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The Painting and Decorating Show on Fixed
Radio. Welcome to the Painting and Decorating

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Show. I'm Joel Barder with tov
On. Joel. As always, on

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today's show, we'll talk about physical
exercise and staying fit because I'm you know,

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perfect example that and I right,
it's massively important for both our physical

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and mental health to try and stay
fit and do something physical. But it

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is our day job physical enough as
it is. And what's the benefits of

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having a physical hobby away from the
trade. How do we balance this with

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our professional lives. Well, we're
going to talk to some decorators on today's

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show about what physical exercise they do
and why, and what's it going to

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be talking to you as well,
Todd, You're going to be telling us

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a bit as well. Fixed Radio
time to crack on. So, Todd,

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I was just saying, there,
mate, you're you're obviously keeping fit

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into your physical exercise, and I
know you said quite a few times you're

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really into your boxing as well.
So can you tell us a bit about

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your experiences with boxing in a bit
more detail? I certainly can. Joel.

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Good to be back, Mako,
to see you again. This my

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friend. Yeah, I've been back
in the gym recently boxing again. I

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did have a period of time out
due to personal, physical and mental circumstances,

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but I'm back in the mix now, prompted by my high cholesterol diagnosis.

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You're looking good, mate, I've
got to say as well, because

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I know you've been You've been doing
well with this, with the diet and

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stuff. But it's noticeable now that
you was. Not that you didn't look

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any good shape beforehand, but you
know, but you look. You look

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even sweeter now, you look even
more like the housewives choice. You know.

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I'm definitely more of a Tyson Theory
than Andy Joshua physique wise, but

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I have not a bit of timber
because when I saw the eating out a

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bit and then, like I said, got back on the boxing, I

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promptly lost the stone quite quickly,
you know what I mean, because the

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training is intense and yeah, yeah, I'm passionate to talk about. I

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mean, I've got involved in boxing
and it was a positive change in my

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lifestyle. So let's say that I
was living not to my full potential,

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and actually I was even maybe on
the wrong side of the line. And

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my social activities were the same and
when I got into boxing, it gave

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me sitting to do which had the
edge and excitement, but the sort of

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buzz that I was getting before from
activities I shouldn't have been doing, but

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free of her constructive way, and
it didn't involve drink, it didn't involve

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drugs, and any of the sort
of violence and chaos was controlled inside inside

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a ring, rather disciplined, and
you're getting your release in aggression, but

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in the right way. And it
really I just got the buzz because it

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was enough that intensity and the jeopardy
of getting knocked out and the and the

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spar in itself, that buzz was
enough to supplement the bus that I was

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missing from storting myself out, if
that makes sense. And obviously there's the

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physical advantages of like just getting fit, losing a bit of weight, being

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in a bit of better shape and
stuff. But there's also a lot more

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that goes on in establishments like a
boxing gym, and I believe we'll touch

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on that in a bit more detail
with later on in the show. No,

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that's great stuff, mate. I
remember my I told about my like

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my granddad before in the past,
the one to cut his finger off when

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he used to do is a roofer, but he McClay in the mill where

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he was like featherweight. He would
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but he used to be. He
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But he used to fight as well. He used to do like these circus

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things that go around where he could
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That's what he used to do as
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so I'm big in the fifties and
sixties. I think that people might

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know that from some one of the
million cray films that are out there,

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but they would go and do that. You could go and take on the

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sort of champion when it stays on
and if you beat him, you get

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a load get out of money.
But I think boxing was much more prevalent

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then. Yeah, you do be
like kick boxing world. I started off

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kickboxing and then my legs I got
hernies and my growing because I kept tearing

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the tissue from the kicks. And
then I moved over to boxing, and

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I actually preferred the boxing, I
must say, yeah, but I started

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off kitboxing, much to the annoyance
of all my boxing coaches, because you

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pick up habits that aren't conducive with
boxing, and there's a bit of rivalry

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there. Yeah, I am.
I've never really been into anything like that.

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I remember at one point, going
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mate started doing what were they doing, I carn't remember what it is now,

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some sort of mixed martial arts being. They going, oh, come,

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come, you come like that,
and I'm like, I don't know.

