1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,480 We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinski, 2 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:23,120 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,839 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on Twitter at fdr LST. 4 00:00:27,039 --> 00:00:30,160 Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and of course to 5 00:00:30,199 --> 00:00:34,880 the premium version of our website as well. Happy to be joined today by 6 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,719 the one and only Christopher Bedford, Executive editor over at the Common Sense Society. 7 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,240 Chris, I want to start by asking you about your Thanksgiving, as 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,840 you are the consummate chef. How to go? It was awesome? Yeah, 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,359 maybe the best turkey I've yet cooked. Why do you think that was? 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,920 I got it in a great Brian. My wife made me consider what 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,560 I was doing, stop and think about it for a second, which I'm 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,359 not used to things giving as a married couple. Yeah, first things giving 13 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:06,200 is a married couple. And she said, hey, why don't you try 14 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:11,319 to blend the spices I'm going to be using in the gravy with the spices 15 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,599 using on the brine and the rub and wow, whoa, whoa. I 16 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:21,879 just usually do my thing and it was great. And also I was reading, 17 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,840 uh, food blogs, and they suggested that drop the turkey in at 18 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:33,599 a lower temperature than usual. Two. You know you want to cook fry 19 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:37,200 at high temperature, but drop it in at around two fifty and you won't. 20 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,359 It won't blacken the way that fried turkeys often do, because usually a 21 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,439 fried turkeys is not as pretty as a big turkey. And it made a 22 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:48,599 big difference. It made it much prettier. And I also put the rosemary 23 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,519 and thyme and salt and brown sugar and hot sauce rub in the butter and 24 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,439 mixture that I injected after you just give away your briner recipe. That's not 25 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,840 a secret. I steal it with my other people. I'm not a scientist. 26 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,280 I don't know what brining is. I just know what's delicious. Chris 27 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,439 Bedford not a scientist. I'm a tech executive, but not a scientist. 28 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:14,159 Yes, and Sarah's monk was over for this one, so I got to 29 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:17,039 get the definitive this is the best turk you've ever had. Pushed back against 30 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:23,120 Sarah's idea that she knows this secret way that's different and better that I'll never 31 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:28,199 let her try. Actually I can see it that I will someday one Thanksgiving. 32 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,599 Let her cook the turkey, but she's in charge of all the sides, 33 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,719 all the decoration. Did a wonderful job. Table Scape never heard of 34 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,960 a tablescape phenomenal. You've never heard of a tablescape. I'm telling you, 35 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,360 you guys have to watch Below Deck. You would love Below Deck. It's 36 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,800 a little bit, a little bit for women for the men. Yes, 37 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,360 it's un Bravo and I don't think I've revealed on this podcast that I've spent 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,680 There are like fourteen seasons from all of the different franchises, and it's really 39 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,800 the one rabbit It's the one Bravo rabbit hole I never went down, but 40 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,919 it's about the crew of Magga Yachts. And I went around last January. 41 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:07,360 I had finished The Americans and desperately needed to stay in the binge ritual because 42 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,159 it had become such a soothing part of my night. And we went with 43 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:15,800 Below Deck. I was so skeptical because I love all of the other Bravo 44 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:17,439 fair too much. I'm very loyal. You didn't want to get hurt. 45 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,199 Didn't want to get hurt, and man, I am I have the hours. 46 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,439 I don't know that I could count I've actually tried to add up how 47 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:29,199 many hours in the last year I've spent watching Below Deck. It's incredible. 48 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:34,360 I've seen every single episode. But it's the person, dear listener that Emily 49 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,360 spends a lot of time watching television. It doesn't I hope it doesn't. 50 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,280 You know, I'm not a big wine person, but I will say it 51 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:43,759 has a little for men and a little for women. It's the perfect couple 52 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,319 show because the men get to watch the like actually kind of fascinating machinations of 53 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,879 running a mega yacht, so that side of the brain is absolutely satisfied. 