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I'm very pleased to bring into the
podcast today one of my favorite guys to

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interview. I've interviewed lots of boxers
for a long time Regis program the WBC

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Junior Well Delay Champion. Always fun
to talk to. Regis. Thank you

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for doing this. I appreciate you
being here. Dan Man, glad to

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be your baby near screen. All
right, well, we're here to talk

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about a pretty significant fight, certainly
a big fight for you, one of

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the better fights I think that we've
seen on the calendar for the calendar year

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of twenty twenty three. You're defending
your title for the second time against the

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lightweight champion, Devin Haney, who's
going to move up and wait, he's

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going to challenge you. It'll be
December, the night that Chase Center in

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San Francisco live on his own pay
per view in the United States. All

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the lucky folks that don't live out
in the United States, they get it

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on the Zone as part of their
regular subscription package. We'll talk about that

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in just a minute, but my
first question for you is when you signed

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with Mattroom Boxing and Eddie Hearn,
and there was a lot of possibilities of

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different fights that you could have looked
towards if you had signed with a different

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promoter. At that time, Mattrim
did not have Devin Hainey. He was

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still going through his process with his
previous promoter. Uh, now you have

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this fight. So what was it
about it that made you so confident that

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that you'd be able to get this
matchup? Man? Look Eddie. First

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off, Eddie came to me,
you know, he came to Houston and

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talked to me. That was one
of the differences between you know, Todd

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Rank and Mattrum. You know,
Matt Todd Rank flew me out to Vegas

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and they didn't. They flew me
on Southwest. And people know with me,

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I'm I am kind of boogie,
you know I you know, I

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fly first class everywhere I go.
You don't have to give me a private

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jet, but I do fly first
class. So they flew me and my

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potet. They flew us on Southwest. I didn't really like that. But

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then Eddie flew to me in Houston, and you know, Eddie pitched me.

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He said, look, this is
gonna be the plan. You know,

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we're gonna get your It's it's a
brief fight deal. He said,

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We're gonna, We're gonna, you're
gonna get a defense in New Orleans.

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First, he already had a date
plan lined up and stuff like that.

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Then he said Devin Haney's name.
Nah. I don't know if he was,

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you know, bullshit. I don't
know if he was full of shit

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or not. But he said Devin. He literally said Devin Haney would be

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second. He said, Devin Haney
or Ryan, we'll see all something like

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that. It'll be a big fight
in the second fight. And you know,

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it actually happened, and he wasn't
yet. Devin wasn't with he was

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with Todd Rank at the time,
you know, and it all just it

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just kind of came true, just
like he said it would, and it

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is happening right now. So what
was it then about Devin compared to any

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of the other talented fighters that were
already at one hundred and forty pounds that

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made you want to go in that
direction with him coming up away? Because

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I mean, look, if you
there was Tiafimo Lopez was there with top

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rank Josh Taylor, we would have
loved them sure to have a rematch against

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him, handing you your only loss
a super close fight. Uh, you

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know, Josey Ramirez is with top
rank. Still that's a fight I'd still

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love to see. At some point, you mentioned Ryan's area se So what

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was it that made you so sort
of like, ah, yeah, Devin

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Haney, that's that's gonna be a
great competitive was it? Well, it

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was just you know, Devin is
a devon, is a big name,

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you know, but it just wasn't
the whole. It was just a whole

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just the contract in general, just
the whole thing. Because the top rank

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deal was a long deal with the
Eddie hearn did. It was a shorter

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deal, and he promised me,
you know, he did promise me of

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Devin Hainey. He promised me,
like a Ryan go see all Devin Haney

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for the second fight. And with
the top rank deal, you know,

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I think it was I think it
was the second fight would have been maybe

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like a Ramirez or something like that. You know. So if you if

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you compare a Devin Haney or Ryan, go see it to a Ramirez.

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You know, it is big on
that side. And you know, for

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me, I'm still glad that I
feel I definitely feel like I made the

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right decision. Well, and I
watched the news conference that you guys had

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with each other that was out in
San Francisco a few weeks ago, maybe

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a month ago. Uh. I
found it striking. Uh. You know

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Devin Haney, you know, he
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You do also, I think that's
you know, it's good but not

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too severe. But he actually said, and I quote, I'm going to

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beat the living shit out of him, meaning he's gonna beat the living shit

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out of you. When I heard
that, I was a little surprised,

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because as excellent of a fighter as
Devin Haaney is, is everybody out of

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nobody he can't beat. He can't, he can't. He talking about Isaac

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Devin. Devin never beat the ship
out of anybody. Yeah, he's a

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good boxer and stuff like that.
But I feel like I, honestly,

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I know I'm a better box to
him. But I have power, so

