WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.000 How you doing out there. It's me Tigger and Duc Wayne Duck. It's 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.759 me Bunkers Deep Bobcat. All right, y'all, did it great? Your 3 00:00:09.919 --> 00:00:14.560 favorite firefly you desire? Hold the old knock guy. My name is Jim 4 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:20.120 Cummings and welcome to tuned In. All right, welcome back everybody. This 5 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:25.359 is tuned In with Jim Cummings. Today we have Otis Rushka that Jack Brazier. 6 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.920 But thanks for coming out to play this morning. All right, you're 7 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:30.879 having thank you, thank you, thank you. We're here a beautiful Salt 8 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:36.479 Lake city for another yet another conventional con yep, and uh we're just here 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:41.280 being unconventional. That's what we do best. It is formula. Obviously you've 10 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.520 got this to do today. Well, I just turned twenty, so there's 11 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:48.359 probably a few in my lifetime that I got ahead my next hills. I've 12 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:54.600 been writing a lot of screenplays and working on a few right now that I'm 13 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.439 very passionate about. I'm not gonna get into too much detail. Once I 14 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:59.520 started on the restor you don't want to jinx it. I don't want to 15 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.039 drink anything. Oh gosh, yeah, that would be that would be a 16 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:07.159 terrible thing. Thank you, fake bamboo something just in case that's real. 17 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:14.719 Yeah, but lots of writing, lots are just mental exercise, trying to 18 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:21.120 be as creative as possible and productive despite this strike and all that. But 19 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:23.640 I'm also I'm living in Nashville and I'm playing lots of music and that's been 20 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:29.799 a great creative vice and super inspired. Well, you can just walk down 21 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:36.040 the street in Nashville and it's music's coming up, the music sei Yeah, 22 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:40.680 yeah, yeah, man, that's the old wazoo joke. I used to 23 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.640 play wazoo in high school anyway. But uh yeah, well that's got to 24 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:48.439 be a great place for you, man, very fertile, totally fertile, 25 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.439 yeah, supple land, you know, you know well that too, but 26 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.079 mentally and spiritually without yes, yeah, Oh my goodness, it's amazing. 27 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.920 It's it's such a it's it's so strange the difference that waking up in the 28 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:06.120 trees and waking up in nature can do to somebody. I've like, I 29 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:08.199 wake up and I feel I don't really like using the word kid, I 30 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.560 wake up and I feel so peaceful, all right, I saw a peace. 31 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:19.599 I feel so unaffected, like uh not like contrived. But where I'm 32 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.319 at you know what I mean, And that's a really nice thing. It 33 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:25.159 kind of just feels like a great foundation. And maybe it is something about 34 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:29.199 the land or the neutrality or something. I don't know. I just really 35 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.159 dig that place. Yeah. Good for you, man, Yeah I like 36 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:37.159 it too. We're thinking of moving somewhere like that or maybe there. Do 37 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.759 you have any houses for rent in your neighborhood? I got four? I 38 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.800 think. Okay, well, yeah, to check his watch, it's not 39 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:49.599 wearing and that is from our party last night. I see you're still there. 40 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.759 You get it off? I nodded off. Oh, like a like 41 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.879 a rabbit dog, feral beast. Yes, that's exactly well. I feel 42 00:02:59.879 --> 00:03:02.199 like a feral beast this morning. Hi. Everybody would just Sayaz is a 43 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:08.960 feral beast? Oh, I would tas very feral definitely, Like God, 44 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:13.479 you're good, Oh man, I could I can easily do Taz at this 45 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.599 time of day. That's a new one for you. Yeah, that's a 46 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.759 new one for me. Yeah. He's the anti pool. Yeah you know. 47 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.360 But but I'm just glad you're here. Man, This is great, 48 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.360 This is great. Did you grow up watching Disney Big Time? Yeah? 49 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:34.439 What was your favorite show? Third show. I don't know, I've heard 50 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.960 show. I mean watching We Need the Pooh, the Huffle Up Halloween just 51 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:39.199 because of your hero and brain. And that was one of my favorite movies 52 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:42.479 that I watched that back to back to back to back to back. The 53 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.360 candy looks so good in that movie. And I'm my mom used to read 54 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.400 me all these Winny of the Pooh books and that's saint and stuff, and 55 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.840 I loved I love that stuff. I also watched a lot for some reason. 56 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:58.520 My dad used to put on a lot of mash and happy Days and 57 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.199 cheers and uh oh yeah sure, Family Ties. I was. I talked 58 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.120 to briefly, super duper briefly Michael J. Fox, and I said, 59 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.520 uh, I think all I said was I loved you and Family Ties Alex 60 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:13.439 P. Keaton And then he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah 61 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.639 that was a pretty good. That was a really good Michael. Yeah, 62 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:26.639 yeah, very sincere, yeah yeah, sincerity, yes, yes, his 63 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.240 lack of contact and so, how many of the conventions are you doing these 64 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:36.480 days speak of him? I don't know, maybe do you four or four 65 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:42.600 a year? I don't know, it differs. Yeah, I've been doing 66 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.680 more of them recently, as well might as well, right, I got 67 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.360 nother Yeah, but I have fun at these things. I noticed that that 68 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.639 although after like the weekend, I'm kind of drained and went out, I 69 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:57.600 also feel super duper fulfilled. Like m hm, it's such a meaningful it's 70 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.800 such meaningful work. And I don't want to sound like a a privileged dude. 71 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.560 No, no, go ahead, but I love acting. I love 72 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:10.480 any self expression, whether it's music or playing dress up and putting on a 73 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.439 voice or doing whatever it is. That's so, that's like, that's why 74 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.839 I think I'm here on this planet for a big part of it. But 75 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:23.079 then to get to meet these people and here there their opinions and their how 76 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.199 they were moved in their aspects and their stories and and and and then you 77 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.600 understand, like wow, so so much individuality in each of these people are 78 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.680 such a valuable asset to this world. And there's just so there's so much 79 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:39.360 sweetness and so much honesty here. And I walk away and I'm like, 80 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.720 man, this is that's like the cherry on how that's the icing on the 81 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.399 cake, because I mean it's kind of like it's kind of like an applause, 82 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.560 like you if you've done theater. It's like we're we're doing this because 83 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:48.879 I mean, at least for me, like I'm doing this almost selfishly because 84 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.600 I need It's like a compulsion. I need to. I love to play 85 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:55.199 pretend. And if I'm not playing pretend on a stage, which is like 86 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:59.920 the appropriate format for it, then I'll probably be doing something and freaking people 87 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:09.720 out and getting in trouble. But exactly, I would never. But no, 88 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.839 it's great. The validation is nice. It's nice. How old, 89 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.000 I agree? How old were you when you realize like this was your passion? 