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Let's just strike out. This is
the vibe Bie Jackie. Hi, guys,

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welcome to episode five up on the
last Quarantine season. Is your boy

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in the host for today Joshi Willisy
Hi, It's it's me at Guy Puzy

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And today we have a very very
very special guest, Connor Beer. Hi.

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Oh hi, guys, I love
that. Let's get this show on

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the road. Connor is a presenter, broadcaster, DJ, writer, stunning

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ledge and who always has the finger
on the poles. They recognize the sultry

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tones from the hugely popular podcast pop
Sess, which they co hosted on U

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and just generally one of my favorite
people to follow on social media. Thank

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you, patum Jones. They're all
I was just saying. I'm like,

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I'm just quickly looking at the corner
on Twitter say like me and Guy are

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like, hey, this nice to
nice follow. I'm sorry, I only

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follow Holly. I feel so bad
every time a random gay tweets me.

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I clicked through and it always is
at least followed by Holly X Like,

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of course that is the actual time, Queen. It's been ancious since I've

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had my finger on the pulse.
Oh honey, I have a finger on

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anything. I how is everyone actually
doing? Guy, you were cracking and

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better than I was last week.
Anyone who listened last week was I don't

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know. I think people were probably
a little bit like, I'm a bit

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better this week. I'm a little
bit less lost. Um, I don't

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know. I think I am sort
of seeing the light at the end of

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a tunnel now, which last week
felt like it was a train, and

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that's like, who's running a train? Honestly, I feel like people are

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starting to line up their post quarantine
like parties, and I say parties in

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inverted commerce, and it's like,
I think, but like, do you

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about what they're saying that, like
one of the plans could be that,

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you know, we're allowed to see
nine other people for a while. Like

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I feel like some people like those
nine people like will will be like an

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orgy. Oh my god. So
yeah, I'm fine. I'm kind of

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I'm fine. You're planning your planning
events, planning, planning my parties.

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She's an event organizer, ladies,
and she's not really a journalist. Oh

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my god, how about you,
John? I know you have actually had

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the week from hell, so I
will hurt you then. So I've had

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a really shit week it's my turn. So last weekend I lost a fill

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in which was an absolute shit show. What was his name? I need

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to stop, go on, just
just give me a minute. And apparently

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that doesn't constitute an emergency, which
you know is fair enough. COVID nineteen

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and all that ship. And then
on Wednesday, I was having like a

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really super ship day. It was
movable outside. I was in a funk.

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I was like, do you know
what, I'm going to go for

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a little walk to the shops,
get a few get a few essential items.

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And so I did that. On
the way back home, I phoned

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my mum some a nice little chim
wag, and then some absolute cunt on

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a bike cycled past me and joint
my phone out of my hand and cycled

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away into the sunset with my phone. So yeah, obviously I was absolutely

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raging and I just felt like shit
and I hated the world because it wasn't

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inshored? Was it? So we
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bought I literally bought it outright like
two months ago. Wasn't inshored. Thankfully,

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I had my old phone just like
kicking around in a drawer at home,

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which is fine, it's not a
ship phone, but still like not

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the point. See, I was
just like really full of hate for like

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two solid days. I wanted to
murder everybody. But yeah, I feel

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better. I feel better about it, But I feel I feel less raging

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now. I mean losing something.
I think he's probably for me or having

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something stolen. It was lost,
it was taken from my hat. Yeah,

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you no longer have it. It's
it's a really difficult thing, isn't

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it, particularly when you're on lockdown, Like I think it's just exacerbated because

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you've really got no other destructions.
You feel that definitely much more. Plus,

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who is out here robbing? I
know in a pandemic might get a

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grip the girls are robbing the girls. That's the means three they get in

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your brain. No, it's true, the girls are clearly like but really,

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you know what I thought about this
John after he said who was stealing

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in the pandemic? But there's probably
bitched out here who are like completely like,

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um like it's actually desperate times maybe, uh, John, I hope

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they're eating and I hope they they're
eating. A recipe from the Accidental Dunning

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segue into new food blog. Yeah, that has been like fully been my

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distraction. I went out and stress
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on my old phone shit, and
the camera on my phone that is now

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somewhere in East London was gorgeous.
So I went out and stress bought myself

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a camera. I've just been taking
a pictures of food and just distracting myself

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with the food blog. People are
cooking the recipes, which is so nice.

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I kind of just to do these
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suckling and just expected nobody really,
like I didn't really adorn a meet people

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would actually go out and follow them. So yeah, that's been really sweet

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as nice. Has anyone been hospitalized
or not yet? Not yet, or

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no one's been released from hospital to
tell the story at least I forgot.

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I need to invite you from my
social media engagements. Spun speak to you,

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mate, Kim Kardashion. Yes,
yes, she said high. Actually

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she does, stay hi. She
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and she spells that with two k's. Guys, I just want to say

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I love your couliflower corma. But
I did, obviously, but thank you

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so much. Yeah, it was
like, Kim so good, thank you

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for joining us, Kim. Ok
you guys, guy, Oh my god?

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And what about your week, Connor, how's it been. It's been

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okay. I mean it's weird because
we got the news what day on Friday

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about like the quote unquote phases of
how our lockdown is going to proceed.

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So in some ways we're bring given
dates for things to move along, which

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is nice, but also for me, I found seeing all that on paper

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kind of sent me into a tizzy
because I was like I have to wait

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until this day, until this you
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think tomorrow is certain, Like you
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for exercises before you've been told within
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like you can now meet like three
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social distancing. So all the stuff
we're being told is like progressing, but

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it still has to involve quote unquote
strict social distancing, and bars and clubs

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are the last and a list in
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So like as a DJ, I'm
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to do so that I don't know, it's like day and after day.

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It's very different from me. There's
days I'm like, oh, bop,

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but I bet I'm doing my thing. I'm fine, And there's days where

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I'm like, okay, I got
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you know, like yeah, I'm
really not like trying. I mean,

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I'm married people who can be like
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like career goals in this time that
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like, you know, what I
did one email and that's enough for me.

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What you do the rest of the
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million dollar question, isn't it.
It depends. I've been trying to do

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like kind of boring admin stuff that
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and I still have a few like
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so I have to check in with
that, and I've been trying to figure

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out a podcast. I D and
do little bits. But some days I'm

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like, okay, this and this
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hours and that's at least something.
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and then if they don't work out, I'm not being myself up about it,

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but yeah, that's the freelance life. I suppose that's the thing.

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I think a lot of people think, you know, let's say that lockdown,

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the kind of current state of lockdown
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a lot of people are thinking,
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to the big gardens and the nightclubs
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of that transition is really scary because
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But we've never ever experienced before exactly. That's daunting for sure, and

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it's like nice to in some ways
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way the rs MUK response, I've
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period where you work on go,
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and everyone's kind of waiting, and
now having the dates is nice in

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one way, but I'm also like, when it was kind of like gone

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by the city of your pants,
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July and August, and now I'm
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like Dublin probably got moved to mid
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announced that they weren't doing it,
so it's little things like that, because

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for me that's a big higbit of
my year personally and professionally. So it's

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kind of been weird to see a
lot of stuff that would be sort of

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the pinnacle of like my DJ thing
every year just like be gone. And

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obviously, look there are far worse
things in the grand scheme of things,

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but just your hand in the stream, you know what that could happen,

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things of that nature, But like
they're most you're just like, for fuck's

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sake, what next now? It
is it's definitely a challenge, I think,

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you know, that's for me.
I think sometimes it's the creeping realization

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that this is like a longer term
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is a year thing, like rather
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like lockdown. It's just I don't
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point of stress, your mind actually
is very in the present. The idea

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of looking too far in the future
I think can become really stressful. You

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can get really overwhelmed with the idea
that this is a long term thing rather

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than a short term thing. And
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longer term thing, like yeah,
like these September dates being canceled like that

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makes me feel very nervous. Listen, if the pussy Goat Dolls really in

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Torre gets pulled, I will riot
and that's that's on t I'm like or

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whatever, I will kick doors down. They've already moved this. I can

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wait to November. But if I
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I will be disappointed that period because
I've got me period said Peri period.

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I was like period Perry Um and
spicy Rice. Oh what if what if

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this lockdown means because of a delay. What if Melody suddenly became available to

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do al thost like vocal trills like
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months of lockdown if she was suddenly
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this sort of like ohoh, what
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no, Nicole, honestly, I
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London's O two arena sold at nights
and the middle of buttons like the American

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Music Awards. She will just appear
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go the fuck? Yeah, she's
Nicole might try and do like you know

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on next Factor when she did that
with Jahim where she just a microphone away,

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so annoyed, she absolutely pressed,
how week being? My week has

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been like stressful of it because I've
just got loads of different I'm actually really

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busy at work, which is in
some ways it's like I'm lucky to have

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a working job, and I'm glad
that people are starting to book more online

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training with us, which is great, but they're booking courses which like I'm

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developing, which are brand new,
and so that's like adding another relevant to

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my job plause, like I usually
have so many other things in my life

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other than work, and so work
isn't this omnipresent thing. It's not what

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I think about when I first get
off or what I'm wondering about is I'm

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going to sleep? But because I've
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or even just be like engaged in, I am thinking too much about work,

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I feel. I think it's just
it's just really kind of taking over

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like a spare time to have and
because I can't leave the office because it's

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here, I find I'm finding that
work life balance really tricky to navigate.

