WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:07.440 Welcome to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network. Guardians Weekly is brought 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:01:00.359 to you by Progressive helping Guardians fans save hundreds on car insurance. Hi, 3 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:07.319 everyone, welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with you from Progressive Field 4 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.040 in downtown Cleveland, where the Guardians are in the midst of a new home 5 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.519 stand. They're taking on the Angels this weekend, and then the Tigers come 6 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.040 in the first of next week as they get back in the division against the 7 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.760 surprising Detroit Tigers for the first time this season. Coming up a little bit 8 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.799 later on in our show today, we'll have another edition of at the Ballpark 9 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:32.000 with Bobby d Ruben Amaro will be his guest. This week. We'll also 10 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:37.560 be joined by Guardians RELAEF pitchers Nick Sandlin and Scott Barlow, and we'll talk 11 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.599 some pitching in the organization on the minor league side with Minor League pitching coordinator 12 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:47.719 Caleb Longshore. But first, our weekend review and for the Guardians. It 13 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:52.719 began on Tuesday, after and off day on Monday in Houston, a while 14 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.239 back and forth game against the Astros that went ten innings. The Guardians fell 15 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.079 behind eight to three, but came all the way back and actually took a 16 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.680 lead late in that game, only to see Houston win it on a Victor 17 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.759 Carrottini walk off home run in the bottom half of the tenth inning by that 18 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.199 ten to nine final, but Cleveland returned the favor and extra innings the following 19 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.639 night down in Houston. Good pitching in this one, as Justin Verlander was 20 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:22.879 matched up against the Guardians Tristan McKenzie, and both pitchers were sharp early. 21 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:27.520 McKenzie's ready. Here it comes another curve hit on the ground, a short 22 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:34.000 till second for one by Rochio him in his relay double play and inning ending 23 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.919 double play three in the books, Cleveland Houston scoreless. The Guardians broke the 24 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.199 scoreless tie as they got on the board in the fifth, starting with Will 25 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:47.360 Brennan. Brennan trying to get it rolling againy going through a tough patch here. 26 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:51.960 The next pitch to him is swung on and skied to deep right center. 27 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.039 This one has a chance way back there. Leaping at the wall is 28 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.240 Tucker, but it is into the bullpen a home run for Brennan, and 29 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:06.719 the Guardians snapped the scoreless tie on Brennan's home run. It is one nothing 30 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.759 Cleveland. Later on in the inning, with a man on and two outs, 31 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:15.520 Steven Kwan came through. Here's the pitch, swung on line drive right 32 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:20.039 field, fair ball, down the line, into the corner. It goes 33 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.120 motoring. The third is Rochio. They're gonna send him. Here comes the 34 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:29.800 relay throw. He slides the tag safe at home plate. Oh, it 35 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.240 was close. Put Rochio over the head first slide, got that front hand 36 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:40.280 in there, and the Guardians take a two nothing lead. But the Astros 37 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.840 responded with a run in the sixth another in the seventh that tied the game 38 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:50.159 at two, and for the fourth consecutive game, the Guardians headed to extra 39 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:54.639 innings. Now the two old swung on line drive toward bright Flooria takes a 40 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:02.520 chest tide catch. We've got extra innings for the fourth consecutive game. Tied 41 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:09.039 at two. After nine, Gabrielarius was the runner starting at second base. 42 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:13.479 Brian Rochio let it off with a walk and that brought Stephen Kwan to the 43 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.800 plate again. In an RBI situation, Cleveland trying to get to twenty and 44 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:21.600 ten. Now the two to one delivery swung on ripped to laugh. Fair 45 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:27.800 ball inside the line, It'll scoot into the corner. Arius to score on 46 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:31.079 his way to third. Rocchio in sliding, and a stand up double for 47 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:36.399 Stephen Kwan. He's got a three hit night as he shot it down that 48 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:42.759 left field line. He's now single tripled in double to night three to two 49 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:47.680 Cleveland, and just as importantly, Runners still had second and third with nobody 50 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.839 out, and then it was up to Emmanuel Classe in the bottom half of 51 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:57.199 the tenth inning to preserve that one run lead, tying run at second, 52 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.360 one down in the tenth Houston wanted last night. With two outs in the 53 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:05.920 tenth, the pitch a swing and a little flare left center on the round, 54 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:12.079 Kwan diving cans he made it. Cartini's around third, coming home, 55 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:17.560 He'll be doubled up. Ball game. The Guardians get out of Houston tonight 56 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:24.680 with an ext running win. As Caratini thought the ball was dropping, he 57 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:30.199 was crossing home plate. Guardians were stepping on second base to end it. 58 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:38.160 Wow, what a road trip. Final to night in ten Cleveland three and 59 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:43.959 Houston two. What a ballgame it was on Wednesday night down in Houston, 60 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:49.560 and again the fourth consecutive extra inning game that hadn't happened for a Cleveland baseball 61 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:57.000 club since they were the Naps back in nineteen ten. Thursday Series in road 62 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:00.160 trip finale in Houston in eight to two victory for the Astros, and then 63 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.839 