1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Made a decision. I'll face sunny sad on my head A vision by too. 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,960 What's up everybody? Welcome to our special Thursday show with we have a 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:26,199 special guest in studio, comedian Laura House. Hello. Podcast Tiny Victories. 4 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:30,000 Yes, on iTunes wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, it comes out 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,200 of maximum fun. We celebrate little winds. It's a fifteen minute podcast. 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,119 Little winds, like I sewed that button on my shirt instead of throwing it 7 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,479 away. I mean, there's nothing too small for us to get excited about. 8 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:47,079 Love it. I love that. That's so funny. That is actually 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,280 a little wind. It is. It's a little wind. Did you mail 10 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,320 a letter? We want to hear about it? Genuinely. Stephanie gives me 11 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:59,200 my portion of check once in a while and it sits in my purse for 12 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,319 months. I forget get to send it and forget to deposit it. Yeah, 13 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:08,519 there's just right right, I'm writing her the check out of my bank 14 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,599 account. It's like, wait, where it all my middle I thought I 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:21,239 had? Yeah, yeah, there's all these my tiny victory Yeah. When 16 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:25,840 I do it with Annabelle Gurwich, who's a great author and actress, and 17 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,560 yeah, we find when we unpack tiny victories. For one, the world 18 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,400 is so kind of let's just say, big and terrible that we're like, 19 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,680 you know, go for the little winds and celebrate the little victories or like 20 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:42,480 fleeting joys, or like one day I found a fruit I'd never seen before 21 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:47,920 at the store. It was called like Buddha fruit or something and just shaped 22 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:52,680 bizarrely, and I was like, I'm very old to see a new fruit, 23 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,200 right I never like you think you know all the fruit in the world, 24 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:59,519 like there's I was like, I'm well past the age where I'm pretty 25 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:02,079 sure I've heard of all the fruit. And there was just something like what 26 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,039 it was just a tiny little moment of joy at the dumb store. Did 27 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,800 you buy it or were you just like that's nice, that's very expensive. 28 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,719 It was curated just to be an expensive fruit. I think it was like 29 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:23,080 sixteen dollars, like a giant Central Market grocery store in Texas. And I 30 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:27,719 was like, you know what, it's enough to grab a picture. It 31 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:30,080 was like, you know, when I get it for you know what I'm 32 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,919 I can guess what you taste like fruit, and then it sits in your 33 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,840 photos and then eventually you post it on Instagram and you're like, another tiny 34 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,719 victory. Look at that. I got two followers from this fruit, Like 35 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,120 I mean, the tiny victory that just keeps on given. So yeah, 36 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,960 that's what we focus on, very small, like all those little things that 37 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,639 you're like, you want to meddle for and you'll never get it. We 38 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:57,680 give it to you. I love yea. And people call in with their 39 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,520 tiny victories. Why that's so cute? How do you get the like where 40 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:05,159 do they call? You? Put it out on three two three two eight 41 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 five, sixteen seventy five. Oh there you go. People, it's a 42 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,840 hotline, and you leave it like a message of what your tiny victory is 43 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,960 you finished a book, like reading one, not just writing one, like 44 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:21,120 you did you know, you decluttered an area or whatever it is. Now 45 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,719 finishing a book like reading a book. I feel like that leaves tiny victory 46 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:32,120 and becomes like big victory. Oh dippen. What I have learned a couple 47 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:37,800 of things. One is it's so relative right to the person. So there's 48 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,280 a person who's like, I finish a book, So what I do that 49 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,039 once a week? Big? Not a victory. It's really it's that little 50 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:47,240 bit of background from the person that's like, I never finished books. I 51 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,199 buy them all they sit on a shelf, but I sat down. You 52 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,599 know, like, so you're really unpacking it is big, which is what's 53 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:01,280 fun. You're really unpacking what people have overcome the procrastination or a certain amount 54 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:06,599 of self doubt or asking for what they want or whatever that you know, 55 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:13,960 old pat, You're overcoming an old pattern right to accomplish this minor thing. 56 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:17,879 But but it's still like it's not going to make news, but I don't 57 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,079 know, it's it's it's fun to hear everybody's version of their their winds. 58 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,639 I think that's fun. Yeah, I love that. So can you tell 59 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,279 us? Tell us how you get your start? So you also have a 60 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,319 huge background in stand up and TV writing, but I think your story about 61 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:39,240 just how it all began is very interesting. Really Well, I'm from Grand 62 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,759 Prairie, Texas, and that's you know, we all know that's where stars 63 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:47,199 are made. That's you know, I can't think of a famous person that's 64 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,399 not from Grand Prairie, Texas. Frankly, we're all that's just where we 65 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:56,040 come from. But I just as a kid, like you know, everybody 66 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,680 in this time, I just watch TV, and I would look around where 67 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,879 I live and then look at TV and be like, I want to be 68 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,920 there. I just want to be somewhere else, Like it's a very charming 69 00:05:06,959 --> 00:05:13,519 town in retrospect, land of chili cookoffs and you know, little It's it's 70 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,240 a countrified the suburb, even though it's between Dallas and Fort Worth, so 71 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:24,079 it's it's near things. But I went to I just wanted to like perform, 72 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,519 and so I went to ut Austin. I went to the University of 73 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Texas at Austin. That's a hard school to get into. Now I'm a 74 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,959 very old. It was a regular. It was it was the state school 75 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,000 that you know. I mean, it was fine, but I don't. 76 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:48,879 I mean I was listen, I'm not super bright. I'm yes, you 77 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:56,000 have, I'm like in regular near the top. But I was in honors 78 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,160 classes and maybe middle like, so I'm not I'm not like the superstar, 79 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:03,439 Okay. I was identified as a as a little kid, as gifted and 80 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,040 talented. So I had a lot of pride in that. And when I 81 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,199 was older, I asked my mom about it. I was like, was 82 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,240 my i Q really high or something? And she literally laughed and she said, 83 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,240 oh no, you were just like, you know, part of the 84 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,879 best of what they had. Oh my god. So and this is a 85 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,399 loving mother who thought well of me, and she was a teacher, but 86 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,680 she was just like, no, like, you were not a genius anyway. 87 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,639 So I but she was, you know, you have a certain something. 88 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,839 So I yeah. So I was always like I always did well in 89 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:45,759 school, but also had this very strong notion that when I get into the 90 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:49,839 world, I won't be that impressive, like you're smart for Grand pre Texas. 91 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:54,040 And then it was like okay, And so that that has been my 92 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,839 experience. But I know something about you that I feel like would really interest 93 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,600 our listeners, which is which is that when you were pretty young, you 94 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,360 decided that you wanted to be a foreign exchange student. Oh yeah, and 95 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:11,879 then I did. Really I had a weird well, oh my gosh. 96 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:19,319 I I'm so hesitant to get into anything on the topic of manifesting or whatever. 97 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Stupid. Every now and then you know something weird and you can't explain 98 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,120 it, and you mostly don't mention it to people, and you certainly shouldn't 99 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,160 talk about it on a podcast, but I guess not this podcast, we 100 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:38,399 talk about everything I'm like, listen, anything goes here. But I had 101 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:45,879 eighth grade two foreign exchange students from England came and spoke to our English class, 102 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:49,920 Miss Anderson's Honors English of course, and everybody knows and they came and 103 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:57,000 spoke and I just I remember I had this thought, Oh, I'm going 104 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,879 to be a foreign exchange student, like like it was a desire, but 105 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,560 a knowing, Like it was more than just a when you go, oh, 106 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,600 I'm gonna have a burger for lunch. It was like a it hit 107 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,839 deep. I remember that having the thought. Don't think about it again. 