Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, this is the X Men retrospective,
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enjoy this episode. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the first ever
recording. We've never done this before. We didn't just screw up and I
record all this. I am the Wolverine tras now I am these cyclops kokampatser
Ooh, I'm the stormy cosmid Wow, change the nicknames on me. Hey,
this is the best time we've ever said said, don't know what you're
talking about. I didn't not record what we did before. Well, lids
and gentleman, if you don't know what this is, this is the excellent
retrospective. We are looking at all the films from X Men, Today's Future
Pass, the other one's Deadpool, Logan, et cetera. We've all reviewed
the past two to three years, so it's not really retrospect. So with
Marvel buy I guess Marvel slash Disney buying X Men and Fantastic Four, Dark
Phoenix is going to be the last X Men movie out of this crop.
So we thought, what a better time to go take a look back,
start from the beginning and go to the very end. And I don't know,
celebrate Dark Phoenix, even though I think that's going to be a trash
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know you cant to this as well? What who wants to start this off?
So this is how we figured out that we were not recording last time
because it's not spoilers. So are wait, no spoilers. This is very
sure you haven't seen this movie. It's a spoiler. Yeah, yeah,
we're not. We're not. We're just gonna talk about it all. So
well, I think do you have a quick summary or inspire man restro I
think we should do that for this Okay, Wow, you guys need to
fill like a minute of air while I've searched the IMDb franksmen. Okay,
So for me going back to watch this movie, it's been a super long
time. Oh, he's just getting his overall. Never mind, I thought
you be like, you know, no, no, no, I'm kind
of just getting a quick a little background really just just to buy a time
history a history lesson. Yeah, Like, I don't think i've seen this
movie in like, I don't know since I was like nine years. I
think it's been over a decade. Yeah, sure, So it was nice
to rewatch that and kind of go over that again with what we were doing
and actually look at it with a different eye and realizing, you know,
it's just a product that's time and you have to look at it not like
all the new movies that we have over you now, you're right, but
you want you want to add to that, Kirkham Uh. Yeah, for
me, like I already said, it's been well over a decade since I've
seen this movie. But this movie, as well as X two, was
one of the first like DVDs my family ever owned, so I watched it
plenty of times so it felt like I hadn't seen or sorry, it felt
like I just watched it, but like it's still been well over a decade.
So there's a lot of like cringey things that kind of happened that I
kind of forgot about. But overall, I'm not gonna lie. I kind
of think that this movie holds up for me. I had a lot of
fun with it, and I'm excited to go to the the weeds. Okay,
so you guys know, I watched this ship all the time, so
I saw Goyne be like last years, but I mean I've never did so
I'm excited to talk about. So here you go. Here you go,
Kyle. In a world where both mutants and humans for each other, Marie,
better known as Rogue, run away from her home and hitches a ride
with another mutant knows logan Ak Wolverine professor Charles Xavier, who owns a school
for Young Moon's mutants, and Storm and our cyclops to bring them back before
it is too late. Doesn't say too late for one Magneto, who believes
a war is approaching, has an evil plan of mind and needs Young Rogue
to help them. So just full on IMDb full and just spoils the big
i'd say plot twist of the movie. So that's cool. So if if
you haven't seen it, then there you go. I like has that you've
never seen? Because we're gonna talk about this, where do we want to
start? So, like you're kurtin, you gave the impression that you liked
Kyle, I don't understand from what you said if you liked or did not,
Like you just said you wanted to watch for things that come from like
age, like cheese, not like a fine line where it gets better.
It's like, I think I think I liked it. I think I still
I didn't think it was like an awful movie, but I think I just
accepted it for what it was at the time, and like I can't really
compare it. I don't think it's very compared to all the newer movies that
are out now that's doing something different, and I think in the time it
was good. So yeah, that's really what I got for that m Yeah,
I still Unscarbon, do you want to add more? Because I know
he said you liked it, I kind of just button in front, you
know, Yeah, I like this movie. I still defend a lot.
I think for me that I think it's kind of Kyle's touching upon lots of
people do bring it up. Now I'm just think, oh, it's not
a good movie. But I think it's just because, yeah, look at
when the Time came out. I do understand for some fans, especially in
this first one, like they take a lot of pop shots at comic books,
Like they were making fun of the names and making fun of the costumes
and stuff a lot of like, yeah, I was laughing at the usage
of the little code name's, like when he kept calling them cyclops. I
thought it was just hilarious like a certain times because I would they be like,
called of Scott and then he'd be like, sydeclops. You got the
shot like all you Wheels by my fair Line movie. Yeah, and that
was apple by the way you drop it made that up on the spots and
there you go. The line was originally the line was originally what do I
call you baldy? And is a lot better better? So I think for
yeah, the time, this was one of the bigger comic book movies that
came out. This was one of the first Marvel ones I saw with Kirklan
before. But you have stuff like Blade and find of Sure, but those
didn't those were as big as the mainstream as this inspirement were. Back to
back. I think, yeah, it is kind of muted down, but
it had to be. I think if like stuff like in Findy War or
Avengers would have came out in the two thousands, I don't think they would
have been a big hit because they weren't accessible to the mainstream, right.