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I might do one day, but
then I'd see him and their faces

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were absolutely battered and mashed, like
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open and offul No, you're all
right, you know, I mean they've

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paid to go someone and get my
face caved in, you know what I

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mean? All right, Okay,
We'll have some guests join us to talk

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about keeping fit as a decorator.
After Paul Simon You Can Kill Me All

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Painting and Decorating show on Fixed Radio, I'm Joel Barder with Tob and Joel,

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and we've asked decorators to join us
a day to tell us how they

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keep fit and why they do this
away from the already physical nature of what

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we do. Join us. First
of all is friend of the show and

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do you like select creator Sean Kelly
so, Sean, you go out road

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cycling quite a bit and you're part
of a club. How did you get

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into this and why is it a
good way to keep fit? I got

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involved in road cycling in twenty eighteen. A friend of mine, he I've

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known for many, many years,
he saw me quite overweight and just said

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to me one day to go up
for a bike ride. But I didn't

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even have a bike, but I
knew, but I knew he did,

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and I don't know what. I
vividly remember the first the first bike ride

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I went out with him. It
was just an eight mile bike ride,

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and you know what, it nearly
killed me, but but I felt the

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benefits of it, just being away
from your mobile phone, being out in

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the fresh air, and yeah,
it just something something happened on that day

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that made me think, do you
know what, I'm going to give this.

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I'm going it's going to give it
a crack. And I went out,

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I think a few days later,
and bought myself a decent a decent

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bike, and yeah, I was
hooked. They're quite expensive those bikes as

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well, aren't they. Yeah again, I guess my first bike was about

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nine hundred and fifty quid but but
since then, I guess with the having

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the bug again, I did buy
a bike a couple of years ago.

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That yeah, seven and a half
grand? What wow? I know if

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I spend that money, you want
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on a bloody van, let alone
a bike seven and a half grand.

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It's more expensive than my motor,
my missus motor, have my phone and

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all the electrical items in my house. You need to have a words the

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word wow. Yeah, that's a
serious amount of money. So sure.

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So cycling could be a fairly dangerous
hobby. Have you had any injuries or

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do you worry about having an accident
that could take you off the tols?

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Up until October last year, I've
been very lucky. A few of us

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went out and we did one hundred
miles down to from Hertford year down into

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Surrey and back. Sorry I stopped. You rode one hundred miles on a

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bike that's been rallies with them,
conflate things and when they called it in

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remember do you remember the spinners?
Yea and reflected light. That's as much

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as drew long. Does a hundred
miles on a bike take about six hours?

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They were about there are about eight
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take it in turns and if you're
if you're in the middle, you just

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almost like you just get drafted along. And so yeah, we went out

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and we did. We went down
down to Surrey and came back and I

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was I was buzzing. But unfortunately
this following day you just need to sort

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of just turn the turn the legs
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bit of just to unwind and relax. And so I did a fifteen mile

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loop from home to Saint Alban's and
I'm just coming down this road of his

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car. I could see, I
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motion, and I was thinking,
please don't pull out, Please don't pull

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out. Unfortunately he pulled out.
I went cracking into him. I broke

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four ribs, I punctured my lung
and I got elasorrated. Sydney, where

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was this reason me? This is
in October last year, flipping it?

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Man? Did he stop? So? I was, y did yeah,

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yeah, yeah, he stopped.
The exchanged details. I then got transported

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off to to what the general.
I then tried ringing him about a week

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later just to say that against that
exchange, details. The details were incorrect

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that he gave me. So I
am to the police are investigated at the

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moment where it's still still investigate thing. But but yeah, I was work

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from October till just before Christmas last
year. So yeah, so the best

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part two months work and it was
it was a psychological effects more than the

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more than the physical effects of just
even now I'm cycling along and I'm thinking,

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God, is that car going to
pull out on me? Did the

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bike? Did the seven and a
half grand bike sustaining any damage? During

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the question that luckily I was on
the seven and a half ground bike,

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but it was on the four and
a half ground bikes. Hang about,

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You've got a nine hundred pound bike, a four and a half ground bike,

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and a seven and a half ground
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boys, and I've got a pandem. My gosh if one's been serviced.