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you know, I can box,
but I can I can hear people really

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hard. Devin never beat the ship
out of anybody's whole career. You know

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who did he beat the ship out
of nobody? You know, I can't

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wait to y'all see that we had
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I said, Devin, who who
did you even knock out? You never

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knocked out anybody? Like he just
sat there and smile. He didn't know

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what to say. You know,
he had you know, he he fall

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on the TANKO, he fought camp
Bole says he fall Leonora's and he fought

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Jojo Diaz. For me, all
those fights was you know, he never

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beat the shit out of any of
those guys, you know, like he

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he didn't hurt none of those guys
or anything like that. Yeah, he

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won, but he boxed for twelve
rounds, so he didn't beat the shit

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out nobody. So he's definitely not
gonna beat the shit out. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna hurt Demon. I know
I'm gonna hurt Devil, like how Camp

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is going right now, what I've
been doing just even to SPA partners and

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stuff like that. I know I'm
gonna I'm gonna hurt Devin, you know

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if it goes to a rounds and
goes to a rounds. But I'm definitely

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gonna hurt Well, you finish my
sentence for me, because I was gonna

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ask you like he doesn't He's a
great boxer, but hasn't really beaten you

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know his quote the shit out of
anybody. But you've answered that question.

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Uh, and what you thought of
that comment? The other thing, as

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I've noticed, you know, you
guys have gone back and forth on your

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social media. You went back and
forth out of good back and forth out

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the press conference brought a little life
to things. Uh, you've been talking

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a lot of smack. And that's
all good, like I said, But

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I wonder, you know, and
I don't know the I think I kind

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of know the answer to this.
But is there like legit animosity between you

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two guys or is it like,
look, you have a lot of steak

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both you in this fight. You
both have a real desire to win this

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fight, so you know, the
machismo comes out and you get your hear

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you know, get your dander up
a little bit. Or is there a

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real animosity? I mean it's kind
of both. You know, right now,

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I can't respect him right now.
We enemies right now, you know,

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maybe after the fight of before.
You know, I've been around him

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before, I've been around bit I've
been around Devin. You know, we

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never been friends or nothing like that, but I've been around him, you

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know, say hey and stuff like
that. To him. But you know,

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that's all. But I don't,
you know, I don't really know

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them like that. That's not like
an I never really hung out with him

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before. I just been around him
before at some you know, some events

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and stuff. But no, like
right now, it's no respect that it's

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really no respect at all. Like
we're going to wall and I want to

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hurt this man. That's that's what
I want to do. So I don't

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respect him. I don't respect the
team. I don't respect nobody. That's

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just, you know it is.
We do have to fight. That's that's

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how it has to be. So
I know that this fight's taking place,

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like I mentioned, in San Francisco
city that has not had big time championship

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boxing for a very long time.
I think you got to go all the

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way back to the I guess the
early two thousands for a Floyd Mayweather fight

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there that took place in San Francisco
and certainly not in a big arena.

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But and he's from San Francisco,
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I wonder what are your thoughts about
fighting him in his hometown. It's

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not even his hometown. That's the
thing, you know, he's he's he's

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just because he was born somewhere,
that doesn't mean it's your hometown. You

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know, he was he was raised
in Henderson the Bad or something like that,

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you know. So I mean that's
not as you know, hometown,

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I'm not. I'm cool with it. I don't feel like it's no hometown

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favorite stuff going on, you know. Like me, I'm comfortable in California.

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I trained here, I used to
live in California. I won my

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I became a two time world champion
in California when I fought as the pata

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Is from LA and I fought him
in La in course, and it's the

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same thing. So I'm comfortable.
I'm comfortable here, and you know it's

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is for me. It's a better
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I like California. Like I said, I live, I used to live

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here. I try I train him, you know, so I'm here for

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a long time anyway, So I'm
cool with it. So, as I

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mentioned, of course, he is
the lightweight champion. He's going up to

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challenge you for your title at one
hundred and forty pounds. So I actually

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wondered what was your reaction to having
the fight being billed as Hani program,

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like they put you in the B
side, Like some guys really care about

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that. If it was me,
I wouldn't really give a shit because I

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always say, what's important is who's
hand they raised at the end of the

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fight. But what are your thoughts
about having, you know, taking the

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B spot, you know, being
it's called called the Haini program. Yeah,

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same thing. I don't care.
Man. Look listen, I know

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he's a you know, he is
a bigger anatomy, but I don't care,

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you know, like they can like
they and do it really well.