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To be perfectly honest. This next
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once that's over, I've got some
really big products they're coming to them ahead

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and once that's over, I can
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routine in. But so works really
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um, that's stressed me up.
Plus now it's been on nights. He's

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on nights all this this week,
so that's just been, um, just

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a bit mustley pattern. I think
it's been a bit poked ab. Other

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than that, I mean it's all
mundane stuff really not very interesting. But

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yeah, but um, in a
mental health space, I definitely feel probably

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a bit bit better than I did
I have in previous weeks. Um.

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But there's been loads of interesting and
funship getting on this week to kind of

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keep me slash like distracted but entertained, and kind of quite a lot of

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drama for the girls. I really
feel like this week has um like people

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have more time to drag. Yeah, people are getting like like yeah you

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end of the tether stuff, Like
they get upset about the smallest things because

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where you know, in such a
difficult situation for sure, I mean definitely

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a point of drama which had us
gagging this week was when Attitude, well

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specifically the published an owner of Attitude, Darren's Styles, put out a tweet

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that said, if you don't stand
by your friends in times of need,

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and who are you why? I've
written a t Boris Johnson to explain that

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without Virgin Atlantic and Richard Branting,
there be no Attitude and the allies is

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such stature are worth protecting, and
so it's calling on the government to financially

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support Virgin Atlantic. Now it was
an OpEd, it wasn't. Yeah,

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like people have it definitely ruffled some
feathers, and like when people did kind

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of comment on it or critique the
magazine's position, they were kind they were

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blocked by Attitudes and like this is
like, um from journalists. LGBT journalists

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too, you know Harry Gay who's
probably doing queer house party, So people

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who were kind of relevant to LGBT
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What do we actually think about Well, I just want to say, as

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someone who attends the Attitude Awards,
I really like going and getting photographs of

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drag queens. So I'm not going
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the post for twenty twenties. No, I mean, obviously it is bullshit.

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the end. Yeah. I think, No, it's just weird because I

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actually I saw the the link to
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and then when I knew we were
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let me read the uphead just so
I can say I've read it,

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and like, I can understand that
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and that for lgbto outlets like Attitude, sponsorship is a huge driver,

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and that they probably were freaked about
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going and as they argued in the
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going. But it's one thing to
say we need this money. And the

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thing I found kind of calling about
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have with virgins, like you know, involvement in the deportation of lgbt Q

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like refugees, and people talking about
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and that surely he could move around
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the much. Now, I listen, I'm not a fucking economics x but

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I don't know if it's that easy, but it does seem like it could

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be that easy. So if it
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said, we are in a difficult
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publication can cover this, this and
this, and also we can understand these

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queer but for us it would mean
where instead it was this real like we

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have to get behind it, and
how dare you criticize it? And also

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it's one thing for an editor or
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outlet to share it, and maybe
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to look like the voice of publication, but it came off as very like

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one node and very toned down,
because there's probably writers on your staff who

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don't agree with you. So you
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publication have the publications social media to
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New York Times or like GQ or
whoever. It would be the individual editor

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or writer or there might be a
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like, you don't need to book
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I was also understanding their funding concerns, but I just thought the tone on

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social media and kind of waiting in
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donated this, It's like, that's
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if you were going to write that, you should have had someone else come

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in and pay them, pay them
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know, it was just very badly
handled, aside from the piece being a

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bit whack in and of itself,
yeah, yeah, sure, surely they

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could have just reached out, you
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got an audience and just been like, hey, listen, guys, we're

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not going to survive without this money, and try and raise money a different

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way. And the fact that it
was it clearly looked like it was the

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author of that piece and the owner
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the tweets is how it appeared.
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literally be able to act like the
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just it was just really really bizarre, and I think for me it was

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kind of telling of I suppose,
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of LGBT media. You know,
I'm test you an LGBT charity, and

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like many charities, they're hugely understraining
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terms of their corporate partnerships being completely
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hasn't been the same level of importance
placed on those real critical organizations as they

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have on protecting a multi multi million
organization that's owned by a billionaire which has

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dubious you know, links to light
this deportation. So I do I find

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it like it's jarring at best and
it's irresponsible at worst. I think it's

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just I think what's happened is it's
where one person has had a significant amount

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of power, has been able to
take over the socials. Yea, and

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it probably has done a disservice.
Two attitude staff who you know will quite

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rightly link this my damage our our
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news source. But of course that
they're probably an in survival mode, right,

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because you know that publishing does not

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make very much money. Magazines do
not make very much money. Newspapers do

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not make very much money. But
money is in the events you host,

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big things like the Attitude Awards.
You get a lot of sponsorship, You

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get a lot of people to give
you the food for free and the goodie

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bags to free, and the venue
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the venue look kind of LGBTQ friendly. So the event itself does not cost

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you a fortune to pay for that
money is going in this big kitty to

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kind of keep attitude of live.
Yeah don't want yeah, you don't want

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outlets to go. But also,
I mean, I think it's interesting,

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Josh, you mentioned the corporate side
of like lgbtwo representation and how like words

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like diversity and all the stuff have
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cash in. And I do think
the Attitude thing brought up that schism in

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the community too, where there are
people who are and whether you get I

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can understands that we might not like
the tone they may take in social media

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wars on like the tone the lease
or worries like the people who are saying

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listen, fuck you guys basically for
standing by this. We have real,

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actuals work to do. And then
the sort of the media space is tricky

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because I believe in the need for
representation for writers from the LGBTQ community to

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be employed. I mean, this
week MTV News shuddered tons of their staff,

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including all people who worked on New
Now Next, which was there like

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Logo TVs, lgbt online news source
that employed a lot of queer writers.

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don't I do think there's room for
glossy publications that cover lgbt topics. But

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there is that disconnect and you see
it even with like influencers and YouTubers who

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operate in that I'm an LGBTQ commentator, but they don't really move the needle

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or do anything other than kind of
use platitudes or the right few hashtags and

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look cute while holding a product in
a post. You know, it's just

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you're seeing that disconnect between what some
media thinks is LGBTQ and what people who

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are doing activism and are on the
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point is that you don't I don't
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a real trend of slacktivism where it
is like a case like you know,

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a corporate idea of what it means
to Yeah, representation is one thing in

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a sense of visibility, but if
you aren't really using your voice and kind

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of being disruptive and pushing pushing things
forward, then you know, what is

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what is the purpose just beyond us
opposed just that visibility? I completely agree,

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you know, and with publishing,
look at caased our News, gased

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our news just like all that was
was you know, a few sponsors.

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They you know, they didn't have
the same level of sponsorship. That was

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really a precarious situation they were in. And now we no longer have gased

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our news. Um and you know
we don't with so many like already this

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is going to impact quite spaces as
things and communities will probably move more online.

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We don't want, we don't want
to lose publications and outlets for people

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to to yet to share their work. Well, I think that also has

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to be some kind of there's got
to be I think, yeah, like

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an understanding of what people are going
through and it did really feel tone deaf.

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Yeah, it was just very corporate, and you guys mentioned it felt

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like it felt like hashtag spawning given
the tone right now how people feel about

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billionaire's being potentially bailed out with it's
like just that lack of reading the room

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before you get into the nitty gritty
of what have they maybe still behind or

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supported, Like just that lack of
reading the room people are struggling across the

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board was It's tricky because people are
in the mood. I've seen people top

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of supporting independent bookshops and creators and
Patreon. Think there's also desire. People

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have a spare of few kid they
don't want to see creative struggling. But

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so our attitude to come crashing in
it's on social like that just was so

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so disappointing because you're like, guys, read that backing room, Yeah,

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read it. And also there's just
something about why there you were on paying

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tax for the Virgin as well.
I think you know it's criminally underfunded.

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You know the legal complic as with
Virgin in the nhs UM. You know

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the fact that you know they don't
pay as much tax as they should be,

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and yet they're expecting government handouts when
we are as a nation going through

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something here where or n HS is
being you know, it's suffering and people

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are dying. It just feels completely
misjudged. And so I understand people's anger,

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but let's move on from that onto
something a little more light hearted.

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So I saw so a friend of
the pod, Matt Holwood, did hwe

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asking people what who they would cast
in their queer superhero films, which I

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kind of love this idea because I
really do think that there isn't I think

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within superhero films has there really been
that level of representation. I mean happening

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slowly but not hugely. I mean, I think Batwoman, which is on

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E four and as Ruby Rose is
the first one of the first kind of

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out superheroes in in DC. And
like there's been like Tessa Thompson Player like

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a ute unquote queer character, but
it was never properly revealed, like yeah,

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she was a bit blow great book. Yeah, listen, at this

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point, I'll take him whatever is
going exactly like, we'll make her Cockney.

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That sort of sounds a bit lesbian, is Yeah, that's amazogy British

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for listening. She had like a
bag of chips voice. Falconyding Falcony is

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class side. Bag of Chips looks. I don't follow her on social media,

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so I'll see the art photo every
so often, and I'm like,

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she's becoming like a Kardashian. It's
she doped bag of Jenna. I mean

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she looks like the you know,
the puppet from your Dolmo Day actually look

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like a puppet. Yeah, I
think it's a global all the same.

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Probably she looks bad, but it's
just there. It's really full on.

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Like I watched drag Queens in London
back in the day. I'm like,

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I know what Bagaup used to look
like. So I'm like, god,

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damn you got that Dragra's money.
Absolutely getting a fresh face. Literally.