the Guardians returned home to open up a new home stand on Friday night, 64 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.560 only to see the Angels toss a shutout six nothing the final score of the 65 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:15.120 Angels over the Guardians on Friday. Well, Tristan McKenzie had a tremendous outing 66 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:20.639 for Cleveland on Wednesday I Houston with seven strong innings, allowing just two runs. 67 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.439 And we had a chance to catch up with him the following day and 68 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:29.639 he talked about getting more confident with each start and some of the keys to 69 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.680 his progression since the beginning of the season. I mean, I think it's 70 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:38.480 all been about trying to stay consistent of my routines in between starts and then 71 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.879 just taking the positive from meat start and trying to build off of them. 72 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.079 And I think step by step it's been getting better and better. And when 73 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.800 you look at at this game, patience can be really tough. How difficult 74 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.759 was it as you went through those ups and downs in spring training? And 75 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:54.600 then your early starts of the season. Yeah, I mean it's I mean, 76 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:56.800 it's the name of the game. It's a it's a game of failure, 77 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:00.480 but being able to take the fails and stride and just learn from them 78 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.600 and be able to understand that there's always tomorrow and that you can come out 79 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.600 here and put your best foot forward. Because of the year last year, 80 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:10.279 with some of the issues you were going through, is it more difficult to 81 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:14.680 kind of believe in that process that you'd be okay eventually. I mean, 82 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.839 I think it just there's a certain level of competition and eagerness that you have 83 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.560 when you're out there that I feel like I needed to get back to. 84 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.920 I think missing last year was tough, but I think I've been trying to 85 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.480 compete every outing. But I think it's just gradually gotten closer to what I 86 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:30.519 feel is more normal for me. And I think the guys have seen it 87 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:35.519 too. And it sounded like your teammates noticed it last night. And is 88 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:40.519 that something you feel sometimes when as a game's developing, especially a close one 89 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.879 like you had on Wednesday night. I mean, I think I'm always trying 90 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.279 to do that for my teammates at least give some energy on the mound so 91 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.720 that they know I'm out there competing, and I know that they're always doing 92 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.720 their best out there, so I think they can always expect that from me 93 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:58.360 too. Tristan McKenzie joining us after seven strong against Houston on Wednesday night and 94 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.800 earlier in the day today, CC sabbatia is announced they'll be going into the 95 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:07.399 Guardians Hall of Fame. You have a good relationship with him. Explain that 96 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.040 and what it means to you to know that in August he'll be having a 97 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.959 special day at the Black Mark. Yeah. I mean, I know CC 98 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:16.639 not only is the baseball player that I grew up watching him as, but 99 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.800 as a person. I've been able to hang out with him a couple of 100 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.079 times, and I just know he's a great mentor to me, being able 101 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.920 to talk to him and bounce ideas off of him, and even just ask 102 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:28.279 him about the game of baseball, on the trials and tribulations that he went 103 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.879 through as a competitor, injuries as well as having success in the game. 104 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.559 I mean, I don't think anybody deserves it more than him. When you 105 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.840 look at at some of the things he can help you with. Anything specific 106 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.639 that that you guys get into that you can share. I mean, I've 107 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.759 asked him tons of questions. One, what does it feel like to winnasi 108 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.639 young? What does it feel like to win a World Series? As well 109 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.360 as like some of the I guess the darker side of our sport is more 110 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.799 just like how do you deal with injuries? How do you deal with going 111 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.120 out there and competing and not having your best stuff or getting traded or being 112 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:00.720 in different organizations. I think he has a wealth of knowledge that I'm able 113 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.960 to just pick his brain about. So I love hearing any information you can 114 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.879 give me. And this organization has had some great pitchers and you've had seasons 115 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:13.360 where you certainly belong in those conversations too. And does that kind of connect 116 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.879 itself when you talk about the cc Sabathias of the world, Yeah, one 117 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.960 hundred percent. I think being able to even be in the same room or 118 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.799 have conversations with those guys always makes me want to strive for more, and 119 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.919 it always see, it always allows me to try and pick their brain to 120 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:30.519 see if I can get an edge of my competition. Hey, this team 121 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.519 is off to a great start. You've been with good teams here before. 