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At at Hey, everyone, thanks
so much for joining us for this live

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stream episode of Dogman Encounters Radio.
I can't thank you enough for joining us

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for the show. In most cases, dogmen eyewitnesses or port things that would

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point towards dogmen just being flesh and
blood creatures that are out there in the

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woods trying to scratch out a living. But every once in a while you

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have an eyewitness come by the way
that talks about certain things that point towards

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the possibility that maybe these guys aren't
just flesh and blood creatures out there,

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animals out there trying to scratch out
a living. Tonight's guest Dave, is

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a perfect example of that. Without
wasting any more time, though, let's

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get him in here so we can
find out more. Dave, thanks so

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much for joining us. Well,
thanks for having me. Oh you know

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you're welcome. Dave. Please give
us a brief bio in yourself. Oh

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well, my name is David.
I am in the forties. I work

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in customer service and in the sugar
industry, sugar supply industry. I live

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in the South suburbs of Chicago.
Nothing real, super remarkable into camping with

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my family and being outdoors, and
really that's just that's just about it.

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You're a very nice guy who's obviously
very well rounded. If you just spoke

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with someone on the street, I
mean, you'd be probably the last person

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that you'd ever expect to have experiences
like the ones you're gonna share with us

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tonight to talk about. But these
experiences, they happen to anyone, any

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place. There's no rhyme nor reason, so it's pretty hard to figure out.

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Dave, all of your encounters except
one have strong supernatural elements to them.

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With that in mind, though,
are you convinced that dog men are

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supernatural beings? You know? And
since I've had these encounters and been doing

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a little bit more research on them, I think that from stuff that I've

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read, I think they could be. It could kind of go either way,

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you know. I've heard many instances
where people see them and like you

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describe flesh and blood, actual physical
animals, but then in the case of

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mine, more and more of the
supernatural aspect of it. So you know,

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it's your guess is as good as
mine. I mean, I've I've

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always been open to believing in you
know, and that there's more out there

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than we really know. So,
I mean, there's definitely definitely things living

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behind the shadows that are not explained
in my opinion anyway, there definitely are

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things out there like that. Unfortunately, speaking of strange things. On my

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other show, one of my other
shows, My Pure Normal Experience, I've

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got a couple of good guests lined
up. One of those guests is going

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to be coming on and talking about
a batman that he saw he was looking

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through his telescope late one night.
I guess he was star gazing, maybe

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checking out the moon or something like
that, when all of a sudden you

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notice this strange creature flying really high
in the sky that it looked like a

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cross between a bat and a man. And if that's not unnerving, and

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if that doesn't make the heir and
your butt stand up, what he talks

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about happening after he noticed it,
definitely will. So Yeah, that episode

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should be Earrings soon, maybe next
week, if not next Friday, then

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the friday after that. It's an
episode you definitely don't want to miss.

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But back on point Dave, when
someone new comes into your life, how

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long does it normally take before you
start trying to decide when and if you're

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going to tell them about your dog
man encounters. Oh, you know,

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honestly, it's not not something I
usually lead with. And you know,

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if I do get convinced to talk
about it, because obviously there are people

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in my life that I that I
have told you know, close friends and

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you know, told around campfire stories, and I think that some of them

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probably think that it's just some spooky
thing that I tell, you know,

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when they're like, hey, David, tell you tell about your you know,

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your your experiences, I get mixed
reactions. You know. Sometimes people

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are like, oh, yeah,
you know that's that's that that really happened.

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But but like I said, it's
it's not usually something that I that

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I that I lead with because I
have gotten quite a bit of skepticism from

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people on it. So it's it's
something I say for those that are that

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are closest to me, that you
know, that that are really interested in

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learning more about it or you know, asking genuine questions about it and knowing

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more about it rather than just you
know, something spooky to tell around the

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campfire. I can definitely understand why
you're careful about you tell about your experiences

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too. Yeah, that's that's a
good move. You started having dogged me

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and encounters at an early age.
How old were you though when you had

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that first encounter. I was right
about nine or ten. It was about

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around in the late eighties, so
like eighty seven or eighty eight was the

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first first one that I remember.
That's an early start to really early start.

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What's been the most profound change in
your life that was directly related to

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having that experience at such young age. Well, I mean, obviously it's

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just talking about it and just kind
of coming to terms with, you know,

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having had the experiences. It's definitely
in which we can probably get into

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a little later. Definitely changed my
dreams because I still do you know,

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when I uncovered more more memories about
them. I do dream about them sometimes.

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So that's something that's I wouldn't say
newer, but but newer newer since

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I really kind of started digging into
it a little bit more. Has it

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been a while since you've had a
dog men related nightmare? I wouldn't necessarily

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call them nightmares. I would say
that they're you know, they're dreams that

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that where they you know, are
present. But no, I mean it

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probably honestly the last one that I
can remember it was within the last couple

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of months. But uh, they're
not They're not always nightmares, I should

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I should put it that way.
They're sometimes just just regular, regular dreams

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where they where the dogmen are are
present, I should say. So it

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sounds like you're not still plagued by
these nightmares. No, no, not

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not. It's not always, not
always unpleasant. Oh, thank goodness for

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that. Yeah, that's a lot
more than some eyewitnesses can say. That's

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a lot more than most eyewitnesses can
say. So, yeah, if that's

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the case, that's definitely a good
thing. Definitely. Well, Dave,

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please tell us about your encounters.
Now, give us everal last detail that

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comes to mind. Sure, absolutely
so. Like I said a few minutes

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ago, like the first one that
I really remember was when I was about

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nine or ten. Was some time, so we were my family was having

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a cookout at my grandma's house,
which I spent a lot of time out

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there. So it was probably around
dusk a little bit a little bit earlier

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than that may because there was still
a decent amount of light in the sky.

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I was just playing ball with my
cousin, and the way that my

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grandma's house was set up, you
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had a old chain link fence around
the whole thing in the sideyard led to

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the backyard where there was an unused
an alley, so it was kind of

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overgrown with weeds and brush and stuff, and thus kids were not allowed to

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go back there because you know,
it was just she thought it was dangerous

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and broken bottles and things like that. She didn't live in the best neighborhood,

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to be honest. So we're playing
ball in the yard and my cousin

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tossed it a little bit too high
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and I kind of rolled to the
back so I ran back to grab

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it, and as I was picking
it up, I noticed that there was

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some rustling in the in the weeds
back there in the alley, and of

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course, being nine to ten years
old, I had to go take a

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peek and see what it was.
And what I originally thought it was was

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an injured animal, because I could
see that it was from where I was

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standing. For my vantage point,
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brown for and so you know,
I got a little closer because then I

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was concerned it could have been one
of the neighbors dogs or something like that.

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And as I kind of crept a
little closer, I noticed that it

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was much bigger than I originally thought
it was, So it was, you

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know, about the size of a
man. And so I sort of stood

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there and looked at it for a
few minutes, just kind of trying to

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wrap my ten year old mind around
it. And I noticed that it seemed

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to be injured because it wasn't standing
up, it was lying kind of in

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a prone position, and it is
using the fence sort of kind of kind

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of hard to describe, but I
think about, you know, grabbing,

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grabbing, you know, your hands
with the chainling fence and sort of dragging

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yourself along with it. You know, that that's really what it was doing.

