WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.320 This episode contains graphic or explicit content that may be disturbing, violent, or 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:11.359 sexual in nature. Listener discretion is advised. You're in the place where mysteries 3 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:20.440 and the missing meet. We're conspiracies lurk around every corner. Welcome to the 4 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:29.199 deep dark Truth. Welcome back to the deep dark Truth. I'm Mikey, 5 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:36.719 I'm I'm Chip. And that went surprisingly well for somebody recording that isn't me 6 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:41.880 fantastic rude. It always goes exactly as planned when I do it. I'm 7 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.479 going to be covering something today that I don't think either of you have heard 8 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:50.320 much about or anything about. But I think everyone has heard about Jeffrey Epstein 9 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:57.799 accused being sex trafficking on girls, and I'm mysterious. I've been probably pause 10 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.560 a future most get a cut back to just Jeffrey Epstein. Uh, well, 11 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:10.640 we all we knew is that it was called Fox Island. So both 12 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.560 me and Chip has assumed that the island is just named Fox Island, where 13 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:19.799 there's very cute foxes all over this island. Maybe it's a cryptid fox. 14 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.359 Maybe there it's a whole bunch of fox murderers that if you come on their 15 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:30.280 island they eat you did not was not mentally prepared to talk about. So 16 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:37.480 let me just readjust my expectations really quick. And we're breathing in. This 17 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:42.719 is so much more disappointment, and we're breathing out some pictures of foxes to 18 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:48.840 look at while we record. I think that'll make it more upseting. So, 19 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:53.959 you know, trafficking young girls, mysterious private island, Little James Island. 20 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.400 Yeah, you know, we've all at least been exposed to that in 21 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.480 some degree. But pity you haven't probably heard as a connection to some Internet 22 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:07.479 detectives to a very similar island with an uncanny familiar story right here in our 23 00:02:07.520 --> 00:02:13.719 home state MO in Michigan. Yeah, so today we'll be diving into the 24 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:19.280 deep dark truth about Fox Island in Lake Michigan. Fox Islands are uninhabited and 25 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.360 consists of North and South Fox Island, approximately seventeen miles northwest of Cathead Point 26 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:30.000 near the peninsula, and ten miles southwest of Beaver Island. Give me nowhere 27 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.039 on the hand the leland. A peninsula is like when we went to Sleeping 28 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.439 Bear right above, like where we're saying traverse, there's a peninsula that goes 29 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:42.919 out. It's kind of where we went to Marty's vineyard. Yeah, can 30 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:46.319 these three little islands form a little archipelago? But for this podcast, we're 31 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.479 going to be discussing North Fox Island, which is only two miles wide and 32 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.439 only one mile long. It is currently owned by the State of Michigan and 33 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:59.400 is part of the Beaver Island State Wildlife Research Area. Now, let's go 34 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.840 back in time to the nineteen seventies to see what was secretly going on North 35 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:07.960 Fox Island. Don Epstein and we're in the seven. It's just a comparison 36 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:12.319 because of the similarities. That's why I was bringing up Epstein because it's very 37 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.400 similar in that he had a private island that he owned. The similarities on 38 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:20.919 canny. North Fox Island was purchased by a millionaire in former Michigan Air National 39 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.479 Guard airman named Francis D. Sheldon in nineteen sixty when he outbid the State 40 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:29.879 of Michigan. According to the Detroit Free Press, the state offered three thousand, 41 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:32.400 five hundred dollars to an elderly widow who owned the island. He would 42 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:37.560 pay her twenty thousand dollars, claiming that he wanted isolation. I bet he 43 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:39.599 did well. He got it, and the first thing that he would build 44 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.199 on this island was an airstrip. There's not enough room for more than just 45 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.719 an airstrip. You've taken up the whole island. It is pretty big. 46 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.680 Let me just give you a picture of this airstrip. It doesn't even run 47 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:57.199 a third of this island. And the airstrip obviously has to be pretty decently 48 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:03.240 long. So this is the island, and the airstrip is built for like 49 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:09.960 normal aircraft landing, not like probably commercial or anything like that. But a 50 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.879 little background. Sheldon was a descendant of Russell Alger, a lumber baron in 51 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.040 Michigan, a governor of Michigan, a secretary of War. He would be 52 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:24.800 described in nineteen seventy five, so the Detroit Free Press would describe as having 53 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.040 a hefty trust fund, a Yale degree, and a master's from Wayne State 54 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.399 University. He would be interviewed and would speak about the hard work that would 55 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:35.519 into Fox Island and how you learn what silence means. He also stated that 56 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:39.279 when it came to tax season, he knew that he would be crucified for 57 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:44.160 the private island. Yeah. Launching officially in nineteen seventy five, Brother Paul's 58 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.519 Nature Camp was established. It would be a charitable program that brought children to 59 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.000 the island and summer to experience true Michigan nature, as well as counseling, 60 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:56.199 tutoring, temporary lodging, boarding, retreats, and emergency care for runaways. 