WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.880 It's time for Coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:12.400 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:16.320 off our show, idiots. The kids are playing or trail off. The 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.960 countries are screwing it up. Gold Play inter Murals, Brother, gold Play 5 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:24.000 inn Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:49.079 Now? Here's Nick Coffee. I can't give many examples, but I feel 8 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:55.600 like every now and then there is a massive development story within college basketball in 9 00:00:55.640 --> 00:01:00.600 the offseason that nobody seems to have seen coming. Again, I can't give 10 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.519 you any any examples, but I just feel like this has happened before. 11 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.640 But maybe I'm wrong. And what I'm referring to is the big news that 12 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:15.200 the Los Angeles Lakers are apparently all in on making Yukon head coach Danny Hurley 13 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:19.959 their next head coach. And when I say all in, I mean they 14 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.120 that's who they want. They're gonna make him a big offer. I guess 15 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:27.239 the offer hasn't been made just yet, but I saw it this morning. 16 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:33.319 I got up at about it was about seven o'clock. I suppose I woke 17 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.519 up not on my own, but my son. He needed more milk, 18 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:40.920 so I had to get up and uh after I got him his bottle. 19 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.680 And yes, he's a four year old and still times wakes up want in 20 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.359 a bottle. We gotta we gotta shake that. He did give up the 21 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.400 passivefire, like that's gone. So that's one thing we've we've done that you 22 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:55.719 know is a sign of him growing. But the bottle is still something that 23 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.120 you know, and what makes it bad is that, like it's not uncommon 24 00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:01.159 for a kid to want some milk before they go to bed or at night, 25 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:04.920 but he has to have it in a bottle like he's a baby, 26 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:06.560 which you know, we got we got to move on for them. But 27 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.560 nonetheless, when I'm walking back to to to give him his bottle, I 28 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:14.080 got my phone out, pop it open, and I see Danny Hurley is 29 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.439 in play for the uh Laker's job. And I see that it is from 30 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:23.439 a blue check and it is from an account that you know, I'm familiar 31 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:28.560 with woj But it's the second time in the last two weeks where I saw 32 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:34.120 Woje tweet something and just assumed it has to be fake, because right now 33 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.360 you can easily just from just just when you were, when you're on the 34 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:43.240 timeline, you see that appear, rather it be because you follow or somebody 35 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.000 retweets it, or it's in that you know, for you section where they'll 36 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:51.479 show you some stuff that they think you might want to see on the algorithm, 37 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.039 but you know, maybe you don't follow set accounts, So I just 38 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:58.599 assume, you know, hey, despite looking like woj saying the name is 39 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.159 Adrian woljen Rowski and it having a blue check, once I click on the 40 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:06.280 profile, I'm sure at that point it'll show me that this is somebody that 41 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.599 you know, has a couple hundred followers that just tried to troll people. 42 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:14.080 Then you see six point three million followers and you realize that's the real Woach. 43 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:16.479 So it wasn't, you know, something that I just couldn't believe, 44 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:21.680 like what it's more of, like where'd that come from? Because all of 45 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:28.199 the attention was on JJ Reddick, and even JJ Reddick has I think either 46 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:30.759 been misled that he really is going to be the guy for the Lakers or 47 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:36.479 he's like working with them to just totally throw people off to where they would 48 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:42.159 have never expected it to be. Danny Hurley, so big news, no 49 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.240 doubt. All right, it is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by 50 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:46.719 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us, 51 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.919 Nick Coffee. That's me the company man, mister John all alongside today. 52 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.199 You got six more hours here on the air, and then you're out 53 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.439 of here for vacation. That's true. You get excited. I am excited. 54 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.280 I think I haven't told you where I'm going for extravagant place, but 55 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.639 we're going to the mid Atlantic. We're going to coastal Delaware. Oh cool, 56 00:04:03.759 --> 00:04:09.120 Yeah, man, that's an area of the country I've never I've never 57 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.680 been in, and I can't you know, there's a lot of places that 58 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.279 I can't necessarily give a good pitch as to why I'd like to be there, 59 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:19.360 but just I like to experience different areas, different regions of the country 60 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.040 that you know that I've never been to before. Right, I don't know 61 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:25.759 what I'm getting into, rights, That's exactly what how I go about doing 62 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.879 this. I've said before that we like to we want to try to go 63 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.879 somewhere different on vacation each and every year, and this is where we're going 64 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.839 this time. Man. That's cool, good stuff there, because I there's 65 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:40.160 pockets of the country I've never been to that I really want to at least 66 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.360 just experience. It's not like I want to take a week and go visit 67 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.319 and you know, doing whole vacation. But I've never I've never been to 68 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:51.319 Texas other than other than in an airport, and I don't know. I 69 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.360 just feel like Texas is kind of its own country within this country. That 70 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.399 would make sense. And you know, Austin's probably the place I would go 71 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.240 if I just decided take a trip to Texas, because apparently that's a fun, 72 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.720 lively spot. You know. Dallas and Houston. I don't really have 73 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.519 any interest in going and hanging out there because those are huge cities and I, 74 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.639 you know, I don't really know what I would do there other than 75 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.879 just be in a big city. I've been to those airports, and then 76 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:17.680 I've been to the Northeast, but never that area there like Delaware, New 77 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.920 England, yeah, New Gyna, yeah. But the area of the country 78 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.160 that I don't know if I'll ever go, but I would love to, 79 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.399 and I've always wanted to go. There is the Pacific Northwest, Oregon, 80 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.519 Washington, even you know Canada if you go a little further north. But 81 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.240 you know, I don't have any reason to go there, and I know 82 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:36.720 for sure I'm not gonna be able to convince my wife to ever go there, 83 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.720 because that's the exact type opposite place that she would ever want to go, 84 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.639 and you know, adventure. She's not a big out west mountainous type 85 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.839 person. Rain and cold, that's what she thinks of the of the Pacific 86 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.800 Northwest. But I'm telling her if we go in like the summer, that's 87 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.759 not always the case. But yeah, I have a friend who lives in 88 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.160 Seattle, so maybe that would be my way of getting there. At some 89 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.959 point. Maybe he ends up, you know, staying there for good. 90 00:05:57.959 --> 00:05:59.639 He's been there a few years now. I'm not sure if he plans on 91 