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Well, hello and welcome. Thanks
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for telling a friend. That's how
we spread the word about the pirates.

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Chip, it's really close to not
doing a show tonight. Danny, Yeah,

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you're not. You're not looking great. You looking like a little sweaty

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or feverish. I'm just yeah,
I don't know what happened today because I

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got up regular time, and uh, I was working and doing my stuff

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and then I'm like man, I
was so cold I couldn't get warm,

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so I actually whipped out of space
here. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah.

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And then I like, turn on, but I don't have a fever.

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And then I'm talking to a friend
of mine and they said, you

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know, COVID's really going around,
and uh, you know you were out

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last night and blah blah blah,
and I go, I don't want to

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hear this, and they said,
well, it's not about you, just

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don't want to spread it, right, it would be polite not to spread

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it to people if you could do
that. And so I went and I

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bought a test. And the fucked
up part is I go to Walgreenes and

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they sell the test from behind the
counter. Now, oh, so now

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you have to also admity I might
have COVID and I'm I'm not, so

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now I go, I feel like
hipologue to protection. I have no idea.

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See, this is driving me fucking
insane. I mean, it's not

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like you're getting the high test migraine
medication that's over the counter, but under

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the counter I was. I was
like getting myself all pissed off because I

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go, okay, hang on a
second, now, So I'm normally they're

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on end caps, right. So
I walk in and I'm going down the

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middle aisle of the Walgreens. I
go to and I see the masks,

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and I go, all right,
the COVID test can't be far. They

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gotta be on the next end cap. It only makes sense, right,

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And that's where they were when I
bought COVID tests back in the peak of

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things. So I see a Walgreens
employee, and I don't want to ask,

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where's the COVID test because I'm thinking
your natural reaction will be to recoil

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like I have it, and I
want to make it look like I'm buying,

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like I almost in my head,
I'm going, do I say,

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I'm buying it for a neighbor?
What am I doing here? My mom?

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Yeah, you know what I mean, because I don't have I'm not

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wearing a mask, right, So
I thought, Because I mean, I

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still think and I know we've had
all the there's this big debate about COVID

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and where we duped and did we
fuck up the world? And I don't

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know. I think i'd like to. I like to think that we went

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with the best information possible at the
time. So but at the same time,

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I still think I don't know if
it was a great marketing plan where

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everybody's a little bit gun shy to
say, hey, I don't want to

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get COVID but all right, so
I don't want to say this. So

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I stand back at the beginning of
the aisle. She's at the other end

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of the aisle, and I said, excuse me, where would I find

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COVID test? She sat up front
by the register. I said, right

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up front where I can grab it. She goes, no, you gotta

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ask for it. Someone like come
on, man. So now I'm gonna

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ask for a COVID test. And
there's a lady, an older woman,

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and she's got her purse and she's
putting her chains back, and I'm standing

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really far away again because I'm gonna
ask for a COVID and the kid behind

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the counter is making eye contact with
me, like, hey, sure,

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what can I get you? Know? What can I do for you?

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Can I help you? So then
I get up there and I said,

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uh, I want to get a
COVID test, and he said, all

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right, which brand? Then I
go, I don't know, and he

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goes, all right, well there's
two brands here. I go, could

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you tell me the difference between the
brands. He goes no, I said,

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then I don't care whatever one you're
here. I'm like, that's a

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dumbuch fucking thing. You can say
to me, which brand COVID test do

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I want? Unless you got the
answer. Unless you got the answer.

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It's not like I'm asking for Marlborough's
cigarettes because I gotta have the the non

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filters. Do you know what I'm
saying? I need some Marborough reds?

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You No, I don't use them
all the time, only smoke reds.

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Oh. It was driving, I
mean, and I could, and so

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I'm not feeling great. I'm irritable, so I'm like, well, fuck

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it? Do I not? So
I go home, I do the test,

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and I mean, I got that
thing up. I'm touching brain and

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I'm not supposed to touch brain.
But I have a deviated septum, so

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I gotta go around from when I
got punched in the face. It's up

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there. It's bad. I mean, I have like an entire it like

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actually arches out like this round,
like you gotta really go up. Like

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there are times I'll roll tissue up
to try to pull shit out if it

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gets stuck, like you need like
a hook Yeah, I'm not kidding,

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like Captain hooking, you're picking his
nose. Yes, hey, I gotta

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get up there. Yes, this
is true. I got a blockhead,

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a fucking unbelievable so I gotta go
around. I'm sneezing because it things.

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My eyes were water. I can't
see. I think I fuck up the

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first You need a second pot.
Yeah, as you know, I did

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the math, so I uh.
So I do the first test and I'm

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like, I don't know if I
screwed this up. I can see,

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like all of a sudden, the
blue lines washing away because the liquids going.

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I go, I don't know if
I sucked this up. So I

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take the second test out. I
do it. Now the adhesive strip rips

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completely off, so now it won't
stay close. So I got a bottle

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of tequila holding it close. This
is how my life's going today. I

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have shot. You know that that
breakfast bar in my place, I have

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the booze on the end of it. I just grabbed the bottle of tequila

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and I put it on. You
know what. It's been a hell of

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a day, you know, But
since I have been tequila here, it

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wasn't a bad day. I got
up, I was doing stuff. I

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had a bunch of, like you
know, just just work related things that

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I just do that are behind the
scenes that have nothing to do with anything.

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A lot going on here. Well, there's just a lot of behind

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the scenes shit. So I'm doing
that. I'm I'm emailing stuff to clients.

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I'm going back and forth and doing
all the social I have U something

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I'm scheduling through the rest of the
day. I've got this. I do

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an hour of work with my son
on homework for school because it's a different

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type of school where he is,
and it's all this shit. So so

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now I got I was fine,
and then I when I didn't feel well,

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I was laying on it. I
was like, I'm gonna laying in

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a catch I should want probably,
So I ate and I laid down,

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and I got a phone call and
I started talking to per saying, you

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may want to go get a COVID
test. I would get a COVID test,

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So I do that. Come back. That's where we're at. Kiel

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a bottle fifteen minutes. No red
line on either test, No, not

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even a faint pink line. It's
like Okay, I'm good. I call

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you and I don't know what it
is. Man, I mean you were

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telling me the other day you had
a stomach issue. Yeah during the show.

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Yeah, I know, I know. I get here. I'm like,

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man, what's going on? So
I had a stomach issue. But

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then I thought, while I've been
eating this lentil salad that I made lentil

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bean salading it out with those games
podcast people for two, Oh, I

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haven't. I watched the documentary called
Game Changer about a UFC UFC athlete and

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other athletes who went to plant based
diets and just felt better and more energy.

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Yeah, like TV twelve almost,
I guess I don't. I'm not.

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I don't know much about TB twelve. I know nothing about TV twelve,

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to be quite honest with you.
It's mostly plant based protein. It's

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so that's so I was go,
you know, want, I want to

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feel better and I'd like to do
this, And so I just thought quietly

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without going, hey everybody, I'm
gonna be one of these does play based

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because that's not it. I fucking
love a burger. I want a piece

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of chicken. Would I eat less? Yes? Well, I put a

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little spinach in an egg wrap in
the morning. Yup, tomatoes. Sure,

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but I wouldn't mind. And I
saw this, I thought, why

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not? What what the what the
fuck? Try it? Yeah, if

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it makes you better, who cares? Right? So that was that's what

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I was thinking. But the lentil, so I made like a lentil salad,

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and I was supposed to go five
days. I think I eat so

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much. They only went three.
But I mean this morning it was like,

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fuck California mudslides. Yeah, yeah, it was California munthslides. That

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was exactly right. Like I thought
I was done. I wasn't done.

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But even that, I thought that, no big deal on that, and

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anybody by this point, I don't
know what it is. And then I

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go, maybe it was like a
residual from the bills stuff. I don't

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know if I got like a lot
of stretch going on. I have no

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idea. I think a lot of
people are tired right now because after when

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changes, well, yeah, that
people are back to school. Routines have

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changed with this guy named Ji right
now, patterns are changing. But he's

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right, patterns are changing. He's
right. I'm exhausted and I haven't really

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done a hell of a lot.
I'm just really exhausted. I'm working out

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more. Tell you what, though, I had a good time with bTB

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yesterday we did. You left at
the right time, Billy, Yeah,

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you left at the right I was
listening even in the car, and I

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had to turn it. The next
thing I know, I go, I

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need something easy. So I went
over not serious to like one of their

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easy listening like Blend or something like
that, and they go, fuck it,

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I'm coming back, and like back
to Blend. I couldn't believe it

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was happening. bTB would fire pizza
grill in the mall Grease where we were

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hanging out, and I gotta tell
you, they did a great job.

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They did a great job. It's
a lot of fun. If you're a

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Bills fan, get out there.
If you're in any fan of any sports

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team. The food is great.
There's not a bad seat in the house.

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Oh there is welcoming to everybody.
Yeah, you live in Western New

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York. It's gonna be primarily Bills
fans. Let's not be assholes about it.

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I mean real quick though. Yeah, so after the game ends,

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of course, the place is like
you stayed all the way. I stayed

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the whole time you did. Oh
dude, I was gonna take a chance

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at miss any of the actually be
batbs. How about when he plunks it

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off in big banks in everybody's like
thought, I thought it went. I

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thought it deflected back because you can't
tell. Yeah, And the people were

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like, oh it's good, Oh
thank god. Now what But I'm still

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like walking around like everybody celebrating,
like I just got to celebrate until we

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win this game. But after it
ended, right, there's this guy waiting

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for it to go to a big
black dude, right, just funny guy.