90 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:20.199 Being creative was your passion? I don't know when. I still don't 91 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:23.319 know if i've packed you well, I know for a fact, I don't 92 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:27.920 know when that age was, when that actual moment was that, like you 93 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:30.839 didn't have a light bulb moment, so to speak. Oh you know what, 94 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.920 No, I think I I think it was probably when I was like 95 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:38.040 ten years old and I played Gavroche and lay miss or. There was a 96 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.600 time when I played reped Heavy and Fiddler on the Roof when I was a 97 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.839 kid, and I had to memorize all those and like it's not easy. 98 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.319 How old were you when you were? Yeah, I was really young, 99 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:51.040 like shot like a jokingly young. Okay, yeah, like sardonically young. 100 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:57.319 And I was like maybe nine or something. And I remember I walked to 101 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:59.879 the audience and it was amazing. And then it goes into tradition. That's 102 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.560 it starts tradition, and that was awesome. And I remember I heard my 103 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.319 mom laugh in the spotlight wentunk like right then when it goes on tradition, 104 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.680 and then I was like, oh my god, I heard my mom laugh. 105 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:13.240 I heard the director of the theater the play laugh. If I can 106 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.839 do this for the rest of my life and I can make people happy, 107 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.800 that's what I've been trying to do. And maybe I've been doing it and 108 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:23.519 sort of let like not the hell's theest ways like, uh, you know, 109 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:27.560 maybe I'll lie to make somebody feel better about something. But it's just 110 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.199 so much I don't know, I don't know. I found it very valid, 111 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:33.079 valuable. And I also this I got in elementary school. I got 112 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:36.480 in trouble a lot. It was always in the principal's office, you too, 113 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.480 huh A big time? Oh yeah, I was just going around. 114 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:46.079 I guess, jeez, thanks for a long time. The same the same 115 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.759 thing, you know, something of the water. I got to know system 116 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:51.360 Mary Agnes very well, did you? And I didn't want to. Yeah, 117 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.480 I didn't want to. I knew it way too well. Well, 118 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.560 my problem was that all the nuns, like when I was coming up, 119 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.959 also taught my mom God Rest her soul. And she was like Saint Sally. 120 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:07.639 She was, Yeah I cut and I remember mother Brendan. She was 121 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.639 from Ireland, and uh, and I was just a horrible kid. I 122 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.839 was just a terrible kid. And she said, I can't believe you're Sally 123 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.879 while it's his boy, won't it be me who's making a novena for your 124 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.399 poor mother who has to put up with the likes of you? And so 125 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.040 I like, that's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, Okay, I 126 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:33.440 must be on something, doing something right here getting Jesus' attention through this fiendish 127 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.320 nun. Anyway, but memories, wow, good old memory. It is 128 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:45.440 beautiful. But it worked out for us both, Yeah, Bunky are paid 129 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:50.480 off. Yeah, which I mean it's some of the most impressionable and I 130 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.919 mean obviously maybe this isn't obvious, but like the most like what what do 131 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.320 you call it, like fundamental developmental use. I think they shape your adulthood 132 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.480 big time. Oh yeah, yeah and absolutely yeah. And the cool thing 133 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.840 about it was that I found that all the stuff I was getting in trouble 134 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:15.279 for at school, I was getting praised almost like applauded for uh in theater 135 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.600 And that was like what WHOA if I can so? If I can do 136 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:24.519 are amen? Amen? And yes, okay, I know. That was 137 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.240 like, wow, I think that breakthrough. I was like, if I 138 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.559 can do this and not harm people and I make my mom made and upset 139 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:33.799 and worry that I'm gonna get kicked out of school, Oh my god, 140 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.159 it's horrible to see her cry and all this stuff. Yeah, if I 141 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.559 can do it and I can see her cartiers of joy because I'm standing in 142 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:43.559 and living in trying to access my big greatest potential and be the best whatever 143 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.720 it was, be my authentic self, Yeah, then I can make her 144 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.120 proud of them. Yeah. I always said that I learned more in the 145 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.679 hallway being punished and told to stand out there than I did on the other 146 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.799 side of the thing, sitting in the classroom because I made this stupid mistake 147 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.000 of God. What was that movie, Oh, Peggy Sue got married? 148 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:05.799 It was and there was a point where I was actually stupid enough to tell 149 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.440 sister Ellen Rose speak, well, we're really having a lot of nuns today. 150 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.720 But I told you know, I was in algebra and I said, 151 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.320 uh, and I got an F or whatever. And she says, what 152 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.120 are you doing here? What the hell? You're not the dumbest kid. 153 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.519 Uh. I was close, but but she said, you can do better 154 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.840 than an F. And I go, you know, you're right. I 155 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.240 was shooting for a D minus. She goes, what what do you mean 156 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.200 you were shooting for a D. No, you can't shoot for a D 157 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.679 minus. You shoot for an A. And I go, no, no, 158 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.000 no, I know for a fact that I will ever use algebra in 159 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.559 this universe, no matter I could live to be five hundred years old, 160 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.399 never do one more algebra problem. I'm shooting for the lowest grade you got. 161 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:52.720 She goes, oh, really, you know, And then I could 162 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.200 see the horns coming, so I just got f's. You know. I 163 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.360 should never have told her that, but it reminded me that I think when 164 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.840 Kathleen turned and was Peggy who got married, but she went back and she 165 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.639 had a flashback or something, and she was She goes, I happen to 166 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.320 know for a fact I'm never going to use algebra, and I was thinking, 167 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:13.720 yes, me too, and oddly enough I don't still. In fact, 168 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.879 I yesterday I spent the whole day not doing algebra. Me too. 169 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.679 Wow, what are the odds you had another thing we have in common? 170 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:28.720 Too painful about you still do algebra in your day to day? No, 171 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.480 no, not so much. Yet, not so much. I try and 172 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.480 find the opportunity where I can. What school subject do you think you apply 173 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.159 most in your day to day adult Life's probably math, really, I would 174 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.399 say math bro math. I don't know if I learned it. Oh of 175 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.559 course I learned it, it's right, right, But it's also the math 176 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.639 I used. Kind of we're common. No, somebody asked me, hey, 177 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:50.240 Jack, where's the square sixty four last night? And I said eight? 178 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.960 And they're like, whoa, he's not, he's not actually that messed 179 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:56.240 up? Like that's I think an easy one though, right, Yeah, 180 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:01.600 that's an easy one. Yeah, I actually knew that one classic party track 181 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:09.559 algebra. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well we were talking about skateboarding last night, 182 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.519 right, you skateboard? I love it? Yeah? Yeah, that's 183 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.240 what are your passions? Right? Big time, big time, big type 184 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.440 I do skaters, I don't even know. Yeah, as well as I 185 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.360 used to. I used to just be I went through a phase where I 186 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.159 was like, it doesn't what does it matter if I get hurt, Like 187 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.120 what, Yeah, I just get hurt, like I break my arm or 188 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.840 whatever. That's kind of funny as long as I get it on camera, 189 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:35.320 which is kind of not a great way. As long as I get it 190 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.080 tape, then he's an actor. I don't know if we mentioned that that's 191 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.600 kind of a burden. And then I was like, Okay, you know 192 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.919 what, I'm gonna start just skating for me. And then I was like, 193 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.399 I'm gonna put them for that case. I'm just gonna do less impressive 194 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.720 stuff because I'm just gonna because you're already impressed with yourself. Yeah, oh 195 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.960 my god, be un belief. No, I don't know, but I 196 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:56.000 guess I do love skatering. I love the culture. I think it's a 197 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:01.879 brilliant thing. And that's surfing as well. And I love the board stuff. 198 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.320 Yeah. No, yeah, And I didn't know that we had Sonny 199 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:11.279 Souljak on the podcast. Awesome. Oh yeah, I mean it was great. 200 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.919 Yeah, it was crazy. I love that you know, we've been 201 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.840 doing these and it's fun to learn all these things about people that you know, 202 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:20.679 you know them, but you don't know them. Yeah, and here 203 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.559 we are. Yeah, but it was cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. 204 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.879 I think that's one of the coolest things about podcasting is like it's such a 205 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:33.799 collision of worlds. Like you'll see people from such different walks of life, 206 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:37.279 you know, come together and find commonality, and you know, it's just 207 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.639 it's a conversation. You know, it's like it's so casual and like you 208 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.559 can get to know somebody on a podcast and like, you know, what 209 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.639 do William Shatner and Steve O have in common? You know, Oh, 210 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:50.279 that would be a really wack up conversation. Yeah, Shatner was on Steve 211 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:56.200 O's Wild Ride. Yeah, you talked to Pauli Shore. How do you 212 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:03.240 think that conversation would I don't know. I have the gymzoughs. Yeah. 213 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.879 But we actually did a movie together, uh, which is really a Hollywood 214 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.200 thing to say. And boy in mind, never know a Hollywood guy. 215 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.679 No, he was in a Goofy movie. Goofy movie. I love that 216 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.720 movie. I love that movie too. Okay, that's another one I love 217 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.799 and me so sad. God. Yeah, if anybody makes me sad in 218 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.919 the Disney, uh, make him as universe universe. Uh it's Goofy. 219 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:31.320 I'm always feeling real bad for Goofy always, and like even in yeah Mickey's 220 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.240 Christmas Carol. Oh yeah that one. Yeah, yeah, you run that 221 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.960 one, I think, I think so I love that. Not the old, 222 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:39.840 old old one from that but the one from like the eighties. Yes, 223 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.440 that's the one. Yeah, that's one. Yeah, I was peed 224 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:45.799 on that one. Oh my god, it's a big one. Yeah, 225 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:46.960 that's the one when you go in his room and he's like get in the 226 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.600 grapes and oh no, no that's not true. He's one of his cigar 227 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.679 and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah that's him. I understand now. 228 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.639 Yeah, I'm making it. Don't try that at home, kids, So 229 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.240 that's bad for you. Yeah, I would know. It's so is skateboarding. 230 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.639 But yep, you're going to do it anyway, so how can you 231 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:07.919 do? Yeah? Yeah, those are cool, cool times. Yeah, 232 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:09.559 and you know what, it's cool Like you said, we were talking about 233 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.120 this last night. Actually a little bit I think is like we're talking about 234 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.799 music, and then there's so many like subliminal subversive like forms of language or 235 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:24.440 communication within even like instrumental music, or if it's anything like fashion like self 236 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:31.879 expression or or is it skateboarding or surf or whatever it is or uh I 237 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:33.799 think feels a little bit obvious, like that's a communication tool. Sure, 238 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.919 yes, but it's really cool. I don't know. And a lot of 239 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.679 a lot of it is sort of kind of acting under the broad scope, 240 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.440 like telling stories. Yeah, yeah, we're all doing whatever it is, 241 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.360 any creative pursuit. Well that's what that's where it all came from. I 242 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.799 think, right back when we're all sitting around campfires. Ah yeah. And 243 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.759 then and then that's kind of where where Shavez was born. Yes, right, 244 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.919 that's the silver screen wasn't quite there yet, but it was on its 245 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.679 way. Oh yeah yeah. And I like to say myself, you know, 246 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:10.399 I love acting because like storytelling is like literally in our DNA, Like 247 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.000 yeah, I's saying, yes, you know, storytelling is older than language. 248 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.320 You know, you go into a caveman's cave and they had cave drawings. 249 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:21.039 They were telling stories before they had written language, you know, and 250 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:25.559 it's like it's fascinating and I think it's so important and so many lessons and 251 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:29.960 cultures were passed down through stories. Oh yeah, you know, like a 252 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.399 lot of the times, you know, people bock at Hollywood these days and 253 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:34.679 blah blah blah. But I think it's really like not to sound too like, 254 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.919 well, but I really do think it's like an important thing to have. 255 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.759 God, I agree. Well, you know, I read somewhere or 256 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:47.159 maybe I heard him say it, but I think Steven Spielberg doesn't call himself 257 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:52.320 a director, a producer, author, but he's a storyteller, you know. 258 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.399 That's and that's what he's really good at. Yeah. So yeah, 259 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:03.240 so here we are. Yeah, stories please please. You're STEVENS. Bilberg. 260 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:07.400 Have I ever met him? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was 261 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:14.799 a couple of times because of animaniacs. But I did this movie. I 262 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.799 was I was the bad guy in Ah. That's why I'm a one in 263 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.480 the Kevin Bacon game. By the way, Kevin Bacon was Balto in the 264 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:25.960 six Kevin Bacon Yeah, yeah or whatever is it sick? Yeah? Six 265 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.440 degrees that's right. Wow. Yeah, I'm one. Now you're a two. 266 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:34.119 You probably were one anyway, but yeah, but I ended up being 267 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.440 the bad guy in Balto and they had they had cast it like three times, 268 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.440 and Steven Spielberg it was his movie, and uh, he was just 269 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:48.799 tired of having to, you know, go through this actor or that actor 270 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.599 this. I won't name the other guys who were before me, but they're 271 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.359 famous, they were on camera famous and uh, and so they finally he 272 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.720 called up ic M, where I was at the time, and he said, 273 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.359 can you get me somebody who can act wet in the shower for God's 274 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:04.839 sake or something like that. So they sent me over there and I got 275 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.519 the gig and then I spent the day with him, and he said, 276 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:12.960 Okay, I'm gonna do this right, I'm going to direct this new bad 277 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.559 guy. And so I spent the day with Steven Spilberg. So that was 278 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.480 pretty cool. That's really cool. Yeah, you get a phone call I 279 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:25.000 was just about to say, and he's sitting there and he's like, oh, 280 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:26.880 okay, excuse me. Oh yeah, my agent Jeff Danus a cool 281 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.599 guy. He said it was the only time he ever went to work with 282 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.359 me. He goes, wait, Steven's gonna be there all day, and 283 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:37.400 I go, you know what, I'm gonna go with you. And so 284 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.559 he went and hung out, well, hung out with Steven Spielberg and all 285 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.319 day long, and and he's going, oh, you know, I got 286 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.960 to take a phone call. Yeah, yeah, hey Bill, Yeah, 287 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.519 oh god, yeah yeah, Schindler's List. Yeah, I'm doing it right 288 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.519 now. I'm not doing it right now. I'm actually doing an animated feature. 