WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:57.880 The following presentation is in Del Marta Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from 2 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:02.799 around the world. It's time for an another edition of the Flat Earth Files. 3 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.239 We're recording on this May eleventh, twenty twenty three, on the cusp 4 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.920 of Mother's Day weekend. And with that being said, I hope all the 5 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:14.560 mothers out there have a tremendous weekend and are able to spend some time with 6 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.799 your family. We have a great guest standing by, Daniel Is joining us 7 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:23.280 from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, right after we do a few housekeeping notes 8 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.519 here. Of course, the website is the flat earth files dot com. 9 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:32.000 Again, it's the flat earth files dot com. Check out the chat room 10 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.280 and jump in the forum, post your questions there. It's it's a very 11 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.519 very active site. You can also leave a message on our speak pipe. 12 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.359 I'm going to try to get that bumped up to more than thirty seconds, 13 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.079 because I know that a few of you out there have left messages within the 14 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:49.079 last two weeks and kind of got cut off. So I'll try to get 15 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.840 that fixed and I'll certainly let you know when that's been extended. And then, 16 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.200 of course, if you'd like to come on the program like Daniel has 17 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.400 this evening, it is the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. Again, 18 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:04.200 it's the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. All right, all 19 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:07.560 that is out of the way. Let's kick it off with tonight's episode and 20 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.879 joining us again from Calgary, Alberta, Canada, is Daniel a good evening, 21 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:21.000 sir? How are you are you there? Yeah? There you go? 22 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.840 Perfect? All right, Well, welcome aboard. Just can't hear you 23 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:29.400 as well as I was hoping. But yeah. So my name is Daniel 24 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:35.039 Sydenham and I've grown up in Calgary pretty much my whole life and haven't moved, 25 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:39.400 but I've I've traveled a bit, and when I was young, I 26 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:46.039 really questioned a lot of these surroundings around me and was never really one for 27 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:53.039 schooling. Really questioned a lot about the natural world and didn't think that school 28 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:59.960 provided really a lot of the answers, very generic type of answers and rapid 29 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:07.000 petitian is what it felt like. As I got older, I got into 30 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:13.120 high school, started meeting a lot of new influences, and social studies was 31 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:17.960 something that I heavily gravitated to, and once I met a specific teacher, 32 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:23.039 he kind of entered me into this type of thinking of just questioning the world 33 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:29.360 around you a bit more, and he kind of elevated my own thinking and 34 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:36.520 inspired me a lot after high school, including and it was kind of a 35 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:40.360 journey that left left me with a lot of questions right after high school and 36 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.759 kind of entered the realm of conspiracy theories I was. I was very young 37 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.000 when nine to eleven happened, and that always kind of didn't sit well with 38 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:55.039 me either, and kind of reached down a lot of the grabbit hole as 39 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:02.360 I got older and eventually eventually led to the flat Earth. And by the 40 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:06.919 time I really dove into it, I kind of went in with the same 41 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:12.360 idea as David Weiss, where he kind of wanted to disprove it. I 42 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.879 was very much on the same boat where I didn't. I didn't really think 43 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.199 it was a smart idea to be thinking that the Earth was flat, And 44 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.879 as I got pretty deep into it, I went into it with more of 45 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:32.199 a biblical sense, more of a scientific sense, and kind of found a 46 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.639 lot of the answers to some of the questions. And the more that I 47 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:42.959 dove deeper into the Bible and how the Bible relates a lot of this. 48 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.759 It's kind of helped me to become almost upborn again, born first time Christian. 49 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:53.800 And you know, I've had a lot of ups and downs, but 50 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:58.639 now that I see and have the light of God guiding me, it's it's 51 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.519 really affected me and true change my life personally. And there was one guest 52 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:09.439 that simply stated it exactly like that, this is personal and this lie that 53 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:14.879 we've been told is it's worldwide. It's just astonishing and it blows my mind. 54 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:21.360 There's a lot that kind of influenced me into this thinking as I was 55 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:28.759 heavy into World War two history and the conspiracy side of the Nazis, and 56 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:33.600 when you start going through that rabbit hole of project or sorry Paperclip and Werner 57 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:42.240 von Braun, the esoteric and the occult surroundings around NASA, it kind of 58 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.920 starts to quickly fall in line and it gives you a smidgeon of the truth 59 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:54.360 of what this might possibly act, actually be. And yeah, it's been 60 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.199 kind of something that I've been reaching out to to a lot of people. 61 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.600 It is very, very, very difficult, as I've heard from many people 62 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:06.959 on your show. It's it's something that you can't push onto people. And 63 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.959 if they're seeking some sort of truth on this journey like I am. Then 64 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.959 there's a conversation to be had, and I've learned very very very often with 65 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:21.319 a lot of loved ones, it's not something that you can bring up and 66 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:29.639 you become very self censored and it influences a lot of your thinking daily when 67 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:34.399 you do realize that this really is what I believe to be what the Bible 68 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:43.279 describes. Yeah, if do you have any questions? Yeah? Absolutely, 69 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.759 First and foremost, are you still in touch with that teacher who who who 70 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:57.800 got you to question everything? Yeah? So I reached out to him, 71 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.480 and I think as time kind of went by, he might have not remembered 72 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.879 my name or just a general impact that he might have made. So I've 73 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:10.680 reached out a couple of times and sent times some leaks links on some of 74 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:15.000 the information that I've found that I think might be interesting to him, and 75 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.160 we kind of tried to keep a distant communication. He's a family man and 76 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:23.759 he's still working as a as a school teacher, so sometimes it can be 77 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.560 hard, which is understandable. Yeah. Absolutely. I guess he's been doing 78 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.120 it at a while because you've been out of school for I guess fourteen years 79 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.319 or so. Yeah, Yeah, it's been quite some time. What was 80 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.839 the first real rabbit hole that got your attention and really got you to start 81 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:46.199 to question your history books. That's a great one when it came to the 82 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:53.319 history of World Wars. That's what kind of influenced me right from the bat. 83 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:00.000 There was a lot of skepticism and speculation in my family that we might 84 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:07.399 be related to Rudolph hess and it kind of The first book that I bought 85 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:13.120 regarding the situation or sorry, regarding the topic was Jim Ars Rule by Secrecy. 86 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:20.199 It what a great author and amazing, amazing, and it really highlighted 87 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:26.480 a lot of the unknown history of the World Wars and the interconnectedness between a 88 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:33.399 lot of corporation, sorry, corporations, and military pharmaceuticals. What we think 89 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:39.840 is connected now is probably behind closed doors, something similar to what they had 90 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:46.559 in the nineteen forties. And another one that I started reading of his was 91 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:52.639 Rise or the Fourth Rich So it kind of h led me down this rabbit 92 00:08:52.679 --> 00:09:01.000 hole of understanding more of this interconnectedness between government and it into my ongoing skepticism 93 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:07.320 and questioning of the government. Regardless, I was never a huge fan of 94 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:13.960 authority since I was younger, and I guess maybe that animosity towards authority kind 95 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.759 of fueled some of the seeking of truth. Yeah, you know, now 96 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.440 that you mentioned that in retrospect, I think a lot of people, and 97 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.720 including myself, we don't follow the narrative. You know, there's those famous 98 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:31.559 Nimes with the you know, the highway and then the off ramp, and 99 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.480 you know, so many people choose to go down just to stay on the 100 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:37.159 highway to to you know, stay with the narrative and not to question it. 101 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.200 You know, I remember being a young man in school a lot of 102 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.679 times you didn't want to raise your hand because you felt like you were being 103 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.080 stupid if you were asking questions. That's just one of those things as a 104 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:52.679 child. But you know, you're right, m Questioning authority and just not 105 00:09:52.799 --> 00:10:00.799 accepting things at wholesale without researching it is really a dying life skill, and 106 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.440 a lot of it goes back. A lot of it goes back to again 107 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:09.320 the education system that we have in place right now, which is again I 108 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:13.360 don't mean to beat a dead horse, but to memorize and regurgitate instead of 109 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.000 saying, here's a problem, figure it out. And write it out instead 110 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.919 of just multiple choice and things like that. That has made us, you 111 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:26.159 know, lazy. Critical thinking is a dying, dying thing. It is 112 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.840 unfortunate. Um yeah, I think like many of your own guests that you've 113 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:35.600 had on previously, I found myself being similar to what they call a black 114 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:39.080 sheep in the family, where you know you're the only one that does think 115 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.639 like this and you have questions that maybe your your family members don't ever ponder. 116 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:50.039 And yeah, it's it's I'm lucky to have the friends that I have 117 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:56.600 and they've kind of been able to see the world and question it with me. 118 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:03.519 And it's a blessing because school, i think, is when you really 119 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.200 dig deep intoto it, you really find out what it really whatever really means. 120 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:13.200 It's an indoctrination camp. And I know members of that that you've had 121 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.000 on previously have mentioned the same thing. It's it's a deep rabbit hole when 122 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:22.919 you really when you really go to examine it. Indeed, and before we 123 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:26.000 get too far, I should mention I've actually had I do a classic audio 124 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:31.200 series once a week on my other podcast, and I'll drop some old audios, 125 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.399 a lot of Bill Cooper stuff. But I've I've done quite a few 126 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.879 episodes of Jim Mars. I highly recommend the book you mentioned, The Rise 127 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.879 of the Fork Rice, I'm sorry, the Rise of the Fourth Reich. 128 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.960 In the late eighties, he came out with Crossfire, which is a tremendous 129 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.480 book about the assassination of JFK. But interesting enough, the book that came 130 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:56.080 out right about the same time he died was The Illuminati, which literally came 131 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.840 out the year he died. So for folks looking for some eating materials, 132 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:05.440 please I urge you seek him out. He's a tremendous writer. Um. 133 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.200 You had mentioned before we kicked off the show that you had actually reached out 134 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:15.320 to some of the previous guests and that that is really m That makes me 135 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:20.039 real happy that the community has actually come together people go to that show description 136 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.159 and actually take the time to email folks. What has that interaction been like 137 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.519 for you. Well, I gotta start off by saying, I can't thank 138 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.000 you enough for the community that you've been able to help create. It's amazing. 