WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:28.280 What's going on? Everybody? I am like rolling into here a little bit 2 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.000 late tonight, but I had to do it because I'm here with a good 3 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:33.039 friend of mine, mister John Peters. John, how are we doing tonight? 4 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.920 What's going man? It's doing doing pretty well. It's uh, it's 5 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.200 been an interesting couple of weeks around here. We both live not you know, 6 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.520 right next to each other, but semi close. And uh, first 7 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.039 off, weather can't make up its mind. So my body is like revolting 8 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:53.679 at the moment. Yeah. I keep having to clear my throat like every 9 00:00:53.719 --> 00:01:00.759 four minutes, and god, dang do I hate that. Yeah. On 10 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.959 top of that, we are tonight gonna be ending our conversation talking about extreme 11 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.959 horror. So to celebrate, I've got a little margarita for the first time, 12 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:14.480 drinking something on camera for the first time through all of this, Guys, 13 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.439 John is amazing. John is a patron friend of the show, friend 14 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:22.079 of mine amedim in person. Earlier this year was a wonderful time. I 15 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.840 think I was at first. Yeah, I think so. I definitely think 16 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.799 so. Before we get into announcements, we're gonna cover a whole bunch of 17 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.799 stuff, Like, first of all, who is John Peters and why are 18 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:37.000 you here? Like why physical media? Why is that something you're into? 19 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.760 Physical media has always been part of my life as from a little boy, 20 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:47.599 Me and my uncle collected comics, so the world of collecting was always inhabited 21 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:49.840 in my head. You know, nice being stuff, nice, keeping stuff 22 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:57.040 organized. When you get older, start collecting more expensive comics, action figures, 23 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.840 and then you know, throughout movies VHS. I'd say by the time 24 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:07.159 I was like twelve, I think I was like complete on John Claude and 25 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:15.680 Damm, VHS's Bruce Lee that and then you know, then you start recording 26 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.439 stuff off of pay per view HBO, you start organizing it, and then 27 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.759 the DVD came around nine nine two thousand and just exploded from there. I 28 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:30.840 don't think I've ever stopped much to maybe my parents and ex wives and girlfriends. 29 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:37.080 Sugarin, Yeah, I've gone through that cycle a few times. I'm 30 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.360 curious, at what point did you realize, like, I have a collection. 31 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.520 It sounds like you may have sought out to do that from the very 32 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:45.960 beginning, but was there a point where you're like, Okay, damn, 33 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:47.599 I really got to take care of this stuff, because now it's important. 34 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:53.240 It was always It was always like that. I don't know if I should 35 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.680 tell the story, but tell it. I broke up. I broke up 36 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:01.479 with the fiance in my twenties and it was a real bad fight and she 37 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:07.639 got mad at me and tipped my collection over and I called my mom over 38 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:12.319 to help me move out, and she sprung her She tore her a c 39 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.080 L helping me move my physical media collection out at that night. So that's 40 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:20.800 how important the stuff always was to me, you know, because Uh, 41 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.360 I think we go through phases and what we collect, you know, we 42 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:29.599 go through like mainstream stuff and then we find some sort of subgenre niche and 43 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.360 stuff. But I mean, you know, it's just it's my thing. 44 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:38.000 Don't tip it over. Well, through through families, broken and intact, 45 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:42.719 physical media seems to always be there. I would agree with you. Tonight, 46 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.360 we're gonna make it all about family, ranging from mothers tearing the airs 47 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.520 their a c L to uh, we're gonna we're gonna be talking about a 48 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.080 Serbian film and how family plays into that. That was that was a terrible 49 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.840 segue, but uh, he even brought the goods wearing a T shirt of 50 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.639 a Serbian film love that we are, like I said, gonna be talking 51 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.960 about extreme horror and why it's a thing, why why it's something that we 52 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:10.319 watch, and what exactly is the point behind it. But first we got 53 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.120 to do announcements. But that's not even the special part. John being here 54 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.439 is the special part. So getting into your collection, You got any recent 55 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.519 pickups you'd like to share with the group. Yeah, if you follow Ryan's 56 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:29.240 Patreon you've probably seen a few of these. But House the Psychotic Wagman seems 57 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:33.480 to be thus set everyone's talking about and getting and one movie in and it's 58 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:39.079 it's pretty awesome. Which one did you watch? Identicate? Yeah, it's 59 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:44.480 the cover art, it's Elizabeth Taylor, it's Andy Warhol makes an appearance in 60 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:47.560 it. So it's a pretty wild movie to start off on. It's good. 61 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.759 First, speaking of Severn, I got a little bit more of their 62 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:59.199 October titles. Nice, My Grandpa's a Vampire aka Grandpire aka moon Rise. 63 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.319 It's pretty cute. Is it actually called Grandpire in one of the releases in 64 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:09.720 Canada? And Canada? I did not know that. Okay, that's fantastic 65 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:15.920 Grandpire. Al Lewis is a hoop during it. Yeah, it's kind of 66 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.680 a great film, a good family film, probably one of the better seven 67 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:30.680 kids to like introduce kids into being a gateway horde and then uh, all 68 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:35.800 right, I can't get that camera there. Okay, nice, It's one 69 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:42.160 of the I'm not a ghost movie fan. I don't know why ghosts are 70 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.720 staple of horror, and I'm just like, eh, it took me a 71 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:49.680 long time to get into the conjuring films after so many friends bade me you 72 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.800 had a watch. I'm just not into ghost stuff. I don't know why. 73 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:58.560 But Changeling real good, George Scott, it's one of the better ones, 74 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.399 for sure. Do you have that ball that Severn made for the Blu 75 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:06.120 ray release that I do? Yeah? Yeah it is. It is hefty, 76 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:11.439 and it's not something that they advertised. It is a legitimate like ball 77 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:16.600 ball. That thing is heavy, it is. That's a good question. 78 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.879 I don't think I've tried to bounce it, but yeah, I've got it 79 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.040 right now. I'm staring at it directly across from me in my top shelf. 80 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:30.680 It is being straddled by the knees of the anthropophatic anthropophagist plush eating his 81 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.519 guts. Yeah, that's a that's my Severn shelf right next to Uncle Jess. 82 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:40.920 Uh the tree topper right next to it, you have the tree chopper 83 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.759 of Jess Franco. I've got the Jess Franco treetopper, even though I don't 84 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:49.079 to argue about discord all the time, all the damn time. Yeah, 85 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:53.680 I mean, there's some Jess Franco I've liked, some that I haven't liked, 86 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:56.560 and either way, I respect the hell out of him. He is 87 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:01.839 prolific, like crazy. Uh yeah, Frank, I mean there's a few 88 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:06.839 that don't hit for me, but once you vibe them, it's like live 89 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:11.360 jazz music, you know, it just kind of flows and you're just into 90 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.720 it, especially when he was literally a composer on some of these that seven 91 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:20.600 put it out. Yeah, and then some al Adamson I didn't get the 92 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:25.959 box set, so that's kind of happy for this. Yeah. The compy 93 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.319 is the documentary. Yeah, that documentary is fantastic. Yeah, it's one 94 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:34.920 of the best ones they've ever done. H that's some that's some decent Pickups. 95 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:40.199 Seven has been picking it up lately the last month and a half or 96 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.959 so. It's it's pretty great. I think they had like a bottleneck with 97 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.560 production on some of their stuff, and then it's been an explosion of all 98 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:53.040 their titles at once. The fact that Steckler and the House of Psychotic Women 99 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:57.240 basically shipped at the same time is kind of crazy when you think about it. 100 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:05.000 Steckler set awesome. I've not checked in with everybody tonight. What's going 101 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.879 on, Ragnar, Glad you're here. Josephine got a promotion at the library. 102 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.000 Congratulations, gonna be teaching writing lessons for the adult special needs. That's 103 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:20.920 great. Anthony Shuita started the show for you. Congratulations video. This is 104 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.560 a very funny typo. I think wait, I need to pie first, 105 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.240 not pee, but pie video man, and I hope you enjoyed your pie. 106 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.080 Terry's here. What's going on? By Ferd to Hobbit, Hello, 107 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.759 Eric, Antoine, Sean, bren Dave, all my good friends, John, 108 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.879 Demarcico, Quiet, Rob, we missed you last week. Glad you're 109 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.879 back. Maximus, who constantly duels with John in the comments on the discord, 110 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.679 Mitchell, you're good. You weren't that late. I'm HAPPI you're here. 111 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:58.039 There's Cam just coming off of Fresh John argument recently. I'm sure Ragnar 112 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.679 brought up August Underground. That's a good one that we'll probably talk about a 113 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.440 little bit tonight. Let's see, not big on ghosts, although I will 114 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.600 always trust Scooby Doo. How can you not, Ken Carlson, what's going 115 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:15.200 on? All right? So we talked about recent pickups. What about some 116 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.399 major recent watches, because you've had a I don't even know the proper way 117 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.080 to say this, A A metric fuck ton of them in the last two 118 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.360 months is probably the best most technical way to mention how many you've watched. 119 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:31.360 Yeah, it just seemed like things were lining up where I could do such 120 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:37.519 a watch list. Right twenty seventeen, I had a personal issue and I 121 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.320 literally only watched like two or three movies that month, and I just vowed 122 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.879 vengeance ever since then. And so everyone does a Halloween watch list, you 123 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.960 know, one a day or I don't know whatever someone does. But I 124 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:56.480 decided to start mid September first. Today, what were you up to? 125 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.120 Eighty eighty seven or something like I'm looking right now, eighty six movies and 126 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:07.080 two TV shows. Geez, yeah, you're a little better off to myself. 127 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.480 That's pretty damn great. So, what what has been the last few 128 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:15.440 for this this week. Uh, I just watched a lot of stuff. 129 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:22.519 Uh, the Third Eye out of this the tiger gothic set from aerow Third 130 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.639 Eye was real cool. Has a very young Franco Neiro doing a Norman Bates 131 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:31.279 type thing. If you read my review in the Discord, it's actually the 132 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:37.519 movie that Joe to Moodel remade for Beyond the Darkness. Uh, just you 133 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:41.559 know, Joe demottoed it up. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. 134 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:50.559 Yeah. I've been tackling off Mexican horror. Yeah, that's been a highlight 135 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.879 to read for me this year. Yeah, seven or eight titles. They've 136 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.600 been really cool, you know. Uh lately with physical media, Uh, 137 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:05.039 Asian films have been the stuff that a lot of company has been going after. 138 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.240 And rightfully so, the stuff's amazing. I mean I grew up on 139 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.799 that my college years as well. But I just really wanted to put my 140 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:18.159 compass to something that I was kind of blind to this year, and I 141 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.279 did a lot of Mexican stuff. The Witch's Mirror was real crazy, spectacle, 142 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.840 Black Pid, Doctor m is great. Phantom of the Monastery one of 143 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.480 Mexico's I think second talking horror film. I could be wrong on that, 144 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:39.200 but that was real good, real good. If anybody wants to look for 145 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.240 any of these titles, I believe they were under the Casa Negra line, 146 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.600 right, And yes, Costain Neegra DVDs are still relatively in stock except for 147 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:52.440 one or two. You might have to pay forty to seventy dollars on eBay. 148 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:58.480 But also you can still get a Grindhouse and Diabolic for like ten bucks, 149 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.279 if that nice. Yeah, a lot of those were printed like more 150 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.840 than ten or twelve years ago, so yeah, yeah, they've gone a 151 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:09.639 very far down price. And I would not be surprised if Mexican horror started 152 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.559 making like one of the trends that started getting good HD prints in the next 153 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.799 couple of years. And it seems like Indicator kind of leading the push on 154 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.480 that a little bit. Yeah, they started off with the two of them 155 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.559 are real good. Yeah. If we could see something like Amanda Macabre get 156 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.840 one in there, then yeah, I could see some more getting some big 157 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.000 attention s artist wants to know anything other than horror on Casanegra's at all horror. 158 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.320 No, they just focus strictly on Mexican horror. I think they did 159 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:46.519 about eight titles now is about it eight titles Crazy Speaking to Monda Micabro, 160 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.200 Ragnar says, don't forget they have a Halloween sale this weekend. That is 161 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.799 correct. We will probably be bringing that up just a little while tonight. 162 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:58.440 Eric just got done with Bodies, Bodi's Bodies right before the stream. I'd 163 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.600 love to hear what you think, Eric, because that's one a lot of 164 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.080 people, uh just let pass by this summer, but I think it's one 165 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:09.759 of the best ones out there. So you're you're collecting, how do you 166 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.440 how do you determine what to purchase next other than what money limits to because 167 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.240 I know that there's a lot of interest that you have. Yeah, that's 168 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:20.320 the you know, the thorn in the side of us, Right, we're 169 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.399 pretty open minded. I think most people are open minded. If you're still 170 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.240 collective physical media in twenty twenty two, I mean if you aren't, I 171 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:33.840 mean you still have your choice of a lot of stuff, right, a 172 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.960 lot a lot of different labels, focus on a lot of different things. 173 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.840 You know, pick your poison because you'll be happy regardless. Uh. For 174 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:45.200 me, it's I don't know, it's like a I just spin the wheel 175 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.080 and it's like, yeah, get the newest one from errow get the newest 176 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:52.759 one, but I focus on Severn. I like euro Whore, always have 177 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:00.360 once I discovered it. My uh teens collag years just pop from it. 178 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.440 Was the lurd titles, there's the colors, there's the music. I didn't 179 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:07.600 know what was going on back then, but through time you learn more and 180 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.679 you watch them over and over again. So I've seven hits, my spot 181 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:18.399 a lot Mona Macabro just for blind buying oddities. Can't go wrong with any 182 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:22.799 of those. That is too too true. I completely agree. Mona Macabre 183 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.879 pretty much hits everything out of the park. Hard to argue with any of 184 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:33.320 their discs because they are either obscure or well known underground and usually fairly hard 185 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.639 to find, and now that they're putting them out, it's just, oh 186 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.759 my gosh, right for Discovery ready to go. But you mentioned euro Whore, 187 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:41.559 and I think it's time that I talk about my most recent watch, 188 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.440 which is pretty damn cool, and that's last night. I got to see 189 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.320 Suspiria on the big screen at a theater here in Kansas City. And the 190 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.480 thing that made it extra special, other than seeing a forty five year old 191 00:14:54.519 --> 00:15:01.600 film on the big screen. Claudio Siminetti brought Goblin along and the score live 192 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.279 along with it, And man, if that tour is coming anywhere near you 193 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.759 and it's not sold out yet, and I'm sure it will, because like 194 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.600 Kansas City did two nights and both nights sold out, So if it is, 195 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.320 everybody should be seeking that out. I believe they're playing most of the 196 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.840 US over the next like eight weeks. I think Kansas City was the first 197 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:24.279 stop on the tour, and it was it was kind of amazing. The 198 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.559 score played with the movie itself was good. Obviously it's in a little theater 199 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.559 room. Not little, of course, it's like a two hundred person theater, 200 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.000 but it's it was loud a little overwhelming, but with the film like 201 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.279 Suspiria, which is already very in your face colors wise, now it's in 202 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.440 your face colors wise and on the ears, so it was a little bit 203 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:48.799 of sense overload. But even then, it is such a better experience to 204 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.200 have it just going into your veins like that. And then I thought it 205 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.759 was decent. But then Goblin stayed after and played for another full hour. 206 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:02.440 They played, they played Phenomena, they play Tenebrae, they played a couple 207 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:07.679 originals that they've got. They've played a three track like medley from Donod the 208 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:11.679 Dead, which was great. They kind of killed it. It was so 209 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:17.639 great to see Claudia Siminetti still doing this in twenty twenty two. Yeah, 210 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.039 completely worth it. It was fairly cheap here, and from what I can 211 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:25.120 see everywhere else, it's not too bad around, like fifty bucks to get 212 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:29.320 into for the movie and the show. But then they're doing this crazy VIP 213 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.200 package too, which gets you a couple pieces of merch and then a meet 214 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.120 and greet with them, so you pay for the show and the VIP upgrade 215 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:40.679 is like another one hundred and twenty five bucks on top of that. I 216 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.879 personally couldn't see paying almost two hundred dollars just to see Goblin play with Suspiria 217 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.120 and get a VIP thing. But hey, if that's exactly your thing, 218 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:53.080 go go all for it. It's pretty dang cool. Yeah, it sounds 219 