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.279 staying forever, but you know, if he ends up raising a family there, 92 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.680 maybe that's my Maybe that's my out to make a trip. And I 93 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.480 don't have to take her. I mean I would take her, but again 94 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:09.480 she doesn't. She don't want to just kind of pack up the car one 95 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:11.920 day and do what you said you've all know and say, hey, we're 96 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:14.199 going for two weeks. I'm telling you I'm gonna do it. I mean, 97 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:15.639 I won't even like ask her. I'm just gonna say, hey, 98 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:18.040 here's what I'm doing. You're welcome to come with me if you'd like. 99 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:24.480 And that's gonna be my my drive across the country by forty. If I 100 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:29.319 haven't done it, then you know, I'm I'm pathetic, and I just 101 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:30.879 yeah, hold me to it. I don't have that. I got five 102 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.439 years left, Yeah, I'll I'll be thirty six and uh, in fact, 103 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.879 a month, a month from tomorrow, So yeah, I got five 104 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.040 years to make it happen. I think I can. I think I can 105 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.079 pull it off. But we'll see. Only time will tell. All Right, 106 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.879 So let's get into this this uh, this big piece of news that 107 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.680 really doesn't relate to us. But when it comes to college basketball, there's 108 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.920 one man that has dominated this sport in the last couple of years, and 109 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:58.279 I don't believe there's any sign of him stopping, unless, of course, 110 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:02.040 he leaves college basketball to go to the and coach the Lakers. So at 111 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.480 times I felt, my, I you know, I'm sure this is probably 112 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:06.319 something you guys are going to say, well, hey, that's like every 113 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:12.720 day for you man. When talking about Yukon during their second consecutive championship run 114 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.560 after they cut down the nets this past season, I felt like I wasn't 115 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:21.920 really articulating and putting into words how I really felt about Dan Hurley because I 116 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:30.040 am so impressed with him. I think he is an absolutely phenomenal leader. 117 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.120 And I mean, at the end of the day, when it comes to 118 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:39.399 coaching, there's different styles, there's different approaches. You know, you want 119 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.680 to be yourself and everybody has their own personality, philosophy. You know, 120 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.240 you can be a variety of you know, there's layers to being a coach 121 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.000 and there's a lot of different ways to do it. And there's many successful 122 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:54.680 sometimes all time and great coaches that have clearly done it differently than most. 123 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.279 But at the end of the day, a coach is a leader and people 124 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.360 lead in different ways. To me, Dan Hearly is a phenomenal leader. 125 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.560 He's a phenomenal basketball mind, and I think what you see is what you 126 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.879 get, And it took a little while for it to really break through, 127 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.439 right. He was successful at Rhode Island for Rhode Island. But at Yukon, 128 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.920 you know, it took him a little bit of time. And if 129 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.720 this is a clip that I saw, I'm not gonna play for him. 130 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.439 I just gonna reference it. But there was a clip of Danny Hurley once 131 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.480 he got to Yukon, when they were slowly trying to, you know, 132 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.759 get back to where they once were, and you know, he made the 133 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:33.120 comment, and I'm paraphrasing here that you better get us now. And at 134 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.799 the time, if I was listening to that live, I would have thought, 135 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:37.840 Okay, yeah, that's what That's what a lot of coaches would say. 136 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.399 But he meant it and he followed through on that. Because now within 137 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.279 a few years at Yukon, he has implemented a system. I mean, 138 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:52.080 their program is on top of the sport and it's not dependent upon once in 139 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:58.799 a lifetime talent or even once in a four or five year time frame talent. 140 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:05.360 I don't think Yukon has many super talented dudes on these last two teams. 141 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.919 I don't, I really don't. I think some of the guys that 142 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.159 are going to get drafted are gonna get drafted where they are because this draft 143 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.399 is really weak. That's not a knock on them. You need talent and 144 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.279 he has that. But Danny Hurley once guys who are going to compete, 145 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.679 guys who are going to buy in, and of course guys who do have 146 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.720 talent, and then he develops. I mean there are guys who I think 147 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.679 via the portal with maybe a year or two left, they've they've developed under 148 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.159 him late in their career because that's what he really specializes in. So I 149 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.519 don't want him to leave Yukon. I don't. Some people say, well, 150 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.360 get him the hell out of here. He's going to dominate the sport, 151 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.039 and you know, I hear that. I wouldn't want to run into 152 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.039 Danny Hurley if i'm you know, Pat Kelcey in a couple of years, 153 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.120 because you know, even if you're rolling like Yukon, they're not slowing down 154 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:52.600 if he's still there. But I really really think he is the you know, 155 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:54.840 the future of coaching in basketball, and I assume that would be at 156 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:01.080 the college level, but at the pro level. I still think he could 157 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.480 be super successful. I do. We'll never know, And coaching Lebron is 158 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.879 kind of different than coaching anybody else, and really any other team that doesn't 159 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.799 have a Lebron because Lebron is kind of a guy who really does whatever he 160 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.080 wants. He's successfully gotten every coach he's played for fired seemingly, and the 161 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:22.799 one guy that he couldn't get fired that still is around in Miami is Spolster, 162 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.480 who I believe is one of the best coaches in the NBA. So 163 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.879 we'll see if he ends up even going to Yukon. Maybe he does decide 164 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.840 I'm sorry to the Lakers. Maybe he does decide to stay at Yukon. 165 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.279 But I mean, I wouldn't even say like I'm a big I mean, 166 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:41.200 I'm not not a fan, but I can't act as if like I root 167 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:43.960 for Hurley, Like I don't watch Yukon play and think like, Wow, 168 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.960 they're so good. I hope they keep it rolling. I just have a 169 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.519 lot of respect as a college basketball fan and a basketball dorc myself, because 170 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.600 I think he is I think he's brilliant, And maybe a part of it 171 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:00.320 for me personally is that I didn't see that beforehand. He's been around coached 172 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.200 the low major, if you can call it that, like the bottom of 173 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.720 D one he was at either was it Wagner, I think it was then 174 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.360 he ended up at Rhode Island, did fine there, but they weren't you 175 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.279 know, they weren't elite. And then at Yukon it was a slow build. 176 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:20.440 But I think what he did is he showed that he has the acumen 177 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:26.039 as far as basketball. He is a leader, and he can sell and 178 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:31.000 recruit and he can identify the type of players that he knows will fit with 179 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:35.039 what he wants to do. And Yukon's a program that does have great resources. 