1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:05,719 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of Geek Verst Podcast. 2 00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:08,919 I am one of your hosts, the small business owner titlor Field, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,720 and I'm joined by I am the Mark Zero Kirk Colampatzer, and I am 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,320 the lone Lenny Dyla mus Taylor. Have you thought about saying halo everybody instead 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,359 of Hello? Oh? I like that. I'm gonna I'll pull that for 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,559 episode five, six, seven, eight? Nice okay reviews, because yes 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,679 we're reviewing hello. Is Deyla aluded to there? So Season two is well, 8 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:35,520 it's it's upon us and we're the halfway mark now and you can already 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,960 tell how he's so enthusiastic. We're gonna give you getting into it. I 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,880 can't wait. 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There's tons of great stuff 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,480 over there, a bunch of redtros. We just did the Twilight retro that's 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,200 over there right now, so tons of goodles of stuff. That episode is 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,239 getting high praise. I heard MUDs liked it and I went over Patreon, 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Tytler, I really loved it. So yeah, a lot of people are 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,799 liking the Twilight retrospective and paid for it specifically, so you know that. 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:37,120 I'm very glad you liked it. That what else I I guess I did 26 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:42,120 a bad Batch season three episodes one to three premiere spoilers review, and then 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,799 you guys did a Madame Web review. What else is cooking? We got 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,439 the Uh, well, we're currently watching Avatar Last Airbender and then Taylor and 29 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,000 not gonna be dropping a review for that. We haven't actually talked about the 30 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:56,959 day, so maybe we'll speak upon that off cast. But we're both on 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,519 episode three, so uh yeah, three of eight, So you can expect 32 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:05,120 that the very close in your future, and then we're recording a spicy newscasts 33 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:07,960 after this side quest. Me and Taylor had a really great discussion this week 34 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:13,159 talking about a bunch of Xbox News specifically, and next week me and Kirklan's 35 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,159 episode, I think is also gonna be very fun. So I go check 36 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:17,520 that out way for sure. We got due next week. That's gonna be 37 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:23,919 kind of like, my god, I still haven't mastered the chant, unfortunately. 38 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:27,080 I was very discord. That's like it's coming in a few days, 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 but it still doesn't sunk in until you said that for me. So that's 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:36,039 pretty exciting. Yeah, well, that's all the stuff. It's it's good 41 00:02:36,039 --> 00:02:38,719 stuff, great stuff, but we're here to talk about some questionable stuff, 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,080 at least for me. But how did how did you guys feel about Episode 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,120 four non spoilers of Halo. Uh? Yeah, I would say I was 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,879 disappointed in this episode. I have very low expectations just across the board with 45 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,319 this show, like coming off of season one, going into season two, 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,919 and it like it. It hasn't impressed me since the start of the episode. 47 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,520 I think it's like it peaked in that first opening scene in episode one, 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,039 and then since then it's just kind of skyrocketed down. Not like it's 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,719 just going further and further down, but it's just kind of scrape in the 50 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:15,560 bottom, I think, and and uh just just failing to trying to like 51 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:19,240 try to tread above water for me, because like this one, especially last 52 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,800 week's, like we knew we were getting into the big fall of Reach stuff, 53 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,800 and I was expecting a lot of big action, Like even though I'm 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,800 not high expectations of the quality, I was still expecting like a lot of 55 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,479 action and hopefully some some good just just some good moving sequences and action set 56 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:37,879 pieces, because I feel like something that the show does pretty well, in 57 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:42,080 my opinion is at least like like the quality maybe of their of their CGI 58 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:45,000 usage of like the plasma rifles, or just the way that the Covenant looks 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,120 like I actually think that does that stuff looks really great, you know, 60 00:03:47,199 --> 00:03:51,759 I said so many times they're like so good in the armor. Uh So 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,520 I was hoping for a lot of that in this episode, and I did 62 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,759 not get a lot of that in this episode. I feel like there was 63 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,680 maybe like one action sequence that I think looked pretty good, but other than 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,000 that, I feel like for this to be the big, the big climactic 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,879 like action episode, I thought it under delivered by far. And there's just, 66 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:15,759 yeah, a couple dialogue pieces between two or three characters that I just 67 00:04:15,959 --> 00:04:20,839 wasn't really loving, and yeah, just some consequence that like should have had 68 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:25,040 higher consequence I felt like didn't really it wasn't really there for me, and 69 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:29,240 I think that's just a result of of like the show failing and making me 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,000 get attached to certain characters. So yeah, overall, I'm not really liking 71 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:36,240 what I got from this week. It's kind of a reoccurring theme week to 72 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:40,439 week, but uh, yeah, this one was thumbs down for me. 73 00:04:41,319 --> 00:04:45,040 Yeah, it's another it's another week episode for me. But you know where 74 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,079 I actually do have some positives all on this one. There's certain character things 75 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,519 or certain dialogue stuff that I thought was pretty well done. And for the 76 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:56,399 first time in this show's history this season last season, I feel like this 77 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:59,079 had pretty good pacing. Like it was over and I was like, oh, 78 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:01,279 that actually went by. I had like a solid pace. I think 79 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:05,000 the where the pacing does fall off is when we were switching back to these 80 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,240 kind of secondary character storylines and then they kind of connect at the end. 81 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:12,120 That's just how this show is. They never really stick to just one thing 82 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,240 for one episode and then Yeah, I kind of with what you're saying, 83 00:05:15,319 --> 00:05:17,680 Kirklan. I'm just like the quality of the CG and the action. It's 84 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:24,199 like the stuff with the elites and the just Covenant related things that always looks 85 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:28,120 really great, with like maybe minor exceptions, but it's always like the human 86 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,399 stuff, whether it's like them CGI and movements of humans or just like weapons. 87 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,519 I'll talk about that more specifically later. That stuff just looked really weird 88 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:40,600 and cheap in this episode, which was kind of a bummer. So yeah, 89 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,680 another another week episode for me. But I at least had some some 90 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,480 bright spots in it, so I'll definitely bring those up when we get to 91 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:48,079 them, because that doesn't happen too often in the show for me. So 92 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:54,120 I'm gonna keep it short because I gotta hear Taylor's thoughts on this episode. 93 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,560 I'm glad that you have some bright spots because I know that there are some 94 00:05:57,639 --> 00:05:59,959 with this episode, but I just don't see them right now. I'm just 95 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,600 so angry you've seen Red. Yeah, I only seeing Red. There's man 96 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,800 there's certain things like I feel like I'm calling with the show and I fucking 97 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,800 hate that. I'm right, and there's one big thing and I got up. 98 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,839 I got up at like six am. I brought my daughter downstairs. 99 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:20,360 We're just having some breakfast. Like okay, I'm gonna I got I got 100 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,959 like two hours before work, I'm gonna watch Halo. I'm going to see 101 00:06:23,959 --> 00:06:28,040 what this is all about. And man, it just got It was so 102 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:31,279 disappointing. It was really really disappointing. It's just the first episode that your 103 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,879 daughters seen. She's kind of like one and two. No, I sit 104 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:40,720 up for midnight for that, and then three. She was there for three 105 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,720 and this is she was there for this one too as well. But yeah, 106 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:48,759 so this her first word off. I'm just curious if this was her 107 00:06:48,759 --> 00:06:55,399 first exposure. It's just like your lowest episode. So they did they they 108 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,959 did one line drop, and man, I was just ready to throw my 109 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,079 fucking cereal ball TV. I was like, this is this is fucking ridiculous, 110 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,639 and of course they fucking pull this ship. Oh my god, I 111 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,519 I all all this morning like it ruined my day. Pretty much, whole 112 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,040 day was fucking ruined. But I just wrote down notes. I just kept 113 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 running down every hour, and the discord was like a new Tailor post of 114 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:25,680 just disappointment and obvious or not obviously. I was just so upset. I 115 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,240 came home from work and I started telling Madison about how the episode sucked, 116 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,439 and I was like, I acknowledged her. I'm like, ye know, 117 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:33,560 this has no weight on your shoulders, so you don't know what I'm talking 118 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,639 about. But I'm just mad. And I all my notes that I wrote 119 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:40,839 down. I was just writing down all these shitty fucking all caps logs and 120 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:45,199 all your notes. I was just super super mad, super super maad. 121 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,879 There's another thing that happens in this episode, and I'm I'm hoping you guys 122 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:51,199 can confirm it for me, because from what I saw, I was like, 123 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,480 man, what the fuck? What is the Master keep doing in this 124 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,759 situation? I couldn't I couldn't believe it. It was really it's really questionable, 125 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,560 Like this guy should not be leading jack shit. When you say that, 126 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:07,920 I can instantly think of like three or four separate things that are like 127 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:11,480 why he was doing that, So I wonder what the one you're thinking about. 128 00:08:11,519 --> 00:08:15,480 Oh yeah, I'm just I'm not feeling good. I'm not feeling good. 129 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,959 Boys. This show is just really just wearing me down. You can't 130 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,199 watch Halo before work anymore. You can't have it just ruining your whole day. 131 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Oh no, I go to work and I'm angry at everybody. What's 132 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:30,519 wrong, Taylor? That fucking Halo show? I mean you want to talk 133 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,759 about I mean, we'll get to it later, but you know, at 134 00:08:31,799 --> 00:08:35,000 least Avatar was a way to kind of pick my spirits back up a little 135 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,799 bit after that. Don't go watch Avatar out of Halo now. Yeah, 136 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,480 but that's all I'm gonna leave on for For non spoilers, it's just fuck 137 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,399 sakes. So is there anything else you guys want to have before we get 138 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:54,559 into the spoilers? I don't think. So where do you guys want to 139 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,159 start? I guess three two one? Okay, we're in spoilers. Where 140 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:01,320 do you guys want to start? I want to know what the line was 141 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,799 that you're I feel like, I can't wait. You got to tell me. 142 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,399 Okay, okay, let me pull out my note here. Okay, 143 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:09,000 holy shit, So something he said or just how you said, how he 144 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,279 handled the situation? Well, that's different that's a different thing. A situation 145 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,080 is a different thing. But something that character said, uh, we have 146 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,759 okay, reach is just crumbling around. It's just fucking bonkers, and Master 147 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,240 Chief is just saying, okay, I gotta get to Fleet Calm. So 148 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,240 it's with Perez and all that, and they go, they're trying to get 149 00:09:28,279 --> 00:09:31,840 to Fleet Calm and they get there and you see uh Rids and you see 150 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,639 Vanic and Chief's just the whole time like I gotta get my arm. I 151 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:39,480 gotta get my armor, and what the fuck do this Vanik? First thing 152 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,039 he says, like the armor's gone. Suits, suits are not there, 153 00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:48,519 cheap. It's like, fuck, known, I f you predicted. That's 154 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,039 exactly what you predicted last week. You're like, you's not gonna have the 155 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:52,360 arm for the battle, and I'm like, I hope you're wrong. And 156 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,919 then as soon as you said the line, I was like picturing what you 157 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:58,320 would have reacted. I never thought you would have been throwing your cereal at 158 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,720 the TV. But man, they like repeat it multiple times too. And 159 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,360 then he's talking to Commander Keys later and reiterates that again as well, like 160 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,360 I don't know why they were trying to rub salt in the room. I 161 00:10:09,399 --> 00:10:13,159 think they were really trying to just justify him not having the armor by giving 162 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,840 us various explanations, but none of the explanations are really satisfying. There's like 163 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,840 it's gone. I guess I don't know