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I saw her in a pantomime in
December, and basically but everyone just forgot

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their lines constantly. They hadn't rehearsed
enough. Everyone was getting re annoyed.

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But every now and again, Bag
of Chips would just sort of look to

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the audience and just say that she
took it up the ass, and everyone

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would just like laugh and I thing
was fine again. It was like it

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was like a reset. Every five
minutes. She's really great, She's got

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charisma. It was that could be
useful on this podcast. You know,

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you feel like there's some dead air
well, I take it up the ass.

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I think it's implied. I mean
that literally is. But yeah,

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I think superheroes haven't like there's a
slow push, but there's such big budget

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properties that I do think there's still
this fear of a queer character leading a

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superhero story because there's so much money
on object being with like Marvel and DC

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movies, and they put so much
money into them, which is a damning

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indictment in itself. But anyway,
absolutely no, and I think that is

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one of the biggest stock ups or
like gatekeepers for queer representation in just Disney

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films in general, because like you
know, they're not they will get edited

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even onward. They had that kind
of you know, the one eyed Cyclops

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lesbian character edited in so many countries
hasn't been shown in certain countries, and

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that was literally like one mention of
a girlfriend. But then, of course,

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I think the other thing is I
think sometimes film like there's a there's

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an apprehension around doing it because basically
that will be the entire narrative that drives

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the promotion of the film, even
with onwards that small bit pop that was

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really what got all the headlines true, all the memes as well, absolutely

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so many memes of that alien.
I was like, oh that was some

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onworth um. But yeah, so
like, who would you have? Who

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would you cast? Can cast four
people? Who would you have in your

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queer superhero movie? Oh? I
would say I would cast Scarlet Johnson four

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times. She would In one she
would play like a pan sexual. In

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one, she would play like an
Asian transsexual. In one she would be

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like a trans Yeah, an African
American pan She can play anything. Could

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she not be a tree at one
character? Yeah, that would be I

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am group she'd be grouped the intersex
tree. Wow, she's so talented.

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I'll tell you who import in mind? Yes, okay, So I so

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the four people I suggested was firstly
a friend of the pod, Jamie wind

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Dust, because I just thought that
actually they would turn some fucking yes yes

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makeup. It'd be a really good
villain. Oh yeah, they would really

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be They would serve they would they
would do that. Um, what who

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else did I have? I had? Indian more from from pose um I

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just think that they would bring the
sas, the attitude, they would kick

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some ass um. They would just
bring it. They deserve to every every

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ball. Um. Who else did
I have? Oh? I had,

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Oh I had Tightest, Bruce Tightest
andromedon of Kimmi Shi, Kimmi schmid fame.

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Yes, um, just because I
just think that they would be hilarious.

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They'd be so funny. Um,
no idea what the saperpower would be,

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but just for the gag. And
then Miriam mark Goolas as well.

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I love her name. I just
think that that would just be I just

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think it would be a hilarious movie. And I just I love her.

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Anything you've cast like a superhero comedy, I love it. You've cast like

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an action comedy for sure. Yeah, well do you know what. I'm

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not big into the series. I'm
not big. I'm not big action.

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I'm not big. Um. I
suppose I'm not really superhero movie girl to

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be honest, but that I think
that one I could get on board with.

407
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.839
What about you, Connor? Who
might you put in yours? So

408
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.000
I cheated slightly because when I saw
a superhero movie, I was like,

409
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.559
Okay, I'm gonna cast like if
they were doing another Charlie's Angels movie tomorrow.

410
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.839
I love was bye bye for this
so and actually my first pick as

411
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.400
someone who I think. I didn't
see the most recent one. I heard

412
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.079
mix things about it, but I
think that she's in like a post credit

413
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:56.799
sequence in the last Charlie's Angels.
But I would love to see la Verne

414
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.960
Cox and like a superhero yea is
yeah, yeah, she's so. I

415
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.920
was thinking already, that's like a
natural joining point. But like she obviously

416
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.400
was great and Orange as the New
Black, but like she has that kind

417
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.039
of dance and performance background, and
I would love to see her do like

418
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:15.759
fight scenes and that kind of chiography
because I think she would look incredible doing

419
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.240
it. And I also because I
never watched the original L Word properly because

420
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.079
I was kind of like I was
a teenager was on I never really got

421
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.319
into it. But I just just
watched the new reboot of it because it's

422
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.279
kind of a fresh jumping on point. I can't it's fun. It's on

423
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.720
now TV. If people want to
watch it like it is, it's both

424
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.000
kind of oh relatable queer stories and
diverse characters, but also there's that element

425
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.799
of like it is a little bit
of like a fantasy too, because they're

426
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.400
all in these insanely nice houses in
La it's kind of aspirational as well.

427
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.279
I like the mix of the two, but Kate I can never get her

428
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.559
certam like Kate Menni, who plays
Shane, who's like the ultimate like androgynous,

429
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.920
sexy lesbian, so sexy. I
was like, she could be like

430
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.440
the kind of roth chick in the
vein of like Drew Barrymore in the first

431
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.279
two Charlie's Angels movies, where she's
like everyone full can fancies her and she's

432
00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.440
really relaxed. And then I kind
of cheated because she's already in superhero movies.

433
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.799
But I would love see Tessa Thompson
in like a Charlie's Angels kind of

434
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:15.039
vibe, and then you could have, instead of having Charlie behind the speaker,

435
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.759
Charlie could be in real life and
played by Billy Porter, who could

436
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.839
also maybe beat some people up if
he felt, you know, can you

437
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.079
imagine he could do a whole seventies
and all because it's Charlie's Angels. I

438
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.880
mean, let's do this, Let's
make this movie happen. Wear this hat,

439
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.440
you could wear that sort of the
hat that kind of like opens up

440
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:43.000
to show his face every morning to
get Charlie Bears. Oh yeah, I

441
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.680
just think that's my kind of queerest
Charlie's Angels superhero romp and I wanted to

442
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:52.680
happen now. I love that sounds
a litt John Don any of the people

443
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.839
who you throw in, Do you
know who I think would be a great

444
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:02.400
villain? Lily Tomlin. Oh,
I think she would be such an amazing

445
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:08.719
villain. I absolutely love Lily Tomlin. With five of them being Grayson Frankie.

446
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.119
It's just one of those shows where
I feel immediately at peace, like

447
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.480
I don't know what it is,
but it just it just sent it grounds

448
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:24.400
me. I love it hugely.
I know what I've asked you boys this

449
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.760
probably a million times on this podcast
what your super power would be? And

450
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.920
I think we even talked about last
episode. Or won't ask you all again,

451
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.280
but I will ask you Connor,
if you could have any superpower,

452
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.800
what would it be? God,
I don't know, but probably something boring

453
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.159
like flying. I feel like to
be able to fly right now would be

454
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:46.679
so convenient. It's in my two
kilometers flying distance, like around the place

455
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.719
that would be so handy that a
teleportation to school would just really cut down

456
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.480
on things. Right now, it
would be very convenient. That would be

457
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.599
mine teleportation because I like the idea
of flying, but like it's cold up

458
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:08.440
there, so it's were cakes to
stay warm. Yeah, electric electric blanket

459
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:14.800
style. Okay, Well, like
we let's play the dorm I'm here for

460
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.880
And I do really feel like people
we like. I think it would get

461
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.400
the backing. I think there's so
many people who are fans of superhero movies

462
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.239
who walk with because it centers on
this feeling of being othered and not having

463
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.840
a place and the underdog, so
I think it's a natural fear. Also,

464
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:35.960
I think it's so weird that,
like, if you watch something like

465
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.280
Captain America Went to Soldier, the
whole film it centers around this huge,

466
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:47.639
like homoerotic relationship. There's sort of
real sort of unspoken love between these two

467
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.239
guys and like they do everything for
each other and blah blah blah, and

468
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.320
it's just so weird that the straight
people are sitting in the cinema eating their

469
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.360
kind of sort of popcorn kind of
being like oh my god, like man's

470
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.440
hashtag friendship goals. It's like,
no, they want to suck dick.

471
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.880
They want it. Captain America wants
to eat when a soldier's asked so badly.

472
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.360
Oh my god, Now that's a
movie I tuned in for. Were

473
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:21.320
these people watch that? Now?
Yeah? This is like what spoiler?

474
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.000
But like Winter, so don't don't
do this, don't don't don't drop a

475
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.880
big spoiler five years old. The
movie is like movie, it's like my

476
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.519
result, Yeah exactly, And also, yes, I'm not gonna it's not

477
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:37.719
gonna be like spoiler. They swallow
each other's come it is, OK.