122 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.840 What is it about this one that's allowing it to win games like Wednesday night 123 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.720 extra inning games and just in general play really good baseball. I mean, 124 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.240 I don't think I don't think Wednesday's any different from the previous three extra inning 125 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:50.360 games that we played this year. I think just being able to go out 126 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:52.799 there from pitch one to the final pitch and know that we're out there grinding, 127 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.240 know that we're out there trying to win the baseball game, but not 128 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.679 just with one player, just with one or two players, it's a team 129 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.720 effort is huge for our morale. It's fun to watch too, and maybe 130 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.759 not for you guys been living through it, pitched the pitch, but it 131 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:09.519 sure has been entertaining. And Team Mac thanks left for coming back, no 132 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:15.279 problem, Rosie, thank you. That's Tristan McKenzie again. Seven strong innings 133 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.720 on Wednesday and no decision against the Astros, a game that the Guardians won, 134 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:24.440 but McKenzie was terrific and that bodes well if he can continue on this 135 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.919 latest path of success for the Guardians in their starting rotation. Well, pitching 136 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.320 development has been such a key for this organization for a long long time. 137 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:37.399 And we'll talk to one of those who is a key in the pitching development 138 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:41.919 department. He's the pitching coordinator in the minor league system. Caleb Longshore, 139 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:48.480 He's our guest when we continue. After this timeout, low Perfido has singled 140 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:54.360 and struck out. The rookie leftfielder takes a swing and comes up empty. 141 00:10:54.519 --> 00:11:00.159 Try to hold up chase the curveball six stray outs for McKenzie Houston. I 142 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:05.039 said, what an effort by Tristan McKenzie Tonight two two ballgame seven in the 143 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:11.080 books at Progressive. We know money can't buy you happiness, but money did 144 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.440 help you buy an RV, which means an excuse for working Saturday with your 145 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.919 insufferable co worker Dave. So money is helping you listen to birds chirp instead 146 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.440 of Dave chirping about how his toddler is fluent in three languages. And it's 147 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.600 also why you'll be smelling pine trees in the air now Dave's tune them olt 148 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:28.720 reheating in a microwave. 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Kate Smith in a set of brawl as a bridgemand a 157 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:33.799 clause today and passes this test with flying colors, striking out a pair nothing 158 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.679 into the count four to one. Cleveland face is empty. Two down in 159 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:43.120 the night Claws, let's hit rip and a bray. You a swing and 160 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:50.440 a mess. Bogging Clause pumps that fist in the gloves, strikes out the 161 00:12:50.600 --> 00:13:03.200 side and the Guardians with another dominant pitching performance tonight. Welcome back to Guardian's 162 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.919 Weekly Jim Rosenhause back with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland. Well, 163 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:13.600 it's called the Pitching Factory by many. That is Cleveland's development system for pitchers, 164 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.679 and it starts in the minor leagues. One of two pitching coordinators at 165 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.120 the minor league level is Caleb Longshore, and we had a chance to visit 166 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.159 with him in Atlanta last weekend as he had an opportunity to take in Big 167 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.559 League Baseball and be a part of the staff for the weekend in Atlanta, 168 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.840 and he talked about how exciting it is right now to be a part of 169 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:39.679 a group that continues to develop pitchers into impact major leaguers at a high rate. 170 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.039 It's a really unique situation for us, you know, the amount of 171 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.279 homegrown talent that we end up you know, having in the major leagues, 172 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:54.000 whether it's in the bullpen or starting rotation. I think it's one super fulfilling 173 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.639 for our group, but a testament to the people that we have working in 174 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:00.639 the organization and the job there our coaches do with the mind early level. 175 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.120 And i'd relate a story to you in spring training, a lot of the 176 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.200 younger pitchers who are in camp for the first time and then back in the 177 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.240 minor leagues, they pointed to you having a direct impact on them, and 178 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:15.360 as a coordinator, how do you make that happen where you can have some 179 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.799 impact on that? Yeah, super humbling to hear that. I think, 180 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.799 first of all, like we have really really good players and good humans that 181 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.120 you know, want to be coach and partnering with our coaches and partnering with 182 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:31.799 the player like this is their career and so at the foremost we're working for 183 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:35.480 them. And I think that engagement and them understanding that, you know, 184 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.639 as a group from Joel Mangrom or other coordinator and our coaches as well as 185 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:45.440 our pitching leadership group, what we're able to work through and collaborate together and 186 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.879 then portray to the players and be able to you know, put it on 187 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.679 a level that they can understand the build off of you know, that just 188 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.080 makes us work and click as a group. And lastly, you know, 189 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.200 to all of our coaches that drive our player plans and our day to day 190 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.960 that's where we really see these guys take off and watch them start to grow 191 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:09.039 throughout the system. Before you were a coordinator, your first job was Lake 192 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.200 County pitching coach. A couple of decent pitchers went through there that you had 193 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.080 a chance to work with. Tell us about that staff who came through there, 194 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.000 that that would be recognizable to our fans. Yeah, a couple of 195 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:24.279 names, Gavin Williams and Tanor Bibby obviously at the forefront of that, with 196 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.200 