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How you doing out there. It's
me Tigger Dark Wayne Duck. It's me

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Bunkers Deep Bobcat. All right,
y'all, didn't rate your favorite firefly you

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desire hold the old knock guy.
My name is Jim Cummings and welcome to

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tuned In. Who's gonna bring us
in? You? Hey, Jim?

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You speaking of me? Speaking of
me? Okay, I know what you're

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thinking, folks, and yes it
is time for another tuned In with Jim

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Cummings. You're in the right place. We've got producer Chris, We've got

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but wait, there's more. We've
got Barona called Hell and the crowd went

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wild. Yes she is that one, Yeah, the real one, and

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uh, this is so great.
Thank you for being here. My gosh,

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thanks for inviting me on your show. I just think you're the best

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and it's too awesome to sit here
with you. Oh that's gril bless you.

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Thank you very sweet. We meet
up all over the world and it's

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nice to be here in your living
room. Yes, I was just going

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to not say that, but thank
you, thank you sincerely for getting out

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and taking up your busy schedule.
This woman is literally all over the planet,

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right, Yeah, luckily. So
yeah, luckily so. Yes,

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do we have to tell everybody that
there was a little cartoon show that you've

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been associated with that has been struggling
by Yes, and it seems to be

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doing well. Yeah. I was
on Pokemon for the first eight years of

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the show, so I played ash
May and Ash's mom, which was very

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exciting, and a bunch of other
as we all do, a bunch of

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other characters. But because of being
on Pokemon, which was such a normal

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job amongst many other normal jobs,
No, it wasn't done well in terms

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of like when you go to work. But because of that, I've gotten

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to travel around the world. And
also, sorry about technic. If we're

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getting it transmission from the Mother Show, I hope they don't beat us up

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because we've got a lot to talk
about, that's right. But I've gotten

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to travel all over the world and
meet so many people. In fact,

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I've seen kids when they were ten
and I see them now with their children,

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and it's been I don't know,
just in that sense, the thrill

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of a lifetime and such. I
agree. Yeah, yeah, I've got

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a lot of those, I bet
you do. My gosh, very very

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sweet. Yeah, well with me, it's the I've said this before.

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The Disney Afternoon is now on Disney
Plus, I guess. And you know,

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eight year old kids will come up
dressed as dark winged Duck. And

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the show went off the air twenty
years before he was born, and you

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know, they just met Disney Plus. It's like a whole new world.

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It's amazing. But the thing is, there are certain projects, certain shows,

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certain characters that just touch people so
deeply because of I think, in

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your case, the perform that's underneath
it, but also how people learn about

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who they are through these characters or
how to be, how to connect with

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others. That we share a lot
of that in the things that we've worked

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on, and that I think is
is just lucky. I mean lucky that

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we've been able to provide a voice
or give a life to that. But

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the creators are the ones who really
just you pour your heart and soul into

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something and look what's possible. Oh
so true. Boy. That reminds me

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of something. When Harrison Ford was
interviewed on Entertainment Tonight years ago, they

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said, well, you've been involved
in these two iconic roles. You know

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Hans Solo and you know Raders that
lost are you? You're it? Blockbuster

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movies? And he goes and to
what do you contribute to that? How

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did you What is the motion where
he goes, Oh, it's just luck,

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just lucky. I mean honestly,
what else They could have hired a

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couple other dozen people, right,
you know, And so it's like,

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oh, wow, okay, so
pretty good luck he's part of that.

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Yeah, may may I we both
continue to be very lucky. Definitely.

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What do you think luck really is
though, because I've I've always held on

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to an expression that luck is being
prepared for the moment. Yeah, you

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know, you don't. You don't
accidentally fall into those like you know,

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you got to take a leap of
faith. You've got to go put yourself

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out there. You got to We
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other day, and you know,
you really got to take the chance.

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And he said, he said,
what, there's there's no guarantee of success,

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but there's a guarantee of failure if
you never try. That's true,

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right, So I feel like that
ties into being lucky. You hear it

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so much in this industry. You
know, Oh I got lucky. I

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got lucky. But really, like
you had to be prepared, you had

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to you had to audition, you
had to be in the room. You

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know, you have to show out. Yeah. Yeah, I remember having

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a not quite an argument, but
it was with a dentist, but fortunately

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he wasn't working on my teeth at
the time. Yeah. And he said,

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so, why'd you get that weird
job? How'd you do? Where'd

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you get that? And I said, well, I was very, very

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fortunate. I always knew. First
of all, I had tunnel vision.

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I knew I was going to do
this anyway. And since I was five,

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I had an audition and I went
down to this casting house. It

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was the voice caster in Los Angeles, and I read for it and I

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went home a couple of days later, and I didn't even have an agent

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yet, and they called and they
goes and they called back and they said,

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well, I have some good news. You got that job. And

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I go, wow, that's amazing, I really really And he says yeah,

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And it was for Mattel's Haunted House. I was the whole did mansion

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whatever I was, I can't remember. And he goes, well, they

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used the audition, and I went
they used it and it was only for

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a toy fair. It was one
of the toy fairs I had conventions,

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and I said, okay, well
this is the business. Yea, my

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audition first job, got it?
They used the audition Yeah check please like

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the one paying me. Yeah,
but and so here we are. It's

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amazing, but it's also somewhat disappointing
because you want to meet the people who

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cast you, or to meet the
people that are using it so that maybe

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you can network a little and get
another job. But yeah, way to

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go, man. Yeah, yeah, that's you know, no brag.

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It's just one of those weird things. I know, definitely another weird luck.

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I like to think of it as
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it's all in your suitcase, and
you've got your suitcase in hand, and

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then you just hope that the door
opens, and when it does, you're

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ready to walk through with all your
talent and your preparation packed carrying it with

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you. But you just never know
it is right place at the right time.

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Anybody could have auditioned and been there
before you and gotten the job.

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Or you know, remember in the
old days when we had pagers or answering

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service. I do. My dad
is an actor and he said they would.

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He would always call his answering service
and they would say all clear,

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Like that's a good thing that you
had no jobs or audition. Yeah,

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yeah, what are you so happy
about it? I know? But then

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in those days too, you had
to keep checking all the time because if

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you didn't call back in the right
amount of time, they'd give the audition

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or the job to someone else.
So then pagers came along so you could

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have it right there on you.
So and now we have our cell phones

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and we're locked in. Yes.
Yes, I remember pulling up the freeway

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and dying to find a payphone because
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you know. I know. I
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the swings, my pager would go
off. I'd be like, okay,

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get out of the swing, getting
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the phoney, no crazy stuff like
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a little easier. You still have
to pull off the freeway to put the

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call in. You do, yes, well some of us, yes you

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do. Yeah, ah, that's
crazy. So do you have a lot

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of work lined up for this year? I mean, yeah, I'm doing

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a lot of conventions, but fewer
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both of us were on the road
a lot lost COVID time. Yeah,

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exactly right, And it's it's like
a good will tour in a sense because

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we all need to be back together
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no when you've got opportunities to really
hug people you know and hear their stories

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and reconnect. But this year I'm
doing a few fewer and trying to clean

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my apartment and get some I do
a lot of audiobooks, so I'm stuck

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at home for these long amounts of
time when I'm recording, So having the

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weekend free is a little better for
my voice to be able to maintain the

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characters. Yes, but we have
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the road with these things, and
we have some far flung conventions in other

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countries, so we're trying to such
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Zeland, Australia, that's pretty good. We're in Manila, South Africa,

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in Cape Town. Those are just
long flights, yes, so, but

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every show is great. It's just
that from Los Angeles or New York,

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these are big flights. But people
around the world are the same. I

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think you might agree. Amazing,
wonderful, creative, just extraordinary, except

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the damn Frene. I'm kidding.
That was a funny joke. I was

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kidding. They have a different word
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they do. It's hard. Yeah, oh man, good stuff. So

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there's not a production right now,
or are they? Which with Pokemon,

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Well not for me, So we
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at season eight and replaced everyone.
They just said we don't need you anymore,

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and so we all lost our jobs
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The ash arc of the show ended
last year, so that Pokemon as it

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existed when I was on it is
no longer. But Pokemon has created a

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new show now that started. I
think it just aired on Netflix maybe a

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week ago something from this whenever you're
listening to this podcast, it started good

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as you're the one that you were
in obviously. Well I'm going to just

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say, like there is a certain
Genessee quad when you have me on your

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show, you know all Pokemon,
I don't know, it's just it gets

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to your like inner imaginative child,
and so all of Pokemon is great.