289 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.519 But oh yeah, oh yeah, say hi to Hillary. Yeah, 290 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.880 tell her. I said, hello, Okay, yeah, oh the kid 291 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.680 too. Oh that's crazy. I gotta go, I gotta go. I 292 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.160 got this guy staring at me and we're trying to get this cartoon movie made. 293 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:12.799 So uh. And then then he goes and then he gets off the 294 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:18.440 phone with President Clinton, and I go, okay, this is you know, 295 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.000 excuse me, the president's calling. How many times have you said that? 296 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.960 A few? But yeah, yeah, but it was the president of 297 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:33.240 the local supermarket. Yeah, so that was my one brush. That's amazing, 298 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:40.079 pretty cool. That's we should get him on the pick. Yeah, 299 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:44.000 well him too. You know what, Let's do them both, and surely 300 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.200 you have their number. Give him a jingle, we'll take a break, 301 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:51.240 we'll be right back. Okay, maybe not, but yeah, that that 302 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:56.440 wouldn't suck. Man. Have you done any voice acting or cartoons? I 303 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.079 love it? Yes, I know a few I didn't. There's one of 304 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:04.240 this picture movie I did call Luca that that's that was good. That was 305 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:11.319 a good one for me. And I love doing that. That's just amazing. 306 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.000 It's I kind of love doing voice work. It's I don't want to 307 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.880 make the comparison between doing live action and for stuff. It's a whole different 308 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.920 beast for sure. Yeah, but I like that you don't have to memorize 309 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.160 your lines. That's a very good thing. Do you like that? Ding 310 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.000 ding ding ding ding. That's the best part? Oh, that is absolutely 311 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:30.839 And how do you find it? How many times you ask this question in 312 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:33.680 your life? How many times? I mean, do you find it difficult 313 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.079 when you're acting to do dialogue with somebody like a fifty to fifty or whatever 314 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:41.359 and the person's not there? And it's oh yeah, I do that all 315 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.319 the time. I know, So do you care the time? Well? 316 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:48.119 I always like the privilege of being able to talk to another actor in the 317 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:51.599 room. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, plenty, that's nice. 318 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.279 Yeah. We did all the Star Wars Clone Wars, oh yeah, and 319 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.039 uh and Rebels, they were all everybody was there. I like that. 320 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.359 I like it better now since COVID, they really don't do it, no, 321 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.839 you know, so, yeah, I'm not crazy about it, but 322 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:10.799 I think before COVID was a real total, I mean, totally different. 323 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.920 Maybe I can't remember how different it was. Yeah, but I really prefer 324 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:19.480 it because if you add lib which I do, it either screws up or 325 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.200 enhances the line after you yeah, you know, and they and if that 326 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:27.240 person's not there, you know, what are you gonna do? I love 327 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.160 to see how involved you are in that in the creative process, since you're 328 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:34.680 such like you know, you're a seasoned veteran in this that's code for olds 329 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:40.240 for old antiquated. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun. 330 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.839 Well, you know, I like throwing curveballs. Yeah, you know. 331 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:48.480 The best example was Don Carnage from Tailspin Old Show, and it was 332 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.640 everybody when they think of a pirate, they always think of a crusty old 333 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:57.400 booger which out the sea like that and so, but instead I made him 334 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:03.200 from Gula or more crazy like in the Cyan, and uh, they thought, 335 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.519 Okay, that's weird. Let's do that weird guy. Yeah, so 336 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.200 I got the gig. That's awesome. So you know, you throw them 337 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.960 a curveball. That's so great, you know. I love that. It's 338 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.240 so much fun to take risks and calculated risks. That's what thing makes a 339 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.559 lot of the greatest. I mean, one of my favorite actress of all 340 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:25.319 time is Jack Lemon, and I always I can always tells I like them. 341 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:26.640 Yeah, I love I mean, man, but there's I mean, 342 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.119 there's not actors who can like Richard Burden is another my favorite actress. They're 343 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.200 very different that, you know, Gary Cooper is also, I don't know, 344 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:37.160 there's a thing about like when when they take these like calculated risks that 345 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.839 are like it feels very theater derived. That's something that's so impressive and I've 346 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.400 always wanted to implement that in my work. But sometimes I'm like, am 347 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.480 I being a dick? Like I want to jump up I'm doing a scene 348 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.079 in the high school thing I want I want to jump up and smack the 349 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.440 ceiling fan just because I'm I'm an actor and like, yeah, I want 350 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.359 to do the cool. I'm gonna do the weird thing that's not maybe not 351 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.200 worth it, I don't know, Yeah, but you gotta find that sweet 352 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.680 and I do sometimes and it feels just like, you know, the dip 353 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:06.400 in a beautiful roller coasters like good belly laugh or something. It feels Oh 354 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:07.960 that's cool. Yeah, yeah, what do you think the biggest risk you've 355 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:14.160 taken is? I mean, besides being I do like sometimes I'll do actually 356 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.240 like physical comedy gags. There's a bit when I'm supposed to I did this 357 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:23.160 show, this HBO show, uh, and I jump over a fence and 358 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.519 I love doing. I'm like so good at falling because there's a skateboarding I've 359 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:32.279 gotten some better at falling than than actual skating. And so I did like 360 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:33.759 a thing where I tripped on the thing and smacked my face in the sand 361 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.519 and I was like, oh oh. And then I had one thing where 362 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.640 I had a sugar glass bottle, but but the dresser didn't know that it 363 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.480 was sugar glass. Oh come on, he because that the prop guy. 364 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.920 They had the bottles, and they had sugar glass bottles because the thing the 365 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.680 bottle is supposed to break earlier in the scene. But then I did a 366 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.599 thing that was really funny. I had like this this intense conversation with this 367 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.079 guy. Then the show there's this guy who's been trying to get with my 368 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.240 mom or whatever. But he doesn't know that my mom is a lesbian and 369 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:00.319 all these things. And I take that. But he walks without a song, 370 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:02.559 walks away, and then I'm like and then I bring the bottle up. 371 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:03.720 This it felt really cool to me. I put the bottle to my 372 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:04.759 face and I was like, well, no, no, no no, 373 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.599 And I was like talking to him as if I was talking to the bottle, 374 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:11.240 as if it was the guy. If you keep turning like mumbling, 375 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.759 and then I punched the bottle and in my hand and I was ah, 376 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:18.200 and I thought that was kind of ouch. Yeah, but it didn't hurt 377 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.039 that bad. It was like whatever was italy this water? It makes me 378 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:29.400 realized it was a bullying pin yow. Yeah. Ouch. Well you have 379 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.640 you have stunt people for that, right, for bottle punching? Yeah, 380 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.720 this separate person. Yeah, I have a different stunt. That's good stuff. 