WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.879 --> 00:01:27.359 All right, as you know, we've done the David Lynch Dune. We 2 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:34.840 did a podcast and we did a fairly in depth analysis back here in this 3 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:42.200 old video you can see that I did about four years ago, and it's 4 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:48.439 called Dune Explained, Full Film Novel Analysis, and that really focused on the 5 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.760 first novel, which, if you don't know, Dune, written by Frank 6 00:01:52.799 --> 00:02:00.400 Herbert, is the biggest selling sci fi series of all time. Particularly Dune 7 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:05.920 is the most popular science fiction single volume book of all time. And I 8 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:08.120 would make an analogy to Lord of the Rings kind of what Lord of the 9 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:15.960 Rings is to fantasy, the Dune series is to science fiction. And I 10 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:21.560 grew up watching the David Lynch Dune and I've always liked it. People hate 11 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.599 on it, but even David Lynch doesn't like. I'm not a fan of 12 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:31.879 doone. I don't want to speak about it, but you gotta love the 13 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:43.159 little four year old psycho version of Aliah hang out, can ye kick? 14 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:49.520 We got ya the rat? I like everything about the David Lynch version. 15 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.280 I don't understand why people hate on it. I listened to somebody's podcast and 16 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:59.240 they said that they watched the movie. It didn't make sense and that's because 17 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:04.360 they were watching the modern truncated versions. You got to watch the three slash 18 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:12.080 four hour special versions of it. I'm coughing up spice, of course. 19 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:19.719 I was drinking my spice coffee this morning and it got me a hacking up. 20 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:30.000 So Dune, as we know is Frank Herbert's late sixties science fiction masterpiece 21 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:34.840 novel. And the reason it's unique is that, Number one, it's a 22 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:38.199 well written book. It's very complicate. Much like Lord of the Rings, 23 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:45.840 Dune will require you to actually pay attention. You'll have to listen to sections 24 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:51.039 more than once, you will have to do decoding work. It requires an 25 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:59.000 esoteric analysis because it's extremely complex plot wise, it deals with multiple philosophical and 26 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:06.719 scientific ideas and religious ideas in a perennialist fashion throughout a series of kind of 27 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.680 Game of Thrones the type stuff. I feel like, I'm not a huge 28 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:16.279 Game of Thrones fan, but the way that Game of Thrones approaches power struggles 29 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:21.680 and courtly intrigue and espionage very reminiscent of what you have in doing, and 30 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:27.040 there's a little bit of that in Lord of the Rings. But Dune is 31 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:33.439 much more of an adult and sophisticated presentation of these types of narratives and archetypes 32 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:36.879 than Lord of Rings says. Now, I'm not knocking Lord of the Rings. 33 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:43.360 I think it's a masterpiece, obviously full of a lot of depth and 34 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.959 symbolism and neoplatonism, as we've talked about in the past, but what we 35 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:51.360 have with Herbert to Dune is very different. It's a very different approach to 36 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.600 religion. We're going to see a lot of influences of Nietzsche, of as 37 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:03.720 you said, perennialism, Sufism, Islam, Far Eastern philosophies like Chi and 38 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:10.000 Zen ideas. I know Chi is an ideas now philosophy, but these are 39 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:15.519 ideas that will recur. Other ideas too that were probably kind of revolutionary for 40 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.879 the time in terms of quantum physics and whatnot. The idea of reality being 41 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:27.160 at a fundamental level energy and energy in different forms, and that seems to 42 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:32.560 be what Herbert is working with as a physics and metaphysics for history. Will 43 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:39.279 also notice that it's kind of a It's a classic heroes tale, sure, 44 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:46.759 but it's also a classic Hubris tale in the Greek sense of being concerned with 45 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:55.959 leadership temptations. What are the primary things that bring down a dynasty? I 46 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:01.040 would say that's the main kind of practical theme of Doom. But even though 47 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.240 we've covered Dune in depth and we'll rehearse a little bit of that, today's 48 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:10.360 discussion is not actually about Dune. I don't want to talk about the villain 49 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:15.839 Neu Dune. You can't say I've been saying for years Dennis villain Aweva, 50 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.519 because that's how it's rode out. You know what I'm saying. When I 51 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:23.000 read it, rode out, that's what's triggered in my mind. And then 52 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.800 all of the know it alls come along. Uh, you don't know knowing 53 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.879 about movies, because you mispronounced his name is Villani Okay, whatever, villain 54 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:39.319 U, Dennis Villainu. Who will be doing not just the sequel to Dune, 55 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.360 which is not the book sequel, it's the second half of part one. 56 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.519 The sequel is Dune Messiah, which I just finished, and it was 57 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:54.000 really profound for me because at the same time as I was reading Dune Messiah, 58 00:06:54.800 --> 00:07:01.000 I was going through Italy and seeing a lot of influence of the state 59 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:05.319 in the church historically speaking, as you know, I did a little bit 60 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:10.639 of analysis of this text, The Christian East and the Rise of the Papacy 61 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:18.360 by Papa Doachus and Mayendorff in the first seventy pages or so, is really 62 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:25.000 in depth analysis of the Gregorian reforms and how the papacy was revolutionized by becoming 63 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:30.240 this sort of autocracy in the eleventh century. And then you had this Germanic 64 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:35.079 control of the papacy for about one hundred years where the popes were basically appointed 65 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:45.120 via nepotism and via kingly control out of Germany. That's in the eleventh century, 66 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:51.240 people like Henry and popes like Leo the ninth and Gregory the seventh, 67 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:56.720 the famous pope of Dictatus pape whereas I've likened him in the past to the 68 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:03.480 first to proclaim himself with the Quiza Tadak, the god Emperor. So there 69 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.360 are a lot of parallels to Dune, because Dune is, as we know, 70 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:16.720 a sophisticated story where Herbert's exploration of religion is not just as either true 71 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:24.360 or false, but viewed from different perspectives by different people in different power structures 72 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.120 and strata of society. For example, the elite in Dune, this would 73 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:33.600 be the chom space Navigating Guild, the people that use the spice as a 74 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:39.000 kind of commodity and fuel to fold space to travel, and they have a 75 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:45.399 kind of monopoly over space travel. The Guild, the Guild navigators with the 76 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.639 big old a JJ face, you know, the fishy of the JJ face. 77 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.279 Guys, if you remember Dune by David Lynch, them boys in the 78 00:08:52.320 --> 00:09:03.039 big tanks. The Emperor is the universe is ruled by the Emperor Pottish Shah 79 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:09.600 Shaddam the Shot pottas Shot Emperor Shaddam the Fourth, the Korino Emperor, Emperor 80 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:15.080 of the known Universe. And what's interesting as you get into the second novel, 81 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:16.679 if you just read the first one, or just watch the first movies 82 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.720 A Part one, you don't really get the full arc of Paul because Paul, 83 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.159 as we'll find out, isn't as much of a hero as you might 84 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.159 think. And this is fascinating because it really distinguishes Paul from a kind of 85 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.720 a christ figure that you think he might be. If you watch the David 86 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.240 Lynch version, as you know, it ends with Paul victorious over the Emperor 87 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.519 and the Harconans, and he sort of gives them an ultimatum. He kills 88 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.399 Sting by, you know, saying he's the Word of God or whatever, 89 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.720 and then Sting splits in half or what. And it's a very memorable scene. 