478
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:45.079
Yeah, then I will not be
watching a lot of you are. How

479
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:52.039
weird is it that Chanelle the Parrot
was this week years ago? I said

480
00:36:52.079 --> 00:37:01.440
it will see it in Africa way
by the day. It's actually like like

481
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.360
I was just looking at it and
I was thinking, oh, I wanted

482
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.119
to talk about this, But it
feels like Chanelle has lived along and happy

483
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:14.039
life, and so was Sandra.
Let me tell you, Sandra has been

484
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.599
getting her out. She is trying
to like she is like coming for that

485
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:22.719
influence a gig girl, Like I
mean, straight away. I absolutely adored

486
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.400
the fact she was on Facebook,
Lifetime people to look for the power like

487
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:34.000
did everybody share this? Can everyone
share it? Do you say share it

488
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:36.480
far? And what? But you
know what, it really does feed into

489
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.880
that kind of cause my mum will
share, like, you know, share

490
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.679
thing lost dog and I'm like,
mom, this dog was lost in New

491
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:46.199
Zealand. Where it is? It
kind of feeds into that really, like

492
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:51.480
why would people be sharing it?
So for those who don't know, Chanelle

493
00:37:52.119 --> 00:38:00.280
isn't africking Clay who flew away from
her owner Sandra after there was some noise

494
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:06.159
in the back garden of some sort. She flew towards the canal and she

495
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.920
was retreating from there, but not
before like Sandra blew up online. I

496
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:13.280
mean I think a friend of the
pod, Jack Willington, did have a

497
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.679
lot to do it. Yeah.
I saw the initial tweet, like I

498
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:21.679
actually was online because I've been online
so fucking much like we all have.

499
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:23.559
I saw the initial treat and someone
had ripped U from Facebook. And at

500
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:27.800
first it's like should we really be
like ripping people's Facebook lies? And I

501
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.440
was like, oh, it's harmless
whatever, and like it had had like

502
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:35.360
twenty retweets and then literally it moved
so fast even it got like someone like

503
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.079
Jack doing really funny memes and love
of Huns finding it and then Jay Thurwall

504
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.880
lip sync into it and Sandra any
up on this Morning. I thought it

505
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.719
was a weird in how means go
from like one day finds it on Facebook

506
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.840
and then it ends up in the
national media like two days later, like

507
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.719
the chicking out because people are so
stirred for content and media companies are like,

508
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.159
it's not a Corona story. Put
it on, Like I just thought

509
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.760
that side it was so funny,
like she And that's why it feels like

510
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:02.719
it happened to one hundred years ago, because it's already had a life cycle

511
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.960
in the press years ago. Fucking
it's like the gay Uncle Tom, not

512
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:15.599
Uncle Tom, Captain Tom. Yeah, it's like the game age and that

513
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:27.000
really like where the captain who walked
around his garden, right, Yeah,

514
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.719
it's kind of like where the media
was season on nything. That's kind of

515
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.239
like a good news story. Yeah, and silly season vibes as well,

516
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.880
because there isn't going to be a
silly season this year, so anything to

517
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:38.920
kind of break that up. So
that was part of what made it so

518
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.440
hilarious to me, and to be
first, she embraced it very quickly,

519
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.960
because sometimes on people take other social
media and put it elsewhere. I'm always

520
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.079
like, are they aware that this
has happened? Like I don't want my

521
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.320
Facebook shit like over here. But
she's kind of ran with it. I

522
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.000
mean, it's not like the cocktail
stories when they were like, I get

523
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.519
that people find this funny, so
I'm going to let them have at us.

524
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:01.159
She wants to on Ellen. I
think there's always that sort of sense

525
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.119
where someone doesthing funny and then they're
doing it to try and get on Ellen.

526
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.840
I really like it when when do
you how you know it'll be on

527
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.840
something will be on Twitter, and
then it'll sort of filter through as like

528
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.760
a meme on to Facebook about three
months later when your aunt posts it and

529
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.760
then sort of like someone's like,
oh looking for the you know, looking

530
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.679
for my dog, and someone will
be like, oh, I'll keep my

531
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.440
eyes out. I live, I
live an next tone over and then the

532
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.400
person will be like, they're dead. We found it, but we found

533
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.679
it's called Yeah. At least Janelle
was like, that's kind of when I

534
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.119
saw that Channelle had come back safe, It's like, oh, if I

535
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:39.119
was sharing this name because like that's
how I felt. Yeah, it's not

536
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.039
like she's that there crime for days
and the part of dog or something.

537
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.599
I do think it does like I
did find it funny, I did enjoy

538
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.079
it, etc. But there is
a little bit of a whiff of classism

539
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.440
about it, but sort of like
the like I use inverted commas, but

540
00:40:55.559 --> 00:41:00.519
like this sort of like the common
you know, woman with like kind of

541
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.760
screaming down the street, Like it's
an element of like making fun of like

542
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.280
this working class woman with a parrot
culturelle. But I mean it was funny.

543
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:16.800
But then again, I suppose we
did make fun of that guy,

544
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.000
the middle class guy who was like
shouting for fending the dark. So it's

545
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.320
like, as long as we're making
fun of everyone, it's fine. And

546
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:30.079
also, do you know what I
think they're realistically like, I don't think

547
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:35.760
there has to be like a class
element if because the people who are sharing

548
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:37.320
it and finding it funny may well
have been of that class. I don't

549
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.960
think there was a like I think
this person is kind of clearly ridiculous.

550
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.679
They're an extra it on the street. They're shouting for the for the African

551
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.840
gray parrot, And so I do
think that, like they they she got

552
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:55.599
the attention she wanted. Yeah,
um, like unless it is like you

553
00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:07.039
know, like I don't think she
staged the Matthews moment. I think that's

554
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:08.840
a good point to bear in mind
because even like some of that hun stuff

555
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.599
is really funny, but like you
always have to try. I think it's

556
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.800
worth bearing that in mind because it's
like someone screaming about a power cutch and

557
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.039
now will be funny in kind of
any accent, but it's always like,

558
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:20.440
what else are we laughing at here? As as long as you're not going

559
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.039
to look at the state of her
exactly, yeah, that's what I mean.

560
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:25.840
Yeah, I think as long as
you're able to quickly go, wait,

561
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:29.559
why am I laughing? Even like
sometimes that like Miss Juicy, who

562
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.400
like does say some funny stuff and
is immediate personality, But sometimes that Miss

563
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.079
Juicy, I'm like, is the
joke. That's just she's a little person

564
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.079
like what Like, sometimes I'm like, this is funny because she's performing a

565
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:42.400
random pop song and it can't sing, so that's funny and it's l yeah,

566
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.840
yeah, iconic. And then sometimes
I'm like, you're just laughing because

567
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.760
she's a little person like it's just
that kind of we've got to find about

568
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.519
where, where, where the place
that it's coming from. Yeah, that's

569
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:57.840
what I think. I also I
think it's about who's laughing because in that

570
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:02.679
like Sandra was quick to get on
Facebook to we've gone viral. She loved

571
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.320
it, so she wasn't being laughed
at. She definitely was quickly laughing with

572
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.719
h she makes coin. I mean, if this is regular time, she'd

573
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.079
be able to go to g a
y and do pas or at least two

574
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:19.440
months. You can't join the gig
economy now, Sandra, I'm sorry,

575
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.679
base, We've no gigs for anyone. Hell, I did think that.

576
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.639
I thought that was that she was
going to be booked and busy over prime

577
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:31.079
season. But she should do cameo. She'd make a fortune cameo. She

578
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:39.320
should I had not sundraggy and looking
for you imagine amazing. Well, so

579
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.800
many people in now on cameo,
like all the drag race girls and now

580
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.960
one cameo because that's you know,
a quick way to any money. As

581
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:57.440
Elia Banks joined cameo today, call
my friend a faggott. Yeah, what

582
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:05.039
is what's cameo cameos where I'll just
give you actually where someone's where you can

583
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.800
get a personalized message from somebody,
all right, from a celebrity. So

584
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.159
I got one from Kim Woodburn for
my birthday. Oh yeah, yeah,

585
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.760
yes, oh my god. We
should do an on the latch cameo Tumbleweed.

586
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.880
We could be like, Hi,
it's your boy Gay Frasier or whatever

587
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.480
you do. You know, it's
well forty six episodes and you don't know

588
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:35.480
who I am. I don't see
color. Ah yeah right, um,

589
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.599
but we do, like just just
going back onto because you just mentioned Miss

590
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.719
Juicy and it's really front of mine. Sadly, we lost Miss Minnie this

591
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:51.960
week, another star of Women,
um who was hitting hitting run. You

592
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:58.679
may know her from means barnabetit um. Yeah, so yeah, so that's

593
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:05.000
a real loss. So just sort
of shout that out. Um. I

594
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.440
love when you laugh when you're when
you're uncomfortable, because like you say something

595
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:15.599
sweet and you're like, may she
rest in peace. That's the laugh that

596
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.719
I was like, I was listening, he up, be like that was

597
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:29.400
so unintentionally. May she restow yeah, all of our all of all of

598
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:37.760
our love to her family. So
it's hard though it's a natural thing we

599
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.280
all do. That Yes, You're
like, we'd all fucking do it.

600
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:42.480
It's like laughing at a funeral.
You're like, why am I doing this?

601
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.400
I know? And it's that kind
of and you can't laugh because you

602
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:46.559
know, you mean you start laughing. That's like the worst laugh, but

603
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.400
like in some ways the best,
the one thing you know you can't have.