where when the actresson did someone it? 164 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,360 I don't really have answer for you. So it's weird that they brought 165 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,480 it up as much as they did. But yeah, I mean that's such 166 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,399 a huge miss. I feel bad for you, Taylor in particular, just 167 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,799 because this scene, you know, the fall of Reach has been something you've 168 00:10:33,799 --> 00:10:37,639 been looking forward to since like season one, the end of season one, 169 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:39,879 this whole season because we know we're leading up to it, and to have 170 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,679 this and just not have the most iconic thing that makes Halo Halo there, 171 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:50,120 it's like, goddamn, what a bizarre choice that they made here, And 172 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,519 you know, you feel like, like, Okay, what was the purpose 173 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:56,240 of it, Like what do they gain from doing it? I guess they're 174 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,480 like, maybe Pablo is a really great actor and you can kick convey some 175 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:01,679 of this, but I don't know if that's the case. You know, 176 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,960 I think the one thing that we do get is I like I like the 177 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,039 scene when Commander Keys brings up Chief and he like introduces him to all these 178 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,080 soldiers because they don't know what he looks like. And that's cool, But 179 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:15,639 you don't need him to not have the suit at all for that scene to 180 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:16,960 happen. You just have him take the helmet off for a minute, just 181 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,679 to help motivate them by being like, Oh, I'm a human too, 182 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:22,000 you know, I don't know whatever it is. There's a lot of ways 183 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:26,120 you could still get that scene without this whole, like this whole choice to 184 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,799 not have the iconic suit in there. It's really a bad choice. Yeah, 185 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:33,759 No, I like from that point on, I was just like in 186 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:37,639 my mind thinking of like why is this necessary, you know, like like 187 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:41,440 like why does he like what story purpose does he have to not have the 188 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:45,080 armor for? Like like what what type of growth of a characters are going 189 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,200 to have for like not having the armor. And I don't think they ever 190 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:52,200 really go there. I think there's like very weak attempts at like trying to 191 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 have like a like a kind of what you're saying, just let Pablo like 192 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:58,840 act with another character. And I don't think that happens at all, especially 193 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,240 with Perez like I feel like those two chemistry. I'm just like, like, 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,320 why is PRESI been here anymore? Like she could have just perished in 195 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,399 the church. I think I would have been okay with it, Like there's 196 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,799 no like major story thing. You could have had any character fly fly the 197 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,559 ship away at the end, like it doesn't have to be her, And 198 00:12:15,879 --> 00:12:18,480 I do agree with you. I actually really liked pretty much the whole like 199 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:24,080 from start to finish with Keys and Chief, Like from the point where that 200 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,279 one or sorry when Chief asks like who's in charge and then he goes over 201 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,559 and talks to Keys, Like I think that part basically to the end is 202 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,799 like really strong, well not till the end of the episode, just this 203 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:37,279 is the end of the Keys part. Yeah, And like in my mind, 204 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,240 I'm just like, man like, I really don't think they juiced that 205 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,559 character enough for the entire show, Like that actor is actually like really good 206 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:48,360 with at least for how that scene went. So I personally feel rob that 207 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,639 they didn't utilize that a little bit more because it just seemed like in previous 208 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:56,639 episodes he would always be distanced from Chief and like kind of dealing with like 209 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:00,440 the high top stuff and then always being like kind of on that side, 210 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,480 and then by the end he's like, fuck those guys. So I am 211 00:13:03,639 --> 00:13:07,600 sad that we didn't get more of him kind of being almost like the sergeant 212 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,840 what was his name, Sergeant Johnson type role, like like I wanted that 213 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:15,240 kind of in between thing, but unfortunately didn't get that. So I thought 214 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:18,159 that was strong and I do agree. I think it's funny because I think 215 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,120 I was posting that question last week about like doesn't everyone just know who Chief 216 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,000 is? Like when he was just walking along the streets, I'm like, 217 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,080 how is nobody like just like taking selfies with this guy? Like he feels 218 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,279 like the icon here. They kind of laid it out that obviously not like 219 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,200 even the soldiers don't know what he looks like, let alone the people out 220 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 there. So I did like, how that was mind changer guy, he's 221 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,320 changing, Yeah exactly, that's right. Yeah, so I guess all those 222 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,399 people that work there know exactly who he is. But yeah, and like 223 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,039 the action sequences, I'm just like, man, like this looks exactly how 224 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,879 he fights with the armor on, Like I like it almost like diminishes the 225 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:58,320 effect of the armor other than just looking like a badass. By the end, 226 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,159 like he takes like one blaster shot by that that elite that just gets 227 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:03,960 decapitated, and then it's like, Okay, I guess he's a little bit 228 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,519 more vulnerable, but like you could have had that same reaction with the armor 229 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,759 on right, just say that, like the shields are down and that's how 230 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:13,279 he gets hit. So I just I do not like the reason on why 231 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:18,240 they lose the armor. I don't even like have faith that like next episode 232 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,080 if it's like our goal is to get our armor back, like they just 233 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,600 kind of lost me at this point, Like I don't really care about that. 234 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:26,519 I think when he eventually gets the armor again and we do have a 235 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:30,559 cool action scene, I'll at least like it for the eye pleasure. What's 236 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,799 going on. But yeah, that was a big letdown, and I was 237 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,559 really hoping Taylor was going to be wrong with this prediction, but but you 238 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:43,399 were right. Yeah, It's just it's so unfortunate. Like the whole scene 239 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,360 of them bringing Chief up and trying to boost the morale, it's already depressing 240 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,720 enough because they're saying, yeah, you're if you stay here and fight, 241 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:54,879 it's you're you're not gonna make it. Here's master Chief, who's gonna fight 242 00:14:54,919 --> 00:14:58,879 with you, but he doesn't have his armor either. I'm just mad about 243 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:03,039 how they handled all all of this because Reaches, it's it's a fortress, 244 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:07,080 and they're they're treating it like this is the only city on the planet and 245 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,519 the city is being destroyed. Obviously, but I feel like Reach, at 246 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,559 least in a game, Reach is so much more larger and expansive, and 247 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,000 you have the whole planet fighting, But here the fight's been going on for 248 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:24,279 a couple hours and now the power has been turned off, and like everything, 249 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,159 like what the fuck? Like, Reach is just so much more larger 250 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,159 scale. I get it, you don't have that kind of a budget because 251 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:33,279 you took the budget away from Chief Suit and put it towards adding like a 252 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,679 billion fucking jackals in one little hangar scene. So I understand that, But 253 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,879 other than that, it's just it's such a shame. I feel like the 254 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:43,480 scale isn't there, and so many things were missed. And just the fact 255 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,039 too that Akerson. In summary, Akerson left the planet and Spartan twos, 256 00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:54,000 which costs I believe it's like the cost of like a small fucking fleet of 257 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,879 ships. You know, we're going to let them all die on the planet, 258 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:00,879 leave them behind, and then take their fucking armor away from them. 259 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,399 Why don't you evacuate the Spartan twos? Why don't you get them out of 260 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,559 there or just leave them the other I don't know, Like there's just some 261 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:14,320 fucking bullshit like with this. It's just, man, I just don't get 262 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,000 it, and it bothers me. I agree, Like if they're trying to 263 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:21,799 take the suits to save the cost of just the suits, even though the 264 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:25,200 Spartans themselves are a lot more expensive than the suits. Fuck, the whole 265 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,639 planet of Reach is probably a hundred times a million times more expensive than those 266 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:33,399 Spartans, So like, at least give them the tools to fight, take 267 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,759 out as many as they can to at least delay the like it. They 268 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,799 didn't even try to explain like the reasoning of it. And I know we 269 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,000 didn't see Acerson and those like higher ups. So maybe if someone wants to, 270 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,399 you know, play Devil's advocate, they could just say, oh wait, 271 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,919 wait till next week. Then they'll might have an explanation. Like I 272 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,919 just have no faith in the show to actually explain that and explain it in 273 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,679 a way that it's satisfying, Like it just seems yeah, that's just the 274 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:59,879 way it is. Where it take his armor, He's just gonna be this 275 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,400 samurai with no armor and just like fight to the last man. And when 276 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,440 they're like holding the line with all the army men at the end like he 277 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,720 they had, like the Spartans end up just like leaving like the group anyways, 278 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:15,559 right because the Marine's like we got this cheap like like they like, 279 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,920 I know he's doing it to help other people escape, but it's almost like 280 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,920 what Akerson's doing, like you just you're just letting the more valuable target leave 281 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,319 while the foot soldiers Pairish. I just kind of chuckle in that scene because 282 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,200 it's like so much for holding the line, Like I feel like they're fighting 283 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,160 for like five more minutes then they just take the back route. But well, 284 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,519 on that on that note, and it's kind of all involved with the 285 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:41,480 scene of him just with with Perez and and him trying to get to flee 286 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,240 COM. There's a scene here and this is something that he did that made 287 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:52,759 me question leadership because they're trying to get to flee comm so uh, basically, 288 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:55,960 if you imagine the scene they get into the alleyway where all the marines 289 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,359 are fighting. And this is after Chief like fucking football tackles the Elite fight 290 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,039 see Elite and all that which that's the whole other thing in itself. But 291 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,559 he's with Perez. Perez is tripping out trying to warn everyone, and Chief's 292 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:08,240 like, no, so that's too late. Let's get the fleet calm. 293 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:11,759 So they're moving out into where the alleyway is. The humans are fighting, 294 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:17,640 and there's a warthog that's still semi destroyed, and there's one marine up against 295 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,599 it, and he's like he's pinned down, but he's like holding his holding, 296 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,519 he's holding his ground right, and so Marine Chief and Perez is dead 297 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:30,680 last. Chief's in the middle. And I swear to God, like so 298 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,119 when Chief pushed, I wrote this is how I wrote it out. When 299 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,119 Chief pushed from the cover of the war dog with Perez, he was yelling 300 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,759 out like go, go go. And this was after, I guess, 301 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:44,720 so they had This is after they evacuate people from Fleet Calm. But this 302 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,359 marine that was next to him, I swear to God, Chief literally just 303 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,200 fucking shoves him out into the open and gets he literally explodes. The marine 304 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,839 dies and silly Chief literally like yells out, go go go, as if 305 00:18:56,839 --> 00:19:00,359 it's clear, but the marine takes all the fucking fire and Chief just them 306 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:06,359 out and he dies. I felt so bad for this marine. I I, 307 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,319 I really did you catch that? I did not catch it? I 308 00:19:10,759 --> 00:19:12,920 did, I didn't catch it either. But that doesn't surprise me, just 309 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,279 because there's multiple moments in here that I'm just like, do I even know 310 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,160 Chief as a character at this point? Because he just seems to not give 311 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,119 a shit about anyone at all, And that was like really shocking to me. 312 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:26,960 It doesn't make me want to root for the character personally. And but 313 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,160 yeah, there's like that that moment with Perez when she's trying to help people 314 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,599 in the street and he's like, ah, fuck it, they're they're doomed, 315 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Like just leave them. One of the more shocking things to me was 316 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,319 Perez is like, I go back for my family, and he's like, 317 00:19:38,559 --> 00:19:42,559 they're gone. Let's get out of here. Why would anyone in that situation 318 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,480 say that. First of all, he doesn't know shit, he doesn't know 319 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,400 they're gone. He's just telling this lady that her family is dead and just 320 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,759 forget about it and let's go immediately seems very unchief, like very unheroic as 321 00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:56,720 far as I'm concerned. But yeah, then you're right there just kind of 322 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,039 like abandoning people in the streets that doesn't I want to warn people, doesn't 323 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:03,039 even want to try and warm people. Also, I don't know how those 324 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,440 people like in that area weren't aware of what was going on, But that's 325 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,519 beside the point. So yeah, I I all that was just really rubbed 326 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:14,880 me the wrong way. Like this chief guy is pretty nasty, hey, 327 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,519 and so does it surprise me that he threw some guy out there to get 328 00:20:18,519 --> 00:20:22,319 exploded and take shots for them. Man when he has they have like a 329 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,440 moment of just to catch their breath between him and Perez. And that's when 330 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,400 I think it's Perez. Uh, correct me if it's a different character. 