90 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.080 I've always liked that scene of thought, Oh, that's kind of cristological, 91 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.919 isn't it, Because he's calling himself the Word of God. And we 92 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.480 we have in the Fremen, who are the native wild desert folk of the 93 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.240 planet Dune irakus. We have the Fremen with this prophecy as you know, 94 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:15.519 who believe that the Quisat's Haderak, Theleson al Ghib, the voice from the 95 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:22.799 auto worlds, who will come and bring jihad, holy war, to cleanse 96 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:30.879 the universe for righteousness. And this is where we verge out of Christology much 97 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:37.919 more into Islamic theology, because Paul actually becomes this Muhammed type of character who 98 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:46.600 wittingly or unwittingly acquiesces to a timeline wherein there's a universal jihad that ends up 99 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:52.039 killing like sixty billion people or something like that, some crazy space number of 100 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:58.399 sixty billion people across the known universe. But in the first story, in 101 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.960 the first Dune, we just see Paul asked the kind of savior figure the 102 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:07.759 hero archetype who undergoes an initiation, right, and he undergoes an initiation through 103 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:16.039 taking the spice and then through the drinking of the the water of life, 104 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:20.639 which is the vial of the worm. The giant worms on dune, which 105 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:26.720 look like giant you know what's you know what I mean? I'm talking about 106 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.639 giant hot dogs. What were you thinking, you damn perv. Get out 107 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:33.960 of here, you damn perv. Now I'm talking about giant hot dogs on 108 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:39.200 aracus that I have a picture of. I'm trying to see out a picture 109 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.759 of any hot dogs on a ragas when them hot doalds from Oracas. Please 110 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:50.320 no mustard extra buns. I'm not seeing any of the worms. So I 111 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.480 did a whole bit. There we go. Is that a worm? No? 112 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:01.120 Anyway, a little dou right, that's a shrimp. That's a shrimp 113 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.080 off aracus. You got to put them in an in a pie boyd at 114 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.480 at about thirty five hundred degree and you get that. You get that doom 115 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:16.279 shrimp. Forgot what I was talking about, doom shrimp. I'm still sick. 116 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:22.000 Excuse me, dreams are messages from the deep. Anyway, I'm talking 117 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.240 about the different strata of society. That's what it was and how they all 118 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:31.039 view religion in their own way. And I'm not aware of a sci fi 119 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.159 novel that really has that much depth, and I guess that's one of the 120 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:43.759 reasons why people who are probably on the Spergatron scale like this novel this series 121 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:52.120 a lot. The Emperor in his crew, he runs a giant warrior cult 122 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.240 known as the Starter Car. They are a kind of warrior mystics, knights 123 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.080 who will go out in a very pagan, blood thirsty Viking way, and 124 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.399 in Brazil they were influenced by berserkers and they'll just basically slaughter everyone. They're 125 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:11.240 raised on a prison planet called Seleusa Secundas, where people are trained and bred 126 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:18.559 in horrible situations from youth to be Sardocar, the Emperor's shock troops, super 127 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:26.559 soldiers. The origin I'm pretty sure I've heard Lord Voldemar say this, probably 128 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.840 fifteen years ago, but the title for prison planet came from Doune right. 129 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.759 I remember, folks, have you ever read Dune? It tells you everything, 130 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.799 and that's really why we're covering Doune right. Dune does tell us everything 131 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:45.480 you could I could say, everything I know about geopolitics I learned from Doune, 132 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:50.639 because you're going to see every area of societies, particularly traditional societies with 133 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:56.840 nobility, aristocracy, bloodlines and all of that. That's fundamental to the first 134 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:05.360 story one. And not only that, the occult plays a key role in 135 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.679 it. And this is where I'm very confident in that with the character of 136 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:15.200 Herbert, he had to have been influenced by quite a bit of nineteen sixties 137 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:20.240 perennialism, esotericism and ocultism. We know, for example, that the spice 138 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:28.639 milange, the resource that is both a fuel to make you travel through space 139 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.000 a quick way in a quick way, folding space. It's not only a 140 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:39.159 fuel, it's also a powerful hallucinogen that expands consciousness and extends life, and 141 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.679 it gives you the blue within blue eyes. So yes, I have been 142 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:52.919 taking my spice, as you can see. So for as we said, 143 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.320 the different strata of society, not only do they want to control religion, 144 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.399 and that's the witch cult, and there's a group of which is known as 145 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:03.440 the Beni Jesra's Sisterhood. They're a very powerful order, which is who have 146 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:09.120 mastered these different techniques such as telepathy and what they call the Weirding way, 147 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:15.600 which is this will to power where you speak something and you overpower someone else, 148 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.559 or you speak a killing word and your word, if is amplified of 149 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.480 the right frequency, can break bones, break stones, and so forth. 150 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.159 So kind of a tesla notion of frequencies that can split glass or split ass. 151 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.840 You know what I'm saying. If you've got to just take somebody out, 152 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:37.919 you just use that Weirding way. And I like the way they did 153 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.840 that in the David Lynchtein that was enjoyable. We don't get a lot of 154 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:50.679 that in the new version. But regardless, we do have this different strata 155 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.720 of society. And in regard to the witch cult, the Beni jesra At 156 00:15:54.799 --> 00:16:00.600 Sisterhood, they have seeded throughout the universe through their what they call the missionary 157 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:07.039 of Protectiva, the protective Missionaries. They have seeded throughout the generations, their 158 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:12.320 own religious mythology. And they've done that because they want to control the universe's 159 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:19.080 super being, the Quizats Hayderak when they produce him, and they are producing 160 00:16:19.159 --> 00:16:27.480 him through generations and generations of intermarriage and genetic manipulation. So they want to 161 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:33.960 marry the people to the right people to produce better, fitter, more elite 162 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.799 offspring. And this, of course is the attitude that we have of a 163 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.679 lot of the elite and history, particularly as you get into the Victorian period 164 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:45.399 with the rise of Malthusianism and eugenics and so forth, the idea being that 165 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:52.240 if we can interbreed and intermarry more and more selectively, we can produce, 166 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:59.080 you know, basically these dexter level super psycho beings, and we get quite 167 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:03.240 a bit of that in Dune, So I think Herbert was very aware of 168 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.119 that's the elite modus operana. That is how the elite operating in terms of 169 00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:17.039 their mystical bloodline philosophy that they have. And in the case of Dune, 170 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:22.519 as you know, this plan of the coven of the Sisterhood is interrupted because 171 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:29.160 Jessica, the mother of Paula Tredes, the protagonist, she decides to go 172 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.759 ahead and have a male child, and she was instructed to put the male 173 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:37.200 children to death until they had produced the university super being, whom they thought 174 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.759 would be presumably a girl. Thus the most powerful being would be under the 175 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:47.960 control of the witches of the ben and Jesuit's sisterhood and then they could by 176 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:53.720 proxy be the power behind the throne. When they produced the universe's girl boss, 177 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.480 the Super Slay Queen. We didn't get that though. Get the male 178 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:07.920 offspring who's not supposed to exist, and Jessica decides, in a very Moses 179 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:11.640 type situation not to put into death, so she protects the child saves him. 180 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:15.720 There's a lot of Moses imagery