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but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his
broadcast exodens, the one and only

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Bill Cunningham, Sorry, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Welcome this glory

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Sunday evening, and I'm honored to
have picked up seven or eight more stations,

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and we have a great failing some
guests coming up later, and I'll

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tell you what. I want to
focus a little bit on what happened on

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Thursday night with the great debate between
Dessantis and the horrible Gavin MacLeod. I'm

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sorry, the governor, the horrible
governor of the great, the poor state

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of California, Gavin Newsom. And
as a consequence, how does that change

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the race? So what I did
was go back in time, and so

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history often repeats itself. So I
want you to think about a couple of

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things. Nineteen ninety two election,
and then we had the one in twenty

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sixteen and the one in twenty twenty, of course, which was I think

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a charade. But nonetheless, in
nineteen ninety two, you may recall that

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there was an old president named George
Herbert Walker Bush forty one, who had

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great success in nineteen ninety one.
He was so popular that shall we say

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the regular Democratic Party, that is, Governor Cuomo, Mario Cuomo of New

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York was the presumed nominee of the
Democrat Party and not some governor from Arkansas,

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are you kidding me? But a
year out he made the decision,

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and his son Chris Cuomo discusses this
that it wasn't his time. He couldn't

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beat this sitting president who had like
a ninety percent approval rating and was unbeaten,

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untied, unscored on. Bush forty
one, at this point would have

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been the fourth Ronald Reagan term,
the first one being the third, and

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so it was thought, well,
the A team is not going to run,

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and so Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton
ran, picked up some delegates at

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a hell of a time in all
the primaries, but as a nominee of

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the Democrat Party, he faced George
Bush, but also faced Ross Perot.

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You may recall Ross Perot, the
millionaire in today's terms, maybe a billionaire

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from Texas, and when it was
all said and done. In fact,

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in the two times that President Bill
Clinton was elected president, in neither race

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did he get fifty percent of the
votes. In nineteen ninety six against Bob

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Doley got forty nine percent. But
in nineteen ninety two, Bill Clinton received

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forty three percent of the vote and
easily won the presidency with some three hundred

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and seventy electoral votes and President George
Bush only had thirty seven percent and Ross

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Perrow had about nineteen percent, and
so forty three percent won the presidency for

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Bill Clinton because there was a third
party candidate who, by the way,

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did not win any states, but
nonetheless took enough votes away, probably from

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Bush but certainly also from Clinton that
the American people said, you know what,

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we want to go a different direction. And so at that point,

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the three hundred and seventy electoral votes
was more than enough for Bill Clinton to

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win the presidency with forty three percent
of the vote. So let's jump ahead

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from nineteen ninety two to twenty sixteen, then on to twenty twenty. In

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twenty twenty, there's going to be
two or three or maybe four other parties

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that may jump in with Cornell West
and Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy Junior RFK Junior,

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which is going to get millions of
votes either one of them. But going

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back to twenty sixteen, at that
point, as I've said many times with

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you on many different Sunday nights,
there's no question that if the establishment knew

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that Donald Trump was going to win
the presidency in November of twenty sixteen,

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there's no way it would have happened. The smart money said, the polls

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indicated that Hillary was a winner,
and so when it was all said and

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done, Hillary Clinton got forty eight
percent of the vote and lost. Donald

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Trump got forty six percent of the
vote and one. And you might recall

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from my previous statement in nineteen nine
two, Bill Clinton got forty three percent

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of the vote and one, so
forty six percent of the vote for the

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Trumpster in twenty sixteen, and he
won three hundred and four electoral votes out

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of five hundred and thirty eight.
He won Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

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Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, an
easy victory. Han't gotten forty six percent

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of the vote. Four years later, in twenty twenty one of the most

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scrutinized elections, and all of us
have a foul teeth taste in our mouth

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as to what we assume probably happened. But nonetheless, the Trumpster in twenty

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twenty received forty seven percent of the
vote, which is more than he received

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in twenty sixteen as a percentage,
and as far as the number of votes,

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he received an additional eleven million more
votes in twenty twenty than Donald Trump

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had in twenty sixteen. However,
would they turnout and this is a prophetic

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number, six six six. The
turnout was sixty six point six percent,

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which is a high one. The
turnout in twenty twenty was sixty percent turnout

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in twenty twenty, and the turnout
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So because of the pandemic and because
of the efforts of zuck Bucks Zuckerberg

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who put in five hundred million dollars
to register a whole bunch of new voters,

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that Donald Trump greatly increased his popular
vote from sixty three million to seventy

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four million and lost. And if
there were fifty thousand votes switched in three

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states, he would have won the
presidency. But it didn't happen. So

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I'm predicting that number one, you're
going to have RFK, and you're going

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to have Cornell West representing various tickets
and various electorate types that are going to

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make sure that the Trumpster can win
the presidency this time with about forty three

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percent of the vote, which is
similar to what happened in nineteen ninety two,

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which is the lowest percentage of vote
Donald Trump would ever receive in the

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three times he would have run for
the presidency. Bill Clinton was able to

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easily win the presidency with forty three
percent of the vote added up. And

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I think there is a strong probability
that Donald Trump is going to be the

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next president of the United States because
of the passion. Every time he's indicted

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or deposed or charged, or the
Democrats want to come after him with something

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else, his support among many people
like myself increases. It makes me more

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likely to vote. And one of
the big charades that I hear now is

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that the media and the Democrats somehow
fear that if Donald Trump wins a second

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term, he may weaponize the Department
of Justice against his political opponents. One

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might ask, what in the hell
is going on right now with Biden using

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his Department of Justice to go after
Donald Trump and the Democrats in New York

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City, New York County, in
New York State, Letitia James, etc.

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Weaponizing the Attorney General's office, and
what's happening in Atlanta and which a

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popular local Democratic prosecutor wants to nail
the Donald again. And so what is

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feared by the media when I watch
some of the Sunday morning talk shows,

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what was feared by the media is
that Donald Trump may use the Department of

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Justice to go after Joe Biden,
Hunter Biden, Barack Hussein, Obama,

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Nancy Pelosi, etc. Which is
exactly what's happening. Anyway. Fifty percent

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of Republicans wants someone other than Trump
to be the nominee, and about seventy

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percent of Democrats wants someone else to
be the nominee. The probability, if

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you listen to Wayne Allen Rood and
myself Wane's a great American, well,

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neither one of us believe that Joe
Biden's going to be the nominee of the

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Democrat Party. Because by the time
the convention rolls around around August twentieth of

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next year in Chicago. Every month
he's going to be in worse and worse

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shape. And so what Gavin Newsom
tried to do on Thursday night was to

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present the alternative to the Democratic Party. He did so poorly. I think

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they may move on from him.
And nobody considers Kamala Harris to be even

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remotely electable. Maybe it's scretching Whitmer, maybe it's some other maybe it's in

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the King Jeffries. I don't know. But Gavin Newsom was so bad and

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pout it so loud and made no
sense that even the Democrat Party at this

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point say, maybe this is not
the guy we should use to take over

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from Joe Biden. But in either
cases, you know that RFK and Cornell

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West, neither one of them are
going to back down. You know,

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facts are stubborn things. And it
came out under the leadership of my good

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friend and your Sean Hannity about whether
or not it is better to live in

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Florida or better live in California.
My producer, Danny Gleeson is kind of

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a Florida kind of a guy.
But these, you know, facts are

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stubborn things. According to the nonprofit
Tax Foundation, which is not Democrat or

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Republican. The state and local tax
collectors in California collect per person nine one

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hundred and seventy four dollars in taxes
ninety one hundred dollars, but in the

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state of Florida that number is well
less than fifty percent of that, which

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is four four hundred and five per
capita, about half as much total taxes.

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And if you talk about the gas
tax in California, it is seven

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point twenty five percent versus six percent
in Florida, which is about twenty percent

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lower in Florida. California's corporate income
tax rate is eight point eight four percent

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and in Florida it's five point five
percent for the corporate income tax rate,

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which is about sixty percent lower in
Florida than California. And the income tax

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rate in California is thirteen point three
percent. I said thirteen point three percent

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in California in Florida. Guess what
zero? There is none, So the

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argument is lost. Which are the
high tax states and which are the low

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tax states? For example, Florida
has the eleventh lowest tax burden while California

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has the fifth highest. And it
goes on from there. One of the

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most effective things I think rhn Is
Santas did was pull out the poop sheet

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in which San Francisco puts out a
sheetmonstrating what city blocks to avoid because of

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excess human excrement and needles and open
air drug use. And that was a

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chart illustrative of the failure of the
Democrat Party in the state of California,

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where no one with any sense would
desire to move there whatsoever. And so

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as far as for all my legion
of fans in California, you know exactly

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what I'm talking about. It's awful. It's bad. It's not good,

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just the opposite. It's terrible.
So if my predictions are correct, all

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Trump needs in November of next year
is to get approximately forty three percent of

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the vote, which I think is
almost a locke. And as long as

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there are two other candidates like a
Cornell West or an RFK junior, to

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split some of the other vote off, that's all he's going to need.

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It'll be a redo of the nineteen
ninety two election when the winner got forty

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three percent of the vote, which
is really unbelievable. But let's talk about

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what's coming up later. Tonight,
and I worked hard because of everything that's

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happening in Israel right now. And
I have on of one of George's finest

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coming up later MTG. Marjorie Taylor
Green has written a book MTG. I

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don't know how we've avoided each other
all these months and the years, but

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she's scheduled to come on later tonight
to talk about her life and times and

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things of those characters. And she
went to University of Georgia, who some

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said were treated unfairly earlier. Today
the final four is Michigan and Washington and

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Texas and Alabama. Georgia is out, so she is scheduled to be with

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us later on to talk about her
book MTG and what's happening also in the

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Capitol also later on, as the
Great Congressional Leader Warren Davidson of Ohio.

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He has a proposal up that talks
about the states calling a constitutional convention.

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One of the questions I always ad
ask is how come we keep voting for

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conservative and Republicans and seemingly it doesn't
do us any good at all. That's

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somehow the same policies continue irrespective of
what we desire, and the solution of

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course would be a state ordered constitutional
convention, in which when thirty eight states

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pass the resolution calling for it,
then there'll be another constitutional convention like the

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one that happened in Philadelphia in seventeen
eighty seven, and the states can then

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each state gets one vote. That
means New York State or California or Texas

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gets one vote, along with Iowa, Ohio, and Wyoming, and so

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they can change the constitution because every
time I speak to a Republican they say,

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look a damn thing we can do
because the Senate requires sixty votes,

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and damn we don't have sixty votes. Later on, also is Steve Molloy

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of junkscience dot com. He's a
scientist and meteorologist. You know, right

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now Europe is having a terrible global
warming problem with eighteen minus eighteen degree temperatures

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and a foot of snow. In
fact, many of the so called experts

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going to the Dubai global Warming Summit
have their jets stuck in ice in runways

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all over Europe. So he's going
to talk about how that's a failure.

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Also later on is Evan Ruark r
u Ark of Numbers USA and what is

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actually happening on the border, and
I want to get into later on with

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John Lott about the issue of the
argument of Gavin Newsom was that somehow the

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Red states are more violent than the
Blue states. Now there's parts in the

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Red States like Jackson, Mississippi,
which drives the numbers of the state of

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Mississippi through the roof. But we're
going to get the facts from John Lott

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of Crimeresearch dot dot org later on
to discuss what are the facts, what

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are not the facts, and more. But this idea of a constitutional convention

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again is in the constitution. It's
not radical. In fact, it's shall

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we say given as a way to
change parts of the constitution. In each

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state gets one vote, and by
one vote, you could eliminate all kinds

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of things. You could add all
kinds of things. You could have a

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budget deficit requirement that there's no budget
deficits every year unless two thirds of the

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House and the Senate both agree.
You could do things on the southern border.

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You could do things with more personal
freedom or big tech, whatever it

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might be. You do things with
evs, which has proven to be a

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fraud fact. Later on, Steve
Malloy of junk science dot com is going

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to spend some time discussing that serious
matters. So let's continue. Coming up

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later, big show planned tonight,
a man coming up with the idea to

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actually implement a constitutional convention called by
the States. That as Congressman Warren Davidson,

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and also later on will be the
great Marjorie Taylor Green to discuss her

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book. She's been in the Congress
about three years and I want to get

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her perspective on all issues. She's
the most dangerous woman in Washington. So

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let's continue, and if a line
becomes available eight sixty six six four seven,

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seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham, the great American with you every

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Sunday night. Let's continue, Let's
never stop. Coming up later as Marjorie

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Taylor Green with her new book and
the direction of Washington, where it's said

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it, I cannot think of a
philosophy that is more destroyed our majestic cities

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than the progressivism, the liberalism,
the Marxism of the modern Democrat Party.

