WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.040 --> 00:00:06.719 Steve Rivera and Jacob Salles. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:12.679 Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to winning the 3 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.839 Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jane. Now 4 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:20.039 we have to Adam with breaking news, his eye on the ball, breaking 5 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:26.600 news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. So we got some NBA news. NBA, 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:34.320 the NBA, the Raptors for John Tae Porter forever forever for gambling violation. 7 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.439 Does this say how old he is? He's like, he's twenty four. 8 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:38.920 He's twenty four, twenty four years old. Okay, So now he 9 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:41.560 was the guy who was like on a he was a G League guy who 10 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.679 was on a contract, right, he was on the G League Raptors. 11 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:52.320 He disclosed confidential information to betters limited his participation in at least one game while 12 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:56.039 he was with the Raptors and bet on NBA games while playing in the G 13 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.240 League. Oh he bet too. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. 14 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.480 He thought he was. He was basically shaving, you know, uh, 15 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.159 you know his pa. Yeah, his performance. I didn't realize he 16 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.959 was gambling too. Holy gosh, he saw that. Charles Barkley said, 17 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:15.200 you know, he was a little disappointed that it was it was a lifetime 18 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.519 ban, then it should have been a five year ban, But he understood, 19 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:21.000 you know, he said, I know, I'm talking through both sides, 20 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.560 but a five year Evan so he's twenty nine years old, he'd be 21 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.400 out of the league's yeah, yeah, nobody's gonna come back and get him 22 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.519 in five years. Anyway. I'm sure that Europe doesn't apply to this. 23 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.000 Probably not, So he'll be fine if he decided to go somewhere else, 24 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.879 which is probably his next move anyway, given that he was a two day 25 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:41.480 or two way contract guy. Right, Yeah, he wasn't getting much playing 26 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.239 time as it is. He's been in and out of the league anyway. 27 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:49.239 Yeah. Some college football news the NCAA approved the two minute warning as well 28 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:53.519 as helmet communication for this coming season. Yeah, and in more than that, 29 00:01:53.280 --> 00:02:00.120 and or somewhere else with your with your information, with the with the 30 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.359 the trouble that kids could get into and they won't be suspended. I missed 31 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.400 something that what well, you you told me something before the show started about 32 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.479 they have they can't suspend somebody. Oh that, yeah, that's it. 33 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.360 That's the the n c DOUA a rule that that the Department of Education has 34 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:22.240 ruled I completely, I forgot. We talked about who are I know the 35 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:30.080 Department of Education is ruled that college athletes can't be suspended while they're being investigated 36 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.479 for breaking the law, you know, sexual crimes, you know, those 37 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.840 kinds of things, because it violates their due process. That Now, on 38 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:46.680 special circumstances, you can if you feel you have to suspend the person for 39 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:53.199 the safety of others. But you know, an athlete accuses another athlete of 40 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:58.680 a sexual misconduct or whatever. Until that investigation is completed and there's a determination 41 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.080 made, you can't suspen be that athlete. So in other words, let's 42 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:07.240 say our our friend, the quarterback, Jade Delora, that stuff's just coming 43 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.960 out right, and he's you know, they're they're investigating whether or not he 44 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:17.759 committed a sexual assault in high school. You can't suspend him until you've done 45 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:23.120 the investigation and determined whether it's true. So for a guy who's covered cops 46 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:30.159 as you have those investigations, aren't this This is not an hour long CSI 47 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:32.039 no, you know, a month. Well, look how long it took 48 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:36.439 for them to get the ASU thing done. Right my point. So you 49 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.360 you this happens in October, right, it may not be solved for another 50 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:44.159 six seven months. Yeah. Well, and and probably the response there is 51 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:46.800 gonna have to be, well, you got to get this investing. You 52 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.319 gotta get this taken care of right now. You know, you got no 53 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:54.719 more taking you know, forever to investigate things. You know that they're not 54 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:59.919 I mean, and it's like, okay, So and it goes to your 55 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.639 thing about how much of a big deal is they acue probation. All the 56 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.159 coaches are gone that were involved in this, all the people committed the penalties, 57 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:11.360 they've already done the bowl band how much does it mean? Right? 58 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:16.000 So yeah, no, but Steven's I've always wondered why some of this stuff 59 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:20.120 takes so damn long. Yeah, anyways, right, because there's so many 60 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:25.680 of them out there. Yeah, But for this two minute warning and the 61 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.199 helmet communication, the NCAA will allow one player to receive communication from a coach. 62 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.279 The players will be identified by a green dot on the back of his 63 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:39.519 helmet, and the communication will be shut off within fifteen seconds remaining on the 64 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.040 play call or when the ball is snap, which is the NFL. I 65 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:47.600 saw somebody tweeted out, okay, you got why don't you just finish one 66 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:53.639 more step and start calling college football the NFL James name change the name to 67 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.759 National Football. But I like these changes. I like to, you know, 68 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.959 get rid of all this you know, science dealing and putting up curtains 69 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:05.639 on your sideline and and these cards that have all these pictures on them and 70 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:10.759 the hands signals and all that stuff. Now that means probably one let one, 71 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:14.399 one or two fewer grad assistants or something like that, because you don't 72 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.920 need that many guys on the sidelines doing signals. But I do like both 73 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.560 of those rules and the two minute warning. It's cool, get up, 74 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:24.879 go to the bathroom, come back, catch into that. Yeah. Some 75 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:30.399 college basketball news, Yukon's standout Stefan Castle is declaring for the NBA draft. 76 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:34.600 So it's three of them now, I think, right, Clinging and Caravan 77 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:40.199 right as well. Right, so he's projected as the top Yeah, I 78 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.240 think he was going to come on anyway. Yeah, Bob, we heard 79 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.279 he'll get some guys. Yeah, he's fine, and Duke transfer Mark Mitchell's 80 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:51.079 headed to Missouri. So they've had seven guys a bunch of guys. So 81 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.439 so no, you know what, the one thing and then there's only three 82 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.879 guys left on the Kentucky roster. Right, well, let me say this 83 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.000 if I could. Arizona's lost four or five whatever. You know. The 84 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.959 one thing, and maybe haven't been paid attention, is that there haven't been 85 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.279 a lot of complainers. Oh, he hasn't got anybody in the portal yet. 86 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:11.120 But the portal hasn't even started yet, because you don't even know who's 87 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:14.199 in the portal yet. I mean officially, right, not officially, but 88 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:15.839 you do. But some of the better ones could still be out there. 