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And he's got this big, like
suburban type truck with like these matted

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rims and stuff. Right, and
he and he and I are like parking

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right next to each other. My
wife and I walking out, he's walking

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out. He goes, I'm an
Eagles fan. I'm getting the fuck out

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of here right, Well, maybe
you want to drown your stars in a

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flaming hot cheeto chicken Sammy. We
talked to Stephanie who makes all that stuff

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over their last night phenomenal fried chicken
coated in flaming hot cheetos, lettuce,

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tomato, onion, served with fries, that's a special. This month,

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I had the Hollopeenial Burger. Highly
recommend it so good. And of course

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on Sundays you can go in there
and get some brunch from ten to noon

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before the kickoff for the NFL.
And they've got breakfast pizza you know,

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buy one, get one, Mimosas
and Bloody Mary's. And of course they

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have that one that deal that goes
on all the time Tuesday. Yeah,

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it's it's a large, thin crust, well wood fired, wood fired pizza

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with one topping for ten bucks Tuesdays
and Fridays. A great pizza. My

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wife and I've had three so far. You will find them in the in

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the mall of Grease Ridge. I
was very disappointed in what happened last night,

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but at the same time, I
go, this is kind of awesome

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in a way, and this is
terrible. I don't like seeing guys like

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like Aaron Rodgers. I was hoping
that it was tape up the ankle and

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maybe you don't play the rest of
this game. It's come back. Yeah

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right, Well it looked like a
hero. Well, now you got Aaron

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Rodgers out of the way. He's
gone for the season. It was the

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achilles and he saw his calf.
They talked about the calf will vibrate,

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you know, and it usually starts
with the calf strain for guys, which

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he had, and then the achilles
it wiggles down. Yeah, before you

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know what you're like, I say
it, Thomas, whether your achilles sliding

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up and down your calf. It
just it looked terrible. So he's gone

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for the season. And you know, look, that defense gave them fits

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last year. They're a little bit
better this year because everybody's got more experience

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and stuff, both front end back
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and Greg Connor said before the game, and I put it on a on

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a piece that I put out today
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It was basically like, I think
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make Josh have to do things and
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And I think the Jets win.
And it's the first game of the

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season, so maybe we get this
bullshit out of the way. He sat

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there, he looked like someone shot
his puppy, Josh Allen, And when

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he said things like it's all on
me, it was all on him turnovers,

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he took his medicine like a man. And I gotta be honest with

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you. I have never as a
Bills fan. I have never watched an

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entire country Bills fans included all blame
one guy in Lockstep yeah and like Danilovsky,

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Kyle what's his name? All these
I stayed away from the local media

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because they were all like full of
crap before the game. I'm not gonna

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listen to him after. Why do
you do this, dude? Why how

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do you do this? Dude?
Dude? Was I wrong? Was I

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wrong? Billy? Was I wrong? You get angry about stuff I get

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asked, dude, No, you
get accurate. You have you have an

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ax to grind you do. I'm
gonna bring something up. Go ahead,

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a little bit and a little bit
and a little bit. I'm gonna bring

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something you're gonna bring up. I'm
gonna bring something up because I saw something

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that no, not, No,
I didn't, I did not. I

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didn't look at anything. I got
be honest with you. I watched ten

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minutes of ESPN in the morning to
see they did this whole thing on Hey

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man, everybody ships all over dak
Scott in the preseason. Why aren't we

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calling out Josh Allen. He has
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But this is the good and the
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what you get with this kind of
a maverick. I get it. He

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should learn, he should know.
But if he connected on one of those

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passes and they win that game,
he's a hero. And I think that

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everybody who is of that personality has
at some point in their lives gone too

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far trying to fix a situation,
no matter what it was, take it

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away from a sport, put it
into life. We've all been there,

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and we've all gone, I'll never
do this again. And we find ourselves

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in a similar situation and do it
comfortable because we think that we can fix

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it. I got that. It's
all us And as they said, sometimes

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he's got to know when to take
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happened, Danny. And you tell
me if I'm right or wrong in this,

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because I am not into sports the
way you are. You go so

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deep, you say shit that I
go, it's it's fucking it's acoustic music

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in way it's classical. I don't
get it. I think that that he

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was getting frustrated last night with that
defense, and he was getting impatient and

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he wanted to make something happen.
He's Josh Allen. It's a big game,

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it's a big stage, a lot
of pressure, a lot of talk

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leading up to this one. He's
got the big contract, he's the franchise

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guy. The Bills have not been
this good in a long time, or

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not been expected to be this good. They were very good last year,

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they were very good this season before
that. So I think in his mind

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he was getting impatient and he was
like, well, I'm going to make

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this happen, right, And that's
the bad way to be. Take what

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they're giving you, make right right. That's what when Bill Belichick decided to

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pivot to Tom Brady from Drew bled
Sow. The knock on Bledsoew was that

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he had incredible arm strength. He
was amazing. He couldn't run, but

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he had incredible arm strength. And
guys like Parcels and then after that Pete

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Carroll would rely on that arm strength
and it was high risk, high reward,

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and it became more risk than reward. And here comes Brady, and

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Brady was gonna do everything Belichick told
him, which was just take whatever they

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give you and be patient, and
it would frustrate the hell out of Brady.

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But at the end of the day, Brady listened to him. And

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last night, and I'll credit the
guys from hashtag Sports and Cover one both

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said this, They go, guys
were open. Don't blame the offensive coordinator.

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We went back and watched the film. Guys were open. Josh was

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like, no, damn it,
I'll throw the ball up. Yeah,

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and it was on Hallet. That's
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Everybody, Bills fans, national media, everybody was like, it's on

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one, dude. And you know
who else said it? Greg Conners.

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I don't know. I don't know
what local media. I was just I'm

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sure they didn't they didn't know,
but they did though, but it didn't

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pay too much attention to them because
I said, like, during the preseason

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ago, we got a problem and
the local media was tweeting out the fact

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that the Bills weren't practicing very well
over at fish they were they were,

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and then the preseason kid and I'm
like, how do you just erase that?

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You can't? And they all did
because I think that in the air

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of social media. They don't want
to hear it from the fans, and

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I get that, but at the
end of the day, you gotta be

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you gotta be true that you have
to have a loyalty to the truth here.

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And the loyalty was they're gonna go
I thought they're gonna be get beat

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by the Jets and Aaron Rodgers.
They got beat by Zach Wilson. Actually

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they got beat by Josh Allen.
Yeah, and it was Josh Allen.

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Josh did, Aaron Rodgers did for
the entire season, and by the way,

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and by but by the way,
though, Dan Orlovski, who a

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lot of people love it, I
think he should be in the booth.

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They'll be in the booth next Monday
night for one of the two games.

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He said. He goes, look, we're paying if you're the Buffalo Bills,

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you're paying this guy two hundred fifty
million dollars to f up and not

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so many words I know. He
goes, it's time for you to grow

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up. Yeah, but maybe maybe
this is it. This is what I'm

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saying, Like, Look, they
lost the opener. We said that against

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Cincinnati, we said that against my
might, but they lost the opener in

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against Pittsburgh, and so they never
really came out of that. They won

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some easy games and when it came
they lost the Jacksonville but they won some

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big ones when it when it mattered, and look you go, he'll play

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up to his competition. The Bills
a couple of I think when Bledsoe was

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there, they the opening game,
they beat the Patriots at home with Brady.

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They're on the cover of Sports Illustrated. They win their first Sam somebody

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had told you one of those two
teams is gonna go and win the Super

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Bowl, you would have thought it
was us. It ended up the team

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that got beat thirty one. Nothing
that was it. So I mean,

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look it's early, and that's why
I'm saying that maybe all of this I'm

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holding blessing your lips to God podcast
actually made the Jets in a way somewhat

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beatable. I thought the defense looked
pretty good last night. I know that

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they were able to they didn't stop
the run at certain times it was important,

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but still now okay, So now
Aaron Rodgers is gone, and that's

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like a an NFL butterfly effects.
So now some other team's gonna step in

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there in their way now and take
that spot in the whole AFC now kind

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of changes around that because Rogers he
added instant credibility. He would have blown

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the bills out last night. And
if you think Alan would have gone toe

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to toe with him, he would
have done more of what he did last

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night than he did against the Jets. It's more hero ball and we can't

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have it. And hopefully finally this
will sink in with him after everybody,

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clude probably his mother, going dude, you've got to grow the f up

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and just wait. Your mom ever
said it to you? No, she

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ever had to. Oh my god, my mother. I'm not bragging about

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it. My mother never mother never
had did, because you're fucking boring,

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that's why. Yeah, well you're
right, you know, I don't know

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that my mom ever did either.
I wasn't in the Mira Animal. I

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was like the exact opposite. My
father goes, Danny, you are the

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exact opposite of me as a child, So you can only imagine my father

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was like, yeah, I like
to hang out right like that guy on

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stage or Tommy, that guy.
I want to hang out with that guy,

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not you. Yes, that's exactly
right, that's my father. Yeah,

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well you know what, if you're
if you're feeling a little low and

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you want to get feeling better,
get over to Leo's. They have the

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Pearl after school or school lunch snacks
for kids. I would have camped out

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there last night if they were open. You know what, it becomes one

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of these things where like when you're
stressed out. I love eating cookies and

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things. Oh yeah, but I
eat a lot of them, and Leo's

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has some of the best. You
can get twelve packs of Colleges, all

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made from scratch right in Leo's Bakery. And we went back there. They

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it is. It's phenomenal. Everything's
operation, very clean, professional organized.

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You can choose from chocolate chip,
marble sprinkle or oatmeal raising cookies. And

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while you're there you can pick up
meals to go from Leo's Delhi. And

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remember Leo's has fresh baked French bread
for just two dollars a loaf every day.

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What's the best thing about Leo's Everything, Billy, That's right on desk

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Batch Drive in East Rochester and open
every day. I did notice, like

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you were saying to me earlier,
when I'm going I just not feeling well,

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like good, You're burning at both
ends. And there is a lot

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that goes on one of those Josh
Allen personalities. Billy, you go to

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extremes, you think so oh yeah, you think temperance. And now our

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word for this quarter is Josh Allen. Well right now, I mean,

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what am I gonna do? I
get it and I want and look,

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you're doing well though, man,
yes, doing well. People come up

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to be going, man, Billy, he hit the lottery. I don't

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know if he hit the lottery,
but he's doing well well. I got

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a call today from a guy.
Uh. I'll give him a shout out.

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His name is Tom Rickey. Maybe
you know Tom Uh, great American.

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Yeah yeah, I thought his last
name was Ricchi. And I think

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I offended him once because I said, but Tom is a big personality,

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fun guy. Uh has a beautiful
family and Uh calls me up and I

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and we're not real close or anything. We've you know, touchpas from smiling.

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He just called me out of the
blue just to say I'm loving what

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you're doing. And I'll tell you
what that means a lot. Uh,

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And it's very cool and I love
what we're doing here. I absolutely love

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it. But it is something that
that is an all day affair. For

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me, It's an all day affair, yeah, you know, And I

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think, el, what do you
mean? Yeah, but here's supposed I

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like it. I like working,
I enjoy that stuff. I enjoy what

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I what you do? I mean? So they say there are certain aspects

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of it, maybe I don't love
all of it, but ah, that's

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terrible. I but so I think
i'd probably you know, I'm getting a

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little burned out. This is my
thing that that was why I was like

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tonight man. But on the other
hand, there's other stressor things, you

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know, like with my kids and
stuff. I mean, and I'll I'll

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bring this to you a little bit
over something that I was going to bring

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up. But I will say that
a lot. I've said this on the

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podcast many times. Life is never
going to stop coming at you, and

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people are going to say things about
you. And I think most of us,

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most of our suffering in life is
the Buddhists would say, is from

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our wanting of something else but not
but not being able to get it,

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or miss feeling as though we can't
get it, missed expectations right, So

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expectations right but so, or or
that people are seeing us the wrong way

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and all that. So I have
really worked very hard on myself to not

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let those things bother me. And
it's been decades of that, you know.

