We'll say what you're doing in two hours. Hello Lasia, and welcome to
the third Last. Right I should say this that the penultimate, penultimate,
Yeah, but I would say the third last. Does that make sense?
I don't know, but this is sense. We're almost next week's of penultan.
But we got three episodes left of the X Men retrospect. We were
nearly at the finish line. We can see it. It's there. I
am the rock Sucker Travis now and I'm joined by I am the end Game
Kirkland Patzer, I'm the blasted Bloodhound Telmas, I'm the blue Boy Taylor Field.
There you go. So yes, Leasia, and we have reviewed each
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yes, we're talking about X Men season four episodes, uh, sixteen,
two twenty one, So I'm gonna start with episode sixteen. But of course
when we open up, you guys can just say what you generally thought about
the batch of episodes as well. But episode sixteen here weapon x Lies and
videotapes obviously a spin on the sex lines and videotapes let's see. Obviously,
go get them, go watch the movie. A photograph in Leash's a flood
of maddening and painful memories for Wolverine that threatened to drive him insane. Threatened,
I feel like it pretty much does. We'll talk about that to keep
his mind from being torn up. Part Wolverine Beasts traveled to the one location
that made all the answers to his hidden past, the ruins of top secret
weapon X Lab, where Wolverine's bones were lace with adamantium. There he encounters
other former test subjects, Sabretooth, Maverick, and silver Fox, were suffering
from the same similar mental breakdowns. Later, they find out that many of
their memories were implanted and their true memories are destroyed with the lab. So,
you know, Phil, what do you think about this episode? What
do you think about the batch episodes of the ending here of season four as
well? All see Don't Get two Deep the other ones, But were you
fan of these six episodes? It was a drudge to get through. These
first couple were a drudge. The the other ones were good, But this
this one, though, I was just was wondering, like did Creed get
left in the house the whole time? And it was interesting because we got
to see some Jebediah Creed. Jebediah Cream is in there, but like,
oh, yeah, he's still in the basement, clean up the shitter you're
talking about, Yeah, but yeah, But I mean, you gotta be
specific. There's a lot of Creeds out there. There's far too many,
is like at the top of the chain here. He's the one that would
he have are you talking about are you talking about Sato's dad? Yeah,
that's no, no, no, no, no was in this Yeah,
but that was just like a memory that wasn't actually Jebedi like Sara saw Gebediah
Creed is saber Tooth's father. Sabre Tooth got on with mystique. I don't
know why you thought jebediahmus gone on. Yeah, and she ages slowly,
but she got it Alo with their tooth and I created the human f o
h hey that created Okay, that crazy. Now I had to home just
okay, that makes sense. But no, I I felt like the episode
was a bit of a It was a bit of a track. It was
a bit of a sludge, I will say though, uh I seeing all
the characters kind of like gather it was interesting, especially because I didn't know
much about those two other characters. When we had that brief cut scene where
Wolverine was like running I guess with Sabertooth at the time before he was Sabertooth
and he was like, they're expendable in the door closes and there was there
that was just kind of like a just a moment in time and we didn't
really get to know more about that, but so this episode expands on that
with the characters, which I do appreciate, and it was neat to kind
of get to know more about the memories and whatnot. But yeah, I
feel like it's it's an easy one off episode. There's there's not a lot
really going on, aside from a feeling like me Beast was just there,
you know, Blue Boy, he was just was there for the ride,
and I appreciate it. He was a scientist. A lot of missions need
just a tech guy or a scientist, someone to drop quotes throughout the adventure.
True, I feel like he's been quoting up even harder in this group
of episodes than ever before. For the first four episodes. He doesn't actually
have an original thought, it's just only he speaks only in quotes. He
goes hard. On that Christmas episode. There's like quite a few where they're
like, oh, Beast, it's gonna be father time here. But all
right, mister Muss, what do you unless? Taylor, You're good?
Do you have anything add before we get to the specifics you got this,
Dylan, Yeah, thanks for your trust. My god, the Blue Boy
over here, I uh yeah, this is this is a mixed This is
a mixed episode for me. Uh for a couple of reasons. I just
feel like there's a couple of things in here that seemed like such a waste
of time. Like the first five minutes of this episode feel like massive retread,
and I was like, oh God, I don't I don't think I'm
gonna like this. But then it actually went somewhere interesting and we got a
little bit more depth mind into some of these characters. But then there's even
some stuff towards the end where I think I would have liked if a couple
of those things that feel a bit like patting were maybe cut out, and
I would have wanted maybe a bit more depth of like a silver Fox,
I feel like, interesting character, maybe maybe a good hook for a character,
even though it's like we've seen other past loves of Logan before. Yeah,
but yeah, I just I just wanted a bit more by the time
the episode was done, so I was left a little unfulfilled, and knowing
that there's not a ton of episodes left. I don't know, maybe we
go more into some of that stuff, but it just it just felt like,
why are we even going here? I'd rather maybe get more backst around
a character we've seen before, or you could go watch the the Ultimate Classic
Wolverine origins. Solar Fox is in there, you know, so you get
a lot more than there if you want. Dylan, Well, I mean
I'm talking about this. Can you know this this timeline? Yeah, because
this is this is my logan here, not no, I mean that I'll
take any any logan that I'm working. But yeah, I think that's I
think that's it for now. I I think overall is a bit of a
mixed episode for me. But I I'll just say with getting into much of
it, this is a fantastic end to the season here. Uh this uh,
this group of episodes going into the end of it here, So yeah,
very excited to talk about the rest of it when we get there,
mister bats Are. Yeah, this collection is it's definitely up there among my
favorites. So this will be I think a fun episode of breakdown with you
guys. It's just really I think delivered on the rounding out of this season,
especially you know, for the big villain that we have. It's been
popping up throughout this the show that we've been watching here, but this is
just so great to get this version compared to like X Men Apocalypse on the
live action screens just Man Apocalypse, great character, great card, Marvel's slap
Marvel snaps that's the underground version. But no, for this episode, I
thought it was a fun start, but maybe, like Dylan was mentioning,
like it kind of left me wanting a little bit more by the end of
it and knowing that it wasn't a two parter. Yeah, I was a
little bit bummed out by it, but I still think that it delivered in
many ways, just I don't know, fillin us in a little bit more
on the Weapon X program and just seeing some of those flashbacks, and I
think a lot like, yeah, maybe a lot of it. Maybe some
of it is very rush with like certain characters and like where they're uh maybe
just story ends up. I feel like there's just many other avenues that we
could have gone as opposed to I don't know, hinting these characters without going
fully into it. But who knows. Maybe X Men ninety seven we're gonna
getting some more flashbacks Weapon X. Who knows. But I don't think Silver
Fox is a big priority on the remail of this show. No, definitely
not. You never know, like like I'm not trying to be that guy.
I know someone's gonna make a red eye thumbnail for me, but like
she's a Native America character, so maybe she might be a character that they
want. The episodes we got in this new season, though that's a we
don't have that hard fact. It's twelve we're not getting Silver Fox. How
many Silver Fox episodes amongst those twelve. I think that for the poll batch,
I'm happy with it. I like there's no episode here I fail.
So that's the best way to say. I think there's a varying degrees of
high thumbs and low thumbs or like middle, like no two thumbs are one
thing, Like, I don't think there's any middle low thumbs. I think
there's all guy thinks one the more stronger last six six episodes of the season,
the next episod we're gonna talk about, probably have a bit more of
a like, oh, like it's a good time of year be watching this
one, so that helps. This primarily feels like to me because we were
talking about I feel like since the ending of season three and maybe a little
bit a couple of weeks when we had like Nightcrawler and Wolverine back together,
but it felt like Wolverine was really on the back burner this season. Where
it's okay, we've done a lot with Wolverine in season one to three that
showcase other characters that are stories, but some points it's like it felt weird
for he was almost always the main character or always has the biggest role,
and then he was just back like throwing a couple of quips. So I
really just feel like this was, Hey, we haven't had like a Logan
story in a while, you know, And luckily, I feel like these
last six episodes feel like he's a main character again. But I think that's
the only reason they do this. I agree it den where I feel like
the first i'll even say ten minutes feels like a retread of stuff we've gone,
Like there's lots of flashbacks, but like we've gotten this where something's going
on with Logan's mind and he I just feel like the conversation that Wolvering's savor
too have like they're pretty much the same thing. He walks into a room
like you I knew I could smell you from a mile away. I'm gonna
get you for this time for good, Like it's always the same fucking threats
and it's the same scenario where they fight for a vent and Logan gets the
better of them, like take that scum like and then but he doesn't kill
him because he's like like, there's all it's if we've done this rodeo so
many times. That's where I do hope there's no other than X twenty three
if they want to go down that route, which I think would be cool.
I don't need any more weapon X stuff in U X Men ninety seven,
like I think from this show, the Hugh Jackman stuff, like even
Deadpool to a sense like we've been there so much. Like we it's like
the Dark Phoenix. It's like we're good on this for a bit. So
unless it's like twenty three, that'd be fun to get her in there,
but I think take a break for that. So yeah, this was like
a for me. This was probably the the weakest episode. I guess I
might prefer it to the next one, but like the next one kind of
has some cheese on it that I enjoy, you know. So this was
like a service ball, like Okay, Logan having some adventure, but it's
like if you were to take this out of the season, I don't think
there's anything good enough where I'm like, oh, I don't really want to
It was this episode. You know, they could have they could have scrapped
it, but it doesn't offend me. So m hm, where I am
I praise? I praise. I like that he uh, there's a picture
frame right that beast looks at it, this was the frame behind and sees
it behind the frame. It's like longitude latitude coordinates. Yeah, peculiar,
which yeah, it doesn't feel like a very logan thing to do. I
don't. I don't seem as much of a coordinates kind of guy coordinates.
He wasn't the army though, right, So I think he has some of
those traits like cap where it's it's kind of red in him a bit.
He has like that that mentality I did like from the photo album, though
she doesn't say a single thing about it. So, like we talked about,
he loses his mind. He gets out of there and everyone's He first
attacks Scott, as always, Scott's taking the brunt of it, but they
getting a little scrubble. He runs away and then they're trying to find some
clues to where Logan is, Like Taylor mentions, they find this, is
this like a photo album or a picture frame, but there's multiple pictures there
and Jean's looking through it. The first photo is a gen and Cyclaus,
but it's the one that he ripped side cloths out of there. She makes
no mention of She's like, oh, yeah, just just regulate them.
I just found that so funny, Like, oh, that must be so
embarrassing. When he gets back and he's like she saw the Like it's just
like like what a word Like it'd be different if it was like the group
together or her and Logan together. But the fact that it's turn in Scott
and Scott's when it's like he's still such a man child, like a still
time, and that's it's just yeah, it's probably like an X mansion.
She'll walk around see photos of her in Scott. She's like Wolverine's like rip
them out. So I got a good giggle out of Cyclaus being removed under
Logan's bed frame photos. So I also I love that the setup for this
and they're trying to figure out where he went, and they describe it as
he went to somewhere in southern Canada. Have you, guys asked, ever
heard anyone ever described anywhere in Canada southern Canada. I can't find out what
it is. It just doesn't happen Canada, like pop what is what is
considered southern Canada? Apparently the South, which Blikedalne said, no one.
I've never if someone introduced himself as they're from Prince Edward Island, I've never
said, oh, you're from the South exactly. But no, it says
the South reverse of South, southern regions and provinces that includes Prince Edward Island,
Nova Scotia, and New Brunswick. That's the east, not according to
whatever this website. That's what I'm saying. That's why Canada, like this
episode was clearly written by an American and not Yeah. Absolutely. If you
hold a up like we're going to go south to Nova Scotia, take you
to the states. Apparently Ontario as well. Southern Ontario is the home to
both capitals, Capital City, Auto and Toronto. So there you go.
Those are some more southern states. So so half the country you're saying is
southern Canada. Yeah, madd he's almost close. I can say, oh,
you're from so you're down there. How's it going in the south down
there? Yeah? This is from the Canadian government website. The Prince Edward
on Nova Scotia thing, that's from the Canadian government website. I mean,
yeah, somewhere has to be the southmost point. But yeah, just that's
just not how were something I think about, you know, we do now
though, anytime I hear someone's from like Nova Scotia from the south, my
southern brothers. Yeah, you can't trust the Southeast, you know, there's
there's no way they got a whole different mindset down there in the south.
So also so Silver this is the first time we've seen Silver Fox, right,
but I swear we've seen Maverick before, like he twice. What was
the what were the context that we saw him before? I don't eve remember
we ever had a line. I feel like he might have just been like
a lackey in the background or something. So there's one time he was like
in a lackey or he was part of a flashback, And then there was
another time where I think it was more when he was changing into a bunch
of characters memory changed in a deadpool, that's also change into him. So
I don't think we've ever seen Maverick in like that big of a role.
And then I think Silver Fox is the same thing where we've seen her in
like a flashback, but just like, oh there's a little hint there,
you know. And I think it's more of the one of her in this
costume, because like they show a lot of her when she's like the normal
girl that's in level logan, but then when she's a mutant, she's like,
here's huge, she's a green outfit and stuff. So I like,
I love both of their looks. I think they Yeah, I mean,
because Maverick's just so over the top. There's just fucking like tubes and wires
everywhere. Even though he's not a very he is a techi. I don't
even understand the anatomy of that man, but it was I like his look.