331 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,480 But that's when he basically is explaining how like he does all these battles and 332 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,799 and he doesn't die because he's just lucky. Like when you flip the coin 333 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,960 eleven times the Future, I was that scene, Yeah exactly, He's like 334 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,559 he's got foresight or something along those lines, because he's like, oh, 335 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,119 yeah, I flipped the coin eleven times. I knew what it was it's 336 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,480 it's the same thing with battle, like I a lot of people are gonna 337 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,359 die, but I know I'm always gonna live. And then and then there's 338 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,960 fucking scenes like Taylor's laid out that he's just tossing marines into the open fire, 339 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,000 no wonder he's surviving all these fights, like he's very questionable just outlook 340 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,000 on war. It's almost as if he has like no like humanity in him, 341 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,240 like, oh, it doesn't matter, like I'm always gonna survive, 342 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,960 So it doesn't really matter who who dies along the way, because I know 343 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,160 it's not gonna be me. And I don't know if that was supposed to 344 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,759 be like a video game type thing, because it's like it doesn't matter how 345 00:21:18,759 --> 00:21:22,680 hard the mission is, like you know, along the storyline, Chief makes 346 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,759 it through like it's it's a linear story, so you know how it's gonna 347 00:21:25,799 --> 00:21:27,079 go. I don't know if that was the attempt there, but it just 348 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:32,400 seemed like such a weird dialogue sequence amongst those two, and that was the 349 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,119 one I was just I was just like scratching my head. I'm like, 350 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,759 why I even have this dialogue, Like it's not making us like Chief anymore 351 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,640 because he's saying it in a way that he's like a tortured soul, like 352 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,440 oh yeah, or who's like not trying to act at all. But to 353 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,640 me, if that's like trying, I like the games anyway, Like that's 354 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,799 a complete fail because when I'm playing the games and I am master Chief, 355 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,599 I want to save every last soldier I can. They're super squishy, they'll 356 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,559 die to anything, but I get bummed when they die, not that they're 357 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:00,599 really helping me in anyway. I'm way more power powerful than any one or 358 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,480 ten of those soldiers, but I still want every last one of them. 359 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:06,759 Is like, if I can have a full ward Hog like that, let's 360 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,400 go. That is all I preferred state of being in the game. So, 361 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,880 I mean, I know the creators of this show don't really care about 362 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,519 the games. They talked about that was season one, right, but yeah, 363 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,039 like that also just didn't make me. They didn't listit the feelings I 364 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:22,680 get when I'm master Chief. Taylor, what was the other thing that it 365 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,440 wasn't a ligne You said it was another choice of his or something. Yeah, 366 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,079 well there was that one, and then I guess just kind of piggybacking 367 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:33,880 on what you're saying Kirkling about how he's talking about I flip a coin and 368 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,200 called it eleven times, which that's sticking to the lore. You know, 369 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:41,039 he did get tested by Halsey and he kept when he was a kid, 370 00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:42,960 and he kept being able to call it heads or tails. And that's one 371 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,559 of the reasons why Halsey recruited him, because he had this luck factor. 372 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:52,000 It was just something, and that's genetic superiority over other humans. It's luck. 373 00:22:52,039 --> 00:22:55,400 It's not like the ability to see the future. No, not not 374 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,680 seeing the future. It's just luck. But you never get this ego histical 375 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:04,359 sense of superiority from Chief in any of the games or any other media. 376 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,599 He just it's even like he just disregards this luck factor and he just to 377 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,920 himself, he tells himself like, hey, I have a job to do 378 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,559 a duty and responsibility and I'm gonna do what I can and do my best, 379 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,960 do the best that I can. And that has that is morphed to 380 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:26,440 a slight degree throat Halo to the point where he's turned on humanity at times 381 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,960 trying to try to save Cortana. And this is the point where and you 382 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,960 have a scene that mirrors this. I can't remember the pilot's name, but 383 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:40,559 he's the main character with Chief and Halo Infinite Infinite and you have a wonderful 384 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,559 moment. And this, this cut scene in Halo Infinite just brings me to 385 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,160 tears every time I watch it, because the pilot just admits he's a coward. 386 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,000 He can't handle this anymore, being trapped on this, on this four 387 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,920 hundred planet, he just can't deal with anymore. And Chief just consoles him 388 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,960 and lets him know like we all make mistakes, We're only human and yeadea 389 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,640 yeah, like, but we can do this together. And with Perez pez 390 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Is, like you just went through there. You weren't like the chaos and 391 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,640 people are dying and you just like I'm the scenes are mirroring each other in 392 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,519 my opinion, where she's just implying like like I don't know how you can 393 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,640 do this, like what's wrong with you kind of a thing, like I'm 394 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,400 not you, and he's basically just implying like once we get there, like 395 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,640 oh, you can just go off on your own way do what you want 396 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,839 to do, like I need to get my armor. It's like, man, 397 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,680 you're such a fucking brick come on, you fucking and yes. So 398 00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:34,079 anyways, when he's talking about, like I flipped a coin, call eleven 399 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,160 times since then, I knew every time I go into battle, it's not 400 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,359 gonna be me like you, how's that going to motivate any fucking marine? 401 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,400 You tell them you have some god complex, like you know what I mean. 402 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000 I flipped the fucking coin. I'm not gonna die, but you you 403 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,759 might fucking die. Your family's already dead, You're probably gonna die. I'm 404 00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,039 not looking good for you. Jesus not a motivational speaker. So I'm glad 405 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,599 he didn't really say much or anything when Keys brought him up, because if 406 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:03,559 Keys would have brought up his master chief one you have any words, John, 407 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:10,759 He's like, I flipped I know, I'm not. I want to 408 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,559 see that edit. And instead of just flipping the one coin like he does, 409 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,920 the President, the end just throws like a bag full of coins. 410 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,240 I yeah, the Perez thing. It's like, I just don't understand the 411 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:26,240 purpose of the character in the in the setting of this show and what it's 412 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,960 supposed to do for this story. And I wonder if it's I feel like 413 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,400 they kind of this this in season one with with Kwan, where Kwan was 414 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,680 like under Chief's wing, and it seems like they really like that in this 415 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240 show to have a civilian type character that's under his wing maybe add more personal 416 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,359 touch, I hope for their sake. It's not just like his acting ability 417 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,759 is not there or or he's not being directed to really emote much. So 418 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,720 we're gonna give you a character who's gonna react in a bigger way. In 419 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,240 the case of season one, Kwan could react a more logical way to like 420 00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:02,160 the stuff that's happening on Madrigal because that's uh people from or his press, 421 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,799 like her family here on Reach. And so I don't know if that is 422 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,960 the core purpose of it, but I don't I don't think we need that. 423 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,160 And if that is your only attempt at making me care for the people 424 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,279 of Reach, like the civilians on the ground, it's just not working because 425 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:19,000 you're not giving the time there and there isn't really much of a narrative purpose. 426 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:23,440 So it and it also just made that whole thing feel like Chief was 427 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,319 really lollygagging to get to the fleet calm wherever he was going. He's helping 428 00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:33,720 this lady move a typewriter to the top of a shelf, he's talking, 429 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,720 he's picking up an axe, he's moving so slowly through there, actively not 430 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:42,359 fighting at all, And I feel like that whole sequence was very strange to 431 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,200 me, and I'm just struggling to see what the purpose is. Maybe by 432 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,599 the end of the season, I'll I'll see, Oh, that's why they 433 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,839 wanted to have this Prez character in there. Nothing to gain the actress, 434 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,960 because I think she's doing more acting than Pablo, and she's better, but 435 00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,480 you know, she's just not as meaningful to the actual plot of the show. 436 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,720 She just seems like attachment there for a purpose I don't yet see. 437 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,759 Yeah, it's it's like they want to have a character that has a lot 438 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:11,599 more humanity I guess, like more so on the military side, and then 439 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,680 like to I guess explain those things chief because they even have that one's sequence 440 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480 when I think it's they're just running from the Covenant, trying to get to 441 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,039 flee calm, and then she just stops because she's freaking out, and it's 442 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:25,039 like, I can't handle this. My training never prepared me for this. 443 00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,599 And Pablo is just like just a fucking brick and he's just like flee, 444 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,960 calm, need my arm or let's go or actually, yeah, that's that's 445 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,960 when he says that line that like you can just like you can go find 446 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,680 your dead family or whatever it is. I'm paraphrasing, but it's just the 447 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,839 lines. Like that's how it felt though, because he just only cares about 448 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,279 getting to flee, com getting his arm or so he could just fucking rack 449 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920 him up and then add to his kilt guns. He knows he's not dying 450 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,559 and he wants his full load out for that. But like when that happened, 451 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,079 it's just like, why even have this this dialogue. It's not like 452 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,559 I'm seeing some little hints and seeds of growth from from master Chief. Now 453 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,079 he doesn't have his mask on, I can show that actor act his ass 454 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,559 off, and that just did not happen. The whole like pawnshop thing with 455 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:07,839 that lady. I was just baffled. I'm like, I have no idea 456 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,319 why we're taking away from some cool action sequences for this for this here, 457 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,079 Like I I don't like this at all. I like the idea from like 458 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,480 a world building perspective, but in the context of like the Fall of Reach, 459 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:23,240 it's not good like that should be something when the stakes are much lower 460 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,440 and yeah, you're exploring the city or you meet this person, but yeah, 461 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,599 in this situation, it doesn't really work as well. It's like you 462 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,599 said, like like there should just be such an urgency and yet he's like 463 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,720 helping her lift up this typewriter and like like he he he goes from not 464 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,799 even wanting Perez to like warn these people because he just doesn't have time. 465 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,519 He goes he has to get to flee Cam to just having like a one 466 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:48,960 on one like talk with with this lady in her pawnshop and Prez freaking out 467 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,799 and he's like she doesn't want to know, she doesn't want to whatever. 