108 00:08:13,199 --> 00:08:16,360 Sophomore year, we have a foreign exchange student, Johnny Show. He's a 109 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:24,040 very successful musician in Europe s Jo but it's pronounced Show anyway. He's fantastic. 110 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,079 He's a foreign exchange student and he's in our theater group. And he 111 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:33,480 started passing out pamphlets and it was like it woke up this little thing I 112 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:39,080 had planted had been planted or I plant whatever in eighth grade. And I 113 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,879 was like, Oh, that's right, I'm going to be a foreign exchange 114 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:43,720 student. It was like it was just like, oh, that's right. 115 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:48,919 These are the shoes I'm gonna wear today, and I faked a. I 116 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,120 got my parents to sign a thing so I could get more information about it 117 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,000 without really telling. I was like, just sign this and they weren't looking, 118 00:08:56,039 --> 00:09:01,919 and I didn't explain and just piecemeal got more information and then finally had 119 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,639 to come out with it and say, like, I what if I'm a 120 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,360 foreign exchange dent? And my mom always wanted to travel. They're very conservative, 121 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:15,039 middle class, Hey, we don't do stuff like this people, but 122 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:18,360 my mom thought travel was important and she wanted to do it, and she 123 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,720 let me do it and kind of lived vicariously through me. So they said, 124 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,279 yes, you can be a foreign exchange student, now where? And 125 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,440 then I ended up choosing Norway. Yeah, I kind of snack what ww 126 00:09:31,799 --> 00:09:35,799 fluent in Norwegian? Really? And that was your junior year, right, 127 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:41,080 Yes, That's what it came down to was. I was like, I 128 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,320 was like, well, if I can go my junior year, I won't 129 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,240 go my senior year because that's like when you're a celebrity, right, when 130 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,360 you're like live for that since kindergarten, like all THEO. When I'm a 131 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:56,720 senior, you know, like you're basically going to be famous of Grand Prix 132 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:01,120 high school. And then so it turned I could go my junior year. 133 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:03,399 So yeah, my junior year, I lived in Norway the whole year, 134 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,360 like fifteen. That's amazing. But before she got to Norway too, you 135 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,759 gotta tell them that the story what when you stayed by yourself? Oh you 136 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:16,080 want to hear my London story? Yeah? Oh wow? And senior, 137 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,639 well, because I have I have two seniors. Yeah oh really yeah, 138 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,799 oh yeah, this would be crazy for you to hear. So I don't 139 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,360 know that is such a wild story, Okay, I will try. So 140 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:31,480 it wasn't before I went to Norway. So what so there was a whole 141 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:37,320 process on why even Norway? And it turns out because Johnny Show was so 142 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:41,480 cute and as with a lot of my stories, a cute boy said something 143 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,240 to me and then that changed the course of my life. And so but 144 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,799 also he was so into Norway. Like I couldn't go to France or Spain 145 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:54,639 you had to speak the language. And I didn't want to go to England 146 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,240 or Australia. I wanted to learn a new leg. Anyway, I got 147 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,000 narrowed down to Scandinavian. Then I was like, all right, Norway. 148 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:07,399 So while I was in Norway. My class that I would have been with 149 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:15,759 in high school. They a teacher took the class to Europe every other year 150 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,279 or whatever, and so my group, a lot of my friends were going 151 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,679 to go to Europe with this teacher, this world history teacher. And so 152 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,240 I being a little piggy in things that I want, like here now I 153 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:35,399 want to do that, Like I'm already in Europe, and I was like, 154 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,519 what if I go to England. So they were doing England and Scotland, 155 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,600 you know, like on spring break, like a ten day trip England, 156 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,960 Scotland, spring Break, London, Edinburgh, and so yeah, super 157 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:52,320 fun. And I was like can I mean, I'm around lady mostly there. 158 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,759 It's just a couple. It's just a two hour plane trip for me 159 00:11:54,879 --> 00:12:00,240 or whatever it was. And so I talked my mom into it, and 160 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,720 I so my class is gonna meet and I had two choices with the flight 161 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:11,919 it turned out, so we're going to meet up in London. I'm flying 162 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,840 out of Oslo, and the two choices where I could arrive Friday night, 163 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,440 so the class arrives Saturday afternoon. I could arrive Friday night, but then 164 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,120 they don't get there until Saturday afternoon, what do I do? Or that 165 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,720 same flight on Saturday so I could arrive Saturday night, but then I would 166 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:35,399 have missed like five hours with my friends. So at I think I was 167 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:45,600 sixteen years old, I sort of lied to I omitted many truths from both 168 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:50,840 my parents and my host parents in Norway, and I did the Friday night 169 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,240 flight and my thought was, well, I'll just stay up all night. 170 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,080 It's London. Like I was like, like I think my little Texas his 171 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:03,320 brain was like, I'm sure there's like a waffle house or somewhere to sorry 172 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,159 like in London, but like but not literally a waffleog, but like there's 173 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,639 gonna be a twenty four like a diner or you know, like a Fish 174 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,320 and Chip's waffle house that you can just have coffee and stay up and all 175 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:20,360 that. It's insane. At sixteen, I would be hard as I recount 176 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,679 the story, and I think of all my friends that are parents. I 177 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:30,720 don't know how horrifying this must must sign it just like flu. But this 178 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,360 was also the eighties, right at different times we were. I mean I 179 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:37,440 had a you know, I had a season past to six Flags since I 180 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,960 was you know, eleven, or whatever, like we were at six Flags 181 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,080 all day long as like eleven and twelve year old girls. So yeah, 182 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,879 but so my kids have done that too at at twelve years old. But 183 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:54,279 this is different. But you so you fly flu to London by myself and 184 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,320 then you know, I was like, I want to see I had these 185 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,480 ideas. I want to see the theater. I was some theater. I 186 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:07,600 just had the even figure out public transportation. I know there's no Uber back 187 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,919 then. No, for sure, there's no Uber I but that's kind of 188 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,840 the deal with London, right as you can do that like you can you 189 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:18,679 can subways, you know, tubes, the tube, but at sixteen you 190 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,799 were able to like figure out where how to get where you needed to do? 191 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,519 You well, I had to figure out so it wasn't a thing in 192 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Grand Prix, you know, like big city bus systems. But in Norway, 193 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,840 I had to figure out busses and so I think, you know, 194 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:33,600 like you could find there wasn't even I mean this was nineteen eighties. My 195 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,039 kids couldn't figure out how to toast a bagel, and so I could do 196 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,279 that. I could do those things. Don't do their own laundry. There's 197 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:48,120 not a lot of they just started making their lunches and they're almost right, 198 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:50,440 you know. And my older one didn't even make her lunch even senior year, 199 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:56,799 so that I just can't I'm trying to picture them figuring out that's schedule. 200 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,879 But if they wanted to, though, they must do elaborate stuff that 201 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:03,200 they want to do, right, I mean they don't want they don't want 202 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:07,159 to make their lunch, so they're like, I want to do right, 203 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Like I just learned in quotes, I'm making hand air quotes. I just 204 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,600 learned how to load the dishwasher, because I have pretended not to know for 205 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:22,039 many decades, right, but I finally learned. So you get so you 206 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,320 get to London, you figure out get Tobe a little bit. Yeah, 207 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,679 I don't know where I would have looked it up, to be honest. 