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I mean from comments when I was
on the radio, from people would

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say you suck. I even had
a friend of mine and write me recently,

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go man, I read a bunch
of stuff about you online and all

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my I guess everybody feels about you
the way I do. And I think

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my reaction was like, it's nice
to know you're not alone. And I

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think that disappointed the person. I
don't feel like getting down into the muck.

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I don't want to hear what people
say. I don't give a fuck

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to be quite honest with you,
like I literally do not. But then

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there are other things where there are
people that I care deeply about, and

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those would be in particular my kids. I mean, I love my children

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eventually, but I did assign papers
for my youngest son in particular to move

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out of state with his mom,
and I thought at the time that was

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the best situation as to why I
did the things I did or decisions that

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I made. Uh, those were
decisions, you know. Some people say,

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oh, it was weak, you
should try to work things out.

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I felt like things were at an
impast I'm not going to get into any

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of that stuff. You made the
best decision you could with the information I

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thought I did. Yeah, I
thought it. That's all you could do.

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You have the dinner guide. But
that was my thing. So and

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I'm not, but there are people, and I gotta be I don't want

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anybody to think like this is not
somebody people love to commits, right,

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So yeah, well somebody will hear
this and they'll run back to their mom

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and say he was saying stuff about
you. I'm not, but I know

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that there were people that were close
to my children that did say very negative

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things to my children about me.
And I I know this because they told

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me. And in particular, one
of them told me, who just has

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I mean, just has the inability
to lie? This guy just can't.

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Yeah, just just it's just him, So you know, and those are

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the type the things that can really
bother you. And so my only answer

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back to that was how do you
feel? And the person the kid said

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to me, I don't want to
discuss it, and I don't agree,

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and I said, great, that
was it, and I never brought it

408
00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:17,119
up again and a lot of but
you can hold the grudge. You could

409
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,000
be angry about that. And the
only thing that I thought in the time

410
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:25,400
was the one thing you can always
be in someone's life is consistent as possible.

411
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,160
I hope that my youngest son doesn't
think I said move move away from

412
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,839
New York, because I don't care. That's not true at all. I

413
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,400
thought in the situation that would be
what was best. I think that,

414
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,359
but being consistent, that's why you
know right now he's in a different style

415
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,599
of school. He's mom and I
talked. I think he's a genius talk.

416
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,400
I'll give him New York kid in
Alabama. Dude, he's on the

417
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,440
track to be a valedictorian, so
maybe it will skip ninth grade. I

418
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,039
said, you know, you get
all your teeth, of course, so

419
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,119
you know we're trying to you don't
do that that sort of thing and put

420
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,279
put the time in. But I'm
listening to you last night, and is

421
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:08,079
it true what you you have made
reference to this a few times? Okay?

422
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,359
Is it true that you have a
list of people that have wronged you

423
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,839
in your life? Do you seriously
have a legitimately a legitimate is it in

424
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,039
your head or is it written down
in twenty eighteen. I wrote it down.

425
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,079
It was twenty eighteen, and I
wasn't growing up. I don't realized.

426
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:30,000
Listen to me. Listen. I've
said some things over the last few

427
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:33,319
podcasts that I came back. I'm
like, why the hell did I say

428
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,880
that? Well that I don't.
I don't care if it's not what I

429
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,359
think. No, I know that. I know I'm saying in general for

430
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,119
people listening, they're gonna think I'm
a crazy nut. Well, yeah he's

431
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,680
a crucier. Okay, no,
no, no, no, but he's

432
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,759
a good person, like you're human. Yeah. I don't. But in

433
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:49,400
twenty eighteen, I had a motivational
list. This is your motivation. I

434
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,599
had a motivation. In fact,
if I look, I think I may

435
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,680
still have it. No, I
had a motivational list and all the people.

436
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Not that that people wronged me,
but people told me either I couldn't

437
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,119
do something, I wasn't getting up
at doing something. Some of these people

438
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,720
didn't deserve to be I believe,
didn't deserve to be in the positions they

439
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,000
were in. Yes, and they
got their come up, And I think

440
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,839
it still comes out in you a
little bit it does, and I'm ashamed

441
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,519
of that. Well the work and
pray to be better. No, no,

442
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,079
no, because I'm ashamed of what
I said last night. Okay,

443
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,599
I'm not take that away. I
know what you're referring to. Yeah,

444
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,599
I know what you're referring to.
Back then, I would have wanted to

445
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:26,400
do that. But let me just
say what I think. I think that

446
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,000
when sometimes when we're talking sports and
stuff, I think you feel like you

447
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:36,720
were so overlooked and discarded by certain
people in the business that there were times,

448
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:40,279
like even last night, you were
saying stuff that it was like three

449
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,519
or four deep in this coach that
coach, and I'm like, most most

450
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,319
people aren't going to get it,
but I know where it's coming from,

451
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,440
right, and I don't give a
shit. I just like and I just

452
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,079
like a top. Kevin kept like
interrupting it squirrel, and then the whole

453
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,759
like, and I lose my train
of thought. I was getting like like

454
00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,240
frustrating. He was trying to bring
it back to something right, to make

455
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,559
it relative whatever it doesn't The camera
fell down, Okay, and well that

456
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,720
was me. I knocked the fucking
but you gotta see this thing. I

457
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:11,480
gotta tape around it, but it's
gonna work. I'm going fuck it.

458
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,319
It works better the one that's on, Danny, look at that. It

459
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:18,400
works perfect safe. But the all
I would say to you is, see,

460
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,440
that's the thing is I always feel
like because I've been there, and

461
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,480
everybody listening to this has at some
point been there, and vengeance is better

462
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,839
than anger because it gives you a
little innovation. Oh yeah, and you're

463
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,000
gonna do and it's a little bit
better. And that's climbing the emotional scale.

464
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,799
And you can't get to come on, Dan, be positive. Fuck

465
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,559
that, nobody can be. Can't
do that. But you can't get a

466
00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:42,000
positive, but you can get a
little bit better, right, you can

467
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,680
go a little bit better. And
what I would say is Michael Jordan had

468
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,079
a nephew list. I understand,
you know, and I'm not saying I

469
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:52,599
have an aphew list, But I
think that that just keeps you like angry.

470
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,559
And I've been the same way I've
been. Fuck it, I'll do

471
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,039
it myself. And didn't I even
say that o times many times on the

472
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:04,799
bingo board. And I think that
this is evident of the evidence of the

473
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:11,480
same thing. However, I don't
feel I'm as angry like I look,

474
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,119
I could be as angry as me. No, no, no, no,

475
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:17,359
no, as angry as angry as
I have been in the past,

476
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,880
in the past, the same about
myself. I don't feel like like for

477
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,680
this whole thing. There are rumors
about why I'm here and why I'm not

478
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,240
over on a radio station, there's
a lot of rumors. People love to

479
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,440
talk. They loved the first episode
was answers. They got it. All

480
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:37,799
these people are geniuses. I know
the truth these and my thing is a

481
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,559
lot of the host talk shows.
But all I did was but my thing

482
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,480
was I will put my head down
and just go. But it doesn't matter.

483
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,240
That's just noise. Those people aren't
going to be paying my bills,

484
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,519
and they don't give a shit.
And you're in today's thought and you're not,

485
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,799
and nobody really thinks about you as
much as when we say well,

486
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,559
everybody will think. No, they
won't. They may look at it for

487
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
a second and maybe they'll laugh at
you, But believe me, they've got

488
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,519
a ship ton of other stuff.
Because we're all selfish and we're all self

489
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,799
center. You're really not another people's
minds as much as you think they are.

490
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,279
So it's your own narcissism that makes
you think that they all so when

491
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,119
even with this anger, I'm going
to show them, why don't you show

492
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,720
you? Why don't you love you? And go? You know what,

493
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:19,279
You're worthy of being the best,
and you're worthy of being heard, and

494
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,880
you're worthy of being and stop this
other stuff. And I only say that

495
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,599
because I think that so many people
are exactly where I sort of felt like

496
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,960
you were last night. I sometimes
still go to and believe me as a

497
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,200
hothead. You've seen me. You
have seen me, Yes, blow the

498
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,200
fuck up at people and scream and
do all that stuff. You don't want

499
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,759
more animals reth And at the at
the other end of the day, what

500
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,559
good does it do? It doesn't
none. It just makes things worse,

501
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
of course it does. You'll start
walking the eggshell. Yes, they don't

502
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,279
want you want Jimmy. You want
a Jimmy Fallon article written about you.

503
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,039
I don't know if I look,
I can't say one way or the other.

504
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:56,160
But I believe that the less of
that article is real than than the

505
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,880
majority of it. I really do. However, that doesn't mean that there

506
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,400
wasn't a moment somewhere that somebody had
an uncomfortable moment or was right, it

507
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,880
happens, I think, what it
is? You don't want that? Yeah,

508
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,440
it's like that, I've let him
down. Oh oh no, And

509
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,720
then it just spiles, it gets
it goes in through your head and cycles

510
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,119
and cycles and cycles. Before you
know it, you're more further removed from

511
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,200
that person than you should be because
of your own head. Right, And

512
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960
that's all I'm And that was all
I was thinking. And I was thinking

513
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,880
about it today, even with my
kid and stuff like that, and I

514
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,920
go, you know, I hope
he never feels this way. And I

515
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920
know people have said this, and
I thought, the only thing I can't.

516
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,160
I can't. You can't control anybody
else, no matter what somebody says.

517
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,799
And we're all reactive, but when
we get up and we're just reactive,

518
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,200
that's where we fail as human beings. You can't just be reactive.

519
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,319
You've gotta get up and realize it's
going to come at you and stay where

520
00:31:48,359 --> 00:31:49,720
you are, right, stay where
you are and see it for what it

521
00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:55,960
is and realize sometimes what's coming out
and somebody else has not a goddamn thing

522
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,279
to do with you, right,
absolutely, But it's hard, Yeah,

523
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,920
you're because you're a rational mind,
actually guide your rational mind, and you

524
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,039
have to remember in these moments to
stop thinking. Switch, let the rational

525
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,599
mind guide the irrational because the irrational
mind's always gonna go running right right.

526
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,200
You got those two animals fighting in
your mind, but you gotta switch and

527
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,920
let the other animals take the lead. I would tell people to daydream.

528
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,359
Daydream as big as you can.
Think of exactly what you want. Think

529
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
of everything you want in life,
all of it. Think of it,

530
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:28,799
that's all. Don't think of how
don't is it? I'd have no idea.

