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Jeff Grubb. Whit me is Mike mannaughty. In today's episode, Dragon's Dogma
two looks pretty freaking good. What to expect from the Game Awards and the
Best Games of two thousand and eight. Mikey, how are you doing?
I'm good. There's a lot I need to do for like work before I
go to LA, and I was like, I have today and tomorrow to
do it. Well, I like, I had like a four hour like
demo today, so there's not I have tomorrow to do it. You don't
have tomorrow, Mike. I'm for like half the day tomorrow. I know.
By the way, like at two thirty our time, I do have
something I do for work for a little bit. I d have to dip
up for a little bit at some point. That's all right, no worries.
That's what because that two and a half hours before then. I don't
know how somewhere You're going, Yeah, should we will probably be wrapping it
up not too long after that, So I don't know. Maybe we could
put like the silly category right around then. That doesn't mean anything. I
don't know. We'll figure it out. We'll figure out exactly. I'm not
usky real job getting in the way of things. You know, no worries.
We're just glad that you can come hang out with us as much as
you can. Uh. But yeah, I know what you mean. A
lot going on. Most of my stuff is like work is still like there
and piling up, and like we're doing a bunch of guest lists. I'm
adding more names to the list, but at a certain point, I'm just
gonna like get a bunch of docs and I'll overlook them and then I'm gonna
hand them to Sean and Marino over John Bum. Have those guys just post
it, uh, And so that'll be nice. I'll just hand it off
to them. But in the meantime, it's like, Okay, I got
all that happening. I got to make sure everyone knows what's going on with
GB at night. And then I just went, oh my god, we
have game, like the actual live show that we need to be producing.
And we we got in a pretty good state and we have some fun ideas,
but still it's like, man, that's looming large. So all these
things happened, and then I got like, oh, I'm gonna be leaving
my house and my wife and my kids for a bunch of days. So
I got to make sure things are set here before I leave. And that's
that's what stressed me out right now. I can't believe I got a calendar
invite for a dress rehearsal on my birthday. You're gonna make me work on
my birthday? Yeah, it's I have. It's funny like I'm going I'm
gonna be in l A for a while. I have a lot of stuff
I'm doing when I'm there. One of the things I'm not doing is going
to the Game Awards. I have a ticket they only give like they only
gave like our outlet one and other you had to buy the other one and
those just sold out. Now. Oh but like, but I'll tell you
what if I wasn't doing my real job where I'm actually like have to like
orchestrate and write stories during the Game Awards, sure I'll go sit down and
watch the Game Awards. Nothing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I don't
like and I've done it before the three shows. Were you going with like
a laptop and you're trying to work while sitting in an audience. That's no
Blano, That's that's pretty rough. I've done that for BlizzCon things. I've
done that for e three shows. Uh, you know it's it can be
a lot. So, uh, that's okay because I'll hang out with you
and Jan and Dan. I think, uh I might bring Jordan actually asked
her. Yeah, but she's gonna be there and she's she can come hang
out for sure. Well, if we have enough room, maybe we should
come sit in on that that'd be great too. But yeah, we're gonna
we're gonna watch you talk over and I much prefer that, like I've been
with the first one better, And the first one was in Las Vegas.
It was like already kind of like more fun in general because you're like in
a casino hotel and everyone's just hanging out right there and it was good.
It was cool. But boy, I'm just like I want to I would
rather be talking on the internet laughing and making fun jokes about this instead,
and said, I'm gonna just sit there quietly having things throwing advertised at my
eyeballs. I'm good. I mean when I did go that one, it
was like Cogi Condo performing with Imagine Dragons the one time. I liked to
Imagine Dragons a whole bunch because they were performing with Coachi Condo. That was
really cool and those moments do stand out. But I don't know if that
really makes it worth it for me, And I'm like, no, you
know, you know, I get people who still enjoy going and like hanging
out with other people, but I just don't need that. Yeah, I
mean, I'm excited to see people. I'm going to see a lot of
them at you know, uh GB at night. Yeah, I'm bringing the
people to us. Yeah exactly. So whatever I'm gonna and there's some other
things I'm gonna see plenty of people. I don't actually need to go to
the show. Ricky, I want to be in this show. I don't
know. I go. I love Lucy on You. Yeah, no,
listen, I love a little Rick Ricardo. Ricky Ricardo, Ricky Ricardo.
That movie came out. I want seem to care that much though, right,
Yeah, listen, what did they have like a pretty good director and
writer and all that stuff. Then no one cares. I assume that means
it wasn't that interesting. I suppose so, all right. You can get
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Who's in it? Yeah yeah, Jordan Miners joining us, so yes,
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that book that I helped uh out with a little section, and he's
going to be joining us and we're going to we're gonna compete. He should
know a ton because he had to write about every video game. Yes,
yes, it's that buzzer. You're the best of the buzzer game. I
still win usually because I'm smarter than you. But your buzzer game is very
You say that, but it's like so many times I'm feeling frustrated because you
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get it ninety percent of the time. I swear to God. All right,
before we start, We're going to just me and you do a round
of like buzzing and see like out of ten, and I want to see
what it is. Okay, Yeah, I test the buzzer, test the
buzzer. How would we do? We just have Sean like three two,
Sean tell us he's gonna unlock it. We're just gonna mash he's just gonna
unlock it, and we're just gonna see who it says out of ten times,
because I bet it'll be you, like nine of them is what I'm
betting. Okay, all right, I'm excited to see this. All right,
let's see you. Yeah, I think I'm ready to get into the
big topics of the week, Mike, how about you? Yes, sir,
Dragon's Dogma two looks pretty good. Yeah, it does. And it's
coming out like it's going to be here before you and you know it.
It's coming before, it's coming exactly when I know it, because it's coming
on my birthday, Mike, the real birthday, the one that actually matters.
Oh cares about that. Well, clearly Capcom cares about it. So
Dragon's Dogma two coming March twenty second, twenty twenty four. Again, I
mean, I suppose we could have expected this, but for me, it's
out of nowhere. I just was not thinking about this game coming out this
soon. And I watched I watched the trailer, the you know, the
preview event that they did, uh, And I think it looks really cool
that the Shadow of the Colossus segment. Actually it's great. And I don't
know I'm ready for this. I I want to play Dragons Dogma one more
time before I try this game. But if, like I get to that
point, it's like, oh I never got gave Dragons dog another chance,
that won't matter. I'm going to hop right into this because I'm very excited
about it. I'm kind of excited to go into this, never having played
a second of Dragons Dogma one, Like this is going to be like a
Street Fighter two situation. For Okay, yes, I think it could be
that in some ways in a broad sense, like this game could pop off
in a way the first one never really did. One did fine, but
just because of the excitement for Capcom, the excitement for one of these a
Skyrim like Right, that's kind of like a general gist here. Obviously,
you know, a bit more faster paced. Com had an a lot of
other stuff going on, for sure, But yes, I think generally that's
a fair way of putting it. Yeah, I think people are hungry for
that kind of experience right now, especially with like new outer scrolls absolutely nowhere
in the horizon, avowed nowhere on the horizon really, So this game is
going to slot in pretty nicely, and if you know, if it has
that quality that Capcom has been delivering for all of their big games lately,
right and like you know, I know they're smaller games sometimes people like aren't
crazy about the dinosaur game. What is that called Exo Primal? Exo Primal?
Yeah, I know you had a good time with a giant bomb.
Yes, everyone I played with liked it a lot. I think Sean liked
it too. Yeah, but when they've been firing big shots lately. Let's
have almost always hit. I can't really remember last time they haven't, right,
Double May Cry five, the Resident Evils, the Monster Hunters. And
that's kind of like the trajectory I see this on this I kind of like
almost expect this to be surprisingly big. I don't know how you can expect
something to be surprising, but there I am. Yeah, I'm right there
with you, and I'm hoping that that's exactly the story here and it hits
exactly like that, because you know, we had a really strong year of
games, and well, I like when you say, like, oh man,
what if next year sucks, we can catch up on some of these
games. I get the feeling next year is going to be pretty good as
well. I think the Game Awards might actually set the tone for that here
pretty soon. But it'd be cool, like, hey, yeah, let's
just keep it going. Let's just drag its Dogma and March. It's going
to be a Game of the Year container maybe, Yeah, I would love
that. Well, we'll see if that's actually how it actually plays out,
but that is my hope. I don't know any other final thoughts about this
game before we move on and of course, if anyone has any questions,
feel free to ask a super chat. I'm very excited about that character attacks
with incense, Like, how did that work? Could you tell? It
looked like it was more kind of a buffing debuffing thing or something really like
a support character. But you know he had like you, I had to,
you know, when I was an ULTI boy had that thing, the
chain with the incense. I thought about using it as a weapon. But
you know it's because I feared God. But I can now live out in
that fantasy in Dragon's Dogma two. Right, you could do things in video
games that you cannot do at Disney Church. Of course. No, I
don't know the last thing here. It's just no, I don't have any
other thoughts. I just left my brain like that, though you try to
come up with one that's okay. We could just move on, though,
we could just move on. Yeah, it was. It was a moment
for me, senior moment, I'll say, in your moment, Yeah it's
happening. I am thinking a lot about the Game Awards though, because that
is going to be next Thursday. Well, I do want to try to
do something with these podcasts next week everybody, but again not sure what that
will look like. But maybe we'll put something in the feeds. We'll find
something out to do. But out there's the luck going on. There's a
lot going on, including next Thursday will be the Game Awards, and I
figured what we could do here is maybe try to figure out a little bit
of what to expect, give us some predictions and for predictions for like what's
going to be announced there, not for who's going to be the winners,
although we can do that if if you want. I just don't particularly care
at this moment, but yeah, we'll chop right in. I want to
know. I want to know predictions for Game of the Year. I guess
is that okay? Yeah, sure, what we do? Yeah, definitely
definitely let's start there. So I am thinking that it's probably going to be
Alan Wake too. I think it's going to have the momentum at the right
time. I think it's still going to be Bordersgate three. I think that
it's good going to be number two. Yeah, It's it's funny that you
don't you think that gam is going to come in third with the votes,
isn't Who would have thought that coming into the year Yeah. I mean,
I just think that the way that it's working out for these voters is they
I think the voters into the Game Awards are going to prioritize novelty and I
think they will find Alan Wake two and boulders Gate three to be more novel
than the sequel to Breath of the Wild. Yeah. Yeah, novel these
one way putting it, and that is correct. It's a critic way putting
it. But there's just they're kind of better stories because these are sequels that
both were a long time coming and people did not have very big expectations for
them. And we go back to listen to all the podcasts at this time
last year talking about twenty twenty three. The games everyone was talking about were
like Zelda, Starfield, Final, Fantasy, Diabolo. Nobody was really talking
that much about how excited they were for boulders Gate three and Alan Wake two.
A lot of people assumed down like two wasn't even going to come out
this year. People are like, well, that's slotted for next year,
but that's going to get delayed. So in fact, those games came in
and over delivered. Over delivering is always the best thing you can do for
your Game with the Year chances, right, Yes, definitely. I'm like
trying to like I'm trying to see, like what we voted for, and
I can't say obviously everybody, but I'm like, I'm just trying to get
an idea, and now I'm looking, I'm like, I don't I don't
know if Band actually voted, maybe he just sent in his ballots secretly.
But yeah, I think you're right over delivering. Like having that's a huge
part of it, because expectations and then overcoming those expectations that sets a tone
for the game itself. And then if the game is like great on top
of that, like not in a vacuum compared to everything else around it,
that'll really push it over the top. And I just think that the kind
of game that wins Game of the Year typically is the one that does have
really strong narrative, really strong memorable characters, something that you could sit down
and show to somebody and be like, this is what's impressive about this?
And I think allan Wick two checks a lot of those boxes. I think
Boalderskate three does as well. It's just it takes a little bit longer for
people to get that. Now in Baldergate Boulderskate three's favor or, and it's
in its corner. It's the fact that it was this huge viral hit and
people were talking about it across all these social media platforms in a similar way
to Elean Ring. So I'm not gonna be surprised if that ends up winning
at all. But yeah, the other possible here is that maybe allen Wick
two and Boulderskate three split the vote a little bit somehow, and Zelda does
sneak in, but I don't think so. So it's funny how like at
Zelda one people I think people would be mad. There would be some people
would be mad. I mean, people are gonna be mad no matter what.
Of course, imagine if Resie before one, how mad they get.
I'd love it. Yeah, that would be sweet, sweet anger, and
I would drink all right. So what do you expect from the Game Awards
In terms of announcements. I wrote down some thoughts here, some stuff.
There are some things that I've heard that I'm like, I'm not sure if
I want to spoil, So I think I'm gonna save those things everybody,
But I'll try to talk around things a little bit here, But then the
rest is like either speculation or based on things that we're hearing that I can't
confirm one way or the other. Starting with hell Blay two, Clockwork Revolution,
in South of Midnight, all those Xbox games have all been rated in
Australia. Do you think that we could get updates on those three games?
And I know you just mentioned you hope you didn't see hell Blay two again.
Well, okay, I said that. I immediately regretted it. But
the last Helblay two shilling was so boring to me. Hey, look,
if they want to come out of helbribly too and really try to impress us
and show us why this game is going to be a big game next year
and doing a way that look, I get it, it's a very narrative
focused game. Sure, Like show me why in terms of gameplay that game
is going to be interesting and impressive and cool. I think I go for
all three of these games. Yeah, all of these games are in that
same bucket of I mean, a Clockwork Revolution, It's like that's probably just
going to be a BioShock and whatever. Okay, I know, go for
one of those. I guess exactly. I just need to play it to
know if it's a it's a good one of those, so whatever, whatever
you show that, if it's more of the BioShock sort of feel look and
feel whatever. South of Midnight, we have no idea what that game is
as a game. It had a really stylish debut, and remind people,
the Clockwork Revolution is the one that looks exactly like BioShock Infinite basically. And
South of Midnight is that stylish Louisiana Bayou ass looking game. Oh right,
they had that one, sure, yeah, right, at least that games
like that game stands out visually a bit more better on the look. Yes,
yeah, but they're all trying to help you wait for hel Bay does
two good looking games, and I think for a lot of people just like
seeing interesting sore hooks is enough. You know me and you no, not
really, I want to see why I'm going to be interested in it as
a game, yes, and yeah, South of Midnight is Compulsion's next game,
that's right. The people that made we happy few, But yeah,
I would love to see gameplay for all of those now, because just because
these things got rated in Australia doesn't guarantee that will be at the game Awards.
