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This is ww Superstar Drew McIntire and
you're listening to the WWE podcast show,

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the one that everybody wants met three
sixteen and says, I just rust your

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ass is my You're gonna acknowledge me? Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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And welcome back to WWE Retcho on
the WWE Podcast on this Friday,

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May nineteenth, one week away,
eight days to be exact. From the

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Crown Jeweler, I always say Crown
jew when they're Saudi Arabia. The Night

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of Champions main event is it is
going to prove to be a very very

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good one. I am excited to
see what they have in store for us

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as we're gonna get into World Heavyweight
Champion, the first World heavyweight champion since

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two thirteen, almost ten years since
we've had a World heavyweight champion. And

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you know, last week I came
on here, I talked about the importance

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and the lineage of that World Heavyweight
Championship, and I think that tonight were

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today, depending when you're listening to
this, where you go back and listen

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or not listen, but yeah,
I guess listen and review the time when

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the World Heavyweight Championship was at its
peak. And it also is relevant because

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the draft just took place, and
that's why we are going to be reviewing

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the two thousand and four WWE draft
that took place on March twenty second,

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two thousand and four. Now,
at this point, you were two years

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into the brand split. They had
introduced the brand extension in March of two

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thousand and two, two thousand and
four, just post Strestlemania twenty and there

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were a lot of dominoes to fall
to kind of set the landscape for you.

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On the raw side, it was
highlighted by Triple H along with Evolution,

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Sean Michaels, and a newly crowned
World Heavyweight Champion in Chris Benwa.

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You also had the likes of RVUD, Chris Jericho, Christian booker T Kane,

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and a pretty good crop of talent. Over there. On the SmackDown

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side, you had the WWE Champion
Eddie Guerrero, you had the Apa curd

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Angle, the Big Show, the
Undertaker, and so on and so forth.

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So this was very significant because this
was the first time that they were

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going to be shifting the rosters around
since they brought in the brand extension.

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They had not once done a trade
like this, and the two years leading

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up to this night, so that's
two years that you had stars. You

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had given stars the chance to establish
themselves on their respective brands. So for

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Raw GM Eric Bischoff, SmackDown GM, Paul Hayman, it was really going

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to be a night that really shook
the foundation of both of their brands,

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respectively, and it really kind of
drove home the identity that both brands had

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because they had the exact same superstars
for pretty much twenty four months. So

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it was a very very interesting night
in this regard what would happen, what

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was going to go on. We
had never seen anything like this in WWE,

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and that's why when it was time
for SmackDown to make their first selection,

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it felt all that more significant.
Down, I'm just play back down

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PAULA had show thinking of the Timstone
found right, he said, gentlemen,

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my name is Paul Hayman. Don't
your irratheran opinion? And all right,

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I'm a general manager of the premium
brand in World Wrestling at the payment Paul

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Haymens SmackDown that before I could give
decision a personal note that you don't mind

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opinion Paula, you really attract the
classy audience. Terry, what is it?

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Tell me? I had Sundays SmackDown. I was physically assaulting. Sorry,

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before we get a further how awesome
is Paul Hayman Like, this is

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nineteen years ago and he just has
not missed a beat on the mic and

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him a SmackDown General Manager. He
comes out at a deck brace to the

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whole shebang. He really played this
role well, you know, he's awesome

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as the special counsel to Roman Reigns, but he really did a good job

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as the SmackDown GM during this era. But let's get through it. As

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we get to SmackDown's first selection.
I won't deal with the undertaker in my

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own personal word. Now, why
is it tis? It is time for

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Paul Haymon SmackDown to procure It's very
superstar ah way from Monday Night wrong the

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joy of the face of Ham and
he's loving this one. Mister Bishoff.

