WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.000 This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.480 sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:17.039 Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm Tanya, and together we are Crimes and 4 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:39.280 Consequences, a true crime podcast. Hi Tanya, Hi Talia. How is 5 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.359 it going? Oh? We're not bad? Happy Saint Patrick's say. I 6 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:45.759 guess yeah, it did Saint Patrick's day. I gotta get the hell out 7 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:49.240 of here soon so I can do this some green beer. Okay. So 8 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.560 I would like thank everybody, by the way, just for taking the time 9 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.280 to listen to us. We really appreciate you, guys. And if you 10 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.759 haven't done so already, please just hit the subscriber foulow button. Just please 11 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:02.719 do yes, please. We gotta say it every time. It's just part 12 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.000 of how it goes. So are you ready for this story? I am 13 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:08.599 all right. I'm just gonna start, Okay. In November of twenty thirteen, 14 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:15.680 a Cleveland nine one one operator got this frantic call from a woman her 15 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:21.040 husband had been shot outside of the home. That they were pecking up because 16 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:25.200 they were getting right and moved and it seemed to her like a robbery gone 17 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.840 wrong. There were no perpetrators in sight, and the man shot was still 18 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:37.319 breathing after being shot four time. God the man's wife rides with him in 19 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:42.040 the EMS to the local hospital. But unfortunately with those four shots, no, 20 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:48.239 he didn't make it. And his name was William Walker, and his 21 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:51.120 murder, I'm gonna let you know right now, you're gonna get really passed 22 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:56.760 great and the people responsible for his murder never got punished. So I'm just 23 00:01:56.879 --> 00:02:01.439 leting I'm just letting you right now, all right, prepared for everybody to 24 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:07.200 have to pick up their jaws from the floor because there's some plat twists that 25 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:13.120 will unfold in this episode. Lieutenant William Walker was a Cleveland firefighter for over 26 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:17.360 twenty years. He was married twice, once with a woman named Rita Walker, 27 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:23.319 and they had two children together, Melody and Chris. His second wife 28 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:30.759 was a woman named Aloma Curry Walker. Aloma had a child from a previous 29 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.479 relationship. She had a daughter. Her name was Jacqueline Hines. Okay, 30 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.400 so you kind of got a little bit of a blended family going on. 31 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.719 William was a hard worker who saved money to take care of his family. 32 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.240 He just worked hard, didn't do much, but you know, it was 33 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:52.159 really good with finances. That saved his money. His family and friends to 34 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:55.639 him, they always came first. He loved a dance and he would teach 35 00:02:55.719 --> 00:03:02.280 his male coworkers how to do the salsa. Oh, it's a little strange, 36 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:07.280 but cute. He met his second wife, Aloma, through work. 37 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:12.919 She was a nurse and he's a firefighter. The two were closely together. 38 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.080 Aloma was a single mom and she had that nine year old daughter. I 39 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:22.800 was telling you about Jacqueline at the time they met. Aloma checked all the 40 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:28.360 boxes that William wanted in a partner. She was kind, she was gentle, 41 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:34.280 she was a great mom. Since both William and Aloma had been married 42 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.120 before, they were basically each other's first chance to find a second love. 43 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:46.199 Oh okay. They dated for eight years, so they took their time, 44 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:51.680 and they eventually got married. They seemed incredibly happy to their friends and family. 45 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:55.479 They both loved a dance and they would go out for nights on the 46 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:02.319 town and just dance together. Everything seemed great, but as we know, 47 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:08.879 as we know, sometimes things aren't what they seem. As I said, 48 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:14.199 they dated for eight years before they eventually got married. Aloma got really sick 49 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:19.639 of waiting for him to ask her to marriam, so she created a plan 50 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:25.600 for herself and William. She told William that she was diagnosed with stage four 51 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:30.920 breast kids and her health insurance wasn't really going to cover much of her care 52 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.439 and treatment. She really needed his health insurance, which is kind of weird 53 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.600 because she's a nurse, so you would think, oh, yeah, you're 54 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:43.879 right, good health insurance. And then in order for her to survive her 55 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:49.600 life threatening cancer, she really needed his insurance because it was better than hers. 56 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:57.160 That's a good plan. Actually, really they got married in twenty and 57 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:02.920 thirteen because of her diagnosis of stage four breast answer. Healthcare coverage is obviously 58 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:08.000 a big benefit for firefighters. I mean, think about it across the country. 