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Everyone. It's Tuesday, May twenty
four, twenty eleven. You were listening

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to the Giant podcast on. I'm
Ryan Davis joining me in the room.

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Here in the zone, mister it's
the no Spin zone, mister V calla

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spinning. Stop spinning that chair here, Jeff Gersman back from Los Angeles,

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which is the all spin zone.
Put it in the food zone. Uh

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And Brad Shewmaker fuxing with his phone. Put it down. Now, let's

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do this. Let's give down.
He's trying to buy a pac Man Championship

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Edition d X was out for his
Windows phone seven out. To be fair,

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I assume that he is making E
three appointments so he can keep that

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phone up for the entire podcast.
Actually, far as i'm concertually now,

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I'm looking at pac Man Edition d
X podcast is over seven dollars? Really?

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What seven dollars? Is it?
At least d X? It is

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d X. I get blown for
seven dollars? What? What? What?

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Like? Poorly? Wait? Why
would I buy that when I could

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wow? He c Yeah? Why
why are you cle clipping so much?

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Why is the why are the mics
so hot? If he wanted hot mics?

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Why would I buy a seven dollars
version of pac Man when I can

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get fable coin golf four ninety nine. He answered your own question right there,

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or a bunch of gamer Wait,
Jeff, get for four ninety nine.

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You don't want to know. It's
a dirty look. That penny makes

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all the difference. Yeah, all
those gamering games started coming out on the

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phone, literally literally, pall three, you've been you've been using that Windows

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Phone seven phone. It's dumb term
to call it, but I'm not gonna

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call it that Windows phone seven,
Windows phone seven because Windows phone seven is

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like the platform that's that is a
different you're using that Samsung. Yes,

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this is a Samsung Focus Focus.
Yes, so it is a Windows Phone

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seven phone. Yes, yeah,
that's correct. What's the hand set?

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Is that what we like to call
it hands Yeah, that's what we like

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to call it. I call it
a hand like cans you like to call

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How has your experience been with that
Windows phone seven hand sets? It's okay,

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it's by default, it's faster and
I guess than therefore better than my

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iPhone three G because my phone three
G is unusable as videos they are if

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you're if you if any got an
iPad two and now he's just using that

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as though it was his iPhone.
It doesn't work when I hold it up.

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No, it's my ears. No
good for topic skypone that thing,

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and you're probably good it's only Wi
Fi. I just I haven't bought any

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games on this thing, and I
probably should have to get the full Windows

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phone experience. But when it's phone
seven, yes, but it's hard to

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one of those phone seven hand set
experience. It's hard to. It's hard

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to buy games for a phone that
you have to give back. It was

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it was like Windows Mobile before,
right, Yeah, it was Windows Mobile

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six point five, Windows Mobile or
I think wind Moo as some people around

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here would call it. I've seen
I've never heard it set out loud,

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but I've definitely seen Windmow written on
Pilo. That was. That was way

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more like a business focus thing,
right, sure, yeah, that was.

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That was for like getting exchanged support
your hands Your Palm Traio had windm

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on it. My Palm Trail didn't
Harbor Master to put Boom two on your

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right, No Kuboon two. I
wanted a different your hand sets, the

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one with Katie. Yes, I
see, I just find Yeah, before

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before Brad had that phone. I
had it over like around Christmas, and

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I bought a bunch of games on
it, And now I keep wanting Brad

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to stop using the phone so that
I can start using it again. I

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keep specifically because I bought all those
goddamn games on it. How much how

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much money would you say you spent
on Windows Phone seven games? Probably like

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fifteen bucks or something like twenty maybe, I don't know, Like, you

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know, I was like trying to
see if this thing was gonna matter and

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if we should care about it for
coverage, so you know, I wouldn't

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buy a bunch of games, got
a bunch of dumbass mobile games and gott

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a like real ass achievement points out
of it, So that kind of felt

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good. But then I was like, this Crackdown game is garbage. Yeah,

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I don't want to play this doesn't. Will has another Winner's Phone seven.

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He keeps threatening to bring it in
so that I can play my games

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on it. So play your games
on that, and I'll continue not really

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liking this film, yeah, because
I did. We need to. You

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know, It's like there are new
things branded game Room coming out on it,

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and I feel this weird, which
every time one of them comes out

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like, oh god, it is
one of is one of them? Sunset

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Writers? No, yeah, I
didn't think. So it's never coming out,

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come out. It's never coming out, Jeff says it Writers is never

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coming out. How awesome is that? Wait till there is any kind of

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game room initiative. At E three
they announced their big Classics initiative, and

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the first game out is Sunset.
And I'm saying, I'm saying that Microsoft

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has lost E three. I know
we don't like using those terms, but

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what if they come out on a
horse? All right? If Jay Allard

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comes out on a fucking horse at
the start of the Microsoft talking this to

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make this even more impossible, come
out and I'm back to lead the tribe,

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lead his tribe to the promised last
on a horse, and to begin

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with Sunset. Right, I would
follow. I would follow Jay Allard anywhere

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that's right, even to a Burger
place in Seattle. You see, you

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didn't see that you were gone last
week? Someone someone took a commando picture

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of Jay Allard at a Burger place
in the Seattle to us. Yeah,

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I love that we get these.
This is not the first time someone has

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sent like spy photos of Jay Allard, so it didn't make it up on

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the side. Is that on the
j Alard page? Probably? I haven't

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looked at it, but yeah,
is anyone at all surprised that he's meat?

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No? You couldn't see him being
a vegetarian. I could, but

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no, he needs the protein muscle
masked. I don't think he's a particular

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He's not very well built to go
to snowboarding as often as he does.

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He was clearly in a like prist
post snowboarding look of like scruffy beard with

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a weird tan line around the eyes
he had. Yeah, that's sounding Michael

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Stipe esque, you know you when
you describe it to me. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, kind
of kind of not as gaunt, okay,

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but yeah, a little stipey,
like a healthy Michael healthier Stipe,

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right, sure? Looking for still
around Michael Stipe? Yeah, okay,

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all right, I'm still kicking around. It's still a bad really fake care

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of all. How you doing,
I'm doing all right, fantastic. I

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had this crazy thing like somebody I
think it must have been my wife or

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somebody or I had had dinner with
some friends last night and somebody was talking

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about E three and I was like
yeah, and they're like, yeah,

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so that's like, you know,
what are you doing this Friday because it's

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pretty much like weekend after that?
And I was like what, that's not

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true. And then the sudden like
flop sweats, like oh my god,

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really like checking my watch, checking
calendars, like is that really? Is

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it really that? It really is? Yeah, two weeks, but I

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don't think it's like that. I
think there's this Friday and then by next

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Friday we're pretty much leaving for E
three. Right, that's I'm definitely Friday,

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So I'm getting ready now. I'm
now I'm kind of in like the

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E three mode, And so that's
terrible for work because that means like everything

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else suddenly just takes a back seat, and it's like all I can see

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is yeah, like like right there, and it's like, well, we

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saw a ton of other stuff to
do. There's a bunch of other work

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that it needs to get done,
and it's just like flying by me.

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We'll get it done, we'll get
it done E three. And then once

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that's over, it just started thinking
about the next D three. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's hard to not just
really immediately start thinking about like a year,

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we're gonna have to do this again. Oh it's not that hard,

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but it's like, come, it's
hard for me to focus on what needs

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to be done, and I just
want to go to E three. You

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just want to pull that band aid
off. Oh that's not even a bad

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Like I'm kind of excited for E
three this year. I like where our

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housing arrangement, Like once that stuff
all starts working out, it starts to

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get more exciting, once the pieces
start falling into place. What's once you

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get some of like the core logistics
out of the way, you can actually

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start thinking about the show and not
just the oh god, are we going

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to even make it there? Right? And like all the like the way

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gear and we have all this stuff
because like you know, E three is

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what it is, and by the
end of it, you've seen a lot

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of cool stuff. You're really tired, but you do see a lot of

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awesome stuff. And this year I
think is shaping up to be a big

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question mark. And I'm kind of
glad to see the motion stuff not popping

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up in weird ways that I haven't
seen a lot of like invitations to be

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like come on to our move event
or are a connect eve ent or even

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like Nintendo is going to have something
different that might not write the move Yeah.

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So like that's what for me.
E three last year was like just

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getting ready shielding myself for all like
the motion stuff. And that's kind of

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what E three last year sticks in
my mind. Does So this year is

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I mean, well, I mean
it panned out fine, Connects sold,

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well, well we'll see if there
are games, right, So this year

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I'm really cure to see how it
all goes. I think it's gonna be

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some awesome games there. And Jeff, how's it gonna go? It's gonna

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go all right? Okay, great, there will be some awesome games there.

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Uh and I know you're not gonna
see any of them because I already

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saw them. Sorry, but uh, I think I'm gonna hopefully. My

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My goal for this E three is
to leave really excited about the coming where

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video games are going next six months, Whereas last year I left E three

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with a kind of like dark heart, being like, we'll play games anymore.

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This is well, this motion stuff
is a real big bummer. This

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isn't what I signed up for.
Oh, let's just you're just get through

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this. Close your eyes wake me
up when we're past, like Ohio,

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and like I'll wake back up and
let's play some more games. So now

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I'm excited again. Did you play
some games? I played Ellen Noir,

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which is the dinner party game.
Le Noir is that Eleanoir diner party game.

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Dinner was fun. It's a house
of prime rib nice. Yeah,

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Frank Adams, Yeah it's good.
Oh, okay, good you hang out

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with Frank. I just wondering,
like, who are you hanging out with

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that they're talking about E three.
That's never a good sign, jailer.

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It's like, I gotta get on
this horse. See if it's then you

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lean over go. I think this
guy behind us is taking a picture smile.

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Uh. Yeah, that was good. That was finish it. That

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was also good. No, if
the game is long, Brad, that

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games long. Yeah. I thought
I was chewing through and I just made

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it pass the homicide desk really,
which is a weird which is a weird

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staggering in that game because it's like
you go from traffic is is well,

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if you start off, you know, on the beat, and that's just

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tutorial stuff, then traffic is super
quick. Traffic three cases, it's pretty

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fast, homicide goes for a long
time. I'm still I'm still neck deep

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in homicide. Homicide is definitely the
longest desk in the game, Oh is

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it? Because that's not to say
that you're close to the end. So

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it's weird. So you go from
a homicide to vice, which seems like

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it seems like a step down in
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You know, you're like, you
think homicide would be if somebody dies,

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you're you're on the case. Vice
is like liquor and gambling and all

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that stuff, right, drugs,
prostitution. Yeah, I would. I

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have no idea how police forces work, especially this is work in the forties,

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But like that's a that's a good
question. Do you know is there

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any difference point vice and advice?
Because they call it advice in the game.

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The advice is when someone asks you
like, is this guy dead?

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Hey, how do I how should
I take I can't date girls? And

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then should I take these drugs?
And then he says yeah, and then

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you gotta call vice? Yep,
uh no, Yeah, I noticed that.

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I thought vice. I don't know
how its name, but I thought

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vice was like the vice squad for
like these are vices like these are.

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That was my assumption, and then
they started calling it advice. Did you

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get so? Did you get into
vice? At always? It just started

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and then I turned it. This
is fun because it's in Hollywood, for

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one thing, so that's where all
the extras LEAs bags are, okay,

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but yeah, it's it's all kinds
of hooking and drug running and mob stuff.

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And I'm sure people die though,
Yeah, so that's not homicideide.

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Also it's funny. Actually, he's
probably like a jurisdictional yes, yeah,

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arguing because coming straight from homicide,
like you start occasionally when you know they're

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the basis of the case is like
you know, drugs or the mob or

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whatever. But then somebody dies.
Then like people you knew from the homicide

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department come in, they're like,
all right, this is our case now,

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and there's like, yeah, there's
a little bit of like infighting.

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It's pretty you see a little bit
that even when you're on homicide, like

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the last the last homicide case,
when vice swoops in, Yeah, so

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you start you start seeing that stuff
pretty early on. But I do appreciate

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the like sticking with a partner for
all those cases because I like that partner

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relationship where you start to get to
know each other and get to know each

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other Rusty. I could not wait
to get rid of Galloway. I fucking

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hated that guy. Which one Rusty
Rusty Gallaway is the homicide. Yeah,

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but you didn't grow to kind of
guy's a dick. He's a partner,

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though, What are you gonna do? Is kind? I agree to like

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him though. Yeah. I liked
having him by my side. I liked

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being the good cop back because he
is a poor law man. He is

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a terrible man, but he is. But he's a pretty good partner.

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He's a good bad cop. He's
he's the guy that you want there to

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talk about, you know how he's
gonna break that guy's fucking job. He

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doesn't give him an answer. But
that's not even the guys the first place.

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That's the problem. Man. He
doesn't even care if he's got the

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right guy or not. Uh did
you ever strand your your partner? Do

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you not wait from to get back
to the car. Yeah, they'll just

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warp to where you are and get
didn't do that. Well, here's the

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thing is I never drive. I
never I never drive back and always make

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them drive so one time I got, you know, leaving the location,

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got into the car, was like, yeah, you drive, And I

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was sitting there for like five minutes, and I don't know, dude got

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stuck on stuff and didn't make it, couldn't find his way out. I

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don't know the only time I've had
that happened. Well, yeah, that's

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when I stranded him. All Right, I guess I'm gonna drive this time.

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And I get to the location and
then like as I'm getting out of

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the car, he's in the car
somehow, and I'm like, oh,

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okay, Well, apparently there are
all kinds of technical problems that I didn't

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run into too. I mean,
aside from like the crashing and the overheating

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is like the headline thing. Sure, I've read all these anecdotes about like

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some guys said he was investigating a
house and then all of a sudden his

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car was in the living room and
stuff like that. That seems like it

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warrants investigation. You should look into
that. That's traffic. I really didn't

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run into any of that stuff.
It's crazy. I've run into a few

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weird things here and there, but
nothing that's really ruined my experience. I'm

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actually really really enjoying that game.
It's a bad traffic behavior has been the

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oddest thing that I've seen in the
world. Guys turning into you, Guys

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trained to me, or just like
when I'm having my partner drive and it's

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it's during like a dialogue sequence.
Sometimes their choices are a little crazy.

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But my second time through, I've
been driving less just because I did it

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all the first time. And you're
right, like Galloway actually was driving in

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the last case I played, and
like he straight rear ended the guy in

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front of him at the red light
and immediately reversed and ran into the guy

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behind him and then drove forward again. Did they ever address that though,

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No, there's there's no like,
Okay, this guy hit a cop car,

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let's get out here, and and
you're driving. Yeah, when when

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you're driving, if you do stuff
like that, yeah, they'll get on

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your ass. But for everything,
but when they're driving, even if someone

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runs into you, like if someone
like you're saying, cars turn into you

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or whatever, it seems like that
that should be. They always blame it

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on too much. But it seems
like sort of thing where you should just

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be able to jump out of the
car and arrest that dude. Like if

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you put the siren on, they'll
kind of get out of your way.

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Yeah, a lot better, guys, But that's not even why you're out

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there. You're you aren't beat cop
anymore. Yes, that's for an officer.

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Yeah, I just flee the scene. Yeah, which is why you

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just beat the crap out of the
guy, like like an you get a

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cop would. Now, it really
does. It really does a pretty good

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job of making you not want to
drive like a jerk by by dinging you

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for points. Yeah, you know, that's the best practical reason not to

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drive. But also like guys will
kind of jump out of the way as

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you're driving, and uh, you
know, you just I don't know if

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they do a good job of making
the atmosphere where you don't want to do

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it. You just don't want to
drive on the sidewalk, even if it's

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the shortest way. You're fucking g
man, Like you couldn't be more like

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tight wound and straight and narrow of
an asshole and kind of a dick about

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it about you know, following the
rules, Like it's so not that character

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to just go plow through pedestrians.
I feel, but they also make the

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pedestrians a lot more nimble than they
aren't in GTA, so they get out

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of your way a lot. I
will say this about that game though,

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when you play it for stretches,
I think that's a game that is probably

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best played and kind of like case
a little shortcase things you play it for

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a bit, especially if you're doing
a lot of the side stuff, that

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game becomes a lot of just drain
pipes and running out like you're constantly just

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running up drain pipes, like chase
people down like you do. Like the

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sidecases are basically two things. One
is a shootout and you just kind of

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like you pull up and it's like
guys are inside and they set it up

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with a nice story and everything.
The setups for those things are actually better

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than they should be. Yeah,
they're nice, and then set them up

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and they get you in the action
really quickly. But this just shootout right,

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you kill three doubts or it's like
chase this dude, and like climbate

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drain pipe. Si. They were
like an on foot chase. Sometimes it's

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a car chase. Yeah, sometimes
chase. Yeah. Maybe there are three

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I should say the third one is
probably the card chase. But at some

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point it's just like sitting next to
my wife and she's like, this is

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a drain pipe one. It's like, yeah, it's a drain pipe one,

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because it's just like, shim me
up the drain pipe, chase the

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guy down. Sometimes you tackle them, but but they but they decide.

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They decide whether you're gonna tackle shoot
a guy like when you're chasing a pillectric

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gun, or shoot him. So
you can't pull out your gun at any

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time and do that kind of like
halt thing. You have to have to

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be part of. Yeah, because
at first I was like, man,

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I'm just killing everybody. Hope,
I'm not doing this wrong. But I

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think it was just the side missions
I was getting. But that game,

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uh, it's it's captivating. I
don't know, something about it really is

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sucking me into its uh, into
into its whole atmosphere. It's just such

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an elaborately detailed world. I mean, there's so much there to see and

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get your hands on and just really
get kind of down and dirty with.

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Yeah, I really really am enjoying. I actually really like the kind of

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the mechanics of the puzzle solving too. The false clues maybe are a little

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annoying once in a while. You
know, I'll pick up everything ever a

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little bottle, but I'll tell you
usually right away, and they're like,

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I've gotten better. My my,
my pro tip is skip the bottles.

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Will skip bottles, brushes, skip
hair brushes. Always pick up picture frames.

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A picture frame will always be a
significant clue of some kind. Yeah,

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and if you flip it over all
the better. But I don't also

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always look at newspapers. I don't
know if yeah, I don't know if

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we have this conversation last time or
two weeks ago, but about feeling kind

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of like you'd get ahead of the
game in terms of clues and stuff like

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that. And you're right, you
don't like all the character seems smart enough

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to be putting together stuff as you're
putting it together. It does, in

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fact smarter than everyone around him in
some cases, but but not so much

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where you're making logical leaps that don't
make sense. And I really feel like

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there's never a case where I want
the guy to say something that he won't

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say, like, oh man,
all the evidences points of this just have

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this line of dialogue, and I
feel like that doesn't come up. If

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anything, it just remains so gray
until certain points where you're just never even

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quite sure this is the guy I
should be convicting or not. But let's

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just get him in the My chief
really wants a conviction, so let's pull

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the trigger on this, particularly when
you're gonna throw the dolly stuff. Yeah,

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particularly like that, that whole that
whole sort of justice swings fast and

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hard. I love I love him, I love the captain for young fel.

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He's got so many amazing, like
biblical retribution references in everything that he

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says. Yeah, it's a real
have you gotten have you gotten a really

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bad rating to on homicide where he
choose you out? Oh my god,

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I did. It's terrible. I
felt awful the dressing down you get from

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that man, Oh my god.
Well, so I was afraid that it

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was actually gonna have a material impactually, because he pretty much he pretty much

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tells you like or he told me, he's like, you two go out

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there and bust street crimes until you
know, in my good grace, is

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enough to get a proper case.
And I thought, oh shit, that

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I fucked that case up so bad
that I'm literally gonna have to go like

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grind out some open world stuff because
I have not done any of those.

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Yeah, because I'm because I'm never
driving, so I'm never seeing them because

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I don't want that game to be
open world. Well you can just pick

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those up later on that free room
stuff. Yeah, want to? You

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know, I know, I know
there's other ways, but while I'm playing

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the story, I was like,
I don't want to. Yeah, sometimes

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I feel that way too. Fuck
around with any other stuff. I'm on

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a case I should go take care
of. Have you ever just hit the

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power or done the quit one time
when you just know you fucked this up

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so bad? Actually one time because
I accidentally hit the restart oh the option

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which actually restarts the case, and
I was able to kill it before the

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restart affected the save. But you
never did it just because you're like blown

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in interrogation. So but I mean
I was, I hit restart because I

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had blown that interrogation. So this
this was compounded. It's a very good

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game to live with your consequences.
But there has definitely been once or twice

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where I'm just like, I'm fucking
this up so badly and I got all

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this evidence, like I'm really good, but I'm terrible at interrogating, and

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it took me a while and I
would say a tip and then maybe you

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guys can back this up. It
took me a while to realize what lied

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out and true really mean in terms
of the gameplay mechanic, Like what's the

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difference between doubting somebody and lying and
again and lie? They make pretty quickly

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lie. You have to have evidence
to back it up because, like you

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know, some of them are hard
where you're like the body queues on.

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Some of them are are great and
so over the top. You get the

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shifty dude who just literally starts looking
side to side like up and down.

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But some of them are not.
They don't later on in the game.

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They absolutely don't telegraph the answer through
the body movie. Yeah, so a

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lot of times I just want to
doubt it, and then you get that

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bad music and you're like, oh, man, man, I I just

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came to live in fear of the
four notes wrong answer jingle. I was

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just like, I still haven't decoded
those. I now know when to listen

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to the you have all of the
evidence music, cue oh when the music

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stops the last there's that hand,
there's that little horn build. The right

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answer is like two notes and ends
of the little chords. Yeah, yeah,

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but the wrong music answers so and
when you get like two of those

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in a row, it's just heartbreaking
crapping this up. I think the wrong

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answer one isn't like a minor key. Actually you definitely know you definitely have

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like kind of an unpleasant sound too. It's like, uh. One criticism,

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I will say that game is the
performances are so good, and when

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you get people that are really going
at it, and you get those weird

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characters that you're like, I know
this guy from something. Yeah, but

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you get really good performances, and
when you get a guy going and they

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start yelling at each other, it's
really good. But then, since you

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can choose the questions in any order, the next question can't start on that

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kind of high tone of them yelling
at each other. So let'll be screaming

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at each other, and then the
next question will be like, well,

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so tell me about this other thing. Uh, So there can be sw

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yeah, but overall, I think
it's pretty awesome and pretty convincing in terms

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of like what they've been able to
do with which essentially is a it's like

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an FMB game done in real time, Like you're basically choosing it could be

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FMB sequences that paused and you're like
truth lied oubt, Like okay, but

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doing an FMV game of this scale
would be prohibitive for all kinds of reasons.

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I don't know. I don't know
what it took for them to get

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all that, but I'm talking about
in terms of like the amount of video

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you would need on the disk and
how long it would take to place.

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It's more of a concern of like
then you can't have action sequences, then

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you can't have stuff that isn't just
entirely Yeah, I'm not saying it is

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eight colors, it's right on two
segads, but I mean, like,

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you know, fifteen years ago this
would have been done in FMB for this

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quality, and it's great that they
can do it without it, and it

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is completely convincing and really hat hats
off to that. Still still completely yeah,

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still you know whatever I am six
hours in, eight hours in it

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never gets old. Yeah, completely, like still every single time, Like

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that's a real person. Yeah,
look at that guy's actual face. Look

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at how he's a mooting. Yeah, I like it I like him a

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lot because you realize how how managed
your expectations are as far as like facial

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animations go in video games. When
you see that stuff, you're like,

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oh, wow, like what I
what I accept for facial animation in most

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games is so far below what they
pull off here and grand you know,

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it's they can only do it because
of the technology, but it's incredible.