89 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:23.240 Yep. It's it's nuts because and again you know, Arizona fan, just 90 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:27.360 look, why why are you transferring from Duke? I mean, that's a 91 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.680 hell of an education, right, Why are you're transferring from Stanford? They've 92 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.439 lost some guys, you know, some of the I mean, some of 93 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:36.000 these are incredible schools, but in a lot of in some of these cases, 94 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.959 the guys are getting their degrees. And then let me ask you this 95 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.199 too, because this is the question I wasn to asked you about the APR. 96 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.600 We talked about the level yesterday. Okay, so so you you you're 97 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.319 a student before before all this, of the five hundred and eighty like you, 98 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:54.360 I'll use that number, five hundred athletes, student athletes come here, 99 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.720 How many of them really wanted an education? Well? None of the football 100 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.600 or basketball players. Okay, so there's one hundred, one hundred. I'm 101 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.800 sorry that that was cheap. Twenty five No, you know what I'm saying. 102 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:10.319 Yeah, uh, I'm gonna say twenty percent. Say good, No, 103 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.160 they really want the education. Oh no, I'm gonna go way higher. 104 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:16.399 Particular because when you're talking about that want or don't that? Do want? 105 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.040 Okay? That do? Oh, you're saying that don't don't. Yeah, 106 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:25.839 maybe maybe it's probably it's probably about I'm gonna say about twenty yeah, 107 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:32.160 twenty percent of football players, okay, and probably I'm gonna go more like 108 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:39.759 sixty or seventy percent of men's basketball players and everybody else went through high school 109 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:44.240 try to get good in sports in order to get a college, and their 110 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.519 parents right the college for their parents because their parents are pushing right. Okay. 111 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.279 So now now it's a case where you go to school and then you 112 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.959 leave. I thought I thought Lamont's example was perfect. You go to all 113 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.720 these schools. How many credits and all this stuff? Do you have to 114 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.199 finish the set of scool? Many of you are actually you're going to get 115 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.079 a degree? And where are you going to get it from? Right? 116 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.680 Because there's a lot of there's a lot of things that go into that. 117 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:11.360 Because I have a personal experience with it, not my person, my daughter, 118 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:15.759 all right, she wanted she was going on what's called a three to 119 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:20.639 two engineering degree where she went to Scripts College in California for three years, 120 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.199 and then she was going to finish it at another engineering college for the last 121 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.480 two years. Well, when she decided to come to Arizona for the for 122 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.960 the last two years, it became three because a bunch of her classes from 123 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:39.000 didn't transfer. These guys are transferring school three four times. How many of 124 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.159 their credits are moving from place to place? And that's my point? And 125 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.000 how many really care about that? Anyway? Exactly? And that's kind of 126 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.279 where I was thinking. And you know, you deal with you see I 127 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.519 was a transfer to right, Well, you lost some credits, right, 128 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:56.159 a lot enough to keep you another year? Yeah, yeah, right, 129 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.759 So it's not easy. And do they care? I don't think they care. 130 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:05.039 There's a bunch of to me, those players who are doing that are 131 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.600 way less about the education and more about being on the field and maybe ni 132 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.559 L or whatever. All they want to do is play. And the school 133 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.799 is secondary because if you really give a crap about your your education, you're 134 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:22.200 gonna go to a good school. You're gonna stay there and and take advantage 135 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.159 of having a scholarship to that. So that was my point. Also some 136 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.039 college transfers. Justin Pippen, the son of Bull's legend Scottie Pippen, he's 137 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:37.679 coming to Michigan from Siena. Oh he's already in college. Okay, but 138 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:43.679 see, okay, there's an example. All right, he might be bettering 139 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.679 his Now, whether or not this is really what he's trying to do, 140 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:52.879 he might be bettering his his academic piece of it. Because Michigan is a 141 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.799 great school. I can't I can't speak to how good a school he is. 142 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:58.440 But you say, I've got a degree in Michigan. But he's Scotty 143 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.799 Pippen's kids, I'm guessing he's in there for This is the example I used 144 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.279 a few months ago, Jay, Because you know this dog, the dogs, 145 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.600 the Dogs, the dog truck A B C. D. Dogs right, 146 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:11.960 if you're a seed dog and you have a chance to be an a 147 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:16.759 dog in which I do. But by winning the seat place, trying to 148 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.639 get to an a place Michigan, which you have better performance, you have 149 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.039 a better chance of whatever. And and in part of that tweet with frand 150 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.639 Or Froschelle yesterday was it's gonna devastate the mid majors because if you're if you're 151 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.279 a mid major and you're good, what are you gonna try to do? 152 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.799 Go to be the A dog? And that's what they're doing. They're doing, 153 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.320 That's what they're all doing. It's killing and even with it, even 154 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.519 the A dogs though, are losing, sure a dogs and they're going to 155 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.600 be a dog somewhere else, a dog somewhere. Or if what about the 156 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.080 kids that go and don't find the place, and I wonder what that looks 157 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.600 like, or if anybody they wind up anywhere? Or are they done? 158 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.679 Are they out of college now, they're out doing whatever, which leads to 159 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:00.919 the point of do they really care? Already need to bite him in the 160 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.600 butt by doing this? Yeah, I hear you. This was an interesting 161 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:09.360 story. I saw baseball ex Braves player Gary Cooper petitioning for just one day 162 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:15.159 back in the majors to qualify for a pension. Ooh, he's now sixty 163 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.840 seven. He spent forty two days with the Braves in nineteen eighty, but 164 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.879 you needed forty three, so he fell one day short of the minimum. 