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But joining us live from Tigertown right
now. He covers the Cleinson Tigers of

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course for all Clinson Tigers dot com. He's the co host of the Believing

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Clemson Football Podcast with our good buddy
Levon Kirkland. It's a noted Steelers fan,

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Will Vanderford. Will, how things
going? You excited for another NFL

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season? My friend? Yeah,
excited that football season officially began today for

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us in the Upstate, and uh, pretty pretty excited about that. It

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was kind of good to see everybody's
When when Davo has his media out and

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he does this every year, it
always feels like the first day of school.

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You know, it's like you see
everybody, you haven't seen him in

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like four or five weeks, six
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you know you're like, oh,
how you doing, how's your summer?

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What is it gonna do? And
you catch up with everybody. It's crazy.

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It's that same nostalgic feeling that you
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Um So, yeah, it was
good. It was good to see everybody.

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Was good to see the coaches and
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coach Tweeney and always gracious to host
us every year with this out here.

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Not every coach does this, that's
what. Yeah, you know, it's

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not a normal thing that every coach
does, and so Debo. He always

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starts it off with I like to
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the national media. I feel like
I need to talk to my local guys

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first and give y'all the you know, the questions first about what's going on

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in the program before he chose uptse
you see media days and talks to the

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national media. And also we appreciated
as local media that coach Sweeney does that

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every year. Force Now he's he's
a good dude in that regard, and

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I think he appreciates not only your
coverage, but the coverage that all of

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us try to provide here locally for
this program. It's nothing but not fair.

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And I do mention the Steelers because
we're gonna talk about them later.

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I got some thoughts on your Steelers. We picked our division winners, and

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I think you'll be pretty happy with
where they ended up. But I do

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want to ask you about these Tigers. The big day down there. As

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you mentioned, school is kind of
back in session now, and obviously you

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get a chance to speak to Debo
Sweeney. I saw some postings of yours

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at all Clemson Tigers dot com about
Gared Riley. Let's start there his thoughts

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on his new quarterback k club Nick. Is there you beginning their marriage,

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so to speak, in terms of
the quarterback coordinated relationship. What's the overall

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takeaway you got from speaking with this
offensive coordinator down there? Yeah, he's

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he's been very pleased with the progression
that his young quarterback has made since the

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spring. Says, you know that
the you know, just from what he

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could see that because you remember,
coaches can't really be involved in the practices

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or anything like that, but from
what they can see and then what being

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reported back to him, sounds like
they're sort of getting used to the offense,

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like it's becoming second nature now,
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if you will, with how they
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That's why it was so important for
him to those first week of spring

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practice to put basically the entire offense
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first week so that the guys could
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getting used to it and mean that
way that goes into the sun and they

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know what they need to work on, and so I think that's helped a

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lot for them, and it seems
like he's paying off. He's been really

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pleased with not only Garrett, I
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Kate Clubney, though also with the
other quarterbacks as well, and the offense

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as a whole. He thought this
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Talk about the offensive line a little
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moved on and their vive was he
reloading there? What's the overall outlook for

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this starting five up front and what's
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they're they're gonna be primary. It
sounds like Tristan Lee's gonna be the guy

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there, or at least going into
campus that guy there. There's gonna be

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some competition, so it's not like
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earn it, but he's gonna get
first shot. The other force positions are

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pretty set and stable at Thomas Austin
actually said that they that's the offensive line

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coach for Clempson actually said that this
is the deepest the offensive line has ever

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been in his years. Not only
now, he's only in the second year

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coaching the offensive line. But you
remember he's been an analyst for several years

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prior to so he's been he's been
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like twenty sixteen, and you know, he's saying, this is the this

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is the deepest he can remember the
deep offensive line being says they're about probably

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eight to eleven guys that they can
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eight guys that can count on,
which is really good, but they feel

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like they can probably get up to
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case, guys, that's going to
help them because they'll be able to spell

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some of those guys early in the
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and then that allows them to be
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of the game and maybe they need
it there in the fourth quarter. Well,

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Vanderford joins us here. He's the
co host of I Believe in Clemson

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Football podcast with Levon Kirkland. What
about injuries. I'm reading that Miles Oliver

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Trey Williams are dealing with some injuries
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And then you posted something about Tyler
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his hip. He just had surgery. Looks like maybe late in the year

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he might be back. Well,
what's the status on those guys? Are

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any other injuries that are sort of
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Well, those are the three major
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start with Tyler Venables. He as
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um. He had surgery yesterday to
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you know, and and he could
he could, but he could go through

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the year and not and and fight
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at the end of the year.
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you know, it'd be best for
him to you know, and clips is

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very deep at the safety position.
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was better for him to go ahead
and get the surgery. Now sit out

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this season. He's got two years, he's got three years to play two

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UM, so he'll come back.
He'll use this as a ret shirt year.