59 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:13.120 It's their job to put their lives out there, that's to save other 60 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.759 people's. William did love Aloma, and he thought it was a good decision 61 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:23.199 to marry her, I mean, given her stage four breast cancer. But 62 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:29.040 there was one problem she didn't actually have. Yeah, caught on the stage 63 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.560 four breast cancer. In fact, who fucking makes that up? God damn, 64 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:38.759 I hate people like the hell I know that's a big lie. That 65 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.759 is a huge lie. In fact, she had been to a doctorate over 66 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.160 a year. But William, I mean, he's not going to question her. 67 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.160 You're lying about breast cancer. William told his friends and family about this 68 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:57.480 devastating news, and everyone was there for them emotionally, and they had all 69 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.439 their friends and family to be a shoulder to cry on. After they got 70 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.360 married, he did everything he possibly could and to help his wife. And 71 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:09.120 just so you know, they ended up eloping in a courthouse and they didn't 72 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.279 tell a single soul about the marriage until it was already done. So they 73 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.600 just were like, hey, we got married, we got married, everything 74 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.720 got married. William was just really worried about his wife. He felt he 75 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:25.199 needed a savor and he would do anything it to help or get through it. 76 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.279 He almost seemed to develop what it was called, like a hero complex. 77 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:33.480 Basically he was there for whatever she needed and that was just sort of 78 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:39.600 his nature. Yeah, he's probably that type of guy. The first few 79 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.279 months of their marriage was great for both of them. They had a plan 80 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.639 to move out of the city of Cleveland and they were going to retire in 81 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:50.720 the countryside of Ohio. They bought a house about thirty miles east of Cleveland. 82 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:59.800 For William, every day was another day towards his eventual retirement to a 83 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.199 mom. She was dreading the day that William would find out how much debt. 84 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:11.680 Oh shit, she was in debt from loans and credit cards by tens 85 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:15.800 of thousands of dollars. She even took out a loan in William's name. 86 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:23.199 Oh shit. She was struggling with financially and William had no clue. So 87 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:28.040 she played the part of the happy wife who was slowly dying of breast cancer. 88 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:33.279 I know there was not a single shred of proof that she had any 89 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:38.079 cancer, but Liam believed her. He never got a hospital bill, He 90 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:42.480 never asked for the medicals because he never went to any of these ravens. 91 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.439 No, he just trusted her. And he was a really happy, positive 92 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:50.040 person by the way. That was his persona. But that was who he 93 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:55.360 was, so he would have never thought someone would do this. He had 94 00:07:55.399 --> 00:08:00.240 no idea all the secrets that his wife was hiding from him. Shit. 95 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.879 William thought that jointly the two had a lot more money than what they really 96 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.639 had. They bought this brand new house for the retirement, and William as 97 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.560 I said, was really excited when he eventually retired to move into this house. 98 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.079 He would sold pictures of the home and the land to his friends and 99 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.519 co workers, and he just couldn't wait for her to get over her cancer 100 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.920 and for them to start their new life. But Alama had a different plan. 101 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.840 Oh no, it's a plan of murder. Oh no. She was 102 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.480 in so much debt and he was eventually going to figure it out. I 103 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:43.200 mean it out, especially with the purchase of a new house and the in 104 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.759 fact they just got married. He's going to learn about this. At one 105 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.000 point, their accounts were both in the negative and they were overdrawn. In 106 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.639 late summer of twenty thirteen, Alama brought up the idea of having William killed. 107 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.559 What to her daughter what was seventeen at the time, Oh my god, 108 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:07.440 and her daughter's boyfriend, Chad bad Get. Aloma promised the two that 109 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.600 the deed would pay well and be it would be worth it for them if 110 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:15.200 they agreed to kill him. That is so fucked up. I know they 111 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.519 were together eight years. It's not like she just like tried to find some 112 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.440 guy to mary and kill and he loved her. He was I mean, 113 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.519 it sounds like a great person. William had a huge life insurance policy. 