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:57.080 it was it a four K scan of Suspiria. I believe it was. 220 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.159 It looked like it. The only thing that I did not love is, 221 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:04.480 of course they played the English version rather than or they played the dub rather 222 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:14.480 than playing the Oge and subbed of course. Of course, anyways, like 223 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.400 I said, we are going to be talking about extreme horror tonight after our 224 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:23.119 announcements, but that means first we should probably get to these announcements, and 225 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.839 we got a whole lot of stuff to talk about first one up right after 226 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:32.839 our show last week, Like I was still I was still on camera talking 227 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:37.319 to Bob last week when this got announced December fifteenth, we are getting the 228 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.640 first four K from Imprint Films. It is The War of the World's coming 229 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:47.559 in a four K steel book with a lenticular hard case on it. And 230 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.799 this is kind of cool because it was the first Imprint title as well, 231 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:53.920 so now it's also their first four K. I completely saw this coming because 232 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.720 paramounts of obviously putting out in four K here in the States, War of 233 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.880 the Worlds, you into any of the old sci fi stuff too. Yeah, 234 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.759 I grew up on that my when I was younger, my parents, 235 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:07.160 you know, worked day jobs, so they sent me over to my grandparents 236 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.519 and manco would come over and be like, hey, let's watch War the 237 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.599 World's or this Island Earth or something. So yeah, this suff's mainstay of 238 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:22.359 my childhood. Yeah, there's a. This is obviously a great capstone film 239 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.680 for a lot of people, glad they're putting it out. Unfortunately, because 240 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.279 of some of the pockets of this hobby the moment I got announced, people 241 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:36.799 are complaining about the color thing that came up after the four K, that 242 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:41.839 Mars was bluish or whatever. So we'll see. I mean, on that 243 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.559 argument, I don't even know who's right. Supposedly the original cut was actually 244 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.319 kind of blue and not red, so if that's what they meant, like, 245 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.359 I'd I'd rather see the original intention. I think it's in our heads 246 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:55.720 because Mars is the red planet, right, But if it's the original tent, 247 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.319 they had the blue tent. Unfortunately, that's what it is, right, 248 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.759 Uh. Quiet, Rob is going to see Suspiria. Nice. Uh. 249 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.240 Terry wanted to bring up another cool element of Mexican horror of the early 250 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.119 era is their love of blending horror with other genres. And I believe, 251 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.119 uh gosh, which one is that? Was it the Phantom of the Monastery. 252 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.720 It's got like a romance story and weaved into it. I think, 253 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:23.400 yeah, yeah, it has a lot love try and going in it. 254 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.640 It's like a husband and wife and then it's like his brother. It's really 255 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:33.519 weird. Yeah yeah by Ford Hobbit. Anybody watching one hundred and one Best 256 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.720 Horror Scenes at eight episode series on Shutter, I don't know have you kept 257 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:41.839 up with any of that on Shuddar? I watched the first episode and then 258 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:47.359 I got sidetracked with my watch was I was pleasantly surprised. I think I'm 259 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.319 on episode like, I'm fairly cut up. I think I need to watch 260 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:55.400 last week still. But it is surprisingly deep cutty. Usually with series like 261 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.000 that, they're like, oh my gosh, the Exorcist is the scariest film 262 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:00.880 ever. Next up, when you you haven't heard of the Blair Witch Project, 263 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:03.640 and it's not like that. It is actual, like you did to 264 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.519 hear that, really really good deep cut films, which is nice to see. 265 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.960 I'm into that. Let's go to the next one, which is, 266 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:17.839 of course, one of the easy ways to stay up to date in this 267 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.759 hobby, and that's with sales. Barnes and Noble holding their fall Aero video 268 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:26.559 sale. Everything is half off of the MSRP right now in stores if you're 269 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.200 lucky enough to have some Aero titles in stores, and then online as well, 270 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:34.079 so you can get the brand new Gothic Fantastico set. I think that's 271 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:38.519 fifty bucks right now, which is a pretty great deal for a brand new 272 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:44.039 release. It's yeah, I can't pass it up. And then count Yorga 273 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.640 was down to like twenty eight or thirty two or something like that ridiculously. 274 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.440 I yeah, I got to look into that more. Speaking of looking into 275 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:56.960 this more, a lot of people have looked into David Cronberg over the years 276 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.720 and realized we are only missing one film on Blu ray, and now we 277 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:04.519 are finally getting his last feature length film. We are getting Spider on Blu 278 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:11.599 Ray from Sony Classic Pictures or Sony Pictures Classics in December. On the December 279 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.640 twelfth, we are getting a commentary on this from the man himself. We're 280 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.480 getting a few futurettes. It's not a boutique, but Sony always puts out 281 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.799 great stuff. I'm sure the scan will look good on this. Kroniberg, 282 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.240 where are you at with Kroniberg? Happy with him? Yeah? I think 283 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.839 he's top tier. Me and my uncle we're talking most of this year about 284 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:34.920 Kronoberg just in general. Since Crimes of the Future came out in May or 285 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:40.319 June, and yeah, it's real hard to list the top five Kronberg because 286 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.880 he probably has like a top ten that could easily be everyone's top five. 287 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.519 Before we go on, what do you think is his most underrated film? 288 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:59.119 Oh, jeez, shivers. I know that sounds stupid, but a lot 289 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:03.680 of people dismissed because it's one of his earliest ones. I'm gonna throw out 290 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.960 there, dead Ringers. I'm a big fan of Doppelganger and Twin films, 291 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.480 and Dead Ringers is fricking great. It's one that not a lot of people 292 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:17.079 talk about because it's not one of the crazy Cronabergs like the other ones. 293 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.680 But it's pretty damn good. Let's see cinema, dude. I miss Goblin 294 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.640 when they came around here a few years ago, but I do get to 295 00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:30.119 see Joe Bob this Saturday show and shopping mall. Very nice. That's pretty 296 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.039 awesome. I think that's in New York or somewhere around there in New Jersey, 297 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:40.559 New York area. That does sound right, Definitely sounds right. We 298 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:45.440 got some more information on the Amazon Collector's Edition that is coming exclusively to Amazon 299 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:51.079 for Terrifier two. This is getting a behind the scenes of Terrifier two, 300 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:56.519 an extended Boo Crew interview director commentary with Damian Leoni, and then there is 301 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:00.559 a fan art gallery that will be on there. Notably, this is a 302 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:06.519 bit different because the Terrifier two Blu ray that is coming in a steel book 303 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:11.039 to Walmart has different features on it, so it seems like they're either trying 304 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:12.880 to get people to go all in and double dip, or they're trying to 305 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:19.119 oversell the Amazon release as an exclusive collector's edition. Either way, there is 306 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.960 there's multiple releases something to look out for depending on what you're getting. But 307 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:29.440 then the third one that they haven't even technically announced yet, Terrifier two is 308 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.920 supposedly getting a best By exclusive four K release. Why I am into that 309 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.279 for sure, but it does suck if we're gonna get fragmented features as well. 310 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.000 Yeah, I hate when they do that. It hasn't been like that 311 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.200 in a while, but the first release I remember. Or you have to 312 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:52.799 pick which one you want or buy both. Yeah, certainly. The director 313 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.319 on this one did confirm that the four K is coming from best Buy in 314 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:02.359 a Reddit ama that he was doing and really went deep into the three different 315 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.920 versions coming out he had to highlight the Steel book at Walmart, Amazon Collector's 316 00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:08.240 Edition, and the four K, so they're all coming probably on the same 317 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:12.920 day, December seventh, but best by getting those exclusive four k's. It's 318 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.960 messed up for a lot of people too that either don't have a local best 319 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:21.759 Buy or don't trust shopping online at best Buy, which I completely get because 320 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.160 they don't care. They don't care. I went in the other week. 321 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.039 When I text you because I thought best By had the Body's Bodies Bodies four 322 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.000 K, You're like, yeah, it's there, it's exclusive. So I 323 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.039 go in there. I'm looking around where their media is and how to ask 324 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.759 someone. They looked at me blankly when to go ask someone? And there 325 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.400 it is. Well, why wasn't it out on a Tuesday, on release 326 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.039 day when people are gonna want it most? Come on, I know. 327 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:56.200 I Next up on our docket is a Discovery of which is the complete trilogy. 328 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.920 I know literally nothing about this. Do you know this one at all? 329 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.000 No? Cool? So the only reason I really posted this is because 330 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:07.880 I've heard about it quite a few times. I've heard it's got a pretty 331 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.400 decent fan base. But yeah, I guess this is a pretty good looking 332 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.799 release, got a whole trilogy on there you can pre order now. We 333 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:21.039 also got our next second side announcement for one that I am now dying to 334 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.200 see. I had never heard of this title, but we are getting Boiling 335 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:29.720 Point, which is from twenty twenty one, and supposedly this is done in 336 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:34.920 a set of either long cuts or something like that about cooking. So the 337 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:38.480 synopsis for this one says, on the busiest night of the year at one 338 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:44.200 of the hottest restaurants in London, a charismatic and commanding head chef balances on 339 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:49.039 a knife's edge as multiple personal and professional crises threatened to destroy everything he's worked 340 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.279 for. We're getting that on November twenty first, and this is again from 341 00:25:53.319 --> 00:26:00.319 Second Site, another loaded release, audio commentary times two new interviews with the 342 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.440 producer, new interviews with another producer, new interview with the writer, a 343 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:11.640 making of and then of course their classic Second Site. Really important title release 344 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:15.279 now is that they get on almost all these limited edition rigid slipcase with seventy 345 00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:22.000 page softcover book and then a whole bunch of collectors art cards. Talk about 346 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.480 real quick flickering waves, talked about fast Company from David Kronelberg. That's the 347 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:33.279 one nobody talks about because it's kind of a job for hire he did. 348 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:37.680 But it's solid little movie. You get some Chronoberg aspects. There's like a 349 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:44.759 sex scene where he's his character's poor and motor more oil down the girl and 350 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.440 it's just weird. But wasn't there a rumor too that he was supposed to 351 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.960 remake that or something I haven't heard. That'd be interesting? Huh interesting? 352 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:57.400 Spaghetti's here? What's going on? Rabbit? Rabbit is a good one too, 353 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.319 And then speaking of Boiling Point by fur to Hobbit, Boiling Point is 354 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:07.960 Gordon Ramsey on steroids, which means I absolutely have to watch it now. 355 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:15.240 Absolutely. Next up, one of the more exciting announcements for the week eighty 356 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.839 eight films in the US is putting out the In the Line of Duty one 357 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.799 through four box set with Michelle Yo, Cynthia Kahn, Cynthia Rothrock, and 358 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:30.039 Donnie Yen. This is oh. I thought we did have a solid release 359 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.920 date. I guess not, just coming soon. However, artwork looks incredible 360 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.799 on this all from the same artist. Looks really great, really great. 361 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.279 Are you into I know you got some eighty eight Films. Are you Are 362 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.039 you collecting a lot of their martial arts stuff too? Oh yeah, I 363 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.200 think I'm complete on their US side. Oh nice, very nice. Have 364 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.160 a good night, Josephing. Sister Agatha is back. What's going on? 365 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:57.079 Wow? By fur to Hobbit. Boiling Point was filmed five times. They 366 00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:03.400 used the second filming for the theatrical release. What the hell? That's amazing? 367 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.640 So is it one long take? I thought it was multiple long takes. 368 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:12.000 That's crazy either way. In the Line of Duty one through four For 369 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:17.920 those that don't know, this is like the the loosely connected series of films 370 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.640 primarily with Michelle Yeoh and ones that people have wanted for quite a long time. 371 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.039 At least some of these, and I think most of them are getting 372 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:30.440 a release from Eureka in the UK, and eighty eight Films is getting them 373 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.519 in the US, but Eureka is not putting them out in a box set, 374 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.200 so they have to scoop them up separately if you want to go down 375 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:44.680 that route. Next up, we got another box set coming on December thirteenth 376 00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.119 from Cinema Guild, which is not a company. We talk about a whole 377 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:53.079 lot on here. Three films by Hank Seng Sue with Nobody's daughter Haiwan are 378 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.279 soon he and OKI's movie. Those are from twenty thirteen, twenty thirteen, 379 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.839 and twenty ten. This release looks great. Honk Sing Sue always good. 380 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.119 Have you seen any of the Honksng Sue films at all? I have not. 381 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.359 They're pretty stylish. They are ones that are a little slow for some 382 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:15.920 people, but he is an incredible director. A lot of his stuff. 383 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.480 If you watch it back to back, especially, it starts to feel a 384 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.519 little seemy, but definitely recommended. Honksanng Sue really good stuff. I'm curious 385 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:29.359 about this one. I will I will wait and wait and look at some 386 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.200 reviews. Cinema Guild, I don't know a whole lot about them, just 387 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.680 because they don't put out as much as they used to. But somebody who 388 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:41.160 seems to be putting out everything at the moment Keena Loeber putting out The Big 389 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.119 Easy from nineteen eighty six, starring Dennis Quaid and Ellen Barkin. This is 390 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.000 just another one of their coming soon titles. So we don't know when this 391 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.359 is getting a brand new HD master, and we'll probably see some features on 392 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.599 this when it gets a solid release date. This will probably come out somewhere 393 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:02.359 around May ish if I had to guess. But yeah, Dennis Quaid always 394 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.160 loved Dennis Quaid. Let's see by Ferd Hobbit says, Honk sings Sue are 395 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.920 well done movies never seen a bad one. I would agree with that completely. 396 00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.880 Next up, because this always happens, of course, Black Adam, 397 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.839 the DC film is getting a Best Buy exclusive for K release. And I 398 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.559 believe, now that I've posted this and said more details TBA, I believe 399 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:29.160 you can actually pre order this now. You went and saw Black Adam over 400 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.319 this last week, right, I did. What'd you think of it? 401 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.720 Well, me and my kids really liked it. Uh, it's kind of 402 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.960 the same old, same old superhero stuff. But they did a kind of 403 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:45.519 a neat juxtaposition of like one person's hero might be another person's villain. And 404 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:51.440 they told the line because Black Adam is a villain from the comics, especially 405 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:56.880 for Superman and Shazam, and they told a line, Uh, I'm happy 406 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.119 to see it. The fans like it, which is more important, and 407 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.359 critics it's doing well. They kind of popped it up like it's a maybe 408 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.519 a fresh beginning for the DC Cinematic universe, so eager to see what's next. 409 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.880 I I don't know if I've said this on the channel yet. I'm 410 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:22.880 still very green with the DC universe. I think I've seen ooh maybe two 411 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.960 of the films, and most of that is just by choice. They for 412 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.000 some reason, they just don't shout out to me needing to see them. 413 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.640 Oh wait, I guess if you count Robert Pattinson's Batman, I think that 414 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:38.680 would be three. Yeah, but I'm curious on this one. The Rock 415 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.440 he always grates on me because he always just plays the Rock. Is he 416 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.759 a very different feeling person on this one or is it just same old, 417 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:52.880 same old? I mean yes and no. I mean I think he's well 418 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.119 researched on Black Adam in the comics, and you get that sense of love 419 00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:02.839 that he had for the character he's been working on for fifteen years. Jesus, 420 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.400 But I think the Rock of twenty twenty two is more app for the 421 00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:13.079 character than the Rock fifteen years ago. Yeah, I would agree with that 422 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.640 even without seeing it. Yeah, that makes sense. I love that The 423 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:20.440 first comment about DC is Dead Sea Life. The DC films are generally not 424 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:28.000 good, so then we'll move right along to a Keeno Lober four K release 425 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.960 of Three Days of the Condor. This is one that I believe when they 426 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.640 announced a film just a couple of weeks ago on four K that I said, 427 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.400 watch, we're probably gonna be seeing Three Days of the Condor on four 428 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.759 K here soon from them. And it's no surprise here it is. This 429 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.880 one is coming soon with no physical release date yet. This is getting a 430 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.000 brand new Dolby vision Master thankfully new four K scan of the OCN And for 431 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.000 those that don't know, it's the Robert Redford, Fade Dunaway and Max von 432 00:32:54.319 --> 00:33:00.279 Seedau film. I'm probably gonna get this. This is one that I pretty 433 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.519 much gotta have. Kena Loorber four Ks, in my opinion, have generally 434 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.759 