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So I'm like, I'll have I'll
have a planic and say you've got these

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somewhere like secure because this sounds like
a face dream. You go in and

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get the jackpot. You've got all
these bikes? Oh yeah, yeah,

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there there they're in my flat And
I honestly I'm just like, they're behind

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lock and key, and I just
yeah, they're very rarely, yeah,

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but yeah they again, that's just
yeah. Luckily, I guess I've had

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got a nice collection of them now
that I guess two of them. Two

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of them are winter bikes, two
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two are just the sort of fun
really just sentimental value because like in twenty

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nineteen, I did the jew Lux
Ultra Revolution, so that was one hundred

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and eighty five miles in one day, wow on man. And so I'll

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never yeah, I'll never get rid
of that bike, just because it's just

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it's got its sentimental back. It's
probably attached to you. It's now after

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an absolutely the saddle still road.
But let's not even go there, right,

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I'm going, I'm glad you're okay
now after that accident, because that

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sounds horrendous. I mean, it
must just just don't worry you've been off

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work for an amount of time because
I'm assuming, I mean, it's it's

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not really I don't know, is
there like an insurance being involved with it

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or do you just literally just there's
nothing you can do if you have an

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accident like that. Well, should
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You need British Cycling membership. Right
to have British Cycling membership comes with or

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a free legal cover, so free
the free legal cover comes with the insurance

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and stuff like that. So so
I guess luckily the British Cycling of taking

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up my claim to a finder driver
and and obviously then see if there's prosecution.

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But but then yeah again again that
those those two months I was off

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work. Yeah, I wasn't getting
paid while I was there, So yeah,

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I guess it is it is in
your mind when when when you're cycling

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to think and I want any injuries
that you that you pick up, will

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will could prevent me from what him? Yeah, but I suppose it's the

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pros and consto, isn't it.
I suppose it's the like I say,

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it's the health benefits for mentally and
physically by the sound of it. But

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also it's all you've got that risk
factor as well, so I can kind

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of understand it. But so sure
so obviously that we know how much of

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a workout that has been on the
on the bike, so how much of

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a workout is decorating for you?
And does one ever cancel the others out.

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Yeah, I guess. I guess
when when I'm working outside, I

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yeah, get running up and down
ladders all day. I guess I'm very

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lucky by by doing that, it
gives me a lot of a physical I

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guess physically, I'm it allows me
to when I get on the bike,

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I know I've had a little bit
of a warm up. So again,

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like today, I've been running up
and down ladders. This afternoon the season,

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I'll go out for a fifteen mile
bike ride and I feel fairly fit

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already because because I've been running up
and down that A lot of the lads

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that I cycled with in the club
that maybe office space and they don't they

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don't get out on the bike that
often. So so I gets luckily,

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I've got a bit of a head
start. And one. Yeah, I'd

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like to think that by having a
job that is physically demanding does help me.

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It does help me to to to
become a stronger cyclist. Well,

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I'd actually bet that you've probably got
the sexiest legs and all the decorating trade

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from doing all that work, mate, and cycle the weekend. I'll show

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you nice one, Shan. Well, thank you so much for your time

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today. We always appreciate it,
mate, absolute pleasure. Listen, go

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to catch up cheer Sean Fixed Radio. This is the Painting and Decorating Show

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and we're talking to decorators about what
they do to keep fit away from the

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tools. And join us now is
Peter Whiter, who's been in the trading

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construction for twenty plus years. Peter, thanks for joining us. So you

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have a small home gym and you
go to the gym fairly often. What

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are you doing in the gym to
keep fit and how does it help with

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with the day job. The hardest
thing is trying to find the time to

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do it. And lucky enough,
I got small gym in the bottom of

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my garden. So what I tend
to do. I've got a TV and

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I put on a YouTube channel and
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what I do is follow the YouTube
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the workout videos kind tensity. Okay, got emos we heard of emos before

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emos And the kids are painting their
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I mean it's almost like high intense

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you're training it could be demanding,
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to do it. Yeah. You
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you do plastering as well. So
imagine you're stamining them. Has to be

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on the top of its game to
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trades. Well. Yeah, when
when you're plastering, once you start mixing

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up your plaster, you're kind of
like you're you're in it. You can't

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really don't have a cup of tea
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it later. It's not like that. Yeah, so you have to be

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it's it's it's demanding. But so
it's decorating, you know. It's like

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when you're rolling seedings, even when
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down skirtains on the stairs do it. It's just a hard work. Whatever

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graft it is, it's hard work. Yeah. So I mean, I'm

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what I'll be fifty nine soon,
So once you get to a certain age,

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you want to be a to like
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them stairs. I can't wear long
trowsers, because when you're bending down,

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I just get so restricted. So
I tend to wear shorts pretty much all

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the way through the year. And
you know what it's like bending down all

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the time. It's trousers are so
tight around the knees and they don't stretch

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something unless you're going to spend under
and twenty odd quid on a pair of

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trousers. Yeah, when you're decorating
and it's smothered in paint and yeah,

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well unless you anyway, you like
you could wear your like crow that you

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work out in invest in your so
you also run about twenty five kilometers a