180 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.120 Maybe not to the likes of a Kentucky, Carolina, Kansas or something 181 00:11:37.159 --> 00:11:41.360 like that, but Yukon is in my opinion, certainly a blue blood now 182 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.799 with what they've done. So this is a really good coach that took a 183 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.639 good program, a really good program for that matter, with good resources, 184 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:50.840 and it took him a little time, but he has it rolling to a 185 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:58.879 point where if he stays at Yukon, it's unheard of and it's improbable, 186 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.600 extremely hard to do. But if he stayed at Yukon and they won two 187 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.960 more back to back, could you sit back and say that you're completely shocked. 188 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.639 I don't know if you could. I mean, unless they did it 189 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.759 in weird fashion where they were like a bubble team got in and then won 190 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.360 it. But I really liked Dan Hurley a lot as a coach, and 191 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.279 I think if he stays at Yukon or you go to the Lakers, I 192 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.360 think he's going to have success. So here's wojes this morning on a show 193 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.639 that I got to be honest with you, I always forget the name of 194 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:31.799 it. ESPN in the Morning has done a lot of different things since they 195 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.799 moved on from Mike and Mike, but woj was on this morning and it's 196 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.960 called what is it called Unsportsmanlike? Does that sound right? Don? I 197 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.759 was gonna say get Up or is that something else? So I think get 198 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.840 Up is what they moved on from. Like they got rid of get Up 199 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.519 and now have a different crew that is actually, I'll be honest with you, 200 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.519 actually think as far as the sports radio in general, I actually think 201 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:00.879 this is a good show. But it doesn't have the names right. It's 202 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.559 not it's not Greeny, it's not you know, it's not. Even Jay 203 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.399 Williams was on there quite a bit. I mean they Keishawn Johnson I think 204 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.240 did so they now have names that a lot of people probably aren't even familiar 205 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:16.519 with. Evan Cohen, Chris Canty, and there's another I guess contributor to 206 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.759 the show. So whenever I catch it on television, like if it's on 207 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:22.720 you know, in the morning's on ESPN, like I think, I think 208 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.399 they do a pretty good job. They're just not big. They're just not 209 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.720 big names like you used to see. But anyways, this was on on 210 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:33.000 sportsmanlike radio. This is Woj as he was, I guess breaking the news, 211 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.440 and I don't know if people care, so I won't spend a ton 212 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:41.240 of time on it, but later I may discuss the Shams Cherania Adrian wolj 213 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:48.240 Narowski dynamic here because he was a former protegee. I mean I think Woj 214 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:52.320 had Shams under his under his wing, and then Shams kind of branched off, 215 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.120 did his own thing and still does well for himself. But it's Shams 216 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.639 that has been running with it for a while now that it's JJ Reddick, 217 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.879 and it sounds like he was, you know, completely off. I mean, 218 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.440 you never know, but there are some that believe that even if they 219 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.240 don't get hurtly, they're not going to hire JJ Reddick, which would be 220 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.759 a tough l for Shams to take. And I would love to know did 221 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.639 JJ Reddick get misled or is he in on it just messing with people, 222 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.679 because I could see him just you know, being that guy to just kind 223 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.039 of make people think yeah, because he was on with uh, there was 224 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.919 a there's a a Draftking show, which by the way, is terrible. 225 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.480 It's Mike Golick and his son and it's just the coin. It's just soap. 226 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.399 I mean, I shouldn't say that because I'm sure people say the same 227 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.360 thing about my show, and I'm sure you know, those guys are doing 228 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.919 a lot better than I am in this business that is sports media. But 229 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:41.159 it's just so corny. But he was on with him yesterday. JJ Reddick 230 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:45.799 was and he was doing like the little smirk kind of like hint is if 231 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.840 like he was already the Lakers coach and he's just gonna wait until after the 232 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:52.559 finals whenever, you know, he does his one and only if he goes 233 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.600 to the Lakers, it'd be his one and only time being a part of 234 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.919 the broadcast team for the NBA Finals. But I don't get the sense that 235 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:03.919 he's going anywhere. I think he's gonna stay in. You know, we'll 236 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.879 never know, because why would he come out and say it. If he 237 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.080 was like if he was like you know, let on and he was just 238 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.440 he was used as like a smoke screen. But either way, I don't 239 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:16.320 think it's gonna be j Reddick. But here's Wojes this morning describing the situation 240 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:26.600 here and really laying out what LA finds interesting and intriguing about Dan Hurley because 241 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.799 I actually think, to be honest with you, the days of going and 242 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.639 getting a really successful college coach and thinking they're gonna do it in the NBA, 243 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.159 Like, it doesn't feel as if that's the trend the NBA would be 244 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.759 heading in right now. But when you're Dan Hurley and you've been that impressive, 245 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.080 and again you're doing it because you can coach ball, not because you're 246 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.360 out there putting together the best roster you can buy, I mean that's impressive. 247 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.080 So here again, this is WoDES this morning discussing and I guess this 248 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.519 is when he really broke the news. The Lakers over the next few days 249 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.519 are in a full court press to convince Dan Hurley to come to LA. 250 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.879 He has told them that he wants to hear them out and think the Lakers 251 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.159 Rob Polenka, they want to put a program in place. In LA. 252 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.679 They don't want to just have coach to coach. They want to put a 253 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:19.080 program in for the long term. They want Dan Hurley's player development program. 254 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:25.240 The NBA is changing. You can't in LA anymore just trade three or four 255 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.360 first round picks to bring in a star player and think you can have a 256 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:33.440 roster that can win. That is how they got Anthony Davis. But you 257 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.600 are seeing you have to draft well, you have to develop your young players. 