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I just like to be involved in
it, Yes, because I loved playing

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Ash. I loved his courage and
his positivity, and I just I was

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pregnant the whole first season of Pokemon, and it was really amazing to be

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a gigantically large pregnant woman playing a
ten year old boy and being able to

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leave all my cares behind, yes, even eventually as a mom of a

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toddler and on and on, to
just let it all go and just jump

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into those sneakers and just be ten. Wow. So there's something amazing about

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that. For all the characters that
we play, you can lose yourself,

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especially because it's only voice. You're
just you're in it. You're in yourself

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and you're watching the picture or just
in your imagination while you're thinking of what

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the picture will be. So there's
there's a great joy in that. It's

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hard, but there's a great joy
in it. So yeah, I missed

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being on the show for sure.
Well. I think I was almost positive

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that I was your announcer back then
at the WB kids. Think you said

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when you were you doing like Charis
Aard Oh, yes, for those WB

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those interstitials so brilliant. Yeah,
those were fun. I think you were

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well No, yeah, but it
was, Yeah, that seems like golden

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times. It was amazing and we
were in New York and on the phone

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lines to do those interstitials and they
were so funny and so I don't the

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whole thing was just amazing and for
us in New York to be working with

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La felt like this just got real. You know, we hit the big

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time. We're doing you know.
But it was just to that whole WB

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Kids w B lineup was great.
All those shows were so fun and we

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watched them even when my daughter was
little, and every Saturday morning, I

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know, I mean I was like, okay, I mean yeah, I

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know, same same. Who was
your favorite? What was they? What

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were they called? They that you
had to call up? Do you mean

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for Pokemon? Who's my favorite?
Peak? Because that's what you mean.

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Yeah, Because one that you could
throw those poke balls. Yeah, you

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just threw the poke balls and then
you could catch those things. We now

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have a lot of crocheted ones that
people have made, so we can really

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throw them around the house. That's
what I like to do, throw things

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around the house like a four year
old. But it is pretty great when

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you can, you know, you
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your house when you're a grown up. A lot to look forward. Try

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that at home, kids, Please
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tree that you went? Does it? Teacher? Just prior to voice acting

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that, I was a teacher.
No, I've always much like Jim,

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which I just found out. I
wanted to be an actor since I was

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five. I was in my first
play and I decided mid play that this

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is what I'm going to do.
I was playing Goldilocks, and you know

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the part where the chair breaks,
and I remember thinking, hold for the

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life, laugh, and then I
thought this is what I want to do

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this and then that was it.
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first grade show. And I was
always an actor. Actually, I did

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waiter and I did a lot of
cater waitering in New York. Because the

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schedule was flexible. I toured a
lot around the country with acting companies,

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uh like Broadway shows off I did
well. The first one was a non

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union touring company called National Players that
my parents toured with, and I toured

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for the fortieth and forty first tours
and the second year I was company manager.

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We did classical and contemporary, so
we did Midsummer. The first year

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we did Midsummer and hold On,
I'm getting much to do about nothing,

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an animal Farm. And the second
year we did Midsummer Night's Dream and Nicholas

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Nickleby Yeah, and then I in
a short We did a shortened so for

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the we did real theaters, big
beautiful theaters. We did schools, colleges,

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and we always had the full version
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schools, so that we had to
do both, and we ran all of

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the lights and sound ourselves. We
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down before and after every show.
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totally. It was very hard work
and the best, one of the best

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jobs I've ever had. But it
teaches you how to get along, how

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to work really really work together.
Plus you've got to focus because you've got

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to remember which version of the show
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with Children's Theater for Theater Works USA
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few tours and a few like last
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Here's the script learned in the van
as You're going together problem. Some

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of that stuff had to be easy. It was crazy, just crazy stuff

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that scares me. To hear it. Yeah, it was amazing. But

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to be able to just jump in, I mean that's what acting is too.

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You have to jump in and really
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you know. Anyway, So no, I wasn't a teacher, but I've

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taught people many things you have.
But I always like to ask people if

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they have words of wisdom for those
who would like to follow in your footsteps.

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Yeah. I think, first of
all, what my first main amazing

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acting teacher, mister Graham said,
if there is anything you want to do

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more than being an actor, do
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are high, but there are many
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And the amount of time you spend
looking for work does not always equal the

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amount of time you are working.
So it's pretty down to earth practical.

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so that you can really throw yourself
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the way to go, at least
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a master's in an MFA in acting, and I think that training to use

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your instrument is is very worthwhile you
can teach, you can you can kind

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of say yes to any job that
comes your way, which you have to

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do because you don't know when the
next one will come. So I think

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that's probably the words of wisdom.
Get a good demo tape tape MP three,

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whatever we say now, yeah,
do they Yeah? Do they do?

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We still have those? Yeah?
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I've heard something similar, just building
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it's like, the only the only
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in your craft. You can't control
getting cast, you can't control auditions,

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you can't control what the director directs
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as an actor is how much time
you put into your craft, how well

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you own your instrument, that's right, how finely tuned it is. But

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that is true because you and even
then you're like, oh gosh, could

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I have done it better? Or
give me one more take, or you

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know, you're always trying to be
as good as you can be, as

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be your best really as they say, but yeah, you you challenge yourself

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and then you hope that what you're
doing is will get you cast in something

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else. Yeah, knock one that
totally or whatever. It's your furniture,

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it is love it, love what
you've done with it. I have a

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question for you, Veronica. When
they decided to change the cast for Pokemon,

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was there any like indication that that's
what they were going to be doing

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or was it just complete shock,
complete shock, complete shock? How did

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that feel? Oh? I don't
think I'm over it still, all these

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years later. The we we had
been getting ready to do the tenth anniversary

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special, even though it wasn't quite
ten years in America, and we'd been

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getting ready for that, and then
you know, this season was coming to

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an end, and then we were
told that it was ending then and we

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were all being replaced and that it
was it was just over. So yeah,

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there wasn't much there was no ability
to move on with the show or

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I don't know, it was pretty
crushing obviously. Who was the production company?

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Who was for Kids for Kids for
Kids Productions? Yeah, they did

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Pokemon, Yugi Oh Winks Club,
Shaman King? Is that under Warner Brothers.

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time slot. So that's how it
all kind of came together. But they

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produced the show, they acquired them
whatever the real terminology is from Japan and

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then dubbed it and then put it
on the air. Gotcha, So I

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think in the beginning, like in
the very beginning, Pokemon was the first

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show that they launched for kids,
and it was on Crazy stations at six

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in the morning, then six thirty
in the morning, and then it kind

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of slid into the WB kind of
gang. They weren't affiliated, but we

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were clumped together. Have you ever
met your replacement? I have. I've

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seen some of the people who work
on the show. I know we've probably

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worked on shows together, but because
with dubbing, you never see who's working

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on it, so we all don't
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it's such a weird thing. I
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I don't know what story they got
when, and I've not asked anyone

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because I don't. It doesn't really
matter. But it's a very odd thing

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to have an audition for a show
that's currently on the air and knowing that

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you're replacing people, but wondering why. And this is kind of pre It

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was two thousand and six, so
there wasn't a lot of internet stuff,

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so nowadays we could have a big
petition or people could say keep our actors

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on air or whatever. But then
who knows why they auditioned or you know

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whatever. It's a job. So
but it doesn't really have anything to do

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with me so much. It's just
the sadness. Thanks for bringing it up.