And then yeah, Silver Fox is just another cool, sleek looking character.
Go in the washroom must suck for Maverick. I just feel like there's
a lot to take on and off there, you know. Yeah, he's
probably he's probably got a tube for it, that's true. Yeah, funnels
it into his powers. Yeah, dumps in the south just see ahead.
I really liked Logan's like Weapon X costume that he had basically just like revers
the colors of his regular X Men suit as opposed to mostly yellow and then
some black. It was all black with the yellow trim. Just looked really
sick, and he had these like goggles on. I don't know, I
feel like I've never really thought of Logan needing like eye protection, but you
know, he has it for those missions and just him with like the blasters.
It's just such a cool look. So yeah, I really like seeing
all of the Weapon X teams different outfits on those missions. And it was
pretty quick, but still it was funny. When you have Sabertooth, I
think he's like helping Logan or something like run. That's when he's looking for
Fox and then you know their expendable whatnot. But the first time I was
watching this, I thought he was saying Pops as opposed to Fox, like
Fox fuck like Pops, we gotta go, and I thought he was referring
to Sabertooth. I'm like, holy fuck. I never knew Tooth was supposed
to be, Like yeah, what a twist of fates. But so that
was a funny little mix up there. Man, speaking of Sabertooth, Like,
I feel like we had a shot of this where he like went from
having normal skin to his suit, like he did it as a transformation,
which I feel like, you know, we've had this conversation before on here
is like is that his skin? Is that a suit? What's going on
with him? But it's like can he just transform back and forth? Now?
I'm just it's we're just getting more puzzle pieces to this, and it's
I can never really figure out what's going on. I still think I still
think it's a suit, just because we everyons well see him in clothes still
and ever, what was the morph thing then? Was that like a Tony
Stark micro whatever? That nano tech? Nano tech? Is that a nanotech
situation? Maybe it's like a hot like a snay skin, like he can
grow and just shed it, you know, which the shedding in his pocket
and yeah, reapply it. His son has to wash it like every couple
of weeks, you know, just like he's there scrummed outside like old day
Maverick's there with his tubes like sucking up. He just goes Sarrahu's house and
just his skin's hanging on a clothes, but in the yard like the Creeds
suck man, I don't want to go here for Thanksgiving And the delivery Gude
tosses the package from the car window. He's like, I'm not walking the
Southern Canadians and their's skin suits. Yeah, I really don't know. I
really don't have an answer for what it is, but yeah, it's not
great. I also felt like his voice was different in this episode. It
definitely seemed to voice actor weird performance. What was going on there? I
thought it was made just like a weird performance. I didn't think it was
that different. Sounded really really distinct to me, but sounded like a whole
different person, especially Yeah, when he was just going crazy there. Mm
hmmm. He's such an iconic voice that it just kind of sends out.
Did you guys have any like strong feelings on the whole memories? Reveal that
these memories aren't real. There's being planted and they're locked room gonna kill like
it was? It was surprising, I'd say, but I feel like it
was worth it for just the hilarious Like Logan trying to confess his feeling he
can never win when it comes to love, but he's like confessing that he
had the like that very serious. It was something yeah, yeah, connection
with silver Fox, that's a life aware whatever the hell she says, it's
just like my god, no, why no holding back the blows either,
just like fucking wake up, you los her, I'm fucketting with you.
So that's just bad. Yeahause we had that, and then we had the
storm one where he has no memory, like doesn't remember it, but it's
like they just got wiped. So again you had this lady that's like and
death Strike he's had. Yeah, he's had quite a good Yeah, but
at least with death Strike when he did that felt like death Wright still felt
like there was something to Kirklans. Silver Fox just felt like, no,
you fucking lose her like that. She felt so much colder than made sense
to me. And that's where I would have loved just if one or two
minutes of this, like some of the origin stuff, take that out,
or why is there two battles against this tallos robot in this episode that makes
no sense? Cut that out. I would have loved like another minute or
two of some communication between them, just like diving into it more like they
haven't seen each other in so long or just more explanation. I think that
would have done the episode a big point for me. She's pissed because he
left her for dead, right, technically it wasn't his fault to saving.
I mean, they all kind of left each other for dead, right,
they all had a champion to run and they took it. And I don't
know, for years, like she's known about it his existence, where he
hasn't and she hasn't connected with him, so its have made that move.
Yeah. Over here, she's hanging out with fucking Maverick because of all his
tubes and stuff. So I don't know, I just I feel like there's
a room there for a little bit more, yeah, between the two of
them, and clear clear there a little bit. As much as I love
Beasts, you probably just go took him out and add more between those two.
You know. I got the blue boy line there, I know,
but Beast doesn't need to be there. You also wouldn't have got this great
quote, A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies,
which I thought was just a clod. I mean, of course it
wasn't an original Beast line. He's told someone else, but I liked it.
It is good, but we'll get to it later on. Beast was
saying some ship I was not agreeing with, and these few episodes, I'm
sure KIRKL and T were all over it. There's one line in particular,
but I was like, no, I I'm not digging this knowledge he's put
line are you talking about? I'm talking about his line about balance. Later
on, when we get to it's like, this is bullshit. I don't
agree with them at all, but we'll get there. I well, Yes.
The other one thing I really liked though about this Silver Fox love storyline
was I loved that just the last frame of the episode when they're leaving and
you can like see the this heart written on the tree with their with their
names in it. To me, that was like a really nice little beat
of symbolism there to show like there was something real here. You know that
this is this thing that was written outside of the simulation. I think it's
kind of hard to tell where the simulation. I guess the simulation is just
inside the inside the facility, So I don't know how they got out there
write that note, but I don't worry about that. But also, yeah,
the note written on the tree, like this organic thing that will kind
of stand for hundreds of years. I thought it was very poetic and kind
of beautiful. So I don't know. It seems like this is probably not
going anywhere for this last season, I would imagine, and I don't think
it'll come back. That'd be a weird thing to dig back to this specific
episode, I think, But I think it at least ended in a good
place with this little kind of ambiguous note at the end. Did you go
outside of MUDs, find a tree and just crack open a night every tree
we see, we yeah, they're actually finding you now because they've done it
so much like this. Come on now, Logan's gonna find the tree and
X Men ninety seven be like, guys, come look like the love is
and be like shut up Logan, like we don't care such a little Jeane
my own love story. Those fucking Southern Canadian peoples the photos to the rest
of the scott you can't say that about them. You can't say Southern Canadians,
Okay, uh my. One of my favorite lines is like when Beast
falls Wolverine the first time he sees him, He's like, you shouldn't have
followed me. I'm going nuts, Like again, that's where it's like,
Okay, we're still at the kids show. And that's actually was so weird.
I just like the logic of Wolverine being in control and not made no
sense. He would like pop out for a minute and then he'd fall back
into this dream state. And I don't know if it's because silver foxes all
the on the end of the facility just hitting buttons and making him go crazy
or something, because how else would she have communicate with him. I feel
like she must have been doing something like that, so I don't know,
but yeah, yeah, that whole section was so weird. And the lines
I like when they did get here said I got my bones here, which
is like a lie because he always had his bones. He didn't get his
bones here, he just got metal. But I get what Logan's trying to
say. And then one of my favorite persons as well too is at the
end, all this has gone down and transparent, and I think after it
ends, this is like I can't remember if it's near the end and of
it. Whenever Beast dropped that quote about the lye and stuff like that,
Wolvern just talked about how you know he's lost all stuff happens, doesn't know
who he is, and my mind's really messed up. And he just looks
like him and literally says, I got no solution for you, Like he
gives no and she's like, but Xavier has been helping you out. But
just like and I get that's trump it. I just love that Logan just
laid it on him and he's literally had nothing. He's like, yeah,
I don't know what to do. Man, like you're just like he had
nothing. No, like he's a wisdom machine, and no moment could he
say anything clever to like give Logan some hope. He pretty much just said,
nah, your head's fucked. Like they're like, you gotta live with
this. It's like, I guess so be's uh. I was looking for
a quote there. They ran out the writers in that one. They ran
out that's you neither nothing. I'm gonna give this seventy five percent of a
thumb up. Actually I'll just give it a thumb up, but like enthu
unenthusiastically, just like one just yeah, just like a tiny little guy.
Yeah, I give it a thumb not like the strongest, but little seventy
five. It's a broken thumb dislocated middle mid tier surprise. Okay, that's
like the lowest ranking rating you've ever did it in an episode in the series.
Have have yourself a more Lock little x miss. What a fucking title
right there, as they don't bury the lead at all. As all the
X Men prepare for a festive Christmas, foster child Jubilee is thrilled. Why
are they gonna say like they're all foster child? What the fuck? Wikipedia?
But all right, she's Storm and grouchy humbug. Wolverine go on a
last minute shopping spree in Manhattan, only to be caught in a life or
death crisis involving Leech. Uh, the littlest more Lock Leech needs a blood
transfusion, it says Leech, the involving Leech, The littlest more Lock Leech
needs a blood transfusion. So Wolverine's blood is given, and then Leech gets
better a dish Storm gets Backer Callisto her title as a Morlock's official leader.
The end who the editor was on this Wikipedia article is some some week right
over here. The former child or the foster child little Leech. He gives
in the blood, Leech gets better. Uh yeah, this for me is
an episode. If it wasn't Christmas themed, it might have got a mental
thumb to thumb down. So maybe spoil on my ranking, But like I
think the Christmas stuff when we're recording this, we're getting into Christmas season.
But also just I like seeing that X Men like what we talk, but
when they're interacting the real world doing things, I like them going to them
all. There's some fun quips there, there's some good one line or some
little cute moments, So I think the cheesiness of it makes us enjoyable for
me. But it's definitely not one of the all timers. You could probably
argue might be in the bottom five of this season. But I still enjoyed
it for what it was, So I had a good time with it.
You know, yeah, I'll pick you back up on you with that that
little sentiment you're going there. I feel like this one was incredibly average,
but it just had some sort of magic that was boosted up for me.
I think it had a big part of that was to do with the more
not only the more locks, because it was fun to have them back and
just faces that I've been I knew that we were getting more of them this
season, just because I looked ahead when we were doing the previous episodes.
But yeah, I make pair it up with the Christmas spirit and what we're
doing just right now. You know, we're getting the Christmas tree up,
so it's touched upon those those feelings and uh yeah, but overall amongst these
set definitely in the bottom. Yeah, this is pretty weak for me.
I like, I like the Gambit Jean stuff. I like when they're at
the mall, but I don't care at all but any of the more Lock
stuff. And I've been a Morlock fan. I don't know fans the right
word, but I've been on the positive side of the Warlock stuff, yeah,
supporter across this series. I just I wish this is a situation where
they could be okay with not following the formula of needing there to be some
life or desk situation. And it's said, we just got a fun Christmas
episode where Wolverine's being a curmudgeon at the mall and Jean and Gambit are fighting
over this meal. Like I I just wanted that stuff, and the Morlock
stuff really took it down, and then it like throws all these like weird
questions of like storm and like a stim bad person. It's like, I
don't want to have those feelings after a Christmas episode, So yeah, this
is a this is a pretty week episode for me, and I think I
was also just yeah, I was hyped them. It's like the end of
November here. I was like, man, oh, hell yeah, I
didn't think there'd be a Christmas episode, so I was maybe higher on the
excitement level than it gave me. I don't think you're wrong. I would
definitely trade I know two so it's a bit just in kids who don't work.
On that point, I would have just tooken a throwaway, fun just
good time episode, which is funny, Like I feel like they don't do
those too much. I feel like that's something I could be wrong, but
I feel like the Spiderman animated series almost did it like a little bit more.
Every once in a while you get an episode that was pretty low key,
but and Batman does that a lot. There's like an episode where there's
just Batman's in the basement with these kids, and so what these kids like
they found an unconscious Batman. They don't know what to do with his body
because it's like what do you do with Batman? That's almost dead right,
So I agree with you. I would have taken just Christmas good Time episode,
But uh, say, where are you? I send you a message
in this chat here, Travis, I want you to say something for me.
Okay, this is one line that really cracked me out from from GAMBITO,
what does hear you cooking? That's not his accent? Okay to my
stop reset, you should have said use the accent first. I read it,
and then the next thing is trying to say this and Gammon's accent.
Please, what does he cooking? I love gam but I'm so good now,
Like I feel like whenever anyone drops that image of Thanos, like what
is he cooking? I just I wish this show was bigger and that could
become the meme. Instead it's just Gambit saying that that version instead, it's
so good cooking. Yeah, the two of them kind of go into town.
It was it was its own isolated thing that was at the start of
the episode and then at the end of the episode, and I'm assuming it
was just hot boiling water was just poured all over Gambit's head, but he
took it like a champ. It was a brutal battle for this. They
were heated. It's not a friendly family, like bickering at Christmas time,
like like literally the amount they are arguing. I was getting these type of
vibes like marriage Story Netflix, like they weren't next Yeason. Yeah, they
weren't gonna make it out of this, like they And that's why I guess
I did think. I'm like, how much have Gene and the Gambit really
interacted? And I do feel like they wouldn't. These two versions would not
get along with each other much, you know. Ye yeah, And I
feel like Gene hasn't really been around much this season Gambit, like it's been
a weird season. There's been a ton of there's been a few X men
that are just absent for a lot of it too. So Gene makes sense
because last year we got like the Phoenix and dark things. I feel like
they're like, hey, Geene, you can take it. You're gonna get
married an episode. You know, calm down, go go make co argue
with Gambit. But did you enjoy the episode though? I think I enjoyed
it enough to like trudge through it, but I'm not eager to rewatch it.