as well. Moses goes into the desert, 181 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.920 Paul ends up with his mom going off into the desert into the wilderness, 182 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:23.640 so we see a lot of Biblical imagery that does pop up. And 183 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:30.400 if you don't know, the future religion of Doune is a syncretized version of 184 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:37.759 Islam and Catholicism as well as other influences like Stoicism and Zen. So they 185 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:42.039 actually call it the Orange Catholic Bible, which is this collection of kind of 186 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:47.599 random mystical texts, some from the Bible, some from Islam and the Quran, 187 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.519 which has produced this future religion. Again, we're in the year ten 188 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:56.319 one ninety one, which is twenty thousand years into the future from where we 189 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:03.640 are today, so they have some other or you know, space nerdy way 190 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.759 to date things. So it's not the year twenty one one, it's ten, 191 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.480 which is for some reason ten thousand year, twenty thousand years in the 192 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.119 future. Well, one thing that's fascinating, as we said, aside from 193 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.920 the geopolitical stuff and the attempt to control the resources, and it's all about 194 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.799 that, right, which is controlling the spice, because whoever controls the spice 195 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:27.400 and utilizes it effectively will be the most powerful force in the universe. And 196 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:37.640 at this time it is the emperor who runs things through his fealty by the 197 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:44.759 various noble houses called the lands rod and the noble houses submit to the emperor, 198 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:48.079 but they also have a power to kind of stand against the emperor if 199 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.880 all of them, for example, felt that the Emperor was doing something wrong. 200 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:57.319 So it's the possibility is always there of lesser nobility right standing up against 201 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:06.680 even the emperor of the known universe. Paul is this figure who, as 202 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:08.559 we said, is the archetype. He's the hero we think in the first 203 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:12.720 novel, he suffers from a lot of defects and flaws in doing Messiah, 204 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:18.119 which shows a significant departure from him being any kind of christ like figure. 205 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.960 He's very christ like in certain ways in Dune. But then we get a 206 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:33.240 very fallen, machiavellian uber Minsch type of figure in doing Messiah, and he 207 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:37.960 doesn't completely become a villain, but he has villainous traits, but he ends 208 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.200 up ultimately being good. So I won't spoil that or explain how he ends 209 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:48.799 up being good. But but Paul, as we know, has been born 210 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:53.000 out of the plan of the Witches, so he's he's thrown up a middle 211 00:20:53.000 --> 00:21:02.039 finger to the Vishes from the beginning them wish bishes and from an early day, 212 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:07.400 Paul has dreams and visions. Right, He's this mystical figure who who 213 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:08.880 will kind of like the starter car. He's not a starter car, but 214 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:15.240 he will be a kind of mystical warrior poet figure. And he sees visions. 215 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.359 He sees the future. He sees himself with his future girlfriend Chauni, 216 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:25.079 you know, from the tribe of the Fremen. He sees himself in different 217 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:30.119 timelines based on what he chooses as he gets more and more exposed to the 218 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:37.279 spice. So the Spice transforms Paul into a I guess we could say kind 219 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.839 of like a Greek god in a way. It's much more pagan than any 220 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.079 notion of a biblical god. He's not uncreated. It's more of an adoptionist 221 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:56.319 or nestorian view right where he gradually discovers his own godhood. But for Herbert, 222 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.480 the theology of this universe and un presumably of his own philosophy and worldview, 223 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:06.480 it's not stable. He's more of a process philosophy proponent. And so 224 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:10.720 that's why he sees all the religions really just kind of blending together and expressing 225 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:15.279 some higher inexpressible truth. And this is where we get the idea of it 226 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:19.240 being perennials, or what's where I get it right, the philosophia parenthis Now, 227 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:25.920 perennialism existed prior to the nineteen sixties. It existed, you could argue 228 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.839 in various ways, going back to people like Marsilio Ficino or Picodilla Mirandola in 229 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:37.880 the Renaissance period because of its fixation on neoplatonism and so in a just a 230 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:44.000 very general sense, perennial philosophy is referred to as the perennial wisdom perspective in 231 00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:48.480 philosophy and spiritualogy that views religious traditions as sharing some higher single metaphysical truth or 232 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.480 origin. Right, So like the religions are like the skeleton of a higher 233 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.799 source. They're the frontist piece, and they're all kind of expressing the same 234 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.759 ideas in the way that we know what that high truth is is through some 235 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:07.440 sort of esoteric metaphysical knowledge. So you'll notice in a lot of the perennialists 236 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:11.519 the focus on metaphysics, and by perennialists, it's kind of it's not that 237 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:17.319 easy to really define. Some people might say neoplatonists are perennialists. Some people 238 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:21.680 might critique that. Some people might say, you know, people like Reneganon 239 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:26.240 or Friedolf Schwan, those are really the sort of archetypal perennial philosophy guys of 240 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:36.960 the twentieth century. And the idea originates in the Renaissance, where people say, 241 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.559 well, maybe there's you know, truth in all religions, and so 242 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:42.279 there's truth in all religions, and there must be some higher true religion. 243 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.440 And this, I think is why you see people like Huxley, who many 244 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.559 people don't think Huxley was really a Prentalist, but he did write a book 245 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.640 called The Primial Philosophy, which was his eventual acceptance of Vedanta right, he 246 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:02.599 did accept Adveta Vendanta. And so you'll find that most of the time that 247 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.480 the perennialists, not always most of the time that are inspired by Neoplatonism, 248 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:14.720 Sufism, mystical Islam, and things like Vedanta and esoteric aspects of Hindu philosophy. 249 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:22.200 But there's overlap with a lot of other traditions, Elusinian mysteries, people 250 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:30.480 like Hermestris Magistus. There's a lot of different overlaps in areas where people can 251 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.200 say it's perennial philosophy. But this is why we can see, for example, 252 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.599 elements of traditionalism or the Traditionalist school and perennialism in Herbert, even though 253 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.839 Herbert doesn't have anything to do with Vedanta. For whatever reason, there's no 254 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:55.079 I'm not aware of any Hindu imagery. It's typically Christianity in Islam and various 255 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:00.440 forms of Far Eastern mysticism like zen that pop up, although at times we 256 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.200 do have mention of future apologists. Ten thousand years from now. He become 257 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:11.599 famous as a schism of Christianity known as Stoic Christianity. So he envisioned this 258 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:17.759 future universe where there was all kinds of schisms and heresies, and it kind 259 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.599 of reminds me of who's that Mormon dude, the guy that wrote Enders Game? 260 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.839 Right, if you remember Enders Game, it's like there's a planet of 261 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.680 Mormons, there's a planet of Catholics. It's kind of like that. That 262 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:34.440 idea is probably borrowed from what you see in Dune, where you have basically 263 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:42.400 different schisms and heresies and religions in space, religions in splays and in the 264 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:47.839 Dune series, we're not I mean, there's six of these and they're really 265 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.720 complex. So we're just talking about the first two. We get off into 266 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.559 all kinds of crazy sex and spin offs. In the later installments, we'll 267 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:59.680 get another religion called the Church of Madib, but we're going to get Madiba's 268 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.000 