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Monday thirteenth, twenty twenty four. I'm Sean the Fort Chopp Forker over,
there's Vance Nesbit below me as Henry May, and down to the bottom square
is Matt Arner James Baker Off tonight, and my goodness, guys, we
have just come back from a hillacious weekend at OBC and I mean hilatious in
a good way. Man. Did we have a good time? Vance go
ahead there, buddy, obc Ohio Bigfoot Conference. It was well worth the
trip out there for me personally. And look, even though I've been involved
in this whole genre for probably ten years now, and you know, Sean
and myself have been doing stuff, there was so many moments that were just
so outstanding for me personally. To have great conversations with doctor Jeff Meldrum,
to have conversations with Cliff Berrickman, and to have conversations with Don Keating and
of course Don is the one that really kicked this whole thing into the action,
and to have these personal conversations without it being you know, any kind
of Hollywood production or whatever this is just a private conversation with all of us.
It was so fantastic, and of course, you know, we appreciated
the fact that you know, Jeff and Tanya Thomas came out and shared a
lot of fun and adventurous moments with us, going out in the wilds and
going on a hike that we did not expect to go on. But man,
did we have a fantastic time talking with so many people that came to
our booth as we were doing our live broadcast, and to interact with them
and to give them more information as to who we are. And so many
people knew who we were already, and to interact with them face to face.
That is the most rewarding thing of all. Forget the dollars. It
had nothing to do with the money. It had to do with having these
face to face conversations. And you know, Sean, I would let you
go on with who our neighbors were to the left of us that shared so
much information with you about certain topics. Oh good god, I mean,
just to piggyback off what you were saying. Vance just a great weekend,
had Eric Altman. Good to see you too, buddy, Eric Altman.
Of course, him and Tom Miehawk brought over some footprints that had been cast
the week previous. We're going to get Eric and Tom on here to talk
about those footprints. And if you you know interested, Eric was on Bigfoot
Beyond with Cliff and Bobo this week. That episode just dropped. Fantastic episode.
Absolutely, go tune in. You get to learn a lot about Eric,
my mentor a guy who fostered me along and really taught me a lot.
And what made me the most proud going into this these sighting, these
casting I had nothing to do with the cast, guys, that was all
Eric. But Eric followed the protocol he had been preaching for years and what
I believe were the best prints that have ever come out of Pennsylvania and that
they upset some people, but they literally and we did a fit. You
can go back into the archive and look, we did a fifteen minute broadcast.
That's all the time we could do. Guys. I'm sorry we were
busy, but I think the biggest thing that I took away is a privilege
from that was the fact that Eric and Tom showed up to Ohio Bigfoot Conference
and the first people that they went to was Sean Forker, and they had
this tupperware container with three beautiful cast prints. They showed them to Sean and
myself first, and I was one of the first ones that got to hold
the Prince of my end before they even went to Cliff Brickman and to doctor
Meldrum. I was so privilege by that fact. And of course Jeff Thomas
happened to be at our booth at the same time, and he's like,
Wow, this is the most impressive evidence I have seen out of Pennsylvania in
the last ten years. And I mean, they're remarkable. Prince And like
I said, we get Eric on, we'll talk about them. Do want
to give a shout out to Cryptid Creatures reborn but big fans of ours over
on X Thank you. He got a glass of whiskey. I'm sure Vance
has one there himself, just a little bit a little red deck riviera,
a little free promotion. So good to see you, Jay, Thank you
for coming on to the podcast tonight, Jenny and Jamie. Just great to
have you guys here, our friends, the Kingts. Missed you guys.
Hella missed you guys this weekend. Just trying to do a roll call there
a little bit before he went on, But the folks sitting next to us
right to our left was from the Forest Edge. Her name was Jamie.
And you want to talk about somebody that kind of lifted my spirits and me
going over the weekend, it was her because as we are getting drained by
talking to so many people, not that it's a bad thing, folks,
we do love talking to you, but understand that it is a tar it
is it is a process for USh. You know, we're talking to a
lot of people. Her energy man was just fantastic and I got to talk
with her all day long, and so did you Vance and folks, she
as a girl got to see the Minnesota Iceman three times. And we're going
to talk to Henry. We're going to do a good episode of the Minnesota
Iceman, by the way, because we do. It's I don't think it
gets a lot of discussion points today, but a good topic for us to
go back on. But Henry, what was interesting is she remembers seeing two
different versions of the Minnesota Iceman, two from what she believed to be the
original Minnesota Iceman and then one which was a replica. Now she's an artist
and her mind is focused on details and folks. She's a great artist by
the way. Her and her husband good people and like the thing she told
us. I'm going to get her on the show to talk to us about
it. And that's one of the magnets she made. Oddly enough, Wow
fighter prawl pose, which I said, this is this was meant to be.
