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The weird things happened in the weird
All right, this is going to be

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a special episode. I really don't
even know where to again. I've been

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thinking over and over where do I
start, So I'll just go like way

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back. So back in twenty twenty
two, my dad, my sister,

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and I got invited to the Monroe
Institute to go for a private custom program.

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It was called the UAP Experienceers Event
or something like that, And that

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was shortly after we started the podcast, and I was like, Dad,

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I better not go because if I
go, then I probably won't be able

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to talk about it. So I
chose not to go. And also I

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just didn't know that much about the
Institute and I wasn't sure like what I

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was getting into. So I just
said, maybe i'll go next time.

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You guys go this time and tell
me what it's like. You let them

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be the guinea pigs. Yeah yeah, yeah. Was was that the one

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that was like put on for your
dad? Like okay, yeah, gotcha.

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So then some time passes and last
year, Dad and Emily went to

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another custom event. This time I
didn't have the opportunity to go, and

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I don't think I'm really at a
point to talk much about that one at

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the moment, but they went.
They had an amazing time, and I

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was like, Okay, I really
got to go to this place. And

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Dad's manager had a weekend set aside
for my whole family to go in May.

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I think it was May of last
year. Yeah, but I think

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it was May of last year.
And for whatever reason, he had something

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come up family emergency or something and
fell through and I just didn't get to

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go. So long story short,
March of this year, I got an

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email and it was like, we'd
like you to come free of charge.

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It's the first ever Creator program where
people are coming and we're going to allow

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you to film document, go through
the Gateway experience, and then go talk

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about it. And I was like, there it is. So I admittedly

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was very nervous. I didn't really
know what to expect, and I didn't

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really have a sense of direction of
what to do when I got there,

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how to even make content in the
first place. Like, I had no

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idea what I was going to do. I had an idea, you know,

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film some stuff, but I just
kind of was unclear on like the

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vision and I was just like,
I'm just gonna go and it'll unfold as

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I'm there. So this was like
specifically for content creators. Yeah, and

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is this the first time they allowed
people to make content there? Yeah?

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Wow yeah, other than it's right, it's the first in history. Because

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I was thinking, I was like, they didn't do any there was no

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videos at all of the past,
like a couple when Emily went when your

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dad went, Wow, they've never
allowed people to film like this other than

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a couple of TV crews. That
is wild. I was thinking that seeing

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all the videos and stuff, I
was like, I don't think I've seen

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this content before. This is this
is I never even knew what it looked

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like. Yeah, not many people
have seen that kind of content. And

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they gave us a full access tour
and it was amazing. I'm gonna get

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to all that. So anyway,
so I was very nervous to go,

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not not because of the institute itself
and what I might experience, but I

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just was a little unsure of like, am I going to live up to

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the experience my dad and my sister
had. Am I going to be able

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to make, you know, reasonable
content that people will enjoy or you know,

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kind of this imposter syndrome thing kicking
in, but I was like,

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I just got to go, and
whatever happens happens. So to your credit,

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that is a hard act to follow, right, Yeah, And I've

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had those thoughts like never even having
an inkling of a chance to go,

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I've thought like, if I ever
had the chance to go, like I

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wonder if I would have as pro
found that experience. Well. Absolutely.

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I was talking to Ryan in the
car just a couple of minutes ago and

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I was like, yo, man, did anybody that was there did anybody

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like not have him Monroe experience?
And he was like, no, everybody

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does. That's cool. There are
some people I understand that come and they're

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may be like not quite as into
it or maybe their vibe is off,

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but they still are having experiences.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'll get

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there. But anyway, So the
crazy part is I left to go to

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Monroe the day after we finished construction
on our house. So you know how

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that goes extremely stressed. Me and
Jenny had been talking about it like maybe

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this is exactly what I need to
kind of like reset the three months of

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chaos and torture of remodeling this house. So I get up at like nine

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in the morning on Saturday, day
one to make the drive, and it's

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about a six hour drive, and
I'm thinking the whole times from March to

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June. When I left, I'm
thinking, oh my god, dude,

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I'm not going to know anybody.
My dad and my sister have already been

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there and have met a lot of
these people at the institute, so they

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already kind of know who I am, but I don't know anybody. I

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felt like I felt like Harry Potter
going to the first day of school,

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where you know, your story is
kind of known about a little bit,

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but you don't know everybody but your
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world. So I definitely had some
jitters. And on the way to the

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institute, I called Dad and I
called Emily, and I talked for quite

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a while with each of them.
What do I expect, what's the coffee

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situation? You know, just this, that and the other, and they

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they told me everything I should expect, what it's like, what I need,

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stuff like that. Dad's like,
maybe you stop getting some shampoo,

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you know, because that I didn't. I was like, what do I

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even bring? You know? And
I stopped got some shampoo and then when

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I was on the phone with Dad, I said, Dad, I'm gonna

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be honest with you. I have
a secret mission. I'm I'm coming here

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to go through this experience. But
my secret mission is I want everybody at

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the institute to see the beings because
I want everybody's mind to be blown.

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I want them to be introduced to
this. And I think that if that

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happens this week, it would be
kind of a big deal. It would

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be historic, you know. And
he was like, okay, well,

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I mean just we'll put the vibe
out there and we'll see what happens.

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So I finally get there and it
starts to settle. Okay, this is

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real. And they check me in
and I see four names on the list

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that I know, and I'm like, yes, I'm not alone. I'm

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not the kid on the first day
of class. And I got there like

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literally, like four h two.
You're supposed to get there at four.

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I showed up like right on the
dot. I was the second to last

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person or third last person to arrive, and everybody's kind of talking. There's

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this big group of people and I
didn't recognize anybody except two from the list.

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And then the last two were the
other two that I knew on the

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list out of twelve people, And
right off the bat, I noticed Amy

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illuminating Joy who's been on our show. Yeah, and we were so excited

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to see each other, and it
was like, oh my god. And

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I went to go set my stuff
down. We had like two hours to

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kind of like settle from the time
I got there and take a little tour

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of the facility and still hadn't really
clicked yet. I still didn't really know

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anybody that well. And yes,
so I went and I put my stuff

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in the room and I was like, oh my god, this is crazy.

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I'm looking at the unit. They're
explaining to me the laundry situation,

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throw your towels on the hamper,
just all these like housekeeping things. And

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I walk upstairs and I'm just kind
of sitting there quietly, like not wanting

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to barge in, but because of
my Southern hospitality, I did go and

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introduce myself to everybody in the room
one by one. Hey I'm Ryan,

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Hey, I'm right, you know, just just kind of butt in and

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get that out of the way.
And the first thing that happened was after

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catching up with Amy, Chris Ramsey. Shout out Chris Ramsey. He's a

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fantastic I know, you know,
but for their sake, he's a fantastic

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YouTube magician. He's amazing. Yeah, me and Case he'd been watching him

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for years. It was so crazy
to see that he was there with you,

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like that's it was. It was
awesome. Yeah, I'm very glad

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that we met. And I'm also
very glad that I didn't know who he

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was at yet. Yeah, you
know, because we we were just real

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like we really got to be together
and and just have a really good time

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together. But he walked right up
to me. First thing. He was

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like, Hey, I'm Chris.
Love your podcast, love your book.