604
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.599
Yeah, it was like it like
school when you were being shouting you

605
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.760
like hit one more word, and
it was just that kind of every everything

606
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:01.639
in your body was screaming to laugh
and laughter. Um, but yeah,

607
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:10.199
cheers for the memories on. Okay, So another another kind of uh kind

608
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:14.800
of controversy online I kind of want
to talk about is or Well. I

609
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.480
think it was a huge success.
I don't know if anyone everyone's watched it

610
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:25.519
or RuPaul's drag Race. This week
there was a super fan makeover and the

611
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.519
super fans were all they were all
women, And there was quite a few

612
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:37.239
snarky comments online really talking about how
RuPaul's Drag Race fan base has basically changed,

613
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.800
how it's become mainstream, how essentially
by having the all these women's super

614
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.119
fans on it, it's kind of
lost its edge. Um, and so

615
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.599
can I just get and I think
broadly like I think, well, there

616
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.400
was a real mixture. I think
of people's opinions, what do you think

617
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.199
here on on that kind of sentiment. I loved that so much. It

618
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:06.039
was so lovely and pure, and
I stand at Janet the Planet so hard,

619
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:10.480
and I'm so sad that she was
stuck with sherry Pie. Yeah,

620
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.760
I was so sad. I bet
she was bought the whole season, like

621
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.800
fucking hell. I threw her fingers
like oh no, knowing that it was

622
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.400
coming, and the episode was so
nice. I cried. It was just

623
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:27.000
so sweet and I don't think there
was anything wrong with it. And have

624
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:35.000
more straight women on drugs, they
don't do that. But you get like,

625
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.440
yeah, I think we're just we've
become so used to kind of feeling

626
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:49.159
suppressed and repressed and not supported by
kind of global community of non LGBT blah

627
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.000
blah blah, that we've kind of
gone the other way, and now you

628
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:53.559
know, we like some of these
people tweeting, oh, you know,

629
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.320
drug craze isn't for women. It's
like, what if we were told that

630
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.599
something wasn't for us, like we
were quite rightly get really angry if people

631
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.320
were like, oh, gay's watching
the wire? How dare you are they

632
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:19.440
more than eleven the sopranos, I
don't know, like oh their head shows,

633
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.760
let's say, yeah, exactly,
Like I can watch mad Men.

634
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.519
It's fine. I mean mad Men
I thought was calmed to be bad.

635
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.480
What do you think? Yeah?
I saw the initial tweet that went around

636
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:36.519
was like, I it bothered me
in one way because it was like a

637
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.280
still of the from the episode before
we'd seen it, calling out these women

638
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.400
and assuming they were all cists and
straight, and like one of the girls,

639
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:49.000
that girl I remember her name name, but gegis partner basically was on

640
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.239
social media even like what everyone assumed
I'm straight when I'm not so thanks.

641
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.280
But I thought that was like if
we had seen the episode and it turned

642
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.280
out to be a stinker and there
have been some weird like oh they given

643
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.440
too much room to sis heap people
in a kind of pandering way, than

644
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.079
I would have understood that from in
one way, but it was like one

645
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.360
screen grab and this kind of like
I'll tell you from someone who's worked in

646
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:15.480
gay nightlife for ten years, I've
definitely had bad experiences with cis heap people

647
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.679
in clubs, and I've had that
horrible cliche experience of like cissette women treating

648
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.199
you like it's a petting zoo when
they come in head life. And I've

649
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.280
also had and I still have tons
of friends who were a straight CIS women

650
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.079
who get it and our allies,
and it's not even that kind of serious

651
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:31.159
a thing where we're like, you're
an ally. It's more like I know

652
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:34.559
you get it and you have my
back and vice versa. So, like,

653
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.880
I do think there's a nuanced conversation
to be had about how some sis

654
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.760
heat people come in and like don't
have that level of cop on that sorry,

655
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.760
that's an Irish term like understanding that
they should have. But I just

656
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.119
don't think that this tweet and this
set up with drag Raus is the right

657
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.679
place to have that combo. And
I don't even think the poster initially thought

658
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:58.079
of how there's an internalized misogyny and
a kind of stupidity to that, because

659
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.519
also like it'd be different. Our
Grace was a super underground filmed on an

660
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.960
iPhone. Yeah, one of the
most popular reality shows ever made. It

661
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:09.159
has been on air for over ten
years. If you want to being a

662
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:13.559
sellout, that show was a sellout
about seven seasons ago. Anyway, exactly,

663
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:16.719
it's also just they're gonna have the
Gimmicklin's an make up episode. Sometimes

664
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.639
it's they're all YouTubers. Sometimes it's
their army veterans, like they're never gonna

665
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:23.920
like they don't cast the makeover a
challenge that way, because the point is

666
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.880
that it's meant to throw. It's
meant to be a challenge on a reality

667
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.480
show. And I just think I
understand. I think sometimes the conversation of

668
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:36.880
the female fan base is also aimed
at young kind of teenagers online and that

669
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.280
perception that some of them are just
trolling and on social media all day.

670
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:44.639
And I'm like, there may be
a grain of truth in some younger teenagers

671
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:46.840
come to the show and they don't
have the same kind of relation to Drive.

672
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.559
But also that's what happens when things
go mainstream or go to new audiences.

673
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:53.239
Like you have to understand that people
come to things and they have a

674
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.880
different experience. So all the women
on the show that we saw, I

675
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.800
felt like they all had an affection
for and a support for drag and it

676
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:06.000
mean something to them which goes beyond
draggers. There's always been like people who

677
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:07.920
earned queer, who've gone to drag
shows and gotten it. And I thought

678
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:13.639
Jada had a moment where she talked
about like people come up to me like

679
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.639
and she don't be even pre draggers
and being a performer like three years and

680
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.519
people to her and supporting her and
how important that was. And I'm like,

681
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.519
that's what those women exemplified. So
I found it an odd starting point

682
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.639
because I do think there's a comma
to be had about like the Hen party

683
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.159
piche and I could give you a
list of bad experiences have had, but

684
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.360
I felt like using it through the
prism of those women felt really off.

685
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:35.719
And then when we watched the episode, as like, this feels even more

686
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.880
off to me. Yeah, that
was a rant. Sorry, No,

687
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:44.599
it's true exactly watched me go.
No, I completely agree with everything that

688
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.920
you've just said. It was a
hugely moving episode. And I really do

689
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.599
you think that actually, if we're
talking about relationships like for many many gay

690
00:51:53.679 --> 00:52:00.199
men I know myself, actually these
sists straight women have in our first allies

691
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:06.280
in lots of times, um,
And I think you're absolutely right. This

692
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:10.280
is a complex and nuanced discussion about
how people are treated in certain spaces,

693
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:15.400
um like, and there's definitely you
know, I think there was always a

694
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.440
bit of a like, you know, a stereotype of straight women in LGBT

695
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:23.159
venues of kind of hen dues and
you know, clawing and grabbing and not

696
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:30.320
being respectful to performers. But I
definitely think that that's that's like a minority

697
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.199
of people, and that actually,
as the demographic of the fan base has

698
00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.880
shifted, like, that is not
the cases at all. And actually,

699
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:44.199
if we're thinking about disrespectful and you
know torch, like many drag queens will

700
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:47.320
say that, actually that isn't women
really being respectful personal space, that's that's

701
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:51.599
of other other men and gay men. And when we think about who's actually

702
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:55.800
buying tickets, because drag is a
business now and it's a really a world.

703
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.760
Yeah, yeah, when you're thinking
about who was buying those tickets,

704
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.199
who was you know, buying the
virch she's making the fanel that's he actually

705
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.880
a broad demographic. And so I
think by trying to I think it's a

706
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.239
natural inclination. We are modinalized within
too side. We have a few shows

707
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.400
that where we feel represented, But
I really don't think by trying to gate

708
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:21.960
keep and making assumptions about women's sexuality. We're going to do it, yeah,

709
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:27.079
and it's it's nuanced because like I've
had annoyance history would be like yes,

710
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.559
Hunty, I watched drag Race and
I'm like, oh whatever. But

711
00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.639
it's like I know, like that's
also kind of not drag racist fault either,

712
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:37.280
Like that's going to happen, like
when things move along with things go

713
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.440
mainstream, it's not kind of always
the fault of the thing that started that

714
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:43.920
people don't always get or do the
background check like I saw. And actually

715
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.480
it's interesting you mentioned the fan bases
and support, Like I saw one queen

716
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:51.840
from Chicago lote On, who was
talking about She was saying how like there

717
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.920
was a there were women in Chicago
who started a database of open coming drag

718
00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.920
performers and where they work so they
could all organize and go see their shows

719
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.039
because in the US queens rely on
tips. So like when you talk about

720
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:06.079
support, like financial support means a
lot more to American and Canadian drag performance

721
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.599
because of how drag works in different
countries. And they were saying like that

722
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:14.480
was an example of women across different
sexualities and identities banning together on we love

723
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.519
these entertainers that's given them our money, and Lowton was saying, like,

724
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:20.239
I see, I don't see a
lot of gay men bitching about this,

725
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.639
putting that kind of where we're all
into funding our drug either way, so

726
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:27.360
like what you expect from us.
So like I definitely think it's a bigger

727
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.280
convo, and drag Race is useful
for these shots sometimes even though it can

728
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.079
feel like we all analyze drag Race
way too much. And we'd be great

729
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.239
to have more shows in this lane
so they didn't all fall on drag Race,

730
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.199
but it is a nice comm I'd
be able to have hugely And I

731
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:44.599
think you know that like these shows
that represent a group within society. So

732
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.119
from that, like if you think
about Blackish or black A, Yeah,

733
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:51.519
at the moment, there's a similar
discourse around when there's a group that's marginalized

734
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.719
or isn't as well represented, there's
an expectation that they have to be all

735
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:59.760
things to all people. All there's
a great responsibility for the show because actually

736
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.920
is the vehicle to have these kind
of conversations. But what we really need

737
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.760
is more shows where more people are
represented. I think, So there isn't

738
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.960
just this huge pressure on one show
and also make it a starting point because

739
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.320
like I can remember so clearly the
first drag show I sawns other than about

740
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:21.880
probably about twelve maybe fifteen years ago, but there was a jump in time.