been just kind of hitting it out of the park. They have been let's 435 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.279 see. Sardis loves this one. Spaghetti says it's coming out in three days. 436 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:17.599 That would be a miracle. That's a funny joke though. Next up, 437 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:23.519 I put out a couple videos on the Scored to Death documentary and it 438 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.960 is not doing real well. I believe it ends this weekend and for anybody 439 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.279 it has not checked, it out. It is a documentary by the guy 440 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:37.599 here in the picture playing guitar that is interviewing horror composers and some of the 441 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.279 stuff for this is incredible. He's written two books on the subject, you 442 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.880 can see them in the picture here. But Scored to Death is something that 443 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.359 I think a lot of people would really really appreciate. But it seems like 444 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:53.279 people are just not gravitating towards this fundraiser. If you haven't yet, please 445 00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:55.960 go watch the interview. Check out the link. I think it ends on 446 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.920 November first, so you only got four or five days left. I would 447 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.400 love to see more people back this project because it sounds incredible. Moving right 448 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:12.320 along, Oscilloscope Labs gave us an update on a bunch of things. Do 449 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.519 you have anything from Oscilloscope yet? No? I don't. I've been meaning 450 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.280 to. Maybe this winner I'll get their Circle of Trust not a lot of 451 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.000 their stuff seems to jump out at you as far as genre wise, I 452 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.559 would think I did see Short Bus. I know they recently put that out, 453 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.760 but I've seen it theatrically back when it came out ten years ago or 454 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.639 something nice. So some things that they're changing for Circle of Trust members you 455 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.320 will notice a change in the packaging. They're moving to a different manufacturer because 456 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.960 they recently had some delays. It is going to be a six page standard 457 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.599 gatefold instead of four, which means they're going to have more room for art 458 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.400 and essays and some other possible extras, and it will actually have a plastic 459 00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.199 disc ray rather than the I don't even know what to call it pocket, 460 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.360 a paper pocket that they've been using, which I'm gonna be honest, I 461 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.320 kind of hated, so I'm glad that they're getting away from that. The 462 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.119 next releases that are coming out in December from them are The Velvet Queen and 463 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.199 The Tale of King Crab. And then also because their packaging is changing and 464 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.320 it's been so long that they've been using the same price of their Circle of 465 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.719 Trust was at one hundred dollars. It is now going up to one hundred 466 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.320 and forty for Blu rays, and it'll be one hundred and twenty for DVDs, 467 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:34.119 which in my opinion, is still a great price for ten ten brand 468 00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.880 new releases. That includes all of the shipping every single time, no matter 469 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.880 how many times that they ship to you, and it is going to be 470 00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.760 a little bit of an increase, but it is still more than fifty percent 471 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.519 off all of the discs. If you want to lock in the one hundred 472 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.480 dollars price before, you got to do it before November eighteenth. That is 473 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.519 the biggest thing. If you want to spend one hundred dollars there and get 474 00:35:54.519 --> 00:36:00.039 a Blue Rays subscription for the next ten releases, do it before November eighteenth. 475 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:06.960 Then another sale All of Films is hosting, not all of Films is 476 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.559 hosting. All of Films can't host anything because they're basically dead. Deep Discount 477 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.079 is hosting an all the film's sale. When you go to this link here, 478 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.760 you will look for the all of Film's logo and any title with that 479 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:22.159 is buy one, get one free, not buy one get one half off. 480 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.119 But when it's twenty two dollars, each of those is gonna be eleven 481 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:29.039 bucks, and that's a pretty damn good deal. Any all of films on 482 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:30.800 your want list at the moment, or anything that you picked up, did 483 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.559 you check this out? No? I haven't checked the cell out. Only 484 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:38.199 all of films I have is their Monster Squad disc. It's a good movie. 485 00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:43.679 Yeah, it's just no extra ASKT sucks, But yeah. A lot 486 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.679 of their films they didn't even get subtitles, which kind of irked me. 487 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.079 I'm a big, big subtitle fan, and to not have anything on there, 488 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.960 it starts to get really grating. Unfortunately, they do have some good, 489 00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.159 nice releases though, like Bucket of Blood, the old Dick Miller movie 490 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.840 is really great. That's loaded, I believe too. It is. Yeah, 491 00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:10.079 it's one of the very few trying to see. So let's oh. 492 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.360 They also had a really good release of Bound. I don't think that is 493 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.199 on sale though. This one has a whole bunch of features on it as 494 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:22.360 well, now out of print. I believe their release of Dirty Work is 495 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.840 the only one out there on blue I believe. And then another big one, 496 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:31.159 All of Signature put out the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers. All 497 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.760 of these Olive Signature ones got really good releases, and then just the regular 498 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:37.239 all of films they said, eh, screw it, they don't even need 499 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:42.920 subtitles. They were like a I'd say, like a budget Blu ray but 500 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:47.440 a little bit higher quality. Yeah it's yeah. And the big thing is 501 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.920 they went for the higher I won't say higher quality titles, but they went 502 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:57.159 for the more mainstream titles and so in the process licensing probably cost them a 503 00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.960 little more, but you would think if you're gonna be able to sell them 504 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.320 or due to that, maybe you can pony out for some special feature. 505 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:06.719 I don't know, like you know, Masa Squad. They couldn't pour it 506 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:13.679 over the Lionsgate. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. We're gonna 507 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.519 be talking about all the films a little while because it seems like all the 508 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.400 films is no more and somebody that worked at all the films may have started 509 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:25.559 a new company called Sandpiper Films and they are putting out eight different releases in 510 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.000 December. We're gonna talk about those at the tail end of the show. 511 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:36.199 Let's see what is next here. We got a whole bunch of stuff coming 512 00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.960 from Disco Tech. I know a little bit about one or two of these, 513 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.519 but very little overall. First, we're getting Common Writer Black. This 514 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.000 is the eighth series and it's coming on Blu Ray. It's gonna be across 515 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.119 five different discs in Japanese with English subs, and for those that like this 516 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:57.239 sort of thing, this was a pretty huge announcement. Next up, we're 517 00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.760 getting another This is a feature based on the same novel as the hit anime. 518 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.000 I don't know anything about this one Japanese with English subs as well, 519 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.960 coming in Winner of twenty twenty three. Then this is the one that I 520 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.960 know about, so Suicide Club. Have you seen Suicide Club before? I 521 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.639 believe like twenty some years ago or something. It's been a while, it's 522 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.920 kind of gone from my memory, but this will probably be picked up. 523 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:28.920 So this is one that got announced recently as coming from Third Window Films, 524 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.960 but the director kind of had some allegations come out about him this year Sea 525 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.159 on Sono, and it seems like when I talked to Adam earlier this year 526 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:42.159 at least that their release might be at least on hold because people were not 527 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.280 willing to help put in features and stuff like that. But in the meantime 528 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.480 we get something coming from Disco Tech. This is coming in Winner of twenty 529 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:54.000 twenty three as well. And this is a pretty pretty great movie. It's 530 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:59.599 gonna be remastered in house at Disco Tech from the original elements, color correction 531 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.320 by David Miranda, which is going to be approved by the director himself in 532 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.239 Japanese with English subs, and there are gonna be other extras and features on 533 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.039 it, So this will probably be the best way to get this film for 534 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.239 the foreseeable future. Curious if Third Window Films will follow through on theirs. 535 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.000 We're also getting Go Go thirteen. Now, this has had a couple different 536 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.679 films. I think this is a remake, and then there was a remake 537 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.800 of the remake. This is from nineteen seventy three, Go ahead, Yeah, 538 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.360 something like that. Yeah. I think there's been three titles of it. 539 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:37.519 Now. This one is the Ken Takakura film and this is the first 540 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:44.280 official English language home video release ever and the first time on Blu Ray ever. 541 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.280 This is going to be in English with in Japanese with English subs, 542 00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.760 with other extras and features. Again coming a winner of twenty twenty three. 543 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:58.960 Yeah, Discotheque is killing it. I mean they could be talking about early 544 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.039 twenty two. I guess like February. That's that's winter and it's winter twenty 545 00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:08.800 twenty three. Uh. Then we're getting Ultimate Muscle. The Fox Box Saturday 546 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:15.519 Morning favorite show is coming to sd Blu Ray all seventy seven episodes in English 547 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.480 with other extras and features. Did you ever watch Ultimate Muscle? Me? 548 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.440 Neither? Next up, Sonic X you've asked for it, You've been patient, 549 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.000 and now Disco Tech delivers seventy eight episodes on sd blu ray in Japanese 550 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:35.320 with English subs, and this is gonna get a huge restoration that sounds like 551 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:40.199 newly revised subs and everything. Yeah, this seems like a great release. 552 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.000 Disco Tech really does a lot for animation and I'm glad that they're still doing 553 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.280 stuff like this. Thankfully. That's it from Disco Tech. We got a 554 00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.920 little hint from an article this week that on November twenty fourth, A twenty 555 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.440 four is releasing a special edition of The Green Night. This is saying that 556 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.679 we'll also include a short film that came from the same director, David Lowry. 557 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.840 The Oakthorn and the Old Rose of Love will loosely tie into the Green 558 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.559 Knight story, and the twenty minute short film centers around two entities that exchange 559 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:17.360 their knowledge in unconventional ways. And the crazy thing in that article they bring 560 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.000 up that that short was just filmed this year, which is super interesting. 561 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.320 This will most likely be a four K release Green Knight. Did you go 562 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.280 see this one or have you seen it? Missed it in theaters? And 563 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.079 I just blind bought the Blu Ray. Yeah, it's pretty bad ass. 564 00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.079 I'm probably gonna be a Christmas movie. I watched this Christmas. I don't 565 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.360 know why. It just feels like a Christmas movie. It does feel like 566 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.639 a Christmas movie, and it's it's one that I recommend. And if you 567 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.639 have never checked out, not only if you've never checked out the film, 568 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.079 but if you've never checked out the short. It's not that short, but 569 00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.800 the story that precedes this film, which a lot of people read in high 570 00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.920 school. It gives you this huge pre for this film that you just may 571 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.440 not be able to get unless you've read it first, because a lot of 572 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.800 it seems metaphorical when you're watching the film, but the story really lays it 573 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:15.000 out perfectly. And it's just a great, great adaptation, so good, 574 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.400 really well made, and I can't wait to see what they do because the 575 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:28.280 artwork for this could be incredible. Next up, Thrillers from the Vault is 576 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.000 coming from Mill Creek, A LA a lot of those old We're gonna put 577 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.639 as many DVDs as we can in this box set for you, and this 578 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.280 is getting the Black Room, The Man they could, the Man they could 579 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:43.280 not hang. Before I Hang The Man with Nine Lives, The Devil Commands, 580 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.679 The Boogeyman Will Get You, The Return of the Vampire, and five. 581 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.159 All eight films. These are coming in one package on December thirteenth, 582 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.480 and it looks to be trending right around forty to forty five dollars ish, 583 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.079 which seems decent for eight films on Blu Ray. Are some extra features, 584 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.679 like some commentaries on these two. Yeah, it's I believe they were able 585 00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.320 to port over some things from the previous releases. And then they're also doing 586 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.599 a sci fi version. This is sci Fi from the Vault with four films 587 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.440 in it. We're getting Creature with the Adam Brain. It looks like I 588 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:20.639 had a typo there, so that's good that I can see it on the 589 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.559 cover. Creature with the Adam Brain. It Came from Beneath the Sea, 590 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:27.960 twenty Million Miles to Earth, and The thirty foot Bride of Candy Rock. 591 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.880 This one, on the other hand, is trending to be about eighteen dollars 592 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:36.519 on Amazon right now, which is pretty damn great for these four films. 593 00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.400 Yeah, pack like this. It came from Beneath the Sea was me my 594 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:45.800 uncle's favorite growing up. Nice and that movie's been released a lot of times, 595 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.480 but this is this is good to solid release. Yeah. Yeah, 596 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.639 it's a really cool film. Stop motion animation is pretty awesome in it with 597 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.320 the gigantic octopus. Miamuncle, try to recreate it. We're big into stop 598 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:05.519 motion animation and created it was real good at making those modes and stuff. 599 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.840 It looks just like the movie. We didn't do much with it, but 600 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:15.199 it's that movie holds a special place in my heart. That's awesome? Is 601 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.519 it? I don't know if it's just you and I, but it feels 602 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:23.280 like almost everybody that is in this hobby or adjacent to it at least try 603 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:29.480 to do something in the like let's make a short film set a long time 604 00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:34.280 ago. And I I'm just glad that it wasn't just me because one of 605 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.559 the big ones I never got into stop motion, but we did a film 606 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.920 that was like the Oh, what is the movie that came out from Draft 607 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.559 House Films. I think it's got the I Declare War is what it was 608 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:52.719 called. I believe a whole bunch of kids pretending to play like army in 609 00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.559 the middle of the forest basically, but they're using pretend weapons. But the 610 00:45:55.559 --> 00:46:00.000 way it's filmed is make it looks like they have real weapons. Yeah, 611 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.679 imagination, And it was great, so well done, really really fun movie. 612 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.320 We did the same thing but instead of you see real weapons, we 613 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.320 just had them be imaginary but you could just hear them. So we use 614 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.719 all the real sound effects and it it ended up being pretty cool. I 615 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.719 played like a mob boss in our little short that we got and there's even 616 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.800 a scene with me in a bathtub in a short film and it's awkward. 