I'm not a fan of the Sewer Rats, and the Sewer Rats ran
this episode, but there was some stuff that thought was very like bullshitty,
I guess you could say with them. I thought everything in the mall was
really funny. Wolverine just couldn't handle it, and that woman just comes up
and it's like here, you want to try your new musk of the while
and just spreads it in his face and he's just rain and like my mom's
heavily allergic to a lot of those like things, and profuse like not that
logan, but what if he was. He can't do that, can just
walk somebody like other than regeneration. But I wrote some notes here on it.
So the Morlocks they were left to grow. They were left what the
fuck did I right? Who is listening to Taylor? Right? So they
were they were left in leaderless right in the series? No, well yes,
and no they did have a leader. It just sounds like Storm didn't
come and check them all. She didn't come and check them on at all,
and so like Storm let them get bitter. They didn't. Maybe they
talked about it, but I thought Storm would be like, hey, you
guys don't have to live in poverty and conditions. You can come at the
X mansion wait for me till I come back. Last line ten years ago.
Yeah, next time, baby. I'm glad you put in their notes
because I was thinking that too, because at the end when like we're talk
about everything that at the end, she goes, I have an announcement,
and she makes the announcement. That's just giving the power back to Clins.
I thought she was gonna extend the all branch and tell him to come back,
and especially like they've been doing a lot of shit lately, I don't
think like a like all since more mouths to feed and like, but it's
a pretty big manch and like welcome some more people in. I'm sure Xavier,
he's always welcome. You're always gonna place here, like and it's always
colossomic. No, I must find my family, like they're always like Bobby,
like, no, I gotta go, Like they never take them out
from his offer if Storm brought them and he's like, oh yes, what
I'm when he pulls the storm and size absolutely fucking not. You know,
they just think they're not coming in the examer mansion, but like you'll give
them Wolverine's Bloody gives them, gives them that fragrance, though not from the
ball they use that. But I that's where I was like, why,
one, why did they ever? This definitely is a storyline they forgot that
they made Storm the leader. So one why reviewing these episodes, Yeah,
I was like, oh, right, that did happen? And two?
Yeah, why did she never give them an olive branch to the X mansion?
You know? And it's like, with the way this show is structured,
because it's kind of an ensemble situation, you have, as we mentioned,
multiple episodes where even earlier the season, Storm was just gone for like
at least three or four episodes in a row. So it's I feel like
it'd be very easy to just have it written in there somewhere that every once
in a while she goes back and spends some time there and she has like
a so and somewhere right, so she's busy. I guess you got little
places to go, but Southern Africa. Yeah, I feel like that's one
of those things you can kind of just tuck in there it and it you
get away with it. Because of how this show is structured, Even just
a line where a Storm, oh I was with the Morelocks. I'm working
on some projects or whatnot, you know, nothing of that. She just
didn't want to talk about them. D I like Storm comes up because Leech
is sick, and that's why they go down there to save Leech because Storm
had like figured that out. But she was checking in on them time of
all places. Maybe she was bringing them a gift, you know, no,
because they see some Morelock on the street. Hey, what are you
stealing for? You don't know? Leach is sick and like, oh no,
And like even then, it's like Jubilee is the one that like really
gets them down there too. I don't feel like Storms that, but they
used Jubilee as like like she's crying, she's sad about Lee, she's kindling
the other mutants, and I feel like this is so unjustified because she's met
them on like once. I feel she was caring personally. I think because
they're younger, she was a bare lead than fucking Storm ever was to the
more Locks. Yeah, because Jubilee, because I feel like it's the It's
that's why the orphan line is in there from the Wikipedia thing, right,
because I feel like she feels some connection to either that kid, or just
the people down here in general who are kind of the discarded people of society.
They're kind of left by their parents in a lot of cases, just
like she was, let me let me ask you guys this. Do you
think it's First of all, I think it's very kind that Jubilee is like,
hey, all this stuff, it's all mostly food, We'll share it.
Now. The thing here that was a big red flag for me was
Storm ass Jubilee, are you sure you want to share the food? Storm
gets so mean? Are you sure you want to share all this food you
believe with them? You know what? Yeah? Don you said an episode
that you don't want to think about Storm being a good or bad person.
Now, Like the more we talk about this, like yeah, yeah,
sure, yeah, Storms an asshole. Like I'm definitely on Scott to lead
then hour after this episode, like she's faking on. I am feeding people.
I forgot about that, but like, what the fuck is wrong with
her? Yeah? But that's why I thought Julie looked the best at this
episode because storming at those lions and Wolverine's grumpy, so like Jubilee was,
like I felt like making an actual effort to take care of these people and
didn't have to. Character Wise, I feel like Jubilee has been crushing it
last season or so like she's she's great, she's really climbing up my my
ranking. Jess had great, good, great stack roaths my my One good
point for Storm though, is that I think we've seen this out before,
but like that kind of tiger print, orange turquoise dress, very actressly whatever
it was at the start of the season's episode just looks so fucking cool and
like, I think we've seen it once before, but sometimes she just has
such style that it undoes all the evil that she did in this episode.
Let's see here if there's anything else like God for this. My last thing
was I probably shouldn't laugh at this. I laughed, but I also felt
very bad. You believe was like, hey, kid, do you believe
in miracles? What's miracles? Just doesn't even I shouldn't have laughed as hard
as I did, but I was like the kid actor's voice. It was
like the face because that fucking character's eyes are like huge and whatnot. That
I shouldn't laughed, but I did. I was gonna say because other people,
guess have said it. I don't call wolverine. But like when Jean
called Gambit a swamp rat, I didn't feel comfortable about it. I felt
like it's the closest Jean's ever been to be like being racist, and I
know it's not racist, but like they just felt like the way that voice
actors said like, yeah, my kitchen, you swamp rat, I was
like, oh my god, is so mean. Yeah, like you don't
need to be throwing this around, Like I think they should make sure that
if dark Phoenix isn't in her body anymore, because just imagine that the on
the kitchen and she's like she's cooking, she's cooking the turkey with her dark
Phoenix power. She lies this whole time. But yeah, I didn't feel
I didn't feel good about that. So it's a question. The holidays bring
out the worst in people, you know, some sometimes true can That's all
my notes on Yeah, No Humble. Ending there with Xavier, Jubilee calls
him up. He's like, sorry, we can't be back with you for
Christmas. Eve. It's like, oh no, you're you're making me proud,
Jubilee. He's alone, but like, yeah, so we're my favorite
Christmas So what was he not in the mansion. Oh, he's in the
mansion. He was alone in that one big room with the fireplace, like
there's other people dancers cooking, right, he's not alone alone Cyclopes there.
We just love Saviors specifically just staying up in his room because he can't fucking
stand the fight. Like we've all been there, right when family members are
fighting and you're like, I'm fucking out of here and you go like I've
been some many times. I'm gonna upstairs and play my video games. That's
what Magic Xavier is doing. Like he's out there just phone sexting at the
laund right now. Well, Geane and Gammage is bicker about like this's just
mock ravy, like like that's the thing. Where Why was he just in
this room all alone? And like those three were there. We're not missing
anybody, right because Storm they didn't. We didn't see Rogue in this episode.
She was like, on the fuck she was hanging out with Nightcrawler probably
for this Thanksgiving her brother, right, so but yeah, it just kind
it weird that she made that beast is he's probably with the Blind Lady right,
Oh yeah, remember his love interest thereon Yeah, Thanksgiving Christmas. But
I just thought all that you called. I'm like, sorry, you're gonna
be alone. It's like he's not alone, there's four other people in the
household with him. But I guess so sore he goes give it the one
thumb Christmas cheer. It's a thumbs down for me. I'm gonna be it's
getting a lump of coal in the form of a one thumb down. I'll
count of that with it. Another seventy five percent thumb on that Just that
crooked. I'm gonna go one thumb up because I like the Christmas theme.
Yeah, don't hitting one. I hit it with the Amma frost, Mamma
frost, snow winter. Yeah, she should have been there, you know,
should Okay, this could be like a seventy five percent thumb right here.
The first part of our four part or the whole entire thing is called
Beyond Good and Evil Number one. It's called the End of Time in three
thousand, nine ninety nine. Wait, sorry, is it what I swear?
On Disney Plus there was no like subtitles for the episodes. There's just
one Beyond Good and Evil, Part one of four. Okay, well,
no, there's a plused to hear what these subtitles are supposed to beak.
So this one's the end of time in three thy nine and ninety nine Cable
Tax Apocalypse. But Apocalypse steals this time device and uses it to add a
sorry use it to arrive at the axis of time, which causes Bishop to
be thrown off course trapped out of the access of time. Present day,
Gene and Scott finally have gotten married. Just as they are driving off after
the ceremony, the Nasty Boys can have Genie. That just sounds like the
start of a porn beard right there, leaving Scott behind. Sharred, Bishop's
sister travels to the present day in search of Bishop and arrives in time to
see mister Sinsor taking a savior. Uh, it couldn't be a season without
getting an apocalypse in a time travel episode. You know what it's bound to
happen. So who wants to take this first? For part one? I'll
take it away here, and I mean just I'm gonna talk about the four
party here just as as brief thing here, which is that this is a
fucking amazing four partner. I absolutely loved it. To me, this is
like this should have been this series finale. I don't know what I've seen
the next season. Yeah, no, no, it should have been.
This is such a freaking good season finale and a serious finale bringing back You're
kind of best of for me, like the best appearance for a lot of
these villains. Like we've talked about Apocalypse. How the last like two or
three times we've seen him was like, yeah, you kind of peaked early,
man, Like you were good in season one and two, but these
last three appearances haven't been that great. But he was so menacing, a
lot more interesting this time around. You get introduced to a bunch of characters.
It's kind of like a best of you see Cable and Bishop and the
Great Shard and all these other characters all over again. So I absolutely loved
it. If you made like a couple, you know, bundle this all
into one, make it a movie, make a couple changes, throw us
on the big screen. That that's a billion dollar movie right there, Like
this is a this is a great script, I'll say it. I absolutely
loved it. So and you know, this has probably been the weakest season
for me overall, and so I feel like it really needed this and to
have just a really really strong four parter. I'm so happy with it.
I was just so excited last night that I was I should have gone to
bed, but I'm like, I got two more parts to go, and
I got to see what happens right now. I'm not waiting until tomorrow for
this. So I loved it so much, and I think the first episode
is a great setup for the four parter. Might might be the strongest episode
of the batch, honestly, just it does a really good job setting the
whole thing up and getting all the players involved and whatnot. So just loved
it. Nice. Yeah, I I completely agree with just the collection of
episodes here. I feel like this is my favorite, uh whatever you would
call it, just this sequence of episodes, the collection of we've had four
partners, We've had three partters? Have we had five? Partner? With
the Phoenix saga, I felt like I thought there was a five there.
There was one five parter, I think, but I can't remember which one
it was. But yeah, I think this is my favorite amongst the bunch,
purely for the reason of like bringing back all of our villains and it
just felt like a big, like endgame scenario. I feel like Apocalypse does
feel scarier than ever, and not just because he's like less menacing in previous
appearances, but he just seems smarter and more like methodical with his actions.
So that was really cool to see the places we go, the faces we
see, just all all these different things coming together. I just, yeah,
I really really love these sequence of episodes. Personally, I feel like
the first part might be the weakest amongst the bunch, but like it's not
bad. It's so it's so top tier, but I think if I'm splitting
hair as I would put it at the bottom. But it is tough because
I think like the first act of this episode is just some of the best
X Men stuff that we've seen, at least for me personally. So yeah,
I really liked just everything about it. I feel like I'm totally with
Dylan. I'm I'm signing that petition to get a big screen appearance for this
this storyline here, and I'm a little bit nervous, you know, coming
off this super super high season finale heading into the final season here pretty soon.
Yeah, getting nervous. Yeah that's a little unnerving there, But yeah,
this was great to see so just and so Phoenix Saga was a five
parter and then Dark Phoenix was a four part er, So there you go,
okay, which is crazy. Yeah, yeah, No, I don't
mean i'd take the sales everything, but I just I always bring up season
five. They lost a lot of funding, the budgets a lot lower,
and the UN's seen the thumbnails that un the animation looks a little rougher like
this. It even look as soon as these like episodes ended, I'm like,
I don't even want to know. I don't want to know. Yeah,
there's still some fun stuff, and there is like a series Finaley,
which is good. It doesn't just end like Spiderman Animate series where Spierman's still
just looking for MJ and the multiverse and still isn't founder. But it's definitely
it's a good thing we're gonna ninety seven because it ends in a way of
like, hey, wrap this up. We only got so much money.