208 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,759 There was no internet. It was nineteen eighties, right, you don't have 209 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:37,559 a hotel to go to or anything. No, you're just gonna wait for 210 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:41,000 everybody's show up. No, I was gonna see. I was gonna do 211 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:45,360 London and then meet them the next day at the airport. So this is 212 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:52,799 what I did, And I honestly don't remember how I figured that out, 213 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,200 you know what, I might have just gone, you know what, there 214 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,320 will be a tube map at the airport. That's probably what I did, 215 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,080 because again no internet. It's nineteen eighty six. So I flew in. 216 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,919 I know I did this. I flew I wore regular plain clothes I flew 217 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,240 in, and then I put on fancy clothes and I went it and I 218 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,360 threw, you could somebody might have told me this that at the airport you 219 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:19,639 can get a locker for like two dollars or you know, a dollar or 220 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,360 whatever and put your suitcase in it. So I went in, you know, 221 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,080 I went in a little girl into the bathroom, and I came out 222 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,879 a fancy London lady, and I put my bag in and just took what 223 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,159 I needed and I took you take a train, you know, half hour 224 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:40,480 train for dollar or whatever into town. And then I went to West End 225 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:42,840 and I saw some play. I think it was called Decadence, and it 226 00:16:42,919 --> 00:16:48,000 was very dirty, but I but like with a lot of word play, 227 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,559 but a lot of just sexual. Hey we're gonna have sex word play? 228 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,600 I don't that's that was really my impression. And I knew it was dirty, 229 00:16:56,639 --> 00:17:02,639 but I was also like I'm seeing theater. I felt very so I 230 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 might as well have just been, you know, having coffee with toll Story 231 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:10,960 or something. I felt extremely, very fancy, and so then I was 232 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,960 like, I'm going to the Hippodrome. This is the days of Princess Diana 233 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,400 and fanciness or whatever. It's nineteen eighty six, and just when you think 234 00:17:19,519 --> 00:17:26,119 of okay, there's internet now and social media. We know everything about everything, 235 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,880 but back in the day, you just a few things were filtered through, 236 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,119 like magazine covers or whatever. So I just my my sixteen year old 237 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,440 brain was like the Hippodrome, it's a disco where Lady Diana has been. 238 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:44,799 And so I did get in a cab, I remember, because I was 239 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:49,759 like, I got to say that take me to the Hippodrome, right or 240 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:56,759 whatever. Yeah. So I get out and I go in, and I'm 241 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:02,400 wearing a long coat, which to me is like the fanciest thing a human 242 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,480 woman can wear. Right I'm in, I don't. I'm wearing my shiniest 243 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,359 shirt. I had gotten it for Christmas. It has because so nineteen eighty 244 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,119 six, it has like I'm pointing it like my neck. It has like 245 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:21,519 that pin we wore like where a tie would go right at the your clavical 246 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:26,200 indentation or whatever it like. I to me, I am like so fancy, 247 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,240 but I am. I think I was about to turn sixteen, so 248 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,200 I think I was literally fifteen. Yes, my birthday was that week. 249 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,920 I was the last few days of fifteen. And I you can't see him 250 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,519 on me on the podcast, but everyone I have a baby face now, 251 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,680 I always so I look like I'm twelve, but I'm like, mmm, 252 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:56,480 I'm up the steps that At one point, Lady Diana and I and there's 253 00:18:56,519 --> 00:19:03,480 a bouncer and I'm like, one, please or whatever I thought you're supposed 254 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,519 to say, and he just shook his head and was like no. And 255 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:12,000 I was like, I was like language barrier, maybe he didn't understand. 256 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,559 And I was like, you know, i'd like to please. I'm saying 257 00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:19,799 I'd like to come in, and he was like no, and I was 258 00:19:19,839 --> 00:19:25,680 like I'm here to dance or whatever, and he was like I think he 259 00:19:25,759 --> 00:19:29,279 said we're full, and I oh, like I took that in like, 260 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:33,400 oh, yes, they're full, right, So I turned I started to 261 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,000 go and then he let somebody else in and I turned around like aha, 262 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,039 they went and you're not full, and he was like, get out of 263 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,039 here. Oh yeah, and I was like, well, I think he 264 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,279 actually said there's another club across the street, which was basically like, you're 265 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:53,640 not lady Diana disco people. Also, are you twelve years old? Where's 266 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,880 your parents? My gosh, hold on, well let's take a quick break 267 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,279 and we're back. Okay, So you go to the club across the street, 268 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,920 right, I do. I go to the club across the street and 269 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,519 I meet. I'm just I don't know what to do in a club. 270 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:15,640 I'm fifteen. I don't. Before I went to Norway, I didn't even 271 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:21,599 drink, like I was adamantly Southern Baptist, non drinker. It changed very 272 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,759 quickly, but I was just like, oh, you know what I had 273 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:27,519 started at this point, I would have started drinking because I was. I 274 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:30,759 had been in Norway for a little bit, so I think, I but 275 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:36,519 I don't know what to do in like a bar necessarily, so I sit 276 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:38,880 there. I might have gotten a drink like a Gin and tonic or but 277 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,640 I remember a man, an like a twenty five year old or something like 278 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,960 a Youngish man talk to me, which I knew. Man I was pretty, 279 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:55,039 but he and I think he bought me a drink. Every every mom 280 00:20:55,079 --> 00:20:57,759 who's listening to this, their butt is that, I know. They're like, 281 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:03,319 this is how every sex trafficking story, it starts right, totally. 282 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:07,200 It's how a lot of bad stories, yeah starts, Yeah, it is. 283 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,160 And I because I really was, I was too dumb to know what 284 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:18,680 could have transpired. I just felt very I was a confident, cocky kid, 285 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:25,759 and so I ended up what happened at the bar was now it's like 286 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:29,319 midnight or whatever, and I and now I'm getting sleepy, Like I did 287 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:32,279 not count on getting sleepy. You know, when you're just you're not you 288 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:34,200 don't even sleep the first twenty years of your life. You're just doing. 289 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,039 If something's exciting, you're just doing it. And I was like, I'm 290 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:44,480 getting tired, and he and I apologize moms. He was like, you 291 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:49,119 can stay at my place. Oh my god. He seemed he seemed really 292 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,319 nice, but I'm also I'm telling you at the time he seemed nice, 293 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,319 but I'm also telling you in retrospect, he did like, you know, 294 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,720 when there's a creep bredator vibe, and you know when there's you don't necessarily 295 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,319 know when you're fifteen. But I can tell you now, like, yeah, 296 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:04,759 like he was dorky, I guess, is what I want to say. 297 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:10,240 Like he wasn't super hot. There's a lot of very dorky serial killers, 298 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:12,839 and that's probably one of the reasons they are serial killers. Listen, 299 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,079 there's a lot a lot of murder podcasts, there's a lot of murder shows 300 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,920 out there, and of course it's people you can trust, and it's but 301 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,240 I guess, I'm just I guess. I'm just telling you I am here 302 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:30,119 and alive. Yeah. But I did go home with him and so, 303 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:36,119 and it was only and it was like a subway and then a bus and 304 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,000 a transfer and it was only kind of midway through the route that I was 305 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:49,599 like, huh, maybe adventure, right, and so and we go and 306 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:56,880 he had like a roommate asleep on there was like someone sleeping there and he 307 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,599 anyway, we ended up it was like a floor. It was very much 308 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,759 like I experienced later in college pretty commonly. You know, like the guy 309 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,119 who's like, oh, let's go do this fun thing and it's like, 310 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,240 oh, my roommates here, we have to sleep on the floor. Like 311 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,599 we slept on the floor, but he made a little bed for me, 312 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,680 and he gave me like his sweatshirt, and we we did I mean we 313 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,480 made out a little, but we just slept like we just slept. And 314 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:22,440 I would you made out with him? Oh yeah no, I mean I 315 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:26,400 look, I was a lady at a club in London, a drink. 