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My back is against the wall and
I have more pressure on me like that,

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I actually performed better. So this
training, like I said, man,

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this training camp has been crazy,
Like I it's been long and it's

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been hard, and I've been doing
like super good and spawing and stuff like

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that. So I don't man to
answer your question, I don't care about

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none of that stuff, you know, B side, A side, none

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of that stuff, you know,
And at the end of the day,

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it's only like the results from the
fight that count, and that's the only

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thing that matters to me. So
I don't care. You can say any

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bro, you can say whatever you
want, but listen, I'm a buzz

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handy ass. Well you mentioned it's
been a tough training camp, and I

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uh, people who are gonna hear
our interview are going to hear it on

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an audio, but we're doing a
zoom call so I can see you.

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And I was, I look at
you. It looks like you had a

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little bit some bruising around the left
either left. It's crazy, man,

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this is I went toward rounds to
day. It was like literally the last

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round and it was like just scratches
and stuff like that. But y'all got

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a little bruising on my face right
now, no problem. But yeah,

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but camp been, Yeah, camp
been like super smooth man, like just

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to a rounds today. I did
it really easy, you know, it

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wasn't hard, so spar with the
guys out here in Keller. I went,

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you know, I did like a
three puck. I was. I

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started a long time ago. I
was in Houston training. Then I came

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to California for like five weeks and
I went back home. I went back

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to Texas for about three weeks and
I'm here until the rest of the time.

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So yeah, man, it's just
everything is been going real smooth.

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Can I ask you who put that
shiner on you? What's what's his name?

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We we've been what's his name I've
spoiled with to day? Oh Elijah?

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What's Elijah less name? Flora,
Elijah Flores. I think he is

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forty seven or fifty four pounder.
Yeah, well, I can respect that

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you're giving that guy a little shine. I'm gonna give everybody that shine,

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man, no matter what I'm gonna
give them, they shine I've been.

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I'm for me. I'm just thankful
that I get to like these dudes get

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to help me, you know,
because the West Coast fighters they are different

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from where I come from, the
South fighters that the West Coast fighters are

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different. Day they have you know, these dudes are fast, a lot

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of skill even with a lot of
power also, So you know, I'm

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just glad to you know, I
get to work with these guys and you

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know, they helped me out like
a lot. In your when you won

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the title, the vacant title that
had been vacated by Jose Ramirez, you

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look really sharp. That was last
November. You scored an eleventh round knockout

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against Jose Zepaida. As you mentioned, just a really good fight, and

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you know, you look really sharp. Like I said, your first defense

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in June was kind of like the
opposite you fought dan Alito Ziria, not

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the original opponent that you were supposed
to fight, and Regis, you know

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you don't bullshit when you talk about
stuff. I'm not gonna bullshit you.

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You look kind of rough in that
fight, eking out the decision. Not

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not your best showing. I know
you said that after the fight. What

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the heck happened in that fight?
I just I think it's just a lot

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of things piled up, you know, just having a hometown nervousness, just

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going back to the walls. I
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man, you got to deal with
so much stuff, just doing things

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at once supposed to do. Before
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Orleans before. It wasn't your first
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what when I thought that, it
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thought I fought in July twenty eighteen, I fall but last so yeah,

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I mean I stopped Molasko in the
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it was it was kind of like
the same thing I had my face looked

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like this. I took too many
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at all, you know. I
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People look at that, but it
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So, you know, I don't
know the New Orleans curse whatever it

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is, but yeah, I was
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good performance. And then you know, a couple with you know, he

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was a last man to replacement,
you know, so we was training for

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Leam Powell for the whole time and
then he came in three weeks later and

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literally he just came just to run
around. Yeah, you know, and

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of course I'm supposed to do my
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but just a lot of stuff going
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I know, I didn't look good. Well to say that, the

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folks that would be backing Devin in
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a Regis program couldn't cut off the
ring against Darria, how the heck are

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you gonna do it against a boxer
like Devin Hainey. Right, I want

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them to say that. I want
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I want everybody to say that you
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like I said, it just just
that night. It was just off night.

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other spot you might have an off
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player might have a off night,
but they get to come back. In

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boxing, you have an off night
that people think that's your identity. No,

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it's not my identity. I just
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you know. So people look at
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this, and that what I mean
for me, I embraced it. I

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like that. It's cool. I
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looking at any fight, look at
that fight, you know, and try

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to study that, and you know, think I'm gonna be like that now.

