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Let's continue now a Senator JD.
Vans live from Washington, d C.

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And Senator Vans, welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. Senator, first

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of all, you've been there now
about six months, and unlike others who

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are politicians that go in, they
go up the ladder again in the city

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council, good to county commissioner might
become the congressman then a US senator.

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You kind of came horizontally, insida
vertically, which is a good thing.

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I wish more people came horizontally.
Well, what has amazed you, surprised

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you and caused angst in the last
six months or six months into it?

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You know where the bathroom is now? And what have you found surprising about

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the US Senate here? There are
a few things any First, on the

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good side, Willie, it's certainly
possible to get things done. You know,

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you have colleagues on both sides of
the aisle who are interested in cutting

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deals and making sure legislation actually moves, and that of course makes it possible

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for me to get things done for
the people of Ohio. That's that's really

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important. But the second thing,
it's sort of distressingly and I think this

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is one of the reasons why I
had a lot of my Republican colleagues did

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not like the Kevin McCarthy dead ceiling
deal of a couple of weeks ago,

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is that not enough people pay attention
to the deal, the details. So

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if you look at some of the
top line things, for example, out

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of that legislation, they sound pretty
good, you know, the first time

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we've had spinning cuts in a couple
of decades, some real efforts to rain

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in some of the worst parts of
the Biden administration. But if you look

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at the actual legislative text, it
gives a Bide administration a ton of power

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to waive some of the most important
provisions. So you do some good things,

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but then you give Joe Biden unilateral
authority to waive it. You've got

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to pay attention to the details.
And that certainly think that's something I take

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from my private sector experience, and
I think that a few more folks on

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Capitol Hill should learn. Last night, I had a question to you,

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and I told my caller last night, I'd ask you this question about East

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Palestine, and that is that you
were the one senator that was physically present.

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I don't think Joe Biden never showed
up there, and you had this

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demonstration where you dropped a little rock
or some object in to a creek and

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suddenly the stuff bubbled up that looked
awful. Where several months away from the

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incident, and my caller last night
from Western Pennsylvania said, we are thoughts

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are being confirmed and that largely we're
being ignored right now. And I talked

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about with Senator DeWine. I'm sorry, Governor DeWine and done with the Ohio

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Health Department. So for that caller
who might be listening, what is happening

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this afternoon, what's going to happen
this week and next week? And East

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Palestine relative to the train derelment,
well, I give a lot of credit

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to the Ohio Department of Health for
continuing to monitor the situation there, But

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we have some long term issues that
we're gonna have to stay on top of.

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The biggest concern that I have,
Willie, and I've got a single

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full time staff member who just works
on this particular issue for me, is

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that we were really worried that the
long term health consequences of this thing will

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not become clear for many years,
maybe even a decade out from the accident.

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If you think about the perspective of
the people living in the area,

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they're not worried they're going to drink
the water and drop dead two days later.

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They're worried about what happens after ten
years of exposure, and there's no

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way to know the answer unless you
actually do the long term studying. The

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crazy thing that I've won Willie,
there is no organized in our federal government

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to think about massive It is a
six trillion dollars a year that we spend

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on it. There is no organization
that is able that is equipped to measure

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the long term health consequences of some
of these exposures. So that's what I'm

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most focused on. The second thing
that we're really worried about is just making

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sure it gets cleaned up. So
set it aside the long term health consequences.

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You've got to get toxic chemicals out
of these palacine into proper disposal facilities.

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I think we are close to being
done with that cleanup work, hopefully

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by the end of the month.
It's taken longer than it should have done,

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but I think without us continuing to
hammer the situation there, it may

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not have gotten done at all.
I watched some of the CEOs and town

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hall meetings that you attended, and
the Norfolk Southern CEO beat around the bush

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about ying out the town because many
people, I can't imagine selling your home

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right now in East Palestine, I
would imagine you can't sell it. And

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so as a consequence, what's happened
to the promises of the railroad to make

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whole again those injured by this,
Well, even if you can sell it,

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well, you're gonna sell it for
way less than it was worth before.

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You know, Norfolk Southern set off
a chemical bomb in your town,

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right So that's the big problem here
is these folks are going to suffer economic

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consequences totally aside from the health problems. For a long time, you know,

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we we have worked to try to
ensure is that either the federal government

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if it has to, or certainly
Norfolk Southern on the first order, should

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be picking up the costs for people
who lose their livelihoods, to lose their

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homes, lose their small businesses,
or to your point, if they want

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to sell their house get out of
East Palestine, that Norfolk Southern will recoup

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the loss they have promised to us
that they will provide resources to the people

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of East Palestine. And what we've
learned the hardware is we're just gonna have

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to stay on top of them.
We're gonna have to continue to talk to

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the people on the ground. Sometimes
we talk to people and they'll tell us,

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look, Norfolk Sovia did exactly what
they said they would do. Sometimes

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we talk to people and they'll tell
us Norfolk Southern hasn't. And so in

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those cases you have to keep doing
the work and make sure that Norfolk Shovin

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is keeping its promise to people.
So it's case by case. Sometimes they

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are, sometimes they aren't, and
that's how we've handled it. Have you

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interacted with Senator Diane Feinstein and Senator
John Fetterman and are they mentally competent?