531
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,559
I want a lot of wives.
Okay, he dropped big. I

532
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,599
want a lot of it, I
think like. But I would say dream

533
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,640
big, and don't put the rock
and picture yourself in a stream and it's

534
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,480
just running. Man, it's leading
right to where you want to go.

535
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:50,039
But just don't put rocks in there
going. Oh but but that'll never happen

536
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,319
to me. Who's to say?
Go with the positive thought doesn't mean shit?

537
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,519
How do you think some of the
these people got there? Ever?

538
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,759
Look at somebody and go, how
did they get that? They didn't deserve

539
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:02,160
that, they didn't do that,
But yet they're happy. Things just seem

540
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,559
to happen for them. They're they're
positive. Even when things go a little

541
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,200
you know, left, they seem
to be able to swing it back.

542
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:13,720
Yeah, because it's all up here. It's all in your head, and

543
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:16,000
that's where most of it's lived.
And even with these other people and things,

544
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:20,400
whether it's somebody saying something to my
I can't control that. No matter

545
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960
what we say. There's no assertion, there's none. You can't assert something

546
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,359
on somebody else. No, No, you can't, you really can't.

547
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:30,640
Can't. And as much as it
feels like they're keeping me down there,

548
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,119
nobody. Ultimately, at the end
of the day, I am the designer

549
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,519
of my own deskin. You got
it. You can also ask and future

550
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,880
you can be the designer of your
own beard. If you get a little

551
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,160
manscaped Danny. Yeah, I have
the little weird trimmer, so nice,

552
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,480
keep you nice, you will keep
you smooth using the shower manscaped. Well,

553
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:50,319
that's what I love is the water, the little light and the light.

554
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,799
If you're gonna go down and do
the lawnmower, right, you get

555
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,519
the lawnmower down there, You get
the beard trimmer, you get the weed

556
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,920
whacker, get the whole package.
You can get the whole package, who

557
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,559
package, and you can get twenty
percent office the code bill twenty plus.

558
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:06,480
They're gonna send you like two bottles
of body wash, yeah, body wash,

559
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:07,760
and they really take care of you. And you get the little like

560
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,719
plugs too little, oh yeah yeah
yeah. Like a lot of people just

561
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,880
send you the cord, they send
you the actual plugs. Would annoys the

562
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,519
shit out of me now, and
I love that by about Manscape. They

563
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:22,000
send you the actual plug, So
your USB port cord goes into the plug,

564
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:28,599
plug goes into that's right, and
you get twenty percent off Manscape dot

565
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,599
Com twenty percent off with the code
Bill twenty So there's something very funny.

566
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,360
And Kevin actually sent this to me
and I didn't. I didn't see it,

567
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,880
and I have not listened to it, to be honest with you.

568
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:44,800
But a bar in Wisconsin where Green
Bay happens to be in Wisconsin, and

569
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,400
I don't know if this was a
green Bay bar or not, but they

570
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:54,440
were having a h if the Bills
beat the Jets. I think they were

571
00:34:54,519 --> 00:35:00,719
buying your drinks. Okay, let's
see what this. People showed up at.

572
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,800
The people were coming out out and
then when Aaron Rodgers got hurt four

573
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,039
plays into the game, they you
just hear this enormous cheer go up in

574
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:14,320
the bar and last night, yeah, I know, Oh my god,

575
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,159
I like to play. I'm almost
embarrassed. This one guy's like dah,

576
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,760
a few Rogers get out that cart
and suck it Like whoa, there there

577
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,760
was that there the fuck you go
change your tampa. You guy's wife sitting

578
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:34,719
right next to if you go,
you got a yeast infection. I'm like,

579
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,719
oh my god. All right,
so here, let me see if

580
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,199
I can pull this story up because
this was I started to watch it and

581
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:43,679
it made me laugh. Personal,
I mean, I'm not I'm nothing.

582
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,679
Here we go, We're just gonna
keep going. Another condition is Aaron Rodgers

583
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,199
must start the game, but the
rules says we're just gonna keep going.

584
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,920
Another condition is Aaron Rodgers must start
the game, but the rules say nothing

585
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,239
about him having to finish it.
This is when he gets hurt. Wild

586
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,679
roar when Rodgers leads the game hurt
in the first quarter. So we fancy

587
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,440
it's nothing personal. I mean,
I'm not necessarily opposed to Rodgers, but

588
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:12,559
tonight I'm thinking with my wallow said
still, I'm going to say they'll be

589
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,880
flying high regardless of the outcome,
because after Sunday's game they're in love.

590
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:20,239
I think we can work around that, especially after Jordan Loves from all Right,

591
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,679
so Jordan Love wins, they're all
happy. This is in Wisconsin.

592
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:29,239
They're going crazy and this story the
news is there throughout the game. So

593
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,840
they're doing this package throughout the game. So let's continue to listen yesterday.

594
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:39,519
I'm not too down in the dumps
after that. So and the mood has

595
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,159
changed considerably. That is because the
Jets free drinks. If the Jets lose,

596
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,639
free drinks. If the Jets lose, Aaron Rodgers has to start the

597
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:53,039
game free drinks if the Jets lose. Just won the game on a long

598
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:58,480
touchdown in overtime. You could take
a look. This is the reaction from

599
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,159
a bar where people are real the
bar tabs they've been racking up all night,

600
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:07,000
thinking, certainly with Rogers hurt,
the bar was gonna be paying that

601
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:09,239
tab. It is setting in they
were gonna have to go to the bar

602
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:15,480
and pay that tab. That's where
we're at. This offer is going to

603
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,840
be an effect for the for another
twelve games. This season. As long

604
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,000
as the Jets and Packers are not
playing at the same time. This Jets

605
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:28,119
lose you in promotion is an effect
Tonight, Bill and Natalie the House one

606
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,840
didn't take your chances, so it
was always the possibility. Yeah, it

607
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:39,079
did do this. Do this?
Fans kind of deserve it for cheering for

608
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:45,199
a Packer's Hall of Famer and a
Super Bowl champion and four time MVP to

609
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,000
get injured. I don't think that
they were cheering for the injury bill as

610
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,519
much as they were cheering for their
odds of having a free night of booths

611
00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:55,159
on the house. So they were
gonna have to pay for it. It

612
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,880
was a thought at least when Rogers
got hurt. I have a feeling that

613
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,159
come tomorrow morning, a lot of
these folks are gonna wake up unhappy about

614
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:06,559
the bar time towns to pay,
and unhappy that some of them showed up

615
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:10,719
on video clapping and waving at the
screen when a Packer's legend got Maybe how

616
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,960
much they decided to drink when they
thought the bar tap was on the housebo

617
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:25,960
hej thank you very much. A
wild ride from start to finish. Mean

618
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:32,119
to laugh at others misfortune that misfortune. That's funny. That is great.

619
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:37,039
It's a barn in Wisconsin and Jets
lose, you win. So they're doing

620
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:39,480
it for the next twelve games.
Okay, that's cool. I mean they're

621
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,280
willing to do it. But Aaron
Rodgers has to start the game, yes,

622
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,639
and so he's get stuff of the
season. This guy cash in.

623
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,599
Good for him? Do you know
that? Last night over because of Rogers,

624
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,280
right, a lot of people wanted
to like get a mulligan with fan

625
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,920
Duel and Draft Kings and all these
because there's all these like you know,

626
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,440
gambling sites that you could go online
and forty four different states now and they

627
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,559
said, well, look we should
get a mulli good for that, and

628
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,679
people writing articles like, no,
it's called gambling for a reason. It's

629
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:12,639
the NFL, you know what you're
getting into tough crap. So good for

630
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:14,960
this guy. Well, I think
that one of the things we don't like,

631
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,440
we don't think about, is injuries
part of the game. It is

632
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,480
unfortunately, don't play on paper,
no injuries part of the game. And

633
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,320
it just shows you, you know, it's hard to win in that league.

634
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,880
I mean, that is a tough
game. And that was where you

635
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,800
know, Josh Allen. I was
even hearing guys for the ten or fifteen

636
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,159
minutes that I watched ESPN this morning
wake up and I was going to go

637
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,880
to Good Morning Football, and I
didn't. Uh. They were saying,

638
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,239
you know, Josh has got to
get down as well, like he's just

639
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,920
reckless abandonment with his body, and
it is this idea that he's gotta just

640
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,760
take, you know, he just
takes it on himself. But you know

641
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,880
what the funny is, who's the
punter for the Bills? Martin? So

642
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,280
Sam Martin. So Sam Martin's out
there. Did you see when he's running

643
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,360
now that that play? I know
everybody's going, well, it should have

644
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,320
been called back, okay, miscalls
or miscalls. It shouldn't have been in

645
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,440
that position to begin with. So
they kick a field goal and beat you

646
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:13,960
that way. But he, uh, when I see the punter just put

647
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,039
his hand out like yeah, no
touch me. Yeah, and then I'm

648
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,000
like, man, lower to the
shoulder, wrap up and try to knock

649
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:22,360
the guy down. First of all, it's his fault. He putted the

650
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,960
ball like straight up in the air. It was a short punt. Also,

651
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,360
Emanuelatch, I don't know if you
know him. He's from he's from

652
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,880
FS one, he's a former player. Goes, look, I sucked that

653
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,280
was on special team, so I
know that this play went bad. And

654
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,360
here's why. He goes, we
need to have an emergency special teams made

655
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,719
to get the Buffalo Bill's locker room. And he broke down why the play

656
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,440
a dark yeah, And it was
like, oh my gosh, he's right,

657
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,800
But how about the guy that got
it for the Jets? Not great,

658
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,599
a great, feel good story,
A guy who came it was basically

659
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,119
as close to a walk on as
you can be. Yeah in the NFL.

660
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,400
Now absolutely, I mean he and
I think his whole story was the

661
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,400
one that people followed in hard knocks. And now he gets a touch down

662
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,599
and he's a rookie. It's like
all right, you know, for a

663
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:05,440
fan base where the season is not
going to be what you thought it was,

664
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:07,960
it's just not. Yeah, I
mean it was. It was a

665
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,480
bittersweet moment for the Jets, but
I mean it was much worse for the

666
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,920
Jets last night than it was for
the Bills. I think as much as

667
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,400
we are pain is only gonna be
like, okay, now it's on of

668
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,800
the Raiders. At some point right
with them, it's like, oh crap,

669
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,360
we're stuck with Zach Wilson exactly,
exactly. Uh. You know what

670
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,639
if you're stuck with a car that
you don't like, I sugges getting out

671
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:25,320
to Victor Kresle the Dutch Ram,
you're gonna find them on Route ninety six

672
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,920
and Victor they have the inventory to
get you exactly what you need and more

673
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,239
importantly, what you want. Right
now. You can get a twenty twenty

674
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,719
three great Jeep Grand Cherokee that would
be a Jeep Grand Charity. A lot

675
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,920
of deals on those, a lot
of good rebates, sport utility for extra

676
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:42,599
converted with twenty four months, ten
thousand miles per year, just two ninety

677
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,519
nine a month, with twenty five
hundred casher trade first payment, DMV taxes

678
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:49,599
and fees to its signing. You
must be returning leasy. There's dealer coupons

679
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:54,360
available with while supplies last. I'm
also a huge fan of the Dodge Ram

680
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,880
Laramie truck beautiful. Well, it's
just you named it. You named your

681
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,480
truck. No, no, it's
called the Laramie. No no, no,

682
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:06,559
no, no oh you told me
last sever bull Yeah, every time

683
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,079
you get in there starts playing Bob
Cigarette. I haven't set up so it

684
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:15,559
says welcome bill. It says welcome
bill. But these things they're luxury.