You kind of had to eat them. And that's why they have like these
like matrix leather suits like and I understand that white people are excide that they're
gonna be in the MCU because we'll get like those actual big costumes and yell
outfits and blue beds like. I think in this time people would have just
laughed at it, and I don't don't think it would have worked. And
I think that's why they play down on the comic book stuff because it was
an adaptation. You had to do that, you know, back in the
day. It's good for Spider Man. I came out, but with Spider
Man, it was like, I don't know how you would have done that
caution, right, You kind of had to go all full tilt there,
you know, so like a like a like a matrix like rope, like
leather jacket. I think, like everyone knows who Spider Man is and can
accept it and just like really roll with it instead of like X Men,
when like I think, this is the first time that I actually really knew
who these people were is from this movie. So like, as someone who
hasn't been really involved with the comic books, like at the beginning, like
you wouldn't really know, so it's kind of like a nice like step to
get into it. Yeah, I would say at the time, especially like
the original like Wolverine, if it were like he's just he's got like that
mask on, if like if you threw that on Hugh Jackman too early two
thousands. Oh yeah, well, and that's why I want to start,
because honestly it's just the beginning of the movie. But the first one I
had was I really liked the openings of one. How do you guys feel
about you got the menu open? Then you also have the rogue opening?
How do you feel about those two? Uh? First saw I have a
question for the go ahead? Was that like Walter White's son from Breaking Bad,
that actor I forget his name, a special needs one you know,
there's no way. I know it looks so similar though, pull up,
pull it up, pull up, it looks so similar. I'm like,
there's no way I could be of unless you just it's not him. There's
definitely no He's playing like a lot of fourteen fifty and old the breaking that
happen, what happens in like what two thousand strange things have happened. That's
all. I'm all right, thanks for answering. Yeah, it's not it's
definitely not him. I travel up, But yeah, what do you think
about I think it's like we're talking about stablishing powers right away. It's like,
I think it it's a weird structure to do the two things back to
like it's it's just like many origin there many organs and then jumps in the
plot. But I think it does a good job at least established and that
two of the main characters like what their powers are and kind of making them
scary. Right, So can you give a I don't even remember the magnet
to open all costs opening? Yeah, all right, yeah, kirst opening.
Did they redo that scene in a later I thought it looked a little
too familiar. Uh No, I like that one. It gives just like
just a quick little like reasoning why Magneto hates humans so much, right,
like obviously all that evil that went on the Holocaust and then geared towards like
him getting broken up from his family. So I like that one. The
rogue one, I remember when I was little, and like, I don't
know if I just didn't understand Rogue's powers, but I did not understand that
scene whatsoever. I thought the mutant was the other guy I was anyways,
So watching it as like an adult now, it's like you kind of actually
grasp what's going on. But uh, the rogue one, I don't know.
It's I know, I know what Kirkla means now che the sky and
he does look quite a bit of light. I didn't believe for me over
because I want the gear, but he does kind of Yeah, it's not
him, but it does look like it's kind of it's kind of clothing.
They could be run at all, actually not at all, really like it
does look like the kid, yeah, like he tries. Yeah, so
so he thought the guy was a mute when you were younger. Yeah,
but I mean, I guess you don't kiss girls. What happened to you,
it's definitely not as memorable as the Magneial one for me. Yeah,
but I don't know, it shows up like she's a big point of this
movie. It's like those main objectives together we look at Yeah, yeah,
spoiler alert, I guess I ended year he did that. But yeah,
I don't know. I just took a lot more from the Magneto one as
opposed to Rouging. For myself, I thought it was kind of like a
weird transition where it's like a big, big break of not a big break.
It's like, Okay, we just had one kind of the story opening
and then up to the next story origin. They didn't really flow, but
I guess I see what they're trying to do. Yeah, but I don't
know how you would make that flow anyways. Yeah. Yeah. The one
thing I like about them both is that they kind of make both them Munits
seem scary and whatnot because and abviously, like when we're talking about like the
retrospective, we're kind of looking at the past. We talk about like stuff
in the future. That's what I think I hope with the MCU, that's
what they nail is they got to make these people scary. You know,
like you look at Iron Man Camp, like all these characters have reasons they
got their power and it's like, oh, you know, they're smarter or
a science experiment, But these are people that are born with these powers.