316 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,119 I'm not gonna make out with him? Holy what am I? So? 317 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,240 I'm not a monster? Yeah, I'm not a monster. I'm yet. 318 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,559 But it was like, but I remember it not being super super charged, 319 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,559 and that he was very like I get this. I would say this in 320 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,680 retrospect. I think he I mean, he couldn't have known I was fifteen. 321 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,400 I mean that's look. I can't defend him on that count, but 322 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:56,599 I think he was pretty aware of He might have been very aware of a 323 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:02,519 a a significant aged friends and was a little like, oh we're making it. 324 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:07,160 But also he wasn't he wasn't an animal. Okay, next day I 325 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,880 woke up early and I was like, uh, I gotta get back to 326 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,079 the airport like I had so now I'm on now we start the clock right 327 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,839 now? Is like they're gonna land at like twelve ten or whatever. I 328 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,599 need to get get to the place where I can take the train, like 329 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,279 I need to get to Victoria station or wherever it is, or Piccadilly some 330 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,920 one of those very well known stations and then get the train to the airport, 331 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,519 which is in the trains going to take a half hour. And here's 332 00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:44,440 what happened. So I wake up and I'm I kind of like sneak out. 333 00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,319 He's asleep, and I like switch shirts and I'm like and he woke 334 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,920 up a little, and I was like, thank you. And then then 335 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,640 I wandered down and I'm looking for like the bus, and I'm looking on 336 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,400 the signs, and I stole some chocolate to eat for breakfast, and I 337 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:04,759 was and I and I was. I made my way. I got the 338 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:10,359 bus system that I figured out, and I got back to the subway place. 339 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,839 I got on the train back to the airport, and I had they 340 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:18,880 were gonna land in forty minutes. The train was thirty minutes. Why I 341 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:23,000 made it. I was gonna the train broke down. No, only the 342 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,079 train. I was like, I made in the shade and I'm sorry what 343 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,039 And they were like trains And I was like, well, what do we 344 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:34,079 do? And they were like, we just sit here the train, like 345 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:37,880 like the train just broke when there's nothing we can do. This is our 346 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,400 lives. And I was like, this is not okay. And I get 347 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,599 to the airport and then it's like one or whatever, and everybody had they 348 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:49,680 had gone to the hotel. I had not written down the name of the 349 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,599 hotel because I was gonna meet up with my friends. Oh no, So 350 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,400 I get my suitcase out of the thing. I changed back out of my 351 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,759 lady and into my regular girl jeans, and I am like what do I 352 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:08,599 do? And I'm just trying to remember, and I took I got my 353 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:15,240 suitcase and I took it back to the I get back on the train, 354 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:19,759 so I go back into I go to that subway station and then I was 355 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,640 going to I had a phone number I could call. I remember that, 356 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,519 like I had something in my backpack I had, like I'm gonna make this. 357 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,640 So I've set my bag down and I and I get on the phone 358 00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,799 and I call this number to like what's the name of the hotel or whatever 359 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,960 it is? Or I had a number for the tame Like I can't call 360 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,440 my mom and I can't call my host parents, right like, oh, 361 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,279 I lied right, I came to England by myself. Now I can't find 362 00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,440 my friends. Hey, what's the hotel? Like, I'm like, I 363 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,400 can't, Like you cannot tell anyone I to this day, I haven't told 364 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,799 them, like, oh really no, I never it's too embarrassing. So 365 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,400 I mean, maybe they'll hear it. I don't know, my apologies, 366 00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:07,920 but I this is a really big show, so yeah I will. And 367 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,640 they're like, you know, it's the one I did hear. I don't 368 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,519 usually follow your work, but I did hear that one story and I don't 369 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,880 appreciate it. I suddenly get in trouble for all the things I like, 370 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,319 I get grounded, but I so what, So I make the I set 371 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,519 my back down, I make the phone call and then I got the name 372 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:29,039 of the hotel and then I turned. I was like, okay, I 373 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:33,400 turned around. My suitcase was gone, oh I I'm not kidding. And 374 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,319 I I've never been so panicked. This was when it was all really coming 375 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,880 apart, Like this is what I had felt, very blessed, blessed, 376 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,359 blessed, this worked out, this worked, and now I'm feeling very curse, 377 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,559 curse, curse, like like I don't know what to do and I 378 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,480 and I run one way and I run the other, and then I go 379 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,680 up to the desk of it was a little some kind of little shop, 380 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,480 and I said, I had a suit case and I had a thing. 381 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,200 And the guy said, oh, I saw these two guys go that way 382 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,400 with it, and my heart sinks and I and tears come to my eyes, 383 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,400 and I sat out and he is, wait, wait, wait, 384 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,880 and then he put my suitcase on the counter. He had it behind the 385 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:19,440 counter, and he said, don't ever leave your suitcase unattended. Real shit 386 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:26,799 taught me schooling you. Yes, I mean, to this day I appreciate 387 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,079 the lesson, to be honest, like what a wake up call, but 388 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200 also for what I had really been getting into in that moment. That list 389 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,079 could have been so long. Don't ever fly to London by yourself, don't 390 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,720 ever not bring all the information you need, go home with some guy trying 391 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,720 to get into the hipodrome, and even go see decadence. I really just 392 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:52,319 made a series of bizarre choices. But he had my heat because he was 393 00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,759 like, what were you gonna do if two guys had gone off with your 394 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,680 suit case? And I was like, no, no, thank you, 395 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,559 anyway, the hotel was like across the courtyard. Oh wow, like I 396 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,559 was. It was like right there the whole time. Like if I had 397 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,440 just I wouldn't even had the airport and back like if I had it was 398 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,599 it was walkable. Did Yeah. So I met up with them and was 399 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,000 just like hey, like hey, sorry, I missed you at the airport 400 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:26,880 and like then it just had a crazy week of drinking too much and making 401 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,839 out with all those boys that I could. That's an amazing story, right, 402 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,599 that's a story. Okay, so fast forward? What stop? Fast 403 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,480 forward? You didn't move to La you started stand up and started stand up 404 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,279 and on Austin and I had a very weird start, like when an amazing 405 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,440 start. When people say like how do you become a TV writer? I'm 406 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,279 like, I will tell you what happened. It will not be useful to 407 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,880 you at all. And I apologize, and I think a lot of you 408 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,920 will have that story of like I'm so sorry, un like it's all a 409 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:11,319 unicorn path, right, it's all just like this happened. And so I 410 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:17,279 was always afraid to do stand up, but I when I got my English 411 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:21,160 degree, I got it. I got it in three and a half years, 412 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,960 which to me it was like I got it in five minutes. I 413 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,960 really felt like Doogie Houser. But it's just one semester, like I was 414 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,000 like, yeah, three and a half years, like four, yes you 415 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:36,920 did, you took some junior college in summer, like calm down. But 416 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,240 my head is there's are you the same? There's nothing I'm right sized about. 