He're sitting next to us like we didn't have an assigned table. And
we do have to thank Mark the Worst Brother for that nice little Sasquatch Experience
number one podcast sign. That was pretty cool, great way to get our
spirits going and lifted. It really was just a great time and I can't
say enough about it. But Matt, I'll tell you, Yeah, the
craziest part of the weekend, and he just disappeared on us for a second,
was the amount of Henry Made groupies no show. Well, yes,
Henry May groupies were out in mass everybody coming to ask where their lovable,
affable Henry May is. And so we've decided that if we can't get Henry
at an event, we're going to get a cardboard cutout yes of Henry there
so people can come get their picture taken with them. I wouldn't be fantastic.
Yeah that is. I'm just going to take him off the screen until
he comes back. Not not just so folks aren't looking at a blank spot.
But I had a great conversation post conversation here he goes with Darby Orchitt,
somebody I never met before. Had a wonderful conversation with him and Cliff,
and I was just kind of a fly on the wall in that conversation
and listening to these guys talk, and I got an opportunity to ask her,
how the hell did you get involved? Actually I didn't say hell,
I said F word. We had to involved in this, and we're going
to get Darby on the show. I know he's been another podcast, but
I yea he did, and good guy. I really like him. I
think he's going to be a game changer in our field. I didn't get
to talk to doctor Meldrium at all over the weekend. I didn't know.
Kind of stinks, but but I had a nice, you know, maybe
twenty minute conversation with him. But to just reel back a little. But
with the whole Henry groupie thing, Matt, you were missed, Oh boy,
you were missed, And so let's try to maybe make this happen in
twenty twenty five. Oh, definitely be fantastically. Yeah, and plus we
got we got monsterfests coming up too. We do have small town monster Fest.
And I'm not making any promises, but I know somebody else who's trying
their damnedest to be there, somebody else. But well, we won't make
any formal announcements until we're until we're closer, but man, you know.
And second of all, like, aside from the conference being fantastic, all
the speakers great, great conversations with Cliff, with doctor Orchid, with Matt
Pruit. I get to spend a great amount of time talking with Matt,
a hell of a good brain on on Bigfoot. Like, and I'm sitting
here just guys, I've been around a long time. We're going on thirty
years. I've been in Bigfoot research talk and listening to Matt and sitting there
next to Cliff listening. Did Cliff get pissed as he's reading an old episode
of an old digest of the Skeptical Inquirer about how they're getting things wrong like
this this magazine was published so long ago. And that's passion, you know,
And that's a contagious passion. And I really think that rather you've been
in this field for five minutes, you've been in it for fifty years.
There is a passion that ties us all together. And being with the group
of like minded individuals and just being able to spend that time to collaborate and
discuss. There's power in that, and there's an energy you get that really
kind of reignited my passion for this research. I mean, and like not
to be crass, but you know, we're going balls deep, like we
are really amp and it up. We've got some great guests that are going
to be lined up to come on the program. More talking heads as you
know, talking to people. People like what we do. They know,
we talk about the science of it, we talk about you know, we
have a good time. But we have a lot of experience on this show
and that's what we share and that's what sets us apart from you know,
everyone else. So to more of this and you know, I'm only looking
forward to all future with you guys. We got some great stuff on the
horizon, yes sir, And we had a really good location at the Lodge
that we picked well. At first, Sean and I were like, yeah,
too sure, this is really the spot we want to be in.
It first to be the gold spot. It really was. It was the
golden spot to be in because as people come in to the lodge, they
look to their left. Okay, there's nowhere to go because there's a wall.