And I do like when her family comes up and they're just like freaking out
at her and she's freaking out, like, I hope, I don't know
because they haven't really tackled I think, like super scary stuff for the MCU.
But I do like that that they feel they do try their best and
they think they chieve for the most part. To make them freaks, I
think things like Toad, like he looks all right, he's just a dude
with green hair. They made him seem pretty strong. Wait until we get
it he destroys the anc. Yeah, but that's the thing I did like.
I like the Holocaust open, and I think when I like both moments,
just that you feel like everyone's scared of these people, you know,
and you can see why we get to Jean Gray talking to everybody. Why
they want them to be locked up or they're scared of them and they don't
want them to be in the general public. So I hope we get that
in the future. You know, I just don't know what Disney if they
want to make them like, because you got to make that difference, right
of like why when people love Captain America but not like Jean Gray. You
know, yeah, I think that is a very fair point because I find
like all the newer Marvel movies that come out, like you're pretty excited to
like watch them, and they're helping people or kind of like we talked about
this on an earlier cast with the back of the New Batman like kind of
horror film, and then like classic bat or It's not Batman, the new
Superman horror film, and then oh the Bright oh yeah yeah, and then
the and just classic Superman where you used to see him like helping people,
but at the end of the day, like he's scary, like you don't
know what he's doing. And I think this movie really hits that home to
make sure, like, man, these people are completely different from who you
are, and you know what, like she see it from both sides where
it's okay to be like kind of uneasy, but then you know, I
think at one point Storm says like, well, I'm afraid of you guys
as well too. Yeah, I don't know what you're going to do,
and it's more of like kind of a nice understanding. But it's a bit
of a small theme that they had going on, which I quite enjoyed.
Yeah, and I think that they like also established that in like rogues case,
these people don't even know like what they are capable of. E they're
they're kind of scared themselves because you know, Rogue was just had a cute
boy room. She wasn't expecting to put this motherfucker in a goma, poor
guy. But yeah, I feel like I guess it's don't don't really understand
Rogue's power. So she gets you guys like obviously, like someone touches her,
she like gains their power. She said, well, I think,
yeah, I think with this regular person, she just absorbs their life.
Where so it's like putting in a good men toast and just you know,
like you know, in your even you had like some gross I hang on
when you have gross, when you've had a bunch of gross endings for dinner,
and you get like a mint or something, and just her mouth feels
so refresh. That's what it feels like. It's for her when she touches
someone and she just feels so like sprung. I'm just joking. That's not
what happens. The whole situation is like stop, no, I think that
it's I think it's weird. It's weird when you get into the human side,
because it's funny the comic books, which they can actually do. The
MCU Roe learns how to fly because at one point she has to touch Captain
Marvel to like stave or something like that, and she takes some of her
powers and she's able to fly. So that's how I'm the comic. So
I've been the MCU. There's a good chance that's gonna happens. That's cool.
So I think with the powers, it's she gains control them for a
little portion that she gets like with Wolverine when he was like about when she
was nine, got a stealing powers, right. I think with with the
humans, I don't really know. I think it's just that they almost have
no mute genes, which just kind of hurts them instead of helping her,
right, because I don't know if it makes her stronger anything, because she's
not like getting younger. She's not like you know, she's not like,
oh I can spread that ventos well, yeah, exactly. So I think
it's just that it kind of some happy. I think it just attracts from
their life. But I think it's more just for mutants, like it's it's
it's for that. With humans, it just hurts some unfortunately, you know.
Yeah, yeah, that's all I really have to say from the beginning.
Well, then we go right into the so that scene transitions into Gene.
She's at the meeting and whatnot, which I've always been wondering if they
fully know how powerful Gene is in that scene, just because like is she
a mute? Do they know that they know she's just like a mutant like
like sympathized or like helping them along, because I don't think they know.
They think they just she's just like some sports folks person who's like, oh,
you know, they're just trying to do good, like they're normal people,
and like it almost seems like she's trying to like hide away the fact
that she's also a mutant as well too, which is like I think you
would have to do that, yeah, try to convince people. Yeah yeah.
