WEBVTT

1
00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:15.480
The Ham Radio two point zero audio
podcast rip. Thank you for downloading and

2
00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:19.239
listening to this podcast. So basically
what I do is I take all the

3
00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.679
audio clips out of my videos and
upload them to spreaker, and then from

4
00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:30.320
there they're spread out to iTunes and
SoundCloud and now Amazon Audible as well.

5
00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:34.759
But I want to welcome you and
thank you for joining the audio section of

6
00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:39.719
this series on Ham Radio. I
hope you enjoy it, and I would

7
00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:45.920
appreciate you leaving us a comment or
review on whatever podcast service you're listening from.

8
00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:53.920
Thank you. In seventy three,
hope you enjoy it. More crackdowns

9
00:00:53.960 --> 00:01:00.079
on CB radio interference and this time
they've issued a citation twenty five dollars fine

10
00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:07.640
to a man in Rockford for willfully
interfering with CBE radio transmissions. You don't

11
00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.280
even have to have a license to
transmit on CV it is citizen's band,

12
00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:17.799
but you can still get fine for
it. Check this out. This story

13
00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:22.359
comes from Rockford Scanner dot com and
I went and found the FCC notices and

14
00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.760
FCC sections that it talks about in
here. The title is FCC has been

15
00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.599
in town and charges the Rockford man
for jamming the airwaves. I read another

16
00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:36.159
story recently about someone transmitting more power
than they were supposed to, and they're

17
00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.000
looking at that right now as well. More to come on that later.

18
00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.159
Read the article in full here,
and it basically just kind of quotes the

19
00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.319
article. And this website looks like
a Ham Radio Club website because it's just

20
00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.879
kind of like front page two thousand
looking. So we're gonna go over here

21
00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:55.439
and look at the FCC Communications.
We propose a penalty twenty five thousand dollars

22
00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.680
against Jamie or Heimi maybe he pronounces
it Heimi. John Leon, referred to

23
00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.319
as Leon the owner and operator of
a Citizens Bands radio service in Rockford,

24
00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.879
Illinois, for apparently engaging in unauthorized
operation and violation of Section three on one

25
00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:13.280
of the Communications Act of nineteen thirty
four, as amended in sections ninety five

26
00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.280
dot nine three three and ninety five
dot nine five seven. Part ninety five

27
00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:21.319
is the FCC part that regulates the
CB radio service. So I went and

28
00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:24.520
looked up sections ninety five dot nine
three three and ninety five dot nine five

29
00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:30.560
seven. Ninety five dot nine three
three talks about right here. In addition

30
00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.280
to the prohibit, the prohibited uses
set forth in nine five dot three three

31
00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.960
three nine five dot nine three three, which is the one we're talking about

32
00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:45.120
today. Station must not use a
CBRSCB radio station to transmit one way communications

33
00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.319
other than those permitted. One way
communication is basically to use it as a

34
00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:52.439
broadcast station, like you would turn
on your AMNFM car stereo and listen to

35
00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:54.919
a one way transmission. You're not
allowed to just key down and start talking

36
00:02:54.960 --> 00:03:00.159
about whatever anything and just not It's
it's made for two way radio, it's

37
00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.840
not made for one way transmissions.
Kind Of hard to determine that sometimes,

38
00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:07.560
but that's that is what the rules
say. To advertise or solicit the sale

39
00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:12.800
of any goods or services, to
advertise political candidate, to communicate with stations

40
00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.520
in other countries except the General Radio
Service and stations in Canada. Now,

41
00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:19.919
I would have questions about that.
When I read that, I was like,

42
00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.879
wait a minute, hold on a
second, because people shoot skip on

43
00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:27.000
CB all the time and talk to
other countries all the time. When I

44
00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.120
used to be heavy back into the
CB when I was in college, we

45
00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.879
would talk to South America and other
countries all the time because they were on

46
00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:38.840
the air and the bands were open
propagation was up. HF bands were hot,

47
00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:43.560
and we would hear them and communicate
with them all the time. In

48
00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.080
fact, you would always if the
skip was up, that would be a

49
00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:50.039
thing, and like working DX and
HAM radio, So that kind of surprise.