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By the way, Jim had a
similar experience with the Christopher Robin film.

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You know he was when but then
they hired somebody else to play Tiga,

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even though you had Tika in the
room. M Yeah, that was

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interesting. I remember, Oh,
the real Ticke is better than this new

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Tika. We'll just get the old
ticket, of course, because you're only

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copying someone. And it's different when
you're taking over the role because the actor

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no longer can do it or you're
passing the baton. That's a very different

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situation. Yeah, very much.
But I remember you telling me that story

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about Christopher Robin movie, and I
just was so upset about it, but

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lucky that it turned out okay.
Do you know what I mean? Because

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very often it's all about big names
and not about the quality. Not that

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big name people don't do qual do
you work. But I'm saying, when

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you've got something Williams, that's right, that's right, or you Jim coming.

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Well, there you go. But
but you work at something for so

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long and people know your voice,
know that it's more than just this,

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it's it's the part coming out,
yes, and so it's hard to kind

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of copy that right away. And
so it's Yeah, it's really great that

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they wised up for that, because
that would have been a travesty. I

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couldn't agree more. Yeah, I
mean that movie was beautiful. It was

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so beautiful and so perfect, and
it really had a lot to do with

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you. I would say I would
say eighty percent. Well that's the number.

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I mean, it was called Christopher
Robin, but it was really like

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Winnie the Pooh and friend and what's
his name? Yeah, and that guy

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the kid. Okay, well that's
it. I'm happy. Now we can

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shut down. That's that is how
I really feel. Thank you very much.

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I've held back telling you, hoping
you create a podcast so I can

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see it makes makes sense to do
it. It does really in this room

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would soundproofing mm hm, that way, no one can no one can hear

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that's right, or like you're passing
me the money. Here's another five,

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here's another five, here's the plan. Yeah, yeah, oh man,

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you are funny. Oh well,
that's good stuff. You mentioned earlier that

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you do audio books. I'm curious
what the difference and approaches between voice acting

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and audiobooks. Are you still playing
a character technically when you're reading an audiobook

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or can you describe that? Yeah, so I think it's it's completely different

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and yet the same. So when
you are doing a cartoon, you kind

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of know the character. You look
through the script if you get it ahead,

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and you you kind of know who
you're playing, and you're ready to

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jump in and do another character if
they ask, and kind of off the

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top of your head. For audio
books, you have to read the book.

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You have to read the whole book, and you have to for in

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my case, I mark down all
of the characters and then kind of figure

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out It's like a vocal quilt in
a way. You figure out the pattern

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where if there's five girl voices who
are girls, and then maybe two women,

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you have to figure out where their
voices will fit together, who has

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the most lines, so where is
that voice going to sit? And then

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I build around that, and then
I build all the characters kind of around

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if there's a narrator or a main
character, and then you build out.

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So I do some books. I'm
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Now I need snacks. I'm like
winning the Pooh, my god,

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have you got a rumblayer? Your
tomblayer? Oh? Yeah, I do?

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Actually I need snacks. What do
we have there? Nothing? I'll

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be fine, but too much attention, I do? Do you have honey?

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Yeah? So I have one author
that I'm on the sixteenth book coming

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up. So those characters have been
in every book and sixteen. It's a

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lot. Some of them are short
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sixteen but I started in two thousand
and eight and I'm about to start recording

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the next one now. But I
do have to go back and listen and

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just refresh my ear on what they
all sound like. I have notes about

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everybody, but I just like to
hear it so I can really dial in.

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And then other ones I do.
That's Linda Castillo. She's an amazing

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author. They're amish murder mysteries.
And then I have another author, Mary

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Kay Andrews, and she does a
beach read kind of book every year,

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and those are always different characters,
but just amazing writing also, so I

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don't have to look back to anything
or listen back. I just forge forward.

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So I've never listened to an audiobook, so I'm ignorant. Give me

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on this. But when you're listening
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voice? Oh? Yeah, that's
the other part of your question. Most

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of the time, if you're doing
like most of the books I do are

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just me reading, and then there's
other ones that are a group record where

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you have I was just nominated for
a book. We did a Jedi Star

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Wars book that was a whole group
of people, and so that you go

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in and you just record your lines, and usually you do need a director

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for that because to pull it all
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and then pop back and forth to
all the characters. And now days we're

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recording mostly from home, so now
I'm also engineering that and directing myself,

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and it gets really technical, and
then you're in for If the book is

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eight hours, you figure it's about
sixteen hours in the booth and then plus

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the reading of it and then pickups. So it's long, wow, but

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very enjoyable. I love to tell
the story of having that control. I

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suppose to kind of weave weave the
story and get the tempo. It's slow

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here, it's faster here. It's
kind of so you really especially for a

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murder mystery, there's times when they're
just running through the woods and then they

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fall in the water and they're coming
up for air and you've got to really

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drive that and then you can sit
back afterwards when they're in the ambulance kind

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of take a minute, you know, like that kind of stuff. That's

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so cool. It's really great.
It's really hard work. Okay, yeah,

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I would think I've done something sort
of like that. I did Hondo

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and Knaka my Star Wars Clone Wars. Guy did this big I don't even

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know what you would call it,
but it was a audio video adventure and

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it was came in the book form
and it was really cool. Well,

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you know, it was really really
interesting. I don't know, you know

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where when or where it is now, but it's out there. And were

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you popping in and just doing your
voice for that, and well, no,

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it was it was kind of like
Hondo was the narrator and then he

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was in it. Oh oh,
and you were in the room with you.

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Yeah, that's really great. Yeah, it was kind of cool.

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Well I was him, so you
know. I mean, so I was

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definitely in the room with it,
and then I went over, but there

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was something wrong. And then then
or Not said what are you doing?

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And I said, well, obviously
write, you know, And it was

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sort of like that, Yeah,
you know, just bad acting one on

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one that seems good. That's why
I was so good at it. I'm

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into the story. I could like
switch to that. Now you want to

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make it up and just tell us
more, Okay, I'll yes, I'll

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hallucinate more for you. Yes,
well, that is a lot of our

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job is hallucinating, really seeing it
in your mind and then kind of bringing

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it out in your voice. Yes, I mean you have to picture it

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to kind of make it real,
and you have to be able to keep

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your eyes open to look at the
script while you're picturing it. Well,

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I projected on the inside of my
foe and then I just read it off,

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mad it off from in there.
H I can't. You're just like,

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uh, let me see, wait
what page are you? Yeah,

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I'm there. I realized that I
do a lot of snoring, or when

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the character has to snore something,
I always close my eyes and you can't

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read while your eyes are closed,
so I'm like, yes, I'll be

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right there like this. I don't
know why I have to go Yeah,

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that's right most of the time.
Every now and then, yeah, yeah,

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I won't bore you with this,
but it's too late. I probably

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have the longest snore on any you
do. I didn't know there was something

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in the running for that, something
a Disney show that I'm pretty sure was

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never put out there. It was
going to be sort of like a book

409
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:51.960
on tape thing speaking of which and
that the powers that be Michael Eisner left

410
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.640
and his pet projects went away,
but it was too late. They had

411
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.519
already paid me. And then many
people listen to it and then just on

412
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.319
the floor asleep. Is that?
Yes, that's true, that's very Do

413
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:11.000
you go there's there's like a you
can go up here or yeah, I'm

414
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.160
a nose guy. Are you okay? That's what I was wondering. I

415
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.759
think, well, I think I'm
in between. See I close my eyes

416
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.599
then too, you're ambidextrous. Yeah, it depends on what the character looks

417
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.519
like and who they are, their
physical makeup. Like a tiny fairy would

418
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:36.640
be like you know, maybe there
and like a giant rhinoceros in a in

419
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.119
a to two, for instance,
or hippo that's a you know kind of

420
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.559
that's really here. It's all over
the place. People are different and we're

421
00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:51.640
the same. Yeah, that's right. I always like it. I always

422
00:30:51.680 --> 00:31:00.359
like it when there's a little bitty
guy, you know, I I just

423
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.400
that's not quite it. No,
no thanks. Then there's always one guy

424
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.880
that I don't know. That's not
bad. Can we use it somewhere else?