741
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:23.559
But like you know, like drag
Race, I love, and I

742
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.239
also know it's not the sum total
Dragon. I think it was Tricksy who

743
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.760
said this energy is a few times
actually like and it's a good analogy.

744
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:34.639
She's like saying you like Dragon only
watching drag Race is saying you like music

745
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.800
on your You watch American Idol like
it's one thing. It's only one fast,

746
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.320
very dark form. So it's like
absolutely their queens and drags I stand.

747
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.280
I love seeing the big glossy shows
they put on. But also like

748
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.559
I know local performers and jumbles who
are all obviously now happened to really innovate

749
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:51.559
because they can't work at Venus and
around the world, you can seek out

750
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.880
and watch their stuff online and tip
them and buy merch. So like,

751
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.480
if you have an issue with drag
Race coming in and changing the game,

752
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:00.239
like, well, then put your
money where your out is. If you

753
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.599
can even just retweet other performers who
don't have the backing of a TV show,

754
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:07.760
and I think now it's a really
great time to support drive from your

755
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:13.559
homes. There's so many different bingoes
events, live streams, and so now

756
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:17.559
he's a real great time to find
out about local performers and be financially support.

757
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:24.079
Okay, it's exactly that's too sweetie. Um honey, we do have

758
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:29.159
a question um this week, and
so I want to jump right into that

759
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:34.559
if that's okay with your Yeah,
okay, So this came from the Curious

760
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:44.639
Car season. Want to drag racy? K Oh wow, I should say

761
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:46.280
this isn't scaredy cat, or at
least I don't. I don't think it

762
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:52.440
is so okay. Um, Hi
guys, long time listener, first time

763
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.920
right here. Love the podcast and
you boys always make me smile, so

764
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:00.119
thanks for that. I have a
bit of a weird one, so please

765
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:07.079
don't judge me. When lockdown happened, I moved in with my mom to

766
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:13.599
isolate. She lives with my stepdad
and two of his kids. My stepbrother

767
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:17.480
also moved into my mum's place for
lockdown. We didn't grow up together but

768
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.679
really bonded or anything. Oh my
god, Sean Cody, it's so nice

769
00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:34.679
to hear from you. He is
also gay. Anyway, two weekends ago,

770
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.960
after a lot of booze and the
family went to bed, we ended

771
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:40.800
up hooking up, and I mean
the way in the living room. I

772
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.800
hate to say it, but it
was really hot. I think being keeped

773
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:52.039
up, round up and very drunk
all had a part to play. We

774
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.800
didn't speak about in the week,
which was really awkward. But the thing

775
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.159
is the same thing happened again this
weekend. Just gone, Oh, I

776
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:01.679
don't know what to do. Oh
my god, I know what to do.

777
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:06.639
Hold on, it's probably just a
foot up quarantine thing, but I

778
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.760
am borried I might actually stuck starting
to catch feelings, or Mike stot to

779
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:14.360
catch feelings, or if this carries
on. I know if we get caught,

780
00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:16.400
it'll probably freak my mom and the
rest of the family out. But

781
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:21.159
as there's no escape at the moment, it feels like pressure cooker. So

782
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.360
any advice on how to deal with
this, how to not catch feelings,

783
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:28.800
or even what to say if my
mom finds out would be welcome. Please

784
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:34.039
don't take another year long break.
Imagine he sent that question in any year

785
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:44.599
later, He's like, I'm married
now, we're married. So what does

786
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:55.559
everybody vase? That was lowky hot? I'm gone. Family. There's a

787
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:00.000
really really important academic text that you
can refer to when it comes to this

788
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:07.199
sort of thing, and it's,
um, it's called cruel intentions. So

789
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:13.679
Ryan, Philip and Sarah Michelle Geller
obviously Catherine and Sebastian. Katherine uses that

790
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:19.360
sort of step brother desire to get
Sebastian to do whatever she wants with a

791
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.639
promise that he can and I quote
put it anywhere. So what I would

792
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:30.119
do is use this power that you
have to get like things and anything that

793
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.760
you need done, you can be
like you can fuck me dat a step

794
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:44.440
brother. Um, that's why would
studying and heartfelt advice. Like one thing

795
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.639
I will say is straight out of
the gate, like step siblings. They

796
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:51.400
all like there's like for some people
it's your steps are like is your brother

797
00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:54.800
or your sister they're You're like they're
like your lord relation And the idea of

798
00:59:54.880 --> 01:00:00.280
having anything romantic or even sexual is
like like so far off cards or and

799
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:05.639
it's it's unreal. In this situation, it seems that they don't know each

800
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.760
other that well, or that's the
impression I get obviously, but they've seen

801
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.599
each other Christmas. I don't know, but like they haven't. I don't

802
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:14.920
think they've. We didn't grow up
together, so they're not grown up together.

803
01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:22.559
Yeah. Um, I don't think
it's great, not like I don't

804
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:24.920
know what to say in terms of
that part of it, because as you

805
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:30.559
say, it feels like a particular
setup where it's not like they're like brother

806
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.480
brothers and they've grown up beside each
other. It does it isn't for me,

807
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:36.760
I will say. But also I'm
not in that situation, so I

808
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:42.119
don't know. I do think the
catching feelings thing is probably just the circumstances,

809
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.480
and that if it were shot up
with some other random gay guy that

810
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:50.079
you'd had a fling with, whether
there was the sort of relation shift they're

811
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.960
already. I think we can say
relation. I think we can say related.

812
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:57.639
Yeah, I don't know what to
say, like I'm like related,

813
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.320
Like I mean, I I don't
know. Obviously we're going off what we've

814
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.119
been told. But I mean,
what is catching nias? Is that like,

815
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.199
Oh, they're hotter than I realize. Is it? Oh, I

816
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.239
actually think you're a nice person and
we could date after this? Is it

817
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:14.360
just god, I want to just
I'm just like lusting our you NonStop because

818
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.559
there's nothing else going on. I
mean, I don't know, and then

819
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:20.840
you have the layer of being caught
like that is it's not it doesn't think

820
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.760
they're living in like, you know, a palatial mansion her so like no

821
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:27.840
shape, but like as in like
we're all in normal size places trying to

822
01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.599
make contain spaces work with like groups
of people. So that's that is a

823
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:37.159
challenge, you know. And so
actually if it's him his mom's stepdad,

824
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.719
and I don't know, if he's
one of the two siblings, like,

825
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.440
yeah, I think I've made it
a lot weirder they needed to be,

826
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:46.559
they know, when they don't know
each other. Obviously it's not ideal.

827
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.960
I'm not saying we should all go
banging our step from his insistence, but

828
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:55.239
my stepbrother is quite attractive. Actually, oh no, I wouldn't, but

829
01:01:55.519 --> 01:02:00.440
I wouldn't have sex them. I've
only met him. Oh you can ever

830
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:02.840
know him quarantine, Yeah, I
know, I don't think. I don't

831
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:06.239
think he's dead, but as yeah, exactly like you and if you're in

832
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:09.039
a house together, no, I
mean yeah, I just I mean,

833
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:13.159
like, don't you know, don't
be hardened yourself that you've done this,

834
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.199
but like I probably, yeah exactly, I would try, I would try

835
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:22.920
not to get cool. Yeah,
I don't know. I mean, now

836
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:30.199
that they've goferably the expression but like
broken seal, like what I feel like

837
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:34.239
I was gonna say, cross the
line is a as a more delicate phrase,

838
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.280
like now that they've sort of crossed
that boundary and there's that sort of

839
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:39.039
thing that they can have a hook
up, like, I don't I don't

840
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.719
know how easy it will be to
draw that line back again, because you

841
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.840
are in a contained space, and
I don't know, there's only miss so

842
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:49.039
many nights someone can draw up their
pillow. I guess like they're gonna probably

843
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.800
you know, they're going to probably
fall into bed together again. I just

844
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.800
maybe it's more like you either don't
for the sake of your feelings or you

845
01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.159
I think you need to have a
conversation with them along the lines of is

846
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.440
a little bit mad we've done this. I'm a bit confused. Maybe it's

847
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:07.719
just quarantine catching feelings where are you? Because that actually might save some herdache

848
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.360
down the line. Although a conversation
of they're in the gaff I don't know,

849
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.039
but like, I think they need
to have a chat about it either

850
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:20.199
way, Yeah, like usual hour
long walks just saying no, if you've

851
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:22.679
found the time to fucking play that, you can find the time to chat

852
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.800
and play it. That's true.
Yeah, but I would say go on

853
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.199
a walk in case you don't want
anyone over hearing. Um. I mean,

854
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:32.679
I would say I completely agree with
you. Con I think you do

855
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:37.599
have to have an actual conversation about
it. Like the more that it's something

856
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:39.840
that's just unsaid, you're not talking
about it, but you're just fucking that's

857
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:45.800
not gonna be I think by talking
about it might remove some of the feelings

858
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:49.480
that you might be catching because because
it feels like you're not talking about it

859
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.159
and it's secretive and it's too that
might be part of the draw to it.