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And I could see that it was
covered in fur, and then its

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hands were reminiscent of a man's,
but more more animal like. I didn't

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get a great look at the you
know, the head, or the or

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the face or anything, but it
definitely wasn't just a normal person. And

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so I, you know, stood
there and sort of watched it for what

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seemed like forever. It was at
that point that was one of the most

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terrifying things that I'd ever experienced,
and I just sort of watched it and

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I just I just I really couldn't
process it. You know, it's watching

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this, this seemingly injured monster really
is what it what it seemed like,

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you know, kind of dragging itself
along. And so then after a little

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while, I ran up front to
grab my cousin, and when we went

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back there, it couldn't have been
more than a minute or two lateran uh,

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it was it was no longer there. Like we were of course not

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going to go back into the alley
because we weren't allowed to, so but

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yeah, just it just wasn't there
anymore. And we you know, talked

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about it, of course, as
kids do. And he was just a

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little bit older than me, so
you know, he's calling me, of

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course, telling me that I'm lying
and I'm making it up, that I'm

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just trying to scare him. But
you know, I mean I I described

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it to him and told him what
it was, and you know, of

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course we made plans to go back
there and take a look and see what

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it was, but it never that
never materialized, and and then it just

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sort of, you know, it
kind of fell out of memory, like

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I didn't think about it much after
that. Then that was that was that

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was the first time that I that
I saw something And that was one of

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the I guess, man, I
want to say one of the only because

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it's hard to tell, you know, with the other encounters that we get

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into, but it was it was
one of the times that I that I

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knew it was like physical, like
it was an actual something that was that

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was there, like if I had
reached out, I would have been able

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to touch it, that it would
have been a physical like you said,

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flesh and flesh and blood being.
But that was, you know, that

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was that was the first time.
All right, take your time, and

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whenever you're ready, please tell us
about the other ones. Yeah. And

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then so the next time that I'm
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was I was in high school,
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ninety four, somewhere around there.
I'd come home from school and this was

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probably fall, I think that I
had been I was going to go to

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some sort of an event after school. So I came home and uh,

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you know, grabbed myself a snack
and you know, got into into my

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room. I don't think my parents
weren't home yet, but I got in

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my room and just was going to
take a nap before a friend came to

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pick me up or or whatever was
the plan. So I had my bedroom

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door, my legs were off,
my bedroom door was opened, so the

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light from the from the rest of
the house was coming in, so there

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was you know, I could still
see the interior of my room. It

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wasn't pitch black or anything. And
I was kind of dozed off, and

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when I did wake up, I'm
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It didn't seem like very very much. When I did wake up, the

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room seemed occupied, I guess,
I should say, and I was having

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difficult like I could I could still
see light, but it was it was

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kind of obscured, and so it
took me a few minutes to figure out

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what was really I say a few
minutes, probably just a few seconds to

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figure out what was going on.
And then and when my when I guess,

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when my eyes kind of got accustomed
to what it was, I noticed

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that there were probably about four or
five five of these dog men standing around

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my bed. So there were they
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like like human, but they this
time I could see their their heads,

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and they were, you know,
they had the long snout kind of taller

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standing up ears. They were they
were all very dark. For I don't

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remember if they had tails, because
I can't. I don't remember if I

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could. I just don't have that
either, that memories and it doesn't exist

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anymore. I just didn't see that
that part of them. It was a

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little foggy. But that time I
didn't feel fear, but I did have

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like a vague feeling of like being
observed and and sort of left with a

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hard to describe it, but almost
like a feeling of I don't know,

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just being I hesitate to use the
word violated, but but observed in sort

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of almost a threatening way is what
it felt like. So it's just kind

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of hard to pinpoint how, you
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So I sort of laid there and
and watched them a little bit and and

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and you know, they were just
observing. It was really the best way

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I can describe it. And then
I I either dozed back off or you

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know, just kind of closed my
eyes and just to kind of think this

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can't possibly be happening. And then
and then I heard my mother was in

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the house at that point. I
remember hearing her in the kitchen and when

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I when I opened my eyes,
I was alone, so the room was

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empty. You know, my mom
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checked on me to see what my
plans were, uh, And then

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I think I just sort of wrote
it off as as a nightmare. But

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now you know, now that I'm
I'm an adult, and I've kind of

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done a little bit more research.
I mean, I definitely have have I

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know that they were there. I
know that that that was an actual experience

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that happened, and like I said, the strange, like the feeling of

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being observed was rather unnerving at that
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kind of remember what that felt like. And then the the next And I

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guess you're saying more recent is relative
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or more like, I'm sorry,
twenty years ago. I forget how old

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I am. Sometimes flash forward to
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at this point in my love and
in the same neighborhood as is where my

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grandmother lived and where my where my
parents live and all that. But I

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have my own house and after work, I am I'm out with some friends

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and my boyfriend at the time to
my husband. Now, we were heading

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home and just kind of chatting along
the way, and the neighborhood that I

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grew up in was sort of wooded, so this, you know, got

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this kind of long stretch of road
that's you know, got houses on one

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side and a lot of woods on
the other. And so we're driving down,

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heading towards the house and it's a
little like misty, kind of foggy

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out and up ahead. I can't
even tell you that what, you know,

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what the distance was. My head
lights hit on something, and at

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first I thought it was like just
some trash or something like, you know,

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some debris in the road. As
we get a little bit closer,

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I think, oh, no,
that's got to be and that's an animal,

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you know. I thought maybe someone
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had a lot of deer around.
And then I get closer and I even

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even closer. I'm slowed down at
this point, and at this point he's

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he's noticing that I'm slowing down,
and then he notices that there's something in

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the road as well, and and
then I think, oh, gosh,

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a dog, you know. I
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head, and at this point I
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of looks like it's standing there.
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injured some you know, feeling sad
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as we get slowed down to nearly
a stop, it uh sort of looks

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over at us, uh and and
it's it's big. It It stands up

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on, you know, on its
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like over six feet tall, more
like grayish for this time, but the

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the you know, snout in the
ears. It's gotta it's got a tail.

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I can see the legs, or
before it was I wasn't able to

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see that this time. It just
it's kind of the the epitome of what

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you would think of as a dog
man. It just looks looks sort of

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like a werewolf, but I've never
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and it just sort of turns and
looks at us. And at this point

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I'm at a dead stop. We're
not talking, we're just you know,

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kind of and this standoff, and
then it turns to sort of like what

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what I would think would be like
a motion to run, like it's going

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to, you know, dart off, and then it just sort of wasn't

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there anymore. Like it was almost
like the mist kind of blew, you

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know, around a little bit,
and then it just it wasn't there.

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So not really like watching it run
away. It just was there and then

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it wasn't. So it felt while
it was standing there, it felt like

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it was physical. It looked like
it was physical. But then but then

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it wasn't anymore. I wasn't there
anymore. And so I turned to him

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and I said, before I say
anything, I need you to tell me

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exactly what you saw. And he
described, He described exactly what I said

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to you. He saw the thing. He thought it was an injured animal,

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because you know, he didn't notice
it until until we were a little

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closer to it. And then he
told me what he saw. And that

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was the time that sort of triggered
the rest of the memories for me.

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It all sort of flooded back,
like we went we went back to the

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house and talked about it a little
bit more. And I remember the time

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when I was at my grandma's house. I remember the time that I was

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that I was in my bedroom when
I was in high school, I did

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remember a few times when I when
I had dreams of those encounters, those

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specific encounters, and then it triggered
a deeper, sort of weirder memory.

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Well, you know, I some
people consider it weird. So my uncle

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were pretty eccentric. My uncle was
a barber, and he had an old

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barber chair in their den. Uh. He had a lot of you know,

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they had an old piano down there, just really kind of odd nick

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knacks. He collected a lot of
really cool old stuff. He had an

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old phone booth down there as well, the kind you'd find more like in

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a in a bar not so it
was like wooden. It wasn't like an

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outdoor one. He claims that he
got it at an auction and there was

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a bank in a bank of phone
booths that were in the old LaSalle Street

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train station in Chicago. And you
know, he had to take this at

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his word, he said, he
claims that you can see it because it's

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part of the movie North By Northwest
was filmed there. So he claims you

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can see the phone booth in the
movie. And I mean, sure enough,

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if you look at the movie,
those those those types of phone booths

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are in it. I can't I
couldn't be able to prove to you if

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if that was one of them or
not, but they're definitely in the movie.