Let's go to the right. And of course, you know, that
took them right to us, and we kicked everything off for them as far
as the whole genre of what they were looking at. And you know,
we did a live bit and I mentioned to Sean in our live broadcast that
we did the first half of the day, everybody came in with their bigfoot
shirts on and they're all enthusiastic and got it. Okay, this is why
you're here. The second half of the day, people were coming in in
their casual and Nike wear and just and I don't I think a lot of
these people were really curious about what is this whole bigfoot thing if they did
not have an experience themselves, And they were learning so much as they went
through the entire venue of what this whole Ohio Bigfoot conference was. And I
think so many of them left so much more enthused than when they walked in
the door, and that was the big accomplishment. Brian, our executive producer,
Brian Corbin asked the they announced the actual attendance at OBC. Well,
here's the deal. Three of those VIPs were us, and not one of
us were able to make it down to listen to any of the speakers.
We had a plan, okay, we had a plan because we wanted to
be able to talk about the speaker's presentations to everybody as kind of a recap.
We couldn't make it down. We were busy, and I regret that
we probably should have been a little bit more organized. But Jay says,
there are four hundred and twenty five VIPs alone. That's a standout attendance right
there. That's a pretty good number. I mean I heard numbers being bounced
around from Mark de Worth. It just in the volume coming through the door
for the entire weekend twenty two, there is just two three thousand people walk
through those doors. And can I say one thing else that makes that more
astounding to me is that you have to on purpose drive to the lodge.
You can't just stumble upon it and just oh I didn't know this was happening
this weekend. You know, oh blah, la la la. You have
to drive like it's like twelve miles from that Ohio State Park side into the
park to the lodge. Yeah, you have to go there on purpose.
So that means three to five thousand people on purpose went to the event to
see it. And for whoever they went to see, I'm glad they did
because we really appreciated the interaction and the traffic from the people that came.
We talked to so many people, got to meet our super fan, Jr.
Cor She's our number one fan. We told her she's official, so
nobody else can be number one. The rest of these can be number two
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slip Berrickman, that's the philosophy of all of us that was at the Ohio
Bigfoot, Think Bigfoot last. Eliminate everything else, but think Bigfoot last.
And then what you're left with after sifting through it like you sift, you
know, for gold. Let's see what the remnants are afterwards, and it's
pretty it is very profound to find some specific evidence. They say, hmm,
okay, I'm thinking Bigfoot last, but I don't know where else to
go with this Bigfoot. Yes, and you know it's great and again it's
another plug for Bigfoot and Beyond. I just listened to that episode with Eric
and that was their their thoughts when they came in and you know, hey,
could this be could this be beer? Could this be human? Could
be? Could this be this? And you know it really it really took
them a lot of analysis and then to see that there was a left foot
and right foot that they were able to get. So that was just an
amazing and amazing fine. So you know what I found really cool, Sean,
is when they brought us the cast Prince first before bringing it to anybody
else. There's still leaves and debris in the cast that were pulling out of
it. And I'm like, this is so cool because you look at it.
I'm holding it, I'm looking at it closely, and of course,
you know Cliff, he brings out his high intensity flashlight and he's looking at
the print and he's like, you know what, I see dermal ridges here.
I'm like, okay, all bets are off. This is great.
As he's pulling leaves out of the cast that Eric and Tom did not do
yet. They just took the cast, put him in this tupperware and brought
him to us first. And that was such a privilege. It was,
and I'm very appreciative of that because I really enjoyed being able to see them.
Eric had texted me pictures, he sent me messages about the Prince.
Again. Like I said, though, the thing that makes me the most
proud is that there was a protocol initiated that he followed from beginning to end.
And as somebody who appreciates the science and appreciates the research that goes into
this, that's what it was about, right and Hella, damn he made
it just to throw it up there again because long sleeve, short sleeve sweatshirt
and tassels all available. The only thing we didn't get was the far We
decided probably not. Probably not what happened to James water broke. Yes,
Baker is fighting with a water heater this evening and he's not having a good
time. But on assignment's not fun. Our audience wants to know why we're
not here, damn it. I'm not gonna lie to him. And plus
I want them to have that visual of an angry James Baker beating the hell
out of a water heater, getting mad, saying very colorful words, because
honestly, guys, that's uh, that's what's going through my mind right now.
We're creatures. Put a link on our main page. We'll do that.