258 00:16:37.279 --> 00:16:38.639 And in LA, I think the belief is always you're going to be 259 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:45.799 able to get the star player who finds his way to LA, but you're 260 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:51.080 gonna have to grow your young players. And the idea of Bronnie James and 261 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.200 the Lakers they have the fifty fifth pick. Who better potentially than Dan Hurley 262 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:03.519 to be the development coach to lead his growth than the coach who's you know, 263 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.599 really dominated the college sport. You talk about, you know, h 264 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:14.519 x'es and o acumen player development. You know, there's been more than one 265 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.839 NBA coach who has said to me in recent months talking about even as they're 266 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:23.319 watching tape on Yukon for Donovan Klingon or Stephan Kassel, or others. They 267 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:27.279 talk about the sophistication of Yukon's offense, and I've had more than one coach 268 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:33.720 say this would really translate to our league. And certainly Rob Polenka has recognized 269 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.319 that. And from day one of this Lakers search, guys, it has 270 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.920 been Dan Hurley. Now they've interviewed other candidates. They don't know whether they 271 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.559 can get Dan Hurley. So they have certainly interviewed other candidates, they have 272 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:48.480 talked to other others, but there has been one focus of this search, 273 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:56.079 and that's Yukon's coach, the Lake. So I mean, not knowing if 274 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.160 they can get him is I think a real question. But I do find 275 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:06.839 it funny that there are folks out there saying, well, I mean, 276 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:11.680 come on, he's not leaving Yukon. He turned down Kentucky, which, 277 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:18.720 by the way, did he ever like everybody's talking about Hurley to the NBA, 278 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:19.880 I mean, did he ever take Kentucky? Said they were going to 279 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.359 make him say no? Do they ever do it? They ever get the 280 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:27.599 official like message from a carrier that you told him, hey, here's your 281 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:32.400 official no like. It was very odd, but it's the freaking Lakers, 282 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:34.039 right, And I know, there's a lot of baggage with Lebron and all 283 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.240 that, and it could be a mess. But if you're wired as a 284 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:42.440 basketball guy, a competitor, and you've got a chance to go coach the 285 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:48.279 Los Angeles Lakers after you just won back to back national championships in college but 286 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.240 really nothing to prove at the college level, I mean, I guess it's 287 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.200 just denial of Yukon fans thinking that, like, no, he won't leave 288 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:00.680 us. I mean, he might not, but if he did, nobody 289 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.839 should be surprised. It is one of those things though, where if he 290 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.400 did deny the Lakers, it doesn't make you think that Dan Hurley probably I 291 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:11.480 mean, unless something crazy happens, will be with Yukon for the rest of 292 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:17.240 his career. Totally agree, Totally agree, And look, I understand the 293 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:21.920 obvious you know, cons if you're doing pros and cons to the situation. 294 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:26.599 If if you're looking at Dan Hurley, because coaching Lebron wouldn't be fun coaching 295 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.640 Lebron while his son is also on the team. Yikes. Hell, even 296 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.240 just knowing that if you go to the Lakers, Lebron is going to dictate 297 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:38.240 if they draft his side, like that's just that's that's an environment that a 298 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:41.640 lot of people would would be hesitant to go towards. But again, we're 299 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:47.519 talking about the Lakers, and we're talking about, you know, a chance 300 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:52.079 to to you know, probably make a lot of money, right. I 301 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.519 mean, clearly he's gonna get paid a lot. But what nobody seems to 302 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:59.720 think about And I times am as guilty as this of anybody. But when 303 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.880 you talk about okay, you know, there's this challenge, there's that challenge, 304 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:06.319 you know, would it be the right fit? Would I be really 305 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.839 cut out for LA media? Would I be really cut out to talk to 306 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:14.599 pros who make more money than me and be on them and really coach them 307 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.599 hard like I do College players like those are all legitimate things that any rational 308 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:25.720 person would think about. People in Dan Hurley's position aren't rational, normal average 309 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.039 joes that consider, you know what, I might get a pay bump, 310 00:20:27.079 --> 00:20:30.880 but man, I got a pretty cush job over here. These dudes are 311 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:34.400 in this spot winning back to back national championships because they are competitive as hell, 312 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:40.880 and there's no scenario They look at those challenges, those potential cons and 313 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:42.920 think, yeah, I can't overcome that. They think that they'll break. 314 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:45.960 It's not a worry to them, right, Like it's Charlie Strong. Charlie 315 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.319 Strong again nowhere near accomplished as a college football coach like Dan Hurley. But 316 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:53.319 when Charlie Strong was going to go to Texas and he did, myself and 317 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.000 a lot of others thought, man, that'd be a terrible fit. Man. 318 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:59.440 He would not do well there. That would not make sense. That 319 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.400 would be a mare scenario, especially if he doesn't win at a high level. 320 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:03.759 I think Charlie ever thought about that. No, this is a guy 321 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.599 who worked his ass off throughout his entire career, waiting forever to become a 322 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:11.720 head coach. Loueill gave him the opportunity and within four years Texas at that 323 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:12.920 time was viewed as one of the best jobs in the country. They wanted 324 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.000 him. So like, you know, you think, like, no, 325 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:21.160 I am. I have such a belief in myself, in my profession and 326 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:25.519 what I do that yes, despite those being some potential challenges, I'm going 327 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:30.519 to be able to thrive despite those challenges because that's how you're wired as a 328 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.359 competitor. So like, if he doesn't go to LA I don't think it's 329 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.119 going to be because he's worried that he wouldn't win. If Dan Hurley thought 330 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:40.680 he couldn't win as a coach at certain spots, I don't think he would 331 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.400 be as successful as he's been in recent years. Now, what I think 332 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:47.200 is kind of odd. We'll get to a breaking just a minute, But 333 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:52.640 what I think is kind of odd is that the way this has been put 334 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.880 out publicly. I kind of feel like this is one of those things that 335 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:59.960 typically, like if Dan Hurley, if you'd have told me a month ago 336 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.640 that Dan Hurley was going to be the coach of the Lakers, I would 337 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.880 have said that it didn't drag out during the NBA Finals. It was a 338 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.200 situation where you just found out they're hiring him and he's gone. Well now, 339 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.240 he met with his team earlier today, told them that he was you 340 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:21.039 know, told them that he was gonna keep be honest with them and be 341 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.599 transparent, didn't want to hide anything, told them he has been talking to 342 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:29.839 the Lakers and he just wanted them to know that. And then right now 343 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.640 it's still business as usual. So that to me is just awkward, Like 344 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.599 and I think the longer it's just kind of out there to where they're working 345 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.599 on a big offer. They're preparing a big offer, and everybody knows that 346 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.559 he might leave Yukon. I think that could make it to where maybe he 347 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:48.880 ends up like deciding to just stay, but the Lakers are going to have 348 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.000 to offer him a lot of money, like and I mean probably making Like 349 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.319 who's the highest paid NBA coach in the league. I wouldn't even be able 350 