Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to this six hundred and tenth episode
of the geek First podcast. My name is Trusting. Now the Clown Prints
a podcast podcast. I am joined by I'm haha, kirklen Patzer. You're
not gonna make a haha Land joke? Are you today? What's it gonna
happen? Haha Land? Okay, good, you know what I'm talking about,
So I get it. I feel like I've seen it before. We're
gonna talk about this is what's gonna happen. So right now we're gonna do
a newscast. If you're on Patreon, when you get the whole episode.
If not, right now, you're just gonna get the Joker Breakdown, because
there's gonna be a bad Batter review in the feed, there's gonna be an
excellent review in the feed, multiple things on the feed, so don't That's
why we're gonna spread out a little bit. But if you're on Patreon,
you get that right away, get episodes, ad for the early exclusive all
the good jazz. But right now, this is just the Joker Trader breakdown.
So I think someone said like months ago, some sure it's happened before
but I feel like every time and I've been a bit more active on Twitter,
it's been like a good thing and a bad thing because I like my
following is I don't know, it's probably like twenty five Okay, I'll say
like five percents, like sex boss, I'm sure right, so like nobody
and then like the other half is movie people and then the other half is
wrestling. But I definitely feel like the wrestling is more so with WrestleMania and
with starting the gimmick, I've been a bit more active on Twitter. Like
I said, that wasn't really the plan. I was trying to get more
unactive, but you know, start a new show, talk with people,
getting it out there and stuff, and then you kind of start talking to
other people about wrestling. So when Joe g ro is doing that, the
trailer came up, we're gonna talk about I feel like every time I was
scrolling, maybe every like hour, someone would quote tweet a damage from the
trailer something and it would say, haha, Land, like la la Land.
But yes, and I'll tell you what, I'm over the joke.
The first time I saw it once like huh, all right. Once I
saw the second time already that was enough for me, Like it's too much.
I thought, point yeah, I thought that's what you were doing.
And then I was gonna be like, oh no, I have to do
that thing where it's like I do this all the time, you know.
I still I guess he gets a little bit of pass. There's no way
he or she are listening. But this is a known fact for the longtime
listeners and you guys. I don't like the word trave. I don't like
being called traf. My mom calls me trav. That's okay. She gave
birth to me, so she gets an excuse. But I get to call
her mother back as an annoyance, which I always do. She's just mother,
So there you go. So she and my sister has done it,
and she kind of gets a pass too, because you know, she's around
with my mom a lot. You know, blood relative. Other blood relatives
will get a pass, though, but Mackenzie gets a pass. It's like,
okay, she's very similar mom. Eventually my mom will pass at some
points. It's like, okay, she can care the on that tradition.
Not a fan of the boyfriend calling me trav, but I've not corrected it.
On him. I've not corrected on him because he's I won't say knew
her, but he's still like like k newish. But luckily I like the
guy that I've said this before you did talk. He just says Trav.
Everybody out except for him. Yeah, I just started taking my belt off,
like not a sexualy but like in like a just both situations. What
the hell's gonna happen? They just look over in the room. They're just
be spanking and he's on my knee. Don't call me Trav, but so
no. And there's like another person that I worked with best by the last
go around where I'm still friends with her and we talk on occasional ketchup.
She had moved and everything, but she calls me trap and it's like,
oh, like I just but I never have the heart because like a nice
and I really don't do it accidentally the people I really don't like you doing
it as people all work because like you don't know me, you're not my
friend, you know, and stuff like that. But my dad's called you
that before. I don't know to you like like if you like I don't
know, asking whatever question like oh with with with Taylor and Trav or like,
which is weird because I've never said that either. It's it's a weird
sounding nickname to me, even though I've known you for a long time and
you know, I met other Travis's, but I've never once thought of like
calling them travs. Well, I'll just say, if Kirkland's dad's listen,
this's better, shut your fucking mouth, and I'm joking, pull up your
belt. I will spank you out next time we see the movie together.
I'm sure you're either going on me, Kirkland, Terra Sen a bunch of
ways west Side this month. I'm sure i'll see it one of them.
That belt ready like Trav. It's gonna be like the rock at WrestleMania where
he had like a belt that had his name or someone's name. One.
I'm just gonna have a weightlifter's belts gonna say Trav and anyone says trap,
you get the Trav belt. No, But I think that's just the thing
people. I don't give people nicknames because even when we first started, Dang,
Kyle kept calling Emily M. I'm like, I never call Emily M
Like on the rare occasion, I guess I'm just not. Maybe that's why,
because the TRAV thing. I'm not a nicknamed person, you know,
That's why I don't know how much I don't like it. I'll ask like,
Hey, what do you prefer? And once I hurt enough people and
Shay call you Kirk And usually I just say kirk because on my phone it
always changes it to Kirkland, like the brand, so so I always like,
I don't actually call you Kirk like for the most part, maybe like
five percent of the t but I do want text because I just don't want
to type it out because it's a Costco brand, you know. No,
I like that. I'd rather Kirk than Kirkland. The worst is when people
like say Kirkland and like really emphasize the D, which is not in my
name at all, and like I'm so used to it now. It's not
like I, you know, taking the belt off, ready to spank them
or anything, but it's just I hear it and it's like a little it's
like a little nail on the chalkboard, like really minorly, but it's just
like, well, yeah, I heard that heard that D in there,
which is not in my name at all, and that's her That's how I
feel about Trav. And then the other thing I hate is Chad because over
the phone I work, I work with a lot of I'll say older people
at times, I mean people that aren't too tech savvy, meybe or phones
aren't the best. All the time, I'll say Travis speaking, you know,
customer relations, and it's Chad. Oh hey, Chad. I get
Chad almost as much as I get Travis. Today I got jazz, which
was something so I just wandered the own cuts out. But yeah, it's
it's a whole thing, but weird. I feel like I always try and
say someone's full name unless they like say specifically call me, call me this,
you know, like like whatnot or you can like yeah, like even
then, I don't know. I just feel like it's it's nice to say
their their full name. I've worked with many different people with many funky names,
and uh, I don't know, like, yeah, I guess just
a personal thing next cast because I know it is the worst. He'll never
live a big oh you guys, just a cryptic clues episode, like no,
you listen to the podcast that you're on called geek first, you never
listen to stuff he'll pop in the chat for something. Oh hoy, it's
like we didn't you say you're sick? And then he like disappears, But
we should just start. We just just agree to call him Tay from now
on and don't don't say anything, not even tell them, just like,
what do you think? Tay? And everyone just see if he thinks what's
going on? You know? But yeah, I like to speak. Gonna
listen to this so we know we'll get away with this. He's not good
at all. But speaking of crazy people, that's a lot of stuff on
the feed x Men go check out the x Men review. Tons of fun.
We just did juicy stuff there, Tato's bad Batch. We got Civil
War coming out side Quest. The gaming I said I started wrestling show was
s Bubs and David. We reviewed Wrestledmanias. Those were very fun, very
very great night. It's great to be a w fan once again. It's
just it's a it's a good time over there. So yeah, you just
come around. I feel like you were so done with WW for a while.
I was, but now because they brought your boy Cody back, that
was the start of it. I watched it because of Cody, but it
was still bad product. But it's like, well, Cody's there and then
Punk came, but now that Vince is not there with the terrible creative,
it's it's great for Blake just run the show. So it's, uh,
doesn't Cody have like his own his own thing? Is that? What did
he left a w AW there? Yeah, which is getting shipped on this
week because they're maybe not maybe not the best call or anything like that.
So that's a whole I gotta I feel like I definitely don't focus in on
wrestling, but like it's nice to just get updates every like quarter or something,
or like you keep a live show. You did a stream, there's
a free again. It was a fun time for sure. Maybe will for
forty went out of the price good. No, there's this thing months ago
seeing Punk was also last summer at AW. Uh, he got fired because
he got in a fight a backstage. Yes tonight that company AW released the
footage and it really wasn't anything. It just looked like a school yard fight.
But it's because he's spokes off or anything. No belts coming each other.
So it's one of these things that I wasn't lost. People with a
sky are falling. I'm not as far as that, but if you look
at the timeline, they're just getting memed on a lot. So uh but
you know, you know, check out the gimmick. We talked all that
stuff up. Now we're talking about the Joker, which I'm sure he has
some belts, but Joker Too is it's not finally here, but at least
the trad it feels like it's it's like here in the sense of like it's
close. Now it's October fourth there at CinemaCon. We got a trailer which
is gonna pull up. But yeah, it's a sequel off set a Joker.
I keep calling it Joker Too. Don't know why I just don't say
Joker folly I do. Maybe I just think I'm gonna screw it up,
but I feel like I haven't so far. But yeah, it's a trailer
offoly tub the Sport Lady Gaga. They did clarify that it's not a musical
that just music has big elements in here. Sequel to the twenty eight twenty
nineteen biggest radar film of all time, billion dollar movie, and yeah it
is here. Kirkling, what did you think about this trailer setting us up
for Joker two coming this fall. Uh yeah, I this was like a
much anticipated one just to get the first glimpse as to yeah, like like
what this is gonna be. I assume it's gonna be, you know,
along the line, so of what the first movie was very depressing, really
really sad, and it makes you question your own kind of uh morals is
kind of a wrong way to put it, but just what's a better word
for that? It makes you question the people that they worried about that first
movie when all those fun loss like you know, Joker's gonna make people start
going crazy and shoot people. Kirkland was like Homelander and the boys like watch
the screen like this is me is my story. One more bad day and
I'm gonna fucking kill geek first there's gonna be a live stream and I'm just
gonna pull out a belt just spank them to I haven't That's why I didn't
want to use that word, but like it makes you just, I guess,
think about society in a in a different way. Give out questioning your
morals? No, but yeah, I know I I don't think I've revisited
that first movie since I've seen it in in uh in theaters we're speaking of.
We're gonna because we don't retro movies that are they have to be five
years older. Joker will be five years by time. And plus you and
Taylor were not on the original review, so it's kind of a prime retro.
So we are gonna do that. That's why, Yeah, we said,
yeah, good way to end up on the watch list. Yeah,
I gotta be careful. This is gonna get a shrike Kirkle. We're gonna
have to make up some statement about how Kirkland is no longer affilliate with geek
first and stuff. And then yeah, they're gonna go back and scrub through
all those videos and just see like like images of like staring off into the
distance or like looking crazy or something. It all makes sense. They're gonna
find my clones. It's it's all gonna it's all gonna go first fully the
clones. But no, I I have not revisited the first Joker movie since
seen it. It's it's not one that I I seek out for to just
have something on to to enjoy because it's it's so well made, so you
can't he watched this one more time. He's getting triggered. It'll totally turn
me. I got the makeup like ready while watching it, or Shade is
waking up to that, you know that naked meme to he shows the guy
say the door lights, you would like to joke makeup? How do you
like this? Look? We're never gonna get too the trailer it is.
