This is not expect to be your night, Danny. It's time to stray
from their tota because you'll find some side coolst Hey everyone, and welcome to
side Quest. Every other week Authors and Dragons episode where we sit down.
We don't play a game. Well sometimes we play a game, but we're
not playing game tonight, just forget I even said that, and we do
something cool U and tonight we definitely have something cool. My name is Rick
Quiltieri and joining me tonight are M. K. Gibson Gibbie and Robert Bevan.
Say hi, guys, Hi, guys, guy, hello enemy.
You just went for that fucking joke. Goddamn it, like like low balls,
just old man balls right there looking them. Anyway, we have on
tonight a uh two faces who should be very familiar to Andy listeners or watchers
because you've all seen Shingles the movie right and read the books. It's h
dynamic d do a behind movies such as the Carousel trilogy, the Miawi movies,
and of course Shingles the movie. We have Steve Razinski and Aleen Eisley.
Guys, so much for having us on the show. It is a
pleasure to be here. It's good to talk with you guys again. Yeah,
it's been a while. Like likewise, yeah, it's been, it's
been. I probably should have said multi award winning Shingles of the movie.
Yeah, I really I really should write that before I like introduce things Shingles
the movie from Fangoria chainsaw Award winner filmmaker Steve Zinsky all right, started all
over against the whole I'm not fucking memorizing to one go send me, send
me a goddamn a cue card next time. So you guys, I mean,
we'll just cut right to the chest. You guys got a new project
in the works. Want you tell us about it? Well, uh,
Aleen, why don't you start us off because it was your initial idea.
I'm gonna unmute. I have to mute because otherwise you're gonna hear Steve twice
in the other room. So yeah, So this was supposed to be a
year where Silver Spotlight took a break and we were not going to make a
movie and we were just gonna relax, And of course I had to come
along and ruin that. So we will be making a movie called Curtains for
Christmas. It's a rom calm wonderful, heartwarming film about a woman who meets
her true love and really wants her Christmas movie to happen. Unfortunately, she
happens to be very sadistic, and so she ends up killing and kidnapping and
a bunch of other things just to force that ending for herself. And so
it's gonna be actually a horror comedy, Hokay, Okay, So I'll admit,
like, like I saw, I saw the link notice for the Kickstarter
before I like, and it was maybe a day or two before I clicked
on it, just because it was like I saw it in passing and my
first thought was like, you know, it was wow, these guys because
I know you guys really love Christmas, and I was like, wow,
they're really just making a feel good, like a Hallmark Christmas movie. And
then I clicked on the link for the watch the started thing and I was
just like, oh, yeah, it's a it's a Steve movie. Yeah.
I watched it cheriler for today and it looked like it looks like a
lot of fun. Actually, thank you. Yeah, It's kind of like
Amiville Criss Vacation was that was our like feel good Hallmark Christmas movie, except
in the Amityville franchise to literally just lampoon what that series has become and make
sure that the first Christmas movie in Amityville is in some schlock horror film and
it's actually a Christmas movie. So when Aleen came up with this idea,
I was like, Oh, this is basically us lampooting ourselves. So it's
once again her and I as the love interest, except now it is a
horror movie, except it's our original take on it. Yeah. I got
to say, I really loved the scene where it just cuts between you guys
standing there real nice as a couple and you screaming help that that that makes
the trailer. I came up with that idea months ago, and I had
like, I got out of my shower and immediately had to send a voice
message to a lean to make sure that I didn't forget that idea because it
was so vivid in my head. I was just like, oh, this
would be perfect, and it's like it's cutting between it all and like,
yeah, I'm glad it turned out that that. Well, I'm glad you
liked it. Well, no, it was really it was a really fun
looking trailer. I was really into it. And like it definitely has all
all the all the traffics of you of your standard work, but it also
just there was a magic, a magic to it, a Christmas magic,
if you will. And I was before the podcast came on, like it
like that that thumbnail that's being used. It feels like, I homage to
say, it to an eternal Sunshine type of moment where you have the two
characters had head looking at each other and has beautiful tones to it. And
then when the gore starts in, it really takes that message. It punches
in the asshole and I think that might be what you're going for because it
works for me. Yeah. I mean when we were writing it and how
I plan to shoot it is definitely a case of I want the Christmas rom
com stuff to be legitimate Christmas rom com. You know, we already shot
a couple of scenes because we had to fill that on Mall while they had
all the Christmas stuff up. We filmed when it actually snowed. I was
crossing my fingers writing the script in like December, being like, man,
I hope we actually get some winter this year. But so we're shooting that
very legitimately. And then it's still, you know, it's like you were
saying, Rick, it's a Steve movie, so it's still gonna be a
live action cartoon. The violence is still gonna be over the top and ridiculous.
There's gonna be a lot of violence this This movie has the the highest
effects budget of any movie that I've made. It's nice assuming the Kickstarter succeeds
and we get to make it, obviously, But you know, like as
you guys said, I love Christmas. It is my favorite time of year.
It is my favorite holiday. It is my favorite genre of film,
Christmas movies. So I want to as I did with Amityville in two days
and three hundred dollars, so many people said the reason why that movie worked
is because you could tell that the guy making it like Christmas. You can
tell that he was making a Christmas movie. And so I want to do
that with this, to parody all those Christmas wrong coms that I do love,
alongside all the just over the top insanity, Holly's sadistic nature of just
trying to make things go well. And there's also going to be a fake
movie in the movie, which is Holly's favorite Christmas film, a cheesy Christmas
which should be a talking animal movie to reference the other part of my career,
and that one I literally wrote in the ripped that it is color corrected,
far too warm, like it shouldn't look the way that it looks,
but that's how so many of those movies are color corrected. So like I
have to do that in the universe. I love fake movies within movies.