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They are on the path the well
destroying the greatest cities, if not in

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the world it certainly America has ever
had. And if they continue on this

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path, if for whoever, the
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a Democrat continues as president for four
years thereafter, going up into twenty twenty

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nine. At a minimum, Imagine
the southern border. Imagine our majestic city

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is destroyed. Imagine the decapitation of
our police force. I support the Blue,

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God bless the Blue, but imagine
more and more good Americans not wanting

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to get involved because of the fear
of civil lawsuits and this lack of respect.

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Imagine our fantastic public schools, especially
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have seventy five million students at them
receiving no functional education. Can the country

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long survive and our majestic city survive
under the policies of Gavin Newsom, under

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the policies of Brandon Johnson, under
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or the leadership in Austin, Texas, Or what's happening in San Francisco,

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what's happening in Portland, what's happening
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is not, we cannot survive.
It is critical that this country change direction

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beginning in November of next year.
And all I'm saying is that you know

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it, and I know it.
We cannot survive the way things have been

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the past four years. So it's
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six six four seven, seven,
three three seven. Coming up next is

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demand in charge of a Constitutional Convention. Bill Cunningham with you every summer.

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You know, Billy Cunningham, the
great American. Of course, we're heading

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toward Christmas. Can you say Christmas
anymore? I hope so. And Representative

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Warren Davidson, who volunteered, went
into the military graduate of West Point,

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got into some businesses, made a
boatload of money, good business leader west

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Point Graduate, served in the military, and now he represents Central Ohio,

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of course, having taken the seat
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seven or eight years ago. And
Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome again to the

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Bill Cunningham Show. And first of
all, I want to get onto the

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story out of the Washington Post at
a about forty forty members of Congress are

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heading for the exits. All kinds
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Can you talk about since you have
business experience, you've led a normal life,

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and you've been in the military US
graduate of West Point, do you

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sense dysfunction in the halls of Congress. Well, look, we know it's

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broken. I mean, that's why
most people run. Now, I will

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admit there are some people that go
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and unfortunately a fair number of them
seem pretty hell bent on preserving the

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status quo. They don't want anything
to change. Some of them are leaving

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because they went there to try to
change things, and they're exasperated. And

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that's where the public is. I
mean, people I talk to are just

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frustrated, and like, count me
with the frustrated people. I'm not ready

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to throw in the towel. I'm
running for reelection. But there are some

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people that are like, oh,
it's time for some fresh legs. I'm

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sick of this nonsense. Yeah.
And when I look on when I just

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have all the highways and the byways, and of course I'm on the radio

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six days a week, there's this
sense of we elect Republicans, but nothing

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changes. And I suppose smart money
says next November, the Senate's going to

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become Republican. The House maybe not
so, in which case many leaders of

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the House want to get out before
they have to work for Nancy Pelosi or

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a Keem Jeffries, which would be
unbelievable. So how would you answer the

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cry of normal Americans who say we
elect Republicans and nothing changes. Yeah,

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I mean, look, that's the
frustration. I mean, you know what

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happened this year. We passed a
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to have the Senate not take them
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of the Senate, the rules of
the Senate say you got to get sixty

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votes to move lots of things.
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up against is getting stuff through the
Senate. And you know, we've passed

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a lot of the things that we
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can't get the Senate to take them
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spending become so critical, because the
one thing that can go through on fifty

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one votes is a budget reconciliation bill, and you know, we have to

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fund the government one way, shape
or form. And go back to the

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start of the year, Joe Biden
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a clean debt limit increase. You're
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and we said, no, we're
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out of it, and they weren't
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I mean, frankly the public not
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But we got important concessions, like, you know, really a commitment

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to spend less money past two thirds
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Senate. Joe Biden signed it.
And that's where you look at these crs,

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you know, like the one at
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most recently passed head of November seventeenth, Speaker McCarthy on the one, Speaker

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Johnson on the other. Either way, they both failed to implement what was

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agreed to in May, which is
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that's where people get frustrated, and
they should be. So it's the system.

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In other words, I tell the
American people almost every day we have

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a little bit of control of the
House, just barely, but there's five

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or ten members that lean left.
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Chuck Schumer is not going to let
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So the system is set up to
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status quo is unacceptable. So that's
right. And look that's where a lot

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of people are like, look,
how do we dissolve the government and reform

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it? I mean, look,
I've never historically supported this idea of a

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Convention of States because it's dangerous,
but the current system is failing, and

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I think a lot of people are
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another constitutional convention where it goes with
some of the far left, crazy people

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that are out there. I got
no idea. That's why I'm scared of

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that play. What I will say
it really unfortunately, I think one of

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the emblematic votes is this idea that
we're going to continue building a brand new

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headquarters for the FBI in the midst
of all the weaponized government. Now reality,

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it's not all the agents. A
lot of the agent's vast majority of

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them probably great people, but the
leadership of the FBI has been terrible.

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And unless we get that reconciled,
there's no way I can vote to give

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these guys more money. And unfortunately, seventy Republicans sided with all the Democrats

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to say, let's go ahead and
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bit to the Convention of States,
because that is frightening. For one reason,

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like you have no idea where it
goes. But this is an article

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put in by the Founding Fathers back
in seventeen eighty nine that said, if

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I think the numbers three for us, you'll know the number. Say we

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want another convention, a constitutional convention, you start from scratch, or you

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could have one one article addit or
whatever. Explain to the American people the

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Convention of States and why some are
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in total dysfunction. Yeah, so
a lot of times people will say the

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states could just simply decide that three
forces of the states, let's go back

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to a convention. They can limit
the purpose of it, and it can

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only you can only consider these things
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realia is when the Founding Fathers got
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really only supposed to amend the articles
of Confederation, and so they basically said,

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yeah, these are kind of unworkable. Let's just create a new constitution

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and as long as three forces of
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then it becomes the constitution. So
that's the that's the challenge. You could

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you could really wind up with a
whole different basis for our Constitution. Our

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constitution was created by our founding fathers
who recognize that our rights come not from

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government but from God. And the
government can't be the giver of your rights,

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because if they can, they could
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Our constitution limits the ability of the
government to take away rights. But there

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are people that want to spin it
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grant of rights, like, oh, you have a right to housing,

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you have a right to toilet paper. I don't know whatever else they want

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to have right to. But everything
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labor can't possibly be a right,
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to compel somebody else's labor. So
the narrow view of our constitution is is

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right. But the problem we see
is the bureaucratic state. These unelected,

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unaccountable bureaucrats, people like Fauci,
people like Chris Ray that don't get fired.

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They just continue on. Gary Ginsler
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all kinds of folks that are just
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of the office with very little accountability
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and almost none from Congress, and
the beauty the convention of States would

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be that each state gets one vote. So that means the state of Wyoming,

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we get the same vote as to
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you have three of the states,
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or thirty six right now to call
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the convention, you need thirty eight
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then each state has one vote.
We wouldn't that play into the hands of

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conservatives because there's more red states and
blue states. Yeah, that's that's been

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the thinking, is that we've got
a shot at saving the country if you

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get on that path. I don't
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I've been more receptive to it in
this Congress because, look, we're just

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not getting things done that we need
to for the American people. And you

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know, how, how should it
take so much effort to make the Biden

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administration simply follow the law? Our
laws are fine. If we secured a

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border, the border of Trodean certainly
saying look, we don't need more people,

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we don't need more money, We
just need to be freed up to

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actually follow the law, and we
could actually secure the border. They're being

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prevented from following the laws of our
country to defend our country. And it

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really doesn't get more basic than that
than at our border. Well, that

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would be a wonderful thing. And
in the past I've also I'm just a

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slep radio talk show host, but
I'm thinking the country right now is seriously

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off track. I'm looking at some
polling. Of course, polling is an

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irrelevant. Legislation is what matters.
But according to this, according to a

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poll out of the Washington Post,
seventy eight percent of the country as a

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negative view of the future. One
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two percent? But when you have
three forks of the American people say we're

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completely off track. We have an
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We have a chief executive officer who's
not mentally equipped to do the job.

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We have laws that are not enforced
by the bureaucracy because they don't want

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to enforce them or doesn't fit their
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The country is seriously off track.
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there might be an idea to call
the convention of Stage get thirty eight states

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to say, let's do it.
And if that happens, you could limit

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it, maybe things such as southern
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such as thirty four trillion dollars and
national debt on its way to forty trillion

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dollars by twenty thirty, which is
only seven years away, and the interest

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payments on the national debt now are
one trillion dollars plus a year, which

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we can't afford. And this meme
is going around of this Norman Rockwell painting

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of a farmer standing up and saying, why should I pay taxes if we

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can simply print more money? And
how about that? The writing answer to

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that is if dipstits don't matter,
then why tax people? Is it just

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because you hate people that make money? And there are plenty of people paying

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taxes don't make that much, and
you layer in all the layers of tax

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that we've got. You know,
there's another one I saw going around,

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What is the income tax? It's
a penalty for not being as bold as

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your forefathers never tolerated this nonsig no. And if you look, one of

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the most important things is bouncing the
budget you look at. Everyone knows that

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you have to do that right and
in theory, Congress knows that, but

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every year they increase it. I
mean, Willie, we had some of

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the most basic spending cuts in the
world laid out there, and almost every

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single one, you'd have anywhere from
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the Democrats going, well, you
know we can't cut that. Well,

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we can't turn this off. Well
we can't turn that off. You're going

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to turn something off. I mean, you're spending two trillion dollars more than

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we bring in in taxes and tariffs
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You have to turn something off.
We have a spending problem. Well.

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I also would add that story out
of the Washington Post that the FBI

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had forty confidential informants. These are
human assets tracking the Biden family shady business

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deals. Beginning in twenty oh nine. They've been at this for like fifteen

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years of tracking Joe Biden's monetizing the
vice presidency, monetizing being out of office,

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and then monetizing the presidency to his
family's benefits. He's spent fifty years

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in government. He has seaside properties
all over the East coast, and seemingly

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he's made no more, no more
than one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars

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a year in office with two homes
before he became the president. The presidency,

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I think pays four hundred thousand dollars
a year. And so you have

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a FBI who's giving practological exams to
the conservative organizations, including Donald Trump.

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They're going after the Federalist Society,
going after the NRA, and the FBI

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is got his eyeshut about all the
criminal misdeeds of Joe Biden at all and

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has not ignored. You brought up
the new FBI building. Can you explain

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how that plays in to the control
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not vice versa. Yeah, I
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They have the proposal is to build
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for the FBI. I mean,
this is domestic in forcing the laws on

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our country. We just found out
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You know, Elon Musk bought the
crime scene there at Twitter now x and

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we saw how the FBI was coordinating
big tech, not just Twitter, but

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all the big tech companies. We
just get subpoenas on Bank of America,

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so we saw how the banks are
turning over all your records. Just during

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the week of Thanksgiving, we saw
how AT and T surely others working with

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the federal government to log your phone
calls and build the network out. This

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isn't tracking al Qaeda, this is
tracking American citizens. I mean, they're

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building a police state and we're going
to give them the headquarters in the tech

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to further insulate themselves from accountability.
The idea that you would cut them a

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check to do anything except to reform
the place is mind blowing. And look,

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regardless, Donald Trump did pick Chris
Ray to lead the FBI. He

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was supposed to give the public more
confident that the FBI was there to serve

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the people. But it's not going
well, how do we not fire that

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guy? At this point, there
has to be accountability, and I think

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that's where people are so frustrated.
And look, there are the vast majority

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of Republicans in Congress want all these
things. When I go talk to my

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constituents, I'm like, look,
you know, I'm fighting for it.

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The good news is the majority of
the Republicans in the House right now are

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fighting for the same kinds of things
that you and I want done. Unfortunately,

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it's not all of us. And
that's what we need. We need

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enforcements. And so if the people
that are wanting to preserve the status quo

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are getting exasperated and exhausted and we're
wearing them out, or they're just aging

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out so they've been there for forty
years, great, let the country send

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us some reinforcements so we can deliver
on the promises we keep making. Lastly,

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it needs done. Lastly, Congressman
Warren Davidson, why not take departments

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of government and move them to Kansas, maybe Minnesota, send them to Ohio,

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bring them to Tennessee. Why not
disperse all that around the country.

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That was one of my first bills. Will he the drain the swamp back?