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It's a mind blowing I did have
There's a user on the site who is

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also a game developer who hied in
about if any reason one last week that

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was asking about if they could apply
this technology to like unrealistic characters, like

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if you could do an alien or
something like this. This guy's take is

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that they're generating the actual three D
model of the person's head from all this

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data. So if they're gonna do
like an alien or something like that,

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they would have to go in there
with like the facial prosthetics and the makeup

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on too. Like wow, really, yeah, you can't do it after

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the fact, Well maybe, I
think I'm sure they could probably modify the

407
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process some kind of hybrid kind of. I think the point is that you

408
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.319
don't need the level of technology that
they have to do what you want to

409
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:56.880
do. Well, it's the fidelity, like when you're talking to those people

410
00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.799
there there are great things that of
like you know, I move and and

411
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.039
cheeks and stuff like that. That
for me, it's always the forehead creases

412
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:07.720
because you can never get yeah,
because you can never do that that end

413
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.359
end certain kind of asymmetrical mouth movements. I don't know how they do it,

414
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:12.720
and it's it's I guess they put
out enough videos, right, I'd

415
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.039
probably look at you know, exactly
how they do it. How they do

416
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.960
it picture two high definition cameras.
I was gonna say, I could just

417
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.799
watch this making eyes. I kind
ofn't want to ruin the magic though I

418
00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.640
skipped all the still completely impressive.
It's still totally impressive because again, like

419
00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.759
it touches a part of your brain
that is like basically subconscious. Like it

420
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.599
doesn't matter how they get the result, it's doing it when you see it

421
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.319
in action like it, and it's
still impressive to think, like, well,

422
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.079
that guy was just sitting with a
smock on in this weird white clean

423
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.720
room with thirty two high definition cameras
pointing at him. How did they then

424
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:47.880
like convincingly bolt that head onto this
dude and make it move around, like

425
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:52.759
and get those people to like put
on good, realistic performances in that weird,

426
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.079
clean room. That's being able to
coax those performances out of the huge

427
00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.400
testament to the you know, the
quality of the actors that they got,

428
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.880
and I have to imagine, you
know, the direction they were being given

429
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:07.079
there, because yeah, that's that
seems like a wildly uncomfortable place to try

430
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.839
and like put in performances. And
the other part I think we may have

431
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:12.839
mentioned since you kid, you were
never playing against anyone else, like you're

432
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.799
in that room doing that performance.
You know, I don't know that you've

433
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.359
even met these other actors, but
you're still able to do From Heroes,

434
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.960
was in there play of each other? An Grunberg, Yeah, yeah,

435
00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.920
the part that is consistently on the
jewel from Dexter really Yeah, he's like

436
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:33.480
he's a bartender. It's coming to
me, Yeah, he's a bartender.

437
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.200
Fu Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You would you would think, like I'm

438
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:41.440
a first outing with this, you'd
run into like five characters like we are

439
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.400
breaking this technology. It's really hard
to do, but there are so many

440
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.880
people are just everybody will tell you
what's weird though? Our kids still a

441
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:55.599
little Kids don't work right. Kids
and teams don't work quite right. The

442
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:59.279
casting couch girl was pretty effective.
She was good. There was a daughter

443
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.319
there is know which one is.
She's weird. I don't know what it

444
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:07.359
is. I suspected her, you're
weird. I think it might be you.

445
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.799
Also, that game is really dark. That is some dark ship.

446
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.119
I don't know if it gets darker
advice than it didn't homicide, but that

447
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.640
is. At some point though in
the Homicide, I was like, Okay,

448
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:25.039
it's just always there's a lot of
dead naked women macab more seedy,

449
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:30.680
sinister. Okay, maybe some real
it's real dark stuff going on, a

450
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.720
lot of violence gainst women in that
game. A lot of you touched her

451
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:38.480
head and then turn it over and
it's a vast broad underbelly and forty.

452
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.400
I guess it's kind of the trade
off with the realistic faces that they when

453
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.519
they just look beat up and massacred, they also look kind of realistic,

454
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:52.880
So you're just like black eyes and
swollen and bloated corp. It's the hands

455
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.880
that always get me. It's the
part I don't like. Rings are the

456
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:59.480
rings are missing. I don't like
that part at all. Yeah, that's

457
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:04.119
kind of gross. It's think of
just like all that skin tearing and what

458
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.599
you're seeing there. It's it's gnarly. Homicide is interesting because it's kind of

459
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:12.480
a self contained story arc it wraps
up. Is that unique to the rest

460
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:17.440
of it. I thought I would
keep going. Okay, Yeah, that's

461
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.319
like a natural break point. That's
that's the intervision. I like that.

462
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:26.880
The action is very fast change one
before then. PS three also does have

463
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:32.319
some weird streaming and stuff when you're
driving around Like I was driving. I

464
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.640
was driving real fast in one of
those cars and all of a sudden crashed

465
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.119
into an invisible wall, and I
was like, what what happened? And

466
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:42.200
then then suddenly it drew in the
barriers. The PS three version is by

467
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:47.200
no means without fault, but it's
still better than Okay, it runs better

468
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.240
than the three sixty. Yeah,
uh, more so than I was anticipating.

469
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.119
But kind of sad. But the
only thing I was gonna say about

470
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.480
where you're at now is that you're
moving into a part of the game that

471
00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:02.039
starts to tie up, like the
little news ever cut scenes, the flashbacks

472
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.519
between cases that you've seen practically every
time you finished case, like all that

473
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:10.119
stuff starts coming together, like bringing
all this weird warbacks like his war wartime

474
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:11.799
flashbacks and stuff like that, that
that all comes kind of comes together.

475
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.920
Uh yeah, it's cool. I
haven't found any of those movies fit reels

476
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:21.359
yet. I didn't find a single
one throughout the entire effing game. They're

477
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:23.599
very very well hidden. They're all
on like rooftops. What is it when

478
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.000
you watch it's just you don't watch
anything. It's literally just collectible. You

479
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.039
just pick it up and it's like, oh, you're it's just like the

480
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.359
hidden badges. I don't know,
that's some DLC thing that I didn't mess

481
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.279
with, but it's like it's the
it's the it's the pigeons of it's the

482
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.200
GTA four PA. So it's not
literally just actually watching them. Oh yeah,

483
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.319
yeah, it's not missing any content. Someone hoods me up with the

484
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.200
Naked City Code and that has like
that badge challenge. I know that's not

485
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.640
part of the main game, right. I do find that, like there's

486
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.079
no reason to jump in out of
the cars, especially with the smart trying

487
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.200
to drive a lot of them are
faster and handled yeah, but like there's

488
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.759
no, I don't know, it
doesn't seem like there's a lot of incentive

489
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.359
there to have you. I'm sure
you've ranked up enough to a lock.

490
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.799
Some of the hidden cars I found
them also rememb are really cool. They're

491
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:14.000
like a lot of weird like forties
concept. Yeah, sports like that's cool.

492
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:15.119
But but then I just ditch them, you know, like I drive

493
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.000
around, just ditch them. But
they're fun to drive if they're different.

494
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.359
But there's that one mission where you
are where it pretty much forces you to

495
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:27.000
drive a different car. It's a
chase mission. It's it's during homicide.

496
00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:30.480
I won't get yeah, but yeah, so there's there are moments where it

497
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.000
the game itself is like here,
drive this car. I just mean in

498
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.279
terms of, like you know,
you can get in any car you want.

499
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.440
But that game is not an open
world. That's not no, no,

500
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.839
no, Like it has some of
the open world drappings, but it

501
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.319
doesn't detract from the game. But
there is all that stuff in there,

502
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.000
which is just kind of never.
Also picking up other guns always like guys

503
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.039
go down in like one or two
shots with it with the handgun. Never

504
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.960
really unless you just wanted to spread
a tommy gun. I just need to

505
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.640
or you just need the distance of
a rifle even so, like the target

506
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:02.799
is just that little painted ball all
you can kind of wait wait until you

507
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.480
get the rocket launcher. Railgun is
sick, wait wait till you're taking down

508
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.240
spank dealers. But I do like
it, Like it's kind of the same

509
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.640
thing as Red Dead, where like
that was the drug a GTA three y'all

510
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.839
sank, Yeah, spank. I
do Like he shoot a dude and it's

511
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.920
like two hits and it's like he's
dead, Like we're not. We're not

512
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.599
going to just so if you get
him once, he will fall down if

513
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.599
you get the main body. I
like shooting off hats though my hat comes

514
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.319
off all the time. Yeah,
I bet it does, just flies off

515
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:37.240
anyway. That's la now air out
now. The only like action sequence that

516
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.799
I've seen so far that I felt
seemed out of character and a little odd

517
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.400
for the universe. But it's like
one of those like, Okay, in

518
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.680
a video game, this is acceptable, but you guys have established this this

519
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.599
this world so well, so much
better, so much more realistically than that

520
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.400
I come to anticipate for most games. That it threw me off as the

521
00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.440
balance beam. Yeah, I'm just
like, this is super corny, super

522
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:06.079
gainy. They can also lose my
hat during those oh yeah, yeah,

523
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.839
you always do. It's weird too, because it's like it's like Prince of

524
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.160
Persia early Prince of Persia style.
Yeah, it's weird, like why is

525
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.680
this year? Yeah it was.
It was really strange. But it's basically

526
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:19.200
like that one time and then it's
never there again. I've had two.

527
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.720
There's one other time actually, but
I've had two. Yeah, it's infrequent.

528
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:27.759
Yeah. Also, some of the
animations when you're unfolding letters and then

529
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.480
folding them back up and putting that
like it just looks like it's in reverse

530
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.079
whatever. Well, they're just those
are just so they're so deliberate, those

531
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.880
animations. You gotta put the evidence
back so the officer can bag and catalog

532
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.279
it. That's true. I love
the corner. I want to play as

533
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.599
the The corner is great. Yeh, mal, you gotta have a good

534
00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.480
corner. You're gonna do a ple
cop proceedro you gotta have a good corner.

535
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:53.440
You gotta have he's yeah, he's
I can't so, yeah, he's

536
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.160
he's just he's he's pretty much because
you know, on homicide there's always a

537
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.240
dead body somewhere. He's just always
at that scene. I love seeing him

538
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:04.559
there. It's like my buddy,
the only one I can trust. Also,

539
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:08.119
R and I is way too chipper. They're always way too happy to

540
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.319
help you out. With Officer,
I mean, he's a very polite guy.

541
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.000
He's not a polite guy. He's
like he's like two talents. He

542
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:20.960
is either talking or just screaming.
I feel like phone he's all man and

543
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.640
please, yeah, but he's always
yelling it phelps bad two four, seven,

544
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.319
five, twelve, isn't it?
Oh, twelve forty seven. It's

545
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:34.400
good because he says, I think
it's twelve forty seven. I'm not sure.

546
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.799
My favorite moments are when he like
when he and Galloway are both like

547
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.279
on a phone or on the radio
somewhere, like reporting something. So he's

548
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.359
just here just like all this police
chatter. All right, Galloway bashed number,

549
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.720
and then I'm on the phone talking
to R and I or getting messages.

550
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:52.880
Yeah, they do it. It's
a it's a nice world. And

551
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:57.400
I like the foot chases. I
like the animations on that. Stuff just

552
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.200
looks real, yeah, real,
real, sharping the camera shake the way

553
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.119
that it's it's almost like handheld camera
following you when you're doing the on foot

554
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.639
chases. I was tapping next to
go faster for a while there, but

555
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.840
it doesn't do anything. Now,
I'm just hold that right trigger, go

556
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:16.840
man, big caravella. Yeah,
put anything else, man. I jumped

557
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:23.159
into a little bit more of the
Witcher one, but two is installed and

558
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.400
it's real. Uh. I know
I should write, just just do because

559
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.559
the Witch two so good. It
looks so good. Yeah, it looks

560
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:34.199
so good. I really don't think
you're going to be getting much out of

561
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:43.840
it. I bought the Witcher books. What the hell you should just you

562
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.760
should just uninstall the Witch two,
like right now, and just says wait

563
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.880
until new computers come out and its
Witcher three, like that'll be the time

564
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:54.159
when you can catch up. Yeah. I really don't know when I'm gonna

565
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.039
get to it, especially at this
point because when we come back from E

566
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.639
three, it is this game on
in terms of tons of really like five

567
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:07.000
big games when we got back.
Yeah, but which or two? Like

568
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.800
July is it's sad for their July
and August are both pretty wide open right

569
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:16.480
now. Catherine still August end the
July. Okay, so I'll just say

570
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:20.079
so Which or two is installed,
and they booted up every once in a

571
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.480
while just to look at it.
Uh Birthday. That's a great looking game

572
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:27.440
because it really is fantastically and Which
one doesn't look that fatially. Animations aren't

573
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.159
as good. So it reminds me
of what I need to get to.

574
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:36.079
Uh. That's another like super dark
and really well realized universe that, like

575
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.440
what they've done in The witch Er
two is is damned impressive. They don't

576
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.880
waste a lot of time either getting
you looking at some nude ass polygons.

577
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.000
Oh yeah, you want to see
some naked ladies, It's pretty you can't.

578
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.760
I will say Advantage the Witcher.
All of the naked ladies that I've

579
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.639
seen in that game have still been
alive and writhing around. Still a lot

580
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.199
of violence against wimmen though, So
you got that part for the course.

581
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.599
In both of those games, I
will say, Eli, which Which or

582
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.199
two? Seems like there is a
learning curb, conserting and maybe some difficult

583
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:13.480
ellieen air easy. Yeah, and
I you know, I was worried that

584
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.280
I it was just me being bad. But the Which two is fucking hard.

585
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:20.360
The combat is very unforgiving. The
combat is really weird in that game.

586
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.760
It's, you know, it's everyone
has to make decisions about what systems

587
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.920
they're going to put into their combat, and it's kind of nice that someone's

588
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.000
out there making some different decisions.
But tying your ability to cast spells to

589
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:36.119
your ability to block, and then
making it so you eventually can't block because

590
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.519
you're out of vigor. Yeah,
crazy, Yeah, And it's it can

591
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.679
be super frustrating too, because it
doesn't give you a ton of room to

592
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.880
make mistakes. It doesn't, and
it doesn't necessarily give you a great handle

593
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:54.960
on the combat up front either.
It's just you know, I haven't playing

594
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.159
with the game pad, which seems
like the kind of the way to play

595
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:02.639
it, and you know, it's
just it's it doesn't even tell you,

596
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:07.000
like, here's what the spells do
until you try to catch here's well even

597
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.719
even then, like I you know, like it's never told me for some

598
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.239
of them. Oh yeah, yeah, it was doing that. So I

599
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.079
kept dying, like that first combat
situation where you have to get down to

600
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:22.119
the balista, and I kept dying
there over and over again because it's like

601
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.280
the first real combat, and you're
like, what the fuck am I doing

602
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.320
wrong? Like how am I not
right? What do I need? And

603
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.559
if we need to like very carefully
pull one enemy ad time, deal with

604
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.440
him, then sit here and recharge, like it's basically what I end up

605
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:36.639
doing. And I was like,
clearly, this is not how they intend

606
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.320
for you to play this game,
is it. And I never found a

607
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.519
better way to deal with that situation. And you know, it's like even

608
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.400
in later battles, I'm still kind
of like running circles around guys as I

609
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.679
recharge and just try and as soon
as I recharge enough to go in and

610
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.519
there and hack at him, and
you know, i'd roll out of the

611
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.559
way and block one I can and
stuff. But mainly I just figured like,

612
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.440
well, this one shoots fire,
so that's probably the spell for fighting.

613
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.719
Uh. It seems like shield shield
was always my go too because there's

614
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.960
a shield. Yeah, yeah,
alright, one of those. One of

615
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:08.599
those is a shield, and it
basically allows you to because probably the problem

616
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:14.039
with that game is the animation and
the interrupts is you will be like mid

617
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.320
like casting animation or mid like even
just like swords swing like you're in the

618
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:21.679
middle of a combo, it's easy
for another enemy, like at your side,

619
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:23.760
to just step up, step up
and and knock yet that that combo.

620
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.360
This basically well. I definitely like. The first thing I did as

621
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.800
soon as I got some points to
spend was get to the point where I

622
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.000
can parry from any direction. That
seems like a key skill. But when

623
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.119
the game didn't have that, I
was like, man, this is broken.

624
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:37.199
I don't even want to play.
Then I went in and saw the

625
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.639
character tab and went like, okay, eventually I'll get that. Okay,

626
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:44.440
good, all right, great,
But yeah, it's it's it's it's not.

627
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:46.239
It's it's not. It's very unforgiving, and it's alsort of just not

628
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:51.440
very good as far as combat.
The combat very specifically, it's the only

629
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.519
thing about that game, And it's
weird, how much better every single other

630
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.840
thing about that game. It really
seems incredible. Yeah, like A like

631
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.280
all the dialogue stuff, it's really
well done. I thought, you know,

632
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.119
it's like the voices aren't always great, but they're I like them just

633
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.280
the same. The core is solid, and the core characters, I think

634
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:14.400
the voice work is good. They
bring good characters, some good, some

635
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.039
good, like kind of moral choices
you make a little early on, and

636
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:22.320
yeah, a lot of like true
Gray, which which I think is is

637
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.880
rare in those sort of like conversation
driven and a lot of like you know,

638
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.039
Vinnie and I played a little bit
further during the quick look stuff,

639
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.840
and there's a even even very very
early on in that game, you know,

640
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:37.519
they're there are full kind of quest
paths where you don't have to find

641
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.920
anything, where it's not at all
about combat. It is like negotiations and

642
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.199
researching and and all that kind of
jazz, which is cool. Paying hookers

643
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.199
pay yeah, well not even paying
hookers, but bribing hookers by doing favors

644
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.559
for them, and then the hookers
do something else for you and then yeah,

645
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:58.800
not like that, but also like
that, Oh it's not and that's

646
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.559
particular. So I got like basically
like the first black smith that I could

647
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:06.159
find, and then recrafted my Witcher's
sword, right you gotta get Yeah,

648
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:10.280
you gotta do that because I left
it inside of a dragon. Oh no,

649
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.800
the dragon's back, dragons back,
look out for that dragon. Uh.

650
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.159
Yeah, that's that's a that's a
really cool game. Yeah, I

651
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.119
want to play it. I gotta
get through. Also, like that was

652
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.199
another game where yeah, that was
that was a game when I started playing

653
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.599
it and there was all this stuff
about tell me what happened and all this

654
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.199
other stuff, and I saw that
it had an import character feature. Yeah,

655
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:35.000
I was like, man, I
don't know anything that happened in the

656
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.639
first Witcher, Like, oh man, what am I gonna do? Universe?

657
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.639
This game definitely drops you right into
that too. Yeah, but it's

658
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.920
it's I guess it's you know,
it's most like a storytelling thing, Like

659
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.199
then you go on these four tutorial
missions that tell you exactly where you're at

660
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.119
and stuff like the whole prologue I
thought was really well done. But even

661
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.960
like, but when they first present
you with the prologue, it's it's not

662
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:57.199
clear that that's what's going to happen. So I almost stopped and just went

663
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.400
like, I should read up on
what happened in Whitcher one, because he's

664
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.280
asking me a much questions about what
happened and I don't have the answer to

665
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:06.039
any of those questions. But but
even beyond that, like they don't tell

666
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.199
you how the Witcher got into this
position where he is an advisor to the

667
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.760
king or right, what the fuck
is a Witcher. Yeah, that these

668
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.719
are all these are all things that
maybe the game it eventually kind of explains

669
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.280
it. And if you get into
the journal, like the journal very explicitly

670
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.639
says what a Witcher is, so
it's it's in there, but the story

671
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:31.400
probably could have been a little more
forthcoming with that that information. And I

672
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.519
feel like that's kind of that game's
whole emo is like, yeah, it

673
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:38.039
doesn't explain the combat very well,
and there are things about the back fiction

674
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:45.239
that that aren't very explicit, but
eventually, through illusion and implication out you'll

675
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.320
figure some shit out. And you
know, it's like, you know,

676
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:53.199
the Witcher has amnesia, so it
fits, Yeah, he doesn't remember something

677
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.920
he doesn't remember, so you know, at something they'll explain that stuff.

678
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.440
Which one he starts off he doesn't
remember anything either. It's bad bad brainbox.

679
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.800
Yeah, which er one also has
not really explained much of it either,

680
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.840
which is making it more frustrating because
they figure like I'll play through the

681
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.360
Whitcher one and like I'll be all
set on this universe and it's just like,

682
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.159
no, I'm your Witcher, like
you're in Witcher World. I guess

683
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:19.079
they're based off a short story,
so that's that's the book. Well,

684
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.880
look at this way, by the
time you finish the PC version of the

685
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.320
First Whitcher, there will probably be
a console version of Which or two if

686
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.000
you want to go that route,
but I guess you won't be able to

687
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:31.039
import. So yeah, I mean
that PC game looks looks phenomenal, looks

688
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:35.679
quick. I'm kind of glad they
I'm playing on high on ultra of the

689
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.800
frame right it started to take I
can't play above low at home, so

690
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:43.559
I'm I'm stuck. I'm playing on
high. It looks great. Well,

691
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.480
it's and it's you know, it's
kind of the thing that we've been looping

692
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.760
around here and talking about of like, you know, we need PC games

693
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.199
to step some shit up, like
a game steps some ship up that game.

694
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.559
Yeah, like you couldn't make that
game look that good on a console.

695
00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.199
They're going to bring that to I
assume two consoles at some point,

696
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.239
you know, all the native game
pad shit seems like it's like, okay,

697
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.039
well this makes far too much sense
here for them to not do esventially.

698
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.320
But if they do, it's it's
gonna take a hit Nintendo launch game

699
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:15.159
for their new concert Which or two
bring it the UI is gonna make way

700
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:17.559
more sense with a touch screen in
there. Alchemy way easier. Just drag

701
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:22.079
the potions over to that those slots. It sounds like the subject matters right

702
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:28.000
up Nintendo's alley, so exactly.
Naked Bitches, that was right Reggie's Alley.

703
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.480
That was pretty much all I played. There's a lot of L one

704
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:35.199
hot new releases. Yeah, well
one hot new release and then one release

705
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.840
because of a hot new release,
because of a hot new release, Jeff

706
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.079
Gers, When you were in Los
Angeles all last week, yeah, City

707
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.559
of Angels. So I didn't play
L n nor I lived. It's actually

708
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.159
have a sealed copy of Lnoir at
home. You know that I did not

709
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.679
play over the weekend, Santa Monica, how much do you want to talk

710
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.960
about what you were doing in La? So it was like a pre show

711
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.599
week for E three stuff. So
I saw a ton of stuff related to

712
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.360
two E three games that will be
shown at E three, demos that will

713
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.599
be given in theaters at E three. You've done E three already. I

714
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.599
have seen a significant percentage of the
games that will be shown at D three,

715
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.760
but you cannot talk about most of
those until three three. Yeah,

716
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:22.519
yeah, what can you talk sonic
generations? What can you talk sonic generation?

717
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.880
What is that? That's uh,
the Sonic that Jog game, right,

718
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.960
but what is it? Is that
a compilation? No, it's not

719
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:35.159
a compilation. It is, but
it's got the Green Hill Zone in it,

720
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.000
of course, but it's actually you
know, yeah, every but it's

721
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:44.559
so it's basically like the demo they
were showing they finally brought back the Sonic

722
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.360
of my youth that I love kind
of again, yeah, all over again.