417 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:45,680 Everything is like I'm the dumbest person in the world. Are like, 418 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:52,319 I'm kind of a savant. Yeah, I don't. I don't have any 419 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,440 reasonable view of myself in the world about anything at all. But the problem 420 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:00,880 is in this kind of a business, when you get these weird you can't 421 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,400 help. It's just sort of like reinforces some weird like I guess I'm blessed 422 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,400 they all support yes, they all see my what's happening up here? Like 423 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:15,480 nothing supports mental illness like this business when you're just like narcissism could not be 424 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:22,480 more nurtured or you know, self obsession, like there is just nothing nothing 425 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,960 like it. That's where it's really like, there's no business like it, 426 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:33,000 no business. I know, any mental illness you have really gets a nurtured 427 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,400 Yes, yep, I've seen it witnessed it. Yes, yeah, it 428 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:44,680 within and without it and so yes. I So what happened was I After 429 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:45,440 three and a half years, I told him, I said, Mom, 430 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,720 I got my degree and this was my plan. You're really gonna hate this. 431 00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:55,720 As as moms, I said, I want to go to New York 432 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,400 and make it. That was my mom's reaction. I mean, I think 433 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,160 she probably God bless her. I think she tried not to laugh out. 434 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000 I did the same thing. But with la I was nineteen and I was 435 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:13,200 like, I was eighteen. I turned nineteen driving to Los Angeles to make 436 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,720 it, and I didn't even know what I would make it in. I 437 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,720 was, oh my god, that's yeah. I was like, I don't 438 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,640 know what that means, but I'm gonna do. But I'm getting out of 439 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,599 here. I'm up out of here and there's a lot of opportunity. And 440 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:30,359 it's acting, singing what not that I was. I couldn't sing, obviously, 441 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,200 but I was singing, dancing, whatever it is. I don't knew 442 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,039 it, but I'll figure it out. That was the same and I the 443 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,279 vague thing I had in my head was if I have to be a janitor 444 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,960 until Lauren Michaels discovers me for SNL, then that's what I'll do. And 445 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,960 I literally picture myself like the with that big floor buffer that the school janitor 446 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,880 had, right, and as if at some point Lauren Michaels walks by and 447 00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,759 goes, you have a certain something like right shaking those floors at Rockefeller sen 448 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Yes, exactly, And I was like, I don't know why vibe yes, 449 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200 you know what? Like he like he walks by and notices the floors 450 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640 and then look kind of the kind of notices me. And then it's like, 451 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,960 do you do character? Do you have wigs and vests? Do you 452 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,960 do? Do you have a catchphrase and a vests? Please come up and 453 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:27,759 come upstairs with right, You're like sweeping floors. And then Rob Schneider comes 454 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:31,200 along and he freaking steals this. Yeah, and then he starts He's like 455 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,680 I'm making copies. Then I just riff with him, and then he's like, 456 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,599 You're the greatest partner I've ever And then now I'm yet touring with Sandler. 457 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,119 I mean, that was my I guess that was the plan. And 458 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,559 but my my sweet mom, who was a teacher from a family of teachers, 459 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:53,200 and she said I hear you get your teaching certificate. And she was 460 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:59,920 smart enough, like kind of genius enough to know how to Parents don't always 461 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,279 know how to talk to you, but in this moment it was kind of 462 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:05,839 brilliant because she said, if you never use it, fine, but I 463 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,159 want you to have it. I want you to have a career, you 464 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:17,119 know, in case you're making it doesn't in case what like? Can you 465 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:23,159 imagine the call with her friend. Immediately after that call, Laura just called 466 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,440 Verna. Laura just called and said she wants to make it. What is 467 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:32,559 wrong with she just graduated college? Dumb? What an idiot like? She 468 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:37,679 must have had? So she my mom was Carol and her best friend is 469 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,039 Verna, and they would walk around the high school track and talk about everything. 470 00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,079 And it must have just been along and talking about nick what even is 471 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:51,760 that naked? Naked? And what she used to make good grades? We 472 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:58,199 had such high hopes. What happened? So what I did get a teacher 473 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,599 certificate and and I finally tried to stand up. It was the night before 474 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:06,440 student teaching started, Like I finally became too afraid to not do it, 475 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,440 and so I did stay. I wanted to always be able to say I 476 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,679 did comedy longer than I taught if I never got to do comedy professionally, 477 00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,480 and so I did open mic. It went well, and then I taught 478 00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:22,960 seventh grade. I did stand up at night, a year of open mics, 479 00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:27,400 and then MTV. Some producers from MTV came to town. Because again, 480 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,079 now it's the night. I really hopefully older people listened to this, 481 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:36,039 because otherwise I sound like I'm one hundred and sixty eight years old. Because 482 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:40,519 this was pre YouTube, right, this was I mean we had AOL maybe 483 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:44,679 or we were about to get it. Anyway, it was like nineteen ninety 484 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,840 three and I so MTV came to town. I was not in the showcase. 485 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,239 I was too new. I was just an open micer. But as 486 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,719 with many of my stories, a cute boy said something to me and it 487 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,320 changed the course of my life. So this cute boy was a comedian and 488 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,440 he said, you've got to get in that showcase. He said there's only 489 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:12,199 one other female even in it, and she's not to be rude, but 490 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,400 forty No, it was it was like, this is MTV, right, 491 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,320 you're twenty four. He's like, you're cute and you're funny. But it 492 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,840 was like, you know, you would do like a five minute showcase set, 493 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,840 like I had six minutes. Like I was an open micro. I'd 494 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400 never even been in the big room, you know. I had just done 495 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,079 the little lounge, you know, stage, but I sold tickets there. 496 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:37,239 And so I went to the manager and I asked, can I do the 497 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,800 show? And I was like, I'll go first, I'll whatever, and 498 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,880 she was like, you don't have to go first, but okay, I'll 499 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,119 put you in the show. And she made me go first, and but 500 00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:52,519 I was I rehearse so hardcore. I practically hung upside down to rehearse that 501 00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:55,880 set, just like if like a bomb could have gone off and I would 502 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,800 have just still. I knew that inside an hour and I did the set 503 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,039 and I did well, and it was it was a huge win just to 504 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:10,440 do well within the comedy scene in Austin, like people who I love the 505 00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:15,559 local hilarious people were like, hey, that was funny, and I was 506 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,559 like, oh my god, I can't, like I can't amos youing is 507 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,400 And I'm on a show with a good friend of mine just passed away this 508 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:28,119 week named Johnny Hardwick, and he ended up being Dale on King of the 509 00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:31,119 Hill, but like he was an Austin comic and we were anyway. It 510 00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:36,480 was all part of this big show and so what. So that was already 511 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,840 a win. I'm teach seventh grade all day and then I'm you know, 512 00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:44,440 a rock star at night doing stand up. And the next day I went 513 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,519 to work and the manager said, you need to find someone to fill in 514 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,519 with you for you, which I was like, what did I do? 515 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,360 I thought I was getting fired from teaching. No, I went to I 516 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,519 went to my teaching job, and then I went to the comedy club to 517 00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:04,239 sell my tickets regular life. The manager at the comedy club said, you 518 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,880 need to find someone to fill in with you for you, and I'm scared, 519 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,360 like, oh no, I did I blow it? And she said, 520 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,840 because MTV wants to take you to dinner. Oh my god, what 521 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,519 a moment. I'm a seventh grade teacher. I mean I take role in 522 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:27,880 grade papers. And I was like, really an MTV. The two MTV 523 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,559 producers had seen me, and they took me and the three funniest guys in 524 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,119 town to dinner. And I couldn't even believe I was sitting with them. 525 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:43,920 It was with Chip Pope Howard Kramer and really so sadly he just passed away 526 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:50,039 a few days ago. Johnny Hardwick and I couldn't even believe I was at 527 00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,039 the table, you know, and and a free dinner on top of it. 528 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,480 I was, I was like, this is living. It was incredible. 