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Hainy said before that fight occurred that
he was already looking your way,

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thinking he might want to fight you
when he moved up and went from lightweight

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to junior walterway before you fought Ziia. But his father, Bill Haney,

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who was also his manager or trainer, was ringside for that fight. Do

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you feel like the bad performance or
the shaky performance however you want to describe

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it was a silver lining, because
that's you know, whether he said he

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wanted to fight or not. What
maybe pushed them to really pursue the fight

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was thinking, you know what,
we just saw the way he performed against

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Syria, let's go for it.
Do you think it was the overlying to

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get you this matchup? Yeah?
I definitely, for sure, for sure,

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for sure. You know, if
I would have went out there and

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not zal one or two rounds,
they would have came, know what close

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to me. I know that.
You know, Devin Haney says, people

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say things like that all the time, but that really, you know,

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that really put the candle on the
cake. When at that performance, Bill

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was there, he was like,
all right, you know, I see

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it. You know he was coming
a scout, So yeah, I mean,

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that's exactly why he was there.
That's exactly why he fighted me.

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If I would knocked him out quick, this wouldn't even I would have been

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fighting my manager. Do either of
you guys have a rematch clause in this

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fighting? No, No, for
either one of you guys. I do

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know that one. I don't.
I don't, I don't I don't have

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I don't need one. I don't
know what he is, but I don't

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have one. I feel like I
don't need one. So, as I

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said earlier on, there's this is
like a a it's a good matchup.

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I think every boxing guy is like, yo, that's a good fight.

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Uh. There's been a lot of
debate among the diehards that while it's on

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a regular The Zone subscription around the
world, in the United States, it's

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a pay per view, and uh, I just wanted your point of view,

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do you. I mean, because
a lot of people are like I

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subscribe to The Zone for classy fights
like this, and now they're putting every

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like real big time fight on pay
per view. I wondered, what's your

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perspective on it. Obviously, you
know, you may be able to make

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more money potentially if it hits,
but maybe a lot less people might see

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it. I just wonder where you
come down on that sort of back and

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forth about this should be a pay
per view or it shouldn't be a pay

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per view. Well, I mean, I think it is a big fight.

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I definitely think it's a big fight
as far as pay per view.

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You know, I don't run that
stuff. You know, that's that's the

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business side of people, you know, Eddie An on pay per view.

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For me, the only thing I
just hope it does good. You know,

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hopefully a lot of people see that. I just hope it does good.

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Is it is a you know,
it is a big fight for boxing,

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So you know, I just hope
a lot of people don't tune into

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it. I want to just wrap
up with this. I mean, I

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don't want to look too far ahead. Obviously, you got a tough fight

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in front of you. Everybody's looking
forward to it. Of course, if

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you win the fight, I wonder
what other big things do you want to

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do? You mentioned you don't think
there's a rematch clause? Is there some

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other opponent that you look towards some
of the guys that we just talked about

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earlier. Is it the possible of
moving up to the welterweight division? Is

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it just just putting on a long
rain as a junior welterweight champion? What

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is? What do you think is? Uh? This is for you down

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the road? Well, really,
I feel like I'm gonna stay at one

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forty my rest of my creer.
You know, somebody look up to his

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like I always looked up to his
marble Hagler say that one sixty his whole

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career. You know, I have
the discipline to do that. I've been

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you know, I've been feeling good. I've been on my diet. I

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you know, I trained year round. So I definitely feel like I'm gonna

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stay at one forty. And you
know, I want all the big fights.

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That's that's the only thing I want. I want all the big fights,

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if it's big money fights, if
it's for the belts, whatever it

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is, I just want the big
fights. You know, I'm at the

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stage in my career. You know, I don't want no you know,

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tune up type of fights. I
don't want no homecoming type of fights,

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none of that stuff. I want
all for me, all big fights.

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So whatever that means, that's that's
just what I want. If it's you

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know, and and right now,
luckily I'm at the I'm at the weight

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right now. Well, it's it
is a lot of big fights. You

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know, I'm around that one thirty
five want forty one forty range, one

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forty seven range. And you know, for me, I'm gonna stay at

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one one forty my rest of my
crib. But you know, you do

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have a lot of big names out
there. You know, Roally has a

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belt, Ta Fema has a belt. Ryan gonna see it. What's his

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name, the other IVF champion,
multi, Yeah, he has a belt.

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So for me, it's it's just
you know, all the big fights,

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even like a Javonte Davis or something
like that. Like just for me,

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all all the big fights, that's
the only thing that I want,

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you know, big, big,
big money fights, big name fights,

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and you know, just yeah,
that's all. And I still want to

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see the rams five years ago and
Ramerors. Yeah, if it's a for

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me, yeah, if it's a
big fight, then Romeiro mirror is also.

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You know, even if like a
Josh hillory match, you know,

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I don't I don't know how likely
it is because I don't know if he's

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gonna stay at one forty with one
forty seven. But for me, I

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told you what I'm doing. I'm
gonna stay at one forty you know the

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rest of my curR. And so
I plan on keeping my belt and just

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defending my belt the rest of my
current and maybe hopefully, you know,

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become an undisputed champion if the politics
allowed. Well, you have a big

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fight coming up, Like I said, the beginning of this interview. That's

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going to be December the ninth.
You're taking on Devin Haney, Regis.