54 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:59,960 The women you get to deal with the emotional aspects of the crew trying to 55 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,159 get along. So it's the perfect again, perfect couple show. I don't 56 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:05,240 watch TV unless i'm forced too, but table scaping is a big part of 57 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:13,360 it. She's got the middle runners down and matching tablecloths and napkins and Thanksgiving 58 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,600 h cloth rings and my only request to her, and all of this was 59 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:23,759 by American. I don't need a table runner from China that says, thankful 60 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:26,360 all of the table runners. Well, it turns out there's this old woman 61 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:30,120 in DC who makes them oh wow, like knits them and stitches out and 62 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,720 they're it's I think a side gig out on top of our social security And 63 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,639 it's like one hundred dollars or choice as much as a Chinese one. But 64 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,480 it's a handmade one by an American in DC that doesn't feel weird, and 65 00:04:40,519 --> 00:04:44,480 it says thankful ten times. A cigarette on it's like not going to catch 66 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,959 on fire, like it's you know, it's those weird plastic cigarette on it. 67 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:50,839 You don't smoke it Thanksgiving? No, but I have to say, 68 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:57,959 you're you're product built America. You were a great wife. Thanks good. 69 00:04:57,959 --> 00:04:59,839 How was yours? It was good? I think. Also one of the 70 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,560 best turkeys. My dad does the turkey. It was fantastic. My mom 71 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,079 does the sides, great sides. I made sweet potatoes, which I usually 72 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:09,680 do. Nobody else likes them except for Yeah, I'm a big sweet potato 73 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,040 person. But anyway, when did you start drinking on Thanksgiving? Yeah? 74 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Later? Later? Yeah. I went out with a friend of the night 75 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:23,000 before to a lovely establishment in Nashota, Wisconsin. That sounds fun. See. 76 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:26,959 I texted two friends at like ten thirty eleven thirty in the morning and 77 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,639 said, if it's socially acceptable to have a bloody Mary right now, why 78 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:33,240 not a cape cotter And one of them responded already down one, Oh, 79 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,000 of course. So I decided, you know what if Josh is drinking, 80 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:42,040 and I'll start drinking. And I actually I just kind of steadily drank throughout 81 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,439 the day and didn't binge or anything. But the next day I did feel 82 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,879 like, over the course of fifteen hours, I smoked two cigars and drank 83 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,639 a leader of vodka, and I think that was true. So, speaking 84 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,000 of people who are absolutely obstinate, you wanted to talk about American hero Tommy 85 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,360 Tuberville today will not bow down in the face of pressure, which is amazing 86 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:06,240 for an Alabama Republican center. I know we've talked about Taberville's stand, which 87 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,839 is actually coming in on a year. He started this first in March, 88 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:15,439 where he was blocking military appointments, essentially much to the horror of the pen 89 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,759 Gun. Yes, because the Pentagon, after the Dobbs decision came down, 90 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:27,600 said we are going to pay for the travel of our employees Defense Department employees 91 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,040 or is it just is a military overall, Yeah, military overall to travel. 92 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,439 We'll pay the travel expenses for them to go get abortion. I'll pay 93 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:39,439 for tickets, hotels, car rentals, and they'll put I think, I 94 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:46,639 think illegally taxpair of dollars to fund the obtaining abortion. And Tommy Taperville said, 95 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,199 if you don't revoke this, I'm going to block every appointment. It's 96 00:06:50,199 --> 00:06:54,120 a facilitation of abortion, is what the Catholic Church would call it on its 97 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:59,759 list of sins. So it's shocking again. Tommy Tuberville's fairly new here and 98 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,240 thought he was just going to be a celebrity Republican. I thought he was 99 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:05,920 un should not expect him to be the hardest man Washan. I totally expected 100 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,040 of Luther Strange type, business friendly. Yeah, big Luther Trump, but 101 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:15,920 he's an Alabama Republican. There's a you know, Katie Britt, for example, 102 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:19,480 not exactly a staunch or I don't expect think so she worked for Richard 103 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:25,279 Shelby in California and Massachusetts and another safe blue states to send us the craziest 104 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:30,920 psychopaths you had, like the bluest lunatics you've ever met, and safe Republicans 105 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,399 sends you oftentimes like a guy who probably would have registered as a Democrat if 106 00:07:33,399 --> 00:07:36,480 he lived in a blue state, but wanted to win in politics or became 107 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,639 a Republican. That does not Tommy Tubberville, not in all the phase of 108 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,680 all of the criticism that he's gotten from Republicans. Mister McConnell is furious about 109 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,040 this. It has spilled into public a couple of times, many times actually 110 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,959 by now it immediately spilled into public, by the way, which is such 111 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,560 a perfect distillation of the dynamics in the Republican Party, which is to say, 112 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,959 this is the fault of the Pentagon, and you were taking your anger 113 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,399 out on tom Tommy Tuberville, who is standing with your base, your voters, 114 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,639 and with the morally correct side of this radical He just said, don't 115 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,759 change this. The Department of Fence does not should not be providing abortions. 