468 00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,119 The line was like, it's just man, that the dialogue the acting was 469 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,960 so bad in that moment and that that's it's just to me where I'm like, 470 00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:04,039 I want the parallel universe that just shows me the show that was just 471 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:07,480 like straight up action scenes. It's just like straight up cut scenes from Halo, 472 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,920 like in the suits and everything. Like I want to see that that 473 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:15,160 whole show. But that's a completely different show from the ground up, and 474 00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,400 that's not what we're getting. I zero faith that season three is gonna transition 475 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,240 into more of that. So I think I should have, I guess, 476 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,519 tempered my expectations, but I always just get hope my hopes up. I 477 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,680 guess I don't know. I probably just because it is an ip that I 478 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,799 am at least interested in, but I keep letting them hurt me. I 479 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,519 didn't like the whole scene with Chief and pres there in that shop, I 480 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,440 didn't care for. But everything with the lady just trying to explain why she 481 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,839 cares about these things and the wars they survived, and just this really old 482 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,799 connection to Earth. I really like that, And I like I like when 483 00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:56,000 Halo touches on those those things a little bit too just Earth. It's just 484 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,200 it's just neat and just seeing how she's just praising these forms of technology and 485 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:04,400 such a like sci fi future. I like that. I thought it was 486 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:07,440 a nice, humbling little moment, like a little bit of world building. 487 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,559 But yeah, again, just Chief not in his armor and the dialogue from 488 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,200 them being just kind of weird just makes sense to me. Is there a 489 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,359 Halo game? It might be like Halo three or four, but like, 490 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,319 when did do they ever go to Earth? And Halo two Halo to opens 491 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200 up on earkay, Okay, I definitely don't remember Halo two at all. 492 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,359 Watch watching this episode, it should make me want to go play Reach or 493 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,880 Infinite because I don't play that campaign. But I was like, man, 494 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,759 I can really go for some ODST right now that I just want. I 495 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,200 just want like the Desolate Streets. That's like the one right now with my 496 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,160 Halo. That's a class like yeah, ods T, Yeah, that's that's 497 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,319 Earth. Halo two's Earth, Halo three is Earth. I think that's everything. 498 00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,960 What more games than I expected, honestly, Yeah, I just thought 499 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,200 most of them were like on I don't know, I guess Reach or the 500 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:04,119 Halos themselves, most of them ships. Yeah, what else do I got 501 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:10,799 to complain about? Well? One one another thing from that base camp scene 502 00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,799 that we were talking about when I guess when everyone kind of meets up there 503 00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:19,839 towards the end, was uh. I was pretty disappointed that Cobalt being like 504 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Cobalt Team being killed was just like a random one off line, because that 505 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:29,119 was something that we really built up a lot for like an episode and a 506 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,079 half pretty much. And then Commander Keys just drops in a little one liner 507 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,599 there, and once again Pablo, who's really cared about them, and that 508 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720 was why he got in trouble and was disobeying orders because he wanted to go 509 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,839 save them or find out what was going on. Once again, doesn't really 510 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:47,559 react, he doesn't have any line of dialogue that addresses it either. Uh. 511 00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,359 And then we know Pablo, Yeah, he's not really emoting much. 512 00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,519 He's the brick. So that was pretty disappointed to me. And you know, 513 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,680 COBALT's not like we've been built up to see a ton of them and 514 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,279 we know their personalities and I actively care about their faith, but I just 515 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:05,200 felt like they still deserved more than what we got, uh from them. 516 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,519 And yeah, within three or four sentence sentences, Commander Cues is already onto 517 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,720 a new topic and that was brushing on the rug and we will probably not 518 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,319 hear about them again for the rest of the season and therefore ever. So 519 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,960 it's like, I don't know that that seemed like a really weird setup of 520 00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,440 two or three episodes. I think the show does that where they like build 521 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,880 up random, smaller things and then just don't really fulfill them, and it 522 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,440 just I don't know, It's like, obviously it's not the main a plot, 523 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:31,759 but it still feels like important to the story in the world, and 524 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:37,279 we're just kind of brushing it under the rug for whatever reason, time budget, 525 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:45,359 I don't know. Yeah, it's a shame. Damn shamea shame, 526 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,599 shame. Uh, let's jump to a quick ad break and we'll be right 527 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,000 back and we're back then when you're complaining about I think it was the no 528 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,960 armor line. I just was picturing you at like six thirty in the morning 529 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:02,359 eating your cereal. You're just waited your whole life for this live action full 530 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,240 of reach and that that's just the line. The nail in the coffin makes 531 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960 you toss to your cereal of the screen. It's a funny image. I 532 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:13,799 was, I was, I did message to this, but I was just 533 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480 laughing during those scenes and I feel bad about laughing, but I was like, 534 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,240 man, I can't. I can just imagine Taylor. Yeah. Now, 535 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,119 now, whenever something that happens, I'm just gonna imagine the cereal hitting 536 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,559 the TV's that's gonna be the image of my head. Well, it's like 537 00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:29,559 they rip the band aid off or something right like it like kept waiting, 538 00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:31,160 like when's he gonna get the suit? Is gonna be a cool armor suit? 539 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,400 Up moment. It's like, no suits, no suits, no suits. 540 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:40,160 We could have got a beautiful live action scene of armored master Chief holding 541 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,640 an energy sword. Do you know what we got fucking little Pablo holding energy 542 00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,759 Okay, he's a little Pablo now in this scene, little Pablo. He 543 00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:54,920 held that sword for probably two point one seconds before he just got capped and 544 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,400 then he dropped. Yeah. I you're right though, Like that's should have 545 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,200 been such an epic moment, like the like the energy swords, they like 546 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,039 they look sweet amongst the show. Like again, it ties into just the 547 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:13,599 cgi of the Covenant and like those scenes actually looking really good. And I 548 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,159 agree, I think it would have hit so much harder with the armor on. 549 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:21,239 But like that was just such a like I didn't even feel anything. 550 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,159 I think in that moment of like him like grasping the the I guess the 551 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,400 hilt of the sword and then just fu compowering up. Like that should have 552 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,440 been one of those moments where I'm like on the edge of my chair and 553 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,639 it just didn't have that effect at all. And I part of it is 554 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,400 probably due to the armor. Part of it is probably to do with like 555 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,199 the fact that they have I don't know who that elite is supposed to be. 556 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,719 I don't think the are you serious, it's not the we've come to 557 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,599 know. Oh okay, that's the position that makes sense. I guess, 558 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,599 is that like a military rank essentially, Yeah, it's it's from mind insights, 559 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,280 not insight my knowledge. It's that the arbiter used to be a much 560 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,360 more like among like the elites culture. The arbiter was like the b bee's 561 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,599 knees you wanted. It was a huge, great warrior. And so the 562 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:15,599 Covenant, I believe, kind of transition that where disgraced kind of elites would 563 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,280 be donning the armor of the arbiter, and to be an arbiter, you'd 564 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,000 be tasked with going on missions where you're not going to survive. You're doing 565 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:27,199 the most perilous, dangerous things and they're expecting you to die. And there's 566 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320 been a lot of arbiters and we've seen two. We've seen uh, the 567 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,679 one arbiter in Halo Wars one, and then we've seen Alpha dam who was 568 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,840 the other main arbiter we've come to love from Halo two all the way up 569 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,360 to Halo five Guardians, So got nice. I don't know who the one 570 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,000 is I hope this one's not the arbiter. We like the is it the 571 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:50,079 same armor of the arbiter? They just like rip it off. It's they 572 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:52,360 all look the same, like, well, no, no, that that's 573 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,440 that. I don't know. I think it's all multiple sets of arbiter armour. 574 00:35:54,519 --> 00:36:00,440 But this elite looks all these arbiters are just dying. Oh yeah, 575 00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,360 interesting. Yeah, I mean I guess it makes sense that it would be 576 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,320 in that higher position and paired up with I always forget her name Marquis Marquise 577 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,840 seven, Marquis McKee McKee, No r there you go, I was completely 578 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,719 wrong, like paired up with her. I guess that makes sense. But 579 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,360 like have they name drop that he that that elite is the arbiter at any 580 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,639 point in the show, like has him and master Chief dueled off? Like 581 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,360 like I feel it it's as if it's like this is that the same one 582 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,239 like in that opening like foggy battle section, because there was clearly one who 583 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,880 was like the leader of that group and McKee was there too, so maybe 584 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,800 that I guess, yeah, this rivalry, but it doesn't really come across 585 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,239 that way. Yeah, it's as if they've like dueled at the end of 586 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,320 last season and like, oh barely got away, like I'll remember you. 587 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Like we haven't had any of those moments or even just dialogue amongst this Arbiter 588 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,159 and McKee to like be talking about the chiefs that, like, you know, 589 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,480 he he has this like honor pack to just one v one him, 590 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:07,679 And I think even just having the other elite shoot him there, like it 591 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,199 had no effect because I was just like, what the fuck is going on 592 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,559 here? Like, are they really like blood rivals? Like they just did 593 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,679 such a good job, but I think setting the setting the table for this 594 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,519 big feast of a battle that we were supposed to get, and it just 595 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,360 super underdelivered. And that's not just because he got cheap shotted by the plasma 596 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,239 rifle, Like it's just like it just the one on one combat in general, 597 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,000 Like it just seemed like, like, I don't know, very lackluster. 