114 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.679 Well, I mean it was one hundred thousand, and if he was gone 115 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.480 out of the picture, Aloma would make sure that both of those kids got 116 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.559 a cut of her payout. She offered them a thousand dollars down payment, 117 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:45.440 and the two accepted the down payment. Damn. But their goal was to 118 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:52.320 find somebody to murder williams do it themselves. Chad asked a lot of people 119 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.840 in town, oh my god, and they turned him down. What you 120 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.279 want to kill someone for me? I mean what, that's stupid. These 121 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.320 people would later testify a trial. A former homicide detective. His name was 122 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:09.799 Rod Dummery said, the fact that someone would agree to do it for a 123 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:15.960 thousand dollars shows that that person is very, very impassionable. So it fits 124 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.480 that Aloma would use her seventeen year old daughter and her boyfriend and basically manipulate 125 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:28.840 them into doing that. At the point that she asked her daughter again her 126 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:33.480 hunter's boyfriend, to kill William, they've been married about four months. Damn. 127 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:37.799 She wanted that policy payout, and in order to get a William how 128 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:43.600 to die, So Ched calls a cousin his name is Christopher Hines. Christophe 129 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:48.799 thought about killing Williams since he bought and sold guns as a dealer for a 130 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.879 living. So he's like, maybe, sure, let me think about me 131 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:56.559 think about that. He even did a test run, driving to the location 132 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:01.080 where the crime would be committed, but Christopher never went through it. He 133 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.679 didn't want to be the one to poll tracker. Nobody wanted to be the 134 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.960 one poll tragger. Yeah, I mean hello, hello, Hello, Who 135 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.279 wants to be a murderer? So Chad asked another person. He tried to 136 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.279 recruit, another guy named Ryan Doherty. Ryan was offered eight hundred and some 137 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:22.320 weed. Wow, he had a really long criminal history, and he agreed 138 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:28.759 to kill William Damn a November third of two thousand and thirteen, right before 139 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.440 William and Aloma were to start their new retired lives together. That's when William 140 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.600 died. He was just getting ready to retire. They were packing up as 141 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:45.200 I saw, Yeah, that's Ryan were packing up their house. Aloma sent 142 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.679 William to the nearby McDonalds to pick up some dinner. Around eight pm. 143 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.720 Christopher and Jacqueline were to wait on the west side of Cleveland while Ryan and 144 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:58.960 Chad were on the east side of Lampson Road near Cleveland Heights. Aloma and 145 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:03.799 Jacqueline were in touch with each other throughout the entire scene. Loma told Jacqueline 146 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:07.919 when William left for McDonald's, you know, hey, he's headed there, 147 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.600 and Chad and Ryan were waiting for him to leave the house so they could 148 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:15.360 get into position. They were to wait until William arrived back home with the 149 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:20.679 food, and then once William returned, Ryan took William by surprise and Anne 150 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.240 bushed him at the door of the house that he shared with a Loma. 151 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:30.039 Ryan shot him, as I told you four times in the back. Oh 152 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.639 so cruel. This is cruel, discussing it's so callous. Yes, Ryan 153 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:43.519 and Chad had a getaway driver, but they recruited another person unbelievable. After 154 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.200 hearing the shots, the driver asked Chad and Ryan, Hey, what just 155 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.840 happened? So the guy didn't know? Oh yeah, he was just like 156 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.559 driving them. Oh shit, was some sort of uber friend thing. He's 157 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.840 like, what has happened? The two replied that the shots were from a 158 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:03.559 drug deal gone wrong. The getaway driver didn't not let Ryan and Chad pack 159 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:07.440 in his car for him think for the wreck of the driver had no clue 160 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:13.279 about obviously about the entire plan, and he honestly thought they were just picking 161 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:18.320 up some weed and they needed a ride. But Chad and Ryan were able 162 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.080 to leave the scene of the crime without being detected. Aloma heard the shots 163 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.679 from inside the household. Oh what's going on? It was around eight thirty 164 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.840 pm when she called nine to one. She's screaming frantically at the operator that 165 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.200 her husband has just been shot. William's keys were still in the door when 166 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.360 the first responders arrived on the scene, and he was shot while he was 167 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:45.720 trying to unlock his own front door, carrying the McDonald's in his hand, 168 