We'll get the link up there here shortly. Guys. Tonight's shows titled
at the Window Looking in. One of the conversations that Vance and I had
and Baker and I had while we were at the conference is all these reports
of bigfoot looking in windows, and they get curious and as we're sitting there
at the cabin or we're sitting there wondering, you know, there's a lot
of opportunity for us to be observed. Are we always observing them? Or
are they also observing us? So that's kind of the spirit of the conversation
tonight. However, we're so close to that mid show break, I wonder
if we ought to take that now and then come back and get to the
meat and potatoes. Yeah, let's do that. I think let's do that.
We've did it. We did a we did a great recap of OBC
Folks, if you didn't check out the first twenty three minutes of the show
after that, smoke him if you got him. We're going to be right
back right after this. Stay tuned. Who Steve a symbo? Bigfoot and
I actually have a lot in commic. We're both just big guys from the
woods that are just trying not to get our picture taken too much. Lends
up happening a lot anyway. Yeah. Actually, you know the most famous
image of Bigfoot, the one where he's like, you know, looking at
the camera, they got from a video from the sixties. It was totally
debunked, and I was really disappointed to read it, especially because it's said
in there animal motion experts have determined that that's not a real Bigfoot. And
first I'm like, okay, so there could be real ones. Right.
Also, when they're not debunking Bigfoot videos, what are animal motion experts doing?
Ah? Yes, it's all fun and games until the animal motion expert
shows up and then ruins it for everybody. Well, happy Monday night to
you all. This is the Bigfoot bullhorn right here on the Sasquatch Experience.
And speaking of Florida, you know America's fallis in the water. There was
a report from last October out of Union County. Don't ask me where Union
County is because I don't have a map and there is no map posted,
and it wouldn't do anybody any good anyway, since you're listening to this on
a podcast. But the witness states my wife and I were driving, and
no, not my wife. My wife and I were driving home from the
neighboring town of Stark on North County Road two two nine at about eleven forty
five pm, quarter to midnight. As I approached Connor Bridge, I noticed
a black bipedal figure run across the road between my vehicle and the bridge.
The subject was very large and moving extremely fast, taking only two or three
steps to cross the road, and another stepped across the embankment and disappear into
the tree line. As I slowed down to try to get a better look
at what I had just seen, I noticed that there was no game trail
or path in the area. The individual had entered the tree line and the
bushes were still shaking in its wake. Now Here comes the follow up,
or the money shot, as I like to say, from Matt Moneymaker.
You see what I just did there, Matt says, I spoke with the
witness and his wife she did not look up in time to see the figure
running across the road, but both are credible well, of course. The
husband a thirty four year old construction worker and lifelong resident of nearby Rainford.
He and his wife were returning from a run to the walmart in Stark that
would be the city next door. He says that at the time of night,
there may be only one car every twenty minutes or so driving along that
back road. The area is dark at night, and the figure was fifty
to seventy five yards ahead of the vehicle when it ran across. Mark has
fog lights which lit up the figure enough to see its shape clearly, and
that it was dark from to tow He is likely accurate when he says that
the distance was fifty two seventy five yards away. His wife was looking down
at her phone when he said, did you see that? He told her
what he had just seen and tried to describe it to her. The wife
says he definitely was freaked out. He had obviously seen something large and frightening
across the road. There was no thought of turning back to investigate the dark
figure that fled into the trees. I asked the both of them, are
there many deer in the area, and they said, yeah, there's so
many deer at night along back roads like two two nine that you can't drive
much faster than fifty miles per hour. Deer hazards are the reason he installed
those bright fog lights on his vehicle. Final thoughts on that, well,
get your face out of your phone. People, you're missing an awful lot
when you come back. Yeah, it's what the bullhorn is all about.
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in the mind, keep your toes in the mud of your ass. That's
how it goes, Folks, Sasquatch Experience. It's something else. James James
Baker not here tonight vance Nesbit, Matt Arner and Henry has been popping in
and out, so we'll keep us spot warm for him. Tonight's show,
of course, at the window looking in talking about some rather disturbing thoughts that
we've had around bigfoot watching us and guys. It takes me back to reading
Tom Powell's The Local on page one forty four, in the chapter called the
Guardians, I go back to the story of Dora Bradley, and I don't
know if you guys are familiar with this story, ye, And I'll read
a little bit of it paraphrase it so we're not just, you know,
stealing from the source material, even though I did give it, you know,
proper accreditation. Dora Bradley thought everyone had bigfoots in the woods around the
home where they grew up. She certainly did, and she didn't particularly like
it. They never harmed her, they just annoyed her. Bigfoots and snakes
were her childhood enemies. I spoke with Dora Bradley through her husband on two
twenty two, two thousand and two. Door is hearing impaired, and so
must converse on the phone through a person who can hear me and use sign
language to convey to her thoughts and responses. Her husband, Charlie, served
as a go between our conversation. It was a unique interview, So that
in itself is pretty interesting, Like so you have somebody and oftentimes we go
back to think about, you know, is there a reason why Bigfoot select
certain people? And is you know, having an impairment, you know,
a dolling of one sense? Does that enhance other senses? So and I
go back to the folks in the Cook's forest that I you know, the
husband was blind, but he was able right, but they were frequented and
he was able to understand when they were around. Dor explained that she grew
up in an isolated rural household, a household in Montgomery County, Missouri.