381 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:44.440 Ye ouch excuse me. Well another connection between you guys, Jim, 382 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.400 you play Winnie the Pooh of course, yes, who carries a red balloon 383 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:51.920 a lot? You know, right, and that's true. You were in 384 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.519 something with a red balloon. I'm not yes, you know, I'm not 385 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.680 gonna go too deep into that, but you know, there's a little red 386 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.440 blue connection there, right, that could be red. Yeah, you like, 387 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.559 what do you what do you think about red balloons? I say, 388 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:15.400 the more red balloons, please, That's what I say. And then every 389 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.039 now and then the blue just to break it up, just bring it up. 390 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.279 Oh man, did you go to the State Fair as a kid? 391 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.599 Yes? Yeah, well I went to the where'd you grow up, by 392 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:30.279 the way, Youngstown, Ohio. It's a great place to be from. 393 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.119 Yeah, I mean, but in order to be from there, you have 394 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:40.039 to leave. Sorry, anyway, You're great place to bring it up, 395 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.079 how about you. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm from San Monica area. 396 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.759 And that explains the skateboard thing. That explains the pretend and the guitar and 397 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.480 the guitar. I want the guitar to be more of a Nashville extension of 398 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.519 me. But I started, you know, where I started playing director was 399 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.400 in Atlanta. But there's something that I mean, I don't know, man, 400 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.359 I never there was something about the South before I moved there that I 401 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:07.319 was like, I don't know, I really don't know if I could do 402 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.640 it. I love the we I love the water and the and the the 403 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:18.279 ocean and the mountains and all that stuff very much in California. Geographically, 404 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.160 it's an incredible place. But then I was in Atlanta and I felt like, 405 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:25.559 oh my goodness. I was working there and I felt so I don't 406 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.000 know, I just like it's something soulful or something about the people and the 407 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.160 kindness and there's I don't know, And yeah, yeah, I felt that 408 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.079 way about New Orleans. Yes, I moved there, right. I got 409 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.119 out of high school and I moved to New Orleans. Great, and it 410 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.880 was I just loved it. I told my parents I was going to go 411 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:47.440 down and I went to Marty Grass with the buddy of mine from he'd gotten 412 00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:49.680 out of the army and he was a little older than me. And I 413 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.920 said, well, I'm just going to go to Marty Grass. And then 414 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.000 Marty Graus was over, and I called my parents, so, okay, 415 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:57.640 Marty Gras is over, and I go, you know, I'm just gonna 416 00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:00.640 stick around. Anyway. I lived there for like ten years, and then, 417 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:04.720 you know, I just never went back, you know, to Youngstown. 418 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.880 And I moved from there New Orleans to California. And here we are. 419 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:15.920 How's your Creole Cajun accent? He's not too bad. Well, I 420 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.480 had a few though, Yeah, what's that, it's a few different Yeah, 421 00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.240 oh god, yeah, Well I don't want to bore anybody with the 422 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.319 story he's heard. But uh, you know, I was one of the 423 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:30.599 first cartoons I ever did was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and I was a 424 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.839 bad guy named Leatherhead. I was a leather alligator who got mutated the way 425 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.559 the turtles did yank and uh. And he was a Cajun alligator. And 426 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:47.599 so I just used the the tugboat captain from my very first river run, 427 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.599 you know, I was on the old Dutch was the name of the boat. 428 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.119 And his name was Leon's le Blon and he goes from my day then 429 00:27:55.240 --> 00:28:00.480 Napoleonville, Louisiana, and that's how he talked, and so and I said, 430 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.599 jeezus, okay, dude, your leatherhead. Yeah, and I could 431 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.559 I always I wondered, if you know, because it was like a couple 432 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.960 of years later. It wasn't that long that, you know, I was 433 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.880 from being a deckhand to being a cartoon guy. Uh. And I wondered 434 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.279 if his grandkids are sitting around going, hey, Grandpa, come on in 435 00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.400 here. You know this this alligator right here. You know that because it 436 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:26.960 will just Hi, I stole his voice, and so I think, and 437 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.480 that's one of my philosophies. I don't know if you care about it. 438 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:36.119 Use this in your angle, but if you do a perfect compression of somebody 439 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:38.440 that nobody knows, it's a new character, definitely, so you steal it. 440 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:42.480 How don't you recycle voices for brother? You know, you have to 441 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.920 have a certain amount of credits in between those two projects where you can do 442 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.359 that for years or something. Oh oh, you mean like recycle the character 443 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.519 the voice. Yes, well, I've never used him for anybody else. 444 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:56.279 I mean, thank god he does not do books on tape. It was 445 00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.640 the best of times. It wasn't the worst of time. You don't want 446 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.039 to hear, don't want to know, you don't want to hear that guy. 447 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.079 Yeah, well you like Xataca music and Doctor John and whatnot. Yeah, 448 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:07.720 it was a lot of fun. Oh yeah, well, you know, 449 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:15.559 I used to live a stone's throw and I mean, like not not 450 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:21.880 even a frisbee throw from the racetrack, which is where New Orleans Jazz Fest. 451 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:23.680 That was the first music, live music I've ever seen in my life. 452 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.519 Oh yeah, four years old. Yeah, jazz Fest, jazz Fest. 453 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.720 Wow, And I like apparently had this spastic attack, but I was 454 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.319 like four years old. I took my shirt off and I was like, 455 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:34.759 Mama, this is the most amazing thing ever. And I just started shaking 456 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:40.039 about and she's like, wow, you were right, you were right. 457 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:44.279 Yeah, oh god. Yeah. Well New Orleans, you know there's music 458 00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.319 seeping up from the crack so much soul. Yeah, and I would think 459 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.720 Nashville's got that same groove. Definitely, Yeah, yes, definitely, definitely. 