685
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,840
They're easy to drive. It's it
doesn't feel like you're driving a truck.

686
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,000
I've driven trucks for years, and
this is you don't feel like Sometimes you

687
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,039
feel like you're big and they get
a little rough. Not these smooth.

688
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,800
They got charging plates. You just
drop your phone in it charges. How

689
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,119
many times do you USB? Court? God, damn it. I left

690
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,000
in the house to get you back. Who's got a court? You're asking

691
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,239
your kids? You got It's fantastic
going all the way to Florida this thing

692
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,679
and you guys left the USP.
But look, the screen is big that

693
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,719
you can see. But it's not
obnoxious where you you know, everything's controlled

694
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,360
from the steering wheel. It's just
it's luxurious and it does everything you want

695
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,480
a truck to do. You want
to put it in four wheel drive.

696
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,199
The greatest thing is you just push
a button. It used to be have

697
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,599
to get out. You got to
change things and switch your tires around.

698
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,800
None of that stuff. You'll find
all that and more at Victor Chrysler Dodge

699
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Deep Ram keep you and your family
safe with a visit. They're on Root

700
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:13,480
ninety six in Victor. So something
has come out today and I it's an

701
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,679
interesting oh yeah, in the NFL. Maybe you can shed a little more

702
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,039
light on this. I did not
do a whole lot of research into it.

703
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,679
I did see that Pro Football Talk
had tweeted this out. And who

704
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,000
is Jim Trott. Jim Trotter was
has been a writer for a long time.

705
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000
He's covering the NFL. Hes to
cover with the Chargers. He worked

706
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:36,840
for the Athletic and he also covered
the NFL for NFL Network. And he

707
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,880
asked Roger Goodell a question I forgot
where it was. It might have been

708
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,119
Super Bowl week or it was a
public question about a year ago, and

709
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,360
he asked him about, you know, the lack of diversity and head coaching

710
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,880
hires and whatnot. And a few
of the owners apparently didn't like that.

711
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,320
Now. I don't know if this
conversation was a response to Trotter asking this

712
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,440
question or whatnot. But Trotter got
let go, and a lot of people

713
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:07,000
thought was because he asked Goodell these
questions about diversity and whatnot. And according

714
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:12,679
to a lawsuit filed by Trotter for
wrongful dismissal. Let me pull it up.

715
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,159
It appears I have some of it
here too. Danny, tell me

716
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:19,000
if this is the same thing,
because I have like three four, five,

717
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,400
six seven, almost like somebody like
a lawyer laid this out, yes,

718
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:28,199
and it says, yeah, this
is like like a lawyers stationary basically

719
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,880
for in the lawsuit they have to
write the lawsuit out and they have it

720
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,280
all. Bullet pointed out it has
already been acknowledged by many in the media

721
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:43,039
that the NFL retaliated against and took
vengeance on mister Trotter for him having taken

722
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:46,320
the NFL to task on discriminatory practices. Now, when they say acknowledged,

723
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,199
that could be just their opinion,
it doesn't mean it's fact. They're acknowledging

724
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,960
it. This is our theory.
It hasn't been proven. The NFL's treatment

725
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,519
of mister Trotter is consistent with a
documented history of silence, retaligating against,

726
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:06,880
and blackballing black men who speak out
about such conduct. Mister Trotter's a black

727
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,960
reporter back, that's okay. The
NFL's modus operandi and part of the fabric

728
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,760
of the league. This is the
NFL's modus opera. It's the way they

729
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,679
They're moo there, right. But
mister Trotter's experience with discrimination and retaliation was

730
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,199
not limited to his termination. Throughout
his employment, mister Trotter witnessed and observed

731
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:30,760
discriminatory and and or hostile conduct by
his employees, including by NFL team owners,

732
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,280
that went entirely unchecked as a matter
of standard operating procedure. And here

733
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:44,679
we go number five. As one
such example, Terry Pagoula, owner of

734
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:50,280
the Buffalo Bills, stated, in
reference to players protest against racial injustice,

735
00:45:50,679 --> 00:45:53,559
that if the black players don't like
it here, they should go back to

736
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:59,360
Africa and see how bad it is. Mister Trotter raised complaints and concerns about

737
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,159
this remark, but no remedial action
was taken. And the number of paragraph

738
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,719
six. There's another example. Jerry
Jones, owner of the Dallas Cowboys,

739
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:13,000
responded to a question posed by mister
Trotter regarding the dearth of black professionals in

740
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,239
decision making positions for NFL teams by
stating, if blacks feel some kind of

741
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,639
way, they should buy their own
team and hire who they want to hire.

742
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:27,480
Mister Trotter raised complaints and concerns about
this remark, but no remedial action

743
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:34,599
was taken. I I so,
what do you do when a situation like

744
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,159
this? What do we and what
do we think? Because could this be

745
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,400
trouble? Yeah, we're in twenty
twenty three. People are sick of this

746
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,159
shit. And you know when we
we've heard black lives matter, and where

747
00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:52,519
you stand on that almost doesn't matter
because until you've lived a certain way you're

748
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:57,199
you kind of can't experience the discrimination. And we can say, well,

749
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,000
it's all like we got different water
fountains were sent any different schools, any

750
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,119
want to come on? Many separate
but equal? Yeah, I mean yeah,

751
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,000
said America back by one hundred years. But all I'm saying, all

752
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:13,880
I mean is there's still there's still
stuff that's exclusionary and tougher to get in

753
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:19,880
and the boys club and all that. Okay, So I talked to someone

754
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:23,079
who is black today and I said, are you aware of this? And

755
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:29,599
they said yeah, And I said, I am curious. Would you comment

756
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,639
on it on the podcast? And
we talked for a while and the person

757
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,079
was very very open with me,
but just wasn't comfortable I think, say

758
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,280
I and I totally get it.
I get it, you don't want to

759
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,960
say. But they brought up an
interesting point. Their answer to me was

760
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:53,719
people speaking emotions. You know,
emotionally, people speak on frustration. If

761
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,320
they don't like it, go back
to Africa. See like, that's a

762
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,880
frustrated person who's frustrated with some thing, and probably wouldn't say that, but

763
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:08,039
now that we live in a world
where things get out quickly or at some

764
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:13,559
point are more likely to get out, especially if they're a hot potato like

765
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,159
that that you know. So the
person said, take it with that.

766
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:24,639
And I don't think Terry Pegoula is
racist. I think, I mean his

767
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,519
wife is not the majority, as
they said, so I went not too

768
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:31,360
much, as she's a co owner. Yes, you don't have any other

769
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:35,400
women owners in the NFL, and
I know she's not in the best,

770
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,079
but she was a co owner.
So I don't know what you think it's

771
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,280
terrible. We we can't say that. We can't say, well, if

772
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
you don't like it. Because I
said to the first I go, you

773
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,800
know, if I bitched about something, they're not going eah go back to

774
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Ireland. See, I'll go to
the fucker because if we did, if

775
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:57,400
I did a I don't know what
twenty three and me, I'm I'm my

776
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:04,119
mom did it? You know what? My mom is ninety nine percent Irish

777
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,320
from a twenty three meter or whatever. It was ninety nine percent Irish and

778
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:12,880
one percent Northern European. That's the
fucking Vikings that came over, right,

779
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,599
they took over. Why do you
think we fight so much and drink so

780
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:21,000
much? Just a fucking Vikings knocked
up with great grandmother. Probably where you

781
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,719
are? Where do you think the
redheads come from? You know? So

782
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,440
all I can say is, uh, but that isn't said to me.

783
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,719
So I don't know. I don't
know where this goes. It's it's is

784
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,880
you're gonna go back to a couple
of terms. I think we'll hear the

785
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,800
establishment, uh, white old men, the boys club, the you know.

786
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,320
Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know. I don't even know

787
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,519
what you said. I don't even
know. Like if I'm a lawyer and

788
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:50,760
that stuff shit said, or if
that said, I go, I just

789
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,719
kind of throw up my hands and
go, yeah, I guess you're right.

790
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,800
Yeah, it's pretty bad. I
don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna

791
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,639
read a comment another comment that came
out today. Good, and you tell

792
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:01,000
me what you think of this.
So this is are now, this is

793
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,559
you want to look at the source, say what you want about Jerry Sullivan.

794
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,960
But Jerry Sullivan has been a hell
of a report fifty years. I'm

795
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,239
a fan. I know I'm a
fan of Jerry Sullivan too, and I

796
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,760
got a raw deal. It was
an emotional moment. We'll see that's this

797
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,400
is okay. Yeah, so that's
exactly what the first and I spoke to

798
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,679
said. It's an emotional You know, people say things I oh god,

799
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,159
that is I even I said,
thinking stuff that I don't really mean a

800
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:28,039
buddy, did you ever? I
almost edited it out, but I didn't.

801
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,280
I feel bad. You know what, I own it. Well,

802
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:31,880
I would never do that, I
know you, and I don't mean that.

803
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,760
If the guy wants to sit down
and talk, not that he want.

804
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,679
Don't underestimate me. Don't underestimate me. I'll knock somebody. I'll knock

805
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719
somebody. See that because I'm sitting
there going, I'm imagining this boss that

806
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,480
you describe kicking somebody's bag down the
hall. That's humiliating. Of course it

807
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:46,840
is I would take a pretty face
into the wall, and I mean that

808
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,679
you don't have to edit that out. That's bullshit. I understand that's that's

809
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,440
bullsh. I think that that probably
wouldn't happen today. But that was.

810
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,119
That was literally twenty It's an act
of power, like you can't do anything

811
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:02,400
to me. Watch this. It
was and it was also I think it

812
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,760
was done. I think the people
had to. I think the person that

813
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,000
was done too had a relationship outside
of work that with that person, So

814
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:16,519
that was lifelong. And I think
it was. Yeah, and I think

815
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:20,880
it was also done. Yes,
that changes, Well, it does,

816
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,559
it does, and it doesn't.
It doesn't, it doesn't, and I

817
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:27,519
think it it turns it into a
I'm going to use you as an example

818
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,639
to scare everybody else. I know. I know of a place this is.