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And I was like, oh,
okay, thank you. I was just

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taking a back. I was like, thank you, man, that's just

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I'm I'm happy to hear that man
that you know, that's really nice of

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you. But did you know,
like somewhat who he was? No at

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all. I wasn't provided with any
list of who was going to be there

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at all. I just mean,
like, had you ever heard of Chris

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Chris Ramsey before? No? I
hadn't heard of anybody. And then except

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for the four people on the list
that I knew, gotcha right, and

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that was the first thing. So
I was like, okay, so that's

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good. That's a good sign.
At least somebody here knows about the orb

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stuff, so I'm going to have
some success. And in my mind,

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I was like, day four or
five, I'm gonna just kind of plant

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the seed. Let's go skywatching after
people warm up over the week. But

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Chris had a different plan and I'll
get to that in a little bit.

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But yeah, so the orientation ends
and then about six o'clock I think we

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went and had our first class,
and I don't even remember the stuff we

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talked about in the first class.
It was just orientation. Here's gonna be

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the schedule, here's gonna be what
we do. We're gonna go to focus

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level ten to twenty one over the
week, and it was it was really

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like light and then we had dinner. No, no, no, we

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did the class, then we did
our first exercise, and then we did

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dinner. And the first exercise was
cool, and right when we got to

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the first exercise, I was say, yep, we're in for it.

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And it was thirty minutes of om
chanting. So they got us into It

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wasn't even like a focus date.
It was just laying down and listening to

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these frequencies and I literally couldn't tell
if it was five minutes, if it

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was thirty minutes. It was just
so calming. And they played these like

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these really relaxing sounds and they explained
it, this is important. So this

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was the first inkling where I was
becoming aware that they really have some profound,

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like spiritual knowledge at this place,
because I had always thought, oh,

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it's just a place where they have
frequencies, and you know, I

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didn't really know much. I didn't
know what I was getting into. And

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they were explaining that the resonance of
vowel sounds, the bones are transmitters of

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vibrations. They they carry vibrations,
and the skull is an empty cavity.

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So when you chant these sounds,
these vowel sounds, these vibrations bounce around

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in the cavity of your skull and
it permeates your brain and it sort of

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alters your state of consciousness a little
bit. And they're telling me this,

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I'm like, hmm, tell me
more, tell me more. So,

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you know, we did thirty minutes
of om chanting. It was super awesome.

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We were all buzzing. I have
a video where I was waking up

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from that, and we were all
just so relaxed. And tradition is like

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after you do the exercises in the
day of class and meditation is finished,

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everybody has popcorn together at the end
of the night. So we went up

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there and we had popcorn. I
swear to christ it was the best popcorn

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I ever had my life. And
I throw down on some popcorn. That's

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weird. For the past like two
weeks, I've had a random obsession with

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popcorn. That's weird. I've been
eating it every day. Wow, Casey,

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I had popcorn for dinner tonight.
I'm not I'm feeling a little under

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the weather today. My voice is
a little weird. But she was like,

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are you having popcorn for dinner tonight? And I was like, yeah,

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it's good, it's good. That's
weird. Yeah, that's the tradition

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there. You have it every day, like at the end of the night

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after class and all that, we
did the resonant tuning, and I was

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like, Okay, not bad.
You know, first night, I had

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only been there since four, you
know, and I felt like I was

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kind of more relaxed and able to
talk with everybody a little more openly and

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not so like jittery about like what's
going on, what's the program going to

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be like? And just all these
things. I think it's just normal to

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have this anti dissipation, like,
oh God, what's gonna happen? You

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know? Oh yeah, for sure? And we all hang out that night.

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I don't even really. I think
we all just kind of sat around

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and watched Chris Ramsey do magic for
like the rest of the night, Like

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the first night. Honestly, he
just did like so cool it was every

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night it ended up being that way. That's he just did hell of magic

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tricks and it was it was,
honestly like a dream. He's crazy.

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Some of the stuff he does the
slikeest like you know, it's all about

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the slide of hand stuff. He
has that ship down all the way.

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Oh yeah, it's unreal. Yeah, no, it's insane. I think

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that's what we did the first night. We just kind of sat around and

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he just wowed us all with magic, and everybody was laughing and cheering,

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and I was like, this is
a good crowd. This is gonna be

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a great week. So we go
to bed had a very hard time going

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to sleep the first night, being
exhausted from uh, you know, all

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the construction stuff and and and ending
that and then rushing there the next day,

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but then kind of waking up and
and and no, no, let

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me back up. I had a
hard time going to sleep. That's why

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I was exhausted the next day.
It was like they played these frequencies in

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your unit. You have these speakers
in the wall, and you have the

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headphones on the wall and something that
some other people pointed out to me too,

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so I wasn't alone in this.
It's like you sleep deep at Munroe,

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but you have a hard time going
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energy of the place. It's really
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I was up till two or three
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do you feel like it was the
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think it's just the energy of the
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up. It's this wake up call
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you're like so tired. But by
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which is like an hour, you're
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very restorative. So by about the
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don't care if I stay up late
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be fine. You're going to recoup
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the end of the week, we
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anyway, and we were all just
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last night, it was this crew
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up till one or two or three
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you know, kind of like Hogwarts
they have this common area. We had

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a common area where we would do
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like Hogwarts. It is, like, you know, it really is.

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and then class at nine. So
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about the focused levels, and I
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focus levels for a minute here,
because it's important. So back in the

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nineteen seventies, Robert Monroe was sort
of like a big wig corporate NBC guy,

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like the NBC, you know,
and back then radio was still ultra

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popular kind of like competing with TV
airs. They were like competitors totally.

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the radio division. I don't remember exactly

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what his job was, but he
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Like he was a multimillionaire, damn
very wealthy, successful NBC career. He

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wasn't seeking this stuff. He wasn't
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experiences. So one night, I
think in like nineteen seventy one, he

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was laying in bed and he bumped
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like, what the hell And he
looked up and he noticed it was the

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chandelier. And then he looked down
and he saw there was someone strangely in

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in bed with his wife. He
was like, wait a minute, that's

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me. Oh no way, and
he started spontaneously going out of body.

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Oh my god, what the hell's
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whatever, And he exhausted so much
resources like trying to figure out am I

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sick, am I dying? Am
I crazy? Am I schizophrenic? Whatever?

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He went to doctor's psychiatrist all this
stuff. He had every screen humanly

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possible, all to find out that
none of that was going on. And

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he went on to have probably thousands
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But the key here is with him
having been so savvy with radio.

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He also got involved with this scientist
named Tom Campbell, who's like a physicist.