poul A Treatees by the way. We'll get in another religion called the Elixir 269 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:08.519 of Life religion, the Golden the Golden Way or something, the Golden Chalice 270 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.839 or something like that. But that's all for the later installments when we get 271 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:21.079 into the era of Poll's Children, Children of Doom. But so that's the 272 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:27.839 background from a traditionalist perspective, and in my view, somebody was saying in 273 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.279 one of their analyzes, oh, it's largely Sunni. There are mentions of 274 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:40.559 Sunni type ideas, I guess with Jahad and whatnot. But the tendency amongst 275 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:45.200 the freemen is full of a lot of paganism. And the drug element, 276 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.799 to me suggests a very obvious Sufi connection, because there are elements of Sufism, 277 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:56.799 especially in Afghanistan, where they still have a place for imbibing, you 278 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:03.920 know, pretty hardcore drugs, going on trips and getting wisdom from you know, 279 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:07.759 smoking opium. I mean, Afghanistan is a big opium region, and 280 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.839 I think that although the spice is not a one to one with any specific 281 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:17.200 thing, we know that it's based in part on LSD and shrooms according to 282 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:22.559 Herbert. But I mean the control of drugs as a resource is also I 283 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:27.079 think pretty obvious in the story. And that's why linking it to Sufism in 284 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:33.720 Afghanistan is interesting because there you have the mystical use at times it's not widespread, 285 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:40.759 but at times of opium. And so let's go back to my original 286 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:47.759 analysis where I talked about the novel's usage of Islam mysticism. Is it brings 287 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:52.920 to mind ancient Afghani Sufism, and I'll explain why because it reminded me of 288 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:57.319 the Gould and Fitzgerald book that's really good called Invisible History, which details the 289 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:03.960 importance of Afghanistan's role in the Middle East and geopolitical power moves of the last 290 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.519 few centuries. And it's not just because of the drug tare. There's also 291 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.079 a mystical significance that a lot of people don't know about. And I think 292 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.000 this plays into Herbert's novel because there's a lot of what we could say is 293 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:19.759 kind of gnostic and aluminous tendencies in Herbert's novel. I mean, Paul's pathway 294 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:30.240 to becoming a demi god is principally through the hallucinogenic ritual initiation experiences that he 295 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.839 has with the Spice, which again is basically LSD. So we're we're not 296 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:44.799 just in some sort of pure rationalist or bookish Islam. We are in a 297 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:53.960 pagan ish islam Ish catholicism Ish religion where you can attain this sort of status 298 00:28:55.799 --> 00:29:03.400 through direct drug experience, through mystical drug initiation, and that's exactly what happens 299 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:08.319 with Paul. In fact, there's a pretty vivid, well described scene in 300 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.799 the first novel when Paul really goes through the initiation. That's a pretty accurate 301 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:19.720 description of a hardcore like a bad trip, And if you read it, 302 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.240 you'll know what I mean, right, Because I mean, I don't want 303 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.920 to I'm not trying to make it too close to an analogy, because Paul 304 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:33.680 actually experiences real manifestations of power, like transcending space and time, seeing different 305 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:38.279 timelines, seeing visions of the future, which I suppose is possible but not 306 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.119 typical on an LSD trip, right, So I don't want to give too 307 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.440 much of it. I'm not saying that, Oh, everybody who trips as 308 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.319 goes see the future and you can choose between fifty different timelines. Look, 309 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.119 doctor Strange. It is kind of like doctor Strange right in the book, 310 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:57.400 Like Paul's experience is similar to that. But I think a lot of people 311 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:03.240 probably have read this or these stories and they've missed the predictive programming illuminous elements 312 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:07.160 in the story. To me, it was pretty obvious. And Gould and 313 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.000 Fistriald make this connection not about Doom but about Afghanistan when they say Afghanistan is 314 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:18.160 the ancient home of Zorastra and the mystical Evesta, as well as Gondahara. 315 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:25.920 This region is talking about Gandhara, Buddhism and the Illuminati, Rashania cult, 316 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.519 the order of the Baktashi Dervishes. This is the nineteenth century Afghanistan and its 317 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:37.839 surroundings provided then a mystical underpinning to what is today dryly regarded as mere geopolitics. 318 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.039 This is their book. With every advance of of the industrial area, 319 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.359 the quest for meaning a spiritual enlightenment amongst Western intellectuals grew into a kind of 320 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.680 hypnotism. Spiritualism and occultism found great popularity in European parlor society. With the 321 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.519 expansion of Empire, interwoven with the expectations of end time prophecies about to come 322 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:02.480 do, a spiritual movement linking bil local prophecy to Britain began to grow. 323 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.359 This is getting into the British Israelite heresy and the affascination with the British Empire 324 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:12.200 to Afghanistan, which was not just about you know, drugs and British East 325 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.759 India company control. That was a big part of it, but there's also 326 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:22.200 a mythical quasi religious you could say motivation, spiritual quest. You could say 327 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.400 God about religious zeal and a great deal imagination. The British Israel movement emerged 328 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.279 from the shadows in seventeen ninety four of the publication of Richard Brothers's book I 329 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.599 Revealed Knowledge of the Prophecies of the Times. Then Sharon Turner's eighteen twenty seven 330 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:41.359 book on the Asiatic Origins of Anglo Saxons that sought to establish Greater Persia as 331 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:48.640 the ancestral home and progenitors of our Anglo Saxon ancestors. Some of the movement 332 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:53.880 proclaimed the British Army officer Sir Henry Rawlins in successful eighteen thirty five translation The 333 00:31:53.920 --> 00:32:00.119 Persian Baby's Student Inscription as a positive link between Britain, and so forth we 334 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.319 get Reverend John Wilson's are Israelite origin. This is trying to argue that the 335 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:12.519 lost tribes of Israel somehow connect to this region and somehow are the forefathers of 336 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:19.119 the British people. This is a longstanding goofy kind of heresy that pops up 337 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:25.200 every now and then in so called Christian circles. For example, there was 338 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.400 a cult that is lesser known today called the Worldwide Church of God. It 339 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.359 was headed up by a guy named Garner Ted Armstrong, and they were an 340 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:42.519 anti Trinitarian group who were all about this British Israelite mythology and for whatever reason 341 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:46.119 they felt like this made them special or something. According to Robert Drivers in 342 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.680 his book Devil's Game, many British intellectuals and not a few imperialists were seized 343 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.079 with a desire to find a sort of holy grail, a unified field theory 344 00:32:53.119 --> 00:33:00.440 of religious belief. That's where we get the perennialist connection again to the ideas 345 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:07.119 that I think undergird doom, because Britain is obsessed with the kind of perennialism 346 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.119 and partialism is not exactly the same as freemasonry. You might think, well, 347 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.440 sounds like freemasonry, and it just all the religions are basically the same. 348 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.960 No, no, it's not exactly that. Masonry is a little more 349 00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.119 on the atheistic side. Masonry is a little more on the anti metaphysics side. 350 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.920 But what you have with perennialists is that the essence of religion and philosophy 351 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:35.960 is metaphysics, and so it's a more high brow, sophisticated approach to trying 352 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:40.839 to figure out what the high true religion is, and it would disagree with 353 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.640 a lot of the approaches of say Albert Pike in his Morals and Dogma. 