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I'm so terribly sorry, but Paul
haman Snackdown has to make the announcement that

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one of the three mere groups on
raw has been broken off. You don't

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think us who knows lady said gentlemen, Paul Halet snacked down here by welcomes

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Renee to so Renee dupri of La
Resistance. I don't know if you guys

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remembered them. They were a faction
group of three with Sylvan Groannier and Robert

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Conway aka Robert Conway that were originally
from France and then they got rebranded from

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Quebec, which was especially funny to
me as someone who has been born and

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raised in continued to live in Quebec
and he goes to SmackDown, and at

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this time, Renee Duprix really was
oh sorry about that, but he really

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was viewed as one of the future
big pieces here in WWE. He had

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a great physique, he had a
great look, and La Resistance would continue

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on with Conway and Grannier and Dupree
would get a run on SmackDown, somewhat

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of a forgettable run. He one
the tag team titles with I believe his

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name was Kenzo Suzuki, if you
guys can remember that name. But I

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believe Renee dupre even has a podcast
now. So a guy who was forgettable

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a lot, but am at this
point in time he really was a big

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piece going forward, or at least
they thought so, So they break up

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a member of Row's tag team,
and now it's time for Eric Bischoff to

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do the same for SmackDown. This
very well happened they couldn't happen here tonight,

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and now here's a gentlemen here to
make the first PI is general manager

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Eric Quia. I was just curious, you know, if you're so convinced

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the SmackDown is a superior bring,
have you asked yourself lately? Mister McMahon,

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chose Raw here tonight to hold this
lottery gonna be Anthony's they are look

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of the Drowking. That's what it
is. Lottery was a style. Well,

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Paul, I've got great news for
you. You're no longer going to

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have to deal with the issues and
whether or not to call him the world's

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greatest tag team or the self proclean
greatest tag team because Eric Bishop and Raw

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have the only definition for them now
that is ancient history. Raw, if

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please should us the acquisition. I'm
a fine young Charis Maniapley, who happens

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to be at all American the same
Minnesota woke up. I've ever seen my

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thre years in this day. So
again, think about how long ago.

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We are now Shelton Benjamin viewed as
a real up and comer here, and

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to be honest, he really had
a good run on Raw. You know,

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he wins Theater Connell Championship. He
was one of the shining stars in

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the first ever Money in the Bank
Ladder match. It really was a big

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selection. So you have a young
up incomer going to SmackDown and Reneado pre

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a young up incomer coming to Raw
and Shelton Benjam and ways that you should

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really utilize the draft to really try
and find those breakout stars and kind of

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break up tag teams. Maybe one
of the criticisms of this draft being that

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they didn't utilize that enough. They
didn't break up enough tag teams. A

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lot of groups were drafted together.
So the next pick for SmackDown it's Mark

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Jindrak. The following pick for Raw
is Nidia. Very inconsequential selections to say

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the least. So now you get
to round three, and round three is

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when things really really get shaken up, especially for Eric Bischoff and Monday Night

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Raw. Where is it once again? Time three? H wow? Yo

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yo yo yo yo. Before we
go any further, so weird to see

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johncy to come out cheered beyond belief
doctor thuganomics first time as a US champion

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he had just wanted at WrestleMania twenty
Absolutely so cool to see CNN. I

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know, like I've never been the
biggest fan of Johncy and I know a

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lot of you probably haven't warned as
well, But you really get to appreciate

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what he meant for this business when
you look up, look back on it

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and see what he did for everyone. And having him interrupt Paul Haymen before

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Paul Hayman makes a massive selection is
a really cool throwback to say the least.

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Oh and if you drap me,
save your T shirts, I ain't

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kissing your butts when the d baby, so you can choke on these nuts.

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You general manage, but I'm making
this next thick. I'm giving you

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one ball, but you still got
no You're serious, hopefully seas. Think

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about how squeaky clean John Cita is
now and has been for the last ten

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years, and think about that probo
he just got as he makes this election

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for Paul Hayman. Just so crazy
to see the difference in characters. But

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let's get to Hayman's selection finally,
yes, just legal one. No,

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it's a real pit. That's your
pit. Stick with it. You got

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no choice right now. That's George, you owe it, take it.