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So I used to play in it
when we'd go to my aunt and

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uncle's house. It was my mom's
sister and they were really really close.

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So I play in it. And
I don't have any memories of what I

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would do when I was in it, but it just it sprung to my

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mind. So I called my mom
the next day and I said, hey,

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you remember that phone both and she's
like, yeah, it's still there.

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She's still you know, they still
have it. And I said,

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tell me about what I used to
do in there. And she's like,

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oh gosh, you know, what
is that? How long ago was that?

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You know, I don't remember used
to go and you playing it?

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You know, you'd close the door
and that would trigger like the light to

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come on and there was almost like
an exhaust fan. And she's like,

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you'd just go in there and you
just play in it for for forever,

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you know, and you loved it
and we have no harm, no foul,

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So we just left. Let's let
you play around in it. And

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I was like, well, did
I say anything while I was in there?

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Did I make believe? Did I
do anything like that? She said,

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to be honest with you, you
sort of would go into it like

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almost like a trance. You'd sit
in the little bench in there, and

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you'd you know, kick your legs
and kind of chatter to yourself, and

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you know, uh, they say
chatter, you know, just kind of

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talk and you know, play and
we just thought you were, you know,

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playing make believe. She's like,
but you wouldn't really do much of

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anything other than just sitting there,
and we just thought you enjoyed it.

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Now and she's like, I'll ask
your aunt. I'll tell you what I

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what I come up with. And
I'm like, okay, great. So

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a couple of hours later she calls
me back and she says, I remember,

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Aunt Nancy, we talked about it. You used to go in there,

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and when you would come out,
you would always tell these you wouldn't

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wouldn't really tell stories, but you
would. You would say that you went

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to visit the puppy people. And
it sort of made my blood run cold

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a little bit. I was just
like, I wish I had memories of

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what I was doing when I was
in there, Like you know what what

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was I playing. What was I
thinking, you know, did I did

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something that I do open a door
for them or something like that. But

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yeah, she said there was a
I would I would tell her about that

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there was a puppy dog land,
and then I would play I would visit

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the puppy people. And she's like, that's all you really ever said.

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You didn't have any details or any
specifics or we just thought you was just

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a you know, a little kid
with a the vivid imagination. So there's

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there's nothing really remarkable about the phone
booth. I do have it, by

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the way, I bought it from
my aunt and uncle. It's in my

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garage. But yeah, so that
that that kind of ties it together.

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And when I have told other people, they're like, I don't see what

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that has to do with anything,
But to me, it definitely ties it

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together. It's where they came from
in my experiences anyway. It's it's how

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they got to me. And I
don't know how to explain that, and

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I don't know what that means to
to some people, but but that's how

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I view it. I view it
that. But that going in there somehow

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created some sort of a link,
and so so they could either watch me

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or or or I don't know,
maybe they were maybe it was just more

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of a playful thing. But but
that's that's definitely the link that brought it

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all together. And I haven't had
any quote unquote physical experiences since then,

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but I still do dream about them. Sometimes it will be a dream specifically

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about one of the experiences. Sometimes
it will be a dream specifically about them.

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Sometimes it will be a dream that's
completely unrelated to them, but they'll

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just be there. Say just say, for example, I'm I have a

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dream about having breakfast with a relative, and one of them will be just

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sort of off in the background.
I still remember, this is something I

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should have mentioned this earlier. I
still can remember what they smelled like when

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they were in my room because that
was the closest proximity that I was to

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them. And sometimes that kind of
smell will just hit me a little bit

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and it'll just it sort of gives
me, you know, gives me the

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chills, because that's when I did
have that slightly threatened feeling when when they

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were there. But yeah, so
that's that's kind of it. That's kind

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of kind of all of the all
the specific instances is uh, in the

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and the interesting phone booth story.
So those are my those are my encounters.

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That's kind of it. Yeah,
those are quite a few experiences.

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That's kind of a funny way to
put a button on it. Yeah,

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that's what I mean. It's you
know, like I said, I mean,

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I still get a lot of skepticism. I still get people that are

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like, oh, you were you
know that this time was a dream.

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You were you know, it was
just some injured animal in the alley and

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it ran away before you got a
chance to get back there. And the

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thing that you and Gary saw in
the in the you know, the street

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was probably another injured animal or it
was a geer and you guys were you

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know, just having some sort of
you know, delusion. I don't know

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if that's you know, but you
know, I get like I've accepted the

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fact that not everyone is gonna is
going to believe it, and you know,

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or being you know, or or
even accepted. You know, some

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people are like, Nope, you're
just you know they I've had people literally

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just tell me you're you're lying,
You're trying to get to some attention,

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or you're trying to get somebody,
you know, you're trying to spook somebody

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around a campfire or you know.
But I believe it, and Gary saw

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one with me, So I guess
that's all that matters, you know.

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It is though you're gonna have people
who believe you, you're gonna have people

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who don't. But if they don't
believe you, that's them problem, because

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you know the truth. You know, they happen. These experiences happened,

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and that's all that matters. And
I know from talking with you that you've

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already got that mindset. So that's
a good thing. That's that's really good.

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Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
I uh, I believe it,

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you know, and and that is, like you said, that's that's that's

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all that matters, you know.
I mean, I have these I have

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these memories. I mean I can
I remember them, you know, some

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of them like they were yesterday.
But but yeah, I don't, I

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don't. I don't. I don't
have anything to gain from from making things

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up in this particular instance. Anyway, You more than leave these experiences,

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you live them, so you know
they happened. Absolutely, absolutely, that's

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right. I've got some good news
for you, Dave. We've got some

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really good questions ready for you tonight. Really good questions. The first one

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I want to throw it you's from
Andreas Chrisales and Andres wants to know how

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bad was the injury to make this
dog me a limp? See that I'm

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not sure of. I didn't.
I didn't get that close. I mean

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I was close to, you know, on the other side of the fence,

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but I didn't really see what the
what the injury was, and it

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was it was it was less of
a limb and more than more than just

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almost almost sort of incapacitated because it
wasn't standing at all. It was just

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sort of like, you know,
like I said, lying in the alley.

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So I don't know if it was
you know, if there were more

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of them and one of them injured
another, or if like I said,

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unfortunately my grandmother didn't live in the
in the best neighborhood, so I mean,

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who knows really what it could have
hurt it self on in that alley.

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I know, for the longest time
there was an old junk truck back

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there, so I mean, I
guess I could have injured itself on that

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if it was back there, But
but I don't, I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know
what that what actually caused the injury,

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That would that made it incapacitated.
It might have gotten hurt on the truck.

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Some of the homies might have tried
to let the wind out of the

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dog men. You never know what
could have happened. You never know,

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that's right. Anything can happen in
the hood though. Yeah, yeah,

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right, that's right. We've got
cryptid royalty in the live chat tonight.

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Dal Santo Riga asked the next question. As far as cryptied researchers, go

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Al's right at the top of cryptied
researchers. I mean, this guy has

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been out there beating the bushes for
a long time. He knows a lot

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about these guys, from dog men
to sasquatch to ghosts and other paranormal phenomena.

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Yeah, this this in here really
knows this stuff. So it's really

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an honor to ask this question.
This question is, Dave, the ones

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00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,559
around your bed, what color were
their eyes? You know, I that

411
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,319
it was like I said, it
was, it was dim in the room.