860
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:55.800
And once you actually talk about what's
happened, you kind of shine a

861
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.480
light on it. Actually vocalizing what
you're doing. That might make it feel

862
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:04.039
a more real and you might get
a bit more clarity on on what it

863
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:09.719
actually is. Um or focus on
how annoying they are to live, Like

864
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.480
do they too really loudly? Yeah, they're like, oh, they've fired

865
01:04:13.480 --> 01:04:15.800
all the time. I'm sure you
can de miss to fire them real fast,

866
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:29.840
like do they do they used to
be king, Oh god, I'm

867
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:31.880
going to hell. I'm going to
hell. And if all else fails,

868
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:36.920
only fans girls. Yeah, that
sounds like John really first to sign up

869
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:45.000
straight away. You're like, well, John's pointing his old phone to some

870
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:53.480
new use. Also, I would
like to say if if the person from

871
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:57.880
I think our first ever episode,
who Fucked Their Cousin, if you're listening,

872
01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:01.199
I would love to hear about how
that resolved itself. Are you married

873
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.760
now? We never know he was
already married. The cousin was married,

874
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:08.639
if you remember guy, Yeah,
but maybe he left the cousin to be

875
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.239
with the cousin, you know whatever
was he getting married or straight marriage?

876
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:16.800
Straight marriage and had a kid and
with his cousin. Oh my god,

877
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.840
it was that. Now, that
was a ride. That was that was

878
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:26.400
That was our first ever dinama.
Imagine you always come back to incests,

879
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:30.199
isn't that? Yeah? I mean
when the ratings drop, you know exactly

880
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:41.400
the ratings drop. That was our
second episode. Bang literally yeah. I

881
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.119
mean in terms of explaining it to
your mom, I mean, I don't

882
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:46.880
think that's going to be a simple
conversation like your mom's try and avoid that.

883
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:50.000
Yeah, don't do it, just
don't just that. I'm like,

884
01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:57.039
that is definitely something that even just
yeah, that could create a lot of

885
01:05:57.159 --> 01:05:59.920
changing because you just don't have people
are going to react and you can't read

886
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.000
go anywhere right now. It's not
like, oh, I'm gonna go stay

887
01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.280
somewhere else a few days while you
cool off about this. That you don't

888
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:08.800
have that options. So yeah,
I would say though, like I know

889
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:11.960
that it's not like government guidelines or
anything, but like if you did get

890
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:17.039
to a point where it was very
uncomfortable and detrimental, do go somewhere else,

891
01:06:17.239 --> 01:06:23.239
Like yeah, I should just say
that, like you know, officially,

892
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:27.079
yeah, yeah, I would agree
with that, but like I mean,

893
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.840
I just think, don't beat yourself
up too much about it. These

894
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:34.840
are really unprecedented times you're in really
a united situation. Like I'm sorry,

895
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:39.559
but probably a few I'm sure there's
some thirsty days listening if they had a

896
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:49.000
rogue steps from some of the conversations
that I'm seeing happening online. Everyone's exactly,

897
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:51.880
but there is something around you know, shit where you were, and

898
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:57.639
that I would say you are absolutely
doing in this case. Yeah, I

899
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.119
just love the idea the way you
were like you now it is unpressed times

900
01:07:00.119 --> 01:07:05.679
I try and explain experience. You
know, it's a crazy time. I

901
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:11.000
mean, we fox but like,
hey, we're just laughing a few months

902
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:13.800
and this is like I love that, Like, hey, mom, listen,

903
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:18.679
can I talk to you? Imagine
the mom was like we're like girls,

904
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:21.320
cliche of mom's and Americans like,
oh, what's a pandemic? Who

905
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:28.199
cares? Like whatever? You don't
even know him? It's fine, knock

906
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:34.440
yourself out. Yeah, come on, honey, I am like, I

907
01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:38.480
hope it turns out well. I
think for me, Like you've just got

908
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:43.039
to protect your feelings. Yeah,
like this, like, I mean,

909
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.599
I don't want to say that there's
not a future, but I think it

910
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:47.920
would be a I do. I
want to say that there's not a future.

911
01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:55.880
Don't don't just don't do it.
Love winds Hello friends, love,

912
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:00.559
laugh, laugh, Imagine that a
love is love. Mom, don't mean

913
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:13.239
homophobic? I love like I'm not
homophobic. I'm incestorphobic. Oh god,

914
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:17.720
oh god. Um well I hope
that answered your question. Basically, thank

915
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:23.479
you for the rivening. Can't you've
given us the biggest last ye and okay,

916
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:28.479
yeah, wow, we're right here, you know what I mean.

917
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.520
So like the gallows humor of it
all. Oh true? Um okay,

918
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.760
so please please please, I would
love to hear an update on that one.

919
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.640
Can I come back home if the
update has been given? John would

920
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.239
like an update. John would like
a private update. Very quiet the last

921
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:51.279
few minutes. What's going on?
Yeah, sorry, guys, had to

922
01:08:51.359 --> 01:09:00.239
take a phone call. Um,
okay, one last thing before we go,

923
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:02.760
because you are a DJ and I
would love to hear what songs are

924
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:09.920
getting you through this quarantine period.
Okay, well obviously, I mean I

925
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.039
kind of half thought we might even
just talk about this anyway. Megan the

926
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.199
Stallion having the remix and Beyonce for
Savage was amazing because I mean, I've

927
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.000
been into Megan's music since kind of
last year, and I feel like in

928
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:23.680
the last two years she's like I
remember last year, so many people talking

929
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:26.439
about her like organically, like I'd
be on social media and some people will

930
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:28.479
be just sharing her songs. I
was like, I need to get into

931
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.159
this chick. She seems really amazing
and obviously Savage because of TikTok has become

932
01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:35.039
a huge hit, and now I
just think this Beyonce remix is the perfect

933
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:38.520
time for the song because it's blowing
up, but this will probably push it

934
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.960
even further. They're both from Houston. It's a fundraiser for like COVID nineteen

935
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.560
efforts and kind of fundraising in Houston. So I love that it's actually a

936
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.760
Charlie single that will make real money
for like a cause of who you need

937
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:54.000
to support. And I just love
when Beyonce kind of like reaches out to

938
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.760
a newer artist and says like I'm
putting you on, I think you're great,

939
01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.159
and Megan has been so like like
cheered by and like humble and kind

940
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:04.199
of like like blown away by getting
to work Beyonce. That it's really heartwarming.

941
01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:06.520
And it's also just three makes.
It's a proper banger, Like it's

942
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:10.680
a proper reimagining of the song,
and like it adds all these elements in.

943
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:13.319
It's not just like, oh yeah, eight birds and my guest.

944
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:16.520
It's like she's really like added something
to it. So that song definitely the

945
01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:19.119
last few days, and I feel
like it's going to be my little may

946
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:23.840
Bop now to get me through the
next few weeks. Oh absolutely. I

947
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:27.000
mean, if you follow me on
the ground, you will have seeing Like

948
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:30.560
I listened to it for the first
time while I was making dinner and now

949
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.199
came back from work and saw me
through the window, absolutely like throwing boss,

950
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:42.880
like losing it candidly. I cadn't
go. I was like, oh

951
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.840
my god, clop it's a bop. Yeah, yeah go. Also,

952
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:50.359
Rina Sayama's album is amazing, Like
I know, I feel like a lot

953
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:53.319
of people are talking about her and
if you haven't listened to her, like

954
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:55.880
oh, shut up gaze. But
like it is a great pop album,

955
01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.800
like it's like two thousands R and
B. But it all feels kind of

956
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:04.439
futuristic and poor thinking, Like it
kind of feels like it's a different album

957
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.279
to Julipa's Future Nostalgia. But I
feel like they do the same thing.

958
01:11:08.359 --> 01:11:12.439
They're pulling from that decade and then
doing kind of current contemporary pop. So

959
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:14.640
I think if you like do A's
album, I think you might find something

960
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:16.880
in Arena's. There's also a guy
called Sonoku I hope I'm saying his name

961
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.520
hight s n i k Ku.
He's worked with like Little Boots and Great

962
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:25.600
Curson and all these kind of Yeah, so she's call wrote a bunch of

963
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:28.800
songs that are on his albums.
He's worked with Liz, who's this kind

964
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.760
of like alternative pop star. There's
a lot of like Britney style stuff.

965
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:34.840
So his album it's like these kind
of like eight these references in video game

966
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:38.760
soundtracks and this this kind of banging
dance pop album. There's a track called

967
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.119
Sweat with Liz, which was one
of my favorites the last year. That's

968
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.960
Sophie remixed, and there's some really
great electro pop on that album, and

969
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:46.880
it's really well produced, and I'm
kind of like, I feel like in

970
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.159
a few years time he will be
producing every big pop single. And he's

971
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:55.199
like this kind of self made queer
DJ from London who's like making these bangers.

972
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:59.920
So it sounds a bit pretentious on
London and DJ and the Grand Yeah,

973
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:01.439
but it's actually the music is pure
pop. It's like you're like,

974
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.880
Kylie could sing all these songs and
they will be bops. So Snoku is

975
01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:13.279
definitely worth checking out as well.
One points so good and she like I've

976
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.560
listened some of her songs on and
off of the years, and I've liked

977
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:17.720
her music. But I feel like
having this album, it's like she's funneled

978
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:21.159
all into a specific point of view
and it's really rewarding and the album flows

979
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:24.560
and it makes sense. So I
think it's going to be a bit of

980
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:29.560
a breakthrough in terms of her finding
more fans and stuff for sure. Also

981
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.600
shout to Lindsay Lohan back to me
is a box. I'm just saying,

982
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:39.680
yes, like this what twenty needs, like a Lindsay comeback. Like it's

983
01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:45.279
I like her voice, Like I'm
not saying she's Whitney or Mariah Agree,

984
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.760
you can actually sing it. I
think she weirdly her tone of voice in

985
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.680
the era of like du Aleipa and
these kind of husky voice pop stars,

986
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:55.279
it sort of fits in. And
the song was written by all Man.