It's just as likely that these things will get some other announcement in some
other venue. A lot of companies have been doing stuff outside of the Game
Awards that that could happen with these three. But I do like Xbox says,
they will have stuff there and you could probably expect a pretty big announcement
from them, and maybe multiple big announcements from them, or at least interesting
stuff that they're bringing. So yeah, we can look forward to that at
the very least. Again not try trying not to spoil anything. Let's see
elder Ring DLC. That seems pretty likely, right, yeah, man,
I mean it's been some instance we've really heard about that we haven't really heard
anything super substantial about. That was a little bit of murmurs of I can't
remember what platform, but there were some updates to elden Ring in some back
end I don't know if it was Steam or something else, and people made
note of it like this is strange and might signify something. Who knows,
but I'll say that. I mean, elden Ring had a really good showing
at Akille thing before, so it would make sense to come here with the
DLC. And they're like, we have a date and stuff, right,
No, exactly, like they use a chilly stuff to promote that game heavily
in the first place, and it clearly like you know everything that game did,
Like you want to change anything right about the promotion? Why not just
do it again? Yep? Absolutely, And I'm boy if I think if
we get Eldering DLC, this is already a really good show. Wow.
Oh yeah in terms of like my excitement, because I would, I'm I'm
ready to go back into elder Ring. Give me some more story stuff in
there, give me some more land masses to explore. I'm ready to go
this one. I'm not going to give like too many details on I heard
something Jurassic Park related might be happening, but I can't confirm it. Uh
So I'm not going to talk about like what I've heard it is. But
if it comes up from once I don't have my Jurassic Park bottle open here
here, I was gonna do a bit. Yeah, I like I told
you about this one, and it sounds pretty cool, right if it works
out that way? Yeah, what you told me sounds like a very good
fing right, Like a Jurassic Park game can mean a lot of things.
Is what you told me. Seems like a good idea. I hope it's
real. I hope it's real as well. And if it is, we
don't hear about the Game Awards. I think we'll hear about it soon one
way or the other. And again, that's if it's real. I don't
know. Dragon Age also seems pretty likely they have a history of doing stuff
at the Game Awards. EA is not gonna have anything mass effect related.
They did their thing on in Seven Day that's still years and years away.
Dragon Age is still, at this moment scheduled to come out next year,
probably sometime after the summer of next year. But hey, doing something the
Game Awards to like set the tone of like, yeah, next year's still
happening. I think that's very likely. What do you think? Yeah,
But like at this point, I want to see something substantial, right,
I don't want to see another like twenty second story trailer that's mostly a person's
feet or shadow or like magic spell, right, Like, hey, maybe
we could see some gameplay of this, Maybe you can get a real idea
of what the structure of this game is going. And that's why I'm like
not certain about this, because these days companies save their big like in depth
gameplay trailers until they're very close to excuse me, unil they're very close to
release, and if this game's not coming out to the second half of next
year, maybe they just hold off until they're actually ready and they don't have
anything for this, but you know, the history suggests that it's very likely
they'll have something here, so we'll see. And then what do you think
about Nintendo? Do you think Nintendo's gonna have anything substantial there? Ah,
not really. Uh, maybe something smaller and maybe something smaller that'd be really
cool to me, Like, I don't know if I can't even see them
be like, yeah, we're using this platform to talk about Metroid Prime to
remastered. Uh, you know, they don't have any big deal see,
really left to talk unless there's like Mario Wonder DLC something like that. I
don't know. Again, I feel like Nintendo's next big showcase. It's kind
of hasked to start talking about a console here, right, and that this
doesn't really seem to be part of the plans for December. We already know
enough about the games coming out from them, like the next six months.
They don't really need to say too much here. I can kind of see
them just laying low. And they've been laying low at these things anyways,
and now it feels like they might be laying the lowest of lows. So
when I wrote down here, Ellipses metroate Prime four question mark, you think,
no, way, no, we're seeing metrid Prime four here. Yeah,
I am. I am in general, way less optimistic about metroc Prime
four being a thing in next year compared to like you and other people.
That's not even within my expectations. Be nice, but I'm not really expecting
it. I agree with you for the most part about it not being here.
The one thing is that Metroid is a very Western franchise. This is
a lot of eyeballs, and there's angers a chance, but probably it would
be. It wouldn't be a bad venue for it. You're right, it
would be. It's a good fit, that's right. That's my whole thing
here is it's a good fit. That doesn't mean anything. That means zero.
So it's probably not going to be there, but I would love it
so hopefully. And then what about Sony. I mean, so that's interesting
because like they almost seem to be in a position where that it'd be a
good idea because we don't know very much at all about what they're twenty twenty
four is going to look like a lot of people are going to be watching
this. It just depends on you know, Sony so often does just like
to do their own thing anymore. But they've been a part of a chilly
stuff before. I hope, so let me put that. I hope.
So, I hope we get a really big drop from Sony. I think
that could be kind of the thing from the show even really, I think
it would benefit both PlayStation and Great Game of Wards itself, So like,
that's something I think we could see and I would like to see. I
agree, But I mean, Sony's been so like pull the rug out from
your expectations. Like that PlayStation showcase, it's like, Okay, we're gonna
get all answers there. I felt like we didn't really get any answers there,
and so I'm like, well, we'll get some answers here. And
I'm like, now I'm not even getting my hopes up for for that.
They'll talk about these games when they're ready to talk about them, and I'm
sure they have a ton of stuff in the works. Things that are going
to be really exciting and surprising. But I'm not gonna get my hopes up
too much for this showcase to be for PlayStation. I'll say one last thing
that I have heard, and this is like very vague stuff, but that
there will be a lot of new IP cool stuff from third parties. Again,
try not to spoil anything. I don't know overall, Like, are
you do think that this is We're going to come out of this this Game
Game Awards and be like that was a really good showcase for new games?
Well, no, because nobody ever thinks that, even when I think it
is sometimes especially when but when you are like, if it is new IP
heavy, like, let's be honest, what people are going to get excited
about. People are going to get hyped about sequels. You know, they
want you to come back, yes, right, yeah, if you're like
maybe, if you're like, here's from software game, then people will give
it some leateway on being the new IP, right, But you know,
if it's just some new IP from some studio that like people don't really know,
or they made a couple of big games but nothing that recording, it's
not nominated for Game of the Year. That's messed up. It's a bit
messed up. I'm funny. I mean, like I'm surprised. How you
know, like how many Jans there were? Right, People are like,
I don't don't really like it right to me, I was like, no,
it's not the like but uh so good. I think it's great,
Like it's very very good. But what you're going to do, Yeah,
I don't know any other predictions coming from your your side of things, anything
that you were like would like to see that would be ideal. Gosh,
I mean, I don't know. It's it's so hard to say because like
what I always want is to be surprised in a fun way. That's what
I always want. So you know, for me being uh the kind of
this somewhat nostalgic gamer I am, it means seeing old franchises come back and
get a sequel, and that's something I could be explained. I'm as guilty
as as anybody, right, Like, I'm gonna definitely they came out there's
a twisted metal. I'm going to care a lot more about that than some
new ip I never heard of, even if it looks really cool, right,
I'll probably even make snarky jokes at that thing's expense because I'm a bad
person. Do you think there's a chance that Microsoft might have it's like hardware
refreshes here, because it's done that in the past as well. And we
learned about those the discless Xbox like the cylinder one from the ft Yeah,
the dickless one. That's right, judge, this man has no penis.
Yeah, I mean Ghostbusters, what can I do? Yeah, the FTC
documentation had a handful of new hardware from Microsoft. I think there's a chance
that could happen here. I guess. I guess it's a little what did
it look like last time they revealed hardware because I have a hard time imagining.
Then in the middle of it was didn't they they did Xbox one X
at the show, right, and I don't remember. Yeah, And then
I think that then they confirm Xbox Series X is coming, but they don't
think they showed it, showed it. I think they just like said and
we got new hardware coming something along those lines, but they just really like
showed it there. That was the bigger aval for it. Okay, all
right, then, yeah, there you go. Then I guess that's a
distinct possibility then yeah, I mean Phil Spencer's on the board of directors for
the Game Awards or board of advisors. I suppose it's probably not directors,
and I think they have a close relationship. He's done that before. It's
not it's worked out in the past. I I bet something along those lines
happens here. It could happen here, not like guaranteeing it or anything,
but I think that could happen, especially since it's like, you can't wait
too long on these these heart these things, because if PS PlayStation is going
to have a PS five pro, these things are going to look silly next
to that. So you might we want to get these out and convince me
fantastic. You promise it's definitely happening. Yeah, no problem. Any other
thoughts, No, No, that's it. I'm just I'm excited to see
you, you know. I mean, the show always guarners a lot of
criticism, and hey, go ahead criticize it, right, I don't care.
I think just as generally as good a show as we are ever going
to get U in terms of like being this big and be getting people actually
watching it, Jeff, I know, people get set like, oh,
not enough about the awards. I get that, and I there definitely is
a point. It is kind of stilly when awards aren't even mentioned during the
show. But I don't know. My expectations always a bit more realistic.
I think, like, I'm yeah, the real Game Awards are happening in
the Saturday after this. And right so we're live in Los Angeles, California.
Everybody, all right, what we're gonna do is we're gonna take a
quick break. When we get back, we're gonna talk about some super chats.
Then we have some other stuff going on this episode. We'll do all
that right after this and we're back. Mike, we have some super chats,
go ahead and read those. On second, I'm responding to all these
negative reviews we have on on on iTunes as I still think, yeah,
look, I'm gonna tell them why they're wrong. Jeff, Yeah, that's
a good idea. That's god. Yeah, I guess so people talk about
that, Yeah yeah, but that thing that was pretty fucking stupid. It's
pretty simple, like responding to negative reviews is part of a community manager's job
for like any business. The way that they're doing it is so stupid,
Like the actually you're wrong about what you think is fun? What the fuck
are you talking about? Right? Like some people are they watch people do
this like Okay, that's not necessarily the problem, although I think maybe you
just shouldn't. But to be clear, they're doing it poorly. Well,
I mean like some people are like really good at it. You know Dave
Ausry, like he does that all the time, and a lot of times
he just makes fun of people who are being stupid in his reviews and it's
great. It's like a funny thing to do. Big corporation's doing it facelessly
and telling people like, actually, it's not boring. Actually when h yeah,
when the astronauts went to the moon, they weren't bored. They get
no shit. If I really went to one of these planets, yes,
boried, and that's a completely different thing. Anyway, Yes, you have
to say genuous. All right, we shall read our iTunes reviews. Oh
yeah, sure, absolutely, because they just let let that Argentinian talk more,
is what they'll and I'll be able. These are bullshit reviews. I
know what you don't know. They're a Christian. All right, let's do
this, Big Fresh thirty seven says I think we might see the re emergence
of Multiverses at the Game Awards. Don't laugh. I love that game.
I mean it's supposed to come back, right, So yeah, I'm like
trying to like putting myself in Jeff Keeley's shoes. If Warner Brothers comes to
you and says, hey, we have a trailer for the new release of
multi Verses, do you think he would be excited about that? I'm guessing
actually probably yes because there's may but yes, yeah, Well that's what I'm
trying to think. What do you ask for money or not? I don't
know who can Warner Brothers put in that game? Like what hot Warner Brothers
character from the last couple of years? Could they put in a really spike
some interest? What has Waterer Brothers been up to? Is that the game
that has Walter from? Am I making that up? That could have been
a meaning? But yes, I'm breaking back, I'm breaking back. Yeah,
he doesn't's in that game. Betty's supposed to be on the It was
like a lea Okay, he was okay, he was never in that game
though that never actually happened, you know, but it was like a leak
and it's supposed to be in there, and the leak looked pretty real,
but I don't know. Yeah, well it did not happen. Well,
they put the guy from Wait a second, that's to be like, well,
there's not in it. He just they just want him in that.
Okay, that's what I just said. You don't listen, you don't care
what I say. Well, I just didn't believe you. You just said
it so you sounded like there's no way that's real. And from a place
of no knowledge. I just thought you were being uh like frustrated with us
even entertain the idea that that was possible, and I was it was yeah,
right, But I thought you were just angry and not oh I'm always
angry. Hey, if one of our brothers Pictures distributed the Barbie movie,
maybe they came out and said, hey, we have Barbie in multi verses.
Maybe then yeah, will care. I am pretty sure if it was
like that version of Barbie, uh, Hasbro or whoever Mattel would ask for
so much goddamn money is you probably would not make that game make any financial
sense anymore. Their uh and Tony A morale says officially off every Monday until
Jerry twenty second twenty twenty four. I'm nice any suggests how to completely waste
his free time and make me regret my decisions. Thanks, uh to regret
your decisions. Get get really into World of Warcraft right now? Yeah,
I was gonna sound like some live service game, just like we get into
Destiny one. I think you Classic just launch like its new season or mode
or whatever that get ever Quest to play ever Quest two? Yeah no,
no, RuneScape Classic Request two is like one of those weird like technically still
alive because there's like two und Yeah. I agree, like like those are
so weird, Like there's people make content about that, Like what's it like
to play these games now? And it's always very weird. It's like joining
a cult. Rachel acker Less, this a five on the super Chat.