529 00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,039 And so we went to dinner with them and then showed them around Sixth 530 00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:05,639 Street and did some things. And then they called a like a week later 531 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000 and they said, we want to do a show with you. Holy yeah, 532 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000 And it was a it was a longer road and blah blah details, 533 00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:15,599 but but I ended up starring on an MTV show called Austin Stories. You 534 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,639 remember that show? Yeah, it was another couple of years, but yeah, 535 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,639 hold on, let's take let's take one more break. Okay, we're 536 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:28,719 back. Okay, so you do so you're on Austin Stories. Yeah. 537 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,519 So, uh, we do a TV show where we came to LA and 538 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:36,880 we wrote it and we had did you tell your mom? By the way 539 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:43,400 I made it? You know what is so funny is I wish I had 540 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,079 it. I did talk to them and what I had told I had quit 541 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:52,639 teaching. Did you have to quit midyear? No? Great? Geez. 542 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:59,199 Yeah, it's had something what the weird little details kind of maybe they're a 543 00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:05,840 little bit important now was so our first iteration. We did a we filmed 544 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,079 some little bits and stuff, like it was the days of Beavis and butthead, 545 00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:15,440 Right, so what's our show? Like are we and Donald Loge did? 546 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:21,440 Donald Loge did interstitials as the cab guy and Dennis Leary did certain things, 547 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,239 you know, So we were like, are we interstitials you know, 548 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,960 hey? Or we Beavis and buttheads early Beavis and butthead they just watch videos 549 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,360 and made fun of them. So we tried that version and interstitials and like 550 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,079 Chip did a thing of like young guy Cooking show where he's really just making 551 00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:45,079 a TV dinner in the oven, like acting like you know, you're gonna 552 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:46,960 open this up here and pull this, don't forget this part, and that 553 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,079 the dessert's gonna get real hot, give that a minute, you know whatever, 554 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,039 like as if it's a culinary experience. And so yeah, we did 555 00:40:55,519 --> 00:41:00,559 the and so that was the first iteration, and then they passed. So 556 00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,280 I went back to teaching, right, I mean I had been teaching, 557 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,440 but I had I had kept my day job, like they tell you too. 558 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,800 And two years later, the people who had passed on us went to 559 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,039 Comedy Central and the people who had liked us rose in the ranks, and 560 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:21,199 there was some MTV retreat. I didn't know about this. Meanwhile, I'm 561 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,239 I'm reaching year three of teaching and I can't do it for another year. 562 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,360 And I had actually put in my notification to not come back. This is 563 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,039 I love the mom ango because what I said to my mom was, Mom, 564 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,880 I'm thinking about quitting teaching. She was horrified. She was like, 565 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,199 Laura, like, can you imagine, Like, Mom, I've done open 566 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,599 mics for three years. Like I'm I'm very much on the side of my 567 00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,000 mom now. But I was like, I was like, I can't do 568 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,280 it for another year. I was like, if I have to, you 569 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,920 know, work part time at Taco Bell to figure out how to be a 570 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,840 comedian, I will, which, of course that's not what she wants to 571 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,480 hear. She was like, what about what about benefits? And I was 572 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:12,519 like, I apologize to all mothers. I said, Mom, what about 573 00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:22,119 the benefit of liking your work? Wow? Smartass? What an entitled little 574 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:30,280 Jerney mom. Mom. I did the artist way, like there was just 575 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:36,280 no Mom, I've done some morning papers. I just really feel like my 576 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:42,000 morning pages have really revealed what's in my soul chart. Yes, I've taken 577 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,920 myself on some artistic dates and here's where I've landed. She was mortified for 578 00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:51,880 me, But what are you gonna do? I'm twenty four or whatever at 579 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,480 this point, Like what can she do? And so two weeks later, 580 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,360 I don't, MTV call and said, now we do want to do a 581 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:07,800 show with you. Like like that, the move to Comedy Central of those 582 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,239 and the rising and the rank that had been going on, I did not 583 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,480 know. I quit teaching and then MTV called and they flew us out to 584 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:20,039 la which already was beyond my wildest dreams. Anyone when if somebody buys me 585 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,119 a plane ticket to that's amazing. That's made it to me. Yeah, 586 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:29,480 and some people private jet or where I'm like, any ticket any at all. 587 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,559 If I'm if I'm writing where the luggage goes, I'm like, so 588 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,920 bummy a flight. Oh. I flew coach too for my first TV gig, 589 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,920 which was Star Search, and I was like, well, I don't 590 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,880 I guess this guy's the limited I mean, what agent am I going to 591 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,079 go with? This? Like fighting over me like this is about to get 592 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,079 crazy. And then I got two and a three quarter stars back on a 593 00:43:54,159 --> 00:44:00,000 coach flight the next day, so I'm similar, Yes, I'm similar, 594 00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:04,400 of just I could not believe, like they flew us out. We're at 595 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:10,440 the Universal Building which overlooks Universal Studios, like we're weight twenty something floor and 596 00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:14,000 we're meeting with them and they're like, we think it could be this and 597 00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:16,320 this and a half hour and you know, like a show. And then 598 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,280 I was I was like, can we go to the park for free? 599 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,519 And they were like yeah, and they sent a pia too, so like 600 00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:29,239 we're We've flown here, tall building, right, you know, I'm listen. 601 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,360 They're like, do you want to shoot a show? And You're like, 602 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,039 could I just ride some of the rights? I just ride the new 603 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:38,599 Jurassic Park rides at the time and exactly, and we but that was listen. 604 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,199 You know me well enough to know I feel fancy if I'm wearing a 605 00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:49,840 long coat, so I mean I am, and a shiny shirt and some 606 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,280 kind of plastic jewel. So I'm Graham Prairie through and through. So I 607 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,519 was, I mean, this is like iouga cartoonized, Like I can't even 608 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:04,760 believe any of this is happening. And then they we had and we ended 609 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,519 up on television. So I I quit seventh I quit teaching seventh grade, 610 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,840 and one year later I was starring on a show on MTV. Because it 611 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,840 was international, it was around it, MTV, it was everywhere. It 612 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,400 was a huge show. It was a show. We got you as celebrities. 613 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,920 I remember knowing who you are. Oh my god, Laura House, 614 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,840 like the people in Austin Stories, that was a huge deal. But you 615 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,599 really kept it to yourself. You really was the first time hearing about it. 616 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,840 That's true. I didn't think you ow, you really derored. But 617 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,559 the real the real world Austin Stories were preceded the real world. Right, 618 00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,199 No, there had been some real world, but we were earliest or whatever. 619 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,960 Okay, yeah, but like they like we met the casts of real 620 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,239 world like they we went to the Video Music Awards and we went to the 621 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,440 Film Award. I mean, I know that stuff is fun. It's wild, 622 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:01,760 right, yeah, you would have been a right, yeah, it's 623 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,159 yeah. It's crazy. You're in a room with like four hundred celebrities, 624 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,559 like when you're like everywhere you look at like but you don't you have to 625 00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:15,760 keep reminding yourself that you don't know them, you know, because like Snoop 626 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,280 Dog didn't want to talk to me or whatever. You walk the red carpet, 627 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,880 Yeah, I think we might have. We were there before it aired, 628 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,920 so they were a little like, I mean, you can be here, 629 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,760 but just you know, Mum's the word, right, They were like, 630 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,679 nobody really cared yet. But so you do a season. We do. 631 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,159 It's riding high, it's doing well in the ratings. It did do 632 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,599 well. I was I was actually just revisited. I read some articles about 633 00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,639 it. It was doing well, but then there was another structure change. 