139 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.639 I've reached out to a couple of past guests. Sarah was one of 140 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:45.080 them, or sorry, Megan, and you know she helped with just a 141 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.720 lot of the mental stresses that you go through when when you do just start 142 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.000 to discover this, and you know, you look out at the at the 143 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.120 real world when you're doing things like driving and listening to your podcast, and 144 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.080 it really does hit home what this really means, and it can be overwhelming 145 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.080 for a lot of people. And to hear what she had gone through, 146 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:11.200 because I remember she referenced how it funked throughout for months, and that's kind 147 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.679 of where I felt was, you know, I need to reach out to 148 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:20.159 someone who is a part of this community that I adore so much and seek 149 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.399 advice and seek some strength. And she was very willing and open with the 150 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.399 conversation, and she was just as pleased as you are, because again, 151 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.720 it means so much for a lot of people just to have someone that is 152 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.679 on the same level of thinking as them, but also you know they've questioned 153 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:43.320 that same thought where it's am I fucking going crazy? And they're there to 154 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.519 also say, hey, no, I've had these same same thoughts too, 155 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.159 and I'm here for any type of support, and she really was. She 156 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.279 was very supportive. So I can't thank her enough. It's been wonderful. 157 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.679 Like I said, you're the community that you've been able to create. It's 158 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:03.840 very supportive and loving. That's awesome, And I think there's a lot of 159 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.080 people out there who can resonate with your message because I get those kind of 160 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.759 emails all the time. We in a way, I guess, the further 161 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:16.080 down the rabbit hole you get on some of these things, the further away 162 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.320 you get from you know, I hate to use the term, but to 163 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.840 you know, they call them the normies, right, And it is like 164 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:28.000 today, I had a lunch with a friend and a family member and they 165 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.600 were talking about random things, and I so much just wanted to start talking 166 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:35.519 about different things, you know, flat Earth and other type of things. 167 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:39.559 But if if I even try, I know that the audience I had, 168 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:41.679 And that's the other thing. I got to kind of read your audience, 169 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.480 and I guess pick and choose when the opportune time was. But you can 170 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:52.919 just feel that it would just it's I don't think people understand the importance of 171 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:58.000 and I guess that's what trying to word it without sounding because I don't like 172 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.960 to sound like we have the special knowledge because I don't mean it like that. 173 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:07.399 But I just don't think that people really understand the importance of and the 174 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:13.240 levity of the truth and how big the lie is. And I didn't and 175 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.960 again until I finally put my guard down, and like you, I went 176 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.720 into just disprove the silly flat earth thing. Once you realize the magnitude of 177 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:28.039 the lie and the importance of it, how evil it is, you really 178 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:35.559 it hits go ahead, It really does hit home, and it's it's like 179 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:43.000 a previous guy said, it feels personal, and you know, it's it's 180 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.759 something that is unfortunate. You know. I've taken in almost a disliking now 181 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:52.480 to some of the things I used to love, like sports, because I 182 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.279 don't see I see this veil. It's that partial veil that's been lifted for 183 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.559 us. I think where it's similar to what Manly P. Hall said, 184 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:04.600 Yes, the veil of lifting will once you realize the symbols, the veil 185 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:12.240 will be lifted for humanity. And I think the world is made as a 186 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:18.320 business very similar to what is mentioned on the network, and people I think 187 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:23.919 are scared perhaps to realize this truth and realize that there might be some sort 188 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:29.000 of judgment for them and their life. And you know, I think one 189 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.399 of the biggest things is I think people might think that they wasted their life 190 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:37.399 not knowing this, and I think it is that depressive state where people are 191 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:42.320 happy with their reality and they don't want it to change. But it's it's 192 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:48.440 like many believe it's similar to the matrix, and they've created this illusionary world 193 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:56.440 for us where Lucifer runs the show. And when you start diving into that 194 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:02.000 sort of conspiracy side, it gets dark. But it's it's good understanding to 195 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.359 really understand that this is a spiritual war and people it is hard for them 196 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.680 to want to think of religion as something that might actually be real or something 197 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:18.079 that might have actually happened in the past. And we've contrived a world where 198 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:26.599 materialism runs the show and it dominates unfortunately, and again they use the media, 199 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.720 they use Hollywood to reinforce these things. All all these ads are based 200 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:33.920 on materialism. Even back to the eighties when I was in high school. 201 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.160 I mean, Madonna was a material girl and she lived in material world. 202 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:42.359 These things are reinforced through music, through Hollywood, and through the media, 203 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:48.839 and it's it's it's like you mentioned you got to know your audience, and 204 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:53.200 I've understood that you know you can't be that guy just on the street corner 205 00:17:53.680 --> 00:18:00.599 with signed saying you've been lied to, because yeah, there's no justice unfortunately. 206 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.799 I think the easiest thing is, you know, I've gotten a lot 207 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.000 of ice from you just listening to your show over the last little while, 208 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.680 and I think one of the easiest things is to just plant a small seed 209 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:21.480 and offer that word of wisdom where it's listened to everyone, and then come 210 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:26.759 to your own conclusion after. And you know, you know as well as 211 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.440 I do that you really can't push this on people. It's something I think 212 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.599 they have to stumble upon. If they're willing to seek truth, if they 213 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.559 question the world is much, especially with what's going on, then maybe they 214 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:45.400 might lead them down this path themselves. And I'm always there to support anyone 215 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.480 that has questions with this, because you know, this is something that I've 216 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:55.319 been researching and learning about for probably sixteen years and just a never ending rabbit 217 00:18:55.359 --> 00:19:00.400 hole. And people have a lot of questions and it's hard to find those 218 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.000 answers. But like I said, a lot of people, some of them 219 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.839 just don't want to question. But there is a lot of guiding light in 220 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:12.680 this world. And I am very hopeful. I'm very hopeful that a lot 221 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:17.480 of people are questioning. I know you've said many times, Yeah, they 222 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:22.279 overplayed their hand with COVID, and I can't agree more. They definitely fucked 223 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:26.400 up. And a lot of people are questioning this world. And I think 224 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:32.440 there's a reason why censorship bills are going to be passed, and there's a 225 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:37.559 reason why they're using flat earth as an example. Absolutely there. And everybody's 226 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.519 hero down in Florida De Santis just past HB two sixty nine, which you 227 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.559 know, you know, everybody that used to be the champion on the right 228 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:49.440 you can go to now. You can go to prison for five years if 229 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:52.000 you question some of the events of World War two. And that's right here 230 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.960 in the United States now, so you can add that to the list of 231 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.960 the countries around the world that you're not allowed to question. And again, 232 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.119 like Voltaire said, if you want to know who runs things, find out 233 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.319 you're not allowed to talk about. But we'll save that for another day now. 234 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.440 You had mentioned just a few minutes ago that a lot of people they 235 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.720 don't want to look into the truth because they'll realize that much of their life 236 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.880 is a lie. Fortunately for you, I mean, you're in your early 237 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:21.839 thirties, so you know, comparative to many other folks, you know, 238 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.519 that's that's fairly early in your life. But I guess you can talk about 239 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.119 when did you what did it take, where did you hear about the flat 240 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:33.640 Earth? And what made you finally let your guard down to look into this. 241 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:40.640 That's a great question. So, like I said earlier, you know, 242 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:45.160 I was one of those people that really just did not bother thinking that 243 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.519 it was even relevant. You know, I've had a lot of discussions with 244 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:53.079 friends where they bring up Flat Earth Society and willingly mock it, and I 245 00:20:53.599 --> 00:21:00.400 was one of them too, because you just think it's nonsense. And what 246 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:07.400 really took me down that rabbit hole was learning about NASA and the demonic symbols 247 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:14.880 behind it, and you start going through the occultism and the esoteric knowledge and 248 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:18.400 kind of the symbolism behind it, and then the amount of cover ups. 249 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:26.039 Obviously one of the biggest ones was Admiral Richardy bird Bird, and you started 250 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.920 learning about him, but it's all mainstream references to UFOs, but it's I 251 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:37.519 think there's a deeper story behind that. And when you started mentioning Captain Cook 252 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:45.240 I also started looking into that a lot of a lot of previous things that 253 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:52.039 I might have dismissed became very apparent when you start aligning all of this with 254 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:57.079 the Bible, and I hadn't reached that point when I first started kind of 255 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:04.119 diving into it. I was along the ideas of that it was possible, 256 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:10.400 and that Jesus in Christ and the story of the Bible might have been relevant, 257 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:14.000 but it might have all been allegorical. It might have been a story 258 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:18.839 of a story. And as I got deeper into just learning about NASA and 259 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:25.920 how this is all being covered up, it hit me like a like a 260 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:32.279 ton of bricks, and you know, you you find that relationship with God 261 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:38.799 pretty fucking fast, sorry for my language, and it scares you almost And 262 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.519 again when you start looking at the natural world around you and you look at 263 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:49.039 the sun through the clouds and you see the rays coming down. That was 264 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:53.839 one of the biggest things I still remember to this day driving to work and 265 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.079 I think I was probably in the first week of listening to your podcast, 266 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:03.200 and I almost almost had to pull over. It was just a very emotional 267 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:11.119 drive and started bawling because again, you realize that so much of the information 268 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.720 that's been presented has been skewed, and when you start really just seeing with 269 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:22.839 your own eyes, it really makes all the difference. But it took a 270 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.640 long time for me to see that. I'm thirty two now and I've only 271 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.839 come to this realization probably in the last six months, and a lot of 272 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.599 it was led from I kind of think it was my last conspiracy to really 273 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:44.160 go after I was able to look at a bunch of videos from David Weiss 274 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:52.039 and bought a couple of books, started looking over the flight path emergency landings, 275 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:57.559 and it was very, very easy to make the conclusion of what we 276 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:03.079 are what we are on. I kind of had this belief that we were 277 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:07.799 in a realm, and that again you've mentioned it, the media kind of 278 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.720 tells you this through a lot of the movies and imagery that they show, 279 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:17.559 And I remember having a conversation with my brother and just asking him, do 280 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.200 you think it's odd that in thor they say like Earth is a realm? 