Oh and then anyways, so yeah, she's talking about the government wants
to put in this law where they can have to render as in Mune and
then you got which I think is the great scene of Charles mayneal they're both
separately watching and then like great Hallway scene. I think that just established everything
you need to know between those two and like their ideologies, and I think
it's really good those two are being currently talking about before casts. They're just
perfectly cast, and I guess when we start getting characters we can talk about
them. I think we'll obviously see them with many other movies, but they
just kind of put the everyone talks about, like what's gonna happen when they
recast Jackman. We got a lot toy with Fastbar macavoy, but that same
thing with Marvel at MCU. It's gonna be interesting what they do with those
characters, because these two are great in these roles. They both hit them
so perfectly, and it's it's tough to like get up. There's many other
great actors out there, not saying that, but I think the scene you
get to see them both well do well. But I think it just establishes
them really good. As far as it's it's very mind and we get more
of it as a movie goes on. But it's It's probably one of my
favorite scenes from this movie, you know. So yeah, I also like,
even just before that, I just love that whole scene when Jeans in
the middle surrounded by all the senators, She's just dressed and all Red.
I forget the act's name, but I fam Congensen. I love her as
Jean Gray in like the og X Men. She was the one of my
favorite characters. So I don't know, I just even like visually it just
it looks so nic because like you have all like the classic stereotypical like senators
just like all in their black suits, like a white white male, and
you just got Gene in the middle with like all Red just got a red
hair. Just like visually, it just looked awesome. And then yeah,
it just gives you a little insight of the politics of the whole human slash
mutants of like I don't know, you just have to register to I don't
know, just to live. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think he
just kicks off the theme. I wasn't gonna ask you guys, because I
feel like, so in this situation, have Magneto is like a Holocaust survivor,
and then it kind of fits. I feel like with the MCU,
what do they do now with Charles and especially Magnio, who if you do
a Holocaust survivor now, the age is not really gonna line up. You'd
need a Magneto in his nineties, and I don't think they're gonna do that.
Are you saying how they would show his origin? Like? Well,
yeah, because the comics has always been the Holocaust. But I feel like
now in the MCU, when they bring a minute's gonna have to be something
different, right, because that's so. But do they have to touch even
on his origin or just like this character's around. I think they will because
if he is being needle, they're gonna explain why is he against humans?
Right? And that always comes to well they, you know, divide us.
I've had this theory for a little bit that I feel like the comic
book community needs to prepare itself. I think both Charles Magneto, I think
they're gonna be black in my opinion, and I think they're gonna maybe base
it around like the Malcolm X, like Martin Luther King story of Eric and
it's more current, so I could see that. But other than that,
I just don't know, And I'm not great with like the events of history
in Canada, let alone America. So that's I was wondering what they're gonna
do when they get that, unless there's just some funky time travel and yeah,
Fan, I'll did some ship and I'm like, oh, he brought
some feel for the hull calf costs. Someone happened to be Kyle's brain's move
and you're trying to think of something, trying to think. I was like,
no, like that, or maybe they just make up situation that happened
in that world that's similar to the Holocaust, but maybe they fetched the numbers
or that's quite possible. Yeah, I think that'd probably be the better way
maybe to go about it than to actually use a historical event. But that's
what they did for my meal, right, And I think that does help
for his character because you had that time, like he survived the Holocaust,
one of the worst events ever, so you could see him not wanting that
to happen, right where. That's so and that's where maybe if it's Disney,
but with it, if it's something made up, it does it was
that effect a little bit, right, because it didn't affect us at all.
We oh, it's just some some fanals thing or something something that happened,
see you you know with the socoviaccords. You know, Yeah, it's
something I don't really think about it something about because it's upon her it now.
Yeah, And so it just racked my mind. How they're gonna introduce
him and if they're gonna beyond their old I just don't know. Sure they're
gonna go, and I'm very excited for that. It's gonna be a little
wise way. But then we introduce the Rowe. She's backpacking it up.
You know, she's going across Canada. Where was she originally because I feel
like she was in like a salary country, other sub state, Yeah,
southern country. That's where Mangie's coming from. So she I mean, I
don't know if she was actually in the southern state. I figured she was
kind of most southern. So that's just so it is. It is down
there. It's to northern Alberta's Maridon, Mississippi. That would make sense,
the sixth largest city in Mississippi. So there you go. So that's where
Rogue is from this movie. And she's looking for lost in town and there's
just awesome town, just this little butt fucking nowhere in Canada. It looks
like a town that I've been to, honestly for like a hockey turn or
something just like covered in snow, just frozen. There's a little tin shack
in the middle and definitely would never be in like a wrestling ring or there's
like a bare knuckle box and going you'd be surprised, man, you know,
I've seen that stuff in Rottland all the time. How do you think
I made my living for a while? And then yeah, it's underground Rotland.
First, real Bob Rottland fight Club is there's no Roland fight Club.