It is a very well made movie, but it is not a feel good
movie, and it is not one that I would you know, just just
see out late at night or whatever to throw on excited to rewatch it with.
I can't believe it's been five years actually since it's come out. That's
that's insane you saying that right now. But yeah, no, I'm very
much looking forward to this. I'm loving the idea of having Gaga in there,
just because she's a super powerhouse and the few things I have seen her
in. But to see the trailer finally, especially just the build up knowing
that it's going to be a musical, and just how much different that could
feel. I still think that this teaser trailer it very much felt like what
the first movie was. There's not like actual singing and dancing, there's not,
haha, land I can understand certain like shots feeling similar to just a
land kind of set up, mostly because there's two people dancing and if you
know there's going to be you know, a musical element to it, I
can get the comparison to life, like, yeah, that's I'm agreeance with
you. I feel like that joke could get old very very fast. But
no, I think this was a good teaser trailer. It got me excited
and like it didn't didn't show like too much reveal wise, like I don't
feel super spoilered like I maybe did in you know another movie or trailer that
we'll be talking about later if we get to it. But another trailer we'll
be speaking about per se Yeah another ha haa one perhaps, but uh,
I guy's wrong. Maybe they misread the trailer you're talking about. That is
the one actually, Okay where the hall part come from. There's a character
laughing in it. But you know McAvoy crazy, Okay, Yeah, we'll
get yeah, we'll get there. I say too many words. You tell
me what you thought about? This happens in these two man casts, you
know, Yeah, Dylan and Taylor both sick, so it means one of
us are next, hopefully not. But that could be be that's only that
dead air there for a second, very ominous. Uh yeah, No,
I'm I was incorrect when I said many years ago that Man, Joker Two's
gonna come out, and especially when my billion dollars, like, Man,
we're gonna get so many more experimental comic movies, and lo and behold,
the next experimental comic movie was Joker two five years later. That's like I
thought, for sure, That's why I wanted MOVI do so well. I'm
like, oh, man, seriar is gonna perk up, and like,
look at what they did. And you could even say that Batman's like close
to it, but still it's like still like a Batman movie, right,
I think it is. I won't say like an indie, but it's more
less mainstream. It's probably the I'm confidence saying it's the least mainstream Batman movie.
Would you agree with that? Out of the ones we've gone before,
like the Batman and I'm not saying it's not mainstream, but out of all
of them, I think the slow pace, the detective miss no for sure,
too much action scenes like veering on radedar, like it's very much the
least general audience Batman movie that they've ever done. Yeah, like that's the
closest, but like Logan came before, and I could kind of say Spider
Verse, but it's tough because I'm not gonna throw animation, because animation you
do tons of great stuff, very different. I look at the live action
crew and much like I get that there's lots of people don't like this movie,
whether it's the edge words stuff, whether it's I don't want to see
Joker alone, whether it's all this isn't how they meet up, which I
really don't care about. That's what I'm gonna get to my point, where
uh or they just don't feel it needs a sequel yet to da. For
me, I love DC. I love Marvel, but we've gone so much
of it where I'm not gonna say I don't want a general superhero venture like
the Marvels or Blue Beetle or et cetera. Right, But for me,
it's just that I will take a Joker and a Joker to any day of
the week over especially with MCU and DC had been putting out lately, not
kind of the bat and I'm talking about like the last like Shazam and all
Comman like we have fun. We had a good time with those. Like
I'm not saying they can't all exist, but for me, like just the
visuals in this alone, it's like if Aukaman or Blue Beetle or the Marvels
or ant Man suck, it's kind of like, well they suck, and
there's not much there. This movie could suck character wise, story wise,
but even a least, it's like, wow, these visuals are really great,
right, where a lot of the other comic movies right now you don't
have that. It has to be like, those things have to be good
because the actual just movie making stuff is never supremely well made, right because
they're pump they're pumping them out, or they're spending budgets on the actors,
which they are in this movie. This movie is like a two hundred million
dollar movie. It's more bigger than the first one. So we'll see how
that fares. But I just think this is gonna be a hit because speaking
of my sister, she rarely texts me. All this stuff she texts me,
which I don't know why she thinks. I guess sure. She's like,
is Joker two gonna be good? I'm like, well, the trailer
look good, so I hope, I would hope and be like, I
can't tell you that, Like she trusts you with those opinions, you know
she must. That's a good thing. I'll take that as a good thing.
After our movie came out and they trust us a little bit more.
But that's why because whether lots of people saw obviously Joker, but lots of
people if they didn't, Gaga is like a spike in the ass like that
will get people like, man, I'm really interested. That's what it's like
with cast things you never heard before. I think I'm kind of like alluding
to like a steroid like a sike and then that look get you going.
But not that I've done them or anything like that, because and that's side
joke. Once I I'm not gonna say anything about wrestlers or volleybullas, but
once I found out like that thing could like make your balls and peel smaller,
absolutely not. I'm very happy with my above average. Yes I have
measured, I'm above the average, but even then, like I don't want
that to shrink at all, Like that no end, Oh dude's back me
is just disgusting. It's not worth the muscles, whatever it is, I
don't care. So any spike my ass has just been sugar or juices or
a person who knows. But I will say that this movie, like I
said, everything could be dog shit, but one, I don't think the
acting's gonna be dog shit. Like we know they're gonna bring it, like
walking one an Oscar Last Go Round. I think Gaga could very much win
an Oscar for this. I think she's gunning for it here. And I
for some reason, like it looks like a twohander, but I feel like
there's gonna be certain moments where Gauga is taken over this film, and I
think she might end up being the antagonist. I don't know. I don't
know if it's sort of a like a like, oh, so they're both
gonna be talksic, but it just looks like there's a certain things we'll talk
about where it's like, Okay, this looks a bit confrontational. Uh,
and just again visually, there's multiple shots will pause in this trail there.
But this thing is just like so much craft we made. Oh that's the
other knock right, It's like oh, because it's like, uh, Joker
was like a play on Robert den Arrow and Scorre says, these taxi,
so it's like all this movie copies a lot of them, et cetera,
et cetera. It's like, okay, sure there are those elements, but
for me in the comic movies, when we've gone so much just kind of
general, yeah, it's fine. And then like I don't know when I'm
ever gonna watch the Marbles, Blue Beetle, Aukaman to Shazam to Man,
Like I don't know when I'm gonna rewatch those, Like I'm just gonna say
if ever, because I will watch them at some point, especially not to
be like, uh negative, but like if an actor passes, that's where're
like, oh, I'm gonna go back and I'll like feel good and watch
these right, But like with a joke er, I've watched that many times
because I guess I'm a sick o and I'm just waiting, you know,
I'm already passed ones like trying to mess his morals up. My morals were
already fucked. I lost him a long time ago, so I can just
watch like Home. But like I liked her, like I love horror movies,
so I like the depressing stuff but I'm just the filmmaking on this.
I'll take this any day over the week over anything most of the time that's
been coming out as of late. So yeah, on the the Oscar topic,
do you think I was just thinking about this earlier today? But like
you think, if Joaquin does like an even better performance than what he did
in the first movie, like do you, I still feel like it would
be a less chance that he gets an Oscar for portraying the same character in
the same role, even if it is like that much better. I just
feel I don't know, I'm not a big fan of award shows in general,
so maybe that's where some of my text me the whole time. He's
like, why are you watching this trash stop trave? Get off that trav
Yeah, I'll look like plus fifty crew A bet you liked that Winter or
high you loser on award shows what I'm doing fucking play by play? Yeah,
I think there's a good chance for him to get nominated. But the
wind No, I think a norm is easy because it's like, well,
let's give them that. I think Gaga and this is me saying this in
what is it May April, when we have seen all the other movies,
but I think as if it's the same quality of the last time. I
think anom is locked. I don't know about Best Picture because that's a little
bit different. That was more surprising when the movie got nominated for Best Picture
and he got nominated for Best Director, because the second go around, it's
the two things right where it is like, oh, well, you've done
this and this is just a oh and more, you know, it's like
okay. Or it could be the surprise where if people have that feeling like
oh, it's just gonna be more of the same, And that's why I
love this trailer. Looks like it has some action, but in most comic
movies, the big set pieces in the trailer are like the action scenes,
right, explosion, a big fight. It has some of those, but
it looks like the biggest set pieces in this are the musical elements. And
Oscars do love musicals, So I think there's a chance where people might think
of it and go, oh, yeah, whatever, like we've seen Joker,
like we don't need to see this again. Maybe will nominate Phoenix,
He's always good. But it could have people being like writing it off,
like whatever, we've seen this before. Right, and then when you see
it go wow, holy shit, kind of like a Batman begins jump to
the Dark Knight. Not that those can nominate, right, but like I
feel like The Dark Knight is such a different movie than The Batman Begins.
You're like, geez, Louise, so there's a chance, but I'll agree
with you that I don't think he went. But also could just be a
weak year, right, We've had that where we do Golden Geeks and we're
like, oh, we only got like six people for this category, you
know, like who else do we want? So it could have been a
shit year for actors, you know. I just I mean again, like
I don't pay attention to these award shows, but like, has anyone ever
won an Oscar for reprising the role of like if they had won the first
time, like that's probably never been up or never happened one, no,
because I know people have been nominated, like I think, But Sheino got
nominated for both Godfathers, but he didn't win for any of the Godfathers.
He won for U Sent to the Woman. So even this, like he
would be making history to even win an Oscar that nominated for the same role.
So even that history's made. If he can pull that off, if
he wins the same thing history made, so he can make a lot of
history. And I feel like he could because he Just what I love about
this trailer, which you'll get into it, is I love already. It
feels like a different Arthur Fleck. Like there's there's shades of the old one,
but he just feels like even a bit more confident the role and even
just the way Phoenix portraying him. He's portrayed this character once, it's like
feels like he kind of knows what he's doing, not that he didn't know
the first time, but I just mean, like when people do sequels,
they kind of already have that gauge right of like they know what they're doing
so well, that first one is very much like an origin, you know,
for him becoming the Joker and like actually donning the air quote mass which
is just his makeup. But yeah, yeah, no, I agree with
you there. I'm gonna bring up the trailer. Yeah, we'll take our
first ad break and then we'll bring the trailer and we're back. I know
he brought the trailer, but you know, spoiler. Yeah, nice litt
Lens flair here like that the great audio. No, that's okay, you
can tell me when the uh the uh the music choice gets in, because
I really loved the music choice. But yeah, and that's the other thing
too, when he said what the spoils much like Joker one, whether people
like it or not, we don't know what's gonna be real and what's not
gonna be real in this movie, right, I think there's a good well
not get shot. Ever, I think all musical sequences are obviously not real.