425
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.119
Yeah, let's keep it. This
is you're like, oh, yeah,

426
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:17.480
that's right. I guess let's go
over here high boys. Now,

427
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.240
has anybody ever asked you to do
any other male characters? Said Jim curiously.

428
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.839
Yeah, well in audiobooks, I
do a lot of them. I

429
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.039
do. I was in Max and
Dinosaur King, whose voice is similar to

430
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.720
Ash. Yeah. I do play
a lot of boys. Actually I do,

431
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:40.640
interestingly enough, and perhaps not.
It's a phrase you don't hear A

432
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.279
lot of boys. Do a lot
of boys? Like a like a violin?

433
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.640
I see how I'm like skirting that
the uh the I do a lot

434
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.359
of English as a second language.
So there are audio workbooks teaching people in

435
00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:00.039
different countries. What's your first language? It's hard to tell, isn't it?

436
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.880
I'll speak real good here. Yeah, and I teach others how to

437
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.720
do it too. There you go. But I do a lot of boy

438
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:13.039
voices for that also. Okay,
so I'm the go to boy voice Canadian

439
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:16.559
voice, New Zealand or Australia voice
or like something like that when they when

440
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:21.720
they need accents Britishy, britishy whatever, you can do a Canadian accent.

441
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.000
Well, yeah, of course,
because you know, if you forgot about

442
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.799
how to do it, you just
kind of have to. I want to

443
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:32.240
hear it. That's it, man, that was it. That was disible

444
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:37.000
time. He wait, can you
do it? Can you? You're like

445
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:44.119
it's like I am standing up,
you know that, Like you have to

446
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.480
just like it has to be wider. It's not curious because I'm Canadian.

447
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.400
I'm commadient. Oh yeah, no, you'd have to dislike it's kind of

448
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:57.000
to do it charactery. You there's
not much of a difference. But it's

449
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.559
that forgot about it. It's kind
of you know, oh yeah, oh

450
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.319
god, we were there. It's
kind of coming into the Midwestern You gotta

451
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.519
like give me a script. Man, I'm not gonna improv anymore with you.

452
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.559
What's the what's the key for Australian
accent, then what's the key for

453
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.319
that? Well, I will say
right now, because you're here in the

454
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.160
room, my my New Zealand and
Australia merge together often and sometimes people don't

455
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:28.160
know the difference, so please please
forgive me. But I would say,

456
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:37.200
if you're if you're beckon heat,
if you get like this literal to kind

457
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.680
of go there, you know,
that's pretty good in a scene. You

458
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:47.119
know, Kina, you know,
what are you faking yours? I feel

459
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.759
like New Zealand they do the chips
fish and where where fish and chips?

460
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.839
It sounds different to me, probably
sounds exactly the same, Crispa, No,

461
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.000
no, no, you don't at
all. It's just that in my

462
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.920
reenact acting it, I'm not specific
enough because it's that like fashion chops going

463
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.920
there, you know, sweet as
yeah kind of, but there's there's like

464
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:14.440
a if you if you really were
going to character it like New Zealand could

465
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.159
be you know, much more here, you know, Connor, and then

466
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:27.559
you can get your assie more front, you know, Connor, I should

467
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.199
be there. I would be better
there right now in awe. I'm just

468
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:35.400
like, I mean, all watching
you guys, I mean watch you guys

469
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:40.639
talking Ara about snoring. It was
just fascinating. The thing is, we

470
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.519
don't get that much time to chat
really, so I could just talk about

471
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:49.320
jobs you've done for your whole life. So like, what else you would

472
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.159
we want to talk about you about? Yeah, let's not do that a

473
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:59.800
lot. Okay, I was a
dickhead on a riverboat there. People know

474
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:06.360
that dick can't it? Well,
what I it's kind of be It wasn't

475
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.039
a deckhead you were? You were
you were working on a deck, yes,

476
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:15.599
like a deck of a ship.
Did you did you have to scrub?

477
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.599
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you you do. I see

478
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.440
yeah, assault you have to get
the salt off. I see salts everywhere.

479
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.039
Yeah, barnacles and salts. Well, hopefully there are no barnacles because

480
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.760
you've scrubbed it. Article bill or
sailor. No, it's I'm just leading

481
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.480
into things for you. Yeah,
thank you. You just pitching out catch.

482
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:39.800
Yeah, that's good. You mentioning
earlier veronicoback getting paid for gigs.

483
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:44.920
Can you remember the first time you
got the call for the ash gig?

484
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.559
Did you have any idea what Pokemon
was? Did they know it was going

485
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:49.880
to be a big deal. Was
it pitch to you as you've got to

486
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.119
do this, this is going to
be huge, or oh no, gosh,

487
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.480
no, we did. They did
say that it was going to go

488
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:59.320
on television, and none of us
really believed it. I've done other anime

489
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:04.400
before, so I really believed that. Yeah, nobody. Where would it

490
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.840
be? Yeah, just like wherever
other anime was the radio, No it

491
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.960
would, that's true. I don't
I don't know. Other things just went

492
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.199
to VHS tape, you know,
wasn't big. Anime wasn't big until Pikemon

493
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.519
Dragon Balls eight year. That's right, that was nineteen ninety eight. And

494
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:28.519
so we it aired in America in
September of ninety eight, and we auditioned

495
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:36.519
in April something or February, March, April something like that, and I

496
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.440
probably could look at my calendar and
know, but we it was just an

497
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:46.440
audition. We watched a clip of
the cartoon, and then they wanted our

498
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:52.639
voices to get as close as possible
to the original actors, and then I

499
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.679
suppose mine was the closest, and
we had a lot of callbacks, and

500
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.440
then finally we started working on the
first episode, and we redid it many

501
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.719
times because they kept changing things and
tweaking it, and then off we went,

502
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:12.440
and then it aired in September,
and then the rest was history.

503
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.639
We had like three months off and
then found out that we had a second

504
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.280
season and then we went. So
it was not glamorous at all. It

505
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.920
was just, you know, a
job that you went to while none of

506
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:30.400
us that was never our only job, so we just I think I probably

507
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:35.000
did get a call. Actually I
would have gotten the call to my service

508
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.760
and then I would have called them
back from the payphone because I was doing

509
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.480
a show, a play in Massachusetts
at the time, so I was going

510
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.440
up there and then having to come
back an audition and then go back up

511
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.079
for the show. Yeah. And
I was working on a soap at the

512
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.199
same time too, for Another World, Another World, Yeah, oddly.

513
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.639
Still, yeah, I think I
think that one's ended. Oh actually,

514
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.760
but that was in New York and
they filmed. They didn't film it there.

515
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.440
What did they do? Then it's
on tape, so it was called

516
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:14.519
not filming. But they shot it
in the same building that Esther Williams did

517
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.960
a lot of swimming in the pool
that they you know those all that great

518
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.920
swimming synchronized chilosophy that apparently was in
the pool in the basement. The pool

519
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.119
was in the basement of the building
where the soap was filmed. Wow,

520
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.760
that's kind of cool. Yeah,
that is kind of cool. Yeah.