And then she's going to the bar. Actually it's very seedy place. You
know, I'm not looking too good. Lots of bad people. And then
she's he's this guy and this young dashing man in the cage and it's the
wolverine. One I want to make one show is the announcer. I really
like that actor because he's from a few episodes Are You for the Dark?
So I just want to shut that out. Actually not so no, it's
just a tryst on that show. But and then we get into introduce the
wolverine. Uh, there's the guys really jacked to fight him when he's asking
to to fight, He's like, oh, finally he gets right up and
he goes there, and then Wolverine just don't hit him in the nuts.
It's okay, I just got it. I was expecting him to get the
nuts. He didn't actually do it. I think he did, yeah,
when he was down, and then when he's down and then went to kick
him in the stomach. I think it was like imply that I can't show
that PG. Thirteen movie No Nuts shot so well pre too, like early
two thousands, so they didn't get away with too much. Yeah, so
what do you guys think about this whole step? You got Rogue in there,
you got Wolverine in the step, So first of all the step before
we get in the what do you think about the whole Wolverine fighting underground that
you guys can talk about if hephe about Rogue or Wolverine in general. I
think it's fine. I actually liked Wolverine in this, like underground fighting and
kind of looking like a drunk while being being a drunk. Definitely he's drinking
and smoking. The cigar fight not great cardio, but yeah, but like
I think it just proves like, Okay, this is like a burly man
who doesn't really care about anything, and it's just like doing something for the
sake of doing it. So I think it was getting some cash, like
can sit down in town. Yeah, sets the tone of thought him actually
happy to say anything, so he kind of just had an idea what he's
about. And then it's kind of weird that Rope kind of comes into this
like underground fight place. And I don't think she knew that, right.
I don't know why she's looking for. That's what I was just gonna ask.
Maybe it's just she was looking for a small town Canada. That's well,
No, remember she did say that's why, because remember her the boyfriend
at the beginning, she has this whole map of places she wants to see.
I don't know why she wants to see loss In, but maybe it's
just like there's some importance to her. It's just something she wants to do.
So she did. They did set that up, So I think it
was just probably that happened her parents redoubting Wan or so what she gon knew
she's gonna travel her original plan was, but she just has a lot less
money now to do it. Yeah, so that's why she's in lawson.
Yeah, okay, Kirklin, you like this sound. Yeah, it didn't
like stick with me or anything, but it wasn't like triggered by it by
any means Wolverine or logan in generals, seeing that I need be triggered by
it just has to be like you're you're you're asking for my tape and I'm
not on either side of the spectrum. I'm just kind of right now.
But uh no, like it fits his character of just like he doesn't have
his roots tied anywhere really, just I don't know, kind of not necessarily
looking for a purpose in life, but just doesn't know what else to do.
So let's just drink and by time, right, you need you need
money to buy food and alcohol, so I might as well just do what
you're good at and just kick the ship out of some Canadians. So honestly,
I really like it. So honestly, we're gonna talk about him a
lot. But how do you guys feel about Hugh Jackman in his first time
as Wolverine. It's obviously their debut, the first thing I just asked for
me just uh, it's so funny, see where he's come from. Logan
and then the Wolverine to now or one, he looks like younger of a
man? Is he's skinny in this movie? Like he's still like in good
shape. Like I'm not saying that, it's just like, you know,
he's toned, he's tone, but like in this like or yeah, now
he's kind of like this is just like just very tone, very no uh
like mad. Yeah, yeah, he's been traveling a lot. But what
do you guys think of Hugh jack Nibrawler. First, it's funny that you
mentioned like how we've seen him in Logan because like as soon as I saw
him, that's just the first thing I like you think of is just like
where he is now or I guess where he was and Logan, it's just
like just the the journey that that guy went on, like in that role,
it's just crazy. So seeing him now, like looking back on it,
it's pretty crazy just because like I don't know, when you watch that
back in two thousand, you don't expect him to be in that role for
like over a decade, right, Ye, yeah he's at almost two decades
sou But yeah, I know, I definitely notice he's a lot smaller,
a lot Scrennier. Uh, I loved his like mutton chops. He just
looks like a like a wolverine, right, and then they kind of added
those spikes to was that just like a throw to like the original? Yeah?
