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Here's an email from Greg. He
lives in Mississippi and this is a This

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is kind of a spooky story.
It's the category would be bigfoot or dog

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man, or maybe both. Let's
read what he says. I grew up

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in Natche's, Mississippi, half a
mile from the Mississippi River near the Devil's

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Punch Bowl. The area consists of
a three hundred foot tall, heavily wooded

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bluff that overlooks the river. It's
a spot that was always good for hunting,

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no matter what game you were after, and there was something else living

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in those woods that I couldn't quite
identify. One morning, me and my

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cousin Buck were squirrel hunting on a
ridge across the road from where we lived.

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We came up on a feed tree
that was loaded with squirrels, so

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we decided to split up and headed
that tree from different directions. Once we

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positioned ourselves, we opened fire on
the squirrels and dropped forward to the ground.

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We were gathering up our game and
thinking about how good fried squirrel and

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gravy served with catthead biscuits was gonna
taste when everything went dead. Silent silence

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always means a predator is nearby.
The hair stood up on the back of

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our necks. As we stood up
straight and listened. Somewhere in the woods

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nearby, we could hear a loud
panting. I thought it sounded like a

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dog, but it had to be
one heck of a big dog to pant

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like that. Scared the hell out
of both of us. You hear that,

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we both asked at the same time. I saw my own fear reflected

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in my cousin's eyes. We both
wanted out of there, but we were

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smart enough donor run. We knew
we'd have to slide out of those woods,

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making as little noise as possible.
Somehow we managed that. We never

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saw a dog or anything else that
could have made that sound. We might

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have convinced ourselves that it was my
cousin dog. He'd sometimes run into the

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woods and he'd find us, but
when we got back to the house,

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he was waiting on us on the
porch. Besides, he wasn't even near

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big enough to pant that loud.
At that time, I couldn't have identified

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the panting sound on a dare.
Today, I believe it was a dog

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man that we heard. Neither me
nor my cousin ever hunted that rich alone

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again. Years later, my wife
and my son and daughter and I were

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traveling from Akron, Ohio down home
for our summer visit to Natchez. We

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were traveling down I fifty five right
after sun up, not far from Memphis.

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At that time, we were nearly
paralleled to Sardi Slake, where swamps

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form on both sides of the roads, with stands of pines in the middle

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like islands. When I saw something
big a quarter of a mile ahead.

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It was a big black ape looking
like creature that crossed the road ahead of

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us in only four stripe. I
couldn't believe what I was seeing. What

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walks on two legs and crosses that
wide highway from west to east in four

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strides. As soon as it got
across, had vanished into some thick brush

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that was growing at the edge of
the flooded area. And as soon as

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we got even with the thicket,
I looked into the pines, hoping I'd

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get another glimpse at it, but
it had vanished. Several years passed when

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we happened to be talking about Bigfoot
across the table. Now I don't know

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what brought the topic up or why
we were even talking about it that morning

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in the car that I had assumed
everyone else was asleep and therefore didn't see

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a thing. Imagine my surprise when
my daughters spoke up that day and said,

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Hey, Dad, do you remember
that thing we saw when we were

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going down to Mississippi. It was
a bigfit that cross the highway, wasn't

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it all these years? And I
thought she had been asleep. She was

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awake and he saw it too.
There was another time it happened when I

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was fourteen, and once again I
was out squirrel honeing. The gullies and

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bayous behind my house were my hunting
grounds that day, and on that morning

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I came up on a big footprint
in the bottom of those gullies had to

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be sixteen or seventeen inches long,
and all I could think was, Man,

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that foot must belong to Andre the
Giant. It was a fresh print,

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still clearly defined, just like when
my cousin and I were hunting that

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day. The world went silent.
I felt those same creepy crawleys worked their

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way up my arms and back of
my neck as I got a whiff of

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a smell that everyone talks about.
I had to fight to keep from puky.

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Oh, man, I don't know
why these smells tick on me.