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I can't remember exactly what his job
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or something, and Skip Atwater.
He surrounded himself with these really credentialed scientists

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and they were like, let's figure
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like fifties sixty seventies, there was
this fad where they were selling these records,

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like literal vinyl records, and it's
like, learn math equations in your

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sleep. He learned Spanish in your
sleep. And there were some studies that

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came out at the time that demonstrated
that it actually worked, that you could

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listen to sounds in your sleep and
it works. So Robert Monroe, being

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the brilliant man he is, he's
like, I can reverse engineer this state

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of contentiousness this happening to me,
and teach it to others. And then

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he thought deeply about it, and
he's like, you know, airplanes have

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twin propellers, and back in those
days, they would have the captain alter

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the vibration of them, the rotation
of them, because if they spawn at

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the same exact rpm, they would
create a frequency that was actually causing the

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pilots to fall asleep. So they
had to alter that basically make them swing

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slightly offbeat, like rotates slightly off
And Bob thought about this and he was

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like, wait a minute, if
that humming vibration sound of the propellers is

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making the captains or the pilots or
whatever fall asleep, maybe I could reverse

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engineer that too. And he's this
radio guy, so he's constantly working with

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radio in his job. So he
figured out how to modulate frequencies, get

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EEGs to reverse engineer the brain wave
states induced by freakquencies, and then reverse

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engineer those brain wave states and create
the frequencies so that it could be replicated

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and proven with accurate results. So
he basically mastered it. He figured it

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out and electro encephalogram like the brain
scan thing. Ah, So he had

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the idea. He's like, let's
put brain caps on people create these frequencies.

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Measure their brains, modulate these frequencies
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brainwave states, record those, and
then just produce them. You know.

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So it was like really deep stuff, so cool. Could you imagine like

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pioneering that like must have felt amazing, Like that's so sick. And yeah,

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so he basically created Barnol beats.
It was a concept that had been

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talked about, like it was discussed
at the time, like in magazines and

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articles and things, but he really
like crafted it. He did the work.

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few scientists like Skip out Water and

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uh Tom Campbell. So anyway,
so they mastered it and he wrote a

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book which I have. It's not
with me at the moment, but I

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think it's called Journeys out of the
Body. And he's still working for NBC

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at this point, and he goes
to this function, like some corporate NBC

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thing, and he's really like under
the radar. He's not trying to make

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money off of it. He just
wants to figure it out because it's happening

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to him. And he goes to
this function and his boss comes up to

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him and he's like, hey,
I saw that book he wrote and Bob's

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like, oh shit, they're gonna
thinks oh yeah. Oh. And He's

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like, oh man, they're gonna
think I'm crazy. And they're like it

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was amazing. This shit's amazing.
It happens to my wife literally she goes

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out of body. Thank you for
writing it. We didn't understand what was

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going on, but now it makes
sense. So Robert Monroe, he had

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this idea. He's like, wow, Okay, people are into this.

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There's a desire for this. Maybe
I could come up with an institute where

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I could teach this and like implement
than it to others. And that's that's

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a short version of the history of
who he was in the institute and how

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it was formed. And I think
it was formed in seventy one, maybe

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seventy two. And fun fact,
I was speaking with Alan, the CEO

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of Monroe, over lunch one day
and she told me we were just talking

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about how beautiful the mountain is and
it's like one of the largest crystal reserves

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on the East Coast, like it's
Courts Crystal. The mountain is like literally

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Courtz Crystal all up in it.
We were just talking about the energy of

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the place and how beautiful it is, and actually he brought Romdos to help

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him pick the location. No,
because he wanted it to be sacred,

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he wanted it to be spiritual.
So there's there's so many elements to like

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even the location of the place.
And he wasn't like living in Virginia,

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no, No, he was up
in New York and New Jersey working for

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NBC. Yeah, so it just
got to a point where he retired from

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that, left them and devoted his
life to the Institute and brought his family

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to Virginia and Romdos helped him pick
the spot. That's what Alan said.

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I the CEO, you know,
and she's she's really savvy with the history

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of the institute and yeah, that's
that's pretty amazing. She told me that.

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I was like, what, that's
some Hogwarts ship it is, let's

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pick a place next to a huge
crystal mind, like a huge crystal reserve,

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one of the biggest in the world. Dude. Yeah, oh that's

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so badass. Yeah, it's insane. It really is like just a magical,

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mysterious energy to this place. I
mean there's fireflies everywhere. There's bats,

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dozens of bats swooping all around you, chasing the fireflies. They literally

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swoop right in front of your face, and we're like, ah, you

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know, we're all hanging out in
the pool and bats are just flying over

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our head and in front of our
face and damn a pool there. Yeah,

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that's awesome. That is no.
I'm honestly, I'm sitting here listening

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to you guys, and I'm thinking, man, this would just make me

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want to swim. Oh really you
are already thinking that. That's yeah.

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I'm thinking I'm I'm putting myself there. I'm listening to Ryan and I'm like,

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man, I would just really want
to swim. Well, that's the

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thing is, like I got there
and found out there was a pool,

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and I was like, shit,
I didn't know there was a pool.

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And by the end of the week, some of us are just like I

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was in Jim Schwartz, but some
people were in boxers. Just we didn't

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care. Dude. We were all
in the pool. The last night,

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all of us were in the pool, including the instructors, and we were

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skywatching in the pool. You know, it was it was cool. Yeah.

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So I wanted to go through the
history to understand the frequency so people

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could kind of have that in their
mind when we talk about focused levels.

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So Robert was a very smart guy, very very brilliant. He was like

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a pioneer of consciousness. And he
reminds me a lot of my dad the

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more I hear his story, like
how this stuff just spontaneously happened to him

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and he devoted his life to like
figuring it out. And the thing about

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him that I love and the institute
that I especially love, is there's no

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veil of secrecy. They're not trying
to gatekeep. They're not trying to like

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keep it closed doors. Oh pay
this and you'll find out. It's actually

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the opposite. They are on a
mission to try and expand all of their

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work into the globe because they believe
that if they induce these kinds of altering

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consciousness experiences to one percent of the
world, that it'll shift the tide and

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that global consciousness would awaken. Like
that's their actual mission statement. They're not

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like some secret society shit. It's
nothing like that. It is an amazing,

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profound just open door. Everybody sign
up. You don't have to go

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through initiations and all the shit.
It's just like, I mean, it's

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not free because it costs money to
keep lights on, but sure, the

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knowledge is free, like come and
you know, everybody can have a part

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of this. We want everybody to
have a part of this. And I

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realized that day one and I was
like, Okay, I'm in the right

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place. Yeah, this is amazing. They're not like trying to recruit you

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to go and like, you know, do something like spread the word testify

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like it's it's not it's not an
MLM or some bullshit. It's like they're

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just like, come here, we'll
give you the knowledge. We're not gate

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keeping it. We want everybody to
know. I would say that's kind of

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very similar to our mission statement.
Yes it is. It's the same thing.

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When they told me that, I
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mine's the same. Except for some
reason, I had the number fifty one

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percent in my head, like if
fifty one percent of the world sees something

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that, you know, if it's
more than half, maybe it would tip.

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But Robert was like, we just
need one percent. I believe that.

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So that's about eighty million people of
the world. So they're on a

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ten year mission right now to try
to expand and reach eighty million people.

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And that's why they brought us.
That's why they brought the content creators because

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we can help boost the message.
So it's an amazing place. Man.

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Day one, I realized, Okay, this is going to be profound.