It's like, okay, let's do our best. And as we've seen,
it's only ten episodes. It's a small season. So Taylor, are you
in a unison with the uh the ex brothers here? I really really enjoyed
this arc. I thought it was very cool. It was refreshing and just
it wasn't uh. I didn't feel like it was super repetitive in terms of
just dealing with Apocalypse and just him trying to like, oh, I'm here,
I'm gonna do this and yahd YadA YadA. It felt like, Okay,
he's here to do something, but this is so different from what he's
tried before. And it was really cool how involved these arcs got with reoccurring
characters that I really really like to see. So I think that they did
some justice with this, and this is something that would have been really cool
to get on like a big screen to like, uh, part part one,
Part two, kind of a deal or something like that, or just
Apocalypse. Yeah, as long as the m c MC survive and luckily I
think the X Men they can revitalized. I think Apocalypse will be one of
their big like fanos level people. I think they will build up to him,
like I know, Apocalypse did happen, but I think give him another
chance. I guess I guess that's coming back. Maybe yeah, he played
Moonnight and Apocalypse, but I guess I actually asked asked me after We're in
Cairo. That's what that video was for. It was actually pro Apocalypse.
It's getting makeup. Yeah, no, I have nothing more to add,
Like it is like like to Kirkland's name there. It feels very much like
Endgame in a good way, where you're revisiting time lines, we're visiting characters,
we're visiting people everything you'd kind of want. I think Apocalypse has one
of his best moments here. I know we'll break down the episode, but
I just love when it's kind of like what we're talking about with the Wolverine
and Sabertooth moment where it's like, oh, they're doing this again, and
Cable and Apollclipse are doing this again. But Apocalypse like kind of breaks the
fourth wall. It's like, oh, like we're doing this again, and
I'm just gonna lose, Like there has to be something more. And I
love that moment where he just sits back. He's like, do I just
always lose? Am? I always get like? Is there some reason why?
No matter what I do? Like, this guy has been a live
since like he's been alive for almost four thousand years, you know, and
he keeps losing. He can't win, and I love this moment he finally
just sits back and goes Okay, I'm gonna it's like his cannon event,
Like he can never fully win, so he has to like change the deck,
right, and that's where he gets Cable's device, and Cable's not happy
about that. But no, I think they do everything you'd want. Yeah,
I agree with deal and that. I wish this was the series,
maw. I think you get a lot of great callbacks, like the winning
happens again and Sinister and even Magneto ends in a good place. So I
think, uh, you know, it would have been a very justified ending
and maybe keep that in your mind where maybe the next episodes are just like
a a nice bridge to ninety seven, you know. So I would have
loved to have seen Omega Red also up there with like Sinister and either character.
I forget he wasn't wasn't in the Wolverine episode when we got a flashback
of him we saw him last Yeah, yeah, I don't know why.
Yeah he should have been that Weapon X episode too, like somewhere because he's
just cool. But I feel like Omega Red, I don't know, we
would have been a team player. They would have found a way like saber
Tooth because he's dumb apocalypse would have been like Omega Red, I'll I'll make
the whole world communist Rusher for yeah, I'll do it. I'll let you
remake the world, but as long as you like. But that kind of
conflicts with my world visions. So how does that work? Make me?
Just like, I don't care. I just want my wife. I just
want my wife buck. But yeah, let's break this down. So hey,
back to where we went back to. I think was season two when
the Gene and Scott wedding eventually happened. I think that's what it was.
But anyway, it's been a long time when the first one happened. If
you don't recall, they never actually technically got married because it was happening,
and then the wedding got broken up, and then she died and then she
was the phoenix, and then she was a dark phoenix. So this wedding
and then Scott had like a weird fling with that one mute and that like
was in to remember that, and they got like a fight or something.
Yeah, yeah, something, No, I don't know if it was her,
but something. There's a whole journey, but finally we're here getting married.
They get to say I do's wolverine. Good thing too. You can
see he's he's grown though remember last he's pissed. Oh it's just like arms
crossed, like he's spoiled brat. He's pissed. But he made it which
last wedding he would not because Gene asked him to company wouldn't And remember he's
in the dangerom fighting Scott just murdering him. Where at least this he went
up cut himself to just a cake. Yeah, and just said if which
was a weird threat. He said, if you heard her, I better
not find out about it. I thought he would have said, like if
you heard all come out to but like he's still saying like you and be
an asshole, but just don't let me know, like don't don't like as
long as I don't hear about But he has grown, at least you've seen
in the four years he's he's grown as a person. He's a bit better
now, so good good for good for Logan. He made some progress.
Agreed. Didn't they get married before? And it was on the boat the
honeymoon, No I got interrupted? Oh why I think on the honeymoon then
either no, didn't you get interrupted? Or wasn't there something like was it
one of them fake or something? No, No, I remember sinister was
the priest, remember right, Well, no, it wasn't. No,
it just didn't even like matter. He was not an adoor ordained priest.
Like he couldn't say they were legally married, so they thought they were married.
They win on the honeymoon. But yeah, he was the prize.
Yeah, it was a ruse. You're not actually married. This This priest
must have went through the fucking Ringer to get tested. They had to like
make sure that you're an immune. They're like they're throwing them in the danger
and they're excelling him, hitting with that perfume. He's like, I'm just
a man. Yeah, that electric shock thing from Wolverine in the last batch
episodes, it's definitely done to this, just waterboarding him. Are you really
a priest? They drop him off at Creeds for a weekend just to test.
Oh you too. It takes massive ships here you go. You know,
it's like one of Nightcrawler's buddies. Two Sir's like, oh yeah,
I know that. I know the guy. He like brings a man that
I just like torture him and then don't even invite Nightcrawler to the wedding.
Friends, but he's the incredible Nikron to the ship house with you. What
do they call Curd of the Circus, the Magnificent Necrawl. It's all pain.
But yeah, they get married. There's cake all around. It's a
good day. But this is where well, well good, yeah, good
moment, good moment. At least they're legally binding now it's it's a marriage.
So I will say this is why I message you guys on Discord,
and we've brought and we've we've talked about Xavier quite a bit in a series,
right, and we've said that you know from it, like the versions,
at least you guys know, you know, Patrick Stewart, Macboy.
They all have their issues, but and sometimes we assholes, but maybe there's
not been a Xavier. And even myself reads comics that's been as dumb as
this Xavier. He's constantly making mistakes, constantly doing choice. We're like,
oh, what's happening here. So all of a sudden, they're driving,
right, they're driving, They're going to the honeymoon. Gamut fixed the vehicle.
There's like an explosion beats for some reason. Things Gambut's pulling a prank,
poor guy, like, is your problem Christmas? Situation? That wouldn't
shock me for Gambit to like tank this car in some way, wou him
going down the word explosive card in the in the engine or something. Yeah,
they're called them swamp rat. They won't let them cook. They're doing
this. He's like, no, it's not the time for jokes, Gambit,
And I was like, no, men want to me Like, so
that happens, and then Xavier rolls up and Jeans passed out. Cyclops has
passed out, and he says, I quote, oh, I shut the
defensive perimeter down for the wedding. What why? Out of all this is
a team. The X Mansion has been destroyed multiple times. The very first
wedding was infiltrated. They couldn't get married because a priest was another man turned
into him and fake to be a priest. They have constantly the dark fiends
everything. There's been so much shit that has happened to them in the X
Mansion. Why on this day when they are getting married, does he decide
I should shut down the defensive perimeter let them in turn it back on.
I don't know, maybe it takes like twelve hours to up. Like then
like you you find a way and look what happened. All went to shit.
They almost lost everybody. Again, I could not believe he said,
oh, the defensive perimeter I turned down. I would just like as far
as the exs like one of the X manager, are you fucking kidding me,
Charles, Like it's like he wants something bad to happen, Like he's
just hanging on like, oh, this could be fun. Click, Like
I could not fucking believe this man. Like they should after this the same
way Storm had to give it her leadership. They should have took a vote
and said, Charles, you're done, like there's no like you gotta go
hang out with a magneto somewhere, Like I could not believe he he did
that. It's just irresponsible of the professor to do in my opinion, idiot.
Yeah, this this was really solid of fying just my thoughts overall.
I think on Charles for this this animated show, and he's just you know,
he's nowhere near the level of of like the Patrick Stewart's or the James
McFie on just like maybe his trustworthy scale where like everything that they say,
it just feels like it has some sort of just ancient wisdom to it,
and I like they always have just like the right answers, and we've seen
multiple times throughout the show. Now this this Charles just making such stupid decisions,
not really always looking out for the team. You know, he's he's
a horny buggers who's a little lundrng gets calling, he's ready to just leave,
and he just kind of, I don't know, I feel like he
doesn't put the team or family first. And that's that's kind of the complete
opposite of a feeling that I got from, especially like my first experience with
Charles Xavier was Patrick Stewart, so like that had always been like the base
and building up on that. Seeing this version, I feel like there is
some good Charles moments throughout the show, but I will I'll take that that
live act version over this guy any day the week. Do you feel like
this version could be the one that gets killed and doctor Strange multi Well,
some people think it is, but I don't think. I just don't.
Yeah, some people think it does because he has he has the chair,
right, he has the exact same chair that Xavier does here, So some
people think it's that version, so it would make sense because he fucking just
gets Boy, do you guys think that it would be more like beast responsibility
to be like the shield guy for the mansion? Maybe he was off Xavier.
My mind is bad. I think years are putting too much on this
being like a malicious like having malicious intent. But why it's not malicious issue.
He's like, yeah, switch up, but why why why they've had
so many attacks? But don't everyone else know that the thing was turned off?
Like I don't think would someone else be like, hey, let's turn
it back on? Like why is it just falling him to turn it back?
He just said it like it was a revelation, like oh I turned
the defensive perimeter down and none like like they didn't react that, but like
if all of them knew that, why would he say that out loud if
they all knew that fact? But I mean, the X mansion, as
you mentioned, has been fucked up so many times, So what is the
what is the perimeter? Anyway, it doesn't work at all, but it's
a defense. It's it's should be off at least if there's any defense perimeter
or does that mean he's just constantly been turning it off. This whole series
records what happens. What was this? It was in the last batch of
episodes, like someone just walked up to the door and like Jubilee answered the
door, and what was that? Who was that? Again? Was some
evil guy in disguise? Right? Was it? Like one of the It
was just like okay, but it's still too He probably turned off the defenses
then, but still like what they just let anyone walk up to the door
and knock on the door if so, Like, I don't know what the
difference would be if the perimeter is on. He is the homeowner. It
is up to him unless he has given those rights to someone else. He
and he it's not that he said the defensive perimeter must be off. He
said I turned it. Yeah, it was the word in for me.
I guess I just feel like there's there if you want to put evidence against
Xavier being a piece of ship or dumb. There's many examples in this series.
This is not the one that flows to the top of my mind,
to be honest, Like it went in one ear out the other. He's
He's done worse before, but it's just the second wedding day for these two.
You think you would, just it's the second time these guys have tried
to get married. You think you'd be on the most high alert ever.
Like, I think Turkey's right he had a couple because he's like, oh,
my oldest students, Like he says that he's just so happy. But
yeah, man, somebody needs to take those controls away from him. Like,
can't be storm because if they go hungry, should should we give them
food? Like and I don't think it's Scott because when Jeane died, he
like fucked off. So it makes me wonder whose job is what in the
accent, like who takes out the garbage? You know? Do they even
do that? Just like a viscerate the garbage. Yeah, that's you,
if you get rid of it. Yeah. But definitely Jubilee, I feel
because she's the kid. It's still it's still happening. It's just like she
just do that. She's to clog the toilet. Yeah, Jeane and Gammon
are making lunch every day. It's a fucking World War three in the kitchen.
Give me that mustard more than me. They're doing the dangerom the kitchen.
But like, really, though, if it has to be Beast then
now I feel like that is the de facto because Storm, like we said,
Morlock's not good Cyclops. If Jean dies, he's gone. Gene,
I think she's just too something had happened. She goes out the Wall,
can't be Wolverine, can't be to Belie, she's still too new. You
could maybe argue Rogue, I guess because Rogue like she's like that war captain.
But I feel like if Xavier goes, which I feel like in ninety
seven, I feel I don't know where Xavier is, but I feel like
Magneil's maybe gonna be Actually no, I think the writer said, like it's
like it's Storm and Cyclops not fighting for it but still there. But I
still feel like, as right now, the most equipped person to lead this
team is Beast currently because all the other people are having issues. See what
the Xavier would do too, is if he goes, he'd leave a note
saying, Okay, yeah, in my absence, here's this new person,
a totally new character. He'll be leading the team now in my absence,
they would just introduce some new character. I don't think they would designate,
like even though Beasts is qualified, they would give him that honor. I
met this guy Deadpool, and he's he's gonna lead the team. Now logan
a friend from your passa what all Scar hulks Son. Hulks Son comes up?
You remember the green monster off the news. This is his son's scar.
He'll be leading here for the next month. Yeah, remember that.
I remember he went to Sage Lands and just less of them a note like
going to Thing Fine Magnus and like that was it, like and that lasted
like an entire season. He was gone. Anything you say about the wedding
nuptials, I always just not the nuptials. But I love I mean,
the nasty boys. Say what you will about about this crew, but I
always love that like purple vampire dude that like can distort his body in weird
ways. Like I love when they first strike from that tower, the roof
of the mansion, whatever it is, and he like comes down with this
like life raft sort of boats thing where he like brings in the rest and
nasty boys. I always read that guy's name. He's so freaking cool.