There's a chance some people to put the theory out that even Harley isn't
even real the whole time. I could just be a figure of this imagination,
you know, which I'm fine with. I'm not always a fan of
like it was a dream or dream see like dream like copp Outs, But
with the Joker and this version of the Joker, I'm fine because he kind
of There's been versions of that where he does have multiple personalities or multiple realities,
so I'm fine with them. I feel like that's such like a meme
in like storytelling. It's just like and then he woke up like like you
know, like like at the end of the the story or whatnot. I
somewhat like the idea of like a character that we're interacting with all being not
a real character like in reality. But that's just like if we're following the
story through our protagonist's point of view, like they perceive them as an actual
character. I do like stories that do that. For this one, I
don't know how i'd feel about it, just the fact that it is Harley
Quinn, like it is a established character just in the like the world of
Batman. I definitely want her to be real, and I don't know I
from this trailer, I definitely got certain notes of what you were mentioning earlier,
of them possibly having some sort of clash or I don't know, the
theory of her potentially being like a threat. I do like that idea actually,
just for what the story is. But I also don't want it to
make it, you know, like Arthur being the hero all of a sudden,
because he still is a very you know, he is a criminal.
I don't want it to be him switching for the sake of having a new
villain in there or whatnot. But I think it would only switch away,
like not to save Gotham, but just like to win against her, like
that would be the way, right, Like, I don't maybe that sort
of route, but and yeah, they're doing some change up. I know
some people are like, oh, you know, she's not the therapist and
stuff, but again I'm I'm fine. It's an adaption. There's many versions
of it. Sure, I'd love to do that, but guess what,
Susaid's God had that chance and they fucked it up. So here we are,
and I guarantee you this is gonna be much But like, to me,
the point of Joker and Harley is they're falling in love right now.
It's gonna be different too, because I don't know. If I don't think
we're getting that. I almost got the dynamic. We'll wait to get some
shots, which this shot you pause. It really like the umbrellas, which
is funny because if you look at the umbrellas in the scene, they're not
really colorful. But then I didn't notice that in the first union of the
trailer actually where yeah the umbrellas are, they're just black. And that's what
makes me think it's like switching to that dream like sequence thing where you're seeing
it more in like a higher life, as if he's taking drugs or something.
You know, like, yeah, everything's uplifted, and I like the
idea of the whole movie might be kind of a ride like that, right,
So, but uh yeah, Like I don't know if they're doing that
dynamic where he's a piece of shit to her and he still loves them for
it. I almost think they might be doing the reverse from some of the
feelings I got that they fall in love and she's the demanding one and he's
the one that's kind of at ba Because what I got from this trailer is
I feel like they're trying to nurse him back to health, and she's the
one kind of pushing them to be like the Joker again, you know,
like, oh, show me a real face, where I think they're trying
to be like, oh, it could be you know, you can be
Arthur Fleck again, you can have a normal life. I feel like she's
the one pull and the Joker out of them. So I like that idea
as well, because it's I mean, it's different than what the normal dynamic
between Harley and Joker is, especially like her just trying to always be the
number one, you know, like in his eyes, but him just kind
of pushing her to the side. So I would like that switch up,
and even just the switch up of her not being his therapist anymore. I
do like that dynamic well, because this is also just a very different world
than our normal Batman world is. But it's just that could that's more I
think for the story it does. But that's the other thing too, if
it was a whole Dree was this movie that could fit too where she cuts
this movie ends with him sitting on the couch talking to the therapist and it's
Harley and he's just imagined this whole thing, right. I don't know if
I want that, because I like Joker one, where I like it's like
there's aspect of it where it's like what's real what's not? But yeah,
they could just go the full Monty it seems to her Craus of course,
I'm curious. I'm guessing this is probably just gonna be flashbacks to her before
she got in there, and I'm wondering how she gone there and the timeline
of the stairs, because clearly she's like a fanatic of him, So is
this her visiting the stairs after that? Is this just a coincidence? I
don't know, But yeah, back to back we get her kind of recreating
shots of the movies, right because she does that, and who's not gonna
fall for Lady Gaga, come on doing that? Like look at this shot
right here, man, this is a shot where he is in the dark,
the spotlight goes on him. You just see him. He's has a
cigarette. It is just be that's right there. It's like, man,
it's what the movies are. What the movies are for, you know,
so great stuff like look at the color of the windows and everything a like
like this feels I hate to make the comparison, but like a Lalla Land
type scenario, especially him all this is a scene that people share as h
high Land most it's the one who come out with the hotel Arkham or whatever
it is. But it is. But I like that and I'm so excited,
Like it looks very old school musicals and everything. And then yeah,
I'm curious to see because we've heard it like a jukebox music and like that
cut right there. That's why I like, go back a second. That's
why I can't wait for It's them dancing and like the La La Land musical
scenario and then when they turn they flip it in them real world dancing,
all this crime stuff. That's why I'm completely fine, if not fine,
Like I'm like, I am fine, like none of the music stuffs real,
Like I'm fine with that being like an allegory to like half of the
characters are growing through, you know, Like I'm all down for that.
That's fun experimental. I like that part and that almost like makes me,
as someone that doesn't like musicals, U uh, enjoy that more because it's
right, it's not them singing in the real world. It's like, oh,
well, they're hallucinating this, you know, one hundred percent, And
like that's something I feel like I didn't think about too much beforehand when I
knew it was gonna be a musical. But even just the first movie,
when he's either has that relationship with the lady in his building and like there's
certain moments that are just so positive and like happy, but then like in
the world, like the reality of what the world is like that is just
not his world. So then when it switches, it's just really like,
holy fuck, this is intense. And I think the pairing of the musical,
even just that shot of them, you know, he has his makeup
on, they're wearing like big gala outfits, just like really like fancy attire,
and then like a quick cut to them basically in hospital clothes with an
ambulance in the background Flames. It's just yeah, it's gonna fit really well.
And even then is that them fully out because they know that's a see
where she says, oh, it's out of here. That also looks very
reminiscent of the ending of the first movie, Like there's flames, there's like
a riot going on, and like this shot too, this like I can't
wait to see is this fanatics as well running after him or is this like
other people that are Joker because in the first movie, same thing you wouldn't
remember this. When he's running away from the cops, he gets hit by
a car much like this guy wearing a mask and that looks like a similar
mask of what he wears. Then he got the Joker behind him. So
that's why I kind of like this idea of she's pulling the Joker out of
him and he's like literally in his mind running away from the Joker. Like,
I enjoy this stuff. It's gonna be fun. I hope that guy's
okay. Yeah, Like the live band, look at the visuals there,
Well you got this trailer on high speed there eight or no you don't.
It was just moving was it normal speed? Normal speed? Okay that those
scenes were just looking like they're moving super quick. Show. But yeah they're
back on the Maury Show that where he killed a narrow right, So yeah,
obviously that's gonna none of this is gonna be true. Yeah, people
in the crowd are way too happy. Look at these smiles. There's no
way that's right. Maybe be a little more concerned, but great. Laugh.
Yeah, and then how do you feel about that that look there for
the Harley address? And even then too, this is stuff where it's like,
again, is this real? Is this not real? I think this
is real. I think this is him at his trial or something. But
it's still like you don't know what it's gonna be, but uh, yeah,
this is I think the look looks good for what this world is.
I don't even think it's a bad look. I'm just saying that this fits
what this vibe is, and I enjoy it. I agree it fits the
overall aesthetic of just darker and I don't know, like it's just a really
good version of the Harley, like classic attire because she even has like the
like the checkered print in there, as well as as the makeup and like
the greasy slip back hair too. It just it seems dirtier and grittier than
maybe the more like animated style of the character. You have another individual in
the back here with some joker makeup. I agree with you. I think
this is definitely a real shot. Maybe I don't know, I don't want
to say closer to the end, but maybe in the main meat and potatoes
of it, if we are having like a trial sequence, I've mentioned this
point. They're playing What the World Needs Now is Love by Burt back Rat,
who I only learned that back in the day as a kid from Awesome
Powers, Because have you seen Awesome powers? Yeah, I've seen awes some
powers. When him and Vanessa are having like dinner on the bus and he
looks at the car and is like, ladies and gentlemen, mister burn Back,
Oh yeah, Love. I mean so like I've heard the song before,
but that was my first core memory of that song. Someone that says
like, oh man, good choice. I like that. So, like,
see she's putting on his makeup. Now go back a little bit.
I'm not trying to spoil stuff here, and this is just like a theory.
Go back to when they're kicking on the stairs, because I even want
to see it. Well, you went back too far, you know,
I've seen that already. You forgot that Dylan trick. Hey, it's uh,
it's got time and place now, it's not the So some people and
this could be a dream sequence, but some people are speculating if she's pregnant
in this scene, or it could just be the way her dress is flowing.
Right, but that dress is flowing, particularly around her belly. But
then like right there, doesn't look like she's pregnant right necessarily, So it's
tough, does it. Okay, Well, there you go. So I've
seen three pregnant bellies I don't know, and then even look at two on
the left side, right where her foot is pregnant. Yeah, right where
her foot is. It says free on all charges. So I'm not sure
what that means. I don't think this is really if you look at the
background, like there's nothing there, it's just a black screen. But yeah,
so that's why this could be him. I think she's pregnant in the
scenario, but I think this is him thinking about like, oh, he
would go to court free in all the charges. He's praying Harley's pregnant,
like this is the perfect life he's thinking of. So I think this is
she's not gonna be pregnant and this is all BS. I think he's just
thinking about, like what would be the perfect life, being free, being
Harley having a kid. No, I totally agree with you. I think
that. I mean it fits just the pattern of like like a best case
scenario for him in his mind is probably not what actually is gonna happen.
And the worst Yeah, this would be another one's example. Let alone the
just the void in the background. Yes, and the other thing too when
we didn't have the audio, but the therapist he was talking to is like,
oh, you seem different. He's like, well, yeah, I'm
not alone. I think that's the other thing. They're gonna make Harley seem
very dangerous because the last movie and in this movie, you're gonna have almost
everyone telling him that he's wrong and how the way he thinks is wrong,
and then you're gonna have Harley being that little devil being like, oh no,
you're right, you're right. So I love that line, he's like,
yeah, something has changed. I'm not alone anymore. Because for the
even his mother that wasn't like a healthy relationship, right, So it is
kind of giving him power, but obviously probably put him in the wrong direction
because there's not a good person and not just Harley too. Right, Like
even just in the first movie, we see the the fanboys of him,
like the the people Mimicken wearing the makeup. Like even just throughout this trailer,
we're seeing a lot of people dressed up in the makeup, and I
mean, right here the signs of like we heart the Joker. Even if
this is a dream sequence, there's definitely still going to be characters like that
outside the courtroom, like in real life, like rooting for him. Yeah,
like there would be in real life, you know there. Oh yeah
absolutely, yeah, yeah, like you're talking about people. So now that
go back, I have whoa baser? I said, go back? He
went forward by times ten. I pause. I want to see what I
talk about. Let's train. I feel it must be must be the internet,
because sometimes it goes really fast for me, So that's it must be
the internet. Yeah, so go yeah, go back to that one in
him the White suit, because that was all right there and like cool,
you got Harley in like a wedding dress or something like that. But yeah,
I go back, like a couple of inches I had. I've done
this Joker before, I've had Hell. I had a Halloween caution plan.