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:50.919 which is you know. The first responders for William, they were his friends 169 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:58.039 and co workers, that's right. Oh, that's They were the fire department 170 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.720 in ems oh Man, and they knew him really, really well. When 171 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:07.559 they were at the scene, both fire fighters and the MMSS noticed that some 172 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:13.120 things just weren't quite right. While William was completely covered in blood, Aloma 173 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.360 did not have a single drop on her. And she's a nurse, right, 174 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.200 yeah, she should have been helping tried to help them, she didn't. 175 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.799 Blood was everywhere, but she had none on her and she's just crying, 176 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:33.200 and she's playing this grieving widow. She seemed just tortured by what happened. 177 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.679 But yet they were like, why do you think her training would kick 178 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:43.759 in and right her husband. Basically, she deserved a fucking oscar for her 179 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.200 performance. That night, William was still alive when the ambulance left the house 180 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.919 to rush him to the hospital. He was still breathing by the time that 181 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.879 he got to the hospital. One of William's good friends, Ronnie Stepka, 182 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.120 had just kept word that you know, William had been shot, and Ronnie 183 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:05.399 dropped everything and sped to the hospital to be there for his friend because he 184 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.480 knew his friend was in really bad shape. Ronnie drove twenty miles from his 185 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.720 home since he was off duty at the time, and he described the scene 186 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:18.120 at the hospital as surreal. He said, this isn't what you'd expect to 187 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.559 happen in the sky. There was probably about a dozen firefighters in the emergency 188 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.440 room, and we could see him from the trauma bay one. We could 189 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.120 see the doctors, the nurses and all the specials in there working un will 190 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:37.519 They knew he was a firefighter, so they did everything they could to save 191 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:43.000 will Everyone was praying for William's survival. The doctors knew that Ronnie and William 192 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:48.639 were exceptionally close friends. The doctor walked out and started talking to Ronnie directly 193 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.559 and asked him if he wanted to say goodbye to his friend. Ronnie started 194 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.000 crying, and he went to the trauma bay one and he held William's hand, 195 00:15:56.240 --> 00:16:00.480 gave him a kiss him and forehead, and told him that he loved 196 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:04.120 him. He said, teary eyed quote. It was not uncommon me saying 197 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.320 that I loved him. I told him I loved him a thousand times in 198 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.720 my career. I did. I loved being around him. He was a 199 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:17.080 good guy. And God, I'm gonna fucking cry so sad. The news 200 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.879 of William's death crushed everyone in the r Nurses, doctors, of firefighters. 201 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:27.200 They all had came in when William most needed them, and the reaction of 202 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:33.360 his death to his coworkers goes to show how amazing William really was. Oddly, 203 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:38.360 though, Ronnie noticed that William's wife, Aloma, wasn't anywhere in the 204 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:44.440 ear that night. But before I tell you more, we're gonna take a 205 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:57.399 quick break. The police immediately opened a homicide investigation for the murder of William. 206 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:02.480 Nine millimeter shalcas were found at the crime scene, and the casings were 207 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:06.960 sent out for DNA testing. I know, maybe off the bullet, like 208 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.559 who loaded it? Yeah, right, that's what I was just thinking. 209 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.640 Friends, family, and co workers of William were question of course, but 210 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:18.079 the police investigators they came up empty. No one had a clue as to 211 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:23.359 who would want to murder William. Nobody knew of any enemies that William could 212 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:27.200 have. I mean, he's just a firefighter, living like a great guy. 213 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.559 He got along with everyone around him. It just didn't make sense that 214 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.160 anybody would hate him so much that they needed to kill him. But the 215 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.519 police did have a few leads based off of a recent history with car purchases 216 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:49.359 and drug dealers within his neighborhood. William got into an argument with a car 217 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:52.880 dealer. Okay, well, I mean again, arguments begin arguments. It 218 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:56.640 doesn't mean the car dealer is gonna shoot you, right, But he went 219 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:00.319 to buy two cars for himself and a Loma for the retirement. He paid 220 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.640 ten thousand for each of them, and one of the cars never showed up. 221 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.759 He was upset and he let the car dealer. Know, I'm pretty 222 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:18.160 pissed off, yeah, paraphrasing, But this lead ended up going nowhere because 223 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:21.559 again, like car dealers, am not going to come to murdering you, 224 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:26.279 right. Usually usually we probably had a case where they did. Probably. 