354 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.720 So, as you know, we have, as we said, the Fremen 355 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.200 the desert people. This to me is very reminiscent of groups in the Middle 356 00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.559 East, such as the Sufi's. It could be any kind of must group 357 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:05.839 h you know, fighting the Jahad to establish the pure worship of Allah or 358 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:12.079 whatever. All of that, as we know, functions to influence the the 359 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:17.079 novel. And I noted that readers have shown a significant secret about real politics, 360 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:22.840 and this there's not evident in similar novels. The attempt to manipulate bloodlines 361 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.679 by the elite to produce a genetic superior ruling class. That's that's what the 362 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.280 first book is all about. In Herbert's vision, of manipulation is done to 363 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.360 control the Quisat's hotterac by female witch coven. As we said, the witch 364 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.679 Bush is trying to kind of trying to masculineate me, trying to keep me 365 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.960 down. But look, I can see where you can't see. That's what 366 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.039 he tells the witch. If you remember right, the golm Jabbar I looked 367 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.280 into that place that you cannot look. Thus, if the super being could 368 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.239 be controlled, the Sisterhood could wield untold power over the universe through their adept 369 00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.400 skills at sorcery and word magic, which is really just a kind of mind 370 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:06.639 control. They are training all matter of religious espionage skills. So espionage is 371 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:09.239 a big part of the story, especially Part two. Part two is much 372 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:15.159 more of a courtly intrigued power game than the first novel. The first novel 373 00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:21.000 is a lot more of an adventure. It's a very sophisticated philosophical adventure, 374 00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:28.840 but the second one is a lot more about courtly intrigue. But the Sisterhood 375 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.599 here kind of reminiscent, kind of analogous to the way we think of like 376 00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:37.599 CIA handlers, Right, that's kind of the function they serve in the novel 377 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:44.079 is to operate in that way, and they're arranged hierarchically under the chief Reverend 378 00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:49.440 Mother gaias Mohem Gaya Mother Earth. Right, So feminine symbology here. And 379 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:54.079 this is interesting because the novel, I would argue, is it has consistent 380 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:59.679 strands of anti feminism, so probably out of the time and I'm just assuming 381 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:02.440 here read a whole lot about Frank Kerbert himself, but he definitely had to 382 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:09.159 be been involved to some degree in the LSD Counterculture sixty scene of his time, 383 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:15.119 just because of so much, so much of that being in the novel, 384 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.440 right, So, I feel like he did have some knowledge of the 385 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.760 way the world really works, you know, how the CIA operates, how 386 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:30.880 you know the world is run on the basis of geopolitical elites controlling resources and 387 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:36.280 engaging in things like economic warfare. Because we'll see Paul Will engage in a 388 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:43.880 very sophisticated form of sabotage. In fact, when Paul's family is attacked in 389 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.320 the first one and he basically loses all the power that he had and he 390 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:53.239 flees to the Fremen. His plan of attack against the traders, the Harconins 391 00:36:53.360 --> 00:37:00.840 and the Emperor is to cut off spice production from a Racus, and so 392 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:06.119 he engages in a series of a few years of warfare on Dune which cuts 393 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:10.800 off all spice production, brings it to a complete halt. Now all the 394 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.840 universe's eyes are on Dune and Paul, and then we get this kind of 395 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:24.400 overthrowing of the Emperor and the Harconins and Paul becomes a new emperor where he's 396 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:30.199 essentially well, basically, the first one ends with that, right if you 397 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.960 remember in the David Lynch movie and I don't have my novel the first novel 398 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.960 with me. I read it like ten years ago, but I'm pretty sure 399 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:46.000 that's how it ends, with Paul basically establishing the new World Empire or galactic 400 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.639 empire, you know what I mean. Other interesting elements is that we are 401 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:58.480 shown the pedo elements of the Harconins. The Harconins are not just a brutal 402 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:06.719 kind of you know, degenerate crew. They are enmeshed in genetic experimentation. 403 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:13.320 They like to create monstrosities and hybrids. They like to engage in all manner 404 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:19.440 of degenerate practice, including pedo stuff. And we get a very interesting contrast 405 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:27.280 when the Atreades' family takes over Dune from the Harconins and the local tribes people. 406 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:32.039 The Fremen are astounded at how charitable the Attretees are compared to the Harconins, 407 00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.199 and so we're definitely giving the impression that the Atreadees are a righteous family 408 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:44.119 and house. The Harconins are completely degenerate disgusting. And we even see this 409 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.199 in the imagery of the character of the Baron himself, right, I mean, 410 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:52.119 the Baron is full of pus and sores and he's basically he's basically leaking 411 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.760 and dripping everywhere, you know what I mean. He's just making a damn 412 00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:01.280 mess, like a like he had a perm a Jerry curl, just dripping 413 00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.599 everywhere, but it's coming out of his face. And I like the way 414 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.239 that David Lynch version did that. I mean, he's flying around, he's 415 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:12.880 getting oil dripped all over him. It's absolutely disgusting, right, So they 416 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.480 did a good job making him discussing. Also, as a result of this 417 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:24.920 collapse, Paul believes that he will engineer a plan to stop the Emperor and 418 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:30.960 the Baron's machinations by and not just bringing the spice production to a halt, 419 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:37.000 but also marrying the Emperor's daughter, Princess Irline. And she's the floating head 420 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.679 at the beginning of the David lynchwin, right, she's the narrator in the 421 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:46.400 David Lynch version. We haven't seen her yet in the new Dennis vu New 422 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:52.039 version, because that will be Florence Pugh, the chick from midsommer. She's 423 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.400 going to be Princess Eralin and the Emperor is going to be Wow, Christopher 424 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:06.719 Walking, ooh wow, oh ah. The Emperor put this watch in his 425 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:14.360 ass that Christopher Walking as the emperor, which is an odd choice. I 426 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.920 don't remember the actor that David Lynch cast, but I thought he was actually 427 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:25.400 a really good emperor, So interesting choice staff Christopher Walkin. Who It's not 428 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.599 that Christmer Walkin is a bad actor anything. It's just that he to me 429 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:35.239 seems to sort of a goofy character, so to have him as the I 430 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:39.400 was looking to see if I had an picture of the emperor in the old 431 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:51.719 one. Put those a polish from before me. My brother comes for you, 432 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.599 Emperor. I don't know. I can't find an emperor picture. I 433 00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.480 can pull it up, but you know what I mean? That do as 434 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.039 well cast. That's what I think of that I just don't think of I 435 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.679 don't know Christopher Walking. And I was watching somebody's video about this, and 436 00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.599 they made a funny point about how remember in the Fat Boy Slim video, 437 00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:15.960 how it talks about you won't something the worm. If you walk without rhythm, 438 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:21.639 you won't attract the worm, right, that's from Dune. That's the 439 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.400 sand dance that you have to do because the vibrations attract the worms on the 440 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.000 planet of Doune, and the worms come get you like Kevin Bacon and tremors. 