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.599 to guess because they're all so expendable now, right, Like, the longest 351 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.359 active coach in the NBA is Greg Popovich, I think right behind him, 352 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.599 actually not right behind him, but the second longest coach in the NBA active 353 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.279 as far as tenure is Eric Spolster at Miami. After that, I wouldn't 354 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.799 even be able to guess who has coached in the NBA at the same because 355 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.440 there's dudes who've been in the NBA for what twelve straight years? They coach 356 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:23.640 four teams because it's a retread league. Steve Kerr appears to be the highest 357 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:27.680 paid coach at thirty five million. Well not a year, right, I 358 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:32.279 mean, that's not possible. It makes that a year, But Popovich's sixteen 359 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:34.319 mil, Spolster's fifteen and again I don't know. This is by a year. 360 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.160 I'm trying to figure out what There's no way that a coach would make 361 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.559 that much in a year, but again I don't know. It is Golden 362 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.759 State though, yeah so Greg so, yeah per year. The highest paid 363 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:49.599 coach per year right now is Popovich sixteen million year, Spolster fifteen mil MANI 364 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:55.640 Williams thirteen mil who coaches the Pistons and they suck, and then Steve Kerr 365 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.839 is at nine point five million, So you know, they'd probably have to 366 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.039 put a salary in that price range. And will they do it? Probably 367 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.720 because of the Lakers they can, and for those worried about like Lebron, 368 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.359 like Lebron. And this is where the Internet is very useful in these kind 369 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.200 of situations because there's a lot of Internet sluice out there that probably didn't even 370 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:19.480 have to look that hard to find some clips of Dan Hurley interviews where he's 371 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:22.559 hinting that he really loves the NBA. No nobody paid attention, nobody really 372 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:26.720 thought much of it, but he said in interviews that he wants to be 373 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.440 in the NBA someday. And this is before he won back to back titles. 374 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.160 I believe, and also Lebron. Lebron's been flirting with Hurley on social 375 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.240 media. Never saw that coming, Like, I wouldn't be shocked if, 376 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:40.000 like, as soon as they fired Darvin Ham. That was his name, 377 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:44.160 right, Darvin Ham, they ended up like Lebron told him go get Hurley 378 00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.160 and they've been working on it like that wouldn't shock me at all. All 379 00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:48.039 right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. We were 380 00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:52.240 loaded today, a lot of stuff to get into, so stick with us. 381 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.519 Do you remember the task I gave you for today's show, John, 382 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.480 If you don't think about it during the break, okay, you'll remember, 383 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:03.079 all right, keep it locked right here at Sports Talks ninety. You know, 384 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:08.839 for those who are thinking that maybe Hurley's doing this to like leverage something, 385 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.839 what would he be leveraging like he's already told Kentucky. No, In 386 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.200 fact, I'm not even really sure if he told him though he just never 387 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:19.680 really you know, returned their call or whatnot. And in all seriousness, 388 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.640 Kentucky's job is I think, and it pains me to say it, but 389 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.480 I think you could make the case that Kentucky's the best job in college basketball. 390 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.039 There's not a big difference between Carolina, Kentucky, and Kansas in my 391 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:34.359 opinion as far as the top jobs. So, I mean, he's not 392 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:38.319 he's not gonna float the Lakers out there to get more money from Yukon. 393 00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:41.720 I mean, and if he does, I mean, and it works, 394 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.599 than good on him. But Yukon doesn't have the money to pay him what 395 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.920 colleges would pay him unless they got real you know, unless they just you 396 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.079 know, got real desperate, which they probably would, because that's how I 397 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:53.599 mean, we're talking about a guy who's went back to back national championships. 398 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.079 In fact, I know this isn't realistic and it was probably a bad joke, 399 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.720 But like I think Yukon on the state of Connecticut, on behalf of 400 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:07.119 Yukon Basketball, would like implement attacks for everybody in the state to go towards 401 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.039 making sure they can afford to keep Dan Hurley. That's how much they love 402 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.000 him. So I think he's going to the Lakers. I just think it's 403 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:18.039 now it's now just down to what offer they give him. Like, I 404 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.240 can't imagine they're going to throw something at him that is not substantially attractive, 405 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.480 especially compared to what he's making at Yukon. The amount of dominoes that will 406 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.279 fall if he jumps to the Lakers over these next couple of months will be 407 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:36.200 absolutely insane. I've got a prediction. I think that if he goes to 408 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:41.000 the Lakers, there's no in between one or two things happens utter chaos, 409 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:48.160 meaning all those dudes from Yukon become available in the portal and everybody's scrambling to 410 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:53.640 go get some of them. You'll see dudes who are committed to I don't 411 00:26:53.640 --> 00:27:00.359 know, let's just say there's a guy committed to Creighton or or I don't 412 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.200 know, give me, give me a run of the mill, top fifteen 413 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.359 team, John just you know, let's go with Houston. Maybe, yeah, 414 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.240 Houston. Let's just say Houston. You know, there's a guy that 415 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.640 is in a good spot at Houston who joined their program this offseason from the 416 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:22.960 portal, and now he's aware that Calvin Sampson's going after one of these Yukon 417 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.119 players. Well then he leaves, you know, he you know, he 418 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.920 ends up bailing and at that point, you know, somebody else could go 419 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.039 get this guy who was going to commit to Houston, but now he's available 420 00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.079 again, and he wouldn't have to re enter the portal. It all comes 421 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.119 down to have you enrolled in school. Yet, that's what it all comes 422 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.880 down to, because they're like Louisville right now, they have I believe eleven 423 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.000 or maybe ten of the thirteen scholarship players they've added. They're all here and 424 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.880 in school, meaning that if they were going to leave, they would have 425 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.079 to enter the transfer portal. Now, if you've committed somewhere and you haven't 426 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.119 signed anything, and you have not enrolled in school and they've not officially announced 427 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.000 you, it's just your word, like you're not having you're you're still in 428 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.839 the portal. You just haven't you know, you haven't at you know, 429 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:12.039 in fact, there's nothing that ties you to that place unless you've you know, 430 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.960 unless you've actually signed something or enrolled in school. Because when you enroll 431 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.119 in school, that's when you actually have to go through the process of entering 432 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.200 the portal. And what's crazy is that if you've already taken money, you 433 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.920 know, through an il, but you haven't enrolled in school, you could 434 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:30.319 