165 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.320 Oh so he's petitioning. Yeah, put me on the team for a day, 166 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.919 right, That's all he needs is a day, tronn now man, 167 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:33.720 just put him on the roster, le him, go him up in the 168 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:39.440 bullpen, Jim Morris, the rookie. You did what else? Yeah? 169 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:45.360 Just the NBA playoffs start tomorrow. Well, the last playing games James are 170 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:50.240 tonight the Bulls in Miami and Sacramento in New Orleans, and then officially Saturday 171 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:58.519 marks ten am Orlando and Cleveland, Phoenix and Minnesota on Saturday Philly in New 172 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:03.360 York. Three and the Lakers. And did I hear right that? Okay? 173 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.399 The Philadelphi's in the plane the one that they won. They won, 174 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.080 so they were in the playing tournament, right, and they're like the second 175 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:16.840 favorite to win the East because a long time. Yeah. So, and 176 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.759 and he's back, yeah back? Oh okay, all right, so did 177 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.759 you I think he might have buried the lead the transfer from here, that's 178 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.519 going to Mississippi. Oh okay, yeah, let's throw that one out there. 179 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.399 Jack Cory something, Cory Krossky, merit, the kid from the kid 180 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.200 from from New Mexico, the running back from New Mexico fifteen hundred yards in 181 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:43.279 the last couple of season, got YadA uh had committed to Arizona. He 182 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:46.919 has now changed his mind. He's going to oh Miss. Now. That 183 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:52.799 comes on the heels of Damian Gonzales, the running back from martinezcuse me, 184 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.679 Gonzales, Martinez, Garcia, all the same. You can see that because 185 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:05.399 because I'm one of them, Damian Martinez from Oregon State, who was here 186 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:11.080 the last two days on a on an official visit. So maybe he thinks 187 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.919 the running back room might be get a little too crowded. We're speculating on 188 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.600 that. But Corey Krossky, mayor is decided not to come to Arizona and 189 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:24.759 he's going to Old Miss. Interesting stuff. What else did I have? 190 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.720 I had a couple of things that I was going through here. Oh, 191 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.600 Washington State President Kirk Schultz, who's been trying to guide guide them through all 192 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:37.240 this PAC twelve stuff in the realignment and their school ended up not landing anywhere. 193 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:43.559 He has announced that he's planning to retire. Uh when his contract or 194 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.960 not one contract at the mid year June. Was he quoted? He was? 195 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.000 He quoted? The reason I asked is if he was, I want 196 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.720 to hear what the quote was and then I'll translate. What do you reason 197 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.200 I got to get out of dodge? I don't want this crap either, 198 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.039 he said. These last eight years of the president of Washington State University have 199 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.600 been some of the best years of my life, my career. I'm inlessly 200 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.960 proud of what we've accomplished together to educate students, conduct groundbreaking research, and 201 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.799 improve the lines of Washington need. In the same year spelled like thy four 202 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.240 and I feel like I got kicked in the you know what the last two 203 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.840 years to our membership in the PAC twelve. Bobby Robbins and I are going 204 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:28.799 fishing. All right? That's not fun? Okay? It would you want 205 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.480 to go fishing? Exactly? Okay, let's take our break. We're going 206 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:37.519 to come back. Rick LeRose, former former water polo coach at the University 207 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.159 of Arizona. We'll be joining us and we'll kick some stuff around. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of your bad bugs, 274 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.119 termites, bees, or rodents. Serving Tucson and Southern Arizona since nineteen forty 275 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.960 seven. Go to azypest dot com to schedule your free evaluation Today. Steve 276 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:33.200 Rivera and Jacon Salez they have their eye on the ball on Tucson's sports stage 277 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:40.680 yet Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live on the IHEID Radio wapp Hey, welcome 278 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:42.640 back to on the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 279 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.759 he's Jagan's aust Now in the fall we have Rick LaRose, the former 280 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:52.480 water polo coach at Arizona. I didn't know that. I didn't know that 281 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:57.599 we couldn't help ourselves, Rick had we had to bring that well, you 282 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:00.279 know what to have the day's US coach and swimming in the water polo. 283 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:04.200 It was a lot of fun. So what you said it was like nineteen 284 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:10.720 seventy seven. I can't remember the time I did a water polo swimming from 285 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:17.880 seventy three to seventy nine. Wow, Wow, started golf in seventy seven 286 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.880 seventy eight. So after you did all three sports at the same time for 287 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:23.440 a while, Yeah, that's you busy. Just let's let's start here. 288 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.359 We'll talk about the golf obviously in a second. How did you get here 289 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:33.079 in the first place. I was teaching high school in southern California and Tuftin 290 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.480 High School and Foothill High School, and I was coaching swimming and water polo 291 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.160 and baseball and basketball. And I got a chance to come here to be 292 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:47.119 the water polo coach. And Bob Davis was the head swimming coach then, 293 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:51.000 and he said we need to add water polo to make our program a little 294 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:55.400 better. And I got to come here and the rest is history. And 295 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.839 then Daves tracked me and knew need golf coach and you knew I played golf. 296 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.759 He said, hey, you want to be the golf coach, and 297 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.759 the rest was history. Were you good at golf back then? I was 298 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.640 either going to try to turn pro and play golf. Wow, And I 299 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:10.759 said, you know what, there's a lot of guys that are as good 300 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.200 as me that aren't making it. I'm going to go to Arizona. That 301 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:18.079 sounds like a great opportunity. Well, then you became an incredible shortstop for 302 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.039 the Tucson Summer League's baseball team, and so you know, I mean, 303 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:26.720 you made history here in this town. Rick, Well, you know, 304 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.000 I'll tell you that's because Jay carried it all the time. He hit home 305 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:32.720 runs all the time, put the time his back. Well, yeah, 306 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:36.079 good, let me go there, because I've heard some stories, and I 307 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.960 know these stories. You're one of the more competitive guys in this city, 308 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:41.839 or used to be. At least you used to pitch fast pitch, right, 309 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:47.079 I guess I played. I played fast pitch. We played on the 310 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:52.359 played on the Tucson Rallers, which won the World championship in nineteen seventy six, 311 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.440 was the first World championship won by any team in the state of Arizona. 312 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:02.200 And then we played amateurs all after that and got to a bunch of 313 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.759 world championships, and then Jay got me into playing baseball. I retired from 314 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.200 softball and got me playing baseball. Was he was he? He was really 315 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:14.039 good a competitive dude. Oh yeah, yeah, we yeah, Well all 316 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:15.559 those guys were, you know, because they were all guys who had been 317 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.880 either athletes or coaches at Arizona. So yeah, we that's why we were 318 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.640 good, Steve, because everybody was so competitive. Wait a second with that, 319 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.480 because you told me about the pro picture that you know, Jason Hockemy, 320 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:32.160 so where did he Where did he bat? You? Coach? Uh? 321 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.319 I'm from the when I started out, I was batt in like third, 322 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:38.160 fourth, fifth. By the time I got retired from baseball, I 323 00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:45.599 was probably. Yeah, we all we were all on that ladder, Steve. 