412
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,559
There was there was definitely no I
know people I've heard of people describing

413
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:23,039
them as like, you know,
almost glowing, and there was nothing like

414
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:30,079
that. But uh, I mean
I didn't. I didn't really see because

415
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,559
it was it was dim in the
room. So I mean, I'm gonna

416
00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:36,920
have to say that they were,
you know, probably just similar to to

417
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,640
a regular dog, you know,
sort of like uh, I mean,

418
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,279
I have I've got two dogs now. One of them has kind of a

419
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,119
gold gold color eyes and the other
one has you know, just sort of

420
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:49,200
a solid dark dark brown, almost
looks black. So they were they were

421
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:56,519
dark, they weren't. You know, I didn't notice any anything abnormal about

422
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,880
them. I should say nothing,
nothing, nothing that seemed supernatural, like

423
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,279
nothing glowing or back later or anything
like that. So much time has passed

424
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,400
between now and when this actually happened
that you probably don't remember, but I

425
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,039
want to throw this out there for
you. Anyway, years ago, I

426
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,519
had a ghost experience in my bedroom
late one night. I was laying there

427
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,519
and all of a sudden it was
actually New Year's Eve. I was laying

428
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:28,519
there, and it was late,
it was probably between two and three,

429
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:34,440
and for some reason, you know
when you're laying in bed late at night

430
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,079
and maybe you just turned off your
lamp or something like that. Well,

431
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,799
maybe five minutes after you shut it
off, you hear the metal in it

432
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:46,519
expand or maybe contract, and you
hear that the clicking right that. Yeah,

433
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,759
however you describe that sound, I
was going to say clicking, but

434
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,359
it's like a tink or however you
put it. Well, that's what I

435
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,640
heard. I heard it. I
can't do it. But I was laying

436
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440
there and all of a sudden ting
and then all of a sudden, this

437
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:12,599
form, this shadowy like figure over
by my bedroom door just appeared. So

438
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240
I'm laying there and I'm blinking,
and I'm trying to make sure Okay,

439
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,720
I'm not just seeing things. I'm
not dreaming and imagining all this. Well,

440
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:27,400
no, it just everything I did
to just poopoo it, none of

441
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400
it worked. It was right there. So I'm just laying there looking at

442
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,000
this thing. I'm afraid to take
my eyes off of it, because if

443
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,480
I do, then okay, where
did it go? If I don't see

444
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,799
it? Well, I blinked and
it was just gone. Do you remember

445
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,759
again, Like I said, I
know it's spent a long time since that

446
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,279
experience happened, But do you remember
ever hearing any kind of a tink or

447
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:54,160
a sound like that before? They
appeared. No, No, not that

448
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,400
time. No, because like I
said, I had laid down in my

449
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,759
room and I turned off I didn't
have a uh well, I shouldn't say

450
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,880
I didn't have I had like a
floor lamp in there, but I just

451
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,440
was just using the overhead lamp,
you know that the ceiling lamp, the

452
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,480
ceiling light, and I turned it
off before I before I laid down.

453
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,599
But I don't recall, I don't
recall hearing anything anything like that. Something

454
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,079
must have woken me up though,
because you know, I mean at that

455
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,800
point, I did have a dog, but she lived outside, so she

456
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,280
was she was not I don't think
she would have been very happy if that

457
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,599
if she was in the house at
that point. But no, nothing,

458
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,239
nothing along those lines or anything like
that. It was just, you know,

459
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,960
I was just sort of a woken
by something. And then that's when

460
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,079
I it took me a moment to
kind of focus because the light, the

461
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,719
light was still coming in, but
it was obscured. And the reason that

462
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,480
it was obscured was because, of
course, one was kind of standing in

463
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:52,480
between the in between me and the
and the partially opened door where the light

464
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:57,000
from the rest of the house was
coming in But no, no, none

465
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,159
of the tink. The fact that
something woke you up. That's one of

466
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:08,039
the connections I was making between an
experience in mind, because probably no more

467
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:15,559
than no more than five ten seconds
or so before I experienced that, I

468
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:17,760
was sound asleep and then something just
woke me up. It was weird.

469
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:23,760
It just woke me up. No
explanation for why I was awake now,

470
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,880
just something woke me up. And
then as I'm laying there trying to figure

471
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,760
that out, I guess that's when
I heard the tank and then I see

472
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,760
that figure over by the bedroom door. So yeah, I was kind of

473
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,800
wondering looking at the connections between our
two experiences if maybe you might have buy

474
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,159
some long chance heard that. No, no, nothing, nothing that I

475
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:45,280
remember. But but like you said, it was a very long time ago.

476
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,360
I was in high school and that
has been too long ago. Well

477
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,119
you're an old man. You're in
your forties now. Yeah, yeah,

478
00:35:54,280 --> 00:36:01,159
those are the fifty than forty old
timer, right. That's it. The

479
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,960
next question is from Johnny B.
And John wants to know do you think

480
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,880
that they're inter dimensional. I've actually
thought quite a bit about this because of

481
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,480
the connection with the phone the phone
booth aspect of it, uh, and

482
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:20,000
the fact that that the one that
we saw on the street didn't, you

483
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:24,400
know, felt almost I don't want
to say felt, but seemed almost not

484
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:29,320
physical, you know, not flesh
and blood. I think that that's a

485
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,360
definite possibility like that, that the
that the phone booth was something that was

486
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,239
able to allow them to kind of
come through or or or maybe they don't

487
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,119
even need that, but but that's
what they used. So yeah, absolutely,

488
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,880
that's that's something that I have that
I've considered and talked to you know,

489
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,559
friends and family about that. I
think that they're they're able to kind

490
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:53,920
of move freely between different you know, sort of planes of existence. That

491
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,119
sure would explain their ability to do
a lot of the things they do.

492
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,400
So yeah, you're probably right right. This next question is from Vanessa,

493
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,159
whose question or questions I missed last
week somehow. Her question is any idea

494
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,440
how the dogman got inside your house? And that's a that's a good question

495
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000
too, and I think it kind
of goes along with with the last question,

496
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,079
is that I think that they that
that they're there probably don't at least

497
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,360
the ones that I've experienced don't really
have those physical constraints, like they can

498
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,199
just kind of kind of be where
they where they want to be, which

499
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
makes it a little bit of,
you know, a little nerve wracking because

500
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,719
the other two were were definitely specifically
outside and then and these we were in

501
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,039
the house. But yeah, I
think I think it was more like a

502
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,199
uh, you know, they they
wanted to take a peek at me,

503
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,719
and and you know, whatever they
were observing or looking for, they that

504
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,800
you know, that's where I was, and that's where they wanted to be.

505
00:37:52,880 --> 00:38:00,280
So they just they created their own
way. And I guess kind of

506
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,320
a disconcerting thought their ability to seemingly
wink in and wink out of pretty much

507
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,440
any place they want to go.
Yeah, not good. Looks like the

508
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:14,199
truth is the next question for you. Truth wants to know. Did Dave

509
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,880
smell anything during the whole experience the
ones in my room? Yes, I

510
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,360
can't think I mentioned that a little
bit. Sometimes I'll get almost like a

511
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:29,440
memory, you know, a memory
of of that. It's hard to explain

512
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:32,519
though. I mean I've always had
dogs, and sometimes you know, dogs

513
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:36,960
get a little funky. Sometimes shoot, they're dirty or they've been you know,

514
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,840
if we've been camping for a week
and they're you know, we're not

515
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,599
really bathing them regularly. But this
was like a very musky smell. Ah,

516
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,280
much much heavier than you know,
than than you know, what you

517
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:54,719
probably have on just like a house
pet or something like that. But okay,

518
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,440
I don't know, just like like
I said, just sort of a

519
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:06,800
musky an animal smell. Not like
it's not nauseating or anything like that.

520
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,840
It's it's just you know, it's
definitely like if you smell you'd probably be

521
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,079
like, oh, that's what is
that? You know, kind of a

522
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:21,840
heavy too, so what this is
going to be a gross thing. So

523
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,159
we had a we had a it's
the only way that I can kind of

524
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,199
explain it. We had a dog
that always had to have it. You

525
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,079
know, they have oil glands,
so they had to have its its glands

526
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:37,280
expressed because they get like blocked up
and they kind of smell almost like a

527
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,440
there's almost like a fishy smell.
It's kind of gross, but it was

528
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,159
like that, but but like heavier. It's almost like a like a like

529
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:49,119
a like a scent gland, I
guess, but not not like not like

530
00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,239
in a skunk way, but just
a heavy kind of musky animal smell.