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week. How do you keep discipline
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the year as the weather changes.
So you have to invest in the proper

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training equipment. So trainers are really
important. I buy for the winter,

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normally wear Gorde text running trainers.
But I do a lot of trail So

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the trails are generally like really muddy
in the winter when it's snowing. You

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need to have protection. You have
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But it's about the layers. I
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or the parks and stuff like that. And for me going now and send

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the season changes is beautiful. So
well when the spring comes, all the

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trees changing. When now the season
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damply, you can smell the compost, so as you're running through the whole

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smell of the forest is completely changes. But you're generally, Yeah, it's

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really important to make sure that you've
got the right clothes. But motivation is

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key, really is. So what
are some basic things we should all do

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as decorated to keep limber while we're
working. Basic things. What I do

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is before you go to bed is
to tem press ups tents it ups and

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in thirty seconds plank. That helps
me sleep. But ultimately what I tend

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to do is again stretching, just
doing the basic stretching. Like you can

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get YouTube videos and you can follow
a stretch program. There's thousands of them

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on YouTube. Like just just stretching
your calves, your your hamstrings, your

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backs really important, even like stretching
your your your calves and your wrists.

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I mean, ultimately, you know
what we'd like with our wrists. We

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have to keep stretching our wrists and
our forearms. To stretch yourself, Yeah,

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your neck. Yeah, your shoulders, everything, that's the key point

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in there. Plenty of stretching.
Yeah, it's great advice. Well,

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Peter, thank you so much for
joining us. Make really appreciate it,

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no problem. Thanks nice on Peter
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You're listening to the Painting and Decorating
Show. I'm Joel Barter with Tob

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and Joel and join us now to
talk about keeping fit and healthy is Jennifer

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Garner. Hello, Jen faks for
joining us now. Jen. We've talked

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to other decorated today about what they
do to stay fit, but you've actually

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had quite a few sort of injuries
that you're dealing with currently. Can you

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tell us about some of those?
Hello, guys. So in April,

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I was working on a big full
house job and I was renovating that staircase

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and spraying it blues. I literally
just sent down and leant forward to turn

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off my extractor, and my back
just completely when I couldn't even move at

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all. About a week after that, so I still tried to go into

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work with it. A week after
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my foot and boat my toe and
then they are quite heavy. It was

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my little toe and it was the
back end of the spay gun, which

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is just like solid metal. Apparently
we break our little toes various times throughout

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our life, and there's nothing they
can do about it. In hospital,

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you've just got a soak up and
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Yeah. No, there's nothing you
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Sadly, yes, the next one, the next one. Yeah, about

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a week a week after that,
I was saving my cat from a fox

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about half a cent night in like
sliders outside my house, and I didn't

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see that there was a big hole
and I failed down it and I heard

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and I heard my other and I
was surprised, like open drain or just

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like a no, just like a
big in the glass, not like a

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think. I didn't just like disappear
into the guy. But I still managed

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to hold onto the cat with one
arm. Oh no, what a nightmare.

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That's a total nightmare. So there's
two feet. Then two feet have

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taken the brunt of all the damage. The first one in your back when

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you in your back. Yeah,
yeah, it's actually an ongoing injury.

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So I hurt my back when I
was seventeen in a car accident and it's

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just I've got a herniated disk and
it seems to be say, if I

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really like push myself and I'm working
too much, after like every three to

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six months, my back tends to
go, Oh, it sounds painful.

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So what do you do to sort
of remedies injuries that you've got. I

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wish I could say I take time
out and I rest and this, that

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and the other, but I don't. I think when you're when you're extremely

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busy, and you know, people
don't want to be living in chaos and

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mess and they want their decorating finished. I don't really have a choice over

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then to sort of rest when I
can, but still go to work,

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but just take it as easy as
I can and just fill myself out with

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pain killers. Have you ever had
to take any time for work though,

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due to any of the injuries or
like just been in too much pain to

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actually go in. Yeah? I
think when not this time around, Although

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my back was bad this time around. I had a few days here and

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there, but before I couldn't walk
about three weeks and that was my That

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was my back again. That just
keeps going in the same spot. And

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I've had about three weeks out and
then this time I really struggled with work.

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My jobs were running over because I
just physically couldn't go at the pace

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that I was going. So then
you sort of lose money because you're not

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completing the job as fast as what
you would. So I did even look

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into am I covered with lots of
earnings with my life insurance and things.