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It's kind of silly. I had
to fight to keep from puky. I

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eased back out of the woods as
quiet as I could, leaving that absence

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of bugs and birds and critters behind
me. All I had with me was

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a four to ten shotgun, and
I was pretty sure that wasn't going to

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be enough. I don't know when
I've ever been so scared. Okay,

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well, here's a man who's had
three experiences in his life. A panting,

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heard something breathing in the woods when
he was hunting with his cousin,

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saw something across the road, and
then he's seen a track that no other

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animal on the planet would have,
a foot that big, no nothing,

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So what does that tell you?
He's one of these people that just runs

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across all kinds of stuff that I
never see. How many do you ever

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wonder if you ever spend any time
in the woods, do you ever wonder

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how many times you've walked across something
that could be really clear evidence of some

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kind of creature living in the woods
that's unidentified, like a bigfoot, like

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a track or whatever, like you
know, you could be riding around on

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your four wheel or how many tracks
have you run over that were just right

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there and you could have taken a
picture, or even if you're really really

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clever, you could have done a
cast of it, but you ran over

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it with you four wheeler. How
many times do you think that's happened.

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I don't know. Some people just
have an eye for that stuff. They

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have a there's something about them that
draws these in kind of encounters. I

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don't think this man's is very extreme, but that's three times in his life

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he's seen odd things that would probably
make him, you know, believe in

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these creatures. I never see anything. I want to see something. I've

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seen videos of things, especially Shelley
Reid and Mark Knuble when they found those

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tracks a couple of years ago at
Lamb between the Lakes. Now, that

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was I remember watching that video and
it it almost gave me chills because I

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know these people. They're not they
don't make anything up. They're real hard

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evidence people. And the water was
low at Lamb between the Lakes and Kentucky

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Lake or Barkley. She walked out
on the mud flat. There's these giant

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tracks all over the place. They
couldn't be faked. They're big, huge

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ones, and then they're small ones
like you know, like maybe a mama

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or daddy bigfoot walking around with a
juvenile or even a small you know,

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comparable to like our four or five
year old kids walking around beside it.

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It's so cool. I wish I
had been with them that fall. I

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think it was in the fall when
that happened. Anyway, I'm I'm just

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running on and on. Pay no
attention to me who just gets fascinated with

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this stuff. But let's go to
another story. During the nineteen eighties,

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I bought an old trailer from a
friend. My wife and I had been

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married a few years at the time, and we were living in Vale,

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Tennessee. A Veil isn't the kind
of town that sparks immediate recognition at the

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mention of its name. They're less
than two thousand people living there with little

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to do on Saturday night that doesn't
involve driving over to a neighboring town.

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It's quiet in Veil. It's peaceful, and if that's what you're looking for,

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then Veil is where you'll find it. I set the trailer on the

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edge of the woodline on her property
owned by one of my brothers. Another

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brother owned a trailer that sat out
in front of ours. It wasn't the

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kind of situation that would make anyone
think bad things could happen. That's what

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made the event seem so much more
frightening. We hadn't lived there long when

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my wife woke me up in the
middle of the night and she was poking

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my back in that way that women
says, boy, you'd better strap on

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that Superman cape right now, because
I'm going to need you to hero up.

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But it was the middle of the
night, and even Superman needs his

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beauty sleep. I rolled over and
gave her a what to let her know

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that I wasn't happy about the back
poking. Did you hear that? She

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hissed? She was speaking at a
whisper, but her wide, frightened eyes

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were screaming her fear at me,
and my irritation melted a little. But

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I didn't hear anything. No,
I said, before rolling back over and

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wrapping my pillow around my head to
block out any more efforts at conversation.

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Listen, she said, poking me
hard as she did. So why didn't

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want to listen? I wanted to
sleep? Please, she whined. I

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rolled over again and was about to
tell her that I didn't hear a thing

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and that she should go back to
sleep and let me do the same,

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when I heard it too. Something
was running back and forth across the roof

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of the trailer. At that time, we had bantam chickens back then,

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their feisty little birds with more attitude
than brains. One old rooster was the

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perfect example of that sort of behavior. But whatever was up on the roof

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sounded like it was about his sigh. It's probably that old batting rooster,

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I told my wife. I saw
the stricken look on her face, and

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I knew that wasn't going to settle
her. I was going to have to

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get up, walk outside and stare
that old rooster in the eye, just

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to prove to my wife that she
was afraid of a bird. I'd like

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to think that I'm not the kind
of guy who pouts and stomps his feet

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like a child when I'm being forced
to do something that I don't want to

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do. It being the middle of
the night, though I wasn't thinking.