61 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.920 Before we get to what happens, this is just a PSA for every single 62 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.399 well parent that listens to our show. Do not send your kids anywhere. 63 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.240 Do not send your kids to a boot camp. Do not send them to 64 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:13.560 anywhere were they're going to stay and live there for more than three weeks. 65 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:15.720 You do not know who has access to your children. And there are so 66 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:21.680 many tales of abuse coming out of different camps and religious organization camps. Stop 67 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:27.079 I second this. Yeah, I could read my report, but we all 68 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.800 know it's bullshit. It would eventually be discovered that this was not the only 69 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.480 thing happening on this island or had anything to do with this island. So 70 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:41.399 let's meet another. Gerald Richards was a Catholic school gym teacher aspiring politician who 71 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.920 performed as a magician on the side. I don't think Catholicism allows for that. 72 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.759 I didn't write this I didn't make this up, sir. I do 73 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:54.959 actually think that sleight of hand magic does not count as like witchcraft magic. 74 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:59.360 But where did he get that cart wasn't there a minute ago? Slight of 75 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:03.920 hand? There is a actual thing that the magicians are doing versus trying to 76 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:11.519 manifest something and quote unquote calling another deity year blah blah blah. You're not 77 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:16.040 invoking anything else, if that makes sense this. Gerald Richards was basically tasked 78 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:20.800 with luring children to Fox Island, including his own students, promise of hiking, 79 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:25.199 swimming, learning about nature. He would later plead guilty to charge as 80 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.800 the first degree criminal sexual conduct, and would testify about his involvement in Michigan's 81 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.720 pedophile community and also that Brothers Paul was just a front for victimizing children as 82 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:39.240 well as evasion of taxes. Before his arrest in July of nineteen seventy six, 83 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:44.879 police records would reel that he contacted and Ward Sheldon, who promptly disappeared, 84 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.120 was sentenced to twenty years. I just wanted to hear about Foxes. 85 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.240 I live here, I go to Travers all the time. I go to 86 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:57.079 the Leland Alpenisla all the time. I did not think that this episode would 87 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.040 be this. I didn't know any of this, and I'm a confused as 88 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.240 to why I have not heard about it. There's more, and after this 89 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:10.079 episode you're going to be asking even more questions. But they weren't the only 90 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:15.759 two men in on this ring shucking dire Grossman was a wealthy science teacher at 91 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:21.959 Harvey School, and Adam Starchild, which was a convicted fraudster alias. He 92 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.240 was an offshore accounts expert as well as a former Boy Scout Assistant Scout Master, 93 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.439 but his real name was Malcolm McConaughey. He was also accused of helping 94 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:35.600 Sheldon and in this case he was to create shell companies including the Phony Church 95 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:41.879 of New Revelation and the Ocean Living Institute offshore. You know, shell companies 96 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:47.000 to basically evade taxes and treat all this all as if it's nonprofit and community 97 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:51.600 and helping community. Jay Ruben Appleman wrote a book called The kill Jar. 98 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.120 It is a product of ten years of investigation to the Oakland Company child killings. 99 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.959 Have you guys heard of those before? Apps? Absolutely well, we'll 100 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.240 cover the Oakland County child killer at some point on this podcast. And this 101 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:11.040 is a great segue into peaking our listeners into that. So in his book 102 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:16.079 he covers North Fox Island and their connection between the two, and it is 103 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.959 widely accepted by a good majority now that the two are directly linked together. 