We're gonna we're gonna get to see three scenes from it and then like the
DVD box office snap a picture of those two actors. If I was a
millionaire, the love interest in the fake movie would be Brandon Ralph or Henry
Cavill, so that we can get a better Superman to replace Dean Kine and
Talking Animal Chrism's movies, at least in my fictional universe. Yeah, I
mean, I know, I know, starting with like with Karenself two,
you started to mix in like the wholesome with the horrific, and this kind
of feels like taking it to the next level, like like really mix it
in that that wholesome because the wholesome scenes are really cute, and like you
know, in that and the horrific scenes, you get like it. But
it's like it's like buckets suddenly it's buckets of blood. And yeah, I
for one can appreciate that that mix well. For me, I like that
mix. You know, like obviously I like straight horror films, but I
also like gay horror films as well. But I mean having multiple emotions and
multiple themes and multiple feelings, to me, works a lot better for a
film instead of it just being one gear the entire time. I mean I
even toy with that with you know, the Shingles movie, like it was
yours guy's script and yours Gas's books, but like when we were shooting it,
it would be stuff like, okay, well let's actually make this shot
like more eerie and more suspenseful, and then let's actually make this moment like
heartwarming, like like let's really focus on like the warmth of like this character
connection and now let's rip out an eyeball. And I mean I felt the
warmth. I mean watching that scene of like you know, of you know,
Dusty jerking off on the Bob's picture is romantic. I felt the warmth
as well, all over your face. But it I think my take on
it is that I want to make every part of it to the Max,
And I don't mean like completely overdoing it or like everything has to be perfect,
but I mean like, when we go to the gore, I wanted
to be extremely gory. I wanted to be extremely bloody. I want people
to have fun with the gore. And then when we cut back to the
wholesomeness, it is genuine, like it's not just tongue in cheek winking at
the camera and making fun of it, Like, no, I want that
to be actually wholesome and meaningful. And it doesn't work for everyone. You
know, there's plenty of letterbox reviews that pet literally any of the story of
Carousel two and three because they only want to watch blood okay, But for
the people that it does work for, the people that actually do connect with
the story and the characters, I think that's what makes the fans so enthusiastic
about what I do, and so I just I try to keep doing that
on every new film. And that's one of the things that makes me excited
about Curtains for Christmas is that support the Kickstarter today is that it's a new
ip, but it's also meant to be one and done, Like this is
not meant to be a Caresel. You know, we pictured a series with
Caresel. This is very much like this is a beginning and an end in
one film. So let's kind of go all out and deliver a really memorable
experience for the fans that do want this movie and discover it. What's up
now? It was meant to be I just give the's fine, please,
dude. It's meant to be a one and done and it was also supposed
to be a year off too, So I'm just saying, there is always
gonna be a change. So it's gonna come along and say, you know,
I have an idea for a sequel, and as long as it's a
good pitch, would you be willing to do it? I mean, I'm
a whore. I'm willing to do anything for money, fair enough, But
I just I'm just trying to be upfront with the fans too. You know,
like Aleena and I we had we knew what Part two of Carousel is
going to be, and we had an idea for three Curtains is very much
like, hey, this is where the story ends. There isn't like a
post credit scene that explicitly sets up Part two on purpose. You know,
that is not part of the plane that's not in our head. Some of
my favorite sequels when they are some are not ones that are set up to
be a sequel. It is like it picks up as a gap, like
from Star Wars to Empire. It's like there's a gap and the new story
picks up and that Those are the best kind of sequels for me. I
don't want something like immediately leading into the next one. I want another chap.
Those can be the worst type of sequels. Also, which ones?
What do you mean? Oh? Like uh like, I mean, it's
not the worst movie in the world, but as far as like you know,
like you're going from great to letdowns for example like Ghostbusters two. Yeah,
that's my go to of like don't do it. Yeah, that's that's
that's that. Well, it's a fun I will any movie I don't like,
and Steve loves that. Here's the thing. I liked it as a
kid when I watched it as a kid, because it has a childlike heart
to it, Whereas the first one is more of a standalone Like I I've
always argued that it has comedic effects, but it's more of a sci fi
horror movie with jokes. The second one is more of a comedy that's brushes
that brushes up against the sci fi, So I'd say that's fair. Yeah,
yeah, I just like the villains more. And the story is more
focused because the first one is so focused on building the business that I can
appreciate that the sequel is much more about the slime and Vego and you know,
Janosh, And that's what works for me. I think what doesn't work
for me? And I was just the second movie feels like a third in
a series, meaning they're downtrodden. I would rather have had a we are
three years into our successful business and then they lose it all. Oh,
I agree with that. That is a criticism I've had with the Ghostbusters films
as a whole, Like I don't know why every single Ghostbusters film has to
be like oh, as soon as they beat the Big Bad, all the
ghosts disappeared, and they're just right worthless. Like No, I prefer the
cartoon. I prefer the comic books. Cartoon was fucking brilliant because so many
of those good episodes are written by Strazinski, who just knows his shit.
And like we talked about this when when I I was Bob Steve and I.
We did the thing for the Ghostbusters trailer. We did a side quest
just on movies and things like that, and this new trailer, I'll see
it. Sure, I'm excited for it, not especially, but I you
know, I love one so much that I've watched everything that came afterwards with
varying levels of happiness. I'm interested in Frozen Empire simply because this in the
movie universe. This will be the first time the threat isn't because of Shandor,
right, because Shandor built the building in one we revealed in the game
that Shandor built the slime factories that was the problem in to Shandor's backup plan
B was the villain of the game, which I think is still canon thanks
to a few lines in After Life, right, and then of course After
Life was Shandor's final goes or plans. So like, finally, this is
not Shandor. Bring me into the urban fantasy that was the animated series.
There are other creatures that those are the monsters that there's the other machinations out
there. That's what I'm looking forward to, Like you said, the most
for this Frozen Empire type thing. Yes, it doesn't always need to be
about the same shandor so all right, let's let's you know, circle the
pack. I was I was gonna mention. Sorry, no, it's this
is what we do. We talk. Yeah, stop fucking apologizing. It's
who I am. It's a lot of Catholic guilt left over. So well,
I ate your priests and we're not in some back room with me telling
you don't tell your parents about that. Rub my head and just say,
you know what I was gonna what I was gonna say, Like you know,
like even when you do get those like naked reviews regarded, like you
know, somebody saying, well, I don't like the disparity and say a
carousel too, there's still there's still value to that because, like you know,
love it or hate it, it's always good when people are talking about
it. At least. That's that's always been my uh been my theory.
So long as they are toxic. It's the only time it gets to me
when when some people are making like two hour long podcasts just dumping on me
as a person. And at the end of the day, if people don't
like what I'm doing, that's fine, Like I'll ever say that they're wrong
I'll never say that like they're idiots or something. It is just one of
those cases where it's just like, like, if you didn't like Carossel three,
no debate, no argument. If you're saying that the only good part
of Carosel three was the first ten minutes and you didn't care about the story
and it got boring, then the franchise was never meant for you, Like
this wasn't like for you. If that's what you wanted. There are an
infinite amount of schlock horror movies that are just blood and tits for ninety minutes.
We Aleen and I never wanted that to be caros Hell. We wanted
to tell a real story with real war and actual stakes and emotions, and
that's what we want to stick with. I mean, I think Curtains is
sillier than cares Hell two and three. Do you think that's fair to state?
Aleen, believe it or not. I think some of the situations and
Curtains are more unbelievable and unrealistic then talking Youdicorn chasing people down. We have
created I can't spoil it, sorry, but I mean we've created one of
my absolute favorite murder gags. I think we've ever put in a movie ever.
For this movie, it's so important that it gets made because I have
to see this come to life on the stage and on the page. I
did share it in the Andy Discord that that's what she's referencing. Rick okay,
oh oh yeah, yeah. Secrets though you can't tell everybody. I
mean, we don't have that big of an audience. Unfortunately, I wish
we did not yet. So so you know, so, so who do
you have on the production team, you know, help helping you guys out.
Well, I mean, this one is a bit smaller. The budget's
a bit bigger than Carosil two and three. But since we have more characters
and more locations, you know, I'm doing a lot more hands on than
I have on like other films. So I'll probably be shooting most of it.
But there's a couple of guys I'm talking to that may come on for
that. Mike Trablcock is back to do the score, of course, you
know, because he is phenomenal. He is a He did the music for
the teaser trailer. Already. Alien is playing Holly, the lead. I'm
playing Jay, her love interest, simply because of it makes sense because We're
going to be part of the project the whole time. And also again it's
like a nice version of Ambi Bouk critification. We're in that movie. We
fell in love in this movie. We do not spoilers. She does,
I do not. Cody Rook is back for effects. I've already talked to
Cody at length on the kills and gave them the list of everything we're doing.