281 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.039 And it kind of just kept on spewing those same questions in my mind and 282 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:32.000 fueling this idea that if this is really real, life is one of the 283 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.559 most divine things in the world and that we really are here from God, 284 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:41.200 by the grace of God, and this life matters. Every life matters, 285 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:47.759 and that's why you just want to be that guy on the corner with science 286 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:52.799 saying you've been lied to that this is, this is, but again it's 287 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:59.960 it's a realization for you, and it was. It was a beautiful one. 288 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.319 I will say that that's amazing. And I know I've mentioned this before, 289 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.759 and we all have limited resources that includes both money and time, and 290 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:15.400 I've said many times that sometimes less is more. I've seen people kind of 291 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:22.400 out there with the megaphones doing their things, and I always have the utmost, 292 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:23.759 you know, add a boy for those people to act. Because you 293 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.759 talk about going outside of your comfort zone. I've done that once or twice 294 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:32.279 in my life. And I did a one story COVID, and I think 295 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:37.400 I mentioned this before. I think I was more intimidated out there doing that 296 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.400 than I was walking down the streets of Baghdad at some point. It was 297 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:44.160 very intimidating. It is getting outside of your comfort zone. But to have 298 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:48.240 that much conviction and stand up in front of complete strangers and give your testimony 299 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.559 and say, look, you're you've been lying to is amazing to me. 300 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.880 But in this particular situation, I've been really thinking and praying on how to 301 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.960 go about this. I think the smartest way to do it again, it's 302 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:07.440 about resources. I'd love to come up with a very because if you give 303 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.880 them a card or a pamphlet that says the Earth is flat, they're going 304 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:14.799 to ball it up and throw it in the trash. However, if you 305 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.079 if you're very careful about it, and you word it, do you want 306 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.119 to know the truth? And then just a website you know, and not 307 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.680 even you know. It could be seek the truth dot com. And I'm 308 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:29.160 just spitballing here right now. I'm just spinning in my brain. That would 309 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.079 be more intriguing. There's probably a more a greater chance that the person's going 310 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:37.240 to sit down on their phone and go to the website, and then if 311 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:38.759 you can lure them in with a catchy it's got to be a short two 312 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.480 minute video, and then the more they scroll down, the more information they 313 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:48.240 get. I think that's probably what I'm going to end up doing as far 314 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.160 as trying to get the word out about that, because I do believe less 315 00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:56.000 is more. I think that's an absolutely great idea. I mean, I 316 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:03.319 know that if because so much has been hidden it it's it's going to be 317 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.599 a central shock. But if you can kind of take their hand with them 318 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.160 and lead them through, and you know, if if if it just takes 319 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.680 uh one question and a possible couple answers in a short two minute video, 320 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.440 then at least again that that could be the seed that just makes them continue 321 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:27.640 and keeps on going through the website. There's there's an ever ever amount of 322 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:33.039 information and knowledge that that truly has been hidden from us. And I think 323 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:38.559 I think it is worth doing that because it's I think it's just one way 324 00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.680 that you can help and I think that's amazing. Let's let's talk a little 325 00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:47.599 bit more about your awakening. Um, was there a certain piece of evidence 326 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.559 like was it the firmament? What was it flight pass? What was there 327 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.400 a certain piece of information that you kind of like, yep, but we're 328 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:59.599 definitely not on a ball. Well, I know that I started going through 329 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:07.039 map and I know that there's been one that's come out recently. The astrolabe 330 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:15.440 and the moon maps have a very similar kind of inkling of information from each 331 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:22.000 one. They're very very similar, and the maps was really what kind of 332 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:30.640 took it over for me initially to start when when I started digging into this 333 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.799 flat earth, I originally started with learning about the history that might have been 334 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.200 stolen from us, and maps were one of them. So the more that 335 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.559 I was digging down this rabbit hole of what really is our past and you 336 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:52.920 know, is it tartaria, is it antiquitech, it just led me down 337 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:56.079 this map finding route where it just seemed like all the maps from the past 338 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.359 were completely different, and there was different lands, and some of them there 339 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:06.000 was no ice, and most of them were in a flat earth depiction, 340 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.960 most of them were in a in a round ball and it just made me 341 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:14.640 keep questioning, like was this a common knowledge back in the day. You 342 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.359 start learning about the education system and how it was taken over and how in 343 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:27.759 the early schooling of the eighteen sixties to forties or sorry sixties to nineteen twenty 344 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:33.200 eight ish, it was very very common to be talking about flat earth and 345 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:40.640 it was generic. It was almost very well known. And then when when 346 00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:45.039 I started going down part of the religious side, you start seeing the cosmology 347 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:52.400 of every past culture and it's all the same, It's all the same. 348 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.640 The firmament. I remember the GoPro video or starting not the gop or the 349 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.319 rocket, Oh yeah, the go fast rocket. Yeah. I questioned that 350 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.599 right off the bat, but when I showed it to my friend, his 351 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:14.319 immediate skepticism of it made me want to inquire more. And then you start 352 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:22.759 looking at old Britanica encyclopedias with properly coordinates and heights, and it like, 353 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.759 like I said, it falls in place very very quick. And um, 354 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.920 there's a lot, there's a lot. Uh sorry, I'm just kind of 355 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:38.559 going through a couple of my notes here. Uh no, no worries. 356 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.160 Can I ask you a question because I do recall in your email, UM 357 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:47.599 that you had mentioned that you've been gone down the Tataria rabbit hole? What 358 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:49.119 are your thoughts on that? Are you able to expand on that and kind 359 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.920 of explain it to our listeners? Um? What that? What that's all 360 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.440 about? So luckily there was a couple of YouTube channels that I found that 361 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:04.359 described what these bills things might be and how it might have coincided with christ 362 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:11.359 millennial reign and this mishmashing of the Bible and the New Testament and the Old 363 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:18.480 Testament. And when I started going into Tartaria, it started kind of maybe 364 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:25.680 dawning on me that time and history have been completely relinquished from us and been 365 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:32.519 taken over. And all of these buildings, I think might have been built 366 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:38.759 at a time where Christ's millennial reign had happened and there was a thousand years 367 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:47.039 of prosper for every nation, and that's I think that's the ability and timeline 368 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.319 on how these buildings had the ability to even be developed. You know, 369 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:56.480 if a far history shows that every nation was always warring, then how could 370 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.960 any of these buildings even have been built without being immediately demolished or taken over 371 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:09.759 or the whole history of our history really made me question everything that might have 372 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:16.759 been And when I really stumbled into there was an author named Anatoli Fremenko. 373 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:25.200 He was a Russian mathematician, a genius as far as many people were concerned, 374 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:35.240 and he started correlating all these history gaps and phantom timelines where it seemed 375 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.759 like the history that was told by the Jesuits was like a repeating one same 376 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:46.680 name, same dates, same groups of families were always conquering and taking over 377 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.799 compared to the story that they were creating. And it made me believe that 378 00:32:53.519 --> 00:33:00.720 we are truly divine and that we've experienced this fall from grace and there was 379 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:08.079 luckily another YouTube channel showed him out Mind Unveiled and he kind of helped draw 380 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:15.000 the lines about why we have previous maps that have Atlantis and that the history 381 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:23.000 of humanity is something something that has been heavily erased and scrubbed. It was. 382 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.079 It was overwhelming, to say the least, because it was something similar 383 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.319 to my my recent one with learning about flat Earth and realizing that this was 384 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:39.559 true, was that maybe we're we really are divine and that episode about learning 385 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:47.079 about the Old World and possible antiquitech and everything that has happened since it makes 386 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:52.039 me maybe just keep questioning history. Um, you start learning about how the 387 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.279 Mud, the Mud flood might have been more recent, and then it coincides 388 00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:02.920 with possibly Noah's flood, and it just kept on rolling the ball of all 389 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:09.159 these questions like where are we what timeline are we really in? And I 390 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:12.599 don't I to be honest, I don't think that we are in twenty twenty 391 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:17.599 three. I think there really was a thousand years. I added, that's 392 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.920 interesting. And by the way, while you were you're talking and again thanks 393 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.880 for sharing that great knowledge. I did find that mind Unveiled YouTube channel, 394 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.519 and I'll be sure to drop that in the show description. It looks like 395 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.519 he has about a quarter of a million subscribers, so obviously he's doing something 396 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.320 right. He looks like he talks about the mud floods. He also talks 397 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:43.559 about totteria alternative health, and he's got a wide for even music in four 398 00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.400 thirty two, which is interesting. I know a lot of people look for 399 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.639 that for positivity. That's pretty cool. I subscribed, and again i'll share 400 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:57.760 that in the show description. Did you find when you were researching? Because 401 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.880 Admiral Bird when you first find out about it, it's fascinating, But I 402 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:06.639 think it becomes pretty obvious that they embellish the story itself to kind of as 403 00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.880 they always do, throw us a curveball and get us looking away at something 404 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:15.679 else. M No, I can't agree more. It's I think that a 405 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.519 lot of these people that are put on the public scene or in front of 406 00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:28.760 cameras are potentially bought out in the end, or actors playing a role unfortunately. 