617 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.719 Speaking of stop motion, me and my uncle made a short film when I 618 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.400 was probably nine or ten called John the Dragon Killer and had a stop motion 619 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:36.920 dragon that attacked me and my uncle, who was playing my dad on a 620 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.679 fishing trip. And yeah, the dragon picked them up and was going like 621 00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.880 this, and I brought out a gun and shot lasers and disintegrated them and 622 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:50.360 stuff. Yeah. The cool thing about was about a year later after we 623 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.400 finished it, we met Ray Harry Housen and we gave it to him to 624 00:46:53.440 --> 00:47:00.039 watch. Awesome. And then when I was in college, I fixed it 625 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.159 because we are editing tape on tape, so there was like little beeps in 626 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:09.800 between the edit. So I in college took it out and put it in 627 00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:13.719 black and white and put it on DVD and kind of gave it back to 628 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.280 my uncle that way. Awesome. That's a cool gesture. That's really cool. 629 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.719 Dead Sea Life says, isn't the Adam Brain in the Cold War set? 630 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:27.280 Yes? It is the Cold War set that Aero put out, and 631 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.719 Spaghetti says, some cool Harry Housen in there. Yeah, definitely a good 632 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:37.000 set. Next up, January twenty fourth, Mill Creek is giving us London 633 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.280 from two thousand and six with Chris Evans and Jason Statham and Jessica Biel. 634 00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:45.320 I've never seen this one. Have you seen this one? I've never even 635 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:52.880 heard of it. Early early film from Statham is London Films or something had 636 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.280 I mean two thousand and six. That's that's pretty early for him. And 637 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.800 I was following Jessica Biel by then, I mean Texas shame Wace. I've 638 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:06.559 already got everybody in love with her. So next up we're getting Warning Shot 639 00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.599 from Keno Lorber. This is from nineteen sixty eight with David Jansen. This 640 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:15.920 gets a new audio commentary with Steve Mitchell and Howard Berger. This is one 641 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.639 that I'm probably gonna be picking up looks good to me. This one's pretty 642 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:24.159 cool. We're finally getting a decent four K steel book of the new Candyman 643 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:30.320 film. This starts the pre order tomorrow nine am British time. This is 644 00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.519 coming out December twenty sixth. You can get it on zavv and I don't 645 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.960 think there's any new exclusive features or anything like that, but this looks like 646 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.199 a pretty nice steel book. For all steel book collectors out there, I 647 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.480 don't think you're much of a steel a collector though, right I have some. 648 00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:47.599 I've kind of got sick of them because they're a little bit thicker in 649 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.159 my shelf. Space is dying, so I'm trying to save space. But 650 00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.079 that's real cool. The arts real cool. Yeah. I loved what they 651 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.360 did with the Uh they did that whole trailer that looks like construction paper for 652 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:08.480 this film and it was so well done. And then I think over the 653 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:12.840 the credits at the end, I think they showed a little bit of it, 654 00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.679 but god, yeah, it's so good. I was surprised they didn't 655 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:16.719 do more with the art on that. And I'm glad that it's coming out 656 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:21.280 here because this looks really nice. Uh yeah, I kind of wish this 657 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:22.960 was coming to the US, and who knows, it could just because it's 658 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.599 going to Zavvy, it could come out at Best Buy or something, so 659 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:32.480 who knows. Next up, Ronan Flicks is getting an interesting title for them. 660 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.760 They're getting a Jetly double feature, a Fist of Legend and tai Chi 661 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.559 Master. These are from nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety three. Tai Chi 662 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:46.199 Master also features Michelle Yo. I love Ronan Flicks. They do some really 663 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:52.480 great work when they're putting stuff out. This is gonna be their like eighth 664 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.679 or ninth release, I think, very minimal this year. Yeah, they've 665 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.360 not done a whole lot, although they're they're ones that they were putting out 666 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:05.079 Becky and then The Goodbye Man or whatever that the Nightmare Man. That one. 667 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.800 I believe you started shipping for a lot of people. So if you 668 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:09.840 were into it, it's a good time to check them out because they're in 669 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.119 stock and shipping now. These are really good movies. Dragon Dynasty had them, 670 00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:17.280 and they're actually using the Dragon Dynasty art on these, which is really 671 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.079 interesting. Yeah, and there is no and I noticed this. I don't 672 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:25.599 know if it's just a mock up or something. There's no ronan Flix logo 673 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.239 here on the side of this, so I quit yeah to put out for 674 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:36.199 a press release, and it looked like that some other site posted the news 675 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.519 of this before ronan Flix did, so I wonder if that's why they posted 676 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:45.119 the artwork. Maybe Next up we got some Indicator announcements. Man, we 677 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:50.280 are already on today. I feel like this is flying. By January sixteenth, 678 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.840 we are getting all of these titles, I believe, and these are 679 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.599 all UK only, no US titles coming from Indicator in January. This first 680 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.599 one is Freud and it sounds pretty great. The film charts Freud's journey from 681 00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:08.679 graduating medical school to his early investigations into a hysteria, hypnosis and the analysis 682 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:14.280 of dreams, and onto his formulation of the radical concepts which would underpin his 683 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:19.360 psychoanalytic theory, scandalize the medical world, and change the face of the twentieth 684 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.800 century. I've never seen this, but it sounds great. It's goot Montgomery 685 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:30.000 cliff in it. Let's see video managed. Suicide Club is a movie I 686 00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.079 wanted for so long, saw back in the days on festival screening, but 687 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.199 never got a hold of it after Well, now you'll have your chance. 688 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.920 Next up from Indicator is the night of the following day. I believe this 689 00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:45.079 also had a keynote release, so some people may already have this one. 690 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.039 This is from nineteen sixty nine and it's got Marlon Brando. Little known actor 691 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:53.559 named Marlon Brando. Some people have heard of him. Next up, Death 692 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:58.719 of a Gunfighter. This is from sixty nine as well, and it says 693 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.800 in Cottonwood Springs, Marshall Frank Patch kills a man in self defense. The 694 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.719 town council, wishing to move away from frontier justice and into the modern world, 695 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.199 decide that it's time for Patch to retire. Patch refuses, but with 696 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.000 the dead man's son swearing revenge and the council refusing to take no for an 697 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.679 answer, he senses his time might be up. And it sounds great. 698 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.639 Richard Widmark always good at what he does. This one also has Lena Horne. 699 00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:27.280 And you've gotten at least a handful of Indicator stuff this year, right, 700 00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.559 Yeah, yeah, mostly the US, because you know, chastize me 701 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.239 all you want. I'm not region free, but so I'm a little disappointed 702 00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.280 about the really Well, first off, let's let's litigate this because We've talked 703 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:42.119 about this so many times of the discord. Why are you not regent free 704 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.840 yet? Lazy? It's got to be more than that. Come on, 705 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.559 it really is, and a lot of it it's like, well, someone 706 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:53.480 in Region a's gonna pick it up. It's not always true though, No 707 00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:58.639 it isn't. I know. I mean, how nice is that Donald the 708 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.360 dead set that you. Thankfully it's in four K so you can get the 709 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:08.320 pretty good except for the bonus disc. Yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful 710 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:14.039 release and there's a lot, thankfully, But I will say it's twenty twenty 711 00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.199 two. You should really not be I know that release is pretty cool. 712 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.239 I could see pick that up from me and my dad or something nice. 713 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.960 They might be giants. This is the last Indicator announcement for the month. 714 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.280 This is coming on January sixteenth as well. This is from seventy two. 715 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:37.599 Grief stricken widower Justin Playfair begins to believe he is Sherlock Holmes. Briefly institutionalized, 716 00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.000 he teams up with his doctor coincidentally named Watson because of course, and 717 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:45.519 together they follow a string of clues across New York City as they search for 718 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.280 their elusive arch enemy Moriarty. This movie sounds incredible. I don't know how. 719 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.639 I've never seen this. It's got George C. Scott. Have you 720 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.519 ever happened to see this one? No, the'se When you posted them, 721 00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.960 I haven't seen them, but I was like, damn it, they're UKO 722 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:06.639 Yeah, UK only. And I believe this is a Sony title, which 723 00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:12.039 means it'll be region locked because of course, we also got some other region 724 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.599 B announcements today. We got Runman Run coming from Eureka on January twenty third. 725 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:22.519 This is the third Sergio Salima film and it is or sorry, third 726 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.000 and final Western film. And for those that don't know, this has Thomas 727 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:30.760 Million from The Big Gun Down and Django Kill If You Live Shoot, and 728 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.239 he is reprising his role as the crafty knife thrower from Salima's earlier film The 729 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.800 Big Gun Down. Pretty damn cool, which means it's basically a sequel. 730 00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:42.280 You got to check it out. I can't wait to see this one. 731 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.039 The Big Gun Down is a lot of fun. Was this not on a 732 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.880 Blue Underground? Uh? Did they put this out? Maybe on DVD? 733 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.360 Yeah, that's what I was thinking because it sounded familiar when he posted it. 734 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:02.159 Let me check run mat. Whoops, that's a very different movie. 735 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:06.320 I use swipe on my phone and when I did that, it said rub 736 00:55:06.440 --> 00:55:13.119 Man and I got very different results. No, yeah, is this appears 737 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:17.039 to be the first Blu Ray release, so yeah, that's cool. And 738 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.679 then, speaking of what we talked about just a little while ago, Michelle 739 00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.639 Yo in Royal Warriors coming from Eureka as well. This is following on the 740 00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:30.480 success of Yes, Madam, Michelle Yo returned straight away to the girls with 741 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:35.960 Guns genre with this fast paced eighties Hong Kong action classic. Again, you 742 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.280 pretty much got to choose eighty eight Films or Eureka on some of these titles, 743 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:43.079 but they're they're meant to be based on where you live, so the 744 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.599 easiest thing is probably just to go with your region for the most part. 745 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:52.239 Let's see Terry says have known about the movie they might be Giants because the 746 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.000 band, but never got around to watching it. I will say I love 747 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:59.239 the band, they might be giants. I have followed them for such a 748 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:06.920 long time. They are just a remarkable talent. Yeah, No Mercy. 749 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.760 No Mercy is coming from Kena Lober on January seventeenth. This is the Richard 750 00:56:10.840 --> 00:56:15.559 Gear and Kim Basinger film. We get a new interview with actor Jerown Crab 751 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:21.440 on this and then a trailer. That's it. But this is one that 752 00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.800 I've heard great things about and just for never got around to for some reason, 753 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.599 So I'm probably gonna be checking out this one for sure. Keno does 754 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.840 great stuff, always always. We talked about Sandpiper a little while ago, 755 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.280 and now it's time to really dive into them, So we're getting eight new 756 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:44.679 titles from them on December thirteenth. The first is The Bridge at Remagen. 757 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.599 I'm gonna assume that's how you say it. The second is Wild Bill with 758 00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:53.920 Jeff Bridges and Ellen Barkin. Third is The Hospital with George C. Scott. 759 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:59.679 The fourth is Comes a Horseman with James conn and Jane Fonda and Jason 760 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:04.920 Robears. These are you can't order them yet, can't pre order them anywhere 761 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:07.400 as far as I can tell. Then we got four more here, Robert 762 00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:15.800 Duval's Assassination Tango The Hawaiians with Charlton Heston Mole Flanders with Robin Wright, Morgan 763 00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:20.599 Freeman, and Stockard Channing. I've never heard of this film, but that 764 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:27.880 cast sounds crazy. Robin Wright Morgan Freeman and Stocker Channing in the same film, 765 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:32.760 all right, and then Holiday Heart with ving Rams and maybe one of 766 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.360 the worst covers I've seen in a couple of years. I don't know how 767 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:43.079 photoshopped this is, or if it's just a really bad picture. Somebody did 768 00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:52.599 ving Rams wrong here, because that looks that looks pretty bad. Now I 769 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.480 zoomed in and I can't zoom out. Okay, here we go either way. 770 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.800 Like I said, Sandpiper Pictures, it appears as if this is the 771 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:06.360 next all of films, so I would I would imagine they're gonna be very 772 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:10.599 similar. Most of these releases are coming out around fifteen sixteen dollars. We 773 00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:14.599 don't know if there's gonna be sales on these anywhere. They're not tied to 774 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:17.559 any sort of retail chain that we know of. That this might be on 775 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.840 sale on Amazon or something perhaps Target in the buy two, get one sale. 776 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.679 But uh yeah, let me get away from this art so I don't 777 00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:31.760 have to stare at that giant forehead anymore. Yeah, So some people have 778 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:37.400 really really dove into this. It appears that the business was registered in a 779 00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.440 place that was close to where all of films had registered theirs, and then 780 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.880 beyond that, the font used on the back of this these releases is the 781 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.960 exact same font as all of films. So there's some evidence lining up to 782 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.920 makes it appear as if it is all of films gone done, that's in 783 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.480 the past, and now they are Sandpiper. What they seem to be so 784 00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.239 far is picking up a lot of Twilight Time releases and giving them new life 785 00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:07.239 and in print. Unfortunately, it appears as if most of them are going 786 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:12.800 to be bare bones discs. Again, some of them have a feature or 787 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.360 two, but I'm willing to bet that we're going to be stuck with the 788 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:22.199 same sort of all the film's lacking presentation. We'll say, yeah, yeah, 789 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:27.679 I heard this, son. I listened to the basemk video podcast that 790 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:32.199 Justin Declue hosts, and they were mentioning Sam Piper and how they were kind 791 00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:38.800 of borne on the ashes or maybe reworked out of Olive. But I think 792 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.719 they said the pricing is a little bit higher than they expected for bare bones. 793 00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:50.000 But that's also Canada versus our dollars, so we'll see that's true. 794 00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:54.639 That's true. Just a couple left, or maybe just this one, but 795 00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:59.679 we're ending on a pretty high note. Keino on January twenty fourth is releasing 796 01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:05.519 Death Wish on four K UHD. This is a picture of the slipcover and 797 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.679 then they're gonna have reversible art, and this is the reversible art on the 798 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:14.920 inside. This is getting a multidisc set. It's got Disc one four K 799 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:20.159 brand new twenty twenty two HDR Dolby Vision Master from a four K scan of 800 01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:24.119 the OCN, new audio commentary from Paul Talbot, because of course, the 801 01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:29.639 author of the Bronson's Loose books, and then Disc two on the Blu ray 802 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:32.920 we are getting the brand new, updated master of the film with that audio 803 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.119 commentary plus some of the archival stuff. We got an interview with actor John 804 01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:43.519 Hirsfeld, the US and UK radio spots, TV spots trailers. That one's 805 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.280 remastered as well, and then of course we are gonna get some subs on 806 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:50.679 this. But either way, it is nice to see this in four K 807 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.280 to go along with that vinegar syndrome four K of Death Wish two. Yeah, 808 01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.840 that's gonna be a big seller for Keno. So I have been a 809 01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:04.559 viscerated in the con Men's multiple times for not adoring Charles Bronson. What are 810 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:10.320 your feelings on Charles Bronson. I like him, uh, you know, 811 01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.480 yeah, he has a semi vibe in each film, But once you get 812 01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.159 into some of these films of his, you know he's done some unique stuff 813 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:27.239 like White Buffalo is real unique. But yeah, he's kind of the that 814 01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:32.079 gruff too much Jack Daniels type of look on his face. I think that's 815 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.280 what I've narrowed it down to. I think I don't like that generation's vision 816 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:44.039 of manly men the whole. Charles Bronson, Clint Eastwood, John Wayne Uh, 817 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.599 Chuck Norris, even somebody like Jean Claude Van Dam, which I know 818 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:52.320 you like. I I just can't gravitate towards them. I don't. I 819 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:58.559 will say about John Claude van Dam is he always played the blue collar guy. 820 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:04.280 He did he always did stuff that helped out his niece's son. You 821 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.159 know, he was a family man. I always caught him the hero of 822 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:12.440 the middle class. So that's why John Claude Van dam was my hero. 823 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:15.719 Well that and I gotta give it to him a little bit, especially with 824 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.960 the roles that he chose. There was a layer of camp to a lot 825 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.000 of Jean Claude van dam stuff. It wasn't just played completely seriously, there 826 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.679 was. He was in on some of the jokes for sure. There's no 827 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:30.159 way that he couldn't have been. Yeah, I had a real good timing 828 01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:36.960 for humor that people sometimes don't see or don't kind of got lost in some 829 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.840 of the lesser films. But right, funny guy stan Geeze's finally here and 830 01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:47.800 he said I can only stomach time cop. All right, let's go to 831 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:52.559 what we always share next, and that is what is coming out next week 832 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:57.000 that you may have missed. And next week is a doozy of a four 833 01:02:57.079 --> 01:03:00.920 K week, So we are getting all kind of on four K. We're 834 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:07.320 getting National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, A Christmas Story Elf, the Christmas Specials Collection, 835 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.239 the Polar Express, all of those Christmas films coming to four K all 836 01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:16.239 on November first. Also, we're getting The Running Man four K with Schwarzenegger, 837 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:22.679 the updated Starship Troopers four K Steelbook, which I believe is a new 838 01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.039 disc compared to the old four K that had already come out, so some 839 01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:30.519 people might be into that one. A little film called In the Mood for 840 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:36.800 Love is coming from Criterion Pirana four K is coming from Screen Factory, Top 841 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:40.079 Gun, the two pack and the second film that just came out earlier this 842 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.079 year, that is coming out on four K, and actually I believe that 843 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.280 one is getting a Monday release. It's coming out on Halloween. Because Tom 844 01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:52.000 Cruise controls so much he's allowed to get his own special release date for it. 845 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.679 I'm curious if there's something with that, like they had to have it 846 01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:59.320 on sale in October and that was the latest they could possibly delay it or 847 01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:04.880 something that's weird. Yeah, I don't know why. Then we're getting another 848 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:10.280 four K update of The Evil Dead and Evil Dead two. There's nothing new 849 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:15.840 on these discs. It is just one of the most exploited franchise in home 850 01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.599 video history, so of course they're gonna put it out again. We are 851 01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:26.400 getting the Bing Crosby Joint Holiday Inn on four K with Fred Astaire at close 852 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:31.119 range coming from MVD. Rewind daisies from Criterion One that I was looking forward 853 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:35.559 to. The El Vampiro Negro coming from Flicker. Ally, I certainly need 854 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:42.440 to look into picking that one up for sure for all those masochistic people. 855 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:46.199 Sharknado the Complete Collection comes out next week. Dream Lover I believe this is 856 01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:54.320 Keno putting that out. Another one from Cohen Media, Felix and Lola and 857 01:04:54.440 --> 01:05:00.960 Love Street. This is two films by Patricia Lecant. Then The Good Boss, 858 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.159 also from Cohen Media. This is the Javier Bardem movie that I am 859 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.159 dying to see because it sounds like he's gonna be great in that. Uh, 860 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.800 let's see. I think this was the bulk of what i'd seen when 861 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:15.760 I checked earlier. And yeah, that's about it. Anything coming out next 862 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.639 week that you're dying to get your hands on that you don't yet, maybe 863 01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:23.119 Piranha four K from the Screen Factory, but I'll say that I just got 864 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:29.039 my vinegar syndrome email, so I'll be messing with those movies next week. 865 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:32.119 Smart, smart, Yeah, I can't wait to see what a Pranah and 866 01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:35.960 four K is gonna look like, because that movie, it's not it's not 867 01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:41.599 always looked terrible like the older Screen Factory when it looked good. But this 868 01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.840 is one that it could really shine in four K if they did it right. 