Unlike a couple of the movies that I've done where I'm kind of like,
Cody, come up with what you want, this time we came up
with very specifically what we wanted for each kill because I really wanted to do
a bunch of different stuff that we haven't done before, a couple of things
that I know will be more simple, and also keep the Christmas theme for
as many kills as possible. So there's a there's a couple just knife gags,
don't get me wrong, But there's also like say, an icicle and
candy canes uh and that sort of thing. I have to say it,
Like you know, I watched I watch a decent amount of to B and
like you know, an Msung Prime and stuff I've I've always been a fan
of, like you know, of of indie horror, indie sci fi,
but one one, but one thing that that that does kind of bug me.
And I know we've mentioned this on ATMs before, which is when like,
you know, when there's an obvious like you know, kill pun and
they just like, you know, let it pass, And yeah, I
I trust you not to do that. I will say Holly is not quite
as punny as Duke is. But we're going to lit things, how do
I put it? Let things breathe. We're definitely not just going to do
something and skip over without any acknowledgment of how insane it is. Awesome.
Yeah, she's definitely not as quick be she's a little more. She's more
broken as a person. Love she's justified, but she's also yeah, she's
a broken person. So she can't come up with the quick one liners,
but will address everything that happens with someone or other in the movie. It's
hard to ask questions without some spoilers, but let me ask this, and
if it is a spoiler and you can't say it, like she does she
come in this? Is she like you know, pretty much already a serial
killer or is this something that just kind of drives her over the edge.
This was something Eleene and I actually disagreed on it. First. Aleen was
saying that she shouldn't have started killing until like after the movie started. I
argued against that, and I won, but for business reasons, not because
she was necessarily wrong. To me, Holly has killed before. She has
been killing because I wanted the movie to start with the kill immediately, because
I'll spoil the opening of the film. The very opening is that very tropy
Christmas rom com where the main lead lady has a shitty boyfriend that doesn't care
about Christmas. Oh, he's going on vacation with the guys on Christmas Eve.
He's not taken her to meet his parents. So she snaps and fucking
murders him after this like very trophy setup, And to me, it was
really important to like have that super tropy Christmas rom com setup, like,
oh, it's this prick doing this and then she brually stabs him dozens of
times in the chest with her cheese knife and ruins, so she needs to
go buy new curtains for Christmas. In your head canon, is that the
first kill or is that just number he's done this? Yeah, this is
not her first boyfriend she had. And I say that, and I think
this is in a good way not to back the man in the situation,
but it's one of those. Otherwise your character is their first killed. There's
gonna be a spindle orderament at least in books anyway, and an amount of
time you've got to like deal with the psychological gratifications of being the first kill.
You know, can I do it again? Should I do it?
And blah blah blah blah. I suppose to something go back like day like
Serial Mom, Like no, no, this is just something that is just
part of the dark echo that sits in the back of the head the entire
time is ready to come out as necessary, or you could always just big
trouble in Little China, China. It's like the first time you kill somebody,
of course not. I mean she does have her own voice of consciousness,
her own conscience if you will. That she discusses some of these ideas
with throughout the film. It lets me so she's been working it out,
you can tell before the movie begins. I'd like to think this is like
a string of specifically every guy that hasn't worked out to be at the Hallmark
Christmas romance level for her. So as soon as they disappoint her, they're
just they're done. She's got to start over. I do think this is
her biggest massacre. I'll say that before this, I think I agree with
Elid. Up to this point, she's just been killing like boyfriends that were
bad and like worked good for the season and we're good for her. But
this is the first time when she's killing a lot of other people. Conscience
is fantastic because it was a small idea that Elaine had that she was just
like, Oh, wouldn't it be fun if like this showed up? And
then I said, uh, okay, And then I started writing the script
and I like text of her because I think she was working on a show
at the time, and I started just writing. I was just like,
this has now become one of the leading characters of the whole film. Like
I gotta I gotta say, you know, it's not my favorite John,
but I've seen enough Hallmark, like you know, Christmas movies where in my
head I heavily rewritten them to be like this is about the time that like,
you know, this person deserves to like die or so so this this,
this, this is this. This is why I'm excited for this because
you know, it does kind of feel like one of those one of those
ideas that I can see play out in my mind when I'm like well,
sitting there, sitting there watching these going why isn't this movie fucking over here?
I suone just got an ax. This movie would get a shitload better,
you know. So yeah, that's that is the intent. I mean,
this is one of one of our favorite things that we've written because it
is a combination of a lot of stuff that we love. You know.
It is basically Amniville Christmas Vacation plus cares Hell. You know, it is
two of the things that we are peak at and a little dash of Miawi
Christmas with the you know, the cheesy Christmas fake movie in it. So
like it is, it's almost the greatest hits in terms of what we've already
done. But it's again, it's an original take. It's an original concept
for us. I mean, I don't mean we came up with Christmas rom
coms horror comedies that take place a Christmas time, but it's nice and it's
refreshing, you know, to do something original again after years of like sequels,
and adaptations that I've kind of been doing, so that part of it
excites me a lot. And it this is Mike Treublcock said this, and
he out right said, this isn't an insult, Steve, I mean this
in a good way. But he read the script and he said that he
loved it. But he also said that it's probably my most mainstream accessible script,
Like this is going to be the movie that the most new people would
probably watch it at joy. Whereas you got to have a special kind of
like weird to be into the Carousel trilogy. You do need to have a
special sense of humor for Shingles the movie and the books. Yeah, of
course I didn't make those though. So this is the movie that propels Stephen
Alean to like new heights to the point where we like we call them and
be like, hey, you want to be on the podcast. You're like,
who are you? Click? Who's my fucking number? Click? I
don't think that, but I do think we will get more purchases, that's
all. But it'd be nice to have something like new and fresh that anyone
could find it and immediately be signed on for. And yeah, it is
one of those things where if you like Christmas movies or like seeing Christmas movies
parodied, and you like horror comedies. This is going to be perfect.
I think that we did a fantastic job lending like those two flavors into the
I really like what we did. If we get to make it, it
will make no news because Terrifier three is also Christmas movie coming out this year,
so I'm fucked. But I think it's gonna be a slow bird for
people to find it after the fact. If that's the case, well,
I mean people who like Christmas movies, I think they. I mean I
know my wife will put on Polar Express anytime during the year. Yes,
so yeah, means all the movies that one. I'm kidding. I have
never seen the Polar Express Christmas or that's a movie I've written in my head.
It'll be our movie will be sandwiched on all the servers when you're searching
between like oranges for Christmas, shoelaces for Christmas, a dog for Christmas,
and then curtains. You know, if I can always for the people that
watch it by accident, like I'm gonna have to have once spatter in the
dismembered hand in our thumbnail, and I know people are still going to miss
that. Yeah. I was just you might want to, like, you
know, what was it the original Deadpool? How they were originally like trying
to push this as like a romantic comedy, you know, to get people
in for Valentine's Yea, yeah it was February. It was the Valentine's Day
release. Yeah, it's out there for on Kickstarter. Yeah, if you
folks want to do a Kickstarter. I mean, the goal of the Kickstarter
is fourteen thousand dollars. That is the bare minimum that we need in order
to make the film as envisioned with what we have budgeted for the effects,
for the amount of actors, for the locations. And how long is the
kickstarter going through? It is going I mean right now, this isn't live
right. When is this episode going up? Probably next week? Okay,
so there are two weeks left, guys. It is It ends either on
the twenty ninth or on March first. I forget which because it's the leapier.
