see what actually
bam thing like and he'said just that shocked looking and they gave Logan a really
good set beats to a falling out of the sky and just like taking out
those sentinels one by one so that they gave them both some some good fights
going on here. So yeah, I think Nightcrawler popping off is really cool,
and especially playing off of Logan's catch phrase like I got six reasons and
then night cowlers like nine reasons. It was really cool. It was a
little German nine on there too. Yeah, and Rogues just passed the funk
out, not helping it at all, you know. Yeah, she got
bopped harder than I thought she did from getting smacked into the car, right,
is that what knocked her out? Hopefully they got her out of that
mansion before it collapsed, you know, would have been all for nothing.
Sure, sure they did. I'm sure they showed her a death. Rogue
had her, they had her outside. Yeah I know, I said,
I'm sure that she was, but you know that, Yeah, it is,
it's past that point. Actually, after nine you mentioned, Magneto just
totally souped up as a new ultimate move just e MPs the whole fucking earth.
I wonder how much of that is emphasized with his his loin cloth look
that he had. He's just like straight SPEEDO. Is that a? Is
that a comic book? And close more power cost he was just strapped on
the X literally an Jesus Christ after doing that. But like I just laughed
that he literally made it an ax. It's like, you don't how to
do that. But he's got a flair, you know. So he's a
very stylish guy. I was just gonna bring up the senator and doesn't really
seem like she's I feel like at any point that would have been the time
to switch into misty, but she's not a mystique. Yeah, I just
feel like in general because I feel like they she let him go and then
I was like, oh, this is when it's gonna happen. But when
then, and especially if she was she was locked up and Basha was holding
a necklace, I'm like, oh, fuck, he's gonna put it on
her and say oh I've known this whole time, but he didn't. So
I think she is just a senator that I guess bashan because she says like,
oh I didn't know it was gonna be that bad. These people always
never knows me that fucking bad. Like, why do you think this humanoid
have had planned lady. But yeah, I guess she was just a senator
that with scared Munes wanted them controlled but didn't want them executed, so she
helped makened out. So it's all right, I'm not bumped the I liked
that theory. I thought it would have been really cool. But that's fine,
and I'm curious to see my My final thoughts on her won't be until
we end these next two, because if we just never touched back to her,
I would find it a little odd because they just locked her up,
And I'm like, why does bashanir locked up? I think he would just
murder her in this situation, right, So I don't know. I'm curiously
what does happen with now? I'll stay with the prediction that it is so
really Yeah, do I have evidence for it from this episode? Not particularly,
but I'll just do it to be different. Yeah, why wouldn't she
reveal? Why would't we get the reveal? Now? Like that's why she'd
help out. Eric is like, I'm musty, why would she? What's
the benefit? She wants to know He's still got a friend out there,
you know, and so he doesn't kill val in the future, so you
don't see voun. She's like, why would he do that? Because I
feel like his plan is now to kill all humans, no matter how good
they are. Right, it's the speed Man, even Val saying Anto's right
and Magneto right is just extinction, especially when they like, especially if he
ever talks to came But who who is who traditionally thinks that Magneto is right?
That's true. Yeah, but I'm just saying, wouldn't she reveal it
him so he doesn't kill her? That's what I mean, Like that'd be
a good thing for her. I guess, do we know? I'm trying
to think about. Even in the original series, they weren't really much of
a duo where no, I think they buddied around here and there, but
they weren't like call like an episode or a scene. Yea, I'm sure
it happened, but I guess that's more like a I don't know, I
think of that combo traditionally, but they're they're always pounding around the opening credits,
but never never too much in the episode. Yeah, so yeah,
but what they talk about it? They talked about it this season though,
right, remember with Rogue and Magneto they that's how they met each other when
she was with mystique, right, so they did. They did refer back
that, so I hope it's true. There's still a chance because I'd like
her just to turn the misteak and pop off and get out of there.
But because, like I said, if she's just thou, why is Bashanda
alive? Like what good is she? Now? She's a turncoat mm hmm.
But she's locked up, not dead, So we'll see. Yeah,
I don't know, we'll see. I like, there's a good one lion
there. Hank Wolverine says, I gotta take to talk to Hank about his
taste in woman. That was good and yeah, thought the reporter was making
a baby face to her. No, she's just a setin all poor it
does really have bad luck and thrown to the wall that was in the mansion
to start taking damage. And you know that's fine. I don't know where
I am with that again, I still wish be set a little bit more.
But uh, alas there goes that love interest. So mm hmm,
yeah, nice knowing you. Yeah, they showed the two towers in this
episode, so are the twin towers? So that caught me off guard,
but again it is ninety seven, so yeah, it's one part. They
zoom out and then all I have is the cameos, but I'll wait to
say those if anyone has anything else to talk about. I think I'm down
to the cameos for myself. Yeah, so we got a bunch we got
early on in the episode Bash and just talking to like, I don't know,
the world evil just going on, like probably the Masters of Evil.
But we got what people think is maybe missus Hydra. I can't remember what
her full name is, but something miss Hydra cameo. We don't know for
sure because her figure is not as distinct and she was black. Yeah that
was not in the subtitles whereas the other one. Yes, yeah, yeah,
that's a tough thing. But then we got Baron Zemo and then we
got Doctor Doom, which amazing, very interesting, and again I don't know
what they got planned, but just give us an Avengers ninety nine. I'm
saying, like we got Cap last week, we got Zemo this week,
Like I'm ready for it, you know, very cool. Yeah, I
mean it was just it was a fun cameo and right now it's nothing more.