I don't know what that signifies. It is their fifth super chat. I
don't know why YouTube's counting it like that, but whatever, thanks for your
fifth super chat. I'll go for it. Thank you so much, Rachel.
I finally got around to elden Ring and understand the hype. Now,
what's a game you came back to later that just clicked with you? Yeah,
Gunstar Heroes I played way after it came out, and that instantly clicked
and instantly became my favorite Genesis game. You know, I was playing just
before the stream was a killer instinct, that Xbox One version that just got
an update, and I never played that much of it back then. I
wasn't really in a big fan gay mood at the time. And since then
people have been talking about how much they liked this game, Like this game
like, oh okay, I didn't realize it was that well liked and just
playing it for a couple hours today, met it yesterday. Yes, that
game was very good and I immediately get it. It's super Does it have
the juice? Yeah, it's got juice in the juice is all like like
the Killer Sicks. Whole thing, right is try to imitate America nineties cool,
but everybody making the game is from England, so it's almost like it's
not quite a parody of it, but it is. It's in that same
vein I know, right, It's it's charming because of that. Yeah,
that's fun. It's good. It's very good. Zubermer says my Spotify raped
is all Guilty Gear and Casey Lee williams, are they any podcasts that all
goes through YouTube and Patreon. My if I rapped this was even more hinge
than usual, Jeff. It's just a mess of like new metal and video
game music and Jimmy Buffett. And my third most listening song of the year
was Jaffar song from the Return of Jafar. It was it was a mess.
Yeah. YouTube does their YouTube rapped equivalent and for YouTube music and mine
is I'm always like, oh man, I can't wait to see what it
was. And it's like, oh, you use Cruising Blasts theme song as
your alarm every day, so that's one of them. And then here's the
ship your kids listen to one hundred times every day. And I'm like,
oh, yeah, okay, never mind. This isn't useful it all,
Jeff, you really do wake up to just gra am. Still not sick
of it either. I don't. I was sick of it the second time
you played it. I picked a different I picked a different song for Astrobus
and Tudogs. You're just like, no, absolutely the fuck not. Yeah.
Cody Bishop says, Hey, guys, I just got an old steaming
deck. What system do you think is the best at to emulate that would
take advantage of that new screen. Yeah, you know what, it is
a fucking nesse. Most games have like real dark black backgrounds, and seeing
those like little pixels pop against that old metroid is especially cool. There's a
bunch of them that look really cool. So yeah Man Stage and Mega Man
five. Yeah, yeah's Mega Man and it looks great on an O lead.
It's just it's fantastic. So Andy s is top tier stuff. But
honestly, all of them, it all looks great on the olead Dak says.
Word on the street is Jeff got a piece of Mike's beard hair and
has cloned one hundred Robocottonman not needs to be his security. Wouldn't that be
hilarious? Just shooting Dick's left and right, he'll be crazy. Yeah,
that's all they're doing, and just like what have I done? This is
keeping nobody safe? Hey you Peka Blue, says Michael Jeffrey min nub Will
Hornets of the Hollow Nests make an appearance at TGA's or is this game the
new halfway three tootles? Okay, now I have two thoughts. Now I
have two thoughts. One, Hey, this is a way better chance of
having Hollow Night than like that indie showcase Nintendo had did one. Yes,
it could be here, like that game has to be shown at some point.
It has been forever, Like that game is going to come out someday.
People are very excited about. It's a big deal game. That game
could be at the Game Awards. It just could. Like, I think
there's a distinct possibility. I don't want hopes up, but it's a distinct
possibility. And now that they have put this out there, Jeff, look,
there's not a zero percent chance we see half Life three. I mean
to be there to be cool. Look, half Life Alex. They did
set up Half Life three, Like I assume that a lot of people just
made that game then started working on a half Life three. They just did
all this anniversary stuff for Half Life one. I look, look, it's
not a great chance. It's as best of chances we have had in a
very long time. All Right, I'm buying. I'm buying. Buy,
I'm buying what you're selling here. Yeah, I'm in. You got me.
You know what I'm I'm there it is. I'm calling my shot.
I'm calling my shot. Happened that would be fucking Buck's halfway. That would
be nuts. Okay, all right. I hope it happens, because that'd
be a that'd be I'll go wild with you. That is going to be
a real video game someday. I know it doesn't feel like it, but
it is. But I think it could think it could be. Not because
I said this, we aren't gonna get Half Life three or All the Night,
So we're gonna have like three, but in like twenty five years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be too infirmed to play it. Eli
Meracle says, Hey, oh, boys, waiting to bore my plane.
My luggage was slightly overright, placeation five and laptop with me. Listen,
it's tiny. We'll report in the rest later. Yeah, happy travels,
Ali Miracle. Look forward to seeing you at the live show. Hey,
if any of you are going to the live show, we are excited to
see you, let us know we are really looking forward to it. If
you haven't got tickets yet, I understand there are a very few of those
left, correct, Jeff, Yeah, I mean I think you're gonna be
sold out by tomorrow, maybe, man, I hope, so that'd be
fun. So it's a fun to be sold out by the time the show
starts, Like there's a zero chance Christian Chimeman in to tell me how it's
not cool that we sold out the show again. I'm sure he has those
reasons. Oh Grog says, any shadow drops or demos at the Game Awards,
Like, wasn't there a final Fantasy seven demo? Rumor also take a
shot for every game pass commercial. I could totally see a seven Rebirth demo.
Screens has liked demos lately. That game is definitely getting ramped up for
its release next year. I could see that. I also just see that
Gable might have like a trailer of some kind, absolutely, maybe one that
we had a tease of Vincent in the last one. Maybe we see more
of him, although I forget if Vincent's going to be a party member or
this one or a guest character like Red thirteen was. I don't know.
There's still plenty of things that can show to get people excited about Rebirth.
I'm already pretty excited about Rebirth. Jev Man seven roommake was so good.
Yeah, I never beat remake, but I enjoyed what I played of it.
I played like fifteen hours and had a really good time with it.
And I'll probably try to force my way through it so I can ready for
a rebirth because I'm excited for that game too. I bet it's gonna be
really fun. It's gonna be very fun. El Gruggs says, uh oh,
that's when we just said the ultra woolf says. Sarah Bond tweeted out
the three sixty logo back combat question mark I didn't see this tweet. Yeah,
I don't know, Like, I mean, there's already there's a lot
of back compat from Xbox three sixty already. I thought most of the concern
was like, oh, there were a lot of Xbox games that people would
have liked, but that I don't know. Maybe there's a bunch of Xbox
three sixty it's missing. I don't know. Do you think they could be
doing an Xbox three sixty mini that'd be funny. I don't think so.
I think if it doesn't make any sense, like because it'd be like games
would be so big. The thing that made Xbox three sixty cool was Xbox
Live. And you're not gonna build Xbox Live just for a mini console.
So yeah, yeah, And she's tweeted this on November twenty eighth. I
mean the Xbox three sixty had to come out in a November, right was
I don't know if it was around then or not. Oh yeah, that's
what I saw this speculation and mentions here. There could be a lot of
Activision Blizzard Xbox three sixty games, and probably a lot of Call of Duty
Xbox three sixty games that will get track that those could be shadow dropped two.
I can see that happening. But give me those Transformers games that they
made, then that's what I really Yeah, that's gonna take a lot more
work, but I hope they get around to doing that stuff. There are
a whole lot of I mean, all those Spider Man games, man,
I would love for all of those to be on game Pass. That'd be
cool too. There's a there's still a ton of three sixty games that'd be
cool. We'll see. That's it for the Superchets for now. Thank you
so much, everybody. Okay, we're gonna take another quick break when we
get back. Sean, do we have a game? Sorry, was working
on stuff? No, not not this week. Yeah, no worries.
So okay, we'll get back. We're gonna do Game of the Year two
thousand and eight. See you all in a second, and we're back and
we're talking about the best games of two thousand and eight. Mike. What
we do here is you and I try to figure out the five best games
of any particular year. This year, it's two thousand and eight in his
games released in the United States that year, so no games released internationally.
So if you have one of those, keep it to yourself. We'll get
some input here from our podcast producers in a second. Mike, you want
to kick us off though, well real quick, shit, you're going because
you weren't here for two thousand and seven. Shawn, and I did that.
I don't know if you want me to. I want to get your
reactions. Maybe you kind of should put it in your master doc also,
right, yeah, I'll do that. Let me get that going here.
I meant to bring that up anyhow. Yeah, I thought you guys were
pretty close. I mean, you were wrong, but you were close.
Well, we had so number one, we had Mario Galaxy, even even
though the tides are turning against that game, Jeff right, No, not
really. Two was called Judy four Modern Warfare. Three was BioShock, four
was Persona. Three, five was Portal. I mean, come on people
are mad about Halo three. I don't know what you were mad about.
I think remember I wasn't. I don't think I was mad about anything.
You guys, you were so mad and I was like, calm down,
yes, yes you're hurting me, and you just throw my list. But
I don't know if I can remember it off the top man only so I
could find it real quick. Crackdown on there as one of Oh that's yeah,
yeah, that's that's a good one. I think you also had this
because me and Mike got ship for putting Persona three on there and stuff of
Mass Effect. Oh yeah, we didn't put mass Efect one on there.
Well you know, yeah, we put the Bearer game out there instead,
so you know it happens, all right. Yeah, that's pretty close to
I think what my list was. Yeah. I like crack Down a lot,
so I'm not surprised I put it there. But I'm also not surprised
that you guys didn't. I mean, if I would have talked to that
with Mike, I'm sure it wouldn't have made the top five either. But
mass Effect I would have fought for that one. I like Mass time.
People were mad at me for not giving Halo three loves just because they didn't
play that much. Fit Wait till we get to Halo Reach, a game
I did play and I didn't really care. We'll see what they think about
that. It will see what they think about that. Halo three is just
but my gosh, I was playing Call of Duty that year. I'm sorry,
and that's just what happened, and iologize, but I don't actually apologize.
All right, I'll get the master doc here updated with that here in
a second. But let's start two thousand and eight. Mike, what do
you have in line for this year? All right? Well, okay,
we talked about Persona three, which, because of the longer localizition for three
and then the relatively fast localizition for four, Persona four was just this year
in the US, which is so funny to me to think that in the
US we got two Persona games back to back, and now it's like a
matter of like twelve years or whatever it is before you get a new one.
Persona four is my favorite entry in the series still. I think it
improves a lot of things. I think it's a more likable cast of characters.
I dig the suburban of vibes a bit more. I think even the
music is better. Still one of my all time favorite JRPGs. I do
think Golden improved things, obviously, but it's not as much that needed to
be improved as even Base Persona three a lot of stuff or did just work
pretty well out of the gate. Gosh, just like in this game is
right, this is just this is just straight up Persona four. Just straight
up Persona four. Okay, cool, it's straight up Persona four. Yep,
one of mine, one of my favorites. It is a even like
even though like this is such a jerofyg like jerrpg, it's like the one
I like want people to play and if that isn't necessarily their thing, because
I think it can really suck you in. There's a lot about this game
that's just very memorable, very special. It really late PlayStation two game,
which is like, cool, we're in two thousand and eight, this is
a PlayStation two game and it was one of the best games that year.
That's really neat. Yeah. I am like, I'm like looking at this
year and there's a lot of big games, but not many that like really
hit super hard for me. And I'm like trying to make sure all these
came out this year, but I'm I think I will go with Fallout three.
I like Fallout three a lot, and I'm pretty sure that was two
thousand and eight. Yeah, fallow three was kind of on the first Western
RPGs I really played. I had not done that much in that genre before,
and I got really sucked into follow three. I thought it was a
ton of fun, big world to explore, some interesting choices that you can
make, kind of getting you know, even making your character a lot of
fun. I haven't played a while. I don't know how it's aged.
I bet maybe in some ways not great. I don't care. That playing
that back in two thousand and eight was a very exciting time. Yeah.
I played this game to death and just had a great time. I love
the setting of the you know, the East coast around Washington, DC area
and discovering a lot of those great those monuments and seeing them in the game,
and it's like it's it is but as the visuals so it looks dingy,
but it fits with the Fallout in a lot of ways. And I
don't know, I found that environment to be very very fun to explore,
and yeah, it's a it's a memorable game with a lot of cool characters.
So yeah, follow three play is up there for me. Mirrors Edge
two thousand and eight. This is like in terms of like aging, I
think this game is actually just aged incredibly well. Every time I play this
game, I have such a good time. It's a really snappy, fast
placed game, fast paced game, not super long, but just a ton
of fun to play multiple times. It's still gorgeous, very stylized, just
making that first person movement a ton of fun. I love Mirror's Edge incredible
soundtrack. This is the game with the actual better still alive. I'm sorry,
Portal love Mirror's Edge one of my favorites. Yeah. I like this
game a lot too, and I after you played it with the updates on
Xbox, I went back to play it as well. It's like, oh,
it's really well done, and you're right, that helps it stand out
how much it's not aged. The design is just so strong. It's got
like indie game vibes in terms of like its scope. I think like a
game like this to come out today, it's an indie game, it would
just take over for a lot of people. I mean, there are a
lot of indie games, right, yeah, ghost Like this feels like ghost
Runner these days, and it's like, yeah, that's really a really cool
thing, man, And like ea setting that tone back then, this was
like under gen RICCARDI too, and it was like a lot of interesting games
they were trying. It didn't all hit. A lot of it didn't work
for them. But I'm glad they tried these things because I like this game
a lot too, love it a ton. I think it's made a big
impact on the industry. Yeah, I man, it's it's tough because I
like a lot of these games, but I don't know if I like hold
them in a super high regard anymore. But I'm gonna go with this one.