531
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Did that musty smell linger after they
disappeared or did it disappear when they did?

532
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:01,119
It was? It was? Yeah, I was definitely there a little

533
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,000
bit, and like I said,
I can, I can remember it,

534
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,760
and sometimes sometimes I can, you
know, I don't want to say.

535
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
I mean, I guess it could
be I get to catch a catch a

536
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,039
whiff of it, but then I'll
ask, you know, if somebody's around,

537
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:15,599
I'm like, oh my gosh,
what does that smell? You smell

538
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,800
that? And then people are like, no, I don't smell anything.

539
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,519
And it's like, so, I'm
not sure if it's just like me remembering

540
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,000
it and then, you know,
kind of tricking my brain into smelling it.

541
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,239
But but it did. It did
linger a little bit in my room

542
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,239
after afterwards, and I think that's
why I was able to sort of remember

543
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,679
what it smelled like, because it
was there for a bit. I think

544
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,760
that if you have a smell like
that in your bedroom, I don't think

545
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,039
for Breeze is going to do much
good, right exactly. I mean I

546
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:43,199
was a teenager, and you know
teenagers are kind of gross, so but

547
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,719
I don't think. I don't think
I was that bad? Wait a minute,

548
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,000
I wasn't gross when I was a
teenager. Oh you were. You're

549
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,360
a better man than I. Maybe
a little bad. Anyway, I've got

550
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,119
another question for you from deeed Truth, and he wants to know could Dave

551
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:06,719
hear breathing either time again? The
time in my bedroom was was a long

552
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400
time ago, and I was kind
of sort of shocked when I when I

553
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:15,199
noticed them there. So I don't
specifically recall. I almost think that I

554
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,039
did it with the one in my
grandma in the alley at my grandma's house.

555
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:22,960
I feel like that was part of
the reason that I that I thought

556
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,800
it was injured, just because it
sounded it sounded kind of injured. But

557
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,599
I could definitely hear the motion of
it pulling itself and you know, kind

558
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:36,840
of being in the grass and everything. But but you know, there's there's

559
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,480
nothing that I can like really pinpoint
like that was breathing. I mean,

560
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:42,360
it could have just been the you
know, kind of ambient noise of being

561
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,440
being outside. Like I said,
it was definitely summertime, so it was

562
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:49,559
you know, crickets and cicadas,
and you know, it was that that

563
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,320
time of that time of year.
But in my bedroom now I don't.

564
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,519
I don't remember anything. And then
then the third time we were inside the

565
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:02,239
vehicle while it was outside, so
definitely nothing there. I can't remember a

566
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,360
show. We've done a live stream
WHEK. We've had so many great questions.

567
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,840
The questions tonight are just amazing,
such as this next one from Lily

568
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,519
Lewis, Lily wants to know,
Dave. Do you think that you were

569
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:22,320
marked energetically somehow? I have.
I have thought that for sure that there

570
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,199
is a reason, some reason that
I've yet to uncover or if I ever

571
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,079
do that, that they are interested
in me. I don't know what it

572
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:35,559
is. I've I was I'm honestly
happy to be on the show because I

573
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,840
thought maybe someone would have a similar
experience and then could maybe share something like

574
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,360
that. But but I've definitely,
I've definitely had that in my mind before

575
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,000
that there's there's some some reason that
they that they were interested in something that

576
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:52,800
attracted them to me when I was
playing in the phone booth and that and

577
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,000
that made them want to be near
me or observe me in some some way

578
00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:00,360
or another. Unfortunately, I don't
have I don't have a a satisfactory answer

579
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,280
for that. I don't have a
you know, a specific reason why that

580
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,480
would be, but it's definitely something
that i've that I've thought after having those

581
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:12,639
experiences in the phone booth, I'm
surprised you kept it in your house,

582
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,760
that you you took possession of it. I would think you'd want to get

583
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,119
rid of the thing. But yeah, it's always you know, I mean,

584
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:22,840
it's always been. Honestly, it
has been, even even you know,

585
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,360
with the with these experiences, it's
it's been part of a memory in

586
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,079
my life that that was a really
good, a really good memory. I

587
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,960
always enjoyed going to my my uncle's
house. I always loved being there with

588
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:40,239
them. They were amazing, fun
people. Uh, And so I always

589
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,440
you know, I mean, I
just just having it. Not not only

590
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,679
is it a kind of a cool
nostalgia piece for me, you know,

591
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:51,920
part of my childhood, but then
it also does have this sort of,

592
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,800
uh, you know, sort of
creepy aspect. When I brought it here,

593
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,760
I didn't tell any of my my
camping friends, and then they met

594
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,360
us here one one weekend. They're
getting ready to go, uh, and

595
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,159
my friend walked into the garage and
he was like, is that is that

596
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:13,440
it? I was like, yeah, yeah, Bett, all right,

597
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,679
Well, I'm staying away from it, and I've got a little note on

598
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,360
it. I need to restore it. It's it's in pretty rough shape.

599
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,000
It's it's they moved it to the
garage when they when they redid their their

600
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:27,480
den, and so it's got a
little bit of water damage on the bottom

601
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:31,639
and I need some TLC. But
it's it's it's gonna come into my basement

602
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,400
eventually. But uh, yeah,
it's it's. It's it's part of part

603
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,039
of my growing up. It's it's
it's a good memory overall. No,

604
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,760
I understand why he kept it.
Yeah, that makes sense. I just

605
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,679
might have done the same thing myself, being sentimental the way we both are.

606
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:53,800
Apparently, that's right. Candy Pierce
wants to know did the dog man's

607
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:59,679
eyes glow at all? Candy,
he already answered that for the encounter and

608
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,280
his bedroom. Is that the encounter
you're asking about or a different one?

609
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:09,519
Please let me know. The next
question for you is from Shamon Shannon Umenezer.

610
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,039
I'm sorry, Umanzor, and Shannon's
question is as an adult, has

611
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:20,679
he been back in the phone booth
in sat to see if anything happens,

612
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,920
believe it or not. Even though
I do have possession of it, I

613
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:32,039
have not gone inside of it.
I'm I'm I was curious about it.

614
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:36,920
But I think that, uh,
I think that I am also a little

615
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:43,800
nervous. I don't know why.
I mean, I just like I said,

616
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,599
it's probably fine. But but I
haven't, you know, I mean,

617
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:52,920
I've I've got some there's some stuff. There's some stuff stored in it,

618
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:54,800
Like the packing material that I brought
it from my aunt and uncle's house

619
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,239
is in there because it was stuffed
it so that the door wouldn't flop around.

620
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,719
And it's got He bought some replacement
stuff for the fan, like a

621
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,119
new motor and everything like that that
he bought years ago and never installed,

622
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:07,679
So that stuff is in there.
But but no, I have not.

623
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,679
I have not gone back into it. I mean other than you know,

624
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:15,119
other than the fact that kind of
like reaching into to stack the stuff in

625
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,840
there and kind of keep it when
I put it in our truck to bring

626
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,280
it over. But no, I
have not. If I do, and

627
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,559
something happens, I'll certainly let Vic
know so he can update you guys.