Kate Smith that was in that group as well, and then some of our 197 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.799 younger guys that are an accron right now and in TRIPLEA with Columbus, Doug 198 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.320 mccazy, Tommy Masayer and Davenport. Was the starting crew that was there, 199 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.120 Lenny Torrez who's throwing the ball really well. So I walked into a really 200 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:50.039 good situation and seeing those guys compete every day, watching how they've grown since 201 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.480 twenty twenty two, things that once again a testament to everybody that's involved in 202 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.840 our minor league pitching group. Caleb Longshore is joining us. He is a 203 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.799 minor league pitching coordinat for the Guardians and it was with the ball club in 204 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:07.519 Atlanta when the team was there, and Caleb, not everybody can be an 205 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.840 instructor or a coach, but I know you've made a career out of that, 206 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:15.519 and what is the key to relaying things that are helpful for young pitchers 207 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.679 to make them the best they can be? First of all, super blessed 208 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.799 to be in the position that ALM obviously love the game. You know, 209 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.879 I think the foremost thing is the relationship that you build with the player. 210 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.039 You know, they have to know that your number one interest is in them. 211 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.480 You have to build a relationship of trusts and then you work through it 212 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.279 together, you know, And I think that's you know, if I was 213 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.480 going coaching one oh one, It's like, that's the foundational piece is how 214 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:48.039 do we get the player to understand that, you know, we're in this 215 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.159 business to help them become the best that they can. And once that foundation 216 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:55.639 is there, you work together to improve their player plan and the direction for 217 00:16:55.679 --> 00:17:02.399 their career. Yeat a lengthy stretch as a college code. Biggest difference for 218 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:06.759 you coming to pro ball that you found working with this organization the ability to 219 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.880 work as a group for what's best. We we typically don't make any one 220 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.160 person decisions, especially at our minor league level, like the amount of resources 221 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:19.240 that we have and the amount of experience from you know, Carl at the 222 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:23.079 top to Owen Do, who's our triple A pitching coach has been the org 223 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.039 for you know, seven years, Tony Arnold, that's thirty plus years with 224 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:32.680 us, and then our pitching leadership group with Joel Mangram, Stephen oster Ben 225 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.759 Johnson and Eric Bender at the top, like there's so many resources and so 226 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.599 many opportunities for us all to work together alone with support from our analyst group, 227 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:47.240 that we feel like together as one big group, we can put together 228 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:52.240 a good plan. And that to me has been the biggest difference from college 229 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.359 to pro ball is the ability to work with people to come up with the 230 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.920 best plan going forward for each player. We'll close with it. You're from 231 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.839 Alabama, tell us the name of the town there. You live in Cleveland, 232 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.720 Alabama. So pretty ironic, but just tells me I'm at the place 233 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.599 I need to be. That is one of two pitching coordinators in the minor 234 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:17.680 league system for the Guardians, along with Joel Mangram. Caleb Longshore does great 235 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:22.240 work and it was great to visit with him down in Atlanta last weekend. 236 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.759 Well, the bullpen has been a big key for the Guardians so far this 237 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.640 season. Nick Sandlin and Scott Barlow have been a big part of that and 238 00:18:29.680 --> 00:19:07.759 we will visit with them when we return after this. The one too swam 239 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:15.680 of this fastball get him Nick Sandlin gets it done again stretch time at the 240 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:22.319 corner of Carnagen, Ontario. Jim Rose announced back with you from Progressive Field 241 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:26.160 in downtown Cleveland. It is Guardian's Weekly, The Guardian's taking on the Angels 242 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:32.799 this weekend Saturday night six' ten, first pitch Sunday afternoon one, and 243 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.759 then the Tigers are in town for a three game series starting Monday night. 244 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.240 Weather relievers have either been at or near the top of Major League Baseball in 245 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:47.559 terms of lowest earned run average in all of baseball at various points in time 246 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.000 throughout the season so far, and that's been a big key to the hot 247 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.359 start for Cleveland. Nick Sandlin has been a key part of that, a 248 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:59.440 reliable and versatile piece in that bullpen. He picked up his first major league 249 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.640 save asked Saturday in Atlanta, and when we caught up with him recently, 250 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:07.519 talked about what it means knowing the pitching staff has confidence in him to pitch 251 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.359 in a late game role. Yeah, it's definitely a cool feeling to be, 252 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.039 you know, on the Mount Layton games and whatever the situation is. 253 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.680 But to finish a game and you know, to come out on top like 254 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.680 that and against a good team, good atmosphere, it was a it was 255 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:26.400 a great night and you had family there. How much family and what did 256 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:27.599 it mean to you to have them on hand? Oh yeah, I had 257 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:33.279 about like fifteen people that family and friends, you know, in the in 258 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.000 the family section, seeing them after the game, everybody together. So yeah, 259 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.119 but we've been waiting a few years to go to Atlanta, which is 260 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.799 the closest to uh, you know, where I'm from in Georgia, So 261 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:45.640 it was it was really cool that they got to for for most of them 262 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.440 my first their first time seeing me pitch in the Major League, So it 263 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.920 worked out well. Re a Braves fan growing up, I was yeah, 264 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.079 just I mean, like I said, the closest team down there in Georgia. 