598 00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,760 Yeah, there's no reason for McKee and the Arbiter to actually be there 599 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960 either. They got Kurtana and so they could have left. They didn't have 600 00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:44,119 to go and be like let's take a detour and just fuck these guys up. 601 00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:45,559 But that's entparently, what the Arbiter wanted to do. And on top 602 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,599 of that, yeah, you're You make a good point because there's no pre 603 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:57,440 existing build up of this, this dynamic between Arbiter and Master Chief at least 604 00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:01,159 how I feel whatsoever. So what the building up here feels like it's Avengers 605 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,840 endgame, where Thanos it's like, I don't even know who you are and 606 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,760 Wanda's like, you took everything from me, and so Arbiter is basically like, 607 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Chief, you took everything from me, and she's like, I don't 608 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,159 even know who you are, Like what's going on here? So that's what 609 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,440 it feels like. Equivalents. Maybe that's what they're going for the other Oh, 610 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,280 there's a couple of other battle sequeens haven't talked about. But once Chief 611 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:30,239 groups up with with Riz and that whole crew, we get that sequence where 612 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,440 I think Lewis is his name. It was like that the physical the therapist 613 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,679 guy, the physio. Right, do you guys remember Lewis? So I 614 00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:42,079 sounded I think his partner died and then he and then he wanted to sacrifice 615 00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,039 himself, right, And I didn't really I guess the partner dying was the 616 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,760 guy like in the previous room with like the his chest open. I just 617 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,679 like didn't even recognize him, so that after I kind of pieced it together 618 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400 afterwards, but didn't really have that emotional effect. But you know, that's 619 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:02,320 one thing I do want to give credit to this show four is that oftentimes 620 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,840 and things like this big battle sequences, like usually your main characters aren't dying, 621 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:12,480 or like one character will die, or like one lower tier character will 622 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,280 die, and Lewis is a lower tier character. But then we also had 623 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,000 Vanig die and Commander Keys later in the episode. So I think in terms 624 00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,639 of steaks so far in just like what seems like part one of the fall 625 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:24,079 of Reach, and I have to I mean, this next episode has to 626 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,239 be more Reach stuff because we're still in the thick of it. I think 627 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,719 that's good that they're having the stakes there and they had one, like a 628 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,360 tier character die and like a couple couple smaller ones as well. I don't 629 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840 think that Lewis one really affected me all that much, and honestly neither did 630 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,639 the Vanik one, although I thought the Vanick like the the elite grabbing the 631 00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:49,159 needle and like, I don't think this is how they work in the games 632 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,280 or anything, but grabbing the needle from the needler and just stabbing into his 633 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,000 chest and it blowing up was like that was some gangster shit, I really 634 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,400 really beautiful. Yeah, yeah, that was super cool. But yeah, 635 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,519 going back to that earlier sequence, I don't know, the death of Louis 636 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:08,719 and the sacrifice there do much for you guys. Unfortunately, not like we 637 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,000 did get some time amongst those two other characters, especially even just Lewis's interaction. 638 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,079 Well, I guess riz in like interaction with both those characters. I 639 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,679 thought they at least try to make us get attached to it, but personally, 640 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,639 I just feel like maybe we didn't have enough time for it. And 641 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,079 also maybe it's just because they only had interacted with Riz, Like if there 642 00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:31,719 was some other connection amongst some of the other characters, maybe I would have 643 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,880 been a little bit more attached to them, because yeah, like I kind 644 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,079 of did what you did. Like I didn't realize it was Lewis's partner that 645 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,679 perished there, but it was just like, why is Riz so upset? 646 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,719 And then when Louis was asking about it, that's kind of when it clicked. 647 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,400 But I kind of even just forgot that he was there because I don't 648 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,199 know. I just I don't know. I don't know why I thought that 649 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,360 I would just kind of assumed that he was out of harm's way, but 650 00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,719 got marked there and then yeah, right away, Lewis just sacrifices himself, 651 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,960 and I just I kind of chuckle to myself because you have like Lewis, 652 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,079 who's this blind guy with a noob tube, and he's just like that is 653 00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:12,400 such a dangerous weapon to like, I get it. You know, he's 654 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,199 he's somewhat gone through the Spartan training program, Like he's definitely heightened and way 655 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,239 better than probably most of those marines that we come across. But there's just 656 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,360 a moment when he's like waiting to hear them, and then he just turns 657 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239 around and just like shoots a shot into a bunch of elites. I'm like, 658 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,880 man, like if he heard someone else and just like turn and just 659 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,280 shot like a bunch of civilians with his noobtube, I'm like, this is 660 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,920 really the best idea here. But they set him up as like Daredevil. 661 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,039 They've said him no, like, hey, I went through this, I 662 00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:43,360 came up with this disability and then I stopped going into combat because of it. 663 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,679 Then he's just out here and he's just as proficient as he was. 664 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,679 Yeah, I assumed. I don't know why they took him off the force, 665 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,159 like, let be part of it. He's clearly pretty successful here. 666 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,239 No, absolutely, And like when like the I guess the Resistance was first 667 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,480 starting and like you had Lewis when in the group there, like they were 668 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,920 going together, I was like, Okay, I kind of like this rag 669 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,800 tag team. But literally like five minutes later, it seemed that they just 670 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,679 died, and it just didn't really hit hard with me on those those saying 671 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,119 goodbye to those characters, even though I like last week I did like their 672 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,119 moments between them and Riz for sure, but yeah, yeah, a little 673 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:23,840 bit let down. Yeah, they didn't have enough enough weight behind the characters 674 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,280 for me to really latch onto them because we see Riz, we see Chief, 675 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,679 Perez, five Marines, and then both the Lewis and and the other 676 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,360 Spartan and they all die except for Perez, Riz and Chief, which is 677 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,719 sad, it's unfortunate, but there's no connection with these characters. I feel 678 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:47,480 like the screen time with them was minutes throughout season two, and I feel 679 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:53,280 like at this point, it's just a man the old catchphrase for Halo is 680 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,400 spartans never died, just missing an action, unless there are spartans on the 681 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,719 Halo TV show, because everyone's just fucking yeah, dropping like flies. But 682 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,320 I totally agree giving the give him the blind fellow the grenade launcher and he's 683 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,960 just firing up into every fucking window above him. It's just not a good 684 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,760 idea. And then they didn't They didn't show him take out the wraith, 685 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,480 and I feel like they just they set it up that he takes it out, 686 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,679 but they didn't show him taking out And I feel like this is again 687 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,840 a downside because people that know Halo know what a wraith is. But if 688 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,760 you don't know about Halo, there's like, oh raith, rais like what 689 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,800 the fuck's a wraith? And you can't even see really what it is because 690 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,119 it's still out in the distance. And then yeah, he just waltzes out 691 00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:39,400 towards it. I thought we're gonna get like a King Kong Skull Island moment 692 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:45,599 where they is exactly the scene that I thought of, where they just shoot 693 00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:47,679 him from a distance or a sniper picks them off and the wraith keeps going. 694 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,000 I quite liked the section leading into that set piece before we got that 695 00:43:55,159 --> 00:44:00,679 where it's like rape, I guess when his partner dies, and that scene 696 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,519 before I just thought the cinematography was actually pretty good. Generally, I'm not 697 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,880 a big fan of the super shaky can that they have for the action scenes 698 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,880 in this show, but in that sequence, it felt it really felt like 699 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,039 a documentarian style, Like the camera's really close up, it was moving with 700 00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:19,159 them, it was really highlighting the character's faces. It was like it really 701 00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:22,719 felt like it was part of the space, and then just zooming in on 702 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,639 like important character reactions or zooming on that character's death and then kind of like 703 00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,960 falling backwards out the window and like Riz jumping down, which was like the 704 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:35,760 thumbnail shot of the episode. So I thought that was really well done. 705 00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,679 And then my my nitpick and I think I've nipicked this before. It's like, 706 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,840 man, it bothers me so much that the br doesn't have like three 707 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,519 round bursts in this show and just shoots whatever. And then do you guys 708 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,360 find that like the the CGI for like the gunfire just looks really cheap in 709 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,800 this show, Like the specifically the human weapons. I can't really recall when 710 00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,639 my head right now, I'll look out for it. That's good. Maybe 711 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,840 maybe it's just me, but I it just it feels very cheap and it 712 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,199 it just it makes me feel like the things they're holding are like paper mache 713 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,239 just like or cardboard props or something. Also, just the way they like 714 00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,760 swing them around, there's no recoil on them. I just I'm these weapons 715 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,239 are like so instaalgier for me because I play hoists. That was a wee 716 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,440 lad and so when when they look great, but then they just feel like 717 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,639 a cheap replica, really it really bothers me. So those are more nippicky 718 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,159 things. I will. I feel like that's something too that you it probably 719 00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:32,480 I don't want to speak for you, but I feel like it might not 720 00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:36,719 hit as hard if they were armored up too, because it just seems like 721 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,079 they're a lot more maybe secure. Like it, it makes sense that that 722 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,000 the recoil is not really affecting them because they're just totally suited up. But 723 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,480 yeah, like it, it definitely seems like there is no recoil there, 724 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,360 and I agree with them, like swinging around, it just seems a little 725 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,119 a little extra like they're they're going for some some flourishes with their with their 726 00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:59,960 brs. But I didn't notice actually the three round first, So you're death 727 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:07,559 more of a weapon enthusiast when it comes to it's iconic weapon. What was 728 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,400 I gonna say? Oh yeah, with the Wraith, I agree with you 729 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:14,000 for the most part. With like the camera I don't really want to say 730 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000 camera shake because it's not it's more than like it's more than that. It's 731 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:21,079 it's really a realism type effect that they're going for, Like in the action. 732 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,199 I did like it for the most part, but when it comes to 733 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,880 the Wraith at first, like I just couldn't even see what it was, 734 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,239 and it almost seemed like they're trying to hide it, as if it was 735 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,880 just like super weapon that like should be shocking when you see it. But 736 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,639 even when they have the close up, like before Lewis goes and dies it, 737 00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,559 it seemed really blurry and I don't like maybe it was just poor CGI, 738 00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:43,559 which is bizarre because I feel like I'm always giving them credit for how 739 00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,440 good everything looks. But it just it was a bad showcase for a really 740 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,400 really badass Halo like signature. Uh vehicle, I guess vehicle weapon Like like 741 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,599 I because like they even showed us like a scorpion in this uh in this 742 00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:00,559 episode right, like the giant tanks that the Marines have, and that looked 743 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:01,760 really great. So I don't know why they're trying to hide the ring so 744 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:08,639 much. That was when they were like before the Jackals come out, when 745 00:47:08,639 --> 00:47:14,719 they're like just starting, the scorpion pulls up behind Chief and that's at that's 746 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,000 like my favorite vehicle in the Hale universe. I feel hashtag little Pablo so 747 00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,920 this Travis Snell. So I was pretty let down by the by the overall 748 00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:27,039 just I guess usage of the wraith because correct me if I'm wrong, But 749 00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:30,360 have we seen one in like there swear we got one in that magical fight 750 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,519 scene. Uh yeah, one of those first fights of this first season. 751 00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:35,880 Like, I don't think it was a ghost. I swear we saw a 752 00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:43,719 Covenant vehicle because we've definitely seen the what are like the little at vs the 753 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,440 the ghosts is that what they're called. Well, there's the banshees, there's 754 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,159 not the bandsheet, but I don't actually see the ghosts yet. I don't 755 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:55,280 think we've seen a ghost Okay, whatever it might be in in that that 756 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,480 wraith scene. I guess they you know, they've taken me out many times 757 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,360 on the campaign like those. It's like a nightmare to me when I see 758 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,119 those on a level, So to have them here it really didn't have the 759 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,400 same fear factor that I was hoping for. Chief and the suit going up 760 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,760 to uh whatever it's call when you boot someone out of the view like that, 761 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,280 that's what I would have wanted to see that would yeah, exactly. 