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And yeah, actually, in the
original days, Robert Monroe's first mission was

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five thousand people. That was it, yep, before it was the Gateway

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Experience. I think he called it
M five thousand, and his mission was

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if he reached five people, he
believed it would change the world. Wow.

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And they did that in like two
years, and they're like, okay,

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well, maybe we need a bigger
number. You know. Now it's

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been tens of thousands of people around
the world have come, and they have

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like forty trainers around the world,
and they have like European locations, and

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they have like remote satellite facilities around
the world. So oh do they yeah

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wow Yeah. And even those,
even those smaller numbers, the five thousand

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to ten thousand whatever, it does
change the world in some sort of way.

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It does, Yeah, it does. It may not be like what

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they're looking for in terms of like
changing awakening collective consciousness, but it all

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matters, and I think the world
does feel it. Yeah, you know,

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no, they're definitely making a difference
from the jump. I had the

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sense that they were completely aligned with
us, just what we're doing. They

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love us, they love our show. They told me that because of us

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that the phone they get calls like
yeah, people wanting to go. But

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you know, we've been talking about
them forever. But it was just an

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amazing thing. And I definitely had
the sense that it was no coincidence that

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I was there, that we were
involved, that my dad and sister had

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been there twice. Again, there's
a second thing that you know, we'll

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be able to talk more about later, But it was just this circle in

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my mind that was completing, like, Okay, this is very weird to

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be here right now. And let
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one part of day one, all
of us that got there, I had

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to go through a one on one
interview with the trainers, so I met

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with Maya. We had two trainers, Archie and Maya. Amazing people.

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Archies from Spain, Maya's from Lithuania, and I feel like that kind of

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added to the experience of being in
this like alternate world away from society,

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and then having these trainers who both
were from different places too. It just

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kind of added a little bit of
a mystique to the experience and their cultural

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backgrounds, you know. And right
off the bat, I got the vibe

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from Maya that she was like like
a Ramdas or like a like a you

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know, like yeah, I kept
telling her that, like, I don't

410
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:06.960
mean this in a bad way,
but you remind me of someone who has

411
00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:08.240
studied in India. And she's like
I did. I lived in India for

412
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:18.079
two years. And she was asking
me on these questions and I just got

413
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.279
the sense when I was speaking to
her day one, I was like,

414
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:25.319
Okay, this is not just a
place where you know, scientists are pressing

415
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:30.599
play on a soundboard and running frequencies
like these are really spiritual people. These

416
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.799
are like monks, These are like
you know, wizards, whatever you want

417
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.200
to think. Like I was beginning
to see, like, Okay, there's

418
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.079
something really deep here, you know, the real Yeah, it's the real

419
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.680
deal. There was a little literal
magician there. Yeah. We talked a

420
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.400
lot about that too. We we
had some pretty funny synchronicities with him being

421
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.079
a magician, not necessarily synchronicities,
but just like you know, him having

422
00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.359
these profound spiritual awakenings. And then
me telling him. I'm like, dude,

423
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.720
I mean, you know, you're
literally symbolically playing with magical forces.

424
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.480
I mean you're kind of towing the
line there already, yeah, you know,

425
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.759
in your day job, but now
you're here where the real magic is.

426
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.000
Yeah, it was, you know. We talked a lot about that

427
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.920
and with Chris. But so back
to Maya. So she had the kanji

428
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.279
symbol on her neck and which kanji
for fire, fire? Yeah, for

429
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.200
fire, and and her name was
Maya. So I was like, oh,

430
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.880
Maya, beautiful name. It's like
the illusion the veil of Maya.

431
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.839
Really cool. And she's you know, because she's from Lithuania and I think

432
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.200
she went to India for a while
and lived there for two years. That

433
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:44.319
kept coming up. But something about
her language crossed with it was either India

434
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.319
or maybe it was English, I
don't know, but they said the word

435
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.880
illusion, and she thought they were
calling her a loser. You know.

436
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.599
Oh they were saying illusion to her, like in the like Maya, yeah,

437
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.119
yeah, because Maya is illusion,
a loser. Yeah. And we

438
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.519
got a little laugh out of that. I felt good about our chat and

439
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.359
I was like, Okay, I'm
in really good hands. These are some

440
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:11.519
very very spiritual people, if you
don't mind sharing what kind of questions like

441
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.920
just general, I'm just I would
just love to know out of my curio.

442
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.720
It was just like what do you
expect coming here? Things like that,

443
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.519
why why are you here? What
are you looking to get out of

444
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.039
this? But in a very friendly
way and a very like in a very

445
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.759
I mean I can't remember all the
questions, to be honest, that probably

446
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.640
is important, but they're probably trying
to make sure that like people's intentions are

447
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.960
pure right and they're there for the
right reasons, because it could like if

448
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.599
somebody's there for the wrong reasons,
it could spoil it for everyone, right,

449
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.920
it could. Yeah, And also
they were very worried because this was

450
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.440
the first ever content creator program.
They had a little bit of nerves about

451
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:53.240
are these people coming here? Are
they going to be like focused only on

452
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.079
the content and not taking it seriously? And then day one they realized kind

453
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.759
of like how we were nervous,
they stopped being nervous. They're like,

454
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.440
Okay, these students are the real
deal. Yeah, you know, everybody

455
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:10.240
broke down and had this amazing like
I feeling about I can't help but wonder

456
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:15.240
like did they like vet people or
is it just all purely organic? And

457
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.000
was it just like it was organic? Yeah, Like now that's even crazier

458
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:26.160
because that means that like just the
magnetic energy brought like authentic, real people,

459
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:32.200
like seekers of this knowledge together.
Yeah, like the people putting on,

460
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.279
like the people that work at the
Monroe Institute and the people who were

461
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:41.640
coming for this retreat, like those
pure intentions magnetized and you all found each

462
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.759
other. Yeah, organically, that's
what happened. That's kind of insane,

463
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.839
Like that's wild. Most of the
people were recommended by one guy, Shawn

464
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.240
Webb. Seawan Webb, he works
for the Monroe Institute. No, he's

465
00:30:55.400 --> 00:31:00.960
he has his own content called he
wrote a book called Minding Happiness and it's

466
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.720
a really profound book and he taught
me the method. It's really cool.

467
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:08.640
It's like basically, I don't remember
what year it was, but he had

468
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.240
this entity experience very similar to Dad, where his consciousness was kind of like

469
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.799
out of body and he, for
lack of better words, he was kind

470
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.079
of up in space and he was
speaking to God and God gave him this

471
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.720
this download of information and he came
back and was able to verify it.