116 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,680 They can change it at any time. They could. They can walk back 117 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,360 this policy at any time. If they think that the military is actually under 118 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:26,279 threaten, then they would seede through civilian control on this issue and a lot 119 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:28,920 of these, and he would allow those promotions to go through. So what's 120 00:08:28,959 --> 00:08:33,440 the new update here? He's been stabbing in the back four ways, two 121 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,879 from the front and two from the back. He too, Mitch over the 122 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,200 last couple of weeks he's come under just blistering, constant attack from very unimpressive 123 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,480 colleagues like Joni Ernst and Okay, well, we disagree with Joaniornes. Actually 124 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:54,440 shouldn't be attacking extremely unimpressive person. And Lindsay Graham from South Carolina, who 125 00:08:54,519 --> 00:08:58,399 just loves the ball on uniform, has been pretty hard on him. They've 126 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:03,159 the Republicans attacking him as opposed to the administration, as opposed to the Pentagon, 127 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,399 over and over on this. And then you have the National Defense Authorization 128 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Act Authorization Act that comes up, and according to folks I've talked to, 129 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,960 Pweville had the votes in the Senate, Republican votes to strip the funding for 130 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:24,720 this. Out of that, the House of Representatives, the slim Republican majority, 131 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,519 passed an NBA which which had that provision in it that no more funds 132 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,919 could be allowed for this. The Senate ignored that, and at that point 133 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,600 they go to conference where they decide to try to tweak out the differences between 134 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,000 the House bill and the Senate bill, and then they pass it and send 135 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,919 it to the President. Schumer said, I don't want to have a vote 136 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,080 on this NDA. We're just going to have a conference. There's going to 137 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,759 be no voting. I know that we're senators in congressman, we don't actually 138 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,679 vote here in DC. McConnell agreed, much to my disappoint it seems that 139 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:05,679 Johnson agreed. New Speaker of the House, supposedly our social conservative, someone 140 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,200 who I kind of thought would be able to would be the kind of guy 141 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,919 most likely to back up Reville if any Speaker of the House in recent history 142 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,240 actually worked for Alliance defending Freedom. Yeah, absolutely great, religiously sometime in 143 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,759 the trenches and is completely a well in this fight. I'm really starting to 144 00:10:20,759 --> 00:10:24,519 get bad vibes, Like the first time John Bahner spoke and I was I 145 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,799 was still young and impressionable, so I was. I was excited that Republicans 146 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:28,919 were in charge and the bomb of years, like everything's gonna be better. 147 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,879 And I see this this dude just weeping, and I'm like, oh man, 148 00:10:33,159 --> 00:10:37,159 that was like my first taste of no, nothing's getting better. Absolutely 149 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:39,799 nothing's getting better. And I'm starting to get that feeling from Johnson. I'd 150 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,559 love to be surprised, but right now is in the interest of not rocking 151 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,720 the boat he has portrayed it looks like he said to portray Tellraville on this. 152 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:54,360 So they're going to blast through it and then what they're not going to 153 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,120 strip it in the NBA. So it's basically Tumberville at this point is looking 154 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:03,759 at defeat because the Senate, including at least nine Republicans politicals report that includes 155 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:09,200 ten, is going to vote to change the rules of the Senate so that 156 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,080 the Senate becomes the House representatives, but just on this one issue, and 157 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:16,919 just for a limited period of time, and they no longer need sixty votes 158 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,559 to promote all of these military guys, by the way, some of which 159 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:26,559 russ Votes Group has discovered are extremely committed to woke ideologies and critical race theory 160 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,559 and all this garbage. But they just want to rush them through, and 161 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,559 Tumberville does not want to see that happen. He doesn't want the Senate to 162 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:41,639 change the rules. 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The congressman are how many members of Congress were around last 196 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:31,080 time there was a regular process, which is twenty years ago, I think. 