104 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.319 According to him, North Fox Island operated as a subscription service centered on the 105 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:30.800 production of child pornographers and sexual abuse on boys seven years old to sixteen year 106 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.480 old in exchange for contributions to the Brothers Paul nonprofit. The camp. Sponsors 107 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.879 could receive pornography shot on the island, or even visit the island themselves if 108 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.879 they were particularly wealthy or well connected. A Michigan State Police report would reveal 109 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.120 an underage victim who claimed Sheldon himself tried to molest him multiple times and reported 110 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:52.879 fighting him off those times as well. Further, after his arrest, Richards 111 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.519 would reveal all and in a Traverse City Record Eagle reported that in nineteen seventy 112 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.480 seven, three hundred sponsors donated to Sheldon's charity and received child pornography for their 113 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:07.639 tax deductible contributions. I hope every single one of those three hundred people were 114 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.559 prosecuted, but I somehow doubt it. I doubt it as well, but 115 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.480 I do not know the answer. Also in that year, they discovered that 116 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.960 Sheldon was also a sponsor for the Boys Farm in Winchester, Tennessee, which 117 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:24.279 was run by Claudia's Vermile, an episcopal priest and also known as Father Bud. 118 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.000 He was also charged with molestation in possession of underage pornography. Furthermore, 119 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:33.519 and even more disgusting the record, Eadle would uncover a letter from Grossman, 120 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.559 who was his offshore account's expert, basically to Sheldon, outlining how a person 121 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:43.919 could set up lucrative organizations similar to the Brothers Paul in their respective states. 122 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.840 Boys Farm as a name just sense a little too am, doesn't it. 123 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:52.360 And Father Bud was the nickname of the priest that was in charge of this 124 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.480 boy's farm. Nobody thought anything of this, They wouldn't do. You want 125 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.960 to know why giving yourself a nickname makes you very relatable to people, and 126 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:07.960 they're less likely to suspect you Father Bud showing up and talking to your kid, 127 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.960 having conversations with your kids in front of you that make them seem like 128 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.039 they're a mentor figure and they're just Father Bud or Father Nick or father, 129 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:26.279 whatever the fuck nothing, it's very rude. It's a very casual relationship. 130 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:28.279 Instead of raising a red flag, it kind of does the opposite, like, 131 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:33.279 oh, they're really getting down on my kid's level and trying to relate 132 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:39.120 to them and bring them to God. Yeah, yeah, he's not doesn't 133 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.360 have a stick up his ass. Oh So, without getting too much into 134 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.440 the Oakland Comedy child killings, which occurred in nineteen seventy six nineteen seventy seven, 135 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:50.799 a lot of people will say, well, there's not really connection because 136 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:56.080 this was after Sheldon was already had run and disappeared and fled from Michigan. 137 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.080 The connection that they made was with Chris Bush, a very well connected and 138 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.639 well off son of ah Lee Bush, a financial director for GM over four 139 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.639 decades in Europe and in US, very very well off, and he is 140 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:16.480 leave to be the Oakland County child killer, right and hear more about him 141 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:24.320 on our episode on the Oakland County Child Killer coming eventually. Yeah, when 142 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.120 we cover that, we can also cover into more about how they're much more 143 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:33.000 connected. But in this concept, I just want to kind of paint a 144 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:37.440 picture that this was a large, lucrative operation with a community involved in on 145 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:43.559 it. You sure have You have six to think that it didn't go past 146 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.080 just Fox Island and just that one city in Michigan and that one city in 147 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:54.399 Tennessee is crazy. And I'm sure that some of them that may have gotten 148 00:11:54.399 --> 00:12:00.480 started through this ring or operated extensively or inextensively or whatever, may still be 149 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.360 around to this day. And that's a scary thought. That's a very scary 150 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:09.120 thought. I would bet money out yet a text credit. So Sheldon was 151 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.080 never arrested. He fled to France in nineteen seventy six. He would marry 152 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:20.600 right away to Ailien Gobie in order to obtain French citizenship, and he would 153 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.440 then move to Amsterdam to live out his life unhindered by the US or any 154 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.840 police involvement or anything like that. He would die in nineteen ninety six from 155 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.000 unknown causes. Wait, so we do we know that he actually even died 156 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.639 then? And they never found room said that Amsterdam