869 01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.760 YEP. Probably for reviews, Brian says, watching Daily Halloween movie with 870 01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:56.159 friends, first time, watching Ernest Scared stupid, first time. I'm considering 871 01:05:56.199 --> 01:06:00.599 showing that to my kids on Halloween this year. Actually, all right, 872 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:05.960 So the meat and potatoes of the show we are. We are here already, 873 01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:11.880 and like, this is faster than normal. Ryan, what is that 874 01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:16.039 cartoon release? Did I miss one? Uh? Let me pull up what 875 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:24.880 I just closed and let's see. I didn't even see one for it in 876 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.960 there. Oh it is there. That is a Sandpiper release. Another one 877 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:34.440 coming from them. It is a release of the old Twilight Time disc. 878 01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.360 I'm not sure if it's gonna have any of the same features, but it 879 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:43.920 is getting another release. Uh, okay, so faster than I expected, 880 01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:45.920 because usually the announcements take us a good hour and a half or two hours 881 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.840 to get through. This week, yeah, it's been very slow, but 882 01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:55.280 next week looks to be kind of huge. We're getting Arrow announcements tomorrow, 883 01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:59.400 screen factory announcements Monday, and then of course the first is next week. 884 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:03.119 So we're getting all kinds of OCN goodies getting announced next Tuesday. A whole 885 01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.719 bunch of stuff coming up. Silent man, Well, no reason to apologize. 886 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:09.639 I am here to help. That's why we have the show. Come 887 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:15.519 on, all right. The main meat and potatoes of the show tonight is 888 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:20.599 gonna be on extreme horror. So first question, how do you define extreme 889 01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:25.719 horror? Because this is looked at as differently by so many people. It 890 01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.840 is, and I think there's two sets of extreme horror. There's the just 891 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:33.159 to shock you, and then there's the one that's made with artistic intentions. 892 01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:41.239 And I lean towards the artistic intentions because but I mean, you know, 893 01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.880 let's let's say Faces of Death, that's easily an extreme horror. Yeah, 894 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:53.159 it's just there to shock on. You know, there's there's nothing deep about 895 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:57.800 it, is just what can gross you out. I do like, what 896 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.199 are some other shocking ones that you would say, are are only there to 897 01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:06.400 shock a lot of the unearthed films stuff sadly, yeah, sad. I 898 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:11.800 mean, there's nothing wrong with those movies. There's actually pretty decent ones that 899 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:17.119 On Earth Films does have in their catalog. I could think of they're out 900 01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:21.520 of print DVD of Aftermath. It's a Spanish short film about thirty five minutes, 901 01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:30.439 utterly shocking. I guess there's some maybe psychological stuff you could analyze from 902 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.600 it, but it's just there to shock. But it's damn good. Oh 903 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:38.720 right, I showed it on a date night once to a lady. Really 904 01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:45.199 really brave decision there, like shaking did iron Brownie points like no, I 905 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.600 just wanted to watch it tonight. Thanks for watching. So we got a 906 01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:53.399 good, a good breaking off point before we get too deep into this camp, 907 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:58.039 says Terrifier. So my question to you is do you view Terrifier as 908 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:02.800 an extreme horror film? No? I do not. I do terrify her 909 01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.920 as This is like, to me, the definition of a torture porn film. 910 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:13.399 Uh yeah, it's it's just uh Friday thirteenth, Part four on Red 911 01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:19.399 Bull. You know, it's amped up gore with less plot somehow, I 912 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:24.680 don't know. Uh Terrifier does the first Terrifier not the second one? Both 913 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:29.239 of them do it for me? Uh, Spaghetti said the Mondo Docs. 914 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:39.159 That's actually a good, uh example in just the shock side of especially some 915 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:45.640 of the later ones like Africa, Blood and Guts. It's yeah, they 916 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.840 some of them get tough to watch. Uh so I would I would tend 917 01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:53.159 to agree with you. There are some that are made just to shock, 918 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.479 there are some that are made with artistic intent, and obviously there are some 919 01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:00.560 that blur those lines as well. Because some of them, uh like a 920 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:05.319 Serbian film, and some of them, like Necromantic, they are made too 921 01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:10.720 shock and that was the point of the film's two shock. However, there 922 01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:17.199 was an intent in those feelings, like Necromantic was made to protest the rating 923 01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:21.119 system in the country that they were making the film, and without that they 924 01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:25.760 would not be able to have any sort of reputation or legacy that they have 925 01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:30.319 with this, because it would just be another lost movie because they would do 926 01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:34.399 nothing. So the shocking part is there for a reason. It's to make 927 01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:42.880 people remember it. And yeah, you people got to a stand even even 928 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.960 just shock art, and you can go into the art world. I'm thinking 929 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.399 of this photograph from I want to say eighty six called the Piss Christ. 930 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:58.720 It's this photograph of this crucifix and it's almost looks like it's in apotalyptic setting. 931 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:02.239 But when you find out the artist, uh just dipped a crucifix into 932 01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:09.600 a jar of piss and took a picture of it, you know. But 933 01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:15.439 I mean there's an element of shock sometimes that can be just beautiful or you 934 01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.359 know, there could be a reason why he's shocking. You Like, to 935 01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:24.279 shock someone isn't a bad thing, right at all. I guess it's what's 936 01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:29.119 the intense, Like anyone can show a beheading of a journalist in the Middle 937 01:11:29.119 --> 01:11:31.279 East to shock you, but why why would you want to see that? 938 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:35.239 You know? But something you know, some of these movies they shock you 939 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:39.960 for a lot of reasons. And you've got to understand a lot of this 940 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:45.800 stuff is not created in a vacuum where people we have life experiences and we 941 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.880 put this into our art whither it's a painting, a film, music, 942 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:55.640 there's a reason in uh, sometimes the stuff is you know, you just 943 01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:59.399 it's hard to watch, but you got to understand at least understand where the 944 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.159 artists coming from. And I hope that's what me and you're going to do 945 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:06.319 tonight. Yeah, And I think that with some of these blurred lines, 946 01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:12.640 there is a lot of wiggle room for nuance and for people to debate the 947 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.720 merits of some of these films. But keep in mind as we go through 948 01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:20.039 all of this that again, no, there's no reason to gatekeep anybody's opinions. 949 01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:24.199 There's no reason to share that somebody is a bad person for watching some 950 01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:29.760 of these There's no reason to even think some of the scenes in a Serbian 951 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:32.640 film which are some people would say the worst things ever filmed in a full 952 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:39.800 feature length movie that they shouldn't be there necessarily because the person behind that film 953 01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:44.119 had an actual intent for it to be made that way. And it's it 954 01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:46.159 is shocking. I'm not taking that away. It is extreme. I am 955 01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:51.960 rating it as such as well, but also it's got I don't know, 956 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.760 it's got a completely different meaning to it when you really break it down and 957 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.119 listen to the person behind it. Because these films, they're not just coming 958 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:03.880 out of a studio. They're coming out of a person who could be employed 959 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.640 at a studio, or most of the time it's an indie, but it 960 01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:12.680 is a voice telling a story just through away that you're not used to. 961 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:17.239 No no, And I think there's a complacency that we as a culture have 962 01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:21.920 gotten in the last twenty years. And it's not really a left wing versus 963 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:26.640 a right wing thing. It just as a coachure we've become. We don't 964 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:29.479 want to see that, we know it exists, don't talk about it, 965 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.119 and you see it in a lot of films nowadays. They just they're just 966 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:39.199 I don't know, paint by numbers sometimes and that's fine for some movies, 967 01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:43.520 but you know, sometimes send a shock to your system, live a little 968 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.920 understand something has some empathy to someone's pain and plight, because a lot of 969 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:53.680 these movies won't talk about there's real pain in what they're trying to say to 970 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:59.199 you. Anthony says, the baby an American sniper is a lot more shocking. 971 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.800 Isn't that like gied or was there like plastic baby or something? It 972 01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:08.640 is a completely rubber baby and you can see Bradley Cooper's arm shaking to make 973 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:14.199 it move. It's just sad. So let's talk about a handful of these 974 01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:17.479 films why they were made, and for some of them we may not know 975 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.880 the full on answer to it, but we can speculate and draw some meaning 976 01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:26.960 behind them, but also maybe share some of the ones that are shocking that 977 01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:30.880 still might be worth it to watch. So absolutely, first of all, 978 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:33.960 Faces of Death, I agree with you that is one of the best to 979 01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:39.279 bring up as just a shock factor film. However, I would say it's 980 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:44.399 kind of important to watch just because of the cultural lamp like mark that it's 981 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.359 the actual touch point that it was for a complete generation. Faces of Death 982 01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:51.439 is something that everybody saw passed around at their high school. If you went 983 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:57.720 to high school in the mid nineties, people had this like hush hush reputation. 984 01:14:58.159 --> 01:15:00.119 Did you see the snuff film going around? And that's where a lot 985 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:02.720 of people first heard the term stuff film because they thought all of it was 986 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:08.479 real when it wasn't necessarily and you know, just on an artistic side, 987 01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:12.640 it's actually really need to study the editing of that movie, how they bore 988 01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:18.359 the fake scenes with the real scenes. Yep. Stan Geezy says, I 989 01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:20.600 had to be forced to watch a Serbian film, but once I did, 990 01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:27.239 I was really glad that I did. That's awesome. John Demarsco brings up 991 01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:31.479 shock cinema origins Solo Cannibal Holocaust and I spit on your grave. We'll get 992 01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:36.640 there, John, those are good touches, other shock ones that might be 993 01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:41.560 worth it for people to watch. What would you lean into there? Ah, 994 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:43.920 Well, since we're not going to go with their granddaddy, let's go 995 01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:54.680 with some maybe outside the box ancers. The Gestapo's Last Orgy. Out of 996 01:15:54.720 --> 01:16:00.359 all the nazisploitation films, this one is still a gut punched thirty five years 997 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:05.760 later. It's a rough watch, but it's so beautiful, like in terms 998 01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:12.880 of cinematography and stuff. But man, this movie goes there and you feel 999 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:17.760 super dirty about watching it, for sure. But friend of the Channel Sam 1000 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:23.960 Dick is a wonderful commentary on this disc a must listen, must listen. 1001 01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:29.000 So what what makes that one extreme for everybody that hasn't seen it. Well, 1002 01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:36.079 there's some some very vile scenes. Oh man, you're gonna you're gonna 1003 01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:44.279 talk about this, I am. There's a dinner scene that roughs into an 1004 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:53.880 origin with German soldiers and Jewish servants. I would say the most shocking part 1005 01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:59.439 is there's a platter of a German girl that they were gonna like eat. 1006 01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:02.680 She's like a yes, the stuff pig thing, and she's totally like burnt 1007 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:11.680 and they have sex on top of her. It's this, Yeah, I'll 1008 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:14.960 throw one out now, and I will throw out one that's already got mentioned. 1009 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.479 I think the August Underground trilogy is a more modern version of the Faces 1010 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:24.039 of Death type of thing where it's shocking to be shocking. But I would 1011 01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:27.399 say it's almost important to watch it at least once just because of the cultural 1012 01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:30.720 impact that it's had. Because it's another one that had that Whisper. You 1013 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.640 know, reputation passed around for a lot of people that had never seen it, 1014 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:39.640 and now it's getting this random blu ray release from Onearth's Films here pretty 1015 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.399 soon, and I think a lot more people are finally gonna be able to 1016 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:45.760 see it. In high death. Uh. Gary North just said the music 1017 01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:50.800 in Gestapo's loas Orgy is amazing. It is. It's not a schlock film. 1018 01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:57.600 It's made really really well. Out of all the Nazis plitation films. 1019 01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:00.880 I think it's like one of the better looking ones. It's a better acted 1020 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:05.520 one. It has like a better story. Well, I mean, you 1021 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:09.560 know, for what it is. Yeah, it also has a very shocking 1022 01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:13.880 baby scene at the end of the movie as well. So we are getting 1023 01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:18.960 some of the similar answers here. So let's roll into rape revenge films. 1024 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:26.560 So I Spit on Your Grave is obviously probably the most well known title. 1025 01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:31.399 We also have things like Thriller that came out from Vinegar Syndrome earlier this year. 1026 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.479 We've got, gosh, what are some of the other better rape revenge 1027 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:40.880 films? Well, first off, revenge is a good modern version of that. 1028 01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:47.239 Why why do you watch those? I don't know? The thing is 1029 01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:51.600 with I Spin Your Grave. It was kind of like one of those horror 1030 01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:57.720 film like benchmarks, a like can you watch it? Can you get through 1031 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.720 it? But when you watch it and you find out the real story behind 1032 01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:08.000 it, and I know there's some women that watch it too, it's cathartic 1033 01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:14.520 for them. Yeah, you know, it's rough. Irreversible, Yep, 1034 01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.319 yep. Irreversible is a good one. I would say, I don't watch 1035 01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:25.119 them for catharsis because that's never happened to me. But the empathy feeling that 1036 01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:29.159 can come out of these is a really good thing to explore exactly. And 1037 01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:35.279 as you're watching this, as long as you don't feel empathy for the rapist 1038 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:40.479 or you know, worried about why they're being killed, it is a really 1039 01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:44.319 nice way for you to just verify, Hey, I'm at least a halfway 1040 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:49.079 decent person. And I say that laughingly just because it's such a touchy subject, 1041 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:53.199 But the truth of the matter is, and the last decade has really 1042 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:57.560 proved how prevalent this has been in our society, is that the odds are 1043 01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:00.239 most women that you've ever met in your life have been assaulted in some way, 1044 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:06.079 which is gross to think about first of all horrifying, horrifying, embarrassing 1045 01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:12.520 for society and men in general. But also it is so nice to see 1046 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:16.800 that some people can take a story like that and get genuine anger out in 1047 01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:21.520 a way that makes it something that people can latch onto and realize. Women 1048 01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:27.199 can stand up for themselves. Women can you know, take a stand in 1049 01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:30.720 society. And although it may not be I Spin on your Grave, it 1050 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:33.520 may be a lawsuit in twenty twenty two where people are finally getting their come 1051 01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:38.640 up ince and it's it's important to make sure that those stories are told so 1052 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:44.600 that we it's important for society to continue to view them as horrifying rather than 1053 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:47.319 accepting it as a normalcy. Yeah, so you gotta remember I Spend your 1054 01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:53.720 Grave was also called Day of a Woman, right, I Spend your Grave 1055 01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:59.119 as a You know, while she does see vengeance, bloody vengeance against her 1056 01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:03.880 rapist, she's not the same after. It's like, I mean, she 1057 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:09.720 could have easily not killed the guys and still been that same person she was 1058 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:14.520 at the end of the movie. You know, it's a dark, neilistic 1059 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:19.399 film. Dude McMahon and Stan Geezy both brought up Last House on the Left, 1060 01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:24.000 dude says, I think Last House on the Left gets left out because 1061 01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.840 Wes Craven became such a household name. Eventually, it's still a pretty appealing 1062 01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:32.920 film. It is really well made. The original one is very much a 1063 01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:38.079 shocking time piece. Then I will say that the remake is one of the 1064 01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:41.720 better remakes in my opinion. I think that they really keep the depravity in 1065 01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:45.600 it and upgrade it to a more modern sensibility. And on top of that, 1066 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:50.720 they make the captors even less likable, which is nice and makes them 1067 01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:58.159 really easy to hate thankfully. So yeah, both still really great films to 1068 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:01.880 watch. Anything else for rape Revenge that you want to throw out there, 1069 01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:08.800 well, I see video man talking about how Last House and Thriller or should 1070 01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:14.359 be put on the pedestal above. I spit, Uh maybe, but I 1071 01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:17.920 spit is just one of those movies. Despite its lurid title, it just 1072 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:25.800 holds so much weight on a singular act like that whole twenty five minute rape 1073 01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:31.239 sequence. It's brutal. It's brute, oh maybe even more so than anything 1074 01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.600 and Thriller, which you know is a different side of a rape with the 1075 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:43.960 sex work aspect that and I will I will stand up once again bravely and 1076 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.079 in our platform because you all agree with me. So I'm just kind of 1077 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:49.479 preaching to the choir here. But this is another one of the reasons why 1078 01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:54.319 things like physical media is so important, because one of the reasons I Spit 1079 01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:57.359 on Your Grave is always talked about more so than some of these other ones 1080 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.800 is accessibility. It was much easier to see I Spit on your Grave, 1081 01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:04.479 at least in the US for a very long time. The Last House on 1082 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:08.479 the Left was a little more difficult to see until it got a little more 1083 01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:13.439 West Craven appeal from it. And Thriller has notoriously been difficult to see, 1084 01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:17.359 at least in a good version that was not uncensored or yeah, that was 1085 01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:21.399 not censored in the US anyway, it's a quin Tartino to mention it to 1086 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:28.680 get a state side release of it. Yeah, So that sort of response 1087 01:23:28.920 --> 01:23:32.319 is the only thing that gets these within the zeitgeist. And when I Spit 1088 01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:34.880 on Your Grave has kind of always been in the zeitgeist. It's going to 1089 01:23:34.920 --> 01:23:41.439 have that reputation over the others just playing by accessibility standards. Miss forty five 1090 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:46.000 is another great one in that genre. It is and I just saw that 1091 01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:49.800 film for the first time. Gosh, I think about two years ago, 1092 01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:55.920 and that one it is great, I will say that, but there are 1093 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:59.560 some things in that film that just stuck with me. If you have not 1094 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.279 seen it, I know right now the blu rays out of print and very 1095 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:06.159 expensive. I don't remember the company's name that bought the draft House Films catalog. 