441 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:35.280 Right, Well, you do the dance to not attract the worm. 442 00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:42.679 That's what's clipped in the Fat Boy Slim video where Christopher Walking is dancing and 443 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.199 it's just weird. Then that Christopher Walking will be playing the emperor in Dune. 444 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.920 You know I'm talking about. Did y'all not know this? Nobody knew 445 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.679 what that clip was. If you walk without rhythm, it won't attract the 446 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:05.199 worm. This one right where he's Christopher Walking dances and flies across the room. 447 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.719 Remember that I'm not gonna play because it'll ding everything, but you can 448 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.039 watch the video. I'll try to remember to put these video links below right. 449 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:19.000 So here at Christopher Walking is dancing everywhere, walk without rhythm, it 450 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.280 won't attract the worm, and then he flies across the mall or the hotel, 451 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:36.000 whatever it is. Remember when Christopher Walking was dancing the cha chaw and 452 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:43.719 with the aliens playing Whitley Streeper. That's one of the stupidest scenes I've ever 453 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:58.920 seen, and the alien dancing community. Ooh a chot chat with aliens. 454 00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:07.559 Wow. Wow. And you're saying, why is Christopher Walking dancing the cha 455 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:20.840 chaw with aliens? Because Whitley Striebert in his book claims that he danced the 456 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:29.840 cha chaw with aliens on a spaceship. So definitely happened. Definitely, definitely 457 00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.960 something that definitely happened. It's not made of it. Definitely happened, you 458 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:46.280 understand, I hope so anyway, but you hadn't end up box anyway? 459 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.719 Where was that? Oh? Next up? Other elements that make this novel 460 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:59.079 tremendously prescient again pretty much off the charts predicted programming, right, I mean, 461 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.000 not just predictive programming in this sense of like, oh you got some 462 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.960 mk ultra. By the way, I forgot to mention, the Imperial power 463 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:14.880 has the ability to condition genetically conditioned and mentally conditioned people to be assassins or 464 00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:22.239 to be incapable of violence. So doctor Yui, who has the dot on 465 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:27.599 his third eye, has the imperial conditioning, supposedly so that he could not 466 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:32.960 harm any of the noble houses. So anybody that serves the noble houses has 467 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.360 the imperial conditioning so that they can't be traitors to the Imperial House, because 468 00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.679 of course people would want to assassinate the nobility all the time, and in 469 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.800 fact there's an attempt, as you know, to assassinate both Paul and his 470 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:51.639 father. The attack on Paul's father, Dukelido, is successful, the attempt 471 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:58.519 to assassinate Paul with the Hunter Seeker is not successful. Paul, as we 472 00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.960 said, is the one right, so he's the prophesied one to come who 473 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:07.119 will bring the Jihad. All of that is kind of classic, you know, 474 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.320 hero mythology, Joseph Campbell's stuff, but it's also religious in the sense 475 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.559 that, as I said, you think that he's a christ like figuring in 476 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.039 the first one, but he's much more of a flawed Greek hero in the 477 00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:24.159 second one. And we'll look at some of what his son explains in the 478 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:31.079 introductory essay about what his father meant by that by the political critiques in doing 479 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:37.079 Messiah. But I wanted to note that Herbert had an intense interest in ecology, 480 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.320 and that's why we actually see geoengineering playing a key role in the novel. 481 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.800 So stuff that you would think is even in our day considered you know, 482 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:50.800 conspiracy topic, it doesn't exist. Not only does it exist, it 483 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:55.039 was actually in fiction back in the mid to late sixties. And so I 484 00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:04.880 cited some papers and whatnot talking about elf manipulation of the ionosphere and whatnot, 485 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.280 and I argued that, you know, Herbert foresaw what would be coming in 486 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.239 the future and actually encoded in his science fiction. So I would I would 487 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:19.199 liken him in this predictive sense to somebody like PK. D Right, he's 488 00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.880 a lot like Philip K. Dick, But there's he's very different from Philip 489 00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.239 K. Dick because Philip K. Dick comes off as this sort of basically 490 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.360 schizophrenic type of character, right, I mean, I mean, I'm not 491 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.000 dissing PK. D I think he's a cool writer, and I think he 492 00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.440 was writing stuff because he was in the circles of people in Silicon Valley and 493 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:44.199 he did genuinely kind of foresee the dangers that could be had through the implementation 494 00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.039 of all this Silicon Valley control which are now living under. By the way, 495 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:52.000 Definitely, PK. D's novels are very precient, full of predicted programming, 496 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:59.360 but Herbert's novels are just they're very different. They're all interconnected. It's 497 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:07.039 it's all big, giant world or universe like Tolkien, and that's that's not 498 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.079 what you get with PK. D. Right, You get these kind of 499 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.400 just different stories about wild ideas, and many of those wild ideas, you 500 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.360 know, appear to be coming to fruition. But the same thing with Herbert's 501 00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.719 mega universe, a lot of these elements are coming to fruition as well. 502 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.280 So I didn't want to touch on a couple more things in regard to part 503 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:34.119 one. It's not just about the you know, predictions of things millennia from 504 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:38.239 now. It's actually about how the world functions now, the different strata of 505 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:44.360 occultists, espionage, geopolitics, the police, the emperor, the state, 506 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.440 economics with the trading guild, the control of the resources, economic warfare. 507 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:57.199 By bringing resources to a halt, siege. Right when Paul brings spice production 508 00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.320 to a halt, all eyes are on Aracus and all eyes are on and 509 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:06.239 so by doing this, he then engages with his followers to become this religious 510 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:13.920 warrior figure and then begins what kicks off will be the universal Jahad. The 511 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.199 novel's focused on ecology is also in a way, we're buke to scientism, 512 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:25.199 which presumably desires to rape nature and to be anti human. And you might 513 00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:29.079 think, well, science fiction, right, this is always going to be 514 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.320 anti human. Now, actually, there is a tendency in Dune, at 515 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:39.280 least so far in the first two that is pro human. There's a big 516 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.599 story that we don't It might be in one of the other stories. You 517 00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:45.840 might have a backstory by somebody else, or by his son. I think 518 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:53.840 Frank's son has also written addendums. I don't usually find the suns like I'm 519 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:59.480 not reading Christopher Tolkien that much or you know what I mean. So I'm 520 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:04.039 not knocking the guy, just just haven't gotten into it. But when it 521 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:10.719 comes to this, this element, this is fascinating because I just I just 522 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:17.840 totally lost my place. What was I talking about? The novels focus on 523 00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:22.920 ecology. Yeah, and oh that the anti natalism. You might think that 524 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.719 it would be anti natalists. A lot of science fiction it's like, oh, 525 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.599 the future is a utopia because we've created perfect population control and AI runs 526 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.840 everything. No, no, this is uniquely anti AI. Did you know 527 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:44.199 the Dune universe at some point in previous history when man created Ai, AI 528 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.440 enslaved man, and there ended up being a few centuries of warfare where men 529 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:55.159 had to overthrow AI, and then AI is banned throughout the universe. However, 530 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.679 even though it's banned after what's called the Butlery and Johann, this figure 531 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:07.960 named Butler had to lead a jihad against AI and it was eventually overthrown. 