407 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.360 I think maybe he was used for a purpose that maybe helped to create 408 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:42.719 treaties perhaps, and he might have had a purpose aside from telling that smidgeon 409 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:49.280 of truth to a massive amount of lies. That's a great observation. I 410 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.079 do want to ask you while we're while we're here, what are your thoughts 411 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:58.679 on you know, whether it's a Bill Gates or the guy who runs SpaceX 412 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.920 Elon Musk and Werner von Braun. Do you think their stories were organic or 413 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:06.880 do you think they are again actors on the world stage, And if so, 414 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.039 do you think it's a bloodline thing or do you think it's a secret 415 00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:19.039 society type of deal. I do think it is a bloodline thing. There 416 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.880 was a guess that you had on that talked about like serpent bloodlines, and 417 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:31.760 I think he related it to Hillary Clinton. And again I look back to 418 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.320 one of the best piece of evidence where there was I think an eleven year 419 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:43.840 old girl who tied all the previous president as cousins. Yea and yeah, 420 00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:50.199 I think she was in grade four. And I do think that somehow these 421 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:57.679 people are preserving their bloodlines and that they are possibly Cananite in blood and origin. 422 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:06.360 And I think it all goes back to Babylon. Absolutely couldn't agree more 423 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:13.280 how much of the things they tell us like how far do your conspiracies go? 424 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.480 Like for me, I even won up the flat earth theory. I'm 425 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:22.440 starting to believe in my old age. And I think actually David Weiss was 426 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.800 the one that kind of mentioned it when I talked to him a couple of 427 00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:32.440 years ago, that about the hopes of nuclear weapons as their portrayed. Obviously 428 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.280 there's large bombs and also satellites, and it's very interesting. You've seen I 429 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:43.639 think two in the last two or three months, these spy satellites and balloons, 430 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.599 and nobody's blinked an eye and thought about trying to connect what they tell 431 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:52.079 us our satellites and satellons. What are your thoughts on that. I remember 432 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:58.119 on Instagram when that was first revolving and a lot of people were kind of 433 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.920 going with the media storyline line of it, where yeah, no, that's 434 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.599 just a spy balloon, and I'm like, look what it's carrying. It's 435 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.800 carrying a satellite. Like it's the same thing, Like if you were to 436 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.920 take a photo of what a satellite looks like in space, put that on 437 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:16.079 a balloon. You're looking at that right now, And when it comes to 438 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:22.000 uh, sorry, what was your first Uh, it was satellites in the 439 00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.480 nukes. Oh yeah, No, that was a beautiful So I think you 440 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:36.800 referenced one of um uh seven. There was an episode I can't remember exactly, 441 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:44.480 UM seven seven the Crow familiar Yeah, Crow, triple seven. Yes, 442 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.320 so, uh you referenced it in one of your previous episodes. So 443 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.639 I went and listened to one of theirs and it was overwhelming. Um. 444 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:59.480 You know there there was a great podcast also, great Deception, who really 445 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.320 went through a lot of the fires of the old world and compared them to 446 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:07.199 things like Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and I think the same techniques were used. 447 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:14.960 Um. I've also I've also questioned why is every single nuke always equivalent to 448 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:22.360 TNT And it makes me it stands to reason that maybe TNT bombs are potentially 449 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.599 the only thing that we actually can make. And you hear all these stories 450 00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:37.480 about the beginnings of some of these foundations that were nuclear based, and I 451 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:43.119 think it was a scare tacticum, very similar to what you've referenced in the 452 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:51.719 past with the h What was it with the radio broadcast where they yes, 453 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:57.000 yes, And I think it's I think they've mastered the ability to confuse people 454 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.719 and hypnotize them and put thoughts in their own head. So it doesn't I 455 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:07.719 don't put it past them. M Yeah, it is interesting when you get 456 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.599 into the psychology of it. There's a couple of books that I have about 457 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:16.880 just mass hypnosis and psychology of the masses. And I mean one of the 458 00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:24.079 authors, I think his name is Gustan Gustav Labon. His book was essentially 459 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:30.159 used by the Nazis, they say, and it's it's very interesting when you 460 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:37.800 see all these techniques that Sigmund Freud's nephew Burney's was able to implement into daily 461 00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:45.559 advertising, and it is quite quite impressive. But it is conniving and deceitful 462 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:52.199 at heart, indeed, And it's interesting whether it be NASA with our tax 463 00:40:52.280 --> 00:41:00.280 money or Netflix with our subscription money they use because look, you work to 464 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.679 earn money and part of that goes into taxes to be deceived by NASA. 465 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.559 And then everybody likes to, you know, after a hard day's work, 466 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.719 have a have a meal with your family. You want to put your feet 467 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.239 up and you know, forget about your hard day. And it's it's interesting 468 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.079 when you really after you've waken up and you have time to reflect. It's 469 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:25.119 interesting how you you basically, um, you what's the word I'm looking for 470 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.519 here? You? Um, you're basically paying your slave master to deceive you. 471 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.519 Right, Um, it's it's um. You just shake your head. 472 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.599 And that was one of the things when again nine to eleven and all these 473 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:42.400 things were a bit of a punch in the stomach. But when you realize 474 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.320 that the world, you know, that we're not on a ball, and 475 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.639 how big the lie is, it's just like you said, it was really 476 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.199 overwhelming. I remember walking out of that house. I was living over across 477 00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:58.920 the way from Dover Air Force Base, and I just started walking and I 478 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.440 ended up like near a crick like almost a mile away from the house. 479 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:08.760 It's just, you know, waking up is a powerful process. It's very 480 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:15.800 emotional. There's highs and there's lows. There's kind of a release of breaking 481 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.880 the change of being free. Not to be too dramatic, but that's really 482 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.239 what it is. You're you're you're breaking the change of Satan and his deceive. 483 00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:28.920 The word deceive appears in the Bible I think sixty seven times, and 484 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.039 you know, he spent a lot of time. I think the story goes. 485 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.840 Jesus went to the desert to fast forty days forty knights, and Satan 486 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.239 appeared three times to tempt him. It's like, hey, if you're truly 487 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:40.719 the son of God just turned those rocks into you know, loaves of bread 488 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.719 and neat, imagine what he does to us on a daily basis. There 489 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.480 has only been one person in this entire you know, six or seven thousand 490 00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.480 years that the earth has been here, not four point five four billion like 491 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:57.360 they like to tell us. That has been perfect. And they have done 492 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:01.800 a tremendous job. And they have powerful tools which they didn't have so much 493 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:06.719 back in the day. But the printing press they use that when it became 494 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.599 popular to mold people's minds. And then radio, and now they have TV 495 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.400 and social media. So and you see, I don't like to use the 496 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:16.440 word, but I call them zombies. They just walk around with their cell 497 00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:23.000 phone in front of them, doing everything but looking for the truth. It 498 00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:29.119 can be overwhelming. I will say that, you know, I am, 499 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.039 like I said, I'm the only one in my family that thinks like this. 500 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:37.719 And I have a father that love CNN and is not interested in any 501 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.360 of this type of questioning. But again, when you do have that realization 502 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:51.920 that there is a real purpose for your life, you find that you just 503 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.960 want to share this joy and love with everyone. The best, the best 504 00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:01.840 thing that I think is to possibly do is there's a saying that I use, 505 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:08.760 and it's love every day and every day afterwards. And I think just 506 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:14.400 that simple message to yourself is something that can easily help to change the world. 507 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:19.800 All it does is do something small, but a small scale effect can 508 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:27.159 be utilized and multiplied, and I think that it gives you more purpose to 509 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.440 want to share in all the beautiful moments that you have. It's this realization 510 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.760 that you're alive, you're here for a reason, and you're here for a 511 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:45.000 reason because God made you strong enough. And maybe this realization that some people 512 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.719 are having is enough to create a bigger wave in the ocean than we could 513 00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:55.119 have thought, because more people and more people and more people keep questioning why 514 00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.840 is there so much censorship, Why are they doing this? Why are they 515 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.760 trying to ban guns? They lost a lot of time and they're trying to 516 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.280 utilize this as fast as they can. My belief is that we're in the 517 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:13.079 middle of Seaton's short season. That's a great observation. I usually try to 518 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:16.679 ask all my guests, was COVID? How did that affect your life? 519 00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:22.599 Is that something you saw through early on? And again that was also you 520 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.000 know, we talk about flut earth being a divisive topic, but COVID was 521 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.320 one of the most divisive topics amongst families over the last three years. You 522 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.000 know, are you vaccinated? Are you vaccinated? Keep your distance and all 523 00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:40.039 these type of things. Is that something that affected your life heavily. I 524 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:46.599 had two other friends that I talked to about this very early on, and 525 00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.360 I knew it as a play in one of their playbooks of multiple playbooks for 526 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:59.039 the New World Order. I was lucky enough to continue working through all the 527 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:05.280 shutdowns. I was a construction worker. I do HVAC and Calgary was building 528 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:10.639 a new cancer center, so we had to do testing, wearing masks, 529 00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:17.440 physical distancing. There was a whole lot to go through just to continue working. 