But the second I saw this, especially because I got the long hair and
however Halloween, I was like, man, that I love when Joker's in
a white suit. There's just that's a very dark night aesthetic, not not
the movie Dark Knight return or returns. I whatever, this look is,
this wedding look. I'll say, man, he's looking fly here. It
works really well with the clown makeup version one too, so I was good.
Great lighting, looks creepy, just looks like it just it's white.
But the suit just pops like great saturation. Just love everything about this.
I think there's gonna be quite a few of these shots that just go to
like pitch black, like as if it is like just all the focus on
the one character or like just what he's focusing on in that moment. It
also is just a great transition to like a musical number, you know,
like if they're in a really like in the real world. If it's really
sad and dark and they're pressing environment like a prison or something, you can
just kind of get taken out of that. If he just goes to like
fade a black and then the spotlight comes in. They're wearing these fancy garbs,
and that's what's curious. Sometimes she's not in the jail cell, right,
So that's what's like, seems like she's free and he's not, especially
at the end, and that's where he says, oh yeah, I'm not
alone. But yeah, like look at those shots, like just the lighting
going on here, great stuff, the hotel Arkham, that's good. And
then like they're right there man, that blue going on. Oh yeah,
YoY, I'm excited. He's on the TV screens popping off. Well,
there you go, escaping the asylum possibly or court room whatever this is or
not or not. This looks like Batman coming to save him or something from
The Batman. The same scene the Riddler with that judge. Pretty much it
looks like, yeah, oh yeah, I guess right there with the gun,
yeah, the gun and her doing the blood. I just wonder if
she gets some complex where she feels like she can be a better joker.
Than he could be a better like than him, right, because I feel
like he's good. There's gonna be some it's tough because he feels more confident
here, so he could just be like, I'm fine to do this.
But I'm just wondering why they might get get to be an antagonist. And
I could see him pull back if you, I was gonna say, right
behind her, that looks like a guy with his head blown off, right,
looks like a guy faced down, blood on in the back of his
head. Oh geez. So I don't think he makes it. Oh,
I did not notice that at all. I thought that was like a guy's
sleeve or something. Yeah, So that's I'm curious to see what the breaking
point in between these tweries, and I think it will whether it's him or
her. I think it will come down to somebody not being joker enough,
or maybe he doesn't live up to the legend that she sees, right,
because at the end of the day, Arthur does have his problems that he
wasn't always a violent guy. He kind of snapped, So I wonder they
could that. I just feel like that's what they're gonna do, is they're
gonna flip the scenario where she is more the aggressor, and that could be
it where he just wants to get out and be in love with her,
where she wants to get out and be like, you know, you gotta
be the joke or you gotta like create have it and lead people and everything,
right, because all these visions we see most of the time it's just
him with her, So no, for sure, something like it's interesting too
because this seems very much like the setting of one of the dream sequence type
situation where they're like they are wearing different clothes. He's wearing a full suit
with the makeup and there's just like an audience in the background as well.
But like, how does that kind of like the whole movie can't be you
know, like a like a flashback or like to a dream sequence, Like
there has to be some realms like watch me. Yeah, so yeah,
this is actually would be the exact same moment, right because that's the dead
guy leaning down. She's wearing the same jacket with the blood. It Actually
this looks like a courtroom. Actually, hey, it kind of does.
Yeah, like with the evidence bankers boxes in the back and those look like
lawyers, so maybe they're in like in the courtroom there and then it just
breaks out into song and dance, and it's a balance of the of the
two. This shower here too of him going man, and then this one
too of it's where at the end where they do the smile and the glass
and they focus on arth or they pull back, it's a smile, and
then there's just really cool, really well done. I enjoyed it. It's
been memed on a little bit on the internet because like they have Da White
do this in the office. Oh look, it's not that hard of a
shot. But it's like I always thought that, but when we've done a
movie, it's like some of the easiest shots you would think, oh that's
probably easy, they're not. Man, they sometimes canna take the most fucking
time. So it's like, just looks really great. It's inspiring for you
know, a DP director of photography exactly making movies. It's just watch this
trailer. It gave me so many things. I like, no ideas like
oh still, I'm just like, man, I want to when we don't
have time crunches for these next ones, really deliver some other nice shots and
stuff. So but yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to this type of movie
where I know there'll be one more trailer, but I don't really need and
I don't even think the world needs it that much. But I know they'll
give us at least one more. But I'm excited. You can't wait?
Yeah, Oh, I was gonna say, I got two questions for you,
one for me and one from Summer Anser, which I forgot to give
you because we were a little later on the X Men ones. But let's
say you walk into theater. You've seen trailers for both of them. You
walk into the theater tomorrow, you can only this isn't hands these questions mine?
You got Deadpool, O'lverring, you got Joker Too? Which one are
you walking into? Like a trailer for each or know the movie? You've
seen one trailer for them? Now we got the Deadpool over we won,
and then we got this one. You go into a theater tomorrow, surprise
like, oh, you're not seeing Civil War. You get to see either
a Joke or Too or Deadpool Wolverine. What you're walking into. This might
be crazy, but I don't think i've actually seen the wolver the Deadpool trailer.
Were you in the super Bowl cast with us? No, I had
to miss it for whatever reason. Oh, you've never seen the dead Wolverine
trailers. Yeah, I've avoided this whole time. That's crazy. So probably
wolver the Deadpool, especially now you haven't seen a trailer, would be a
great experience. Yeah, it'd probably be that one, just for entertainment wise,
Like, I'm expecting to feel terrible when I leave Joker too, just
how I felt after the first movie. This is the one that will really
push him over the edge. Guys look out. Uh we kind of answer
one of these, but she has since the first was nominated in one oscars.
Any early predictions what Joker she might be nominated for and win? I
think we talked about the bit that I think Walking has a chance. I
think Goaga will for sure be dominated and could win. All to see the
field, I bet stuff like production and maybe score we'll see. I still
think even though they said it's a jukebox musical, which do you know what
that means, Kirkling, a jukebox musical. Jukebox musical is a musical that's
based on other songs, so it's not original songs. It's like we're gonna
sing you know halla back girl, and they're gonna sing that job too.
Now they're not. They're not. They're not gonna do Hallo back girl,
but it's gonna be super dramatic, like someone get the courtroom they know,
and just walking just like walking downstairs. Yeah, they're like, we're not
giving you that fucking Oscar bro. You fucking you should have never came back
for that's what you're doing. I still think. And because even in the
post or her label record is listed, there's no fucking chance she's not doing
an original songs. She did original song for Top Gun. She wasn't even
in that movie. So I think that it'll win Original Song because Gaga,
and if she doesn't win Best Actress, that's the way to give it to
her director in picture. We'll see because there could be stuff one those thoughts
st all Rey locked you got Dune and Dylaney Deniveilneuve, so that's like a
one on one done there and directors. There's only five so that would be
four more, so we'll see. And then the other one. Hansy,
I love you for asking this, but will Joker to be better than Joker?
That's a tough one. That's that's like my sister you're like, you're
exactly My sister heys that same question. I don't know, because I think
it's gonna be different strokes for different folks. I think that these movies will
have a similar vein, but with this being a two hander with Harley and
Joker versus the first one just being about Arthur Fleck and that one being a
bit more of a crime in the self inner look drama. This, I'm
sure we'll have crime and some self reflection, but this definitely think is gonna
be more an theatrical entertainment one, a bit more variety. There's gonna be
some dark stuff, but I think this is gonna be a bit more poppy.
So I think what it comes down to, I think maybe it'll blow
me away. I better Aussie subjective. I think I'll probably end up still
leaning Joker one because I love just Hey, you're sitting with a character for
two two and a half hours, you know. I love that. I
love shame, I love Drive like even not not really sulper nixtent, because
there's lots of other ones. I'm trying to blink on another American psycho like.
I love those, So I'll probably lean that way. But what about
you, Kirkling, it's gonna be better than Joker one? Do you know
this? No, it's not going to be. It's no, I don't.
I don't think it's going to be. I don't think it's gonna hold
up to just what that first experience with like with this version of Joker is.
I don't think that can ever be met because like like there's not even
like a comic book run of this type of Joker, right, yeah,
like it is very much its own, and then the second one is building
upon that with adding some new characters and things in the mix. I think
it's still going to be fantastic, and I think Gaga is going to be
I think she's probably gonna be like the real talk of the town after this
one. Joaquen, like he's gonna be fantastic. But I think it's really
is going to be where she shines. But yeah, I don't think it's
gonna quite hold up because I don't know, like I kinda I'm gonna like
set my expectator or not my expectations, like my my my mood maybe going
into this movie, whereas like going to the Joker, like the first one,
like we had seen trailers, it's like, hey, there's gonna be
a fucked up movie. But when you're actually in there and certain scenes unfold,
like I felt sick to my stomach and that might happen again. But
I'm at least gonna be somewhat prepared for those moments. But yeah, I
don't I don't think it'll quite meet it. But yeah, curious numbers wise,
at least what it's going to do financially. Probably Yeah, I'm not
gonna say yeah, I'm not gonna say a billion, but I'm I don't
think it's gonna be a flop. I think people are still gonna come out
to see this one. I think it's unique enough and you get the stars,
so it's not gonna be the Captain Marvel to the Marvels. It's not
gonna be that drop off. I don't think so. Oh no, I'll
say I'll say at least six hundred million. That's my barrama I've been saying.
Right now, we'll see what we get closer October. Let me do
like, that's a bunch of horror stuff coming out, But that's the right
that's a perfect month for Joker, you know, And I'm excited to see
many couples stressed up as this for Halloween. I am just as bad.
I saw that soon I was look at that I got the hair. That's
the only reason. Because I got the hair. I was like, man,
I got the hair. I got long hair, so I may as
well try it. But we'll see. I was talking about maybeing Airic Gorn
or bor Mire because we've talked about doing a Lord of the Rings team this
year. So but the problem is Logan wants to be Aeric Gorns. Is
like, do we do too? But then I thought, well, get
that big short the shield, get the horn. I could rock that.
Are you gonna get her some stubble or something? Because Ara goings cut.
We'd have to, Yeah, we'd have to. I think we'd give her.