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You know, John Fetterman is obviously
he is going to have long term health

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problems. My sense is that he
can't communicate very well, but he can

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he is fundamentally mentally there. Look, I have some serious concerns about Nan

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Feinstein. I think it's ridiculous what
they're doing. If you look at just

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some of the things that she has
said publicly, it's pretty clear I think

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that she doesn't know what's going on, that she herself isn't totally sure what

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she's doing from day to day.
She very clearly has serious health problems.

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And look, this is not a
Democrat or Republican issue. To me,

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this is basic human compassion. And
I don't think that people who are represented

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by Diane Finstlend and I don't think
Finstein herself are well served by what's going

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on. It's it's pretty sick.
About a half an hour ago ahead on

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Sheriff Richard K. Jones Butler County. Of course, you grew up in

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Butler County. Now you live in
Hamlet and County. As far as what's

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happening with a Donald Trump indictment,
what is your take on Donald Trump?

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Should he have been charged and should
he be the nominee of the Republican Party?

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What is your take on the indictment
by Jack Smith, a Democratic special

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prosecutor against Donald Trump. Well,
so I'm endorsed Donald Trump willing. I'm

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not changing my endorsement, certainly,
not because of this and not because of

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anything else that I've seen. So
I'm firmly behind Trump. I think he's

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the best candidate for us to win
the general election. I also think he's

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going to be the best president when
he wins. But I would make this

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pitch to people or not Donald Trump
fans, whether they're conservatives or moderates or

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liberals. What's going on here is
fundamentally a political prosecution, and this should

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bother you, even if you don't
like the guy at the center of it.

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Sets inside your feelings about Donald Trump. This is about the American system

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of law. Two issues that I
would point out here Willie why I think

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this is a huge mistake for the
Department of Justice to go down this pathway.

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First of all, I don't think
that Donald Trump committed a crime for

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the very simple reason that he has
the right under Article two of the US

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Constitution to control the documents of the
executive branch. That's all he did.

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We're talking about whether he misplaced papers, whether he stole papers. And my

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contention is, as the president of
the United States, if he doesn't control

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the papers of his ocean and the
bureaucracy does, we don't have a real

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president. We have a functionary And
because the Constitution gives that authority to the

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president, he fundamentally should not have
been prosecuted, but set that to the

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side. So you disagree with my
constitutional here, and you think that Donald

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Trump committed a crime. I don't
think that he did, But say you

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did. If you only prosecute the
Republicans who mishandle classified information, and you

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don't go go after Joe Biden,
and you don't go after Hillary Clinton,

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if you don't go after the number
of Bill Clinton and many Democrats who did

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this, you do not have equal
justice under law. You have politics masquerading

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as justice. And that's exactly what
we have in this case. In the

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matter of Navy versus Egan, nineteen
eighty eight Supreme Court case, Justice Harry

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Blackman wrote that, quote, the
president's ability to classify or declassify and control

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access the national security information flows in
the constitution itself. He decides, he

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alone decides, quote unquote, doesn't
that mean that as the president? While

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he was the president? And he
says he did declassify all the documents that

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went to Marrow Lago, there is
no crime. That's exactly what I think,

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Willie. And here's the thing what
people have pushed back on. So

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the pushback you will hear from the
left is they allegedly have an audio recording

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of Trump saying I could have declassified, but I didn't. Well, first

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of all, let's pump the brakes
here. I've heard a lot of selective

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leaks from the Justice Department the last
few years that have not proven out to

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be true. So don't take their
word of face value. But what Trump

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said in twenty one or twenty two
about his declassification doesn't matter. Even if

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he said that, that fundamentally is
not the issue. The question is what

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did Trump do as president. We
know as president he put these documents in

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boxes, he made the move to
take them tomorrow lago. He clearly treated

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them as declassified documents and as personal
effects. His actions as president matter of

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hell a lot more than his words
as the former president. I believe he

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declassified those documents. I believe it's
the only reasonable interpretation. And because of

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that, this prosecution is a sham. And because they are unanimous. United

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States Supreme Court decision said exactly the
same thing. You can't have a bureaucrat

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determining in the bowels of the Archives
Office what is and what is not national

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security matter. The president decided it, it's over now. Lastly, the

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ucrat. Go ahead, go ahead, Senator. Well, this is is

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such an important point, Willie,
that I want to build upon it.