530 00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.199 But luckily they didn't have to do any type of mandated vaccinations or force 531 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:28.599 vaccinations. But I was the only one in my family that was really understanding 532 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:34.079 of what this was, and everyone in my family decided to get vaccinated outcast 533 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:39.840 an alienation became almost common for me. It was unsettling to say the most, 534 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.280 because you know, these are the people you love, and obviously they 535 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:50.679 think they're doing the right thing. But I've always had this distrust for government, 536 00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.360 so I didn't think that this was a smart idea. Vaccination was something 537 00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.400 that kind of worried me because this new technology was not tested properly. There's 538 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:07.960 a lot of questioning right off the bat. COVID seemed like an amazing psychological 539 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:16.199 test to just see how how well will these people become obedient. It was 540 00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:23.639 unsettling to see my city, Calgary. They did everything that they could do 541 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:30.239 pretty much halt real life, normal life for anyone. It was. It 542 00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.440 was scary because you really see the overreach of government, especially at a municipal 543 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.960 level. You see the potential corruption between healthcare and government, which was very 544 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:47.679 evident with Alberta healthcare systems. Yeah, it was a mental It was a 545 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.079 mental strain for sure. There was a lot of sticking to my guns and 546 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.800 being confident in what I believed in, and it was upsetting to a lot 547 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.800 of my family members. It was a conversation between my brothers where they expressed 548 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:08.480 their dismay to my beliefs or thought that what I was thinking was just dumb 549 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:15.960 and that this could never happen. But I kept referencing that, Man, 550 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.840 I've been talking about this for like fifteen years now, you know, I've 551 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.800 told you guys about New World Order. I had a brother that introduced me 552 00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:28.840 to the idea of a one world government because he read it from the Bible 553 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:35.039 when he was younger, and it influenced that scary thought of oh my god, 554 00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:38.880 this all might be real and they might be trying to make their push. 555 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:43.760 Early on in Calgary when COVID, you know, we had a couple 556 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.960 of cases. I don't think many deaths were happening, but the whole city 557 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:51.519 was on lockdown and it was hard just to drive around. And again, 558 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:57.000 best friends were able to just meet up and talk and theorize about what this 559 00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.239 is and what a potential plan might be. And it wasn't too hard for 560 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:07.960 four hour conversations in a truck to happen, just because again, I think 561 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:14.000 we've seen through so many lies as we grew up, and we questioned so 562 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.760 many events that once this happened, it was hard not to kind of see 563 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:22.199 where the plan was going. But we anticipated it and we just held strong 564 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:30.199 with our beliefs. I still remained unvaccinated, and I'm very grateful because I 565 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.960 know that right now there's a lot of people that have vaccine regrets and it 566 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:40.320 is unfortunate. I think it was deceitful, and I think again it opened 567 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.920 up a lot of people's eyes to what this really was and questioned government the 568 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.360 same way that I have. So it is a small win, and I 569 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.079 hope people are able to find help and support through that because there's a lot 570 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.239 of injuries that have happened since. And you know, I always look back 571 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:07.039 to some of those videos where you know there's people in nursing homes and their 572 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.599 children are there to visit and they're behind glass, and it's it's heartbreaking, 573 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.400 it really is, because humanity and humility were all removed in one night, 574 00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:24.800 and you really start to understand how easily people can be manipulated. And again 575 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:30.039 when you when you're able to see kind of the tactics and the techniques being 576 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:36.440 used, it's very easy to see through and and be a bit more understanding 577 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.280 to what was happening. But again, it came with a lot of alienation 578 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:49.239 and upset conversations between my family members unfortunately. Yeah, and you had mentioned, 579 00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.000 you know, there's some folks out there with vaccine regret now in retrospect, 580 00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.079 you know here and we're almost halfway through twenty twenty three, has any 581 00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:00.800 your family members kind of digressed a little bit and said, Hey, maybe 582 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:07.079 you were right. There has not been an admission or anything. I'm not 583 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.079 I put no expectations on that. I think if there is going to be 584 00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.599 a realization, it's not going to be something that I do want to hear 585 00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:21.920 from them. I want them to be true with themselves. I don't want 586 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.320 them to be apologetic to me. I just I understand the stresses that they 587 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:30.119 were going through it. And the biggest thing is is that people like you 588 00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.760 and me, we see the world in a different way. And I don't 589 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.960 I don't think that it's anything bad. But you also can't blame the other 590 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.760 people for the way that they see the world and how they also reacted. 591 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.639 Fear was used and it was the greatest weapon, unfortunately, and I just 592 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.920 made sure not to succumb to it. And that's what they do. That's 593 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:58.199 the term I ears I use. It's a fear based mind control and it's 594 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:02.800 um you know they put whether it's visual like nine to eleven or you know, 595 00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:08.840 they were very smart because if you remember, they started planning those seeds 596 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.239 in like January of twenty twenty, they were showing these very brief clips from 597 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:19.159 China, people just collapsing in the streets and you saw a couple of body 598 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.440 bags. And then of course they brought up the ships into the New York 599 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.719 Harbor. You know, we've got this Navy medical ship here because there's gonna 600 00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.280 be so many people sick. So you know, fear is one of the 601 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.840 most powerful tools. And once again you had mentioned it earlier that the War 602 00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:37.119 of the World's episode. I think they were like, wow, people will 603 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.719 buy anything if you tell them. And I think that's what we saw over 604 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:47.599 the last few years and kind of getting back into the flat Earth. It's 605 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.639 been said for quite a long time. I think it started when a project 606 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:58.599 Blue Beam became public and then everybody plays the clip from Ronald Reagan. You 607 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:01.039 know, if there would be just one event that would unite the world, 608 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:07.639 it would be something from another you know, another world. So they're planning 609 00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.599 these seeds. What are your what are your thoughts on that? Well? 610 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:15.920 I remember I started looking into that pretty early when I first heard about it. 611 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:21.880 I can't remember the gentleman's name, but he was the one that first 612 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:27.840 exposed this to the world, and then he was shortly killed shortly after unfortunately. 613 00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:30.840 But most of the time when you do search up Project Bluebeam, his 614 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:36.239 name is the one that comes up. And when I really started looking into 615 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.519 it, and that the fact that they had plans to use it during the 616 00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:46.119 recent invad or the last invasion after nine to eleven, you start kind of 617 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:52.159 seeing. And also there's the admission of Renard von Braun on his deathbed saying, 618 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.880 you know, don't fall for the fake alien war. I think that 619 00:53:55.960 --> 00:54:00.039 they have multiple tricks up their sleeve. I think I think it's an Yeah, 620 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.880 the spraying the skies that we see are them trying to essentially create a 621 00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:09.519 hologram screen or like a backdrop in the sky so that they do have the 622 00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:19.280 ability to display whatever they would like. And it could be the fake second 623 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:24.360 coming of Jesus. It could be. My recent thought was maybe they could 624 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:34.039 use it as a backdrop for a comet and then blow up something as a 625 00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:38.760 result of it. There's so many possible scenarios. I've heard that the Phoenix 626 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:44.159 Lights that happened in the nineties, I believe was their first test of a 627 00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:50.159 hologram simulation. And I can't remember who I heard if I've heard it through 628 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.400 a couple different videos just surfing the web and whatnot. But he starts questioning, 629 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.239 like can they project this in the air from like a plane, Like 630 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:07.000 what possibilities do they have? I think that the fake alien war could easily 631 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.280 be one because the thing that worries me the most is that they had the 632 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:15.639 ability to control the weather. And I think that if they were able to 633 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:23.800 use this scenario where archaeological discoveries have been found that dispute religion, then they 634 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:31.920 could also create this fake alien maybe not invasion but welcoming, we've returned kind 635 00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:38.760 of thing, we are your gods. And then this belief that space continues 636 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:49.400 and it might be a possible Satanic plot, and it it really has so 637 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.119 many possible scenarios. Just I mean, you can really use your imagination for 638 00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:59.320 anything. Made a couple interesting points, and I always say that they use 639 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.079 Hollywood to kind of mold people's minds. I think that would be a great 640 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.920 amount of people that would be excited for something like that. To happen. 641 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.480 You see, I was listening to somebody the other days. Is kind off 642 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.639 point for a second, but he had mentioned that people will stand in line 643 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.719 for Star Wars movies and things like that for hours on end and then sit 644 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.440 through a three hour movie. But when they're in church on Sunday, you 645 00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.320 know, once they go past an hour, people start looking at their watches. 646 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:30.159 But I think a lot of people would be excited about that type of 647 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.880 thing, right, I think that you're absolutely right. I think they love 648 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:39.079 the idea of space. I think that's one of the easiest reasons why people 649 00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:45.199 believe in NASA, even you know, there's a lot of Christians believe solely 650 00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:50.480 in the Bible, but have faith in NASA that there's a solar system and 651 00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:57.719 that. So it's this combining of mixing of cosmologies and religion where I think 652 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.760 that they have that upper hand where they been able to create this excitement in 653 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:06.360 case they do find life or if life comes here, but we don't really 654 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.559 know what potential that may bring. That's the only unfortunate thing. I don't 655 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.920 believe in the idea of space. I don't believe in the idea of aliens. 656 00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:22.679 I think If anything, it might be the extra terrestrials from potentially worlds 657 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:27.320 outside our firmament. I think there might be multiple firmaments. But the thing 658 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.000 that I think a lot of people need to realize is that we really can't 659 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:35.000 know what we're on. I don't think we really do. And once you 660 00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:39.679 really start from that level grounds, it's a bit easier to kind of question 661 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:45.599 and think about the possibilities of a flat earth more than a ball. And 662 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.800 that was actually my next question to you was do you think there is land, 663 00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:55.360 whether it be within our firmament here or the you know, Antarctica, 664 00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:01.599 or outside. So I can completely agree with the media telling you everything. 