We'd do the Crown version one, but we gotta wait. But yeah,
we don't know about el Ellie. And then Gwen was gonna be canned
off. But now I think she's gonna be a Ghostbuster because she likes She
likes ghostbusters a lot, so I respect that. But I want to see
the little gandal I would have too. Yeah, that would have been great.
The gray. She probably likes the grave. I'll ask her that tomorrow.
I'll ask her because she asked me that question, but I don't think
I asked I wouldn't I asked her back on it. We still don't truck
through the Hobbits. The Hobbits are definitely not as well liked as Lord of
the Rings. We're still like, we still watch them, but they're not
being asked about as much as the Hobbits were when we were watching those.
So let's take our next break when we're talking about some other trailers and news.
We'll be right back and we're back. So, yeah, we're gonna
talk about just some random moved news that come out the past couple of weeks,
and some trailers. We're talking about Cuckoo, we're talking about Maxine,
We're talking about Tails of the Empire. We're talking about is there another one?
There's Speak No Evil? And I feel like I'm missing another one.
No, am I not Cuckoo, the Empire, Maxine, Speak No Evil?
Maybe I'm just thinking because joker, I think that's what I'm probably mixing
up with. But yeah, let's I want to speak. I want to
start with speak No Evil. Matt, you did say the trailers, which
will but he asked, because originally was not on the rundown, but we
did add it. Don't worry about it. I had you cover thoughts on
Speak No Evil trailers, So this is one. Do you remember when we
talked about this a few months ago? Like I don't really remember us talking
about it, but like, while I was watching the trailer, I had
like remembered just some of the like what the idea of it was, like
like it told because it's the remake right of that European one that's really fucked
up? You said, it's really yeah, so yeah, well now yes
I remember, but yeah, while I was watching it definitely came back.
It's so interesting because when I had the conversation with these guys and even everybody
online is okay, skip five minutes. I don't want to spoil anything.
But then this trailer comes out and man like they they I thought they gave
a lot away. And it's funny because my history with this movie is I
heard is very fucked up, and I was like, well that sounds right,
my alley. I watched it, and again, the whole movie is
not really fucked It's the third act. There's lots of child trauma in it.
So that's where it's like, if you don't like that, there you
go. And it's a very good setup. But I have lots of problems
with the third and the back half of the second act. April loved it.
I think I think she cares the most part, but me and madd
you have like the same complaints where it's like, could be great, and
then you know there's some questionable stuff that happens about like like movie making,
not like of course, like child trauma is also not questionable that there's no
question about just straight up bad. I'm not like watching The Joker over here,
you know. But so this trailer trauma, I don't know, this
movie's making me think as you're watching Joker too, and she's pregnant, like
yeah, sis. Trailer definitely picks up on what the movie is. It's
a couple of meets another couple that has a kid. They strike up relationship
on vacation, so you should come to our home. They go to their
home and a bunch of weird stuff starts happening, which you see here.
There's a lot of stuff. There's action in the house that never happens,
and the originally like when they're there's a scene where she's like spraying James back
boy in the face and they're like holding back like a room or something,
and their breaking like all that stuff of that house. None of that exists
in the European version. And that's the funny thing that May said. He's
like, well, I hope that they could take the European version, or
I don't know if it's Europeaian, might be Dutch. I'm not sure is
Dutch in Europe? Yeah, oh yeah, okay. I don't even know
where fucking streets are in Colonna, man, So I'm the word. I'm
the worst with iconography maps like every Oh it's a confusing place. Yeah.
Literally, when Emily asks like where is it? I have to give her
or I have to ask like what lamp? Like what is by this restaurant?
Is by that? I don't remember anything. But so it's he said,
well, I hope they make that film, but they approve upon some
of those eras, and I counter back with them in our discord discord doun
below check it out. Lots of good stuff in there, always talking about
us and the other listeners. Kirkland likes to I don't know, make an
appearance Larker, but I said, or it's a reverse that they who knows
about like the the issues, but because it's gonna be more Americanized or North
America or whatever domestic, I'm wondering if they're gonna bring some of that stuff
down, like the very brutal stuff. And I think they. I think
they are because I think they're gonna replace a lot of the more psychological damage
that happens in the movie with like let's have James McAvoy chase you. And
it's funny when he got cast I did not know he was playing the crazy
guy. I thought it was him and McKenzie Davis playing because they play like
a very oh we're a night like a normal but kind of quiet to ourselves
couple. And they meet this very outgoing couple that loves to dance, and
there they say stuff that like, oh, I would say, but they're
kind of like they catch their eye that way, like almost that's the couple
we wish we could be, like outgoing, they're fucking all the time,
so it's like, oh, I wish we could be that couple. So
that's why they're kind of drawn to them. So it's funny that McVoy is
playing like the crazy person. I did not know that until I saw the
trailer. That is fun casting. So I'm not sure how I feel about
this. I will watch this. I don't know if i'll watch on the
trailer because of it or in the theater because if it does go throughout the
original. I don't think I need to be in the theater for that,
but I think there's a good chance, especially like, I don't know,
Kirkland, what do you like? I don't I don't know how to Are
you gonna see this movie eventually? For sure? Okay, so you're not
gonna see this movie. So no, it's gonna be one that I probably
watch my dad like Down the Down lind Okay, he's the one I watch
horror movies with all that stuff about the kid's mouth and this trailer, like,
I'm not gonna say what's happening, but I feel like people are smart
enough. There's many times when kids are screaming and there's no audio. There's
times where the kids opening his mouth up you can see that he has no
tongue, where it's like there's something wrong with his tongue right, And then
in the very last Shaw this trailer, he's sticking his mouth open and making
scissors over his mouth. What do you think that implies. I wonder if
he tongue well, and in the original that's not inferred at all. It's
just he can't speak and you don't see his tongue at all. Like and
that's where I think now with the American version, I don't think it's gonna
be like the European version, Oh this is fucked up. I think they're
gonna really water it down because that's like a big reveal of like, oh
fuck this kid like like that sort's like oh shit like that, like the
title, the everything, and it just they just show it in the trailer.
So that's I feel because when they use those in the original movie to
be a shocking one, I think they're showing that in the trailer because it's
not gonna be a shocking moment. And I said them fighting the bad guys
of the house, there's no big action set piece at the bad guy's house
that zero happened. So I don't know. I'm wondering if they're gonna fully
go with it, and I don't think they were. I'm not saying that's
a good thing or bad thing, But so I think it is a remake,
but I think they're gonna take liberties with a lot of things, but
just this trailer alone, So I'll see it out of curiosity, non thears,
but this trail alone. You said you will see it with your dad.
But did this get you like a oh, it's hat on the list
or is it like a like evenge like uh sometime probably like around the VOD
time. That's probably when when we'd watch it. Like, I think it's
mostly just what the idea is is a freaky concept. And there was some
good moments for sure in this trailer, but overall, I think this is
actually a pretty bad trailer because it just went on for like a minute,
way longer than it should have. I'm complete agreeance with you with like the
whole child and like snipping to the tongue thing, Like why even have that
in the trailer if you're trying to like build up to this big moment.
But I'm in agreeance with you that it's probably because it's not gonna be a
big moment. It's just it's gonna be mostly channeling macavoy from like Split,
you know, like like like that sort of take on it, which which
isn't a bad thing. Like I think the whole setup of what this movie,
like how it starts, I think it's really really good. And when
they get there and things start getting weird, when he's like I'm not a
doctor, Like what are you talking about? Like like those little moments I
think are really really good. But they showed off like so much action in
here, and like multiple multiple scenes and like multiple different I think like periods
of when like when the chaos is unraveling, like like it shows like when
things are first getting weird. It shows like probably scenes at the end when
it's like the dire straits, like they're it's do or die. They're covered
in blood and they're just about to get out. Like like it just seemed
like they showed so much in this trailer. It it kind of you know,
it doesn't leave a lot for you for you to speculate about, Like
I'm pretty sure I know all the main hitting points. Like they even take
us to the basement and you see like the character like react to whatever they're
seeing and you don't see what it is, but like fuck, you basically
see ninety percent of it. Yeah, Like and then then you have the
kid like doing this. It's just that was so agregious. I don't even
know why they had that shot, that last shot of the kid doing that.
It's just like you should just like it's just like spelling it out like
that to me made me think that they're not confident people are gonna go out
to see this movie. And I also don't know why they think showing a
kid like implying his tongue got cut off is also thing that's gonna make people
go see this movie. Like it's a hard movie, like knowing the original
and I don't know how it did over there and like what the market there,
but like it would be a hard movie to market, so I can
see why they made it more action y. But I think this, I
don't know how this movie's gonna do. I just I gotta find out the
date. But I just don't see this trailer making it seem like you have
to. I feel like the only thing that's pushing it, which is good
for him, is people might just want to see James McAvoy in a fucked
up role, you know again, because they liked him and Split and he's
great and Split, And I think I'm happy to see him as like a
villain again. But it looks pretty like Bulky too in this movie. He
kept all that split weight like he's like I like him. Yeah, he's
still the Beast. September thirteenth, A right, and when is what else
is? Let me just see what else is coming out? But I feel
like I'm not gonna do the greatest. But yeah, any more thoughts on
that one? Uh No, I don't think so, I'll let you pick
the next one. Oh, by the way, so Beetlejuice, Well,
yeah, I don't know. Be just Beetle Juice is out the week before
Transformers one is out the week of Seo Evil, and then Wild Robot,
which I actually never let go. I don't know why. That doesn't sound
anything like Speak to Evil, but just seems like like the three world title.
Have you seen a trailer for Wild Robot? No? I saw a
trailer when we went to go see like it was Ghostbusters. Man, I'm
looking very forward to it. It's an animated the kids family movie, but
it's uh, I'm looking forward to it. Just keep your eyes open for
it. Interesting, Yeah, yes, both eyes. I'll keep an eye
out. Yeah, not just one. Let's go Cuckoo, Cuckoo lead the
way girl. Hunter Schaeffer watching Joker made you go, you know, yeah,
man, this this was like a nice, little pleasant surprise that this
was like a fun, freaky trailer where it seems like the whole thrill of
like the viewing experience is actually gonna be a fun time. I think it's
got like nothing out of the ordinary for like a villain like I've seen,
you know, a creepy looking like old lady type creature entity in movies in
the past, but just certain shots that were in this, I think it's
gonna be a fun ride, especially just the maybe the experimental nature of the
trailer where it seems like people know what's going on to a certain extent,
and then even like just having Hunter Schaeffer just calling out certain things, It's
like, are you, like, are you insane right now? Like what
the fuck is going on here? I'm I don't know. I just it
was hitting a lot of checkboxes that seems like this is gonna be a fun
ride. And of course you have the text that kind of gets thrown on
screen like a brilliant, lovely, gory adventure. It is just like,
okay, well, I like those words in a sequence describing a certain movie.
So yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I think this one could
be potentially a little bit disappointing, but I don't know. I like the
trailer nonetheless, especially coming off of Speak No Evil. I thought it was
a much better trailer. Yeah, I'm excited because Next Day twenty four.
Neon is just always giving us some really cool stuff. So I'm curiously where
it's gonna go. I do like that. It's almost like you're putting out
the Horry character where she's pointing things out that might happen in a movie.
Now. I hope that they don't become dumb in the third act. That
was when my problems with Get Out That they made the character very smart,
but then the third act, trying to escape that house, it's like you're
making all these decisions that are just not They're all beneath you, right,
So we'll see. I love Dan Stevens. I've said this many times.
I love Dan Stevens. So him playing some weird, villainous, experimental DJ
jockey like whatever he's doing, Man, I cannot wait to see what's cooking
up here. And I loved the anticipation, And that's why I hope this
happens in the theater and the trail when I watch or So in the movie,
and I actually watch it when she's biking home and there's like no no
music and in the distance you just see that thing running and then yeah,
like it was so good, Like even though they've showed us a couple of
times what this creature person looks like up top, and we don't even know
what this thing is. It could be somebody that's like trying to get help,
but they've like lost their mind, so who knows what it could be?
Right, Because I feel like there is some sort of experiment. It
give me some like minor outlast trials, like if someone's up to something that
they shouldn't be, but that I hope the movie has multiple instances like that,
where the build up of like what the fuck is that? And I
think it's almost scarier when that creature or woman whatever it is is further away
and you can't see the face when it's closer, because the closer face still
looks messed up. But I think this looks really good. The only thing
that I worry about this movie is I feel like the third act could have
like a m Night Shyamalan like bad twist to it, like whatever the reveal
of what's going on, it could be like, oh, that's not as
good, So I hope it's something really clever or just something easy and just
make the rest of the movie creepy, like that's what you have to worry
about or do sometimes, like Okay, you don't need a big twist.
If it's just some guys doing experiments and something's gone wrong, then okay,
you just have to make it very well right, like look at Barbarian.
Technically it's just a guy putting people in his basement to like do some weird
inbreding stuff. Right. But then the rest of the movie, so it's
not big twists. It's like, oh, you get revealed, but the
rest of the movie is very well done. That's why you kind of come
back to it. So I'm curious to see I think that does have to
land with me of how we get there, but it doesn't do anything huge.
I just, like I said, I don't want to be something where
we've had that before we go oh man, this is like a little too
far of a stretch. But yeah, I'm excited to see Hunter Shaeffer in
a kind of leading role. She was in Hunger Games, but like,
I don't know, for a cup of coffee. She's great in Euphoria,
and she has this and she has that other that kinds of kindness coming out
too in June with the Euros one, so we're gonna get see some good
stuff here. So yeah, I'm I'm looking this shot up to. It's
always funny we do our most anticipated at the beginning of the year, but
if we were to reave out in the middle, reevaluate in the middle,
like this is one that would be I don't know, top five, but
definitely definitely top ten. It's up there with like long Legs, that other
one where it's okay, what's the deal with this one? Right? So
I can't wait. I can't wait for these small horror films coming out,
so absolutely, speaking of I'm gonna say Maxine next. I you reminded me.
Wasn't even the Rundown you reminded me, And man, I did not
know so much about this. I just know, Okay, Yeah, it's
Maxine as a sequel. I love this weird little horror trilogy they're doing.
I liked x loved Pearl, so I'm gonna try and give X a rewatch,
but I think X kind of got overhyped for me, so I gotta
go back and give it another shot. But even then, I just like
my memories weren't like, oh maybe this is like I think it's a pretty
basic movie, but uh, this movie, it reminds me a little bit
of like Tarantino and Inglorious Bastards, where they fucking said the Nightstalker is and
do you know anything about the Nights Soccer? You could if you don't know,
very pop up. I guess like Famous Killer, you should go watch.
There's a great documentary get Ready for It on for Maxine on Netflix about
it's like a three or it's like a four to five series and it's all
about this. And there was like this hotel that it used to hang on
all the time, and it's a really creepy, scummy hotel. So it's
like was almost kind of known he was maybe killing some people, but like
the hotel is so bad you just kind of let people get away with it.
It literally ended how he got caught was I think he killed someone.
I can't remember if it was in the Spanish or Puerto Rican community. He
killed someone of a certain race and he got off of the charges or got
away with it, and then at some point they found more evidence. So
the police were looking for him, and he was hiding and training out of
town. He went to an area of town where the person like the same
nationality, A bunch of those people were around. They saw him and ended
with this whole city chasing him in the streets like to get like to get
him, and they did and the police got him. But it's a time
this, Yeah, this community just goes against him. And then there's stuff
like when he went to prison, women were sending him like love letters because
he was like the sexy serial killer. He's all about it. Like so
he's like one of the like the big ones as far as like this or
so when I heard all the night soccers out there, I was like,
fuck, this put me right into where it is in La the time,
because that block, like I said, definitely go watch it. It's like
the block was known as being like very druggy, and just like it was
a very bad time for Los Angeles with this guy going around, and I
love that it's gonna be like this Once upon a time Hollywood. Englory's best
was probably like different reality going on. I love the multiple ties into the
old movies where it's like, hey, you know, like we like clearly
they might know she did something right. I love when we have like again
like once upon Time Hollywood, they go to the fucking Baits Motel and what
a cool two for where she sees like the old lady from the last movie
in there, Like I don't know, I wasn't like I was interesting.
I guess I was excited. But again, same thing as trailer put on
a different level where both Pearl and X I did not see in the theaters.
X I think it ran here for like a small time, and then
Pearl I just didn't get around to if one of the movies I canmeber one
of the movies was around the time a child was just born, I didn't
get to. But this just made it that I was like, oh,
I actually want to see Maxine in the theaters now, And now I was
like, Okay, we should actually like put this on the schedule and review
because we both talked about ex and Pearl in the Golden Geeks, but we
never reviewed or did them and stuff. So but this shot up again big
time, so I'm hoping I it's more Pearl for me than X. At
the same time, this tone looked completely different than both of those, you
know, like even X and Pearl. I feel like there's like some sort
of line you can draw. This looked like a whole other thing. And
I cannot wait just knock out home trailer or pole trailer. I don't know
why I put Hole save me well, like the actual like aesthetic, I
guess, and like, well, the setting is a big one. Like
it feels a lot different than what X and Pearl had, which I mean
X and Pearl long you're in like the same place technically, just different time
periods, but this one it does feel very different. But I think like
Maxine's personality is still like you can see it in Pearl as well as X.
Well, Maxine in X of her just want to be a star,
and this is like like just going further on that and putting her in an
environment that's surrounded by murder and you know, people trying to get into show
business. And I just really liked the other characters that we have seen.
It's funny how like a twenty four like I used to just see it as
like, like really great content. I love their movies, but it just
it seemed like not necessarily well I guess, sort of lower budget or like
just not like mainstream movies. And now I'm just like seeing this cast list,
I'm like, man, how A four totally like whereout the budget from?
I'm glad you said that because the other ones have like some stars.
But it's like, oh, like Britney Snow like this very big years ago,
right, I still like pretty so, but like it it was like
Hallsy and Michelle Morgan and Kevin Bacon and there's a couple of other people in
there where it's like Carlow, yeah, John carl Like this was like again,
that's where I was getting those Tarantino visors. A good actor upon good
actor, and I'm happy to see John Carlow not playing some sort of just
like villain. It looks like he'll be like a character and someone. Yeah,
and before I forget too, I love that they had the A twenty
four logo, but in like the Hollywood sign. Very cool. I'm excited
to do that show with our GVS logo in the future where we start play
different stuff, you know. Yeah no, so yeah, I really really
love this trailer. I think it's really exciting, you know, like the
dynamic of it's but like, yeah, it's it's totally I think the similarities
to like Once upon Time in Hollywood, where of course there you got like
the Manson family murdering people, and then here you have the Nightstalker, and
yeah, I'm just excited to have the super eccentric character Maxine interacting with all
these other side characters and surrounded by murder. I think it's just a good
recipe for a great time, not for those characters, but for a moviegoer.
And because I I I think I had seen Pearl and X well,
I watched them back in the same sitting, but I think it was like
after Maxine was already announced, so I knew it was a trilogy, but
it would have been really interesting and seeing X and then like, wasn't it
only like like it was less than a year or something when Pearl came out,
right, Like it wasn't very long. Yeah, I think they they
weren't. They're in different calendar years, but I think it was less than
a year, because yeah, I think we had them in different gold geeks.
I think, or I don't think we really had X so much because
I think I think we're in the camp where we've I don't think anyone disliked
X, but I don't think we've we were anyone know any of us were
going to bat for actually Pearl. I think we were all more a bit
more uh uh Jones and on, especially just like Mi a goth really like
like there is characters in that movie, but it's pretty much just her,
like interacting with the world and just being the shining star that she is.
I guess the Shining Pearl, the Shining Pearl anything else and that I should
get to our last trainer keep going Tales of the Empire. So this was
a kind of a shadow drop where the trailer starts and looked like it was
Tales of the Jedi, but then it wasn't. I started showing dark side
stuff and it's so Tails the Empire. So that's all cool. I'm all
for this in theory. I'm not gonna be a picky fan. You know,
enjoy what you want to. But I will say I wonder how Filonian
crew justify these costs to Disney because to me, because I go to Taylor,
I'm like, why would you pick these two characters. Well, he's,
oh, well, it's the Tails the Empire. You gotta pick these
two characters. I wish he was here for this because I would have grilled
them, but I just responded, you can call it anything and just Tails
stiff, Like I I will watch this because I really enjoyed forgive me,
were you on You were on Tails or Tales at Jedi, right, Yeah,
so I really enjoyed that series, so I think the team behind this
will do a similar thing. But I I certainly was and I don't know
how many people were asking for these characters, especially fucking Morgan, Elizabeth or
whatever from like the Mandalorian show, like or or like a Sooka. It's
like, really, this is like out of all the characters have Entails the
Empire. And I get it. They're showing there's an Equisin and they're showing
Darth Vader. But I just feel like in a time right now where X
Men is out and it's killing it. You talked all the time, you
have a show right now called Stars bad Batch, And I apologize to Taylor
because he's reviewing a Star's Alliance, but I don't care. They'd say the
same thing about Marvel movie or show or DC whatever, no one is talking
about bad Batch. Bad Batch may not even exist right now, Like it's
just a not even a blip on the radar. So to me, it's
just like the only people I know watching are Taylor and the Geek, all
the Lions people. I know nobody else even on my timeline with general people.