723
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.719
It's like four except except that the
physics are bad. I don't dude,

724
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.440
Yeah, I don't even know.
So the demo every other song of

725
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.440
the Hedgehog game for the last decade, the demo there were show is like

726
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:05.320
you could choose between old style or
new style, so it'll be kind of

727
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.880
like two games in one in that
sense. And the old style is you

728
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:13.639
know, it's old Sonic. He
doesn't have the homing attack, he can

729
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.000
do the spin dash. It's basically
like Sonic two move set, but all

730
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.760
new graphics. You know, it's
not the same levels from Sonic Too or

731
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.079
anything like that, but it's the
same basic idea. The camera does some

732
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.280
weird stuff like if you're running through
corkscrews or down things that a camera will

733
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:29.440
you know, tilt in ways that
it wouldn't have been able to do on

734
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.039
a Genesis. Wait, so it's
is it two D? It is a

735
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.599
two D. I mean it's not. It's Polenal graphics, but but it

736
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.159
is. It is a two D. It is a classic Sonic game.

737
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.519
That sense, all right, it'll
just do some camera tricks when you're in

738
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.000
you know, some some situations where
you're not controlling anything. So the retail

739
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:46.440
disc games is most of a Sonic
game. Yes, this is a disc

740
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.760
based game. So then they have
the other, which is the new style,

741
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:53.800
which is basically sonic colors. Like
that's hyper homing attacks. Sometimes it's

742
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:58.239
behind the back. Sometimes you're grinding
on rails, all that sort of stuff.

743
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.679
Like I guess, yeah, like
it, I guess it looks okay,

744
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:07.159
I don't know, like like it's
it's you saying you've lost the ability

745
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.639
to to think about the Hedgehog game. It looks totally pointless. Like I

746
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.239
left kind of going like why does
this even exist? Actually had to ask,

747
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.239
I was like, so what does
this mean for Sonic four? Like

748
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:19.920
you already kind of tried to make
an old new Sonic game. What the

749
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:23.039
fuck's going on? Presumably there's at
least one more episode of that. Yeah,

750
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.320
yeah, yeah, Sonic four was
Sonic four episode one, and they

751
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.800
were meant to be like at least
three episodes of that, I guess.

752
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:32.880
And and the guy doing the demo
was very quick to say, like,

753
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:36.159
oh no, no, Sonic four, that's still on. That's you know,

754
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.039
that's a that's a different game,
because the physics are all different and

755
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.119
all. This is just like like
a different thing. I was like,

756
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.280
so wait a minute, to which
I kind of wanted to say but did

757
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:45.400
not. It's like, so everyone
complained about how horrible the physics were in

758
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.000
Sonic four, so instead of just
fixing that for another episode, you're making

759
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:53.719
an entirely different game. What the
hell's going on? So I don't know

760
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.960
what they'll charge for it in the
end, but you know, it's it's

761
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:04.079
it's disc based, disc based Xbox
PlayStation three. I imagine it's we So

762
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.400
I get a pos. Maybe I
don't know, So it's the generation stuff

763
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.159
because they're like two styles. I'm
supposed to like, yeah, yeah,

764
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.360
it's like they designed two Sonics,
Like there's the kind of chubbier looking original

765
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:22.440
Sonic and yeah, like there's Sonic
and then there's another Sonic. So I

766
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.360
send us an email. They were
losing their minds over it, and I'm

767
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.960
just like this, I don't.
This just seems stupid and and yeah,

768
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.400
I basically says, I was like, I'm not I'm not going to fall

769
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.360
for this again. It stormed.
I haven't necessarily fallen. Yeah, i'ven't

770
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:39.960
fallen for a Sonic game in a
pretty long time. I've been pretty good

771
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:45.639
about I said, good day making
this, Yes, exactly. Uh,

772
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:51.119
So I can talk about that.
I think I can say I played days.

773
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.519
Let's skip that. I don't.
I don't really know. It's got

774
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:57.039
kind of hard to keep a lot
of that stuff straight. But okay,

775
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.159
uh but I can't talk about by
Shock Infinite. All right, do you

776
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.280
want do you want to talk about
BioShock Infinite? Yeah, okay, I

777
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:12.079
want to hear about BioShock infinitely.
Tell me, so, tell Vinny about

778
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.119
BioShock. Tell me about BioShock.
So, I think, barring any sort

779
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:22.960
of actual announcements of new mind blowing
products at E three, I'm pretty sure

780
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:30.159
that BioShock Infinite will be everyone's game
of show the bold claim. Yeah,

781
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:31.239
there was some other stuff that I
saw that week that you know, it

782
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.440
look pretty cool. You know,
you got your sometimes the notes you don't

783
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:40.840
play right. Definitely saw some some
cool stuff. But that game is pretty

784
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.920
awesome, pretty awesome from the demo
they gave and granted, you know,

785
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.039
so it's very guided demo. I
got to mess around with a controller and

786
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:52.119
verify that it was in fact interactive, but it doesn't necessarily I mean,

787
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.599
you know, like they played it
in a very specific way for a very

788
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.159
specific reason. So how much can
you actually talk about it? Like whatever

789
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.000
you played? Yeah, whatever,
So did they start you off in that

790
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.480
early portion? Again? It was
it was it the like the horse and

791
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.639
then the whole the crow juice and
all that stuff. No, not really.

792
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.679
This was more designed to show kind
of how the moment to moment combat

793
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.519
will work and kind of show some
of the powers that Elizabeth will have.

794
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:19.000
What's a moment to moment combat?
Like what will happen from one moment to

795
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:27.079
the next while you were playing?
Yeah, features moment to moment yea like

796
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.920
always like there's a pause and then
you select a new guy and then like

797
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:37.519
also include graphics, you know,
because there are there are mechanics that game.

798
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.840
There are things in that game that
you know, look kind of crazy,

799
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.320
like you've got your hook so you
can kind of grind on the trolley,

800
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.239
like the skytram rails and and all
that stuff, and you know,

801
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:50.320
ostensibly all the while you're fighting.
But you know, the game's not all

802
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.800
about combat. The game is really
about a battle between two factions on Columbia,

803
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:58.440
and that's the Founders and the Vox
Popular and they're they're kind of each

804
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.840
run by an individual per and you'll
interact with the leaders of these two factions.

805
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:07.000
I guess. So, do you
know if that conflict develops only in

806
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.280
accordance with the flow of the story, or is that any kind of like

807
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:14.199
a like a back and forth like
well, that conflict has already kind of

808
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.719
started going, but I guess you
will. You and Elizabeth will prove to

809
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.280
be the catalyst that kind of kicks
it into high gear. What I mean

810
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.039
is I mean, I hate to
break it down in such mechanical terms,

811
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.440
but is there any kind of like
a territory control or is there a I

812
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.039
didn't see anything like that again,
will of the people meter or anything crazy

813
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.960
like right right, it didn't seem
like that was necessarily a system, but

814
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:37.679
that it very well could be that
that I don't really know. I mean,

815
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.880
it wasn't really BioShock first one,
pretty linear game, right, very

816
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:44.639
storage. Yeah, I think that
this game will end up being very story

817
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.639
driven and very linear in the end. But that's not to say you're not

818
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:52.519
making choices. So, but it's
not necessarily like very clear kind of good

819
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.159
guy bad guys stuff. And he's
even Elizabeth, who's been you know,

820
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.360
living locked up in this tower then
has only just recently escaped and started to

821
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.519
kind of figure out what her weird
abilities are. She's not necessarily there saying

822
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.159
like, oh, make sure you
do the right thing. Like she's just

823
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:12.559
like, this guy's about to be
executed, and yeah, you can hit

824
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.440
A to stop execution, or I
could just fire my gun to stop the

825
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.760
execution, but who knows what that's
actually going to start. So what they

826
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:22.599
did in that case was hit the
button too. So they actually have a

827
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:28.719
timed kind of timed stuff in there
where the prompt comes up and says hit

828
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.480
A and below it it says stop
execution, and there's a meter filling up

829
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:36.079
around the button, so you really
only have a brief period of time to

830
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.480
think about if you're going to stop
that execution or not. When you stop

831
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.760
it, you know, it's it's
like literally like Booker to Wit going like,

832
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.800
hey, don't that guy. I
didn't do nothing. Then it returns

833
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.320
around and goes, hey, it's
that guy, and they started basically coming

834
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.280
at you, and and so it'll
end up being stuff like that. Like

835
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:57.880
one of the examples that I guess
wasn't in the demo, but they were

836
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:02.199
talking about I guess being in the
full game or or something that might show

837
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.159
up in the E three version of
them. I'm not I'm not really sure.

838
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:07.480
Is that. You know, you
see like a dentist being tossed through

839
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:12.199
a window and he's got like guys
kind of beating him up. You could

840
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.920
just kind of walk past that and
let it happen, or you could save

841
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:19.559
him, and then I guess if
you save him later on the game,

842
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.400
he might actually just be yanking out
the gold teeth of dead bodies and comes

843
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:24.559
up and goes like, hey man, thanks for saving me. He has

844
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:29.360
some gold teeth coat. Yeah.
Yeah, So it's it's that sort of

845
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.360
situation where they want to make it
ambiguous about you know, what your actions

846
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.360
are and what's really the right move. It's it's it's more about it's more

847
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.920
about Booker and Elizabeth and you know, their relationship and and making sure that

848
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.679
they escape and you know they'll have
to make some some tough choices along the

849
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:51.119
way. I guess. So,
what's that combat? Like you shoot stuff?

850
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.320
Is well left your zooms in right, No, it's so the stuff

851
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.159
of the combat is I mean,
obviously you know you saw him in the

852
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:02.000
previous video that you would get hours
sort of like the the BioShock stuff,

853
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.400
except you know you're shooting crows out
of your freehand. Deb's yeah, so

854
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:12.199
you will have that. You will
have guns, you know, pistol shotgun

855
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:20.559
RPG like guns, guns, weapons. But then Elizabeth's powers end up factoring

856
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.559
into a lot of that stuff in
what could be some pretty interesting ways,

857
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.000
like with you, like, yeah, with you. So it's it's not

858
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.320
an escort game. They're they're They've
been very clear both times we've been out

859
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:35.000
and and talked to them about it, like this is not one big escort

860
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.519
mission where you are making sure she
doesn't die, like she doesn't have a

861
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.199
gun and won't be shooting, but
she can kind of take care of herself.

862
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.880
You know, you'll see her like
kneeing guys in the growing I guess,

863
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:53.880
And basically her ability is to kind
of open tears in space time or

864
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.679
you know, or something like that, so you'll see objects in the world

865
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.840
that are not part of your world, but you can still perceive them.

866
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:06.880
So in this case, after he's
stopping the execution, everyone tries to jump

867
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.679
you, and it's it's you know, there are a lot of guys,

868
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:14.400
and so you look around and you'll
see like a kind of fuzzy barrel full

869
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:15.800
of weapons. And when you look
at these things, you'll say, open

870
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.880
tear. And then in parenthses weapons. And then for one of them,

871
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.280
there was actually kind of a trolley
like a tram or whatever coming in on

872
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:28.360
these rails and it was not it
was not phased in, and you know,

873
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:31.280
you could phase that in and its
description was cover and you hit that,

874
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:35.440
Uh, that's the one they chose
in the demo, and he just

875
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:37.559
kind of calls out, hey,
Elizabeth, open do this. She brings

876
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.719
it into this realm and then it
immediately knocks over like four guys who are

877
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:47.880
running at you, kinda so it's, uh, you know, she's not

878
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:52.119
necessarily comfortable with her powers and doesn't
know how to use them, so you

879
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.760
have to make a choice. You
can't do both. Oh so you're either

880
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:59.360
getting weapons cover. Yeah, so
you kind of have that's it, you

881
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.400
know. So you and I guess
as she gets more powerful, maybe you'll

882
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.920
be able to open two of them
and encounter or something like that. Yeah.

883
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:12.880
So one of these guys eventually gets
to this big flare launching contraption that

884
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.159
calls in a fucking zeppelin that comes
in is just like raining down rockets,

885
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:21.159
and you know, on your position, it is ridiculous, and it just

886
00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:23.119
looks great, like this whole thing
is just like you know, granted,

887
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.480
it's just like vertical slice, like
not no real indication of how the final

888
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.800
game's gonna run or anything like that. Uh, that was an Xbox I

889
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.039
believe, No, No, you
know what, it was a PC with

890
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.920
an Xbox controller. I think when
we went out there, that's what they

891
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:45.599
were showing it on. I'd assume
it was still that anyway. So you

892
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.679
know, now you have to deal
with this zeppelin and you're kind of left

893
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.920
with more choices, Like there's another
kind of barrel of weapons, and there's

894
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:59.880
also a turret, so you could
call the turret and control that instead.

895
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.000
He just jumps on one of these
like tram rails, and you know it's

896
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.480
like you just have a hook so
you can attach and sus you're on it,

897
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.559
you're gone. Like it's so fast, it's crazy how fast things move.

898
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:14.800
I mean, you know, it's
like you're used to this kind of

899
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.199
like almost like methodical pace of something
like BioShock, and just to see like

900
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:23.599
this huge environment like super vertical and
just be like I'm gonna go, and

901
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:28.840
then you catch that rail and you're
just jamming and you're fighting on the rails

902
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.599
like you're shooting guys like all the
while, you know they're kind of chasing

903
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:35.119
you, so you're turning around and
shooting at them. They aren't coming in

904
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.039
on other rails, you know,
they're jumping from run rail to the next

905
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:39.480
to try and get to you,
and eventually kind of makes his way up

906
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:43.039
to the zeppelin, which he's already
fired a few rockets at so it's already

907
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.920
kind of on fire. Gets on
the zeppelin like mows down the guys that

908
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.119
are on it, and then the
demo ended pretty much by him just jumping

909
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.199
off the side of this zeppelin and
there's just being a rail way at just

910
00:56:53.320 --> 00:57:00.079
falling for days and catching this rail
so you can just seems scripted or he

911
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.400
just like caught I mean it was
he positioned it and caught it. From

912
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:06.119
what I could see, you know, you could see little icons showing where

913
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:08.440
you're gonna land or or you know, if you jump right now, this

914
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:10.880
is where you're going to kind of
go if you want to connect from one

915
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:15.079
way l to the next. So
there clearly is a system there to let

916
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:17.159
you kind of do that stuff at
will. But that said, I mean

917
00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:20.519
the actions of this demo, but
like, make no mistake, it was

918
00:57:20.639 --> 00:57:22.519
very tightly scripted. Like like talking
to them afterwards, it was like,

919
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:24.519
yeah, there were like three spots
in the demo where it could have gone

920
00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:28.239
horribly wrong we would have to restart, but I nailed it. So like

921
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.159
you know, he had played that
thing one hundred and fifty times and literally

922
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:35.320
like you know, blow up and
like the character jumps off. You don't

923
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.440
control you control that, so I
mean, and also you didn't have to

924
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.800
go up there and do that.
You could have phased in that turret and

925
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.519
and done that. So this whole
time you're you're trying to get to this

926
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.239
guy calm Stocks place. He's the
leader of the Founders and theoretically he'll the

927
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.639
idea at least is that he'll be
able to help you with Elizabeth's powers.

928
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:59.159
And the kind of the catch on
that is that Elizabeth has been protected for

929
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:04.039
pretty much her and time o life
by this big thing called the Songbird,

930
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.000
this big creature that you know,
if you had to, if you had

931
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.079
to pick out one thing in that
game and go, that's your big daddy.

932
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.280
It's kind of like that, but
it's a giant, giant mechanical birdman.

933
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:19.320
Thing is huge and crazy looking.
We've seen like, yeah, there's

934
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.400
been there's been some stuff. Yeah, the kind of glimpses, yeah,

935
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.320
Songbird it's crazy, Like, yeah, it's awesome. It looks really nice.

936
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:32.079
And the demo actually ends with Songbird
kind of coming back to take a

937
00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:37.880
no, to take her back,
and I guess the ideas that the relationship

938
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:38.960
they are is supposed to be kind
of complicated, like, you know,

939
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.840
he is jealous of her not being
in her tower where she belongs, or

940
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.480
has been programmed or you know whatever
whatever. Songbird ends to be yeah,

941
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:53.920
if ever right. Yeah. So
the other thing is with Elizabeth's powers is

942
00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:58.440
you know, you're kind of on
your way to to Comstock's place, and

943
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.960
she sees a horse that is basically
still alive but not doing real well,

944
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.559
and she takes off and runs over
there, and it's kind of like flipping

945
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.639
out about this horse. I have
to say that, out of everything that

946
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:13.159
has been described about the world of
BioShock and fat, for some reason,

947
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.840
horses on your Flying City is the
fucking weirdest thing, Like, yeah,

948
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:22.920
why like and like, and of
both of these demos that they've shown so

949
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.639
far, horses have been pivotal yeah
in in them, which is even better.

950
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.000
Wait, dying horse. So I'm
telling some of this stuff out of

951
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:37.039
sequence. It's not necessarily in the
order that had happened. But so she

952
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.760
finds this horse and is like,
no, there's a tear here. I

953
00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:44.000
can save it. But you know, she's kind of new to her powers.

954
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:45.639
She's not real comfortable, so she's
trying to tries to open a tear

955
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.360
to maybe whin this horse was not
so beat up and on fire or whatever

956
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.639
the hell has happened to this horse, and ends up opening a tear and

957
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.800
all of a sudden, you were
in the early eighties, like really,

958
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.880
and there's a movie, a movie
Marquis that says Revenge of the Jedi.

959
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.920
A Tears for Fears song is playing, and there's a cop car screaming up

960
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:07.159
the streets in your direction, and
there's a close like they closed the tear.

961
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.519
So it did not explained that this
is even the same universe. This

962
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:15.239
could be whatever. Well it's implied
that this is all time based, that

963
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.199
it's not necessarily well, I don't
know. I mean, it could be

964
01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:22.440
it could be other dimensions. Well
it's in some dimension where it came out

965
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:23.760
as Revenge of the Jedi instead of
Return of the Jedi, right, so

966
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.480
or you know, like we don't. This is like BioShock is such a

967
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.360
weird you know schism or like you
know, fractured timeline. I was like,

968
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:35.840
was it like recognizably times Square or
something like that, or it didn't

969
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.519
look like it didn't look like any
specific area. It was just dark city

970
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.679
Street wasn't implied, but it was. Yeah, and it was just like

971
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:43.760
the future movie theater off to the
right. Yeah, no indication of it

972
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:46.199
if it was a sky city or
anything, because it was just nighttime City

973
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:50.239
Street. What the fileshot for me? That BioShock for me, I was

974
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.159
always like that kind of fallouts,
that like, oh, this is at

975
01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:57.079
some point in the past things went
left instead of right, and like,

976
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:00.400
well, is it's so far in
the future that it's the past again.

977
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:04.119
Well, like it's like a it's
like a, isn't it just like things

978
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.119
went differently? Yeah, things went
bad so far in the past that things

979
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.320
never fall fall fallout is alternate history
from like nineteen fifty on world, different

980
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:13.639
stuff happened. And that's kind of
how I always felt about BioShock. It

981
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:15.639
was like, oh, you know, like it kind of went like this

982
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.880
similar alternate direction, so like except
that every should have never gotten except that

983
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:23.119
everything that's happening. I mean this
this brings up some some different shit as

984
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:28.719
far as kind of overall like BioShock
universe continuity. But you know, the

985
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:31.639
original bios are the first two Bioshocks
are pretty much taking place completely out of

986
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:35.440
sight of the rest of the world. No one else, you know,

987
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.239
we don't have any any evidence that
anyone else in the world fucking knows that

988
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.880
all of this crazy shit is happening. Yeah, the only connection of water

989
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:44.639
there's a plane, because that's how
the dude gets there. So I know

990
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.599
there's at some point we know that
there's still planes. Yeah, but like,

991
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:50.000
yeah, you open up a riff
like that and tell me, like

992
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.760
this nineteen eight it could be the
future, Like I have no idea when

993
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:59.000
that sky city is supposed to be
happening is happening in a very specific time.

994
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:01.599
It's yeah, yeah, they did
date it, but but like so

995
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:07.320
it's in like an actual like nineteen
yeah, it's it's the teen space Okay,

996
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.239
it's like, you know, they
invented into some World's fair or something,

997
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.159
this American sky City. But then
that American sky City decides to launch

998
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:21.800
an attack against China, which point
the US has to kind of disavow.

999
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.920
At that point, it just takes
off and disappears, and you're an ex

1000
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.440
Pinkerton this booker to wit guy and
someone comes to you and says, hey,

1001
01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:31.000
I needed to find this girl.
By the way, she's on Columbia,

1002
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.559
and by the way, I know
where Columbia is. So have they

1003
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:38.519
ever said that this is in the
same universe as BioShock and BioShock Rapture style

1004
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.920
BioShock, or if they I'm not
sure. If they've they've kind of come

1005
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:49.119
forward. If it is, it
would be before those events, thirty years

1006
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:51.639
before the events of Rapture. Yeah, I didn't know. That put a

1007
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.239
hard day down. Yeah, well, I mean it. Yeah, it's

1008
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:59.199
like they are trying to pull a
very specific kind of esthetic tone for that

1009
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.920
much as they did with with the
original Bioshop. It's just it's it is

1010
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:05.199
more of that turn to Centu,
but it's gays in New York. It's

1011
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:07.119
that kind of ship. At one
point, there's an Abraham Lincoln gag in

1012
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:12.119
there, so there's some Abraham Lincoln
exists in this universe. But there's also

1013
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:15.559
like mechanical horses and stuff, right, like there's there's yeah, I mean

1014
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:19.000
technology. It's it's technology to run
wild, which sort of like how Rapture

1015
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:21.360
was. Right, it's, you
know, these guys left to their own

1016
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:25.000
devices without the limits of morality or
whatever. The hand of the man coming

1017
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.280
down the great chain. They picked
it up, and that's cool. That's

1018
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.719
that's exciting because I had no idea
what that game was shaping up to be.

1019
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.199
Uh, you know, I thought
I had a pretty good idea,

1020
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:37.719
but after seeing some of that stuff, I'm not even sure anymore, like

1021
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:42.679
it's I think at that point,
like once you show something like that,

1022
01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.880
yeah, like that game can go
anywhere. David, Are they talking about

1023
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:50.199
dates for that next year? Okay? Sometimes I don't want to know anything

1024
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:53.280
else. That's it. I don't
you know too much already. That's yeah,

1025
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:58.159
I'm good. Just let me know
when it's done. It looked fantastic.

1026
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:05.119
It's like the characters and stuff just
look great. The interactions. There's

1027
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.519
a bit of downtime at the beginning
where they're showing some kind of exploration stuff

1028
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:14.760
going through this kind of abandoned store
looking for money and other stuff like that,

1029
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.239
and you know, the interaction between
Booker and Elizabeth just seems really genuine

1030
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:23.679
and interesting and also like that that
part seems really dynamic, where you know,

1031
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.599
they've kind of lined up a bunch
of things that might happen if you're

1032
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:30.559
standing in the right place. And
Elizabeth gets to say a giant, funny

1033
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:34.239
Abraham Lincoln head and puts it on
oh and makes it and I was like,

1034
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.159
oh, I'm gonna be fourst coorse, oun't you you know. It's

1035
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:42.400
like it's just kind of funning around
in the downtime, you know, and

1036
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.559
also like Booker will kind of talk
to himself. It's not like full on

1037
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.039
silent protagonists. Like he's like opening
up cast Red cash registers and go to

1038
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:55.280
a scratch okay, picking up guns
and talking about Roscoe's you know, like

1039
01:04:55.320 --> 01:04:58.519
that sort of stuff. So he
is a character, yes, okay,

1040
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.079
yes, what I care? Do
you think it'll be? It's a really

1041
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:04.159
good character name. Also, yeah, I like it. So I keep

1042
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:08.719
thinking of Ellis de Wald from Beverly
Hills Cop three. It's okay, I

1043
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.440
think somebody will be shown that off
at a press conference this year. I

1044
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:16.039
think that'll be an on stage kind
of like I can't imagine. I mean

1045
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.719
this, this demo that I saw
was going to be shown in a theater

1046
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:26.559
at every half hour, so right, okay, yeah I want to see

1047
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.239
it. Yeah we can. I
have very excited. I have asked some

1048
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.480
questions about how can I make sure
that the rest of these guys get in

1049
01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.199
to see this demo? And they
say, I just let us know.