She was one of eight children living in a rented two bedroom house outside of
Jonesburg. She often slept by an open window that had no windows screen.
Cornfields and woods surrounded the house she lived in. The limestone topography in that
part of Missouri includes caves. There were caves around her childhood home, some
of which were unmapped in the early nineteen sixties. When she was growing up,
the Bigfoots would sometimes annoy her. The fact that on summer night she
slept near an open window without a screen didn't help. There were several times
she would be awakened in the middle of the night and feel a large,
leathery, hair covered hand on her chest. She knew what it was.
It was one of the bigfoots. She does not like the bigfoots. They
smelled bad and they made her very uneasy. But she also knew, for
many times she saw them that they would not hurt her. And as you
go down through this story, I don't want to read the whole thing,
of course, but she talks about one night when she was seven years old.
She woke up late one summer night. It was a full moon with
a breeze. She was found on a bed made of sticks. I felt
chilly because my back touched a cold cave wall. I felt chilly because my
back touched I saw my brother sitting on a stick bed across from me in
the small cave. I spelled something unpleasant. I watched very hard and realized
it was a dark bigfoot sitting about five feet from me. I saw another
bigfoot digging a hole in the dirt. I picked up it, picked up
the small, dark body of what might have been a dead infant and put
it into the earth. So at some point she was taken from her home
in the middle of the night. Her brother too. My brother stood up
because the bigfoot walked toward us. It picked up my brother and walked away.
I cried in The bigfoot sitting next to me, pulled me closer.
It put my head on its chest. I felt its breast when I pushed
its chest. I thought it tried to nurse me, the way my mother
breastped my baby's sister. I took my head away from its chest and sat
motionlessly on its lap. I saw the other bigfoot come back. I stood
up, and it picked me up. It was like a foot. I
was like a football in its arm. I must admit I enjoyed riding because
the bigfoot took big steps so gracefully. We went across the cornfield from the
woods to my house. The bigfoot dropped me off in our garden and I
looked back. It was halfway across the cornfield in the woods. Think about
that, guys, just think about this. It pulled me out of the
window as if I was a rag doll. Yep, It carried me into
our front yard and went across the other side of the door beside the road.
Like So now I think, you know, this is an incredibly interesting
account because there's repeat visitations here, right, would you call that habituation?
Where where I start to deviate from habituation to this story is habituation has a
tendency to be carried on by the participant that you're trying to actively engage and
keep it. Where in this instant it's a little kid that's just being repeatedly,
repetitively abducted from her window in rural Missouri. Yeah, yeah, that
would be more of a visitation, you know. It's yeah, she's not
doing anything, you know, consciously to have these creatures you know, come
to her. And it may be something subconscious though again being a little kid,
you know that's gonna we always hear stories about them being drawn to children,
So that may be something, especially with with a person that has a
hearing issue. They may have a speech impediment, they may not vocalize the
way you know people that don't that have regular hearing would, so that may
be something that brings them in. But again, she's not doing this,
you know, consciously to say, hey, come on in and take me
to your cave. You know. Then that's a good point, man,
that's a very good point. I think maybe disabilities may I don't know if
you want to put it in the in the category of sympathy, but you
know, it's a curiosity thing. So yeah, I talked to Sean earlier
today about another case because the show is, you know, looking in the
window right there was a story and I believe because I went back to go
to research some of this, I heard this probably at best maybe seven years
ago. And the story goes, if any of if any of our listeners
know what a transom window is, a lot of older homes, both urban
and suburban homes, had transom windows that were put in above the kitchen door.