50
00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.360
I would have to read more into
that about Part D section nine to

51
00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:59.240
five dot three three Part D to
communicate with stations in other countries. I

52
00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.199
don't know what that means exactly,
so more to come on that later.

53
00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.879
And here's the part. F.
E is to transmit communications of live delayed

54
00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.680
broadcast on radio, so, in
other words, to retransmit copyrighted material.

55
00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.000
F is to transmit music, whistling, sound effects, or any other audio

56
00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:19.240
material to amuse or entertain. And
G is to transmit any sounds effects solely

57
00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.959
to attract attention. So that's that's
the one they got him on right there.

58
00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:27.680
And it also details part ninety five
ninety five to seven, And that

59
00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:30.279
part right here, nine five seven
has three parts. Except as specified in

60
00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:34.000
B and C of the section.
The operator must limit each on our conversation

61
00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.319
with operators and other CBS to no
more than five minutes. That's a rule

62
00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:42.639
they don't enforce if you are keyed
up on the CB and you have a

63
00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:46.839
ten fifteen to twenty thirty minute conversation
with someone, an hour long conversation with

64
00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.160
someone, no one's gonna come knock
on your door. I think they used

65
00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:54.879
instances of this where they can cite
people for doing other things. Okay,

66
00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:57.680
they're like, well, technically it
says you're not supposed to keep up for

67
00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.879
more than five minutes, so you're
not supposed to have conversations for more than

68
00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:04.920
five minutes on air conversation. It's
not that he keeped down and didn't let

69
00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:10.199
off the key for five minutes.
It's that he limit each on air conversation

70
00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.680
with operators of other CB radio stations
to no more than five minutes. I've

71
00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.279
done that a thousand times. Not
recently, but I've done that a thousand

72
00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.319
times. So I think that's probably
something they just have on the books where

73
00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.720
they can say, Okay, well
you did this, so you're in violation.

74
00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.720
But if you're out there just having
a casual conversation, they're not going

75
00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.000
to come knocking on your door send
you a letter in the mail over that.

76
00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:34.720
I don't think when a CB operator
is directly participating in emergency communications it

77
00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:39.279
does not have to comply with paragraph
in the section and link the transmissions.

78
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:43.519
When an operator is using CBE radio
station to assist a traveler, it does

79
00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.720
not have to have to comply.
Okay, so except for assistance of travelers

80
00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:51.319
and emergency communications, doesn't have to
comply with that. But regardless of that,

81
00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.120
I've still done that hundreds, if
not thousands of times, because more

82
00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.360
than five minutes conversations take place on
the CBE radio all the time, or

83
00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:01.279
at least used. If you're driving
down the road and there's another truck driver

84
00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:05.160
near you and you guys strike up
a conversation, those those conversations many many

85
00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:10.759
times last longer than five minutes.
So I thought that was a strange thing

86
00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.079
to be in the regulation. But
okay, okay, again, it's just

87
00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:19.800
it's like spitting on the sidewalk.
They're not going to find you for that,

88
00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.040
but if they see you do that, they can say, oh,

89
00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.759
well, you broke the law.
So let's take a look in your car

90
00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.319
and see if we find any weed
or pot illegal substances in there. Hopefully

91
00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.279
that won't be a thing much longer. The Commission's rules authorize the operation of

92
00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.240
cb radio stations without the grant of
visual license. Citizens band does not require

93
00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.240
license it used to back in like
the seventies, sixties, and seventies.

94
00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:45.279
They removed that a long time ago, conditioned on compliance with all applicable regulations,

95
00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.720
subject to limited exceptions, not applical
in this case. The Commission's rules

96
00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:53.160
generally prohibit the use of CB for
one way verbal communications in other words like

97
00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:58.319
radio style broadcast transmissions, limit conversations
to five minutes in length, with which

98
00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:00.199
again I think is kind of a
little bit of a gray area at the

99
00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.639
very least, and prohibit the transmission
of music, sound effects, et cetera.