1050
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:35.800
Oh man, I don't know if
I want to see it. Now.

1051
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:42.239
What's after a description like that?
That's just you know, that's that's he

1052
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.760
knows now enough, Brad now knows
that it'll be really good. Yeah,

1053
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.400
And that's that kind of kind of
we had good reason to suspect before it

1054
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:54.159
would be good. It's time to
go in a blackouts. It just it

1055
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:57.400
looks fantastic. And wait, I
can't I can't underscore that enough that it

1056
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:02.000
just the interaction between the two characters
just seems like it is on some real

1057
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:06.559
next level type shit looks really nice. I especially have the regrettable experience of

1058
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:12.000
knowing everything about BioShock before I played
it, I mean everything. Yeah,

1059
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:15.559
so I really want to avoid that. I think they're probably gonna do do

1060
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:17.679
a little better about this stuff was
the case. This was a case of

1061
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:21.800
like people pirting the game and these
broilers on forums and stuff like just like

1062
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:27.280
three days that stuffs hard to you
know. But yeah, just in terms

1063
01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:29.639
of like, you know, I
think this is the right amount of teasing

1064
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.320
to say, like, by the
way, she is capable of some weird

1065
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:35.159
stuff. That's what things are going
to have in this game. That's this

1066
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:40.800
You won't expect they're showing that eighties
stuff. Now if they're willing that the

1067
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.400
thing they're teasing with, what did
they give you any sense of like how

1068
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:48.079
deep into the game you were when
they showed that that was like a third

1069
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.880
or halfway somewhere on there. Okay, it wasn't necessarily late game stuff.

1070
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.440
Okay, but it wasn't necessarily first
five minutes r either. Right. Well,

1071
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:58.880
the whole thing is that she will, you know, she will develop

1072
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:00.159
over the course of the game,
Like she has a very kind of defined

1073
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:01.960
arc that you know, by the
end of the game, she'll be a

1074
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:08.039
lot more comfortable with her abilities and
a lot further along. So theoretically she

1075
01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:14.159
won't be accidentally opening portals to other
times. So I'll do it. Yeah,

1076
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:20.760
what else you see a bunch of
other stuff. I feel like that's

1077
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.760
gonna be a really hard game to
start covering at some point if if it

1078
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:29.119
does get that crazy where you just
I just think that, you know,

1079
01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.039
it's like, well, you figure, when did the when does that game

1080
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.960
come out? Like when do you
shift that game next year? Is it

1081
01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:39.480
an early twenty twelve or is the
mid to late twenty twelve. I think

1082
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:43.239
that's that's gonna determine how many more
times they show it. You figure they

1083
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:46.280
show it here, then it's like
do they do anything new for games?

1084
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:50.079
Calm, Like, I don't I
almost don't think they need to because that's

1085
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:54.280
still relatively close. Yeah, but
two K likes showing off their games a

1086
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.360
lot, and this is this is
not rock Star, this is two K.

1087
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:00.480
Rock Star will always play it super
close to the vest UK, will

1088
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:04.480
always trot their shit out. But
two kPr does not run irrational. Irrational

1089
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:09.920
has its own PR. But two
K can still run that stuff out.

1090
01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:13.880
I guess they just maybe are can
do it. They have to do it

1091
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.560
without irrational people. I don't know. I don't know what that relationship is

1092
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:23.199
like. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know. I don't either, but

1093
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.239
I bet they have a level of
control over how that game is exposed that

1094
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.239
would prevent people from showing it too
frequently, or or making sure that new

1095
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:34.680
stuff gets generated specifically to show.
I think they could get away with like

1096
01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:41.880
two more pieces of two more chunks
like this, like the first one they

1097
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.920
put out. In this one,
you know there's significant ship it, yeah,

1098
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:50.520
significant bits. Well it sounds exciting. I'm excited. Brad Shoemaker,

1099
01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:56.600
you play anything other than replaying El
Noir Man, Yeah? I mean I

1100
01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:00.359
don't fault you, so, yeah, I I restarted after playing the PSGRE

1101
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.000
version that you gave me last week
and then my three sixty versions showed up,

1102
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:09.960
so I was kind of re catching
up through those first three hours or

1103
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:15.920
whatever. It was interesting just seeing
uh, you know, some stories playing

1104
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:19.760
out ever so slightly differently, or
or like oh I found this other piece

1105
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:24.680
of evidence and that makes like this
part of this investigation go a lot more

1106
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:28.439
smooth. Yeah. Definitely had that
experience too, And I find that I'm

1107
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:32.960
really good at at collecting evidence and
I have about fifty percent or slightly higher

1108
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:38.039
success rate with the interrogations. So
I just have to roll with that stuff.

1109
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:42.159
Yeah, why are you laughing just
breaking down your stats of like,

1110
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.880
oh, yeah, well, because
they tell you all that shit. When

1111
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:46.920
it's over, it's like you found
x out of x pieces of evidence and

1112
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:54.079
you successfully got through these interrogation points. It's like someone sat down and said,

1113
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:56.560
we like those CSI games where we're
gonna make a really good one.

1114
01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:00.199
It kind of it kind of is
way bigger budget. It's it's like they

1115
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:03.239
took the CSI game and then added
Phoenix right to it. Yeah, and

1116
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:09.600
then said it in nineteen forties.
I can't wait to start playing that game.

1117
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:14.800
I'm gonna start tonight. It's neat. It's pretty neat, yeah,

1118
01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:16.119
which is like the funny thing is
like, as soon as something like this

1119
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.279
comes out, like the bomb cast, email just floods with people being like,

1120
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:21.439
well, what do you think if
they set a game like this in

1121
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.479
this universe that I'm like, I
don't after playing this game. Guess what,

1122
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.680
I'm not gonna want it to immediately
play this game again, right,

1123
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.239
Like the idea of like, well
here's a hot idea. Everyone should jump

1124
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:35.399
on this, Like no, don't, don't do that. Everyone keep going

1125
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:41.000
and trying other shits. I want
to have multiple experiences, not just like,

1126
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.359
yes, this one was good,
but I could also see this one

1127
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:47.279
being handled really badly. This game
could have been complete shit if it didn't

1128
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:50.680
have you know, the development time, the technology and everything else that they

1129
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:57.680
polished to detail, like the kind
of period appropriate setting and everything, like

1130
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:00.039
all the research they did, I
mean a lot about that game could have

1131
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:04.359
been extremely awful, ye, all
of it. Yeah, the the you

1132
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:09.479
know, ambition does not necessarily equal
aptitude, definitely not, but in this

1133
01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:14.600
case, they pulled it off.
Indeed, I've been I've been playing through

1134
01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:16.840
the New Red Fashion game, which
I'm not yet at Liberty to discuss oh

1135
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:21.760
Armageddon. Yes, uh, how
appropriate. Notwithstanding the quality of the game,

1136
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:26.239
though, I have to give an
a plus or five stars to thhq's

1137
01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.640
effort to get us that game this
early. Yes, Ray and bravo and

1138
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.479
well done, thanks Neil. Almost
never get games. I mean this is

1139
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:38.319
god three weeks that's that's a week
of B three, or almost three weeks

1140
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:42.560
before that game is actually on shelves. We got a retailed disc that will

1141
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:47.119
play in pretty close to it.
Do you think it has something to do

1142
01:11:47.119 --> 01:11:50.119
with awareness of like, well E
three is coming up, and we understand

1143
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:53.680
it was a bare disc and a
sleeve, so it's probably just like,

1144
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.399
hey, we got these in which
I think it's very specifically like this game

1145
01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.479
ships the week of E three and
there's also no One's points. Yeah,

1146
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:02.640
we're in a weird we're in a
weird bind with like there's three games or

1147
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:08.079
two two Infamous, Infamous, Too
Infamous, and this. I think some

1148
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:13.239
of those ones the week of the
week right after that week, isn't I

1149
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:15.880
thought that was like the twenty first
they push it. I don't. It's

1150
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.319
it's right in that wheelhouse. There
was. It was because the following week

1151
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:26.720
is like Alice and Duke's Duke and
child of Eden. Oh really, yeah,

1152
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.640
what did that happen? I don't
know, but that's that's that's when.

1153
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:30.399
That's what's the end of the It's
the end of the quarter. It's

1154
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:33.800
coming out the fourteenth June is the
end of the quarters. So everyone's got

1155
01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:38.840
a pump stuff out of necessity those
but these don't feel like your usual like

1156
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:42.439
end of the quarter pumps. You
know, this is all like relevant.

1157
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:45.439
I'm listening all games that I am
very eager to see and play all that

1158
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.840
stuff, and we definitely need to
cover all of that stuff. But three,

1159
01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:53.640
I'll say that maybe I'm not so
interested in anything that Alice has to

1160
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:58.039
offer. I'm saying after seeing it
playing it, I'm I'm definitely eager to

1161
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:00.600
play some Alice like you guys have
seen more of it than I have.

1162
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:01.640
But I just I don't know something
about that. I don't even care,

1163
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.560
actually doesn't. I don't even care
about the original like I have noah,

1164
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:10.199
no fondness for the origin. I
never played it original, but the new

1165
01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.239
ones. Yeah, well you get
to play the original again with achievements.

1166
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:17.880
I'm not I probably won't. They've
got yeah, it's actually part of the

1167
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:24.319
part of the New Alice's achievement set
has achievements for Old Alice in it because

1168
01:13:24.319 --> 01:13:28.800
it's part of that whole online passing. Anyway, I'll be good on them

1169
01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.199
for you know, like we will
review and quick look this game before E

1170
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:35.439
three because we can, because they
make we can do. So. Yeah,

1171
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:43.479
does it take place on Mars?
I can't answer. I can't answer.

1172
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:47.760
Are you waiting for Armageddon or has
Armageddon already occurred? What can you

1173
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:55.960
tell me about geomod technology? Break
stuff so too much? Someone someone wrote

1174
01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.279
me in some form somewhere. It's
really specific I know, and said,

1175
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:05.039
Hey, isn't Red Faction Armageddon just
Epic Mickey but with guns instead of paint,

1176
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:09.760
because like the whole thing is you
have the break stuff gun and the

1177
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:13.600
build stuff gun. Yeah, so
it's just like paint thinner versus point.

1178
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:15.479
Hey, you know what, Epic
Mickey was great in concept, It was

1179
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:20.039
just in mechanical execution that was the
problem. So yeah, sure, it's

1180
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:25.319
it's like I can confirm that the
break stuff and remake stuff aspect is in

1181
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:30.239
the game. You're willing to go
that far put your neck out like that

1182
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:32.079
bold of you so, uh,
I mean, I figured I should do

1183
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.479
my due diligence. I never I
never got around the playing Gorilla a couple

1184
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:39.720
of years ago when it came out. Really so I fired that up.

1185
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:43.920
That's a good game on the PC. It's fucking fun. Yeah, I

1186
01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:47.600
get's stupid, stupid, awesome,
excellent fun. You can get a little

1187
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.760
along, and I can some stretches
could get I barely made it into the

1188
01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:56.279
second kind of zone or whatever,
and I can already see how it could

1189
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.439
probably get pretty repetitive over time,
but it still remains fun. But man,

1190
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.399
just run around blowing shit up,
Like just the way stuff explodes in

1191
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:03.800
that game, the way the explosives
work, the way you're like, I'm

1192
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:08.479
just gonna run this truck into that
building or just something what happened. And

1193
01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:10.960
some of the weapons later on are
actually where they think you get, like

1194
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:15.319
the nano gun or something, and
you're literally just like the synec Yeah,

1195
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:17.800
even just even now, just getting
to throw a light dinner but a gun,

1196
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.399
think about it, think about it
throwing like three sticky charges inside of

1197
01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:29.119
building its strategic points, and the
sticky charges are favorite awesome. It's good.

1198
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:32.960
Their technology for some reason works really
well straight. Well, that reason

1199
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:36.039
is probably they're very smart guys working
on it, But like you expect something

1200
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:41.239
like that to not really work and
then consistently keeps working, and you're like

1201
01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:45.039
that it seems kind of natural.
That has weight, sure that should even

1202
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:49.359
just like the stuff where like you
put a hole in something and it takes

1203
01:15:49.399 --> 01:15:54.439
a little while for like the structure
for like, yeah, the load that

1204
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:56.880
that has put on to the rest
of the structure. So you're like,

1205
01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:01.560
they did not employ they did not
hit it with a sledgehammer for a second,

1206
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:04.039
No civil engineers were employed in the
making of this game. Like,

1207
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:08.399
they did not you know, it
did not test for structural integrity on this

1208
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:10.560
stuff, you know. But it's
funny, like you can almost there are

1209
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.760
moments in the in that game and
in Gorilla specifically, where you can see

1210
01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:17.560
the game like crunching the numbers of
like collapse. Should this thing stay up?

1211
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:20.079
No? Up? There goes?
Yeah, no, that's gotta go.

1212
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:25.239
And the thing I really love about
that game too, is like it

1213
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:29.760
consistently works like that, right,
But I always would find myself surprised that

1214
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:33.000
I was underneath that building as I
was using a Oh yeah, I did

1215
01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:36.119
take this beer out. I've noticed
that no, no, oh, I

1216
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:39.960
should have been on the outside.
Wait does that end up killing you?

1217
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:45.399
Or yeah? I noticed that he
has like the strongest skull in history.

1218
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:48.039
Can get Yeah, you can have
things bear quite a bit of weight.

1219
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.479
On topic, it's when those towers
as big towers just comes back the smoke

1220
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:57.640
stack. Yeah, and it just
thinking of a specific encounter or something where

1221
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.359
he had knocked down a smoke stack
and it was it was one of those

1222
01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:05.800
like you only have three you have
two bullets and three of these challenges containers

1223
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:10.079
or whatever to knock down. This
tower just came down and one of those

1224
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:13.199
Yeah, just like like okay,
I blew a hole out of it,

1225
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.159
and I'm kind of looking at it. I'm walking around like I don't know

1226
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:19.880
if that's gonna do it, and
then oh eight, it comes on my

1227
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:24.199
skull. So did you guys all
finish the story in that game, because

1228
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:26.680
I mean looking at the size of
the world and the number of missions there

1229
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:29.600
are, and you know, it's
kind of a one track experience by the

1230
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:30.520
end of it. By the end
of it, it was like I was

1231
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.720
a bit of a drag. I
was wondering if they could keep the momentum,

1232
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:35.800
and so there are definitely mission types
that you just kind of don't want

1233
01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:40.119
to do, like the hostage rescue
stuff later on like that. That's that's

1234
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.039
a game that you want to kind
of just play on Easy. Yeah,

1235
01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.720
It's it's a lot It's a lot
more fun that way. I've never seen

1236
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:49.760
a game so universally thought to be
the best Uneasy, Like everything I've ever

1237
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.640
read about that game on every forum
and everywhere it is like just played on

1238
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.840
Easy. It's kind of like it's
just it lets you focus on the parts

1239
01:17:56.840 --> 01:17:58.840
of that game that are that are
really well done, right, It's kind

1240
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:01.880
of been more unished where you're just
they built a great engine and some physics

1241
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:04.720
stuff and then you just want to
go and play with all the toys.

1242
01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:10.239
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean
Mars is probably it's it's a tough environment

1243
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.159
to keep visually interesting, you know. It's like you're moving from one arity

1244
01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:15.600
to the other. It's the cars. Everything is red and now everything is

1245
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:16.880
kind of a grayish red, you
know, and you see a lot of

1246
01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.239
the same like structurally, like you
see a lot of I'm sure all that

1247
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:25.680
stuff is very pretty fab It gets
recycled pretty rapidly, but it's it's honestly,

1248
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.800
it's the wide open spaces in that
game that and you know it's kind

1249
01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:30.479
of part of the thing that makes
it feel like Mars, but you know,

1250
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:32.720
it just kills the pace on on
Gorilla of like, fuck, I

1251
01:18:32.760 --> 01:18:39.159
gotta get all the way over this
other place and yeah something because there is

1252
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:43.560
there. Yeah, really super late
game. Although yeah, all this should

1253
01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:46.640
be like a I know, it
makes getting over those like a halfway at

1254
01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:50.720
most kind of thing. Oh that's
a bum. There's no fits. I

1255
01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:54.119
forget the jet pack. I forget
some I remember being one of those things

1256
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:55.760
where I got it and I was
just like, man, this is pretty

1257
01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.880
cool. This would have really made
the everything I just played and the handbook.

1258
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.880
There's like air vehicles as well of
some kind a gunship kind of looking

1259
01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:10.399
thing, and so there's no fast
travel or anything. I think you can

1260
01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:15.239
fast travel between bases Baska, but
it's one of those games where it's weird.

1261
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:17.840
It's like, I feel like it's
even a dated mechanic now where you're

1262
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:23.600
like building up faction rep Point.
I kind of enjoy like I and like

1263
01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:27.560
Infamous, I conquered every single territory
there was to conquer. Yeah, like

1264
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:30.319
like I've set out in in in
Guerrilla to do that, but some of

1265
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:36.640
those mission types up but random like
like wanton destruction also contributes to that number.

1266
01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:39.479
So that's pretty cool, right.
So yeah, you get to the

1267
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:42.840
point where there's almost like you've kind
of destroyed all the easy stuff and it's

1268
01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:44.600
all of a sudden like, oh, now I have to go rescue these

1269
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.359
guys and it's mission I really got
to go way out of my way to

1270
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:51.319
find anything to even blow up.
Yeah. Yeah, it pitches you a

1271
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.039
little bit at the end that stuff, but yeah, it's having a lot

1272
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:59.039
of fun with it so far.
I need to find a way to play

1273
01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:02.279
PC game on my TV. It
doesn't involve moving the computer. So are

1274
01:20:02.319 --> 01:20:04.279
you playing on a PC? Yeah, I'm playing the PC version. It

1275
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:09.119
looks great. I mean that was
gonna be more questions, sixty sixty frames,

1276
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:12.399
like maxed out everything. We are
really just in that point of like

1277
01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:16.760
is it the PC version or the
console version? I remember it wasn't Red

1278
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:19.560
Faction in the game that was like
kind of broken on PC. I think

1279
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.199
I remember there being a lot of
issues. So I ended up buying that

1280
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:28.399
on PC on some Steam sale or
Yeah, I had an immedia immediately regretting

1281
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:30.920
it because it just didn't run right. And then you know, going to

1282
01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:34.239
like the Steam message board for it, and it's just full of people bitching

1283
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:38.079
out how fuck that game is.
And it's like, oh, Volition came

1284
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.760
out and said they're not gonna make
any more patches, guys. So if

1285
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:43.840
it's broken, it's still broken.
It pulled out a patch when I started,

1286
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.079
and it's it's totally been fun since
I started playing it. I mean,

1287
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:48.159
I have a different computer now,
so maybe it wouldn't be an issue.

1288
01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:50.199
I mean, but if I had
had the Xbox version, I would

1289
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:53.680
have played that, right, But
I happened to have the PC version.

1290
01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:57.880
It's not like I've taken a stand
here or anything. Yeah, regardless,

1291
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.760
we need to find a solution.
You guys, doings of your carrying into

1292
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.640
the table. I had to take
away a thing from Vinnie, so breaking

1293
01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:09.039
the table, carve into the table
anymore. It's like he's bored in Civics

1294
01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:13.760
class. No prison visit you want
to come to and put that on my

1295
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:21.600
desk? Are we getting very in
very different game? Different? Yeah?

1296
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:26.399
I mean it's a you know,
this is not open World review related at

1297
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:29.840
all to say that it's a linear
shooter. Oh yeah, you tell me

1298
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:31.840
I don't blow stuff up? And
I understand we've seen it. I can

1299
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:36.359
I can see the like losing the
open world element after remembering some of the

1300
01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:41.359
things about the open world in in
Grilla like that that could help that experience.

1301
01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.600
All you gotta do is tell me
where to go and shoot my gun.

1302
01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:46.840
Give me up. I'm fine.
Don't you don't even tell me what

1303
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:50.199
what I could pick the blow up
be like in this mission? Go there,

1304
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:55.119
blow up? Okay, got it
great? Are there people underneath that

1305
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:59.319
building? Fanats that helps? That's
that don't make things? Makes it more

1306
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:03.319
fun for me? Stick like that? All right? So any ideas about

1307
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:10.000
my PC? We gotta figure this
out as it is right now, just

1308
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:16.239
hto two. Layout of my house
is not such that's at all feasible at

1309
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.800
all at all, not at all
across the room do they would have to

1310
01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:26.039
go out of the room the computer
is in and down the hall and across

1311
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:30.000
like two footpaths by bireless HDMI.
So that's the thing. I mean,

1312
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:33.560
I know that technology. How would
you get the controller put too much latency?

1313
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.880
Or how would your keyboard and your
mask can us communicate again, that's

1314
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.760
the problem. I think you need
to get a Shuttle PC and put it

1315
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:46.000
into your living room. I think
you need to get that computer another.

1316
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:51.319
Buying another computer is given is admitting
defeat. Basically, I don't know compute

1317
01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:56.560
in the living room. That's also
not going to happen. Well, then

1318
01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.640
then you're not gonna play games in
your living room and then get a new

1319
01:22:59.680 --> 01:23:02.840
TV and put that into your computer, make your little room in computer rooms,

1320
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.960
you're gonna have to get something and
put it somewhere else. That's w

1321
01:23:06.520 --> 01:23:12.600
was selling like forty inch TV at
ten adptvs like three fifty four hundred dollars

1322
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:15.600
recently, like the house brand.
I just done the just buying one of

1323
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:17.880
those. I'm just putting next to
the computer for stuff like this. But

1324
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:21.600
you basically, it's not the TV. It's not just the TV. Yes,

1325
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:27.319
because sitting at a desk and using
a game pad is not very comfortable

1326
01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:30.439
or it's very awkward. It's nowhere
to like put your hands. It's I

1327
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.720
just like my couches. Couches are
also pretty cool, you do. I

1328
01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:40.159
mean you're talking about pretty much using
a controller from because using a keyboard and

1329
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.079
mouse on a couch and it sucks
absolutely. I hate using I hate playing

1330
01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:46.880
games on my couch gas that are
made from PC. I play on a

1331
01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:49.760
monitor at a desk with Masse keyboard
and that's it. But like this game,

1332
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.199
the mouse movement actually feels kind of
bad in this game. It's very

1333
01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:58.199
clearly made for a console. Yeah, in this I think you gotta get

1334
01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:03.279
you gotta get that computer close to
your Smith drilled a hole between his office

1335
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:08.640
and his living room and ranch cable
and got the wireless three sixty. But

1336
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:10.760
he also owns his house. But
yeah, he's able to do that.

1337
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.399
Even if I owned this building,
I would not. This is just the

1338
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:15.840
layout is just not suitable for you. Go out a window, coming man,

1339
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:23.920
HDMI cables in the walls, Hdmi
over electric lines solution anyway, You

1340
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:27.800
just run HDMI in the walls,
they make little plates and ship your house.