197 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:35,399 And the other thing to keep in mind and congressman, Yeah, and 198 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:41,120 part of all of this is that Mike Johnson now has to negotiate between the 199 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,840 rock and hard place of you know, the hard place being that the Republican 200 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:50,200 base is tired of blank checks. To borrow a McCarthy phrase to Ukraine, 201 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,879 there needs to be money going to Israel again. The base wants to see 202 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,360 military support for Israel, financial support for Israel. The wants to see immigration 203 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,679 reform that's serious and not reform in the Washington sense, which Democrats will try 204 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,320 to come to the table on sending more money to the border, sending more 205 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,799 money to border patrol, stuff like that, instead of actually reforming asylum laws 206 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,480 like HR two would do. That's a build the Republicans in the House pass, 207 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:22,519 and they have that on the table right now. It's going to be 208 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,799 a non starter with Democrats, as Democrats have already said. So all of 209 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,320 this is happening as there's a rush to pass a flurry of bills, And 210 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:39,120 this is one thing that Republicans are so exhausted with and fed up with Tommy 211 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:43,919 Tarberville. They are if they're fed up with anything, it's Tommy Tarberville. 212 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,039 And Lindsey Graham sort of gets some cred from the conservative movement and the pro 213 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:52,240 life movement because it's sort of an expectations versus reality thing. He's been surprisingly 214 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:56,320 good, as people see it on life over the years. That man was 215 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:02,639 righteously indignant about what happened about at Kavanaugh. He was the Tommy Tuberville of 216 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:07,039 the Kavanaugh hearings, of the Kavanaugh confirmation. Graham, Yeah, Lindsay Graham 217 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:10,519 was Graham two point oh or Graham three point oh. Remember Graham was running 218 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:14,320 for re election at that time. Great point. He also he was out 219 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,519 every single week raising money with Sean Hannity. He just wants to get some 220 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:22,120 money for his friends in the war. You should do your South Carolina accident 221 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:25,120 in front of the South Carolina friend we're about to have lunch with, because 222 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:29,240 I think you're going to get tossed out. I don't know. South Carolina 223 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,840 has a thing with its senators, one of them, one of them supposedly 224 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,440 as a girlfriend. Okay, Chris, what were you going to say? 225 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,399 Ran for president? Just long enough for that? Oh my gosh, go 226 00:16:37,399 --> 00:16:40,519 ahead, that's all I've got. That's not all you got. You were 227 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:42,399 typing away in your little iPad. Oh. I was looking up an event 228 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 that I wanted to talk about later that happened last night, because you reminded 229 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,559 me. With Ukraine, a friend of mine invited me. He's a good 230 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:52,039 friend. He's down from New York to go to a National Review party for 231 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,600 a new book called The Sun Will Rise, not The Sun Also Rises. 232 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,440 It's about a different war. It's a fiction account about the Ukraine War. 233 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:07,559 An Australian correspondent about like the courageous victory in Ukraine. Lots of Australians on 234 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:10,839 below deck, and I just thought, is this below deck? Danenda? 235 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,039 I thought it was just so perfect. I did. I could not attend. 236 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,400 Unfortunately, that are so perfect. We didn't have this point in twenty 237 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,960 twenty three, with like the House representatives no longer wanting to fund this Ukraine 238 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:25,119 War, the Republicans in the Senate so need to come around to it. 239 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,319 All these people who called me and Molly handing Away and other people like Russia 240 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,200 supporters for saying this is a dumb war. I wasn't going to go well, 241 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,039 are starting to change their minds, and it's gotten to a point so 242 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:41,480 dire. The National Review is literally hosting fan fiction Ukraine war parties. What 243 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,799 else is that like? Yeah, no, I mean it's what it sounds 244 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,400 like in real time. It's Uh, it's a lot of coping. I 245 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,880 see a lot of coping going on in DC Moscow. Molly, I'll never 246 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,640 missed an opportunity to call her that she was out there. I got into 247 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:03,839 some arguments, probably one of the only times I've ever argued with Kim strassel 248 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:07,319 Chernobyl Chris. Yeah, right, was uh trying to do all this is 249 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,799 