628
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,800
Yeah, please do hopefully nothing will
happen, but if it does, yeah,

629
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,079
I want to know about it,
that's for sure. This next one

630
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,400
is from truth Iris and truth Iris
wants to know. I'm wondering if Dave's

631
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:49,840
experiences I'm wondering if Dave experiences psychic
flashes of events, if you mean like

632
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:54,320
events that you know, the experiences
of these specific events, it will have

633
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,880
deja vu occasionally generally, like if
I do like that, when when I'll

634
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,280
have a memory of that smell that
kind of hits me, it will kind

635
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,920
of kind of take me back a
little bit to that, to that specific

636
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,000
experience in my room. If so, if that's what you mean, then

637
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,280
then yeah, I guess that would
I guess I would say that that I

638
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,679
will have that. But to me, it's always it's always just felt more

639
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,800
like more like deje vu, kind
of a Dajevu situation. But I experienced

640
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:29,400
that a few times. Yeah,
I figured you might have it. Looks

641
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,400
like we have more Cryptid Royalty.
In the live chat, Brian from Red

642
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:38,920
Dirt Cryptid Investigations is joining us.
He's another investigator who really knows his stuff

643
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:43,679
and if you haven't checked out his
channel, his YouTube channel is red Dirt

644
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:47,119
Cryptid Investigations. Like I said,
please do be sure to check it out.

645
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,119
This next question is from Al Santa
Riga. Al wants to know did

646
00:47:53,119 --> 00:48:01,639
all the dog men have Huh,
that's all you typed. That's strange.

647
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Yeah, if you can finished that
up, Al, then I'll ask the

648
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:12,800
rest of the question there. That's
strange. Let's see. Okay, you

649
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,639
finished it up later on by saying, question what type of legs did the

650
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:22,559
dogman have? Oh? I love
this question because I specifically remember like the

651
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:29,360
ones in my room I couldn't see, but the one in the street that

652
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,679
that kind of made me a little
uh. It was a little eerie because

653
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,920
when it stood up, it had
it had like dog dog legs like what

654
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,159
you would think of, uh,
you know, not like man legs like

655
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,599
you know or our hips straight down
to our knee and straight down to the

656
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,599
floor. They bent like a dog. They you know, kind of went

657
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:52,679
down with a kind of heavier thigh
and then sort of bent, you know,

658
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,239
sort of like backwards. I guess
what we what we would think of

659
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,679
backwards. So definitely like like how
how a dog's legs bend, not like

660
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,960
a man. That is a good
question. He's got another good one for

661
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:08,679
you. He wants to know al
Santo Rico, of course, is who

662
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:13,280
I'm talking about. He wants to
know where were the years located? And

663
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:20,360
all the dog men they were.
Uh so I kind of liking it too,

664
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,199
like a kind of a bigger dog. I had a like actually a

665
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,679
husky when I was growing up,
and how hers were like sort of like,

666
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,480
uh tall they were they stood up, they were They're tall, but

667
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:35,960
like not on the very top of
the head, but sort of like coming

668
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,559
out from the side and then and
then you know, standing up at that

669
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:45,519
point, and then you know they
can't like one I remember the ones in

670
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:50,119
my room. Uh somebody drew it
actually a really cool kind of a comic

671
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,079
book for me, and they made
him. They gave him each different kinds

672
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,199
of years. Like one of them
had sort of floppy years, and one

673
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,679
of them was standing up and the
other one was laying down. But the

674
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,440
actual ones that I experienced had they
were all kind of standing standing straight up,

675
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:07,000
but you know, sort of like
kind of hard to explain, like

676
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:08,559
if you think of a husky or
a German shepherd, how their ears are

677
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:15,159
always kind of at alert. It
was like that I see. Well,

678
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:20,800
the next question for you is Ruth
g and Ruth wants to know how scared

679
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,159
were you? And did it smell
very bad? I'm sure she's asked.

680
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,199
She must be asking about that encounter
when you were in bed. You answered

681
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:32,480
the part about smell, But how
frightened were you? It was pretty scary.

682
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:35,880
It was pretty scary, like I
said it was. It was more

683
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,599
shocking at first, just because I
was when I realized what was going on,

684
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:43,119
When I realized that the reason that
the light from the rest of the

685
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:51,719
house was obscured because there was something
physically standing there. I I think I

686
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,519
was nervous because just because it was
just like, what's what is going on

687
00:50:54,599 --> 00:51:01,000
here? But uh, I think
I explained a little bit for the prevailing

688
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:07,840
feeling was just sort of like a
vague and again I hesitate to use the

689
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:14,639
word violated, but just a vague
like sort of like uneasy like feeling of

690
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:20,559
being observed and just sort of being
I guess, like I don't know,

691
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:22,199
if you ever if somebody ever said
something kind of off and weird to you

692
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,039
and you just kind of get that
weird feeling, You're like, what the

693
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:27,119
heck is that you know, like
that's kind of gross, Like it just

694
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:30,239
made me feel a little weird,
like a little less less scared at that

695
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,519
point than more. Just like,
I guess uneasy is the best term I

696
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:40,199
can really come up with. I
can understand why you would feel uneasy.

697
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,800
Wake up and see something like that
in your bed, right, Yeah,

698
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,239
that's going to get your motor running. We've got more Cryptid royalty in the

699
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:54,760
live chat. Looks like Jessica the
Cryptid Huntress has joined us. If you

700
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:00,400
haven't checked out her YouTube channel,
please do so. Another one with great

701
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,320
content looks like y'all see Anto Riga
has next question. He wants to know,

702
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:13,400
Dave, do you have psychic abilities? Not that I could ever really

703
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:17,360
that I would ever, like pinpoint, I mean, I wouldn't say that

704
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:23,159
I can you know, read anyone's
mind or or or anything like that.

705
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:29,320
I mean, I'm pretty in tune
with people's emotions. I can generally,

706
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:32,239
you know, feel like when somebody's
if someone's you know, angry or upset

707
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,360
and they're they're trying to hide it, you know. I mean, some

708
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,039
people are better at that than others. But uh so, I mean,

709
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:44,480
if that's if that's kind of you
know what you're talking about. I mean,

710
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,519
I guess I would say yes on
that a little bit. Like you

711
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:52,360
know, well, emotionally open to
other people's feelings, I'm definitely I have

712
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,039
a lot of empathy. So like
when someone's sad, I feel sad too.

713
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:59,920
If someone gets elated on something,
I share in that, not just

714
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,920
you know, to the extent of
where I almost can't help myself. So

715
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:09,599
so I guess maybe I do a
little bit. Thanks for answering that question

716
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,400
for us. I've got another one
for you from Ruth G. And Ruth

717
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,079
wants to know did you tell anyone
about your encounter or did no one believe

718
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:24,039
you? I've told quite a few
people, you know, close friends and

719
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:29,599
family, you know. I remember
one of the first times I told the

720
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:35,800
whole story front to back was at
a camping trip and it was my husband,

721
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,559
well my boyfriend at the time.
He said, hey, you wan,

722
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:42,360
don't you remember that thing that we
saw? You tell everybody the rest

723
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,519
of that stuff. He's like,
that was kind of kind of interesting.

724
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:45,920
So I told a group of people, and you know, of course everyone's

725
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,599
like, oh my gosh, it's
so scary, and so I feel like

726
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:52,239
some people believed it, and you
know, there are people that made a

727
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,400
point to say like, hey,
I really believe in this kind of stuff,

728
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,880
and there were other people that just
you know, really didn't comment on

729
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,639
it. But yeah, I've told
quite a few people I was. I

730
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:05,519
enjoy telling it around campfires, like
you know, when there's new people around,

731
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:09,239
not only for the to get people's
opinions on it, but also you

732
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,480
know, just you know, I
mean, I enjoy storytelling and I you

733
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,400
know, get the creepy aspect of
it, and you know, you're kind

734
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,800
of in the middle of the woods
around a campfire. It can it can

735
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,960
add that that extra little yeah,
spooky to this to the already spooky night.

736
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,079
But yeah, there definitely have been
people that have, you know,

737
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:30,920
blatantly told me I don't believe that. I think you know, either you're

738
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:37,920
you're mistaken or or you're you know, be asking me. Hopefully not people

739
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,119
who've known you for any period of
time, because if they are people who

740
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:45,199
have known you for quite a bit
of time, they should know better.