762 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,760 Yeah, they definitely, they definitely held back on it. They're like, 763 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,280 how can we do a raith with the lowest budget possible and call it and 764 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,639 still call it a wraith? And I think they achieved their goal. That's 765 00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:27,760 what they're going for there. They're so deadly too in the games, like 766 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,559 that mortar strike that they have a little hard to take down. Yeah, 767 00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,760 gets super close, which is not easy to do all the time. Like 768 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,760 the the way that the elites and it's just the enemies and stuff that are 769 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,920 dying just don't really make sense. We've seen how elites are very difficult to 770 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,280 take down before, but in here it looks like one grenade takes out like 771 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:52,199 five of them in a hallway. A couple of shots just seems to incapacitate 772 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,679 them, like very very easily. So I don't know, I feel like 773 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,079 it's not being consistent how easy it is to take down these Covenant members. 774 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,880 Well, the jackals were cool to see too, and I feel like there 775 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,639 was a little bit seeing sore and just kind of like pick their heads or 776 00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:13,519 picked like in between like their hands between their their shields and stuff, which 777 00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,239 is what you do in the game, which is kind of fun. But 778 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:22,199 they looked more dinosaur like to me then I think of them as from the 779 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,559 game, i'd say, I'd say, that's yeah, they're pretty good. 780 00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:30,719 Maybe they just really are dinosaur like and I just don't think of them. 781 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,400 But they just look like lost wrapped her head with jackal body to me. 782 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,000 Mm. The shields looked great though. Did they always have those like little 783 00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:45,880 mini energy sorts in the games? Like I know they have rightfles they often 784 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,880 have plasma pistols. Yeah, they have the sword though I think they can 785 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,760 in the later Halo games, but in the earlier ones, yeah, shield 786 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,920 and plasma pistols because it looks like an energy sword just like more transparent like 787 00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,480 or translucent whatever which one it is. It just it didn't seem like it 788 00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:02,960 had the same energy the Energy Sword had obviously, but I was like, 789 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,559 do they always have the Like I know they mail at you, but like 790 00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:08,480 is that what they're maileing you with? I don't know. It seemed bizarre. 791 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,559 There are in the later Halo games are skirmishers and they run at you 792 00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,679 with them. Oh okay, I'm usually du a wielding, got their dukes 793 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,039 up ready to go. You mentioned a name that I actually completely forgot about, 794 00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,480 and he's in this episode, not like a lot, but like a 795 00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:27,000 decent amount, especially paired it with Halsey, we got sore in the uh 796 00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:32,119 the disgraced spartan man. I was I had no expectations for like his interaction 797 00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:35,360 with Halsey, but this is not what I thought was gonna happen. And 798 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,320 I'm just like, I don't fucking care about this character anymore after this episode, 799 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,440 Like I didn't really before this one, But just like his like almost 800 00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:46,199 like the Three Stooges type level of like humor. It seemed that he had 801 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,800 at moments like when when they're escaping him and Halsey and she like goes the 802 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,639 one way and he goes the other way, and he's like a little six 803 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,360 year old like I'm not going your way. I don't trust you. Oh 804 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,639 blah blah blah. And then like she's like it's actually this way, and 805 00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,360 he's like shit, and then he turns around like walks over, like what 806 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,159 the fuck are we doing here? Like like what is going on in this 807 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,840 episode? And like even when I actually wrote it down because I didn't want 808 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,199 to misspeak, but when he's I think it's his first line that he has 809 00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:16,639 with Halsey, uh yeah, what I would do if I was ever in 810 00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,280 the same room room as you, And he just kind of like pauses and 811 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,679 he just looks like he has no no thoughts going on in his brain, 812 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,119 like he's just like frozen. He's like, well, what I do if 813 00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:28,760 I was in the same room with you? Like it's just it seemed like 814 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,599 they were hoping to have this like really intense meeting between Halsey, who's just 815 00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:36,800 put like so many families and people inder like so much distress because of this 816 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,239 Spartan program and like what it does to just the Spartan I guess Psyche just 817 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,119 going through all these things and like, oh, I have a one on 818 00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:46,559 one interaction, Like is he gonna killer with his bare hands. It just 819 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,039 like nothing happened at all, and now that like they just escaped together. 820 00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:52,840 It like, like I said, I had no expectations, but this is 821 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,079 not what I thought was gonna happen. And I was just like, why 822 00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:59,039 are we even wasting time with this? Like this just seems so ridiculous. 823 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,239 Later on, he seems like she's like almost a different character than what she 824 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,039 was in later seasons. Specifically when like Keys dies, she's like, we 825 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:08,519 have to save him, and in my mind, I'm just like, this 826 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:14,199 is this just does this seems so far distance from where she was at the 827 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,000 end of last season. It seems like it was always about just Halsey. 828 00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:19,920 As long as she's the one that kind of is living, then that's fine. 829 00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,480 And it just it seems like a different character like it was last season. 830 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:30,119 I really watched that exception for the father of her daughter. You sorry, 831 00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:31,599 you said you you don't think she would like her? And her and 832 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:36,000 what's his name? They because they're like they were married, right or I 833 00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:39,880 forget if they were married, but they're definitely sexually involved at some point. 834 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:45,880 Yeah. To me, that to me, that that didn't strike like that 835 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,599 seems like if there's anyone that she's gonna care about. It's like him and 836 00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,199 and Miranda, even if she doesn't care about them very much, she's still 837 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,320 like, well, you know, if it comes down to it, like 838 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,440 I'm try and save them. So that didn't that'sn't bother me in the same 839 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,079 way, did you fair enough? I feel like I almost forgot that they 840 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:06,599 even have that, that that relationship. It's hard to forget, so thank 841 00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:08,199 you for reminding me about that. But I don't know, like I was 842 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,519 mostly just going off on the swor and thing. But Halsey hasn't been in 843 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,480 this in the season so far too much, and it just it seems very 844 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,360 different than she said. She's just locked in this one room and it hasn't 845 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,320 only talked too pretty much actress and at this point the Halsey stuff, it's 846 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,239 a mixed bag for me. One. I think like all those sequences whenever 847 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,800 we were always like build up to a very what was gonna be a very 848 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,400 intense moment in a battle like the bridge scene, where like getting set up 849 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,559 everyone the lines getting set up or calling in the scorpion, and then we 850 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:40,639 just like cut to Soreing and Halliday like you just removed all the tension that 851 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,920 was built up in this and there's no tension in those scenes even when they 852 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,119 are having their action sequences, So that that was like maybe the downside for 853 00:53:49,159 --> 00:53:52,519 me, But I do still I think I felt this way in season one. 854 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:54,519 I feel the same way here that the actress that plays Haliday. I 855 00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,719 think she's like the best actress in this show, and so I think that 856 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,199 she just has a bit more rain and other characters across the board, Like 857 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,480 even when she's out there on that ledge at the towards the end of the 858 00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,679 episode, when she's just looking out at Reach and seeing what's happening and Soren, 859 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,559 of course it just blank stare Pablo Brick mode over here, but she's 860 00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,679 you know, she's tearing up, she's looking at all this. Presumably a 861 00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:20,079 lot of this she's like working on in this place that she cares about, 862 00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,320 even if she is still maybe a cold hearted person at times. So I 863 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,679 just think she's a bit better quality of an actor than a lot of these 864 00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:30,800 people. So I get a little bit more out of that. But generally 865 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,880 I was not really a fan of the sequence, and I think it does 866 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,559 largely come down to Soren, and I'm not really a big fan of that 867 00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:38,239 character, and that does seem like they're gonna have some big altercation with each 868 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,079 other, but they don't really. I also feel like, I don't know 869 00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:45,599 we're supposed to see these characters, like Soren is this kind of self made 870 00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:50,840 man. He's like very resourceful, he's a pirate, and Halsey's like incredibly 871 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,000 smart person. So I don't like that how they got out of their cell 872 00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:57,199 was just like there was a power ougin, they got lucky and they got 873 00:54:57,199 --> 00:54:59,800 out of there. Because of that, I think it would have been cool 874 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,159 if they maybe work together to come up with a solution to break out of 875 00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:06,880 this cage that they that they were put in. And I don't think it's 876 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,159 funny that, like Soren, this whole episode he's talking about how, oh 877 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,039 man I was I was great. I escaped you, I eluded you back 878 00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,760 in the day when I was held captive, and she's like, no, 879 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,000 I let you go. And I like that the same thing happens here where 880 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,840 he just gets lucky and the power gets shut off and then he can escape 881 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,920 again. It's like, are you trying to show me that he's a resourceful, 882 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,440 like smart individual who did all these cool things. Seems like he just 883 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,320 gets lucky a lot when he's like in dire straits, So I don't know 884 00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:36,519 if it's very successful. It's setting him up as a as an intriguing character, 885 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,320 so I don't know. I think there was a couple lines of dialogue 886 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,199 between them that we're all right, Like one from Halsey that I thought was 887 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,639 nice was they were just talking about the impending situation and he's because there is 888 00:55:49,679 --> 00:55:52,280 at the very start of the episode, they're in their cage and they're like 889 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,920 hearing explosions going off, and so they start talking about war, and then 890 00:55:54,960 --> 00:56:00,400 Halsey has the line that's like that he's like, wow, why is war 891 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,559 here? I thought the war was going on in these other outer planets, 892 00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:05,320 and she's like, lots of thing about war. It never stays where you 893 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,119 put it. And I thought that was like a really nice, little poignant 894 00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,360 line there. So there was some good stuff in all of that, But 895 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,480 for the most part, I think it's uh, just takes away from like 896 00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:16,480 the tension of the episode. But it wasn't as bad as we didn't also 897 00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:20,320 have Quan scenes. We didn't also have all these characters doing other things, 898 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,880 like for the most part, it was pretty much just like an A plot 899 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,320 and then a B plot, and they converged at the end at the end 900 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,639 of the episode. So for the first time ever, I feel like the 901 00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:31,800 show actually successfully weaved multiple storylines together. That's once again why I think the 902 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,039 pacing was better here than it ever has been. So I hope that keeps 903 00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:39,960 up in these I guess the rest of the season. I hope so too. 904 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,079 I was just look at my notes here at the end when Keys does 905 00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,239 his honorable sacrifice and then you have Perez on the bridge of the ship. 906 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:57,159 I did not understand how she flew that ship out of there, because literally 907 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,559 all she did was grab All she does is grab the throat and just like 908 00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:02,719 goes forward and it's like, I guess to turn on the jets to light 909 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,599 to the ignite, that makes sense, and then all of a sudden they're 910 00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,440 just like going into orbit, and I'm like, did she like do anything 911 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,000 else or do All she did was hit that switch and it's just like self 912 00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:15,400 drive, like maybe Keys did like an autopilot thing, and that's all she 913 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,119 