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I was halfway down the hallway when
something lit up the trailer like a Christmas

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tree there was no sound of helicopters
or vehicles. I don't even remember hearing

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the wind blow. And if it
hadn't been so silent, maybe the thousand

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white lights shooting through the trailer wouldn't
have been so bad. Who am I

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kidding? I was never more terrified
in my life. I don't recall how

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long it lasted, but I do
remember one thing. The whole time the

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light were shining on us, whatever
was up there on the roof kept moving

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back and forth, and when the
lights went out, the walking stopped.

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We had a long, sleepless night
after that, but whatever it was didn't

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come back. The next day,
I asked my brother if he had seen

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the lights or experienced any strange roof
walking. He thought that maybe I had

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drank too heavily the night before,
or maybe that I had lost my mind.

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And to this day, I'm convinced
that the walking was the rooster.

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But there is one thing that I
can't understand. With my brother's trailer being

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so close to ours, and with
those lights being as bright as they were,

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how did he not see them?
Oh, that's a cool story.

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That's kind of like a y'all.
I'm sorry, I've got a rooster and

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two hens in my office here.
I don't know if I'm turn if y'all

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and hear them, all right,
all right, I shoot them out.

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But I think this was one of
those type of let me get my microphone

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adjusted here. I think it's one
of those UFO type scenarios, almost like

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what was that? There was a
movie with Mel Gibson. M Night Shamalan

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was the was the producer and director. All they're fighting aliens. I can

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never remember names of movies. I'm
such a moron, but it's a great

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movie. It's a scary movie about
aliens, crop circles and all that stuff.

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And they finally come and they hear
this thing running across their roof and

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it winds up being one of these
really mean aliens that are trying to kill

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them. But that's what the story
reminded me of. And it's really cool.

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I love these alien stories. They're
great. So I appreciate the writer.

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He didn't leave a name, so
I'm not gonna even worry about that.

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But it was a good story,
so I appreciate the writer for sending

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it. It was great. Let's
go to another one, all right,

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here's an Oklahoma Bigfoot story. This
is pretty good. It's kind of short,

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but it's good. Here in Oklahoma, people still tend to think that

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your nuts if you go around telling
them that you've seen Harry Apes in the

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woods. For that reason, I've
kept this secret since I was fourteen.

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Six years of silence is enough.
I want my story told. At the

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time, my youth group was heading
to a national forest for a weekend camping

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trip. I don't remember the name
of the park, but I do remember

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that it was two or three hours
driving from home. We set up in

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a clearing that was surrounded by hundreds
of miles of woods, and thirty yards

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to our left was a creek,
and to our right was a concrete building

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built around a hole that served us
our toilet. The woods weren't full of

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game. There were deer and bear
and buy some and all those little critters

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that Disney likes to make characters out
of, and they were all around us.

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It was cool if you didn't mind
the bison poop in the middle of

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the campsite. Drinking from the creek
was off limits. The E. Coli

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bacteria in the water would have made
anyone stupid enough to drink it. Sicker

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than a dog. It was the
second night of the camp out. Everyone

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else was asleep. Most of them
had gone rock climbing that day and they

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were tired. I woke up to
nature's call, and not wanting to go

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to that nasty outhouse building, I
decided it would be best to relieve myself

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behind the tent. I grabbed my
flashlight so I could look out for snakes

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and such, and I stepped outside. I was still half asleep, and

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I lifted the flashlight and shined it
down toward the creek. It lit up

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a huge black figure that was eight
feet tall and four feet wide. I

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was only half awake, and my
first thought was that I was casting a

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long shadow. I waved at it, and it waved at me. It

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didn't move in unison with me.
It moved in response to me, but

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my mind wasn't functioning properly, so
it only served to confirm that I was

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looking at my own shadow. I
emptied my bladder and I went back to

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bed. Over the next week,
I thought a lot about that incident,

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and something didn't seem right. It
wasn't the handwaving aspect that finally made me

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realize that I was not looking at
my shadow. It was the realization that

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the flashlight was in my hand in
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And in addition to that, it
would have taken a huge light from far

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behind me to cast a shadow that
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It wasn't until I pieced all this
together that I gave serious thought to the

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handwaving. It mimicked me, and
that shook me to my core. I

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remember seeing long black hair hanging from
its arms and body, and I don't

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remember any facial features. It didn't
seem aggressive. I can't help but wonder

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if it had been coming into camp
every night and we had not known it.