1341
01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:30.479
Well yeah, if you did though, if you did that, I

1342
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:33.159
was always afraid. I was just
talking to Will again about this about if

1343
01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:36.079
I were to buy a house and
do that, then, like, are

1344
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:41.279
you the dude twenty years later who
has like HDMI ports were like or like

1345
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:44.279
you'd have s video ports basically like
today or something like that, and be

1346
01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:48.039
like I just it was cool at
the time, but man, I don't

1347
01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:53.600
know the track. Yeah, no, absolutely, because I think fucking wires

1348
01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:59.239
are incredibly dumb. It'll it won't
be long. Remember like we used to

1349
01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:02.960
have wires is everywhere like physical like
like a piece of metal thing that you

1350
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:08.039
would use to connect devices together.
But weird. I don't know if they

1351
01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:11.079
do that. Why didn't they just
use wireless? It doesn't make any sense.

1352
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:15.600
Mean, wireless HTMI has been around, like they that worked, but

1353
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:19.680
the latency is just the latency playing
a game. There's a lot of wireless

1354
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:25.159
wireless television, but I couldn't play
games on it. I think the thing

1355
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:28.600
is, though, you'll always have
wireless and then it'll always have a better

1356
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.840
thing over wired, so until it
gets such a diminishing return where like,

1357
01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:35.239
yeah, you're over your wireless HD
man, but I've got wired you know,

1358
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:40.039
Hologram whatever, and like, oh
well when that comes twenty one sixty

1359
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:45.039
over wires, over wireless, you're
still only running. Wait is that super

1360
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:49.239
high vision or I thought that was
even higher than that. It's probably exists

1361
01:25:49.279 --> 01:25:53.479
already. That's just it. You're
not gonna see anytime. I'm telling that

1362
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:57.760
Buddy Smart captured gear anyway. No, it's like it's theoretical right now.

1363
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.199
It's like, No, they've made
screens for ADP. They actually in Japan.

1364
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:03.640
It's like one of those things where
like they made make the standards for

1365
01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:09.199
HD in like nineteen sixty seven,
early eighties is when HD was developed.

1366
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:13.000
But no, I mean like n
HK set the standards for ten ADP in

1367
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:15.640
nineteen sixty seven. I'm sure about
that. I'm pretty sure it was the

1368
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:17.960
early eighties. No, I've looked. I've looked extensively into that. I

1369
01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:25.359
met, we made out about it, But I don't know if Jeff would

1370
01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:27.920
be into it. Whoever makes out
the most wins, I'd be into watching

1371
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:34.960
it. I don't know anyway.
The sadly, the review embargo for Arbageddon

1372
01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:41.840
is even passed the next podcast and
then we'll beat three, so well,

1373
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:45.680
the last you'll ever hear about Red
Faction on this podcast. That's unfortunate.

1374
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:48.079
By the time we get back to
a podcast and aren't talking about e three

1375
01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.199
things that that game will be ancient
history. Yeah, but look for a

1376
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:59.239
review in a quick flo sweet I
went to a parade on Saturday for what

1377
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:04.079
to watch? It not your reason? Oh why was there a parade?

1378
01:27:04.520 --> 01:27:09.439
It's the fucking the Luther Burbank Rose
Parade. Happens in Santa Rosa every year

1379
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:12.680
for like the last one hundred and
eighteen years. Wow, who's Luther Burbank.

1380
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:17.239
He's a horror culturist who lived in
uh or the Santa Rosa area.

1381
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.479
It's just just north of Pedaluma,
where I lived. Did he found Burbank

1382
01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:26.720
beautiful downtown Burbank? No, he
grew Roses. I saw Gallagher at the

1383
01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:32.039
Luther Burbank Center when I was in
junior high. That fucking terrible. He

1384
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:38.479
didn't blow your mind with this is
cat now it says bat Occasionally I had

1385
01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:43.720
to pull up the plastic sheet though
so close. Yeah. Wow, it's

1386
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:49.079
like graduation present pressive. That's cool. That is a unique experience that people

1387
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:57.159
have row. Right, is he
still alive? Yeah? Him and his

1388
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:00.279
brother hanging out with Michael Stipe or
are they seeing each other still? And

1389
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:04.039
then like one steal the auting like
that? I think real Gallagher, though,

1390
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:08.439
is has gone like super duper crazy. Oh yeah, it was always

1391
01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:12.600
a little but like he's lost the
comedy bit. Yeah. Now it's just

1392
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:16.479
like scary, tragic, kind of
just still wearing the hat storming out of

1393
01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:20.600
podcast the most tragic part. The
suspenders were pretty trap. No, I

1394
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:25.079
don't think he wears the hat anymore. I think he's just celebrating his extreme

1395
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.520
baldness with the with the curtains hanging
down. No, no ze, do

1396
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:33.520
you get buff or something? You
know you didn't care to top again doing

1397
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:38.960
cycles of the juice, staring each
other really intensely for hours of the time.

1398
01:28:39.119 --> 01:28:46.479
Pete ninety. Oh Gallagh, she's
watermelons. Now he just uses his

1399
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.399
fists, doesn't even need the hammer
anymore. That's what they should do in

1400
01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:54.760
BioShock, Infant opens a rift and
Gallagher jumps out and just smashes all your

1401
01:28:54.880 --> 01:29:03.159
enemies, and you can summon Gallagher
the next final fantasy, My protector Gallagher

1402
01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:10.600
Gallagher. That would be an awesome
movem flying up and there's a million tiny

1403
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:16.399
watermelons spinning around him. Sorry,
guys, I can't talk about this is

1404
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:20.560
the direction final face he really needs
to go in like someone bad like eighties

1405
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:25.560
and nineties comics to like do their
bits. We took it in a different

1406
01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:27.479
direct, but we'll just take us, like you know, Kingdom Hars was

1407
01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:30.239
good, but working with Disney was
such a pain. As we find Jeff

1408
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:36.159
Doneham much more receptive to our ideas. So here comes Stephen Wright when his

1409
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:45.319
racists, he puts people to see
character. Here comes Platypus Man. Oh

1410
01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:47.840
you never watched Platypus Man. I
think it's his real name. I don't

1411
01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:50.920
know. This is this I'm going
through my like comic relief stuff now right

1412
01:29:50.920 --> 01:29:56.359
now, summoned Kevin Meaney. You
go through comic release? Are you like

1413
01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:59.840
watching the old tapes? Yeah?
So by my marathon of comic relief,

1414
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:04.319
like man Whoopy Goldberg was everything in
like eighty seven and eighty eight. She

1415
01:30:04.439 --> 01:30:08.319
was pretty sure it's crazy. She
was all right, yeah, not bad.

1416
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:13.439
Rob Williams always kind of weird,
and Billy Crystal just never could just

1417
01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:17.119
never good. Billy Crystal always poison. That's what I learned from watching all

1418
01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:23.000
comic relief. Billy crist is the
new Bob Hope, and Elaine Boosler is

1419
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:26.680
still kind of hot. I can't
tell you why, but still throw it

1420
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:30.000
at her if I could. I'm
with you. Yeah, all right,

1421
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:34.159
let's talk about some or Judy Tanuda. Sure, yeah, I was married

1422
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:39.720
Demo Phillips. We had this conversation. You were talking about your hate of

1423
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:42.560
Judy Tano. You can't even pull
the name for Judy Tanuda. It was

1424
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.920
it was Judy with the accordion,
all right, I looked it up.

1425
01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:49.960
Incredible, Judy ten eighty defined in
nineteen seventy nine first demonstrated nineteen eighty one.

1426
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:54.399
Well, what's the HK thing?
It was? That was an HK

1427
01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:58.880
in nineteen seventy nine. Oh well, okay, then they were they were

1428
01:30:59.000 --> 01:31:03.720
doing crazy hds W. Yeah,
British, we're doing it like the thirties.

1429
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:09.760
Different different TV standards have been in
development, yeah, consistently in many

1430
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:15.159
countries indeed. Yeah, all right, yeah, that's the case in Elie

1431
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:20.560
Noir. Break the HD case.
Uh screen, Let's see here. What's

1432
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:25.920
going on news? All right,
Craig, Hey, what's going on in

1433
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.880
the news, buddy? What's up
with the PSN? Still down in Japan

1434
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:34.680
because the Japanese government won't let them
bring it back up until they make it

1435
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:39.920
ser Yeah, until they tell the
Japanese that we're going to happen relatively shortly

1436
01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:43.720
though. Store still down, store
still down? So like, does it

1437
01:31:43.760 --> 01:31:46.079
still lock? Up if you do
the Ellie Noir store and stuff, I'm

1438
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:50.840
afraid to do it week, but
they are. Was it this week that

1439
01:31:50.920 --> 01:31:55.800
they were supposed to start publishing stuff
again? Did they have a schedule,

1440
01:31:56.479 --> 01:31:59.359
don't know. Yes, they were
going to roll stuff out like like three

1441
01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:04.640
times a week until they're up to
date up. Okay, I mean there

1442
01:32:04.680 --> 01:32:08.479
must be so much stuff backlog at
this point, that much stuff. It's

1443
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:10.800
only three weeks, four weeks.
Now, what do you try to say?

1444
01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:15.119
You know what I'm doing? PSP
Remasters This was announced over the weekend

1445
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:23.000
from from Sony. These are going
to be uh PSP PlayStation portable games that

1446
01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:27.279
they're gonna basically port up to the
PS three. So Sony was like,

1447
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.880
we made all of these games,
we thought they're kind of cool, but

1448
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:33.960
no one really paid to play for
them, or you know, to play

1449
01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:39.039
them. So the controls and put
them out again. Well, they're doing

1450
01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:41.439
a bunch of new art too,
that's right. Weird thing to me is

1451
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:45.720
that they're paying artists to make new
assets for this stuff. I wonder how

1452
01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:47.039
much of it is actual, like
full on new art. How much of

1453
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:50.840
it is like we up resident and
cleaned up the textures as best we could

1454
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:56.000
capcom put out shots of Munster Hunter
video. Well, if you're gonna do

1455
01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:00.039
a games that way, monster Hunter
is the one you do, and the

1456
01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:01.760
Monster Unders the one you actually pay
real attention to. In Japan, Yeah,

1457
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:05.079
yeah, that's where the starting the
video that came out of Japan and

1458
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:09.840
had straight up side by side video
comparisons of the two, And it's pretty

1459
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:15.560
clear aspectation on the PSP is not
sixteen nine. I think it's something little

1460
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:18.199
goofy. Sure at sixteen it's close. I'm pretty sure at sixteen nine.

1461
01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:25.000
Don't make me pull up Wikipedia again
because I think we can capture it and

1462
01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:27.760
it gets a little goofy. But
I think it's because the games don't spit

1463
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.960
out full screen through the TV out
on a PSP. We have to do

1464
01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:36.479
something weird with them that way.
I don't know. Four ADP doesn't count.

1465
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:40.920
Its Modern Warfare three trailer just debuted, would you or debuted yesterday?

1466
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.319
Would you guys think of that?
Pretty cool? Looks it's great the guns.

1467
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.239
They put a three where there should
be an E. Did they?

1468
01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:51.359
Did they really? Apparently? Oh
that's in the teaser trailers. I mean

1469
01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:57.760
that's I didn't watch they're exactly like
the teaser trailers for Modern Warfare two.

1470
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:00.880
I don't think I watched those either. You you did, because we we

1471
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:05.560
framed by framed that ship. Yeah, think about how much has changed in

1472
01:34:05.640 --> 01:34:11.439
the two years from us framed by
framing the Modern Warfare two trailer to what

1473
01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:15.039
you're not even having watched any of
the four teaser trailers that they have put

1474
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.680
out the Modern Warfare three. Do
we discover by going frame there's rushing at

1475
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:24.000
the end, there's there's all kinds
and there's rushing at the end of these

1476
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.800
ones too, all the like it's
all the night vision, the night vision

1477
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:33.039
wire wire frame looking stuffy. Yeah. Wow, they really just did that

1478
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:39.600
again. It really did that again. But it's four different course, but

1479
01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:44.199
it's it's four different trailers, one
for each retail in which the those videos

1480
01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:46.640
going through the system. Yeah,
with different different names. At that was

1481
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.920
me putting all those up and going
like, SHOs, just bring these together

1482
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:54.119
to one trailer. Even that's too
much work. That would be even more

1483
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:59.560
work, Yeah, in a way. Well else again, right, uh,

1484
01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:04.039
folks, you're talking about reboots of
Karmageddon and the legacy of Cain word

1485
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:12.800
coming out of the idos slash Square
Enix camp. Who I guess there's a

1486
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:17.319
countdown. Karmageddon is not a Square
Enix project? Is it not that that

1487
01:35:17.439 --> 01:35:24.760
they had the license to it?
Because they bought SI they have potentially sold

1488
01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:29.479
the there's an update to that story
that I believe that I believe the word

1489
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.760
is that they may have spun Karmageddon
out to another developer or another publisher.

1490
01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:36.319
Like the right's not necessarily like hey, we'd like to do a Karmageddon,

1491
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:41.960
but more like a hey, we're
never going to make a Karmageddon, so

1492
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:44.840
we'll sell it to these guys and
they will make a Karmageddon. But like

1493
01:35:44.920 --> 01:35:46.279
the domain was registered Square, so
it's it's still kind of up in the

1494
01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:50.319
air just to what that stuff's even
gonna that being as most tell you,

1495
01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:56.720
man, I could not imagine a
company like Square putting out a Karmageddon that

1496
01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.640
is relevant in in this day and
age, because for that game to exist,

1497
01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.239
it needs to be so far gone, so messed up, over the

1498
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:09.199
top crazy, and that's just not
a game that that I think Square is

1499
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.560
gonna make. I was just gonna
say as much, I don't know what

1500
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:14.520
to make of Square in twenty eleven, at all. It's a it's a

1501
01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:19.039
yes, like like the the kind
of the fallback. You know, Japanese

1502
01:36:19.159 --> 01:36:25.159
RPGs that have been their bread and
butter for ever don't seem like they really

1503
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:29.479
resonate in the West anymore. And
the games still sell, but yeah,

1504
01:36:29.479 --> 01:36:32.600
they're not necessarily like bring in new
people. They're there, but then just

1505
01:36:32.720 --> 01:36:36.479
like the new decisions that they're making
about like, Okay, we need to

1506
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:42.039
be Western focused in some regards,
so we're gonna make these odd acquisitions like

1507
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:44.560
it. I think it's just you
know, if if that was still the

1508
01:36:44.640 --> 01:36:46.319
IDOS name and all that stuff,
it wouldn't seem weird. It's just that

1509
01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:51.399
since they bought Idos and now you
know, all that stuff has Square's name

1510
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:54.680
on it, then it's like,
to be fair, there's a lot of

1511
01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:57.960
village too courtesy of Square in X
and you're like, what the Idos would

1512
01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.520
do weird shit all the time too, So yeah, to be fair,

1513
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:04.880
they were like the European Square.
As much as I like Karmageddon, I

1514
01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:09.079
don't know if I hoped if somebody
tries to remake that game. I think

1515
01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:12.039
it was such a product of its
time. Did he developer attached to it

1516
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:18.039
no such a weird The things I
liked about it were I think locked in

1517
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.560
that yeah, you know it was. It was it kind of its time,

1518
01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:25.279
like like very specifically, like you
know, here's a car game where

1519
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:27.640
you're just run over a bunch of
dudes. Well it was like the cars

1520
01:37:27.640 --> 01:37:30.119
would get all mangled up and like
for for a computer game at that time,

1521
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:32.399
that kind of looked cool, but
like now people could do that real

1522
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:36.720
well anyway, games I'll never played
that game was that It must have been

1523
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:41.439
like mid nineties, early to mid
nineties, so like sort of doom levels,

1524
01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:45.279
but there were three of them.
Two was like ninety seven or something,

1525
01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:50.159
ninety six ninety seven because I looked
I had I had a dedicated three

1526
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:55.199
D video card in my computer at
that point. Who colored lighting? Yeah

1527
01:37:55.319 --> 01:37:59.000
so yeah, so all the sweet
particle effects that I had in Karmageddon too.

1528
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.239
And it was a dopey game but
you're still racing, but you were.

1529
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.520
It was a weird game. It
was weird game. It's no Quarantine.

1530
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:12.920
Just keep saying that over and over
again time anyone's listening. Someone made

1531
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:16.119
new Quarantine. Then we have something
That's what I'll say. It's a legacy

1532
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:20.760
of Kane though, that's a that's
Silicon Knights originally. Yeah, it used

1533
01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:24.279
to be, and then they sold
it the first one, the only the

1534
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:28.520
first one actual. Yeah, and
then Crystal Dynamics did all the soul Reaver

1535
01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:31.680
games, right because then it was
like it turned into like an actor person

1536
01:38:31.720 --> 01:38:33.960
action game. Yeah, there was
a Legacy of Kane, which was where

1537
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:39.039
you were playing Kane. It was
top down, yeah, looking PlayStation game

1538
01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:42.760
as Kane. I assume that.
I assumed they just gave up the IP

1539
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:45.760
in the publishing deal for that.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't

1540
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:50.000
think they have any I mean has
made future games in that series. And

1541
01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:57.520
yeah, everything else was made a
bunch of those Soul Reaver which is like

1542
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:00.840
the spitoff you're playing is razz yell, like Kane was the bad guy,

1543
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:02.520
and then they pulled it together and
then they just do like Legacy of Kane

1544
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:09.920
two or something like Kane Defiant was
the like weird team up where Kane and

1545
01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:14.239
Rosil are in it together, but
it's not as good as those other sul

1546
01:39:14.279 --> 01:39:17.600
Reaverer games where people are freaking love
didn't. Amy Hinnigg of of Uncharted Fame

1547
01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:20.600
worked on a bunch of the soul
reaver stuff or some of it. I'm

1548
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:25.840
not sure, some portion of it
absolutely, yeah, yeah, like people

1549
01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:28.199
like those. I never played any
of that stuff, but STL. River

1550
01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:30.600
seemed to be like pretty well,
yeah, definitely. Those were some some

1551
01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:34.000
neat games in their day. And
then a Coujie the Heartless came out and

1552
01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:39.920
he were like, what good on
Richard Rowntree? Yeah, playing a Cougie

1553
01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:43.840
the Heartless? That's right, Hey, Joe, this is Richard Rowntree voice

1554
01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:46.199
of a Cougie the Heartless. What
if he still has that? We gotta

1555
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:48.960
I hope, so get ahold of
get ahold of Joe Field or we're gonna

1556
01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:55.399
find out left a voicemail was left
for him by Richard Rowntree, Yeah,

1557
01:39:55.800 --> 01:40:03.520
to promote, to promote the Heartless
Richard Rowntree of shaft yea for those not

1558
01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:08.479
not wondering, Oh that Richard rash
Tree. Those those folks googling it at

1559
01:40:08.520 --> 01:40:12.279
home. That producer Richard Rowntree.
He may be a producer. He could

1560
01:40:12.279 --> 01:40:19.239
be. He's clearly a multi hyphenic
triple threat. That's right, all three

1561
01:40:19.239 --> 01:40:26.239
of his fists. Warner Brothers did
a good thing and stripped away any sort

1562
01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:30.039
of the combat pass requirements of Mortal
Kombat until Sony gets its shipped together.

1563
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:33.039
There's a couple of T and T
is too late. Yeah. No,

1564
01:40:33.239 --> 01:40:36.119
well we were still able to get
through it because we were three day pass

1565
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:40.560
within that. Yeah, we were
within the trial pass thing. But I

1566
01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:45.279
think there's probably still room for a
PS three specific Mortal Kombat TNT. I

1567
01:40:45.359 --> 01:40:47.159
think you will think you will have
to fight Vinnie for that. Oh no,

1568
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:50.239
I think there's room for it.
I might have mentioned hopefully we'll be

1569
01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:54.279
around in business for a long time, so there's probably room for it.

1570
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:58.079
Might have mentioned to those Sony guys, we should come back now that works

1571
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:00.680
back up and play some MK for
TNT. Wait, we can. We

1572
01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:04.520
can celebrate the true return of the
PlayStation Network once the story is back up.

1573
01:41:04.760 --> 01:41:09.680
Yeah, proving no good deed goes
unpunished. I saw people giving a

1574
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:14.159
Boon shit on Twitter. He was
reposted that just like like like owners of

1575
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:16.840
the Xbox game, We're we're giving
him shit about the fact. It was

1576
01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:20.279
like one guy and I can't two
guys and I can't imagine. Oh,

1577
01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:25.479
because they feel they feel that they
should have that they should get that that

1578
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:29.479
perk as well, but like,
who's buying that game used by probably already

1579
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:30.399
bought the new copy, Like,
what do you have to worry about?

1580
01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:34.920
I don't know, Yeah, I
don't know. It's ridiculous. People,

1581
01:41:35.079 --> 01:41:38.479
people are crazy. I have to
imagine that guy was sucking around because I

1582
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:41.760
can't. I'm out. I can't
imagine a world in which someone did not

1583
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:45.439
seem to think so I guess not. But well, maybe news will be

1584
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:48.279
coming soon. They've been they've been
patching that game without patching it. They

1585
01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:51.199
can, they can hot fix it
and change balance on the fly. Yeah,

1586
01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:55.079
I wish I wish there was some
kind of notification of that. There's

1587
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:58.359
a way to check the version number
in the game, but basically you can

1588
01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:01.720
just go to their official site and
like they've been posting in the boards whenever

1589
01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:03.760
they change stuff. So it's just
like, all right, Shank Songs,

1590
01:42:04.399 --> 01:42:09.439
Life Recovery doesn't do as much and
Kno's Upward Ball does this now, Big

1591
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:13.000
Kung Loud nerve coming. I don't
know if all yeah, I think it's

1592
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.880
in the list. They like posted
their most recent patch notes, well,

1593
01:42:15.880 --> 01:42:17.239
the passiones. They threw out pass
notes. They threw out a patch like

1594
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:20.439
on the twentieth or nineteenth or something
already. So I know they have more

1595
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:24.840
in the works, but and they
actually have a proper patch patch that I

1596
01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:28.039
guess we'll fix fix the matchmaking stuff
and some of the other issues they've been

1597
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.880
having. But so maybe there's some
stuff they can't hot fix with regardless of

1598
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:34.640
character baut I couldn't. I couldn't
get a ranked match going to save my

1599
01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:38.039
life this weekend. Yeah, yeah, that stuff just doesn't work even on

1600
01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:43.560
PSH three. Just no go.
Yeah. I guess that tournament came down

1601
01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:46.239
to a fair amount of Kung Loud
versus or something. I'm not sure.

1602
01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:53.199
Yeah, he's definitely a favorite right
now there there. Ed Boone has come

1603
01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:57.640
out and said that, yo,
these costumes are coming soon, but no

1604
01:42:57.840 --> 01:43:02.640
levels. Yeah yeah yeah, so
costumes like the pre order stuff, Yeah,

1605
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:06.800
they've said that those are coming eventually
somehow. So here's money. He

1606
01:43:06.880 --> 01:43:10.720
was. His thing was like,
to the people who are going on eBay

1607
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:15.840
and paying crazy money for these costumes, stop it. You're not gonna need

1608
01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:18.840
to do that for much longer.
And a similar thing should be extended to

1609
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:25.039
folks who are paying crazy money for
the La Noir preorder cases on eBay,

1610
01:43:25.079 --> 01:43:30.359
because the game itself even says,
hey, those those pre order dl C

1611
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.920
cases are coming soon. Check back
to the Social Club soon. Yeah,

1612
01:43:34.600 --> 01:43:39.159
so don't pay like thirty bucks for
a case. That's crazy. You're crazy

1613
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:44.079
person. So here's my MK theory. They're putting out that Arcade collection collection.