324 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.119 As as as the years went on, and there was a point where 325 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.640 I just didn't bat anymore. It was just I just stopped. So so 326 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:57.119 Rick, uh, you know, look, I know you're gonna you're you're 327 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.200 you're a humble guy, and you're gonna you're gonna want to you know, 328 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:03.559 you're not gonna want to hear that. You know, when I say that 329 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.279 what's happening over there at the country club with with the facility and stuff like 330 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.160 that, you know, you kind of of the foundation for that. And 331 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.119 you really need to say that because you know, three national championships both you 332 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.559 know, with the men and the women over there, you built, you 333 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:21.640 built a program that continues to be one of the top programs in the country. 334 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:23.400 When you look back on that, do you, I mean you you 335 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:27.079 okay with that? You accept that as as sort of a legacy here with 336 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:32.359 Golf of Arizona. Well, like I told everybody, yes, say it 337 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:37.759 took me forty years to get this practice facility finally built and done. Uh. 338 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.200 I have a lot of different scenarios. They had thirty three different site 339 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.279 scenarios at one time, and we worked on it a long time, and 340 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.480 we had a bunch of plans and we had some you know people that Arizona 341 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:56.480 National, Souhilo, La Paloma, Bucsan National. They all helped us over 342 00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.200 the years, given us a chance to have a place to play. We 343 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.640 never had our own place, and we just felt like Tucson. I felt 344 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:08.079 like Tucson Country Club would be a a great partner for the University of Arizona. 345 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:14.160 It's the only private country club in town. It's gated, you have 346 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:21.160 limited access, and it's safe for our student athletes. And the membership was 347 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:26.359 overwhelming in favor of doing this and the project. It's incredible. I am 348 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:32.279 so proud of what our donors and our people have done here. Yeah, 349 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.400 I know you talked about that. You did list off some of the places 350 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:40.359 you have been in total. How many places did Arizona call home before this? 351 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.839 Well, when we started out, there was you know, Tucson Country 352 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:49.160 Club, there was forty nine ers, there was Oral Valley, there was 353 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.200 Skyline, and that was about it. Those are the play in Randolph Park. 354 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.759 Those are kind of the places we had to call every day to see 355 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.599 if we could get a time and go play. And then La Poloma and 356 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.960 Ben the Canyon, the Stone Canyon and Star Pass and they all came on 357 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.680 board, so we but we every day we had to call somewhere, Hey, 358 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.480 can you guys sit us in today? Can we get some tea times? 359 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.960 Wow? And we did that for a long time, but we were 360 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:21.359 pretty successful and now we've got I think the very best practice facility for a 361 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:25.319 university in the whole country. So tell it give us a little bit some 362 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:29.519 of the attributes of the of the building itself, what they're getting by being 363 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:32.680 out there. You know, state of the art stuff, you know, 364 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:34.680 the locker rooms, all that comes with it. What are some of the 365 00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:38.000 things that maybe you drive by the building you don't see that that are in 366 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:42.519 there. Well, there's obviously locker rooms for the men and women teams. 367 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:51.000 There's offices for the men and women coaches. There's a study area and a 368 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:56.079 meeting area. There's a workout area, there's a putting lab, there's a 369 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.559 kitchen, and there's some lounge areas. There's a chance bean's room showing off 370 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:06.200 all the memorabilia of the path. There's a hitting base, we had all 371 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:12.160 the electronics, and then there's the practice facility right behind it, the driving 372 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:18.440 range, the short game area, and the practice putting green for the team. 373 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.359 Plus they have access to all the rest of the Tucson Country Cup facilities 374 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:29.599 and it's incredible. The golf course has been redone. It's a challenge and 375 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.799 it's a great challenge for the best female and male players as well. So 376 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.279 they've got it all going there. It's it's an old course, rick you 377 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.720 know, we know it's been around there for a long time. Uh, 378 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.039 And you said that the course has been redone. I'm guessing they had to 379 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:47.799 do some things to probably lengthen it and that kind of stuff. What's some 380 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.279 of the work that they had to do there. Well, we did. 381 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:56.519 We decided we need the greens were well past their life expectancy and we need 382 00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:00.240 to redo that, and so we brought in Mike Google is an architect. 383 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:06.400 You give us a design, and Mike Gogelan and our superintendent Kent McCutcheon really 384 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.480 did a great job of putting a new design in place. The layout of 385 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.920 the course is still pretty similar to what we had, but all the greens 386 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:18.000 are brand new and all the surrounds around the greens are brand new, and 387 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.960 they lengthened quite a bit. But they also had the members in mind. 388 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:29.799 We have tea boxes and teen grounds from four thousand yards all the way back 389 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.920 to the back tee, which is well over seventy eight hundred yards, so 390 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.960 you can pick your poison. Yeah, yeah, no question. I was 391 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.319 talking to the builder, I think his name was jv if if I can 392 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.000 remember, greatly six million dollars from his end, How was the total cost 393 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.000 well, I haven't got the final number on it, but it was we 394 00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:55.799 probably spent around fourteen million, which was all donated. It was all donated 395 00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:02.319 money, and it was by WOD boosters and we raised all that money and 396 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:07.599 that worked out really well. So that was a total cost and it worked 397 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:10.480 out pretty well, to tell you the truth, and we are very happy 398 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.319 about it. So did you did? Did they at least give you a 399 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.799 room over there or anything like the Rick Loose room or like the Rick LaRose 400 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:23.240 kitchen, you know, something like something like that. Actually they I did 401 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.880 happen to see last night. They put a little uh little sign up that 402 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:33.680 says, uh, the Rick Lorose Coaching Suite. There you go, there 403 