So I'm all screwed up. There's there's twenty eight there's twenty eight days,
twenty nine days in February this Yearah, I just forget exactly like when
I want. Yeah, so either the twin So let's just say February twenty
ninth is the last day. So no on Dilly Dally's on it. We
have. You know, we got a lot of great perks. We sold
out of the die in the movie within five seconds. Like always, I
should have written more roles into the film to kill people. We would have
already met gold. Silly me. But you know you can just get a
digital copy DVD Blu Ray special. Thanks. We have an exclusive Christmas card
that'll be a photo of Jay and Holly that we will sign in hand number.
We're gonna do a fun not a huge deal, not like the slip
cover for the Carousel trilogy, but we're gonna do all a unique Kickstarter exclusive
Blu Ray case which would be horizontal so that you can you know, display
it as if it's a Christmas card with Jay and Holly on it. And
you know, of course like the big executive producer credit if you want to
swing your dick around and claim that you are a big shot producer and what
made this movie exist? All right, I got a stretch idea for you.
That's that's that postcard you were talking about Jay and Holly, but make
it kind of like one of those holograms where you like, you turn it
and it becomes a different, like, you know image that's particular. That
would be cool, that would be amazing. We do have a first time
perk. We are actually also including I am I'm giving away. I'm not
giving away, I'm perk rewarding one of my screen warm costumes from the movie,
which I usually keep all my wardrobes because I love them very much and
I like to just have them all lined up in my closet. But yeah,
so one of my sweater dresses that's very festive and we'll be blood soaked
by the end of the movie. We will be up for grabs, I
believe it is. There's only one of them, so whoever grabs it up,
it will get it. And that's pretty cool for for something different.
So if it's not ghost ask what percenters are you at now in the Kickstarter
Right now we are at forty four percent, so we're not we're not it
halfway yet. We're we're trucking, but you know, we definitely hit the
wall. That's the problem with Kicksert. I'm not going to be optimistic yet
I'm not saying to people I'm not casting, I'm not sitting a schedule yet,
because I'll this could be it probably. I know, you make most
of your money on like the first day and the last day, and we're
in the middle. So I'm trying to push it. I'm trying to get
people to pre order blue rays, to kind of take it up little by
little. We have a long way to go, that's the only problem,
because again, if we are short, movie doesn't get made. This is
not indiegog, this is not Oh, if we get a grand we'll put
something together. Like No, this is all or nothing. I do not
feel comfortable making curtains for Christmas for less than the money we will get from
this fourteen thousand dollars Kickstarter after Kickstarter takes their fees. So obviously you did
some filming for the trailer, which I again we saw and I encourage all
the viewers and listeners to go and see it and just judge for yourself,
because it's it's fucking cool. What percentage of the film would you say you've
already shot just to get the trailer? Is it just like a couple of
days worth, like a couple of days yeah, a couple of days worth.
It's it's one it's the sequence where Holly meets Jay for the first time
in the store or when she's shopping for curtains. That's probably the biggest chunk
that we shot. And then we shot another sequence where it's after Holly meets
with Jay, you know, the next day for peppermint hot coco a Holly's
hot chocolate which he's never had and Jay can't believe that, where you find
out more about Jay's backstory and like it keeps lining up with the love interest
from a cheesy Christmas so it is just like Holly's perfect man. So it's
like one of my monologues. We shot that in the mall with like this
great Christmas backdrop that's in the trailer. You know, you can see the
Sandons behind Holly and Jay. That's what'll be shot. And then just the
sequence when we're out in the snow making snow angels and we also wanted to
get and that's only like like a minute long that but like that's what we
got so far. It isn't much. It's maybe five full minutes of the
movie and the movie should be about Uh, it's hard to tell my script
blenks never make sense compared to my movie lengths. But the script is about
as long as caras Hel two and cares Hell two is seventy seven minutes long.
Sok, this could be anywhere from seventy to eighty minutes, and we
shot five so far. Okay, I'm just gonna say you, for those
of you listen to this podcast at home, now pause this shit and go
like it, and go like, you know, support this. You can
always come back to listen to the rest of us, like you know,
you've heard enough. You should be sold on this. Please please, I'd
appreciate it. We appreciate it. Alene, would you like to say anything
about how you're going to play Holly, because you are going to be carrying
this movie on your shoulders basically in terms of performance, Like the whole movie
follows Holly the whole time, and no point do we cut away from Holley
unless it's for like a second. Yeah. Sure. First of all,
it's really nice to like return to some on screen work. Over the years,
as we've continued making movies, I've fallen more into like a behind the
scenes tech organizing, you know, line producing job. So I'm really grateful
to be bringing Holly to life. I think she is. She kind of
has two feels, two vibes. The first is anytime she's talking to Jay,
she kind of slides very easily into her I'm the lead in a Christmas
movie, so everything has to be cheery all the time, and I'm going
to be overly sweet. And then when she's all by herself, some of
that act sort of fades away and you see more of the real Holly.
And then as the desperation grows and things aren't going her way, she'll become
more and more unhinged, which is really great. It gets you really get
to run the gambit of you know, sweet and romantic all the way through
terrifying hopefully if you liked Carousel too, and how evil Ilsa could be torturing
a tiny unicorn. This is not exactly that flavor. But you know that
I can do dark, so we're gonna go there. It's gonna be real
fun and no accents either, which is great. Oh, there will be
a couple accents at a certain point of this. Okay. Oh, and
we forgot to mention, but of course we do have Jessa Flux attached to
be in the film, she's playing one of the people that Holly kidnaps to
play one of her siblings, and Jessa was very excited about this. We're
paying Jessa her right to be clear, she's not doing charity, but she
practically begged it to be in this movie after she read the script. So
we're very excited to get her back on and she's going to do a fantastic
job again if he listeners at home have watched Shingles the movie. If you
haven't, you should. But Jessa was like one of the funniest people in
that movie. She's hilarious to have on set. We gave her a bit
part in Carousel three just because we liked working with her, Like we knew
that role was kind of under her and we explained to her, but she
was like, no, that's cool, and it was just, you know,
a joy to have her on set. So this time she's back to
having like a real substantial role where she plays a character the whole time.
No, I'm glad to hear that because like from from all from all the
things like I had heard on like you know, on like you know,
the Shingles said, it's sounds like you guys got along really well. It
was the first time we worked with her too, but she was a pro.
And again just I would be crying laughing at her deliveries, but her
and Blake, but like Jessa nailed that the character zip zip beyond belief.
Oh sorry. She actually just referred to us recently as her Pittsburgh family and
one of her posts about the movie, so she feels like whenever she comes
to Pittsburgh to shoot, we're mom and Pop. Like not in a weird
way, but like that's that's we're the fame her dad here. I love
it. Yeah, you're daddy. I'm like Zaddy. But like it's really
cool to know that she feels so comfortable here when she's visiting from out of
town to shoot with us. That's the question, where you guys located so
you can actually get snow because I'm just south View in Maryland and we get
nothing. So but we got no snow last year. That's why I was
saying, like I hope we get something. And this year we actually had
snow on the ground twice, right, And the first time is when we
got the shot because like, I wasn't gonna roll the dice on a better
snow day. And we did get a better snow day. But it's fine.