1614
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:46.560
I bet if you buy that you
get all those costumes. That would

1615
01:43:46.560 --> 01:43:49.319
makes sense. That would be pretty
cool. That would be one way to

1616
01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:51.399
do it. I think it's either
going to be that or they'll just patch

1617
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:55.239
man and go here you go.
That's one of those two things. You

1618
01:43:55.239 --> 01:43:58.640
don't think they're gonna three fighter it
like two or three dollars a half.

1619
01:43:58.720 --> 01:44:01.800
I think they may eventually get to
that point, but not with these pre

1620
01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:09.159
order costumes. If I had to
guess, yeah, I would love to

1621
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:15.640
see you know, just like contract
verbiage concerning like you know, after set

1622
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.319
amount of time, like what cames
do you do with that stuff? Like

1623
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:24.000
if if they if it's specific,
like no, you can't sell this directly,

1624
01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:27.680
so okay, so we can do
stuff where if we want to pack

1625
01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:29.920
it in or just give it away, we can do that. That's you

1626
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:32.640
know, our prerogative. But you're
gonna give it away. I didn't even

1627
01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:36.800
think got to write that into a
contract. Boon, damn it, boon

1628
01:44:38.039 --> 01:44:42.840
a boon. Oh what else is
going on? Valve ain't going to E

1629
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:45.600
three, which I don't go to
three of course not. Of course,

1630
01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.560
historically they've been there all the time. They practically every year. You don't

1631
01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:56.439
remember when let's face took the stage. I mean that they never have a

1632
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.359
booth, but they have almost always
had a little meeting room where they're showing

1633
01:44:59.439 --> 01:45:04.520
live two. I sat in one. I never took Valve appointments in the

1634
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.399
three, so I have been to
a bunch of them. You're still working

1635
01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:11.000
on episode two? Yeah? Or
episode three? Yes, no, we're

1636
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:14.640
still working episode two, episode two
so yeah, I know it's the best

1637
01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:18.239
terse Valve pr emails, that's all
of them. Yeah, but this was

1638
01:45:18.359 --> 01:45:26.319
this was like, hey, guys, there's been some speculation not going don't

1639
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:28.640
worry about it. Stop asking.
Bungee kind of said the same, the

1640
01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:32.159
same thing, yes, but they
were Yeah, it was it was broader

1641
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:34.920
and we're like, hey, we're
busy working on our hot This was like,

1642
01:45:35.159 --> 01:45:39.600
no, we're not good, yeah, stop it. You're realized we

1643
01:45:39.640 --> 01:45:42.520
don't need the three right now?
I really want to pull it up because

1644
01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.560
you realize that people can just launch
Steam and it's like, as far as

1645
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:46.720
we're concerned, it's E three every
day if we want to put out new

1646
01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:50.199
information right just on the front page
of Steam. Hey, guys, do

1647
01:45:50.359 --> 01:45:54.239
to two's coming. We have a
better E three, say guys. Still,

1648
01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:59.359
we've been working on a new action
half Life this whole time for half

1649
01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:04.319
Life one. That sounds good.
Hey, Drew special going on? You

1650
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:10.560
got a message? What's the message? Say? You gotta do the the

1651
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:14.359
Ellen noir that he's hovering his finger
over it. Just let that one.

1652
01:46:14.520 --> 01:46:17.199
It's the only one there, all
right, buttons to further interact with objects.

1653
01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:21.119
He's okay, he has delivered very
deliberately unfolded it and he's now looking

1654
01:46:21.159 --> 01:46:26.199
way too close at it. Hey, I gets spin it, you get

1655
01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:30.159
turn it a little bit? Rotated? Rotated, You gotta rotate at the

1656
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:36.760
corners. Oh he does hold it
like this. Yeah, you didn't rotate

1657
01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:40.199
it. You didn't check to see
if there's anything on the back. Short

1658
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:43.880
comments you also you have to make
you have to make some sort of comments.

1659
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:49.039
Yeah, well this changes things.
I have I have the actual valve

1660
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.640
email right here, all right,
what is what does the valve pr email

1661
01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:57.000
say concerning valvety three? I quote, Hi, lots of folks have mailed

1662
01:46:57.039 --> 01:47:01.840
asking about appointment times, et cetera
with valve stop line break. Well,

1663
01:47:02.079 --> 01:47:05.880
we're not showing any titles at this
year's show, so no appointment is needed.

1664
01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:13.319
Thanks, it's the holy bite.
No he doesn't even say E three

1665
01:47:13.399 --> 01:47:15.920
in that email anywhere? Oh god, I just closed it. Or does

1666
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:23.079
it just say show? The subject
line is E three couple and making any

1667
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:28.680
possible, So you could just okay, cool, but you can't because you

1668
01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:32.800
have to see that. I love
it. Oh yeah, there's all this

1669
01:47:32.920 --> 01:47:40.840
business about firmware frying systems because of
ellen ware. Guy's got debunked. Yeah.

1670
01:47:40.920 --> 01:47:42.800
I kind of said, like,
no, if we thought maybe it

1671
01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:45.000
was that, but no, it
sounded like it was just weird, like

1672
01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:50.720
support que speculation. Have you guys
gotten the new three sixty update yet?

1673
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:56.119
Yes, you hold it. I
think over the weekend they're rolling it out

1674
01:47:56.119 --> 01:47:59.520
in waves. Oh is it it's
not for everybody? Is that for the

1675
01:47:59.560 --> 01:48:02.399
new disc format? Yeah? I
guess it does that as well as ads,

1676
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:08.119
PayPal support for buying stuff. Well, that's kind I think it's mostly

1677
01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:10.800
for the disc format. But they're
putting that in there because it was ready

1678
01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:12.960
or something. But yeah, i'll
take that. I think I pulled it

1679
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.279
out on a last Friday. Actually
yeah, it's they came out last week

1680
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:17.600
at some point, but they're they're
rolling rolling it out over like the next

1681
01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:20.920
couple of weeks or something. So, speaking of I have not turned on

1682
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.199
my Xbox, I don't know if
I have it or not. Speaking of

1683
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:27.800
Xbox stuff, there's a thing going
around now where like a very small number

1684
01:48:27.800 --> 01:48:31.880
of consoles are incompatible with apparently not
this update, but actually a previous update,

1685
01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:34.720
right, and they're like straight up
giving out brand new consoles to people

1686
01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:43.279
that hardware thing. But they didn't
they didn't clarify what the factor low.

1687
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:46.000
You can test it by putting the
game in. The effect is that it

1688
01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:50.720
can't read discs anymore. Uh,
And if like any yeah, like any

1689
01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:55.880
retail Xbox have you? Have you
played an Xbox game in the last week

1690
01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:00.560
or two? No logs a bit, I mean in a while. The

1691
01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.159
last thing I played was was Clash
of Heroes, and uh, that was

1692
01:49:03.239 --> 01:49:05.600
just downloadable. Give it a shot. I don't know. Yeah, I

1693
01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:09.119
don't think they even said if it's
older new consoles, or it could be

1694
01:49:09.159 --> 01:49:12.680
anything. It almost sounded like it
was the model of DVD drive that's in

1695
01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:15.600
the console is causing this, yeah
or something. But yeah, like,

1696
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.680
no matter what kind of Xbox you
have, if this happens, they will

1697
01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:24.920
send you a brand new that's two
hundred fifty guess to replace it. So

1698
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:30.159
if like a million people going,
oh God, I hope Xbox is broken,

1699
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:32.600
just give me a new Xbox.
Yeah, I should try it.

1700
01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:36.720
So I've got that oldie, oldie
one that I mean, I've got the

1701
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:40.760
s but I got that old one
that I keep it in the living room.

1702
01:49:41.520 --> 01:49:48.079
I think hasn't played a game.
And an Australian newspaper has revealed that

1703
01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:54.279
the penguin is going to be in
Arkhamas City. Who did who said that?

1704
01:49:55.119 --> 01:50:03.359
The son Harold yield this hot piece
of video game information unemotionally this game

1705
01:50:03.399 --> 01:50:08.720
will be banned in that territory.
So hey, we've got a picture of

1706
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:12.439
what looks like the penguin and what
looks like a big tough dude with penguins

1707
01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:15.560
tattooed on his pecks. It still
looks tough though it's a Will Smith.

1708
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:24.920
Mmm. No, neither neither mhm. But he's got a great big sword

1709
01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:31.319
kind a belt sword belt. I
hope that image has been painted for you.

1710
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:40.920
Yeah, he's also bald, all
right. Batman Arkham City is a

1711
01:50:40.960 --> 01:50:44.479
video game. Batman Arham City's video
games coming out. Also, they said

1712
01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:49.319
Catwoman will be in it, So
Penguin Pet cat Woman gonna be in well,

1713
01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:54.560
I mean Catwoman was in the demo
they showed months ago. We've also

1714
01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:58.880
two Face I can't remember who else
was, yeah, showing off in there.

1715
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.680
No though that's new, if it's
even true. I mean, they

1716
01:51:02.800 --> 01:51:05.960
ran through so much pantheo at the
last time. I'm like they kind of

1717
01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:10.720
had. I don't know. I
don't know that individual character reveals are particularly

1718
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:14.119
meaningful for Arkham City because I just
expect, yeah, a lot of them,

1719
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:16.079
right, There's only so many to
go around, and and they did

1720
01:51:16.159 --> 01:51:19.039
so many the first time that I
have to imagine they will hit some of

1721
01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:23.119
those a second time, or at
least, you know, change the role

1722
01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:26.640
that they have. No Joker,
skip the Joker out. I think I

1723
01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:30.880
think we'll see the Joker again.
What I bet you guys want to lay

1724
01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:34.680
down some money on that. I
bet that the Riddler will be will have

1725
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:40.039
some sort of impact on it.
I bet that mister Freeze will be in

1726
01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:42.880
it. You know, I would
put money on that. Yeah, I

1727
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:45.000
don't know about that one. You
don't think mister Freeze will be in it?

1728
01:51:45.079 --> 01:51:47.880
I didn't say he won't. Yeah, that's quite absolutely believe mister Freese

1729
01:51:47.880 --> 01:51:50.720
will be in it because they tease
him in the first one. Well,

1730
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:54.800
what kind of context you mean,
like do you want him to appear like

1731
01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:58.039
in that there's a boss? Do
you see a model of him or just

1732
01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.880
like Freeze was here somethings from No
No, I you actually see him?

1733
01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:03.119
I think. Isn't he kind of
like a mega villain though, like there's

1734
01:52:03.159 --> 01:52:09.720
only there's like tears of Batman villain
right is very clearly like he's up there

1735
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:15.880
with like he's up there with a
poison ivy Freeze. Yeah, okay,

1736
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:20.720
m like Freeze is sort of like
primary antagonist, kind of like I work

1737
01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:24.239
alone kind of thing. Well,
more like he is at the top of

1738
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:28.159
the food chain of Batman villains.
Sure, I mean I put him up

1739
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.760
there with the penguin like he is. I see. I just think it's

1740
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:34.800
like Joker than Penguin than everybody else, like who cares to me? To

1741
01:52:34.840 --> 01:52:38.159
mean, that's that's no. I
think we're always this kind of starting.

1742
01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:42.600
Joker so far above everyone else.
Clear, but I think, you know,

1743
01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:45.119
Catwoman, her role is just so
weird anymore, she can't count her

1744
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:48.680
as hero or villain. But I
mean with expanded role for Riddler, obviously

1745
01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:53.680
the Joker is still the main threat. Yeah, is still in fact threat

1746
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:58.840
to I mean two faces who is
big and the first one at all?

1747
01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:02.119
Uh? I think again they have
like Harvey Dence like a cell or something

1748
01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:04.039
like that. That's right, So
I mean that's the thing. I mean

1749
01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:08.439
they did a referenced stuff. I
mean everybody was like touch there still around.

1750
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:14.479
Riddler is bigger this time, like
two faces there just yeah, just

1751
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.319
kind of seems like a big one
to cram into that already pretty heavy line

1752
01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:20.399
up. I think Freeze is tough
because there are new mechanics you have to

1753
01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:23.760
add for Freeze because of all the
ice stuff. I don't think they were

1754
01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:27.560
both. He put them in a
specific room where there's the boss fight will

1755
01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:30.640
have slippery floor. Then like dude
shooting in with ice, didn't you fight

1756
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:32.880
him in the first game? You
know? Definitely all you saw was like

1757
01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:36.640
you saw the outside of his cell
and it was all frozened up, like

1758
01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:39.920
I don't even know that it said
mister Freeze outside of it. It was

1759
01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:42.680
just a damn it. That game
is awesome. Who is it? There's

1760
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:47.880
someone you fight then in like like
I think you fight and there's there's there

1761
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.960
an electric guy. There's a dude
with electricity. I can now. There

1762
01:53:50.960 --> 01:53:56.000
were just those floors in that one
cell area where Harley Harley Quinn is in

1763
01:53:56.079 --> 01:54:00.720
a cell, and there's there's four
corners to the area that you're in,

1764
01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:03.119
and there's almost like a little coffin
like setups or whatever that keep like opening

1765
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:09.800
closing as a guy keep moving between
something. But remember mister Freeze Freeze definitely

1766
01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:15.279
not in the first time. Yeah, I remember them very deliberately teasing that

1767
01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:18.319
he was in this version of the
the universe, but or that he had

1768
01:54:18.359 --> 01:54:24.039
been kept in Arkham at some point. Anyway, is this an unprecedented Penguin

1769
01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:32.239
design like this like buff that's not
the pa Wait no, that like Penguin

1770
01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:35.079
Okay, yeah, Burgess Meredith.
Yeah, he's he's got the monocle,

1771
01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:38.199
he's got the sneer, he's got
a little bit of a point of nose.

1772
01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:42.600
Yeah, okay, yeah, not
not unprecedent yet not not the d

1773
01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.279
I thought you were saying. I
thought you're saying the big buff But like

1774
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:49.760
that he was like a physical freak. He wasn't just a squat dude.

1775
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:57.319
Yea, like the deformities was was
that like contrived for the movie? That

1776
01:54:57.439 --> 01:55:00.159
just and they made him more of
a horrible freak. Then he's not part

1777
01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:08.239
of the like Batman necessary because like
old Batman TV series, they darkened him

1778
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:14.000
up severely for the Batman was just
kind of like an aristocratic, like mobster

1779
01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:17.600
kind of guy. Yeah, all
right, kind of everyone like sort of

1780
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:23.760
all Batman villains were like, they're
kind of games that have slight eccentricities and

1781
01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:28.520
then they make them super fucking dark
and way crazy. This guy looks egypt

1782
01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:38.560
supernatural Egyptologists coming in. Yeah,
absolutely start bringing supernatural and weird high science

1783
01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:45.760
fiction nonsense. Cut man. I
want to see Batman fighting MegaMan villains?

1784
01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.640
Was the game wins Just as long
as you fight air Man first, everything's

1785
01:55:49.680 --> 01:55:53.000
cool. Then it finally provides the
answer to that question, where does he

1786
01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:58.720
get all those mornful toys? A
right on moving on from news from from

1787
01:55:58.840 --> 01:56:01.479
that No guts guts man, he
can throw stuff you race this week Dirt

1788
01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:08.000
three coming out for PS three and
three sixty. Quick look at that?

1789
01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:11.560
Quick look at that in the can? Up up now, probably up now.

1790
01:56:12.319 --> 01:56:14.760
It's it's the game's out now,
so might as well. Sure?

1791
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:18.640
What the hell? That? It
was good? I want to see more

1792
01:56:18.680 --> 01:56:20.720
of it. What do you think
of it than any I think it looking

1793
01:56:20.720 --> 01:56:23.880
at it. I think it looked
really good we saw. I really want

1794
01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:26.720
to see it on a PC.
I don't think I really spend it much

1795
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.159
time with it on the PC apps
and budget on three sixty and it looks

1796
01:56:29.199 --> 01:56:32.039
gorgeous on there. So it's one
of those like, Hey, I kind

1797
01:56:32.079 --> 01:56:34.680
of just want to try playing with
a racing wheel, but I don't want

1798
01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:38.600
to buy one. I need to
borrow it from somebody because I just want

1799
01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:41.720
to see what that's like. Dave
bring his in Live show or something.

1800
01:56:42.039 --> 01:56:44.840
Don't buy a racing wheel. Yeah, I really want to buy a racing

1801
01:56:45.119 --> 01:56:50.840
No, no, don't buy a
racing racing don't buy a racing wheel.

1802
01:56:50.880 --> 01:56:54.520
Hang on by a racing cheers.
Don't buy a racing cheer. Okay,

1803
01:56:54.600 --> 01:56:58.079
yeah, yeah, buy the big
metal frame. Don't buy a racing get

1804
01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:01.840
it's fourteen and something like that.
I would buy a d box seat before

1805
01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:05.560
i'd buy a racing wheel. I
like it as somebody who doesn't drive like

1806
01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:09.319
I just like want to play around
with the gearshift and all that stuff.

1807
01:57:09.439 --> 01:57:12.000
And I could probably just buy a
car for cheaper at that point. Yeah,

1808
01:57:12.279 --> 01:57:15.800
yeah, burn it out in a
parking lot. Don't buy a racing

1809
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:19.840
wheel. When I finally buy a
new cars just coming into I'll just let

1810
01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:25.520
you borrow my old one that was
real give I'll give you a couple of

1811
01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:28.439
thousand here. This is real fun. I'm with him. Don't buy a

1812
01:57:28.520 --> 01:57:30.800
racing I think buy a racing I
think that I was real close to buying

1813
01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:35.479
a racing wheel. But don't buy
a racing don't buy a racing wheeling racing

1814
01:57:35.560 --> 01:57:40.760
wheel? Thing is they they're not
How often do you even play racing games

1815
01:57:41.600 --> 01:57:45.640
and not enough to wheel? Well? They maybe they're more fun with it

1816
01:57:45.800 --> 01:57:50.079
racing. Here's the other thing.
Hey also racing games. That the whole

1817
01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:54.920
not notion that racing games are somehow
more fun or more realistic with a steering

1818
01:57:54.960 --> 01:57:59.039
wheel is a complete fallast. It's
a complete fallast. Because it's not like

1819
01:57:59.119 --> 01:58:01.840
it's none of them behave like the
steering wheels in actual cars. Yeah,

1820
01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:05.479
well at all, it's just another
contrivance. It's like it's it's you're trading

1821
01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:14.079
one for one. Doesn't all slightly
more realistic. But we say that can't

1822
01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:17.520
learn the switch gears to our k
will play hard driving and take you how

1823
01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:20.800
to drive a car. I think, well, here's the problem. They

1824
01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:24.279
don't make them. You can't buy
one for like the PS three to three

1825
01:58:24.399 --> 01:58:27.720
sixty and the PC can only buy
a p S three and PC or for

1826
01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:32.239
the three sixty ones? Did no? They they're still just like I heard

1827
01:58:32.279 --> 01:58:35.560
that too, and I looked them
up and unless somebody has one, hey,

1828
01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:39.840
i'll talk to date anyway. I
don't own a racing wheel. Don't

1829
01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:45.520
buy then? Yeah five dirt three
mayboy? See the things are like the

1830
01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:49.000
three six the connect racing wheel.
Did you see the ads for that go

1831
01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:53.880
up? No? Like there a
physical wheel that you hold the pictures like

1832
01:58:53.960 --> 01:58:57.760
an invisible wheels. It was like
for like fourteen ninety nine. Maybe somebody

1833
01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:00.199
mocked it up, but it was
like I didn't click through the link of

1834
01:59:00.239 --> 01:59:04.039
the Amazon page, but it looked
awesome. Wow, they can distribute that

1835
01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:10.560
digital. That was actually just a
link to the Rebecca Black Friday song anyway,

1836
01:59:10.560 --> 01:59:14.279
because that we're calling it now Black
Friday song. Yeah, that's many

1837
01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:17.439
Black Friday songs in a racing We're
even how do we even talk about that?

1838
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:24.840
We're talking about new releases three the
Racing don't buy a Racy Wheel.

1839
01:59:25.319 --> 01:59:30.800
Dagger Dale is out this across the
three six NPS three. If it's gets

1840
01:59:30.840 --> 01:59:33.359
out, I don't know. Story
is still not up. I don't even

1841
01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:36.760
I don't thin Daggerdale's coming for PS
three, even if the store is back

1842
01:59:40.920 --> 01:59:45.000
stuff. I think they've kind of
said even stuff like this is gonna go

1843
01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:47.000
out at some point. I can't
look really interesting. I kind of want

1844
01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:50.000
to. I was gonna get a
knife controller, a dagger controller for that

1845
01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:54.880
game. That would be a reasonable
purchase. Well, how many games does

1846
01:59:54.920 --> 01:59:58.000
he play where he stabs dudes?
A lot? But is it realistic?

1847
01:59:58.039 --> 02:00:01.840
Would you really know how to stab
a deal by using dagger but it vibrates?

1848
02:00:01.880 --> 02:00:05.720
But buy a dagger wheel? Yeah? Would you learn how to really

1849
02:00:05.800 --> 02:00:11.680
use a dagger wheel with a dagger
wheel controller. It's not a matter of

1850
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:16.399
trying to learn. I have to
use a dagger. Uh yeah, it's

1851
02:00:16.880 --> 02:00:20.279
not a lot of new stuff coming
out right now, but hey Dirt three

1852
02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:25.399
or next week or week after that. Oh yeah, week of three Miles

1853
02:00:25.520 --> 02:00:30.199
that come out last week. Buy
some games that Smiles two x that might

1854
02:00:30.239 --> 02:00:32.600
be coming out. I bought it
today, so it is out, so

1855
02:00:32.760 --> 02:00:35.520
something has to happen. I didn't
think that that was a real game,

1856
02:00:35.520 --> 02:00:38.840
so I didn't list it. Yeah, no, that's that came out on

1857
02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:43.439
the Games on Demand. It's it's
crazy. They're selling the Japanese version of

1858
02:00:43.520 --> 02:00:47.000
that game for thirty dollars on Games
on Demand, totally untranslated, sort of

1859
02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:53.840
like Sony has done with like the
achievements of Japanese, like everything it is.

1860
02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:58.159
It is not an English game,
but they it's a cool idea because,

1861
02:00:58.159 --> 02:00:59.760
like, you know, if you
were to buy that game and import

1862
02:00:59.840 --> 02:01:01.479
it and have a Japanese three sixty
and all that crap, like you'd be

1863
02:01:01.600 --> 02:01:03.479
spending kind of a lot of money. But now you can just get it

1864
02:01:03.560 --> 02:01:06.239
for only thirty dollars. Of course, you could start to make the argument

1865
02:01:06.279 --> 02:01:10.600
that it's not worth thirty dollars because
it has about as much content as a

1866
02:01:10.720 --> 02:01:14.039
ten dollars as like trouble, which
is Neo or something like that. It's

1867
02:01:14.079 --> 02:01:18.880
a downloadable Japanese side scrolling shooter.
Does this version of Death Smiles have yet

1868
02:01:18.920 --> 02:01:24.399
another set of achievements separate from the
Japanese achievements. No, no, these

1869
02:01:24.680 --> 02:01:27.479
are just the Japanese achievements. Okay, So so now I can I can

1870
02:01:27.560 --> 02:01:30.439
finally live the dream of having Japanese
achievements. Yes, on a non Japanese

1871
02:01:30.600 --> 02:01:35.439
xbox. And the only way you
can tell what the difference between the girls

1872
02:01:35.479 --> 02:01:39.720
that you're playing as is that it
list their names and their ages. The

1873
02:01:39.760 --> 02:01:43.239
oldest one is seventeen. You can
tell because the rubs are the biggest.