265 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.599 So yeah, you know a lot of games that in the field, 266 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.920 but that was the first time being to that stadium. Beautiful ballpark for sure. 267 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:07.440 When you look at at how you've been used so far this year, 268 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:14.160 you've been extremely strong coming on mid inning and leaving runners on base. Is 269 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.000 there something to that that's that's a key to have success at that and maybe 270 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.400 more so than when you start an ending fresh. I think for me, 271 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.400 it's just coming in and you know, trying to get ahead, work ahead 272 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.200 of hitters, and you know, continue to attack. You don't want to 273 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:30.559 add fuel to the fire, or you know, any situation that you come 274 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.880 into by giving them extra free passes where one hit could you know, be 275 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.920 two or three runs. So for me, just yeah, you know, 276 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.400 just trying to get ahead and get to where I can you know, attack 277 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.839 guys. And yeah, just gotten used to it over the past couple of 278 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.079 years, so a little bit more comfortable in situations coming in with with guys 279 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.279 on. I thought it was interesting Steven Vote had mentioned about pitching in that 280 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.480 situation. You may allow a runner two to score, but as long as 281 00:21:56.519 --> 00:22:00.920 you leave while the team is still leading, then you've done your job. 282 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.519 And is that how you look at it or do you even think of it 283 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.079 along those lines? I mean, you definitely want you never want anyone to 284 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:11.359 score, right, but you know if every once in a while there might 285 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:12.839 be a situation, okay, got on a third and no outs, it's 286 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:18.480 like, yeah, you you don't want him to score, but also you 287 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.200 don't want to be pitching too careful like I said, where you know you 288 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.319 might end up putting a couple extra guys on base and it leads to a 289 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.480 bigger inning. So yeah, keeping them at you know, one run tops 290 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.720 or just avoiding avoiding the big inning and and situations when you come in. 291 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.880 Is is really key when you look at the bultpen, the relief crew has 292 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.279 been tremendous really most of the season. I have some new faces down there. 293 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.839 How how is the the vibe down in the pen compared to years past, 294 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.799 and and how quickly has it gelled here early this season? It's jelled 295 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.559 really well. I think part of that is just you know, the team 296 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.680 playing well and you know, guys pitching good. But yeah, I mean 297 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.720 guys like uh, Tim Harron, Kate Smith, Hunter Gaddis, you know, 298 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.799 and Bad's just it's it's good to have all these guys here. We 299 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.839 have a good group and you know, everyone's done a good job so far, 300 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.039 being ready to pitch every day, being ready to come in spots, 301 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.799 pick each other up and yeah, look to continue. Nick. Always good 302 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.279 to have you on. Thank you, all right, thank you. It's 303 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:17.920 Nick Sandlin is off to a terrific start for the Guardians out of their bullpen. 304 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.119 So too is Scott Barlow, who's really beginning to come on another key 305 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.960 piece as a veteran in that bullpen, and we caught up with him in 306 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.559 Houston as well, and he talked about how he's settling in so far as 307 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:34.279 a new member of the club in twenty twenty four. Yeah, you know, 308 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.960 first month down, I feel pretty good so far. So uh, 309 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.559 you know, you always want to see, you know, progression. You 310 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:42.920 know, first couple of games maybe not where I wanted to be, but 311 00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:45.920 you know, working with the guys here, I mean just going over to 312 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:51.599 small things and you know, they just instill so much positivity in you on 313 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.519 just the day to day basis that you know, it's it's hard, you 314 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.960 know not to you know, let it affect you. You know, having 315 00:23:57.039 --> 00:24:00.319 the positive you know mindset affects you and just being okay, like you know, 316 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.240 I got some stuff to work on a little bit, but you know, 317 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.880 still having faith and everything and just trusting the process. And now I 318 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:12.640 feel, you know, pretty pretty darn good right now mechanically and and especially 319 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.200 with the guys in the clubhouse. Everybody's you know, has a lot of 320 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:22.839 camaraderie and togetherness, so just build upon that and in addition to that positivity 321 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.440 part of it. For you, what's been especially helpful so far during your 322 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:30.279 two and a half months here with the ball club when once spring training began. 323 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:33.720 Uh. I think the biggest thing is just you know, you know, 324 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.799 whenever you kind of come to a new team, you know, having 325 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:42.160 fresh eyes, fresh coaches, getting new just ideas out there, you know, 326 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.359 stuff that you maybe I've never thought about or have brought to my attention. 