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They just take one issue where even
the New York Times is sort of on

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the side of Donald Trump. We
know that he made certain decisions as commander

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in chief where the generals, Mark
Million particular, undercut his decisions. Now

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ask yourself the question the documentation of
those decisions. It's fundamentally something we want

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the President of the United States to
control, not the bureaucrats. If the

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bureaucrats can undercut the president and men
control the documentation that shows what they did,

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we do not have a president.
We have a symbol at the head

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of our government controlled by the deep
state. This cannot stand, Willie.

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It's fundamentally weakened. The people elected
president, Democrat or Republican. The president

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has to make these decisions, not
the bureaucracy. Senator Vans Ukraine, You've

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been strong on this subject matter this
morning. According to Zelinsky, that the

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counter offensive has begun. Of course, the southern part of Ukraine is now

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completely flooded. At some point soon
I would imagine the nuclear power plants will

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be exposed. There's hundreds of thousands
that are dead, and I want Russia

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to lose. I think Vladimir and
Putin is a mass murderer, he's an

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extortionist, he's a killer. He's
gonna rust for eternity in the bows of

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hell. But on the other hand, can you tell the American people,

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what is our interest in the Ukraine
if it would spark World War three?

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Well, we have no interest it
would spark World War three. World War

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three is preventing it as much more
important than any interest we have in the

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Ukraine. That simple, Willie,
and that can't be repeated enough. Look,

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I root for the Ukrainians too.
I think they're obviously an admirable and

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heroic people. But the Ukrainian people
is fundamentally a separate question from what we

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should be doing in this regional conflict. What we don't talk about about,

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Willie, is the risk of nuclear
war. Good point, Yes, the

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risk of this spiraling into a broader
regional conflict. Look at food and fuel

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prices in Europe. Look at the
fact that some of our friendliest governments in

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places like Poland and Hungry, important
allies of the United States, their governments

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are being destabilized because of the inflation
caused by this war. We're not talking

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about their refugee crisis, the hundreds
of thousands of innocent people that have been

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killed, the millions that have been
displaced. The national interests of the United

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States is to turn all of that
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the diplomatic power that we have.
It's the great failure of the Biden administration.

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I hate to say it way too
many Republicans that instead of pushing for

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piece, we have constantly pushed for
escalation. If we keep on escalating,

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this is going to become World War
three. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

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And the more that we stay away
from the path of peace, the

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more we endanger the future of this
planet for our children grandchildren. Zelinski says

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he needs a trillion dollars to rebuild
Ukraine. Is the American taxpayer going to

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pay that? Well, Willie,
I'm sure as hell hoped on, because

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I think that if I'm going to
spend a trillion dollars, then I'd rather

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spend it on things like a border
wall, on solving the fit in all

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crisis, on ensuring a good education
for the children of American citizens, and

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on so many other priorities. Our
country comes first, and I think it's

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kind of sick that our leaders can't
acknowledge that basic fact. Well, we

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have to run. But Senator JD. Vans, I'm glad you kept a

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common touch there in Washington. I
would note we haven't touched on transgender rides.

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For our little boys and girls being
indoctrinated with sexual issues when they're seven,

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eight, nine years old, I
know your view on that, But

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nonetheless, there's also shocking allegations that
it appears there's more to come to light

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soon on the Jeffrey Epstein matter,
which God knows the big time the Grand

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Pooba is involved in Jeffrey Epstein on
Lolita Island. I can't imagine when that

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comes out. Goes right now,
one of the JP Morgan companies are going

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to pay almost three hundred million dollars
to settle the Jeffrey Epstein accusers lawsuit so

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the names can never become public.
Three hundred million dollars. And understand some

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of the big names mentioned include Bill
Gates, etc. And it's disgusting that

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we have this stuff going on,
and in the land of freedom and opportunity,

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we can find out whether the Clintons
are involved directly or indirectly, or

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Bill Gates or god knows who else. So maybe down the road we can

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find out, But right now this
is settlement announced of almost three hundred million

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dollars on condition the accusers remain quiet. What's your view on that one.

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Well, look, it's crazy,
and we know without a shadow of doubt.

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I mean, it's admitted, it's
public record that Bill Clinton was on

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the famous Epstein Island, and look, we don't know what happened there,

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but we know that sometimes there were
some sexual assaults of children going on their

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actual pedophilia. Yeah, so let's
sort of step back and appreciate that we

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don't know what our former pressent was
doing on an island where children were sexually

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exploited. The fact that is that
one of the most important stories in the

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country makes me realize we have a
very corrupt media. But we need to

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get to the bottom of this.
It's crazy, it's disgusting, and unfortunately

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Willie way too many of our leaders
appear caught up in it. And we

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care a lot about the papers,
pieces of paper and mar Lago. That's

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the big story. I mean,
every day, day after day, Senator

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JD. Vans, you're a great
American and thank you for coming on the

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Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you,
Senator, thank you. WELLOK, God

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bless you, God bless America.
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