1096 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:10.680 I would imagine they would be putting that out eventually, and if not, 1097 01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.760 this is a title that would be right for a really nice four K 1098 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.880 release. It is shot on film in the most beautiful way with a big 1099 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:25.399 name director with a nice reputation, and there's still a lot that they could 1100 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.560 do with special features on that. So I would love to see that get 1101 01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:32.800 released. Question from dude, where does straw Dogs fall in this discussion? 1102 01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:42.159 For you? A middle of the road. I like straw Dogs. I 1103 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.039 think it's a very well made film. I think it's one that does get 1104 01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:49.920 at least overlooked it especially in modern discussions through a lot of these I think 1105 01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:56.199 straw Dogs hit a stride like fifteen years ago in film discussion and has just 1106 01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:59.560 sort of died down since then for some reason. But yeah, it definitely 1107 01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.479 deserves a mention. It's a really well made film. Uh. So we 1108 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:08.359 talked about rape Revenge. What is I'll shoot it to you, what is 1109 01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:11.800 the next sort of subgenre of extreme that you want to talk about. I 1110 01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:15.279 want to go this is going to be kind of an asterix I think for 1111 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:20.479 extreme extreme put an asterisks. But it's also a movie that's relevant today as 1112 01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:24.880 it was back then, and a movie that will never get made. That's 1113 01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:28.560 the thing. A lot of these movies, you really can't remake them. 1114 01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:31.600 No one's going to remake these, and some of the culture aspects of it 1115 01:25:32.119 --> 01:25:36.079 will get to won't ever be remade. And one I want to highlight. 1116 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:41.359 It's an outlier, Like I said, not what I would put in with 1117 01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:45.600 the Serbian film or Campbell Holocaust, but is fight for your life with the 1118 01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:53.359 with the nature of what it talks about with race relations, it's it goes 1119 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:59.359 there. It's a tough, tough watch. Yeah, there's a lot of 1120 01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:03.760 blacksplay to that was done in a way to highlight the big cultural divide, 1121 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:08.720 and it was done in a way to highlight the depravity which I could see 1122 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:12.439 it firmly lying in extreme cinema for a lot of people, not in a 1123 01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:15.000 way like Martyrs or Inside or anything like that, but in a way that 1124 01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:20.520 is just shocking for different reasons. And it was important and it's still important, 1125 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.800 and that's one of the reasons why I'm sad that we're likely never going 1126 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:27.800 to see a Blu Ray release of that film. No, No, I 1127 01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:30.840 think a lot of it's with elements, but still, yeah, it's a 1128 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:35.319 tough picture to put out because of the way race is handled. It's very 1129 01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:42.439 you're following a very racist character in right, It's just brutal. It's just 1130 01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:46.079 brutal in that regards. And unfortunately it's as timely today as it was when 1131 01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:49.560 it came out thirty five forty years ago. Yeah, and Fight for Your 1132 01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:54.640 Life is one of those that you could literally look away from the film and 1133 01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.479 just listen to it, and it's still extreme cinema. It is language, 1134 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:02.560 yes, oh yeah, that movie is is just it shocks cinema through and 1135 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:06.319 through. But it's again, it's done with an intent to tell a story 1136 01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:14.119 and complete a mission that it super super succeeds at. But yet we're still 1137 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:18.279 fighting the same mission forty plus years later, and no sign of that slowing. 1138 01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:23.159 In fact, it seems to be gaining some traction, which makes youselves 1139 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:28.760 no, all right. So other than that, the next one I'll throw 1140 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:32.000 out is we got a I just mentioned a couple of them. We got 1141 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:36.520 this whole wave of extreme films that came out of France in the mid two 1142 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:44.800 thousands. What is French new wave extremity like for you? I think it 1143 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.159 is the crown jewel of it, even if High Tension is probably the most 1144 01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:54.800 fun of the movies. But h yeah, So you have to understand what 1145 01:27:55.079 --> 01:28:00.319 France was like as the country leading up to this early two thousands. They 1146 01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.680 just didn't have a history of horror. They had a history of fantastic, 1147 01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:09.199 which is different than horror, even though there's some blurred lines. You know, 1148 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:14.279 obviously genre Lan is the key, like his stuff, They hid it 1149 01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:18.399 even it was never super widely available, which is crazy. They had a 1150 01:28:18.520 --> 01:28:26.920 change in the government that allow a little more freedom and a lot of societal 1151 01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.880 stuff is bubbling up in the country. They were learning a lot about their 1152 01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:38.560 horrific Algerian War. I believe from the late sixties a lot of it wasn't 1153 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:43.840 known. A lot of this stuff is a violent reaction to learning about their 1154 01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:49.159 past. All countries have a bloody past. America is no different than any 1155 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:57.239 other countries. Bloody past, yes it is, and that's what Barter's was 1156 01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:01.600 formed, and it was the director was highly depressed, he was mad ass. 1157 01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:08.119 Country knew he was exploring a lot of stuff within religion. Religion is 1158 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:12.399 a big part of a lot of people's lives, regardless if you believe in 1159 01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:16.479 one or the other. Don't believe religion is just a blanket over society, 1160 01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:24.560 right and Martyrs was an explosion against all of that. And that's a lot 1161 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:29.199 of the French New Wave extreme came out of this period of protest cinema. 1162 01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:31.399 And I know that we talked about that a little bit just a few minutes 1163 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:35.600 ago, But in all reality, the discussion with Sam Degan that I had 1164 01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:41.960 is really important in regards to protest cinema and the French New Wave extreme era 1165 01:29:42.079 --> 01:29:46.520 that they had is the very definition of it. Because when you hold a 1166 01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:50.680 group of people down for so long, the moment they get freedom, if 1167 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:55.920 you held so much power that they did not have the artistic freedom to do 1168 01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:59.359 what they want, they're not going to react in a way that is kind. 1169 01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:01.600 They're gonna to react in a way that is taking some of that forced 1170 01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:06.039 back, and that is where all of this came from. Uh, we 1171 01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:11.119 have high tension was the in my opinion, the big kicking off point. 1172 01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:14.359 Would you agree there? Yeah, I mean, I know trouble every Day 1173 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:18.159 was the real kickoff to it. But I think mainstream United States to focus 1174 01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:29.039 on this because after our high tension came martyrs came inside, came frontiers them. 1175 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:31.279 Yeah, there's quite a few of them, and they are they are 1176 01:30:31.319 --> 01:30:36.239 made in a way that you can tell, like, what is the best 1177 01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:41.079 way to say this. If you're watching Martyrs and you are easily shocked and 1178 01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:44.439 the moment that something like that comes on screen and you cover your eyes or 1179 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.760 look away or get so disgusted that you can't pay attention, you're gonna lose 1180 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:51.760 the main message to the story because a lot of it is there to shock 1181 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:55.720 you and wake you up a little bit. But if you are there for 1182 01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:59.600 the ride and are able to comprehend what they're trying to show you throughout the 1183 01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:03.399 entire film, it is this beautiful story that you can really grab onto. 1184 01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:08.159 However, I would agree it's not like an easy rewatch or anything like that, 1185 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:13.319 but it's an important film, and they're therein lies. I think some 1186 01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:18.239 of the differences between some of these because a lot of these, like again, 1187 01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:23.600 like August Underground, it's truly not an important film. There's nothing that 1188 01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:27.920 you watch August Underground and it changes somebody's life in a way that it leads 1189 01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:31.800 to a big mass protest across the country. But something like Martyrs can do 1190 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:36.760 that. It can set up an entire movement against a government. Yeah, 1191 01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:42.119 and Martyrs is just one of those movies that it stays with you after you 1192 01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:46.760 watch it for days. Yeah, Martyrs is heavy, and a lot of 1193 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:51.119 people look at it in the same vein as something that is all torture porn, 1194 01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:59.359 like Cabin Fever or even Saw or even Yeah, Hostile is probably the 1195 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.640 perfect one to compare it to, because just how like visceral it is. 1196 01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:08.199 So in your opinion, what is the main difference between something like a Hostle 1197 01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:11.760 or Hostle too and Martyrs, Because a lot of people will look at it 1198 01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:14.119 and just say it's gory. It's the same thing. Why should I watch 1199 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:16.560 it? No? No, aso, Yeah it's gory. A lot of 1200 01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.920 people think it's extreme. I don't think Costo is no more extreme than any 1201 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:26.560 slash or film that came before. It focuses a little bit more on gross 1202 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:30.439 stuff like achille tendons and eyeball rips and stuff, but I mean that's just 1203 01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:35.359 gore effects. Martyrs is infused every frame in that movie with a director trying 1204 01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:41.279 to say something to make you feel something. Right, Yeah, and hostile. 1205 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:44.800 I'd still say it's a good watch, that I got nothing wrong with 1206 01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:47.880 it. Oh no, no entertaining film. So by all means it doesn't 1207 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:53.680 mean that it's a bad movie, just a completely different thing. Martyrs is 1208 01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:58.920 again a difficult watch. I mean, there is so much blood in that 1209 01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:04.800 movie. There is somebody with how do you even describe her, like almost 1210 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:13.319 all of her skin removed. It's like it's brutal, and it's it's brutal 1211 01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:18.159 too because it takes religion in a different direction. A lot people don't like 1212 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:23.279 to see it talk about it well. And the idea that I brought at 1213 01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:26.239 the beginning of this Martyrs has a lot to do with family too. I 1214 01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:30.039 mean, it's two sisters in a dire or they're treating each other as sisters 1215 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:34.880 basically in a dire situation and coming into a house and controlling what they can 1216 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:40.520 and Martyrs is just it's tough to go into and one of those things I 1217 01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:42.520 don't want to say too too much if you've never seen it, and a 1218 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.119 lot of people haven't, because it can be semi tough to watch. Although 1219 01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:50.439 I guess according to the comments it's on Voodoo or two B with commercials free 1220 01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:57.920 v never even heard of that one has Martyrs for free? Was i'mdv IMDb 1221 01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:05.880 TV. Interesting, that's not shutter for a long time too. Uh? 1222 01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:10.600 Yes, and that was gosh, I think that was September or August that 1223 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:13.640 they had the month where they had all of the French Way New Wave Extreme. 1224 01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:15.199 That was a good month for that stuff. Man, it was so 1225 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:24.319 nice stuff in HD. Uh So after French New Wave Extreme, what is 1226 01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:27.439 uh? Do you think it's time? Is it time we break into? 1227 01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:33.840 We got no? We got one more side step, we got cat three 1228 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:45.199 a te touche. So yeah, I grabbed the one run on earthed film's 1229 01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:49.119 release. So we have a bullet syndrome and then which one are you looking 1230 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:56.319 for? The Uh? Well, it's it's also basically the same film, 1231 01:34:56.399 --> 01:35:00.479 untold story in a bullet Syndrome a little bit different. Obviously they're different, 1232 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:04.439 but Anthony Wong and both and very similar plot lines. Yeah, you know, 1233 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:09.880 the thing with Cat three is they go there, and they go there 1234 01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:14.199 where no one has really gone before. In terms of how much you can 1235 01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:16.800 stomach. They almost put it on their chest, like this is a pride 1236 01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:21.319 that this is the line we can't cross. We're going one hundred yards over 1237 01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:27.199 it. I mean, unless I just don't understand a lot about Hong Kong 1238 01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:29.960 culture. I don't think a lot of it was political. I think a 1239 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:35.399 lot of it was just for fun, shocking entertainment. But Bola syndrome and 1240 01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:43.680 coming at the tail end of the pandemic that we've had, yes, I 1241 01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:47.680 think the movie that makes you uncomfortable from frame one to the final bit, 1242 01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:51.720 but I'll throw in there too. One that was fun to watch during the 1243 01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:57.159 pandemic was the brand new film The Sadness, because the whole first part of 1244 01:35:57.159 --> 01:36:00.880 this movie is making fun of how government is handling a virus. And that 1245 01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:03.720 movie did not stand back from the line either. That movie, like, 1246 01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:09.720 I guess you don't call him zombies? That one of the infected. Let's 1247 01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:14.000 see how to say this on YouTube without getting everybody pissed off. The most 1248 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.279 PG way I can say this, I guess is skull focks a woman. 1249 01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:21.880 Huh. Yeah, it is so past the point for some of that. 1250 01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:27.199 And the best thing about The Sadness is it starts like four minutes in they 1251 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:30.079 have this nice little couple, you know, waking up moment, and then 1252 01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:35.079 it goes right into it when the guy sees that person across from the rooftop. 1253 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:40.239 And it is so nice to see a movie in twenty twenty two not 1254 01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:45.760 hold back on everything and still try a lot with good practical effects, but 1255 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:49.960 not go all in on CGI because they really could have with that, and 1256 01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:55.560 they did really damn well. I thought, I'm actually kind of excited to 1257 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:59.560 see a lot of people in the comments and online like The Sadness. Yeah. 1258 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:03.640 So saying a while ago about how movies have become so kind of bland, 1259 01:37:04.279 --> 01:37:08.239 Yeah, you know, I could see a lot of violent reaction to 1260 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:14.159 that movie because the violence is sexual. The virus creates a kind of a 1261 01:37:14.279 --> 01:37:19.399 sexual urgency in these infected people, and that's just stuff that you don't see 1262 01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:25.279 in movies today, right, And there is a lot in that movie that 1263 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:28.399 I could see pissing people off, too, especially coming off the tail end. 1264 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:32.560 Of literally having millions of people die across the globe and we it's basically 1265 01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:38.479 mocking that throughout the entire thing. So yeah, it's it's a really good 1266 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:42.439 story and I think really well told. In twenty twenty two, Oh, 1267 01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:45.880 in Bola Syndrome, Anthony Wand's run around coughing on things. I mean, 1268 01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:51.000 how many Walmart videos do we see of someone not masking up coughing on people 1269 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:55.800 because they think it's a damn joke. And I mean, bulla syndrome, 1270 01:37:55.800 --> 01:38:00.239 like I said, doesn't have any like deep roots into anything political or social 1271 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:03.920 or philosophical. But in this day and age, that movie is like, 1272 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:08.359 oh my god, right, And that's that's the thing with some of the 1273 01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:11.760 Cat three that I will throw out now is what makes me enjoy a lot 1274 01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:15.920 of it is it's it's extreme, no doubt. However, they are not 1275 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.520 afraid to be silly in a lot of their films either. Oh, there's 1276 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:21.399 a lot of comedy in those. There's so much, so much just joking 1277 01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:25.920 around. I mean, look at Ricky O. That's like one of the 1278 01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:29.520 funniest films to come out of the entire genre. And it's so damn over 1279 01:38:29.560 --> 01:38:34.000 the top. I mean the mud prison scene is wild. Yeah, wild 1280 01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:41.479 spaghetti. Uh mentioned Doctor Lamb and Men Behind the Sun. Men behind the 1281 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.840 Sun. I believe I've seen the fourth one, which is called Black Sun, 1282 01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:50.000 the Nankeen Massacre. That movie is brutal, another terrible baby sequence in 1283 01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:57.960 that movie. Joy Then Behind the Sun famously coming from Masacer video for the 1284 01:38:58.039 --> 01:39:00.479 last four years, and we'll probably either never see it or see it in 1285 01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:03.960 four more years or something. I can't wait until we have that in hand, 1286 01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:11.159 because I would say Doctor Lamb and Untold Story there's kind of an interesting 1287 01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:16.199 foundation behind them since they are loosely based on true stories, So I think 1288 01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:20.520 that's kind of an interesting footnote to extreme horror. Yeah, there's quite a 1289 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:24.880 few of them that are at least either based on them or inspired by them, 1290 01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:29.600 which is an interesting way to take it, because like the On Earth 1291 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:34.159 Films has a line of films called two Extreme for mainstream and they've gotten God. 1292 01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.319 I think they've put out five of them so far, and the first 1293 01:39:38.359 --> 01:39:42.439 one was a film called Torment, and basically it's saying this is a film 1294 01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:45.479 inspired by John Wayne Gacy and it's a guy that dresses up like a clown, 1295 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:50.760 but that's like the only similarity the whole film is this guy that dresses 1296 01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:56.640 up like a clown just torturing the ever living fuck out of this other dude. 1297 01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:00.399 And we're talking like shoving a jar in his ass and stuff like that. 1298 01:40:00.600 --> 01:40:03.520 It was not a fun watch and there's not really much to get out 1299 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:08.279 of it, which is again why that that is just shock cinema and not 1300 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:11.640 something artistic like some of the other stuff that we could actually talk about. 