532 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:13.239 And so now artificial intelligence is banned. Now not all tech is banned, 533 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.679 just AI. You can't make machines in the image of man, and in 534 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:23.239 their Orange Catholic Bible they introduce a new eleventh commandment that thou shalt not make 535 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:30.039 a machine in the image of man. So that's an interesting avenue where you 536 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.000 know, a lot of sci fi novels don't go. They usually prop up 537 00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:38.920 AI as this you know, quasi savior type of device, or this salvafic 538 00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:44.199 thing, or this godlike thing that's going to give us immortality or whatever. 539 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:50.400 But even though it's outlawed in Dune Messiah in the sequel, we actually have 540 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.559 people beginning to go against that, and although they're not creating exactly AI, 541 00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.840 they are beginning to create what they call a gola, which is a kind 542 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.719 of like a clone. It's not exactly a clone but it's basically a version 543 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:10.039 of a clone, where you take the dead body of someone and you can 544 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:17.559 revive it with certain techniques and certain technologies closely akin to cloning, the difference 545 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:22.039 being, of course, that the revived body is not a copy. It's 546 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:27.760 the actual body, but it doesn't actually have the genetic memories or the memories 547 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.280 of the previous person. So it's kind of like a blank slate tabula rossa 548 00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:37.119 doe boy over there, So you got a dough boy, a blank dough 549 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:43.039 boy over there. But in Dune Messiah, the character of Duncan Idaho, 550 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.760 one of the close friends of Paul who ends up killed. They create a 551 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:52.480 gola of him, this sort of clone to be a source of comfort for 552 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:57.159 Paul because he's lost one of his best friends. But this ends up being 553 00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:01.400 a deception because the purpose of creating this gola is also to mind control him, 554 00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:06.559 to program him at a certain point, at a trigger point, he's 555 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:13.159 triggered to then assassinate Paul and get rid of the Treats bloodline. That plot 556 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:17.679 fails spoiler alert, but we'll talk about that when we get into doing Messiah. 557 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.360 Other elements that I thought were an influence here, as we said, 558 00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.039 not just the perennial stuff, but there's also I think a kabbalistic element, 559 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:36.239 because the weirding way is not just you know, saying something that's a magic 560 00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:42.840 spell. It's actually finding the right words and the right vibrations that either give 561 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.920 life or can kill. And so we think about you know, proverbs, 562 00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:50.559 the power of life and death is in the tongue, Solomon says. And 563 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:54.480 then you get, in the kind of outlandish superstitions of medieval cabbala, the 564 00:52:54.599 --> 00:53:01.639 idea that the individual magician or megas can figure out these right vibrations and words 565 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.480 or manipulations of symbols and then either create or destroy life. And so you 566 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.119 get the idea of the Gollumn. The Gollum is this figure who is a 567 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:15.920 kind of husk a mud man, right, a husk man who you can 568 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:19.880 cause to go and do your will. Well. Not only does that come 569 00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.440 up with the ideas of the weirding way and speaking a word that can either 570 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:28.400 kill or bring life. I think that's really what the Gola is, right. 571 00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.920 The Golaw is not exactly a clone, it's more of a go limb. 572 00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.760 So I think Gola is probably derived from go Limb. And a lot 573 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.320 of the terms and a lot of the phraseology that's very unique to Doune, 574 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:43.280 right, like the ben a tale lax, the beni Jeserit's sisterhood, the 575 00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:50.039 lison al gaib Right, These terms are you can see kind of quasi Arabic 576 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:54.599 terminology and quasi you know, Islamic in its significance. They even call Paul 577 00:53:54.679 --> 00:54:07.440 the Mahdi, which is Messiah. So going back to my notes, I 578 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:09.920 think I've covered a lot of this space travel you have. We covered the 579 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:21.400 missionary Tiva. It's also a story that appeals to sort of esoteric minded people 580 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:24.639 as well. We know Jo Rowski, right. For example, jo Rowski 581 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:31.719 was famously making his Dune version of Dune, which was this really wild, 582 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:36.960 outlandish thing where Orson Wells said he would do it, but he wanted to 583 00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:42.239 be paid in food, and then Salvador Dali was going to be the emperor 584 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:44.400 and he said, I'll do it, but you have to pay me one 585 00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:49.000 hundred thousand dollars a day and just all this crazy, wild, outlandish stuff, 586 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.159 and so it never ended up getting made. But there's a famous documentary 587 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:59.000 about Jo Rowski's Dune, and we've covered joa Rowski before. Because jo Rowski 588 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:05.360 is definitely occult filmmaker, probably one of the pre eminent ones. I do 589 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:13.320 not recommend people watch Holy Mountain. And it does have some interesting alchemical and 590 00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:20.039 esoteric elements, and we've covered it both with Burmus and with Jamie and I 591 00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:24.719 covering it here, So if you are interested in the Holy Mountain breakdown, 592 00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:30.679 it's there. There's other films that Jodarowski do that are really ocultic, like 593 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:39.880 al Topo and whatnot. But let's see there's any other elements that I didn't 594 00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:49.719 cover in the first one before we get to that's not where's my essay? 595 00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:55.000 Before we get to part two? Oh, I did want to talk about 596 00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.719 the crossing of the Abyss. There's this sort of when Paul undergoes the hulud 597 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.400 or they call Old Father Eternity. The worms are for the freemen an emblem 598 00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.079 of God, right, they're the sort of godlike figure. They also are 599 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:12.039 an emblem of Satan, which I think kind of speaks to a weird sort 600 00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:17.119 of dualism in their religion. But when Paul moydeb comes to power, you 601 00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:22.119 get the idea that natural hierarchies are being restored because he's overthrown the attempt of 602 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:29.800 the witch coven of the feminine to be dominant, and you get this patriarchal 603 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:34.840 order that's restored. Paul and the Free Men represent a masculine order being put 604 00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:40.440 back into power. And under this we get the life blossoming on the desert 605 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:46.559 planet Dune. So the desert planet comes to life and becomes terraformed and emerges 606 00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.400 from this wasteland, kind of like what we read in Isaiah right, that 607 00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:52.960 the streams and the desert I think in the Psalms, and then the deserts 608 00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:59.400 will turn into luscious valleys. It'll be the sort of a return from Eden 609 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:04.760 in the Bible. You have this wilderness Eden imagery and Dune itself where it 610 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:09.760 goes from being this dry desert planet to becoming this fountain of life, this 611 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:16.119 water of life planet after Paul takes over and terraforms the planet. But what 612 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.679 Paul had to do, as we said, was go through the worm bile 613 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.800 ritual. Are you glad when you go to church you don't have to take 614 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.760 a take worm bile? What if that was the sacrament every weekend? Right? 615 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.639 It was the worm bile wherein experiences a crossing of the Abyss to enter 616 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:36.440 into the place where the Beni Jeserit witches cannot go. When Maude returns from 617 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.400 this death resurrection ritual, he's apotheosized to bring an end to the rule of 618 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.000 female power and the unrighteous or what he sees as the unrighteous emperor. And 619 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.840 I think in the Dune movie comes off that way. When we get to 620 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.320 Dune Messiah, it's less clear that I mean, certainly the Harconas are bad 621 00:57:55.360 --> 00:58:00.320 guys, but it's less clear that Paul is as righteous as he sees himself 622 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:07.320 to be. And so, as we said, the Harconin have young male 623 00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:14.079 sex slaves. We see imperial brainwashing, we see noble houses with mind control 624 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:19.639 assassins, we see him cultra. All of this is throughout this novel, 625 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:27.199 as well as reliance on cabbalistic ideas, as well as reliance on even you 626 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:35.159 know, predictive elements that we haven't seen yet, like terraforming geoengineering. Nobody 627 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:42.559 would have known about geoengineering, you know, in nineteen sixty eight sixty nine 628 00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:47.719 except people you know working at the Jason Project or at Rain Corporation or something. 