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I'll look you. I'm an injured
man because I love at an injured man.

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Well, I would do to yours
something that you ain't you? Who

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is you sure you want me to
read this out out? Yes? I

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want you to read it out love? Would you leave? Well, mister

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Vinshaff, since you insisted that I
picked this pay ladies and gentlemen paul him

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and smacked down its direc gleas to
welcome. True he sho so a huge,

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huge selection. Triple H going to
SmackDown. Now. I don't know

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if this was like, if this
was intentionally done to swerve everyone, or

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what exactly happened, But Triple H
never even made it to SmackDown. In

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the end, he was traded back
to Raw after the draft, so I

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don't know if they just regretted the
decision and went back, or if it

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was always meant to just kind of
shock everyone. But in the moment,

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people were absolutely floored because he had
been a staple Monday night. Raw had

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just lost the world Heavyweight Championship,
the leader of the most dominant faction in

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evolution was just really really shocking at
that time. But like I said,

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he was eventually traded back to Monday
Night Raw, and I guess I really

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don't know what their plan was here, I have to be honest, but

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Triple H would actually main event this
Monday Night Raw in a WWE Championship match

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against Eddie Guerrero that we get to
a bit later on. So Raw's next

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pick is Rhino got that god sequential. SmackDown gets Rob Van Dam who was

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then the World Tag Team Champions with
Booker T. Tijeri goes to Monday Night

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Raw. Teddy Long goes to SmackDown, and he's important too because he would

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become a long time GM of SmackDown. And then Raw gets Edge Edge,

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who had not been seen in in
ring competition for about fourteen months at this

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point, so that was a massive, massive get for Monday Night Raw,

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and then SmackDown gets Spiked Dudley rather
inconsequential, and then there were some backroom

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deals before you get to the final
selection of Monday Night raws. SmackDown would

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get the Dudley Boys, Booker T. Rico and Miss Jackie and Raw would

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get a train chuck Palumbo and get
back triple age, like I had mentioned

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earlier. So we get to Monday
night, Raw's last pick, and this

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will was not only a shocking draft
pick, but what happens two sequences right

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after following this election made it arguably
even more crazy of a segment. I

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can't believe this what I disremire everyone. That means everyone intelligible for the girl

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say it all right, get another
way. Oh my god, wait in

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the row locker room. Now,
it's just so hampless ball. I mean,

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this is gonna work out great,
because, as it turns out,

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I could really use the alp.
In fact, I've got some Look,

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I've got some udry that I need
to get taking care of. I got

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a cards they wash. I mean, I know a lot of things that

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I need to take care of.
The pot. I can't think of anybody

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better than you. You know I
I built dc W and both you would

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vince something like that, and they
stepped out with this today. Paul halet

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snooped down and and I could do
the same for wrong mister Bishop, except

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I'm willing to appear before these animals. That you call a Monday Night raw

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audience, and most of all are
I would never sell my soul to a

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piece of slime like you. So
let me spell this out for you.

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So they're even every bishaw can understand
this very bitchaf strow you stray well,

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then goodbye, goodbye. I want
to make one thing very clear, then

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you be honestly each and every one
of you people. I've been able to

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withstand too general managers. I've even
stood up to so cold Sea watch,

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and I want to make it clear
to every one of the parents. I'm

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both watching anybody that I might acquire
in the train ery. Bishop, this

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is bad then, a damn big
way. Why why because I've been a

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turdain wine y'all? Why that?
So a returning Edge is she comes to

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the ring and spears Eric Bischoff after
Paul Hayman quits. So Paul Hayman's no

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longer the GM of smacked Out,
he quits his WWE job, Kabe Edge

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comes back, spears Eric Bijoff.
And one thing is that the WWE network

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often changes Pete Guys theme songs,
like at this point, Edge was using

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the Rob Zombie never Gonna Stop Me
theme, and when he actually came out,

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the pop was massive, but I
guess they don't have the rights to

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use it on the network, so
they dubbed it over with his original theme

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from Erica Eric edging Christian and therefore
the return and the pop really doesn't seem

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loud, but if you go get
the actual footage, it was deafening.