665 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.559 I recently, I haven't gotten into Game of Thrones, but I know that 666 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:12.320 there's that whole basis of like a frozen or like the winter, the winter, 667 00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:16.199 the Winter's coming, and I think that, yeah, there might be 668 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:23.440 essentially something similar to the moon map. More than anything, I think that 669 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.079 there is more land outside. But I think that right now, because of 670 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:34.960 the way that we're rotating in this firmament, we have a warm section of 671 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.599 land that we're all living on, and there is a subsection of land that 672 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:45.119 is possibly colder. Further off into Antarctica, but it really is hard to 673 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:52.719 say. Again, there's a there's been a couple Instagram videos and hypothesis that 674 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:59.320 there's multiple different ponds and that's where we get all these names of planets like 675 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:07.679 Mars, Land of Mars, not Narnie out the You know, you have 676 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:13.320 all these planetary bodies that are actually just pawns like ours, and I think 677 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.519 that there might be multiple firmaments. I mean, I recently just saw this 678 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:23.000 random thing on Instagram where it was the Simpsons driving away from their city as 679 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:25.880 fast as they can, and then they end up going into another city, 680 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.920 but it's Bob's Burgers, and as they zoom out, you know, you'll 681 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:36.960 see like the head of Bender as a firmament, and then Homer's head as 682 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:42.840 a firmament, and then like south Park Cartman's head as a firmament. So 683 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:49.239 all you see all these like little odd firmaments around and I think again it's 684 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:51.880 one of those like karmic things that they have to do. They have to 685 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:58.599 tell you the truth because they know the rules of the natural world. So 686 00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:04.760 media plays a huge part in this. You always bring up how they always 687 01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.000 have like a globe everywhere. Yes, and I remember seeing a clip from 688 01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:15.800 nineteen twenty seven. It was Universal's first photo and like a first budget movie, 689 01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:20.719 and they had the exact replica of the Earth that NASA uses, but 690 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:24.480 it was twenty some odd years, thirty some odd years before NASA was even 691 01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:30.280 created. That's right. I just pulled it up now. It's ridiculous, 692 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:37.559 and it shows a plane flying around the globe. It's that symbolism, man. 693 01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:39.920 I think. I think the biggest thing that's going to be their biggest 694 01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:45.280 downfall is once people start seeing this type of symbolism and correlating it, then 695 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:52.920 I think you're going to see this ushering of a change of thinking and consciousness 696 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:58.519 around the world. I think there's enough of people asking questions since COVID where 697 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.719 they're starting to look for those symbols. No, it's interesting. I think 698 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:08.039 it was either yesterday or today. I was listening to Josh from the Founded 699 01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:14.000 Earth Brothers. He was on I think back in February. Maybe he interviewed 700 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:16.400 I think it was recent. I know sometimes people replace some of their older 701 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:22.320 things, but he interviewed a pilot and the guy was like, and I 702 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:25.440 had mentioned this a long time ago that in the Army technical manual. I 703 01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.559 was in a Blackhawk unit. We had UH sixties Blackhawks, and the technical 704 01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:34.159 manual said, you know, treat the earth is flattened, non rotational. 705 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.440 Again, you don't think about these type of things, or oh, that's 706 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.679 interesting, and then you start thinking about, well, if you're coming in 707 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.559 east to west, or i should say from north to south. Right, 708 01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:50.920 Let's say you're flying from Boston to Philly and the globe is spinning at a 709 01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.760 thousand miles an hour, how are you able to land? Right? But 710 01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:57.760 the other interesting point he made was he's like, when I'm a pilot, 711 01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:00.840 we're constantly having to tip the knows up more than anything. And if you 712 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.239 were flying on a globe, you would be having to constantly tip the nose 713 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.480 down. And then of course your scientism folks will talk about them my gravity, 714 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:15.519 you know all this that and the other thing magnetism. Yeah there, 715 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.320 you know, I'm a firm believer that this is a magnetic realm that we 716 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:24.639 live in and positive in the air and negative in the ground, and that's 717 01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:30.960 why grounding works, and that's why stuff falls. And it's a magnetic attraction 718 01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:36.440 with density. That's right, And Kat, who's actually we're doing her interview 719 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:42.519 Saturday afternoon. I think it'll be released Sunday night. She's very brilliant with 720 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.719 that side of the house, with magnetism, etc. And Um, I 721 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:51.400 think more and more I think about that and read into it one d that's 722 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.960 exactly what's going on. But they want you to believe once again that none 723 01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:58.519 of it makes sense. And the more you think about it, you look 724 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:02.679 at the globe and it's just like, it's ridiculous. And even you know, 725 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:08.480 I've had people who had I've spoken to people who have done tours in 726 01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:13.480 Antarctica. Um, I mean they have plumbers down there, they have um 727 01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:15.880 Commo people down there, they have cooks down there. I mean it's a 728 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:22.039 regular installation. They have all kinds of occupations, and they're like, I 729 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.840 never felt like blood was rushing to my head. Um, we weren't definitely 730 01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.159 upside down. And if you believe the globe, no matter what, if 731 01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.679 you're on Antarctica, you're you're you're you're upside down. There's no two ways 732 01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.960 about it. And I know that sounds ridiculous, but I mean, is 733 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:43.559 there any other how how do they explain that to us? Oh? Man, 734 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:49.360 it's just convoluted lies and fancy math at this point. Uh. Like 735 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.639 I said, I think most of these people that are on these professional stages 736 01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:58.480 are just that actors playing a role. And I think that's that's one of 737 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.360 the explanations I think on why they the moon landing was so easily able to 738 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:06.719 be faked was you know, they hire police, they hire firefighters at the 739 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:12.199 staging ground. There might not have been anyone in the shuttle, but you 740 01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.000 know, all these cops and all these people that are on technical boards and 741 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:19.840 they're on microphones doing countdowns. They're there to do their job. They're not 742 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:26.360 questioning if they're playing a role or not. They're just there to do their 743 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.760 job. And I think it's similar to the Manhattan Project, where it's you 744 01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:36.920 dissect all these divisions and departments and convolute the information so no one really knows 745 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:42.280 what the other person's doing, and it becomes very very easy at that point, 746 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:45.320 I think, And by the way, I should I don't know if 747 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.960 I've ever said this, I don't believe a person has ever been inside a 748 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:56.039 rocket. Well, I think you see, I'm I'm a little torn because 749 01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:01.400 obviously that the guys there's a video of um I guess it was the guys 750 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:06.400 from Apollo eleven that we're using the window, you know, to to kind 751 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.239 of make it look like a ball globe. It was around window when they 752 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:15.440 were using that, But certainly I don't believe anybody was in the challenger. 753 01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:17.239 What are your thoughts on that? Um, you know, we're kind of 754 01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:25.199 creeping back into NASA, and I think I think it's I'll be quick with 755 01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.639 this. I think a lot of those conspiracies about the people being alive still 756 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:33.480 is absolutely true. I think we're if they were ever going to be doing 757 01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:39.280 a fake explosion, it will be with this next one, Artemis, And 758 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.199 I don't think that the people will die. I think they're going to use 759 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:48.440 this as a potential next way to do trauma based mind control. I think 760 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:53.960 they're going to have like a Columbia Number two kind of thing coming up. 761 01:05:55.760 --> 01:05:59.440 That's my prediction though. Yeah, I've had a few people tell me that, 762 01:05:59.800 --> 01:06:01.000 and I think a lot of it will have to do with the date, 763 01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:05.079 because they're very they're all about their numerology. I've said before, July 764 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.239 twentieth, this is the two hundred and first day of the year, and 765 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:14.239 that is the Jesuit's favorite number. That's why they absolutely event to A one, 766 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:18.199 which was the practice run for COVID. The number two A one is 767 01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.760 very big to them, and they mock us a lot too, like the 768 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:26.960 what was the name of that astronaut back in the seventies and eighties, Sally 769 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.400 Ride, I mean, come on, and then you had Neil A. 770 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.480 Armstrong, you know, the A backwards with Neil is alien. There's a 771 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:39.119 lot of mockery in these type of things. Well, that's the funny thing. 772 01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.400 I remember when we were chatting about the nuclear bombs. One of the 773 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:50.239 girl that was highlighted around that whole Crow seven seven seven podcast was Mary Curry 774 01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:54.559 I think was her name, And right off the bat, they're like, 775 01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:58.800 say Mary Curry three times and again it spells out Mercury if you say it 776 01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:03.360 fast enough. And that was whole story that she was given in history, 777 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:09.840 was that this girl essentially, I can't exactly remember the work with Mercury that 778 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:14.679 you did with the Adam bomb, but it's that it's that word play, 779 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.639 the word play and the word magic indeed, and it's funny. By the 780 01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:25.199 way, you guys should check out Sally Ride's story because again with the Mocria. 781 01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:30.039 When she entered UCLA, she enrolled in courses in quantum mechanics and Shakespeare, 782 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:34.239 so she was an actor. I mean, it's right in front of 783 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:41.679 you. Oh yeah, can't make this stuff up. Um, it's interesting, 784 01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:45.079 it's very you can go down these rabbit holes all day. If you're 785 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:50.760 given unlimited resources, um, and you know two weeks, which way would 786 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:58.880 you re use the resources to um solidify your point on flat Earth? Would 787 01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:06.079 it be? Um? Antarctica? Gee, there's quite a lot, um, 788 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.519 because that's a hard question because the easiest thing for me was looking at 789 01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:19.960 the Sun. But it's hard to convince so many people about the Sun being 790 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:25.239 ninety three million miles away, So I think that one might be off the 791 01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.640 table. So I think Antarctica would be the biggest one, just because you 792 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:35.079 can reference so many political treaties and countries that are there to protect it, 793 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:42.039 which might raise a couple of ebe grows. But um, yeah, that 794 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:46.279 that might be the easiest one, I think. Or flights, do a 795 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:50.560 flight path with someone if you had unlimited amounts, say we're gonna go here 796 01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:57.800 and let them be a visual observer. Yeah, that's that might Yeah, 797 01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:01.800 that's and again a lot of people will say if because you said you were 798 01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:08.880 talking about the Earth being magnetized, um, why is it when they crossed 799 01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:15.159 the south pole doesn't things flip? Well, yeah, that's a great question, 800 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:19.119 right, And I think you know, I have the flat Earth app 801 01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:24.359 and one of the recent videos I think that was put out there was Dave 802 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:31.159 with a compass and just the oddities of the magnetic abilities, where you know, 803 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:33.920 if you think you're going east, you might actually be going south the 804 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:40.720 whole time, just because you're reading the compass wrong. But I think I 805 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:46.600 think magnetism is something that has been not taught the way that it should have 806 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:50.319 been, just for that reason, so that people don't make these connections the 807 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:55.199 fact that we might have, you know, a six foot or around us 808 01:09:55.239 --> 01:10:00.479 of energy, magnetic energy that comes from our heart. That might be possible. 