I don't know, I think you don't like this franchise too much.
I don't think you dislike it, but I think it's Left for Dead.
I played a lot of Left for Dead. Yeah, I like Left for
Dead one. I thought, yeah, you're right, I'm not quite as
excited about it as some people. But I'm not gonna disparage Left for Dead
or anything. I get it. And it was a It was at that
point when Valve was the best they ever were, the year before this was
the Orange Box coming off with like the half like two stuff Team Fortress two
and Portal, and then they also did this. It was incredible, yes,
and it is like one of those early games, those early cooperative multiplayer
games that you could play over and over and over again. And it took
a while for the rest of the industry to like get to that point,
but Valve kind of nailed it right away with this, and it's one of
those ones where it could be appointment gaming. Every week you sit down with
your friends, you've gotta play Left for Dead. And yeah, it was.
It's really excellent Braid. Yeah, I think I still think of I
don't know, maybe this is my perception. Braid was important for the idea
of nods in digital distribution, kind of helping each other become huge. I
think it was a big deal for two D games in general, two D
platforms anyways, having something of a comeback, right. There was just a
ton of buzz for this game, and it was really interesting. Right,
It's like one of those first like, oh, like it's a two D
game, but it's somewhat subversive and like the art style is not what you're
expecting. But it's familiar. The music's not what you're expecting, but it's
familiar, right, And just all the actual like time like rewind or whatever,
slowed down puzzles, they were all a lot of fun. I don't
know. I adore Braid. It left a big impact on me. I'm
still actually pretty excited for that remaster. I'm glad it finally got reannounced.
Yeah, I've tried it before. It just never clicked with me. I
don't love the way it looks personally, but it's not. I mean again,
it's not like a hate thing. It's just like, I look at
this, I don't feel much of an affinity for the way it looks.
But I'm gonna give it a shot. And I love the Witness And I
don't love Jonathan Blow, but like at least one of his games. Oh
yeah, a whole bunch. But I'll give Brad a chance. I'm aware
of like the twist of Braid and all that stuff too, and that makes
me more compelled, makes me want to play it more twist. I mean,
it was interesting. I think it gets a little overblown, Like that's
not why the game is good, right, there's a lot to it.
I like this game a lot. I wonder how far I'm gonna be able
to get up the list. Banjo KAZUOI nuts and Bolts like this game a
ton. Yes, it's really actually, it's probably the best three D platformer
on the three sixty. It's got that great building mechanic that the Zelda Here's
the Kingdom just straight up took the wholesale. It's a really cool and interesting
game, and it's one of those ones that also has actually aged pretty well
because of the all of the backward compatibility stuff in the FPS boost. It
looks great if you go back and play this now. Yeah, good luck,
come half fun, Space half Fun. I guess that Space one.
Jeff, this is the kind of the other EA like new franchise here.
Even then, I thought this game was a ton of fun. The first
thing I think of is the hud right, because that really did stand out
here. It was really cool. The atmosphere fantastic. It really did capture
those kind of alien like, you know, the space station creepiness. The
cutting off the limbs was a ton of fun. It was a very pretty
game. I was a big Dead Space fan. I know, I haven't
gotten to play the rema yet. I have to at some point. It's
our game club game. We're going to talk about it at the at some
point here at the end of December. But even the original I thought that
was a standout for that generation. Yeah, I was going to play that
remake and then my mouse and keyboard stopped working in the game, and I
just gave up. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna come back to this
game when this game is fixed. And maybe it's fixed now for me,
but I've not checked. I haven't played much Dead Space. I remember when
it first came out. I played, I booted up, and I was
pretty scared of it. So I had a hard time staying coward cowardly,
yes, exactly, nothing against it. Once again, this was like in
my big coward phase. But for some reason I was able to play all
deads. It's just really cool, I mean it is. Yeah, it's
really fun. It's really cool. I think that's right, exactly right.
Let me ask you about a couple of games real quick. How do you
feel about Grand Theft Auto four? Yeah, I was wondering about that.
Oh look, I've never a big Grand Theft Auto guy, and four is
weird to me because it seems to be in between, like that Original Placeation
two trilogy, which is groundbreaking, and then five, which is the biggest
game ever. Then in the middle here's Grand Theft Otto four, which was
a you know, sold a ton of copies. It was a big deal.
Yeah, there it is. I don't know, that's I'm not much.
I know a lot of people who like prefer Grand Theft Auto four,
but I wish to me it always seemed like that was a game they played
in a certain place in time, that sort of thing, And I mean
I get that, but that was not me. Middle Gear Solid for Guns
of the Patriots. How do you feel about that? Yeah, look,
I like that game. It's a very indulgent game. Right in some ways,
it's not even a good game. Uh, the bounce is off,
Like I get what they're going for it, Like the cuts into gameplay ratio
is actually kind of insane that it leadings that heavily towards cutting. It's a
shame because the gameplay in it is really good. It's a really neat evolution
of some of Metal Gear Solid three's better mechanics. You just don't actually get
to do that much of that stuff. And you know, the game is
kind of bogged down a bit of having to tie all these loose sins together
from those games, and it like does manage to do it somehow, and
that is impressive and it has some really satisfying moments in the story there.
See. I like it. It's a good game, but it's a little
messy for me to consider like one of the best. And then Gears of
War two. Yeah, look, I don't know, and iver I think
of Gears of War, I think about the first one and then the other
ones. But yeah, they made sequels and they were bigger for sure,
and maybe better in some ways, but they just never left an impact on
me like that first one did. I'm I'm like realizing what happened to me
this year when and like why I missed so many of these games. I
mean I played a ton of Call of Duty World War and I was playing
a ton of Call of Duty four Modern War Warfare. That's the biggest thing.
But the game I was most anticipating was Spore. That was the thing
that I could not wait for. That was this year. Boy. I
was just I bought hook Line and Sinker all of those promises and was just
like, this is going to be the forever game. I was so ready.
I wrote, like some blogs on one up about how it's like going
to be mind blowing, and I was crying just thinking about the pitch of
the game, and then I played it. It's okay, It's just it's
fine. It's reality sets in real fast with sports to real factually do in
two thousand and eight. Huh yep, absolutely so. Yeah four not going
to be in the top five. I always wish it was better. I
don't know. Some other ones came out later, and I think I had
more gamey ass game stuff, and then I never even really gave those a
try. The game that I most regret not playing on this list is far
Cry Too, which has a lot of like proto breadth of the wild kind
of stuff in it that I'm like, I wish I would experience that.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't have a ton of other stuff
we ad for this year. There's some things like Rock Band two. I'd
be okay with the mean yeah, episently, Yeah, it was very good.
We're not gonna say anything for two Human no too Human Love. Yeah,
I was gonna I was gonna bring up Too Human as well. Honestly,
you know what the game I would put up there because I really enjoyed
it when it came out. Mega Man nine. Oh, I've meant to
bring up Mega Man nine. Mega Man nine rules. Mega Man nine.
That's a really really fun game. It was kind of one of the uh,
at least in mimory, one of the first retro throwbacks, right or
the whole point is like we're just gonna make another one, like it wasn't
any s game again. Actually we get that all the time now. We
actually we actually got by the Commando Rearmed that year as well. Yes,
very pertician. Yeah, it was good. Mega Man nine, Megmat nine
is just one of the best Mega Man games. It was even like I
was even surprised out there, like we're gonna go back to like Mega Man
two. Not only are we not going to have the like the Megabuster charging,
we're not gonna even have the slide. That's how devoted we are to
being specifically like that Mega Man and that was Mega Man. It was cool
to like pulled themselves back like that. They made a really fun game around
this limited tool set. It's awesome. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that
up. One other kind of like indie game here Castle Crashers. I liked
Castles a lot, man, I actually I would like to replay that game.
Yeah, it was a super fun game. This is that time where
beat them up. We're having a rough go of it, so it's exciting
to have a fun beat them up again. I played a ton of Castles,
really fun four player game. Also, it was good stuff. Hey,
look, Fable two is the best Fable still, probably not enough to
be in the top five, but if you had to make me play a
Fable game, I would like for it to be Fable too. I suppose
Mike, I got a bunch of input from the podcast producers. You want
me to start reading some of them, or you know what, World of
Goo. I like that game. That's one that I'm like, I played
it so many times in so many places. Then it's like it's effect on
me faded over time. Sure, it's kind I never ain affinity for a
World of Few. I remember listening into Exploding Barrel back at this time and
uh, and you being like, yeah, but we're talking about real games
when we were talking about Yeah, but I liked Braid, like I think
Braids started to change that but it was like until that point, it was
like maybe even with Braid, it might have been like, well, yeah,
but that can't be game of the year, like that sort of thing.
Uh, because it was a thing. I'm pretty sure I said far
kright or follow three is my game of the year back then? Yeah?
Absolutely, yeah, I can imagine myself being a shitter like that. Oh
my god, we're really starting with this from Jack Jack Binks. Not everyone's
favorite Smash, but I loved my time with it, especially the cut scenes
in the Subspace Emissary, Super Smash Brothers Brawl. Yeah. Look, Smashburg's
is so good. Smashbura's melee was so good that even if you go in
and deliberately make it worse, it's still pretty good. But I am still
going to resent you for what you did. Uh. Craners mcbasketball says World
of Warcraft Wrath of the lich King. I thought about this because it's an
expansion. It is World Warcrest's best expansion probably. It was very cool.
It was a ton of fun. I don't know if I'm really gonna play
on the top five just expansion. It's always a little weird, Like I
have somebody who like, you know, would not want to make a Phantom
Liberty Game of the Year, even though most people seem to be fine with
that. Was like nor Yeah, conveniently also don't like cyberpunk at all.
Yeah, so that game's fucking boring, right, but that's fine whatever.
Rahos very very good. Boulder the Bouldergate Wolf five says two thousand and eight
is my year. If there are three franchises I'm unfairly by unfairly biased toward.
It's Grand Theft, Auto, Metal Gear and Super Smash Brothers. Two
thousand and eight gave me all three of my babies. Just let one of
the men, guys, please, these are some of the best games ever
made. So Grand theftought Stresh Brothers for All and Metal Gear Solid four they
aren't maybe maybe GTA four and I'll just be like, that's not my thing.
I like Smash Brothers and Metal Gear Solid. No, they aren't good.
I'm sorry disappoint you. You'll get nothing and you'll like it. Oh
my god, what is what? Everybody? It's the children, Mike,
it's the children. Who are the children? I get it. It was
your first Smash Brothers. Man Bench jac says I don't get the Brawl hate.
It may be because it's the Smash game I grew up on, but
I always had a blast when I'm playing this with friends. Also, subspace
is incredible. Yeah, Subspace is cool. I goes, sure, Hey,
Jeff, you see what's happening on The guy who doesn't like items and
Smash is all hating on Brawl. Weird how that works? Yeah, because
that's the character's slower and float here and by the way, introduced a mechanic
where characters randomly fall down. Yes, but you're looking at a skill.
You're just hardening in on the negatives. Look at the greater, big negative.
It's a pretty big negative. Please continue before I die. I'm like
trying to, like, I'm trying to think of a way that we can
make Mike play Super Smash for the Brawl like NonStop for a month on Giant
Bomb. I'll come up with something. It would feel so bad, a
piece of shit. Bop Uh says I'll be I'll be the first to dominate
a good game. I guess it. Finally was able to succe Fable one
promised He's not wrong. Fable two actually better than any games. Okay,
maybe not better than Be Your sod for but all while improving gameplay, the
world environments, and giving it even more freedom and choice. Also easily the
best dog mechanics in a game outside of the Ten Dogs. Oh yeah,
Fable two is actually fun. Fable two was actually a good game. Then
they ruined it with Fable three and then really went off the rails. Jackie
g says it's incredibly unbalanced and far from my favorite. But Mario Kartwee is
a chaotic blast. It's the most Mario party like game in the series,
and for that alone, there's a lot, a lot of fun to be
had. Mary kurt Wee was was actually a very good That was a good
Mario Kart. Jeff Jeff never played that much of this, and you know
me, I'm not necessarily any Vegas Mario Kart player anyway, so casual with
one that I am going to put on the list written. I love,
love, love this game. It's really good. On the DS they did,
they had a lot of it is like tapping the screen, but they
had this really good flick mechanic where you tap and then flick and that's like
like a two part rhythm, and that feels so good. Don't get too
excited. This game came out in the US in two thousand and nine.
All right, there we go. Fantastic. Good to know, Remember next,
Remember next, next time. Alex is hell of a year in gaming
for me. Solid Lego titles about Valkyria Chronicles Fallout three, but unfortunately I'm
a weeb. Soudo Ultimate Ney Rudo Nerudo Ultimate Ninja Storm was amazing at the
time and was received so well by fans that anime games were cursed to be
this style fighter for years to come. Let's overuse now this fighter time.
This first time with there was great and the story was recreated very well.
Yeah. I do remember people talking about this fondly and I'm like, what,
it's just one of those three D Arena brawlers, But apparently this is
the reason they're all three D Arena brawlers. Well, I'm convinced it's better
than Smash Brother's Brawl. It was the first one to look like like the
anime actually like the oh, it's like this is yeah, it's just incredible.
Yeah, this also, it was great. I just remembered a game
I meant to bring up. I'm gonna be curious to see if anybody in
the disport brings it up, you'll get a gold star if you do.