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He'll have two more seasons after this. UM. So he hasn't you

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burn his redshirt yet, so this
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So it's a win win for Clemson
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they would love that type of Nables
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they're guaranteed to get him back.
Dabbo sat for the next two years and

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he'll be healthy and he doesn't have
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Now they said they're getting a pinch
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somebody, then you know that he
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the new rule now with college football, I guess it's not a new rule

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anymore. It's been in for several
years now. You could play up be

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four games. Yeah, so he
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season and still keep that red shirt. So that's going to be the plan

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right now. It's the red shirt
them good stuff. Will Vandervoort covering the

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team for all Clemson Tigers dot Com, the receiving Corps. What do you

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make of what they have right now
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obviously Clemson's trying to get back to
the glory days of what they've had the

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better part of the last decade.
Who's number one, number two right down

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on that depth chart, and obviously
they're losing one of their key see roost

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to the game of baseball. Talk
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think you and I both agree it's
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yeah, and real fast. I
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Trey Williams and Miles Oliver. Oliver
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year. Probably gonna miss a good
part of camp, but he'll be back.

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They think he'll be ready by the
season starts. And then Trey Williams,

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he had a shoulder issue going back
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just wanted to get that cleaned up. He'll miss the first couple of weeks

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of camp, but they said he'll
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weeks. Get to your question,
though, you know, obviously Will Taylor

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decided a few weeks back he's gonna
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I guess I would be. Last
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talk to Dabo about it, and
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best thing for Will and that he, you know, focused on baseball.

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He's got a chance to have a
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that he loved football, that's his
favorite sport. But he's but you know,

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as we all know, sometimes you
get a favorite sport that does means

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your best sport. Right, Baseball
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sport. And he loves playing baseball
too, don't get me wrong, but

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they feel like it it's better for
both parties that he focused on baseball and

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Clemson you know, you know,
they end up you know, now they're

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down. They're one scholarship down,
which is good. So you know they're

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gonna end up giving that scholarship somebody
here in a few weeks. But to

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get to the eighty five limit.
But so it was a win win for

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everybody. Somebody's gonna get a scholarship
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you know, he's gonna be able
to focus on his baseball career. What's

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the biggest challenge for this team this
year? Obviously, you know it's going

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to be competitive. I think you
look at the conference that lot has been

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made of Florida State. In fact, Ebba was asked about FSU and he

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was nothing but complimentary about Mike Norvell. And there's some history there, we

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know that back through the COVID year. But what's the biggest challenge not externally

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necessarily, but internally with this team
in terms of either position groups, coordination

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of the operation. Is there anything
you look at and see you know what,

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this team is gonna be very good. But here's something I'm looking at

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to say, maybe like last year
is the secondary. Perhaps what stands out

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to will Vandervoort is a possible spot
of bother for this team, if any.

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Yeah, there's two concerns. One
I think the obvious one is wide

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receiver. Um, you know,
they they just really don't know. Gett.

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Ridley was asked about his receivers today
and he's very honest. He's like,

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I don't know because the guys they
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you know, he hasn't seen,
you know, what Adam Randall can

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really do. He hasn't seen what
Bo Collins can do. So he's sort

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of in a fluxive. We don't
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at wide receiver yet and that and
that's so that's a little bit of concern.

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No surprise there. I think everybody
understands that Clemson has had injuries use

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the last couple of years and they
just haven't mean good at wide receiver.

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You know, the other area of
concern to me is only mainly from an

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experience standpoint, because I do think
they have talent at this position. But

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at defensive end. You know,
Clemson's got Xavier Thomas and they got Justin

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Maskell. That's it as far as
experience goes. And you know, I

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think Xavier Thomas has more snaps than
anybody else in the position room. And

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you gotta remember he's played hurt the
last several years and he's still got more

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snaps anybody can buy. So it's
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there. It'll be interesting to see
if they make it. He moves in

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camp or not. We'll find out. But the coaches they like, you

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know Lemanski Hall, you know,
he says he likes the guys he's got

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there. He thinks he's got talent. It's just a matter of they got

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to get some experience and right now, you know, there may be some

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growing pains early in the year,
but they think that can be better as

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the season goes long. Well,
you know West Goodwin pretty well, the

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defensive coordinator, and we've talked about
Wes. He's a fascinating character. If

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you will, just a word on
entering into another season here as this coordinator.