460 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.599 So maybe it's a little different, maybe it's a little more contained in 461 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:02.359 question. Yeah, but that's a pretty hip I don't know, like it's 462 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.920 a it's a melting pot. I think a lot of different cool idea uh 463 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.279 uh, creative things, I don't. I think a lot of people are 464 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.359 doing lots of cool stuff, and lots of people leaving Hollywood also and going 465 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.319 and making like building sound stages and whatnot, and yeah, a lot of 466 00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.440 cool stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, Well it's a good place to 467 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.160 be from, yes, if you leave. Yeah, I'm not from there. 468 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:27.960 It'd be a lot cooler if I was, though it would be a 469 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.720 little more exotic. I don't know. Being from Los Angeles and then being 470 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:37.400 an actor is so predictable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same 471 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.400 with me in Youngstown's so predictable. That's predictable. Yeah, that's working in 472 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.680 a steel mill. Wow. I can't recommend it, but somebody's got to 473 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.240 do it. I did. Wow. Oh yeah. Do you forget any 474 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.400 injuries on your paws or anything? Uh something like that? Yeah, I 475 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.759 got to burn here. Once it's gone. Now it's cleared up. Oh 476 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.160 no, there it is. Anyway, Well, this is riveting footage mutage. 477 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.759 Yeah, I don't know. You worked in the steel mill? Yeah 478 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:03.920 for six months? Okay. It was a pin of ass. But I'm 479 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.880 glad somebody does it. That's not a job for a fpian. Yeah. 480 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.759 No, No, I was acting like I knew what I was doing. 481 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.519 That's cool though, Yeah, of course, and I did. I was 482 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.519 truly acting at that point, I'll tell you. Yeah. Oh god. 483 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.200 Anyway, we were talking about impressions, Jack, Do you do you do 484 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.799 any impressions? Do you have a favorite one? You do? I don't 485 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.200 know, know, I can't think of a single one right now. Definitely 486 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.839 it'd be so I'm doing you really well? I know. That's probably that's 487 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.559 one of the harder ones. But whatever, I do it all the time, 488 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.240 so I have a lot of practice. That's a cool, actually cool 489 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.519 idea. Actually, you know, I read this book I used to there 490 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:45.680 was a time in my life when I felt not to change the subject, 491 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.759 but I gave me an idea. There's time in my life when I was 492 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:49.640 like, oh man, I think I might have been fifteen or sixteen, 493 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:57.079 and I was like, okay, which one's the real me? Like I 494 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:02.960 I know that I'm like a caredic, extroverted maybe dude sometimes but sometimes I'm 495 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.119 not And sometimes I want to be quiet and sometimes is that does that mean 496 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:08.759 I'm sad? Does that mean I'm lost? Is that? Does that mean 497 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:13.000 that's okay? Because if you're lost or more vulnerable to being found, what's 498 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.240 going on? And then I read this book called We or No Sorry, 499 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:22.960 called Us by Carl Jung, and he talked about masks and what's it called? 500 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.519 So we all have them, and we all have we all wear masks, 501 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.599 and they're all extensions of ourselves and there or or like. But then 502 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.599 there's also those people that you can find in your life where you can be 503 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:37.519 completely maskless around and you can feel okay in that space and you're not being 504 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.319 fake or you're not being right to yourself or any airs. Yeah. But 505 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.480 even if you're wearing one of your masks, like if you're going to, 506 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.400 like say, the party that we went to last night, I probably wouldn't 507 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.559 interact with a lot of the people that were there the same way that I 508 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.200 would interact with a buddy I've had for ten or twelve years. You know 509 00:32:52.960 --> 00:33:00.480 that. Well, yeah, yeah, I amended that. No, that's 510 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.559 so true. The trip, but that's that's that's life. Yeah, yeah, 511 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.559 I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I've heard of it. Yeah, I'm 512 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:15.880 getting into it. I'm really into this life thing now. Yeah, so 513 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:19.720 very cool man. Yeah, what what is the very next thing? For 514 00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.880 you? Are you? Are you conning every weekend? I think I asked 515 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.519 you. I'm conspiring every weekend, That's what Conning says, right, Conning, 516 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:34.799 Yeah, I'm conspiring. I'm going to Manchester at some point. You 517 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.839 Wow, No, I don't think so. I'm going there for a con 518 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.880 and then I got to go to Paris for something else. But that doesn't 519 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:47.759 that's that sounds terrible, I know for you, I know, I never 520 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.680 heard anything I want. I don't want to go to Paris. I wanted 521 00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:57.599 to go to Milan. No, I guess I got a movie coming out 522 00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.960 which I kind of like this one. Actually, it's just a movie called 523 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:06.519 Downtown Owls, based on a book Owl Owl and it's cool. It's it's 524 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.559 founded in Minnesota, from the Minneapolis I don't know if you know who Hamish 525 00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:14.280 link Later is. He's an incredible, freaking genius actor. It was kind 526 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.239 of under the radar. And he's a comedian. He's just such a smart 527 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.599 such a smart dude, and he writes an incredible theater and we talked Shakespeare 528 00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.400 like total nerds all the time. And he's just a really cool guy. 529 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.960 Oh that's great, Yeah, super great. And that's a cool movie that 530 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.880 should be that's coming out. I guess when's that coming. I think December, 531 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.440 early December, December, coming to a theater near you. Yeah, 532 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.760 ladies and gentleman, were you that guy? Do you know the guy? 533 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.360 You know that the in a world guy? What's his name? Oh? 534 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:47.400 Well, yeah, Don la Fontaine in the World. Yeah, yeah, 535 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.480 he was a good guy. My mom used to like I slirt with him 536 00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.519 or something. Oh yeah, on the rocks in Hollywood or whatever. There 537 00:34:53.559 --> 00:35:00.239 you go, wow, in the world so great they never made Yeah, 538 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:02.360 yeah, I was one of those guys. But plus I think I have 539 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.440 a sore throat from touretting at these cons. You know, you just you're 540 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.400 yelling, you're doing this and that, you know which, I have to 541 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.159 stop doing that. I have to preserve my instrument. Of course it is, 542 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.880 yes, it is. It's your livelihood. Yeah, why did you 543 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.880 develop that deep, that deep rugged rasp. You don't smoke cigarettes? No, 544 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.639 no, no, no, no, I never smoked cigarettes. I 545 00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:29.519 think my voice is just right smack in the middle. It's not very high 546 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.199 and it's not very low. So to go a little higher, to go 547 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.639 a little lower, isn't that big of a trip. That's a blessing. 