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I wish you the best of luck
in that matchup. I appreciate you doing

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this and thank you so much.
Thanks man, that was Thank you you

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bet. I'm very pleased to be
joined today on the podcast by none other

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than the lightweight champion of the world, Devin Haney, who is moving up

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in weight to challenge Regis Apprograate for
the WBC Junior Walterweight world title December ninth

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at the Chase Center in San Francisco, his hometown where he was born,

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live on his own pay per view
in the United States, diz Owne worldwide.

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Devin, Welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for doing this.

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I appreciate it here, sir,
Thank you for having me. I'm

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excited as well. My pleasure.
So actually, I wanted to start off

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with this. We were supposed to
do this interview yesterday and I got a

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note text message from your wonderful publicist
Crystal right before we were supposed to get

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on the interview, and she's like, hey, can we reschedule tomorrow?

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The Vada testers showed up at the
gym to do a drug test on Devon

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and then he's got a train.
So you know, what have you got

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me thinking about that? I mean, you've been a guy that's been committed

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to drug testing, I think for
quite a long time. Uh, when

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you're about to go in to get
to a training session and they show up

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unexpected, Uh, what is your
take on that? I mean, what

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is your feeling? You know what? You know what you're in forming?

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You sign up on a random I
mean, you know, yeah, I

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mean it is good. I'm gonna
makes me happy knowing that. You know,

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I wasn't a big advocate for it. You know, it wasn't like

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a common thing, you know,
a few years ago. But I was

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the one of those, you know, paying for it. You know,

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I even out of my pocket to
get it done. So you know,

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I'm happy to see them come.
I'm happy to be tested. I probably

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be tested as well. So with
the even playing field, as I wrote,

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I said, I can't even be
mad about having the timing of the

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interview get messed up because I'm a
strong advocate for drug testing. So if

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they're there to test the fighter and
it disrupts my interview, schedule for a

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little bit. You know what,
no problem. So here we are doing

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it today. Like I said,
I'm looking forward to your fight, and

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I wanted to start up with this
going back to uh your fight earlier the

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year you you had an excellent victory, close victory against Vasilio Muchenko to retain

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the undisputed lightweight title. Uh.
Of course you became a free agent after

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that fight, but you could have
got a lot of different routes. You

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could have given them a rematch.
Perhaps you could have, uh, you

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know, have had the mandatory with
Usher of course Stevenson. You obviously could

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have perhaps contacted the PBC folks to
check in and see what kind of availability.

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Gervante Davis said that'd be a big
fight to you. Fimo was with

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todp Rank, who you were with
at the time. Uh, you opted

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to go and look in the direction
of Regis program and move up and wait,

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I just and there're all these are
all every match I just mentioned would

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be a very good fight for the
fans, I believe. So I'm just

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wondering what was your thought process in
pursuing the program fight the way you ultimately

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did. Yeah, it was it
was a you know, another chance made

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to history, but you know,
becoming to the business problems all nan dream

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of mind and you know which is
you know, a chance for that.

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So you know I'm going to be
great going up the way, going up

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the way. You know a lot
of people saying I was gonna go out

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for a long time, and now
I finally have the chance to go up

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if you fight the champion, and
that's what I'm doing. Did you consider

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any of those other fights? And
I say that because, like, you

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know, if you wanted to go
up, certainly Lopez was also a champion

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one hundred and forty, the lineal
champion, even uh, you know,

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just wonder you thought about those other
ones. Possibly, Yeah, you know,

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we will run out of all our
options and uh, you know the

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fight that was the easiest to make, what was Regi's programs, and uh

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it made the most just for me, you know. Uh, as a

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business, you know, to to
go get a title and then you know,

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go back to the negotiating table and
then you know it will be you

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know, we have much more leverage
making a fight with tp MO Lopez.

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So that's a fight you'd like in
the future that I take it as you're

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saying, yeah, no, that's
that's that's one of the of the future,

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you know, But like you said, it's it's a lot of big

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fights still to be made, you
know. It s alot of big names

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uh around around miss waiting the class. But just you know, with me

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having the title, you know,
I got much more leverage. So in

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Regis his last fight when he made
his first title defense, this will be

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his second title defense of this one
hundred and forty pounds belt. He you

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know, even he's the first admit
that he looked pretty pretty poor against Zuria.