521
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.000
I never saw that. Yeah,
anyway, so all those things kind of

522
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:38.119
came together. And and because of
having this job and a child, I

523
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:43.039
didn't have to cater waiter anymore.
So I stopped doing that. Probably in

524
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.360
maybe uh September, I came out. Okay, I couldn't fit in my

525
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:54.599
tucks anymore, right, my stomach
was too big. Child. Wow,

526
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.480
well it worked out great. Look
at she's awesome. I know, she's

527
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:04.400
Yeah, greatest job I've ever had, the longest job, actually, I

528
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.880
mean that's the whole thing. Pokemon
for eight years is still the longest,

529
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.239
other than being a mom, the
longest job I've ever had. Wow.

530
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.119
So it's pretty amazing. That is
so damn cool. And boy that you

531
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.519
know, did you realize Pokemon was
going to be a phenomenon? I would

532
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.639
yeah, I would say. We
were living in New York, so you

533
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:28.440
could see kids playing with their Pokemon
cards on the subway or on the bus,

534
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.400
and so I was like, this
is interesting that they know that that's

535
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.079
a sign. Yes. And then
there was a store down the street from

536
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.039
one of the studios we worked in
that was selling these rings with Pokemon on

537
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.039
them, and I would go in
and I was like, you know,

538
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:50.639
you may want to order more still
of those rings. I should wear them.

539
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.199
But I did get to go to
the opening of the movie, the

540
00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:00.559
first movie I flew to La and
Reno was with me for that, my

541
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.119
daughter, and that was really cool
to walk on the red carpet. Not

542
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.599
that anyone knew who I was or
why I was there. There was no

543
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:15.320
interviews or anything, but to be
there and to see all that the theater

544
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.800
filled. It's hard when you have
a movie for kids. I do remember

545
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:23.440
going to that, and also to
the premiere in New York, and it

546
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.280
looked pretty much like the movie.
Theater was empty. But then you realize

547
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:32.039
that most of the kids their heads
don't the seat. Yeah, it was

548
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:37.679
fat, that's so cute. It
was adorable. Anyway, That's when I

549
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:44.280
figured this thing's got legs. Uh
huh oh yeah yeah yeah. And now

550
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.280
those kids are bringing their kids.
Yeah, it's just love. It's a

551
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.559
dream, isn't it. Yeah,
I really do, Like I don't know

552
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.000
why. I got such a kick
out of that. I know me too.

553
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.400
It's so incredibly special. I like
to say, you know, like

554
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.280
we've been in your living room and
now you're in a sense in ours at

555
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:06.199
our tables at conventions and getting to
really meet them and we know each other

556
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:10.000
already. Yeah, but here we
get to hug and I'm sure that you

557
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:19.559
get you know, the criers that
they'll come up and they'll just it's just

558
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.599
amazing how it's just it's so sweet. Yeah, and it's overwhelming. Yeah,

559
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.320
it's just overwhelming. I met Starsky
Hutch and Huggy Bear and I almost

560
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.039
cried. It was just so I
was like I used to watch on TV

561
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:39.159
and then I just that kind of
stuff is so cool, so so amazingly

562
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:45.960
cool. Yeah. Well, I
if I can kind of remember where Paul

563
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.400
Michael Klaser lives because his kid in
mind went, you mean we could like

564
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.000
drive by the well, I could
tell you where it is and then run

565
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:57.840
like, hell, okay, all
right, probably probably do that. That

566
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.159
would work, Okay, I would
be up for no. No, Well,

567
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:05.960
maybe I'll just borrow someone's dog and
walk it past the house so I

568
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.320
can just it's not me, it's
the dog. I'll clean up. Yeah,

569
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:12.360
yeah, yeah, you have.
I met you. I like you

570
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:17.679
said that. It's not me,
it's the dog. It wasn't her,

571
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.239
it was the Okay, I peed
on the tree. Okay, fine,

572
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.519
fine, I do that. I'm
marking my territory so I can find my

573
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:35.119
way back. Yes, yeah,
that's horrible. Yeah, run across the

574
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.880
car and jump on it. Or
that's true. Dukes of Hazzard, that's

575
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.480
dukes of hazard. I'm so embarrassed
right now. No, no, they're

576
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.559
all the same. They used to
do that too. They'd slide across husky

577
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:49.719
and starch dukes, did they because
they were police? They were a big

578
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:54.480
time Well sure, yeah, that's
what you do. That's what you do.

579
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.840
How did we get here? I
don't know, actually, but I

580
00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.639
know where we're going, getting back
to the book. Pokemon cards because they

581
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.800
were Chris can I agree to this. That was the biggest thing in the

582
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.280
world, Pokemon cards in ninety eight
through two thousand, biggest. But when

583
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:16.239
anything, well, people have given
me a lot of things. I don't

584
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:22.920
collect a lot of stuff like Pokemon
related things, but I do have cards.

585
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.239
We live in a small apartment,
so we can't have much more.

586
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.880
We've got us and our books,
and we've got a lot of books,

587
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:34.840
collected books. I love old books, like pre nineteen hundred or cookbooks that

588
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:42.920
are really old. There's a lot
of these like homemaker housekeeper type books where

589
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.599
the cookbook tells you how to do
your budget, how to buy the best

590
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.199
cut of meat if you're on a
budget, how to cook it, how

591
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:57.039
to serve more people, and they're
so they just had so much information that

592
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.119
I collect those and then I could
keep my place with a Pokemon card maybe,

593
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:06.239
but we have a lot of crazy
Pikachu things that people have given us

594
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:09.719
and things that they've made, drawings
that people have made, stories that they've

595
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:14.360
written. It's just incredible. Yeah. So I kind of try to figure

596
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.320
out where to put that in the
apartment in like you know, and still

597
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.400
be able to walk through it.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know.

598
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:25.719
I'm a bit of a I'm an
apprentice hoarder. Yes, well, it's

599
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:30.400
it's it's a lot of stuff out
there. There is And also if my

600
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.559
if I could have a museum,
I could put a lot of this stuff

601
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.079
in there and then free up my
that's true, that would be kind of

602
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.159
better. It's not a hoarding.
It's just keeping it so it doesn't go

603
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:43.920
to the trash bin. So many
people throw valuable things out rather than giving

604
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.159
it away. Asked Jim about his
comics. Oh, oh, really,

605
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:51.760
you have a lot, my dearest
mom. Yeah, I remember, well.

606
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.719
I had the first fantastic for,
first Spider Man, first Avengers,

607
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.639
first Hulk, first Iron Man.
I could picture these in my head.

608
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.559
I can see them. And the
first Spider Man wasn't even Spider Man.

609
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.079
It was amazing, amazing tales,
I think it was. And he's swinging

610
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:13.280
across and I had moved out.
I was nineteen. I moved out,

611
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.280
and I was back home visiting,
and maybe I was like twenty four,

612
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:21.360
maybe twenty three, twenty four,
And I went up to the attic and

613
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.800
you had to shove a cabinet out
of the way, then open a door,

614
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:29.519
then crawl up there. And I
couldn't see them, and I had

615
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:36.039
like four or five boxes of first
number one still in. I got to

616
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.559
believe that we were in great condition. Yeah, you know Spider Man,

617
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.559
like I said, fantasts for.
And I go, mom, I can't

618
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:46.119
find any of my old coming.
Oh don't worry, hon, I gave

619
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.639
him to the garage sailt down by
church. Oh god, that has to

620
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.880
be over a year or so ago, they said they did real well,

621
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.840
oh no, but she had to
crawl all the way up there to get

622
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:02.679
them out. Even horrible, I
said, Mom, I was gonna come

623
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:08.119
and catch him in and buy you
a house. Yeah. I don't need

624
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.000
that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, she probably would. I bought it

625
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:19.519
one anyway. Yeah. Yeah,
I know. They're all very horrible things

626
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.599
in life. Okay, there's horrible
things in life. But to come back

627
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.920
to look for something like that,
especially comic books. So many parents have

628
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.679
thrown out people's comic books. Well, yeah, and whenever I go to

629
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:36.639
a convention, I'll always hit up
the comic book places and and I just

630
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.000
always get the oldest ones that are
falling apart and you can't read them,

631
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.400
and they're all brown pages now.
And Joe Wheder is still in there,

632
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:50.679
make a man out of you with
the kicking sand and yeah, with the

633
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:54.440
kicking sand. Yeah, and he
looks like a slob by today's standards.