done more that wasn't necessarily in America's just interests. But uh, that was 250 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:18,359 it. That was what That was what I was talking about. Okay, 251 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:22,480 you wanted to use the phrase fan fiction. All the things I learned about 252 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,559 this event two days ago, it happened last night, and I just giggle 253 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:27,400 every time it comes up. I think, really though, this is from 254 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Mike. So pretend you're Mike Johnson right now. You're juggling Ukraine. You're 255 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,440 juggering juggling Israel. You're juggling the bud He's got a lot of balls in 256 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,920 the air, but you're also juggling Matt Gates. And I'm not I'm not 257 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,799 saying this in a way I agree. I think there's been some in the 258 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,720 hero Santas. Yeah, well there's that too. I think there have been 259 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:52,799 some seriously troubling signs so far. But also this is Republicans. I mean, 260 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,079 I don't want to blame Republicans here, but in some sense, I'm 261 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,000 not saying a very un impressive lot. I don't care about the Kevin McCarthy's 262 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,519 of I think it was tactically stupid. I think they would be in a 263 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,160 much better position right now if Kevin McCarthy was negotiating this. But I also 264 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,359 don't really care that some people had real, you know, not just Matt 265 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,039 Gate's personal gripes, but there were real gripes about what happened in May with 266 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,640 the debt ceiling deal. So I understand all of that. But the fact 267 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:26,079 that what Republicans are so eager to dispense with is a popular with their base 268 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:33,279 stand against Pentagon idiocy in the face of Chris as you said, as you 269 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,279 said the Pentagon. If they thought they have set all of their surrogates into 270 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:41,400 the media over the course of the last six months, call him a trader 271 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:47,759 and say that this is harming the national security of the United States. So 272 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,680 if you are at the Pentagon and you are faced with something, let's take 273 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,599 them at their word that is genuinely harming the national security of the United States. 274 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,920 And you can either get rid of abortion travel, which is probably used 275 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,440 by maybe a dozen people a year. You can either get rid of that 276 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,359 or they refused to provide any date on it. Exactly. Yeah, they 277 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,519 won't provide data. They say they save military readiness military Okay, prove it. 278 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:15,319 So they people are even using this, they can get rid of that 279 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,359 and immediately solve their problem. Have all of their nominees just fast tracked through 280 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,000 the Austin's an idea logue and so is the president on this? You think 281 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,720 Lloyd okay, I don't know. I don't mean this as a leading question. 282 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,240 You think Lloyd Austin is an idea log because he's very much so. 283 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,720 I don't know that he's a pro abortion ideaologue so much as he's a pro 284 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:37,839 institution ideologue, which is how dare you take a stand against my institute. 285 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:40,640 I got to look up the footage we talked about this the other day of 286 00:20:40,759 --> 00:20:45,799 him reviewing troops in the Philippines wearing a face mask and advisor. Now, 287 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,599 to have to have a Secretary of Defense stressed up like a mentally ill liberal 288 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:57,160 woman is so embarrassing, and like that's that we all knew. We all 289 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,799 lived through COVID. The people who are face masks were crazy people and audilogs. 290 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,079 You come here every Thursday just to air your grievances on a weekly basis, 291 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,359 which that'll be coming up later this month. I can't wait. I 292 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,400 forgot about it. Yeah, but it's just a sign. It's a sign 293 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:18,039 of serious mental illness to be doing that, and just extreme devotion to the 294 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:22,640 cause. When was it long after I stopped wearing a mask? Well, 295 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,440 that doesn't tell me much. I can google it. Why don't you filibuster 296 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,160 from it a film buster? Wll you google Lloyd Austin? I don't know. 297 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,319 I think a lot of stupid mask See if that pulls up. I 298 00:21:32,319 --> 00:21:36,079 think a lot of it really is though that there's this idea, because again 299 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,079 the Pentagon could get rid of this. It probably affects a dozen people a 300 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,880 year, and in a way, by the way, that is arguably illegal. 