bail and not owe anybody any money. Because that's just the way it's structured 435 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.839 right now, which again is not really structured. It's a complete free for 436 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:37.079 all. So I think it's either going to be that chaos a lot of 437 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.720 moving pieces. This late. I say this late, I guess it's you 438 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.279 know, still relatively early into the off season, but usually by June more 439 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.200 often than not annually, when you get to June sixth, there's very little 440 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.480 movement that could really like usually by now you feel like you know who is 441 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.480 on everybody's team and what it's gonna you know, and what the roster's gonna 442 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.319 look like. So it's either going to be that or they hire Luke Murray 443 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.440 and promote him from within, and there's not much shake up at all. 444 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.720 There's no big coach leaving another job, because that's another that's another part of 445 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.359 the chaos. Right. And by the way, have you heard the name 446 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:15.839 being floated out there to replace Danny Hurley by Jeff Goodman. You're not fishing 447 00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.759 for a Tom Crean, are you. No, Hell, I don't. 448 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:25.799 I don't understand this, not only because I don't really to me off the 449 00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.559 top, it doesn't seem like a great fit, but also Jeff Goodman, 450 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.920 who again, like I think, is as connected as anybody in college basketball, 451 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.519 but we also kind of know who Jeff Goodman's guys are right, like 452 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.559 we know which coaches that he like. He loves Bill self, he loves 453 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:42.440 Pat Kelsey. Now Pat Kelsey's not in the upper rechelan of coaches right now 454 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.599 as far as like name brands, but you know, he has coaches that 455 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.640 he's you know, always been pretty high on, and we all know coaches 456 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.440 that he doesn't really like very much, including you know, Mike Woodson, 457 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:57.880 Woodson, Patino cal Perry. Like you know. So, Jeff's really really 458 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.599 connected and has done a great job covering this sport, probably as good as 459 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:07.519 anybody. But I would have never expected him to be openly campaigning to where 460 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.599 he's doing it because he's paid to do it, or he's doing it because 461 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:15.720 somebody told him to, or he just was a low key Bruce Pearl fan 462 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:21.279 that I did not realize. I've never heard. I've never heard Jeff advocate 463 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:26.000 Bruce Pearl to get hired by anybody in fact, in fact, I feel 464 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.039 like he's mocked Auburn for paying him what they've paid him. And he's the 465 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.400 one who I believe and I could be wrong on this, but Bruce Pearl, 466 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:34.480 I don't think he was ever going to leave Auburn this offseason, but 467 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.480 he kind of was maybe wanting them to think there was a chance he could 468 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.279 do that because what Bruce Pearl wanted Auburn to do. And they've already done 469 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.559 a lot for him. They've given him more money. He got a big 470 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.960 raise whenever Chris Mack walked away because he was able to convince them that Louisville 471 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.599 was going to go after him. And he also got new facilities. I 472 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.319 don't know if they're complete or if they're still in the process of being put 473 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.599 together, but Auburn's given him a lot, only for him to lose to 474 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.440 Yale this year in the first round. But he also wanted them to make 475 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.039 his son the coach in waiting, which they weren't gonna do, and they 476 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:11.000 haven't done it yet. So I am very shocked to see that Jeff Goodman 477 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.519 is campaigning pretty aggressively for Bruce Pearl to take over for Danny Hurley if in 478 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.960 fact he does go to the Lakers. I mean, I think Bruce Pearl's 479 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.440 a really good coach. I could see him having success anywhere. But to 480 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.440 me, that just is random, like I would have like. To me, 481 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:27.720 that just doesn't seem like a fit, you know what I mean? 482 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.519 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Bruce Pearl is the kind of 483 00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.000 guy you really can't see coaching outside of the SEC for some reason or maybe 484 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.279 the Big twelve. No, I think you're right. I think SEC. 485 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.680 You know, even though like his brand like is not. I mean, 486 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.079 you just know if you know about his background and sort of his his you 487 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.400 know him as a person like, it just doesn't to me. He doesn't 488 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.599 scream SEC. But he's been in Tennessee and he's been at Auburn. Those 489 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.039 are the two coaches, the two places we know that he's coached, and 490 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.039 he really seems to despite being I think an outsider of the Southeastern region, 491 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.400 he seems to really embrace everything that comes with the SEC. So yeah, 492 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.799 this is from Jeff Goodman earlier this afternoon. If Dan Hurley leaves you ucon 493 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.680 for the Lakers, the guy I would target his auburns. Bruce Pearl grew 494 00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.759 up in New England and has the personality to follow. Dan Hurley can coach 495 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.359 and recruit and his buy out as reasonable. So since when this is buyout 496 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:22.359 reasonable? Dan like Bruce Pearl. I mean, last I checked his buyout 497 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.119 was why he never got mentioned for any job that opened up, including Kentucky 498 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:29.119 and Louisville. He clearly is good enough to coach both programs. He's more 499 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.200 accomplished than both of the coaches that the schools around here high. That's not 500 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:36.160 an insult to them, that's just a fact. And I think it makes 501 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:40.119 sense as to why both athletic directors wanted to go in a direction similar to 502 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.519 what you got in Dan Hurley. Now no clue, nobody has a clue, 503 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.079 and it's a stretch to even expect either of these guys, Kelsey and 504 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:51.240 Pope to do anything like Dan Hurley just did. But that is the path, 505 00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:53.640 right. You were at a low major, end up at kind of 506 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.279 a mid major Rhode Island, and then UKN takes a chance on you and 507 00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.759 then you break through. I mean, you could make the case that like 508 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.039 Kelsey was at Winthrop, one there goes to Charleston higher mid major, when's 509 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.359 there now is at louis Let's se if you can make it happen. Mark 510 00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.400 Pope Utah Valley State never even heard of him, but he made him relatively 511 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.759 good for who they were gets the job at BYU. They were kind of 512 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.119 a mid major and then they ended up in the Big twelve for a year 513 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.279 and they were successful enough. And now he's at Kentucky. So you know, 514 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:24.440 I just I know nobody cares, but knowing Jeff a little bit like 515 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:28.440 I do, this is just weird to me because I don't, you know, 516 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.880 I don't know why he would be out there openly campaigning for Bruce Pearl 517 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.440 as if like he's a Yukon fan or he's a Bruce Pearl fan. And 518 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.640 look, Bruce Pearl would take the job, there's no doubt about it. 519 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:44.279 But yeah, for those just now joining us, that is the big news 520 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.160 today. The Lakers, I guess, have been since day one when their 521 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.519 job opened up. They've been pursuing Dan Hurley and Wojes broke the news earlier 522 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:57.440 today, and now I guess we wait to see what offer they throw at 523 00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.839 him and if he decides to take it, and I believe that he will. 524 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.440 I mean, you think he'll stay at Yukon. I mean I feel 525 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.920 because if he what do you need to know if you're not gonna you know 526 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.000 the circumstance, especially if they've been talking to him since day one, he 527 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.559 knows what they're going to offer him, like he knows what they want to 528 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:17.840 do as far as letting him develop players, And I'm sure they've discussed obvious 529 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.480 questions that like people like me would have just as you know, a curious 530 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.840 basketball fan. Are they telling him they're going to have to draft lebronni right. 