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.279 you go. I have a little sign anyway, and then and then a 404 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:42.680 picture of you in your baseball uniform. Right, there's no pictures. You 405 00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:47.440 know. Jay used to make baseball cardsplo US. That's right. We did 406 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.039 get baseball cards. There's a few of those floating around somewhere. Yes, 407 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.279 I forgot about it. Probably not worth much. There were you know, 408 00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.640 baseball there were no you know, you know what, I'm gonna take mine 409 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.920 to to George over there. Sports cards. I can see what I can 410 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:07.079 get for that. So so the course, the course itself rick it's you 411 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:10.759 know, look, all the courses have been built around here, you know, 412 00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:12.960 are different from what Tucson Country Club is. It's one of the traditional 413 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.319 kind of you know, Tucson National type of course. Is that is how 414 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:23.119 does that help the program and the players at Arizona? Is that is that 415 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:27.599 more of the type of course that they see out there for tournaments or what's 416 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.640 it? What's it going to be like as far as that goes, well, 417 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.519 it's it's a parkland style golf course obviously was built in nineteen forty seven, 418 00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:42.039 and we have the big trees and the relatively flat area and parallel fairways 419 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:47.039 in some places, and it gives you a chance to you have to drive 420 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:48.720 the ball well because you drive the ball crooked, you're going to be in 421 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.960 the trees and the desert courses, you can start the ball off over over 422 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.000 the desert crooked or faded back into play here. You got to you got 423 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.359 to make a pretty good game plan and get the ball and play off the 424 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.799 tee and all the greens. The greens are bent greens, so you're going 425 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:11.680 to play on just superb fast vent green surfaces and the sturrounds are all new. 426 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.759 Everything is new, so the golf course next fall, the golf course 427 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.160 will really be what it's supposed to look like because with new grafts, we 428 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.200 didn't overseed it this year, and our superintendent's got a lot of work to 429 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.799 do on getting everything to the playing conditions he would like and we would like 430 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:34.160 that. It's fabulous and I think it's a real asset to our players to 431 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.559 be able to play, and of course like that. Yeah, no question. 432 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.559 You're talking to a couple of players yesterday. They're very pleased obviously, 433 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.519 and talking to coach. I know. The one question I asked her was 434 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:45.960 what does it mean to recruits? I mean, that's kind of maybe changes 435 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.200 the game. Don't you wish you were about twenty years younger? As the 436 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:53.599 coach wish I was twenty years younger, But I'm glad I'm not coaching anymore. 437 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.559 College athletics is getting to be on hand. I think we wish you 438 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.519 to talk to you about it is a great recruiting tool. You know, 439 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.720 in the in the past, college kids and when we started out, they 440 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.960 are really interested in who was coaching, who could get them to the next 441 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.880 level and uh, having a good place to play. But then as you 442 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:21.759 know, as as generations change, everybody's looking for bells and whistles and you 443 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.920 know, what can you do for me? And uh? And kids are 444 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.480 looking for that, they're looking for the blame. They're looking for the great 445 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.519 place to play and to have a place of their own. And we have 446 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.559 that now. And Jim and Laura will do a great job recruiting kids to 447 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:38.400 those facilities, and they'll do a good job coaching them too. Well, 448 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.480 you talked about the type of game you've got to have in order to you 449 00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.960 know, be successful on this golf course, So you know, will players 450 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.079 come in and have to you know, adapt to that? Uh? You 451 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.799 know is that? What did you find that? Or are these these players 452 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.400 just good enough to play however they need to play on a given course. 453 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.920 Well, I'll tell you if you're not long, I mean, being long 454 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.960 and having some length is really a critical thing. And almost all golf now, 455 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.000 if you've got length, you've got an advantage. But this was kind 456 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.000 of golf course where you don't have to be super long, but you're going 457 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.240 to need a short game. And even the players that have length, we're 458 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:15.960 going to need a short game because you're not going to hit all the greens 459 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.599 all the time, and you better learn to get it up and down because 460 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.960 we give us an elevation on some of the greens and you need to hit 461 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.880 a variety of shots. And as soon as the course of the chures, 462 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.079 it's going to get even more variable than net in no sense, and it's 463 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.559 going to be it's going to give our kids a great chance to play, 464 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:36.319 and players that come in here are going to learn to get better. Yeah, 465 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.559 which is always good. We have two minutes. Can you talk about 466 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.799 that athlete the way it is today and how happy you are being out. 467 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.279 We've had Kendrea, We've had all the Andy Lopez and all these guys who 468 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:52.359 say, I'm glad I'm not doing this anymore. Well, I'm really glad 469 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:59.000 I'm not doing it. I think this nil is. I don't really believe 470 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:04.400 that's sustainable. Yeah, that's not money you need one year. That's money 471 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:09.039 you need every year. And that's hard to do that. And as far 472 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.559 as the transfer portal goes, you've got players and a certain sport will play 473 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:20.559 in three different universities in one calendar year. That's that's ridiculous and to recruit 474 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.000 players from somebody else's team, and well, we can't give you more money 475 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.680 than the next guy. That's that's gonna be rough. You know, we've 476 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.319 seen that a lot, especially with the SEC. You know, they they're 477 00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:37.200 doing pretty well. But you know they're at in Texas and Oklahoma now and 478 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.079 those guys think they got money. Now, wait, do they see what 479 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:44.079 Texas is going to bring to the table. So uh and I just heard 480 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:52.359 today that fat X is getting twenty five million to Memphis for their NIL program. 481 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.000 It's crazy, it is, yeah, no question, it's certainly out 482 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:00.119 of hand, certainly out of hand. Well, thank you very much. 483 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.200 Always appreciated, Rick. So let me know when you need a fourth out 484 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:09.239 thereon at Tucson Country Club, I'll make myself available. I got to be 485 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.400 done by about two o'clock. That's great boy. Of course you'll have to 486 00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.960 bring Jay along, un it, No, that's me. I'm the one. 487 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.599 Steve doesn't golf it, get him out of here. It's just me. 488 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.320 So just let me know when you need a fourth. I'll be there. 