634 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:47,079 Boy, so people from Comedy Central then I think, came to MTV and 635 00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,840 then our people were not and so Brian Grayden came to MTV and then he 636 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,440 he asked it, you know, like it didn't really help him. It 637 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,559 wasn't his show, and it was apparently I just read an article because I 638 00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:04,760 don't remember any of it from the time. You know, at the time, 639 00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,800 you just think it's about you, like at the time in a bad 640 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,199 way. You know, at the time, up until two days ago, 641 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920 at the time, and for decades after, in many many therapy sessions, 642 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,559 there's just that thought of like, well, if I'm really good, it'll 643 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:27,679 go well, oh it was canceled. Oh maybe I wasn't that good, 644 00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,119 you know, like it's it's a nightmare way to think of the world. 645 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,639 But when you don't really know, like, look, shows come and go 646 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,199 and sometimes it's political and it doesn't matter and like one of many shows. 647 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,679 But when a show happens to you, like or for me that young, 648 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,039 it just was the big you know, there's no perspective, like I don't 649 00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,440 know what kind of Buddha you would have to be at that age to be 650 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,639 like no, you know, shows come and go right right on TV. 651 00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,920 So yeah, but it but that's what led me to LA and then I 652 00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:06,639 pursued acting and I've done it a little bit. I'm really not that I'm 653 00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:08,920 the one person in town that will tell you not really a good actor. 654 00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:14,960 I'm not a good actor either. I'm a horrible actress. It's like a 655 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,079 lot of people are horrible, but they do not know it. No, 656 00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:20,920 no, no, I knew it. And when I got a TV show, 657 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,039 when I was hosting my own show, and that was like such a 658 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:25,400 huge deal to me, and I was so excited. But they were like, 659 00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:29,280 okay, so we're going to do these like kind of cold opens, 660 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,880 like these little sketches, and I was like, let me stop here there. 661 00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:36,280 Yeah. I was like I really can't act, and they're like, 662 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,679 well, of of course you can't, like you're a comedian, like you'll 663 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,400 just you'll act a little bit. And I was like no, no, 664 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,719 you don't understand. I'm so bad. And then I had to do this 665 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,239 sketch. I've told you this story before that, but back for sketch. 666 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,880 Sketch acting is yeah, but okay, so we have to do this sketch 667 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:58,360 and quotes acting Okay. I think it makes it even hard I'm supposed to 668 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,239 be playing. We go to my lady, who does basically this scene is 669 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,239 I'm like laying on a table and I'm getting like a facial or something, 670 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,599 and my nails are going to get done. And then I get a call 671 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,599 on my phone and it's my husband and he can't find my daughter's cleats. 672 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,199 And it's supposed to be like, oh my gosh, I can't even relax. 673 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,159 I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's like mom oh the cleats they're 674 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:25,159 by the front door. Well, so I and my friend Laurie was was 675 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:29,519 the head writer of the show, and she'd kind of written the sketch out. 676 00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,440 So I'm laying on this table and then the phone rings and then I'm 677 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,400 like, I get up. And afterwards she's like, I don't know how 678 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,280 to say this, like nice, really nice, Like I don't mean this 679 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,039 in a bad way, but like when you got up from the table, 680 00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,800 it was like you were rising out of a coffin. Like You're like, 681 00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:50,280 I didn't even know how to sit up. Yeah, I don't know what 682 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,400 acting class they teaching up in a more natural she was like, can you 683 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,519 just just like sit up, like you're really like sitting up? I was 684 00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,960 so so warm thing I did. I was so self conscious in your head 685 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,239 sitting up. I'm like, oh, I've got to sit up. I 686 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,679 was always narrating whatever is Yeah, now all the phone's call. Now I'm 687 00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:13,639 taking a call, Like, how do I how would I talk to my 688 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,199 husband? Like I can't ever if I'm not just making it up. If 689 00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:20,960 I'm reading that, I'm like, I don't know how you tell me that. 690 00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:22,119 I really would say to her, just give me the line reading, 691 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:25,079 Just tell me how to say it sounds natural? Right? How you hear 692 00:50:25,159 --> 00:50:28,880 it, There you go. I got I got better at it as it 693 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,199 went on, but I'm saying like at the beginning, I was just like, 694 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,760 I don't I'm not good at this. I'm not a natural. I 695 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,559 totally get I totally get that because there is something and there's a point where 696 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,159 there's no fixing it. There's a there's a point where you're pushed off the 697 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,280 edge with feedback where you're like, am I sitting up? Now? Now 698 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,840 I can't sit up? How do humans sit up? What is sitting up? 699 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,599 I'm sitting I'm I'm sitting. I'm saying the line, am I is 700 00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:55,559 this sounding? And you're you're what you want it to be in your brain 701 00:50:55,639 --> 00:51:00,639 and it's coming out and you're like, this is it's gonna get today? 702 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,719 You know, like yeah, yeah, well this I Oddly I kind of 703 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,639 was a good actor on Austin Stories. We were I mean when I was 704 00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:13,639 playing Laura House, but we it was it was scripted, but we would 705 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:16,800 also improvise and then they would adjust the script from there. And we really 706 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,639 wanted it to sound like at the time, like Larry Sanders ish. We 707 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,400 really wanted it to walk the line of like we wanted people to go, 708 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,039 wait, is this real or is it not? And they we were their 709 00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:32,119 first scripted sitcom, so we really wanted people to kind of not know. 710 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,840 So there was something great about that, and also that it was mine where 711 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,679 I'm really really terrible. I learned quickly in la is like auditions because I 712 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,079 don't know. I didn't write it. I wasn't part of the process. 713 00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:50,679 I don't know what you're talking to context. Hey, yeah, And when 714 00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:53,519 you tell me to split the difference, I do not. I cannot. 715 00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:58,199 I cannot wrap my you know you're too big. Oh that's too small? 716 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,880 Split the difference. I'm what. I'm not an air condition, Like you 717 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,960 can't just put me on six, you know or whatever? Like I don't 718 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,840 know. And making choices is just like there's only one way, like when 719 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,280 I read it, this is the way it funds to me, so like 720 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,480 I don't know another way to make it? Do you want to go outside? 721 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,119 Like do you want to go outside? No? Can you make it? 722 00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:22,800 Want to go outside? Do you want to go outside? Yes? 723 00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:28,320 It is it's so weird. No, But like but like you're I did 724 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,239 an acting class one time and there was this scene where it was like it 725 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:37,679 was like a marital breakup disillusion and it was like, I did the scene 726 00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:38,719 and then she goes, well, I get that you're mad at him, 727 00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:42,719 but you were married him. You also love him. And I was like, 728 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,320 I'm out, like can you put that in You're mad at him but 729 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,360 also you love him? And I was like, I don't see how I'm 730 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,360 mad at him or I love him? So yeah, really, good actor 731 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,760 over here. Really I can't wait till I get all those words for acting. 732 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,199 So you did, but you did some acting I did, and then 733 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,639 I yeah. And then I got into writing, like I just learned. 734 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:13,440 I wrote. I wrote in San Francisco on web series stuff and again I'm 735 00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:16,400 very old. Before we even called it webs it was years before web series. 736 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,880 We were what we just called internet cartoons. And I was like, 737 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,119 I love writing. I love that I write it, and then it exists 738 00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:30,320 in the world and if somebody watches it. Unlike my acting, it doesn't 739 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,920 depend on how I do that day, like my stand up, my mood 740 00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,000 or what it's like. You exist, it exists, it's in the world. 