531 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.760 I feel like that's the biggest tipping point for whether or not Dan Hurley 532 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.519 takes the Lakers job. If he's if he's okay with working with Lebron and 533 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.599 really just welcomes it, I think. But if he wasn't, we'd already 534 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.000 know, and he wouldn't be they would this wouldn't be public. Yeah, 535 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:44.039 that's probably so far past that that clearly he's not worried about that. I 536 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.280 mean, he probably is, but not to the point where he'd say no, 537 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:51.519 because if if it was a contingency upon anything with Lebron or his son, 538 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.480 it wouldn't be broken by WOJ At this point, it would Danny Hurley 539 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.400 probably would have already told him not interested, because I don't want to get 540 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.000 in that mess, which if he did say that, like I would understand 541 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:06.880 because it does Lebron's one of the best players of all time. But what 542 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.679 coach attached to him? Do people feel good about right, Like at times 543 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.360 you feel like he's won in spite of his coach. Spolstra did a good 544 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.599 job, and but Lebron wanted him gone and pat Riley said no, pat 545 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.599 really stood up to Lebron like most won't. So like pat rally would not 546 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.400 draft Bronnie James if Lebron is still in Miami because he's he's not an idiot 547 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.800 because they can win without him, right, And you know he stood up 548 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.440 to him. But I think with like, here's this goes back to what 549 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.679 I was talking aout a little bit earlier, John, where guys that are 550 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:43.519 wired that way as competitors. I think Dan Hurley probably has such a belief 551 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.559 in himself and it's justifiable given what he's accomplished, that he'll be the guy 552 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:52.760 that really wins and thrives with Lebron, because look, Lebron wins, He's 553 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.320 won titles, but like he'll be the guy they're like, wow, look 554 00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.719 at this duo Hurley. It's it's like Phil Jackson and George. Like I 555 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.400 don't know if he's I don't know if he's thinking that, but like I 556 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.519 don't think he's scared about Lebron. I'll say this, and this is probably 557 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.199 kind of a weird take because I feel like if you're a team of a 558 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.719 power program like a Louisville or Kentucky or an Indiana, it benefits you if 559 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.159 Dan Hurley isn't in the college game. But I also don't really want to 560 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.840 see Dan Hurley leave the college. I don't either. I'm with you, 561 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.440 which is which is it's a weird kind of tearing. I guess, yeah, 562 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.800 two sides. I mean, Yukon being good, it's not one of 563 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.400 those programs where you feel like, well, you know what college basketball is 564 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.920 better when Yukon's good. Like, actually, I think that's a lie about 565 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.719 a lot of programs. But you know, I think the way they were 566 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:52.079 able to quickly rebuild back to championship caliber, you know, success, it 567 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.679 still happened. Like so if he leaves, it's still there's still proof out 568 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.079 there that you can, you know, hire the right guy with a program 569 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.000 that has all the resources you'd need and you know, essentially do the damn 570 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.079 thing win two championships back to back. But I don't know, I just 571 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.480 feel like that's a good storyline within college. I don't. I don't think 572 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.400 it was ever going to turn into where the sport is boring because Yukon's so 573 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:14.960 good. Now if they win four or five in a row, different conversation. 574 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.000 But I actually think it's good to have a goliath, and they became 575 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.760 the goliath. And if you remember in previous years, nobody really there wasn't 576 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.360 one. I mean, I mean, yeah, you had Villanova win two 577 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.559 out of three, right, But like you know, I think college basketball 578 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:38.599 tends to get more national attention in coverage when there is a team that is 579 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.920 viewed to do something that rarely ever happens, and that's what Yukon did. 580 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.400 They won back to back championships and that hadn't happened in a long time, 581 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.599 and there'd be a lot of more. And again maybe some people don't care, 582 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.760 and I don't know why I care. I just love college basketball so 583 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.119 much. If it's getting a lot of attention nationally, you know, that 584 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:59.960 makes me happy. And if well, if they're back next year with her, 585 00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.199 like it'll be something that nationally it is checked in on. Not that 586 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.480 they're going to go undefeated, but like, can they do the unthinkable? 587 00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.199 Can Yukon win three in a row, and you know, I think that's 588 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.639 good for college basketball. It's not good for you know, us if our 589 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.679 teams make a run and have to run into him. Right, But I 590 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.519 think he's going to go to the Lakers. You think you think that's what 591 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.320 happens. I think so you've convinced me. Yeah, I mean, I 592 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.880 just feel like to be at this point, it's weird for me to think 593 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.599 that he'd just say no at this I think if he was gonna say no, 594 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.039 he would have already told him no. But then again, I said 595 00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.880 this earlier. The longer it's out there, you know, because I don't 596 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.000 I would imagine nobody at Yukon knew this was happening, But now they do. 597 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:35.679 Maybe they've got a chance to not, you know, pay him more 598 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.239 money than the Lakers, but make him feel bad about leaving. I don't 599 00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.280 know. All right, we'll come back on the other side again. I 600 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:46.039 gave John a task yesterday because he's been just on fire with randomly just guessing 601 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.440 things when I put him on the spot, things that like nobody would be 602 00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.639 able to just guess, and he did. So now we're gonna have him 603 00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:58.320 guess the total score tonight between the Mavericks and the Celtics in Game one of 604 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.960 the Finals, and we're gonna bet on it. That's right, Coffee and 605 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:07.199 Company rolling along here on a Thursday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us. 606 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.119 Certainly appreciate it. All right, So tonight we've got Game one of 607 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.440 the NBA Finals, and I will tell you it's gonna take probably a wager, 608 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.119 or in fact, the type of wager I'm gonna make tonight really won't 609 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:22.239 it does. It won't matter who wins or loses. But I think I'm 610 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.760 gonna need to watch it and let emotions take over for me to figure out 611 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.440 who I want to win, because I don't like either of these teams. 