809 01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.880 But when you start learning about magnetism, you realize like, oh man, 810 01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:10.239 this might actually be the world that we live in. And there's a 811 01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:14.720 lot of examples and experiments, but I think it's been made sure to not 812 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.840 be taught in schools the way that we're supposed to learn about it. I 813 01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:24.600 think the same thing goes with ether. Tesla talked about it, but Einstein, 814 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.880 I think, was there to rebute it. Yep, yep, another 815 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:32.079 actor on the world stage. It's interesting you had mentioned the six foot with 816 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:40.479 the aura, right, somebody had mentioned that within the last two weeks offline, 817 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:44.760 and they said, isn't it interesting that during COVID, what was the 818 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:47.760 distance that you were supposed to keep away from people six feet apart? Six 819 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:51.520 ft apart? And look how disconnected it seems that we've become as a society 820 01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:57.479 over the last few years. Yeah. I think when it came to the 821 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:01.159 perfect idea for a virus, it would be one that makes humans stop being 822 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:08.159 human. And I think that was the whole plan, was disconnect us emotionally 823 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:12.760 and in a physical sense too, like no holding hands kind of stuff, 824 01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:16.359 and it's like, well, it's an intimate connection, but also making sure 825 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:20.159 to space. I think again, a lot of it was planned properly because 826 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:27.039 I think the people that run this world they know the true powers of humans 827 01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.279 and what we really are. And I think a lot of people have seen 828 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:38.640 the movie They Live. But when I first started researching those types of lenses, 829 01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:45.439 the creator that created those spectacles was using it on fruits and humans and 830 01:11:45.479 --> 01:11:49.600 he kept on seeing that you could you could see auras and anything that's living. 831 01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.520 By the way, A little secret, that's my favorite movie. I 832 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:59.439 actually have one of the original movie posters from I think that movie cam On 833 01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:03.640 eighty seve or eighty eight, a great, great moving and a great um, 834 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.479 you know, analogy for the world itself. Before he died, I 835 01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:13.159 don't know if you remember, but Roddy Piper tweeted that They Live was a 836 01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:17.399 documentary. He died shortly after that, which I find interesting. But yeah, 837 01:12:17.439 --> 01:12:23.199 that that number six appears a lot in our world. It's certainly out 838 01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:26.119 there. And um, that is a great point you made, because I 839 01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:29.000 had heard somebody mentioned that within the last couple of weeks. Are like, 840 01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.479 isn't it interesting that you know, supposedly you have this area of six feet 841 01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:35.960 around you and they wanted you to stay six feet apart from each other? 842 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:43.119 And also interesting the level of fear porn. We have a German bakery in 843 01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:47.279 town, and um, I talked to the owner because I used to be 844 01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:51.720 stationed where he kind of around where he grew up in Germany, and he 845 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.439 had said, post covid um, they used to sell a lot of birthday 846 01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.680 cakes but now people want cupcakes because they're they're afraid that if the child blows 847 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.439 out the candles on the cake, that if the kids eat the cake, 848 01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:05.960 they're going to get sick. I mean, that's how brainwashed people have become 849 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:10.439 over this. I know, I still see, you know, going to 850 01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:15.119 the grocery store. The fear. Really, it really enveloped people's lives. 851 01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:20.199 Unfortunately. Again, I live in a pretty populated city. Calgary's home to 852 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.640 about I think two and a half a million now, and you can still 853 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:29.640 drive around the city and see people driving by themselves with masks on. Yeah, 854 01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.399 we see that all the time too. It's I mean, yeah, 855 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:34.800 we live in a free country, so they tell us, and I'm not 856 01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:39.800 going to tell anybody. I used to be very worked worked up when I 857 01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:42.640 would go past an elementary school when I was taking my walk or whatever, 858 01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.800 and the children would be outside eighty five degrees wearing a mask. It was 859 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:50.079 hard not to say anything. But at the end of the day, you 860 01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:54.720 know, it's they're killing themselves, you know, breathe the fresh air. 861 01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:59.720 Dang it. That you have been a tremendous, tremendous interview. Was there 862 01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:01.640 a thing, as you had written down that we hadn't touched on yet. 863 01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:12.800 Let's see here I got world fairs and interesting, Yeah, the world fairs 864 01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:17.079 is That's kind of the one point that I think if you were to show 865 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:24.680 people the documented reality of the history that they tell us versus what the actual 866 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:30.840 photos show, it might be something that might quickly waken people up. It 867 01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:32.880 might be like a sensory overload. Unfortunately, because when you see some of 868 01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:36.960 these cities and some of these worldfairs that were put on, you start realizing, 869 01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:42.439 like, wow, every city that we live in was already inhabited and 870 01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:48.720 something happened, and it just makes you take that extra step and a bit 871 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:55.960 more to questioning his story because it's not our story. Unfortunately, we've never 872 01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.399 called it that, and we're learning someone else's story that they want us to 873 01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:08.000 be taught. Unfortunately. Another one was word Magic, and you know how 874 01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:13.520 you were referencing sources and stuff that you could add to a website if you 875 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:17.920 were to bring one up. Yes, so there's a great book called Word 876 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:27.760 Magic by Poo Chang, and they have he decided to write out twenty ways 877 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:32.680 to save humanity. And I think, you know, if anyone listening is 878 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.439 eager like me to try and spread the word or plant a seed. I 879 01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:40.760 think one of the easiest things you can do is just print off that list 880 01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:45.199 and posted on a tree or somewhere where it can be seen. And it's 881 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:53.119 just great useful tips to help people understand that words do have meaning. And 882 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:58.079 like the Bible said, at first, there was the word, and when 883 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:04.000 you start correlating as I have, with what the Bible really represents it, 884 01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:09.840 it's a beautiful thing. But that book alone has really helped me to just 885 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:14.760 understand the words that they use to deceive you. And it's in everyday words, 886 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:20.720 every single day words, um, everything like weekend and library. Those 887 01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:26.279 are all words that are used against us, the English, the English language. 888 01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:30.239 If we truly knew it, we'd know how deceiving it really is. 889 01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:36.119 Wow, that's a very expensive book. I'm looking on Amazon. It's two 890 01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:42.159 hundred and thirty dollars. Yeah, it's uh. There should be some second 891 01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:45.680 edition ones that are a bit cheaper. Okay, yeah, yeah, I 892 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:50.079 think I bought mine for about thirty bucks with shipping cheaper. It was. 893 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:56.479 It was recommended from the Great Deception. He's he's very inclined on trying to 894 01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:02.840 spread knowledge, aside from old world stuff, and he's one of my favorites 895 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.840 next to your podcast, that's for sure. How much of this do they 896 01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:11.399 use against us? This word magic? Do you think it's in like the 897 01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:15.399 things we repeat a lot, like, say, because like being in school 898 01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:17.520 back in the day, you would say the pledge of allegiance and things like 899 01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.560 that. Do you think the word magic is in those type of things that 900 01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:27.439 we repeat often? I think it's almost everywhere. Like I had this thought 901 01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:33.520 about chanting and what chanting might really be, and then you relate it to 902 01:17:33.600 --> 01:17:40.039 something like singing a psalm, and it's like, if it's a bad intent 903 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:46.159 behind the word, maybe you're chanting something negative without knowing, but you're just 904 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:51.359 singing. And I think that they've been able to corrupt a lot of the 905 01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:56.880 words. Like there's a great artist. He's in old school nineties rappers, 906 01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:00.439 and he was Caress one and he's just all about knowledge, spreading knowledge. 907 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:06.680 And one of the beginnings of one of his songs, there's like a little 908 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:14.039 cut scene where a little peasant boy runs into the Emperor's room and he's like, 909 01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.319 we have a place to bury the lies and all the false history. 910 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.119 He's like, what shall it be called He's like, it's a library. 911 01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:28.960 Well, we'll bury the lies. Wow. And it's simple simple words like 912 01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:33.720 that, Yeah, that that have kind of been used against us unfortunately. 913 01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:38.279 Like I was driving to work today and I was like, what's the root 914 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:40.520 of like weekend again? And I was like, all right, it's the 915 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:44.960 week end of the deal? Work five days, get two days off the 916 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.239 weekend of the deal? Is this all from that book that you read? 917 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:54.279 Uh? Part of it is I I've started assimilating and just breaking down words 918 01:18:54.279 --> 01:19:00.720 on basic levels because you get the week end of the deal, don't absolutely 919 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:05.279 and and uh yeah, it's just really really interesting when you start like trying 920 01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:10.560 to break down the common words that everyone use and what the roots of them 921 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:15.600 really might be. Um, there's a really great uh I think he's part 922 01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:18.880 of the Crow. But his name is Maxwell Egan. Yeah, and he 923 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:24.399 has yeah he he I love his voice. Um. He has this amazing 924 01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:29.840 video on YouTube called History is a Lie. And part of the stuff that 925 01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:34.319 I've learned about word magic was in that video. And uh yeah, when 926 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:40.239 you start seeing all these like little small things where it's it's pretty revolutionary, 927 01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:44.439 you start kind of take down the veil and you start to see the world 928 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:48.000 a little bit more for what it really is. And it's really interesting. 