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The title comes from Trump's idea,
but the idea is not new,

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but it's something I always love this. Look at the Pentagon's got about less

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than ten percent of the military there. We got troops deployed all over the

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planet. We could scale that back, for sure, but either way,

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why not have the Department of Agriculture
have lots of their employees based out here

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where we grow food. Yes,
Yes, have the Department of Interior out

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in the west where we own all
these western lands. Maybe they'd see it's

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okay to cut down some dead trees
in the forest instead of letting them be

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fueled for forest fires. That have
people that grew up there and understand the

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issues, and it would cost way
less than all the money. The East

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coast, Washington, d C.
Home to some of the wealthiest counties in

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the country, and that's where the
average guy in America feels like their paycheck's

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getting wrecked and it's being sent to
Washington, d C. So that you

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can fund an elite that's totally discanted
from our country. I hope we can

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pass the drain the swamp back,
but it hasn't caught on yet. Well,

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as you said, as long as
the Democrats control the Senate or even

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Republicans, you need sixty votes to
do anything, and I cannot conceive of

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Republicans getting sixty Senate seats. I
guess it's possible, but we'll see what

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happens. But I know there's many
opportunities. And Warren Davidson, you're like

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a normal person. I'm glad you're
there, but keep preaching. It's an

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honor to be there. And I
just look at people do keep sending us

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more reinforcements, more people that are
there to do the right thing. And

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I've seen the momentum shift in the
house since I've been there, and I

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feel like, look, keep sending
us reinforcements. We are going to get

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this done because we have to.
Congressman war david no question we are,

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but we're teetering. And if we
continue beginning of next year, another four

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to eight year run of Gavin Newsom
or Kamala Harris, it's done. It's

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over, the country's done. We'll
be fifty trillion dollars. There'll be a

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dead crisis, in which case dollars
will be worth nothing, pensions will be

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worth nothing. Thing, and you
need to wear a barrow full of dollars

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to buy a loaf of bread.
And we've got to stop the madness.

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Warren Davidson, Congressman, once again, thank you for coming on the Bill

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00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.440
Cunningham Show. Always an honor.
Thank you, Willie. God bless you

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and your listeners, and God bless
America, and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays,

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00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:34.079
Bill Cunningham, the great American,
live with you every Sunday night.

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And whenever we think we can change
government by voting for politicians to make our

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lives better, that's probably a mistake, because the success or failure of your

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00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:51.039
life is completely within your hands and
your family's hands. It can be enhanced,

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00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.719
it can be hurt by government,
but not yet can it be destroyed

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by government. So when the Republicans
tell me, look, we could do

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all these great things, do all
these good things. However, it takes

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sixty votes in the Senate to do
anything, and of course they will do

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nothing. Given a chance, they'll
do absolutely nothing. The status quo is

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what Chuck Schumer desires, and he
gets it because the House Republicans can pass

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what they want to pass. They
can impeach Joe Biden, who needs to

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be impeached for his criminal misbehaviors of
taking bribes directly and indirectly from the nation's

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enemies, but the trial would take
place in the Senate probably next spring or

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summer, and I can't conceive of
Democrats getting rid of Joe Biden. The

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only way to change that is to
change the constitution. I'll's continue with more

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coming up. Next will be the
great Eric grew Arc of Numbers USA.

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Numbers USA about what's happening on the
southern border. Go Cunningham with you every

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recipient of not one, but two
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the one and only Bill Cunningham.
Bill Cunningham, the great American Eric grew

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Ark is with Numbers USA, one
of the great private organizations that keep track

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of illegal migration in this country and
the effect that we have from Tinder to

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frow. And after the great debate
on Thursday night between the governors of Florida

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and California, I'm thinking, boy, California is a sanctuary city. Sanctuary

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state. Florida is not. According
to Gavin Newsom, California's doing great with

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all those sanctuary seekers. And how
the great the poop map put together by

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Governor DeSantis was the highlight. And
think of that great debate. But until

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then I also would note that a
Halla Handra at MAJORCAS has visited the southern

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border a few days ago to get
operational updates. As you know, the

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southern border is completely closed and all
the cities in California are doing a great

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job. But Eric Rewark once again
from Numbers USA, welcome to the Bill

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Cunningham Show. First of all,
let's deal with the visit of Homeland Security

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Secretary of my Yorkers, who should
be impeached. Can you tell us what

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happened on the southern border when he
visited a few days ago and what operational

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updates that he provide. Well,
not a whole lot happened besides photo ops.

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It is you know, obviously he's
comment under a lot of heavy criticism

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because he keeps showing up to Congress
to testify, and he keeps telling him

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that the border is he and they
keep pointing out to him, at least

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the Republicans do that that's not the
case. So this was an opportunity,

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and I'll have to say, I
don't know. Probably not a lot of

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people besides me followed closely DHS and
ICE and these other immigration agencies on social

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media. But we track that because
that's that's what we do. And there's

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a big campaign for them to point
out how many people that are actually to

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turing at the border and how many
people they're moving from the interior of the

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country, which isn't the case.
So this is this is a pr campaign.

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You know, obviously there's an election
coming up, and so Secretary may

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Orcus is trying very hard to give
the impression that the border is secure and

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that they're managing it. But you
know, his argument contradicts himself because he

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says the border is secure, but
yet he keeps telling Congress that in order

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to fully secure the border, they
need to pass laws, which he demands.

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You know, he's not going to
enforce the laws they've already passed.

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He wants them to pass the laws
that he wants to enforce, and basically

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that means just letting everyone in and
making them legal. So the Bide administration

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has claimed that they've created new legal
pathways for certain nationalities Nicaraguan's Cubans, Venezuelans,

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and alec of Dorans. They don't
have the authority to do this,

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but they're parolling them in and they're
giving them work permits and claiming that this

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is something they have the ability to
do. So Mayorkas has given the impression

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that everything's you know, hunky dory, that it's under control. But anyone

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who is paying attention, and that's
you know, and this is across the

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board Americans, right, this isn't
a partisan issue. Most Americans understand what's

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happening at the border because they're seeing
it affecting their communities. California, you

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know, that's been a long term
issue. I saw Governors Santis point out

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to Governor News how many people have
left California to move to other states.

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That's what we call secondary migration.
And one of the push factors making people

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leave California is the rapid rise of
the population due to the influx of immigration.

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And obviously they have the largest illegal
immigrant population in the United States.

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And the goal I think is political, which is when I talked to my

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friends in Nevada and other states,
that anyone who gets a driver's license,

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legal or a legal resident can get
an application to vote. It's automatically sent

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to you. Then ballots are sent
out. But one thing that didn't happen

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in the Great Debate, which I
think should have, is that the stay

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in Mexico policy is the key to
controlling the border. That is, if

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you have to apply for refugee or
status and you can only apply in Mexico,

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Suddenly what Trump was doing came into
focus. So just from a policy

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perspective, what were the two or
three things that Trump did that shut down

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the southern border that Biden refuses to
do. Well? The remain in Mexico

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policy was instrumental. And you know, people when people think back about it

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the Trump administration, they think about, you know, tough border security and

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enforcement, and that was that was
the case at the end of President Trump's

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term. But what happened is that
was a response to a surge that occurred

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during the earlier part of his term. You know, he came in,

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he was talking about building a wall
and getting tough, and we saw initial

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drop in illegal crossings. But once
and this is this is the case always,

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the cartels, you know, the
smugglers and the traffickers, they wait

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to see what new policies are put
in place, and they realized that the

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tough talk wasn't actually being implemented in
policy. And there was various reasons for

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that. But then they realized that
you could still bring people over to the

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border, and they would get into
the United States. And that's when the

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Trump administration put in these policies,
which which were very effective. Remain in

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Mexico. But most people who were
coming to the border are claiming asylum credible

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fear. You know, they say, if you return me to my home

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country, I'm going to be persecuted, right, and then they're let into

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the country. What the Trump administration
said, okay, we will process you

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know, no matter whether you come
to the United States legally or across the

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border without permission, you still have
the right under US law to claim asylum.

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Right, go through the process,
right, But that doesn't mean you're

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supposed to be released into the United
States. And so the Trump administrator said,

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you will wait to Mexico will process
your acclaim. But most people who

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are coming out, almost all the
people who are now coming to the border,

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don't have legitimate asylum claims. And
if they know that they're going to

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have to remain on the Mexican side
of the border, most are going to

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not even make the journey. And
those who do, you know, they

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don't want to wait around, and
they're going to go home because they're not

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here because they're being persecuted to hear, because they want to enter the United

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States. Most of them want work, they want to join family who are

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already here, they want benefits.
You know, there's a big magnet drawing

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them in. But if you can
make if you deny the easy access into

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the United States, into the interior, they're not going to show up.

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And that was the main thing that
Trump did. They also, you know,

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COVID obviously had a big effect on
a border across Title forty two,

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which the Biden administration lifted, which
basically prevented anyone from coming across the border,

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or if they did, they could
be immediately returned. So that was

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lifted, and now we have a
policy, you know, we get you

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know, the other side say,
is it not an open border, And

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that's true in the sense that not
every single person showing up gets in,

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but almost everyone showing up eventually can
get in to the United States. And

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so there's a turnstyle you just have
to go. The Bide administration would like

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you to go through the turnstyle,
but they also would like basically everyone to

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go through that into the United States, whether or not they have a legal

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authority to be or legal authorization to
be in the United States. The Biden

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administration is doing their best to get
in. As far as the millions I

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live in Cincinnati, if you take
Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, there's about

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twenty two million people that live in
Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. We like

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to think it's the heart that beats
the entire country. Maybe I'm wrong,

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but Ohioan's Hoosiers Kentuckians. About twenty
two million live here. And what are

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the numbers. Let's assume that in
the first four years of the Biden administration

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illegals entering the country. Give me
that number. And then if we continue

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those policies four more years, let's
say Biden gets re elected, I kind

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of I'm somewhat certain that he's not
going to be the nominee. The guy

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mentally is disintegrating. But nonetheless,
if his policies continue, if we go

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through an eight year period of these
open border type policies, in my orcus,

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will we get to the number of
approximately twenty to thirty million illegals,

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which is the population of Ohio,
Kentucky, Indiana combined. Is that possible?

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That certainly is possible, And you
know, numbers usa are. You

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know, we're not out there trying
to you know, be fire breathers or

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say, you know, we never
want to exaggerate the problem, but on

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the other side, you don't want
to under play what's going on here.

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And very well could see ten million
people coming in illegally during the Biden's first

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term. We do know. And
the problem with giving out numbers is the

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Biden administration is not very forthcoming with
releasing these numbers. But and the other

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problem is we just don't know,
you know. There's that old saying,

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we don't know what we don't know. So there are the people that have

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been released into the United States by
the Biden administration. There are people who

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we know have gotten in who have
not been apprehended or encountered by border patrol.

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That's about one point seven million at
this point. But those are what's

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known. They're called known god aways, right, But the unknown godaways we

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know are at least equal to that, and they could be several times higher.

613
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And so that's that's the real question
mark. Right now, we can

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say roughly probably about five to six
million people have gotten into the country one

615
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way or the other illegally right under
the Biden administration, so we could reach

616
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that ten million mark by the end
of his first term, which is really,

617
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when you think about it, just
unfathomable. And again, the Biden

618
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administration is taking the position that we
aren't going to secure the border and there's

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nothing you can do about it.
Now, there is something Congress can do

620
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about it. And HR two,
which passed the House back in May,

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is something that would remain in Mexico, make it permanent. It would raise

622
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the credible bar fear. It would
sorry credible fear bar, would raise that

623
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so that you actually have to demonstrate
you have a credible fear before you're allowed

624
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to apply for asylum. It would
fund detention space so that people who actually

625
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are apprehended are detained instead of released. It put more border patrol agents on

626
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the border as opposed to what we're
doing now is pulling them off and processing

627
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people into the United States. So
that's a very important bill. That and

628
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just this week there was a press
conference with several Senators in the Freedom House

629
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Freedom Caucus where they are arguing that
whatever funding or whatever must pass bill.

630
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But whether it be sending money to
Ukraine or to Israel, whatever you might

631
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:28.239
think of those separate issues. You
cannot You have to have border security first

632
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and foremost right. That's not an
negotiable, negotiable issue. It has to

633
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be something we prioritize. It's not
at the bottom of the list, it's

634
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not off the list. It is
at the very top of the list when

635
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it comes to things that Congress must
address. And so HR two, that's

636
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what we keep telling people. Tell
you're a member of Congress, pass HR

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two. That will go a long
way to solving this crisis. Now,

638
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.719
Eric grew Ark of numbers USA dot
com, you have a great video up

639
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:02.480
with Senator Harry Reid says birthright,
citizenship courages illegal migration and twenty oh seven

640
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.920
when I and you have a clip
here of President and then Senator Obama talking

641
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about how evil it is for people
to come to the border illegally and then

642
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.199
to come into the country. You
have Chuck Schumer sounding like Donald Trump when

643
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it comes to legal migration. In
twenty oh five, Hillary Clinton, Bill

644
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:25.840
Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Barack Hussein, Obama, Harry Reid, We're all

645
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on the side of Numbers USA when
it comes to illegal migration. Something happened?