327 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.440 And and and them just being you know, super open about everything, 328 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:56.079 and you know, just the communication has been awesome. And then you know, 329 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:00.480 just being able to you know never you know, whenever you're working on 330 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.480 something, you know, you always want a little bit of like you know, 331 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.119 free space to you know, explore and just try new things on your 332 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:10.599 own. And I feel like here they just you know, give you a 333 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:14.720 ton of that. And you know, then if you have questions and say, 334 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:17.799 hey, you know, is this the right idea, you know they'll 335 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.079 come and just have a really good conversation with you. When you look at 336 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.279 at how you get it done. Uh yeah, that that good breaking stuff 337 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:30.279 that that really seems to give hitters a tough time. And you talk about 338 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.920 having confidence in that pitch, do you almost have to have more confidence in 339 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.920 that that you can put it where it needs to be as opposed to say 340 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:40.279 someone who just comes in and rares back and fires, the herd stuff. 341 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:45.400 Yeah, you know, I've definitely felt my spin has developed quite a bit 342 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.119 as my kind of career has gone on, and you know, confidence of 343 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.640 you know, it doesn't necessarily have to be the most perfect. You know, 344 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.400 you know when you're looking at the TV, the the white line and 345 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.759 putting it directly on that, you know a lot of it's just the mindset 346 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.599 and just commitment to the pitch. I know, you know, your first 347 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.519 couple of years, you know, you can be a little bit overwhelmed of 348 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.240 trying to be maybe too perfect, and you know that's when the balls start 349 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.640 coming in and you know, you try to make an adjustment. You're like, 350 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.440 oh, I gotta get this over the plate, and you know you're 351 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.079 a little bit more timid over it and just never spins right or you know, 352 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.000 it just doesn't have the same kind of oomph behind it, and those 353 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.200 are the ones in the zone that might get hit. And you know, 354 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.519 it's just comes comes with the territory of just being compied on the mound and 355 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.079 knowing that you know, you know, I put full commitment behind it, 356 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.200 and you know, and and and not afraid of contacts. Really, you 357 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.119 know, good things are gonna happen over the course of the season team wise. 358 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:40.640 Obviously, with a lot of wins, it's usually fun from most teams. 359 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.160 What's made this a real fun team to be around. I mean just 360 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:51.000 the I mean camaraderie of everything. You know, I love the interaction between 361 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:56.799 pitchers and position players and everybody's just kind of gelling. And there's never like 362 00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.880 a separation of oh, there's the bullpen guys at one table or the starter 363 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.640 or whatever maybe at another table. It's no, it's you know, everybody 364 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.759 mingling and everybody cheering for another and you know, everybody's just everybody gets to 365 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.640 the ballpark every day and it and they're just excited about the game. You 366 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.039 know, everybody's you know, getting their stuff done and you can just see 367 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.799 everybody just laser focus on Okay, what do I have to do today to 368 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.039 win today? And that's just super infectious and I feel like everybody's kind of 369 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.039 feeding off that, and you know, I can definitely see it in every 370 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.440 single game. You know, when one guy's maybe scuffling, the next day, 371 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.119 you know he's he's the hero. So I mean, you know, 372 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.519 it's never it's never like one guy doing everything. It's you know, a 373 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.759 different guy is stepping up every single day, and I think that's just a 374 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:47.359 testament to everybody feeding off of the positivity. Been working well for sure. 375 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.559 Scott, thanks a lot for coming by. Appreciate it absolutely, Thank you 376 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.599 for having me. That is Scott Barlow, a veteran presence and what is 377 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.480 a very young bullpen for the Guardians, and he's really been coming on as 378 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.599 he settles in to this twenty twenty four season. Stay with us when we 379 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:04.920 come back for our final segment. 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Welcome back to 389 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.640 Guardian's Weekly Jim Rosenhause along with you from Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland, and 390 00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.759 don't forget a lot of different ways to catch our show. Each week. 391 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:18.759 It airs at seven am on our flagship station in Cleveland WTAM, and check 392 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:25.960 your local listings for airtimes on your Guardians Radio Network affiliate. Also, you 393 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:32.559 can catch it in podcast form wherever you download your favorite podcast and in need. 394 00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.119 It is our final segment for this week's show, and that means we 395 00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:41.000 check in with Guardian Senior Vice President bob Y Bassio. It's at the Ballpark 396 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:47.880 with Bobby D and his guest this week, Ruben Amorrow. The perfectly manicured 397 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:55.200 fields, the unmistakable aroma of a ballpark hot