489 00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.880 Just Jay, Yeah, just jk. Yeah, guys, thank you 490 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.239 so much. It's great talking about it. Thanks about you. Rick, 491 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.000 talk to you soon. Ricky. You don't know what you're in for. 492 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:35.199 Hey, man, I can play well, no something, it's the other 493 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:38.519 stuff. I'm doing forty nine ers tomorrow, so you go. It should 494 00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.239 be fun. All right, Hey, thanks Rick, appreciate it. Let's 495 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.199 go and take our last break. We're gonna come back. We'll take your 496 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.119 calls five two zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty you 497 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.760 know, continuing discussion about nil right another coach. He just says, I'm 498 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.000 so glad I'm not in there. So all right, stick around. If 499 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.440 you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for newly forty 500 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:00.679 years. Now. Take a look back at the Ludolsen era in my new 501 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.320 book, Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through the eyes 502 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.000 of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight to the 503 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.480 coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them 504 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.119 twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from 505 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.920 Lout is an insight to how he built the program into a national powerhouse. 506 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.760 What one email me at Steve dot rivera ninety five at gmail dot com. 507 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:30.559 Hi. 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A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity 538 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.920 to work in the sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect 539 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.239 for those looking for a part time job or a second income. Come be 540 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:54.079 a part of a winning team. The A Team. Apply online today at 541 00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:01.360 ateamsecurity dot net, Streamy Live. I heard Radio Wow. This is Eye 542 00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.559 on the Wall with Steve and Jake and Salez Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, 543 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.960 welcome back to Winning the Ball here on fock Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 544 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.440 Steve. He's Jay. We got to add him with up for fifteen minutes. 545 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.199 Steve, your voice is getting worse as the show goes on. It 546 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:28.519 sound like Mickey. It's like it's just getting worse. I don't know what 547 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:34.679 it is. I feel like Peter Rady. You know that reference Peter by 548 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.920 Pretty Bunch. Yeah, I do know that Brady. Okay, it was 549 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.719 there was an episode when his voice was changing while they were trying to record 550 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.280 a song they were doing. They'd got a contract to do a song and 551 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.880 his voice is changing pretty much. All right, man, Adam, you 552 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.599 know you're you're you might be a little bit of an older soul than most 553 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:57.440 of our other interns, right, I do. My dad's a little on 554 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.639 the older side. So did we ask you about you know, Tina Turner 555 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.000 down the summer? You know, all of them are. I was with 556 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.519 Kevin when he Oh okay, oh that's why. So yeah, even Kevin, 557 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.519 who's pretty an old soul already. Yeah, yeah, okay. We 558 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.719 could still take calls on your worst moments. Although what who called it? 559 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.199 The woman the moment who called it? Oh yeah, she wanted it. 560 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.239 Savannah Bananas. Man, those guys are fun. You know, they just 561 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.320 irreverent. It just crazy. Let me tell you, are you are you 562 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.039 paying one hundred and fifty four ticket? No? No, But I go 563 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:34.519 see them. I go watch them for like twenty bucks for a ticket or 564 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.039 whatever. You know, I think a lot of people would you know, 565 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.880 for fifty sixty bucks. Yeah, but you know it's amazing. But you 566 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:44.920 know, what they've created is incredible. If you ever just go Google or 567 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.280 go to YouTube and look up Savannah Bananas and some of the stuff that they 568 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.119 do. It's it's really it's hilarious. Some of it's hilarious. Yeah, 569 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.119 and it's good sometimes good baseball. And again, ay you know something just 570 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.280 different, right, you know, from from you know, the regular stuff. 571 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:01.679 So it would be fun. Yeah, find an all star team of 572 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.400 baseball players here in this town. Yeah, go up against those guys. 573 00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.800 Yeah, be fun. Yeah, there's some guys play of guys here. 574 00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.199 Yeah. So anybody want to call and give us your worst moments in terms 575 00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:19.320 of being a fan? What happened? Circumstances all that? Yeah? Well 576 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.079 who was it? H It was Sammy right, was talking about It was 577 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.599 Sammy talking about that that he thought that it feels like the Cardinals got ripped 578 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.159 off in that Super Bowl? Was it Sammy? Well he's a Cardinal guy, 579 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.760 Sammy that you know saying that the Cardinals won that Super Bowl? Oh 580 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.000 yeah, yeah, someone stepped out or someone step o. There was that 581 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:42.440 catch that I can't remember was the Antonio Holmes? Yeah, I made that 582 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.639 catch with his toes. And that's why you're here. You give us some 583 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.559 man. You you've been money today. Okay, you have been money today. 584 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.239 I'm gonna give you that said, and they could you give me some 585 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:59.119 money now, Yeah, I'd love I'd love to have somebody. He's just 586 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:00.599 said, I can't wait to get the hell you're really good paid, you're 587 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.599 a good guy. Yeah, appreciate the fact that you're here, but that 588 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:09.280 you're you're already gonna leave us? What the hell? Right? That the 589 00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:14.719 running back who's left. I guess a lot of people are talking about that 590 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.599 because he would you decided with his with his you and m coach. But 591 00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.079 he came here, right probably I'll bring him here and now he's gone, 592 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.280 I think there might be another player for if I'm making a trade and we're 593 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:32.119 trading, we're trading Damian Martinez for him. Make that trade every day. 594 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.280 Well, here was a quote from some from apparently this could be a fake 595 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:40.039 thing, but it's a quote from Martinez. Arizona definitely set the tone for 596 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:45.280 the rest of my visits. Martinez said, they're definitely a contender or else 597 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:49.679 I wouldn't to waste this visit. But it's more, it's more and better 598 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.840 than I expected. Good, all right, But when you're the first guy, 599 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:57.280 yeah, it's it's yeah. Yeah. In recruiting, you want to 600 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.039 be the last, the first, right you not even get to be the 601 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.440 last gy because you already made a decision right right, So we'll see. 602 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.880 But I'll tell you what, I'm sure I know, no Arizona fan, 603 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.400 we're no problem with him coming. So here you go and I a deal 604 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.320 right now comes now it comes that part right? How deep the part? 605 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:19.159 Right? And look and you know that he the other schools he's looking at. 606 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.360 I'll have the pockets, you know, Miami h I think it was 607 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.760 the Mississippi State Tennessee. Tennessee is well, yeah, and you're party fourth 608 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.320 on that list from an an il standpoint. But on the other hand, 609 00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.599 where are you on the list in terms of how much help you're you going 610 00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:37.400 to get to get to the NFL and all those right things? Right? 