I just I just love that that that villain. He's one of my one
of my favorite villains. I would say in the series almost never really gets
like character development. They almost need their own theme when they enter the because
they're always like together. There was a creepy scene and then when it happened
though, that's swoop with a sound that kind of throws you off a bit,
so I can't remember. I tried to hit it a bit, yeah,
to listen back to it. But yeah, the Nasty Boy's just that
name. I always forget their name as soon as they say it's like I
think no one says it except for Storm, but Storms always like they are
the Nasty Boys, And don't you forget it. The Nasty Boys have taken
gene. I think that if we ever a rebrand, that's what we gotta
go as nowhere just the Nasty Boys. Yeah, yeah, uh, poor
Bishop. I swear every time this fucking guy goes back to Forge's lab,
there's how many times has he gone back to like no, now this is
wrong, this wrong? This time he gets back, he didn't have to
get take one step in, he just gets sucked right back in and then
he's fucking thrown in with his fucking looney tune character for as he says,
days, weeks, years. I don't know, but it's been a long
time. So yeah, but yeah, we got introduced to reintroducing us the
Cable and Bishop and the time travel stuff. Here we met a Cable's son,
which I don't know if they actually name dropped here Tyler. How could
you want Tyler? I just don't believe in the age of yeah, three
nine ninety nine when you have a father named Cables, like this is my
son Tyler redacted because I thought they were gonna reveal something in this episode.
They didn't. I don't even remember if they reveal. I've been saying like,
oh, there's a really cool thing with Cable coming up, and I
don't know what's actually I can't remember. I might have model affected that they
won't but wait, because I think he's suposed to be ninety seven, so
I think they'll do it there if not, but uh, yeah, son,
Tyler just looking like a generic Gears of War multiplayer chapter. They're all
jacked, Like the second they get out of the womb. I feel like
Cable's putting them through boot camp, you know. But yeah, I feel
like even Cable has so much gear on him that it kind of shrouds it
a bit. Whereas Tyler. He's just got the arms and you can see
that those are those are some big that's big, juicy arms. They just
Greco Roman wrestle, growing up the table and again, yeah, but no,
I feel like, you know, we've mentioned it before, what it's
worth mentioned again Cable in terms of you know, leaving villains aside. I
feel like he's just consistently the coolest side character in this series. Every appearance
he has in the show is gold, I would say. And I don't
know if I can think of another character who has had like this, like
three or more appearances and every time is like damn, this character is is
great. Every time they're using the Tyler stuff thrown in this like Sun character.
It's maybe a bit like on the nose, but for me it kind
of works that like he has a goal for why he wants to get back
there and why he wants to achieve this other than just like save the earth,
save everyone. Yeah, but I like that he's trying to do all
this and he will like save humanity first, but he he really really wants
to get back to his son at the end. I think it was kind
of a good way to tie in just a little bit more humanity to Cable,
who's very much been just like vigilante murderer kind of guy throughout the series.
And he like he's he's way up there on the cool factor. He's
a badass, uh, just a toe with Apocalypse man, Like that's so
easy. He like stuns him multiple times with just his rifle there. So
yeah, I know, great character. I feel like he was already hitting
on the bad ass rey just the he's got like the spy secret agent because
he's got his gadget, but the time travel aspect too. It's just such
a great character. But here like adding in the I guess, the the
family motivation to him. It just I didn't need it, but like the
fact that I got it just makes the character that much more interesting and not
just maybe one note. So he was fantastic. I love. That's what
I was saying earlier. I absolutely love the first act of this of this
episode, just very like Indiana Jonesy too, when he's like going through like
the the Egyptian temple and yeah, it was just really cool sequence of him.
I guess with Tyler there, it was great to have you know,
just his son. You know, it's super super super jacked. I feel
like I could have had this mission without him, and maybe it would have
been safer in the in the end result as well, just not having Tyler
here at all. But nonetheless, he was here for the ride and he
lost his computer, which was maybe something that he regretted. But I mean,
I love too. It's simple but effective for me. It's a little
cube. Yeah. Does anyone have a good mister sinister voice? He just
has a hard voice. It's like very like it's got like auto tune robot
stuff to it. Mister. No, I can't like it's because he has
it's like high and low and it's like but like robotic nasally. No,
I can't. I just I need to hear it. But yeah, I
maybe get some k what's your best mister? That laugh? That laugh I
just did is a little That was your best? Taylor? What you got?
You got the voice modulator? Maybe you could do it voice. I
could probably find it. I gotta listen to his voice to tune into it.
And it's like he's weird pronunciation of things, summers like he has that
type of stuff and you don't know what he's going to do with those well
you know, well, good no, no, what are you trying to
say? I was gonna say, welcome summers, welcome. Let me get
the voice model, let me see if figure this out. Okay, I'm
gonna send you a line I want you to say because I love this quote
of his, but I feel like you need to have the voice, so
I'm gonna okay, I'll put this in the private chat. However, yeah,
make sure you tell him to do the accent first, so Dylan don't
do what he did to me, you know, like, yeah, accent
first. Yeah, you're a Southern Canadian. But I oh, I did
like that when Sinators showed back up. I feel like we were talking about
Jubilee. I feel like in the past she's just like coward or ran or
they'd be like, go hi, Jubilee and she does. It didn't work,
but at least she went tow to toe with mister Sinister for a second,
Like she shot at him and like stood in front of Charles. So
I appreciate that she was like, no, fuck you, I'm standing my
ground. She did get defeated, but still I think again some growth with
her to show that she's not like the scared little girl she once was.
So I don't know if I was just incorrect by my definition of toe to
toe, but I feel like going to totoe with one second is just a
little I don't know counter. I feel like tototoe is like an even match,
not just like standing up to mister sinnature. Yeah, I guess you're
right. I would agree to you in this sense. I guess I could
say she stepped up and then she sat down, But yeah, you're right,
I'll say I'll overdact to to toe, But no, I agree.
I like to see the growth of Jubilee since season one. I feel like
she's just been able to do a little bit more here and there. She's
still, you know, the d clogger of the mansion, but she's,
uh, she's grown at least. I'm curious to see what she what she's
looking like. In X Men ninety seven, I feel like my request for
this modulator has just destroyed Taylor's computer or something. It looks frozen in time
here, like he won't be back for another hour. You good, Taylor,
You're not You're muted. I'm here, I'm here. Did you find
a nice voice or oh no, I I when I pulled it up but
I guess it went super laggy for a second. There. Your name changed.
I just realized were you the blue boy? I changed it a while
ago. Yeah, okay, anything voice module are gonna happen. It's gonna
happen. It's gonna happen. Give me like thirty seconds. Okay, how
would I be the next episode? What we do? It gives you a
quick rating for this episode. I'm gonna give it one thumb up. Okay,
I'm gonna go thumb and a half. I'm going two thumbs strongly in
the sky. I'll do thumb and a half on that one half that looked
like that hurt your arms? Won't Bill do that when you have an arthritis?
You know, just be stuck. Beyond Good and Evil Part two,
Promise of Apocalypse. Apocalypse kidnaps another psychic mutant, l'landre Warren's exavier of Apocalypse.
Xavier determines that he is capturing psychics. Yeah, okay, anticipation Shard
and well if we can go to protect Si lock Still she is kidnapped by
me need and take it too. Apocalypse and the Access of Time Control Center
in three nine and ninet nine cable reveals a plan to go back in time.
Yeah, no, I think this is like it's not a bad thing.
I think this is like the setup episode as far as they laid out
there right the plan. But it's a fun little thing of getting all these
different psychics. I can't remember had we seen Silock in the show yet or
not. I don't think this is our debut. Okay, maybe in like
a maybe a screenshot, but I think never named or never had a voice
or anything. Always been a Silog fan because yes, as a young child
you see that, you're like, oh that's a good caution, but just
very cool, just a badass character. But yeah, no, I think
this was lots of fun. It's it's neat. It's not all the set
up episodes like oh okay, it's all good stuff. You're getting Magneto back
in the fold, You're getting the laundro like, you're starting to do what
we talked about where it's okay, you're showing the scale of this. Think
is everybody from space different multi versus the X Mansion that has no defensive perimeter
up like everybody's involved here. And Magneedo coming back was good because we just
talked about how the last few episode seems like he's been more on the good
side and he's leaning that way, but then right away he mixed like messes
up the X Men's plans, gets Silocks, So yeah, I think there's
a lot of good dynamics going on with this one. Yeah. I I
had another really good time with this one once again, like just introducing so
much. Silok Is is like a big X Men character, so to get
her in there, and I just I love the whole setup with her and
Archangel and this whole thing at the warehouse. To me, that sequence is
just so much fun. And you know, always always a mixed bag when
you when you get these cosmic characters in here, the Launder and crew,
But I think it's used sparingly here and it works for me. And it's
kind of I guess it's it's a risky idea that this whole idea of this
apocalypse setup is that he's going around collecting all the greatest psychics from the mutant
world, and so we obviously know like Gene and Xavier, but to like
introduce characters in this and then make them part of that core plot was kind
of like an interesting risk, but it works for me, even though,
like, yeah, this little Laundry's like sister or daughter or something. Oracle
is some character that maybe we saw them in one of these episodes, but
I don't remember her. But I still kind of like that set up,
and then I love that that's what leads to siloc need you need to be
hunted down, and that whole set up of the X Men finding her and
whatnot is all all really fun for me. So I had a good time
here. This is like a good way of once again, if this four
part is like the series finale, this being like here's the best of from
like the cosmic level characters from this series, I think is a good thing.
You get Gladiator back in there, who is the new Marvel snap card
last week? Just just some fun stuff. So I I really enjoyed this
episode. Again. Yeah, I feel like this is just again ramping up
on just the scale of where I was already in the first part of this
series. I was saying that I think I think that that first one is
the lesser. I feel like, I don't know, I don't I don't
want to just rate them as I go, but this one was a significant
step up for me. Of the different people that were at play here.
Obviously, getting Silock in here and actually having time with her for the first
time in this show was super exciting, just because she's really sick moveset.
I think, you know, like the ninja type characters, but she's got
like the full ninja garb at the start of it. And I really just
the setup between her and Archangel, and yeah, I really like both those
characters. I feel like, what Archangel just such a dufist, which is
funny to me. He's such a funny character in this episode. Oh yeah,
he still is badass though. I really like his blue log. We
were just I we were just talking about too oh cable. It's just so
badass in Total Apocalypse, remember like a couple of seasons so different Angel though,
Yeah, because Apocalypse like fucking studded him up with a bunch of perks
and like Beta and shit. Remember a couple of seasons ago when Cale just
beat the shit out of the Angel in his own home, like multiple times,
and my favorite thing was and saw luckily he recovered, but Silac came
to his home and Warren's like, oh hello, and then she's like boom,
she fucking Heather Graham kicked him and like it was a thing where I
like, he's losing again in his own home, Like this is so embarrassing
God to like a fifty to fifty but fuck, like people keep coming to
his own home just beating his eyes. That sequence is so funny to me
because at no point in this series has anyone ever interrupted a character mid quip,
you know, like they always let them finish their line and then they
start duking it out. But Archangel, Yeah, for the first time in
this series, like midway through a line, the writers are like, we
don't even need him to finish this shitty line, Like Silok's just gonna knock
him out so good, I'm gonna like him. I'm gonna like him.
So I'm hoping for some more Archangel in the future. But in one request
in ninety seven that they have Cable kick his ass again, I really want
that. Even very first episode just absolutely kills him this time too, like
he's clearly not coming back. But yeah, I kind of forgot my train
of thought there, but I'll pass the great episode. Okay, I got
I got one contender voicely I need you guys to confirm if it's good.
And I got another backup, which I think is better, but I need
you the better one. First we're doing okay, okay, here we go.
It's like a Chipmunk voice, like it won't be chipmunk. It will
confirmed, it will not be chipmunk. Did it work? Can you hear
me? How does that sound? Zero percent? Who is just like a
chad you said, It's like Australian accent or something. It's so weird Australian
be like this. So how long did you know your brother was a serial
killer? And then it's like when their faces are like the camera's off,
and then now say, oh I didn't know. Sorry, was that the
better one or the worst one of the two? This is the worst one.
Okay, one you don't answer my question. Say I swear I didn't
know. How long did you know your brother was a serial killer? I
swore I didn't know? Like when they do that, yeah, yeah,
it sounds like it's an AI voice. So yeah, that's no. Okay,
Well I'll try the other one. He'll try the other one a different
dude. It sounds like make me a different man, Like that's the same
sound Like I love geek verse. All these guys are great. Who the
sounds like, Now it's really He's not like if Carl was working on his
North or Southern American accident accident. So Canadian there you go. Okay,
this is true, this is so true. Give us the better one back
here, here we go. I'm not ready to bring the line here with
the better voice. Miss Summers is just another broken blossom floating through the winds
of time. That's right off that sinister and what a great line. All
the build up for that line fucking amazing. Mister visitor's industry can be a
bit of a geek sometimes himself with du fis if you will, like an
archangel, but that line is killer. Oh that that's definitely runner up.
That's your runner up. What is this one titled? This one you're using
right now? That was called magic chords? Okay, I'll just and what
was that the first one you gave us? What was that called? The
other one was just an AI like expedited one. That makes sense. Okay,
that's what it sounds like. I'm back on the magic right, Yeah
you are. Yeah. So it goes into like a sing like a tunes
sound like you can you can hear me as long as I talk and it's
like I'm singing. Well, now you're trying to sing, you know.
Okay, I Miss Summers is just another broken blossom floating through the winds of
time. Okay, give give me that line back. I'm gonna say.
I'm gonna ask you about your brother again. Okay, keep it up.