Now on average kitchen doors stand about six and a half feet tall,
and then above that there was a window and you would have a steel rod
that went to the window and you could crank it open and it would open
from the bottom out at about a forty five degree angle. This was long
before there was you know, air conditioning units put into homes. This was
a way to vent the kitchen from a lot of the heat. And there
was a story that I listened to a husband and wife, and I believe
it was a brother and sister of the husband and wife that were sitting at
a kitchen table in rural America, and if I remember correctly, I believe
it was in Oklahoma, and the owner of the home. He was sitting
at the kitchen table. They're having a nice conversation, and he happened to
look up at the transom window and he saw two eyes, a nose,
and a very large mouth on very dark leathery skin that was kind of hunched
over looking in on them through the transom window. If it's hunched over looking
at them, and the window is already seven feet tall, this thing would
have had to have been eight feet tall looking in on them. And he
kind of freaked out. I mean, he definitely freaked out, but he
didn't want to cause panic to everybody else, but he pointed it out.
He's like, yeah, this, I'm not sure that this is a malevolent
activity. I think it's probably more curiosity. What are these other bipedal creatures
doing that creates so much threat against us? And peering in to watch what
you know, you and myself and everybody else would be doing. In that
type of an environment. But what we see that painted such a picture for
me. What we see through these stories, you know, is a lack
of malevolency, like you say, a very much you know, curiosity,
you know, of these creatures. Now I have another story from out in
rock and Mountain Uncle Ernie. We collected the story from when we did the
presentation up on over the mountain up in Rocking, and he was out in
his cabin one night in the spring playing his banjo, you know, just
jamming, having a good time, and as he looked up to you know,
a window in the cabin, he sees these two gigantic eyes in this
huge, large head looking at him in the window, and it's just kind
of there, mesmerized by him, and he just locks eyes with it,
and he just keeps playing his banjo. He goes down and he looks at
his banjo, looks back up and it's gone right. But he had this
encounter that just left him completely stunned that wow, you know, I just
had this intense moment, you know, this eye to eye with this creature.
He described these very large dark eyes and but never felt a sense of
dread or worry or fear. He was just amazed as he's playing his banjo
with this thing staring at at him and his cabin. But do you get
the sense that the fact that it just may be the curiosity of here's music
being played on a band show and there's like no aggressive ability. It's this
curiosity of what's happening, and maybe it wants to learn what it is that
humans are doing. Stepping back to Dora Bradley's stories, like, I really
think Dora was being if the story's true, let's say that she was being
almost used as a filler to replace this grief, this grief object and this
repeat visitations. I mean, here's another story, guys, from Dora.
Another time we had some sightings a big foot in our cornfield, in our
backyard, but very dark to see. We smelled them. On the night
of my graduation, I went home and cried because I lived in boarding school
for the death for twelve years and it became my second home. I missed
it. Everyone slept, but I cried quietly in my bed. I saw
bigfoot coming and sitting by my window. My bed was now away from the
window. I stopped crying fast and closed my eyes hard because I did not
want the Bigfoot to bother me anymore. And this was the last time I
saw Bigfoot, so you know, she may have aged out from its interest
or because she wasn't close to the wall. Now she has moved away,
it had been a lot more of a well scenario. And then later on
she goes to say that her brother had details and he was very quiet about
it. He didn't offer any up, but he did tell his brother's wife,
or he told his wife about things. And you know, just to
think about that, like putting yourself in the position of this child and being
repetitively taken from your home in the middle of the night, these things showing
up and watching you whenever they wanted to, being in your cornfield, and
you could just you know, this is crazy crypto creatures. Ask how insane
story? How long ago was it? Well, she recanted the story to
Tom Palell in two thousand and two, so you know, depending on how
old she was, you're thinking maybe twenty years prior to it, right,
or more. So you could be talking about stories from the seventies to eighties.
But when we go back and we read listen to some of the details
of this story, you know, being taken taken to a cave, the
stick betting. You know, we you know the nests that we see from
the Olympic project, you know, are they similar construction? Could we get
door to look at these? Now when identify any of those similar structures?