646
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What occurred? Something? Yeah,
what occurred? That made the Democrats

647
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completely flip and demand open borders,
fentanyl, human trafficking. What happened to

648
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the Democrats? And you're right,
and you're right that we the Democrat at

649
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least what we would say the centrist
Democrats were very much on the side of

650
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numbers USA not that long ago.
I mean President Obama was a candidate.

651
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.280
I mean he spoke very forcibly about
make sure we control the border and stem

652
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the flow of the legal immigration.
If I remember correctly the video that you're

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referencing of Senator Reid, he said, what same country would have this kind

654
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of policy? Well, it's this
one. But something happened politically. They

655
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had to decide, we're losing the
working class. Therefore we have to substitute

656
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.719
the voters with another group. It
may not turn out to be that way,

657
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.960
but was it strictly political? Did
money flow across hands? Always follow

658
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.280
the money? Why did every major
Democrat flip and refuse to control the border.

659
00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:38.440
What happened? Well, I think
the main cause of that was the

660
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:45.440
abandonment of the democratic leadership of the
work of working class Americans. Right.

661
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:53.480
They decided that they were going to
cater to the business interests who are demanding

662
00:51:54.400 --> 00:52:00.559
more foreign workers coming in, and
they assumed that could maintain their base,

663
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:06.519
right, the support among working class
Americans. Now we're starting to see that's

664
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not been the case. Trump obviously
made great inroads with white working class voters,

665
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.199
but if you look at New York
City, you look at Chicago,

666
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:20.000
you look at other cities run by
Democrats, the voters there are up in

667
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.480
arms, and black Americans are starting
to speak out. I mean, Mayor

668
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.280
Adams said, this will ruin,
This just will destroy New York City,

669
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this migrant crisis. They're cutting budgets, school budgets, for police, for

670
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:37.840
firemen. Chicago is giving out nine
thousand dollars two migrants for housing costs,

671
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right while they're cutting benefits and assistance
to residents of that city. And so

672
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whether or not the Democratic Party can
maintain that support among their base with these

673
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.840
policies, that remains to be seen. But we you know, we never

674
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know if we've reached the tipping point
until after we've reached that. But this

675
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.119
certainly seems like we may we may
be at that that point where we're starting

676
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:10.079
to see bipartisan uh movement to change
these policies where it's not well We're going

677
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:15.360
to vote for the Democrat because he's
a Democrat, no matter what happens with

678
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.639
immigration, you know. And and
and that's a double edged sword, right

679
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:22.639
because, uh, the optimistic view
is, well, things have gotten so

680
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.559
bad, you know that we can
actually affect change. But the other side

681
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:29.760
of that is things have gotten so
bad, right, yeah, And it

682
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really, it really is a crisis. And again you can't downplay what's going

683
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on. But there is the opportunity
for a real movement. And the fact

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that Congress, you know, in
February, DHS funding comes up, right,

685
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and so in January we also have
other budgets, So Congress, no

686
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:54.280
one wants to shut it down for
political reasons. You can't live Democrats are

687
00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:58.519
gonna have to ar you can't live
in airports, you can't live in police

688
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:02.360
stations. Should right now, they
had temperatures in the teens. People are

689
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.679
going to die. And the Black
Residence of Chicago, who put the clown

690
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.800
in charge of the mayor's office,
is even there saying we can't take this

691
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:15.199
anymore. Imagine if that was doubled
or tripled in the next couple of years.

692
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:20.440
You can't live in the San Diego
International airport. You can't live on

693
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.880
the streets in many of our cities
because of the cold weather coming despite all

694
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.280
the man made global warming taking place. And at some point we're going to

695
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:31.679
come to our senses, hopefully not
before it's too late. And once again,

696
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:37.400
numbers USA dot Com is wonderful and
Eric drew Ark, a lot of

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00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.360
work lies that in twenty twenty four, and you're kind of blowing the whistle.

698
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:45.000
And what happens next year if we
continue politically these policies, what's going

699
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:50.440
to happen to our major majestic cities
are slotting into a poop directory in which

700
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.320
you have to be careful to walk
over the poop to get the work,

701
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.800
and the city is going to collapse. And we can't continue on this path.

702
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.920
And Eric drew Ark, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and thank

703
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:02.760
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Show. And please let's do it again.

704
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:06.880
Thank you, Eric, that was
my pleasure. Thank you God bless

705
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.840
Let's continue with more if a line
becomes available, which it never does eight

706
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:15.639
sixty six six four seven seven three
three seven these policies have incorporated with them

707
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:21.719
and within them the availability of ruining
our majestic cities and causing them to be

708
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:25.360
nothing but shells of their former self. It's all caused by policy and policy

709
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.440
changes, and we must stop.
Let's continue. Bill Cunningham with you every

710
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:42.320
Sunday night. Billy Cunningham, the
Great American. I'd love to hear from

711
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:46.840
people from Numbers, USA, like
Eric Ruar. Imagine being a man or

712
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.760
a woman, and there's only two
genders. There's only two sexes, by

713
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:53.719
the way, working on the Southern
border, and that we've en on Ali

714
00:55:53.800 --> 00:56:00.559
Bradley of News Nation, Sean Compton's
great cable news outfit to talk about physically

715
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.559
what she's observing every day along the
Arizona part of the southern border. It

716
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:10.079
is beyond ridiculous. Only happening in
America nowhere else. Goes to policy failures.

717
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.559
And the two things that would change
it fundamentally are two policies in effect

718
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.920
when Donald Trump was in office.
Number One, you must make any claim

719
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.679
for asylum not in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or Columbus, Ohio, or Austin,

720
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:29.360
Texas. You're gonna have to make
those claims. Guess what In Mexico.

721
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.880
You have to stay in Mexico.
You can't come here and the second

722
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:38.400
thing is to complete the southern border
wall so that using drones and other modern

723
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:44.440
means, you can actually direct the
forces to the place where they're most needed.

724
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.360
That would stop the rapes, stop
the robberies, stop the murders,

725
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:52.320
and likely stop the importation of tons
of fentanel in this country, killing over

726
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:59.360
one hundred thousand Americans every year.
That is totally ridiculous. Let's continue with

727
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.519
more. Coming up, actually,
Steve molloy of junk Signs dot com to

728
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.239
talk about the cold wave and the
snow hitting all over Europe right now.

729
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.719
In fact, a lot of those
going to the climate change summit in the

730
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.800
Middle East have their plane stuck to
the tarmac. It's so cool. Let's

731
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:30.239
continue with more. Bill Cunningham with
you every summer, you know, all

732
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:32.840
right, Bill Cunningham, the great
American. Of course, as we speak,

733
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.400
there's a big conference underway in Dubai
in which the rich and famous have

734
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.960
got together and their five star hotels
and their private golf streams going to preach

735
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:46.000
to the rest of us about how
evil carbon use is of fuels that make

736
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:52.519
middle class lives livable. Steve Molloy
is his senior Energy and fellow and former

737
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:57.880
Trump EPA team is available to discuss, of course, all these energy matters.

738
00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.559
He also has a great website which
deals with all the mistakes of the

739
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:06.840
climate lies of the past. And
I spoke to Steve briefly off the air

740
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.400
and we talked about maybe we're making
headway on the topic, but some say

741
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:14.320
maybe we're not. And Steven molloy, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

742
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:17.000
Junk Science is a great website.
So what would you anticipate is going

743
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:21.719
to come out of this is a
big powwow in Dubai with mister Ketchup,

744
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.480
John Kerry and these other elites that
are going to tell us how evil natural

745
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.480
gas is. Well, Bill,
thanks for having me. It's always great

746
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:35.199
to talk to you. Well,
this is the twenty eighth un Climbate conference

747
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:42.000
called the COP twenty eight. And
you know, since climate idiocy began in

748
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.559
nineteen eighty eight, and since these
cops have started in nineteen ninety five,

749
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:52.760
global emissions have increased fifty percent.
Now that's okay with me. I think

750
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:58.599
emissions are good, but they don't. So they get together to meet every

751
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:01.480
year, and you know, a
couple times they have signed treaties and they

752
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:07.199
have promised to give money, but
they've accomplished negatives, not even zero just

753
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.159
you know, for the from for
their own agenda, they've they've been negative

754
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:15.920
in accomplishments. So and this year, uh, you know, the the

755
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:22.079
the forest has I guess peaked out
because the president of the conference is the

756
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:29.440
CEO of the Abu Dhabi National Oil
Company. And if that's not funny enough

757
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:35.559
for you, he's been using you
know, his presidency, his his cop

758
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:42.400
presidency to sell Abu Dhabi oil.
Wonderful, wonderful. Follow the money,

759
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:46.360
Steve, follow the money. Yeah, no, it's it's really great.

760
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.480
I mean I'm all for him,
Uh, selling more oil and gas.

761
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:52.960
You know, the world needs more
oil and gas is what we run on.

762
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:58.199
Nothing happens in our in our society
without oil and gas and coal.

763
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.480
We need all these things. So
bully for him. But you know,

764
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.840
so I'm not quite sure why he
feels the need to promote climate idiocy at

765
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.440
the same time to pretend he's doing
something to change the weather or the climate

766
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:15.320
or the environment or whatever. It's
not happening. It's just it's all a

767
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.880
farce. You know. After the
great debate on Thursday Night involving the governors

768
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:23.360
of Florida and California. And there
were so many great points made by Sean

769
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:28.239
Hannity in that great debate who's a
good personal friend? And one thing that

770
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:32.079
came out of it is is that
it appears that maybe the thing is turning

771
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:36.639
just a little bit. I look
at Connecticut. The governor of Connecticut,

772
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.119
a guy named Lamont, who had
the same requirements of California up by twenty

773
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:45.320
thirty six, every vehicle must be
electric. They're changing that. I see

774
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:50.920
that the Ford CEO has lost about
four point one billion dollars on electric vehicles.

775
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:54.000
Everyone they sell cost about thirty one
thousand dollars of a loss. That

776
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:59.079
even when the government bribes people to
buy him, people aren't buying him because

777
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:02.119
he can't resell, and that tow
trucks can't pick them up. There's no

778
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:07.119
way of the power grid. I
point out in your article that you say

779
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:13.239
the US is spending about seven point
five billion dollars to build tens of thousands

780
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.760
of electrical vehicle chargers all over Hell's
a f acre and that's not working either.

781
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:22.719
So explain how this whole, this
whole farce, this hoax of electric

782
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:29.519
powered vehicles is falling apart. Well, so this is electric vehicles are going

783
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:35.159
to go down in textbooks as a
classic case of failed industrial government. Industrial

784
01:01:35.199 --> 01:01:42.360
policies sailed central planning. The government
thought it could just order evs and it

785
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.960
would work. And of course,
you know, evs are more expensive,

786
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:52.440
they're more inconvenient. You need a
whole different infrastructure than we have now.

787
01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:59.840
There's really no upside to them.
And manufacturers have basically been blackmailed by the

788
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.519
government into making these things. And
as you pointed out, you know,

789
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.360
last month, Ford lost thirty six
thousand dollars on every EV sold. Uh

790
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:13.639
and and so you know, the
only way even Tesla, the only way

791
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.840
Tesla can even claim to make a
profit is well, number one because it's

792
01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:22.639
subsidies, but number two because a
lot of their production is in China.

793
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:27.079
And to give you an idea of
how important that is to Tesla's bottom line.

794
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.519
You know, the average UAW worker, you know, four GM worker

795
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:36.920
makes about, you know, in
the eighties, eighty eighty thousand dollars or

796
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.039
so. The average Tesla worker,
most of whom are in China, make

797
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:44.280
less than half of that. You
know, in your order thirty six thousand

798
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.960
dollars, So dud no wonder Tesla
you know is doing better than Ford and

799
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:55.199
GM, but only because you know
they're they're abusing Chinese workers. So uh

800
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.679
but but but there's just nothing.
You know, consumers don't don't want these

801
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:07.559
things. You know, wealthy people
might buy them as a second vehicle or

802
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:12.880
sort of a you know, virtue
signaling piece, or maybe some toy because

803
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.199
you know, some of these really
hot evs can go from zero sixty and

804
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:20.800
you know, like three seconds or
something like that. But it's just not

805
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:27.159
a serious more dependent on communist China
because every EV depends on communist China.

806
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:34.199
Just for example, the processed graphite
that goes into every EV battery, one

807
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:37.440
hundred percent of that comes from communist
China and that is not going to change

808
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:43.000
anytime soon. Well, what have
been two or three major predictions of the

809
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:46.880
John Kerry crowd that have proven to
be completely false? Oh well, they

810
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:52.559
predicted that the Arctic would be ice
free in the summers by twenty thirteen.

811
01:03:53.679 --> 01:04:01.840
You know, this year the hottest
summer ever. You know, there's plenty

812
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:08.880
of ice, you know, millions
of square kilometers of ice. No problem,

813
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:12.199
they have what have they predicted.
They have. They have predicted all

814
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:19.800
their all their climate models have predicted
much warmer temperatures than are occurring. Boy,

815
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:26.519
you know, they've predicted that there
would be increases in wildfires and hurricanes

816
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:30.960
and all sorts of natural disasters.
None of those have ever come through.