634
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.599
I go, yeah, but I
almost look like that, so shut up.

635
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:04.079
Yeah, what do you get a
hold of yourself? Okay, nice

636
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:10.400
tiger, Oh that little or Jaguar
whatever it is, but probably yeah,

637
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:19.400
it could be. It was spotted
tear along the dotted lion. Keep it

638
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:24.000
on, keep it on. Yeah, that's all right. God, I'm

639
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:30.199
old. Maybe your world traveled.
That's that's road hard and put up wet.

640
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.039
Is that the expression you're looking for? It wasn't, but I'm going

641
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:42.440
to use it from now on.
Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I

642
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:47.239
think it came from New York maybe
or not, or like it's it sounds

643
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.440
like it's one of those things that
you have in your car that you put

644
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.880
your feet on, but then you
can take it out and clean it.

645
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:58.480
Oh, weather guard weather road hard
and put up wet because you've got to

646
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.599
clean it. I'm just gonna don't
know where yours came from, but I'm

647
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:06.079
always trying to steer it into something
we call and listen to make money on.

648
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.599
Right. So that's it. So
we don't have big collections, either

649
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.360
of us, but we have a
lot of stuff we've I think we've come

650
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.400
to that conclusion. And well,
you know what I do is I buy

651
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:25.519
a lot of junk of stuff because
Pooh and Tigger, there's every single possible

652
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.559
thing you can imagine. And then
I'll autograph them and then I figure when

653
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:35.360
I'm gone, the gang can sell
them off. Hey that's good because it's

654
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.639
got to be more expensive when I'm
dead. Yes, hold it, hold

655
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.840
on to hold on to it till
then. So that's that's a good idea.

656
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:44.519
Yeah, I mean, I really
actually, I mean I do that

657
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.880
on purpose. That's a good idea. I've got to tell so many people

658
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:52.559
that don't tell them where you keep
the stuff. Yeah, yet it's not

659
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.800
my house, not in your house, not anywhere near me. Yeah,

660
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:00.559
it's not. It's not in that
back And I haven't said that much.

661
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:07.199
I still have they're all empty,
empty or clean. I didn't. I

662
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:14.159
think it's all so yeah, so
it's all in good time. I'll be

663
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:19.039
busy on my deathbed. A oh
yeah, the the U. By then

664
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.760
they'll have a robot arm that you
can just have, but you can have

665
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:28.760
the photo of your hand fingers on
the magic. This is jolly stuff.

666
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.000
Speaking of which, when am I
going to see you again? Who knows?

667
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.760
Yeah, I don't know. I'm
working. I'm a guest at a

668
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.559
film festival in the Blue Water Film
Festival next week, so we're kind of

669
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:46.239
in San Diego, La Joya O
that and then fancy I know. And

670
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:51.719
then my daughter and I have a
podcast also when we're doing the podcast movement,

671
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.440
that kind of convention things, we're
doing that for a bit. That's

672
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:59.159
cool. Yeah, so you know, stuff is keeping me in Los Angeles

673
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:04.039
a little bit. We'll tell everybody
the name oh ours is called The Trainer's

674
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:08.480
Guide, and it is basically you
can guess it's about Pokemon. It's related

675
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:15.320
to Pokemon in that the fact that
Rena only heard Ash's lines through my stomach

676
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.679
for the whole first season. We're
now watching the episodes together and then so

677
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.119
we take it episode each episode one
at a time and kind of talk about

678
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:30.199
what happened since you can't legally show
it, and so we talk about it,

679
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.440
and then we talk about lessons learned
and some other stories and kind of

680
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.840
how it relates to things that are
happening nowadays, things like that. And

681
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:38.519
she'll say that the first time I
heard that, it was more like,

682
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.519
yeah, this sounds different. I
did think though, when she was born,

683
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:51.559
I'd be like, hey, little
baby, I to see if she'd

684
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.679
look up. She did she did, Yeah, Well I did that with

685
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:59.679
my kids. I would yeah,
I would tell them things that with pooh

686
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:04.239
and take. Yes, it's so
cute, and they turned out great often,

687
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.599
But the important thing is that I
gave it a shot. Did you

688
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.360
tried your best? I tried my
best. This has to be a good

689
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.280
one. It was your dad winning
a poop? What I know? What

690
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.239
do you want? You know?
You should be good to go now,

691
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.840
No, no guarantees. I used
to read in different accents because I wanted

692
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.559
it to be kind of a bridge
into my daughter learning other languages. So

693
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.880
that was she'd be able to understand
people. So I would read and I

694
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.320
have different books where a different accent
each one. Oh wow, so like

695
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.800
guess how much I love you?
I did an Irish accent like whatever,

696
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.719
And now she can speak Celtics.
She has Actually she has an amazing ear.

697
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.599
She can hear a song once and
sing it note for note. Wow.

698
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.960
I'm going to say that's because I
read to her. That's really good.

699
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.599
It is. It is amazing.
Actually she did come out this way.

700
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:06.679
But I hope that small things I
did helped it along. Hopefully,

701
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.320
I don't know. You never know. Yeah, perfect pitch screaming, She

702
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.760
did scream a bit, as you
know, kids, all kids cry yes,

703
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.400
but she cried on in key.
She did cry Okay, can you

704
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:27.119
do that in a a flat the
sharp, I would imagine minor keys,

705
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:32.199
minor you know, the minor keys. I noticed. I remember thinking this

706
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:37.519
the other day because there's this one
TV channel that has all old Westerns on

707
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.920
it, and I remember the first
time, this is wow, this is

708
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.119
some random stuff here. But the
Rifleman. There was Cowboy Show and uh

709
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:51.880
when when the theme song would come
on, it was bow down, Down,

710
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:57.039
down down, very jaunty, major
key. But whenever the bad guy

711
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:01.199
was sneaking around the barn and might
get the get the drop on the riflement,

712
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:09.840
the theme song would play boom boom
boom boom boom boom, same song,

713
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.760
minor key, slowed down, instant
funeral. Yeah, felt like it,

714
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.360
you know. So it's amazing.
And so many shows do that.

715
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.159
They use the theme song in different
ways, just like that. That show

716
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:27.639
might still be on TV now it
is. Yeah, I think I've seen

717
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.519
it or come upon it, but
I don't know the song off the top

718
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.280
of my head. So you're amazing. Yeah, well there you go.

719
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.639
See still more things. But you're
amazing because oh yeah, no you are,

720
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.920
no, no, no, no, it's you. Well it's your

721
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.079
show, so you're the star.
Well we'll call it us then, okay,

722
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.239
just for now, all right,
just for today on our show,

723
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:53.440
we are and did we tell everybody
where they can find Oh, it's the

724
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:59.400
Trainer's Guide. It's everywhere you find
your podcasts. So and we do once

725
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.760
a week. It come out on
Wednesdays, and yeah, it's super fun.