Okay, So how long did you know your brother's serial killer? I swear
I didn't know you've gone? How long was your brother's serial killer for?
I swear I didn't know? I should have got you a longer one,
But oh jeez, thanks for that. That we we should for like fifty
for the first ten minutes of a newscast, let's all pick the AI option
and just freak out the listeners and make them think, like what's going on?
Like, let's do that for fun, like just the plugs and then
turn it off, but just for the be like what's going on? Can
you imagine there was like an AI one where you can like have it emulate
someone a specific person's voice, so like I could emulate Kirkland's voice, Kirkland
could emulate Travis. Yeah, it's dangerous. I don't Trav's gonna be get
me to say things. It's gonna be with his big mouth swamp rat calling
people swamp rats on that. Kirk Taylor, what do you actually think about
this episode? Though you haven't talked about that because you're busy in the voice
stuff. This one, to me felt like it was just a little bit
slower and just slightly like down just a smidge over the last episode. But
I feel at the same time it's it's building towards something, and I like
where we're going. I like what we're building up towards. But yeah,
no, I think it was cool to see more of our characters that we've
seen before kind of come into play here, and you were I was really
trying to understand, like what was going on with Bishop and it was just
very loosely in the background. He's just there floating around until they use him
in the last episode of this arc. But uh, yeah, all in
all, it's not it's not my favorite episode of the arc. Probably I
put it dead last, but I understand that they were using it to kind
of show for us along to get to where we're going. And yeah,
was this the one where, oh gosh, I'm drawing a blank on that
now the Empress was attacked? Is that this one, yeah last time,
but we need you know. I was like healing over laughing when his sister
or her sister showed up and was like this invasion was going well, and
then she thinks that Apocalypse is gonna help her and it's all gonna go good.
But Apocalypse just betrays her. And the sister is not even like she's
all alone. She doesn't give a show. She's like going after the Empress
to like take her out, and she's like ah, like screaming as a
guardian like grabs her and like locks her down and whatnot. Like it's just
she got played hard. I I love so hard that because she like reveals
her entire hand and just like you can't go back from that point, right,
like Apocalypse and her, so I could be the Empress and he just
leaves her there. It's it says if Palpatine, you know, waits all
this time to like finally be revealed that he's the Emperor, but it just
doesn't work out, and like he has no support and then now everybody knows
your secrets and it's just your fuck. Now you're just going to jail forever.
So I definitely hysterically laughed at that point, I really did not expect
that to happen, Apocalypse, just like, fuck you, I lied,
and he just leaves Imagine Individual that he actually wanted Imagine and Revenge of the
Sith when like all the people confront him kid fists and everything, and they
just arrest Palpatine and that's it. He just gets arrested and now he's standing
trial and everything sucks with that family in this episode. You know, can't
be good for the future. M h. I got nothing else on the
specific one. Something the Knows we kind of brought up with Angel and Silock,
and I like that she got the better of them. Yeah. A
couple of sequences are really like one. I love Silock's plan when our angel
uh to capture arch Angel to like jump off this cliff. She knew that
he was gonna try and save her, and that's how she could get close
to him. And then she just like essentially just stabs him in the back
and he looks like he's in so much pain. So just that's like that's
a perfect introduction for a character in my opinion, Like that, just that's
who Silok is in a nutshell in that one scene. And then I love
that whole sequence at her thieves den where she drives all the way back.
It's like when she leaves the island, it's like nighttime. She gets back
in the city, it's like clear day, it's like noon. So she's
been driving for hours and hours and hours and Archangel's just been flying the whole
time. Following her gets into her thieves that she has all sorts of things
that she's solen from over the years, and I just love how the layering
of the sequence goes where those two are kind of duking it out, and
then saber Tooth and Mystique just pop up and then they join the fun.
Wolverine and Shard then show up afterwards. Then Magneto shows up, and now
we have like this all overral that's slowly been layered the way all these characters
go. Magneto like picks up an entire yacht and drops it on a building
super like, yeah, it attaches Wolverine to it and everything all great.
And then after all that said and done in the villain's escape, that's when
fucking Gamvin storms show up. So just a bit too late, but I
just I just love the way that scene kind of unfolded that was just such
a fun sequence. Yeah. Leading up to that too, when the car
scene was happening around the city and whatnot and our changel was following behind.
I liked how Shard or shar Sharred Hard Shard had the binoculars and just kind
of like scoping it out and it was just such a quick scene. But
it just made me laugh because she honed it on the vehicle and then Wolverine's
face just goes right in front of her body like she's trying to be like
doing the whole like incon needle look, and he's just like, well,
there it is, and just like dude, yeah, great, it's all
for me. Thumb in half again, I'm going thromb on a half as
well. Yeah, a little bit lower than me and than part one,
but I still had a great time with this episode some and a half.
It's one thumb, one thumb. There we go part three of Beyond Good
and Evil the Lazarus Chamber cable uses, and we forgot to mention that they
found like in a temple, they found like a crate or some of the
device that they could time travel with. So that's how him and his son,
you know, Okay, yeah, it was like a government, like
the government, every every government great government in the world had just a time
travel device that they've been hiding somewhere. Of course, uh Cable uses a
time traveling ship to go back to the past, but unbeknownst to him,
he's thrown off course by Apocalypse. Cable lands in the present. The x
Men decide to help him in destroying Apocalypse Lazarus Chamber. They go back in
time to the ancient Cairo. However, Apocalypse predicted this and uses this opportunity
to teleport Xavier to access you know, I think what I liked about this
is, of course, like the whole reveals, it's just okay, it's
just a mystique laying there. But it actually felt like, for we've talked
before in the past of Apocalypse, he's just kind of a big guy,
but then he'll like get you know, he'll fight, then they'll go in
a layer and then just fly away. It just felt like he actually outsmarted
the team and it was good because, hey, everyone knows he's after you
know, telekinetic people. We can't let me get to Charles, and that's
what they do. But it's great because they kind of said in a way
where well, if we get to this situation, this could be the killing
blow on him, so we got to take it. But no, they
do this big bump. I love the end of the episode. Cable just
runs out and what happened, Like he just like has that really loud,
like pissed off voice. But uh no, it was great to see Cable
and or great see Cable with the team, but great to see like Apoculps
kind of get one over on everybody. And also it doesn't mention it here,
but this is where we first started to get because last episode we had
like you know, Magneto tie wolvering up with the boat and everything. You're
starting to see Magneto on Apocalypse talk, which in the comics there are big
time rivals who would have thunk right, but like they always a lot of
times end up going toe to toe in situation. So I kind of liked
here that you're kind of seeing, you know, Okay, why did may
Needle come back? So I thought this was a really good character episode overall.
Yeah, it's it's been lower for me to me. This feels like
the setup or the bridge episode of the series. You definitely need it it's
all important stuff, and there is a couple good moments, but ultimately it's
just like the weakest of a pack of four really great episodes. So it's
still solid, but definitely the maybe low point for me out of the out
of the quadrology. There you go, Yeah, I really I really love
this one. I just feel like, yeah, we are continuing to ramp
up to the actual end game sequence here, but I still felt like there
was some really big moments, especially when they think that they get the upper
hand, and I don't know, I feel like I was just not expecting
the Apocalypse to like one up them in that sequence and just know of their
plan. It really just brings like a ripple amongst the crew too, Like
Cable just feels like these guys he's working with their amateurs. You know,
they can't even get their their plan right. But I probably just feel that,
you know, the surprise from Apocalypse, because he hasn't always been the
brightest character here. So yeah, I also just like the set pieces and
the places that we went here, like the look of them, like Apocalypse
is like traditional looks. It's freaky, Like him not being blue, I
feel like he's somehow scarier but really just imposing. And I like how you
have like his face design on all, like the hieroglyphics and statues and stuff
throughout the temple there. So yeah, I really really liked this episode.
So yeah, I reiterate what you guys have said. I think that the
time period going back to this era was really really cool. Just give getting
to go to a different setting and just have the whole team together going on
this adventure and a different version of Apocalypse is very neat. I like the
idea of like it's just the first pyramid when it was first built, and
yeah, it's just it's super super cool, and so I would love to
see more episodes that kind of dive into this, but they've done the time
traveling thing quite a bit, so I doubt would really get more in season
five. I just thought it was so cool though, and I got a
kick out of how mystique was really the Apocalypse. Yeah, that was probably
all along. There's two rats in there. Yeah, that was good.
I didn't I didn't know what he meant by that. I was trying to
figure it out. But you like pause the episode and you're like, man,
what could what can it be? In tune in next week. Yeah,
what do you guys think of the Four Horsemen? Appear to me,
this is like they were a good one off villain. I don't know if
they need to come back here for me, but you gotta have an action
sequence, so I liked it. I don't know, I feel like it
might be cheesy, you know, the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, but
I kind of liked that little gimmick, and I like that they don't do
too much with them. You know, we're not getting flashback sequences of their
family lives or anything like that. They're just goons. They're loyal goons to
Apocalypse. There. For some reason, feel like they had a bit more
character last time, but I don't that's probably not true, but I just
remember that like the first time because you have like their previous versions, right
and yeah angel and everything. Yeah, I don't think these are like the
coolest guys. I do. Like there's the one guy with the wings this
time, and he just has like the like grim reaper thing and he has
like a skull head, So I like that. But uh, yeah,
I'm have two minds where like they're not the coolest for horsemen, but I
also just like that every time you see Apocalypse, he has a new set
of people he's fucked over or that have agreed to this, and here we
are and he's just like, get me what I need. And so I
kind of like it as a staple. And they're always good, like cannon
fodder for the X Men to fight, right, you always know Apocalypse isn't
alone. Even though Apocalypse you can get to the size of a Kai Junes
already an issue. So and they're not just like goon level, you know,
they're like a half step up their mini Bush. Yeah, definitely,
definitely like the the Dark Order in Black Black Order, Black Order in Infinny
War. Yeah, children, I just wish the horse's legs moved. That's
the not realistic. It really bothered me. Yeah, they just like the
way they float around, and I like when beasts is like, what did
he say, like the flesh on the metal does not work very well?
Broke his hand. Yeah, I broke his hand. I got my notes,
to be honest. Let me see here we did refer to I think
a couple episodes ago, but this was revealed that Magneed's there to save his
wife because they can resurrect, and was it okay, yeah dog scene,
I think, okay, because yeah, he because he's like would will my
wife be back? And then Apocalypse says something about like once they have all
the the Telcanesi's people, they can do whatever and achieve resurrection and stuff.
So he's kind of reassuring him like, hey, you're gonna get your plan
here. This is when they started to put together the team, like okay,
who's working for what? They got Saber too, remember or that we
prepped about that that they they they captured him again save to Always the guy
gets captured, they put him in like some mad Max sort of mad yeah,
and they can't get it out of him. So Wolverine beats the ship
of him for an hour and gets it out of him. And I found
it very like unleashes him, right, so it's just like a fair fight.
He just monoymno, you know. Toe to Toe is just kicks locks
the door. I wondered, like, what is the point to once he's
started to beat because there had to be like they fight and then he's just
interrogating and beating him up. You had to wonder like when that point was,
you know, because what had to have been for a little bit or
did take an hour to get him down, and then he started reviewing him
the skin off of him to the regular version version the question though, because
I feel like they don't tap easily. You know, they don't say uncle
as one might say. And when he said an hour, I was like,
wow, Jesus, that's a long time. But like this is something
I found again, you know, I get it. But my questionable Xavier
experience going on here. Wolverine's dragging him in, and I love to At
the beginning, I can't, Oh, what is it? The back and
forth between Scott says you're too stupid to plan this, and then saber Tooth
comes back with, what my name is, go suck rocks, pretty boy,
So I gonna sucks rocks pretty boy. But I like that Scott just
call him stupid, but they all call him stupid a few times. So
he drags him in, and I appreciate Xavier's rule of he no longer or
I don't know why name he starts rule. But he's not gonna read people's
minds unless they let him. But like this literally the stake of the world,
Like they don't know this, but still they know something really Bad's happening
Magneto Sinister Apocalypse always people are teaming up, and he will not read saber
Too's mind out of some fucking like high like loyal yeah moy, moral compass
where he's like, oh, thank you Logan, but I simply couldn't do
that this time. And then he's like, I guess I'll make an exception,
but I could not believe again. I'd like, for if I was
Scott, I would have fucking roasted him right there in the chair. First
he put the brimmer down, and now he won't read savor Too's fucking mind
to find out where his wife is, which Scott says a lot on this
episod Where's my wife? But like he I can't believe Xamy just like such
a fucking asshole that he wouldn't read his mind. You know that one didn't
bother me as much. I didn't think it was hilarious that he had to
like say that, but I also kind of took it at the sense of
this is like how the show kind of nerves Charles, so you just like,
you know, read everyone's mind every single episode and there's just no no
peril for our heroes, and the fact that they like said the line,
It's like, Okay, this is why he doesn't do it every single instance.
But this is kind of dire straits now. But I feel like they
have a lot of moments when they kind of need that power. Uh So
hopefully, you know, it's not too many times where Charles, we need
to read his mind. Okay, Well I don't like to do that,
but I'm gonna do that this time. Like, I hope that's not a
regular occurrence either. I hope they actually stick to that because if they if
they mentioned that he has this moral conflict on on doing that without people's permission.