817
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:38.800
There's no trended natural disasters that correlates
with either emissions or the slight warming we've

818
01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:44.039
seen. So just everything that they've
ever predicted has been a bust. But

819
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:48.800
you know they you know, the
first thing they did was capture all the

820
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:56.920
institutions. They captured the media,
they captured the government. They they're funded

821
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.000
by all these rent seekers, so
the truth doesn't really anymore. I mean,

822
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.360
this is their agenda, and come
hell or high water, they're going

823
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:08.599
to push it because they've captured everything
that could possibly question it. In fact,

824
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:12.639
you have to follow the money in
all scandals, and the government doesn't

825
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:17.000
fund studies through their university friends that
demonstrate that if temperatures raised one or two

826
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.239
degrees over the next seventy years,
that might be a positive thing. It's

827
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.400
not a negative, it's a positive. So when the government funds something,

828
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:26.639
you get more of it. When
you tax it, you get less of

829
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.440
it, and there's no they've incorporated
within the minds of our youths. We

830
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:35.199
say, for those between the ages
of twenty and forty, that climate crisis

831
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.840
is real, that we're going to
have much more hurricanes. By the way,

832
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:42.280
the hurricane season ended a couple of
days ago, and we've had I

833
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.559
think zero or one hurricanes that struck
the United States of America. And wasn't

834
01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:50.239
that a non story this year?
Yeah, the hurricanes have been a non

835
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:56.320
story in the US. And you
know, we're at the point where if

836
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.639
there's a gust of wind someplace in
the South Atlantic in the summer, we

837
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:02.840
count that as a storm. Well, you know, names totally crazy.

838
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:06.320
I want to hit the point that
you mentioned about the government paying for studies.

839
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:10.719
You know, the art of war, all battles are won before they're

840
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.320
fought. Well, with government funded
science, all science is determined before it's

841
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:19.119
funded. So the government only gives
money to people who are going to produce

842
01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:24.239
the answers it wants. And that's
what climate science has been. There's been

843
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:30.079
no honest evaluation of climate science funded
by the government ever. And in fact,

844
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.920
now when you fund these studies,
you get lots of them, and

845
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:36.199
right now the democrats, and these
aren't the democrats of history. These are

846
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:41.480
the left wing Democrats have their friends
in and out of universities and other study

847
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:45.400
groups that simply are paid garbage in, garbage out, And that when you

848
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.880
teach something for twenty years, people
are apt to believe it. And so

849
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:55.639
the overcoming of the orientation and the
indoctrination of kids through college has got to

850
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.719
be a goal of some to bring
light and not so much heat to the

851
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.920
art. I also see in one
of your columns about about getting rid of

852
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:08.719
flatulent animals that somehow the bovines,
the cows, the pigs, the sheep,

853
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:12.840
and the lambs and the chickens are
an environmental disaster. In fact,

854
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:16.800
there the left is now saying,
quit eating hamburgers and don't have chicken because

855
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:21.119
of what's required. And explain how
I have to give up a big mac.

856
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:27.159
Explain that number nine. Explain why
I can't eat hamburgers anymore because cats

857
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.320
have too much flatulence. I think
John Carey has too much flatulence. That's

858
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.920
a different story. But explain what
the left wants to do their hamburgers.

859
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:39.360
Well, so the vegans have adopted
the climate movement, and the theory is

860
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:46.119
that livestock produce when they belch and
far, they produce methane and methane and

861
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.440
they claim is a greenhouse gas and
warms the planet. And of course,

862
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:54.159
you know it's sort of a laboratory
setting. Yes, methane has greenhouse gas

863
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.039
properties, but of course in the
atmosphere, which is a lot more complicated,

864
01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:02.239
it has absolutely no no warming potential
at all. Nonetheless, facts don't

865
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:09.159
matter. They are using this to, you know, push the anti meat

866
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:13.400
agenda. And of course there are
the rent seekers in the you know,

867
01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:18.319
fake meat business, and they've all
gotten together and are pushing this anti meat

868
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.960
agenda. Now, keep in mind, al Gore has it that he in

869
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:28.680
fact is not giving up Cheeseburgers's the
line he has drawn. Now, green

870
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.640
meat is not something I find physically. You know, you have to eat

871
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.279
it with your eyes before you eat
it with your mouth, and then think

872
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:38.479
about green processed meat. It's not
something I'm attracted to. Yeah. No,

873
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.920
And there are all these companies out
there that are trying to figure out

874
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.479
how to feed us insects and seed
pets. Insects nothing taste cockroach. I've

875
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:51.840
always said that give me some cockroach, but some ketchup on it. That's

876
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:55.399
a big thing in California, isn't
it. You got to eat insects and

877
01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:01.319
cockroaches. Yeah, no, it's
very crazy. Yeah, give me a

878
01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:06.399
cockroach to go get it. It's
un And you wrote a book of years

879
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:12.720
ago called Green Hell, How environmentalists
plan to control your life and what you

880
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.680
can do to stop them. One
thing I've noticed is that supposedly in twenty

881
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:19.920
twenty six that we're going to have
governors who are going to have kill switches

882
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:25.600
on cars. And another thing is
the thermostats. So many thermostats today are

883
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:30.279
smart thermostats, and it's going to
be like in the winter time the highest

884
01:09:30.279 --> 01:09:33.159
you can bring the temperature is sixty
five and in the summertime the low as

885
01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:39.199
you can go seventy five. And
the government's goal is to kill your car,

886
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.039
control the heat inside your home,
know your role, and shut your

887
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:46.840
mouth. There was a movie called
Soiling Green years ago in which we processed

888
01:09:46.880 --> 01:09:50.159
dead bodies in the meat and people
didn't know they were eating your grandmother.

889
01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:55.159
Is that where this is headed?
Well? Right? So the government is

890
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:59.239
behind these kill switches in cars,
and also smart meters. Now, smart

891
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:02.840
meters have been sold people as a
way you can monitor your electricity use and

892
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:08.439
reduce emissions. No, smart meters
are a way for the government to shut

893
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.279
down your appliances when they want.
You know, we have all these quote

894
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.199
unquote smart appliances, and with smart
meters, the government, through the utility,

895
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.680
can can shut them off whenever they
want. With the kill switches.

896
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.960
It's the same thing. It's being
sold to us as a means of you

897
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:26.880
know, preventing drunk driving. Of
course, who doesn't want to do that.

898
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:30.600
But of course, you know the
technology, I doubt they can ever

899
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:35.880
have that technology you actually make it
work. But anyways, their goal is

900
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:42.560
to get that technology into cars so
that you know, through the satellites,

901
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.479
through just the way you get your
GPS information, they're going to kill your

902
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.279
car whenever they want. Now they
don't want to drive, and you're not

903
01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:49.880
gonna be able to start it.
Is that real? In twenty twenty six,

904
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:54.600
the government can kill your car if
you're driving too many miles, they'll

905
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.640
say you can't drive anymore. Tony
Benner, You're done, you can't drive

906
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.359
anymore. Is that real? What
do you mean? Of course, it's

907
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:04.520
in the legislation. Thomas Massey from
Kentucky tried to, you know, the

908
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:09.359
last spending bill, tried to insert
an amendment to get the government out of

909
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:13.880
that. But of course you know
it's sailed because you know, everybody in

910
01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:17.000
Congress is all for the government,
even Republicans, And so you know,

911
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:21.239
the government is going to be funding
research on how to install this technology in

912
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:25.159
every car. You can bet that
it's going to be mandated in every car.

913
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:29.239
And once they can figure out,
you know what Bill Cunningham, what

914
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:31.680
car Bill Cunningham is in, they're
going to turn it off. I'm in

915
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.960
a Chevy Blazer. I guess they
can turn me off anytime they want.

916
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:39.600
How much longer? You know,
every you and I Steve Molloy are against

917
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:44.199
pollution. I don't like stinky air. I don't like unclean water. The

918
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.720
country right now, the water in
the air is as clean as it's been

919
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.199
for the last one hundred years.
And every year that goes by, he

920
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:55.039
gets more clean. But that's not
good enough, is it. No,

921
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:58.399
Because it's not about clean air.
It's about control. You mentioned my book

922
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:01.800
Green Hell. They want to control
every aspect of your life. They want

923
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:04.119
to tell you what to eat,
what kind of electricity you can use,

924
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.960
where you can live, what you
can drive, what you should invest in,

925
01:12:09.319 --> 01:12:12.279
what kind of toilet you can have, what kind of water fiction,

926
01:12:12.359 --> 01:12:15.520
what kind of toilet paper? I
mean, there's just no aspect of your

927
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.119
life that is too personal for them
to control. They you know, there

928
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:24.800
are eight billion people on the planet. They want less because you know,

929
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:28.800
first off, totalitarians can't control eight
billion people, but they can control two

930
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:30.520
billion people, and that's where they
want to go. Ultimately. Well,

931
01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:38.239
between all the abortion on demand and
also eating cockroaches and also maybe grandmother down

932
01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:42.359
the road sarline green style, I
can see where we're headed. Steve Malloyd,

933
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.119
I began this interview with is their
hope? And I have a sense

934
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:49.960
there's hope because of what the Connecticut
Governor's doing because people aren't buying evs.

935
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.359
Do you have any any hope this
can be turned around? I do.

936
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.640
I think the wheels are falling off
the whole thing with the electric cars,

937
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:01.000
you know, leading the way.
I think that, you know, the

938
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:05.760
longer we go by, more time
that passes, the more the climate hoax

939
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:11.960
is exposed. Now there's kind of
a race here. We have to the

940
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:15.119
hoax has to be exposed in time
for people to vote out the idiots who

941
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:18.359
are trying to control us with it. Well, that's the goal, hope.

942
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:25.960
Can you imagine if next November we
have a Kamala Harris or a deranged

943
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:30.000
mentally Joe Biden still in power for
four more years after that, isn't there

944
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:38.079
a point of no return? It
may be time for revolution? Saying because

945
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:43.600
I know what Jefferson said about revolutions
every now and then, but he might

946
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:46.239
have been so jump science dot com
and I see all the books that you've

947
01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:49.039
written, are the articles that you've
written, and you were an advisor.

948
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:54.279
I have a great picture of you
with APA Administer Scott Prude under the Trump

949
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:58.039
years, and there was hope.
And let's let's keep hope alive. That's

950
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.840
all we have. And once again
see malloy. Merry Christmas and happy New

951
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.279
Year to you and yours, and
let's keep it going. Merry Christmas to

952
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:10.880
you, be careful, Merry Christmas. Let's continue with more and if a

953
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.720
line becomes available. Eight sixty six
six four seven seven three three seven,

954
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:17.600
Bill cunning and the Great American with
you and all great Americans every Sunday Night

955
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:24.199
are a hoax. They will never
accomplish as they set out to be to

956
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.399
get rid of carbon based fuels,
which will be with us for the next

957
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:33.880
twenty thirty to forty years or longer
until someone creates di lithium crystals from star

958
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:40.720
Trek and maybe change all energy production
or hydrogen I'm not sure, or more

959
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:45.079
nuclear power plants or whatever it might
be. But all the electricity is now

960
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.000
produced by fossil fuels. And to
get rid of these vehicles is a joke.

961
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:51.479
To tow them as a joke.
Talk to a tow truck driver about

962
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:55.560
what is required to tow one of
these vehicles. It is a joke.

963
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.279
And so also the price the average
middle classroom mat and cannot afford. My

964
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:05.720
producer, Danny Gleeson cannot afford,
an ev they are too expensive. When

965
01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:10.560
the wheels hit the street, they
go down in value about twenty to thirty

966
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:14.920
thousand dollars. And the government's got
to bribe you in order to buy one

967
01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:17.640
by giving you tax credits of one
type or another. And we can't afford

968
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:23.000
it. Plus, according to Sean
Hannity, they have more mechanical process Let's

969
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.159
continue with more coming up next is
the great John Lott. Go Cunningham with

970
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:50.479
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973
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974
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:11.560
Marconi Awards for his broadcast excellence,
the one and only Bill Cunningham, My

975
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.119
Billy Cunningham, the great American.
Of course, many of us who are

976
01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:19.119
political junkies spent some time on Thursday
night watching the great debate between the governors

977
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:24.800
of Florida and California. One of
the things that struck me, and when

978
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.319
he said this, all I could
think about was John Lott of Crime Research

979
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:34.000
dot Org. And that is that
he's again the Democrats are saying that there's

980
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:41.079
a much worse crime rate in red
states and even red cities, which I

981
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:45.239
know is false, which I know
is not the case. So joining you

982
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:47.159
and I now is John Lott and
John Lott. Welcome again to the Bill

983
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:50.800
Cunningham Show. And John, I
don't know if you saw the debate itself,

984
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:55.560
between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.
But one of the points made by

985
01:16:55.560 --> 01:17:00.199
the Santas is that, you know, Florida is relatively safe in California is

986
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:05.039
not. You have the numbers.
Who's right and who's wrong. I mean,

987
01:17:05.079 --> 01:17:09.800
it's not even close. I mean, the violent crime rate in California

988
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:15.319
is like twice the violent crime rate
in Florida, you know, and it's

989
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:21.760
pretty obvious why California has a worse
violent crime rate than Florida had. Now

990
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:28.159
they want to go and focus on
murders, which are much closer between the

991
01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:33.960
places. But you know, it's
yeah, and Gavin Newsom is kind of

992
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:40.880
responsible for making this claim earlier this
year. The states that voted for Trump

993
01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:45.319
in two thousand had a higher murder
rate than the states that voted for Bien.