It's like I know this, I see Pole two and X Men.
This is just like, so, this is the same thing with this show.
It's like I just feel the characters get you in there. And the
last season was or the Jedi was Dooku Ahsoka and and who am I forgetting?
Uh? There was three? I thought, I remember, was it
no because we got Qui Gone Ones, we got maybe it was just a
soca and dude right, and then yeah, I guess just the Qui Gone
like he was probably the Duku Ones because he was an apprentice, remember,
So yeah, so maybe I'm wrong, But either way, it's like Ahsoka,
Okay, I understood, I thought that was a bad choice, but
it's actually a show coming up. They liked the character. But then Duke.
It's like, at least for me, it's like I feel like many
people would want to see that, and there's lots of stuff there. I
will watch this, but for me, these characters were like and I just
in general the animation, I think they're making lots of bad choices right now,
the characters here, the concepts, the characters here, bad batch,
Like, I'm sure they're gonna announce some other fucking show between the Dark Times
where it's like, oh you didn't know this clone that escaped? It's like,
gain is that out of here? So again it's a dark time.
So yeah, I like the idea, not the route they're going, but
I will be there and watch it. No, no, I don't know
for show be on the review, but I'll check it out because there could
be some fun stuff. Yeah, it's I mean, break the fourth wall
here, it's funny. Taylor was supposed to be with us tonight. He's
under the weatherpefully he feels better. But last thing you said before he left
the little pregame room, the little in the green room, while I was
waiting for you, he's like, make sure to defend Tales of the Empire.
And this is before I had seen the trailer or anything. And then
he just bounced and I was like, oh, like I knew about this,
but I'm excited to watch this. And man, I am not the
person to defend this, Taylor, I'm sorry. Like I like the idea
of what it is, especially just telling a story more on like the Dark
Side alignment characters. I'm always for that. I definitely want to see more
Sith stories. I'm a little bit worried Acolyte isn't gonna quite fully satisfy that
itch, but a man can dream. I love this idea though, of
doing like Tales of the Jedi and then the other side of it. I
wish they'd called it Tales of the Sith, just to kind of, you
know, it's not like it's Tales of the Republic and then and then it
shows like the Light Side stuff. But that's why they did so they can
say they can do that. Oh why do you do these shitty characters all?
You know? And they're not shitty. I know people like Barrass and
stuff. I'm not saying that. It's just like for me, it's like
you do like Morgan Elizabeth and then a Darth Maul, or you do Barrass
and then another bigger character like I'm fine that then then if you get a
headliner and then someone that's a bit more on the fringe side, or like
uh uh ah, what am I saying? Click? What's a niche?
Niche? I don't know why I thought you start with a c hey y
yi, It's like yeah, but for so yeah, just just speaking of
the show in general, I like the idea. I I overall did like
the trailer. Even though I didn't really know any of these these characters that
were highlighted here. I assumed that they were from something that was already established,
purely because of the interaction with characters that I recognize of being you know,
relevant, like the inquisitor Chap, the one that was really not intimidating
at all in the Obi Wan show. Yeah, so that character that more
Elizabeth, the one that think quiz or she is like a bigger role she
was in Manalorian, but she's a bigger role on a Soska. So there,
okay, And like I assume that was the case. I I don't
know, like there was a period where I'm like, oh yeah, I'm
excited to catch up on a Soca. Now it's just like so far gone.
It's like I don't know, maybe eventually I'll catch up on that show,
but for for what this is, I'm going to be there for the
review. I I I really liked certain sequences that were shot, mostly just
like focusing the camera on like instead of hearing about the Empire and the Sith
like through certain characters, like actually seeing like certain trials maybe that certain characters
have to go through. Like I love the moment when then the Grand quizzor
guy threw down like the one lightsaber and it's it's like the Dark Knight thing
right, like we're doing tryouts, we only have room for one person,
and I just love that dynamic of the dark Side where it's truly all about
power and like if you're not strong enough to defeat this opponent, why would
we even need you, Like like you're just not even You're not even like
you're not even worthy of being one of our soldiers if you can't take out
like just this person that's like another novice just like you are. So I'm
hoping for a lot more focus on stuff like that as opposed to trying to
shine maybe some relevance on like a like an Ahsoka character or like trying to
grow those characters. I just want insights into what was shown. I don't
think that's gonna be the main focus purely off of what Tales of the Jedi
was. I really liked Tales of Jedi because of the characters that we were
diving into, Like I was just so much more invested in, like the
Doku story, just all that stuff surrounding Doku. So yeah, I don't
know. I'm I'm hoping that this is good enough to enjoy and then maybe
just set us on a on like the next version of it, and maybe
just I don't know, a character that I do know about and who knows,
maybe maybe what will be shown here it'll make me really interested in these
characters and make me kind of want to seek out Ahsoka. I think that's
really should be like their their primary goal of if they want to highlight certain
characters, make them, make them exciting and interesting for someone like me that
hasn't seen these characters before. But I mean there is some obviously big notable
ones. You got the big bad Darth Vader in there, you got you
got Grievous in here, as well as some other inquisitor chaps that even I
recognize. So yeah, I'm hoping it's a well made show bare minimum and
yeah, perfect, I'm glad you've come into the review because in case I
don't want to review this, yeahs there probably will. I like them now,
So all right, last I break, And then we got a couple
of just movie news things. We'll go right back. All right, we
were back, So kurkle, I'm just gonna hit you at this spitfire rapid
fire, not spitfire, that's something else, but I guess I can do
it as spit fire away, all right. Twenty eight days later we got
two updates where happened that where last week? It says that Jody Comer,
if I'm not sure other than free Guy, what else you would have seen
her? And I think there's something I'm forgetting. Definitely i've seen her something
else. Yeah, so you got her. She's rumored a star. The
Chillian Murphy being in it is still like an assumed thing, but it's not
like a confirmed thing, but it's assumed. And then today they announced well
at least deadline, saying so like a Tiars Scooper, that Nata Costa,
who did Candy Man and the Marvels, is going to be directing part two.
So they are doing this full trilogy, which I'm very surprised about.
But they're doing this trilogy. The reason they announced it so early is because
they plan on filming. I don't know if it's a full trilogy, but
least movies one and two back to back, so I think that's at least
good for budgetary things to do. That the John Snow show that was being
made by HBO that's been canceled and they just couldn't find a story, Kid
Harrington says they all agreed on. So you got that. And then there
was in a Monopoly movie announced being produced by Margot Robbie, and then a
Blumhouse or yeah, a Blumhouse Blair Witch movie, no details, prequel,
reboot, whatever. Also, can you quickly rank the trailers that we talk
about? Because I forgot to Maddy. Yeah, question, So I guess
I'll start with that. For the trailers, Yes, I feel like I
need a list in front of me. Just it was Cuckoo, Maxine,
Tales of Empire and Joker, right, was it that? Why did I
keep Joker? Tails of the Empire, Speak No Evil? There's fun and
Speak No Evil? Yeah? Uh, I think we're gonna have the same
ranking here. I bet but I'll start at the bottom. I'll do Speak
no Evil Yep, Tales of the Empire, Yep, Cuckoo Joker. I
guess where we put Maxine in there? Oh, Maxine, it would be
it would be above Cuckoo. I think just for the like the larger scale
of what was shown of again, like all the moving pieces of the different
characters and the locations that we were at, and the whole idea of the
stalker killer, the night killer, whatever it's called. Yeah, that did
get me. I was gonna say, because like Maxine was more fun trailer,
but the bill, like the intrigue of Cook, Like that's definitely more
intriguing to me because that's like, what's going on here. We're Maxine.
It's like not that we don't know, like, oh what's going on,
but it's like, okay, that's zero killer. They're investigating her for them,
like we know we can put those pieces together. But yeah, maybe
I'll still get I'll go I'll go Maxine, Cuckoo Joker, just for that
one show that Lady running, and I really liked how they had in the
trailer. I thought that no music choice. I hope that was like that
too, So that is like, when I see shots like that, it
just terrifies me of like having headphones in if you're like biking or night you
have no idea, man, because my life is over fifty percent of headphones.
You guys know that, Like I always have buds in and oh man,
that's a scary feeling. So yeah, I'm the same, except just
flipping there. So what do you want to talk about her? First?
For the the Jodi Comer thing, I I haven't seen her actually in anything
other than that other apparently she's raised Mother and Star Wars Rise of Skywalker,
which kind of hilarious when I pulled that up there. But hopefully she's back
for the Ray movie. She just has such like a recognizable face that I
feel like I've seen her in more. I know she's going to be in
that The Biker's movie with Austin Butler, so maybe I've seen her in the
trailer or something. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. She's
fantastic and free. Guy. I want to see her in more. But
I saw lots of trailers for that last duel movie too with Ben After That's
the one. Yeah, I never ended up seeing that movie. Was it
good? Great. Yeah, she's fantastic. I think I think it's pretty
good overall, Like I enjoy it. I don't know quite a bit's weird,
Like I feel like not many people have seen it, but I think
I liked it a lot more than other people that did. That's what i'd
say. I know, I just popped my head. When you're saying that
your your sister had like asked you about the Joker, it's is this gonna
be It's gonna be as good? I just picture her reaction to like when
you send her the Adrenochrome trailer, She's like, is this gonna be good?
Oh? My sister was a complete It's funny because I had already planned
this is gonna be No, she's just a sleuth, like you gonna put
me in the other one? You gotta put me in the next one.
I was like, I already have I already had that planned out. Don't
worry about I get the nepotism card. Oh yeah, exactly, nepotism higher.
But I'm gonna kill in the movie, so don't worry. But oh
I am I am? But yeah, no, uh that would be funny.
So so yeah, the John Snow one nope, need a costa.
Well, because you talk about Jody Komer, so I thought you're gonna have
about twenty twenty years Okay, yeah, you know you know John So I
was like, oh so, but no, but the John Snow one.
I'm very much not surprised at all. I feel like I just hadn't heard
anything about that since it was like first kind of murmured about, and I
don't know, like the fire nope, well maybe yeah, pun not intended
initially, but I kind of like the potential pun intended on that. But
the fire is kind of getting cold on the whole Game of Thrones aspect to
it. You got House of the Dragon for sure. The fact that it
is like a major prequel, I do see it separately. So I don't
know. It's just the fact that the show did not end well either,
like it like it doesn't really have me seeking out more of those those stories.