929 01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:51.720 Like I must say, the people that are running show right now, I've 930 01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:58.520 got a compliment them because what they've done is it's mind blowing on it on 931 01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:03.520 a psychological level. But there is there is hope of breaking out of this 932 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:09.960 trap. I want to help to be a reason for a better world, 933 01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.399 and I think a lot of people that are in this community feel the same 934 01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:17.039 way, to be honest, indeed, and it's interesting going back to what 935 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.560 you were saying, I did a podcast on I'm not sure if you've you 936 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:27.239 know the Beatles Paul McCartney. There was a rumor story, conspiracy theory that 937 01:20:27.239 --> 01:20:31.439 he died in sixty six and whether or not they it actually happened very I 938 01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:34.279 think it was Sergeant Pepper's the video when he starts to play it right handed, 939 01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:38.920 he stops, he switches. But there's a lot of interesting things. 940 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:44.239 But more important than that, there was a college I want to say Stanford. 941 01:20:44.279 --> 01:20:45.399 I could be wrong. This was This was a couple of years ago. 942 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:50.239 I'm just going off memory right now. That they I think they gave 943 01:20:50.279 --> 01:20:54.920 the people a questionnaire ask them would they buy this, would they buy that? 944 01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:57.840 So they said, hey, we're going to take a six or seven 945 01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.720 minute intermission. We're just I guess they gave him a coke or something. 946 01:21:00.760 --> 01:21:03.239 Said we're just going to play a song. We'll be back in five or 947 01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:08.079 six minutes. So they leave the room and they put on the beatles let 948 01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:11.680 it Be, and they noticed that people were sipping the coke and singing. 949 01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.600 But what they're doing is they're chanting, let it be, Let it be, 950 01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:19.720 Let it be, Let it be. And of course a lot of 951 01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:25.359 these groups came out of I can't think of it right now, there was 952 01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:29.880 something house out of England that was responsible for a lot of the music from 953 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:35.479 the sixties and seventies, and it's very interesting. So after the song was 954 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.319 over, they came back and they asked them similar but not the same questions. 955 01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.680 They answered quite differently, like they were yeah, sure, I guess 956 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:46.960 I would buy that. You know. It was very interesting that they became 957 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:56.039 more open minded and more vulnerable. Very interesting. Yeah. No. A 958 01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:59.600 great one that I saw when I was younger was it was like a black 959 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:03.359 and white film that we were studying for social studies, and it was a 960 01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:08.199 man enters an elevator, everyone's got their hats on. He takes off his 961 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:12.800 hat and then within a couple of seconds everyone starts for moving it and then 962 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:15.520 he puts it back on as he walks out, and people that are still 963 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:19.359 in the elevator put it back on also, And it was just this power 964 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:26.479 of suggestion, and you know, you break down how chanting might be the 965 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:30.279 case with songs. It's in the same thing when it comes to the words 966 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.279 like programming and channel. So if you were to like channel an entity or 967 01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:39.720 an idea, there's a reason why it's on a TV is because that's how 968 01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:44.760 you channel it. Same thing with programming. It's TV programming, but it's 969 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:49.800 programming, and it's these easy references that I think people have just I think 970 01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:56.079 there's a lot of stuff to hypnotize people and make them not bored. Like 971 01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.760 I said, I think the world that we live in is designed to not 972 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:02.520 ask questions and to not give you the free time to discuss the world around 973 01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:09.039 us. Indeed, and I will put I think I've put it in before 974 01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:13.880 in the show description, but when George Maxwell does his little speech about I 975 01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:17.560 think it was maritime admiral law, but he actually broke down the words like 976 01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:21.039 you know, words cut like a knife or like a sword, and the 977 01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:26.680 word word is within sword. He did a tremendous job breaking that down as 978 01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:31.199 well. No, I'm actually really glad you included that in that episode because 979 01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:35.439 I was sitting in my truck waiting to go play golf when I when I 980 01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:41.239 decided to listen to that thirteen minutes and just thought it was super interesting. 981 01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:45.119 And a friend of mine who kind of perked his ears up one day during 982 01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:50.680 conversation of word Magic, I sent him that that single podcast and with the 983 01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:56.279 time stamp, hey start listening from here it's really neat stuff on word Magic, 984 01:23:56.399 --> 01:24:00.399 and he ended up listening to the whole thing and it was completely by 985 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:03.479 accident. I never really wanted him to listen to it, because I know 986 01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:09.760 he's not a flat earther. But it was a NASA episode. I think 987 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:14.560 that you started it out with and you referenced how in one of the photos 988 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:18.199 that NASA uses you can see the squirrel. So of course he decides to 989 01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:23.840 look up the photo and confirms it, and it was an amazing, like 990 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.680 little breakthrough for him where he was like, wow, NASA does lie. 991 01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.880 This is awesome. That is soluminal. You don't have to believe that because 992 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:35.680 nasallise that the earth is flat. But if nasalized, then that proves it 993 01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:41.880 nasalized. And that's objectional, right, Like you can't make the connection that 994 01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:45.680 because nasalized that the earth is flat, but a simple connection like, hey, 995 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:50.840 nasalized, that's a great ground to break. It really is. Yeah. 996 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:56.239 And speaking of books, if you guys really want to know how unorganic 997 01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:00.319 the music scene was in the sixties, urge everybody to read Dave McGowan Owen's 998 01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:03.560 Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon. All those the Grateful Dead, all those guys, 999 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:08.159 their parents were all in the CIA, and they all came from the 1000 01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:12.479 same area of California. Absolutely, even um the police, which is you 1001 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:14.520 know back in the eighties when I was in high school, that was they 1002 01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:18.560 were my my guys. Stuart Copeland, who was the drummer, I believe 1003 01:25:19.560 --> 01:25:23.680 his father was one of the founders of the USS, which came to be 1004 01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:27.520 obviously the CIA. So and again we I've said many times, you know, 1005 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:31.279 Jim Morrison's father was the Admiral of the USS Maddocks and I was just 1006 01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:35.159 about to say, yeah, they had his son was playing the songs and 1007 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:43.119 the helicopters as the people were going toward exactly and again the coincidence jar gets 1008 01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:46.119 too full. People. You need to pull back and realize that we're being 1009 01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:50.840 manipulated. And you know, I tell people, the biggest lie you can 1010 01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:54.640 tell your child is if they work hard enough, they'll be president, because 1011 01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:59.920 it's just not in the cards. No, unfortunately not. It's all select 1012 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:03.880 not elected. And you know, George Carlin says it best. They're in 1013 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:10.039 a club and you ain't in it. We've we've got about five minutes left. 1014 01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:12.880 Um, so if there was anything else you wanted to touch on and 1015 01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:17.279 then we'll certainly give you the final word as well. Uh no, I 1016 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.319 just I just this was amazing, George. I can't thank you enough. 1017 01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:25.600 This was something that I've been wanting to do since I first started listening to 1018 01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:29.720 your podcast, And like I said, I can't thank you for what you've 1019 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:33.079 been able to do. And um, yeah, maybe if there's a couple 1020 01:26:33.039 --> 01:26:39.119 of things that people do want to check out. John Levi was another YouTube 1021 01:26:39.199 --> 01:26:44.520 channel. There you go, my wife's favorite. He's amazing. I do 1022 01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:45.880 agree with the voice. You do have to kind of speed it up a 1023 01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:48.800 bit. It is a bit slow and daunting, but that is all right. 1024 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:53.439 That and he releases his videos on Sunday morning, and that's like you're 1025 01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:56.239 you know, you kind of get up and then you get coffee. It's 1026 01:26:56.279 --> 01:27:00.520 like we're exploring the unknown today. Come on, put it on one point 1027 01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:03.039 five speed. But he's got I mean, he's got over a quarter of 1028 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:05.840 a million followers. Two. He does a great job. I think he's 1029 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:10.359 based out a Utah. Yeah, I think so too, And I think 1030 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.760 I think he's gained a huge amount in recent times. I think Eddie Bravo 1031 01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:17.399 definitely kept on getting him shout outs as Joe Rogan was yelling at him. 1032 01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.760 Good. I'll be sure to put that in the show description too for the 1033 01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:26.199 folks. I just pulled it up. Oh wicked stuff. Um yeah, 1034 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:30.800 if there's anything else, I would suggesss people that are continuously interested with this 1035 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:39.079 Old World as I was, Um, there's another channel called Old World Florida, 1036 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:44.279 and he he does a really great job. Some of his videos are 1037 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:50.680 over an hour long, just because it's so in depth and investigatory. If 1038 01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:56.319 there was anyone that was also just as confused or in the same state that 1039 01:27:56.399 --> 01:28:01.920 I was in previously I heard you to listen to uh Megan's podcast with the 1040 01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:06.199 flat Earth Podcast or sorry, with the flat Earth Files. It was a 1041 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:11.720 tremendous help. Um again, thank you for everything and thanks for having me. 1042 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.600 I really do appreciate it. Yeah, well, thank you and UM, 1043 01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:16.640 I'm meant to just confirm with you before the podcast. Is it cool 1044 01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:20.680 we put your your email address in the show description so people if they wanted 1045 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:25.960 to reach out to you. Yeah. Absolutely. If I do have Instagram 1046 01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:33.680 also, my profile is d A N M S y D and H Yeah, 1047 01:28:33.680 --> 01:28:38.479 I feel free to reach out if anyone's curious or has any questions. 1048 01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:42.319 Could you run that by me one more time your Instagram? Yeah absolutely, 1049 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:48.840 d A N M S y D got you all right, So I got 1050 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.680 you followed and I will put that in the show description as well, so 1051 01:28:51.720 --> 01:28:58.720 you guys can click on it and go right to his ig and again his 1052 01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.000 email address will be there as well. Tremendous episode has always Thank everybody. 1053 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:06.319 This has been a lot of fun. Thanks Bernard early in the week. 1054 01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:11.720 Everybody's just been tremendous and I'm glad to hear that people are reaching out to 1055 01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:15.520 our guests and finding like minded people. And again you can go to the 1056 01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.720 flat Earth files dot com. You can jump in the chat room, or 1057 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:23.279 you can leave your thoughts in the forum, and people interact really well on 1058 01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:27.239 the website. So again, thank you to everybody. Thank you Daniel so 1059 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.079 much for joining us today. Coming up in the next few days we have 1060 01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:33.439 Kat joining us. She does a tremendous job. She's been on my other 1061 01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:39.600 podcast. And then Sunday night I'll be interviewing Kevin. That will probably drop 1062 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:43.680 midweek, probably Wednesday or Thursday. For Daniel, I am George. Thank 1063 01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:45.399 you guys for joining us today. Have a wonderful weekend, and again, 1064 01:29:45.439 --> 01:29:48.520 happy Mother's Day. God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel, 1065 01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:51.119 and until next time, my friends, we will see you.