1874
02:01:45.359 --> 02:01:46.960
Actually, the fourteen year olds are
maybe a little bit bigger. It's a

1875
02:01:47.039 --> 02:01:49.880
great fucking game. Maybe we'll do
a quick look at that, because it's

1876
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:53.600
so high quality, we should do
a quick look at that. Yeah,

1877
02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:57.000
we wisul do a quickly of that. Yeah, it's it's it's kind of

1878
02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:01.439
that's a real picture. Put that
down. It's like it's not invisible.

1879
02:02:01.479 --> 02:02:04.199
It's just it's translucent. I think
I think, I don't know. I

1880
02:02:04.279 --> 02:02:11.119
think that's to show you that it's
invisible. No, it's it's a shitty

1881
02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:15.239
thing. I don't. I don't
know. I don't even he's designed something

1882
02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:18.600
designed to try and keep your hands
in the coal. You're stupid to keep

1883
02:02:18.640 --> 02:02:23.319
your hands at virtual ten and two. Now you've got a plastic thing.

1884
02:02:23.399 --> 02:02:28.960
You could buy this either. You
guys are just fucking wet towels the wettest.

1885
02:02:30.720 --> 02:02:34.720
All right, let's let's take it
to emails bobcast at Giant Bob dot

1886
02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:41.399
com, Scott, that's the Maryland
rights in the safe fellas. After playing

1887
02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:45.479
Break for a few weeks, I
also don't like Break, But I would

1888
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:48.239
love to hear you guys voice down. Man, this guy's in Bethesda.

1889
02:02:48.439 --> 02:02:50.680
You can't say that sort of stuck. It's the way you wrote the emails.

1890
02:02:50.960 --> 02:02:54.439
You wrote it around him is like
it's a great game. It's the

1891
02:02:54.520 --> 02:02:57.760
greatest game I've ever played. Well, yeah, I wonder how much of

1892
02:02:57.760 --> 02:03:03.119
the Bethesda economy relies on be as
the soft works. But I would love

1893
02:03:03.119 --> 02:03:06.439
to hear you guys speculate as to
what would have made it a more enjoyable

1894
02:03:06.560 --> 02:03:11.279
experience experience. I found the fundamental
flaws. Most of the time you are

1895
02:03:11.319 --> 02:03:14.720
not shooting people, just bots,
which we all know is it is more

1896
02:03:14.800 --> 02:03:17.640
fun to shoot people. Yeah,
well, I mean, the big problem

1897
02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:23.079
with the console versions of that game
is that it is exceedingly difficult to get

1898
02:03:23.159 --> 02:03:26.079
into a game with all humans.
You actually had to play a little bit

1899
02:03:26.119 --> 02:03:30.560
of the PC version post review,
and it's a better version of the game

1900
02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:32.000
because it has a server browser and
you can just go fund show me the

1901
02:03:32.079 --> 02:03:35.600
game with the people in it,
not the robots. Yeah, but then

1902
02:03:35.600 --> 02:03:39.359
at that point, you know,
that doesn't suddenly make it an amazing,

1903
02:03:39.399 --> 02:03:42.279
awesome game, Like it still kind
of has a lot of the same problems.

1904
02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:44.560
It's just you know, at least
you're not dealing with shitty AI.

1905
02:03:47.600 --> 02:03:54.119
I have not played Breaks since before
it came out, and kind of I

1906
02:03:54.159 --> 02:03:58.079
guess the feeling that I had was
that there were some neat ideas that just

1907
02:03:58.640 --> 02:04:01.119
it's it's a new enemy terror story
game. Like if if that appeals to

1908
02:04:01.199 --> 02:04:04.279
you, if just saying that is
enough for you to go, oh man,

1909
02:04:04.520 --> 02:04:09.359
then yeah, you should probably get
a brink. But it seemed like

1910
02:04:09.399 --> 02:04:13.600
it had some inventive ideas that it
got beat to by about a year.

1911
02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:18.560
Maybe that's that it's that it in
such a way that like you could not

1912
02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:23.520
still excuse the other weird rough edges
that that game had and as a lot

1913
02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:29.239
of them, that's my games pretty
messed up. This next email comes in

1914
02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:33.600
from random three D artists. Uh, finally, last week I solicited some

1915
02:04:33.800 --> 02:04:42.359
anonymous emails from game developers. Really
yeah, they wanted to let out some

1916
02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:46.680
stuffy Feel free to go and build
an Gmail account and send us crazy emails

1917
02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:49.600
if you still care too. Did
we have a specific question that we were

1918
02:04:49.600 --> 02:04:53.960
putting to them or was it just
wanted to tell us some scoop. I

1919
02:04:54.000 --> 02:04:57.359
just wanted crazy stories. I wanted
crazy development stories. We were talking,

1920
02:04:57.479 --> 02:05:00.279
we we got something in I can't
the context, but I think they the

1921
02:05:00.279 --> 02:05:08.760
request was just what are you're crazy? Shit? So who doesn't? So

1922
02:05:08.920 --> 02:05:14.239
this is this is concerning because we're
talking just about asset generation last yeast week.

1923
02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:17.600
To answer your question on development costs, if an artist creates props,

1924
02:05:17.640 --> 02:05:20.600
as long as they are what the
studio needs, it's cheaper to fix than

1925
02:05:20.640 --> 02:05:25.840
to make them from scratch. You
want to build up an archive of chairs,

1926
02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:29.720
boxes and cakes quickly than edit it
later. When it comes to the

1927
02:05:29.920 --> 02:05:33.039
more complex work such as program code, you can fix as few You want

1928
02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:36.600
to fix a few errors as possible, so hire less people that make that

1929
02:05:36.680 --> 02:05:42.439
are more capable. As computer software, hardware and hardware becomes more powerful,

1930
02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:45.600
it's a mistake to only rely on
outsourcing to do the job of one well

1931
02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:48.680
equipped, experienced artist. A good
example of speech Tree. You can hire

1932
02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:53.199
thirty artists to make trees, or
hire one and buy speed Tree. It's

1933
02:05:53.199 --> 02:05:58.840
a battle of using resources properly with
limited time. So it's a big push

1934
02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:02.640
for Speechree in there. Huh that
from random three D artist at SpeedTree dot

1935
02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:08.279
com. This wasn't the guy in
Bethesta, Maryland, wasn't No, this

1936
02:06:08.520 --> 02:06:15.560
was Hey, this is an anonymous
random person so they think we talked specifically

1937
02:06:15.760 --> 02:06:18.439
about that last time. So that's
interesting about the fixing and generating, right,

1938
02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:24.880
right, So it's kind of interesting
too. What's it like the argument

1939
02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:27.760
here? It sounds like it's kind
of like, well, both for when

1940
02:06:27.800 --> 02:06:31.640
it's appropriate, like you know,
procedurally generate stuff or you know, outsourced

1941
02:06:31.680 --> 02:06:34.680
stuff. Yeah, I mean there
are plenty of games that outsourced tons and

1942
02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:39.920
tons of assets. But you know, you want your your main characters and

1943
02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:44.560
you know their animation routines to look
totally sweet, so you're gonna you know,

1944
02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:46.239
really spend a lot of time and
every on those, So yeah,

1945
02:06:46.239 --> 02:06:48.520
it ends up being that situation where
you know, yeah, if if you're

1946
02:06:48.600 --> 02:06:53.119
hiring relatively unskilled labor to generate a
lot of your assets, you have to

1947
02:06:53.199 --> 02:06:55.239
expect that, you know, some
of that stuff's not going to come in

1948
02:06:55.279 --> 02:06:58.239
how you want it, and if
you have the time, hopefully you'll be

1949
02:06:58.279 --> 02:07:01.720
able to fix that stuff without just
dropping it into the game and hoping for

1950
02:07:01.800 --> 02:07:10.399
the best. But yeah, yeah, that's speak greets Uh Dylan in Queens,

1951
02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:15.159
New York, Hey bomb cast with
with E three just around the corner.

1952
02:07:15.359 --> 02:07:18.199
I was curious if there had been
any thoughts on addressing the nightmare that

1953
02:07:18.359 --> 02:07:23.279
is covering the event. It would
seem more and more that it's become hot

1954
02:07:23.439 --> 02:07:26.680
nigh impossible for you guys to get
excited about the games that are shown when

1955
02:07:26.680 --> 02:07:30.760
you're too busy getting caught in this
endless clusterfuck every year. Perhaps just send

1956
02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:32.560
out an army of interns to walk
the floor while the crew just hangs out

1957
02:07:32.600 --> 02:07:35.600
at a bar and does a live
cast, or make Patrick do it.

1958
02:07:35.680 --> 02:07:40.760
Either way, godspeed and good luck. Uh talk to fair amount about that

1959
02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:45.720
today in the office of out how
we're gonna do it? Want to go

1960
02:07:45.840 --> 02:07:48.159
to the floor, yeah, I
want to go see stuff. I want

1961
02:07:48.199 --> 02:07:53.359
to want to go shake hands,
don't want to hide. As as demanding

1962
02:07:53.399 --> 02:07:59.199
as E three can be and as
infuriating as just the machinations of the whole

1963
02:07:59.239 --> 02:08:03.039
thing can be, still, I
honestly feel like we are probably like one

1964
02:08:03.159 --> 02:08:05.319
to three years away from just getting
our own booth on the floor and doing

1965
02:08:05.399 --> 02:08:11.560
the NonStop please visit us. Yeah, yeah, it's a three. I

1966
02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:13.560
feel like that's where this is headed. Yeah, it gets because those are

1967
02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:20.319
the I think the most frustrating parts
are the communication aspects, the miscommunication aspects

1968
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:22.279
to kind of like you know,
setting up, you know, getting all

1969
02:08:22.359 --> 02:08:26.479
that stuff, showing up at an
event that you were told you could bring

1970
02:08:26.600 --> 02:08:31.359
cameras to you like that guy can't
get in here, especially with this camera,

1971
02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:33.880
or like, well do you.
I just want to cover your event,

1972
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:35.720
That's all I want to do.
I just want to cover the video

1973
02:08:35.760 --> 02:08:39.399
games. Yeah, like that's I
don't want to I'm not here to by

1974
02:08:39.439 --> 02:08:43.680
your goddamn open bar and a cheese
either. I just want to not here

1975
02:08:43.720 --> 02:08:48.840
to take up space and like just
say no next time it's okay, yeah

1976
02:08:48.000 --> 02:08:52.800
straight up, yeah, don't say
it'll probably be okay and then have it.

1977
02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:54.800
Yeah, exactly, that's a nice
dream, except when the person that

1978
02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:56.880
you booked it with is not the
person who agreed to with the go.

1979
02:08:58.520 --> 02:09:00.640
So that's what I'm saying. It's
like, that's it's so much fun.

1980
02:09:00.720 --> 02:09:03.439
That's a really frustrating part is like
the communication and miscommunication part and just kind

1981
02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:07.439
of like in the end, we
really kind of just want, like Jeff

1982
02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:09.680
said, you just want to see
the game and stuff like that, and

1983
02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:13.279
you know, sometimes you can't,
and sometimes there's like maybe we can,

1984
02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.600
And then for every time there's a
maybe we can, it means we're probably

1985
02:09:16.640 --> 02:09:18.960
not seeing something else that because we're
standing around waiting to see like while they

1986
02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:22.119
go check. And then it ends
up being that situation where you've seen the

1987
02:09:22.159 --> 02:09:24.960
game and now you're like, so
we can get the interview that we talked

1988
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.920
about for this right, and then
everyone looks eat, everyone goes, oh

1989
02:09:28.399 --> 02:09:33.199
no, I mean hang on,
if you can hang out here for forty

1990
02:09:33.279 --> 02:09:35.359
five minutes, we can get you
an interview. Like all right, well,

1991
02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:39.119
well we've got three other things,
but we're doing print first. It

1992
02:09:39.279 --> 02:09:48.039
requires it's just weird, unbelievable flexibility
on everyone's part. Everyone. It's easy

1993
02:09:48.079 --> 02:09:52.640
to kind of complain about how some
companies handle this stuff, but is,

1994
02:09:52.239 --> 02:09:56.640
yeah, is they've got billion different
people beating down their door saying like I'm

1995
02:09:56.640 --> 02:10:00.399
not saying it's easy on their part
either, but it's a a lot of

1996
02:10:00.479 --> 02:10:03.079
thinking on your feet. It does. It does get really hard, especially

1997
02:10:03.359 --> 02:10:07.640
like I said, when you're like
when at E three, when like minutes

1998
02:10:07.640 --> 02:10:11.239
are becoming accounted for and you're like, the longer I spent here means I

1999
02:10:11.319 --> 02:10:13.880
need to get to this other place, you know, but this other appointment

2000
02:10:13.159 --> 02:10:16.880
or something, Uh, it gets
really taxing on your nerves. I kind

2001
02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:20.479
of I like you three more because
it's a lot easier at E three to

2002
02:10:20.600 --> 02:10:24.439
cut the non essentials quickly. That's
like, oh we can't get direct feet

2003
02:10:24.439 --> 02:10:30.560
all right, Oh yeah, guy
is still gonna be another five minutes before

2004
02:10:30.600 --> 02:10:31.960
he's ready to go. Well we
have another appointment, see you later.

2005
02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:35.880
But there's also like E three,
I also feel like is a very a

2006
02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:39.319
lot of politics and becomes very apparent
very quickly of like, well we're giving

2007
02:10:39.359 --> 02:10:41.520
it to this guy, We're not
giving it to you. Like I remember

2008
02:10:41.720 --> 02:10:46.159
starting out like years and years ago, going around trying to get like asset

2009
02:10:46.239 --> 02:10:48.920
discs or get in to see stuff
or whatever, and it's like if you

2010
02:10:50.000 --> 02:10:52.319
had like some exhibits only badge its
like forgetting at least. Yeah, and

2011
02:10:52.359 --> 02:10:54.880
it was like weird cases where like
in some cases like I could get an

2012
02:10:54.920 --> 02:10:58.399
asset disk and you couldn't because this
was even before I worked at anything.

2013
02:10:58.520 --> 02:11:01.560
Yeah. Yeah, it is just
like showing up at E three, you

2014
02:11:01.600 --> 02:11:03.000
know, Like I remember even being
at a publication where it was like,

2015
02:11:03.119 --> 02:11:07.159
oh, they are these guys at
the booth, you know, aren't giving

2016
02:11:07.159 --> 02:11:13.520
out BANDA tapes to online broadcast.
It's like we can you realize we can

2017
02:11:13.640 --> 02:11:16.800
take those tapes also, like we
can use those they know. It's sort

2018
02:11:16.800 --> 02:11:18.600
of like a television especially because I
mean I'm sure there are a lot of

2019
02:11:18.640 --> 02:11:22.479
temp employees at this thing. Yeah. Well, it's like they're just being

2020
02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:24.479
handed down. They're being said,
this stuff's only for TV guys. If

2021
02:11:24.479 --> 02:11:28.239
they don't say they don't say broadcast
on them, don't give it to like

2022
02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:30.680
they receive one set of instructions and
they just stick to it. Yeah,

2023
02:11:30.720 --> 02:11:33.319
And that's just how it works.
It's less of an issue. Well,

2024
02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:35.399
there are still issues with with that
stuff. It's not as smooth as that

2025
02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:41.319
specific issue doesn't seem to happen much
crazy. It's a giant crazy machine run

2026
02:11:41.439 --> 02:11:45.479
by a bunch of lunatics. Yeah, and you can't expect you can't expect

2027
02:11:45.560 --> 02:11:48.439
everybody to be on the same thing. Definitely, just just that's why you

2028
02:11:48.520 --> 02:11:50.399
have to think on your feet and
just roll with everything that happens. Everyone

2029
02:11:50.479 --> 02:11:56.479
is all either like super wired on
caffeine or something or completely tirely hung over

2030
02:11:58.279 --> 02:12:01.880
and or sometimes both or both.
It's it's yeah, and also you see

2031
02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:07.680
but then I feel like you also
see within the industry, like while you're

2032
02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:11.199
there, and I really don't mean
this point that at anybody in particular,

2033
02:12:11.279 --> 02:12:15.199
but it's a huge industry on both
ends, and there's a lot of like

2034
02:12:15.279 --> 02:12:18.840
bad behavior on both ends. On
the press side, you got you got

2035
02:12:18.920 --> 02:12:22.439
a lot of jerks and idiots who
are there to just take advantage of of

2036
02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:26.319
of like the hospitality or or like
don't shoot this, so don't shoot this,

2037
02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:31.439
please put your cameras away. Every
presentation starts with like no cameras allowed,

2038
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:33.680
and then a very bit like five
people camera. And so you really

2039
02:12:33.720 --> 02:12:37.880
can't blame people on the other end
for for being like this is a closed

2040
02:12:37.880 --> 02:12:41.640
booth demo, We're not inviting like
everybody in because you get people who are

2041
02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:45.000
just like, you know, you
want to play along. It's gotta work

2042
02:12:45.079 --> 02:12:46.920
both ways, and so it just
makes it harder on everyone at that point

2043
02:12:48.000 --> 02:12:50.319
to be like, yeah, it
sucks. And and then like you know,

2044
02:12:50.439 --> 02:12:54.319
sometimes we'll just be like people will
like accuse you of different things just

2045
02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:56.479
because you have a camera and being
like are you filming that? You're not

2046
02:12:56.560 --> 02:12:58.199
filming that, or you're doing this, and it's like no, like really,

2047
02:12:58.760 --> 02:13:01.920
all I want to do is played
straight, like I just want to

2048
02:13:01.960 --> 02:13:07.159
do my job. It's any not
talking about anyone specific, You're not filming

2049
02:13:07.239 --> 02:13:09.159
that all. That's what they do. They film it. They tell you

2050
02:13:09.239 --> 02:13:18.279
they're not filing light. But it's
like like, yeah, it's it's that

2051
02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:22.720
stuff. When it starts getting like
weirdly personal, like that's when it's just

2052
02:13:22.840 --> 02:13:24.880
like I know it's yeah, to
the point where the people think that you're

2053
02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:30.239
lying or that you have various it's
like I really don't want to see your

2054
02:13:30.279 --> 02:13:33.199
game that badly. Yeah, like
this is this is not how we operate.

2055
02:13:33.239 --> 02:13:35.920
We're not just like here's cland this
dime like that. They just want

2056
02:13:35.920 --> 02:13:37.600
to take advantage of you and they'll
soon you turn your back, they'll film

2057
02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:43.000
it. Like no, it's like
a you overestimate the value of thirty seconds

2058
02:13:43.039 --> 02:13:46.439
of footage of your fucking video game. I don't care what game it is.

2059
02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:48.079
And some of that stuff gets really
weird. That stuff can get really

2060
02:13:48.119 --> 02:13:52.680
frustrating. But E three itself,
you see a lot of cool stuff.

2061
02:13:52.239 --> 02:13:56.079
God man, this podcast was getting
really dark, and I think it's as

2062
02:13:56.159 --> 02:13:58.199
much bitching ammonia. I have to
say, I think we all do.

2063
02:13:58.319 --> 02:14:01.359
It's it's for fun at the end
of it, chick and take him as

2064
02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:05.159
al burritos. It's what HE three
is about. Oh I didn't get one

2065
02:14:05.159 --> 02:14:09.439
of those last year. You're gonna
get it, and you will get it.

2066
02:14:09.479 --> 02:14:13.720
You will get it, all right. I'll fall asleep and it'll end

2067
02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:15.159
up in my head. I mean. But at the end of the day,

2068
02:14:15.159 --> 02:14:18.039
it's not where you're that's not where
you're worried about it coming out of

2069
02:14:18.920 --> 02:14:20.439
You really do walk away and you
see some cool stuff at the end of

2070
02:14:20.479 --> 02:14:24.840
the day. Uh. And it's
a privileged thing to see some of photo

2071
02:14:24.920 --> 02:14:28.239
for people, it's really exciting,
and it's it's weird because it's like I

2072
02:14:28.359 --> 02:14:33.319
kind of feel like i've seen a
lot of I don't know. I count

2073
02:14:33.359 --> 02:14:37.079
it as this is my fifteenth consecutive
E three. How many three's ever been?

2074
02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:41.920
I think seventeen. Yeah, so
this is my seventeenth or whatever.

2075
02:14:43.079 --> 02:14:46.640
But yeah, it's at some point, at some point it just switches,

2076
02:14:46.920 --> 02:14:52.239
you know. You go from like
preparing for E three to just fucking autopilot,

2077
02:14:52.279 --> 02:14:54.359
and it's just like, just give
me the list of things I need

2078
02:14:54.439 --> 02:14:56.600
to write, give me the list
of places I need to be in a

2079
02:14:56.640 --> 02:15:01.039
win, and we'll do it.
Like. Things will come up that get

2080
02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:05.720
in the way, that make that
I'll practically impossible, but we will do

2081
02:15:05.920 --> 02:15:09.560
as much as we can with what
we have. And that that goes for

2082
02:15:09.680 --> 02:15:11.840
if you are a staff of thirty
or a staff of seven, you know

2083
02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:18.159
it's my eleventh. I think ninety
nine. And I don't think I just

2084
02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:26.319
showed up agin until two working E
three. Working it on either end,

2085
02:15:26.840 --> 02:15:31.680
it's I think everybody has a little
dread. I don't endy. I don't

2086
02:15:31.760 --> 02:15:35.319
envy the developers or the pr oh
Man. They've got a way worse than

2087
02:15:35.359 --> 02:15:37.399
we do. Yeah, developers have
to stand in one spot and give the

2088
02:15:37.479 --> 02:15:41.159
same demo over and over. I'm
sure they're excited to show in their game

2089
02:15:41.279 --> 02:15:43.399
like that part is awesome. But
I can always think back to E three

2090
02:15:43.680 --> 02:15:50.319
from two years ago. It was
the first year they were back on like

2091
02:15:50.399 --> 02:15:54.640
the floors. M yeah, but
was that like the weird like still kind

2092
02:15:54.680 --> 02:16:01.079
of meeting. But it was like
there was the there was Santa Moniki year,

2093
02:16:01.279 --> 02:16:03.760
and then there was the meeting room
year. No, no, because

2094
02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:05.840
that was the meeting rooms year.
So this was the one where the Microsoft

2095
02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:11.079
press conference was at the West Hall
or whatever it might have been. No,

2096
02:16:11.239 --> 02:16:15.680
because this and they were all still
in the meeting rooms at the Convention

2097
02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:16.680
Center might have no. No,
No, this was this was like the

2098
02:16:16.760 --> 02:16:26.000
first full return to proper E three, like both both main halls. Anyway,

2099
02:16:26.359 --> 02:16:30.119
I will always remember, like end
of the day, last day,

2100
02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:33.479
we go to Konami and there is
this dude in the Konami booth who I

2101
02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:37.399
have seen the entire show running past
the Economy booth. He is standing in

2102
02:16:37.680 --> 02:16:43.360
the Konami booth running the demonstration for
Karaoke Revolution for for Karaoke Revolution for the

2103
02:16:43.399 --> 02:16:48.040
Wei, which they had just rebooted
and rebranded as just Karaoke Revolution after going

2104
02:16:48.120 --> 02:16:52.440
through like shitload of sequels. Previously
on like the PS two era, and

2105
02:16:52.680 --> 02:16:56.159
you know he's got like a five
song demo of this Karaoke Revolution game that

2106
02:16:56.239 --> 02:17:03.639
he has clearly been demoing NonStop for
the past three days, and over seeing

2107
02:17:03.680 --> 02:17:07.040
him end of the last day and
just beam like, fuck, you know

2108
02:17:07.120 --> 02:17:11.399
what, Jeff, we need to
go and play a song and completely fucking

2109
02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:15.200
blow it out. Will be his
last demo of the whole show, and

2110
02:17:15.280 --> 02:17:18.559
he will be at least somewhat redeemed. We will not let him sing.