726
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.960
We ask people to write in and
send either something written or a recording

727
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.719
of their favorite memories. They could
send checks. I mean we can take

728
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.199
that. We won't give you an
address, so but we'll take checks.

729
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:17.599
Okay, but that way. It's
Pokemon is about the community, and our

730
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.920
podcast is for the community, so
we want people to be involved in it

731
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:28.199
and send in their memories. Of
course, it's been amazing, amazing to

732
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:32.559
read them, but more so the
recordings are so special. It's been fantastic.

733
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.639
So we're halfway through the first season. We have fifty two episodes.

734
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.360
Wow to get through. Was it
the first time you'd revisited the series since

735
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:45.559
you've been on it? Yes?
Actually, yeah, it's been crazy.

736
00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:50.119
The show, I'm going to say, so funny, The writing was so

737
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.280
good, and they're all these kind
of old corny vaudeville kind of jokes,

738
00:54:53.280 --> 00:55:00.880
classic classic humor that really hold up. It's been fantastic. The animation is

739
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:05.360
simple, it's you know, the
stories. Some of them are kind of

740
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.320
kooky or you know whatever, cartoons
are weird, and yet this one is.

741
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:14.599
You can really see the friendships building. And I'm having such a great

742
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.039
time. I will be quite honest. When we started watching it again,

743
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.840
I was like, I don't think
I can do this. I'm not interested

744
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.559
in rewatching myself or whatever, but
I'm really I look forward to it every

745
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:30.159
week. So it's been great nice
Yeah, and rightly so. Yeah,

746
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:31.880
and even Rena seems to like it
and she still likes me, so it's

747
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:36.239
working out. Always a good sight. Yeah, I mean we're halfway through,

748
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.159
so we'll see. Yeah, we
either cool mom my mom? Was

749
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:45.119
my mom is ash? Were you
the cool mom? Yeah? Well I

750
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.000
would say no, but I would
go on a lot of field trips and

751
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:52.760
things, so I knew a lot
of Rena's classmates for that, but they

752
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:57.679
didn't really care about what I did
for a living. It's just what I

753
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.760
was doing in the moment, because
honestly, no kid really cares about anything

754
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.440
other than themselves because and rightly so, when you're a child, you have

755
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:12.679
the luxury of just being in the
moment and wanting to be heard, and

756
00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:16.239
I had the luxury of being able
to listen. So in that sense that

757
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.199
could make me cool, I guess, but really it just makes you a

758
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:24.159
better human And really I became a
better person from being on those field trips.

759
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.559
Those kids were all so great,
just the same as now at these

760
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.000
conventions, like hearing the stories of
what people went through or how they found

761
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:36.840
their best friend and all that stuff. It's just to be able to listen

762
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:42.800
to that's it really is an honor. So yeah, so for that there

763
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.760
was I was never even my daughter
tried to tell people, you know,

764
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:47.840
my mom's ash and they're like okay, and then back to whatever they were

765
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.760
doing. So yeah, well no
they didn't do that, and then they

766
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:58.679
went, I just mad. Do
you understand. I think it's more nowadays

767
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.440
when people are older that it matters. Like when Reno was in high school

768
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:07.920
or college, her teachers cared more
than her classmates. Was that the same

769
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:14.239
for you? Yeah, it's it
was weird because we'd well I can remember

770
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:17.519
one once, many moons ago,
you know, my my two older girls,

771
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:22.440
we would take turns walking them around
at Halloween trick or treating, and

772
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.880
it was my year to walk.
And these two little guys came up and

773
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.320
they said trick or treat, you
know. The one was seven, one

774
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:34.360
was nine. And the time she
gave him some candy, she goes,

775
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.920
there, you go, have a
nice night, be safe, and they're

776
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:44.159
standing there. Oh no, and
then and so do we need some here's

777
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.360
some more jelly beanes. Okay,
we're good. How's everybody done now?

778
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:52.639
And he sits there and he goes
this dark wing duck lift heir for reels

779
00:57:53.119 --> 00:58:00.480
and and she goes, oh,
oh yeah, but he's not here now,

780
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.599
he's out the was making sure that
the kids are safe. Yes,

781
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.599
and it's his brother. He goes, I told you you booker, and

782
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:15.800
that was the So he was a
booker and I was darkly. That's amazing.

783
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:20.800
And then you just come out in
your costume. Hello, yeah,

784
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:24.239
get off my steps. Well yeah, you never know, that could happen

785
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:29.559
too someday, right, yes,
you never know. Did you ever have

786
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:34.639
a dark wing duck costume or Winnie
the Poop costume or Tigger or any of

787
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:37.840
the other there's so many I can't
take up the whole thing with me namey

788
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:42.320
or no, no no. Have
you ever dressed up in your character's costume?

789
00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:45.480
Maybe? Yeah? Really? Yeah
interesting? Did you buy the costume

790
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.760
yourself or did someone? But maybe
yeah? Interesting? Yeah interesting? You

791
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.000
know you have one cousin? Yeah, how about that? So you ordered

792
00:58:54.039 --> 00:59:00.880
it even? Yeah? Yeah,
this is very this is next level.

793
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:10.920
Yes, I would you wear it
again, like win begging if that would

794
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.360
actually be hilarious if you did an
episode it's a Honda and Knaka from Star

795
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.480
Wars. Okay, okay, that
would be I can see that. So

796
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:22.079
it's not like Winnie the pood when
when he sits around, he sits around.

797
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.440
Yeah, that's true. But the
Honda was really interesting because it's a

798
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:29.880
it's a full and then you'll see
this down there and they're going and you

799
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.840
look at it and at first it
kind of looks legit and you're going wow,

800
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:36.119
And then I don't think he had
a beard. Did he have a

801
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.800
Oh god, that's a person you
know. Wait, there's someone in there

802
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:45.679
that is really I would like to
see a photo you don't have to put

803
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:47.880
it on. Maybe photo from the
other time you wore it, but that

804
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.800
you found someone to make that for
you too, that's this is really great.

805
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.679
Yeah, well they're out there.
I know. That's amazing. You

806
00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.559
know. Yeah. I have not
dressed up in any character that that I've

807
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:02.679
done. Ever. I don't want
to offend anyone because some people have a

808
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.079
favorite, I don't want to I
don't want to offend it by choosing.

809
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.440
Well, yeah, besides your best
guys a boy, that's true, but

810
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.920
he wears a vest in pants and
you know, baseball hat. I do

811
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:19.159
wear my baseball hat backwards. That's
ashy, it is. That's like normal

812
01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.400
human though too. Yeah, yeah, that's way too normal. I know

813
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.119
you're gonna have to grease it up
somehow, just screw it up some fashion.

814
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:29.480
Yeah, something like that. My
hair sticks out anyway, so I'm

815
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:34.320
kind of I'm getting there you too. Huh. Oh my gosh. Well,

816
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.360
this is it's been amazing. Before
we wrap it up, though,

817
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.159
there's something that we like to do
on each episode. Okay, when we

818
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.400
have a voice actor on, I'm
going to try and explain it. Okay,

819
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.519
well this time, because for some
reason it's always lost in translation.

820
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:51.639
Okay, okay, it's a character
voice swap. Okay, Jim will say

821
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.079
a line. Let's say I'll give
a specific example, Okay, Jim will

822
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.800
say a line as Winnie the Pooh
twenty the Pooh's iconic characters. And then

823
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.679
you'll say, in let's say,
as I'll take Ash because that's the furthest

824
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:06.599
from my normal voice. And so
then you'll say the same line as you

825
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.840
did in your character voice. I'm
so totally ready for and then we'll switch.