472
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.160
Through science. So he wrote a
book called mind Hacking Happiness, and it's

473
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:36.960
how to like hack the brain to
reach certain emotional states. And it's basically

474
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.599
like, if you're upset about an
event that happened, something you can do

475
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.880
to neutralize the amygdala, which is
the part of your brain that has like

476
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.200
negative emotional responses. You can think
about an event like let's say something happens

477
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.640
right now that you're upset about.
In the moment, you think like,

478
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.599
Okay, this is what I expected
to happen, this is what did happen,

479
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.400
expected to happen, did happen,
And you cycle it in your over

480
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.200
and over and over, and it
just calms down the amigdala where you're not

481
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:07.680
so upset about certain uh stimuli anymore. WHOA And he was able to verify

482
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:13.759
that this it's like highlighting perspective,
like yeah, that that switching back and

483
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.680
forth between those two scenarios, because
that's where like real disappointment comes from,

484
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.880
is when the real thing doesn't having
the attachment yeah to the outcome, to

485
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.799
the outcome exactly. This is super
interesting because if I think about the times

486
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:31.119
that I've been frustrated with the situation, I've called Olivia and talked about it

487
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.799
and said, this is what I
expected to happen, and this is what

488
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.759
happened, and that's why I'm upset. And then we hang up and I

489
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.240
feel better. Wow, like and
I'm like, oh, she's awesome,

490
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:46.119
but really I'm just mind hacking happiness
apparently. Yeah, Wow, I'd like

491
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.599
to read that book. Yeah,
he's he's gonna come out. He's he

492
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.799
lives in Charlotte, no way.
Yeah, so he'll definitely be here.

493
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:57.519
Okay, I got to read it
before he comes then, like, so

494
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.200
we got to figure that out.
But he's a very he's a great guy.

495
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.799
He's a very gentle soul, and
he's been to Monroe a lot of

496
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.480
times. And he did a video
about them on TikTok. They got like

497
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.319
a million views or something and their
phone started ring, ring, ring,

498
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:10.000
ring ring, you know, going
off the hook, and they're like,

499
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:14.640
dang, dude, we like you. So they kind of worked with him

500
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.079
to create this event, and most
of the people that were there were like

501
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:22.200
recommended by him that you know,
he became aware of their content or it

502
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.279
was just organic like oh this guy
makes cool content. Oh this guy makes

503
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.319
it just came together, you know, and it came together like perfectly.

504
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:31.440
Everybody had pure intentions and that's all. By the end of the week,

505
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.319
we were all crying, don't want
to leave each other. But yeah,

506
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.000
there were there were a bunch of
amazing people there. And I'm gonna get

507
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.319
a little bit more into the rest
of the people because we hadn't even started

508
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.880
yet, we haven't even started the
first exercise. So yeah, So Maya.

509
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:51.160
The first thing she said to me
was she looked at me and she

510
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.400
said, I just want to look
at you for a bit. This is

511
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.480
the first night, the first day, oh, getting there off the road

512
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.920
Saturday. She looked at me,
She's like, I just want to look

513
00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:01.559
at you for a little bit,
get a feeling for you. And she

514
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.960
stared into my eyes. And normally
I don't like to just like stare in

515
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.000
silence and people's eyes, but I
was like, you know what, I'm

516
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.280
here at Hogwarts. I'm gonna do
it. I'm going to just give up.

517
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.039
I'm gonna let go, and I'm
gonna do it. And I did.

518
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:19.880
And she had the most just beautiful, friendly aura, just the most

519
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:24.039
like calm and disarming, and I
could feel that there was nothing threatening about

520
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:30.440
her. And that she just really
was there out of love and passion and

521
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.440
you know, devoting her life to
this. And I was like okay,

522
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.760
and she said you feel things from
people, don't you. And I was

523
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.119
like, yeah, I do.
Actually I always have. And she's like,

524
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:46.719
hmm, what do you expect to
get out of this? I said,

525
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.840
honestly nothing. I didn't come here
expecting anything. I came here just

526
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.159
to show up and let go of
any expectation and whatever happens happens. And

527
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.920
she's like, okay, but what
if you did that but also set an

528
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:06.559
intention? And I was like,
huh, I've never thought about that.

529
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:15.119
I never thought about that. That's
a great idea. She's like, you

530
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.320
could set an intention. You know. Meanwhile, you had this whole secret

531
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.800
mission in the back of your head. Yeah, I guess I did have

532
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:29.480
an intention. I should set an
intention. Yeah, I did have that

533
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:36.199
intention. But you're taking the secret
mission, real, dude, it was

534
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:40.039
so secret even you forgot. But
I but in response to the out of

535
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:45.239
body experience, yeah, I didn't
even believe it was possible for me.

536
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:46.519
For some reason. I think a
lot of people feel that way about a

537
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.519
lot of things, like the ORBS, it's like, oh, I'm not

538
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.199
worthy. I'm not it's not possible
for me to see him. It's like,

539
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.000
yeah, it is right, it
is. Yeah, it's possible for

540
00:35:54.079 --> 00:36:01.159
everybody, you know, not but
anybody is more special than the other where

541
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:07.159
it's more possible for them. It's
just about how you believe in belief,

542
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.239
yeah, and what you know and
the intention you set. And they talked

543
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.679
about things very similarly, similarly to
the way my dad did too, like

544
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.519
about having a knowing about certain things
and you know, going out of your

545
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.599
physical body and stuff. So I
was like, yeah, that's a good

546
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.599
idea. Actually, I guess I
could set an attention. And the interview

547
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.760
ended. Then we ended that night, we did the thirty minutes of home

548
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:27.760
chant. Okay, now moving on
to the next day. So we get

549
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.480
up, we have the breakfast,
we go to our first class, and

550
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.880
the cool thing about Monroe is,
back in the old days before cell phones,

551
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.519
you actually had to remove your watch
and leave it in a basket for

552
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.679
the whole week, Like you're not
even supposed to no time. But they

553
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.760
don't have like clocks anywhere, No, they do, but you're not supposed

554
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.480
to observe time. You're not supposed
to pay attention. Gotcha, You're supposed

555
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.840
to just forget about your watch and
let go of the attachment. And everything

556
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.559
is signaled by a bell. So
it's like class ding bell ding? Did

557
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:02.519
I say bell ding? Meditated dinner? Dan? Hey, let me get

558
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.119
a video of you hitting the bell
ding. You know, it's it's just

559
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.719
bells, you know, for everything. I don't want to take us off

560
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:13.960
track here, but that did make
me think my last mushroom trip, I

561
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:19.599
was wearing my watch and everything around
me was changing. Everything in my head,

562
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.159
you know, I was having a
whole experience. The only thing that

563
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.880
was constant was my watch. Wow, the hands never nothing on the watch

564
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.280
ever distorted, ever wavered, and
it was like this anchor. It was

565
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:37.400
very interesting. That's crazy. That's
crazy because like sometime last year, I

566
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.960
was at your apartment and we had
taken rooms and I was like it was

567
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:44.760
a lot. I was. I
mean, I didn't take a lot,

568
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.440
but the experience was kind of intense
and I was kind of freaking out and

569
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.000
I didn't know what to do.
And I literally like stared at the clock

570
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:53.880
on my phone, like you know
how you can open up the alarm at

571
00:37:54.079 --> 00:38:01.679
six hours, like you can look
at the clock on the and I just

572
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.880
looked at it, and that like
calmed me down for a good like five

573
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.119
minutes. I just looked at it
and I just watched the passing of time,

574
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.480
and I was like, time's still
moving. I'm still here. It's

575
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.800
okay. I'm fucking tripping right now, but I'm fine. That's crazy,

576
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.880
that's crazy. That's that's the worst, man, when you think it's going

577
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:22.280
to be forever. Oh, the
first time I ever did it, I

578
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.440
was like, that's it. It's
been an hour. Yeah, the first

579
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:28.639
time ever. I was like,
this is the rest of my life.