301 00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:47,240 July twenty twenty one. Not great, Not great. Did the Philippines 302 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:49,759 have a rule? I don't know. We're not going to get to the 303 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:53,480 bottom of it. It looks like, oh, okay, you're talking about 304 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,720 a visor. Lloyd Austin is wearing a full face Vibe advisor and a mask. 305 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:03,200 He looks I mean, he looks like a visor mask with a mask 306 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:06,680 prequels villain in Star Wars. I thought you meant he just had a mask 307 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:08,759 on and was wearing like an army visor or something. No, he actually 308 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:14,279 is wearing one of the face mask visors. He looks like a translucent Darth 309 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,759 Vader, and then he's a mask like a bad guy in Spaceballs. That's 310 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:21,559 exactly what he looks like. Yes, okay, so get this in and 311 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:26,720 he's sort of walking very legally, but he has this ridiculous Darth Vader translucent 312 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:29,000 face mask, and you know, this is actually I think it might be 313 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,519 one of the things that started the shift in kind of Republican opinion about the 314 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:38,200 Pentagon, because Tucker went after this. Tucker had been going after Lloyd Austin 315 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,279 for being ietey log for a while, and that was like insane. I 316 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:48,279 mean, you're supposed to genuflect before the military if you're a Republican. And 317 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:49,759 Tucker started to knowes, hey, these guys are yes, these guys are 318 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:53,039 going nuts. But this is the one he got in a lot of trouble 319 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:56,720 for because because he's like, he went on this rant about like, well, 320 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,599 if Floyd Austin's actually so concerned about COVID, there's one thing that we 321 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,200 do know that there's links to morbidity, and that's obesity. And he said, 322 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,039 not only is he stupid, but he's a pig, not any pig, 323 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,440 but he's stupid, and just laughed and people went bonkers. But then 324 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,440 twenty four hours later, after all the pundits start of saying like, how 325 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,640 dare he? How dare he? The dust settled, and most Republicans are 326 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,799 like, yeah, I actually right, I actually think that's what this is 327 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,759 about. Though, for like the Lindsay Grahams and the Lloyd Austin's, is 328 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:32,079 that like, how dare you not genuflect? How dare you? We are 329 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:38,759 not giving in to the crazies, the sort of maga crazies on this abortion 330 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,880 travel issue, but not even abortion travel. We're not giving into them on 331 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Tuberville specifically, we're not giving into giving into them because if we do that, 332 00:23:48,039 --> 00:23:53,799 then by golly, Ukraine will fall. But they're genuinely afraid of the 333 00:23:53,839 --> 00:24:00,039 sort of Tucker esque sentiment that has taken hold in the Republican base, and 334 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:04,119 they don't want to cave one inch because they are staunch institutionalists. The Pentagon 335 00:24:04,279 --> 00:24:07,480 is their thing, you know. It's like when the pentagons. They think 336 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:11,960 that Pentagon's got a little magic bubble around it that protects it from the woke 337 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,519 rot that's just destroying institutions across the world. It's like when you have a 338 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:19,000 nickname for your brother and someone else uses it and you're like, oh, 339 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,599 no, no, no, no, I'm the only one that's allowed too, 340 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:23,839 just the thing between you and your brother. No, I don't actually 341 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,920 have any nicknames for him, but it's ever I don't think so. But 342 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,039 it's like four Slugger, like those nicknames that neglectful fathers give the kids that 343 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,400 they wose names they can't kiss, right. I think they called them Bud 344 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,079 when he was little. He's four years younger than me. Try that men. 345 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Try that in a fight with your wife someday, like use those like, 346 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,200 all right, easy slugger, I hang on their pal it's champ. 347 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,880 Take a breather, it's wild. Let's take a knee. It's wild. 348 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,119 It's like there's an instant chemical reaction in the female brain if you do that 349 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,480 to them. But I think that is what the institutionalists see this as. 350 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:02,119 It's like, you know what, this is not yours to criticize, This 351 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,519 is ours to run. Let us keep the keys, You keep your grabby 352 00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:10,200 little pause off what we're doing over here, because we know what's best. 353 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:17,720 And you are poisoned by the radicals, the Maga radicals who think maybe so 354 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,559 much blood shouldn't be spilled over the dawn boss, maybe maybe not, Like 355 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:23,839 well, it looks like that was going to be wrapping down. I mean 356 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,039 Porzolenski, right, what happens to him? No, not poor Zolensky. 