741 00:53:37,079 --> 00:53:42,159 I loved it. And then I wrote on Blue Collar TV and the 742 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,400 George Lopez Show. I sold some shows I've written on Samantha Who and the 743 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,679 show Mom and the Bath to winning UK show a couple of years ago and 744 00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:00,320 again sold some more shows and so I just love Yeah, it's great right 745 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,760 now, but hold on, let's take let's take one more break and then 746 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,840 we have more interesting Yeah said, Yeah, we were talking before the show 747 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,719 and I want to hear about a story. Okay, all right, here 748 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,880 we go, let's take a break. All right, we're back. So, 749 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,840 Laura, before we were, before we started the show, you were 750 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:23,559 talking about an interesting story about you getting engaged, but also do you well 751 00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:29,719 there's two Okay, we wanted, well I'll just stay the night I now, 752 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,719 Well, okay, first, what would come first? Talking about finding 753 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,159 because you're adopted my birth mother? Yeah, which, naturally, which part 754 00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:43,760 of this which story comes first? Getting engaged? Okay comes first? Okay, 755 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,960 Yeah, because I was with him and said it, I ended up 756 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:52,960 in a stable relationship. So Laura, you're engaged. We're such good interviewers. 757 00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,679 Yea. So so how did that come about? How did you meet 758 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,320 it? How can you meet someone? Well? I had I had been 759 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,599 so here's what I like. So I met, I'm in love and we 760 00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:12,880 met in late forties, and I'm at the age where me finding someone who 761 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,000 loves me gives people hope. And I know this because they say that right 762 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,039 to my face. Like people were just like, I just you know, 763 00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:24,079 if you can find someone after all that, And I'm like, why don't 764 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:30,840 you just pump the rest of that sentence. But it was like I had 765 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,599 been married twenty years ago, was not awesome, And then a series of 766 00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:38,599 relationships and then I was with someone who I thought was final destination and then 767 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,199 one day and we lived together, and one day he said I don't want 768 00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:47,440 to work on it anymore. And I was like, uh, oh, 769 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,760 well, I mean that I feel like it's something you have to do. 770 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,320 So I guess we conclude Like it wasn't like it was kind of a cowardly 771 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,719 breakup, right of just like I don't want to work on anymore. So 772 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,400 I went through you know, it wasn't a divorce, but it was like 773 00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:07,440 a like emotionally for me, it was like a divorce, like, oh, 774 00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:09,760 the big thing. And I went through like what do I want? 775 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,239 And who am I? And I took here's another story that we don't have 776 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:20,360 time for it, Like I took an orgasm workshop. I was like, 777 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,119 I've taken back my spirit and my I did all that like if you you 778 00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:30,920 know, if there's a Diane Keaton movie about your divorce thing, like that's 779 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,199 what I was. I did all. I signed up for all the like 780 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,079 divorce lady things that you do to like get your power back or whatever. 781 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:43,239 Then I started dating, and I was very like, how do I do 782 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,840 this better than I've done it before? Like I'm I'm today, I'm sixteen 783 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,320 years sober, but you know I was like ten years sober or whatever, 784 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,480 like how do I really do this in a good way? And so I 785 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:04,519 fumbled with that, like I you know, I'll like I'm impulsive. I'm 786 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:09,159 impulsive, and I'm compulsive. It's fun. And so I'll start the morning, 787 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,920 you know, intentions are important, and so I'll like, you know 788 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,079 what, I'm just gonna date like a lady. How do I do that? 789 00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:17,960 And by noon, I'm on every app and I answering every message, 790 00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:22,519 you know, and I don't know whatever. And so I had a couple 791 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,639 of you know, misfires, and then I was so exhausted and I did 792 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,920 I did it. I was on several apps, but I did one okay 793 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,719 Cupid, which is kind of a dorky. It's a middle of the road 794 00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:37,800 when it's not a racy and it's not a you know, evangel it's not 795 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,400 you know, farmers only or whatever. And so I didn't do those, 796 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,480 but I was on okay Cupid. So I just I don't know what got 797 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,920 into me other than just kind of exhaustion, and I just told the truth. 798 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:58,880 I used to really just try to try. Like I used to write. 799 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,719 One time, put a Watchman like. I knew a guy who loved 800 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,840 the comic book, the graphic novel The Watchman, and I was like, 801 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,039 he seems cool, and I put a Watchman reference I never read. I 802 00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,639 didn't even know what it was, but I was like, here's something guys 803 00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:16,880 like or like I'm like guys like Star Wars, and I wouldn't the headline 804 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,519 would be like han shot first and like, I don't know what that means 805 00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:24,719 to you. But I was just like trying to signal anything, right. 806 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:31,480 This was my headline for the Man I am now with. My headline was 807 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:38,480 wordy, nerdy and kind of sturdy. Oh that's awesome, is it? 808 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:44,559 I mean it's not like adorable like people's headlines are like I love kissing in 809 00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:49,679 the rain, right, and mine is basically like listen, I'm a bookish 810 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,960 and tired and love dessert anyway, you know, Like it was a very 811 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,400 and now that I'm with someone and have more of a sense of what people 812 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,840 really want, it's like that really is what people want. Like you might 813 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,239 as well just like listen, I love dessert and television. Be with me, 814 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,519 you know, like I a normal people are going to be like yes, 815 00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:15,920 as opposed to what we put on those things of like sailboats and sunsets, 816 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,840 Nobody does that. Nobody, not Jeff Bezos, not anyone like no, 817 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,760 Like people go to work and then they just want to like eat and 818 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,199 watch TV. That is human life. So anyway, but I just was 819 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,800 like, this is it, and and I had put where you list your 820 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:36,239 favorite TV shows and movies. I had also listed podcasts and comedians. It 821 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,119 didn't even ask for that. And so I get a message from this guy 822 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:45,960 and he was like, oh, I also, I really like Mitch Hedberg. 823 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,360 Here's my favorite Mitch Hedburg joke. What's yours? Because I had listed 824 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Mitch Hedberg and I had worked with him, and I just want to say 825 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,119 like love really, what is it? What's okay? Mine is where when 826 00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,679 he goes to get a donut and they go to want a receipt and he 827 00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,239 goes, am I gonna need to prove I forgot? Yeah, like I 828 01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:07,840 don't think we need to bring paperwork into this transaction. Same. That was 829 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,760 the exact same. Yes, that's my favorite. We are so much three 830 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,800 times over already, so funny. I always I think about that joke anytime 831 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,280 I go to buy like or so anytime they say do you want to receive 832 01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:22,320 the same? That's why, Am I gonna have to prove? It's gonna 833 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,519 be a matenne? Am I gonna have to prove it? Yeah? It 834 01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:29,239 was like unless you plan on tackle me me as I walked to the door. 835 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:35,280 And yes, always same. There's also the when when a guy hand 836 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,039 you a flyer, like outside, like to promote a club or whatever. 837 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:40,199 When a guy like you're walking on the street, guy hand you a flyer, 838 01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:45,639 he's basically just going, here, you throw this away and gift cards. 839 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,920 Hey, everybody, we are having so much fun with Laura that we 840 01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:57,159 want to keep this conversation going. So uh, tomorrow our Friday show, 841 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,679 She's going to finish this story, and then she has another story that we 842 01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:04,880 are dying to hear. And yeah, so Laura, thank you so much 843 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,280 for being on our Thursday. Thank you, thank you. But everyone's going 844 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,480 to be tuning in tomorrow, so like literally see I'll see. You're a 845 01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:21,000 parent now, don't have it up, letting go