We got what we needed. We we might have had to drive up
to Erie or New York like if we didn't get snow in our area like
we were outright planet like, we might have to do a like a four
to six hour car drive in January if we don't get snow. But fortunately
we did, so it was just in my backyard. That's cool, all
right. So so the hope, the hope here is that is that some
new eyeballs are going to like, you know, be be like you know,
watching this like episode or so. So in terms of your other movies,
if somebody is if somebody is brand new to uh to this, to
the Ridzinsky universe or the Ridzinsky Verse, where should uh, where should they
start? I mean I always go with, you know, the cares Held
trilogy or at least Carousel one. I think it's a great way to get
a good flavor of what we do. It's fun, it's funny. And
then if you like Carosel one, you get like part two and three immediately
you can get the whole story. You get a whole arc for these characters,
for this world, all this Lord world building, and you can see
the insanity that I have when I write schlocky, micro budget horror comedy movies,
to the point where many fans told me that they were crying in Carousel
three while watching it, which you wouldn't expect from a movie series about a
sentient killer Carousel Unicorn, But that's what you get with Steve Razinski. After
the caras Hell's I would say it's either if you want an if you like
anthologies and you do want to sit down for a couple of hours, I
do suggest Shingles the movie. I think we did a really good job with
it. I'm proud of that movie. I think it's a real fun time
And if you want something a little shorter, if you want to see more
of my love for Christmas, then I do say ambiville critsification, even though
it's like a two day, three hundred dollar a movie that I shot as
a joke, and yet it has gotten me more pressed than anything in my
fucking life. Well I am, I am obviously a biased audience, but
like so, after the initial thing of Shingles came out, like actually actually
recently, when I sat down to watch Carousel three. I finished that,
and like, I think they were both on like I forget to probably to
be or so Shingles were right next to him. I was like, I
haven't watched this one, but let me let me do that. And personally,
I think aged ages pretty well, you know, like I was,
I was like, you know, some some of the jokes I was still
I was still laughing at even though like you know, we wrote the goddamn
jokes. Yeah, I left on my own jokes. So don't take any
shame to that. Bevin, what's your what's what's your favorite movie that I
have made? Tell me about me? Uh, I've seen Carousel one and
Shingles. So of those two, which one do you like more that you
didn't write Prousel one? Ok? There you go. So there's Bevin saying
clearly, I mean, I mean, you should you should put you should
put that like endorsement on the DVDs right there. But yeah, like I
mean, I'm glad though I made Shingles with you guys. You know,
I thought that was a great experience and I'm super super glad that keeps getting
discovered. I might be on a special dealt on on podcast this Saturday because
they were just posting about like, oh, we're doing like a big goosebumps
thing and I just posted the trailer for Shingles. They were like, can
you come on the show and talk about this? So I'm still pushing it
too. I want you guys to know that I haven't stopped, Like obviously
I also was pushing Carousel three. But I'm a multi purpose whore. I've
felt this story before. But i mean, really it comes down to,
like, you know, we we sat down and did Carousel as an ATM
one of her at the Movies things, and I'll were we were planning to
really just rip it apart, we thought, and it was so friggin good.
That's why we reached out to you and we're like, we just sat
and watched it. Yeah, it was probably our most boring eight to them
because we weren't talking. I'm glad it's so surreal and cool and I know
you guys can connect to this ass creators yourselves. But like like years later,
seeing new people still discover these things and like loving them, and like,
especially now that I have a trilogy, like there's been like I've been
sharing with Eleen every time it happens. But like there'll be someone that just
discovers Carousel one on a whim and then within the next week they already have
reviews for two and three on letter box, and you know, like some
of them like one and three but not two or one and two, not
three, or two and three but not one as much, or like they
love them all. Like it's but it's so wonderful to just see these random
people that just are just like, what's this and they're like, Okay,
let's else keep going. But the other thing is, I mean, we
brought we had Jo Hunt. You were a great guest. And the thing
that's the thing I absolutely love the most was when we said when like Steve
sent you the first draft of Shingles the movie, I kind of expected when
you were like, hey, let's talk about it. When when we brought
John, it was just gonna be like, yeah, it was just like
a conversation. You came back with the entire fucking business plan like like you
like you treated it seriously. And I'll be honest if I want to,
I one kind of expected like us to just be blown off along the lines
of yeah, this is cute and stuff, but just just that alone was
just so friggin cool, like like I got like, I don't know Bob
remembers not, but we got off the call with that, and I was
just like, holy shit, like that than anyone has ever put into a
Shingles project, then any of us put into it into a Shingles project.
Yeah, and I got more than half the series. I gotta tested that
only because like I joined Authors and Dragon this this year. I was a
guest before. I was like on a podcast like like a year and a
half ago whatever, like someone one of their fans like my books, is
like, hey, get this guy on and I, you know, did
a site. I just did it, you know, an interview, sidequest,
blah blah blah. Rick was nice off to stay on with me for
another thirty forty minutes after just to shoot the shit a little bit, and
it was very nice. And he told me about this thing. He's like,
so we watched do these at the movies? You should join us one
time. So we did this thing. It was like we're getting a movie.
He made him like, what are you talking about? It's like,
okay, if you read some of our Shingles Books'm like, yeah, I
read a first couple. He's like, so this guy Zinsky carries out but
he's like a little kid, Like it's so excited and like the hype levels
so and I came to the first con in twenty twenty three. That was
my first time, and I met you guys there, Like I I was
still divorced from all that because I hadn't been in this ecosystem yet. But
Steve was fucking giddy and like like he tells you now, it's like it's
it's he's actually way chill now versus the time he told me before. And
it's like, but it was, but it's such a love of you can
cletely see the love that like they have working with you, and it shows
through into the work. And like I know the fans reacted, so you
know, I think that's just very cool that the dynamic still exists. You
know, I've never ridden a shingles and I feel like I'm got fucked out
of this somehow, but it doesn't matter. Well, I'm happy to be
like part of this family, you know. Again, like thanks for reaching
out to me to begin with h and of course I took it seriously.
This is what I do, you know, and you guys came to me
with basically your baby, So I'm going to give it as much attention as
I would give one of my own projects. You know, that's the point,
that's what you needed me if we were But also I'm passionate in care
and you know, hopefully Shingles makes a profit. Let's do Shingles two down
the road. You know, I'm game. Just let me know, And
that's not an obligation. I know what's selling an independent movie is like,
but you guys had a pretty good streaming first few months. I'll say that
no details for the fans, but it was very impressive. Yeah, we're
such fucking morons. I know you were like you were like, hey,
stupid, you might want to like actually like withdraw the money that they owe.
Yeah, I let Rick know. And then months later I reached out
to Stevens said, hey, so I'll let Rick know. But I was
just looking because I like to compare the numbers. I like to see like
where it's at, like what months are doing better, what months are doing
worse. I do it with my own movies too. I asked permission if
I do Shingles, and I got the okay, But I saw that the
money was still just fucking sitting there. You know, the entirety of authors
and drugs. We're kind of like an orange cat, you know, like
we passed around and you never know who's who's gonna have that one part of
the brain and any given time. Yeah, to be and to be clear,
it's I'm making the guys rich or anything. Like I saw the number.
It ain't making anybody rich, but it was a decent enough chunk of
change from streaming that it was just like, hey, you guys made as
well as pocket something from this fucking movie. People have been watching it as
a good like rating on IMDb. You know, it's it's only Carousel three
is the higher rating than shingles of my films, at least of the ones
that have like a good amount of ratings, kind of the ones that have
like fifteen ratings, because those aren't fair. But yeah, I mean people,
some people really like it. And then again is that thing where you
get the casuals or like the normies for the lack of a better term,
that don't expect that sense of humor and clearly they don't dry with them.