357 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,400 I mean, he's all along. I have understood. I just think he's 358 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,000 going to have a furtive final couple of years. All along, I've I've 359 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,920 understood Zelensky so much more than I've understood Lindsey Graham groveling at the feet of 360 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,920 Zelensky or not just Graham, you know, Susan Collins, any of the 361 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,359 Schumer because Zelensky is doing what you would expect the president if you are a 362 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,319 Ukrainian. Actually I didn't expect that, so krudos to him. I thought 363 00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:57,279 he was going to flay you with a couple of million bucks. No, 364 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,759 but he stayed not yet. Well, I mean eventually he's going to have 365 00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:06,039 to because Putin doesn't like shake and make up, hugging makeup, and it 366 00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:08,920 doesn't I mean, are you not a Putin fan? Me? No, 367 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,279 I don't. I don't have any kind of searing hatred for him like other 368 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,920 people do. You probably should. Why what do you mean why he's not 369 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:26,359 nice? He instigated a completely bloodthirsty invasion that has led to tens of thousands. 370 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,519 That sounds like a problem of reason for someone from Ukraine to hate Putin? 371 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,079 Okay, Well, I just I mean there's a lot of bad dudes 372 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,200 out there also, I feel a little. I mean, there's just so 373 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,640 much mindless, seething hatred of him in Washington, DC. Well, No, 374 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,480 I get it that he's he's the avatar for all things bad. Yeah, 375 00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,680 I think that's stupid. Yeah, I don't see any worst world leaders 376 00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:57,200 than out there than putin people justin Trudeau for example, the scourge of the 377 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,920 truckers. Yeah, but this is I mean, so they had a sure 378 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,440 of British Columbia. You were thinking so hard. I was trying to come 379 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,920 up with something, but curse of Calgary. You're really you're expecting next week 380 00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:18,559 some of this to flare up next what like we're talking early next week's Yeah, 381 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,000 yeah with this Basically, it stinks. It's sad. He made a 382 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:30,039 brave stand. It's over that started to fall when the Republicans went out and 383 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,720 just blasted him on TV every night, you know, every single day. 384 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,119 I missed Tucker Carlson being on Fox News. I think the Republican primary would 385 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,400 have been dramatically different. The Republican primary would have dramatic, dramatically different. 386 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:45,319 You wouldn't have you would Yeah, jd Vance would have passed this train bill 387 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,960 like easily blasted people like Ted Cruz for getting in the way. Uh, 388 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:56,079 the populous loss of really strong ally Tumberville would be If not him, then 389 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,279 sarrogate's for him. Because I hated interviewing politicians because they're not very good review 390 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:06,119 subjects would be on there, Lindsey Graham and Joni Earnstein Company would be getting 391 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,599 slammed from the top slot. And so I miss him on that. He 392 00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,279 drove the narrative in a really important way on some of these issues, Like 393 00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,960 he's still driving the narrative on X, but still we're not at the point 394 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,640 where that fully replaces the potency of a prime time looking forward his new product, 395 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,279 which is supposed to be launching fairly soon. Yeah, well, but 396 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,839 I'm missing him on that, and it's over. I mean at this point, 397 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,960 now that they're going to conference, we can point out that it's insane 398 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:41,920 that Republicans are taking the Department of Defense his position on abortion over their own 399 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,839 base. Where you can think it's insane that senators and congressmen decided not to 400 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,039 vote on something and just to do it shadily. We can think it's a 401 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:52,279 letdown. I know, we've got a lot of balls in there that Johnson 402 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,960 didn't come in and do something about it. And we'll see. I mean, 403 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,359 there's still time to see. He could he could go in a really 404 00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,680 bad direction. He still has time to potential scurb in a really good direction 405 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,839 too. Yeah, I get that he didn't take over our burning ship with 406 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960 an American public, including Republican voters, and I think this did play in 407 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,960 the lost election, who are fed up with just ridiculous Republican in fighting. 408 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:21,799 It looks sat I think tarm Revel will probably this week or next and avoid 409 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,720 the breaking of the Senate to let I think the latest news is a he'll 410 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:30,039 let he floated, letting nominations through except for four star generals. By the 411 00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,119 way, we don't need more four star generals. Are we finding World War 412 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:37,440 two? Hey everybody, this is Sarah Carter from the Sarah Carter Show. 413 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,720 Thanks so much for listening to the Federalist Radio Hour. 