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The fact that it mimicked me indicated
it had intelligence. But whatever it

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was, it wasn't just a beast. Well that's that's pretty cool. That's

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a full visual. I mean,
I don't think this guy's mistaken at all.

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I think he's I think he saw
a bigfoot. I think he walked

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down to go to the bathroom,
and I guess the backdrop of maybe moonlight

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or whatever, he could see the
outline of a dark form that was mimicking

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him. He waved, it waved
back. That's kind of unusual behavior for

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an animal, but maybe not for
a bigfoot. Either way, this was

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a wonderful story. I appreciate the
writer sending it. Okay, this is

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a pretty good email right here,
So have a seat and strap in.

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It's going to be a good a
gurden. Here's what the man rights.

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Back when I worked in the Aura
fineries in New Orleans, I met a

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man named Kevin. We got to
be pretty good friends, and this is

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the story he told me. When
he was ten years old, he was

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put into foster care. He never
said why, but he liked the man

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and woman who took him in.
They weren't mean, and nor did they

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expect him to do a lot of
hard work. They both worked outside of

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the home, so that meant that
Kevin spent a lot of time at home

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alone in the summer, and back
then a parent could do that without worrying.

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When he was out exploring, he
found a lake beyond the woods that

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were behind their house. He went
home and told his foster parents about it,

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and they told him that he could
go back there and play all he

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wanted. He was even allowed to
swim in the lake as long as he

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wore a life vest and to a
young boy like Kevin, that must have

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been paradise. The next chance he
got, Kevin headed back to the lake

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with his life fest in tow,
and when he got there, he was

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surprised to discover a boy and a
girl already playing in the water. As

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soon as they saw Kevin, though, they ran into the woods and hid

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well. Kevin shrugged his shoulders and
he went about his business. Weren't no

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skin off of his nose if those
kids didn't want to play with him anyway.

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There was a grapevine hanging from a
tree that Kevin got a hold of

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and swung himself out over the water, and he dropped in with a big

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splash and had a great time.
Then he climbed out and he did it

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again, and off in the distance, he could see those two kids watching

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him. Clearly they wanted to come
back and join him, but they seemed

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like they were a little afraid to
do it. As Kevin swung out for

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the third time, he motioned for
the two kids to come back and join

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him. That was all it took. Soon Kevin and his new two friends

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were playing around in the water like
lifetime buddies. Kevin wasn't to differences between

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him and the other two kids.
For one thing, they were completely covered

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in hair and they didn't wear swimsuits, and since they were playing in chest

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deep water, that fact didn't matter
much, but it did seem odd to

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Kevin, and he also noticed that
they were clearly foreigners. They didn't speak

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a word of English. They managed
to communicate just fine, though, by

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grunting and pointing, so that didn't
matter much either. That night, Kevin

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couldn't wait to tell us foster mother
about the kids that he had met at

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the lake. She asked what the
kids look like, and he said they

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were dark. He also explained about
the language barrier. Louise, his foster

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mother, was happy that he had
found some new playmates and that they were

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able to be friends despite not being
able to speak the same language. Several

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weeks went by during which Kevin played
almost daily in the lake with his new

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friends. They never learned to speak
English and he never learned to speak their

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language, but it didn't keep them
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then one day, Louise got off
of work early and decided to walk down

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to the lake to check on Kevin. As soon as she came into you

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Kevin's friends ran off into the woods. Well, he called after them,

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but they didn't answer. He would
have run after them, but Louise prevented

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him from doing that. Are those
your friends, she asked, trying to

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keep her voice calm. Yeah,
that's them. I don't know why they

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ran off like that, Kevin said. Louise put her hands on his shoulders

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then and leaned down so she could
look him square in the eye before saying,

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Kevin, Honey, them ain't children, these boogers. Kevin didn't understand

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what she was trying to tell him. What's a booger? Seeing the confusion

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on his face, Louise tried again, sweety them as monsters. Monsters,

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Kevin exclaimed, what do you mean
monsters? Well, for instance, they

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don't sleep in a house, they
sleep out in the woods, and they

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don't wear clothes because they're all covered
hair. Kevin couldn't argue that last part.