225 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:32.279 William was known to chase drug dealers out of the neighborhood. He is a 226 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:36.759 badass. He was so respected in his community, and he would break up 227 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.759 fights among dangerous people in the area, and he would even set up food 228 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:47.160 banks for families within the community that needed help. Because he's so damn nice 229 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:52.559 man. I am early passed. The police were very stumped and very confused 230 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.160 why such a great guy would be so viciously killed. There was no motive, 231 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.519 and almost a year went by to the investigation with no movement from the 232 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:07.160 police. They had no suspect, no weapon, no theories. In December 233 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:14.599 of twenty fourteen, a man named Enrique Ramos told police that his friend and 234 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:21.519 I cannot pronounce this person's name. You want to try mister Solomon and his 235 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:26.599 friend, mister Solomon, was approached by Chad Peggett to kill William. Police 236 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:32.000 investigators spoke to mister Solomon and he confirmed that ched called him to see if 237 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:37.599 you'd like to just kill William Loma. Mister Solomon let the police know that 238 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:44.039 Ched told him that Jacqueline's mother was the one that wanted William dad. That 239 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:48.559 was her first big break in the case. Police ended up getting a subpoena 240 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.680 for Chad's phone records and come to find out, the phone records, especially 241 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:59.039 text messages, would be the majority of evidence that was used in this criminal 242 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.079 case. They were asking a bunch of people, weren't they, Yeah, 243 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:07.759 And apparently texting people are so dumb. God, Hello, don't text anything 244 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:12.240 here. Here's another word of advice from two lawyers. Do not text something 245 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.799 that you wouldn't want coming back and biting you in the ass, right, 246 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.839 I mean, don't threaten anyone. I mean, come on, don't have 247 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.039 to kill Hey, do you want to kill somebody? Don't person. There's 248 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:30.559 advice that's great, no witnesses. After checking the phone records, they ended 249 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.680 up with a lot of suspects. Actually, because as you said, yes, 250 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.519 they reached out to a lot of people, or Chad did. They 251 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:42.559 were then able to get a hold of all the individuals phone records based off 252 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.000 of who Chad had texted. God, that's a lot of text messages. 253 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.000 Hey dude, what are you doing today? You want to make some money? 254 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:55.079 The police knew they had to speak to Chad obviously right right, and 255 00:20:55.400 --> 00:21:00.960 Jacqueline and Ron Doherty, since these were the individuals Chad was in touch with 256 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:07.359 the most based off of his text The police were very familiar with Ryan since 257 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:15.359 he'd committed two armed robberies after William had been murdered. The police noticed that 258 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:19.200 Ryan was in touch with Almah, which is kind of odd because he's young 259 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:25.000 and he's got this violent pass and why would he be talking to this middle 260 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:30.720 aged woman. Was she contacting him for favors? Yes? While they subpoena 261 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:37.599 the records, and that's when the whole case blew wide open. Aloma was 262 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:41.079 brought in for questioning, and she told police that she didn't have any financial 263 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:48.279 problems and that everything was completely fine with her marriage. She didn't know that 264 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.480 investigators already had her bank stage. Hello, hello, records, dude. 265 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.359 You can't lie when there's a record. And even if they didn't know at 266 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.599 the time, they would find out. Yes, they knew exactly how much 267 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.960 in debt she was and they knew she took out loans in William's name, 268 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.839 you know, one hundred thousand dollars life insurance policy. And part of that 269 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.640 policy is she had to be married to him to get any of the money, 270 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.559 right, So that's why she got that quickie marriage. They are lying 271 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:22.000 to him about her breast cancer exactly. The investigators asked Aloma about her breast 272 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:27.359 cancer. They asked about the last time she'd been to the doctor or oncologist. 273 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.960 She told the police she'd never seen an oncologist and hadn't been to a 274 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:36.680 doctor in over a year. Oh, okay, okay. As you know, 275 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:41.400 stage four breast cancer patients have to see doctors all the time, all 276 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.559 the time. But she never fucking went because she didn't have breast cancer. 