But hopefully it does turn into something more. I think that'd be yeah,
really cool. And I think it's cool because we again talk about predictions
and we said, oh, maybe one or two, but we've got tons
of appearances from people this season, so yeah, it's nice to know that
there's potential for more villains that aren't just the ones that we've seen before.
I mean, Bashion was already like a new one I guess deviated from Master
Mold and Nimrod, so maybe not brand new in that sense, but like
Man Barren, Zemo, Doctor Doom, Like, that's that's really exciting.
I was hype in that moment. And then yeah, get Spidy later on,
like it was I was. It was fantastic. Even just seeing Omega
reds like arm just I feel like if I just got that, I would
have been excited, but uh got a lot more. Yeah, and then
when the EMP got sent out, Yeah, we got the Spider Man ninety
seven cameo or technically it's I guess people like what is the year. I
can't remember me at ninety five, but whatever, it is, the Spider
Man that is of the animed universe. Then we got Omega Red and Silver
Samurai just didn't know what he was hanging out New York. I guess he
wasn't in New York, right. It was a world of emp so that's
fine. But Spider Man was great. They had that cameo. I'm hoping
he's in like a little bit. I'm not expecting it. My hope would
be like maybe helps out Jubilean Robbie, but I doubt it. But I
just I want that. I am with Brenton Chris that it does suck.
I feel like because that Friendly Neighborhood show, They're not gonna do a revival
yet. But my long term hope is that they're gonna finish X Men and
then after they might do Spierman. Even if they do Avenger showing Spiderman's in
there, because that show ended on a cliffhanger, we still't know. And
I think Silver Semurai Omega Red it was very cool Sea Level Mega Red.
I think that's purely for next year or next season. I think they won't
pop up these two. I think that's like, hey, look who's out,
Look who's still around? You know? So Silver Samurai is my most
recent Marvel snap card. I just know with them, so that's cool to
see they gotta make a red card over there at Snap. Yeah, of
course. Nice. He's pretty good too. You got a buff recently,
so he's pretty good. Perfect. But yeah, any thoughts, Yeah,
I mean once again not uh not really that meaningful more just like fun cameos.
Yeah, but yeah, I hope it turns into something more. Of
course, I would love a Spider Man. He's looking good. He's looking
good. The animation on him. I was like, oh, yeah,
he's looking sleek, you know. Yeah, But I don't know, I
I I, I don't know. I guess my theory is kind of proven
wrong because I totally misread that Magneto situation. But I definitely thought it was
kind of like calling in the troops trying to get some support going on,
and that would be cool. I think, getting like all these random people
from all over the world to help fight these uh these robots. But we'll
see what happens. I I don't know. These ones do feel likely to
me as possible actually could pop up and do some fighting and in the next
two episodes, like sil Samurai and Omega Red in particular because we've seen them
before, and then Spider manuse like why not? It would be just so
fun, even just for one scene. I'd love to see Omega Red pop
off on some sentinels. That'd be great. Yeah, that'd be great.
They thoughts are Taylor. I just think that the cameos were an absolute delight.
Spider Man just was not expecting to see him swinging there. I thought,
at most, we're just gonna get that little Daily Bugle Easter egg at
the what was the first episode when we got it. Yeah, so that's
that's all I thought we were gonna get. Yeah, Doctor Doube and this
whole Shadow Council was just crazy. Was not expecting that. They just kept
rolling them out. Yeah, Silver Samurai, even though we already saw him,
it was still cool to see him, see him chilling there watching the
e MP waves, and then it was the other one. Yeah, Omega
Red. Omega Red was cool. I don't I don't expect him to be
making another appearance this season. Like I definitely would agree that he's more of
like a season two a component. But I think it was just neat to
kind of roll call all these characters and just let people that are familiar with
the show kind of think, oh, okay, they got their site set
and this is maybe the future that we're going to see here, some of
these characters were turning, and even for new new viewers to the show that
aren't familiar with these characters per se. I mean, everyone I'm sure knows
Doctor Doom, but if you see like O Mega Red, he looks sinister
enough in the scene, you can probably think like, oh, he's going
to be a villain or something like that. Yeah, it was just it
was really really exciting, and I'm glad that Marvel is branching out and thinking
about how they can kind of incorporate and maybe expand more on these other characters
in here that just are put on screen with with the X Men, which
is just it's so cool to see more of the the Marvel characters I'm familiar
with paart up with with the X Men. Yeah, well, in the
return in the favor because I told you this or the movie tale that X
Men are in the Spiderman show, but Spiman was over the X Men show,
so they crossed that box off. Hopefully, I said they could do
even if you didn't have a show season two. Get some actual lines from
the actor, because he said, oh, dude, if they ask,
I hope he's just being coy and I hope he's already recorded something, because
my man got the fucking boot for both Spider verses. He'd better be and
beyond and if he's not, then bring him here. But and cool,
uh storyline reason for Omega read to be back? Right, he's on ice,
they got him all locked down, and yeah, Magneto sends a EMP
and just screws it all up, So that'll be I just I would.
I can't wait to see you, man. I think we'll see him at
some point this season or next season. I can't wait to see him with
this animation. And like some of those action scenes, they could really make
them pop off. So no, it's a great like an unintentional uh consequence
conseq Yeah, thank you of just his action right, and even I can't
remember who says the line, but like what did what did Magneto do?
It's like he started a war and yeah, just like oh man, this
is yeah, we're entering some juice here, we are into the juice.
Anything else about this episode? Domus, where are those thumbs at? I'm
putting two fall Guy thumbs right up? Stuff man, great time, loved
it. I got too as well to go with you, two perky thumbs
perks, it gets us to the eight jubile. Yeah. So we'll be
back next week for Tolerance is Extinction Part two. Be a little later because
we've got apes next week as well, but promise you we'll be worning. Yeah,