Right? Burying they're dead, right, there's an eyewitness encounter of their dead
being buried. Like, there's some great details in this that if these stories
had happened, and the fact that they were on in two thousand and two,
before this hoopola, before the Bigfoot craze really started, we didn't put
this information out there, folks. This information really wasn't readily available. So
what adds a little bit more credence to this story for me is, though
it seems fantastic, there's a lot of details in that story now that are
kind of you know, commonplace knowledge that weren't in two thousand and two,
right right, Matt thoughts on that, Oh, we also have Henry back,
Henry, Hey, we do. My laptop is screwed. I think
it fell. It fell on the floor of the screens. Now that yeah,
Well, I'm sorry, Henry. Go ahead, Matt. I was
gonna say, I have I have another encounter that I sent to you that
was investigated by from our friend less less than Kevich. And this happened literally
right in my back yard for all intents and purposes. So there was a
young girl, and this is there's a lot of similarities to the door incident,
and you may not they may not be as apparent as what you think.
So there was a young girl. She was ten years old, and
this happened in the fall of nineteen ninety four, and she was living in
the town of jim Thorpe, which the street that she lives on backs up
to a mountain. Now I look out my front window and I could see
the one part of that small mountain that she had this incident with. That
mountain itself was old coal mines that haven't been used in probably eighty ninety years,
so a lot of the forces has regrown, you know, taken over.
There's some beautiful, beautiful stretches back. But again, she's ten years
old. She's at her house and her family's there, and this is about
six thirty in the in the fall, so it's not quite dark yet.
But as she's in the kitchen, she sees a face staring in the kitchen
window above the sink. And the one thing is is that where the window
was, it was about seven feet off the ground. So she said that
once she looked at it, and now this is where I'm gonna say,
Okay, this isn't the same. When she looked at it, it buried
its teeth. Now, she couldn't tell if it was a smile or if
this was an active aggression. And again, I know with certain primates when
they do show their teeth sometimes that is an active aggression as opposed to it
being hey, you know they're smiling at me. No, it's not,
you know, it's just like a dog baring its teeth. She said it
was only just a fleeing glimpse, but she was able to make details about
the face about what she saw. She was scared. She started screaming.
She ran in to get her parents. By the time that they came back,
whatever was there was going. Now, the one similarity between this and
Dora is first the age. You know, she's a ten year old girl.
And now again we don't know if it was being aggressive or you know,
was what it was doing by showing the teeth. But Sean had mentioned
that Dora's incident happened in Missori, which is very much filled with a limestone
materials, So there's limestone caves all over the place, and she mentions about
going to the cave. The one thing that really kind of stands out with
this is literally, you know, two hundred and three hundred yards away from
where this house is, there's some abandoned coal mines in a bandoned mineshafts back
there, so that could be utilized as well. Now I've been in this
area, we have not had other than that. That was the only encounter
that we've had on that that particular side of the mountain, except for there
was an incident that happened back in late the nineteen forties that my dad told
me about. I've known him for you know, fifty years. He tells
me that he thinks he saw something, you know, and in the backyard,
which is which is literally on that it's on that same ridge. You
were so pissed. Can I just don't know? You were, like my
mom told We knew about my mom's incident, like the night had happened,
you know, But my Dad's like, you know what, I think I
saw something, and and he's told me about this. I'm like, holy
cow, why did you why did you tell me earlier? But anyways,
regardless with going through the window again, it didn't make any attempt to enter
the house, but it was staring inside and it was apparently staring directly at
the at the young girl. So again you know, it's that it's a
factor of it being curious. But again with it bearing its teeth again,
that's a sign that kind of concerns me a little bit. You know.
Granted this happened in nineteen ninety four, but you know it was it was
an active aggression. But again through that area, there's been no other reports
however. Just that's actually to the front of where I live. To the
back is another mountain range, which is where our friend Less you know,
had some experiences. We've had other BFRO listening encounters back there as well,
so you know, so you know, it's not like a real squatchy area,
but there there's been some reports and that was an interesting report that came
through. Matt. We got a question from our friend Jamie Sean and matter,
you're receiving more reports from your area, and that's a great encounter with
the tail. Yes, thank you, thank you, and shout out to
the kings Is. So yes, So we really haven't had that many if
we get an encounter in this particular area. I'm in the My main research
area is north central PA, but I actually live in the in the southern
Poconos. We do occasionally get a report here and there, but then you
know, it's just like word of mouth, like you know, from like
the two or three four parties involved away where I was actually just talking about,
you know, the research I do, and the guy says, did
you know that there's a family bigfoot there living behind your house? I'm like,
I never heard that before, you know, but yeah, I'm like,
who saw that? Well, a friend of a friend of a friend.