277 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.119 Gosh, what a thing to fake. Well, the police know it was 278 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.319 bullshit. Yeah, they knew. The cell phone records were looked at again 279 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:59.680 regarding Ryan Chad Aloma, and they were in contact down to the minute that 280 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.759 the murder occurred. Oh wow, and how about this one? Are you 281 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:07.400 ready? Because this is about stupid criminals, really stupid criminals. I know 282 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.559 you do. A text message was found after the murder had occurred, and 283 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:17.960 it said, quote, we have a body that was from Chad. What 284 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.400 the hell right, how are you going to explain that? Oh, that's 285 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.359 not what I met with this evidence. They confronted Chad and he broke down 286 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:30.079 and he told them everything. Chad told investigators everything then occurred on the night 287 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.920 that William was killed, down to every last detail. And Chad is twenty 288 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:38.079 one years old, so you know, and he confessed. He was ended 289 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.839 up being accused of complicity to commit murder. This is what he told police. 290 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:47.880 He told police that Aloma came to him and Jacqueline, and these two 291 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:55.440 women claimed that William was physically abusive to Aloma. Aloma had this way of 292 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:59.519 making people feel sorry for her. She's very manipulate, like this whole woe 293 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:04.319 is me mentality. In fact, a forensic psychologist who ended up examining Aloma 294 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:08.200 said, quote Aloma is very good at making people feel sympathetic towards her, 295 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:14.240 to feel these genuine emotions for her, and then to use those emotions to 296 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:18.039 advantage to get them to do whatever she wanted them to do. End quote. 297 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.359 Wow, So Chad thought, you know, I need to save this 298 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.279 woman from this horrible abuse she's been suffering from years. He thought, even 299 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:32.319 though the crime was wrong and needed to be done, and that's basically what 300 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:37.039 he told the police is he wanted to stop the abuse. On November third 301 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.079 of twenty thirteen, the police, with the phone records, they were able 302 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.160 to put all the pieces together. I feel like they have enough, right, 303 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.119 Yeah. Really, they tied all the text messages together to create a 304 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:53.720 timeline with the locations of where everyone involved. Was that throughout the whole murder, 305 00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.359 cell phone tower peeings showed exactly the route Chad and Ryan traveled at night, 306 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:04.519 and the investigators found out that Aloma called nine to one after Chad and 307 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:10.160 Ryan were far enough from her house that she felt it was safe, so 308 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:14.839 she took her time in calling your police and ems in no way, obviously 309 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:18.119 we already talked about it helped her dying husband. The forensic psychologists that I 310 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.720 told you about earlier said in regard to this quote, I think Aloma had 311 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.839 been waiting for this moment. She had been waiting for the moment that her 312 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:30.839 plan could come to fruition, that he would die and she would finally be 313 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:34.000 able to have her hands on his money. And I think it was very 314 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:41.240 deliberate. She didn't want to save him yeah, yeah, I could have 315 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:47.759 told you that right. Furthermore, the detectives talked to Ems, and Ems 316 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.519 told him that they had enough experience in dealing with seems like this that Aloma's 317 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:59.920 reaction was just so odd because she would go from hysterical to being completely composed, 318 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.400 and then the text messages between her and her daughter, it was just 319 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.359 odd. There was no emotion involved in any of it. It wasn't until 320 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:12.960 September of twenty fifteen that Chad was charged with aggravated murders. So this is 321 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.720 the last two years gone by, and he undered a not guilty plea Jacqueline, 322 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.839 Ryan and Christopher they were also arrested for the same thing, and Aloma 323 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:30.319 knew it's coming for her. She eventually ended up turning herself in when a 324 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:36.160 warrant was issued. Before she did, she wrote a confession that stated that 325 00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:41.119 William had been physically abusive to her for years, and she mentioned something about 326 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:45.279 the fact that she was married to a firefighter, so it would be expected 327 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.960 to be abused. Really, yeah, I didn't realize firefighters abused their spouses. 