100
00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.560
Yeah, so all those toys,
all those Cebe radio toys that you

101
00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:11.199
hear on Channel nineteen all the time, those are all illegal. Does anyone

102
00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.600
care? Ah, Channel nineteen's a
dumpster fire on CEBE radio anyway? And

103
00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.879
and GMRS is getting to be that
way sidestep that comment, But does anyone

104
00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:24.279
cares that Channel nineteens a dumpster fire? Ah? Some people might, I

105
00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:28.279
don't know. Leon apparently violated the
Act and the Commission's rules by using a

106
00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:32.519
CBE station to make one way transmissions
and send nonverbal, indecipherable sound effects over

107
00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:38.519
long periods, thereby avoiding his operating
authority. Leon also apparently caused willful and

108
00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.920
malicious interference in violation of Section three
thirty three of the Act. Such illegal

109
00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:46.240
operations pose a danger to the public
because they can disrupt authorized CB uses such

110
00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.240
as travelers, needing assistants, warnings
of hazards and conditions, were pointing accidents,

111
00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:54.439
et cetera. Moreover, CB can
be used by public service providers and

112
00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:59.199
first responders during natural disasters without infrastructure
and damage and non existence. So Channel

113
00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:03.519
nine we talked about that in the
video a while back. Does anyone still

114
00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.639
use Channel nine? I would think
so. This statement goes on for a

115
00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.560
while. I'm not going to read
the whole thing to you guys, but

116
00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.680
I'm gonna pick out the pieces I
want, and I will link this in

117
00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:15.120
the description below so that you can
go and read about this violation if you

118
00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:16.279
want to. Now, if you
want to, if you want to learn

119
00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:24.639
more about violations and just general overall
radio regulations, visit hamradioprep dot com,

120
00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.480
where you can save a twenty percent
discount on all of their courses to get

121
00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.720
your hand radio license with the coupon
code of Jason twenty Ham Radio Prep offers

122
00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.039
license courses for Technician, General,
and extra all three levels of Ham radio.

123
00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.799
They offer a Balfing Basics course.
They offer a new HF course that

124
00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.480
tells you how to operate HF,
how to find frequencies that are clear and

125
00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.120
whatnot if you want to get on
the air for like parts on the air

126
00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.159
or de expeditions or something like that. Really good courses handradioprep dot com.

127
00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.360
They are a supporter of this channel
and I thank them for sponsoring this video.

128
00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:58.879
But if you want to learn all
about Ham radio and HAM radio courses,

129
00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.039
visit the link below and be sure
to use the Cooplan code adjacent twenty

130
00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.440
to save a twenty percent discount.
This section here got my attention. Leon

131
00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.200
has a history of non compliance with
Commission regulations. On January nineteenth to nineteen

132
00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:15.440
ninety nine, the Commission's former Consumer
and Information Bureau released a forfeiture order imposing

133
00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:20.240
a fourteen thousand dollars monetary penalty against
Leon for the transmission of obscene and decent

134
00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.279
or profane words or language or meaning, and for failure to make his station

135
00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:31.480
records available for inspection, both violations
of this Commission's CB rules. Leon did

136
00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.799
not respond to the forfeiture order nor
pay the forfeiture amount. Okay, I

137
00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:41.279
wonder how well these citations and fines
are regulated or how well they're enforced.

138
00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:45.600
Subsequently, on March first to twenty
eleven, twelve Freakin years later, March

139
00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.440
first to twenty eleven, the Enforcement
Bureau issued a notice of violation to Leon,

140
00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:54.639
stating that the Bureau agent monitored continuously
transmitting music and sound effects from a

141
00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:58.639
CB station install installed in a U
haul vehicle, the same type of behavior

142
00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.120
at issue in the case in violation
of the Rules Affecting Obscene and decent profane

143
00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:09.080
language Paragraph bait. We find that
Leon apparently will feel repeatedly violated Section three

144
00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:11.919
oh one of the Act of these
sections, although section ninety five three or