police investigated and searched and 157 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:45.720 did say that he died from unknown causes, But where his remains is not 158 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.159 known today, not known publicly. I was gonna say, so this might 159 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.360 be a situation where he no longer had family or anything in Amsterdam or personally 160 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:58.039 personally did not want anyone to know where his body would rest at. Yeah, 161 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.679 but I feel like Amsterdam police another government agency questioned it, they would 162 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.720 just tell that it said that they investigated. I don't know if it was 163 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.600 investigating into his cause of death or like things attached to this, which probably 164 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.720 not attached to this, probably just cause of death, to be honest, 165 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:18.080 they probably didn't even know. Actually in the year at one we're talking about 166 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.840 there, they're setting something up before the age of the Internet. So they 167 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:28.039 have figured out a way how to distribute child pornography before the internet exists, 168 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:35.720 to the sharing of interagency information across countries. When they didn't know where he 169 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.759 went, they just never would have known, Like those agencies never would have 170 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:46.279 spoken until eventually somebuddy finds out where he was living, where he went, 171 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.320 etc. And just the chances of that happening really were not good before the 172 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.600 age of the Internet, and like central databases in the way that we have 173 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:01.919 them now. It's just the unknown cause of death that is really sticking in 174 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.080 my teeth. What do you mean they investigated and decided on unknown You know, 175 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.320 you're always saying I'm bringing the show down, but then Mikey keeps coming 176 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:13.320 in with these like punches to the jaw. Mikey normally isn't like this, 177 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.799 though, but you are. So I have done zero pedophile episodes. I 178 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.720 found something that Mo didn't know about that I know she'd be like, what, 179 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.159 Yeah, I can't believe that. I've never heard about the link to 180 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:33.600 like the Oakland County child killer. Yeah, so that's Fox Island and not 181 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:41.639 cute foxes. What to say? So what eventually happened to this island now 182 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.559 the state of Michigan and it's a research see is it? I don't know. 183 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.360 Did you say how they were discovered to tattled It was a series of 184 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.720 events that went, oh, I'm pleaning to France. Now. The guy 185 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.360 who gave him a heads up, right, they were investigating him, Jim 186 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.080 Jim Teacher, right right right. I didn't also mention this, but the 187 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.600 guy MO was talking about, Anne Sheldon, was a big brother. That's 188 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:13.919 also how he funneled boys over in there. And there's also documentation of him 189 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.879 just taking boys all over the world with him, not just Fox Island. 190 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:24.960 Already got a private island for your evil Why why elsewhere? So the island 191 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:31.519 was purchased by a real estate investor named David Johnson in nineteen ninety four for 192 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.799 two point two million. It was bought for one play three million, and 193 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.799 then by time they sold whose wasn't until nineteen ninety four. I'm going to 194 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.320 guess it was his because it wasn't uncovered until what nineteen ninety six, So 195 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:46.919 I'm gonna guess he had possession of the island, he sold the island when 196 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.679 before he fleed, I'm going to guess. Let me. Let me try 197 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.559 and get some property records. All I know is all three hundred of those 198 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.919 sponsors should have been prosecuted. And we should know about this, mall as 199 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:02.279 children who were up here, we should know about this. We don't. 200 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.200 That's said. I do think that when we were kids, like I think, 201 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.000 I was probably a thirteen or so before I knew about the Oakland County 202 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:14.879 child killer. Also, I was about twelve when I found out. So 203 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.759 there is a local case where a mother killed all of her children. My 204 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.639 dad not only went to school with those children, but my dad was at 205 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:27.000 the scene of the crime. He was a paperboy and he delivered a paper 206 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:32.159 most likely minutes after these kids were killed when he was a little kid. 207 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.559 I didn't know about that either until I was about twelve. So I think 208 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.279 a lot of these things my parents. They taught me stranger danger, but 209 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:44.679 they didn't go too hard, like you're gonna get murdered anytime you walk out 210 