had to do. She kept saying that she couldn't fly the ship without Keys 914 00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:21,920 on there, and it truly felt that way. I was just shocked that 915 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,079 it just worked. So she more meant that as like on a personal level, 916 00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:27,960 like right, no, yeah, for sure, But it was weird 917 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,079 to me that she was like not in a seat because I feel like as 918 00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:32,599 soon as she would do that, wouldn't she just like fly back and smashed 919 00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:36,920 the wall and then presumably get knocked out and then all these people would die. 920 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,760 So I think they definitely could have done that, definitely could have done 921 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,519 that a bit better. And now I just don't wonder what she's gonna do 922 00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:45,239 because I feel like, once again, this happened with quant and season more, 923 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,320 where she was hanging out with Chief the whole season and then they got 924 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:51,159 separated at some point and then Kwan is off doing her own thing, and 925 00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:52,719 so like, now pres gonna be separated, So are we gonna also have 926 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,159 this now? W We're like, we still are gonna presumably see more of 927 00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:58,400 what Kwan's doing, We're gonna see what Prezz is doing, but they're not 928 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,119 gonna be a Chief anymore. It's like, why are you setting up this 929 00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:04,360 relationship if it's not gonna go on? So maybe I'm talking too soon and 930 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,119 they are gonna get teamed up again, but just some weird choices, unless 931 00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:12,199 like this is the end of pres and she just escaped and we don't think 932 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,000 about her again, But then why did she get all this screen time in 933 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,599 the first place. It's very weird. I would really much like if we 934 00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:21,920 just took a break from them, and then maybe later on when we have 935 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,079 like survivors, you like, meet up with them and like the just the 936 00:58:24,119 --> 00:58:28,559 survivors like like that, that would kind of make sense that Prez has just 937 00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:31,519 kind of been making sure that the like the civilians are fine with wherever they're 938 00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:36,519 flying to. Presumably they have a destination. I guess they're going to wherever 939 00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:39,440 the like the higher ups went. They must have some sort of plan on 940 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,320 something. Yeah, I don't know what the planet is. I mean, 941 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:45,360 from what I've seen, Akerson is just completely sus and I don't know. 942 00:58:46,039 --> 00:58:52,679 Yeah, we also got like finally, I mean, it's the smallest confirmation 943 00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:57,199 of all time. But Halsey's asking Commander Keys, hey, hey, where's 944 00:58:57,199 --> 00:59:00,199 Miranda, and he's like, yeah, she's gone, She's not here. 945 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,440 That's it. So I was like, I actually missed that entire line. 946 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,199 So I'm glad you told me that what is with this character, Like I 947 00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:13,280 cannot believe that they're just not giving any info on where this like crucial character 948 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,880 from season one is and who's very relevant to the characters in this episode and 949 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,280 probably would have had a great emotional scene if we saw her react to her 950 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,039 father's death. So maybe we'll get that. But for all I know, 951 00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:24,679 it seems like that actress just isn't in the show anymore, and they didn't 952 00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:29,440 alter recasting. I don't know. Yeah, no, I I was gonna 953 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,960 ask the question, actually if we know anything else on Miranda, So I've 954 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,199 completely missed that line. It was in that elevator with those two plus Soren 955 00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,920 when they were going up. Okay, yeah, okay yeah, And like 956 00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:46,000 even that, like having the face to face amongst Soren Halsey Keys, like 957 00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:50,719 I was expected a little bit more there. I also was kind of expecting 958 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,719 Chief to be there for that meet. I like, obviously Chief sees her 959 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,119 later on right before the explosion, but I was just expecting that, Like 960 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,440 this is a really big inverging of characters, like they have so much weight, 961 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:08,400 like amongst and like history amongst all those characters. Maybe next episode will 962 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,760 get spit something between Halsey and Uh and Chief. For sure, I would 963 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,360 expect that, but I don't know. It just seemed like a big moment 964 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,159 of like, let's get some great dialogue here, and then it just kind 965 01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,679 of dropped the pieces and you know, you can make like the Devil's Advocate, 966 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,920 well like they're in a rash, it's big war times. Then why 967 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,800 do we have time to like talk with the pawn shop owner way earlier on 968 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,639 this episode, Like I'd so much rather take dialogue out of that sequence and 969 01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:34,679 put it with these other characters that I should be caring about. I was 970 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,280 just I was led down and same thing with like the Sore and Halsey thing, 971 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,800 like like don't even have the interaction, give me some some other interaction. 972 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,239 But again, I'm just I'm hating on Sore and from here on out 973 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,320 unless they give you a reason to really love it, like soreing when when 974 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,199 you got a paired up with Halsey at first, it's like, ah, 975 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,719 why do these characters know each other? And it was like, oh, 976 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,079 yeah, okay, this spart and program, okay can go back and like 977 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,039 imagine and maybe there was scenes in season one of flashbacks that have to do 978 01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:01,800 those charactersifically, but I can't really recall those. But yeah, someone like 979 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,920 Soword and command her keys, Like I don't know what scene I'm supposed to 980 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,199 get between them, like do they have a rapport or do they do they 981 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,440 like or dislike each other? I don't really know, And so it didn't 982 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,239 really it wasn't like some big cool moment that Okay, we spent three episodes 983 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,800 or even season one leading up to this, this connection between them. So 984 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,800 maybe we'll get some more of that in the the next episode. But there's 985 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,719 presumably a lot we have to get to still. I mean, Kai, 986 01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:31,159 I don't know where she is right now. Each thing could go on for 987 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,440 many more episodes. I don't know how much that hits the budget, but 988 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:37,440 I mean I imagine there's still a lot more to be done there. What 989 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:42,559 if it's revealed that Kai like went on this rogue mission, she she sued 990 01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:45,400 it up, she found her armor, and then she has like the other 991 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,440 Spartan's arm or at least the chiefs the other day, would that help you 992 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,199 at all? Right now, it seems like the armor is on a ship 993 01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:57,920 to Alaska right now, like it's gone for forever. Yeah, it's it's 994 01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,639 it's out the window. It's not happening. I mean unless Akerson's gonna like 995 01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:06,440 do a YouTube like oh, we'll just drop that armor back off and and 996 01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:09,880 uh yeah, but I'm I don't know, I'm just I'm just so unhappy 997 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:15,320 with that decision. It's just not it doesn't make sense. It really doesn't 998 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:19,559 make sense. Yeah, I could see that happening where she brings the armor. 999 01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:22,480 She's like, okay, where where's Vanic? Time to give him his 1000 01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:25,480 armor? And then she that's where like when the moment she finds out and 1001 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,280 she probably makes some dumb quip because in lack of her being here to make 1002 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,400 her stupid quips. Soren was the one making clips where some guy dies in 1003 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,360 front of him and he's like, oh, I'll take that, and he 1004 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,840 like grabs his gun and then he starts firing off, like come on, 1005 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,000 man, like no, like read the room a little bit here, like 1006 01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:45,920 we don't need your quips making fun of this guy who just died in front 1007 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,920 of you. And I feel like every half the lines he brings on this 1008 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,000 episode just stupid little quips. I liked his birds. I thought that was 1009 01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,760 kind of funny. He's like it's such a weird opening, and he's like, 1010 01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:00,920 cheeth Keith, is this Spartan thing? Like do Spartans just have a 1011 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:07,199 big like affinity to avian creatures. That's because when he died, he's like 1012 01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:08,920 looking up and sees the bird flying overhead. I'm like, is this like 1013 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,679 a lot of symbolism, Like that, is that actually what happened? I 1014 01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:15,559 didn't see. Yeah, I thought he was dead already. So it was 1015 01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,000 a weird shot because he's like laying their eyes open in the death stance, 1016 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,039 and then it like goes from his perspective just watching a bird. Look, 1017 01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:23,199 maybe it's the last thing he saw. I don't know, a little bit 1018 01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:28,840 poetic. I think it's a reach. But Dylan, you already mentioned like 1019 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,719 the needler death scene of Vanic. I just want to double down on the 1020 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,000 actual look of the needler. It's not the first time we've seen it in 1021 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,079 the show. But I fucking love that weapon. That's like top ten greatest 1022 01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:42,039 weapons ever made in video games, Like it's just oh, there you go. 1023 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,400 Put a pin on that one, put a needle in that one. 1024 01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:49,480 Just like the actual look of the weapon. I'm always surprised on how big 1025 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,800 they are I know, like in the games, like like they are really 1026 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,039 large on a character's hand, but it's probably just like the first person view. 1027 01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:57,920 I'm just so used to just seeing the top of it and just the 1028 01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:00,760 reload effect when those needles come out. Fucking love that weapon and the explosion 1029 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,360 was sweet. I also quite like the look of like the plasma explosions of 1030 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,840 like the Covenant's weapons. It's mostly like artillery coming in, but it's just 1031 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,360 like a sploosh of blue jelly that would just burn you to a crisp. 1032 01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,079 Quite like the look of that. And also when Riz tossed the grenade, 1033 01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:23,360 I thought she just threw like a like a regular frag grenade or something, 1034 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,360 but it it And maybe you guys can correct me, but I thought only 1035 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,679 like the plasma grenades have this like blue explosion. It kind of looked like 1036 01:04:29,719 --> 01:04:32,360 that when when she did throw it. I don't know, maybe I'm just 1037 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:38,360 seeing things, but it looked like it had the blue plasma explosion with the 1038 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,719 frag grenade effect. But are always like pretty small in the games, like 1039 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,400 they don't really hit a huge area and they're pretty minimal. The plasmas are 1040 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,719 a bit more explosive in that way. So maybe the exploded, maybe her 1041 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,480 frag exploded the covenants scaRNAs and that's what I saw. Yeah, Daisy chained 1042 01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:58,960 it, so who knows. But I just wanted to shout out the effects 1043 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,559 of those weapons because again, like that looks great, why not just do 1044 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,920 well, It's probably very expensive to do only that in the show, but 1045 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,400 I still think he could have done something better than what we're getting with the 1046 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,199 cheaper budget budget. Probably too, guys, Commander Keys, he died, 1047 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,880 He's dead, He's gone. I don't think. I don't think he's dead. 1048 01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:20,159 Really. I think I think compared to some of the other desks that 1049 01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:25,320 we saw were like an off screen version like this, this seemed like there 1050 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,920 was It was way too ambiguous that he probably could have escaped from this and 1051 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:34,559 the other thing too. And if if they again fiction time, yeah, 1052 01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:40,360 if this is actually where he dies, I would be so upset because he 1053 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,840 plays such a pivotal, pivotal role in the first Halo game. Okay, 1054 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:47,360 he's on charge of the Pillar of Bottom with Chief, they discover Halo, 1055 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:54,599 and then he turns into a flood basically, and then Chief has to go 1056 01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:59,559 and basically pull out some of his implants for part of the posession whatever. 1057 01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,519 But he turns into a flood and it's it's a huge moment, and so 1058 01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:06,400 for this just to happen here he gets killed on a platform, just I'm 1059 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,079 not buying it. Always saw was flames, and we didn't even see what 1060 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:13,039 happened to the Jackals. It just look kind of destroyed. So I'm thinking 1061 01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:16,599 maybe he ducked and dodged somewhere. If not, it's super anti climactic. 