826
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.599
That seems very okay, Okay,
that's that's really great. Are you

827
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.760
gonna choose Winning the Poof for both
of yours? Sure? Okay, okay,

828
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:21.599
all right, you go. I
would like for you to say,

829
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:28.199
yes, would you please pass me
a smackrel of honey? Is that a

830
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:34.000
yes? So great? Okay,
hey, excuse me? Would you please

831
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:42.880
pass me a smackrel of honey?
Now? Please? I know I'm like

832
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.679
Winned the poo Oh. Would you
would you please? That's like astron is

833
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:52.119
the excuse me? Could you post
be a smackl of honey? Yeah?

834
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.960
That's good, that's good. You
know, of of everybody that's gold,

835
01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.920
everybody that we've had on the show
or anybody that I've met conventions, your

836
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:05.760
voice, your ash boys really like
does something to me because I became a

837
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.960
child again, the same as winning
the Pooh, Like it's a thing to

838
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:14.000
it. One time my daughter was
sick and I was at a convention and

839
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.599
we called Rina and you did Winnie
the Pooh on the phone, and it

840
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:22.280
was just like we already know you, but my gosh, it was just

841
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:25.880
so special. And it's like those
little things that key you in. So

842
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.000
it's you know, I have some
voices that are like, hey, it's

843
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:31.960
so nice to meet you. You
know, like whatever, so what,

844
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:37.840
that's fine? Whatever phone line and
have you called it? Yes, that's

845
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:42.039
how I reckon. I didn't know
it was you. Yes, But you

846
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.159
know, that's funny. It's a
thing. But there's something about these where

847
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:51.480
we're lucky again to have a character
that's not us but so deeply ingrained that

848
01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:55.119
it is us. Well. I
have a miniature philosophy about that. And

849
01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:01.400
anything that you can do that evokes
a instant to being eight or five or

850
01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:06.679
something like that, that that that's
transformative. Yeah. Yeah, it's like

851
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:10.079
buoying. Okay, here, okay, geez I remember I was sitting on

852
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.519
the couch and you know, and
I was holding that green pillow that had

853
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:21.280
yeah. Yeah, there's also something
too about these let's say, just these

854
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.880
two characters that they are. You
know, when you are ten, they

855
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.719
say, that's when you start to
figure out who you want to be when

856
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.199
you're older, what you might want
to do, kind of where you're going

857
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:39.440
to go. And these characters are
ten and below, and so you tap

858
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:46.519
into that kind of unlimited potential and
that just that naive ta and that trust,

859
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.320
and that's who the character is.
So I think you allow the audience

860
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:58.960
to enter into that room through these
voices too, you know. So there's

861
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.280
something about that that it you can
be like, I'm ten again, you

862
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.679
know, I'm a kid again hearing
those voices, because it's it's full of

863
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:11.400
imagination, you know. Okay,
so what would Ash say to you?

864
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:15.559
I'm interesting to get you only he
win? That would you? Okay?

865
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:21.239
Uh? Okay? How about that? Uh? Pikachu, I choose you?

866
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:33.519
Okay, Pika, I choose you, Sorry, Piglet, because you

867
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.440
would have to you would have to
apologize to you would of course you would.

868
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:44.559
I'm sorry too, that's my terrible
Piglet. Don't wry. I choose

869
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:54.239
you to Piglet. Come on over, pek a piglet. I can't do

870
01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.599
that. I've never imitated those voices
at home. I'm gonna have to start

871
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.079
so the next time I come on, I can just that's my Disney characters.

872
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.360
Bad, bad, impressed. Well
that's good, it's totally good.

873
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.679
Yeah. Well, I always say, if you do a bad impression of

874
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:15.559
someone famous, you have a new
character totally. Oh yeah, I do,

875
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:20.800
I do. I played a sheep
that was like we we we were

876
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:26.159
going here. She was in word
world. Actually taught kids how to read.

877
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:29.360
But she had a bit of a
stutter too, so she taught kids

878
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:31.400
how to stutter. Yeah, little, but in a smooth way, smooth

879
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:38.360
one. Who was that Demosthenes Euripides? Humanities? Is that where we're going

880
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:44.840
with the jokes? No humanities?
Where are those? I can't where?

881
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:49.480
Demons? Demons? Was it demons? The guy who had a We had

882
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:53.800
that gun the gum that made us
focus and be smarter. And I'm not

883
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.880
it's not mine? Wre off?
Mine did too. I can't remember anything.

884
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:03.760
Okay, we're back full circle.
Yeah, back to the snoring again.

885
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.800
Well we're here today with oh no
wait, no wait, we did

886
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:15.760
that already, like vu okay,
yes, and What I loved about that

887
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:17.719
voice swap, though, was that, as you were mentioning earlier the difference

888
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:21.639
between voicing a character and knowing a
character, Jim knew he isn't his voice

889
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:25.159
winning the poo. He knew he
had to throw in the piglet line because

890
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:28.679
Jim is winning the poop. He
knew exactly what Winnie the Pooh would sounds.

891
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:31.840
That's that's the key, it is. You have to live it.

892
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:36.360
It's how they That's how you can
really tell all your characters apart is who

893
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:42.039
they who they are. Yeah,
that's fantastic. There's a guy out there.

894
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.800
I can't think of his name,
but he'll come on. And and

895
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:49.920
and another fellow who's very, very
very successful has also said, oh no,

896
01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.800
I don't. I'm prov no,
no, no no. But there's

897
01:06:54.840 --> 01:07:00.840
a guy that does a lot of
my characters, not very well, but

898
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:04.039
no heart, heart but no heart. And uh and I ran into him

899
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:10.599
at a function and uh and and
I say, isn't that And yeah,

900
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.159
well no he won't. He won't
come over. And I said, because

901
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:18.000
he's worried that everybody. I know
this guy and he does this with like

902
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:23.239
everybody that he ever meets at a
convention, he doesn't meet him because he's

903
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:28.760
he's worried they're gonna yell at him
or say he does it badly or stop

904
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.559
or you know, give him the
single digit salute. And of course I

905
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:38.159
wouldn't have. I was just gonna
hit him, just going to suckers lights

906
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:41.719
out. But now you can't hit
too, art because you've got your signing

907
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:48.599
hand. Yeah that's true, robot
arm. Yeah. I think the people

908
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:54.880
who can do amazing impressions are incredible, and I too, would rather meet

909
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.719
them than avoid them, because as
long as they don't take your job,

910
01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:00.679
then that's all that matters. Sure, there's plenty of work out there for

911
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.960
all of us, that's right.
Just don't take my job. As long

912
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.719
as you can't act wet in the
shower, that's right, you know,

913
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:14.079
because people think people think you well, you're just doing voice voices. Yeah,

914
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.840
yeah, it's all easy work.
Yeah yeah, it's uh. You

915
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:24.000
got to make it look easy,
but it's really hard work, super fun,

916
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:30.000
super worth it. And thank you, thank you. This has been

917
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:34.640
so fun. Thank you so much. What again an honor to be with

918
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:40.279
you, with you. I said
it first, okay, but I echoed

919
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.279
it in your voice. Did you
your back It was kind of freaky,

920
01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:47.159
I know. Oh my gosh.
Thank you guys so much, thank you,

921
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:50.720
thank you, thank you all right, thank you guys for watching.

922
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.720
That was another episode of Tuned In
with Jim Commings. Today we had Veronica

923
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.479
Taylor. I hope you guys had
a good time. Don't forget. You

924
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.479
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925
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.840
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926
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.760
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927
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:12.720
Thank you so much. Once again
tuned In with Jim Cummings and Veronica

928
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:16.840
Taylor. Thank you so much,
Thank you so much. We could have

929
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.159
talked forever if there's so many interesting
things. Yeah, it was fun.

930
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.159
That was the best episode I think
we've ever done on the podcast. Yeah,

931
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:26.319
that was a really good one.
Yeah, that was really good.