I love seeing everyone's different, Like the letterbox reviews, how almost every review
has like a different story that they just fucking hate. It always cracks me
up, and like, that's what an anthology is, that's what's always gonna
happen. But I always just get cracked up about that. So many people
seem to really dislike Aliens wrect Arkagger and that's my favorite, the guy who
made the fucking movie. So I mean, but we're already talking about that.
Rick, I have terrible taste in films, So maybe I don't know
what good is what one day, one day we have to leave, you
know, we have to sit down and just like do a podcast where we
just go through movies that like one of us loves and the other hates and
just and just just just like just spend an hour to be talking about that
shit. I'd be gaming for that, right. Let me know, we
can make a special bonus episode for this that you upload on like a day
you usually don't upload. You can just be me and you were you,
you and a couple to get other guys. You know what we do.
We do specially we do these uh these recordings called Mimic Chest that are just
for our discord. That would probably be a perfect a perfect one perfect Can
we make it like a debate club structure for real, where you each have
to have like points to get counterpoints against each other. That's too official,
you know you know that that sounds like a lean volunteering to be the moderator.
Okay, yeah, I think I'm quiet. It sounds like, yeah,
Bob, Bob has seen like he's seen Carousel, Shingles and Bram Stoker's
Dracula. And those are only three movies you've ever seen? Bad? True?
All right? Well, I mean well, speaking of movies, I
mentioned this Steve earlier as a potential idea, but it makes sense here is
now that we're talking about it. And to further support the whole Curtains for
Christmas concept, support on Kickstarter today. Please, for the love of God,
you don't get charged until the campaign ends, so don't wait to your
getting paid. There's no reason to What is everyone's favorite Christmas movie? Let's
start with you, Gibbeh. I always have the joke answer of Diehard because
I still love that because it's set at Christmas like that, but is a
Christmas movie? Like I always defend that to my days. But most people
that say it is their favorite of just being contrary. So last year,
but so last year, this and this is there was a new reason.
This is my new number one. My son who's twelve now but last year
was eleven. H because it's he's gonna December birthday. I took him to
see his first R rated movie. We went and saw A Violent Night together
and he I had some friends checking out earlier, like like he's aware of
nudy and sex, like that was just violence, hyper violence and language.
That's he said. He's eleven year old, he plays video games. He's
perfectly okay with this. And he sat there like white knuckling it and the
things like am I allowed to be in here? Like, dude, it's
cool, it's cool, it's cool. Don't worry you hear the adult you
hear then adult. He's like, okay, but but seriously, hunker down.
I want the cops kits. He's what, I'm gonna just fuck with
you. And so he sat there and like just all just all watching Santa
Claus go like Viking ham on these motherfuckers in a clearly homage to die Hard
that this movie is so because of the bomb between my son Violent Knight,
I can't we watch it every Christmas now is as a habit. I mean,
it's a it's a new film. But I think that's a great choice
because it's a good movie and what makes that movie work, in my opinion,
I'm gonna comment on all of your answers, by the way, because
as the Christmas Wizard here, the King of Christmas, what makes Violent Night
work so effectively is that it takes Christmas seriously. It's that sort of thing
that I do with Amityville, where like, yeah, it's this silly,
over the top, hyper violent action movie, but it's also a Christmas movie.
It's about the themes of Christmas. It's about the essence of what Christmas
is in the purpose of it, and that's what makes that film so powerful.
I love Violent Night. It is definitely also one of my favorites.
Very quickly, Like I walked out of that theater saying like, it's like
they made that for me. That was that what I felt like, Yeah,
because I said that the Diehard references when the little girl gets to be
al pal and the walkie talkie and talking through all these things and when he's
at when he's at his low points, she's there to like believe in him
and he just so. And yes, the hyperviolence is is wonderful. So
and Harvard did a great job. So yeah, I love that for that.
Yeah, I think that's probably David Harvard's best acting performance. Agreed.
Yeah, Rick, I'm just going in order of what's on my screen,
all right, So it's not really a movie. My favorite Christmas special has
got to be the original cartoon of Grinch that' stow Christmas, Okay, because
it's it's a Chuck Jones cartoon and it's like much like the Bugs Bunny cartoons
at the time. There's so many kind of like little almost like inside jokes
as part of it that even though it's a kid's cartoon, there's like a
lot that appeals to an adult movie. Wise, Violent Night is really good,
but just from a schlocky standpoint, just because I just find it to
be the most hilarious fucking thing. Silent Knight, Deadly Knight always cracks me
the fuck up for no reason, like there was an explicit reason. But
I've never seen that movie until last year. I don't know why. I
love Christmas, I love horror. I just had never seen Silent I Deadly
Night, so I bought all five on Blu Ray and we had a marathon.
Have you seen any of the sequels? I saw one of the sequels,
Okay, I haven't seen the Red five is fantastic, Like I will
watch one and five every year. I love Garbage Day and two. I
love Garbage Day in two. But if you guys at home have not seen
Silentine Deadly Night Part two, seventy percent of that movie is Silent and Deadly
Night Part one because it's the little brother just telling the story of the movie,
and there's like so little new stuff. It drives me crazy. I
love the new stuff, but there's not enough of it. And like just
the first scene of that first movie where he goes and visits his grandpa in
the asylum, and like the Grundpy just like I remember the first time I
saw that, I almost I almost like couldn't breathe laughing. It was just
so over the top hilarious. I mean when we first watched it again that
like my first time seeing it was last year, I was saying to Aline
almost the whole time, like I'm actually impressed at how good this is,
Like this is a legitimately really good slasher horror movie. You know, it's
got the evil non trope. It's got like such a great like like it
has a trigger that's based on like trauma. That makes sense. I I
love Silent and Deadly Night one and also great. It's also great because it's
so over the top of like you know, of they're taking this guy who
obviously hates Christmas and just putting him into the worst scenarios possible. Yes,
he's consistently getting stuff with the Christmas shit. One fun thing about part two,
I will give this this compliment. So there's a scene again this is
for the folks at home now you've seen the fucking movie. There's a scene
where a man is attempting rape on a woman and the killer actually saves her,
and she has a very negative reaction to this that confused me while watching
the film, Like he kills the rapist violently, don't get me wrong,
but she like is treating him worse than the man that was about to do
a horrible crime to her. In the sequel, the same thing happens,
except the woman is extremely thankful and it was like so refreshing. It was
like hell, yeah, yeah, murder rapists five out of five. Let's
go, yeah, there, there's there's a what's what's the movie? Uh
uh? Each of the Killer where where it's a similar scene like that where
like, you know, the main the main hero slash bad guy saves a
woman and she just like for some reason just treats him like like shit,
and it's just like, huh, all right, Bob bad Center, that's
him. Okay, not even a contest that that is a film that I
definitely you know, like I mean, I was a kid when that came
out, so I saw that like immediately because of course it was edge Lord
Christmas humor. It was exactly right for the age period that I was.
But Billy Bob gives a heartfelt performance to that film. Yeah, Like especially
like when he is crawling to the door at the end full of bullets a
little bit toy, like it is heart wrenching, like it is insane.
Like that movie is very much a edge Lord, you know, potty humor
comedy film, and that's neat. I was thinking about that the whole time.