dog, and the electricity celebrating 398 00:29:55.440 --> 00:30:00.880 another victory. This is at the Ballpark with Bobby D. Thank you, 399 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:06.680 Hammy. Welcome to at the Ballpark, where we hope you enjoy our conversations 400 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.039 with those involved in the wonderful game of baseball, those who may be behind 401 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:17.680 the scenes or the colorful personalities who have provided so many exciting moments and memories 402 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:22.200 Today, we're joined by former outfielder Ruben Amaro, who enjoyed an eight year 403 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:27.160 big league career two here in Cleveland. Roupe, thank you for being with 404 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.319 us. Bobby, it's an absolute pleasure to see again. You have literally 405 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.559 done everything in the game of baseball. You grew up in the game of 406 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.799 baseball. You played your coach, you were a general manager of a World 407 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.200 Series champion, now a TV broadcaster for the Phillies. But before we get 408 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.039 into all of that, let's talk about your two years here in Cleveland, 409 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:56.000 nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety five, two pretty fun seasons in an Indians 410 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.920 uniform. It was an absolute blast we've had I think about those days all 411 00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.759 the time, and in fact, you know, we opened up what was 412 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.000 Jacob's Field then at that time, I did not make the team out of 413 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.359 spring training, but came up later on in May and and I had an 414 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.200 opportunity to spend some time with some great, great players, did a lot 415 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:22.079 of bench time, but great people, wonderful coaching staff and some really super 416 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:26.079 teammates. You have literally done it all in the game of baseball. Grew 417 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.680 up in the game, played coach, and was a general manager. Pretty 418 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.640 remarkable. Yeah, I'm very fortunate obviously with my dad's background on my grandfather's 419 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.519 background in baseball. It's the only thing I ever knew, Bob, and 420 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.599 it's something that I'm very proud of the fact that I'm able to at least 421 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:47.640 carry on that baseball legacy in our family. And I was just very fortunate 422 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.440 to be around baseball, fell in love with it as at a very young 423 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.720 age, and have had the great fortune of being able to continue that on 424 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.759 the broadcasting side. Now, your dad was born in Mexico, had a 425 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:05.039 eleven year major League career, mostly with Philadelphia. You were born when he 426 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.440 played for the Phillies, a team you played for and became the general manager 427 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.519 of, and now do television. That's so special. Yeah, it really 428 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.240 is. I mean it's been you know, I believe Phillies read there's no 429 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:21.599 question about that. Born and bred there, and the bulk of my family 430 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.480 still lives there, my mom's there, my brother. But it really is 431 00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:30.640 a dream come true for me to have done this many things in the Red 432 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.279 Pinstripes, and I'm really fortunate to be able to talk about the team now 433 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.279 and be involved in even last year in postseason play. It was just really 434 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:43.039 cool to be a part of it. Your playing career ends in nineteen ninety 435 00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.319 eight, and you immediately get hired by our friend Eddie Wade, who was 436 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.960 the GM at the time. Was that something you always thought about, was 437 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.359 getting in the front office? I really did not. Actually, when I 438 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.880 went to him that spring in ninety eight, prior to the end of the 439 00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.119 season, I actually just told it, Hey, listen, I don't know 440 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.759 how long much longer I'm going to be allowed to play on your teams, 441 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.160 so at some point I'd love to maybe scout or be in the organization as 442 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.640 a coach or something like that. And he said, well, I haven't 443 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.400 hired anybody as my assistant yet, and he had already been, you know, 444 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.519 named the official GM at the time. He said, uh, would 445 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.720 you have any interest in that? And I thought, I thought he was 446 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.799 kidding, But we ended up I ended up playing one more year that year, 447 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:27.559 and then during the course of that season we talked a lot about that 448 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.319 opportunity, and probably around mid season, when I was hitting about a buck 449 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.519 twenty, I figure, you know what, I better not let this window 450 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.759 close, So, you know, I accepted that opportunity and then jumped right 451 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:44.359 into the front office. You spent ten seasons as an assistant GM three under 452 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.240 the Hall of Fame executive Pat Gellick. You guys, your assistant GM Pat 453 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.960 Gellick, you win the World Series and the day after the parade you get 454 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:59.400 immediately named general manager. What kind of pressure is that. There's a lot 455 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.480 of pressure. I remember my brother David and my older brother saying, you 456 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:06.599 know, most gms get their first opportunity when the team's really, you know, 457 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.280 terrible. But you're taking over a team that just won the World Series. 