741
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there
are people you know, my my,

742
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:58,119
I think the the what I what
I've gotten a few times are which you

743
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:00,039
know, it's still kind of not
necessarily a I believe you. It's more

744
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:06,280
of I believe that you believe it. Like I'm not saying that you're making

745
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,559
it up. I don't necessarily believe
it, but I believe that you you

746
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,079
believe that you experienced this, so
like you know, an affirmation, but

747
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,639
also with a you know, a
sidebar. Well. I can appreciate them

748
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:25,239
thinking that for just the ordinary Joe
Blow, but you're coming across as being

749
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,880
very pragmatic and you think through probably
almost everything. I don't think you just

750
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,360
jump to conclusions about things. If
these people, if they have known you

751
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,840
for any period of time, they
just must have a really bad they must

752
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:45,000
be really bad judges of character,
if that's a conclusion they came to about

753
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,960
you. Well, these these are
more like you know, more extended friends,

754
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,440
you know, maybe more acquaintances than
my actual you know, close friends.

755
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,440
My actual close friends are really subbortive
on you know, of each other

756
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,920
and of me and everything like that. So these are just you know,

757
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,360
people that I've maybe told that I
don't that aren't really in my in my

758
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,719
close inner circle. Oh I see, okay, that makes sense. I've

759
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:16,119
got another one for you from jameson
blooney sandwich. Oh man, a baloney

760
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:22,480
sandwich. That sounds awfully good right
now. Anyway, his question is,

761
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:29,719
do you think they're a sort of
necessary evil? Well, I guess that's

762
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:35,760
kind of a difficult thing to answer. I mean, they must have some

763
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,480
sort of purpose. I mean,
I don't really know what it is.

764
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:44,880
I mean, they even though they
were there, and they were, from

765
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:51,360
what I gather, sort of observing
me and you know, potentially almost certainly

766
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,039
observing other people as well, I
don't know what they're what they're purpose for

767
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:58,559
being here is. So so you
know, as far as being necessary,

768
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,440
I'm not sure. And I mean, you know, I really don't know.

769
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,719
I mean, I'd like to know
what their purpose is. I'd like

770
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,119
to know if you know, what
the if they are, if they are

771
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:15,400
a necessity to us, kind of
the behind the scenes. Like I said,

772
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,920
there's always something I always, I
firmly believe there's always always something behind

773
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,639
the shadows that we can't that we
can't see and maybe won't ever really know

774
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:27,960
what their what their purpose is.
Yeah, that's a question I don't think

775
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,119
we're ever going to know the answer
to. So I agree. Martie Clifford

776
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:37,000
wants to know, do you think
dog men choose a specific person to see

777
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:43,400
them or is it random? And
in my case, I think definitely I

778
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,679
was I was more chosen than than
random. I mean, I can't really

779
00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:52,360
speak to people that have had a
more physical sighting, you know, out

780
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,880
in the wild, I guess you'd
say, But yeah, for for me,

781
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:04,719
as far as I am concerned,
I do believe that they were specifically

782
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:09,400
interested in either being near me or
observing me in some way. So I

783
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:17,880
think that that was That was definitely
I guess, I guess more of a

784
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,639
choice rather than just a random selection. That makes two of us. I'm

785
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:29,920
pretty sure it wasn't random either,
so I agree. Now, this question

786
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:35,119
is one you definitely don't have to
answer. It's totally up to you whether

787
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:38,239
you answer this one or not,
but if you decide you want to answer

788
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:43,480
it, the truth wants to know
is Dave a believer in God? If

789
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:50,440
so, did he call out or
think about help from higher up? That

790
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,400
is a that's a loaded question,
but I will answer truthfully. I am

791
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:02,440
an atheist and at the time I
don't really I didn't really think of anything

792
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,639
other than you know, what was
you know, right, in my general

793
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,639
vicinity. I wasn't thinking of anything
like that now, you know, saying

794
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:15,360
that, I do realize that,
you know, it's difficult to say,

795
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,800
you know, I don't necessarily believe
in uh, you know, in quote

796
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,320
unquote God, but then they're all, you know, but then also believing

797
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:29,320
in some other, you know,
supernatural things. But I I do firmly

798
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,360
believe that there are other things,
you know, other powers and other things

799
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:37,719
out there that are you know,
unexplainable. But I was I just to

800
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,880
be perfectly honest, I was never
really raised with religion in my life,

801
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:47,679
and you know, as an adult, as a I kind of did some

802
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:54,039
research on it and and and just
came to the conclusion that that atheism is

803
00:59:54,039 --> 01:00:00,519
is my belief system. If you're
an atheist at any time in your life,

804
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:07,519
have you ever played with a Wigi
board? I have. Yeah.

805
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:10,760
Did you know that there seems to
be a connection between people who have played

806
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,039
with one and dog Man encounters?
Oh? Really? I did not know

807
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:22,280
that. Yeah. Yeah, when
I asked that, I'm sorry, Well,

808
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,039
I I apologize it for me to
cut you off, But I have

809
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:30,480
I have one from when I was
a teenager that we that we used to

810
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,159
play around with at parties, and
I actually still have it. It's in

811
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:37,199
my closet upstairs with the rest of
my memorabilia from my youth. Wow,

812
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:43,239
still nails. You'd be surprised when
I ask Dogman eye witnesses that question.

813
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,199
There's been a long time since I've
asked that question, but for a while

814
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:50,159
I would make a habit to ask
that question when I would talk with the

815
01:00:50,239 --> 01:00:54,119
new eye witness. But you wouldn't
believe the percentage of people who answer yes,

816
01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:58,840
Yes, I have played with a
Wigi board at one time. It's

817
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,519
kind of sticks in my though.
I mean more times than I could shake

818
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:06,199
a stick at. I've asked that
question and they say, no, no,

819
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,800
I've never played with one. Well
there was a one time. Then

820
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:14,480
they'll qualify that by saying, well, besides one time in high school,

821
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:17,599
but that was only for like ten
minutes or whatever. And I'm thinking,

822
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:22,719
oh my gosh, that is playing
with one then right, absolutely, yeah,

823
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:27,519
but there does seem to be a
pattern. Like I said, This

824
01:01:27,679 --> 01:01:31,639
next question is from Carol Hansen,
and Carol wants to know what made you

825
01:01:31,679 --> 01:01:37,679
feel the dog men surrounding your bed
were angry. I don't necessarily think they

826
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:40,280
were angry. It just I felt
I just felt uneasy just because of the

827
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,239
situation, you know, just having
them, you know, like I said,

828
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,280
four or five of them just sort
of observing. I don't think they

829
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,440
I don't think they intended any harm. I think it was just the like

830
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,440
I said, just the situation that
made it made it kind of, I

831
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:02,519
guess, scary, and gave me
that uneasy feeling, that sort of the

832
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:07,079
feeling of being you know, observed, like you see, you know,

833
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:09,679
I mean this is you see like
movies about people being abducted by aliens and

834
01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:13,119
they're being you know, they're just
all sort of standing around and watching.

835
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:16,360
It's just sort of an odd,
creepy situation. But yeah, I mean

836
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:21,880
I don't I don't necessarily think that
they were angry. I mean, I'm

837
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,760
not sure what they would have done. If they had been, I might

838
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,079
not be here to tell you the
story. Yeah, if they're angry,

839
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,000
I'm sure you'd know it. I
don't think that would be a mystery,

840
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:36,960
Like you said, Denise c asked
a question that you've already answered. She

841
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:39,400
wants to know, do you ever
go into the phone booth anymore? If

842
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,039
so, does anything happen? Well? Dave told us a bit ago,

843
01:02:44,199 --> 01:02:46,519
Denise that he hasn't gone into it. He has stuck a leg in there,

844
01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:52,280
but he hasn't gone into it.
The next question is from Ruth ge

845
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:59,000
and Ruth wants to know did the
dog men ever growl at you? Not

846
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:00,960
that I can recall. Uh.
I, like I said, a little

847
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:07,199
while ago I in in the in
my room. They were pretty silent.