Uh, you know, let's let's stay true to that word and not
just forget about that moving forward. But you know when he'd do it,
if it was his fucking wife, you know, he'd be doing it for
a second, probably the one that made that rule. Yeah, don't go
read in my mind now, Charles. If it's a laundra, if it's
Moira who left him in the war, he's gonna go fucking read someone's mind
to like get some informations. I just think he's a hypocrite, but that's
okay, And then beaces also talk about some bullshit that I know. Taylor
Kirklin all bye, but they're talking about, oh, why is Apocalypse back,
and be like, well, there has to be bouncing, there has
to be good and evil. I just don't buy this, Like literally,
we're talking about apocalypse genocide in the entire world, and Beasts is like,
you know, we need a couple of rating days to enjoy this. It's
just like, what the fuck are you talking about right now? Beast,
Like some of your friends are could be dead right now, and you're like,
we need some bad Like because I've always said that with Star Wars,
I'm on the side where bounce means all the sith they're fucking dead, that's
gone. That's the bounce, not that's all we need good and bad.
But this was to me agree. He just went be like the guy's name
is Apocalypse and they're about to do the worst shit ever, and Beasts like,
we do need some bad people around, Like, no, you don't.
If you didn't have bad people around, you can all be in unison.
You wouldn't have people be fucking dead like mister Sinister would just be a
cool guy that runs a bar. Like I completely disagree with this. There
has to be evil. That makes zero sense in my mind. Beast is
a fucking idiot this season that's all say, Wow, that's that's fiery out.
What should I do, Beast? I don't know. Sorry, sorry
Logan. I feel like, for me, the whole balance thing, I
like it a lot in Star Wars, but having it here it was just
too close to that. And I also just didn't like him kind of defending
the Apocalypse thing. I feel like there was some some things that he was
bringing up that I did like him mentioning it's more of just like a philosophical
idea of like there's just always this like if you defeat Apocalypse here, now
there's just gonna be a bigger evil that rises to the occasion. But like
I didn't like him saying, you know, maybe we should rethink what we're
doing here, like no, let's fucking kill Apocalypse, but just be prepared
that, you know, like this isn't just gonna be the cease of all
evil. I feel like I just didn't like the uh the like maybe his
quote that he brought into that situation of just his it wasn't the time we
say that when the mission's over, not while like Jean's kidnapped with mister like,
it was not the time to bring that up, and it didn't make
a big deal in the show. But I just saw like eyes on the
team, Like I'd be pissed at Xavier. I'd be pissed at Beast.
If I was spot, I would be living right now, like Xavier won't
read Saberto's my Beast is saying maybe we should just give Apocalypse one. It's
like, what are you? What are you talking about? The entire x
Men morale is at an all time low at the end of the season.
Charles is just no defenses at the at the mansion, and we got Beast,
you know, being an Apocalypse apologizer, apologizer, damn it, just
wants to fucking cook and know them all. Yeah, and who knows where
Rogue is. She's just gone for the entire back half. She caught forgot
to mention she caught the what is it? The broke? Yeah, and
she was like, what am I gonna do with this? You know?
So she was bummed about that, But then why was she there, Like,
move the fuck off, you know, you catch it so she can
catch it. No, it's like she goes to catch it she's pushing all
the way like oh, like like she forgot the hours, so she's just
like but like it was just the yeah, floor, it was just weird
that she caught and she's like, well, this does me no good.
I just like, then, why are you fucking in the circle, Like
get out then, don't be a fucking mope or like trying to ruin Jean's
day. All these x Men in this episode just fucking moody bitches going on.
My god, Yeah, that's all I thought. What do you think
about the balance? Do you like it? I mean I I think that
uh, he's he's he's not really in a good mindset to say like we
need to let people die. I feel like the X Men serves as this
pedestal of acting people and defend the Jedi, defending everyone. And that's true,
But then you also have to look at how a magnet Works magnet is
the most positive and negative on there and negative is that's a great summary of
just just because this thing, just because of magnet Works, doesn't mean we
should be like, you know, we should let the Apocalypse kill billions of
people. That doesn't do anything. That's beasts argument. Yeah, it's just
logan Lords like he's gonna fix my head. No I can't, but you
know a lot Apo kills some people, but you won't die because you can.
Healso I think yeah, because it's it's weird how Beasts was kind of
looking at it like we shouldn't eliminate Apocalypse period. I think his defense is
like, hey, Apocalypse will rise up, and it's he's a threat that
we can contain. We know that we can contain them, so we'll just
keep one upping him because we've done that successfully. But if we eliminate them
altogether, then what unknown variable that it could be even more dangerous than him
would rise in that stead that empty void to fill up for our characters here,
all the villains we met in season one just keep fucking coming back.
So imagine if we murdered them and maybe they wouldn't be coming back. Now.
It's great for us because we have a show, but like we don't
know that, like and not all of them are gonna be Magneto, even
Magnil, who's turning good this episode, like doing some shady stuff into like
he's he's on board the plan until next episode when he finds out like something
else is happening. He has a good guy turn, but he's still like,
eh, I don't know. This is the guy who had essentially a
free pass to leave jail and decide to stay there for an entire season,
which could be a year long, we don't know. As we're recording this
American Thanksgiving, I just feel like Beast would be the guy at dinner to
bring up politics and you'd be really over like done talking about it. They
okay, past me, master of tails, but you know you should really
vote for this guy because and you'd be like fuck, uncle Hank, like
shut up, you understand the balance of the political system. Like this is
how beasts me was in this episode, like pipe down. But alas I
have anything else to add on this episode. I feel like we've barely even
talked about the episode, and we talked about like a little bit of this,
a little bit of that, which which one for this one? I
thought this is one that usaid it was the weakest one. Are we not
on an episode four yet? Not? Yeah? This way longer than I
thought. Yeah, the Beast thing, the Beast. Yeah, I'm I'm
actually still two thumbs because I like all the character dynamics going on Actually,
I really enjoyed all the interactions. It's a good setup, So I actually
did really like this episode. I'm just some thumb thumb two thumb, two
thumbs. The season four finale, Beyond Good and Evil Part four, end
and beginning, Cable and the X Men destroy the Lastar's chamber just right to
it uh. They then use Cable's computer and three broad to trace a homing
device on it or sort to trace a homing device on the Professor Right,
okay, to trace a homing device on the Professor to control the access where
Apocalypse reveals his evil plan, which is to use the psychic to destroy all
time and recreate the universe in his vision, where he will rule unchallenged.
Feeling that he was deceived by Apocalypse, Magneto attacks him when Cable arrives and
joins the attack. Apocalypse or what is it? Cable arise and joins attack
Okay, that's it. Apocalypse begins draining the psychics, which causes time and
history to start to disappear. Bishop sees this and realizes the psych or releases
the psychics. Sinister and the Nasty Boys retreat. The heroes defeat the four
Hoist Horsemen of the Apocalypse. In the end, the psychics move Apocalypse to
an astral plane using Cable's time and spaceship. Everyone else's returned to the present
time of the mansion, Cable travels back to his time. I feel like
I missed that plot point that they put him into an astral plane. I
thought the way I took it was and they don't do this very often,
that Apocalypse just ceased to exist at this point. But I guess this opens
up the door that he could come back. Oh, I thought, as
they showed like they literally showed like a like a thing he was in kind
of I feel like what I Yeah, I saw it as just like him
getting just vanquished out of out of time completely. But that makes sense.
They always got to keep the villains so they can come back, just like
mister Sinister in the sand making his face or whatever he did back in well
in the in like the first episode, they have that flashback between Storm and
Wolverine, I thought, and uh, they let them know that once they
saved Xavier, and they let them know once the charge fades away on their
bracelets that they because they exist at a time, but as soon as that
charge goes away, they would just cease to exist. I thought that was
like a foreshadow equivalent to apocalypse, a situation that'd be quite the foreshadow.
I think they're I think they're locking him up in like, uh you know,
to do the current MCU stuff, almost like in a gang way where
if they don't lock him up, there's gonna be some timeline where Apocalypse will
come back. Where this is like for somehow, because he's out of time
right now, let's just put him in a little container, a little box.
I'm sure he'll never get out of, and he'll be he's never done
it before, he won't. Dude, No, there's no way for XP
ninety seven. They're not going to do Apocalypse, like they've already confirmed Sinister.
So it's like to me, it's like, even if he does come
back, right, the only way for him to live forever is to do
these uh what is it called it the Lazarus Chamber. Yeah, like every
hundred years. So yeah, I guess it hasn't been one hundred years from
this show to XP ninety seven. That's the thing, right, Like one
hundred years is never going to pass. So even if he lives for just
one more year, It's like you could just say that the show is only
take like a season only takes place over a couple of months or something.
Right, Yeah, yeah, he's coming up on that next hundred year,
you know. Yeah, it's right at the end. He's got to find
a chamber. It's panicking. Damn. My overall thoughts for this episode are
very strong. I just think that, you know, that first part to
me was maybe the strongest of the bunch, and then we a slide down
groud, but I still really loved episode two. Episode three is a bit
of that that kind of set up one. It was a setup one for
episode four to just fucking stick the landing perfect. And I think this is
a fantastic as I said, serious finale, season finale four, part of
finale. It was everything all in one. It was just a really great
culmination. I love the villains turning on each other. I think the motivations
they're all written really well, and honestly, like, in terms of any
X Men character getting any sort of arc, like, that's not really what
this is about. And I'm totally okay with it because it is kind of
that culmination episode. We've kind of done that, so I love the way
the plan just kind of gets unfolded here and even just a couple of random
things like Bishop out here just with a gun just like shoots one of them
out of it. It's like, how did apocalypse like not to calculate that
into the plan, But I love it because there's like that, and then
Wolverine smashes some random warb and that breaks everyone out, and I just I
love how this plan just crumbles in like every possible direction. It just like
it got too big that it like overheated and just dissembled on its own.
I just had so much fun with it, and I'm curious. I'm excited
to talk about this. This this clown guy character that we have we haven't
really talked about yet we mentioned briefly, but excited to talk about him.
Yeah. This was This was just a great finale. I liked, like
what you're saying deal, which is the different motivations for the villains, Sinister
you know, pretty loyal. I was surprised. I figured like he would
have taken any chance he could get to just get the upper hand on someone,
because I feel like he doesn't want to be like that, be you
know, like the the right hand man, b rate villain sort of thing.
He wants to be the top dog, but he was very, very
loyal to Apocalypse even when he was down and out. But yeah, it
was a great turn for Magneto and Mystique. And I like to reveal to
a mystique being like one of the horsemen and then it's revealed that it's so
overall, I thought this was just a great, yeah, delivery on what
we've been building up to, and not even just in this little arc here,
but really for the entire show, because we've had Apocalypse many times.
All these villains Uppeer many times, and I didn't think that they disappointed by
any means. Apocalypse was like dual wielding these blasters at one point looking like
Buzz light Year. I thought that was pretty sweet. Maybe it was more
like Zor or whatever he does. Kind of mean, why does Buzz have
two pistols? He doesn't have any pistols and two only has one pistol,
So I think it is. That's why, that's why I'm that's why I'm
morphed all over the It's been a long week. In my defense, I
don't really know that those movies very well, So it works for me.
We were just talking about another day, though I would have thought you did
we Yeah, you don't remember, though, that's seeing you mentioned Kirkland where
Mystique is really one of the four Horsemen. I got a kick out of
that, but I really thought it was gonna be Archangel just pulls like the
helmet off, just like a fly one too, So that tricked me.
I was not expecting Mystiq. But it was cool to see everything come full
circle and finally get the hay off of like why we've been dragged along here
with the bishop just being in this place with this fucking lunatic understanding Now like
okay, well it's totally by chance, and sheer fluke that he was outside
of the access of time here and he can actually shoot the psychic mutants on
the outside. Just total fluke and even bigger of a fluke that is a
silock right in front of me, right in front of him. Yeah,
oh my goodness, that's totally a fluke. So all it all worked out
really really well for them, and I liked again seeing how the villain's motives
definitely changed over time. Magneto was questioning what was going on to apocalypse and
all that Jazz and just Magneto kind of joining the team, and what does
he say is like, I'm I'm sort of like an X Men now or
something like that. Yeah, which Wilbaring saves him first and he's like,
oh, look at me saving you. What am I Exavier? And then
magnew it is the same thing, like what am I an X Men?
So that was a fun back and forth. I'm I'm getting really excited for
magnet will be on the full team of ninety seven. I think that's that's
just gonna be a fucking real good time to have him, because I think
we're gonna get that all the time. I feel like how they had three
seasons of Cyclops and Wolverine kind of quipping at each other, that'll be gone
and it'll be Magneto and Wolverine, Like that's gonna substitute that there, and
I can't wait. So it's gonna get another love interest. And then Magneto
just completely steals your way. He's yeah, and this fight's awful because like
Wolverine can't do anything against the guy that controls Metal, Like there's nothing he
can do. He can he can literally put him against the wall. Will
Magneto fucks this person like you must watch and they're having a good time all
consentral. Course, I'm just saying for Wolverine, sucks for him. But
so there, here's something. As I was going on to season five,
I more to say about this episode, but uh, I already said,
you guys like it's it's a perfect finale. It's great action. I like
the crazy clown guy. It's just gonna have everything you want. Like I
said, it's endgame. Ask I do about what I I told you guys
about, like how the next season didn't have a budget. I didn't know
this fact. Beyond Evil was meant to be the ending series until Fox decided
to buy more episodes at the last minute. Yeah that makes sense. As
such, the final six episodes produced have a different animation style to save money.