819
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:36,719
I just thought of this now,
No a place of a place where

820
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,440
I could go and get my ass
kicked. Yeah, where they would hire

821
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,400
a bunch of new people and they
would get one person was a plant and

822
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,760
they would just fucking blow up and
fire the person to scare the ship out

823
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:54,280
everybody else locally. No, okay, no, no New York City law

824
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,840
firm. Oh, no, yeah, yep, yeah, of a buddy

825
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,599
who would went wow, I went
to Fisher with who went on to watch

826
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,239
get one of those jobs like that. All you're gonna do is you're gonna

827
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,679
do You're gonna be there and you're
gonna do something like you're gonna you're they're

828
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,039
gonna give you something to do and
you didn't do it, and so they're

829
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:15,599
gonna come in and go where is
it? Or it looks like you palmed

830
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:17,639
it off to somebody else and they
want you to do it, and you

831
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,639
know this and that and this would
be like the third strike and they just

832
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,599
fucking melt down on you and like
the whole play. I mean, it's

833
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:28,559
just you know that awkward silence where
everybody's like afraid to breathe, and you

834
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:30,880
all of a sudden you hear like
somebody's phone go off, and go,

835
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:32,280
oh good, please shut your fucking
phone off. Yeah, like because you're

836
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:37,079
yeah, yeah, they do that
like everybody's Momo number five, your spinker's

837
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:45,119
this d D D off. Yes, so yeah, okay, so I

838
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:49,239
think in the situation of that,
but I even do that to me.

839
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,639
I'm just thinking if that if that
was me, if that was me,

840
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,199
No, I know, but that's
where my heart and my head went.

841
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,440
Yes, I know, so go
but so Jerry Sullivan, not to Jerry

842
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,159
Sullivan quote. He tweeted this out
about an hour ago. I recall Pegoula

843
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:07,079
making a joke about Byron Brown and
Ted Black. Now Byron Brown was and

844
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:12,559
still is the reigning mayor of the
City of Buffalo. And if you notice

845
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:15,119
anything in Buffalo last twelve years,
that city's on a complete one eighty.

846
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,679
They used to have a control board. That city used to have a control

847
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,920
board running the show. I mean
they were spending money like Erie County was

848
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,039
a mess. City of Buffalo was
a mess. Byron Brown came in and

849
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:29,639
the whole city's undergone a renaissance.
It's Gordon. That's before even the Pogoula

850
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,079
has gotten into the act. Ted
Black used to be the president of the

851
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:36,599
Sabers. So their last name is
Byron Brown, the African American gentleman.

852
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:45,079
His last name was was was mayor, was lost being lost. He lost

853
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:49,880
the primary primary, so he wasn't
even on the ballot, and then everybody

854
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,519
wrote him in. Yeah he was. He was a writer and winners the

855
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,960
incumbent because they didn't want to win
the primary because India Walton was like a

856
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,760
communist that they didn't want, or
a socialist. They didn't want a socialist

857
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,920
running the city of Buffalo. But
here's the problem. We don't pay attention

858
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:04,960
to the primaries and they fucking knew
it. Yeah, you have to,

859
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:09,039
right, So Ted Black is white, Byron Brown is black. I recall

860
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:13,800
Pegoula making a joke about Byron Brown
and Ted Black, suggesting that Brown was

861
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,239
blacker at a public event and Buffalo
a while back. Jerry says, I

862
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,320
was accused by savers pr of calling
Terry a racist. All I did was

863
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,719
report to comment and say that he
shouldn't be allowed to speak publicly. By

864
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,320
the way, that is not the
first time I said it as a joke

865
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,400
out public. Yeah, he goes
as blacker, like it's kind of a

866
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,480
joke. Right. You could see
like a guy Terry Pogoula's age saying something

867
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:39,639
like that, right, Hey,
you know, okay, it's like this

868
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,519
is this is the generation. But
that's the shit. I fucking love you

869
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:46,480
want to know why, because I
don't think in his heart he meant anything

870
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,880
by it. Of course he goes
and maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong. I'm

871
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,400
not in that skin. I can't
say it, but I don't see anything

872
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:00,840
in there that was marvelishizing anybody like
he can't, or discriminator, discriminatory or

873
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,000
keeping you out of so to me, but we are pointing out a difference,

874
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:07,679
and I know, and I know
in my head, I'm going I

875
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,079
would never say that, but I
fucking loved it. But so Jerry Cellivate

876
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,400
is saying, he's telling the Sabers, Hey, look, Terry shouldn't speak

877
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,920
in public. And oh, by
the way, the Sabers for years have

878
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,760
taken that stance and only let Terry
speak when it's absolutely necessary. You and

879
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,719
I and Tommy Wants interviewed him and
it was one of the worst interviews ever,

880
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,239
not because it was bad content,
but because he didn't know how to

881
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,360
answer questions. I don't remember he's
not He wasn't very loquacious. Did he

882
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,159
sit down with us? No,
No, he was on the phone.

883
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:36,400
It was after he bought the Sabers, not the built. He bought the

884
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,199
Sabers and we talked with him.
And because we were the Saber station at

885
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:44,960
the time and time is brou that
was freaking terrible because tom he's gonna say

886
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,039
it like it is. And this
guy called guy I just put, he's

887
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:51,159
put a franchise, saved it for
relocation. All you gotta say is pro

888
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,760
it's terrible. Rod's terrible brown.
He just can't talk. And people tried

889
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,880
to hide Terry. They let Kim
be the front person. Well, now

890
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,719
that's not a pot, that's not
an option anymore. And so a lot

891
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,880
of this stuff is now coming out, even though that was all before Kim

892
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,960
got you gonna be If you want
to be a great ceo, yeah,

893
00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:10,800
you hire people who are are great
at certain things, find the people that

894
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,000
are better than you, and and
and try to check your ego a little

895
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:16,320
bit, and it should all it
should all work out. I'll tell you

896
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,440
what I tell you. Sounds like
a guy who would like be on like

897
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,679
the Baston Show, like that one
guy. But Judge, she's like,

898
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,400
how much do you think I can
match press? How about you want to

899
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,679
take a guess? He might not
have to go on a day with what's

900
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:30,599
her name over there? Like that's
what he sounds like. I think that

901
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,679
the future owner or maybe the future
coach, because he called it Greg Connors.

902
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,400
Because someday he would be eloquent speaking
out there. He wouldn't do that.

903
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,880
He'd be fantastic, He really would
be. He would be. But

904
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,559
I'll tell you what. He's fantastic
because he's a great lawyer. And at

905
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,320
Connors and Ferris, the only round
handle workers compsole, security, disability,

906
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,440
and personal injury, all of which
can take over your life. Right you

907
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,599
start worrying what's gonna happen? What
am I gonna do? Those are things

908
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:59,400
you can't control, but you can't
control who's handling it for you. Right,

909
00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:01,239
that's Connors and Ferris. Get the
team that's gonna be by you.

910
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,159
Get the response that you need,
get the experience you want, get the

911
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,599
personalized legal representation. That's what you
get when you hire comps. Don't throw

912
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:12,440
your own punches. Let Greg do
it well exactly. You want somebody who

913
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:15,679
actually understands and knows what they're doing. So all of that worry, all

914
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:20,119
that stress goes out the door,
and you've got somebody who has a great

915
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,119
head on their shoulders, understands the
law inside and out, and it's gonna

916
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:27,440
be there for you. They're committed
to serving you better. That's Connors and

917
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,920
Ferris, and they're only a quick
call Away two six two comp. Very

918
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,519
easy to remember two six two comp. Connors and Ferris your workers' comp attorneys.

919
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,280
I didn't know that about Terry Pegoula. And by the way, this

920
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,840
story that's come out that you've tried
this lawsuit, like Matthew Faber reported about

921
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,920
this years ago. Yeah, we
just don't pay attention, we don't care

922
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:50,360
rights. And he also I think
he made a point. Actually, no,

923
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,760
I won't say that because I don't
know the full Norman clature the discussion.

924
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,559
But like, this isn't the first
time that Terry Pecoula people said this

925
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:59,360
about him. I don't think the
guy is racist. I don't know him.

926
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,400
I don't think so. I mean, I think I don't believe that

927
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,239
either. But I do think that
there are certain things that we probably shouldn't

928
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:07,679
be saying anymore. Yeah, we
just should you're a position of power exactly

929
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:15,079
because it does put off the idea
of you were pick you're you're pointing something

930
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:19,519
out that's different. Why when we
should be all inclusive right right? Right?

931
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,800
I mean inclusive. I mean now
like Dan Snyder's out in Washington,

932
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,400
Yes, the guy from Carolina,
like was out, Jerry Richardson was out

933
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,320
several years ago, so now it's
like, Okay, who who's next?

934
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:31,599
I mean, it's it's a scary
thought. And if you're a Bills face

935
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:37,599
at that stadium going up right and
uh gosh, and the franchise is now

936
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:39,920
probably worth twice as much as what
Terry paid for, he'd be like,

937
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,679
you know, the hell with us, go ahead take it. I'll sell

938
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,880
it to you. I don't need
to deal with this, and why should

939
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,519
he? That's a scary thought if
you're a Bills fan. Yeah, I

940
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,400
I I don't know that that'll happen. I don't think it. I don't

941
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,440
think that'll happen. I think that
that sound they have to versify. Got

942
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:58,679
to go there? Well, a
job to go there? Oh your worst

943
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:00,199
case scenario? Dan, Why do
we got to do this? Always with

944
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:07,039
the scenarios. You're you're like my
mother, You're worst case scenario day.

945
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:10,079
But but you know what people well
that nobody wanted to hire before all those

946
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:16,079
years. Good you are just funny. I just have fun. Hang on,

947
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:20,079
you are angry about that ship?
Does it piss me off? Yes?

948
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:22,679
Yes it does? Yeah? Still
yeah, yeah, yeah, all

949
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:25,800
right, Michael George still pissed off. He didn't make his versity basketball.

950
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:29,719
By the way, as a tenth
grader, are you sitting? Are you?

951
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,599
Are you saying my life is so
much better now than it was had

952
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:35,960
I stuck in radio that God was
so looking out for me at that time

953
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,519
that I didn't have the vision to
see it. Okay, well nobody does.

954
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Yeah you don't. Nobody does.
But if God had told you here's

955
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:44,119
what you're gonna go through, you
wouldn't wanted to go through it. That's

956
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:45,599
why he reveals yourselfing self one step
at a time. I know you're not

957
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,519
into that. I'm just saying I'm
hang on, hang on, hang on.