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He had often wondered about their situation. He couldn't help himself, though.

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His eyes slipped into the shadows where
his friends had disappeared. They didn't

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seem like monsters to him at all. He liked his friends. And then

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Louise said one last thing. I
don't want to talk about it anymore,

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and I don't want you going down
there near them, do you hear me?

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To do so is to bring on
bad luck? And with that,

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she and Kevin returned to the house. Kevin didn't sleep that night. He

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had a lot to think about.
His friends had never hurt him. He

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knew they were weird, but they
were his friends and he didn't want that

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to change. And he decided that
he wouldn't tell Louise about meeting them at

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the lake again. What she didn't
know wouldn't hurt her. Ultimately, he

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didn't have any choice in the matter. He went back to the lake every

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day for the rest of that summer, but the little boy and girl,

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who had been his closest companions for
months, they never came back. Meanwhile,

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Louise and her husband took on two
more boys. They weren't quite as

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easy to handle as Kevin. They
weren't troublesome kids, but they had their

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own set of issues. Tim who
was the older of the two, tried

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to get into bed with his foster
parents on several occasions. It got so

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bad that they had to start locking
their door, but that didn't keep him

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in his own bed, and when
he found the door locked, he curled

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up in a bond slept on the
floor in front of it like a cat.

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The younger one was named Mickey,
and he had his own issues.

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Several times he would wet the bed, and it wasn't an every night occurrence,

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and it wasn't a problem that he
brought with him. They didn't have

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an indoor toilet out where their house
was, and when the other two boys

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came to live with them, neither
Mickey nor Tim had issues with grabbing a

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flashlight and walking the path from the
kitchen door to the outhouse at the edge

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of the woods. And then one
day, for reasons and no one could

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understand, Micky started wedding the bed
at night. Time passed and Kevin grew

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up. He went his way,
and Tim and Mickey went their own ways.

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But they all kept in touch with
their foster parents, but none of

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them was especially good at keeping in
contact with each other. That's how it

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is. Sometimes. A few years
before Kevin told me this story, his

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foster father passed away. It was
the first time he had seen his foster

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brother in years. There was no
animosity between them, so it was only

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natural that the three found themselves sitting
together at the wake and talking over old

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times out there on the farm with
their foster parents. As with all funerals,

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there were some tea mixed with laughter
and a lot of reminiscing, and

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a few could have beens and maybe
nots. They'd been talking for quite a

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bit when Micky hesitantly asked a question. It was obvious that he wanted to

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ask it for quite some time,
but he was struggling to find the right

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words. Have you ever? He
started, and then realizing that that wasn't

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the right track, he began again
with when you were out there? Did

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you? Again? He wasn't sure
he was wording the question right, so

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he paused, but before he could
find another way, Tim said, weird

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stuff. Kevin and Mickey were both
stunned into silence. Kevin thought immediately of

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a swimming buddies, but he couldn't
imagine what the other two could be talking

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about. Weird things. Micky corrected, Yeah, weird things, agreed Tim,

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but Kevin didn't speak. Something in
the back of his mind was telling

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him that his foster brothers were not
going to share swimming stories. I never

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wet the bed before we came there
to live. Micky said, well,

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I mean not since I was a
toddler. Anyway. He gave each of

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the others a long look before going
on, as if to say, go

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ahead, challenge me. When neither
Kevin nor Tim said a word, he

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continued, I mean, it wasn't
like I enjoyed trapsing out to the outhouse

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in the middle of the night.
But I didn't mind it either. He

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looked down at the glass in his
hand. There was a drink someone had

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handed him earlier, like he didn't
know what to do with the empty drink.