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So I started looking into things to
see where I'm covered, But unfortunately I

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wasn't. Oh what a nightmare.
And have you seen anyone about your back?

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Have you gone to see? Like? Was it? Was it?

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Chief? You said, if it's
nerve damage from a parkas, is that

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saying that can just be managed rather
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And it's so I've damaged my fastic
joint, which is like a bone

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and to the right of my spine
at the bottom at the base of it,

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and then I've got damaged my disk
like lower vertebrae as well. I

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put my pelvis out of place and
everything. So it's just a lot of

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it is managed by pain killers.
I've been to the chiropractors, I've been

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to physios, and they say there's
not really much they can do. The

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answer when I have had injections into
my spine once a few years back now,

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had about five injections into it,
which was like a steroid and an

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epidural sort of took pain away for
about a year or so. But you

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can only have like two of those, two or three of those in your

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lifetime, I think. But and
you're certainly a trooper, definitely, just

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from hearing some of this stuff,
it's an overwhelming amount of sort of dissabilities

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you've got there, and we can
see how hard you do work. So

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so commendable there, commend commend thanks, it's the word congratulations, commendable certificate

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from us. Yea, Andrew said, well, Jenny, we wish you

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well and yeah you stay safe,
look after yourself and thanks again for coming

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on the show. Always appreciate it. Always a joy to come on the

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shown or keep plodding on. Nice. Thank you. Okay, you're listening

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to Fix Radio the Builders station Fix
Radio, right, Okay, that's ire

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for today's painting and Decorating show,
where we talk to decorators about physical exercise

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and how it benefits them. Todd
at the start of the show telling us

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about your experiences with boxing, can
you tell us about the mental benefits when

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it comes to boxing. Yeah,
I'd love to, Joel. I mean,

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what I'd like to wax lyrical about
here is the work that the coaches

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in boxing clubs do. I mean, for me, I can speak from

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personal experience and from experiences I've seen
other people benefit from the coaches of father

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figures. They're counselors, the teachers, mentors, solicitors even and I found

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in boxing gyms they have the ability
to fix broken boys and men that society

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couldn't And these troublesome individuals such as
myself are welcomed in and embraced and they

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aren't judged. And in my time, in some of the most challenging periods

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of my life, I've been showing
nothing but love and support, going through

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from court cases, alcoholism, depression, heartbreak, a mental breakdown. The

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door was always open for me,
without question and without judgment at the boxing

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clubs that I've trained at. And
I would actually like to take this opportunity

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to name check some of the influential
coaches that have been there for me.

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And if I haven't made it clear, I would like them to know how

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grateful I am, and I will
never forget what they're done for me.

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So I'd like to thank Rob Davis
from Kingston Koba's Kickboxing, Alec Waller and

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Harry Morris from Serber and Amateur Boxing
Club, George Turner from Carney's Community Boxing

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Gym, and also two coaches who
I'm currently working with at the moment on

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my return to training, Warren Dunne
and Mick Shillingford, who are operating out

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of South Oxley Boxing Club. All
of these people have been a massive influence

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to me and have really done a
job that in an ideal world I would

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have had parents or family that might
have helped me with. And I can't.

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I can't thank these people and individuals
like this for the work they've done

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for me, people like me,
and people in their respective communities. And

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I think there's so much unsung great
work being done by boxing coaches around the

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country for you young people and twenties, thirties, even adults as well.

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And I would recommend anyone that's even
slightly interest in boxing just go and get

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involved and you'll be surprised with the
warm work and you get it's not scary

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and aggressive and the picture painted in
some films. You know what I mean,

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it's the opposite of that. It's
lovely stuff. Man's that's really nice

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to hear. Actually, it goes
back to sort of like the discipline thing

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again as well, you've got someone
like that kind of figure to sort of

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help you out and just and it
can be almost echoed in the trades world

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where you get tradesmen who get an
apprentice in and never underestimate if you get

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a good apprentice how they look at
you, you know, I mean,

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which you might be fulfilling them.
So there is there is a kind of

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symmetry there influenced like influential and your
sort of work just growing up basically when

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that kind of thing, and there's
a lot of transferable skills that you would

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learn on a building site towards n
a gym and vice versa. Do you

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know what I mean, I'm passionate
and genuine and full of gratitude from from

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my experience from from from the aforementioned
coaches. Yeah. No, it's wicked,

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man. Yeah. And if anyone
gets in your nose, you can

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smack them in the mouth and knocking
cleaners love it. Okay, Well,

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that's it for today's painting and decorating
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