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You think he's getting his footing a
little more comfortable. And how they

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trended last season. I know they
had some situations that were an ideal in

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the secondary, but I was impressed
with some of the things schematically they did

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to hold down the fort if you
will, just a word on West Goodwin

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is he coordinates this defense as well
as with Mickey conn and many other members

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of this staff. Yeah, he
said that, you know, last year

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he felt like he was just kind
of thrown into the fire, it was,

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and he was, I mean,
it was his first year being a

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coordinator and being a coach at the
same time, so there's a lot kind

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of coming at him. And he
said he had a lot to learn,

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and you know, sometimes the only
way to learn is through experience and you

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get better and when you do that, and he felt like, you know,

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when he went back and self evaluated
himself and he had others evaluate him,

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you know, he learned a lot
about what to do, not only

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as a coach, but how to
also make sure that doesn't affect things at

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home with the wife and the kids, Right and so you've got to look

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at that too, And so he
said it was a big learning experience all

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the way around last year. You
know, not one of those things you

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would wish on anybody, but it's
definitely something that when you go through it,

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you're glad you did because it gives
you so much knowledge of what not

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to do. And I think that's
where he's at. He learned a lot

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of things as a play caller as
a coach that this is, this works,

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this doesn't work. You know,
maybe I need to do these things

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instead of this. And I think
you're going to see that with this defense

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this year. I think it's gonna
be a much better defense and you're going

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to see the players, I think, trusting more of what he's calling as

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well. And I think last year
there was some miscommunication there and things of

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that nature during the course of the
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them being so inconsistent at times.
Well. Vandervoort's got you covered on the

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Clemson front at All Clemson Tigers dot
com. He's also the co host of

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the Believing Clemson Football Podcast with our
good buddy Levon Kirkland. Speaking of a

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Levan and the Steelers. Would you
be surprised if we told you that Trey

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and I both have picked our division
winners and we don't have Pittsburgh winning that

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division, but we have going to
the playoffs. Did you share our optimism

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as long as Cincinnati is a team
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I'm okay with it. Okay,
they could not. Not that I like

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that either, but it makes more
sense to me because I do think Cincinnati

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is the better team in that division. UM I think their ceiling is a

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lot higher, though I think the
Steelers could win up. You know,

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you look at that schedule and you
look at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh got the best

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defense in NFL. Think when you
look at all three UM levels, I

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think they got the best defense because
they can get after the pastor they can

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stop the run. They've improved a
linebacker, and I think they got the

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best secondary they've had since the days
of Troy Polomano and Troy Palomalo, Ike

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Taylor and Ryan Clark back there,
right. I really believe, I really

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believe that, and so I think
that's going to give them a chance to

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win some games. And they made
the improvements on the offensive side, you

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know, they ran the football.
There were number two in the NFL last

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year the last eight games of the
season running the football, averaging nearly one

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hundred and fifty yards a game rushing. Now they can run the football like

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that and the playmakers they have.
They're getting Austin back, the kid I

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believe from oh Man, help me
out here was a West Virginia. Yeah,

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and so he h they're getting him
back. You know, he didn't

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play it all last year. He
was a third round pick last year that

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got injured in camp. They're excited
about what he can do and how you

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can stretch the field. You gotta
think Jante Johnson's gun catch a touchdown this

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year, and you would hope and
then you know, you looked at Pickings

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there. I think he's set to
have a all pro caliber China season and

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he's gonna really surprise people. I
think he's not getting the fantasy pick that

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I thought he would get. And
maybe that's because of Kenny Pickett. People

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just don't know to trust Kenny Pickett
yet or not. Yeah, but I

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think with the running game, if
they're running the football, well, I

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think you can see Kenny pick it
take that next step and become a better

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passer, and that he doesn't have
to do it all. He can rely

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on his defense in his running game
to win football games for him. So

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all that said, I think this
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I think the floor is ten.
Yeah. With that said, they

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can win eleven games, guys,
and still finished fourth in that division.

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It is. That's what I was
like. I sized it up in Baltimore

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and Cleveland could still be very good, but I got them below Pittsburgh right

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now is it stands just to let
you know, not that it means anything,

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but it's fun to sort of project
this stuff I've got In the first

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round of the playoffs, the wild
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And breaking news, Trey Falco did
not know that Jacksonville and their home

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stadium has a pool. So I'm
already imagining a sea of terrible towels and

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the pool watching the game. And
then Falco here has a matchup that would

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be near and dear to your heart. How about a two thousand and five

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rematch and a twenty fifteen rematch of
Steelers at Cincinnati. I mean that that

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would be pretty cool, right,
Yeah? That would be cool. I

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will be able to go to that
one obviously, but if they but if

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the Steelers are playing Jacksonville and Jacksonville, I'm gonna find my way to make

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down there. Yeah. I know
the people in Jacksonsville. I think he

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gets the tickets that uh so I
can make that happen more than Will Will

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will be Will will be in the
pool with his terrible towel and then do

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like like Bruce Arian says, win
or lose, we booze. It's a

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win win for you because if your
Steelers win, great, If not,

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you're going under the waffle house with
Trevor Lawrence. It's all good. Yeah,

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it's a win win either way.
Right now, I don't mind going

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to the waff out every Will you
too, kind of make time? Man,

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We'll see you soon. I can't
wait to get you in here in

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studio again, my friend. Be
well, all right, all right,

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guys, we'll talk to you a
letter thing. All right, There is Will Vanderford