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So Paul Hayman no longer the GM
on SmackDown Edge, returning to Raw or

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debuting on Raw in a massive,
massive way, and then all of the

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sudden, you have a huge main
event that nobody would have ever thought in

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Eddie Guerrero versus Triple H for the
WWE Championship, as Triple H for this

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for a moment was part of the
SmackDown roster, and just as in classic

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Triple H fashion, at this time
Evolution really tried to get involved. But

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when they tried to get involved,
they were now dealing with a brand new

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crop of superstars they never dealt before
in the SmackDown roster. His hat trick

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take a round to the three legals
here, this is sorry down here,

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still up the teams, turn it
up to lakes, steal the w W

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Championship. Yes, they ain't set
up, set up the stem to stand

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the dog turning away, blake to
the like what see like you say the

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time you turn goes, play ten
music, play ten music goes and the

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recreating see likes, but the ses
not it's not that triple age. I

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can't lay that. And they ground
on the top the Timmaker play and asked,

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that's pret ship write down. Then
we're just gonna slip down the line

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day sitting right it already by get
bucking ass, look the hen it's wrong

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about the bold stock down. We
got the grooms, bro walks, slip

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down long rooms or supper poreality,
tend them on everybody. Everybody back down.

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That's greadyy that comes to lit a
step down, calling out in the

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locker room, tell us fucking little
to the tenness bodies in the when the

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rals working on a tim of the
middle already and he gonna make somebody makes

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the sitings on the right, please
men us get the rules here o wrong

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slip down they call rock damn then
hit back then down round here comes came

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and look at the bit shows me
I can't bitch show was the show.

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Simon took over the topic shop because
when I'm here in the sub bit roll

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I the company, when I spent
to the trine, but that he was

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blazing round after as lot that comes
more my sound come and the camera the

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share and it rained it down out
of mind at the character and when I'm

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down and it was there in the
try. My god, I can't give

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my life, but the bar mine
a right line spake down. Can I

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get home? Now? So Raw
goes off the air with a massive SmackDown

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versus Raw brawl led by Steve Austin
at the end, who was the then

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sheriff of Monday Night Raw. And
you know, we always talk about how

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like the Raw versus SmackDown stuff is
overblown current day in WWE, but this

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was a moment in time where it
really felt special because you never saw them

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cross pass. Ever, this was
the first draft in two years, the

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first draft in the existence of the
brand split, so this really felt important.

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Now, there wasn't any monumental shifts. Obviously, Triple H goes to

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SmackDown for a brief second but then
gets traded back to Raw. You have

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the Dudley Boys changing brands, Booker
T and RVD Shelton, Benjamin were needed

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pre nothing major, right, like
no monumental trades, but still making some

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trades did feel important. You got
a breakout start in some Copti and Shelton

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Benjamin, you got a breakout start
in some capacity in Renee Duprie. You

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know, you still gain a lot
from separating the brands. And I really

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hope WWE is going to stick to
their own rules here moving forward. And

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this was a looking back. It
just shows that when you really do it

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here to your own rules, it
could mean a ton in the grand scheme

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of things. And I hope that
they really do this here. And you

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know what, you don't have to
do it every year. You could do

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it every two years. I think
three would maybe be a bit long,

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but like you know, they just
did it this year a year and a

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half. That's not too bad now. Albeit they were breaking their own rules

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a lot of the time, so
maybe that's why they were able to wait

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so long. But I really do
think there's a major benefit to this adhering

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to your own rules, and this
is a case in point of it.

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Away, guys, that's all I
got for you today. I hope you

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enjoyed the two thousand and four WWE
Draft as always, you can get me

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great weekend. I'll be back on
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