987
01:12:55.359 --> 01:12:58.560
It sounds like to me, it
sounds like one of those random dance songs

988
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.039
you'd hear on Love Island that becomes
like a top ten chart hit. Like

989
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.800
it's a bit kind of camp and
dancing and throw away. Also, there's

990
01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:08.760
a K pop pop circled Chung Ha
who's dropped a song called stay Tonight,

991
01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:12.199
and it's like if Brittany and Kylie
had a baby and made an electro pop

992
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.680
banger. The video is one of
the best things I've seen all year.

993
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:16.880
So even if you're not into K
pop or find that kind of overwhelming because

994
01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:19.920
there are so many acts, I
would watch that video. It is jaw

995
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:26.880
dropping, absolutely Gaggerina at that video
I think you shared on on your social

996
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.439
Yeah, I became obsessed. I
was like, I've watched this like eight

997
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:31.039
times in a row. It's just
there's a K pop videos. They've got

998
01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.199
like choreography and like budget, so
they're like, let's throw it all the

999
01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:38.680
wall and you're just like, oh
my god, this is stunning. Yeah.

1000
01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:42.039
Can I also just give a shout
out to the the new Jojo album?

1001
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:46.880
Oh yeah, John, I mean
John goes out with a JoJo's done,

1002
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:50.640
so I'm assuming you've heard it.
Oh. It has been on loop

1003
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:58.520
since Friday. It's just been constant, NonStop. It's fine some bangers actually

1004
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.600
some bangers on there because it's very
R and B. And do you know

1005
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.479
what, she got a shout out
from Mariah Carry And I think it's kind

1006
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:10.399
of similar to what you were just
talking about with Megan the Stallion getting a

1007
01:14:10.439 --> 01:14:15.359
shout or like get being really like
push forward by an icon like Beyonce,

1008
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.880
like she's from Houston, Beyonce from
Houston. It's a huge it's a huge

1009
01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:27.319
deal. And also Beyonce also shared
something celebrating Megan the Stallion's mum's birthday.

1010
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:31.560
I think that was today of Dave
recording, because her mum died tragically I

1011
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:36.479
think a year ago, just as
Meghan was really making it big. Her

1012
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:42.159
mom was also a rapper and was
a real like hugely important in Meghan's career

1013
01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:45.319
and was a big Beyonce fun So
I think Megan kind of spoke about that.

1014
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.880
But similarly with Jojo and with Mariah
is a big supporter of her.

1015
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:56.039
Who's having a suite in the background, Oh my god, I'm sorry.

1016
01:14:56.079 --> 01:15:00.800
I didn't know you could hear me
too. Gum sounded Likeward Smart would like

1017
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:08.760
someone's having a drepsul. I was
like that drying, persistent comphony. I

1018
01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:12.439
like when Mariah shouts out an artist
because obviously we joke about I don't know

1019
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.640
her in the Mariah shade, but
Mariah is very particular about like there's that

1020
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:18.920
amazing Like when she was on What
Happens Live a few years ago and Andy

1021
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:23.560
kOhm basically went through a list of
pop singers that she knew or didn't know,

1022
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.039
and all the ones that she said
she liked. It was like,

1023
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:28.439
oh, they're very nice. They
came to my show, they said hello.

1024
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.159
It's like anyone who kind of kisses
the ring with Mariah, she's like,

1025
01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.920
I see you and I support you, and anyone she thinks is like

1026
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.159
shady to her, she gets in
there first. So like the fact that

1027
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.960
she see I think was Jojo has
gone through a lot of bullsh would like

1028
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:43.279
record labels, and she started out
very young, and she's weather at a

1029
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:46.000
storm and she released her music herself
like and she's such an amazing singer and

1030
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.039
she's such a loyal audience. I
think Mariah probably was like, Okay,

1031
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:51.800
I'm gonna put you on and we
can sing together, and here you go.

1032
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.800
Absolutely, I think she recognizes the
talent. But of course with you

1033
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.319
know, with Tommy, Mariah's no
stranger to kind of legal shows. Right,

1034
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.840
She's been through the ringer with the
music industry, so I think she

1035
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.119
knows when someone else has so I
just live and she's like, she's very

1036
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:12.000
nice. She's been to my show, she came on my shows. It's

1037
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.439
like, Okay, Maria I see
the pattern here. Well, the Jailo

1038
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:18.600
beef is because of Tommy, Like, that's because Tommy Mottola was working with

1039
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.399
Jaylo and trying to fuck Maria over. So like, as funny as that

1040
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:25.800
meme is, there's a reason why
she kind of shaded Jlo. Wasn't just

1041
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:30.439
like, oh, she's being a
bitch or whatever. For sure, No,

1042
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:33.680
I know, and I agree,
but she's like, it's just nice

1043
01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:38.239
to see. Oh, it's kind
of when they all wrapped by these huge

1044
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:44.560
powerhouses within the industry. Um and
speaking about coming to our show. Thank

1045
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.840
you for coming on our show here
having me this is so fun. I

1046
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:51.279
need to come back for the step
brother update though. Yeah, absolute,

1047
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:56.760
You've been such a joy to have
on. Thank you so so much.

1048
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.319
How can the girls support you?
Come on? This is COVID season,

1049
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:05.600
like swipe up from my only fans. How we didn't both borting me me

1050
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:09.279
like asleep and watching reality TV be
like are you god? I'm like,

1051
01:17:09.319 --> 01:17:12.279
no, this is all I do
and just follow me on social media at

1052
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.399
Platinum Jones on Instagram and Twitter.
To be honest, I think I need

1053
01:17:15.479 --> 01:17:17.359
to change my handle and make it
more like my name so I can actually

1054
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.399
build like a fucking following. But
anyway, at Platinum Jones on Twitter and

1055
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:25.239
Instagram, I'm going to try.
I'm trying to think of podcasting bits and

1056
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.399
get back into that realm, but
like, who knows what with the pandemic

1057
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.159
and all, and I'm on my
own, so I don't have the step

1058
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:36.159
sibling too. I mean, it's
what you do so so fabulously. It's

1059
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:42.279
lovely to like literally just be listening
to your chat. So yeah, get

1060
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.159
into this gig, girl, get
up on the gig, honey. Absolutely,

1061
01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.680
I'm going to do another shout out
for you, John on the Accidental

1062
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:54.960
Chef, Thank you. Would be
lovely to see someone y'all do some recipes,

1063
01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:58.840
because actually I saw someone do the
cats, and I'll be sure.

1064
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:01.079
I was like, go on,
it looked really good. It did look

1065
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.560
nice. It did. What kind
of food is it? Is? It

1066
01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:09.239
like like a bit of everything is
a certain kind of cuisine. It's a

1067
01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:14.720
bit of everything. I just I'm
trying to eat less meat, so I'm

1068
01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:19.920
trying to be creative with recipes and
stuff. And then if I I'm writing

1069
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:24.880
a recipe and I'm sharing it,
then I'll probably be more adventurous. So

1070
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:27.239
yeah, but there is meat on
there too. It's just what I like,

1071
01:18:27.399 --> 01:18:30.520
what I like to cook and eat
is what it is. Um,

1072
01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:38.159
And that's a guy. Anything for
you to flog, I'm not. I'm

1073
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:42.760
not flogging anything. I do think
though, I mean, we've we talked

1074
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.920
about this all the time, but
like the something that's been pointed out this

1075
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:50.199
week is that if if we're all
going to have got home tested at this

1076
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:54.359
point, while we can't go out
and while most of us aren't hooking up,

1077
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.560
like if we all went to like
fifty sixteen Street on Twitter and just

1078
01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.520
ordered a home kit, like we
could literally come out of this knowing our

1079
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:04.319
status and knowing how to move fold
with that. And that would be such

1080
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:10.399
an amazing kind of turning point for
so many people. If if every day

1081
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:14.119
in this country just found out what
they had and what they didn't have,

1082
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:16.840
and maybe that's something worth doing.
People, if you're listening, if you

1083
01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:20.319
fancy it, I just think that's
worth saying. I think that's a great

1084
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:26.880
idea. Thank you all right,
Well, thanks so much for listening everybody.

1085
01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:32.239
This has been an absolute joy.
You can follow us on The Latch

1086
01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:40.560
on Twitter and on the Latch podcast
on Instagram. Which we do need to

1087
01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:44.079
do more on. Yeah, we
haven't updated that in so long, but

1088
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:45.560
if you have any ideas of what
we should actually even put on the in

1089
01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:48.840
so particularly since we're not even together
anymore, we used to at least throw

1090
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:53.359
selfies up on there, but now
we can't do that. If you do

1091
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:57.520
want anything on that, and that's
now, but yeah, tune in next

1092
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:00.720
week where we'll have some more exciting
things for you. Um and yes,

1093
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:06.800
stay safe and the bust yourselves.
Okay, bye bye bye bye