580
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.760
Yes, I was like, this
is going to be the rest of my

581
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.440
life. Anyway, Monroe been there. So we get to the first class,

582
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.840
right, and we start learning about
the focused levels. So I told

583
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.199
the whole history, so we understand
that Robert Monroe, this isn't just like

584
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:45.840
hokey stuff, like it's sciences.
It's prestigious, it's methodical, it was

585
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:52.320
replicated with physicists. And obviously Joe
mcmonaga got involved too. He married his

586
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:59.480
daughter, He married Robert Monroe's daughter, what yeah, his stepdaughter. That's

587
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.360
so cool. Yeah, And like
he was surrounded by these highly qualified,

588
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.920
highly credential people that helped him like
figure out how to refine the process so

589
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.760
it was replicatable and perfected, right, which is that that's science. When

590
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:16.599
you can replicate it, right,
that's science. And it's and it's also

591
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:22.199
it came from a genuine it came
because he was experiencing this. It's not

592
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.119
like he like read about it somewhere
and then decided to like, it's very

593
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.360
personal, down to the very beginning
of it. Yeah, you know,

594
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:35.199
yeah, that's awesome. Eventually,
as he so, the first time was

595
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:37.960
an existential shock, and he thought
he was dying all that stuff, and

596
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.440
as it began to happen every night
as he was asleep, kind of like

597
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.400
Dad with the orbs, it just
kept happening to him. And the first

598
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:49.800
probably dozens of times maybe more,
was I don't want to go anywhere.

599
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.400
I don't know what to do I
want I'm afraid to be away from my

600
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.840
body. I might not ever be
able to return. The first time,

601
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:58.880
he crawled back into his body,
like I have to get back into my

602
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.760
freaking body. Over time he started
to realize I'm okay, let me walk

603
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.880
to the next room. Okay,
now, let me walk outside, let

604
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.840
me keep going, let me go
down the street, let me go higher

605
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.679
and hire, let me leave the
planet. And eventually he started going to

606
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:20.280
other realms and speaking with like higher
entities. And this is how seriously,

607
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.920
whoa Seriously, this is how they
got all the knowledge was because thousands of

608
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.480
times going out of body, he
started going to other worlds and he started

609
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:34.599
communicating with these intelligences that taught him
things. Now, the important thing is

610
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.559
ninety nine percent of the stuff that
I learned at the Monroe Institute won a

611
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:46.199
hundred percent meshes with the wisdom tradition
knowledge that we have been researching and talking

612
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:52.920
about on this show. Things that
he learned from entities in the astral world,

613
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.840
which for me was very profound.
When I was there learning a lot

614
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.320
of this stuff, I was like, holy shit, Like everything my whole

615
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.079
life I've been studying, it's right
here. This is real, Like,

616
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:08.440
this is a school where this shit
they know it. Yeah, they live

617
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:13.239
it, they experience it. You
know. It's all about thought forms and

618
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.719
vibrations and all this stuff. So
he was so smart that he figured out

619
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:28.239
how to encode this mystical experiential process
of leaving the body and enjoying altered states

620
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:35.599
of consciousness and destigmatizing it completely,
removing it from any religious label, and

621
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.440
he created new terms. So he
came up with the idea of the focus

622
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:43.039
levels. So you have focused one
or see one. That's normal consciousness.

623
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.159
Everybody's in focus one all the time. Then it goes up to focus ten,

624
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:50.519
where your mind is your mind is
awake, but your body's asleep.

625
00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.440
And the funny thing is a lot
of people report hearing snoring in the room

626
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.440
and they're like, oh wait,
just me, but you're awake. So

627
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:01.400
Focus ten is kind of like the
entry level to out of body. Yeah,

628
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.360
I mean it's hard to say because
it's different for everybody. Like the

629
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.719
first out of body happened for me
at focus twelve. For some people it

630
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:12.880
was fifteen. For some people it
was twenty one. Where that's the intro

631
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.159
to you know, it's like everybody's
different. Yeah, I think in the

632
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:21.679
sense what it takes to get there. But yeah, focused ten is the

633
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.280
doorway to like deep states of meditation. It's where your mind is awake.

634
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.360
Maybe nothing mystical is happening per se, but you're such a threshold of meditation

635
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.360
that your body is physically asleep.
That's the thing. I forgot to say

636
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.480
that when he was like perfecting the
method with the waves and stuff, he

637
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:44.840
figured out how to induce the brain
right on that little hair trigger threshold of

638
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.639
literally falling asleep and being in meditation. Like, he figured out how to

639
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.559
guide the brain there and keep it
there and keep going deeper into that state

640
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.239
without falling asleep. So, like, your body is asleep, but you

641
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.880
are not asleep. Yeah, your
mind is fully awake. You can even

642
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:04.960
be snoring, you are wide awake. Wow. Yeah. So I have

643
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.639
a question, and I don't know
if you know the answer to this is

644
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:13.199
if you're in this state, is
your body? Are the repair functions of

645
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.000
sleep happening to your body? Yeah? Don't you remember when I said by

646
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:19.039
about day three, I was like, I don't care if I step up

647
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.679
till three am. Yeah, I'm
gonna be You'll be fine meditating for six

648
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:23.880
hours tomorrow. Yeah, Yeah,
I got you. But like, but

649
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:29.960
like the repair that happens in sleep
like all of so, so essentially you

650
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.400
could do this and never really sleep, but never feel the effects and the

651
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.679
fatigue of not sleeping. I mean, you'd have to ask a professional about

652
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.599
that one man. Yeah, but
maybe I'll take my questions when I go.

653
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.400
Yeah, because I'm very interested.
I'm sure they would have some like

654
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.639
some sort of experience with that.
I mean, but yeah, I mean,

655
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.000
you do feel rested. Like literally, I'd be up three am one

656
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.760
night, get up at you know, seven. I would sometimes turn off

657
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.880
to six thirty, wake up,
get up at seven or eight the next

658
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.760
morning. I'm so tired. My
cup of coffee. During the first class,

659
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.360
you dive into meditation. You're like, that was great. You're wide

660
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.199
awake, and everybody's like, whoa
hoo. You know. We made jokes

661
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.599
about it, like who cares about
going a bit early? Yeah, yeah,

662
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.239
we're going to lay around all day. They're going to meditate and recoup

663
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.000
all the energy anyway. Literally,
you'll be fine. So these are the

664
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.239
focused levels. This is just the
pamphlet that they gave me, and it

665
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.719
goes up to Focus forty nine.
So throughout Robert Munroe's out of body journeys

666
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.280
and during the course of several years, he mapped territories. As he called

667
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:30.519
them. These territories are locales remain
consistent with specific deep state levels of consciousness.