994
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.119
And that's true in twenty twenty in
twenty twenty one, the reverse was

995
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:55.000
true. You actually had the states
that voted for Biden had a higher murder

996
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:58.159
rate, and that data was already
out at the beginning of this year.

997
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:01.359
They knew that, and yet they
ignored it, and all the fact checkers

998
01:18:01.399 --> 01:18:05.840
out there kind of ignored it.
But look, there's a more fundamental problem,

999
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:12.560
and that is crime. It's almost
always a local issue. When you

1000
01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:17.760
go and you have policing, no
member police are going to hire. Who

1001
01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:21.560
do you think decides that? It's
the local governments that decide that. Who

1002
01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:26.079
do you think determines a lot of
the policing policies or virtually all of them.

1003
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:31.439
It's a politicians that determine that.
Who do you think makes decisions have

1004
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:40.079
prosecutions? It's locally elected district attorneys. Judges are overwhelmingly elected locally across the

1005
01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:44.680
country. So when you're talking about
who's going to be arrested and whether they're

1006
01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:46.560
going to be arrested, and whether
you're talking about whether people are going to

1007
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:51.960
be prosecuted and charged with crimes,
and when you're talking about sentencing, those

1008
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:59.239
are all decisions that are being made
locally. And so you know, what

1009
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:05.439
you find is that across the whole
country, the counties that voted for Biden

1010
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:11.279
have a much higher crime rate,
much higher murder rate than the counties that

1011
01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:15.039
voted for Trump. And that's true
whether you break it down by the Biden

1012
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:20.079
States or the Trump States, and
both the Biden and the Trump States,

1013
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:28.039
it's the Biden counties have higher murder
rates than the Trump counties, and that's

1014
01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:31.600
in the twenty twenty data where the
Democratic states have a lower murder rate.

1015
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:38.479
The reason why the Trump states have
a high murder rate then was because of

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01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:44.000
these counties that are there, these
Democratic counties. I mean, it's not

1017
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:49.039
difficult to go and see what's going
on there. And I'm looking at your

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01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.159
website, crimeresearch dot Org, which
is a great it's got this map the

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01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:58.359
United States of America and one of
the factors, and there's many factors in

1020
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:03.319
what causes crime. There's a very
small number causing disproportion and impact causing food

1021
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:09.000
deserts. The inability of people to
walk around a night in Chicago is well

1022
01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:14.119
known. But you have a concealed
carry permit report that is all fifty states,

1023
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:18.199
and it just looks on the surface
that if you're a blue city in

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01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:24.880
a blue state like all of California, Illinois, New York, et cetera,

1025
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:30.920
that concealed carry permit holders are small
in comparison to states like Iowa,

1026
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.520
Kentucky, in the Anna, Ohio, and Florida. And so that's a

1027
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:39.159
part of it. But the other
part is is a functioning public education system.

1028
01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:42.439
The other part of it is moms
and dads living together, caring about

1029
01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:46.199
their offspring. The other part of
this thing is judges. My wife spent

1030
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:50.119
twenty five years on the bench,
and I think she was a conservative.

1031
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:57.000
But nonetheless, what conservative judges,
conservative prosecutors have one approach to crime.

1032
01:20:57.319 --> 01:21:00.760
Liberals have a different approach that has
failed. And so what do you say?

1033
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:08.319
Because I watch you testifying the Congress, I love your articles, I

1034
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:14.319
watch your stuff, and it's hard
to break through what the media considers to

1035
01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:17.760
be important when it comes to crime. I'd like to see John Lott on

1036
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:21.479
set with David Muir of ABC News. I'd like to see you with Lesterer

1037
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:26.800
Holt. I like to see you
talk about why it's important they have concealed

1038
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.520
carry permit holders and the half million
to one million crimes every year not committed

1039
01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.720
because of somebody a good guy with
a gun. I'd like to see that.

1040
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:39.279
But that's not happened yet. I
doubt it's ever going to happen,

1041
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:43.520
and so is one of the solutions, one of many to holding down the

1042
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:48.520
crime rate is to allow more and
more Americans to have properly concealed permits and

1043
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:55.479
or open carry constitutionally and also allows
someone who's an allegation of domestic violence and

1044
01:21:55.600 --> 01:22:01.039
allegation to be able to protect themselves. Please inform the American people. Yeah,

1045
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:03.560
I mean, look, everything you've
said I agree with. There are

1046
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:11.520
lots of factors that affect crime rates, everything from single parent families to you

1047
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:15.479
know, not making it risky for
criminals to commit crime. And you can

1048
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.960
make it risky for criminals to commit
crime in many different ways. You can

1049
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:23.359
make it from a higher rest rates
and conviction rates and longer person sentences,

1050
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:28.199
but you can also make it riskier
for criminals to commit crime by allowing victims

1051
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.760
to be able to go and defend
themselves. And if my research convinces me

1052
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:36.840
of anything, it's the most vulnerable
people in our society who benefit the most

1053
01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:41.880
from having guns for protection, people
who are relatively weaker physically, women,

1054
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.520
the elderly, and also people who
are the most likely victims of violent crime.

1055
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:50.119
That overwhelmingly tends to be poor blacks
who live in high crime urban areas.

1056
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:54.760
So it's not just you know,
the irony is when you look at

1057
01:22:54.920 --> 01:23:00.039
heavily democratic states, whether it be
California or New York or Illinois, the

1058
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:05.640
people that they let get permits are
basically wealthy people who live in the suburbs,

1059
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:10.119
and that's fine, but they're not
the ones who are facing much crime.

1060
01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:13.399
I mean, you could have one
hundred percent of the population with a

1061
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:16.479
concealed carry permit in a county,
but if there's zero crime, you know

1062
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:19.800
that would occur there, You're not
going to see any reduction in crime.

1063
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:25.960
You have to have the people who
are carrying be the ones who live in

1064
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:30.439
the high crime urban areas. And
so in a place like Illinois where it

1065
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.079
costs over four hundred dollars or so
to go through the process to get a

1066
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:38.279
concealed carried permit, who do you
think is going to get a permit when

1067
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:43.399
you're charging that much? In California
and New York, we're up until recently,

1068
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:48.880
you had to provide a good reason
to some Democratic official for why you

1069
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:54.800
should be able to carry. The
Democratic officials only seem to think that wealthy

1070
01:23:55.039 --> 01:24:00.000
whites who are wealth politically connected were
the ones that had good reasons to build

1071
01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.439
to get permits. We had the
data on all the concealed carried permit holders

1072
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:09.279
in Los Angeles County a few years
ago. They had like three hundred and

1073
01:24:09.279 --> 01:24:13.359
forty one concealed carried permit holders.
In an adult population of eight and a

1074
01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:17.399
half million people, only seven percent
of the permit holders were women, Only

1075
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:21.720
five percent were black, only six
and a half percent were Hispanics. You

1076
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:26.560
know, nationwide, you're talking about
thirty percent of permit holders are women.

1077
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:30.119
Is it just that the women who
live in Los Angeles County don't have to

1078
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:36.039
worry about being stalked or threatened with
crime that blacks in Los Angeles County or

1079
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:44.000
Hispanics who have permits outside of California
where they didn't need to get approval from

1080
01:24:44.039 --> 01:24:49.000
some local Democratic official, had much
higher permit rates. Is it just that

1081
01:24:49.079 --> 01:24:54.680
they blacks and Hispanics in Los Angeles
don't face crime. I mean, it's

1082
01:24:54.680 --> 01:24:58.720
just not a serious issue. It's
just that for some reason, the powers

1083
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:01.000
that be didn't think that they had
good reasons to be able to go and

1084
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:04.800
protect themselves. They didn't think,
oh, hardly anybody did, other than

1085
01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:13.439
people who gave large political contributions and
were politically connected to for the sheriff,

1086
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.159
and you know, John Lytton,
those facts are stubborn things that say,

1087
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:23.119
it looks to me like the Democratic
Party does not act in a way to

1088
01:25:23.159 --> 01:25:28.720
protect its own voters, which is
allowing Democratic voters in high crime areas to

1089
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:32.960
have a streamlined procedure to be able
to get a weapon and to protect themselves.

1090
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:39.520
Democratic politicians should be encouraging that,
not discouraging it, because they're the

1091
01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:43.039
ones affected by it, but the
media doesn't cover it that way. Are

1092
01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:47.800
Democrats wising up to what's happening to
them? Do you think? I hope

1093
01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:51.079
so. I mean, you see, I mean, if you look over

1094
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:55.520
the last ten years, there's been
a sea change in terms of who gets

1095
01:25:55.560 --> 01:25:59.119
permits. And this is one of
the things we put point out in our

1096
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:03.119
reports that we put out. Over
the last ten years, the permit rate

1097
01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:08.880
for blacks has increased about two hundred
and twenty percent faster than for whites.

1098
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:14.439
For women, it's increased about one
hundred and eleven percent faster than for men.

1099
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:17.560
And so, you know, you
begin to see. I think that

1100
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:23.680
these groups begin to understand that how
much they benefit from being able to go

1101
01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:30.199
and have guns. You've seen their
survey data out there. NBC News just

1102
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:33.600
came out with the survey that shows
that over half of American households own a

1103
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.920
gun. I think that actually underrepresents
the total that's there, and we could

1104
01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:45.000
talk about why that's the case.
But among the fastest group of people getting

1105
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:51.520
bhind guns are blacks yea. And
my own guess is right now, if

1106
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:56.359
you could go and break it down
by religion, you'd find that a lot

1107
01:26:56.399 --> 01:27:01.479
of traditionally democratic Jews are going out
getting guns for protection, as they should,

1108
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:06.880
and also Muslims. There's three boys
that were shot and Vermont. One

1109
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:13.479
of them so anounced earlier today,
is paralyzed from the chest down. And

1110
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.800
there was a mentally ill person who
wanted to kill I would imagine Palestinians,

1111
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:23.720
and they had no way to defend
themselves against his lunatic and he shot the

1112
01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:28.680
three boys, one of whom has
permanent disabling injuries that may not have happened

1113
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:30.880
if they had possession of a firearm. I don't know what the laws are

1114
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:35.800
in New Hampshire and Vermont. I
imagine there's somewhat somewhat free and easy,

1115
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:42.279
but I'm not sure, but there's
a proclivity against guns. Guns are inanimate

1116
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:45.680
metal objects, but the media covers
it as if you're possessing fentanyl or something

1117
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:51.960
wrong or something bad, and it
just seems to me, Yeah, well,

1118
01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:56.000
look, guns make it easier for
bad things to happen, there's no

1119
01:27:56.039 --> 01:28:00.000
doubt about that, but they also
make it easier for people to protect themsels

1120
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:03.039
also prevent bad things from happening.
And what we see is that one of

1121
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:10.159
the things we show and the report
is that permit holders are incredibly lawbody and

1122
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.640
you're talking about people. If you
compare it to police. For example,

1123
01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:19.840
permit holders are convicted of firearms related
crimes that one twelfth the rate that police

1124
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:26.319
are convicted of firearms related violations,
and police aren't rarely convicted. Police are

1125
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:30.319
convicted about one twentieth the rate of
the general population. So that means permit

1126
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:35.199
holders are convicted about one two hundred
and fortieth the rate of the general population

1127
01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:41.520
is the time fraction. So you
know, are there banned people with guns?

1128
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:45.159
Yeah, but the problem is with
so many gun control laws is that

1129
01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:48.720
you're primarily taking guns away from the
people who obey the laws. The reason

1130
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:55.920
why every place in the world that's
either banned all guns or all handguns has

1131
01:28:55.920 --> 01:29:00.159
seen an increase in murder rates every
single time, it's basically because it's the

1132
01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:05.439
most law abiding, good citizens who
obey the ban and turn in their guns.