You were describing Curtains for Christmas as like a mix of a Christmas movie
and a horror and you know that scene in particular, it really blends those
two very well. It does, and again, like that, that's what
makes a good Christmas movie, especially when you're combining different genres, is taking
the Christmas part seriously. And again I'm probably taking that more seriously as a
Christmas guy myself, you know, caring so deeply about the season. But
like, Bad Santa would not work if Billy Bob wasn't risking his life to
deliver a toy to a kid because the kid deserves it. That's what makes
the whole thing come together. Otherwise it would just be like, oh yeah,
Santa sat fu. But like that ending is I could live with that
though, I mean, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say it's bad,
but like, I don't think it would be a classic. I take that
back, I don't think I could live with it because I saw a Bad
Santa too and it was fucking shit. I never saw the sequel, so
I'm glad I haven't. You don't have to, Okay, good it didn't
happen, so you get to see you guys. Difference. The difference was
the heart. Oh god, I've been steering back and forth during this entire
conversation because the longest running favorite of mine was Christmas Vacation like National Lampoon's Christmas
Vacation. My family grew up watching that together. My dad that's his favorite
movie. It's my sister's favorite movie to quote, and Steve and I have
a tradition where every year when we decorate our live Christmas tree, we always
always decorate it to that movie. So it has a lot of really good
memories for me. But on the other hand, I'm obsessed with Jingle all
the way and could probably do that whole movie too, so I can't.
I can't pick, So it's those together. Oh, before I forgive Brick,
did you realize that the original cartoon of The Grinch has a prequel?
It's a Halloween special. No, I did not know that. Just found
that out. Grand Night for Eyebrows. It's a good Night for teeth.
Yeah, it's like Halloween's Grinch Night and it's a prequel to to The Grinch,
like it's in It's You should watch it if you're a fan of that
original show and it's on YouTube for free. Oh, I'll google google that.
I need to see that too now. The only it's stupid complaint,
Like I think I was high or drunk when we watched it, but I
was like screaming at the screen at the end because like Max stands up for
himself and like fights back against a grinch. But it's a prequel, so
I'm like, this doesn't make any sense, as is working for him again
in a couple of months at Christmas time? What the fuck? But like,
other than that, the special was a joy, Like I loved it,
Dave. It's a classic abusive relationship. Yes it's exactly what it was.
Yeah, but I never know it existed until this past October, and
like it very impressed me. Like it was very impressive. So I meant
to say it to you before I moved on to Bob. But I'm glad
I got it out. Okay. My answer is three because there are three
different aspects of Christmas, and that's why I have three different favorites, the
aspect of family and working together and dealing with family at the holidays, because
that's what matters. Christmas Vacation, which is my favorite movie period. If
you ask me what my favorite movie is, it is Christmas Vacation. I
think it is a perfect film. I think it does everything so well.
It is a comedy that makes me laugh no matter how many times I've seen
it. It is so full of heart. Everything is shot beautifully, everything
is performed beautifully. It's an amazing film. And it is about the family
aspect of Christmas. And that's why I love that so much too. Jingo
all the way for the commercialism aspect of Christmas and the whole idea of people
thinking that they can undo being a bad person or in this case, a
bad parent by getting someone a gift, something physical, which is the antithysis,
the antithesis, antithesis of what Christmas actually means, you know, where
it's about actually caring and love and support. But Arnold Schwarzenegger is so focused
on if I get this toy, everything's fine, as well as the battle
with that, and I love that a lot. I love Jingo all the
way, and I respect the hell out of the fact that it's a very
serious, grounded movie. And then in the final act that just say fuck
it's superpowers are real? Yeah, Like, how does that get greenlit?
I love that it did. But but the third place, not third place,
but my third number one. And it is about the magic of Christmas.
This is about the magic of Santa, is about the the pure the
concept of giving the concept of caring about other people, and that is Ernest
Saves Christmas. I love Ernest Says Christmas. I think it is a joy.
I think it is. It is that live action cartoon that I love
so much that I've taken a lot of my style from as a director.
Uh. It has Earnest being like just such a genuine good person. It
has that concept of believing in other people and trusting other people because they rewards
you more than you think. And it has my favorite live action Santa Claus
in a movie. I love Santa Claus and ernestas Christmas. And I've been
crying for years for a physical Blu Ray release of Ernes Stays Christmas. That
Disney keeps that shit locked and I got damn fault. All we have is
a shitty DVD from the nineties that they keep reprinting. And I know they
have an HD SCAR because it's on Prime Video for three ninety nine and it's
on Disney Plus. I want to own that physically. Please. I pray
that some boutique label like picks up a few Touchstone Picture films and earn a
safe Christmas is one of those, because I I want to own that because
it's so important to me. It is so important to me, and I
keep on expecting that I will be let down for the rest of my life.
By the way, I found that that Grinch, that Grinch prequel,
So I'm sending myself an email to watch it tomorrow. Oh yeah, well,
I mean I need to find that now too. I think my my
literally just go to YouTube and type in Grinch prequel. That's that's exactly my
plan, I think, my backup. What it's not even here's the thing,
it's not even a Christmas movie, but it's one of the Like again,
it's like, it just means me. What's it's the animated Rise of
the Guardians. That depiction of Santa Claus, that animated flick gets me every
single time because it's the It obviously takes place in the winter. It takes
place at winter time, you know, and the Jack Frost character and we
find out the history of the past. But I love that depiction of Santa
as like this big jelly, naughty, nice tattoo forum guys, but still
has the eyes of a child, you know, and that that that you
know, no matter how worldly, is a matter just damage there as he
still wants to like see things as a child with wonderment and belief, and
like I love that depiction. Santa Claus is my favorite fictional character. There's
no kids listen to this right, Uh, but it's like Santa is real
in our hearts. But though Santa is like my favorite character, like everything
that he personifies, everything that he stands for, and everything that he does.
So like I'm very critical of Santa interpretations in movies, Like I fucking
hate Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer because that Santa is a piece of shit and
that is not what Santa is at all. That special has nothing is the
against everything Christmas is. I will drunkenly yell about Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer
for hours if he lit me. I feel the same way about the Santa
from the other the just the elphan wants to be a dent Uh Yeah,
it's same same Sanna. I don't wanna I don't wanna make toys. I
don't play with teeth. You just wants to be a dentist. You wants
to be a good dentist. It's cool, like almost like like almost like
universally, the movie Elf is beloved, and I can't stand that fucking movie.
I'm not a fan of ELF. I don't hate it, but it's
just like, like it's the first one that I rewatched it this past year
because Aleen loves it, but like I hadn't watched it for years because I
just had no drive to And then when I watched it with Alieno, she
was like, yeah, this is fine. I think it was just too
much time where Buddy's dad doesn't believe Buddy is a sun, and I feel
like there's a lot of waste of time at that point. If it wasn't
for that, I think I liked the movie a lot more, but that
isn't the movie. But then other people like that, so like I'm not
saying I'm right or that's what makes the movie. That's what makes the movie
bad. But that's why I don't connect with it as much as say,
like Eleen again because she loves that and we finally own it. ELF is
the best Christmas musical that exists as far as like stage plays. If I
have to watch one more production of White Christmas, I'm gonna gouge my eyes
out. Like theaters only have four Easter shows, they do and they only
have about four or five Christmas shows and they all do the same shows.
And of all the Christmas musicals I've seen, Elf, by far has the
best musical numbers and the most suscinct version of the plot of that movie.
It helps with cutting away some of that time that Steve says is wasted in
the movie. And it's really great and I want to do it again.
All right, So we're we're just past the hour mark here, so probably
about time to wrap up. So this is the time to really hammer hammer
that shit home. Tell us where should people go, where should they spend
their money as if they're hearing it for the first time, because you know
exactly general cell of our stuff silverspotlifilms dot com. That is our web store.