Yes, hair because funny enough. Kevin Faggy was when the producers on
this movie, this was that day, and he was like yeah, he
was also the daredel. He did a few like Figgy like some people,
I don't know, he didn't just start with the MCU he cuts his teeth
and I think that's why the MC works well because he worked on a bunch
of other comic book films before that. I think he kind of got to
see like what worked and what didn't do because but it was his idea of
the hair because they weren't going to do things while he got to do the
hair. So classic Figgy, you know, coming in. But yeah,
I think that's supposed to be a shot to because it's caution als. He
has like the eyelids that go up. So I think that's the best you're
gonna get us on hair. And it's a nice looking wig or pompador whatever
it is, because it's definitely I was real hair it's it's very tough of
someone that legitimately used to do that. Look, Kyle remembers that point in
my life. At some point I did grow up my hair and I did
like that. So true. It was this, It was a getting pictures.
It was a big fifty to fifty people either loved or hated. I
mentioned Caliger on the hated side. I think so because I've forgotten about it.
Yeah, able to hate it. I couldn't do that now. I
couldn't even couldn't even try, so I don't think he could grow it.
That's I tried the beer this year and it's gone now is and see sim
clearly it was not that successful and so cool? Uh are we talking about
the chemistry between well Coylen, you'll talk about you drag me bastard or myself.
Actually you did. You did your two points. I didn't talk about
him as an actor or something. Well, I think he's a great actor.
No, it was cool to see him being young again, like like
you're used to him when he's his age now and kind of go back there,
and I kind of forgot how fast he regions as well. Oh yeah,
yeah, I was like oh right, like after this watching Logan like
low yas for like days to begin, this is like OL a couple of
seconds then Yeah, so that was kind of cool, and just to see
it, I feel like he really owned that role right off the hawk too,
Like it's not like he had some time to settle in. You just
did it. I really enjoyed just watching him from the beginning. So I
don't really have much to say. I think he Japman, really did a
good job. Yeah, I think he nails him for the most part.
I always give him a bit more credit because I have some trivia at the
end. I always do. But he actually for some reasons he'll get into.
He started he got this roll three weeks in the filming because they had
another person supposed to be Wolverine and he had to drop out like last minute,
so the movie was already shooting, and then they cast him, and
then so throughout the production too, he was like constantly working out. So
that's why sometimes you can see like he feels like he looks a little bigger
than he does. So it's pretty good for concerning you already, Like it
was really rush to get him in there. I think he's really good.
I think it's the equivalent to me of kind of Chris Evans and Thor or
Chris Hemsworth or Chris Evans and Captain America or Chris Hemsworth and Thor where I
think he's better than those. I think there's a little bit missing. I
think X to the next one and we really feel like that's Wolverine. I
think just because I think maybe if we spend more time with the character too,
because it's a long introduction in the world. So I think he is
good, but I don't think we get even though he's like the main character,
enough time to fully fall. I love him in this role, but
I feel like he obviously does get better and better. But I like the
next one's when like all that's boiling Wolverine, where this feels like he's still
for me, just figuring out a little bit, you know. So I
think he's good. I think he's one of my favorite performances all time as
Wolverine Logan was fantastic, So I'm excited to watch he's again and talk about
them. When you guys feel abou Rogue, obviously she goes to do a
lot in this way. What do you just feel about her in general?
Kyle. That's not like he has the most pleasant look on his face.
I don't know. I feel okay, her kid actors are kind of hard
sometimes, but she was known for Academy Award when she was like ten,
you know, oh good for her kids schools. I don't know. I
just have I guess like now, like way back and back in the day,
I would have been like, oh, yeah, this is cool.
But now I look at it, I'm like, I'm kind of over it.
But that's funny that you mentioned that, because I what do you mean?
What do you mean you're over I kind of just don't like I get
you know, as a kid, like you grew up and thinking oh I
could be like that, that would be so cool, And now I'm like,
I look back, so this is I don't I don't know how to
el how to explain this character. I don't know what you're talking about.
Are you talking about Are you talking about like her in general or like you
as I think I'm talking about me in general. If I was a kid
back in the day and like looking at her in that role, I'd be
like, oh, I want to be like her because I want to have
like those powers. I think that would be really cool. Why you don't
even know what her powers were. I don't even know what the power was,
but like I would want that because it would be sweet. Because I
apologize, I did not know that's what you're like, that's not I never
looked at Rogue and it was like, that's the powers. I don't want
anyone any like any of the kids. It's just like herd Like I guess
for me, I'm looking at movies because I want to relate to the character
and I don't. I can't. I definitely felt that way when I was
younger. That's I think that's my issue, not my issue. I'm not
saying it's a bad thing. It's just for me. It's hard for me
to get into the character because, first of all, I feel like she's
like probably past graduation. I was gonna say, I don't feel like she's
a child. I don't feel like she's a child act and I feel like
I don't think her relating her is supposed to be. It's a kid.