1133
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:09.479
I mean, and this applies to
other types of gun control laws,

1134
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:15.119
not just dance. Now you have
a column up about three weeks ago at

1135
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:18.520
the Wall Street Journal John Lotton,
how to handle domestic violence and gun rights.

1136
01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:23.399
Well, one of the articles of
the radical left is these red flag

1137
01:29:23.479 --> 01:29:27.920
laws. And if someone charges somebody
with a piece of paper saying he violated

1138
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:30.880
my rights domestically, all of a
sudden, all your weapons can be gone

1139
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.119
in many states, and you may
not get them back for a long time.

1140
01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:40.399
You're left uncapable of defending yourself.
But if you would ask most people

1141
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:44.720
about domestic violence or beating up I
guess your wife, should that person lose

1142
01:29:44.760 --> 01:29:47.399
the possession of their guns? The
public would probably say yes, but they're

1143
01:29:47.520 --> 01:29:54.359
terribly misinformed. Tell us why,
right, Well, it's actually there's the

1144
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:58.319
reason for the Wall Street Journal piece
was there was a hearing before the Supreme

1145
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:01.920
Court dealing with this guy called Rahemi, who is a really bad dude.

1146
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:08.079
I mean, the guy is a
drug dealer. He's committed many felonies,

1147
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:14.079
but he just wasn't prosecuted for those. In twenty twenty, he beat up

1148
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:23.119
a girlfriend of his and she got
a domestic violence protection order which took away

1149
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:27.920
his guns. But that's a civil
process. So here's the distension that is,

1150
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:32.600
he can either convict this guy of
being a felon, which they should

1151
01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:39.239
have done many times over, and
in that case you have beyond reasonable doubt

1152
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:44.319
in terms of whether or not the
person is guilty of the crime. But

1153
01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:47.960
when you're talking about a civil type
decision, you don't even necessarily have to

1154
01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:53.960
have a hearing. The people aren't
represented by lawyers that are there. You

1155
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.640
can hire a lawyer yourself, but
not everybody is going to be willing to

1156
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:03.479
pay ten thousand dollars go into that
type of hearing. But then it's just

1157
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:09.279
what they call the preponderance of the
evidence, which is just like slightly different

1158
01:31:09.279 --> 01:31:13.079
than a coin flip. So you
have two people who are making different charges,

1159
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:17.319
and if the judge it's like fifty
point one percent likely to believe one

1160
01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:23.079
person versus forty nine point nine percent
to believe the other, then you know

1161
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:28.319
that's sufficient. It's just is it
slightly more than one side from the other.

1162
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.560
And the problem is you're going to
have mistakes that they're going to be

1163
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:36.840
occurring much more likely there in terms
of taking away people's rights if they can't

1164
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:41.920
even have a hearing. And Raheemi
didn't have a hearing in this case.

1165
01:31:41.960 --> 01:31:45.359
He didn't have wasn't represented by a
lawyer, and so there are all sorts

1166
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:49.680
of issues that come up in terms
of errors that can occur there. And

1167
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:58.279
so you know, and that's the
case before the Supreme Court right now.

1168
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:02.680
The Buying administration pushed the Supreme Court
to go and hear this case because Rahemi

1169
01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:08.039
is such a bad guy that everybody
nobody wants were he me to have a

1170
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.039
gun? No, the question is
how do you take away his gun?

1171
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:15.760
You take it away by actually prosecuting
him for some of the or even one

1172
01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:19.199
of the felonies that he was committing. The violent felonies, you know,

1173
01:32:19.199 --> 01:32:25.039
where he's firing guns at people or
you know, beating up other people.

1174
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:30.079
They could have gone after him many
times when you at the prosecutor in the

1175
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:34.359
Dallas area wasn't going to after him. No, well that's Dallas, that's

1176
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:40.279
Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Austin. Terrible but John Lott once again,

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01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:44.439
Merry Christmas. Crime Research dot Org. Lots of articles, lots of stuff.

1178
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.880
The most law abiding people in the
world are those where the concealed carry

1179
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:51.039
permit, or someone legally in possession
of a gun in a constitutional carry state.

1180
01:32:51.560 --> 01:32:55.159
John Lott, we got to go. Thanks for accepting my call this

1181
01:32:55.199 --> 01:32:58.560
glorious Sunday night, and once again, man, you and yours have wonderful

1182
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:02.239
holidays and merry Christmas. Well,
thank you, and thank you for beating

1183
01:33:02.319 --> 01:33:06.000
their bill. You make right back
at you, John Lott, Thank you.

1184
01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:13.520
I let's continue with more. Bill
Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

1185
01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:21.479
I Billy Cunningham, the great American
and John Lott spent time in the Trump

1186
01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:28.239
Department Adjustice doing research on crime issues. Among the American people, the one

1187
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:34.399
with the lowest incidents of crime are
those who have concealed carry permits or legally

1188
01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:40.880
carry in a constitutional carry state like
Kentucky or Indiana. That is the group

1189
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.680
of people that governments should encourage to
become armed and to defend themselves and others

1190
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:50.880
because they're law abiding citizen. And
I would encourage every black female within the

1191
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:58.159
sound of my voice and the hundreds
of thousands who listen to me every Sunday

1192
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:02.560
night to seriously conceal that are purchasing
a weapon getting a permit, especially if

1193
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:08.359
you live in a high crime area
in which your life and limb is routinely

1194
01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:14.079
at risk of damage or death.
And I would hope, I would hope

1195
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:20.560
that blue cities and blue states would
encourage African Americans and those victimized by so

1196
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:27.039
much crime to actually to actually get
that done, because it is critical.

1197
01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:34.479
One's right to live involves the right
not to be frequently burglarized, have carjackings,

1198
01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:39.760
shootings, and rapes and things of
that character. And it's critical critical

1199
01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:43.399
as an American and a high crime
area to know how to protect yourself because

1200
01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:45.840
with nine to one one calls and
the collapse of so much law enforcement,

1201
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:50.159
all they do is come and take
a report. Let us continue. Bill

1202
01:34:50.199 --> 01:35:13.800
Cunningham, the Great American, with
you every Sunday By Billy Cunningham, the

1203
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:16.960
Great American. Of course, the
experts are telling me, after some of

1204
01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:21.760
the recent debacles of our current president, the regime headed up by Joe Biden,

1205
01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:28.479
that the great to California governor is
going to be the next president of

1206
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:32.359
the United States, that Governor Newsom
has the right stuff, comes from the

1207
01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:36.359
largest state, and that the Democrats
tell us what a great job he's done

1208
01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:40.840
in California. So Gavin Newsom is
going to take the oath of office in

1209
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:44.479
January of twenty twenty five, and
all is going to be well with the

1210
01:35:44.520 --> 01:35:48.479
world, thank god. We if
someone has some information for those who don't

1211
01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:53.800
live in California, have gone through
the nightmare it's called the California catastrophe and

1212
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:59.079
how to reform our broken system by
John Cox, he's written extensively about Gavin

1213
01:35:59.159 --> 01:36:02.720
Newsom, what's happening in California and
John Cox, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham

1214
01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.000
Show. And first of all,
give the American people an over you Bill,

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01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:12.920
no problem. Give the American people
an overview of what living in California

1216
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:18.560
spend like under Gavin Newsom. Well, unless you're in the top one percent,

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01:36:18.720 --> 01:36:25.640
Bill, it is really really difficult. Frankly, I live in California

1218
01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:29.159
because of the weather, and frankly
a lot of people do. But you

1219
01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:32.840
know, the politicians can't screw up
the weather, but they really screwed up

1220
01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:40.239
just about everything else. Famously,
California has the highest number of homeless.

1221
01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:45.359
It's got a housing shortage, a
water shortage, and energy shortage, all

1222
01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:49.560
of which are caused by mismanagement and
government. Frankly, our education system,

1223
01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:56.239
we spend one hundred billion dollars a
year on that's most that's higher than most

1224
01:36:56.399 --> 01:37:02.039
state budgets, and the results rival
Mississippi for some of the worst in the

1225
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:08.359
nation. We've got wildfires threatening us
all the time. Our roads are an

1226
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:12.600
absolute disaster. Crime is on the
rise. I mean, you almost couldn't

1227
01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:17.359
name one aspect of life here except
you can get an abortion on every street

1228
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:24.960
corner just about. And the legislature
leaves the nation in enacting gun control,

1229
01:37:25.920 --> 01:37:29.960
which hasn't had much of an impact
on our crime rate. So you name

1230
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:33.319
it. We've got major difficulties here, but you wouldn't know them from the

1231
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:38.840
way the media treats our govern our
taxes through the roof. Also, so

1232
01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:43.039
many go to Nevada and Arizona,
Utah. Let's deal with homelessness. When

1233
01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:47.640
the communist dictator, the mass murderers
Ujhapain, came to visit San Francisco at

1234
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:53.079
the invite of Gavin or Newsom,
all the homeless evaporated, the needles were

1235
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:56.359
cleaned up, the poop was gone. Where did the homeless go? Yeah,

1236
01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:00.880
what happens a peace on this gosh? You know they got rid of

1237
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:05.359
them somehow. I mean, you
never know what motivation does to people,

1238
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:09.880
right, Bill. I mean,
they knew that the city of San Francisco

1239
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:13.600
is going to be highlighted to the
world, frankly with this conference, and

1240
01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:17.119
so they actually did something. They
actually moved the tens cities out. Now,

1241
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:21.239
obviously they didn't deal with the problem
permanently, because you still have these

1242
01:38:21.319 --> 01:38:26.880
people who, let's face that,
most of them are drug addicted or alcohol

1243
01:38:26.920 --> 01:38:31.760
addicted, which is very sad.
It's not passion, Bill, to leave

1244
01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:36.640
someone who was addicted like that to
live on the sidewalks. It's not compassionate

1245
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:41.319
to them, and it certainly isn't
compassionate to the rest of us or to

1246
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:45.239
the businesses they have to try to
exist in that situation. You know,

1247
01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:50.880
it's kind of funny, Bill.
The major newspapers in California, which usually

1248
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:56.920
love Gavin Newsom because he is so
pro abortion and so pro gun control,

1249
01:38:58.319 --> 01:39:04.159
they actually criticized him. They actually
published editorial pieces that basically said, what

1250
01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:08.840
are you doing? You could deal
with the problem, but you didn't do

1251
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:13.800
anything about it until the world came
to San Francisco's doorstep. And you know,

1252
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:16.840
it just shows you the level of
mismanagement, the level of neglect on

1253
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:23.039
the part of these officials. And
my book bill is designed to awaken people

1254
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:27.600
around the country to this mismanagement,
and you know, make it clear that

1255
01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:33.159
electing Gavin Newsom will make this country
far worse than even Joe Biden could make

1256
01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:35.640
it. You know, I live
in Ohio. I'm a Midwesterner. To

1257
01:39:35.640 --> 01:39:42.960
think that a Chinese communist mass murderer
gets better treatment in California than an average

1258
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:47.840
citizen is disgusting. But I guess
even in California, if you're Gavin Newsom,

1259
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:53.159
you think that's par for the course
because the Democrats are promoting him as

1260
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:57.039
the substitution for Joe Biden, which
I think is likely to happen. Let's

1261
01:39:57.079 --> 01:40:01.439
talk about water and wildfires, which
in Ohio and because of the Great Lakes,

1262
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.000
water is not an issue. Because
of the Ohio River, we have

1263
01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:09.760
more water, fresh water we could
ever used. I often say I've often

1264
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:15.359
asked presidents I as President Trump this, why can't we build pipelines from Ohio

1265
01:40:15.399 --> 01:40:20.079
from the Mississippi River all the way
out to Nevada or out to California.

1266
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:25.880
We have more water going by Cincinnati, billions of gallons every second we could

1267
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:29.039
never use and They've tried to do
that, but they can't do it because

1268
01:40:29.079 --> 01:40:31.840
of eminent domain, and it would
be a fifteen hundred mile pipeline. We

1269
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:35.119
have thousands of miles of pipeline,
but we can't get some of the simple

1270
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.399
of that done. Why is water
right now? I'm told there's a new

1271
01:40:39.479 --> 01:40:43.239
lake somewhere in Death Valley, and
I'm told right now there's plenty of water,

1272
01:40:43.319 --> 01:40:47.439
but they can't put it in the
reservoirs because of ecological concerns. Can

1273
01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:54.880
you explain it's mismanagement? Bill?
I mean, the California water projects start

1274
01:40:54.920 --> 01:41:00.840
in the fifties and turn what were
areas that were deserts basically into burdens agricultural

1275
01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:06.159
paradises. I mean, California's agriculture
is second to none in the world.

1276
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:11.760
We have two growing seasons here.
But they've missed management. They haven't built

1277
01:41:11.760 --> 01:41:15.600
a new reservoir built in fifty years
now. Think about that for a second.

