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This is an email from Matt in
Ohio, and this is terrifying. I

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had a horrifying experience when I was
fourteen. I live in Youngstown, Ohio,

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where I grew up on the north
side of town, and it was

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surrounded by old steel mills. My
buddy lived directly across the street from those

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mills, and for us it was
a wonderland, a massive playground of dilapidated

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buildings and vagrant lights where most of
the businesses were shut down. There were

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certain buildings that we frequented more than
others, and one of them we made

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our home base. We spent weeks
building walls and strengthening spots so that no

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one could get in, especially the
vicious wild dogs that ran in packs through

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the area. Our home base didn't
have any stairs, so we had to

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jump up to get in, and
it made things safer for us. It

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was right next to an active railroad
that brought supplies to one of the mills

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that was still in operation. We
used to build massive fires in the middle

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of the first floor of our home
base, around which we would erect a

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wall of big metal U shaped things
to give us privacy and safety, and

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if anyone saw us from the railroad. They would have called the cops and

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we would have been in trouble.
Well. It was Youngstown, Ohio in

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the mid nineties, also known as
murder Town, USA. We carried guns

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because there were plenty of gangs around, even the Bloods and the crypts,

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and that justified our behavior. One
summer night, we were hanging out like

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usual when we heard a pack of
dogs coming and it sounded like they were

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chasing something, so we went out
to watch in case they came near.

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From over a huge amount of coke
the mills used in the still making process,

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we heard them begin to fight,
and it sounded like a violent attack

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involving all the dogs. After a
few seconds, we heard a louder dog

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above all the others, and then
the wild dogs began to scream like they

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were being torn to pieces, and
at certain points, to our horror,

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dogs were literally being thrown over the
mound in different directions. Finally, the

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wild dogs ran away as fast as
they could. The ones that survived the

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fight and many were obviously injured,
and we were in shock. About that

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time, one of my friends screamed, what is that? Look at that

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thing? We turned and saw a
giant, wolf like animal that looked too

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big to be real. Crawling on
all fours to the top of the mound.

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It got to the top, and, still staring after the wild dogs,

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it lifted its head and marked its
territory, and the amount of yearine

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it released brought home the reality of
how big this thing was. It scared

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the hell out of us. One
of my buddies reacted by stumbling backwards and

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into our makeshift metal wall, and
he knocked it over, but the noise

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drew that thing's attention to us.
No words can express the amount of fear

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that we were all feeling. The
memory of that moment still fills me with

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terror, and even now the hairs
on my arms were standing on end as

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I write this. The thing had
amber colored eyes that glowed as if they

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had a power source behind them,
and looking back, we agreed that it

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was from the light of the huge
bonfire burning behind us. It growled in

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a low rumble, and it rattled
our insides. I felt that in my

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chest, I said. In answer. One of my buddies complained that he

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felt white headed, while another said
he felt sick to his stomach. Well,

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I didn't feel that way. But
we were all still terrified. This

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creature then did something that was so
foreign to our understanding of the world that

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we all turned and ran. It
stood up on two legs. They looked

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like a pair of dogs legs,
but the large muscles were more like those

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of a bodybuilder, but they were
bigger. We all bolted inside the building,

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and we scrambled up the two sets
of broken and missing concrete stairs to

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the third floor. It's a miracle
that none of us fell and broke a

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leg. And one of my friends
was so terrified that he was crying when

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we got to the third floor.
We had to smack and shake him to

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calm him down. We even had
to cover his mouth until he almost passed

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out from lack of air. We
were hoping the thing had left, but

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it hadn't. After what seemed like
an hour but was probably only a minute,

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we heard it climb up onto the
outside of the building so that it

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could get in. As we held
our breaths, we saw it shadows spread

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across the far wall. Its shadow
was ten times larger than the beast.

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But we got the idea that this
thing was huge. We were too scared

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to move. No one made a
sound. We should have ducked down and

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out of sight, but we were
frozen in place. It stepped into the

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light and we had a full view
of it, and it was at least

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the size of a grizzly bear,
And because it was so large, it

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was hard not to think that we
had to be dreaming. But this was

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real, and we were agonizingly aware
of that fact. It growled and sniffed

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the air. Then one deliberate motion, it turned its head and looked straight

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at us. It knew where we
were. Its eyes glowed with that awful

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amber fire as it began to drool
in a way that said it was hungry

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and we were about to become its
meal. We knew it could have easily

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killed us if it could reach us. It turned and looked at the stairs.