629 00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:52.800 Right, we also see delving into as we said, the ability of 630 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:59.760 hallucinogens to bring higher states of consciousness, which again is not the Christian idea 631 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:04.719 very much. In nineteen sixties, you know, revival of paganism idea, 632 00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:13.800 the idea that ecstatic initiatory experience is somehow preferable or somehow a shortcut to enlightenment 633 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:20.280 is definitely what Paul undergoes, even to the point of a kind of death, 634 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:25.800 real resurrection when he undergoes the really intense experience of drinking the worm biole, 635 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:30.119 which causes him to basically almost die, but he comes back from that, 636 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.840 as I said, with actual powers. He has kind of been deified, 637 00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:38.199 and he's called the one. They believe him to be, the Messiah, 638 00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.639 the Mahdi, And then Paul, interestingly enough, plays on this. 639 00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:49.920 So you know, in the Dennisville New version, you see the Timothy Schallamey 640 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.840 character doesn't believe at first, but then he kind of gradually comes to believe 641 00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:58.280 more and more that he is the one, the chosen One. And that's 642 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.920 not like how that's not the Christian view. Jesus doesn't learn new facts. 643 01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:09.239 He's a divine person, so he has omniscience. He didn't learn his godhood. 644 01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:16.719 He didn't doubt himself, right. But Paul after fleeing into the wilderness 645 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:21.440 with his mother again kind of Apocalypse twelve imagery, kind of you know, 646 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.559 Moses going into the desert imagery, he learns the ways of the desert, 647 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:29.079 exactly what we see in the Bible about the character of Moses. And again 648 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:35.199 Paul was a Moses type of baby as well, because the Benny Jesrait witches 649 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.400 wanted any male child put to death. And that's why I think there's a 650 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:45.360 kind of a pretty consistent anti feminist theme that undergirds this story. And the 651 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:50.760 Benny Jesuit, as I said, were intent on religious engineering. So you've 652 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.239 heard our buddies over it, soa cinema talk about religious engineering and the state, 653 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.519 the power structure of the deep state, the oligarchy wanting to control and 654 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:06.280 steer religion. That's what we saw throughout this text. That's principally one of 655 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:09.239 the key elements in why the papacy becomes what it does in the second millennium 656 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:15.039 contrasted to the functionality of the papacy in terms of collegiality and cinidelity in the 657 01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:22.239 first millennium. And we get this gnostic version of religion of the Fremen and 658 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:30.679 a processed philosophy that will evolve out of the primitive religion of the Fremen, 659 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:32.400 which in this story we're told that. In the second one they told that 660 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:37.480 they reinstitute animal sacrifices and maybe even human sacrifices. It's a little unclear, 661 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:43.800 just as a very institute blood sacrifice, which it's unclear if that means animals 662 01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:50.760 are humans, but the Sardocar apparently engaged in human sacrifice because they had upside 663 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:54.960 down people on upside down crosses. In the movie, there was a brief 664 01:01:55.000 --> 01:02:00.480 scene of this where they're draining the blood to mark the Sardikar on their forehead 665 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:07.880 before they go to wipe out the Treadees family. So there you have. 666 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:14.960 That's our first hour. Here, a first half discussing the perennial philosophy of 667 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.880 Dune, and then the second part I'm going to get deep into Doune Messiah. 668 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:22.360 And the reason I want to talk about Doo Messiah is because there will 669 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:29.360 be a movie. According to Dennis Villanueva, if Bill New if Dune Part 670 01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:36.039 one Part two is successful, they do intend to make Doing Messiah into a 671 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.599 full length film. As well, which will be really crazy, will be 672 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:45.360 really intricate, courtly intrigues, be fascinating to see that come to life, 673 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:49.280 probably in the next few years. So hopefully people can be watching this video 674 01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:53.239 even two or three years from now, when Done Messiah gets made into a 675 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:58.159 movie. Maybe even you can share this, send this to your friends and 676 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:04.320 people that would like insight into the real world from fiction. I think genius 677 01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:07.440 fiction, even though I don't agree with all of the gnostic and nestorian and 678 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:14.159 illuminous and perennialist elements of the novel and part one. In Part two, 679 01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.760 we can begin to see a lot of insights into real world geopolitics in terms 680 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:22.159 of how the elites want to control drug lanes, how the elites want to 681 01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:29.679 destroy their enemies through economic warfare, how the power structure uses manipulation of bloodlines, 682 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:32.159 genetic engineering. A lot of that we're going to see in the second 683 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:37.679 one. And you know we're gonna have questions about how we should be governed. 684 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.559 Is an oligarchy good? Is Paul a tyrant? Is an autocrat? 685 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:50.800 What about the religion that evolves out of Paul and his jihad, the Church 686 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:54.920 of Wadib? What about the feminine principle, because we're going to find out 687 01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:00.400 that his sister Alia, there's going to be a cult that grows up around 688 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:09.280 her, and what if she becomes this sort of scarlet this woman, this 689 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:15.360 Babylon woman as the story progresses. And part of that has to do with 690 01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:23.639 infant child trauma, because if you remember, Alia was born with basically adult 691 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.840 consciousness and with all the powers of a reverend mother. So this made her 692 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.599 a very oddball child. People were always very afraid of her, and she 693 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:40.480 sort of develops into this villain figure that we'll talk about later, but I 694 01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.360 don't want to go too much into that because that's for part two, when 695 01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:48.679 we get deeper into doing Messiah. Its themes, it's critiques, and it's 696 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:53.840 esoteric meaning. So hopefully enjoyed this. I want to imagine, guys, 697 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:56.239 to the support of the show via super chats. You can leave a super 698 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.800 chat any time and I will read it the next time I'm doing super chats. 699 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.039 I think we have a couple here from last time. Let's see Kristen 700 01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:10.199 sent ten dollars and said this is for talking to the Hebrew Israelite. Thank 701 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:13.920 you, Kristin. 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Those books are going to 742 01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.960 be able to be sent out in next few days, so good news. 743 01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.840 By next week, pretty much all of the orders should be caught up. 744 01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:18.760 So if you've been worried about your book, hey, it's been in two 745 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.840 three weeks. I apologize. We were out of town. We're back now. 746 01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.039 But when I got back, I could not get a hold of a 747 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:30.039 couple places to order. I did get a hold of them yesterday and so 748 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:34.279 that's all the orders, so we should be fully stocked up. Next week 749 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.760 all the book orders will go out, so go out, so thank you 750 01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:41.960 for your patience, and Part two will be up in the next day or two