But maybe I'm just not making sense because I also praise about House the
Dragon, how great that is. It could be that right that or it
could have been right it could have been yeah, yeah, no, for
sure, I don't know. I feel like they're just I made this joke
in the discord, but they're just the new Star Wars where they had that
one pilot that they actually filmed with Naomi Watts, and then I, oh,
we're not doing that show, Like they literally film a pilot, just
canceled it. They had this show that I actually was excited for it because
everyone knows me. I'm not the biggest fan of prequels, so it's like,
oh, we're doing a show that set after this year. You're like,
Oh, that's cool, and it's like behind the Wall or wherever,
so it's like you can kind of do whatever. But then it's like,
uh no, because I do think there's probably some feeling of oh, I
don't know if we want to go that way. So that's done, and
they did just green light another spin off. It's like The Night of the
Seven Kingdoms, but who knows that happened, so I don't know if fIF
they're very particular at this So it's one that I could say I'm bummed about
it, but not overly bumbed. It's like, oh, that sucks.
I was looking forward to that, but not like a Oh I really needed
that. You know. It's like, Okay, I won't miss it that
much, but if you would have told me, hey, would you watch
this? Was? Oh yeah, well I would have right, So yeah,
no, absolutely, the Monopoly one with Margot, it's it's it sounded
strange until you said Margo is a part of it, and I'm just like,
man, she did Barbie like. It's kind of funny how she's just
pairing up with these like major products, I guess. And the other one
too. Do you remember she's supposed to be producing that Sims movie or whatever?
Oh yes, I forgot about that. It's I mean, if anyone
can do it, she can do it. She's obviously had a major hand
in the actual production right of of Barbie, not even just starring in it.
But yeah, it's tough because I like the three she's produced is Barbie.
I think I could be wrong with Minions more, but it's Barbie,
Sultburn and promising young woman love all those movies. With all those movies,
I would give a ten at ten to two. You know, was she
not a producer on Birds of Prey maye? Okay, no, actually,
I'll take that back. She might be. I think her production company now
that she has one, she's like with Lucky Chaps. I think you're right
where she was producing or exactly producing, but under her ban and those three.
But yeah, you're right birds of Prey as well, and that's why
so I shouldn't question it. But I just hear and I'm and I hope
she's listening. I'm mister monopoly. I have like I haven't done the years,
but I've done. I have like a sixteen year winning streak going on.
He's very I am very good. I like, oh, yeah,
Lord of the Rings, we gotta play Lord of the Rings monopoly again.
That was hype. And I wasn't even the banker Tato's because you know me,
I said, I want to be the banker because everyone's he was the
banker. You must be the banker. That's how you streak. I don't.
I'm the fucking undertaker of monopoly. I've not lost since I was like
thirteen years old. That's like seventeen years now. It's like and Hanson's are
like, oh, I'm gonna beat you. I thought about the day because
I was planning stuff for the twenty four hour stream and geek first day twenty
four hour stream. I'm gonna be doing a fucking monopoly now. I still
think if I lose. It's a little sus because I don't like the online
boards. There's some trickery there, but still excuse whatever. Well, maybe
Hanson can flyer ass down to Canada. I don't know, but either way,
I'll hit my streak north flyre ass out to Canada. Challenged me.
You know, it was the last time she won a monopoly and probably not
in a while, but that's probably gonna happened. The actual life stream is
some sort of online monopoly thing because I have to defend the record, but
that does not get This doesn't get me jassed. I don't know what it's
gonna be. Maybe it's gonna be like Barbie and maybe some sort of fourth
wallber I don't know, but I just don't This is not when Barbie I
see the vision, Sims. I guess I even see the vision. I
don't see the visional monopoly, but maybe I'm wrong. Come a couple of
years later. So it's tough to like translate that to a movie screen easily.
I feel like actually having a board in the unless they make it like
a fourth Wall breaky types thing, where like the actual characters are like what
the hell is going on? They like break out of the board. But
I don't know, I trust them, you know, like she's she's She's
able to make some really great stuff of Cole. I don't know where else
going with that. The blair Witch, you know, that would be a
big one. Ryan Gosling, I'm gonna go with Stanley Tucci. Stanley Tucci,
he's the radio show host guy in The Hunger Games. Oh that's a
good one. Good and good cast there. Better than the hot Goss that
I pitched. Probably your movie probably makes more money than mine. Yeah,
he would win the what was it? It was? Like the was it
the Critics Choice Awards or the Best Original Song? Yeah? The blair Witch
Blumhouse movie. I don't know. I like, are you done with it?
Like? Is that not something you want to turn back to. I
had a great time the first time that I saw blair Witch, and that's
where my blair Witch peaked or enjoyment peaked for for the blair Witch titles,
because they had sequel I think maybe two sequels. I don't know, but
I think a couple of those those shiit ones. Yeah, did you ever
see the new one? Like the newest one? No? Was it good?
Came out on the ots. Yeah, it was really good. Oh
really it's the original because like I like the original, but it's like once
you've walked to me watched it once, like yeah, he's kind of gone.
It's boring after that. Oh yeah, I remember were you there when
we tried to watch long was that when you had moved? Probably moved we
because Kyle, you know, scary hate scary movies stuff like that. So
we're like, oh, we're gonna watch blair Witch and we all remember being
the scary movie and we watched together. We set up the camera. I
was gonna do everything, and it was so bad. We were like,
we're not even gonna put this episode out. Uh, we're not even gonna
like we we have like a half an hour, like or a half the
movie culture and I just end up turning it all off. And it was
just us sitting there watching blair Witch. Ben cause like this sucks, Like
this isn't scary at all. I'm like, yeah, it's the effects is
gone, but the odds one check it out. I think there's like I
think it's dangerous. I think there's like potential where you can get into the
real lore in the origin. But when you do that that also sets you
up for some really bad like oh, this didn't need to be explained,
et cetera. So I get it. The other thing that makes me worried.
I've said this before. I just don't trust Blumhouse anymore. I haven't
liked what they've put out their last few movies. Like I didn't like Fight
I have Fredday's, I didn't like Night Swim. I didn't like Majory the
like in the Halloween movie. Not that I didn't like, but I was
underwhelmed by them. I just feel like for a while they were a great
horse studio, but now I feel like they're kind of cashing in, and
I feel like this is like another cash in. So well, fuck Speak
to Evil. That was a Blumhouse one, right, And I was not
impressed by that trailer whatsoever? Oh the new one? Yeah that makes sense?
Yeah, what is what they've been putting out? I see the last
thing I loved. I totally agree with you though, that it seemed like
Blumhouse used to like that used to be. I used to get scared when
I would see that, like Banner come up before trailer. It's like,
Fuck, this is gonna be a fucked up movie A twenty four before A
twenty four Yeah right that they were like the Oh they're these cool studio making
stuff. But what did I want to look here? Oh? They made
like the Tooth Fairy at one point. Wow, between the Rock Johnson and
that, Yeah, when he's in the dress and everything like that, hang
on here, I almost got it. Okay, so they made Oh I
haven't seen that, that imaginary movie with the bear. I haven't seen that,
but I've not heard great things. Uh, totally Killer. I did
not like that. I think you liked totally Killer. Taylor liked it.
I never saw it, Okay, Yeah, I don't trust Taylor. The
Exorcist Believer was fine. I don't know what the passenger was in City's Red
Door. I didn't check that out. There's something wrong with the children.
I didn't see that one. Oh sick. I did not. Lots of
people liked as a slasher. I thought it was fine. Megan, I
thought was fine. Nanny soft and quiet, Run Sweetheart, Run, Hollowing
Ends. That's all one title. No, no, no, these are
all different. On the visitor, I don't know what that one. Mister
Hargan's phone's the THEMN Yeah, The Black Phone was like the last one I
think I enjoyed, like like would give it like a seven out of ten.
But honestly, I've not like really liked a movie. There's Oh my
god, since like twenty twenty, which was freaky. That was that movie
with Vince Vaughan and Cathyine Newton when they switched bodies. That's a horror movie.
You never s Yeah, because she switches by Vince vaugh who's a serial
killer. Oh, that'll do it. It's fun. It's a fun little
one. But yeah, it's been like three now four years since there's a
movie I really liked. It's not a great previous track record. So all's
well, droga, No, it's not great. Uh yeah, what about
you talk about Joey Comer? What do you how do you? I never
talked about the twenty yeh. Yeah, we trailed off. We gotta circle
back, lasting to circle back to you then we're done. What do you
feel about that? Because obviously I think you were in my camp, and
I think we both really liked Candy Man, And then Marvel's like, you
know, we enjoyed it, but it's nothing special. But like She's I
think I actually think this is like a smart move for her. She got
lots of praise for a horror movie going back to horror. I liked Candy
Man. I think this is smart budget wise, is a shooting back to
back, and for a director, it's like, well, I liked what
she did a lot with Candy Man. So this at least gives me,
like the first one is Danny Boyle, so the guy that did the first
twenty eight days later and then her so already film one in film two.
I'm happy with both the directors, So that gives me some some hope.
Yeah. Absolutely, And just the fact that like they got too back to
back like that is is exciting that we'll have a kind of continuation or like
a large your story that can kind of be spread out through two different projects.
And I like, I how many movies are there? Is it just
the two twenty eight days twenty eight weeks and there's already be gonna be two
being made back to back. I'm still curious about the pitch. I think
they're smart to do them back to back. I am still wondering why they
feel it has to be a trilogy, Like I'm hoping they showed me that
but hey, we just talked about the the ex trilogy, right and that
ended up like working on our own vaccine. Yeah yeah, so I mean
I I yeah, it's not like the A movie franchise that I am like
super attached to and revisit all the time. But I do have like very
vivid memories the first time I watched that first movie, and I think it's
a definitely freaky world to be jumping back into. So I I'm very much
looking forward to it hopefully. You know, got the old retro leading up
to visit two of me retro perfect man, that's old Killian Murphy. That's
gonna be fantastic. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Anything else to say,
Kirchlin, No, we did it just the two of us. Taylor
didn't think we could do it, and here we are. Yeah, He's
like, it's gonna go downhill if you two do it together. But yeah,
we got that. And then I don't know if there'll be news next
week, off to look at the schedule and see. Oh yeah, I
guess too. If I just got that notification in our disc or that not
that you're gonna be watching it fall it's out now, which is strange yeah,
I have no intention to watch that show at all. I don't think
so, oh really that's the first that's I thought you were a Fall fan.
Yeah, I didn't like the trailer. I don't know. Okay,
I feel like maybe I I you're with that, I was not really interested
in watching it. But to yourself while you're watching joke or maybe probably yeah,
I'm like just having a dance sequence, like, I don't know,
we'll see it's were you is it when you found out it was a binge
that fully kick you out? It doesn't help. I don't know. Maybe
maybe i'll watch like the first little little bit and if I keep going.
But you know, time is a precious commodity that I don't have a lot
of right now. But there you go. So don't I expect Kirking pats
Are on that review, but expect him on the Civil War review, which
will be drapping in the next forty seventy two hours. I'll say, there
you go. Thank you very much for tuning in. When you hear from
us next, not be boring. Bye bye.