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He won barely over the summer,
and his thought process is sort of

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like, maybe that was a silver
lining because your father, Bill and your

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trainer and your manager was their ringside
watching the fight. Regis was not impressive,

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00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:34,440
and at that point the way Regis
says, you know what, that's

408
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480
what said, Okay, let's go
fight Regis because they think I'm a pushover

409
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,720
because I look bad in that fight, and that if he had looked good

410
00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,440
and knocked him out in one or
two rounds or just looked great, you

411
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,960
know that Devin Haitty would have never
fought him. What is your response to

412
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,319
that? Yeah, I mean,
that's not true because you know, my

413
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,440
dad went to the fight to watch
him, so you know, it wasn't

414
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,200
like he wasn't our radar. You
know, we we we always had a

415
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:03,039
great relationship with Eddie. Eddie heard
and you know he went to the fight,

416
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,000
and you know, just because he
didn't look good didn't mean that.

417
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:08,759
You know, he was interested in
the fight. I had caught him out

418
00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:14,519
previous to that fight, and and
then it just aligned for us to make

419
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:18,359
the play happen. But I'm not
I'm not a guy that you know,

420
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,240
it goes and tries to look for
the easy fights. The guys are here

421
00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,240
that that that does that, but
I'm just not one of them, So

422
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,519
you know that doesn't apply for me. I agree with that. I mean,

423
00:22:29,559 --> 00:22:32,359
the mere fact that you're fighting him, and you fought Loma, and

424
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:37,000
you went twice to Australia. I
think anybody that's questioning that aspect of your

425
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:40,319
career is sort of kind of crazy. If you ask me, as you

426
00:22:40,319 --> 00:22:42,119
get ready for this fight. You
know, I watched the press conference that

427
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,839
you had out in San Francisco when
to kick off the promotion. I've seen

428
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,240
your back and forth on social media. I've seen the Zone commercial that's run

429
00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:53,000
a thousand times. There's been some
good smack talk between you two guys,

430
00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:56,759
and obviously that's good to sort of
pump up the fight. I think I

431
00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,039
feel like it's sort of been not
over the top trash talk the way some

432
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:03,920
guys get, but good enough.
But I also wonder is it a matter

433
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:10,599
of that it's for the promotion or
or is there serious animosity between you guys.

434
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,880
I get the impression that you're fighting
each other, so there has to

435
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,400
be something. But when it's all
said and done, you guys are pretty

436
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680
chill with everybody. I see you
guys talk to other fighters and that you

437
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,039
know, everything should be good after
the fight. Where do you come down

438
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,720
on that? Yeah, No,
it's not no animosity. You know,

439
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:27,799
at the end of the day in
his business, I won't take done if

440
00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:33,839
I personal none, none, nothing
that none of these fighters say. You

441
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,279
know, it's it's it's all a
sport and I want to go in there

442
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,759
and put on the best it's you
know, of my career up to date

443
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,559
and a show to work out great. I am, you know, uh,

444
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,079
And he believed he believes in what
he believes in. I believe what

445
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,880
I believe in So it was back
and forth, but that's say it really

446
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,400
a lot of people look at the
matchup Devin, they say, well,

447
00:23:56,839 --> 00:24:00,440
Devin Hainey, he's just definitely the
faster fighter. He's a superior boxer.

448
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,279
He can outbox Regis. Others would
look at and say Regis is a much

449
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,160
bigger guy. He's a big,
strong puncher. He's a southpaw heavy hitter.

450
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,720
Uh Reis says that he feels like
he can also box with you.

451
00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,799
Also, what's your take on the
style of the fight that will unfold?

452
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,279
Yeah, well that's no life of
time. Will he ever, you know,

453
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:25,799
be able to to box with me. But that's gonna be the show

454
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:30,680
him on he said for knife,
you know, I feel like I do

455
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359
everything better than him. He does
topel like he does everything better than me,

456
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,279
So it makes for a great matchup. He believes in himself. I

457
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:41,960
believe in myself and it's it's good. But I'm I'm I'm I'm the bigger,

458
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:45,039
faster and I believe I'm a stronger
guy. So I feel like he

459
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,920
he you know, has a big
punch, absolutely, but you know,

460
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,160
I to handicap him and to to
you know, make a fight going on

461
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:59,000
behind his back, right, okay? Uh so to make this fight possible,

462
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,079
Uh, you vacated the WBC lightweight
title and now you're challenging, of

463
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:07,359
course for the WBC title in the
next way class up. But you're still

464
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,960
the champion in the lightweight division.
You hold other belts, I don't know

465
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:15,640
what's gonna happen those exactly. Well, I'm the champion the recess. So

466
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,640
if I was decided to go back
down to one thirty five and then I'll

467
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,079
just get my belt back. So
well that's what I was gonna ask you.