Sabon produced the final episodes in the series. In this about season five
in house that involving gar Graz Entertainment, to whom it had outsourced production of
the series until at that point. So the people that weren't available because they
thought they were done. That's why we'll get to its. Season five looks
a lot different and a lot cheaper. But I did not know this was
supposed to be the ending. I just thought that, oh, maybe it
was like some other reason. But yeah, there you go. That's why
I have such a finale sense, and I feel like you can look at
this as the true finale, and maybe the other seasons like some lost episodes,
and then ninety seven it's like the real revival, you know, because
it's my head as well. Yeah, but yeah, we did talk about
the episodes. But yeah, I didn't mind that. I can't remember what
the character's name is, but I I didn't mind that because I feel like
sometimes we can get those characters like a a Mojo vision and it can divide
the panel right where like a Me and Delan on board and you guys not
so much. But this guy, I feel like he used the right amount
of annoying and the right amount of clever and the right amount of funny.
I think him and Bishop had a good back and forth. I just love
that. I felt like this guy just really wanted to hang out with somebody,
and Bishop just wanted to get the hell out of there, you know,
Like that's and it makes sense because Bishop's trying to say the world,
but to this guy, it seems like he's seen like multiple worlds and multiple
times it's really nothing to him. So I enjoyed that character. Yeah.
So with the transformation at the end, like this guy's Beyonder, right,
Travis, Is that what's going on? Yeah, And it's funny that ties
in beyond good and evil like that. Yeah, that's what they're going for.
And a lot of people there's been theories and rumors that that might be
something that ties into Secret Wars, and there's even some sort of things that
they who knows what happens to Majors, but they might morph one of the
final versions that came into the Beyonder and stuff. So I think you're gonna
see the Beyonder in the next few years with Secret Wars with this type of
verse, So Jam yeah, Taylor, and kirkl like yeah, Like Kirklan,
you might know, I can guess this. But the Beyonders like the
guy who sets up Secret Wars and like a Spider Man animated series, and
you see him two or three maybe more times across that show. He pops
in there a couple of times, and he has a very different suit in
Spider Man, but his head looked identical to when this guy transformed at the
very end. So and I feel like, yeah, with that title,
Beyond good and Evil and the whole time aspect and this guy being obviously super
powerful kind of all makes sense. So that's very cool for me as a
big fan of the Spider Man show and that character in those storylines from that
show. And yeah, and it's gonna be interesting because Beyond is in that
one, but I think he might be in a little bit, but I
don't know if he's in the most current Secret Wars. And that's why there's
Secret Wars, the first one where there's Battle Planet and just heroes and Villadin's
fighting from multiverse supremacy and that's it. And then there's this one which,
as you see the Marvels, there's like the more current Secret Wars. His
universes are colliding together and they got to combine. So that's why white people
kind of at first for a while wrote Beyond off because like, well,
we don't need a guy to host like a beat him up thing. But
I think they'll just retool him to do something else. But yeah, I
like that he's like has this fake guys on and like just trying to I
don't know suss out the situation mm hmm, just having fun with it.
Yeah, it's my favorite part of it. I really like that arc type
of a character that just seems super goofy and insane, but like is maybe
someone pulling the strings or someone that you're not necessarily aware of very much reminded
me of I think it's jiggleag or something like that. One of the older
scrolls Daydrik Princes were very similar. Yeah, there you go, thrown around.
It just got a madness and just like really fucking with you. I
I really liked all the sequences between him and Bishop U. It was also
fun just kind of thinking about especially like coming off of Loki and the whole
Tva aspect and just people being out of time. Maybe think of like,
man, maybe Bishop's been here a lot longer than we than we actually he
could have been there for generations. Yeah, legitimately, yeah, I'm not
gonna say centuries, like the same length of Loki, just considering last time
that we saw him amongst our other X men there. But I truly am
just head Cannonian that he's been there for quite a long time, and maybe
I would have liked him to be a little bit more changed because of it,
because he just has had this one guy basically like a never ending pop
up window, just constantly saying he was there for fifteen minutes that moment,
Oh okay, minutes's a quick coffee break and that's it pretty much. Yeah,
so he got a lucky but then he got lucky that it didn't end
up being that one. He's like finally had enough, just grabbed his gat
started shooting, and then he got out should literally one on one they were,
you know, again bad. She's like Cable, he don't care.
He's gonna if it's just him versus Apocalypse, he'll do it. You know,
was in big form then too. Yeah. I thought that the character
was really just funny at first, and I was trying to figure out,
Okay, like what what is his emo? Is he really just trapped here?
What's going on? But I like how little bits of information kind of
seeped through, like Okay, he's basically the guy that built this place,
and this place all in all felt very TVA like to me, and I
think that's why I really was drawn to this whole area a lot more because
I'm still on that high of Loki right now, and the TVA and everything
like that. So that was all working for me, getting to see him
actually change after Bishop flops out of there. I really like that because it's
it's just it had that mystery. I didn't know what the Beyonder was.
I did a quick little google and it seems like there's some crazy shit involved
with that character. So I'd love to see more of the Beyonder and X
Men or MCU. The way they ended off his story here, it sounds.
That sounds but it made me think like, Okay, maybe season five
we're gonna see something Beyonder related, but maybe not. No, Okay,
it's very ambiguous ending. I'd say so season five is pretty I think only
Mojo Taylor Buckling. Yeah. No, Season five for the most part is
a lot of uh mostly just one off episodes. I'd say, just a
lot of like, oh, the X Men or up to some adventures.
I don't there might be a two part I think there's maybe two two parters,
maybe just one. But yeah, I think it's a lot of just
uh whatever, which makes me interested to see what they do for ninety seven.
If they is, it gonna be more like this where it's gonna be
you got a couple two parters, then has some one off or is it
gonna tell like a whole continuous story the whole season. I feel like with
the way animation and just storytelling is now, I don't know. But then
what IF's like like what it's literally like that right where it's a whole one
off until the ending. So I'm very curious what they're gonna do with ninety
seven. And I'm excited. I'm excited, just got that first trailer.
I'm excited to everything. So there wasn't a there wasn't a season that didn't
have a multi party, right, every season had one. Every season has
one. Yeah, yeah, definitely, uh yeah, I guess getting into
some of the stuff here, but I think all of Magneto stuff is really
well done. We talked about the the wolverine aspect of it, but yeah,
I love the idea that he was just working for Apocalypse because Apocalypse was
powerful and could bring his wife back because all these time time trickery that's going
on here. But then like the moment that that is revealed to be false,
he's just immediately against against him, wants to battle him, and that
goes into that whole scene that we talked about. But then on the flip
side of it, like mister Sinister, I don't know. To me,
I can't quite tell if it's Apocalypse actually cclude mister Sinister in on what the
whole plan was, and mister Sinister worked along with it because he's like,
Okay, this fits my worldview and maybe I won't have like one hundred percent
control, but I'll have enough control alongside Apocalypse and creating this world that that's
like an exciting That's how That's where's he gets his creative you know, inspiration
film. That's where mister Sinister shines, and Apocalypse is finally able to give
it to him because previously he's just worked with the fucking nasty boys who can't
They can get shit done, but not for more than like an episode.
Then they will can do whatever you want. I just want one Summers there,
Just give me one Summers because I love that bloodline and I'm gonna start
it exactly. So that's where I think I think it works out well.
That whether mister Sinister is maybe doesn't mind when the reveal happens, or if
he knew along what Apocalypse grand plan is, I think either way it works.
And that's why I think it's cool about him, because mister Senator not
the smartest guy around. You know, he's at some point part he's had
a decent plan or like maybe when it comes to some science stuff. Yeah,
he just h in terms of the grand plan, and to be fair,
Apocalypse had a couple pretty low tier plans as well for a bit there,
but then he spent seems like he just spent hundreds of years planning this
grand plan and then executed it fairly well until the very end there, and
obviously got a bit unlucky with Bishop shooting down that gem and the fact that
Bishop was there at all. So all that stuff with the villains turning against
each other just yeah, worked perfectly for me, so so cool. Yeah,
that's I liked about Sinistor because I think there was ways to dictate that
he could be in on it, but then also just felt like he was
trying to save face because the way he walks in the room, he's like,
I too, also knew Magneto Apoclus's plan, and like that's why I
did like Magnina, like he got that, but it almost felt like Magneto
still thought that was a possibility, like it wasn't a full and maybe because
he's been a villain, it wasn't like a what you're not doing that.
I was like, okay, you're doing this, and I'm out of here.
And he gets Wolverine right away, and Wolverine's like, look up behind
you, like they're teaming up. So that's fun. But I just thought
that. Then he's like, well, I know his true plan, and
then Sinnet so I knew it as well, and they're trying to like one
up each other. But uh, yeah, that was cool, and Mystique,
you know, turns around like, I guess Mystique's just doing what Magnito
wants. Yeah, she's maybe the one that doesn't really get much explanation about
what what she's planning to get out of this mm hmm. Which you know,
it's a four parter, so maybe they could have snuck some of that
in. I guess it didn't bother me. Yeah, it felt like the
focus is more on those main three. At least she's not down for like
a world genocide. I guess at least like she's she'll be yeah, yeah,
yeah, she chose her line in the sands. I appreciate that and
was helping our characters. So yeah, and I always like seeing Magneito a
bit more on the hero side as usual, so it was good to see
some team ups there. But yeah, Sinister, I don't know, it
could it could it could work because I feel like he he, he would
just be splurging at the idea to help Apocalypse that create a whole new world
and universe and oh genes and cloning and that's all. It was just a
sand pit for him. Yeah, yeah, good kid. I guess another
we we get like a you know, a snaplike scene here, we're seeing
these timelines vanish and these these people fading away, which is, you know,
pretty intense and like it's very short compared to something like an infanty war
way to your endgame comes out kind of thing. But I I still really
like that scene and then the people kind of blipping back into existence. I
thought it was all very fun, so shout up to that. I got
confused initially when that happened, because it seemed like they disappeared right before,
like certain others like in the background disappeared. It was like the focal point
of whoever they were showing, whether it was the Laundra's space people or the
people in the city. It just seemed like they like disappeared, like holy
shit, they got out somehow, like where are they going? And then
I don't know, maybe just the animation was not as clear as what they
did in the Infinity Warren game. But the sand I don't feel so good,
you know, making it easy. I thought for sure they're gonna use
this opportunity to due neither one of those three character cameos, because I feel
anything of those big events like here strange inspiiment. I thought that was gonna
come. But that didn't happen. But I h I was surprised because they
haven't shied away from that in the past. So I show Scar, Scar,
whatever the hell's got. The show Scar to Charlotte Junior, who had
not been created yet, but they show him, and they show the the
only the one one a kid with the hair, right, Taylor, the
one, Yeah, the hairdo that's Magneto's grandson, right, So good time?
It makes sense. Yeah, I I forget what exactly the sequence is.
But someone's doing something to Gene. Wolverine doesn't like it, and he
says, what are you doing with her? You pile of down puke he
called pute. Yeah, I love that dog puke insult. Like that's a
good one because it's like it's PG, but it's also very gross, so
it's like it's really it's really tasteful for me. And it's like, this
is like Apocalypse's execution on like all these people that specifically Gene I guess the
one that Logan loves the most, and it's like, not only is he
is he ending that, but he's like ceasing existence for so many millions of
people out there, and he's still just like pilot dog puke, like he's
just he's never changing for who he is. So that one definitely stood out
to me as well. So I think that's all mind. It's actually for
this uh beautiful four partner, it's all I got as well. That's all
I got, big double thumb for me has the finale here, beautiful beautiful
finalite this double thumb. I also want to show you, remember how I
had the who he got now? Who he got? Now? Well,
I bought another of those packs, my third pack, and sure enough it
was a store Damn I love it. Why'd that coming? Now? Specifically
at the end, I thought it was gonna be apocalypse the way you're like
building it up. But whatever, I totally now. I also snagged a
little ghost Rider. Oh did you have to buy chance? Nope, I
got Doctor Strange. I thought I thought you didn't get to know what characters
were in the packages. Oh no, well the ghost Rider is in this
oh ship, that's very specific. I got the whole bike. I just
imagine. Yeah, it was so little, the mac okay, it's a
mac bike. I just imagine in the store, opening all the packages just
to get ghost Rider back in security, the same guy as a Miss Center
of sur voice starting singing, fair enough, this is just another broken blossom
floating through the woods of time. How do you feel to about that way
of not wanting to give food out to people? You know? Yeah,
I think I should return it. Yeah. Oh well, it's it's a
cool storm. She's gonna the mohawk in the in the next season or in
season ninety seven, So yeah, really she is? That is right?
Wait? What really? I don't think many of the characters have changed except
for her. I think she's rocking to Mohawk. I'm pretty sure she is.
I could be wrong, but I did get so well that's it,
ladies and gentlemen, double thumbs across the board. Next week, the penultimate
episode the first five episodes of the last season. Yeah, we're there there.
It's gonna be interesting. I think there's gonna be some maybe some sludgeon
to go through these ones. But you know, then hopefully ninety seven is
just around the bend and we got a good time. So thank you very
much. We're here for this next and I'll i'll be boring Dano Brohly