548 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.639 Yeah, I think so that's a great gift you guys. Yeah yeah, 549 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.960 knock on wood. But it didn't work out because I really wanted to be 550 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:46.559 a mime. So I'm a huge failure. So that show you might have 551 00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:52.239 made that up. I wanted to be a rodeo clown. Oh oh downgraded 552 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.800 Yeah yeah, for like ten minutes. Then you tried it once in the 553 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.239 bull you said, no, Yeah, that's where I found it. That's 554 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:00.199 where I was like, oh my god, if I could do this for 555 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.440 the rest of my life. Yeah, and that became an actor, which 556 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:12.079 when the rest of your life said, one of those damn things hits you. 557 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.440 So you're after the con for the for the day. I'm after the 558 00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.320 con for the day. I'm very excited, very excited for these days. 559 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.519 I have a lot of fun. And we're here in beautiful Salt Lake City. 560 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.320 You've been st City before? Yeah, I've never been my first time 561 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.679 in Utah. Yeah. Oh yeah, Wow? Did you have us a 562 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:37.800 Mormon? Uh? No, you neither. I'm a Cathololic. Catholic. 563 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:43.920 Sorry, yeah, I'm a I don't know. I'm a man of the 564 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:47.519 world. I'm a man of the world, deeply spiritual past regression and the 565 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:53.639 sensor deprivation tanks and healing crystals, healing crystals, manifestations and yes, I 566 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:59.199 have me and Hubbard or good friends. You say your intentions every morning every 567 00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.639 Yeah, no, I should start doing that. I said prayers. I 568 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.280 say like a morning prayer. I said before I eat, before good bed. 569 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.079 That's funny because I prayed before you eat too. Oh good? Yeah, 570 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:13.039 why do I feel like praying real? He's obviously getting red eat. 571 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.320 It just comes over. Is it just making that special? No? No, 572 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.039 just you. Wow, that's really nice and Landy Kravitz. Oh good, 573 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.159 I'm so glad to be involved in that. I don't have any idea 574 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.320 why I said that. That's a good name though, to pull out of. 575 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:35.800 Yeah, who's your it's crowded in that wazoo. Who's your favorite or 576 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.079 like most inspiring person that you've ever worked with? Hmm, that's a good 577 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.599 one, and go first. I bet you have got a better repertoire than 578 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.000 me. I bet I wonder here, but you got a better repertoire than 579 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.639 me. No, no, no, no, no, no you you 580 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.559 you you know. It was great, Actually was super inspired. John Letched 581 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.559 was a good one. Yeah, black guy's really it was really cool. 582 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.480 You just had a lot of really cool with you and the guy on the 583 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.039 show Night Court. And also he was had a succeed in business who was 584 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:07.159 he? And had a succeed in business with the trying he was the what's 585 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.119 his name, the big the big stripes stripes he was in stripes too, 586 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:17.039 stripes also yeah, but yeah, yeah he's a good guy. He's from 587 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:22.559 New Orleans, yes he is, speaking of and he smoked picky youn cigarettes, 588 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:28.000 which are like cancer on a stick on a They're just the big, 589 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:32.960 fat all tobacco. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never smoked by you. 590 00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:39.239 What was it about him then? Inspired you? I'm a huge like 591 00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.840 he he spoke a lot about I've always been a I don't know if you're 592 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.880 familiar with Babylon, the kind of anger book and that whole world. I'm 593 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.320 obsessed with that stuff like that's oh my gosh, I love it. Anyway, 594 00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:52.880 he was talking to me about He told me some stories. He told 595 00:38:52.920 --> 00:39:00.639 me a story about what's his name, who's the DP for freaking anymore? 596 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:06.079 Acona all the time? Come on, oh, Dante Spinote. Dante Spinote 597 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.239 here from Italy and he tells me these incredible stories, like he got this 598 00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:16.519 agent. That's some that's a big thing. This is when the gramins of 599 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.519 the TC Chinese Theater used to be, Uh, we have the big elephants, 600 00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.280 the big ivory elephants. Do you know that they shipped them from freaking 601 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:30.199 India. This was like Hollywood used. Yes, yes, freaking Hollywood Land. 602 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.599 I love that stuff too. Yeah, it was a whole something. 603 00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.840 Texture, the texture, Yeah, the tambra. I love anyway, this 604 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:44.480 is amazing story. So he gets his agent, and the agent gives him 605 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.599 a call across the seas or whatever, or sends him a letter or something 606 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.920 and says, when you get here, you will arrive to find that the 607 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.960 streets are paved with gold and and your name will be written on all the 608 00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:58.719 big YadA yadas and whatever. And so he's like, wow, my god, 609 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.400 I guess I got a lot of great and waiting for me in Sunday, 610 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.880 California, sunny Los Angeles, Hollywood. And he gets there, and 611 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.079 not too long after arriving, he realizes that he's the streets aren't paid with 612 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.599 gold, but he's gonna have to be the one to pave them. And 613 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:14.519 John Leck can tell me this story or that it was his job to be 614 00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.519 the one to pave them with gold and that and that just felt so delicious 615 00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.960 in it, and it added like that they kind of that like I love, 616 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:23.920 I love there's so much about movies and things that I love. But 617 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.840 I mean, I love the acting part. I love. I mean, 618 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.800 I love self expressing and telling stories. But also there's this this thing about 619 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.599 like when I was a kid, I remember watching movies get honored at the 620 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.480 Oscars in such a way that I don't know if if it feels the same 621 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:39.599 way anymore, to be honest with you at all, but there was like 622 00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.400 such a steem in regard. It was like so velvety and decadent and it's 623 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:52.079 red satin, and I was just like, that's a beautiful whirld, Like 624 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.920 wow, yeah, and they're n'ting something really meaningful, something that is like 625 00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.599 making movies. And then I watched the movie Babylon and there was this bit 626 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.639 in that movie when Brad Pitt's but he's super drunk, remember that bit when 627 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:06.800 he's about kiss the s girl and they can't get him up the hill and 628 00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:13.599 spiked Joe just playing maxiwon Stronheim and or Max uh what's his name? Yes, 629 00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:19.760 thank you, Austrian guy. And there's this bit when everybody's panicking and 630 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.320 then everybody's been and the freaking there's filming out in the middle of the desert 631 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:23.840 and you know, it's nineteen twenty seven or whatever, and they're filming three 632 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:27.039 hundred movies at the same time on the same day in the same place. 