1278
01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:20.680
Fifty years ago, California's population was
maybe fifteen million or something like that.

1279
01:41:20.720 --> 01:41:27.800
Today it's forty and they haven't built
a reservoir. I think Newsom finally

1280
01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:32.640
finally allowed a permit to go through
for a reservoir but we get plenty of

1281
01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:36.600
ring. We got a ton of
ring in snow last year and it's washed

1282
01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:41.680
into the Pacific Ocean. And that's
what happened five years ago. Now,

1283
01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.119
you know, we go through cycles
in California. Obviously there's some years we

1284
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:48.039
don't get much rain at all,
and that was the reason they decided to

1285
01:41:48.119 --> 01:41:54.560
build the California Water Project. Originally, it's a series of canals and reservoirs

1286
01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:58.479
that were very well engineered. But
they've let it go to seed. They

1287
01:41:58.520 --> 01:42:03.439
haven't expanded it even as the population's
gone up. And that is just mismanagement.

1288
01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:06.439
And you know what it's related to, Bill, It's related to the

1289
01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:12.359
rise and power of special interest groups
and Sacramento and what do I mean?

1290
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:16.399
You've got environmental lobbyists who just will
not allow anything to be done. And

1291
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:21.399
why because they raise all this money
from people scaring them half to death.

1292
01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:26.880
You know, the delta smelt the
little fish here there is going to be

1293
01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:29.760
extinctive. We don't you know,
if you don't give us, you know,

1294
01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:33.359
a thousand dollars to you know,
lobby legislators, Well guess what they

1295
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:36.399
raise all this money, they've got
to spend it, and they then use

1296
01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:43.000
it to kill any effort to manage
the water system here. And it's the

1297
01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:46.720
same thing with wildfires. They don't
let anybody manage the forest because touching the

1298
01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:53.039
forest could mean disasters. And obviously
they raise money off of those kinds of

1299
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:55.960
things, and they have to get
something for the money they raise. And

1300
01:42:56.760 --> 01:43:01.479
you know, unfortunately Sacramento is basically
owned by these kinds of interest groups and

1301
01:43:01.600 --> 01:43:05.000
Gavin Newsom is the leader of the
band in that regard. Let's talk about

1302
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:12.600
the public education system, which is
complete collapse. The if you're a mother

1303
01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:15.439
or a father, you got three
kids and you want to send them to

1304
01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:19.039
Los Angeles schools, of the San
Francisco schools somewhere, all of that character

1305
01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:26.319
what kind of education you receive under
Governor Gavin Newsom. Well, Gavin Newsom

1306
01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:30.800
has turned the schools over to the
unions. And why because again it's all

1307
01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:35.920
about money. The California Teachers Association
has three hundred thousand members at one thousand

1308
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:40.359
dollars a piece, that's three hundred
million dollars a year, and they use

1309
01:43:40.439 --> 01:43:45.239
a lot of it to help politicians
like Gavin Newsom, and they basically control

1310
01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:47.960
the system. It's so interesting Bill. I don't know if you saw it,

1311
01:43:48.039 --> 01:43:53.560
but last weekend the New York Times
finally wrote an editorial that said that's

1312
01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:58.520
shutting down the schools during the pandemic
was a bad idea. I mean,

1313
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:01.760
I will fell off sheerl when I
read that. Oh my lord, wow.

1314
01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:05.920
And that's what Gavin Newsom. Gavin
Newsom shut down the schools during the

1315
01:44:05.960 --> 01:44:13.560
pandemic. He gave into the union
and why again because they financed his campaigns

1316
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:17.720
and the kids suffer and we're not
going to know the full extent of this

1317
01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:25.319
something and this educational deficit for maybe
decades now, and it really hurts.

1318
01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:30.319
So we have to do something about
a government for sale. I want to

1319
01:44:30.359 --> 01:44:31.720
make a point, by the way, Bill, that my book is not

1320
01:44:31.880 --> 01:44:38.439
just about the problems that Devinism is
engendered in California. It's about a solution.

1321
01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:43.800
I have a solution that would take
the special interest money out of politics

1322
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:48.159
that would return good policy. It's
called Here the People. It's all through

1323
01:44:48.199 --> 01:44:54.560
the book. It's very popular with
voters that we've done focus groups and they

1324
01:44:54.640 --> 01:44:58.880
love it. It gets money out, It gets the special interest money out.

1325
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:04.640
And Gavin Newsome is a prime example
of a politician who runs his state

1326
01:45:05.039 --> 01:45:11.319
according to what these special interest groups
want. And what they want is often

1327
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:16.119
what they benefit from, but the
rest of us suffer with. And this

1328
01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:21.119
is a problem in our politics all
through the country. And this book,

1329
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:27.119
I think is going to hopefully be
very popular with people who want to do

1330
01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:31.159
something about our broken democracy. Name
of the book is Newsome Nightmare by John

1331
01:45:31.279 --> 01:45:36.319
Cox. One issue that middle class. We have a vibrant middle class in

1332
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:41.520
most of the Midwest. Homes costs
between two and three hundred thousand dollars.

1333
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:45.880
Most of the suburban public school districts
function. There's little or no crime outside

1334
01:45:45.880 --> 01:45:50.800
of the urban areas. As far
as family formation, the great majority of

1335
01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:56.159
parents show up at parent teacher conferences
with an intac family ready to go.

1336
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.319
We have large functional parts. A
middle class American man or a woman can

1337
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:04.680
live a relatively good life in large
parts of Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio.

1338
01:46:05.239 --> 01:46:12.119
Is that true in California? Oh? God no. There was just a

1339
01:46:12.119 --> 01:46:15.560
poll gun that said that sixty percent
of the people in the Bay Area would

1340
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:20.479
leave if they could think about that
for a second, that most people here

1341
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:25.600
actually would like to leave to some
degree. You know, it's just so

1342
01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:30.760
expensive to live here. The housing
shortages are just incredible. Bill, The

1343
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:35.039
cost of living is out of control, and Devin Newsom makes it worse every

1344
01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:38.960
day. Just recently, I don't
know if you were aware of this,

1345
01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:44.680
but he enacted a twenty dour minimum
wage for fast food workers. So they're

1346
01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:49.560
picking out industries like that. Why
because those industries, you know, and

1347
01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:57.199
the unions who want to organize those
industries are paying for this kind of legislation.

1348
01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:00.720
Well, a twenty hour minimum wave
sounds great, and it may be

1349
01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.439
necessary because the cost of living so
great out here, but that is going

1350
01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:11.520
to by itself increase the cost of
living all the way down the line with

1351
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:16.359
his buddies from the legislatures just keeps
increasing the cost of living with these handouts

1352
01:47:16.399 --> 01:47:21.880
to their favored groups. And again, you know, the average person can

1353
01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:26.600
live a good life, as you
said, in Pennsylvania, Ohio, because

1354
01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:30.680
you've got a legislature that doesn't do
this stuff. But ours is totally owned

1355
01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:36.880
by these interest groups. And that's
the reason that California is so it's so

1356
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.279
mismanaged and so difficult to live in. If a man or a woman,

1357
01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.760
what weather, the weather's great,
But if a man or a woman wants

1358
01:47:44.760 --> 01:47:47.640
to live in a middle class area. What does a house cost? I

1359
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:51.039
have some family members who just bought
a house for two hundred and sixty thousand

1360
01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:57.399
dollars and a place called Deer Park, a suburb of Cincinnati. Good schools,

1361
01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:00.840
good police, flat wall. It's
about two hundred and sixty thousand.

1362
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:04.840
Spend twenty grand, get a painting
carpet under three hundred thousand. You're ready

1363
01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:10.560
to go. What's a typical home
middle class Americans? What does it cost?

1364
01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:15.039
In California? You're looking at five
to six to eight hundred dollars a

1365
01:48:15.159 --> 01:48:19.520
foot, So you're looking at a
two thousand square foot house at six hundred

1366
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:25.720
hours the foot is a million two
bill a million two and it's a million

1367
01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:30.720
two a million and yeah, I
mean if you're a young person just starting

1368
01:48:30.760 --> 01:48:36.960
out, it's it's almost impossible to
afford a house with that kind of a

1369
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:42.119
cost. And by the way,
the real estate taxes out here aren't cheap.

1370
01:48:42.199 --> 01:48:47.000
You know, they make a big
deal sometimes about you know what taxes

1371
01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:51.279
are like. But you know,
our taxes are limited to one percent.

1372
01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:57.319
But one percent of a million two
bill is twelve thousand dollars a year.

1373
01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:01.159
That's a lot of go to a
family hours a month just for real estate

1374
01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:04.640
taxes. I mean, you know, you have to be making two three

1375
01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:12.199
hundred thousand hours a year in California
to afford even a minimum lifestyle. And

1376
01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:17.880
obviously that's not the case in Ohio
or Pennsylvania, or at most anyplace else

1377
01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:21.720
the tame in john Cox. You're
not talking about a place on the Pacific

1378
01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:26.720
Ocean. We're not talking about a
place in a gated community with a golf

1379
01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:31.560
course. No, no, no, this is inland. Frankly, most

1380
01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:35.680
people in California live an hour and
a half two hours away from where they

1381
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:41.399
work because a lot of the businesses
are located near the coast. But you

1382
01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:44.800
can't afford a place near the coast, so you're driving an hour and a

1383
01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:47.000
half each way. Think about that, and not only that, bill,

1384
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:53.600
the cost of gasoline in California is
six hours a gallon right now. It's

1385
01:49:53.640 --> 01:50:01.359
almost twice what you're paying in Ohio. Why because of special blends and special

1386
01:50:01.439 --> 01:50:09.199
blends, by the way, environmental
blends that have almost zero impact on the

1387
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:13.560
world's pollution. You know, these
politicians out here make a big deal about

1388
01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:17.239
how oh my god, California is
leading the world on this. California's pollution

1389
01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:23.760
bill is less than one percent of
the world's pollution. And these differences,

1390
01:50:23.800 --> 01:50:29.399
that little differences in gasoline blends make
a difference of maybe one tenth of one

1391
01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:34.119
tenth of one percent of that.
So you're meanwhile, China and India are

1392
01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:41.000
putting up cold fire power plants like
nobody's business. But these politicians out here

1393
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:45.560
make it seem like they're saving the
whole world. It's a real problem.

1394
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:49.000
And again, it's a real problem
trying to make a go of life in

1395
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:54.560
the Golden State. Well, we
got a run. But Gavin Newso,

1396
01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:59.279
the governor has in the nation the
worst made him as president? Oh my

1397
01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:03.920
god, can you imagine him taking
California principles to the entire nation. With

1398
01:51:04.079 --> 01:51:10.439
homelessness and out of housing difficulties,
no water, public skills that suck,

1399
01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:15.399
you can't get an education ramp,
and crime taxes through the roof gasoline six

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01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.159
dollars a gallon. That's the guy
that's got to become the next president.

1401
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:23.560
He's done great work. What happens
in California, what happened to christ That's

1402
01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:26.880
the guy we got to put in
charge. That is a joke. That's

1403
01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.119
that is a joke. And you
know what also is a joke is our

1404
01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:33.720
Congress Bill. And I want to
emphasize that people can go to hearthepeople dot

1405
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:40.479
Org. I am in this book
talking about a way to reform our Congress.

1406
01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:43.560
It's what we should be doing in
California. It's what we should be

1407
01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:46.880
doing all across the nation. We
should we should get the media and get

1408
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:53.880
the big money out of politics.
Here the people does that by subdividing every

1409
01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:59.920
congressional district into one hundred little tiny
districts, and the one hundred people who

1410
01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:03.920
were elected in these little tiny,
you know, community districts, they select

1411
01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:09.800
the congressman to go to Washington.
Good. The upshot of this is you

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01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:15.399
get the money out. The only
reason that our politicians are owned by these

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special interests because they have to spend
millions to get elected. And we got

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to get rid of that now.
Name of the book is Newsom's Nightmare,

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written by John Cox. I wish
you and yours nothing but the best.

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And John, once again, thank
you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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Thank you, John, thank you, Bill. Get it. Let's

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continue with more Bill cunning in the
Great American Live with you every Sunday Night,

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Billy cunning in the Great American,
thank you for listening to this glorious

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Sunday night. And if I was
Gavin Newsom, I don't debate Ron to

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Santus anymore. That was a heavy
why fight. I would have been stopped.

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That was sad. You can't defend
the inofensible. You can't defend poop

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sheets, you can't defend massive lawlessness, you can't defend massive homelessness, you

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can't defend a completely dysfunctional public education
system. None of that works. And

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so I hope more and more of
the American people figure what the Democratic Blue

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Party is doing for you, doing
at you and against you, and not

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for you. Thanks for listening.
We'll do it again next Sunday night.

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Bill Cunningham, the Great American,
with you every Sunday Night,