668
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.039
His subjective experience of each local was
the same every time he entered the

669
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.719
state of awareness associated with it.
To avoid using mystical or religious language to

670
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:44.920
describe these territories, he numbered them, calling them focus levels. So this

671
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:49.880
is basically the foundation of the institute. So Focus one, that's literally right

672
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.880
now, your your base level,
content, base level, physical space,

673
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:57.960
time, reality rules. Focus ten
Mind awake, body of sleep a state

674
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.119
of consciousness where the physical body is
asleep, the mind is awaken. Alert

675
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:06.920
consciousness is fully retained without dependence upon
signals from the physical body. One learns

676
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:13.360
to ride the edge of sleep.
So I wrote down some notes from my

677
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:17.360
class when we were doing intro to
Focus ten, which was technically day two,

678
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:20.360
but it was day one of classes
because you know, we got there

679
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.840
in the evening. So in the
outside world we achieved things through effort,

680
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:29.679
and the inside world we achieved things
through intention. Which is crazy because the

681
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.159
day before Mile was like, but
have you set an intention? And I

682
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:36.559
was like, huh, there's this
theme of intention throughout the week right by

683
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.679
the way, Did you set an
intention? I eventually did. Yeah.

684
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.519
My intention from the beginning was,
like I said, it was my secret

685
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.400
mission for everybody to see orbs because
I thought was some things coming down the

686
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:52.079
pipe and just being there with it
just being such a magical week. I

687
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:53.559
was like, I want everybody to
see because I think that would be amazing

688
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:58.480
and it would just make the whole
thing more magical. The other thing I

689
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.599
wrote down that they expressed gratitude places
you in a different state of consciousness,

690
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:06.239
which is something we've talked about many
times on the show. That was another

691
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.400
wonderful thing about being there is a
lot of things that we have found on

692
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:14.239
our own just to research. I
feel like they were validating a lot of

693
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:19.320
our effort. That just hearing it
from them felt very validating that we've been

694
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.440
on the right track. You know, they've been doing the scientific work for

695
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.559
fifty years. Yes, literally,
yeah, more more than fifty years.

696
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.760
Yeah, So it was it was
very validating being there knowing like, Okay,

697
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.800
we're not crazy. We are trying
to, you know, figure this

698
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.679
thing out here, and we're not
necessarily on the wrong track, you know.

699
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:47.039
And and there's like some very prestigious
qualified individuals who who who agree with

700
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.800
me, like, wow, this
is awesome. You know, it's not

701
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.599
just talking to a camera and hoping, you know, it all makes sense.

702
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.920
It felt very real being there,
and it's like, you know,

703
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:01.000
it's obviously amazing being around like my
minded people period, that right, obviously

704
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.400
great. But when you're around like
minded people who are like putting in like

705
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.880
they've devoted their lives, it's their
life, it's their career, that's got

706
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:15.440
to be even more so like profound
and reassuring. Yeah, that's amazing.

707
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.639
Yeah, it was unbelievable. So
gratitude places you in a different state of

708
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.159
consciousness. And that's the thing.
Before I get into like what it was

709
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.000
like being in the focused in state, I want to read the affirmation because

710
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:31.199
this is the one doctrine of the
Monroe Institute. This is the single creed.

711
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.599
You don't have to be religious.
You don't have to, you know,

712
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.719
observe certain traditions and rights and rituals. You don't have to you know,

713
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.000
forsake your family and go live in
the forest. You don't have to

714
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.960
put you know, ash on your
forehead and give up sugar for forty days.

715
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.800
None of that matters. Yeah,
none of that really matters. The

716
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.320
only thing that matters at Monroe is
we understand that we are more than our

717
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:58.119
physical body, and that's why anything
is possible. That's why all of this

718
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.800
is possible. So that is the
one doctrine. You are more than your

719
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.760
physical body. Actually, it's right
here on the journal. You are more

720
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.880
than your physical body. Oh wow, Yeah, they give you those journals.

721
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.159
Yeah, because you're supposed to journal
everything. And there is an official

722
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.199
Gateway Voyage affirmation which I highly recommend
everybody at home memorize the core elements of

723
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.360
this. Whether you want to do
this or not, it doesn't matter.

724
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.440
And it's I am more than my
physical body. Because I am more than

725
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.159
physical matter, I can perceive that
which is greater than the physical world.

726
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:36.119
Therefore, I deeply desire to expand, to experience, to know, to

727
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.880
understand, to control, to use
such greater energies and energy systems as may

728
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:44.960
be beneficial and constructive to me and
to those who follow me. Also,

729
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.440
I deeply desire the help and cooperation, the assistance, the understanding of those

730
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.880
individuals whose wisdom, development, and
experience are equal to or greater than my

731
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:59.599
own. I ask their guidance protection
from any influencer or any source that might

732
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:04.119
provide even less than my stated desires. That's the official affirmation, but they

733
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.559
were very clear, they're like you
can modify it. You can remember the

734
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.519
four key elements. I forgot to
say. They add gratitude. It's not

735
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.000
written, but they're like, but
you need to express gratitude. That has

736
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:15.280
to be added. We have found
that it alters your mind to be in

737
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:19.840
a more receptive state, which makes
sense. We did a whole episode on

738
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.719
it. Yeah, the gratitude one
of the most magical things you can literally

739
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.800
do. Yeah. Literally, So
they were like, you don't have to

740
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.119
memorize the whole thing. You can
keep the four key elements. And part

741
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:35.880
of the actual preparatory process to leave
the body is the final stage of the

742
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.000
prep before you get to the focus
levels. This is the affirmation. You

743
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.400
just think it. You don't even
have to say it. You could keep

744
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.559
it as simple. This is what
I did, and it clearly worked for

745
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.199
me. I'm more than my physical
body. I am seeking to explore this

746
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.039
element of my divine existence. I
ask my guides. I changed it every

747
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.440
time. Maybe sometimes it was my
Grandpa's maybe sometimes it was the Holy Trinity,

748
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:58.440
just something good, you know.
Yeah, I ask for assistance from

749
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:04.280
my guides and I thank you.
You know, just just keep the core

750
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.039
elements of this you you recite this
in your mind because you're setting the intention.

751
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.920
Can you say that your version one
more time, I had like forty

752
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.480
just just for the people listening,
just one more time. Well, it's

753
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.840
it was different. It was like
it depended on what happened last time.

754
00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.119
If it was a shocking out of
body, I would go extra heavy on

755
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.840
the I want the whole host of
angels, the whole being. I want

756
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.239
my grandfather, both my grandfathers,
the Holy Trinity, the Lady Ship,

757
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.079
bring God. I want everybody.
I was like, everybody, keep me

758
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.599
safe this time, keep me comfortable
because because the last time was freaky,

759
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.519
ring them all ring, hold my
hand care. I'm telling you, man,

760
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:50.800
I changed it every time. But
yeah, no, it's it's just

761
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.239
the core element there is I deeply
to. The first one is I'm more

762
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.760
than my physical body. Second element, I want to explore this right.