611 00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.960 So, I don't know, you know, uh, look the fact that 612 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.519 Arizona's even getting a look at that guy again, when you think back to 613 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.000 what this program was three years ago, I think that's a pretty good, 614 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.440 pretty good statement about We'll always have to give Jetfish credit for doing that, 615 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.360 you know, for put putting Arizona on that level before he bolted for the 616 00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.960 door. So so you you what are you worry? No, you weren't 617 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.519 Nikeys today no, what do you were just I don't even know what this 618 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.880 is. Don't tell me smart schedules, that's all you are, old man, 619 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.239 you were Nikes. I'm worrying Chuck Taylor's But the reason I go here 620 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.320 is because did you see that Nike's gonna lay off seven hundred and twenty people 621 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.760 from the headquarters. I'm sure you've been there right after they gave Caitlyn twenty 622 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.400 million dollars where you were going to? Sorry, the problem with you? 623 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.719 You and I think they like you don't even say that. You don't even 624 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.519 say but yeah, they're giving her twenty million dollars. Hey, sorry, 625 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.320 guys, I gotta go. Yeah, well, they're giving her twenty million 626 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.960 dollars because they laid those people out. Okay, we needed clear twenty twenty 627 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.239 million dollars off of our salary. So see, you wouldn't want to be 628 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.280 would you be pissed? Of course you would. Of course I would be. 629 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:50.559 Course, of course you would be. Well. And that's why you 630 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.840 know, that's why you know, even even at a place like Arizona, 631 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.440 you know, every time a coach gets hired and they talk about how much 632 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:59.320 money they coach to get, regardless of where that money is coming from. 633 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.960 People get passed. Yeah, right, sure, you know. And and 634 00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:09.400 again you know, there was a the the faculty organization whatever it is, 635 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.079 put out a put out a statement saying that the athletic department should lay off 636 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.239 twenty percent of its staff. Really, you know, and and I remember, 637 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.519 you know, look, you know my son who's a university employee no 638 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.239 longer, even if in athletics. And we said, I just don't understand 639 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:35.159 why one athletic, why one U of A employee would wish that another U 640 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.199 of a employee got laid off? Why why did they do that? Because 641 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.280 it doesn't affect them, but it doesn't affect you, you don't pay attention 642 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.920 to it. Yeah, but but you know it's seriously In fact, I 643 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:45.639 was thinking about this today because we have advertisers, right, we try to 644 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.440 get them and and some of them are affected by this donor stuff. Right, 645 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.480 but you know, the sorry I'm giving to the U of A. 646 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.559 I would like to help you, but but right, you know, it's 647 00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.679 a trickle down thing. It is. It is a trickle down thing. 648 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.000 And look, you know, well it just it just matches what we're seeing. 649 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.079 What happened in Nike is matches what we're seeing at the college level. 650 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:08.760 It's like, you're spending all this money, Well, where's the money coming 651 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.440 from? Well, apparently a Nike you know, you know they're gonna hand 652 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.880 somebody twenty million dollars. And you can talk about different budgets and stuff like 653 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.039 that, but you know, when you're talking about a company like Nike, 654 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.559 all the money comes from one place. You're talking about a U of A. 655 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.800 You know, you've got donor money, you got research money, you 656 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:30.280 got you know, all these different pots of pots of money and one doesn't 657 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.039 affect the other, but in the end they do affect each other. The 658 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:37.519 conversation, uh, we had with John Wilner about how much value, for 659 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.039 instance, athletics brings to the U of A. You know, are is 660 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.119 you OVA gating more students because the basketball program is really good? Which people 661 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.719 you know in the past, you know, there's been proof that that it 662 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.159 does or uh, you know, I mean, I don't know if you 663 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.039 heard Steven. You know, the conversation were had I was having with Johnya 664 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.920 and Steve was that, you know, why why is it considered such a 665 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:05.039 thing if a if a campus is helping its a program when you know, 666 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.199 Okay, there they are getting something in return to getting visibility or variety. 667 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.719 You talked are you talking about it? And we talked about this in the 668 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.199 front ports of the University of the Athletic Department, Right, no, no 669 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.719 question. And it gets you more enrollment. I mean sure the ninety seventeen 670 00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.360 probably got a lot of enrollment. I mean there were, it certainly got 671 00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.119 remember a fairy called I mean there were you know, there were uh you 672 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:30.400 know stories done about how much, how many, how much applications to the 673 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.960 u of A increased during that time, right, you know, so there's 674 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.639 no doubt that they get that there is a benefit there for that, right, 675 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.559 no question. In fact, yesterday at the Riven Cutting, the fact 676 00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.480 that Lauro's talked about the or I think I think it might have been Gene 677 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.320 talking about the money of they raised was all it was all gifts, right, 678 00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.559 gifted because given this current situation of of the of the deficit. Yeah, 679 00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.119 and then and for some reason, there are people out there, and 680 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.079 you know, I'm not not to have to beat up on the you know, 681 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.559 some of the non sports faculty people that you've either saying, well, 682 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.119 if you can give that to athletics. Why can't you give that to research 683 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.840 because we're out there finding cures for cancer. Sure, because they don't want 684 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.519 to. Yeah, that's what's important to them. That's what's important to that, 685 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:19.800 Yeah, without question. And that's the and that's the problem because when 686 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.840 you think about the world, the situation where everybody needs the homeless and all 687 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:28.360 this stuff, and and and people are spending millions upon menials on the campaign, 688 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.840 the campaign, just for the campaign. Yeah, and where that money 689 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:35.320 could go if it were not the campaign, and to give it to people 690 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:42.480 to elect somebody's gonna go out there and screw it up anyway. Statements Jay 691 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:49.360 send letters to Ja it's goodsols with an h No. But if it's my 692 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.559 money, don't tell me how to spend my money, right, I get 693 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:57.000 to spend it however I want exactly exactly anyway, all right, So we 694 00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.239 went down the rabbit hole there. No, But but it's all kind of 695 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.159 related to That's why the Nike team I brought up, right, because it's 696 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.039 it's affecting everybody. Yeah, even if it's a twenty million dollar contract where 697 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.480 a shoe did you see the pictures of the shoes. No, there's pictures. 