633 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.280 Because there's no sound, they can do it anyway. They're losing light and 634 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.800 he says his line, and he and he kisses the girl, and then 635 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.480 a butterfly comes and lands on his shoulder. Man, I mean, there's 636 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.920 something that I think is super cosmic. I'm going on a tangent now, 637 00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.039 I guess, but there's something that something that happens I think in the unifor 638 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.360 I don't know. Maybe it's God. I've found it to be. I 639 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:53.119 guess. We're like when there's all these like minded individuals collaborating or creating together 640 00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.280 in the same place, it's almost like when you have a deja vu and 641 00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.679 it's like, Okay, right place, right time, Wow, should be 642 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.320 here, you know. Yeah, something think like miracles happen, Like these 643 00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:09.519 these unbelievable, like extraordinary things happen when all these people are doing what they're 644 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.079 meant to be doing in the same place, trying to bring their dreams into 645 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.280 the fabrica of reality and tell these stories and bring color to the it's just 646 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:22.679 even there's so much co light. That's true. I know exactly what you're 647 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.159 talking. Remarkable, remarkable thing. What's that butterfly doing in here? Get 648 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:32.159 out of anyway? Yeah, that's great, Get out of here, scramki 649 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:37.639 b oh, we got rid of that. Yeah, when we were just 650 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.440 talking about something similar to that just the other day. You know, like 651 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.440 when you bump into somebody that you know and you're like across the world. 652 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:47.559 You know. We were just in Italy and we were walking down the street 653 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.159 and I literally bumped into my scene partner from Vancouver. Wow. You know, 654 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.960 we're on complete opposite side of the world and like literally into each other, 655 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.199 and we were like, what what do you do? Could that be? 656 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.280 Yeah? Exactly, you know, like to your point, like I 657 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.400 really do believe, like there's this there's this energy, this frequency god yeah, 658 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:13.719 wah, whatever it is, you know that we don't really like fully 659 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.880 understand, but it's like there, it's the presence. We can feel it, 660 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.280 you know. And like I love seeing your passion. You know, 661 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.599 you're so passionate about this, and I think that's what really fuels this industry, 662 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.800 you know, is passionate people like both of you, and it's it's 663 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.679 awesome to see and like, yeah, I really agree, like right place 664 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.800 at the right times. Like yeah, it's really funny though, man, 665 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.320 I've become so dulled. I don't know adults the right word, but like 666 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:43.920 used to serendipities and mind blowing synchronicities. For some reason, they just happen 667 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:45.000 all the time, like that's life, you know something. It's like, 668 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.480 oh my god, this is this a coincidence? Or are they like God's 669 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.639 plan? What is this? This person called me. I was just talking 670 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.320 about them. Then I saw them driving in the car the red light. 671 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.719 What the heck is going on? Yeah? Well what's that? Luck is 672 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:01.480 being prepared or good fortune is being prepared when when opportunity knocks. Yeah, 673 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.000 you know, you got you got to answer that door, you know, 674 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.800 accept it. Yeah. Always, that's brilliant, That's exactly right. Yeah, 675 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:13.719 tune in that frequency. Excuse me, because you know we've all had 676 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.239 those things, you know where if like you know, when you're getting ready 677 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.519 to go and you're getting ready to board the Titanic and you'd missed the gang 678 00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.239 plank, missed it by that much, it's it's okay. You know, 679 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:29.880 those little things happen and it's going to be fine, especially if you were 680 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:31.239 going to on the Titanic. Oh yeah, that would have sucked. So 681 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.400 I mean, not necessarily the movie, because I understand it did well. 682 00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:40.760 Actually anyway, Yeah, my favorite good stuff I wish I got on No 683 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.679 Zark. Yeah, no, uh Zark, he's a good guy. Yeah, 684 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.599 yes, And then then you you're pulling out a port and you're looking 685 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:54.039 and the unicorns are standing there going oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they 686 00:44:54.079 --> 00:45:00.960 didn't make it on poor guys. Well, should we show the guitar some 687 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.679 love? Yeah? What do you think, Jim? I'm gonna let you 688 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.039 say, what kind of genre do you want to say? You were saying 689 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:13.079 a bluesy kind of blue. My pipes are rusty. Same and also, 690 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.639 my brain feels really dumb today. I can't even come up with a better 691 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:24.199 word than dumb. You don't try this at home. Actually, go ahead. 692 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.719 Tasty, that's a good one. I like that riff. What is 693 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:52.719 beautiful? One of my favorite chords ever. Hold on, this is a 694 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.239 you pay music you play. Last one was beautiful. This is an E 695 00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:04.480 minor seven AD four. I love that court so much. That is beautiful 696 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:20.159 And this one, you know this, you know this little ref like whatever, 697 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.039 that's tasty. I don't think so that, you know Al Stewart Oh 698 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.679 yeah, Cat, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, brand and yeah rather 699 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:38.480 cat yeah yeah, it was such a god. That's that's an old what's 700 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:52.440 the kind of to describe Al Stewart asshole. Uh dipstick yahoo, you know 701 00:46:52.320 --> 00:47:04.760 I have no idea. Yeah, well we're heading to the con later on. 702 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:12.559 Come on by, bring lots of money. We'll pile it up to 703 00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:22.679 the sky. Maybe that's my bargain base with Johnny Cash. Yeah yeah, 704 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:27.320 ladies and gentlemen. Well you need to do one more. Do something about 705 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:37.039 tuned in. This could be our Oh yeah that's true. Huh oh bell 706 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:45.880 tones ye oh, baby tasty. You're a great guitar player. Man, 707 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.840 that's awesome. I mean yeah, but you got them pretty chords. I 708 00:47:51.119 --> 00:48:17.000 love pretty chords. Oh, stay, tune tune on and that is so 709 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.880 good. I tried doing that and I can't even no, I can't not 710 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.719 at all. No, Please, I would. I would grab drumsticks if 711 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.079 you handed me that, and then it would. I'm not very good at 712 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.400 drums. I don't want drums for a movie. Actually, yeah, for 713 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:35.119 that one, I was, of course you are, but I'm not good. 714 00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.239 I could play stuff in four four five yeah, five four, that's 715 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.480 throw me a crazy time signature and I won't know what over eleven? Please? 716 00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.800 Yeah? What yeah? Yeah, exactly to reacheat music? Uh not 717 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.559 anymore? You ever heard about the Black Page, the Frank Zappa. Oh, 718 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.199 I don't know, but I like Frank Zappa. Love Frank so much. 719 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.519 Man, me too. I'm a little pimp with my head, guys. 720 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:06.840 I love paying me my shoeshine black gotta little lady walk down street telling 721 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:15.639 all the boy that she gave me be oh mans, I can't believe you 722 00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:23.519 know that. I love that. Yeah, and supposedly he had like a 723 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:30.199 three octave range, and I was thinking, no, youdn't even range? 724 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.480 No, yeah, yeah range him half hot, yeah, exactly him and 725 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:38.559 Tom Waits love Yeah, Tom Waits for no one. I love him. 726 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:46.480 Yeah, this is we took a real turn here. That's crazy. That's 727 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:59.320 good stuff though. Yeah. Yeah, and stay tuned in. Spell it 728 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:06.280 with two oh's not a U n E. Stay tuned in with us, 729 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:15.280 tuned in with Jim comings in Chris sometimes sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, 730 00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:21.920 that's awesome, man, thanks for coming out today. I really appreciate 731 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.440 it. It's a blessing, truly. Honestly, this is a gas and 732 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:28.760 now we're late for the calm. We have to go. Okay, okay, yeah,