Now, mister Bowler says, maybe not among the best year of gaming,
but two thousand and eight still has some heavy hitters. For me, the
best game of two thousand and eight is Fallout three, although I also really
enjoyed Grand Theft Auto four at the time. You know, we maybe are
being a little dismissive of Grand Theft Auto four, Like I get a lot
of people do, like any you know, in a lot of ways,
Grand Theft Auto four is the most Grand Theft Auto game right, Like I
do think of Liberty City first and foremost. It's a pretty pure gryd the
Oft Auto experience. And I do get and appreciate all that I did in
UH. In our slack today on John Bomb, I did write Grand JEFFT
Auto UH, and I'm like, mostly did that because I was thinking I
should go back and place San Andreas. But I wouldn't mind replaying four as
well, So I don't know, I do want to go back and like
see these games again so I can really like place them because great up thought
A four just like existed so much of that time and then I moved on
and left it hard in the past and didn't think about it much. What
what weird like sexy girl on a GTA covered Do you think about more the
son andreas? Uh, bikini girl, this girl licking that sucker on four
or like the uh the girl bending down showing her cleavage and uh in five
or diet I think about the sucker. I think about sucker Girl. Yeah,
you think about Sucker Girl a lot. Okay, yes I do that.
It's beef Hammer. Of course I'm being cotrolled by him. Alright,
go ahead read beef Hammers without a doubt, the best game in the series.
And yes, this comes from a two time CHAMPI camera, all right,
let me explain why the rest are worse. Smash sixty four good but
was improved upon Melee, I suck at it. Smash four it's on the
WIU and Ultimate includes Sora from Kingdom Hearts. This is a really good points.
Beef As are all terrible place and this is why Super Smash Brothers Brawl
is the best game of two thousand and eight. Apparently, flobotronsis two thousand
and eight fresh out of high school. Fuck you and the last games convention
in Leipzig, where I scored an internship at EA to make my dream come
true and work in the industry. Trademark didn't stay in the industry beyond that,
but I got a free copy of Battlefield Bad Company, and that game
was pretty dope, maybe the last time Dice made a fun Battlefield campaign,
and the destruction engine was also super fun and multiplayer. Yeah, I played
this game, and I thought about putting it on the list, but I
didn't play enough of it and don't love it the way a lot of people
do. I It's just one of the ones I'd missed for some reason,
which is because, Yeah, people talk about how much I love that company.
I always want to go back to it someday, but fortunately I don't
have anything to say about it. Joy two Zy World for Zelda. They
come says I'm a big van of dead Space, but it might be just
because I'm a sucker for the diegetic interface, which we definitely already talked about.
Also, shooting the limbs off of monsters was pretty novel at the time.
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I guess shooting them off.
I was gonna say you could shot limbs and resume four to affect them,
but you could shoot limbs in like Goldene and they would react, but I
don't know if they had gameplay Impotentially, this was like such a big part
of it, and it felt so satisfaying just the way that one gun worked,
whereas like horizontal prime vertical line it felt fantastic. Yep. Doctor Ryan
says, I don't know if you count expansions, but Wrath of the lich
King is in two thousand and eight and was and still will be the greatest
expansion to any game MMO or not to ever be made. Barring that,
I would vote for Fallout three. Sledge reinholds this. Two thousand and eight
was when I left home for college, and I didn't bring a TV or
console with me, so I missed most of the games from that year.
I didn't play the original Dead Space until earlier this year, before the release
of the remake, but I was honestly shocked at hell well it held up
for a fourteen year old game. The art direction in atmosphere are still incredible
in the diegetic UI hasn't really been done as well anywhere else. It's my
two thousand and eight game of twenty twenty three. Look at all of our
supporters with their big fancy college where it's diagetic. Also shout out to Mer's
Edge for still being one of the best feeling games ever made. It's got
the juice. It's got so much juice. Yes, tons of jews.
I mean EA had. It's incredible how EA was making very juicy games at
this time. I think they went sharply downhill almost immediately after this, but
it is a pretty good year for you. It's just when they acquired PopCap
as well, so they got one of the juicies games from them in pegoles.
So yeah, right, going for it. Razzal Jazzled Subspace is still
my favorite gameplay slash mode in any smash game, just beating out Melee's adventure
Mode. I also love the mini game where you shoot coins and trophies and
the stage creator that said there's already enough love for Brawl in this thread.
Yes much, there's too much love. So I'd like to give a shout
out to we Wear Classic World of Goo and Incredible, an incredibly creative little
indie puzzle game. Yeah it is. Well. Also this year, I
think I take Boom Blocks over World of Good. Well, I went to
different. Yeah, but Boom Boom blocks is really fun. How the Grinch
stole spoon. Heaven says if you shake it more than twice, you're playing
with it, and that's a reference to Warrior Land shake it as well as
penises. It's also a reference to penises. I really regret not playing this
game back in the beginning. I remember it was like I think, just
like with Warrio World, it got like media reviews, probably because it wasn't
very long, but who knows. But you look at this game now,
this is the best a two D game from Nintendo's maybe ever looked. It's
the one time where they just like, yeah, we'll just like use animation
cells right, like like what like a lot of indies do for stuff like
those Monster Boy games or whatever. So this game still looks fantastic. This
would be a great game to get, kind of a HD five that would
look fantastic. Yeah, that'd be really cool. Real quick, we got
a relevant super chat from Bench if you want to read it, and from
Ninton Derek. This is Bench. I'm giving you money so I can yell
the brawl hate is insane. Also, I was four, Yeah, I
trust me. I've pieced it together. I know why you all like brawls,
but Derek says Super Smash Bears Brawl should be on the list. It
had the best single player campaign of any fighting game until Street Fighters came out
this year. Yeah. I think every Mortal, every all those newer Mortal
Kombats had better single player campaigns. It's not even remote you get. You
shut the fuck up this podcast. Where are you talking about, Mike?
You were there. They suck. I'm gonna play subscription, sir. You
don't like the little caps They're fun, No, they're you can Actually I
played through all of it just now, and I'll say the only good one
is Mortal Kombat one. Yes, thank you. The stories of movies,
yeah, they're bad. They're bad movies until Mortal Kamba one, which is
a fight. You're dismissing all the single players and Brawl, which is where
all the casuals come in and they love the game for you can't care about
the capsules, can put it on their list, of course. I've never
played Subspace Emissary. I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna come back and I'm
gonna be such a lover of this game, and I'm gonna annoy Mike about
it. I can't wait. Uh, it's a fun mode. It's like
it's it's the fun mode. You play for two hours and you're done with
it, and then you have to play Brawl for the rest of your life.
Have fun, I guess, screaming mad and says Madden. NFL O
nine introduced Virtual Training, which put the player in training session on a tron
football field. Mad also gave the world hologram John Madden, Mike, Hologram,
John Madden. I'll say it again, Hologram John Madden. If that's
not enough for a Madden Top five spot, then I'll say Melgar solid for
deserves some recognition. It was the reason my family got Yes three. All
right, wait a second, Jeff, I mean you do have to play
Subspace Emissary because Grubspace Emissary is right. Okay, there we go. All
right, I'll do it. Christ, Thank you, Divorce Cougar Holy Shaw.
Did we not say that? Hosp says shoutouts to fall Out three.
The game I completed, felt nothing, replayed two years later and totally fell
for the Beesta Magic. There's something quite like fast traveling to a place and
then just just wandering into the unknown, into the It'd be real nice if
Starfield had any of that, that would be ideal. But hey, I'll
just go back to sky Room. Always be clothing. Slash Corky says,
uh, Persona four that every persons great and your June ness. Yeah,
Persona four is such a charming game. It's such a good there are there
are vibes in Persona for man, I love it. Uh low Rull says,
middle Gear Solid four Guns of the Patriots is my favorite movie of that
year. Fair, Here's what I'll say about Guns of the Patriots. Like,
I played through that game in like one sitting. I did not sleep
right, Like I got that thing home, and except for like the long
load times between discs, like I really could not stop playing it because I
was so invested in metal Gear saw it and it did do a really good
job of like actually answering questions, having some fun surprises, and being fun
when you played it. I did like your Solid for I just see the
problems with it. Also, Velocity Prime one says, majority of my picks
are already taken, but let's highlight when a master of one medium transfers their
skills to another. That's right. The father of modern blockbuster, Steven Spielberg,
graced us all with the delightful puzzle game Boom Blocks. Yeah. I
like this game of time. That's like one of those ones where it's like
they combined emotion and physics in a way that's like, oh my god,
this is what games can be. And now this is like a little bit
taken for granted, because but this is the whole basis of what like VR
is. But Boom Blocks doing it originally was pretty impressive. Yeah, we
played a little bit of this. That dance during the charity treatment was still
fun. That's great. Yeah, Team money og says, my vote is
for rock Band two. So many hours spent playing this game with friends.
I'm not sure why, but to me, this is the peak of the
series and music games as a whole. Uh Yeah, I like brought rock
Band to a lot of Villain Max's ton of it. Yeah, I just
couldn't stop playing it. Villain Max's followed three was the game that made me
fall in love with bees. The games, Rare Monkey says, here I
did the hard part for you. They are even in order. And then
there's the shore from Mike Sure Mike Emoji also, I know that the only
two that have a chance on your list are persona and Panjo. We'll see
how banjo. Everybody fark right to Persona four banjo Kazuo, nuts and bolts
fable to in Prince of Persia two thousand and eight, that's another one.
Don't you like that? Prince of Persia two thousand No, No, I'm
the one who's baffled at it suddenly, oh right, right, right recently
the other Yeah, it's not everyone's like that. It was actually pretty good.
I that was one of the most I played that game and felt nothing
and remember nothing kind of games. Honestly, you like it though? Yeah,
yeah, shout out to you. Let's see. Adam g c says
they started college in two thousand and eight, so it started their period where
they didn't play a lot of games. See yall in a couple of years.
Super Harman mentioned Spraid one day, Adam a doctor. I played a
lot of games in college, but I was an English major. There was
it wasn't that right, that's right, and you already knew English, so
that was kind of cheating. Yeah, that was kind of cheating. That's
what I played, like every final Fantasy was when I was in I had
plenty of free time. Yeah. They say English is the hardest language to
learn. Yeah, it's weird that For me, it's the easiest. So
that is an incredible best jock. Yeah. Super Harman mentioned Spraid, Wong
Gifts has Fable two person and of four Left for Dead. Also mentions that
two thousand and eight remake of Prince of Persia. I love the Prince Persias
Hands of Time and I never really played this one. I should go try
it. Tokyo Game Life says Super Smash Brothers Brawl. It literally can't get
any bigger than this laughter. You know, it is funny because like at
the time this roster was gigantic and now I'm looking at it and because of
ultimately, because that looks it's like a fraction of ultimates. Yes right.
Doctor Lynch says this is the only far from my favorite year in gaming.
But I think the game the game of the year is a cross between Fallout
three and Middle Gear Solid four. Will we ever get an easier chance to
play middle Gear Solid for without having to whip out the unbearably slow PlayStation three
again? Yeah, Yes, they're gonna figure that out. They're gonna tell
you that game again. Karaokee Blue says Devil May Cry four. Do you
like this? We talked about this yet it okay? It plays really well.
I know some people were thrown off because, like you play through the
game and then you basically like retrace your steps again. It doesn't seem to
get as much of love as as three does, right or even five more
recently, but it's it's a good game for sure. JD. Camp says
how many games have helped professional athletes like we Fit, and he linked to
a story where we Fit helped an MLB pitcher lose weight. We fit really
this year? Yeah it was I'm not that Sasquatch Crossing says a command of
conquer red Alert three for giving us this and also, let me just unmute
this this real quick. Here we go. Yeah, I'm escaping to the
one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism. Sparks, Oh, it's so
good man, and forget how good it is every time, and it just
delivers. He's just like, I can't believe I'm about to say this,
and then he says it and it's great. Height Like I'm usually like I
didn't know people liked to Commandic Concker that much. I did play Regular three.
It's the only Comandic Cocker game I really played much of, and it
was really good fun. They're good games. They did that remaster one of
those Commanded Conquer games recently, right, and people really were happy with it.
I thought, So, I can't remember now, I don't know,
he said, like, I'm just not very tuned into the Command and Conquer
world. Michael Riley's Middle Gear Solid four my first game in the series.
So boy was I confu By the way, their emoji here, their icon
is solid Snake. I've now played most of the games, and I'm even
more confused than before. Still my favorite series, so Medogar South War will
always hold a special place in my heart. Sorry, I just got a
super chatted from shakirovia Modu says, don't forget we music. Oh we we
we won't, shigy we won't. Definitely not. Don't worry buddy. Well
okay, wait is this this is? This is this is two thousand and
eight. Okay, hang on, Jamie h Christmas Eve says it probably won't
make top five, but No More Heroes was a highlight for me. Sure,
the open world was sparse but had great characters, fun hack and slash
combat, and you had to jerk off the we remote to charge up your
energy sore? What what's not the laser? H Yeah? I think I
cut you off when But Big Tony's was mak him in nine Oh yeah yeah
maybe yes, Big Tony mentioned making a nine Tony Tommy pencil says dead Space
is so good that its remake came out in twenty twenty three. Imagine having
a character design as good as Dead Space, and then for the cover you
have a severed hand. Yeah, that's that's weird. You're right, although
it didn't seem to hurt that game, that game did fine. Lenny Cool
Dick Denver says, I think one of these four games is a chance of
making that list. I really like them, and it's four different colors from
Middle Gear Solid four. Funny because the worst looking one is the one that
we actually got at least the normal one. It was just like a picture
of Snake's rendered face. Yeah, all these other ones are fantastic. Adam
Juice says, got in here too late this time. I just want to
say that Brawl is good. Maybe was my first fighting game I ever went
to a tournament four, so it's got a special place in my heart.
Vision forty nine mentions Saints Row two Fable two Castle Crashers, but also mentions
Bad Company as their big one. There the daism a Man two says the
world is not enough or the is that what this one is? The world
ends with you? The world ends with you? Yes, try yes,
which I did forget about. This is a very good game. Actually,
this is actually one of my favorite d S games. I think I have
no chance of like convincing you on it. It would be five. Maybe.