698 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:14.400 They're actually pretty cool though. Yeah it's a you know, it's funny. 699 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:15.440 It's a woman. It's a woman. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 700 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:21.440 it's funny though because you don't you wonder how many when do they run out 701 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:25.199 of designs for stuff like that? Right? But it's another kind of a 702 00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.920 unique design to the shoe. Uh and uh, you know, and somebody's 703 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.440 gonna go out there and pay one hundred and fifty bucks for that shoe right 704 00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:37.840 now. And now you were really you know, the shoe deals and the 705 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.440 shoe designs have been really limited to male athletes. Now you got a you 706 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.559 know, a female athlete who's got her own shoe that you know, the 707 00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:53.000 fourteen year old girl who playing basketball at you know it's Worrow High School or 708 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:58.159 whatever is going to want the shoe. Just goes to show how impactful she 709 00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.880 is, right, she's going to save this here so far? Yeah, 710 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.119 well she certainly advancing the sport sure, and that you know good, you 711 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.800 know, good for her. And that's the question. Will it be sustained? 712 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:08.920 Yeah? Will it be system? I think it will be, you 713 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:15.199 know from Juju right, because there's more coming up Juju Jaw Watkins page page 714 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:17.599 Beckers that you know more coming up, you know, because you guys, 715 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.199 what's you already hear talking about it then? But because of what happened with 716 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:28.079 Kaitlyn Clark this year, now the spotlight moves over to you know, Paige 717 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.639 Beckers, who's going to be, you know, a twelfth year senior, 718 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.079 and she'll be you know, it'll be on her. Juju Watkins will get 719 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:39.000 some of that. But you know, you feel like because she's older, 720 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:44.519 has been around the longer she's at Yukon, right, that that you're gonna 721 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.880 see, uh, you know, Paige Beckers sort of become the next Kaitlin 722 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.639 Clark when it comes to visibility. And but but isn't sustainable again because you 723 00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.400 have different stars, you have different stars different to the things, right. 724 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.119 Yeah, well, Kaylyn Clark was so extraordinary as a player though she was 725 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:01.679 she was friend. Yeah, well the skill is well, even though I 726 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.039 don't want the NBA, and you do you want the NBA, who's the 727 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:09.920 best player in the league probably, and then debate between Luke or Giannis? 728 00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:15.800 Okay, so what does Steph Curry land on this list? I think he's 729 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:20.559 fading just a tiny bit six to eight range Okay, Okay, and to 730 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.000 me, to me, because I know I've seen him forever, I would 731 00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:28.599 still go with him. Yeah, he's still you feel like he's the most 732 00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.760 entertaining, right, right, that's right. And then I mean, is 733 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.880 good not great, but he's just a fat guy running up and down in 734 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.679 fact effect, but he's what He's won a championship. But when you talk 735 00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.119 about just pure entertainment and fun to watch, I'm still in the steff in 736 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:50.480 the in the Steffand and that's why I asked the question. And and you're 737 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:52.960 probably right. Eight that sounds good to me, sounds about right to me. 738 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.280 But to me, I'm gonna go watch stefph Yeah. But and when 739 00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.519 you go back to it, when you think about Jordan, right, you 740 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:04.880 think about Doctor J. The things that they did interest incredible. You know, 741 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.559 Jokic is a great player, you know, makes his team better. 742 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:12.719 You want a championship, may win a bunch more, and so you know 743 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.320 that's ultimately the goal. When you're talking about just entertainment value, you know 744 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.599 you got to go to guys like Kobe, guys like Shack, guys like 745 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:23.800 you know, Steph Curry, guys like you know, Doctor J. When 746 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:30.039 you go back Larry Bird even just got yeah that that they had there was 747 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.960 an entertainment value to what to what they were doing. And that's what she 748 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.280 provides. And that's what she does when she shoots from the logo, right 749 00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.559 uh and and you know it makes those shots. But you know, and 750 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:50.119 and the Juju Watkins I think is more in that area as a player than 751 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.079 say Page Becker's is just a really good player who can you know, you 752 00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:58.639 know, who can hit the three makes her team really better. But Taylor 753 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:01.960 and Clark was extraordinary of those skills things that she did, very entertaining, 754 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.800 very fun to watch. In fact, hanging out with a bunch of old 755 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:08.199 dudes on Tuesdays and they were already talking about it. I'm taking these old 756 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.920 dudes are watching the women they never wanted to. Well, you're gonna see 757 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.519 when when the when the w NBA season gets going, how much the you 758 00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:20.320 know, the viewership increases. Well. In fact, I think I thought 759 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.519 this morning they did a feature on her real quick on today's show. Orlando 760 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.519 was already moving. I think it's Ronando moving from the four thousands arena to 761 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:31.199 sixteen, eighteen thousand, whatever. It is just for this for those games 762 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:35.960 yeah, yeah, incredible because they know what the impacts do, of course, 763 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.199 and it will be and she'll be on her games, will be on 764 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:40.719 TV. I think all but two. I think yeah, I think that's 765 00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.360 what it hurt. Yeah, good for them, Good for good for them. 766 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.119 That's great, that's great. All right? Cool? Uh Steve, 767 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:50.679 nice week, We were here all week. Holy cow, when does that 768 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.480 happen? All right? Hey, Adam, thanks a bunch, nice job 769 00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.480 today. Do appreciate it. We'll be back on Monday, believe it or 770 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:00.159 not. All right, so thanks everybody, have a great weekend, and 771 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.000 we will see on Monday.