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At that moment, another overwhelming dose
of or slammed into our stomachs when

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it began to walk over to the
stairs. This thing was coming up to

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us up the stairs, and we
began to frantically look around for a way

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to escape. Our only hope was
the outside firestairs heading up to the roof,

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and the park that went down had
long since rusted away and fallen off

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This creature hopped easily over the three
missing bottom steps and was on the second

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floor in just an instant, and
as it walked over to the next set

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of stairs, we heard the most
beautiful sound we've ever heard. A train

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was passing by the building. We
knew they saw the fire because they blew

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the trees and horn. The wolf
creature looked out through the opening in the

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side of the building, and in
two seconds it ran out of the building

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and it was gone. We all
started screaming for help, but no one

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heard us, but we needed to
scream to release the stress. I guess

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we felt like we were going to
be okay at that moment, but that

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didn't last for long, and when
the train was no longer in hearing range,

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fear set in again. Every sound
we heard was perceived as a warning

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that it was coming back, and
I thank God that it didn't. It

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wasn't until then that we remembered that
we had three pistols with us, and

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we got them out and we took
the safeties off and headed down to the

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second floor. There we waited for
twenty seconds and we listened, and once

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we thought it was safe, we
went down to the first floor. And

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waited an hour before we got up
the nerve to go outside. With our

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guns pointing in every direction and our
flashlights pointing straight in front of us,

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we made our way back to our
friend's house. That was the most nerve

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wracking part. We didn't have led
flashlights back then. They were the cheap

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plastic type that didn't offer much light. The four of them together got us

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home, but not before we jumped
at every sound and movement in the shadows,

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and when the wild dogs began to
bark somewhere in the distance, we

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took it as our queue to run, and we didn't stop until we reached

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my buddy's house. Those of us
who are still alive talk about that night

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every time we get together or talk
on the phone. We will remember it

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until the day we die. Whenever
I hear a story about someone else's experience,

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I'm brought right back to that night
and I feel true fear again.

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All right, here's a story from
Lefty, and this is fantastic. This

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is where I'm supposed to tell you
how I'm a lifelong hunter and a hog

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trapper and a pretty good cowboy.
Well i am, but that's not important.

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But the fact that I had recently
gone through a divorce, and our

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son and two foster sons are all
grown up. As a little more relevant

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because that is what got me in
the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Having never had an empty nest before, I got what the Canadians call a

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cabin fever. Suddenly I had extra
time and extra money, and I swear

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I didn't know what to do with
myself. I needed a new hobby or

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three, and I ended up following
a young fellow from East Texas that likes

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to take long kayak trips on these
beautiful hill country rivers and pitch a tent

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or string a hammock between two trees
on a sand bar. He and his

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buddies all used GoPros and they fill
their weekends and memory cards with adventure.

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They do a fine job of editing
their content after each trip, and I

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figured that I would do the same. I bought a good fishing kayak and

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a three man tent. It was
designed for alpine hikers and it weighs almost

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nothing. Now I hit the Lower
Guadelupe, figuring a night or two on

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a sand bar eating fresh fish would
teach me what else I might want out

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of life or better. Yet,
what I didn't want While kayaking rapids,

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less weight is the goals, so
you don't want to get top heavy and

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find yourself upside down. It was
still a little early in the spring of

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twenty twenty one, so the water
was cold. But the good news was

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is that I had the entire hill
country to myself. Well that's how it

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seemed at the time. Anyway.
The first day was a blast, and

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I covered a lot of miles and
I camped on some private owned campground.

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It was deserted all the way down
to the river, but on the other

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side of this parcel, which is
a couple of hundred acres, I could

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see some fancy fifth wheel campers with
more pullouts and you can count. We

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call these Winter Texans. That evening, I had the riverfront to myself and

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it was great, and I pitched
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and I cooked up a day's catch. Just as I finished eating in

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the coals from my fire burned down, I heard a commotion. Some wild

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ducks had shared my campsite and were
taking advantage of some lily pads right off

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the bank. I moved slowly so
I wouldn't spook them, but a change

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in menu went through my mind as
I observed them splashing away in the water.

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You better be happy I got a
belly full of fish, because one

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good jump from the shoreline and I
would have a waterfowl for breakfast. It

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would prove ironic because, as it
turns out, someone or something must have

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had similar thoughts. It was right
at dusk, and I had done a

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lot of kayak dragging and paddling all
day. And about the time I got

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in the tent and my head hit
the pillow, I went straight to sleep.

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The usual night sounds like frogs,
chirping and code. He's howling in

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the distance, lulled me like an
outdoorsman's lullaby. I didn't check the time,

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but I know it was in the
middle of the night when I woke

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up. I know he's had jarred
me out of my deep sleep. The

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frogs and the bugs and the code
must have run out of breath and gone

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to bed too, because it was
as silent as a graveyard. Suddenly I

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heard something that clearly was very large, take a couple of running steps and

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splash into the river. It sounded
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The ducks panicked and they took flight, and then suddenly let out one of

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the most god awful noises I've ever
heard. It was like a combination of

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a giant venting frustration like Homer Simpson
on steroids spouting dough, mixed with the

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roar of a lion and the sound
of a passing freight train. That sound

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vibrated the fabric on my tent.
I cannot even begin to replicate what I

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heard, but I will sure I
will never forget it either. At this

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time, every hair on my body
and head and everywhere else was standing on

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end. Think of the silhouette cut
out of a Halloween cat. That's about

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how confident I felt it that moment, and I'm generally a confident guy.