328 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.079 Well, you need to talk to Alma. Apparently, she denied that 329 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.160 she planned the entire murderer, and she blamed her daughter. She did. 330 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:06.519 Oh that's dirty. She turned on her daughter, Jacqueline and told the police 331 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:11.759 that Jacqueline was a mastermind behind all of it. She told police that Jacqueline 332 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:17.759 and Chad hated how strict William was with the rules and the living situation and 333 00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.240 try to make William seem like he was an over controlling man and that Jacqueline 334 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:27.279 needed him gone. It's really, if you think about it, fucked up 335 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.039 that she would go and blame her daughter for this. Oh yeah, that's 336 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.039 totally fucked up. But she did whatever she had to do to get it 337 00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:40.519 herself not stuck in prison. That's pretty shitty. The police investigated, but 338 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:45.920 there's no evidence that William was ever violent ever in his life. In December 339 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.599 of twenty fifteen, Aloma was arrested finally, thank god, for her husband's 340 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.039 murder. But you can imagine everybody at the hospital where she weres, because 341 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:59.200 I remember she's a nurse. Yes, everybody was just like what the fuck. 342 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.200 William's friend Ronnie said, quote, we had no idea what exactly went 343 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.279 down that night until the story broke. And when that story broke, it 344 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.359 was huge. It took my breath away. Oh I bet boon was said 345 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:18.599 at one million dollars cash cash, Damn, that doesn't happen. No, 346 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:25.200 she's not getting out exactly. And something I never mentioned is she wasn't originally 347 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:30.000 considered a suspect by anybody as far as Williams friends and co workers. And 348 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:34.920 they actually raised fifty thousand dollars to help support her after William's death. Are 349 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:40.079 you shitting me? No, the fire department did. That is terrible. 350 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:42.559 She's an evil person when she took the money. Of course she did. 351 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:48.319 Oh my god. While awaiting trial, Jacqueline, Chad, Christopher, and 352 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.319 Ryan originally denied any involvement, even though Chad had given a confession. He 353 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:57.279 minimized his role in it. But eventually they gave in and took some plea 354 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:02.480 deals. As I said before, or Chad was the first to actually confess 355 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.759 that he had something to do with it. Then Ryan confessed he was the 356 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:12.440 gunman. Then Jacqueline eventually confessed. She told prosecutors that she was willing to 357 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:18.880 testify against her mother. Yeah exactly, Yeah, your mom said you were 358 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.319 the right. And Chad, her boyfriend and who was also, by the 359 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:27.240 way, the father of her young child. Everybody's saving their own skin in 360 00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:32.440 this one. Well hell yeah, hell yeah. Christopher was the last to 361 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.759 take the plea deal, and he ended up taking the plea deal. In 362 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.759 the day of the trial, they all pled guilty and were sentenced to are 363 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.559 you ready? Yeah? Are you sure? Really? What probation? Eight 364 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:48.720 to twenty eight years in jail in prison? Wow. The prosecution decided not 365 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.200 to charge Jacqueline as an adult because she was seventeen at the time of the 366 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.720 killing, so she was are you ready for this? Sentce in one month 367 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.599 in juvie one month? One month? Wow. She wasn't the mastermind behind 368 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.480 it, and she was just going along with her mom. It's okay, 369 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.720 I'm not you know, I can kind of my kids would be grounded longer 370 00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.480 than that if they tried to. I mean, yeah, I'm not like 371 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:18.519 playing it someone killed, murdering with my teenage daughter. But still, okay, 372 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.799 I mean I'm not that's going to animize it because Aloma manipulated her. 373 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.720 That's true. That's true. Aloma was the only person tried. Oh good, 374 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.640 and they all testified against her. Course. The trial date was set 375 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.759 for June of twenty seventeen, and that guy pushed out because they were hoping 376 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.160 that she would take a plea but she didn't. No, she didn't do 377 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.759 it. He was abusive, right, she was in this well even if 378 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.200 he was abusive. Yeah, she's got to stick to her story. The 379 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.680 courtroom gallery was just packed daily with family members of Williams and Aloma's along with 380 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:57.599 all the EMS people and the firefighters. Aloma took the stand absolutely, she 381 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.240 put the performance of a life. She took that stand and told the jury's 382 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.920 how her daughter came up with the entire scheme to kill William, her seventeen 383 00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:12.160 year old daughter. She made it seem like William and Jacqueline never got along 384 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.640 with each other and that there was just extreme tension in the household, which 385 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.079 was not the case. And then of course she expressed how abusive he was 386 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.720 towards her. But Alona's defensing they couldn't prove any of it. There, 387 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.920 you know, there's so she's saying all this, but there's no proof. 