I actually have a couple other DS games that I'm like want to double
check to make sure they came out this year. I'll see if anyone else
mentions them. Actually maybe it's just one other one, but we'll see,
right, Because I have some other games that I don't know Jess super high
on that I'm probably gonna go to bet for more. It's funny through no
photo of its own. I don't like Lorenzo with You as much as I
used to because I really did not like World Ends with You Neo or whatever
it was called. That sequel did nothing for me whatsoever. Uh Okay,
let's see here. Klaus Raynor says metal Gear Solid for ham a lot more
love from metal Gear Solid four than I was expecting. Yeah, I mean,
I think a big part of that is like, if you had a
PlayStation three in two thousand and eight, what the fuck else were you going
to play? I guess. I mean that's not to diminish the game.
It's that a lot of people played Metal Gear Solid for and a lot of
people really like metal Gear Solid I guess, yeah, but you know,
I know, to be it's just like, yeah, I like Mulgar Solid
for. Still definitely like one of the weaker ones, if not the weakest
one, But I still really like it, all right. The Hamlet of
Texas says Left for Dead. I put hundreds of hours into this one.
I always enjoyed playing the Survivors Versus Zombies mode, where you had two teams
of four trying to outsmart each other and you got to play as the special
infected zombies. Yeah. I want I want to do some more gaming like
that. Doominal Crossing says Call of Duty World at War. I like this
game, but I'm not gonna try to get in the top. But Doominal
has an Edit says, apparently Merror's Edge came out this year too, and
that's my top five all time, so never mind, that is easily my
pick. Goods. Right job, dou mental good job, freshly stream game
says. Gears of War two love Slicked Stick says, if you don't like
Ben ten Alli Enforce for the Weed, then you're a bitch there. Then
he says that game is terrible. B Traven the really hyped release this year.
Really hype releases this year like Fallout three, Dead Space, GT four
Brawl cod all felt like they under delivered slightly to me. So I'm going
with the game that absolutely over delivered Banjo KAZOOI Notts and Bolts. Yeah,
I agree with you, Travan. Glad that just come around at least because
for a while, like the if, like if you had asked me what
the pulse in that game is, it's a people think that's a bad game,
yes, which is probably never fair, right, do never know it's
wrong? It's good. It's a really good game. Uh. Willow Davis
super Smash Brothers Brawl. But without mentioning anything negative, great game, uh
huh uh. Klink says, oh look, it's the game that has the
best song name still alive featured in a video game, Mirror's Edge, freaking.
That's just so good, good game. I could play it, right,
I could just play through all of it right now and have an amazing
time. Okay, somebody's finally Uh no, you're on the right track.
You're trying to do some Japanese stuff. Good try Sewan, go ahead,
Jeff so Yeah, Sherbo Shawan says gold Star bikey because Mike says he's got
one that no one's mentioned so far, and Sean Sean guest Lost Odyssey,
Valkyria Chronicles, Soul Caliber for and Sonic Unleashed. All right, chat,
who in June? Chat can guess the uh the JRPG that I actually am
thinking of. It's a you'll get it, You'll get a gold Star.
Yes, dragon Quest came out or something? Right, Uh, there's not
dragon Quest. What did you say? Uh? Christian Fate. I don't
know where that came out when that came out? Not Residents of Fate,
nor fire Envelow, Dragon Sword. It is Enemy House. Well, let's
see enemy Mouse just said tales. But then Nick G says Vesper Yes,
and probably the best entry in that series. I love Tales of This Barrier.
That is a super fun, super fun. I don't know if I
can get Jeff to give this, but Jeff I insists you write it down.
I like Tales of Yeah, I already did, no problem, it's
there and everyone can see it. In fact, you know what, I
think we should put Grand Theft Auto on the shortlist. She should probably put
in the short list. You're right by that. I mean Grand Theft Auto,
China, Tom Warris, get everybody that you know. I think so
double check. I think it might be might I think you're just completely you're
two thousand and nine. Give fuck gro I fuck, okay, well shit
Google Google, Hey that's Google. That's not on me. That's Google.
Yeah, all right, I mean a double show. It was Ghost Trick
two thousand and eight. It was not that's a twenty ten. What is
wrong with Google? Soap? Don't I just go Wikipedia? It's got a
Wikipedia that Google does not know. There's too many games on Wikipedia. Well,
like the version for this came out then or something like for phones and
then we'll post that. So I don't do that. Yeah, yeah they
do. They also have elead Beat agents here and that's just that we did
that last time. Okay. Well, in that case, here's what we
have so far. Audio listeners Persona for Fallout three, Mirrors Edge Left for
Dead Braid, Banjo Kazoo, Nuts and Bolts, Dead Space, Mega Man
nine, Castle Crashers, Rhythm having tales of Vespiria and Grand Theft Auto.
All right, well, Jeff, fare is only fair. Look, it
was actually the most brought up game, and the thing was Super Smash pros
Brawl. I think you should put it on there so we can consider it.
All right, Super Brothers, all right, I consider to get the
fuck out of there. That game is a garbage and it's an insult.
Uh. Yeah, listen. I don't know why people ever thought that's a
chance on a Mike Minatti, but hey, do what you gotta do.
Uh, okay, Mi, I listen. I don't feel too strongly about
any of these games. I'm gonna hoest I like Fallout three. Uh,
and I honestly, if I could maybe sneak okay Rhythm, heave it,
I like a lot. I would try to get that in the top five.
Uh. And then the one I would sneak on there if possible,
would be banjo KAZOUI. But I'm not gonna really think that that's possible.
But let's let's see. I don't know, what do you think you should
go up? Yeah, because there are I'm surprised. There are quite a
few games I do feel strongly about. Actually, I do like Fall three
a lot, and it was my game of year at the time. I
think that's definitely on the list. Fall three is definitely on. Yes,
Actually I agree. I like Fall three a lot, And then I would
honestly probably gosh, there's a lot of games here, like geez I.
Then I wouldn't feel next most strongly about meror Sedge. Actually I freaking love
I like mers Edge a lot too. Well, okay, let me ask,
what where's Persona four go? So I before goes on there, Uh,
it doesn't have to go necessarily like number one for now? Yeah,
how do we I have a question? How do we feel about Persona four
golden because it's better? But yeah, well we did that last in Persona
three, and that, like Persona three, got improved much more than base
Persona four did. I'll also say this isn't how we do things around here,
but I did look ahead a little bit to twenty twelve. I'm not
sure Golden quite makes the cuts. If you want to give some flowers to
PERSONA four, it might be here twenty good years. Tell it wasn't.
It's not great, but I think there's just enough that you got, I
mean, squeeze it out well because it'll be at that point a remester anyways.
And then man like Jeff, there's like a ton of games here,
so really like a lot at this point, like a Brave even a dead
Space Mega Man nine, uh Vesparrea. But I mean, look, here's
the problem, Jeff, like, yeah, like like the ones you want
to push, I think, or like the two I care about the least.
Probably that's where we are on this line. Well, here's the other
one that I like a lot is Mega Man nine. So if you want
to move that up, I'll get behind it, and then I would just
be happy to sneak rhythm heaven in. But and it's what your fucking list.
Yeah, okay, yeah, listen, that doesn't work for you,
a brother, Look, I mean I like you. Okay, let's put
do it. Let's wa wa well okay, put those two up there,
let's see it all right, all right, all right, I am asking
this as a serious question. To be clear, it doesn't matter what I
think you obviously, I'm kind of dominating this little bit you get with you.
And then again I'm okay with that other I said, I don't feel
strongly about any of these games by insane for wondering for a thinking rhythm.
Heaven's a little bit of a weird pick. I like whetherman having fine.
I don't know. For me, it was like such a standout game that
year. Wait a second, did you beef it again? Did you beef
it again? Oh? Is that not a two thousand day? Is that
two thousand and nine? We already talk about that. Oh that's right.
Yeah, I told you this came out. That's right. I told you
it came out, and yes, that's right. I wrote it down thinking,
okay, yes, so you're saved. There you go, okay,
thank you, Chet, I'm saved. Well in that case, I want
to get Banjo KAZOOI up there if possible. But that's yeah, I'll tell
you what else. Maybe Now I feel okay, I'm a jackass because I
have dolbade this list. But there's also a part of me, Jeff,
it's just like you want Benja Kazuli Nuts and Boats on there before Braid or
Dead Space or Left four Dead or grafted up. I I'd rather you put
Smash Brothers Brawl on there. That I get it. You don't like it,
But what does that have to do with me liking it a lot?
Like the boats awesome. I can't convince you you're wrong. You can fix
me, Mike, Yeah, you can do it. No, you're just
you're wrong about bands in BOLTI tearing it around the popular consistent at the time,
which was wrong. To be clear, I played it. I kind
of agreed with that negatives. I thought it was lame. I didn't like
that direction for it. I thought, yeah, right, But it's like
I get like you're expecting one thing and they're changing things up and be like,
oh, this is a weird direction for it in a in a vacuum
when you don't taken on its own terms. Though it's a really well made
three D platform with a lot of cool ideas. I feel, Okay,
look, look, I gotta give it for you, I gotta give with
you. But uh, this is toxic of me because again this is completely
unfair. I got a lot of my ship on here. Listen, you
want to move Man nine down and put something else up, that's fine.
You could have four games, Mike, you got four games you want.
I understand. I'm being a piece of ship. I get it. I
can't help myself. It just I'm seeing a lot of important seminole gage being
left off this list for a game called nuts and Bolts or game with the
word nuts in the title. Wow love nuts here. I'm gonna pass it
the way. You're just gonna feel bad if you go ahead. Listen,
I I think I want Braid on there instead of megam in nine. Okay,
fair enough, God damn it. There we go, and then you
can go bet a fucking can you can put Mars's Edge at one? Yeah,
totally, yeah, I don't get I'll give ship whatever you want to
do man, whatever make you feel better, and then follow off three at
two. Yeah, and then and then persona four at three or four uh
a three please? Okay? Yeah, okay, you know what, go
ahead, put nuts and Bolts above Braid. Okay, yeah, I'll take
it. Hell yeah, we did it. Everybody by the Jeff Jeff We've
got We've had some unpopular lists quick in general, that's both of our faults
this time. Because people are gonna have some thoughts on this one. I'm
kind of excited for it. I think you're gonna be surprised by just the
amount of love you're gonna get from being brave enough to put Banjo Kazuoi on
your list. Mike, I'm probably gonna be screamed at for brawl, which
I just I can't. I don't understand where the turnaround for that happened.
I know what it is because all these children I'm care got on social media
accounts. Yeah, all right, Mike, read this Top five everybody trying
not to laugh. We're not laughing. I failed. Number one is Beer's
Edge. Number two is fallout. Three, number three is persona. Four,
Number four is a Banjo Kazuoi, nuts and bolts, and five is
braid. People aren't happy for braid, to be fair, but eh,
you know, I get it. You were too young for it at the
time. I get it. Cut. Maybe they added tripping and braid.
Maybe they added a mode where you Sonic the Hedgehog showed up, you'd all
be happier about it. I don't know. I'm being a man. I
am I'm being a little shit today. I kind of love it. I'm
in my little ship. No, no, this is this is good.
This is a good way to be. I think, all right, why
is this not so? Your tweets loading again? Do you? But do
you remember last time? It was because he had some kind of weird ex
browser extension that was slowing everything down. Yeah, but then I understood that
and I thought it fixed it, and then it did it on a completely
unrelated browser that has no extensions. So much. Well, I don't want
I don't even know anymore. It's a bad It's a bad website, is
what it is. I I only message you this because I was a coward
to tweet it. But I thought, I think that's really weird that I
had to. I wanted to get a Dragon's Dogma two screenshots. I wanted
to go to the Dragon's Dogma website. I had to put in my birthday
and I don't have to do that for like porn Hub anymore. So you
do have to do well, you have to do that because that's like complying
with like the ESRB rules and stuff. We had. Okay, so we
had like pretend that years are ESRB is reel. Yes, yes, that
the whole point is to pretend it's real so that the government doesn't step in
like that. That's the whole idea. Yeah, all right, I tweeted
it. I can't wait to see the responses one more time. Everybody Meror's
Edge Fallout three person of four, Benjo KAZOOI, Nuts Said, Bolts,
and Braid. It's two thousand and eight, and that's the definitive best games
of that year. If you play those five, you're gonna have played the
best, the five best games of two thousand and eight. All right,
let's take another quick break and we'll come back and talk about some games.
Everybody see in a moment, and we're back and we're talking about video games.
Mike, all I've been play is Benju KAZUOI, Nuts and Bolts.
I bet you have. You've lost a few Nuts and Bolts game of that
game rules. Okay. So I started today really playing a Steam World Build,
which is the game that's going to be out tomorrow and it's gonna be
in Game Pass and it rules. It's a lot of fun. It's one
of those one more turned city builder games. Obviously, it's it's really dialed
in to make you lose a lot of time very quickly. But it also
isn't It doesn't feel like it's going to go on and on and on.