1301 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:15.319 So, yes, CAT three really great touching point. These these shock cinemas 1302 01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:19.920 are some of them are good. They're at least well made, and a 1303 01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:24.520 lot of them, you know, I didn't say that either. I probably 1304 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:28.039 should the line between something like torture porn and the shock cinemas. To me, 1305 01:40:28.479 --> 01:40:31.079 a lot of these are made just to like highlight really great effects. 1306 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:36.960 Yeah, and I something like Saw. People got really turned off by when 1307 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:42.079 Saw to and Saw those are really the two main ones. I think when 1308 01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:45.039 they first came out, people were completely turned off, thinking this is a 1309 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:48.239 massive gorefest. Saw Too is just a really great primer on how to do 1310 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:53.399 really good practical effects. I mean the needle scene alone where they throw the 1311 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.920 girl into the pit and the fact that they spent like five or six days 1312 01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:00.319 on set taking out individual needles and putting little fiber optics into the front of 1313 01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:04.520 these canisters. It shows how dedicated to something like this that they are. 1314 01:41:04.760 --> 01:41:10.880 And unless you're gonna go that far, it's really hard to get that point 1315 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:14.000 across in a way that's not shocking, to be honest. Yeah, but 1316 01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:16.479 you know it's not like Saw Too. You know, I wouldn't view that 1317 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:20.319 as any of these type of extreme movies out we've been highlighting at all. 1318 01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:24.600 No, but the people that are touchy to stuff like this, they certainly 1319 01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:30.279 latched onto it like that at that Absolutely, it's all. We'll say Saw 1320 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:33.600 and Saw Too were possibly martyrs for the genre. That was a good pun. 1321 01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:38.279 Uh Okay, So I think it's time to get into it some of 1322 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:42.279 the big one. Come on, you know, it's one we have we 1323 01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:47.760 cannot talk about without Campbell Holocaust. It's the granddaddy of them all. It's 1324 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:53.439 a movie that is still so shocking that when Joe Bob showed it, he 1325 01:41:53.680 --> 01:41:56.239 likes to throw hints out of what they're show and he's like, no, 1326 01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:00.439 we're showing this be prepared, right, and you're talking a movie four Yours 1327 01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:04.960 still has that power that people actively say, no, I'm not watching that, 1328 01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:09.600 And one of the reasons is because some of the stuff in it is 1329 01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:14.640 real. There are scenes of animal there are scenes of animal death that are 1330 01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:17.119 real. I won't use the T word there and call it straight animal torture, 1331 01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:21.680 but the animal deaths in this are done in a way that for some 1332 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:26.600 people it is shocking because they are not prepared for it unless they've heard the 1333 01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:30.880 entire reputation. But the other shocking thing is, just like Blair Witch, 1334 01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:33.880 this is a movie that was viewed as one hundred percent reel. This was 1335 01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:39.640 viewed for a while like literally the director had to go argue that these were 1336 01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:43.119 actors and let me prove it to you and bring them to trial so that 1337 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:46.039 you can see them it is. It is that type of realism that can 1338 01:42:46.119 --> 01:42:49.680 cause the most shocked because it can look like a snuff film. Yeah, 1339 01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:55.560 it's one of the few, I would say stream whore that has a cinema 1340 01:42:55.560 --> 01:43:00.479 of verite filling to it. Maybe not so much in the first forty five 1341 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:03.359 minutes, but once they find the footage and start viewing it in their New 1342 01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:11.520 York screening room, it and you see it in a documentary fashion. It's 1343 01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:16.000 it's uncanny and it will never be replicated again for a few reasons. One 1344 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:21.760 is I think we're too privy to what stage what's not, so I don't 1345 01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:28.600 think you can really blur that line in cinema like Kambal holocausted to the ever 1346 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:33.159 changing climate conditions in the green infernal aspects of you know, the force of 1347 01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:39.319 South America. This movie will never never be seen again like that. It's 1348 01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:44.399 just changed. It's almost a product of its time, of a bygone world. 1349 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.840 And then some of the effects, I think they're still some of the 1350 01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:53.920 better effects. I mean, it makes anything in Terrified to look cartoony and 1351 01:43:54.079 --> 01:43:56.800 yeah, that's a woman impaled on the pole. I still don't know how 1352 01:43:56.800 --> 01:43:59.680 they do that. I've read about it, I've seen it, I've listened 1353 01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.760 to died Auto talk about it, and I look at pictures and I just 1354 01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:09.000 don't understand how they did that. There is a gosh, I will never 1355 01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.520 remember the company, but like five or six years ago, there was a 1356 01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:15.680 company that put out a very detailed statue that was about eight inches tall of 1357 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:19.159 that scene and I've been dying to get it. But the only time that 1358 01:44:19.199 --> 01:44:24.000 it ever pops up online for sale, it's like five hundred dollars and there's 1359 01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:27.279 just no way that I could ever pay something like that for this little statue. 1360 01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:30.319 But it is such a mind blowing scene when you think about it, 1361 01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:33.720 that this was just an actor playing a part and not some impaled person and 1362 01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:38.800 it really looks like that. It is so hard to imagine how Diodato was 1363 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:42.039 able to do that. And then we have filmmakers in twenty twenty two using 1364 01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:45.800 CGI to do the most tame, absolute bullshit takes that they don't need it 1365 01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:51.439 for. And I think that's why Canawa Holocaust is the film is. Even 1366 01:44:51.479 --> 01:44:56.960 within the short lived Italian cannibal film cycle, a lot of them were just 1367 01:44:57.159 --> 01:45:00.960 they were just filmed. They were shocking, they were gross. Campbell Frocks 1368 01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:04.239 comes close to Holocaust, but Holocaust just holds a power to this day. 1369 01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:12.119 It's reminiscent a lot of wartime footage we've seen. Dead Sea Life says, 1370 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:15.880 I think a Hallmark put that statue out and then said it's an ornament. 1371 01:45:18.279 --> 01:45:23.039 Oh man, all right, So yes, cannibal films shocking themselves, most 1372 01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:27.159 of which is probably Cannibal Holocaust. The other thing that I think we would 1373 01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:30.880 be remissed to not mention here is for those that don't want to get into 1374 01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:32.960 the shocking side of it. I think it's a really great thing that a 1375 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:38.560 company like Grindhouse Releasing and now air forty four to forty four on their upcoming 1376 01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:42.079 releases are giving a mention to some people that may not want to see this 1377 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:46.119 and allowing a no animal cruelty free version. I don't know what they're calling 1378 01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:49.600 it. I'll just say cruelty free version, so that you just place a 1379 01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:53.760 button on the menu, you click the button, and it plays the whole 1380 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:57.439 movie just with that little bit of torture removed, which is great. More 1381 01:45:57.479 --> 01:46:00.560 people can see the film. It makes it a little less shock, takes 1382 01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:02.399 away some of the intent of the original film. But I am glad it's 1383 01:46:02.439 --> 01:46:08.079 there, and I'll throw out I'm sure that you probably have no reason to 1384 01:46:08.119 --> 01:46:12.680 ever visit the website, but I've name dropped it here a couple times before, 1385 01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:15.079 and I believe my wife is watching tonight. I will say that something 1386 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:19.239 that has helped us quite a bit is the website. Does the doogdie dot 1387 01:46:19.279 --> 01:46:25.279 com. That sounds like a joke, but the actual website does the doog 1388 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:29.560 dye dot com. You take that into your phone or whatever. You type 1389 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:31.000 in the name of the film, you bring it up, and there is 1390 01:46:31.199 --> 01:46:34.199 a list of all kinds of things that could be in a film that could 1391 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:40.880 trigger somebody. There's mentions for kidnapping, for rape, for incest, for 1392 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:47.359 animal death, for animal cruelty, for ghosts, for racism, for there's 1393 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.720 literally like seventy things on this list, and if there is, it will 1394 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:54.560 be checked with a yes and tell you what is in the film so you 1395 01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:59.079 can make the informed decision to watch it or not. And there's a couple 1396 01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:02.920 times like we watched a Franco movie and gosh, which one was it? 1397 01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:05.239 It was one of the ones Severn put out. I can't remember which one 1398 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:08.960 right now. It might have been Bloody Moon. And there's a part where 1399 01:47:08.960 --> 01:47:12.079 a snake gets killed and I went, dam, that looked pretty real, 1400 01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.560 and my wife goes, that wasn't real. Was it? Tell me it 1401 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:16.760 wasn't real, looked it up. It turns out it was real, and 1402 01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:20.720 it's because it was allowed back then to do that in that part of the 1403 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:27.640 world. And yeah, the website is great for stuff like this. Oh 1404 01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:32.960 comment, now is it time Okay, it's time let's talk about I think 1405 01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:41.640 one of the granddaddy's of extreme modern horror. So I watched a Serbian film 1406 01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:45.560 for just the second time last week. Literally, it was only the second 1407 01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.319 time I'd ever seen it. My wife watched it with me, and I 1408 01:47:48.359 --> 01:47:51.600 warned her beforehand, like, there's a couple scenes that are probably gonna be 1409 01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:56.600 pretty troubling, and we watched this entire thing. She stayed awake from the 1410 01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:00.399 entire movie. Props to my wife, who that's not always an easy feet 1411 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:04.880 and through this I was prepared for her to be like, oh God, 1412 01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:09.920 this is rough, but I'm gonna be honest. We finished it, and 1413 01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:13.359 we both looked at each other and came to the same realization at the same 1414 01:48:13.399 --> 01:48:16.039 moment that I think this was a lot less extreme than I remember it being. 1415 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:20.720 I don't know what it is, but this movie is good. Definitely 1416 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:26.439 a great movie. But I like the reputation is so much stronger than it 1417 01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:29.399 deserves to be for this movie. But you basically worship at the feet, 1418 01:48:29.399 --> 01:48:32.399 So give me your take. I slightly disagree on that because I think a 1419 01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:36.279 lot of people come in and they put this shield on, like this is 1420 01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:41.000 extreme i'll make it through type of thing, not saying you and your wife 1421 01:48:41.079 --> 01:48:45.960 did that, but I get that sense. You see that backlash one movies 1422 01:48:45.039 --> 01:48:48.359 or everyone's talking, oh, you gotta go see this movie. You go 1423 01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:51.119 see it and it wasn't that good. I think that's a little bit of 1424 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:56.039 that, just a little bit of it. And I think because it's so 1425 01:48:56.199 --> 01:49:01.439 well made, the shockiness almost has it just as a it's a watchable movie. 1426 01:49:01.439 --> 01:49:06.199 It's not shot on video. It doesn't have terrible CG effects, you 1427 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:11.000 know, to shots, not terrible act No, it's really good. I 1428 01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.199 think it's a masterpiece. But I mean that's just my personal opinion. But 1429 01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:17.439 the intent of it, I think is more horrific sometimes when you place the 1430 01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:25.359 intent on top of the images. So tell us about it, Well, 1431 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:29.159 it's well, what was the intent at least behind it? Well, it's 1432 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:32.399 in its name, you know, it's not called anything else but a Serbian 1433 01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:36.600 film. It's a statement on the country of Serbia and what it went through, 1434 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:42.720 what it kind of still going through. The director, well, you 1435 01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:47.960 understand a little bit. Before Serbian film was made twenty ten, about nineteen 1436 01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:54.880 ninety nine, they had a president that lied, got caught cheating out of 1437 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:59.079 funds. It was, you know, it's kind of similar to our situation 1438 01:50:00.039 --> 01:50:04.319 a love story a couple of years. Uh so. And the media also 1439 01:50:04.680 --> 01:50:11.479 was in on it. They lied to Serbian people. The economy tanked, 1440 01:50:12.319 --> 01:50:16.840 it became a gig economy. It's a term for people picking up odd jobs 1441 01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:23.840 just to survive. That's essentially what he milo does in this movie, you 1442 01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:28.880 know, for their financial stability. He has to go back to something he 1443 01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:31.319 wants, didn't want to go into, but the money was too good. 1444 01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:35.960 And when you're a family man in dire straits, I mean that's right there. 1445 01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:44.880 Just relatable. Yeah. So, first of all, do you view 1446 01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:47.159 this as a protest film a little bit? Yeah? Yeah I do. 1447 01:50:47.239 --> 01:50:54.439 Actually, yeah I would too. Uh what do you think is the reason 1448 01:50:54.680 --> 01:51:00.239 for the I'll say the two shocking film scenes that are in this that everybody 1449 01:51:00.239 --> 01:51:05.319 always refers back to. Yeah, well, one thing is you gotta understand 1450 01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:09.920 the director's intent, what he meant for it, and either you believe in 1451 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:15.359 it, we think it's bs. You gotta have at least some empathetic feelings 1452 01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:18.359 towards Okay, that's what he wanted. Okay. The most notorious is the 1453 01:51:19.199 --> 01:51:26.439 Newborn sequence and well, first, do you want to give any details about 1454 01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:30.399 what people see in that newborn sequence? Will you get flagged on YouTube? 1455 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:38.760 You use elementary level words? Well, basically, a woman gives birth and 1456 01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:44.000 a man immediately takes the baby and pro creates with it. Yes, PG 1457 01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:50.520 friendly, it's been seen as you're just screwed from birth, very maybe on 1458 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:57.159 the nose metaphor. It's a rough sequence, but a lot of people don't 1459 01:51:57.159 --> 01:52:03.199 realize that you only hear it, you don't really see it. Ish, 1460 01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:08.279 Yeah, what about what about the second scene? You want to describe that 1461 01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:14.640 one? You're talking about the end sequence? Yeah, it's just the dissolvement 1462 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:19.439 of a family dynamic. Well, when a government strangle holds its people for 1463 01:52:19.479 --> 01:52:26.479 so long, you get music art that are violently middle fingering it. And 1464 01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:30.880 that's essentially what this film is. It's probably the most strongest statement for a 1465 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:35.000 debut anyone's ever had, and unfortunately, this poor director will probably never get 1466 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:41.159 much work after this, and it's because it's such a political statement against it. 1467 01:52:42.840 --> 01:52:47.239 There was a I believe a war around that time too, early two 1468 01:52:47.239 --> 01:52:53.279 thousands that was really violent in because if you remember in the movie, they 1469 01:52:53.399 --> 01:52:57.760 talked talk about one of the characters that they you know killed you know, 1470 01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:00.640 oh, you know your husband was a war hero. So it I mean 1471 01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:04.359 the reference sing all the stuff that was happening in Serbia from i'd say ninety 1472 01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:09.279 five to two thousand and five. Yeah, for sure. And that whole 1473 01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:16.119 climax scene that was a bad wording. The wow the third act when everything 1474 01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:21.560 I was gonna say comes to a head. This doesn't get any better when 1475 01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:27.680 everything is revealed in that final scene. It is so if you were watching 1476 01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:30.239 like with intent in this film, it is sort of a gut punch for 1477 01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:35.680 everybody involved. And to see all of that happen, it sucks. It 1478 01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:41.920 just sucks because you're actually sympathetic to this main character seeing how he's been taken 1479 01:53:41.920 --> 01:53:45.960 advantage of, and then to have it end the way that it does in 1480 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.840 the house and find out that they're just still filming everything. It is just 1481 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:55.800 unabashedly grotesque to watch it being carried out this way, and it it You 1482 01:53:55.960 --> 01:54:00.520 really can't speak on it without talking about the political climate because everybody is so 1483 01:54:00.680 --> 01:54:03.359 much taking advantage of everybody in that situation. It is, and it's a 1484 01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:10.279 statement on the government's economy as well. You know, the director Volkmir. 1485 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:14.720 He obviously is a man of privilege and he's exploiting people for his own financial 1486 01:54:14.760 --> 01:54:20.720 gain. He's a capitalist. When the government was switching, when I can't 1487 01:54:20.720 --> 01:54:26.479 even say half of these Serbian names, I do apologize that when the president 1488 01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:31.520 got arrested, it created a topsy turviinus. The economy tanked. Then it 1489 01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:34.760 got a little bit better, but it just all it did was create these 1490 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:42.359 hier end people, to create a capitalist vacuum for them to exploit the working 1491 01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:47.119 class. So the main question that people are going to ask then is why 1492 01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:55.199 does that mean let's film a movie where somebody fucks a baby and I mean 1493 01:54:56.439 --> 01:55:01.479 the well, I mean sometimes you can't say these things because it goes well, 1494 01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:05.119 I mean in a kind of a normal sense in one year out the 1495 01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:08.680 other. How many times in the last couple of years people are like, 1496 01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:11.159 I'm done with politics, I'm tired of this. Right, I talk about 1497 01:55:11.199 --> 01:55:15.880 it, but sometimes you've got to create a shocking upper cut to your viewer, 1498 01:55:16.439 --> 01:55:21.039 Hey pay attention. Well, and that answers the question right there is 1499 01:55:21.079 --> 01:55:26.199 how many of us right now could name who the Serbian president was in nineteen 1500 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:30.520 ninety nine, but we can name a Serbian film from twenty ten, and 1501 01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:34.199 what it's about the reason is this is shocking and it has a reputation that 1502 01:55:34.399 --> 01:55:39.520 is more lasting than the Serbian government was in nineteen ninety nine. And because 1503 01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:43.560 of that, the message for this film, it probably didn't get across to 1504 01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:46.359 all of the viewers, but it got out to so many more ears that 1505 01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:53.000 more people could make an objective decision about it and realize, dude, something's 1506 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:56.199 got to be fucked up there for something to end up like this, that 1507 01:55:56.239 --> 01:56:00.159 they are allowed to make a film like this. So you just have this 1508 01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:06.439 education that is going out to hopefully millions, but probably not millions. Well, 1509 01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:13.239 Serbian film owes a lot, I think of its political nature to Pasolini's 1510 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:23.239 solo. Yeah, another real tough watch another I mean think about Passolini was 1511 01:56:23.279 --> 01:56:28.119 a very political figure in Italy and I believe, controversially it might have been 1512 01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:34.000 assassinated before this movie was even released in theaters. Silent manwal says, I 1513 01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:38.520 can't believe I'm sort of being convinced to watch a Serbian film. Uh, 1514 01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:43.399 I hope you do. And I don't mean that ironically. I think that 1515 01:56:43.479 --> 01:56:47.920 this is something that people should pay attention to because, like I've shared in 1516 01:56:47.960 --> 01:56:50.880 some of my interviews before, it is important to watch some of these films 1517 01:56:50.960 --> 01:56:56.479 that bring you out of your comfort zone to understand what other people are dealing 1518 01:56:56.560 --> 01:57:00.640 with and if you are from any sort of privilege, which you can make 1519 01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:02.479 an argument that if you're in the US, that alone is a state of 1520 01:57:02.479 --> 01:57:08.239 privilege to be in compared to a lot of these countries, you are not 1521 01:57:08.399 --> 01:57:12.560 able to branch out fully without being able to experience some of these other things. 