I think you're supposed to relate to her. What would you do, Kyle,
if you could no longer touch anybody you know, Like, what would
you like? How would you live that life, you'd be and if you're
constantly and I's gonna touch you, like if you trip or fall, Like
I'm not even making an indo anyway, just like in general, right,
and you still don't even know what Like you said, you don't know what
these powers do. She probably doesn't know what these powers do. You know.
I think that's what you're supposed to relate to. She's lost and she's
known to do. Her parents have ejected her. And the actress was fine.
She was better with Huge, That's the truth. I think, Oh
no, she was. She like she was fine. I was just like
for me, there was not much like I could understand, like she's trying
to do this, But I feel like every time she was with Hugh Jackman,
he really brought her out, like the best out of her. That's
not the character glowing on to the you're trying to say. You're trying to
say, other than if she's with Logan, you don't really care about her.
Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat. I remember
did a nice one when we started. I really yeah. I remember when
I was younger and I said, like that character and I don't know,
I don't know, I just thought that she was like kind of like,
I mean, she is kind of the center point in this movie, but
I felt like she was just more of an interesting character than what I feel
now. I feel. I agree with Kyle how she's definitely like lifted by
being on screen with Logan because they they you have some good chemistry in there
by, Yeah, exactly. So it's kind of interesting like transition too,
because like Logan is just he's just this barfighter going like to town to town,
just beating up dudes, and he just like totally adopts this character and
like he like truly like loves her. By the end of it. It's
just like, like, you know, I'm not gonna let anything happen to
you throughout this movie. It's just like I don't know, it kind of
happened pretty quick, and I think a lot. That's one of my things.
I guess the name the same. Overall, I feel that I won't
get into this move's on hour and forty which is so rare for like a
common movie is nowadays it's our and forty four man's But man, so much
happens in this movie. It's ridiculous, Like I when we get through some
of these events, but it's just that they do form on really quickly.
But I guess it's just because they're supposed to be, Like they're both lost,
right, they nowhere to go, And that's one of the things I
do. And I think some people it's I think it's a minority. But
one of our Twitter followers and he donated to our our stream last year the
past few years, he's a big time he jackman hatter for Wolverine, but
he just feels he's not a fan of how emotional the character is. I
like this. To me, I've always viewed Wolverine as a tortured soul.
I don't hope he is just a badass, because to me, if he's
just a badass, that's boring. That's why I like that he always he
is that bad as us, and he's always trying to portray and push people
away. But for some reason, like this girl is just like he's gleaned
on too, whether he's a part of himself, whether he just wants to
help her out. But I've always liked that that he has he does take
her under his wing, and I like the back and forth they had in
this movie of like when she tries to run, he goes after, and
then when he's leading the end, he's like, she's like, oh,
you're running again, Like yeah, I really like that and it helps.
I also have a younger sister too, so I think that like that if
you have a set, that's why I work more. Yeah, but you
don't like your sister alone only when she's hanging with you. Correct it might
be by herself, no boys, but but yeah, I like that.
So I think Jackman does that really well. Tongue that line up being comedic,
a badass, but also like that it's kind of like tragic soul,
right, and I think we get that more, but in this movie it's
just kind of hint to that. So yeah, well yeah, but like
going back to what I was talking about Rogue, it's just like I felt
like when she was on the screen, not not necessarily just like alone,
like maybe if she's with Megnio, if she's with like the other X men
like back at the house, I just felt like it was just like like
give me, like give me an ex scene or something like that. I
don't know, I didn't you kind of feel for her because obviously it's a
pretty shitty situation to be in, like you literally can't touch anyone, like
you can't have another kiss or anything like that, right, But I don't
know, Like I did really like the chemistry between her and Logan, like
you mentioned, it's just like, oh, you're running, or like like
when he said to her and then at the end she brings it right back
on him. So I did like that, But I don't know. I
like a little hair change. I thought it was a little like now it's
like a little dated and cheesy, like the way it happened. I don't
know, it just just yeah, I thought it was a little funny anymore.
I remember being younger. It's just like, man, it's so cool
how her hair changed like that too. Rogue. Yeah, okay, because
that's what I want to jump forward. So awesome because what happens is they're
all on the road. I got some notes. When they're on the road,
that's when the Sabertooth comes and then storm cyclops. And the reason everyone
really fast is because I feel like another confidence movie, and I think it's
one hundred percent is I feel like other than Logan, you get that little
bal robe. But like Kirkle was saying with Rogan, or with Rogan.
With Rogan, you don't like care as much when she's by herself. I
feel that's kind of the way with all the X Men, And that's one
thing where it's never affected me, because Wolverine's my favorite X Men. And
it's not just because this movie. I have a big fan of Columns.