That is our website. That is where you can buy everything that I've
made on DVD or Blu Ray, except for Shingles that's over on shingles themovie
dot com. But you know, we got all of my films on there,
all my features, my shorts on there. That's where you can get
everything. That's the best way to support when we able to have our deck
building games on there, including Shingles the movie. The game and cares how
the deck building game with the Miowy expansion. That that is the best way
to support us because that is the money coming directly to us. You know,
there is no middleman aside from like PayPal fees or something, so that
is we get I shift the movies myself most of the time, not always.
Sometimes I shift directly from the manufacturer, but the money's coming right to
us, and that way you own the film forever. You can do whatever
you want with that disc. I don't care, don't upload a torn but
to do whatever you want with that movie. And we get a lot of
bonose features. We've got a lot of options, a lot of great box
arts. I take that very seriously. If you don't want to spend you
know, twenty fifty hundreds of dollars in all the movies. There second best
way to support us stevebuster dot com. That is my Patreon. For as
low as two ninety nine a month, you get access to my entire modern
film library, and that includes a couple of shorts that we made exclusively for
Steve Buster. But then at the four ninety nine mark, you get a
bunch of my old stuff that I don't make or sell on physical media anymore
because I hate the movies and they're it's super embarrassing. But my fans wanted
them because they hate me, so they're on the service, including me drunkenly
watching them whilst talking about how bad they are. But also like every bonus
feature that I've ever made for physical media is on the four ninety nine tier.
All of my old stuff is on the four ninety nine tier. Other
exclusive stuff is on the four ninety nine tier that isn't available anywhere else,
Like Bill Murphy and I did a two hour long retrospective discussion about the Miowi
movies, which is super interesting when we get into like how we broke them
and all the references and stuff. And that's just on Steve Buster. And
of course you get access to my discord at the four ninety nine teer and
you can unsubscribe after a month and stay in the discord. I don't care.
And similarly, you can subscribe for a month and just bookmark all of
the movie links. You can keep all of the links from Steve Buster forever
even if you unsubscribe. I don't mind. I support that. All I
ask is to not share it. So for five bucks, you support us
directly and get like I think the two nine to nine tier is like twenty
five hours of content and the five dollars tier or something like forty hours of
content total. So that's the second best way to support us. And of
course if you don't want to spend any money because the economy is rough,
I get it. You know, it's twenty twenty four. I've looked outside
all of my library, all my features, I should say, all my
features are on to B TV. So if you go to two B if
you don't know what two B is, it is my favorite streaming app.
And I'm not just saying that because they pay me. It is legitimately my
favorite one as a consumer because it has the biggest library and has the weirdest
stuff and it's free. To Be is one hundred percent free. It is
so free and good that in the advertising for to Be it actually says this
is legal because so many people think it isn't it is ads based. Please
don't use an ad blocker, you piece of shit. Let me get my
five cents for my hundreds of hours of work to entertain you. But my
entire library of features is on there, So if you just want to try
me out, if you just want to rent something to be is the other
best way to check us out legally where we at least get something from it.
And of course again Curtains for Christmas. Search forward on Kickstarter, look
at our Facebook or look at the Twitter page or whatever. You know,
we posted the links everywhere, But if you search for Curtains for Christmas on
kickstar, y you will find it. Well, we'll be sharing like the
link, the link along with this with this podcast, but I mean you
can easily find it by just doing by just googling curtains for miss Kickstarter.
Yeah, Like we have a lot of great rewards. If you don't want
to spend too much money, you can just pre order a DVD or a
blue graate. It does help us, it does go really far, and
you will be having a direct hand and helping us make this film that Elin
and I are very excited to hopefully make and we feel very very strongly about.
We think it's a great script. We think it's a really fun script.
We think that there's so many great scenes of comedy, so many great
scenes of gore, and so many great Christmas moments too, you know,
like again, that's very important to me. So you know, I'm gonna
do that the best that I can, and I really hope that we get
to make the movie. But we definitely need the fans to support us.
We know we Please do not wait. If you're interested, if this all
sounds something like you're interested in, please consider supporting the kickstarter so we can
get to that fourteen thousand by the end of the month. And if you
don't know me, well, like if you're a new listener to this or
if you only know me through Shingles the movie. All of my kickstarters that
have succeeded have delivered within a year, Like you are not signing up for
like scam filmmaker or some jerk that you know you'll get the movie several years
from now, you know, I taught. I've seen a lot of people
on Facebook talk about this where they are just so blown away that like they've
created they've supported my Kickstarter and got my movie so soon before kickstars are they've
supported years ago. You're not going to be waiting. We're filming it this
summer. It will be out this winter late autumn, Like that is the
plan. And I'm good at my plans, so don't worry about it.
If said something that you might not get. If we succeed, you're getting
the movie. I won guarantee it, So please please, for the love
of God, guys, your money is paying for everything in the movie.
We're not taking a paycheck on this. We don't get paid it. Nothing
goes to us. It's locations, actors, special effects, editing, music.
That's it. So like we're not going to be sitting on your money.
It's going to a good cause. If you want to find me on
the internet, I'm pretty easy to find. My Instagram is at Eleen Eisley.
I also run the Karris Hell Twitter so Steve is his own name on
Twitter. But if you want to talk to me on Twitter, you can
go at Carris Hell Film. And that's about it for me. Really,
you can find me around. Don't say that you've been in a ton of
stuff. Yeah, I mean I have movies. I'm in several of Steve's.
I have another film called Headcase that just came out this year. It's
on Amazon Prime. I think that is not with Steve. So I'm around.
I'm currently performing in the Pittsburgh area and stage musicals throughout the year too,
so maybe you'll see me. All right. Well, guys, thank
you so much for for joining us watching this podcast. I mean, I
gotta say I'm excited for this movie, so please go support it, you
know, I from one would love to see it to love to see it
get made because it sounds like it's gonna be pretty fucking awesome. All right,
that's the hope. So I guess if you like Carousel three in terms
of how it looks, Curtains for Christmas is going to look just as good.
You know. I just know a lot of people say the Karas are
the reason my best looking film, and we plan on at least matching that,
if not surpassing it for curtains for Christmas. Although there will be that
trope, hair, I forgot to say this, I definitely want to play
into the whole trope of how many of these goddamn Christmas wrong coms by the
same drone footage of winter and cows that they are clearly not shooting at.
So there'll be a lot of that, and curtains for Christmas n the best
stock footage money can buy. I bought a couple clothes for ambible Christmas vacation,
and then I watched a couple of Christmas wrong comms on two B After
that, I'm just like, I bought that shot awesome. Well again,
Uh, thank you guys, Thank you guys for joining us. For those
of you at home, thanks for listening. Definitely go sport curtains for christ
Smith and we will be back next week with uh, I guess, well
some kind of game. I'm not sure if we're doing the final of Salty
Bastards after this or we're doing something else. I why Batman be Superman is
the best common book movie that's next week? What was that you're breaking up,
Steve? It's in the top twenty, all right, I mean that's
fair. Yeah, I would. I wouldn't die on the hill if someone
doesn't agree with me that it's the best. I just get thrown off when
people like say it's like the worst, I'm like, have you seen a
capwoman? Like? Come on, it's not that bad. If you hate
it, I'll give you that. I will concede. We'll argue offline.
All right, guys, We'll be back next week. Until then, Bye,
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