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I kind of thought it was like
a big adventure, you know,

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like Indiana Jones kind of stuff.
It was a bad analogy, and Mickey

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knew it. The Indiana Jones movies
didn't come along until well after they were

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grown. He struked that off,
and he continued, there was this one

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night when it was storming. It
hadn't started raining yet, but man,

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was it like and thundering wicked.
Well, I was walking to the outhouse

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when one really bright bolt of lightning
lit up the sky like stadium lights at

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a Friday night football game. And
it was close too, because the crack

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that came with it was almost immediate
again. He stared into the cup,

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not wanting to make eye contact with
Tim or Kevin. Well, I looked

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up and then I Micky shifted his
head and formed the words with his mouth,

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but no sound came out. A
single piece of ice was trapped in

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the bottom of that cup, and
he spun it around like a tiny race

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car on a plastic track, and
after several seconds, Tim said, you

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saw it, didn't you. Micky's
eyes moved up to meet Thames. I

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take it you did too, he
asked. Yeah. It was tall and

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covered in hair, face right out
of a nightmare. No one spoke,

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and although Kevin knew his swimming buddies
weren't scary to look at, he had

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long suspected that they would have been
by the time they grew up. He

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watched him now, knowing that he
would share his story too. You know

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how I used to sleep outside of
the folks bedroom at night, Tim asked

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Kevin, and Mickey nodded. That
thing used to look in my window.

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My bed was right there beside the
window, except for a thin pane of

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glass between us. I could have
reached out and touched it. It came

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and looked in the window all the
time. Tim and Mickey traded descriptions and

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recall their emotions for several minutes while
Kevin listened, and when they finally exhausted

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themselves, he told his story.
And then he told them how Louise had

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called them boogers and monsters and said
not to speak to them because it would

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bring bad luck. The three left
the funeral that day, promising to keep

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in touch and feeling a little happier
for having shared their stories with each other.

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Louise was happy to have them together
and made them all promised to come

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and see her soon. Kevin did
one better. He bought some land nearby

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and had it cleared so he could
build a house there. And once the

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building began, he saw Bigfoot several
times. It didn't surprise him at all.

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The lake where he had swam as
a kid made up nearly half of

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his property. They never came too
near, but Kevin found himself wondering if

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he had disturbed their home and if
they were upset with him for having done

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so. It turned out that Kevin
had a coworker who held Bigfoot weekends on

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a regular basis, so he figured
it would be safe to open up and

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talk about his own encounters. The
man was intrigued, and he offered Kevin

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money to allow him to host his
Bigfoot weekends on that land. Guys were

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paying him four hundred dollars to come
out and drink beer and help themselves to

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his fireplace stew while he told stories, and in turn, Kevin learned about

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the elusive creatures. He started leaving
apples in various places in the woods,

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and when he came back, those
apples were always gone. One weekend,

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he decided to tell the others what
he had been doing, and while this

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spurred some debate, it was also
a catalyst that sent everyone out into the

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woods to try and get a glimpse
of some bigfoot. One guy saw movement

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and he quickly shined his light in
that direction, and he was shocked to

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see that there were two of them
standing there. Either out of instinct or

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fear, or maybe he was in
a full bore panic, the man pulled

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his gun and he shot one of
them. They unleashed an angry growl and

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began moving through the woods, tearing
through the trees and screaming. Everyone was

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so scared that they all ran for
their vehicles. As the guy who fired

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his gun jumped into his a tree
fell on the core. He didn't get

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away. Well. That weekend changed
everything for Kevin. The Bigfoot were bolder

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now, and they were angry,
and they came up to the house at

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night and slammed the walls and sometimes
they'd break out windows. Kevin built a

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safer room inside the house that he
could get into and lock himself inside if

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they ever managed to get inside the
house. And when they tore down a

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door and he had to test the
strength of that room, he knew it

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was time to move. After that, the property sat empty for the most

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part. It was sold a couple
of times, and families would move in,

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but they never stayed for long.
That didn't matter to Kevin. He

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wasn't going back there. He told
me that he understood now what Louise meant

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when she wanted him to stay away
from them. He didn't think they were

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automatically monsters, but he did think
that if anything could bring out a monster

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in them, it would be a
human being. And once that happened,

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your luck really does run out.
That was a great story, man,

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That's like this epic saga of these
foster kids and Kevin going back and building

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a place. I'm not going to
ruin it by adding my silly commentary.

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But man, what a great story. I have the man's name, but

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he doesn't say whether to give it
or not. And he's just repeating a

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story that her friend told him.
But whoa, this was a good one.

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This was a good one. Thank
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appreciate you listening this far. We'll
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