It feels like these campaigns are relatively tight where you can get through one of
them in like, you know, ten to twelve hours, which I appreciate,
and I'm about halfway through that right now. And the cool thing about
it is that they give you multiple things to manage. So you have your
like ground floor where you're building the city and your people live up there,
and all of these things that feed into one another. So you have to
build housing for your workers, and then you need to give them the things
they need, and if they're happy enough, then you need to upgrade some
of their homes to be engineers. And then if they're happy, they'll upgrade
into aristocrats, aristocrats aristocrats, and if they're happy, and then you can
upgrade them into scientists. And so it's like it kind of sounds liken Onoh
yeah, I think similar. I bet they're taking a lot from like a
lot of the games in this genre. Doesn't feel like they're trying to do
anything too new, But what seems like they're trying to do is bring that
steam World really refined loop to the to the genre, and that that feels
like they really accomplished that. So that's happening on the top level, and
everybody has these needs and everything. As you go up that tier list,
everything requires multiple things inputting into like warehouses, and then those warehouses send out
the goods out to manufacturing plants to make moonshine or whatever, and that's super
satisfying. But then you also can unlock the mind shaft and you go underground,
and now you're doing like a little bit more of an exploration game underground
as you have these have your characters dig out the dirt and you need to
be putting out pylons to keep the cave from falling in on you, and
you need to improve your tools by building new machines to make improved tools so
you can dig out more powerful rocks and stuff like that. It's it's one
of those games and that's satisfying. And then on top of that, there
is like a little bit of a tower defensy sort of thing where under ground,
eventually you'll encounter enemies and you'll need to have a defensive things built around
your structures and your machines to protect them once those enemies start to attack,
and you could clearly see where those enemies are, you know when you're gonna
provoke them, so you can prepare for battle first. And it's like juggling
these things is really satisfying. Every loop like feeds into each it feeds into
one another, and I'm just having a really good time with it. It's
a really well made one of those I am happy to be back in the
Steam World universe. Like they're doing like some small narrative stuff where they're like,
we're going to go out the space, and a lot of the other
Steam World games have taken place in space, so you get the sense that
like, oh, all these things are tied together, and obviously they are,
but it's not some huge narrative, and I just it's something that's easy
to ignore, which I appreciate as well. I don't know if other people
are gonna be like, oh, I wish there was more story here or
something like that, but for me, I'm happy with the level of story
in it. But yeah, I just I sat down to play it today
and couldn't put it down. And it's really well done. One of those
you know, I'm not hearing like a ton of noise about this game outside
of you. I wonder if that's just the consequence of the way that this
year is people are still just playing really really big games, or maybe I'm
just kind of missing that way. I mean, you know, it is
an indie game from Thunderful that isn't out yet, like it's out tomorrow,
so maybe you know, and it is like one of those games where people
are gonna have to like play for a handful of hours to really understand how
all the systems are working. And so I imagine that it's going to take
a little bit before people who are gonna feel comfortable commented on it. But
I bet it's gonna get some traction coming out of Game Pass and it's gonna
be like, oh, yeah, you should try this. This is really
satisfying, because it is. It just is really fun to play. But
I wouldn't be surprised, Mike if you're right as well, where it's gonna
be easy to be like, oh, I'm still catching up on this and
that, and people, I'm gonna go back to the Star Wars Jedi Survivor,
which fucking Dan is doing right now. It's gonna be easy to ignore
this and like even Avatar, I think it's gonna have a little bit of
a hard time, but we'll see. I don't know, Mike, what
have you been playing? I went back to Star Wars Jedi Survivy you did.
You're doing this too a little bit, you know, because you know,
I put it up with the Place of five to play something else I'll
talk about. But I decided to transition to this because of that. You
kind of set me up there for a layup. You know. It's funny.
I've been kind of talking some shit about this game and I start playing,
Like, Eah, this game is a lot of fun. Actually,
isn't gonna be anything wrong with this. I kind of wish I had time
to play through all of it now, but man, that's where I'm at
too. I think I might play it on the plane. I might switch
over to PC and leave my PS five stay behind and play it on the
plane. I can't do that. But I only got to play a little
bit. But I was like, man, this game does feel good.
I wish I could play more of it. What I was doing more was
playing Found Fantasy sixteen, trying to play more of that. I mean,
look, any hopes to be beating that before, I'm like going to la
that's not going to happen. But that's okay. Like I do like the
game. I don't think it's going to up here in my top ten.
There's just been so many good games, and like there are issues with sixteen,
Like you know, honestly, by the last few hours of it,
it's like not much has been happening, right, Like sixteen has these incredibly
high highs. You're fighting like the kids yep, and it's like you're like
a Godzilla fight. And then there's times where I'm just like talking to a
person and they didn't like mow cap the mouth movements, and they want me
to go fight bees and then I go fight bees in it like literally takes
two seconds. And then you go and talk to them some more about how
you fought the bees and you can't. You can't like grab the game and
shake it and like what the hell are we doing here? Why are you
like this? And then you get back to like one of those really great
moments and it's like, okay, why not focus on this instead? I
am confused about like why they thought they needed that. I guess people say,
that's like some really Final Fantacy fourteen ass bullshit, But I don't know,
is it well me, yeah, I mean it kind of does remind
me of MMO stuff, but I don't know. The vibe is a lot
different in MMOs stuff. Of course, that's that's for sure, But yeah,
I did. I was thinking that a little bit. It's like,
why are there like MMO quests in here? You don't really you really shouldn't
have quests like that, but you know, what's your three kind of ruined
that forever? Right? Which are three? Is the ones? We don't
have boring side quests? All the side quests are kind of interesting now,
So it's kind of weird to see any game sort of fall back on bad
habits there. And it definitely feels like Pan Fantasy sixteen was like a game
that's like from people who had at least played the Witcher and then but why
didn't you like take these lessons? I don't know. Well, that's the
thing like that you kind of wish the game was more Witcher and instead.
Really, and I said this from the beginning, it really is more like
God of War like Ragnarock style, and a bit that will make cry.
I still like it. I think in the combat system is a lot of
fun. I still I think a lot of characters are a lot of fun.
Although there is the weirdness of this being that game famously where the Doctor's
like, no, no black people and then turns out the story is about
slavery. It's a little weird. It's a little weird. It's a little
weird. It's a little bit weird. But I still am enjoying playing it,
and I still am going to continue to play it. I'm going to
see that one through. Yep. I'm glad I played the amount of it
I played, and then when I fell off of it, I was like,
no harm, no fault. You know what. I think I got
the good stuff out of that game for the most part. Maybe I missed
some of the cooler set pieces later in the game, but those early set
pieces are also very good. And uh, the what do they call dragoons?
That moment where that dragoon is on top of the building and the music
that's a can and he does in cool and he does the post from the
post before logo. Yes, I love that. I mean the music is
so good. Yeah, I would. I still like this is the one
I would push for best soundtrack. I think it's very it's very, very
good music. And like the guy who composed his music was also composing the
fount Facy fourteen music and battling cancer, can't ye, I wouldn't argue that
I really like the music in this game a whole time. Don't worry.
I'm gonna play the cancer card a ton, so you know, get ready
for that. Looks it's gonna be real tasteless. You should have played that
against Banjo. You could have got it off the list. I try to
figure out the cancer angle there. Of course you racking your brain. Sure
wet Order Order of Ecclesia. You could have said that, and I would
have been like, finally, well it's in a super chat. I don't
know. I never actually got to play that much of Order Ecclesia. Okay,
Order Clezy is the best three D S one. Yeah, yes,
I want to play it. I keep kind of wait for a chance.
That's the one with the gosh. It's like Stacy Keepler in that Day of
Reckoning. We game like, man, you're raking it, You're rking It's
just a bare back, but somehow it seems a decent It looks so good.
Yep, absolutely, I don't know anything else, Mike. I mean
I said, I k sake very good. I want to play more of
that. It's a ton It's it's not quite what I was expecting. I
didn't realize how flexible the combat system was. Like I know the game is
all about combos, but I thought like it was traditional combos, like you
know, push this button and this but this button. The way they actually
work with you kind of like are chaining specific beginners linkers and then enders,
and there's like a lot of complexity to that, and the way your component
can kind of guess which buttons you're pushing to counter, right, It's it's
very interesting, and it's interesting in a way that you understand right away.
Like I basically been playing the game for two days, and of course I
don't understand like the bigger complexities, but I get it, like I get
the game now, I understand what I need to do. So really enjoying
it and it's fun that this game is getting a new life. But I
really really do hope that they just make another one with like very similar mechanics.
The I mean, I think they're going to make another one. They
keep wanting, they keep They even said that we would love to make another
one. They're going to make another one, and I think Iron Galaxy is
going to oversee it, and I think that would be fantastic because they really
seem to understand what made that game good in the first place when they took
it over from Double Helix sitting that's right. Okay, well wait wait,
wait man, this back is even more decent than I thought this order Ecclesia
box. I mean it's going all the way down to the crack. You
see that. Oh we get some we get some ass cleavage. Yeah,
yeah, it's in the chat right now, like the YouTube chat. Okay,
man, I forgot that back. So I think that it's the ass.
Once you see the crack, that's no longer your back, that's not
even once you start to see the back begin to have that bump of the
butt cheeks, the buttocks, that's a buttocks, that's a butter like those
two circles. Like you're just saying that because you're used to those. The
Tina women with that with big butts could incredible too real? All right?
What was yeah? Chance to sit our uh? This is that shot up
to the like near the top of my Game of the Year list. This
is a yes, well tell me that I got no time. Well,
let me be clear here. How do you feel about ober Den? I
know you played it recently, spare my feeling you liked it? All right?
I didn't don't play this. Sorry what you? Mary Kish and Mike
and Maharty are like whatever ober Den, And I'm like, this is a
religious experience that I think. That's the problem is people like you're talking about
being your experience. I was kind of like waiting for that. I was
like, oh you just yeah, I get it. Okay, Yeah,
so chances scenario is a lot like that, but with language instead of kazoo
nuts and bolts. I guess better than Smash Brothers Bro. I still can't.
I can't believe that's even on your Twitter if you were Smash Brothers Bro.
Like how that game's legacy is negative? You people are insane. I'm
sorry, Mike, since you brought up I want to mention one that might
give you a pop. No, no, no, you're gonna like this.
Someone said where's brawl? And someone respine with it tripped a top five.
That's good. I gotta they get a gold star. Never mind that
they get it. Yeah, man, all im seeing that. My response
is is Banjo Kazu the Nuts and Bolts is getting the love it deserves.
So all the other people were just never played it. What they could say,
Oh my god? All right, yeah, Chance. The scenario is
my what do you think that game sort one hundred thousand copies? Yeah?
Okay, it didn't sell very well? What did it? It probably got
like three hundred parding copies? No, no, of course, but it
should be shamed for its failure. Chance scenaris a game where it's like,
uh, there are made up languages and they are mostly symbol based languages,
and you need to reverse engineer how they're working so that you can decode them
and understand what these people are saying, what these machines are trying to do
things like that, and it's not prescribed to you. You need to figure
it out on your own. And usually this works. You go around the
world and you see enough clues, and then your little guy that you're playing
as right some pictures in the book and creates a little circles next to them,
and you're supposed to put the symbols next there to be like this means
that, this means book, this means plural things like that. Speaking on
Mary Kirsch, I think I saw her play this game at some point.
Maybe this sounds familiar. Yeah, yeah, probably, I think she likes
this game. Yeah, So it's it's cool because like you start on this
area and there's one language, and then you go to the next area and
you're like, it's probably gonna work the same, and it's like, no,
this language has different syntax in different rules, and they put the subject
at the beginning like some languages do, like Yoda, the way Yoda speaks,
that's how they work. And then other ones are like, this is
a very scientific culture and they're gonna have lots of like numbers, and the
way that they do their math is like it can go up to a number,
can go up to a thousand. You got to kind of figure out
how that works. And all of these things are there's no combat, it's
all just intuiting how these systems actually function and having that opportunity to like use
your brain to reverse engineer. That is what I really like in games like
this. And I got that feeling from Oberden. I get it from this
and it's just it's blowing my mind. So really really like it. And
I'm glad games like this keep getting made because I'm like, you know,
obernin seems like so hard to make. How do you even test a game
like that? How do you know if it's well, uh, you know,
balanced for a new player or something like that. And I'm like,
god, it seems really difficult. So the fact that more and more games
are kind of coming out in this vein, it's very exciting to me.
So yeah, this is in my top five for sure, top five yep,
wow, okay, it just it just fits with my the way I
like to play games a lot. Yeah, no, it's it's fine.
It's you know, it's it's below residut before though, right, I mean
yeah, right, I've already popped so many blood vessels. Just lie to
me. If it's not, I said, yeah, I'm so yeah,
it'd like better. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean of course, Mike.
Yeah, like this and Rasle four is like it's one of the best
action games ever made. I mean it probably is the best action game ever
made. Yeah. Actually, how you doing to That's why I said it
to you? Okay, yeah, gotcha, Mike, I love resid Evil
for what do you want from it? I'm just god, you played it?
Whatever you played it? Oh no, it's it's awesome. It's awesome.
Yeah, right, saying say it again. Also apparently I was pretty
close. Uh but that's appost about one hundred and forty thousand apparently. Wow,
man, that's why we don't get a new Banger game. No,
obviously, yeah, that's why we did have to absolutely all right, that's
what I've been playing. I've been catching up on boulders Gate three, but
I think I'm putting that aside. I wanted to play only two on stream,
but now I'm at a plaint where I just got to play that on
my own. So I'm gonna I'll beat that game here at some point.
And then other than that, it's I don't know, I might play a
little more Survivor. That might be the other game here. So yeah,
I mean, gosh again, say this game is fun. I wish I
could play all it's so. I mean, I I did a good job
playing and beating a lot of games this year. I just did. I
don't want to, right, but and even still I feel bad about missing
some games. Yep. Oh yeah, that's I yet to have groups of
people come together and figure these things out. Yep, absolutely, and I
look forward to doing that starting tomorrow. Everybody to tune in a noon are
Eastern? I think, yeah, are you gonna send me that dog?
By way? Am I just gonna find about these categories on the fly?
I guess sent it to you right now? Sean continded to you, probably,
I don't think se I think Sean has it so cool? All right,
Mike, should we get out of here? Well, we got some
more super chats though. After these super chats, all right, go ahead
and hit me with them. Yeah, let's see where were we? Uh?