2111
02:17:18.600 --> 02:17:20.399
We will both sing. Yeah,
we will sing. You could just stand

2112
02:17:20.440 --> 02:17:24.040
there, sir and watch us have
a really good time with your game and

2113
02:17:24.559 --> 02:17:28.399
sing our guts out to whatever dumb
song is in this. Yeah. So

2114
02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:33.040
I know, no matter how bad
E three might go, at least it

2115
02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:37.079
might E three wasn't that guy's E
three. So I will always hold that

2116
02:17:37.200 --> 02:17:43.879
my heart and uh know that,
know that. So, Yeah, we're

2117
02:17:43.159 --> 02:17:48.840
we're heading down soon. Nah,
I'm going down next Friday and securing the

2118
02:17:48.479 --> 02:17:54.159
location the house, change the locks. Yeah, and then we'll have that

2119
02:17:56.600 --> 02:18:03.479
roll down shortly thereafter and then and
then the three will happen or not.

2120
02:18:03.760 --> 02:18:05.799
I think I think our goal is
just that, you know, we try

2121
02:18:05.879 --> 02:18:09.680
to get as much coverage as we
can, and if you don't see the

2122
02:18:09.760 --> 02:18:13.280
coverage on the site, it's probably
because something bad happened or we got stone

2123
02:18:13.319 --> 02:18:18.959
walled or whatever. So that's why
we kind of can't make That's not entirely

2124
02:18:18.040 --> 02:18:22.520
true. There's there's actually a ton
of stuff that we pass on. We

2125
02:18:22.799 --> 02:18:26.079
do. We do run a pretty
heavy filter, true. I mean,

2126
02:18:26.280 --> 02:18:28.600
right, there's there's a lot of
stuff we're kind of saying no, thank

2127
02:18:28.639 --> 02:18:30.879
you too. There's some stuff that
I saw last week that we're not going

2128
02:18:30.920 --> 02:18:33.920
to go see again, right,
And that doesn't even necessarily mean that they

2129
02:18:33.959 --> 02:18:39.200
are bad games. It's more just
I saw it were time. Time during

2130
02:18:39.239 --> 02:18:43.639
E three is so high pressure.
It's it's really also kind of like it's

2131
02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:46.280
I understand why it exists and it
needs to exist, and it's you know,

2132
02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:50.840
everyone can come together this one time
and everyone can see everyone else's ship,

2133
02:18:50.159 --> 02:18:54.120
and that's an important thing for an
industry. But it's kind of a

2134
02:18:54.239 --> 02:19:00.200
really awful place to go and look
at games as as far as like your

2135
02:19:00.239 --> 02:19:03.319
condition, the condition of the person
that's showing you the game, how many

2136
02:19:03.399 --> 02:19:05.760
other things you were seeing during that
time, like the things that can just

2137
02:19:05.879 --> 02:19:11.959
get lost in the old brain bucket
are are numerous, so I was thinking

2138
02:19:11.000 --> 02:19:15.879
more. I was thinking more of
like Mother, It's uh, it's kind

2139
02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:18.159
of the rise point. But what
I meant in terms of like the coverage

2140
02:19:18.159 --> 02:19:20.760
stuff is like it is not a
place to try and do a quick look,

2141
02:19:20.799 --> 02:19:24.440
expe or direct feed of anything.
That's why like most of that stuff

2142
02:19:24.440 --> 02:19:30.120
winds up being interviews and like the
production team, everybody just scrabbles as much

2143
02:19:30.120 --> 02:19:35.000
be role as you can. The
classic example of the wretched E three demoing

2144
02:19:35.079 --> 02:19:37.760
environment for me was trying to see
a new SIMS game, which is like,

2145
02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:41.760
you know, Sims, pretty steady, sedate series, very detail oriented,

2146
02:19:43.239 --> 02:19:45.399
and I was standing there trying to
get the demo of this game next

2147
02:19:45.440 --> 02:19:50.000
to a speaker taller than me,
like booming like the latest like the latest

2148
02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:52.600
Maddened soundtrack or whatever was coming out
of anything. It's just like it's the

2149
02:19:52.680 --> 02:19:56.239
worst possible plays to try to absorb
information about a game. I remember we

2150
02:19:56.360 --> 02:19:58.840
tried to what do we do?
We did like a fort demo or some

2151
02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:01.680
something. I didn't have a tripod
and didn't have a monopod. Was it

2152
02:20:01.719 --> 02:20:05.920
forts to it was like four to
two or something, and I just wound

2153
02:20:05.040 --> 02:20:09.079
up having to hold the Remember was
it in that back room? Yeah,

2154
02:20:09.200 --> 02:20:18.799
yes, you act third twenty five
thirty minutes. I just kept talking the

2155
02:20:18.000 --> 02:20:22.120
end. Uh So it's a lot
of that kind of stuff. And you

2156
02:20:22.200 --> 02:20:26.559
know, it's getting weirder and weirder. I think it's it is back to

2157
02:20:26.600 --> 02:20:30.239
pretty much just E three, Right, it's weirder and weirder. But you

2158
02:20:30.280 --> 02:20:31.799
know it's like I feel like we
get the access we need to the games

2159
02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:35.719
that we care about, you know
most p but then when it doesn't work

2160
02:20:35.719 --> 02:20:39.639
out that way, then it just
feels yeah, it's it's yes, it's

2161
02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:43.680
yes, and like you know what, that's just that's just us when when

2162
02:20:43.719 --> 02:20:46.280
a big thing happens, like no, your place, like like yes,

2163
02:20:46.399 --> 02:20:50.360
when it's when it's slow, they're
your buddies and they will set you up

2164
02:20:50.360 --> 02:20:54.319
with access. But when it when
it comes when it's USA todaytime, I'm

2165
02:20:54.399 --> 02:20:58.360
sorry, you're you don't rate quite
the same way, which is always always

2166
02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:03.840
kind of weird MA out between like
the eusiest press and then broadcast, which

2167
02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:05.479
you know, I don't know,
I just want to be labeled as broadcast.

2168
02:21:05.559 --> 02:21:09.000
At some point, I don't know, we started our own channel somewhere.

2169
02:21:09.040 --> 02:21:11.719
It doesn't even have to get Yeah, we're broadcast. Yeah, we

2170
02:21:11.879 --> 02:21:15.000
do public access. It's cool,
right, isn't there some union you can

2171
02:21:15.120 --> 02:21:16.159
join? You can start we can
start doing that if you wanted to,

2172
02:21:16.639 --> 02:21:20.799
if you want to start doing public
access, Like is that like would that

2173
02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:24.840
make us more broadcast than like I
don't even yeah, I don't even want

2174
02:21:24.840 --> 02:21:28.639
to think about does that even still
exist? Yeah? Probably access? Yeah.

2175
02:21:28.840 --> 02:21:30.799
Yeah, So like there's weird.
That's just weird stuff like that.

2176
02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:33.399
That's the part that's always weird.
Yeah, that's that's I mean, that's

2177
02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:35.879
kind of been the weird fight,
you know, since I started doing this,

2178
02:21:35.520 --> 02:21:39.040
well, it was in the mid
nineties. It was it was versus

2179
02:21:39.159 --> 02:21:43.399
online thing of just like and there
were Japanese companies that wouldn't work with online

2180
02:21:43.399 --> 02:21:46.280
because they assumed you were pirates.
Like literally they were just like like Square

2181
02:21:46.399 --> 02:21:50.319
didn't want anything to do with you
for you know, until about nineteen ninety

2182
02:21:50.360 --> 02:21:54.280
seven, and then they were like, oh, okay, I guess I

2183
02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:58.120
guess this is still even then even
then, it's super crazy Square. It's

2184
02:21:58.120 --> 02:22:01.760
still kind of super crazy, just
in a different way now. But I

2185
02:22:01.799 --> 02:22:05.680
remember like the height like of early
aughts Square super craziness, you're just like,

2186
02:22:05.959 --> 02:22:11.239
what do you want? Was that
when they wouldn't even cover games when

2187
02:22:11.280 --> 02:22:13.040
they were released, like yeah,
like there was a while they didn't want

2188
02:22:13.040 --> 02:22:16.000
you putting up footage of games or
taking your own screenshots of games after they

2189
02:22:16.040 --> 02:22:20.440
were out. It was like and
and you know, it's like you hadn't

2190
02:22:20.440 --> 02:22:24.959
really gotten through those battles enough times
to really know to just say you're out

2191
02:22:26.000 --> 02:22:28.959
of your fucking mind and just do
it. So it was, yeah,

2192
02:22:30.000 --> 02:22:33.479
those are those were days when like
constant threats of like, we will not

2193
02:22:33.559 --> 02:22:37.079
work with you anymore if you do
know exactly, yeah, NonStop. Any

2194
02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:41.360
any Japanese company was all about threatening
to cut you off any chance they got

2195
02:22:41.520 --> 02:22:43.200
yea, and a lot of the
US companies also. Yeah, it was

2196
02:22:43.239 --> 02:22:48.280
just it was everything was for a
standoffice as things can get now about like

2197
02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:52.079
footage stuff. Like to me that
that viewpoint just seems like very old school,

2198
02:22:52.200 --> 02:22:56.760
like outdated, like someone who someone
who is not out there in the

2199
02:22:56.840 --> 02:23:00.879
field understanding how things actually work now, they still think like, oh,

2200
02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:05.120
you know, no, you guys
can't put up take if you if you're

2201
02:23:05.159 --> 02:23:09.639
gonna take screenshots, you can only
take twenty Like all right, what like,

2202
02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:13.879
I don't want to take any screenshots
of your game, so why don't

2203
02:23:13.879 --> 02:23:18.319
we just start there? Yeah something
like and you have that concession. Yeah,

2204
02:23:18.680 --> 02:23:20.040
I feel like I just say before
we end this, some companies are

2205
02:23:20.120 --> 02:23:24.040
really awesome. Yeah, some companies
do a fantastic ut lately. They have

2206
02:23:24.159 --> 02:23:28.079
they have great assets, they have
they have like all their information they're put

2207
02:23:28.239 --> 02:23:31.719
communication. Uh, they go as
far as say there are great people in

2208
02:23:31.760 --> 02:23:37.040
every company. Yeah. Yeah,
Sometimes it's just sometimes sometimes sometimes the wheels

2209
02:23:37.079 --> 02:23:39.559
need a little I don't mean to
make it sound like all these companies are

2210
02:23:39.600 --> 02:23:43.000
bad. Like sometimes it's you walk
away like that was perfect, that's really

2211
02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.120
weird. That wasn't Wow, I
got all the access that I wanted.

2212
02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:48.840
It was super quick. We'll be
able to turn this around. There'll be

2213
02:23:48.879 --> 02:23:54.559
a great piece, it'll be super
smooth. And yeah, sometimes you have

2214
02:23:54.600 --> 02:23:56.879
to fight for it. Sometimes it's
still worth diff to fight for it.

2215
02:23:58.000 --> 02:23:58.920
Yeah, you know. And sometimes
you fight for it and don't get it,

2216
02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:03.319
and it's like I don't I don't
understand, Like it's not I don't

2217
02:24:03.639 --> 02:24:07.399
I understand the notion of not wanting
to spoil things story related to this game

2218
02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:11.440
or whatever. But yeah, so
sometimes stuff it just seems you're basically standing

2219
02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:16.000
there saying please don't cover this game, Like Okay, that's what you really

2220
02:24:16.040 --> 02:24:20.319
want, we can help with that. That takes literally the least amount of

2221
02:24:20.360 --> 02:24:22.959
effort from us. So if,
in fact, if that's gonna be your

2222
02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:28.319
approach, let us know up front. It'll be a fun one. It

2223
02:24:28.399 --> 02:24:35.639
will at some point at yeah,
in about four weeks. Yeah, you

2224
02:24:35.680 --> 02:24:41.280
know, I really I usually really
enjoy all the press conference stuff because it's

2225
02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:43.239
kind of passive. Yeah, that's
just like when you're there, you're like,

2226
02:24:43.520 --> 02:24:46.280
those are the exciting moments. Yeah, there's the buzz, there's the

2227
02:24:46.520 --> 02:24:48.760
we don't know what's going to happen
when the lights go down and then they

2228
02:24:48.799 --> 02:24:54.559
start showing games and like, you
know, like it's it's always the most

2229
02:24:54.600 --> 02:24:56.760
exciting about E three is the sheet. You don't know anything about it.

2230
02:24:56.760 --> 02:24:58.200
You're sitting a seat and some dude
it's like, I'm gonna tell you all

2231
02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:01.000
about next year. What do you
get you get down to it? E

2232
02:25:01.079 --> 02:25:05.479
three is about three hours long.
Yeah, it's those three price coneens because

2233
02:25:05.479 --> 02:25:07.719
they always end with like you can
see more on the floor and it's it's

2234
02:25:07.799 --> 02:25:09.520
like it's like, oh shit,
they just announced the PlayStation four and oh

2235
02:25:09.559 --> 02:25:15.840
shit, Steven Spielberg and oh my
god, stuff tag guns. They're amazing.

2236
02:25:16.520 --> 02:25:18.879
Did you say it's four hours on
three? I said three, but

2237
02:25:20.040 --> 02:25:22.200
I mean it's about seven if James
Cameron's there, you know. Yeah,

2238
02:25:24.000 --> 02:25:26.079
no, I think you can.
You can substract that would be SAFT press

2239
02:25:26.120 --> 02:25:28.799
conference out there. I hope they
knock it out of the park this year,

2240
02:25:28.840 --> 02:25:31.079
I really do. Joe McHale is
really gonna bring it this year.

2241
02:25:31.120 --> 02:25:35.719
I hope it's teaming him up with
Jamie Kennidates. It is finally the I

2242
02:25:35.760 --> 02:25:39.440
hope they just closed with Michael Jackson
again. Just bring that back. Of

2243
02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:45.520
course, has a lot to answer
for it obvious Obvio's getting out ahead of

2244
02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:48.079
E three. Yeah, exactly.
They're gonna have their thing on the second

2245
02:25:48.200 --> 02:25:50.280
or whatever. Right, Yeah,
it's yeahs open to the public. I

2246
02:25:50.280 --> 02:25:54.200
couldn't really get they're doing parties,
right, which makes it sound like like

2247
02:25:54.280 --> 02:25:56.079
when they first said that, I
was like, so you just want like

2248
02:25:56.280 --> 02:26:00.120
people to show up at we should
gets around the country, you know,

2249
02:26:00.239 --> 02:26:01.559
to one of those interview with the
people who go to it. Yeah,

2250
02:26:01.639 --> 02:26:05.879
exactly, like its press conference,
you're going party. The only question is

2251
02:26:05.879 --> 02:26:09.239
Why are you here? Why are
you here? I thought this was like

2252
02:26:09.319 --> 02:26:13.799
a rally for something I don't know. I was told I was going to

2253
02:26:13.840 --> 02:26:18.760
get a free copy Solid four.
I was told that they were going to

2254
02:26:18.840 --> 02:26:24.479
make another DVD with reaction shots of
people watching a Metal Gear trailers, so

2255
02:26:24.879 --> 02:26:28.000
like a show and be a part
of that. They might actually be doing

2256
02:26:28.040 --> 02:26:30.360
that. That's when they announced that
stuff. That was the first thing I

2257
02:26:30.440 --> 02:26:35.120
thought is that they were trying to
recreate those moments and they need to bring

2258
02:26:35.200 --> 02:26:37.319
the public in to make it happen
again because the press is too jaded.

2259
02:26:37.399 --> 02:26:41.920
That DVD is pretty awesome. I
have to say. That's still that is

2260
02:26:41.959 --> 02:26:45.920
still the defining moment of every three
ever to me was the Metal Gear Solid

2261
02:26:46.000 --> 02:26:48.719
two trailers. I never went to
most of those comedy PROCs. I didn't

2262
02:26:48.719 --> 02:26:50.360
make it to that thing. Yeah, but even on the show four that

2263
02:26:50.479 --> 02:26:56.079
DVD, like what a piece of
fucking wankery? What just but indulgence.

2264
02:26:56.719 --> 02:27:01.000
But again it kind of speaks to
just how like significant metal of Solid furs.

2265
02:27:01.239 --> 02:27:05.559
The further around that first trailer,
that first three they showed it out

2266
02:27:05.639 --> 02:27:07.520
was like nothing I have ever seen
before or since. At that show,

2267
02:27:07.600 --> 02:27:11.559
I mean, I Killzone two.
Yeah, still still still still beat the

2268
02:27:11.879 --> 02:27:16.120
because that was not real. That
was fucking smoken. But then you weren't

2269
02:27:16.159 --> 02:27:18.639
really sure not a gear was pretty
clearly a real game. You could see

2270
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:22.799
the scenes that indicated that it was
actually I remember, I remember for years

2271
02:27:22.120 --> 02:27:26.360
you would walk past the Konami booth
and there would be this fucking sea of

2272
02:27:26.559 --> 02:27:30.000
kids sitting cross legged in front of
whatever giant screen they had that was showing

2273
02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:31.920
the nine. It was always made
it so much fun to have exhibit or

2274
02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:35.319
badges because you could just walk around
the night before and hope that they were

2275
02:27:35.360 --> 02:27:37.440
running their trailer loop or at least
look at all the signage that was going

2276
02:27:37.520 --> 02:27:41.200
up as they were building the booths. But while I trying to act totally

2277
02:27:41.239 --> 02:27:43.719
not exactly act like you're not paying
any attention to it, I'm totally union.

2278
02:27:45.399 --> 02:27:48.120
I'm just just standing here. Just
look, I eat a sandwich hanging

2279
02:27:48.159 --> 02:27:50.959
on this boss. I'm not trying
to look at all of the signs on

2280
02:27:52.040 --> 02:27:54.479
these kiosks, not all writing down
the things we need to go play tomorrow.

2281
02:27:56.360 --> 02:28:03.200
And the security guard that will not
take any of your over our bullshit.

2282
02:28:03.959 --> 02:28:05.840
I always found they would take a
surprise. Yeah, it's just like,

2283
02:28:05.959 --> 02:28:09.959
oh, yeah, you know,
where's your booth us here Southall I

2284
02:28:11.000 --> 02:28:16.000
don't know. Well find it?
Shit, Thanks, thanks dude, I

2285
02:28:16.040 --> 02:28:18.399
appreciate it. Hey, have a
good night. Go back to this un

2286
02:28:18.440 --> 02:28:22.719
air conditioned convention center hall. Oh
god, that's why you don't get a

2287
02:28:22.760 --> 02:28:28.760
booth working in the hall after hours
and the ac dies. Just that standing

2288
02:28:28.840 --> 02:28:31.879
air. It doesn't help. If
you're working in a fucking plastic box,

2289
02:28:33.040 --> 02:28:39.760
yep, that doesn't help. So
the combination of freestanding still convention center air

2290
02:28:39.920 --> 02:28:43.200
booth funk. Well. I'm not
saying let's build a plastic box to work

2291
02:28:43.239 --> 02:28:48.520
out. I'm saying let's build a
live set. What if we do that?

2292
02:28:48.559 --> 02:28:50.840
Anyways? What if it just at
the house. We build a plastic

2293
02:28:50.920 --> 02:28:54.239
box to work out, only if
it has like stickers of my face that

2294
02:28:54.360 --> 02:28:58.239
we can put on it. I'll
talk to Daniel, I'll see what we

2295
02:28:58.319 --> 02:29:01.319
would get. But we can get
mocked up before the show. Rice,

2296
02:29:03.559 --> 02:29:07.840
big stickers of our faces? Want
big stickers of Tim Tracy? I think,

2297
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.959
yeah, he's been thrown those up
all across Williamsburg. All right,

2298
02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:18.239
that's it for emails. Thanks everyone
who wrote in. Once again, if

2299
02:29:18.280 --> 02:29:20.319
you want to email, read on
the show BombCast at John bomb dot com.

2300
02:29:20.440 --> 02:29:24.399
Is the address uh T ANDT this
week. As I said, Dirt

2301
02:29:24.600 --> 02:29:28.399
three for PS three and Xbox three
sixty. If you are part of the

2302
02:29:30.280 --> 02:29:37.200
the Promotional Creation Community posse, the
dudes what make our big promo banags for

2303
02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:43.120
TNT TNT League, the TNT League
exactly, women voters. The dimensions of

2304
02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:46.719
that unit have been changed because we've
got to do homepage. Yeah, people

2305
02:29:46.799 --> 02:29:50.959
might see it already. It's awesome. I'm really excited about it. I

2306
02:29:50.000 --> 02:29:54.799
hope you guys like it and enjoy
the changes we've made. But some of

2307
02:29:54.840 --> 02:29:58.879
those changes require some adjustments for promotions. So head to the thread on the

2308
02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:03.440
forums concerning the stuff if if you're
if you're part of that posse and otherwise

2309
02:30:03.479 --> 02:30:07.600
just enjoy the new homepage. Yeah, there's live video will play right on

2310
02:30:07.719 --> 02:30:13.959
it. And Dave, it's a
free week for the Whiskey Media Happy Hour

2311
02:30:13.319 --> 02:30:18.520
this week, so we will be
taking another look at at Bastion will have

2312
02:30:18.959 --> 02:30:22.879
some of the super Giant guys in
the studio. That also means that the

2313
02:30:22.959 --> 02:30:24.840
happy hour will be starting at three
thirty rather than four o'clock. Yeah,

2314
02:30:26.079 --> 02:30:30.120
to make room for those cats and
of course, and of course there will

2315
02:30:30.120 --> 02:30:33.280
be the post show Dave TV,
Dave Collins, I'm Dave, if you

2316
02:30:33.360 --> 02:30:37.600
want to talk, if you've been
in the Sun for too long as well,

2317
02:30:39.680 --> 02:30:43.559
But that I think that part is
that is members only. That is

2318
02:30:43.600 --> 02:30:46.639
members only. That's right, that's
right, the Daves. You gotta be

2319
02:30:46.680 --> 02:30:50.760
a member. Pay I can't even. Yeah, yeah I have. I

2320
02:30:50.840 --> 02:30:52.760
signed up for an account so I
can get, I get. I just

2321
02:30:52.799 --> 02:30:56.040
give him a fight. I paid
that with my own money. Add so,

2322
02:30:56.120 --> 02:31:01.239
uh he said I needed to subscribe
again to talk to dude. That

2323
02:31:01.319 --> 02:31:03.840
might not be archives, so cash
it live. Yeah, never know.

2324
02:31:05.079 --> 02:31:07.079
And if you want to if you
want to talk Dave about the new redesign,

2325
02:31:07.680 --> 02:31:16.120
probably good anything literally anything Russian video
games, bon ivor you want to

2326
02:31:16.159 --> 02:31:18.959
pay tribute to Randy Savage, whatever, whatever, there's your window. Yeah,

2327
02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:22.680
you've got all sorts of opportunities there, So look for that later this

2328
02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:24.479
week, and of course we'll be
back next Tuesday with another dish and on

2329
02:31:24.559 --> 02:31:26.239
the Dad All again