Now. The only thing with that though, is that again with less
Less has had some very you know, viable encounters. Whoop, He's had
some great encounters in that area. And there was neighbors too that I've had
encounters in that particular area, which again is behind my house and up over
the mountain. They're actually on the north side. We're on the on the
south side of that mountain. But as for any recent reports coming in,
not a whole lot. I think that if they do come through this area,
again, this was a fall instant. When this girl saw this,
saw the creature at the window. Right. The incidence that at Less's in
his neighbors generally happened in the fall. The bfr O reports generally are in
the fall. So I think that they're coming through. I think it's basically
more or less like a travelway. Now. The other thing, too,
is not that far from you. You see Appolie Trail. We get a
lot of reports in the winter time. And what I always think is that,
you know, the group up in Sussex County is making its way down
this way. You know, maybe because of the the food, maybe because
of additional cover, maybe it's not as much snowpack up here. So again
I do think that there's definitely I don't think it's a permanent population. I
think it's a transient that comes through in especially in the fall and over to
the south of US on the Appalachian Trail in the wintertime. I think those
are the active times there. No, I agree, I would agree with
you, And you know, Matt, I would like to add on just
a question to you. When there is peering in the window, how do
you feel do you think that's a malevolent thing, or do you think it's
just pure curiosity? You know, I think with doors incident, in the
incident that you brought up, I think that that's just curiosity. However,
like I said, with this, with this incident that was reported, you
know, in that less investigated, I'm not so sure. And again I'm
looking back at you know, she was able to get a very detailed look
at the face. But again I go back to the teeth. You know,
if you have something showing its teeth, you know, and we don't
know, you know, a whole lot about you know, what that could
mean, you know for that. So but again I know with primates when
they show their teeth, and that's generally that you know, Yeah, that's
not a great sign. No, I agreed. You know, there was
another story. It's not so much peering in the window, but it was
a five year old boy that notified his mother and father, primarily the father,
that there's gorillas in the backyard that he saw through the window night after
night after night. And the father was so aggravated at the fact that the
apple trees that they had growing in the backyard were stripped of apples, right,
and the kids like, no, the gorillas in the backyard are taking
the apples, and the father just blew it off. He knew nothing of
the subject matter. But here this five year old is watching this stuff through
his window, watching a primate, well who knows, taking the apples off
the trees. And you know, the fathers aggravated at the fact that his
apple orchard is being stripped. And that's another interesting aspect, well, very
very interesting observations from that young man, you know, the five year old
boy. There is also stories from Ohio of these things coming up and watching
their TV. I tried to find the exact story. I couldn't find it.
I mean, there's just a lot. There's a lot of stories involving
you're watching a cool episode of whatever it is you're watching, and the outside
no, no, no, thank you, sign me off. No,
you know, And I think this wasn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
It was either Standgorn or Erica Altman. They had investigated an encounter in
of all places, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Now it was in the rural
part it's Philly suburbs. But they had said that there was something coming up
to the window and going back to the whole gorilla thing. The person said
in the basement, went in the basement where this thing was apparently peering in.
They had a gigantic stuff toy gorilla that they wanted an affair. Wow.
And then as soon as they took it away. Yes, yeah,
the story you're talking about. Yes, so I yeah, if you would
have pulled that up, that that was actually a fantastic encounter. And again
it's in a rural part of Mintgomery County, but still you know, relatively
close to Philadelphia. But yeah, this whatever it was, it was attracted
to this gigantic stuffed toy, you know, gorilla. Right. I have
to say, though, the misconception about Pennsylvania is, you know, everybody
thinks Pittsburgh and Philly, and they forget about those thousands upon millions of acres
in between forests, right, and you could be outside Philadelphia not far and
you're right back in woodlands like it happens a lot of UFO sightings, you
know, in those areas as well. That isn't conducive of the woods,
but nonetheless important important to notate that, you know, just because there are
counties where these stories come from that might seem a little outlandish to think about
the geography as a whole, not just the city. Yeah. Percent of
Pennsylvania is what urbanized and the right wilderness. Yeah, Matt Jenna. I
met a woman who told me about an old man in the woods that would
look in windows in the Poconos. If she ever runs into her again,
I plan on getting her story. Share that with us, Share that with
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