388 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.720 There were many character witnesses that came forward to testify about how amazing William was, 389 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.680 and the jury really ended up believing he was a stand up guy. 390 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.319 Some of the people in the courtroom were so upset that they had to lead 391 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.240 because they couldn't stop their tears. As I told you, Chad, Ryan, 392 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.200 and Christopher took the stand and spoke for the prosecution, and so did 393 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:57.599 Jacqueline. Her testimony was very moving to the jury when she described her relationship 394 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:02.400 with her mother, this really strange relationship where her mom annibulated her. It 395 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.400 made her feel guilty all the time, like you were saying. She told 396 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.799 the jury that her and Chad were approached while in a car with Aloma, 397 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.160 and she told the two about the new house and the one hundred thousand dollars 398 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.240 payout, and that if they would just do it, there'd be no more 399 00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:27.039 debt for her. And already she'd manipulated and messed up Jacqueline's head so much 400 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.240 that I don't know, Jacqueline, like you said, just did what her 401 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.720 mom wanted to do. So you want to know a little twist in all 402 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.519 this, Yeah, Aloma thought that she would be getting Williams's life insurance policy. 403 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:42.759 Oh shit, right, yeah, but he hadn't had a chance to 404 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.160 change it. Actually to her, he told her he would, and she 405 00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:51.200 thought, if you know, once they got married, it would happen. 406 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:55.039 But he never did Oh, he had a different beneficiary. It was Melody, 407 00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:00.160 his daughter. Wow, so she didn't even get them. It wasn't 408 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:06.880 even a possibility. She did it all for nothing. Sad, I know. 409 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:12.640 Girl. Her children ended up talking to the news and just described how 410 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.319 shocked they were. They'd known Aluma for eight years, right, eight years, 411 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.839 and was like she was a stepmom basically to them, and they were 412 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:27.480 just shocked and horrified. But they were asked, do you feel angry, 413 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.640 and they said no, not for me. It's just sad. She was 414 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.200 like a step mom for so many years. None of us would have ever 415 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.160 guessed that anything like this would be the outcome. We just want to let 416 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.039 everybody know that this is a huge loss for a family and we are devastated. 417 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.359 So Aluma was convicted of first green murder and she is serving out a 418 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:52.839 sentence. Her sentence in Daytona Correctional Institution in Montgomery County, Ohio. I 419 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.680 hope they threw away the key. I'm sure they did. I hope, 420 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:01.160 so, I hope. So Wow, this is crazy. So I never 421 00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.559 heard of this story before me neither poor William. I know, I feel 422 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.719 so bad. He sounded eight years together like a really awesome years together, 423 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.800 and you're making up breast cancer and you want this life insurance policy that, 424 00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.400 by the way, doesn't exist. And Okay, I'm not trying to like, 425 00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.400 one hundred thousand dollars isn't even that much money. I mean, it's 426 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.480 not enough to really kill someone over I mean, to her, Yes, 427 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.679 but she's a nurse. Yes, I mean, it's not like she's starving. 428 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.320 No, you're starving and desperate to feed your children. Yeah, one 429 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.280 hundred thousand It is a lot of money, but she's a nurse, she's 430 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.960 employed. She couldn't she just couldn't continue on the little lifestyle she wanted, 431 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.519 right, that's just sad. And she knew he was gonna find out, 432 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.360 right, right, But then so what if he did, well, maybe 433 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:46.280 he with divorce her or something. I don't know. I don't know. 434 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.159 He sound like a nice guy. He did he probably he probably would have 435 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.199 helped her pay it, all, right, right, right, probably been 436 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.400 like Okay, did she even love him? I know, did she love 437 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.239 him? That's just I don't think so. I don't think so. You 438 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.599 don't don't kill somebody you love, valid point, You don't making valid points. 439 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:09.239 You don't make a plan with a hundred people. That's true. Yeah, 440 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.440 I mean she's the best criminals. No, it's just wow, this 441 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.400 is just blew me away. 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