763
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.519
I'm seeking to perceive that which is
greater than my physical body. I just

764
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.599
dropped all my stuff. You're like
asking for it. Yes. The third

765
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:15.840
element is I want help from whoever
positive benevolent force. I want to help

766
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.280
me. And then the fourth element
that was added later is the gratitude,

767
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.000
thank you for helping me. You
know, keep it simple, so focus

768
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:30.360
ten. Drop my freaking that's right
that you got Yeah, okay. So

769
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.719
I felt deeply relaxed and didn't have
a sense of time. I had multiple

770
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:39.760
flashes of inspiration regarding certain things,
like about the podcast and you know,

771
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.639
because it's been so hard to like
stay on top of it with all the

772
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.400
move and stuff. So I was
like, okay, okay, I got

773
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:49.679
some pretty cool ideas, and this
is nice. You know, day one

774
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.199
it's just snoozy, man, just
focus ten. I was like, this

775
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:59.840
is pretty nice. The second time, so the second meditation exercise we did,

776
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.679
so it was like class nine am
and then meditate and then right back

777
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:05.880
to class. When we wake up, you're supposed journal and goes straight to

778
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.360
class. So the second time we
did the resident energy balloon, which is

779
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:14.000
something that I wanted to emphasize.
So they taught us about the affirmation.

780
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:19.159
They taught us about the energy conversion
box, which is very cool concept.

781
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.800
And and by the way, these
are things that could be practiced daily,

782
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.760
meditating or not. I asked all
these questions because I learned from one of

783
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:36.199
my mentors, Sataru Gojo from Jiujitsu
Kaisen. I was like, no way.

784
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:42.239
There's somebody named Gojo in that in
the Monroe Institute. No no,

785
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.079
no no. But in season two
of Jiu Jitsu Kaisen, there's a scene

786
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:51.159
where it shows him developing his abilities, and at one point he's like,

787
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:58.320
I eventually figured out how to automate
this in my subconscious mind where my basically

788
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.800
you know, psychic energy barrier is
on up. So when they started teaching

789
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:06.119
about this, I'm like, can
I automate this? Can I constantly think

790
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:07.840
about this? And they're like,
yeah, wow, there's only one way

791
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.280
to find out, right. I
was like, damn right, you know,

792
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.480
so I've been constantly trying to think
about this. But so they taught

793
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.760
us about the energy conversion box and
the the resonant energy balloon. This is

794
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:25.760
reminiscent of psychology, the resident the
energy conversion box. Actually, I did

795
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.800
a therapy session one time and she
made me make a magic box to put

796
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.039
all my worries in. But I
thought it was silly. I didn't really

797
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.840
take it serious. But so the
energy conversion box, and you guys should

798
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.440
should visualize this to the best of
your ability. You want to imagine anything,

799
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.880
you can imagine. It's a heavy
it could be a box, It

800
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.719
could be a chest, it could
be a locker, it could be anything,

801
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.000
just like a heavy storage facility.
Visualize it however you want. Mine

802
00:53:53.039 --> 00:54:01.360
is this really big amethyst crystal chest
with with the without the UFO, just

803
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.400
the circle like the Philosopher's Stone sigil
on the front, and then on the

804
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.800
top there's a Metatron's cube and then
when you open it, there's shining white

805
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:13.360
light inside, and the corners and
the inside are lined with copper, and

806
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.480
then it's got sexy gold trim.
You think about whatever you want. You

807
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.480
visualize the details of this box.
When you're going into states of meditation,

808
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.039
you take your worries and you leave
them in the box. You take your

809
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.280
doubts and your fears and you leave
them in the box. Anytime during meditation

810
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.840
something pops in your mind. In
the box, you know what I mean.

811
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.559
It's an energy conversion box. You're
converting these doubts and negativities and insecurities

812
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.159
and fears putting them in the box. It's this magic box that can take

813
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:46.519
any of your negativity away. That's
step one step two of the preparatory process.

814
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:51.039
Well technically step one is they play
waves, ocean waves, to relax

815
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.159
you. Then you have the energy
conversion box. Then you have the om

816
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.679
chanting, because that's why we did
that the first night, were we were

817
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.320
changing our vibration for the rest of
the week. Then you do a couple

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minutes of home chanting every meditation.
You could do E or ah or whatever

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vowel you want, it doesn't matter. You want the vibrations bouncing around in

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your skull. And then you do
the resonant energy balloon. And this particular

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technique is reminiscent of Rosicruci magic,
gnostic magic, all these different ancient occult

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practices. I want to be careful
putting a label to it, but it's

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things that we have studied and things
we have discussed. It is a very

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ancient practice and it's visualizing. It's
basically a form of visualizing energy. And

825
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I've always heard about these techniques and
I thought, wow, so cool,

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but never really took it serious.
Tried it a couple of times, you

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know, I'm like, this is
cool, but didn't really pursue it.

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But this is a foundational part of
the preparatory process that you must do every

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time, and it is very important, and I've come to believe it is

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very real, and you folks on
white light coming from the top of your

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crown out of your head, and
it fountains out of your head in all

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directions and goes around your body,
and then it fountains back up into your

833
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feet like a terroidal field. And
then that energy when it enters through your

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feet, it spirals through the center
of your being up back to your head,

835
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fountains out of your head, and
you're creating a trus field of magnetic

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energy. And you constantly keep this
visual going. And when you meditate,

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you focus on this, You focus
on this, and eventually, I'm telling

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you, dude, you can do
it all the time throughout the day.

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You'll start to feel the tingles in
your head and in your feet. You'll

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start to feel it vibrating. And
then after doing it for so long,

841
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so many different sessions, they teach
you how to subconsciously program it into your

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brain where you can think of a
switch and it'll activate. And the Monroe

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switch, I'll just go ahead and
say it, because it can still be

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programmed. The Monroe switch is because
this is first achieved in the focus ten

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state. You think of a glowing
circle of light with the number ten in

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the center of it. This is
what this is Monro's method. But they're

847
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like, but you can make your
own. You can create your own subconscious

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symbolism. It doesn't matter. So
you think of this glowing circle of light

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with the number ten, and you
take a deep breath and then you visualize

850
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you're blowing out the circle. You're
blowing out the circle with the number ten

851
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in it. You're just you're exhaling
it out of your body. After so

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many times of doing this throughout the
week, you do this trigger and immediately

853
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.880
you hit an altered state, or
at least I did, and you fill

854
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.559
the vibrations in your head and in
your feet and it's just like boom.

855
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You can instantly recall this state.
Whoa. And the idea is that it

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keeps your energy from leaking out,
but it keeps negative energies from permeating your

857
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energy field. That's the idea of
the force field. Yes type thing.

858
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:58.159
Yes, because when you're going out
of body, you want to be protected,

859
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of course. Yeah. Yeah.
And I started to realize that's orps

860
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:15.119
Oh my whoa, hold up,
that's crazy. Whoa, it's orps yo.

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That blew my mind a little bit. That blew mind when I was

862
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sitting there learning it. It's orps. Weird things happened in the backyard Blodsoe

863
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:37.559
House. Ship. Look up.
It was so weird, coming closer to

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my straight like smirling on the inside
of it. No one knows that.

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Wow, it's come right over.
Got sad and happy, happy,