612 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.079 I don't like the Celtics at all. And it's not because you know, 613 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.880 they beat the Pacers. It's just I've never been I don't know what it 614 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.199 is. I just don't like the Celtics. I respect their brand and of 615 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.400 course their history, but I just I'm not a Celtics guy. In the 616 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:50.199 MAVs, I don't really care. I don't have much of a strong feeling 617 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.599 one way or the other. But I'm kind of starting to not like be 618 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.679 a big fan of Luca. I think he's great. I think he's super 619 00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.559 talented, but I don't know. I'm getting to the point where I kind 620 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:06.199 of, in turn, maybe it's just me getting older, being more conservative 621 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.599 and you know, boring, but like really really cocky dudes just kind of 622 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:15.639 you know, I found myself rooting against them, and I think that's kind 623 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.760 of what Luke has turned into. But then again, like his arrogance, 624 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:22.000 I think is justified because he's super, super talented. I don't like Kyrie, 625 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.400 never have and I do find it funny how with Kyrie Irving, there's 626 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.239 some that look at this as like some redemption story, so good for him, 627 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.639 as if he's been through a lot of adversity. Any adversity, if 628 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:37.760 you want to call it that, for Kyrie Irving was his own doing. 629 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:43.360 I mean, there was a tweet that I retweeted that ended up it was 630 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.119 from a smaller account, but it ended up getting five point six million impressions, 631 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:53.280 and it's because it's so true. There was an NBA central account that 632 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.119 is super popular that posted a picture of Kyrie celebrating after they won the West 633 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.800 and says, happy for this guy if, like, you know, he 634 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.639 really deserves this and this this response was so fitting and perfect. Whole world 635 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.079 treating Kyrie like he beat cancer. This playoff run has been hilarious. He 636 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.400 was just an a hole for five years, and that's just flat out what 637 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.880 it was. He was an a hole. He was a jerk. He 638 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.599 I think at times didn't even really believe a lot of what he was running 639 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.679 with. But he liked the attention that he got from it. He was 640 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:29.559 so obsessed with wanting people to think, well, he's so much more than 641 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.760 just a basketball or which he is. Means a human being. And I'm 642 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:37.039 sure he's a bright guy. But like the way he carried himself in Boston, 643 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.679 the way he carried himself in Brooklyn was such a like, I'm so 644 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.239 intellectually on a different level than you guys, you just wouldn't understand. Like 645 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.719 he was just a I couldn't stand him. He's a super talented player, 646 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.719 but like, I don't like Kyrie. So I find myself thinking, well, 647 00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.239 maybe I'll end up pulling for the Celtics, but I don't know. 648 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.480 I really don't know which team I'm going to root for, but I'm going 649 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.679 to bet and that'll give me some interest at least in watching. But you 650 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.960 have it. Do you have a preference here on either of these teams? 651 00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:07.519 Not really. I mean, obviously the Mark Cuban connection with Indiana with there 652 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.920 you go works. But that works. That's at least something interest. That's 653 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.760 at least something, right, Yeah, all right, So give me the 654 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.239 total score of both teams, just you know, throw a number one eighteen 655 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.440 to eighteen. All right, So he's going don't know the spring or I 656 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.079 don't know any of the betting odds whatever, the over unders, so I'm 657 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.920 curious where we're gonna find. So we're we're taking the over tonight because the 658 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:32.679 total has set it two sixteen and a half. Oh my gosh. So 659 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:37.119 we're going to eighteen and uh, we'll hope for points. Regardless of who 660 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.760 wins. We're going to root for points and let's hope it happens. I'm 661 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:43.199 not making John wager on this, but I'm gonna do it because you know, 662 00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.280 at least, even if I lose, who cares, it's not gonna 663 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:46.719 be much money and at least gives me something to root for tonight, which 664 00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.960 again is points. Another bet I'm probably gonna take. I'm not gonna parlay 665 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:52.039 them, but these will be two different side bets. I'm gonna take the 666 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:58.360 over in PJ Washington points over eleven and a half. He's over in eight 667 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.760 straight games against the Celtic and his ten and oher on the over in his 668 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.000 career when he plays twenty eight plus minutes. He's been getting more and more 669 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.559 minutes because he's actually played really well in the playoffs. So I don't know, 670 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:13.400 this has become sort of like a very popular pick. Like it's not 671 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.880 like I just thought of it. I've been following others that are doing a 672 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:17.840 lot of props in the playoffs and having success, and it's one of those 673 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.960 where a lot of folks are saying, wow, it's only at eleven and 674 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:22.800 a half. In fact, I think it actually started at nine and a 675 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:28.039 half. But it could turn into where it's one of two things. Everybody's 676 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.679 gonna get rich on it or not rich but you know win and think like 677 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:34.599 wow, what a gift from the books, or it'll be one of those 678 00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.000 where you think like, yeah, they clearly knew we were all going to 679 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.440 be suckers and take it, but they knew something we didn't. Yeah, 680 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.119 over tonight over one sixteen and a half in the total, and then I'm 681 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:45.920 going to take the over eleven and a half points for PJ. Washington. 682 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:50.880 All right, two more hours to go. We got to talk about Coleman 683 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.840 Hawkins because I mean, I'm still of the belief that Louisvill's in good shape 684 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.000 and can make it happen. But I think both him and Pat Kelcey are 685 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.800 toying with us a little bit. Which, hey, if they're just having 686 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:06.639 fun and it all works out, that's fine. But pack Kelsey said something 687 00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.360 in its conversation today with Kent Spencer of WHS eleven that you know, has 688 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.039 me not worried, but just sort of curious. Okay, is this all 689 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.719 real? Like is he really visiting? Is this really happening or is it 690 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.719 just you know, a hoax. I'd stick with us right here on Sports 691 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.840 Talk seven ninety