848
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:12,800
I mean, just more of an
observational situation than the one in the street.

849
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,119
We were inside the vehicle and he
was it was out. Uh.

850
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:20,599
And then the one in the alley, you know, other than potentially you

851
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,960
know this just the sound of it, of breathing, which I can't even

852
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:27,440
really pinpoint. It was more of
the you know, the ambient sound of

853
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,480
being outside, like the grass is
moving from it, from it pulling itself,

854
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:34,440
and being in the in the alley, and then just you know,

855
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:38,079
the outside sounds of the summertime evening. But no, I don't I don't

856
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:43,840
ever recall a growl. Well,
thank goodness they didn't growl. If they

857
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,599
would have, that would have just
stepped things up even more. It was

858
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:52,000
already intense. Yeah. Andras Carrizales
has the next question, Andres wants to

859
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:57,519
know, did you get any impression
of age, like one seemed young or

860
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:02,320
old? Actually, that's a really
good question because the one, the last

861
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:08,079
one that I saw, the one
that was in the street, that that

862
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:14,920
Gary saw with me, did seem
like it was older, like it seemed

863
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,599
because it was like the other ones
had the like brownish or black darker For

864
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:20,719
the ones in my room, it
was difficult to tell because it was dim

865
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:25,880
in there, but definitely darker color
coloring, and the other one was more

866
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:31,760
of a kind of a gray,
and it gave me the impression of more

867
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,519
maturity. I guess I would say
that is something that's something I haven't really

868
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:40,480
thought about. And so you asked
that question. That's interesting. That was

869
01:04:40,519 --> 01:04:43,840
a really good question. Like I
said, a lot of good questions tonight,

870
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:46,920
looks like the truth is up next. And wants to know. Have

871
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:53,760
these experiences influenced Dave to not go
into the woods not a bit. I

872
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,880
camp constantly. We are, We
are avid campers. We are always hiking.

873
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:05,639
I just love being outside, you
know love you know where we live

874
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:10,519
now, where we chose to build
our house in kind of our neighborhood is

875
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:12,960
obviously it's still a neighborhood, but
it's still, you know, surrounded by

876
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,519
woods. There's a wooded trail that
cuts through our neighborhood. I actually,

877
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:20,039
I love being outdoors and the woods
don't don't make me nervous or have not

878
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:26,719
deterred from going there in any in
any way. So no, it's it

879
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:31,400
hasn't hasn't changed my view on that
at all. That's great. As young

880
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,239
as you are, it'd be a
shame if you didn't go out and enjoy

881
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,920
the woods and just live your life
and do what you wanted to do.

882
01:05:38,159 --> 01:05:43,079
So yeah, that's music to my
ears. This next one is from encryptid

883
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:45,519
Common Sense, and they want to
know, Hello, David, were there

884
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:53,760
caves and or water sources nearby where
I grew up? No caves. I

885
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,639
grew up in Northern Indiana, so
in Chicago Land area, not too terribly

886
01:05:57,679 --> 01:06:01,360
far from where I'm at now.
But but I've always lived near rivers.

887
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:06,599
We live near multiple rivers now,
and where my grandmother's house was just a

888
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:14,880
few blocks away was a river.
I'm trying to think near my parents' house

889
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:20,320
there are a couple of ponds not
too far away, but nothing like incredibly

890
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,119
close. Like I said, it
was a few blocks away from my grandma's

891
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:29,360
house where the river. Where the
river is, But you know, no

892
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,199
caves definitely. Well, they're found
in a lot of places where there aren't

893
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:38,079
caves nearby. They don't necessarily need
them, but if they're in the area,

894
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:42,320
they will seem to utilize them.
So something to keep in mind.

895
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,440
Johnny b. A is kind of
more of a general question. He wants

896
01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:49,480
to know do you think that there
is a war between dogmen and rakes.

897
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:56,519
My witnesses have reported seeing dog men
going after rakes and rakes fighting with dog

898
01:06:56,599 --> 01:06:59,719
men. Maybe there is something to
that. Maybe there is a war going

899
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,519
on, but yeah, there's no
way for us to know about that.

900
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,840
All we can do is pretty much
guess. Unfortunately, let's see, I

901
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:14,760
had another question queued up. This
one is also more of a generalized one.

902
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:19,679
Eleon the Pharaoh wants to know is
dog man a spiritual entity or a

903
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:24,400
biological being? Well, yeah,
that's a million dollar question. All we

904
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,159
can do is guess as far as
what the answer is to that, no

905
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,719
way to know for sure what the
answer is, so hope that answers your

906
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:38,800
question. The next question for you, Dave is from Night Scale. The

907
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,400
gaming dragon, and they want to
know, Dave, how smart do you

908
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,000
think they are? Do you think
that it truly wanted to kill and eat

909
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:50,840
you? I felt like they were
pretty smart, you know. I mean,

910
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,639
the ones that were in my room
seemed more interested in observing, not

911
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,920
harming. I don't feel like at
any point I was in any dan.

912
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,440
I mean, obviously there was that
feeling of vague, you know, you

913
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:10,039
know, uneasiness just because of the
situation. Again, but I don't feel

914
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:13,639
like I was I was threatened in
any way. I definitely didn't feel like

915
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:17,680
they wanted to harm me, Like
I said, it was just I felt

916
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:25,279
it was more an observe observation situation. It's understandable you'd come to that conclusion

917
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:29,319
because if it wanted to harm you, they had your dead rights. Yeah,

918
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:32,920
they sure did. I was nowhere
to go, Yeah, definitely.

919
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,640
Well we're coming up on the seventy
minute mark, and it has been a

920
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,560
long day. I've been locked in
here all day in the studio, so

921
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:45,560
I'm going to get ready to call
it. But before I do, do

922
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,359
you have any closing comments you'd like
to share? No other than just thanks

923
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:54,359
for having me and thank you to
your to your viewers and listeners. I

924
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:59,079
mean, this has been a great
experience. Everybody has has had such great

925
01:08:59,159 --> 01:09:02,159
questions. Some of them made me
actually think about things that I hadn't thought

926
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:08,640
about, or have ideas on these
that I hadn't even considered before. So

927
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:13,880
I just wanted to thank you again
for having me on and it was a

928
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,720
great time. I had a lot
of fun. Well I'm glad you had

929
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,920
a great time too, I know
I sure did also. And yeah,

930
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,319
like you said, the great questions
tonight, they just added to it.

931
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:28,399
I'm really impressed by those questions.
But having said that, Dave, thanks

932
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,000
again so much for coming on and
sharing the details of all those experiences with

933
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:35,279
us. I really appreciate it.
You're very welcome. Thank you, Oh,

934
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:39,800
you're welcome. Thanks again so much, and have a great night.

935
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,640
Well. I can't thank all of
you enough, nearly enough for listening to

936
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,520
the show, for supporting the show
the way you do, for supporting the

937
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:54,199
eyewitnesses the way you do. Thanks
again so much for tuning in. And

938
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:58,840
also if you've had a dog man
related experience as citing that is, and

939
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,439
you'd like to speak with me about
it, or if you'd like to come

940
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,199
on the show and share your experience. All you need to do is just

941
01:10:04,279 --> 01:10:10,000
go to dogmanthecounters dot com and submit
a report. And if you do that

942
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:14,520
then I'll be more than happy to
schedule a film conversation with you. But,

943
01:10:15,079 --> 01:10:17,560
like I said, thanks again so
much for listening in. Have a

944
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:18,119
great night.