1522 01:57:12.920 --> 01:57:15.520 That is not saying that watching a Serbian film is going to be a 1523 01:57:15.560 --> 01:57:19.039 realistic experience of somebody else's life. But metaphors exist for a reason, and 1524 01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:24.119 as long as you are able to separate those two and understand and learn from 1525 01:57:24.199 --> 01:57:30.119 it, you actually absolutely should see a serbian film as well as things like 1526 01:57:30.319 --> 01:57:34.600 Necromantic and as well as things like even Faces of Death. It's not something 1527 01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:40.239 that was a protest film in any way, but it's a cultural touch point 1528 01:57:40.239 --> 01:57:44.399 and you can at least understand what the older generation was watching when they were 1529 01:57:44.399 --> 01:57:48.159 about your age, or you know, like Salo, there's a whole scene 1530 01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:53.039 dedicated to people eating shit, and yet it's an educational film if you watch 1531 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:59.319 it for the right reasons. I love discussions like this. I mean the 1532 01:57:59.479 --> 01:58:03.039 power of all powerful films. I mean, Sallows on the Criterion collection for 1533 01:58:03.079 --> 01:58:10.159 a good reason. Yeah, thank you. Stan Stan says a Serbian film 1534 01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:14.439 pushes the limits, and that alone is why it's important. Yeah. Well, 1535 01:58:14.479 --> 01:58:17.039 I mean, you know, no two countries are the same, but 1536 01:58:17.760 --> 01:58:25.680 the working class all go through the same right crushing capitalism foot of a government 1537 01:58:26.359 --> 01:58:30.159 terrible presidents. And this ain't being political. This say't a left or a 1538 01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:36.199 right wing thing. This is just the status quo unfor Yeah, and that's 1539 01:58:36.560 --> 01:58:42.279 any any society that is capitalistic in nature is going to end up corrupted like 1540 01:58:42.359 --> 01:58:45.239 that is the definition of capitalism. It's to make more money than everyone else, 1541 01:58:45.319 --> 01:58:49.720 basically to mean you win. There there's no other endgame for it, 1542 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:54.439 which is sad. And when you think about it, the fact that we 1543 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:59.159 have people arguing against helping other people around us in the namesake of capitalism, 1544 01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:02.880 it should it was the depravity that exists in our country and in what you 1545 01:59:02.920 --> 01:59:08.640 could be telling in our stories, which is objectively as horrifying as some of 1546 01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:13.640 these extreme movies that we're talking about. There's no time in modern history that 1547 01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:18.199 the living wage from a billionaire to people like me and you. Ryan has 1548 01:59:18.279 --> 01:59:25.479 never been greater, never been greater, and it's only getting worse. And 1549 01:59:26.319 --> 01:59:33.880 maybe we'll have an American film that will shake us out of something, Anthony 1550 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:43.279 says repeatedly presses independent thought alarm. Oh man, all right, so now 1551 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.479 we've been talking about a lot of these other extreme films that we've not mentioned. 1552 01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:51.640 Anybody else in the comments want to just shotgun some names out there or 1553 01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:56.840 even some scenes that might touch on extreme cinema, but the whole film doesn't. 1554 01:59:57.840 --> 02:00:00.600 That's always fun to talk about any that. While we were talking, 1555 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:06.800 you realize that we missed. I got one Anti Christ ah, the famous 1556 02:00:06.880 --> 02:00:15.239 Dick movie. Yeah, Anti christ is an interesting one. It's uh. 1557 02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:18.399 First of all, I love Willem Dafoe, like the dude is such a 1558 02:00:18.479 --> 02:00:23.520 national treasure. He is such an incredible actor. Oh, how did I 1559 02:00:23.600 --> 02:00:27.760 not bring up anything? John Waters? I completely forgot Pink Flamingo, says 1560 02:00:27.800 --> 02:00:31.239 Reuben Villa. Another or Villa could be the one another shit eating film. 1561 02:00:31.359 --> 02:00:34.399 Yes, Pink Flamingo's. I watched that just a couple of months ago after 1562 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:39.520 the Criterion disc came out, and I remember that one being better. I 1563 02:00:39.600 --> 02:00:42.720 just did not like that one as much this time. But I will say 1564 02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:45.760 you could almost call most of John Waters' films extreme cinema one way or another. 1565 02:00:45.840 --> 02:00:48.760 They are, especially his seventies and early eighties films. He's the key 1566 02:00:48.840 --> 02:00:55.079 of the gutter. He almost took Delight as a look at this, isn't 1567 02:00:55.079 --> 02:01:00.840 it horrific? But had some social commentary to Yeah. Yeah, Mitchell brings 1568 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:06.720 up films that have actual sex in them, like Short Bus or The Bunny 1569 02:01:06.760 --> 02:01:12.079 Game is another one that's got a big reputation from that. Some of these 1570 02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:16.960 they again they've got that whole rape revenge like empathy phil built into them. 1571 02:01:17.039 --> 02:01:20.600 But then some of them are just made because why why not? I mean 1572 02:01:20.600 --> 02:01:24.600 a lot of these films simulated. Why why not do it for real? 1573 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:28.920 Yeah? I left off a lot of films that could have real sex, 1574 02:01:29.399 --> 02:01:35.359 like hardcore from Mascar video. It's a horror movie. Porno it's so wild, 1575 02:01:35.600 --> 02:01:42.079 and yes, I mean, I mean if your sheep is about porn, 1576 02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:45.680 well then don't watch it. But then you mix you know, seventies 1577 02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:49.880 gore effects with the hardcore, it's it goes there. It's it's interesting. 1578 02:01:51.479 --> 02:01:56.880 Stanzas I think Multiple Maniacs is superior to pink Flamingos, and nowadays I would 1579 02:01:56.920 --> 02:02:03.800 agree completely speak of some of these other ones. I believe one of the 1580 02:02:03.920 --> 02:02:11.920 gasperne films has an unsimulated blowjob or something like that, and I don't remember, 1581 02:02:11.920 --> 02:02:15.640 but I mean that's another one that we could literally just name any of 1582 02:02:15.640 --> 02:02:19.119 his films. Gaspernoe pretty much lives in extreme cinema in one lane or another. 1583 02:02:19.600 --> 02:02:25.439 Yeah, even the short films of Andy Warhol Ah Cuche. I mean, 1584 02:02:25.720 --> 02:02:29.960 granted a lot of people here or would probably not know about him or 1585 02:02:30.039 --> 02:02:33.640 seen him, but he actually had one called a blowjob and focused on the 1586 02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:40.000 man's face as he is getting oral pleasure. Yeah. John Demarsco brings up 1587 02:02:40.079 --> 02:02:45.760 Hannaka. He's one that you absolutely could especially his earliest stuff John Stumpes not 1588 02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:49.600 exactly extreme horror, but other very disturbing stuff. Visitor Q Sweet movie of 1589 02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:53.279 course, yes, gasperno stuff. That one you said was Love three D. 1590 02:02:53.399 --> 02:02:57.479 That's what I thought. Yeah, I believe Love had an unsimulated blowjob 1591 02:02:57.520 --> 02:03:00.039 in it. What is the the other one? I was about to say, 1592 02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:03.560 oh uh, we were talking about French extreme and he brought up Sweet 1593 02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:06.800 Movie, which reminded me one of the big ones from the nineties that was 1594 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:10.640 big for France as well was Man Bites Dog. A lot of people saw 1595 02:03:10.680 --> 02:03:15.000 that as super extreme, and that's one I am dying to get that on 1596 02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:17.880 a Blu ray or if I can't imagine how good a modern Criterion four K 1597 02:03:17.960 --> 02:03:25.079 would look at Man Bytees Dog. Yeah, that movie is something. Uh 1598 02:03:25.199 --> 02:03:30.800 yeah that it is basically a simulated documentary of a serial killer and some of 1599 02:03:30.840 --> 02:03:34.680 the just the callousness in that movie is hard to watch. That alone makes 1600 02:03:34.680 --> 02:03:39.800 it extreme to me. Stan says, Tetsuo Tetsuo is great. You've seen 1601 02:03:39.840 --> 02:03:44.079 Tetsuo. I'm sure right, I love it. I don't we're considered it 1602 02:03:44.159 --> 02:03:47.279 that extreme. I think the connect energy of the movie is something that we 1603 02:03:47.319 --> 02:03:50.720 don't see in a lot of movies. But it's overwhelming in the senses, 1604 02:03:50.920 --> 02:03:55.760 yes, yes, but I wouldn't say it's anything near Camp a Holocaust or 1605 02:03:55.800 --> 02:04:01.319 say a lot. No, it's it's really good body horror. Uh let's 1606 02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:03.520 see. I've been trying to think of some other ones, but man, 1607 02:04:03.960 --> 02:04:11.680 I think I think Takashumiki has a few audition. I actually think is short 1608 02:04:11.720 --> 02:04:15.319 film imprints from the masses of horror. I mean that movie was so shocking 1609 02:04:15.319 --> 02:04:21.119 Showtime refused to show it, right, And I think it's I think it's 1610 02:04:21.119 --> 02:04:29.720 a rough watch. A lot of abortion scenes, torture scenes, compelment alcapuncture 1611 02:04:29.920 --> 02:04:35.279 in places you shouldn't get needles. Yeah, Takashu Mike is uh, he's 1612 02:04:35.319 --> 02:04:40.279 like one of the like he's like the Jeff Franco of extreme cinema in a 1613 02:04:40.359 --> 02:04:43.600 sense because he's done so many and they all not all of them, but 1614 02:04:43.680 --> 02:04:46.039 so many of them skew towards that side. Each of the killer definitely good 1615 02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:49.319 one, the the body suspending scene and all that. Yeah, that's a. 1616 02:04:49.920 --> 02:04:55.880 That's a It's an interesting movie, that's for sure. Uh. Visitor 1617 02:04:56.000 --> 02:05:00.399 Q that's another one I have not seen in quite some time. And I'm 1618 02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:03.319 still not sure if I've seen sweet movie. I know that I may have, 1619 02:05:04.399 --> 02:05:09.640 But that's another one we don't have on Blu Ray yet either. A 1620 02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:13.399 lot of these are still waiting on a good Blu Ray upgrade, and that's 1621 02:05:13.399 --> 02:05:19.039 disappointing. You have the ability to resurrect these movies, you know, But 1622 02:05:19.399 --> 02:05:25.880 I guess it comes down to dollars and cents, dollars, cents and elements 1623 02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:30.560 for a lot of them. Sadly. Ooh, good question from Terry. 1624 02:05:30.640 --> 02:05:36.520 Would seventies era Hodrowski have some elements of extreme cinema in your opinion? Certainly 1625 02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:39.840 some elements, for sure. I don't know that i'd call any of the 1626 02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:45.560 films fully extreme, but certainly certainly some elements. I mean, Santosandre alone 1627 02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:50.239 has probably three or four scenes that would be close at least, and he's 1628 02:05:50.279 --> 02:05:54.840 got some fantastical stuff in some of his other films that is just it's an 1629 02:05:54.880 --> 02:06:01.800 acid trip essentially. I think another big maybe someone might say, is the 1630 02:06:01.880 --> 02:06:09.600 video Nasty Era of England. Yeah, but you know, I think of 1631 02:06:09.640 --> 02:06:14.880 those maybe ninety eight percent of them were just hey, they're just misinterpreted Gore 1632 02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:20.359 films. I can't reach my copy. But Stan Geezee keeps me mentioning Thundercrack. 1633 02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:24.159 He brought it up the other day as well. Yeah, that's one 1634 02:06:24.199 --> 02:06:29.680 I could see being considered. And I just finally read John Demarsco's original comment 1635 02:06:30.000 --> 02:06:33.920 Vincent Gallows brown Bunny has an unsaturated beach, and then he meant, uni, 1636 02:06:39.039 --> 02:06:42.319 oh man, silent mandible. This this is a good point too. 1637 02:06:42.359 --> 02:06:47.800 Some would say, come and see apocalyptic, apocalyptic, depressing films can be 1638 02:06:47.880 --> 02:06:51.840 seen as some of that, Like Threads certainly could be seen as an example 1639 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:58.039 of that. Threads come and see. Yeah, there's a few I'd lump 1640 02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:00.800 in there with those. Johnson. I've seen almost all the things mentioned tonight, 1641 02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:03.399 and Sweet Movie still might be the most fucked up I've sat through. 1642 02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:08.479 If you think Saalo is bad with shit, prepare yourself a sweet movie. 1643 02:07:08.640 --> 02:07:12.520 I'd say the same thing about Cuso. I watched that for the first time 1644 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:15.079 this year. Man, that is an odd movie. Man, have you 1645 02:07:15.159 --> 02:07:18.560 seen Cuso yet? No? I haven't. It's on shutter and it's the 1646 02:07:18.600 --> 02:07:23.680 one Flying Lotus. The musician directed it, and it's one of those that 1647 02:07:23.800 --> 02:07:27.640 is odd just to be odd. It feels like I don't think there's many 1648 02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:32.760 underlying political undertones or anything, because it's sort of an anthology film, which 1649 02:07:32.800 --> 02:07:36.640 is really weird for something like this. But it's God, there's some odd 1650 02:07:36.680 --> 02:07:41.880 scenes and the movie starts and within I think it's within about three minutes, 1651 02:07:41.920 --> 02:07:46.520 you're looking at just a massive amount of sperm, which is crazy to see 1652 02:07:46.520 --> 02:07:55.000 in a movie like that. Stances how about Caligula, Maybe at least some 1653 02:07:55.079 --> 02:07:58.640 elements. If Sleez is an element, then yeah, it would certainly be 1654 02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:01.640 up there. Yeah, a lot lat of films. You know, they 1655 02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:09.600 inserted a lot of hardcore scenes, especially with Caligula, and when they did 1656 02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:11.239 it at night without telling the actors they were doing it with look likes. 1657 02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:16.359 Yeah, and you know the way sex is treated in this country. I 1658 02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:22.560 guess anything with sex is extreme. That is very true. Terry says Kuso 1659 02:08:22.680 --> 02:08:24.800 was a lot of fun. May say more about me than the movie. 1660 02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:31.159 I mean, I'm so glad I watched it, but I certainly probably will 1661 02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:35.079 not watch it again. Sadly. I love that this comment just comes out 1662 02:08:35.079 --> 02:08:43.239 of nowhere. Mitchell says, fisting bestiality, any anything else about extreme cinema 1663 02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:46.840 that you want to mention tonight, I don't know what's left to say. 1664 02:08:46.960 --> 02:08:54.680 I think you shot or wat on it. I do want to say one 1665 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:58.199 more thing, and that is a word that we've not mentioned tonight, and 1666 02:08:58.239 --> 02:09:01.560 that is judgment. I don't I don't think there's any reason to judge people 1667 02:09:01.600 --> 02:09:05.800 that watch stuff like that, because people get different things out of every movie. 1668 02:09:05.880 --> 02:09:09.279 And just like I always say that every movie has been somebody's favorite movie. 1669 02:09:09.680 --> 02:09:11.720 That includes stuff like a serbian film and martyrs, and some of these 1670 02:09:13.359 --> 02:09:16.840 are meaningful and important to people, and even though they may not be to 1671 02:09:16.920 --> 02:09:20.600 you and you may see it as trash, they literally may see it as 1672 02:09:20.640 --> 02:09:26.000 something that you know, maybe it it touches on something that affects them more 1673 02:09:26.039 --> 02:09:30.359 personally because they've gone through a different experience than you have. Absolutely, the 1674 02:09:30.479 --> 02:09:35.800 judgment level on within the horror community for some of these certain films like Serbian 1675 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:41.039 Film and Cama Holocaust needs to stop. Like, you know, my dad 1676 02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:43.880 used to joke with me because I had books on serial killers. I had 1677 02:09:43.880 --> 02:09:48.479 these movies, Oh the Guy's coming for you. It's not like that. 1678 02:09:48.159 --> 02:09:52.119 I couldn't be I know a lot of these people don't know who I am, 1679 02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:54.520 and it doesn't really matter. But I could be the most. I 1680 02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:58.640 could not be the most. I don't know how to say this on almost 1681 02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:03.319 Upstate any person that I try to be. I hold doors open for old 1682 02:10:03.399 --> 02:10:07.279 ladies. I raise two kids on my own, you know, I help 1683 02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:09.880 out my parents. I work hard. I mean, that's the thing a 1684 02:10:09.960 --> 02:10:13.039 lot of people don't know. Is all this talk and all this movies we 1685 02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:16.319 show we watch. I mean I still work like forty six hours a week. 1686 02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:22.039 Yeah, I vote. I try to be a good person. I 1687 02:10:22.119 --> 02:10:24.720 you know, I so what if I wear a Serbian film shirt? Does 1688 02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:31.520 that make me, you know, a less of a person? Dead Sea 1689 02:10:31.560 --> 02:10:33.279 Life says, as you guys talk about a Serbian film, I'm editing the 1690 02:10:33.319 --> 02:10:41.840 Serbian audio for SpongeBob SquarePants for Nickelodeon Serbia. Amazing. And this is kind 1691 02:10:41.840 --> 02:10:45.439 of what a lot of these come down to, is what Stan just said. 1692 02:10:45.800 --> 02:10:48.479 Fuck the Puritans, and in all reality, fuck them all, because 1693 02:10:48.640 --> 02:10:54.239 I one thing I will wholeheartedly stand up against in any subject is as long 1694 02:10:54.279 --> 02:10:58.199 as it's legal, it should not be censored. As long as it's not 1695 02:10:58.279 --> 02:11:03.000 being broadcast for children or anything like that, it should not be censored. 1696 02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:09.239 Anything that is still being released cut is an embarrassment for humanity. We shouldn't 1697 02:11:09.279 --> 02:11:13.279 be making judgment calls for that. Sure, warn people what's in a film, 1698 02:11:13.920 --> 02:11:18.600 have that information readily available. But fuck the Puritans. See, I 1699 02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:24.279 got a art degree and so art history was prominent component of that. So 1700 02:11:24.359 --> 02:11:28.239 I'm used to discussed and discussing, you know, this type of stuff. 1701 02:11:28.279 --> 02:11:31.760 So you know, so what if I seen Caball Holocaust and serving film ten 1702 02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.399 or more times? I mean, does that make me any less of a 1703 02:11:35.479 --> 02:11:39.399 human? And the sad thing is that many people would say yes, yeah, 1704 02:11:39.640 --> 02:11:43.039 still be it. Hey, feel free to follow me on Twitter because 1705 02:11:43.520 --> 02:11:50.439 I'm sure someone will say something well. On that note, all of John's 1706 02:11:50.479 --> 02:11:54.000 information is in the description below. Please give him follow He's a great follow, 1707 02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:58.079 post all of his reviews on Twitter. He's got great taste in films, 1708 02:11:58.199 --> 02:12:01.920 and he's a smart guy. Obviously because he is a member of my 1709 02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:05.560 Patreon and a member of the discord. And if you are curious, I 1710 02:12:05.600 --> 02:12:09.680 want to say thank you to all of these people for being patrons, and 1711 02:12:09.880 --> 02:12:13.520 the link for that is in the description below. We have discussions like this 1712 02:12:13.760 --> 02:12:16.760 all literally, all the damn time. That is not an understatement. We 1713 02:12:18.159 --> 02:12:22.479 have. Somebody mentioned one in the comments earlier. Just the other day we 1714 02:12:22.479 --> 02:12:26.359 were talking about some film and it might have been dash Camp that brought it 1715 02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:28.520 up again. Yeah, and I said, I'm curious with everybody, what 1716 02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:35.000 do you think about having a film where we have a wholly unlikable lead. 1717 02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:37.800 Do you think society is ready for that? Because Dashcam, the response to 1718 02:12:37.880 --> 02:12:43.000 that movie would say lots of people think, no, they have to watch 1719 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:46.640 a film where they can like the person that they're being empathetic to. But 1720 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:50.880 those type of discussions go a long way to advancing your love for film, 1721 02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:56.720 to advancing your appreciation for humanity, and this discord is a really great place 1722 02:12:56.760 --> 02:13:00.800 for it. Anthony wants to know, how are those Beyond Meat steak tips 1723 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:03.359 that you had? Those are pretty good. I gotta think of some new 1724 02:13:03.359 --> 02:13:07.399 recipes for them, but they were pretty good. I just saw I think 1725 02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:09.520 it was Walmart the other day they're selling Beyond Meat beef jerky. Now, 1726 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.239 yeah, it's real good. My kids love the hot spices. Sounds amazing. 1727 02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:18.439 They really are. It'll get much further and cheaper then I'm gonna have 1728 02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:22.439 to go vegan. Anyways. Yeah, that's the problem is, you know, 1729 02:13:22.520 --> 02:13:24.840 I kind of cook mostly for myself, so it's a little bit easier 1730 02:13:24.880 --> 02:13:28.720 than a family every night. But dash Cam, you know, that's pretty 1731 02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:35.600 interesting because at least in terms of extreme extreme cinema, it's not, but 1732 02:13:35.960 --> 02:13:41.680 the character is extreme, especially with their political beliefs. It will I'd say 1733 02:13:41.760 --> 02:13:45.119 majority of people watch the movie jar you into hate her. I mean it's 1734 02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:50.279 very easy to but it's almost comical and fun to see her go through all 1735 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:54.880 this shit in this movie and so kind of come out on the other end. 1736 02:13:54.680 --> 02:14:01.239 It's real funny. I actually really like dash Cam and I'm harp sent 1737 02:14:01.319 --> 02:14:07.720 eighty of that character in Roly. So all right, I think that's all 1738 02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:11.239 I got tonight. We're not getting any more comment about other extreme films, 1739 02:14:11.319 --> 02:14:13.760 So thank you everybody for staying around for conversation like this. I know it's 1740 02:14:13.800 --> 02:14:18.880 not always super easy to discuss, but I think that it's nice to be 1741 02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:24.319 able to have literally like education level discussions about some of these because without it, 1742 02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:28.720 the idea of protest cinema would not get out to the masses. The 1743 02:14:28.800 --> 02:14:31.720 idea of standing up for what everybody believes in would not get outo the masses. 1744 02:14:33.399 --> 02:14:37.159 If you've never seen a Serbian film or Martyrs or High Tension or August 1745 02:14:37.279 --> 02:14:41.279 Underground, I recommend them, you know, go out there and spread stretch 1746 02:14:41.279 --> 02:14:46.119 your limit at least a little bit. John, thanks for hanging out tonight, 1747 02:14:46.159 --> 02:14:50.199 Thanks for being willing to be the voice and face of extreme cinema, 1748 02:14:50.600 --> 02:14:56.800 and hopefully you come up come back on again soon. Absolutely Thanks everybody, 1749 02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:00.600 have a good night, and we'll see you next Thursday.