958
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:52,159
We're of a similar coin and I
am not mocking you. And I

959
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,920
don't ever want you to leave this
No, never any any space. You

960
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,559
and people have been in this room, but yeah, wherever we share,

961
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:04,320
I don't want you walking away going
well, they just muck me because I'm

962
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,119
great. No, But I I
am believing that the idea of sacrifice and

963
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:15,039
suffering is complete and utter poppycock.
As our friend John Paranello used to say,

964
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,119
right, I only that, and
I say that because yes, yes

965
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,480
we should a shirt made. Every
everything starts right And if you got everything

966
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,639
all at once. She couldn't handle
it. So that's part of the journey.

967
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,159
But you should try to make it
as pleasant as possible instead of this,

968
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:35,239
Oh it's down Trott and I gotta
suffer it. I gotta sacrifice for

969
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,239
the Lord and I gotta no,
no, no, I don't I know.

970
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,920
But but you're saying, like,
go through it. Yeah, I

971
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,119
guess, but can you go through
it in a better way? Look?

972
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:49,840
Man, you know, and I
know, like with me and you,

973
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:57,559
I think that the way things go
and the way you handle them determines the

974
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:02,159
outcome. Yeah, completely, And
you can have a bat something that would

975
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:07,400
be. I don't believe things come
out of the blue, but I'll say

976
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,800
they come out of the oblivion.
I never saw it coming. I was

977
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:14,199
oblivious right into whatever it was or
whatever it would be. But I think

978
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:20,800
that how you handle that is is
determinative of how it goes. Right.

979
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,800
So if you keep thinking, like
all this bad shit happens to me,

980
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,559
I can never lose weight, I
can't. You won't, you won't,

981
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,519
but you won't. And I'm just
saying that that's the rocks in the stream.

982
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,039
So how do you get the rocks
out of the stream. You got

983
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,239
to start thinking like, yeah,
but you know what, feeling better,

984
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:42,719
I'm eating better, I actually feel
better. You know, I'm I'm I'm

985
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,039
mud slides out my butt so I'm
losing weight immediate. Yeah, that's how

986
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:46,679
I looked at it. You know
what I'm say, But this could be

987
01:01:46,719 --> 01:01:51,440
a blessing man. Yeah, you
see what I'm saying. Okay, well,

988
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,280
at least you know, you know
who's pretty interesting in in in the

989
01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:01,320
Christian faith. Absolutely like when he
really is. Yeah, but talk about

990
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,840
positivity, talk about all the ship. He says, basically the same thing

991
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,360
I've said, you know, tune
those people out. What other people's opinion,

992
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,679
it doesn't matter. Hell, yo, I don't care what they say.

993
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,199
The Lord has raised on me,
I know, right, And it's

994
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,199
but it don't You almost listen to
that and you feel better yourself. Even

995
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:29,920
if you're not a believer, you
feel better man. Yeah, I mean,

996
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:32,880
yeah, he's spectacular. He's fascinated
with that stuff. Right, Always

997
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,760
think about what you're gonna rut what
am I grateful for? What am I

998
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,360
grateful for? Or like can you
say go for the happening? Well well

999
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,159
but no, but but but but
that's it. What am I grateful for

1000
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,199
right? Yeah? Hey, hey
man, I haven't put on any more

1001
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:47,519
weight. No, but here's the
thing. I didn't have to turn the

1002
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:52,719
sun on this morning. No,
I didn't get out and pull that tops

1003
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:54,480
of the earth spins a little fat
and pull that chord real quick, so

1004
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,599
make sure we're still spinding. I
didn't have any of that. So all

1005
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:01,079
this shit's going on, that's out
of my control, and I just expect

1006
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:04,559
to be there. I didn't have
to create the oxygen. I don't have

1007
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:09,079
to breathe less today because there isn't
enough oxygen. It's just there. Yep.

1008
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:14,480
Okay, so those are all great
things. Let's go, yep,

1009
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:16,559
let's go. Let's move that.
That's the thing. Move forward, Move

1010
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:20,039
forward and get to red, white
and brew baby. Oh yeah, that's

1011
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:22,400
a nice date spot. Yeah.
Well, my wife and our anniverse a

1012
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,079
couple of anniversaries are coming up.
I might take her there. What anniversary

1013
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:30,679
when we started dating and when we
got engaged or two days apart? So

1014
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,840
yeah, so Dane's gonna be spending
some money this weekend. Why why why

1015
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,559
do you laugh about that? I
don't mock you, Dan, No,

1016
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:43,519
I don't mock your faith. Okay, I mocked the shit out of you.

1017
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:45,639
That's true. I do mock the
shit of you, But I will

1018
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,840
not mock your faith. I'll you
can mock my faith. Okay, I'm

1019
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,599
not gonna mind everyone come at you
with what I see. I'll have a

1020
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:57,480
discussion. I gonna mock it,
you can. The truth is the truth.

1021
01:03:57,519 --> 01:04:00,159
Look, man, uh, that's
a very nice thing that you remember

1022
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:06,119
those anniversaries. Because fifteenth of September
seven? Does she remember that the fifteenth

1023
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,960
was the first date? No,
it wasn't the first. Our first date

1024
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:12,440
was June first. She actually actually
she has it on. Also, wait

1025
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,000
a little heart, what's what's the
fifteenth? And the fifteenth was the day

1026
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,199
that we started officially dating. Officially
dating? Yeah, officially dating? What

1027
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:21,719
does that mean? We courted from
June till September. There's some other court

1028
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,559
that she was like interested in too, okay, But then she settled on

1029
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:29,119
can I ask a personal question on
Billy? Am I allowed to ask question?

1030
01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:30,079
Can't you know where I'm going to
ask? I don't think so,

1031
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:33,519
But go ahead? Well, was
there banging and during the courting period?

1032
01:04:33,599 --> 01:04:36,599
I will not discuss that. Oh, come on, were we on the

1033
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:47,519
hardwood? Court. I wish,
I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment privilege,

1034
01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:50,159
mister Ran all right, but in
all seriousness, like we started dating

1035
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:55,280
officially on September fifteen, So what
is official? Like, I'm exclusive to

1036
01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:59,760
its baby, Okay, nobody else? You and me? My I started

1037
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,519
day and her. You know,
she was the only when I was dating.

1038
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:03,599
When she started dating me, she
was seeing some other people, which,

1039
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:05,360
by the way, it's called dating
for a reason, you know.

1040
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,920
And then she grew more more interested
in me, and then we started dating.

1041
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,719
She said, Okay, so I
gotta go back now, but let

1042
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:16,920
me pause that for just a second. Really finished this red wait and Brew,

1043
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,440
Yeah, I'm sorry if you're courting, Yeah, and you really want

1044
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,719
to close the deal? And Brew, I think. So. It's a

1045
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,480
tap and tasting room that does all
the flavors of New York State. So

1046
01:05:27,559 --> 01:05:30,719
the wines that you love from the
finger Lkes you can get there in a

1047
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,719
flight. The beers that you love
from around the state, you can get

1048
01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:35,639
there in a flight. Same thing
with the spirits, you can do the

1049
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:40,440
same thing. Get a nice charcuterie
board. There's no TVs. You're talking,

1050
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:44,079
there's music, there's actually board games. You can play and stuff.

1051
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,920
It's just a cool place. And
I think that if you took someone there,

1052
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,519
because think about like, let's say
you are dating and someone's dating a

1053
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:56,119
bunch of different people. That's a
memorable date spot. You want to close

1054
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:59,519
the deal, you go to one
forty seven State Street, downtown Rochester to

1055
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:02,039
Red Way and Brews closing. Say
hi to my friend Omar over there,

1056
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,039
and you can find out more at
Red White and brew Rock. That's Roc

1057
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,079
Red White and brew Rock dot com. All right, so back to this

1058
01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:15,559
courting and what do you mean back, I'm just curious. I'm curious because

1059
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,039
so she was dating other people and
you were aware of that. She she

1060
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:23,280
was up front, she said,
tom oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1061
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,239
It wasn't like, you know,
we were just like she was like dating.

1062
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:27,559
It's like, it's just you're dating, right, You're trying. You're

1063
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:29,920
not exclusive to anybody. You're just
saying, Okay, I'm gonna go out

1064
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,480
with this guy and then next week
maybe I'll go out with this person and

1065
01:06:31,559 --> 01:06:35,039
see what where things go. And
we started dating more and more, and

1066
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:38,320
then you know, at the end
of the summer, she was like,

1067
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,199
Okay, I think you're the guy
I'm like great summer eleven. Okay,

1068
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,239
So so when she's dating other people, have you ever called her like did

1069
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:53,440
you let let let me just lay
this out. It Tuesday. It's Tuesday.

1070
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:57,559
You're thinking about I at this this
weekend. I wonder what a Beth

1071
01:06:57,639 --> 01:07:00,280
for you? And riding night,
loved to go, I got some tickets,

1072
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,199
this will be awesome. Call her
up and she says, oh,

1073
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:10,480
I've got plans. Did that happen. I'm asking if that happened. If

1074
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,960
it did, I don't know if
it did or didn't. If it did,

1075
01:07:13,519 --> 01:07:15,199
does your mind go. I wonder
who she's with. I wonder what

1076
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:17,880
they're doing. I wonder where they
went. I wanted to go here?

1077
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:23,159
Is there jealousy that comes out?
I'm just curious because I guess I guess

1078
01:07:23,159 --> 01:07:28,280
I never had. There was curiosity. Yeah, like I guess I never

1079
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,320
dated or or I just never cared. It could be both. It could

1080
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,119
be more of that. When I
really really, I really like, grew

1081
01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:38,480
to like her and figured it out
that I liked her, I got really

1082
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,880
curious about okay, like, what's
what's going on? Yeah, inside the

1083
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,320
mind of a guy? Right?
Oh? Yeah? Absolutely? When so

1084
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,199
you really started to like her.
Did you say so was I liked her?

1085
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,719
Okay? Did you say things like
I not I love you? Did

1086
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:58,119
you say hey, I took a
falling for you. I could sh I

1087
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:00,800
know you, I know you.
That was a different Daan. No,

1088
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,519
I think you get I think you
turned into a big pile of fucking jello,

1089
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,119
my melting cool whip on top.
Alright, I might have Yeah,

1090
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,800
well, I mean most people,
most guys, Yeah, a circle of

1091
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,479
trust, right, Bill? Yeah, But I mean like, what were

1092
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:23,000
you anglingd to Angland? To what
Angland? To spend the night? Uh?