468
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,640
So like Shakur won the vacant belt
the other day, you're fighting this

469
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,359
fight at one hundred and forty.
You still have uh, like I said,

470
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,240
other belts. Do you think you'll
whatever happens against program, do you

471
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,000
think that you'll ever fight at lightweight
again? Yeah? If it doesn't make

472
00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:41,160
sense, you know, it would
have to make sense, you know for

473
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:45,319
me, you know, financially,
it would have to be a massive fight.

474
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,160
But uh yeah, if it made
sense, absolutely, you know,

475
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,720
I would, you know, take
the sacrifice to go back down. But

476
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:57,039
other than that, all right,
because I was I'm a little surprised to

477
00:25:57,079 --> 00:26:00,000
hear you say that. I don't
know if you remember this, but back

478
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,440
when, back when you first signed
with Eddie Hern and mattrom it was the

479
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,079
weekend of a big fight. I
want to tell you. It was a

480
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,240
Canelo fight in Las Vegas. They
did a press conference to announce your signing.

481
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960
I was at that press conference,
and I remember this is even before

482
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,559
you were a lightweight champion. There
was already the questions from everybody, and

483
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,720
you and your father spoke about it
that you were only going to maybe have

484
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,759
a couple of fights that lightweight and
you're gonna go up. Hevn't that press

485
00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,200
commerce for like five years? Aguess? Yeah, no, I do remember

486
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,319
that. And it's crazy, you
know how long I was able to,

487
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,920
you know, last at one thirty
five, you know, fight at the

488
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,200
top level and uh, you know, be victorious. But it's just so

489
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,960
many big fights, so much money
I want thirty five that it's hard for

490
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,559
me to leave. And that's why, you know, I was afty about

491
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,319
going to one forty because I wanted
to stay and just keep proving myself at

492
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,559
one thirty five. But it was
only a matter of time, like I

493
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,319
said, it would only it would
have to make a you know, make

494
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,920
a lot of money, make a
lot of sense to be able to go

495
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,640
to one thirty five. But other
than that, one forties is the division.

496
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680
That's a fair enough statement. And
now I look at one hundred and

497
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,359
thirty five and I would not be
able to do this interview without asking you

498
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,119
about everything that's gone on between yourself
and Shaquare Stevenson. Yes, you're fighting

499
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,720
Regis, and you guys have had
a good back and forth. But he

500
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:17,160
won your vacant belt the other night. Even he admitted that it was a

501
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,880
bad performance. We don't have to
rehash how terrible it was. It was

502
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,319
abysmal fight to watch. Certainly he
said he wasn't feeling so great. Whatever,

503
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720
he was your mandatory, you elected
to do this fight, and then

504
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,000
he beat Edwin Delos Santos, and
he's been taking a lot of criticism for

505
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,680
that performance. What do you say
to the people that say that Devin Heeney

506
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,200
somehow avoided Shaquarze Stevenson, especially coming
off that type of showing that he had

507
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,039
the other night. I mean nobody, but you know, coming off of

508
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,039
that type of performance stuff, buddy, whatever, dare even say nothing like

509
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:52,039
that because the world knew that I
set to my offer. And like I

510
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,200
said before, you know, I'm
not the type of guy that duncan dies

511
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:57,440
any fights. You know. I
want to make the biggest fights, best

512
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,720
fights happen. Uh So that that's
the last thing you know, I ever

513
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:08,880
would do is duck. But you
know, and and Saturday, well Thursday

514
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,519
just proved you know that that right
that you know, your core is not

515
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,519
nothing extraordinary. You know, he's
who? Who is he to duck?

516
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,000
You know? I just I just
be arguably one even one of the best

517
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,799
south paws ever in my last fight. So why would why would I be

518
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,440
duck? Is your court? I
listen, I agree with that. I

519
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,480
mean, to me, I looked
at it like, hey, you had

520
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,559
the opportunity for two fights that we're
both very intriguing for different reasons, and

521
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,799
you can only fight one fight at
a time, and you made this decision

522
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,839
to fight Regis, which I don't
think anybody can blame you about. I'm

523
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,720
interested in this factor to me,
and I you know, because us media

524
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:47,799
guys do these sorts of things.
We start thinking about, like, well,

525
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:51,319
who's in the top level for in
the running for say the fight of

526
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:52,640
the Year and the Fighter of the
Year and the different kind of awards,

527
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,279
and I look down the landscape and
I look at the different guys who've done

528
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:02,960
the business this year. I see
Devin Haney has to win over Lomachenko to

529
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,160
retain the title undisputed at one hundred
and thirty five. Now you have the

530
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920
opportunity to win the title at one
forty or a title one forty against Regis

531
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,920
Program, who I would say,
to most people is like at worst,

532
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,279
like the second best guy in the
division right now. Uh. And to

533
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,200
me, that says if you win
the fight, and it's you know,

534
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:22,759
not controversial all that that Devin Haney
has stamped themselves as a really solid contender

535
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,000
on the on the certainly among the
nominees to be the Fighter of the Year.