145
00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.840
five author raates of person operation CB
without the grant of an individual license nine

146
00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.960
Zho five of the rules provide that
such operating authority is automatically voided by the

147
00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.200
violation of any applicable rules. On
June twenty first and twenty twenty two,

148
00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:31.279
Leon apparently violated these sections again and
the section we talked about today, by

149
00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.399
using his station to make a thirty
minute one way transmission comprised of nonverbal indeciperable

150
00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.279
sound effects. September twenty eight,
twenty twenty two, Leon claimed the source

151
00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:46.240
of the unauthorized transmission was a milk
crate containing a battery operated CB placed by

152
00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.519
an unidentified third party in the at
the corner near his house. Okay,

153
00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.159
so he's blaming his Oh, someone
put a CB in a milk crate on

154
00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:58.480
my property and that's what's causing those
transmissions. Okay. Yeah, You've got

155
00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.720
like twenty four years here of interfering
on CB and apparently the FCC has done

156
00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.720
nothing about it. Some of these
comments on these videos I make, they're,

157
00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.320
oh, the FCC is never going
to do anything. Well, they

158
00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.720
do, they just don't enforce it
very well. So I don't know.

159
00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.320
I don't know. If this guy
ever wants to go get a passport and

160
00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.720
he sees these fines from the FCC
on his on his record, there's no

161
00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:24.000
way he'd be able to get a
job that requires some sort of background check

162
00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.240
or high secret clearance with the government. You know, he's pretty much screwed

163
00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:30.879
himself from doing that at all.
Even if he never pays it. He's

164
00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.440
got these citations on his record.
So there's gonna be some sort of something

165
00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.919
where this is going to come up
later on in life, assuming that he's

166
00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.720
not eighty five years old and just
a grumpy old man today, which maybe

167
00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.879
he is. But the conclusion is
accordingly. After applying the Forfeiture Policy Statement,

168
00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.759
Section one dot eighty of the Commission's
Rules and the statutory factors, we

169
00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:52.120
have determined that Leon apparently wilfully and
repeatedly violated these sections. Violated sections three

170
00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.120
I one three thirty three in the
sections of ninety five nine through three ninety

171
00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.519
nine fifty seven of the Commissions Rules. As such, Leon is apparently liable

172
00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:03.480
for four fture of twenty five thousand
dollars. In order for Leon to pay

173
00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.279
the proposed furniture, he will have
to notify the Office of Field Director feel

174
00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.759
at FCC dot Cove his intent to
pay. Real protent invoice will be posted

175
00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:16.200
to the Commission's registration system at this
URL. Upon payment, Leon shall send

176
00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.960
electronic notification to payment to the office. Payment a forfeiture must be made by

177
00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.799
credit card. It's payment by wire
transfer, so it tells him how to

178
00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.679
pay. The Commission will not consider
reducing or canceling the forfiture in response to

179
00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:33.600
a claimable inability to pay unless the
petitioner submits the following documentation. This PDF

180
00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.320
file doesn't necessarily say what happens if
he doesn't pay at all? What's the

181
00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:41.679
point? I mean, Hey,
go to this guy's house, knock on

182
00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:43.799
his door, ask for payment.
If he doesn't pay it, put him

183
00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.879
in jail. How are you going
to enforce these types of citations and notifications

184
00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.759
and violations? How are you going
to enforce this if you just issue a

185
00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.159
statement saying you have to pay this
money? Okay, see, it'll be

186
00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.879
twenty three years later you still haven't
paid it. You know. I think

187
00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.799
that the FCC needs to make an
example of one or two of these of

188
00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.600
these guys who do this kind of
crap. Here's what we're gonna do.

189
00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:09.240
We're gonna actually put you in jail. I don't know. I mean,

190
00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.639
do you think this guy should go
to jail? Do you think they should

191
00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:15.919
be more hardcore about actually citing him
and collecting that money? What do you

192
00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.399
think? I'd like to know what
you think? Put a comment blow Thanks

193
00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:18.120
for watching today