1093
01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:26,840
Possibly? Yeah? You know,
I was a big rock star building

1094
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,439
you know, I'm playing in bands. This before this is before covid man,

1095
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,920
the world was awesome. Yeah,
you know, before I read a

1096
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,399
thing, I followed something on I
don't even know when I followed it,

1097
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,640
but I'll admit to this. It's
success addicts or addicts. I think it's

1098
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,159
success addicts might be on Instagram and
then they just put out a bunch of

1099
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,720
means. But one day with these
slides, and I just went through real

1100
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,960
quick, and one of them said, uh, my mom always told me.

1101
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,199
And I don't know who this quote
was attributed to, but my mom

1102
01:08:56,239 --> 01:09:00,119
always told me, if you're in
love with two people, go with the

1103
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:02,239
the second one, because you wouldn't
have fallen in love with them if you

1104
01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:05,000
were really in love with the first
one. That's a great point, you

1105
01:09:05,039 --> 01:09:10,279
know. And so I think for
anybody who's dating. You may have feelings,

1106
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,279
You may genuinely have feelings for people, but if there's one that you

1107
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:16,760
just kind of can't shake, or
maybe you do fall in love. Some

1108
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,720
people just fall in love easily.
Maybe some people aren't really sure what love

1109
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,720
is, that it is loneliness.
Yeah, sometimes it's lost. Some people

1110
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,479
confuse sex. And I think a
lot of times, like with the older

1111
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,760
generation, like if they if they're
widowed, right or w they jump on

1112
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,680
the first train that comes because they're
so accustomed to being with somebody, and

1113
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,000
oftentimes it leads to a quick,
quick marriage and divorce. I mean I

1114
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:42,560
know a several older people that's happened
where like oh yeah, and all of

1115
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,560
a sudden like well, because they
just couldn't live without somebody. And that's

1116
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,359
well, I'll tell you, Like
I think they getting to know you period

1117
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:54,279
with somebody who's important, right and
and really get to know somebody. I

1118
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:57,199
mean, see all faces of this
moon man, You know what I mean?

1119
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,520
You know when it when it's in
its u blue moon phase. I

1120
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:06,039
want to know what's coming once around
the corner. And sometimes you don't,

1121
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:12,479
You're you're in too deep. I
know what that's like too. Yeah,

1122
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,079
No, I know everybody does.
I'm not. I'm not. That's not

1123
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:17,159
it. But I think I says, so you got you remember that when

1124
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,279
you officially started dating. Does she
remember that day? Oh? Yeah,

1125
01:10:20,319 --> 01:10:25,520
she has. She has a whole
She made a heart with all like the

1126
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,039
important dates on it. And then
I, you know, also remember the

1127
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:30,359
date that we started dating, which
she has on and then the day we

1128
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:34,000
got engaged, Yeah, and we
did. I did it right over here,

1129
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,880
actually know it was in Pittsford by
the Canal. I don't think I

1130
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,199
remember any of that stuff. No, No, I don't think I ever

1131
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:45,760
did. I don't, which I
don't. I think is an insensitive thing.

1132
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:48,239
Probably, I don't know. I
think it's I don't know if it's

1133
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:53,359
a male thing or it's just like, yeah, I don't think of my

1134
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,600
it depends on like the personality you
have. I don't think there's like a

1135
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,640
right or a wrong way to like
look at it. We're softy. I

1136
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,039
am, Yeah, I am.
That's all right. See I'm not just

1137
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:10,279
like punching people. People. I'm
pain too. Was my favorite. That

1138
01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:13,600
was, would I say, yeah, dude, no, makee me man,

1139
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,439
I'll do it. That guy you
wanted to too, though, didn't

1140
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:23,600
you. Uh no, no,
I didn't care. I wanted to slap

1141
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,239
him though, because he's more slapped. I just thought he wasted time.

1142
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,439
Yeah you know me, Well,
yeah, I waste time. Yeah right,

1143
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,279
what I used to say all the
time, I hate waste. I

1144
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:36,039
hate burning calories on people. That
was your big billy ladies and gentle billy

1145
01:11:36,039 --> 01:11:42,199
would have these phrases of the month, right, like one month like January

1146
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:45,319
twenty twelve, Okay, systems,
we need systems, right, yeah,

1147
01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:47,119
we're gonna have systems in place for
the show. I did hit it.

1148
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,279
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, I
don't remember then once I was like,

1149
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:54,880
I'm about burning calories on this guy
upstairs with Grandpa Munster on the third floor,

1150
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:58,520
you know. Or gosh, there
was another one like he had some

1151
01:11:59,279 --> 01:12:01,560
take the putt, take the gd
power back and sticking up their ASTs.

1152
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,079
I mean like so like that's the
phrase of the month, Tommy, Yeah,

1153
01:12:05,119 --> 01:12:10,520
bro, I get your Bengo card
out. Didn't know that this is

1154
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,079
going on? Oh yeah, I
mean I don't think Tommy realized that.

1155
01:12:13,199 --> 01:12:15,399
I go there, he goes again. But you'd have like, like this

1156
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,800
year, I'm reading biographies, I'm
already like halfway through. Steve Jobs is

1157
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:23,159
ladies and gentlemen. I'm not joking. Bill Moran would come dressed like he

1158
01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:26,880
is right now every single day for
work for like a month, wearing a

1159
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,239
black It was like January, you
wear a black like not a sweatshirt,

1160
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:33,279
but like a longsleeve shirt and jeans, same outfit every day because that because

1161
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:35,439
you didn't want to have to think, and you bring it up. You

1162
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,039
bring it up in the show.
You know why Steve Jobs dressed like that

1163
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:41,399
because you don't want to have to
think about what he had to wear every

1164
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,479
morning and times? Is that why
you've dressed in the same outfit like a

1165
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,880
cartoon character for the last twelve days. I still do it now. Yeah,

1166
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,640
I know I'm lazy. I buy
I just picked my outfits out the

1167
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:57,000
day before. Why I didn't do
that? And I actually like dressing dressing

1168
01:12:57,319 --> 01:13:00,640
up, like if I I would
wear suits and things. I like that

1169
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,159
I'm not gonna wear a suit here, Yeah, but I would. I

1170
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:06,920
would do that suits like your last
job. No, okay, no,

1171
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:11,079
no, no, but I would
wear them if I am seat something or

1172
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:14,439
I don't mind dressed it up at
all or trying to pull my I would

1173
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:19,840
wear college shirts and stuff. But
I also love like I buy T shirts

1174
01:13:20,039 --> 01:13:25,159
from Classic tas or whatever, class
classics you still get. You get the

1175
01:13:25,159 --> 01:13:28,239
text message twice a day. Yeah, so I would. I know.

1176
01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:30,760
I don't always. They know when
I'm on the crapper too, I think

1177
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,039
because I'm like, oh man,
I'm stuck here. I don't think I

1178
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:36,600
I think I opted out for the
Texas. Okay, you cannot, oh

1179
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,000
man, they okay, well let's
see what they got. I opted out.

1180
01:13:40,279 --> 01:13:42,159
Forty five minutes later, I'm still
sitting there, like, Okay,

1181
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,840
I might buy this package you can
buy like the black T shirt package,

1182
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:49,159
right, I better not, because
well, T shirts from Yeah, and

1183
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:53,800
they're wonderful comfortable. Yeah, but
they're T shirts and they look like a

1184
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,600
T shirt. They're not They're not
like anything spectacular, but I like them.

1185
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,399
They're softer, they're they're they're fit, they're properly. I could probably

1186
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,640
go I have extra large. I
could probably go large, but I didn't

1187
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:09,520
want to look like that guy because
I'm fifty two years old. Yeah,

1188
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,880
I've actually grown into that guy now. Yeah, so I don't. I

1189
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,560
don't want to be that guy.
So I just decided that. But I

1190
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,319
love the shirts, so I'll just
throw them on. I washed them.

1191
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:21,079
I do laundry, and I'm by
myself. I do laundry and so yeah,

1192
01:14:21,079 --> 01:14:25,600
I know people have commented, do
you ever change your clothes? Man,

1193
01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:29,199
You're wearing the same thing all the
time. Today I'm wearing a hat

1194
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:30,640
because I wasn't feeling good and I
almost didn't do the podcast, but now

1195
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,000
I'm glad I did. Danny,
Yeah, it's a good podcast. I

1196
01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:36,039
did. Yes, it was a
very good podcast. One thing I want

1197
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:40,720
to remind people if you were going
through any kind of family law issue,

1198
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:45,000
circu Laws the place you want to
Steve Circue and his wife Merrily, uh

1199
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:50,880
merrily handles all the family law stuff
and they're fantastic and U I think I

1200
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,239
think they're gonna be moving their offices
soon. Oh no kidding, Okay,

1201
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:59,520
yeah, down by the river.
No, no, no, I didn't

1202
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,119
mean that that. Like a lot
of people like lawfases have like they're not

1203
01:15:04,119 --> 01:15:08,199
going far from where they are now. There, they'll remain in Pittsford.

1204
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,960
But look, a lot of times, if you have a divorced child,

1205
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,159
custody or any other family law matter, you're gonna want someone who cares right

1206
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:20,600
understands, is going to guide you
through this. Those are emotional times.

1207
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,039
They're emotional times, and you don't
a lot of times, Look, we've

1208
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:29,680
talked about it tonight, Terry Pegoula
could have have been an emotional What he

1209
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,079
said and what you're gonna read online
and maybe in articles and things, was

1210
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:35,600
it set out of emotion? Doesn't
make it right, But even for yourself,

1211
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,720
you can make it things worse when
you act from emotion. And that's

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a lot of times what we have
what do they call them trigger words?

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Hot buttons? You're you know,
somebody's pushing your hot buttons. Who knows

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you're hot button better than the person
that you shared a bedwidth? Probably right?

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Okay, So if you're finding yourself
in something that you can't resolve,

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all circul walk and help you get
through that. That That's what I'm trying

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,960
to say. Him would call a
five eight five three five twenty five ten.

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And if you are uncomfortable doing that, you want it to be really

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quiet, you can do it through
incomplete confidence through their website. It's a

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Circuit law dot com. They have
a contact page there and it is completely

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confidential. Circue in circuit, helping
your family get back to what matters most,

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all right, Danny, Yeah,
it has been Uh, it's been

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fun. A little different tonight a
little bit, but that's cool. Yeah,

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sometimes you gotta switch it up a
little bit. We do. We

1225
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:30,319
do. Somebody said I should,
I should change this to my way because

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we're doing it our way. They
are, frank, but it's such a

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long song. It's so slow,
so I figured maybe we'll keep closing with

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this, but once in a while, like throwing a little my way for

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Dan Barillo. He's gonna take it
seriously and he's gonna remember the day.

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I'm Bill Muran, will see Tomorrowley