536
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:27,920
Is that something that that you aspire
to? Is that important to you?

537
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,720
Yeah? I mean I want to
just you know, keep people of

538
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,559
uh, you know, keep eating
whoever they put in front of me,

539
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,519
and you know, let the let
the awards do what they do, lets

540
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,599
people choose. I don't want to
get too drawn up on on you know,

541
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,759
this award and that award and this
and that, because I just want

542
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,759
to go in there and put on
the best show impossible, you know,

543
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,160
because what's your gat you know,
emotionally involves match. You be upset if

544
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,240
you don't win, or you know, you be bad at the person that

545
00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:00,240
did win, or and stuff like
that. But the main win is is

546
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,319
inside the ring, and that's my
main focus. So this fight is going

547
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,440
to be in San Francisco, where
you were born, although you grew up

548
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,079
and I think are more identified,
at least from fans as a Las Vegas

549
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:12,680
guy. Uh, And there hasn't
but there hasn't been any kind of major

550
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,839
world championship boxing in San Francisco.
Last I can see, it was in

551
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,359
the early two thousands and there was
a card that Floyd Mayweather and Manny Paca.

552
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,759
Actually we're both on together in world
title fights. And by all accounts,

553
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,240
your fight against Regis is selling well
at the gate, a lot of

554
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,880
tickets, a lot of people excited
it. What does it mean to you

555
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,759
to go back to a place where
you were born to do a fight,

556
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,279
And I'm not sure what connections you
still have with San Francisco. Yeah,

557
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:38,160
I mean this is a dream coming
true of mine. You know, my

558
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,759
mom, My mom still lives in
San Francisco, So you know, I

559
00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:45,920
saw a lot of family that still
lived there and the Bay Area in general.

560
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:51,640
Mastister lives there. So it's,
uh, it's gonna be a big

561
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
event for for for the Bay Area. It's something that that people can look

562
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,440
too because it's not much, you
know, outside of the episides. We

563
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,839
have the voyage, if you know, we have the A's on which the

564
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:03,480
I think the A's is leaving now, yeah, they're going to Vegas.

565
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,359
Actually yeah, so we have some
teams, but you know they're not really

566
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:14,839
you know, it's not as it
was back in the day. So uh,

567
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,799
now you it's something fresh for the
people to come out to and you

568
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,279
know, wear their nice clothes and
kids come out and uh, it's it's

569
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640
it's it's a huge event and it's
doing great, so and great and I'm

570
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,039
excited for it now. One of
the things I was curious about and when

571
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,000
I asked regis this because I also
have interviewed him. Uh, he didn't

572
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,680
really seem quite one hundred percent short, which I kind of found surprising.

573
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,480
I just asked, I said,
you know, this is an optional defense

574
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,519
for him? Is there a rematch
clause on either side of this? Is

575
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:45,160
there. So straight up, whoever
wins can just go on and do their

576
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:52,200
business. No, whoever wins wins
and which and and if and Uh,

577
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,240
after this fight, are you still
with Matchroom? Are you back to being

578
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,640
free agent like and can go to
hunt around for whatever the best deal is

579
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,799
after this fight? Uh, I'm
back to being a free agent. But

580
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,240
you know, we start to see, we gotta see, you know,

581
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,519
I gotta get past it made focuses
just you know, like I said,

582
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,200
going there, putting on this show
and then uh seeing what snakes. What

583
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,000
would be the ideal way for this
fight to unfold for you? I mean

584
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:22,039
obviously besides getting the victory, you
know, me putting on a master class,

585
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,960
me showing everything in my arsenal at
and everything out or read his programs

586
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,440
and coming out victorys. However,
he you know, stands it, He

587
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,480
stands it. But I be you
know, be able to showcase you know,

588
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,279
uh, every game a little bit
of everything and on fight night.

589
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,720
I'm looking forward to fight night.
Devin. Thank you very much for doing

590
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,960
this. I greatly appreciate it,
and I wish you nothing but the best

591
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,920
of luck come up with this big
fight in the summer night yea, sir,

592
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,559
will you be there? You know
what, it's unfortunately I will not

593
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:53,160
be able to make this strip,
but you know what, you're gonna get

594
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,599
my money on pay for you because
I got to buy it obviously. OA

595
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:00,839
okay appcire But all right before I
look forward to seeing you. Thanks a

596
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:02,359
lot, Devin, I appreciate it. You have a good rest of the

597
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:02,880
training camp.