458 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.280 There's only one way to go but down. I said, well, 459 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.000 this is this is it. But the opportunity that presented itself, I'm very 460 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:22.199 grateful for had a great team to work with and great people, David Montgomery 461 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.320 and and and others. David, the late great David Montgomery gave me this 462 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:34.880 opportunity and I couldn't have been more grateful and really enjoyed two or three really 463 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:38.920 really super years in that role. And I remember my one of my assistants 464 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:42.400 at the time, Benny Looper, had worked with Pat Gillick for a long 465 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.679 time, said, you know, when we got back to the playoffs, 466 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.119 said, it's the first team that Pat Gillick walked away from that ever made 467 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.000 the playoffs, and so you should be very proud of that. We ended 468 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:52.840 up going to the World Series, unfortunately losing to the Yanks, but I'm 469 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.400 still pretty proud of those moments. Well, we're talking with Rubin Tomorrow, 470 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.880 who spent a couple of years in a Cleveland uniform, and as he said, 471 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.199 Bleeds Philadelphia are red. You did some great things as GM divisional titles, 472 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:12.199 you had the best records in Major League Baseball. The guy I want 473 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.840 to chat about briefly because you did win a World Series with him as your 474 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.239 skipper, Charlie Manual. Those in baseball who know him, what a multi 475 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.440 dimensional, fun, unbelievable baseball guy. Charlie a great friend of mine, 476 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.440 and really I got a chance to work with him. He was my hitting 477 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.360 coach here in Cleveland, and I'll tell you the greatest thing about Charlie is 478 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.119 that he really took care of me. I was a guy who got probably 479 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.679 sixty at bats and there's others who had six hundred, and yet he treated 480 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.079 me, you know, very very similarly to how you would treat a guy 481 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.159 like Kenny Lofton or Carlos Byerga or O Marvis Skeal, and so I was 482 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.760 very fortunate to have had him as my hitting coach, and when we had 483 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.159 an opportunity to bring Jim to me to Philadelphia, I thought to myself, 484 00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.440 no better person to help make that happen than Charlie. Manually ended up being 485 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.639 one of our special assistants before we hired him as our manager. What were 486 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.440 some of the traits of Charlie that you did see as skipper? You know? 487 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.480 I think his relationships with the players. That was one of his biggest 488 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.880 strengths. He loved being out in the clubhouse, didn't like to be in 489 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.079 his office, and I thought that was in this day and age, as 490 00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.400 we were transitioning, game was kind of changing. Players needed attention and they 491 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.000 needed some love, and I think that Charlie really was. His relationships with 492 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.719 the players was I think one of the most important things. And I think 493 00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:35.440 he was kind of sly like a fox. I think he understood the game. 494 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.000 He'd been around the game a lot, He'd watched a lot of baseball 495 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.480 played in Japan, He'd been all over the world playing baseball, and I 496 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.400 think those experiences helped him as well, you had a shortstop, and every 497 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.880 team needs a great shortstop. Here you got to play with Omarvis SkELL As 498 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:54.159 you mentioned Jimmy Rollins at Year Ball Club in Philadelphia. Special player. Is 499 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:58.719 he a Hall of Famer? I think he is, of course, I'm 500 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.159 very biased. I that chance to watch his development as a young player. 501 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:06.519 Remember my dad telling me when he was working for the Phillies, as he 502 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.639 was actually one of our infield instructors in the minor leagues and coordinators. He 503 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:14.480 said, Ruben, don't you worry about Jimmy. He's going to be fine. 504 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.199 And he worked his way through the big leagues and he said he's going 505 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:21.840 to be a special player. And he sure was. I means as electrifying 506 00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:24.559 as Kenny Lofton was. I think that in a lot of ways. You 507 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.639 know, Jimmy Rollins was sort of the Phillies catalyst. What a tremendous uh. 508 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.880 You know, we used to talk about two out shortstops. Dallas Green, 509 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.079 who was on one of my many mentors, used to talk about too 510 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:38.480 out short SUPs and I don't know if there was a better one than Jimmy 511 00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.840 Rollins. Rope. This has been an absolute last catching up many things. 512 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:45.599 I really enjoyed it, Bob, thanks so much for having me. We 513 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:51.079 hope you enjoyed our two part series with former Cleveland outfield or Ruben Amaro. 514 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.840 We look forward to another edition of at the Ballpark on the Cleveland Guardians Radio 515 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:07.599 Network. And that's another edition of at the Ballpark with Bobby d. Thanks 516 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:13.519 to Bobby Biassio as always for some of his great interviews with great guests from 517 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.079 times gone by in Cleveland baseball history. And that's going to do it for 518 00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:21.519 our show this week. As always, want to thank Brian Matse for all 519 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.199 of his help in putting together the show each and every week. We'll catch 520 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:30.719 up with you next weekend when the team is in Chicago playing the Chicago White 521 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.800 Sox on a new road trip for the Guardians. Until then, this is 522 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.079 Jim Rosenhause reminding you that you've been listening to Guardians Weekly on the Cleveland Clinic 523 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:54.599 Guardians Radio Network. Guardians Weekly has been brought to you by Progressive Helping Guardians 524 00:38:54.639 --> 00:39:29.599 Fans Say hundreds on car insurance sh