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In Texas, it has said that
God created all men, but it was

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actually Samuel Coat who made them all
equal. Well, my fight or flight

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instinct kicked in, and it must
have agreed with that little saying, because

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I didn't even have a conscious thought
about what I was doing. I tilted

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my ears in the direction of the
river while my hand went for the three

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fifty seven mag that I traveled with, and once it was in my hand,

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I held my breath and I cocked
the hammer back as silently as one

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can cock our hammer back. I
was trying to be quiet, but whatever

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it was heard me. It was
walking out of the water toward my tent.

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I was hearing twin footsteps hitting the
ground, not four of a typical

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forest animal. It got so close
I could hear it breathing, and it

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sounded enormous. I was all nerved
up, and I was trying to calm

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myself by rationalizing that this thing was
only trying to score some supper and as

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long as I wasn't on the menu. I squeezed my buddy Sam Colt with

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my shooting hand, and I told
myself that my visitor was just that,

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just a visitor at this point.
But if he did so much as Poco

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Paul through the door flap of my
tent, I was going to put two

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in the chest and one in the
head. That would still leave me with

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three shots, and I could do
the same thing again if I needed to.

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I was hoping in praying it wouldn't
come to that. Well, Thankfully

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it didn't, and after what seemed
like an eternity, it shuffled its feet

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and started to walk away. It
must have been big. By judging its

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great thudding footsteps that reverberated through my
tent, that thing was just one itchy

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trigger finger away from having a bad
night. The next morning, I looked

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around for tracks, and I could
see some deep impressions, but that was

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it. I packed up my outfit
and I set sail, thinking about last

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night's little battle of wits. And
I didn't know who or what it was

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for sure, but I had places
to go, and I accepted this standoff

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as a draw even as I was
floating into the sunrise. But in my

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mind I was sitting on a great
horse and riding off into the sunset.

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I wasn't coming back anytime soon either. I can assure you of that,

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and it still gives me the heb
gebis to this day. Well, I

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made it back to civilization, and
curiosity got the best of me, and

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I got online and I listened to
every wildlife recording that I could find.

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I knew nothing else that could make
a sound like what I heard that night

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by the river. Let alone walk
upright and hunt ducks without a twelve gage,

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that is until I stumbled onto some
of Ronald Morehead's Sierra sounds, and

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I'm telling you, the very skin
on my body wanted to crawl off and

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go hide under the bed. That's
some creepy stuff. And I don't mind

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admitting that this big, tough guy
does not need to hear any more of

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that nonsense. Heck, I already
could hardly sleep at night before all of

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this. Anyway, Well, one
thing led to another, and I ended

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up on a website that keeps track
of bigfoot sightings, and I was shocked

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to hear that there's a little hotbed
of activity reported near Canyon Lake, close

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to where I was. I continued
down the rabbit hole, trying to educate

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myself, and I found some interesting
channels on YouTube. The more I learned,

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the more I was faced with the
fact that I now know something exists,

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and worse yet, there are millions
of people, some who get paid

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with tax money, no less,
who have been lying to us. What

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a cowpie sandwich for all of us
to munch on. Hack Guys like Judge

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roy Bean and Sam Colton. Me
think suppressing the truth approaches fraud and criminal

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behavior. And I myself had not
overly prone to violence, though some times

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I'd like to smack the smirt from
the government type's face in the media,

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and of course most of the entertainers
who are so vocal in ridiculing people that

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report the kind of things I experienced
and now know are out there. As

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I sit here typing, I occasionally
reach up and make sure that my wide

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brimmed tenfol cowboy hat is sitting on
my head straight. There is so much

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I distrust now in channels like yours
make me feel right at home and a

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little more comfortable with what I witnessed
that night. My eyes couldn't see a

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thing, but my ears new.
The old timers around here never used terms

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like bigfoot and sasquatch or skunk ape. In Texas, we call these things

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boogers. I'm not sure how to
spell it, but there's a lot of

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things I can't spell, and what
I can do is to share any in

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awe that there are some things that
go bump in the night. But maybe

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it isn't all bad. As long
as they hunt ducks and not me,

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they won't have to meet with my
friend Sam Colt. He and I are

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basically insuperable now, but he's old
like me. If you ever hear of

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some poor soul climbing the walls thinking
they're crazy for believing in bigfoot. You

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can give them my number. I
was in that lonely place once and my

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mind and my mood were dark,
and it's a place to visit, but

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I decided not to live there,
and I would want anyone else to live

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there either. You are sharp and
probably noticed I'm not feeling the need to

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discuss the exact location of my little
camp site. I'm also going to ask

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you to use my nickname, which
is Lefty. Some things are just nobody's

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business. Piece from a kayaking hippie
and an old cowpuncher from the Texas hill

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country. Oh that's a great story. I really appreciate it. Both stories

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in this podcast were good, the
Dogman's story and this bigfoot story. Basically,

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what happened. He went camping and
apparently a bigfoot walked into his camp.

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He never saw it. That's a
long and interesting story and a really

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well written story to describe what happened
to him and his journey to find out

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what he thinks is real and what
it's not. I thought this was great.

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I really appreciate it. Thank you
guys for joining me on this podcast,

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and we will see you on the
next one. That's right, that's right.