1062 01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:20,800 He whips his fucking pipe out and that's how he goes. I would like 1063 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,159 that you're right, just because I was actually liking that character by the end. 1064 01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,800 I think I always liked better actors. I would say, yeah, 1065 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,199 I think that is what it is. Like I could just kind of tell 1066 01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:33,719 from the get go that he seemed like a better actor, So maybe I 1067 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,880 was hoping for more scenes. And if that's just the end of that, 1068 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:41,039 that's obviously just a goodbye to that character. So I do hope that you 1069 01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:45,360 are right, but I don't know. I don't want to say I'm not 1070 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,400 buying it, because like I also didn't see him just get burned to a 1071 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,159 crisp like you also, like you definitely didn't see that maybe he just grabbed 1072 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,000 a jackal shield or something, you know, did the cover thing, Like 1073 01:06:56,159 --> 01:07:00,280 there is ways to write in that that he survived. Maybe he's incredibly disformed. 1074 01:07:01,199 --> 01:07:04,679 Who knows, but uh yeah, I would agree that if this is 1075 01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:08,400 the end, that's just a letdown. And I think in the moment, 1076 01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:13,400 I'm like, well, and again, like this is where I didn't part 1077 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,119 of me. I didn't recall the whole Miranda name drop, how she's just 1078 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,239 disappeared. So in that moment, I'm like, Hey, he's gonna die, 1079 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,360 Miranda's gonna come in. That's gonna be like the passing of the torch 1080 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:26,480 there, which would kind of make sense as somewhat of a script layout. 1081 01:07:27,679 --> 01:07:31,239 That's because we've already been introduced to Miranda. We know she's like she's not 1082 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,519 the Pinnacle, but she is a higher ranking officer. Like all the cards 1083 01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:39,960 are kind of aligning that way. I don't know what they have planned. 1084 01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:43,880 Do they just introduce a new character to kind of be the new Keys. 1085 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,679 I think that's a terrible idea. Yeah, I hope he's still around too. 1086 01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:50,239 I definitely I didn't even think about the possibility that that was a fake 1087 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,719 out, But I think I'd be happy with it, even though even though 1088 01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,840 it kind of goes in to my point I was making earlier of the stakes 1089 01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:01,760 of the episode being so big because the these Marquee characters are dying. But 1090 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,199 yeah, I guess the last thing on that is I just thought the music 1091 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,280 was really good. I mean it it's it was started out just kind of 1092 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,119 the generic, like the strings playing really emotional beats, but then there's kind 1093 01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:16,239 of like the SYNTHI beat under it that I don't know, just add a 1094 01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:20,119 little texture that I thought it was quite nice. So I thought it was 1095 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:24,640 a fairly emotional scene for a character that I do care about. I mean, 1096 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,399 there's very few of those in the show, but I genuinely like that 1097 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,000 character. I think he hasn't really had too much of an arc this season, 1098 01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:32,520 but he's had a small, little baby one, I guess, so 1099 01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:36,479 that's more than a lot of characters can say. So so yeah, I 1100 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,880 guess I hope he sticks around. Do you think that that would get resolved 1101 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,840 next week or would that be something you save for a couple of weeks. 1102 01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:47,000 I think you could see opening of next week. Next week. That's just 1103 01:08:47,039 --> 01:08:50,560 like the smoke and the debris and he's like crawling through and he lifts his 1104 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,600 head up. It's like, oh shit, it's keys. He's alive. 1105 01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,000 The spartan outfit. He just had the armor all alone. Yeah, Chie's 1106 01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:00,640 armor all alone. Yeah. And then she just just like he looks weak. 1107 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,920 Leave him to die, guys. Yeah, but he's like on the 1108 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:10,159 command. I just feel like the chief set up such a like we need 1109 01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:13,880 you, we need more leaders like you. You gotta survive this. Uh. 1110 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,880 And then we already had Vanik die and a few other characters die. 1111 01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,960 So I feel like I feel like Vanik was then like cashing in on the 1112 01:09:20,039 --> 01:09:25,279 last and that was after. It was after Yeah, so I feel like 1113 01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:29,279 he's the true guy being killed. And he had the second guy to die 1114 01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,159 out of three in an episode, never actually dies. That's a classic rule 1115 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:36,319 of film. I don't think have anything else on this episode. I've gone 1116 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:42,359 through all my notes. The elite cutting arbiter cutting off the elite's head. 1117 01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,319 Didn't like that. I can't see an elite doing that. They're they're very 1118 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,399 much like they're talking and like my brothers stuff like that. That's how they 1119 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,319 kind of talk referred to each other. They're very honorable and even though an 1120 01:09:54,439 --> 01:10:00,199 arbiter is necessarily not in that same kind of boat anymore. I just don't 1121 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,119 see that happening. It doesn't make any sense, and I didn't like it 1122 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,600 most like chop off his hand or something, for yeah, firing the plasma 1123 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:11,680 pistol with it, But murder seemed it seems kind of weird to me. 1124 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,520 I don't know, it did seem very weird because even like thinking of was 1125 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,479 it Halo two when you get introduced to the arbiter, yes, yeah, 1126 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:23,399 so like even just that whole sequence where this this individual has like disgraced himself, 1127 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,319 like they could just murder him there if that's their way of life, 1128 01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:29,600 but like they go through this ritual to give them the the armor of the 1129 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,800 arbiter, and it doesn't seem like, you know, we're doing the ape 1130 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,079 stretch right now. Ape doesn't kill ape. It seems like a covenant doesn't 1131 01:10:35,119 --> 01:10:42,399 kill covenant like that at least, So it just seemed it seemed uncharacteristic, 1132 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,920 which is kind of funny to say, because I really don't know much about 1133 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,199 how the Covenant work on like a lower basis, But it seemed odd even 1134 01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:55,640 for someone like me. That isn't you know well versed in that. What 1135 01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:04,039 else do I god here at that? I guess the last thing I have. 1136 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,920 And there's one more quote actually, so in that speech, when Keys 1137 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,279 was talking to John and trying to boost up them raw for all the Marines, 1138 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,640 Keys says, today he needs no armor. Today, he needs the 1139 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,640 warrior inside of himself. It's the same war in all of you. I 1140 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,880 like what Keys is going for here, but I mean it's all they see, 1141 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,800 is like the line that includes no armor. Yeah, I appreciate what 1142 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,039 they were trying to do. The other thing and this is, uh, 1143 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,439 this is something I'm gonna quote here because I thought this was great. I 1144 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:41,920 was browsing the forums earlier and I quote which wait, sorry, which forums 1145 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,000 we're doing? But read it redd it okay? For the Halo TV show. 1146 01:11:45,319 --> 01:11:48,640 Yeah, specifically the Halo TV show. I was looking specifically at the 1147 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:56,960 Halo TV Show sucks forums And is everybody on there at like six thirty in 1148 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,399 the morning, too, like like all eating their cereal? Probably time that 1149 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:05,000 you checked. No, this was like midday. I'm convinced that, Like, 1150 01:12:05,119 --> 01:12:09,199 I'm happy that people can like this show. I really really am. 1151 01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:12,079 But at the same time, when I see people praising it like best action 1152 01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:15,840 show. I can't love this show. Yeah yeah, yeahda. I'm just 1153 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,680 thinking, man, who bought you off? This is just absolutely bullshit. 1154 01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:24,000 I don't I'm not, I'm not. I just can't see it. But 1155 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,760 and I quote, it's an okay show, but a fucking terrible Halo show. 1156 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,399 End quote anonymous editor, I really don't agree with that. That statement. 1157 01:12:34,039 --> 01:12:36,600 You agree with it. I would agree with that. I'd say I'd 1158 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,720 say it's an okay show, but it's a terrible Halo show. Huh. 1159 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,680 I think it's a weak show. I think okay show is an overstatement. 1160 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:53,600 I agree. I agree with the second part. It's not far off, 1161 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:59,199 though, I'll give it to him generous, just in context of where things 1162 01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:04,600 are, because they've clearly leveled the playing field here. So the setup of 1163 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:12,319 the story is Keys is on the Pillar of Bottomana. Halsey gets Quartana, 1164 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:17,439 Halsey takes Krtana, gives Kortana to a few Spartan members of a Spartan you 1165 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,760 see, and Halo reach the game a few Spartan members and their job is 1166 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:27,479 to get Quartana to master Chief on the Pillar of Attom. And so that 1167 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,319 is what you have to do, and you get Kurtana to the Pillar of 1168 01:13:30,319 --> 01:13:35,279 Bottom. Chief Keys and Kurtana basically get out of there with the Pillar of 1169 01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:39,560 Attom. They make a jump to a random set of coordinates, and those 1170 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,520 coordinates are Halo. And so right now we're looking at Keys is dead, 1171 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,760 Kortana's been abducted, and Chief has no armor, and there's no mention of 1172 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,119 the Pillar of Attom or the ship or anything like that. It seems like 1173 01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:56,359 they're legitimately stranded on reach right now. So I'm really curious how this is 1174 01:13:56,359 --> 01:14:04,920 going to connect with them getting to Halo. And we don't even we don't 1175 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:12,600 well shift, we don't even see how like they've changed how they they're going 1176 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,520 to like go to Halo. I'm pretty sure, because at least the books 1177 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,479 are not necessarily canon to the games, that's all changed. But the only 1178 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:25,079 knowledge that I have is from the books where there was a museum that they 1179 01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:28,600 were the Spartans were fighting at the Covenant a long long time ago, and 1180 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,479 in the museum there's a random gem that had some old writing on it and 1181 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,000 they didn't think anything of it. Humans just disregarded, but it was on 1182 01:14:33,039 --> 01:14:39,079 the museum. Kurtana catalog the the information that was written on this gem, 1183 01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:43,079 and years years later, when they were ditching Reach and trying to get out, 1184 01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,319 she figured out, Hey, I'm just gonna punch this thin because maybe 1185 01:14:45,359 --> 01:14:47,479 these are coordinates. And it turns out the coordinates were the Halo Ring, 1186 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:54,039 so they've changed that, and now it's the devices because the fore Runner tech 1187 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:59,159 that Mackie and the Arbiter have they also have Kurtana. So really there's no 1188 01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:03,680 setup for how the Pillar of Automan Chief would even get to Halo. That 1189 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,920 kind of eludes me. The other thing, too, is that the reason 1190 01:15:08,039 --> 01:15:12,399 reachesn't getting glassed is because there's a whole archive of fore Runner tech that they're 1191 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:18,479 trying to excavate and dig into. We haven't even really seen that. Would 1192 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:23,840 that be why McKee specifically is down there. Well, I think she's down 1193 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,680 there just to kind of she's human and I feel like she can easily access 1194 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:33,159 human systems and try and seek by and get to the Seed or whatever that 1195 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,159 shit was that we saw in the first season of Halos. So I don't 1196 01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:41,600 know just the way that the games and the books have set up themselves with 1197 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,279 the story. Right now, we're just in a completely different narrative, and 1198 01:15:44,279 --> 01:15:47,000 I'm really curious how they're going to get to the Halo ring. I just 1199 01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:51,119 I don't see that connection yet. Yeah, and even with what you're describing, 1200 01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:57,680 that doesn't seem so out of the realm possibility for a TV show with 1201 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:02,359 this length and budget to achieve. So it's interesting. I wonder why they 1202 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:09,239 made those choices. It beats me. Oh fucking show. I'm so sorry, 1203 01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:14,159 Taylor. You'll do the same thing next week. Are you gonna watch 1204 01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,279 it in the morning before work? I'll watch it in the morning. Yeah, 1205 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,760 I'll probably watch it in the morning. Never learn near. Honestly, 1206 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:26,159 if you want to enjoy good Halo content, go watch Halo Forward and to 1207 01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:30,000 Dawn. That's a fantastic Halo movie. You you've seen it, yes, 1208 01:16:30,039 --> 01:16:35,159 so you know it's fantastic. It's fucking fantastic. Great representation of master Chief, 1209 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:43,600 all those characters. Okay, movie, Okay, Halo Anonymous read it 1210 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,159 you. That is on my notes. I got nothing else to sneak in 1211 01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:53,399 there. Let's get out of here, all right. Thank you for tuning 1212 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,359 in this week's episode. I will be back next week. We'll see you 1213 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,479 in the search bar. By bye ye