I think? Yeah, there was quite a few here we Where are
we? Okay? Right here? From oh grug When you guys have your
edge and Christian like feud, I think we're having it right now. Which
one of you will act kind of normal and which one will send a dinosaur
to kill the other one? Well? Wait, wait what you Christian?
A different Christian? No? No, but somebody sends a dinosaur? What
the fuck? Yeah? Watch aw, come on, Yeah, I'd be
proud one of the men controls a dinosaur. Do you even understand wrestling?
It's incredible. I need to get on that ship right the funck now?
Uh yeah, I think to be clear, I think I'll be the one
with the dinosaur killing Me and my friends had a thing we would say to
each other whenever we were mad at each other. We would say, I'm
going to send a predator to killing you. I don't know why that was.
You said the movie character a predator to go a not any predator.
You're gonna send the prest predator. I don't be predator. Somehow we have
the ability to sitcom on simmaries. I just thought you meant like a predatory
animal, and I was imagine like, oh yeah, like saying like a
badger at him or something. You know, we just said the predator.
Shageer me Meto says. Me and my friend cool Chris played we music during
Thanksgiving dinner. Definitely one of the top five. Man, How did we
not even think about playing we music at the thing. I don't even know
if Dan has Wee music. I don't know if I've ever played more did
like ten seconds of Wei music at Best Buy? Yeah, I don't think
I ever really played that game. I'm actually try and have fun WI music.
Maybe it can be done. I doubt it's impossible. Jacob Bench says,
this is bench JC. I'm giving you money so I can yo the
bral Hayston saying that's right. This is one of the brawl ones. Here's
the other brawl one. Here's be a Metal talking about WI music again.
Ol Groux says, make Dan teach you about Command and Conquer. Yeah he
uh he had u yes, yeh here looks commanded Command of Conquer swag.
That's interesting because he doesn't strike me as an arts guy like at all,
because he would just like build the biggest army of dumb ass ship and then
just said it all at once, and that's how he would play those games.
Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. Matt Muky
says nuts in Bolton in persona form made delicious Like I said, Yeah,
there you go. I'm sure what says Order Clacio doesn't eight too g T
A four disrespect. Yeah, I do feel bad like g T A four
just doesn't do more for me and Order Clayzya I want to like I would.
I kind of want to play that now, it's just uh don't really.
I don't have a copy of it for my DS don't really have my
DS ready to go either, and I'm playing through a Star oceanal my switch.
Anyways, that's my portable gaming right now. Uh, Michael Leary says,
you're about to be canceled for this list that I'm here for it.
Go for it, do it, do your worst, come at us.
Look if Saint Smashbur's Brawl is not that good, is that something you're gonna
cancel me for it? Just cancel me already coming out of here. I
did get one that says, y'all legit looked at GTA four middle gear solid
for and Brawl and decided to instead put in Banjo Kazooi, nuts and bolts.
This is why there are still wars in the world. So yeah,
I just I am just so confused. Was I actually living in some bubble?
Everyone's like, guys, the fans moded Brawl so much to make it
playable that it became a new game. That's what type of fans. What
type of the people actually playing the game the most? Not the people who
were five it played it for a weekend after their friends Greg's house, after
their mom ya cookies. Jesus Christ, I love I love it all right,
all right you Peka Blue says you chose a game by pissed Jug dude
for a game you could defend helms Deep from a zombie invasion? Nuts and
bolts, What game could you defend helms Deep from a zombie invasion? I
mean there was that was this the year that that Lord of the Rings game
that was like battle fucking out. I did like that game. I don't.
I don't think it's going to make any top five lost battle it's it's
better than Battlefront two. Of course I'm going to get you. You can't.
Look, I can't. I can't. We can't do that. Piss
Jug was a misunderstanding, Like it was he was tweeting a picture of something
that he was putting into the Witness as like a reference to the character that
is stuck in the Witness. It's it's appear in that jobbing blow defender.
There's plenty of real reasons to think he's a weird dude, although that moment
was a really cool moment on Twitter when everyone's just like, what is piss
Jug over here? What's he doing with this thing? That was good stuff?
Nick here says, first super Chap, I would think Nick if you
smoke weed and you get high, you should watch Soja Boy's Braid review.
I remember that, I do. I do not remember that that was the
thing. And then Connell Wood says, Ecclesia robbed Shanoah as an incredible zign.
Yeah, she sure does, doesn't she isn't. Isn't Shoah in the
name of Monk's assistant? That name's kilt rude for me as a Pennsylvania And
isn't it the name of the evil organization of fining Fantasy seven or some bullshit?
I don't know. No, that's close. Close clot get points,
I get points, all right? Uh so I do it? I guess,
yeah, Well you gonna ever No, I just I'm I'm actually confused.
I'm like, I have a Bernstein Bears moment. I'm worried I slipped
into another dimension. I just I mean, it's you were a melee player.
The probably the places you spent like time online were from people with a
similar background. I guess you're right, they all hate it. Yeah,
I guess. I mean, I guess I was just in a bit of
an echo champer. But they're clear I agree with that echo chamber, right,
Yes, But yeah, all right, I'm glad. Hey, I'm
glad you all like Supermas buzz Ball. It just wasn't for me. Sorry,
all right, it just frozen form me again. We should we should
end the show, all right, Mike, you ready to get out of
here? Yeah? I heard ton, We're done here, all right.
Yeah, it's happening. It is actually happening. I got a pack a
bag, I got like a suitcase because it's gonna be I'm gonna have gone
for more than a week, so or about a week. So yeah,
it's gonna be a little bit on for a week earlier than you. Yep.
So yeah, so it's gonna be a lot. But looking forward to
it's gonna be a good time. But it starts tomorrow. Game of the
Year starts tomorrow. Everybody who got seven categories looking forward to it'll be a
lot of fun. So yeah, definitely tune in, Mike. Where can
people find you on the internet? Talkodo everywhere? Yeah, just you know,
check out all this giant bum stuff. We're gonna be doings to be
fun. But also go to games beat for me and my team over there.
I always appreciate New nineties Disney coming out tomorrow. About the candlelight processional
bit of a Christmas tradition from Epcot in Disneyland. So check that out tomorrow
at nine zero Sdisney dot Com. I'm Jeff Greb on Twitter, Jeff Grab
on Twitch. Who knows we'll have time to stream again. I would like
that's that'll happen at some point. Yeah, I don't know. Like Mike
I said, tune in for that giant bomb stuff. We did a new
blike club yesterday. That was a lot of fun. Listen to the voicemail
dumb truck from today. That was a lot of fun. Fun. Yeah,
I wasn't even there. It was about me a lot. I like,
Yeah, it's a show just about Mike Mnani mostly, which is a
good time. And then, yeah, there will be no game Mest Mornings
tomorrow, so if you were look forward to that and there, there won't
be one for a while. And I apologize. I kind of feel bad
about that, but here we plenty busy. Jeff's yeah, well, there
will be a lot of content and stuff, but I don't know. I
feel like Grand Theft Auto six is going to get announced and I'm going to
be like I should just do an episode, but we can always just get
on. We can just tell Jenna push a button. We can get on
and talk about it. I might just I'll just like make a short version
of the show or something. We'll just post it. I don't know.
We'll see, we'll make something happen and there will be a lot of stuff
and we'll do some cool stuff that we're all going to be in person.
We'll make some tiktoks or something like that. Oh also, if you're a
member of the of the Giant Bomb Premium before the live show, I'm going
to be streaming a premium only discord stage with a video of some behind the
sea just steeing stuff. So if you want to check that out, definitely
tune in. All right, everybody, thanks for listening. Bye tomorrow,
Yeah, Jeopardy Tomorrow. We sing versus Ashtray Maje, I'll take U.
We sing, thank you, show hand card. We're coming. They don't
say they are, Zelda, that's fine. Just mak a fool himself.
Beata Games. If you want to hear about gaming in a quasi intelligence matters,
you can't go wrong. Five stars. Ouch guy, Thanks thanks breaking.
This is a break break. I guess it's like a little hot,
like you can probably turn down his game a touch, right, Yeah,
I turned off my game a little bit when I was streaming because people said
I was low. Just a touch, Mike, it's not. It's not
terrible, but yeah, I just turned it down this ever so slightly peaking.
Yeah, flowered, that's better when I'm back, sure, smoking on
that puck? Sorry, what's going on? Chat? What's going on?
Shot? What's the Red Wings score? ESPN? Red? I bit you?
That's a that's a racist name. It's it's not. It's completely made
up thing, but we will probably find a way for it to be racist
though, if we wanted, if we worked hard enough, don't try me.
Hey, hey, they're playing the black Hawks. Okay, and that's
a Native American tribe that you keep saying that that that combination of words like
it doesn't sound like black cocks and weird. Ah, well, now then
I'm never gonna be able to unhear that. Thanks a lot, Christian,
I appreciate it. They won five to one. Hell, yeah, let's
go. They can't forget a hat trick. I hope con forgot a hat
trick. Got a hat trick is hat trick? It means the same thing
like in soccer, like you get treated. It means the same thing as
in soccer. Yes, okay, Disney versus Ultraman, Well, Ultraman can
turn like giant and like just crush Disney. Like the person and the park
and the head and the brain. Yeah you think that, you think after
after Elon apologized, they're gonna reconnect the brain to the to the Twitter or
that's just just done. That's too late for that. Oh yes, son,
hey, and hockey they throw hats on ice. Of course, what
do they do in other countries not throw hats during a hat trick? All
me allow me to act like a twenty year old and say, that's kind
of cringe. That's a cringe. What's cringe is if you are wearing a
hat and you don't throw it when someone gets a hat trick on your team,
that would be cringe. That would do the fun thing? What happened
you? I assure if you if you wear a hat to a hockey game,
you better be ready to part with it. Exactly Yes, that's exactly
right. If it's part of the social contract, then yes it is.
Throw my head in there. What do people occupy on the Ice. You're
still a little hot, Mike. Well, I was screaming too, but
I can lower a little bit more and it's a a notch. Yeah.
Touch. How's this? How's this? Everybody pretty good? How's that?
Smoking? Eat every day? Let's go? All right, I'm ready.
What if I I put a spring on my hat and when I throw it
it comes back to me. That would just be fucking cool. Dude,
stuff spring, Let's go, let's go almost, don't do that because we're
going. We're getting back into it right now. It was half of sixty.
Okay, you're dying. No, right, he's happy and he's not
used to that. It's just sure. Yeah, rip, looking at that
bag. Watch, let's sucking go. There's not enough his for that grave
in the world. No, not all the pits in the world is not
enough. Okay, let's see here. It's two thousand and eight, right,
that is what we're doing. Oh yes, okay, podcast I saw
sorry, I saw TikTok Anthony Burdain that almost made me cry, where he
talks about Erry Kissinger and Heim wanting to the punch in the face. Oh
my god, every day I love you even more. Yeah, yeah,
he's uh he talked about that a lot. Yeah, okay, let's see
here. I am going to bring us back in Mike. Are you ready?
Two thousand ninth, It's happened, great year? Is this? This
is Jeff you posted to me. That's so weird that I'm wearing the same
brown shirt, Jeff. That is weird. I didn't even think about that.
Yeah, I did double take. I'm like, damn, he was
on that frest that often. I just I just searched a Twitter gift tool
for Mike Minati and that was it. That came out, all right,
two thousand and eight, here we go. Everybody penny out from quality beats,
two stars, corporate shills. You just can't trust this more. I
love I love every one of our reviewers. Whatever you got to review us,
Thank you. Okay, it's most most people are just gonna be mad
at Grand Theft, Auto and Smash Brothers aren't on there. That's what's gonna
happen. Brian Milliers law for more because there's like and yes, I have
always had it browl even though by the way me and my friends were Larry
how fucking drive. I was not a child when that game came out.
I think in your country, the little people drive too early. Well,
you know, jeff Any teacher, I use this website. If you want
maximum engagement, you need to put below the list all the games that aren't
on the list, suckers, and then put all the all the good games
runner ups all right. Next time Clia came came out of that year,
oh my god. Yeah, it was like I was like, I should
have mentioned that, but then we got to honed in on Banjo, and
I'm like, there's no point in messing this up. Now. The games
I like made the list or Clay is really good and actually probably for the
one is on the left, for the two everybody else. I was just
gonna say that the other fucking weapons. Lucy's mad at us for leaving off
the Lost Via Domas game or yeah, Lost of Via dormis whatever the fuck
it's called. Sure, yes, I'm sure she's very serious about that.
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely she's gonna yell at me. Uh, didn't
Viva Pignada fill the void left by Spore? Yeah? Yeah, Viva pin
Well, no, because nothing is actually like Spoor, but Viva pad is
great at least, and Spore isn't like viv and Pinott a lot, and
that's when I want to replace people were so excited for Sport that was so
weird. But then I was so excited for Sport. I don't know,
did you watch his like GDC talk about it? I like lost my mind
for it was crazy like that then? Yes, yeah, back then,
yeah no. This was when I was first starting to like read more magazines
than just a Nintendo Power and everything right, and I was like, oh,
why are people excited for this weird little like Animal Creation game or Whire
Holidays out. I don't get the hype, but sure you do, you
right, I literally have thousands of hours on them. Okay, do you
need me to give you the two thousand and seven games? Yeah? Yeah,
one of the two and seven games. One is More You'll Go,
two is Modern Warfare, BioShock Force Persona three and five is Portal. I
love how you're giving me ship or my Mario Galaxy takes. When I put
a number one with giving it to giving Rebecca ship three free was BioShock and
then what sorry? Three was BioShock Force Persona three five portal. I don't
even remember you had. Oh that's right, you did say something I forgot
I forgot about what you said, Sean. Not everything's about you from you.
She get all clean. A couple of freaks, one of them inhales
there, dat's feet dust. Five stars. That's true. That's true,
five starts. Thank you. I don't like that. Okay, let's get
backing, brother. Mm hmm