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.639 of the door. I did get the talks about various things. But also 211 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:53.039 my parents probably didn't even know about this, to be honest, because I've 212 00:16:53.080 --> 00:17:00.440 always been interested in true crime and things like that, but my parents weren't. 213 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:07.279 Mostly my mom also watched unsolved mysteries, but she wasn't interested in the 214 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.640 same way that I was following cases, and she wouldn't start a true crime 215 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:18.960 podcast right exactly. She cared because they were children, But if it wasn't 216 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:26.400 highly publicized in on like the regular six o'clock news, especially before the age 217 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.599 of our twenty four hour news cycle, prior to the O. J. 218 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.920 Simpson case, I don't think she would have known about it. Everyone knew 219 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.799 about the Oakland County child killer, but it was just a different level as 220 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:44.279 on every newspaper in the Tri County area. So I'm trying to get the 221 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:48.920 property ownership records, but I don't have parcel numbers, So it's just not 222 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:55.480 giving me when I would like a weird Other layer to this is that Fox 223 00:17:55.559 --> 00:18:00.519 Island, Beaver Island, a lot of the islands in the Great Lay they 224 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:07.400 have indigenous names, have rich indigenous culture that is linked to them and how 225 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.319 they got their names, like Sleeping Bear Dunes, the story of Dead Bears. 226 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.759 Like there's all of these like rich histories that are associated and for some 227 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:22.160 rich person to just come in and basically buy an island and then turn it 228 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.759 into camp pedophile. I know that that's not the most important aspect of the 229 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:33.400 story, but it's such a perversion of that cultural history. It's a real 230 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:40.759 microcosm macrocosm thing. Yeah, this man was invested. He bought in nineteen 231 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:45.000 sixty. He put like ten to fifteen years of his own like hard labor 232 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:49.119 developing this island. Yeah, like it was something that he had obviously thought 233 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.319 out, obsessed over. How do I do this, how do I make 234 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.480 this, and how can I profit from it? How do I be a 235 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.680 sick fuck and also profit from that? Yeah, And like he was in 236 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:07.680 the public eye, so it seems like he most likely before he was caught 237 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:12.279 or could be caught sold it off, sold it to this real estate mogul, 238 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:18.759 who then sells it back to the State of Michigan. That could be 239 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:23.759 incorrect, but it seems like through various documents that we could find through Leland, 240 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:29.119 Ol County, etc. Etc. That that was most likely the events 241 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:33.440 because of the timeline of when it was purchased by this real estate mogul. 242 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:38.519 So he's probably trying to get money. Marada currently owns most of this island. 243 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:41.240 There are bits of it that are a State of Michigan, creating the 244 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:45.000 exact same thing that Mike he was reading about the State of Michigan buying it 245 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:51.839 back from this mogul. I think the State of Michigan reserves some places and 246 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.079 then sold off. They'll sell off their assets of various things that they aren't 247 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.160 going to turn into like state parts, so I think that they probably then 248 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:03.920 sold pieces of it. State of Michigan owns the coast and which does make 249 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.279 sense because there's a lot of islands that they own the entirety, but they 250 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:15.599 also own coastlines. They turn those into public access so you can launch boats 251 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:21.400 and get to and front places or ferries will come, especially these islands that 252 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:26.799 are in the middle like boy Blanc or Mackinaw Island. That are islands that 253 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:32.319 people have to access them. People live on them, so there needs to 254 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:37.400 be some amount of public access and the state usually owns those public access points. 255 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:42.640 Well, thank you for the depression on top of my seasonal depression. 256 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.640 I didn't think that this is what this was going to be, but I 257 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.920 am glad to know about it. Later, when we talk about the Oakland 258 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:55.839 County child killer, have this as a point to refer back to. How 259 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.960 do you stop a episode so depressing? We don't know until next time. 260 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:04.079 I'm Mouth, I'm Trip, and I'm Mikey. I am not the most 261 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:10.240 depressing person on this podcast by far. You just listened to the Deep Dark 262 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:15.839 Truth podcast. See you next time, and remember your local cryptids want to 263 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:17.799 meet you.