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I mean, that 431 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,119 is just absolutely pathetic that we cannot the Republican Party can't stand up for its 432 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,440 base for a second, to the point where there's a you can't do any 433 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,279 of this without threatening institutional changes to parliamentary procedure. I mean just completely, 434 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,519 which is not you know, as set and stoness and people act like it 435 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:14,640 is. But it is still just we cannot do anything anymore. We cannot 436 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,119 do anything. The media can't tell the truth about this, which is not 437 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,599 entirely unsurprising because most of their sources are people in the Pentagon and the intelligence 438 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,079 community on these issues, so of course they're taking the framing. But the 439 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,200 framing on this for an average American that would be most helpful, I'm not 440 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720 even talking about for a Republican voter. For your average American, that would 441 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,839 be most helpful and would be most neutral and honest, is that there's a 442 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:41,079 completely radical policy the failing Pentagon implemented, one Republican senator standing up against it, 443 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,480 and the Pentagon is instead crying national security emergency. Well, I'm glad 444 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,279 we get to talk about it here, and I'm glad we get to write 445 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,440 you get to write about it. The federalist im Glad Molly's been able to 446 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,680 do so much because when Jim DeMint was making stands like this back in the 447 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,160 day, by himself a disliked man and amongst his colleagues, but now probably 448 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:07,759 the most popular Senator in South Carolina, partially because he's retired. Politicians always 449 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:13,000 get more popular when helps but he's a great man. Uh, there was 450 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:19,319 no one really backing Jesse Helms when he would pick just random appointees and say, 451 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,279 this person doesn't get their job until I get this thing. So it's 452 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:27,880 it's good that there's someone to stand up for. There's some people to talk 453 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:35,680 about this, but it it's just just like the mask picture laid bare exactly 454 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680 like what kind of person Lloyd Austin is this lays bare? What kind of 455 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,319 people? A lot of these Republican senators and congressmen are what they care about 456 00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,799 in Congress with their part strip it so it's on the it's on the Senate, 457 00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:51,559 and the Senate everyone always knows. See, Tumerville is new to d 458 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400 C, so he didn't know that the most sacred thing in d C, 459 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,880 aside from abortion for Democrats is the kind of gun budget for Republicans. Yeah. 460 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,039 Christopher Bedford, executive editor over at the Common Sense Society, I learned 461 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,240 something today over Thanksgiving. Man, we had an iHeart Media executive over and 462 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,960 she said, hey, by the way, tell your listeners to go in 463 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:15,200 their app and rate your podcast five stars if they like it, because it 464 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:20,000 pushes up the ability to get notifications for it. That is absolutely true. 465 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:23,039 And I always feel bad like plugging it because I just appreciate it. I 466 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:28,319 appreciate people listening. Only five stars give us five stars. I just appreciate 467 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:30,559 people listening seriously. So I'm not as good about that as I should be. 468 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:32,680 But thank you Chrisopher a reminder, Yeah, it does help us a 469 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,240 lot. If you rate and review the podcast. Make sure you subscribe right 470 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,279 now. Of course you will. You're a tech executive, after all, 471 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,480 you know exactly how to do it. I don't know how to download a 472 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,279 podcast well. Also, that's a good reminder. Send us your emails to 473 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:49,920 radio at the Federals dot Calm if you have anything you want Chris to address 474 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,799 in his annual airing of grievances. He does not need a prompt obviously. 475 00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:54,440 He can do this without any prompting whatsoever, at any time of the day, 476 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,440 at the drop of a hat. He can air as grievances for at 477 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,279 least one hour. But you will be doing it as we each Christmas. 478 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,200 So thank you guys all for listening. We really do appreciate it very much. 479 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,920 I'm Emily Jashnski, culture editor here at The Federalist. 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