The nineteen nine Janis series is a classic. But I can't understand if Cyclops
is your favorite, Storm is your favorite this and that's why I lost the
franchise, which we'll talk about. I sure. I gotta interject though,
because I feel like when I was younger, just Cyclops, like Vizor alone,
he was just like my favorite character. No that's not, but I'm
saying if he was your favorite, I feel like most of the X Men
in this movie, unless you're Magneto, Charles Logan in a little bit of
Rogue, and I think Rogue gets rejectedly around. I think they're just kind
of there. She's she's interesting, A lot of mystery around her. Is
there though in this movie or is it just what we're coming? Jack can
read off the hop he falls in love with his chair tops like five lines.
I get tired up until man, Oh yeah, it's kind of that's
the fast. But what I feel like, maybe other than Jane being as
having like we know her pairs Tealgany's in, she's pretty much just a love
object for Logan, right, Like what else is to her character? There's
nothing for her or Spot or Storm, Like they do nothing in this movie.
I was gonna say, maybe I'm just thinking about like the later movies
when they kind of go deeper into her character. Maybe I'm just a little
none of those memories those yeah, those movies. But in this movie,
I feel like all the X Men, it's definitely in the franchise, best
definite, the Wolverine Show, it's all about him. The other ax Men
are just kind of there. And the thing is like it's weird because,
like you said, we've got the other movies and we know these characters.
But I'm trying to think about if I was at this age and I saw
this movie at that time, I just feel like we would dang it so
much for like I know nothing about really I know, like what do we
know about Storm in this movie? For me, I remember watching this when
the Pirds came out, like like because my dad read like the original comics
and stuff. So he was telling me all these characters are so it's like,
I don't know, you just hear these cool names. It's just like,
oh, I'm sweet as storm. Can you make storms on? Well
when they're at the trailer or whatever or the camper and uh, sorry,
I'm getting a little too excited. Get riled up? Was a part?
Was there a spike in your headphones too? Yeah? Okay, no,
did you turn I think you turned them up accidentally? Which way did you
grow? No, that's up the way you just went turning my ways.
That's o. No, I just turned the other way. Hello. It
was so sorry for these folks. No way, they won't see this on
the edit out better. Yeah, well that's over on line. Yeah no,
if there was like a big spike at the beginning, I was just
turning him down just a little. But he is there because sometimes you're talking
way up here and then yeah, I know, so that's better. Now
you're close yeah yeah, and then you're gonna be well, you're gonna be
see eye spiker because I was too close, right. Yeah. You gotta
find the right medium, but it does this, yeah, yeah, along
with my head I'll just like look it up, just like when you're when
you're not doing but yeah, but it doesn't can you nut hear it?
If you're like over here, I'll still talk to the mic there fair enough,
I'll just okay, that works cool, all right, we get to
jump back in. We're good. Yeah, yeah, I was this good
thing. I'll be alive. You know. That's a beautiful thing. I
was gonna mention the camper scene when like the X Men show up and uh,
it's such like a cheesy sequence of events when they get Cyclops to uh
he like uses his laser beam to like the uh he cuts the seatbelt and
then Storm just like pops her head in, grabs grabs roke. And the
only thing I'll say about like, could she just like put the fire out
like with her powers? But she said that they had to get like cyclothed
to like do the precision cut off really good. Yeah, so I don't
know. I since we were done on Storm, it just popped into my
mind. I had to bring it up. I actually thought the exact same
thing when I was watching. It's like, oh, she's just gonna eat,
like she put her hand in like put out the fire and like nope,
so it's like, gets Scott in there, do a precision cut,
and then and then instead of just getting Scott to help her out, he
moves back out. They do like a substitution. Storm jumps in there,
reaches in, gets roked. Yeah. I think for the most part in
this myth, don't think the action's back brand, and that's the thing that
suffers. I think there's one good scene at the end when the steaking will
worringe. I think that's really well done. But and then't like when the
camper blew up, because that's like the classic two thousands action pack, like
flames blowing up. No, And I hate that. I it's still on
the note. I guess some people might like it, but I hate when
she's like, you should put on your seatbelts. I don't tell you what
to do, and then running when he says that, and he goes flying
out like a tailor and t mother's lost car banded, Like he just goes
flying. I think that's I like the reveal also, we've kind of seen
it, but I liked the reveal of him healing when he gets up and
she's just like, are you okay, and just like you can slowly see
it. Oh that's so great. Sometimes Actually a CGI wasn't that bad.
I thought it was pretty dated. I think obviously it's dated, but for
the time, like, it's not I hate that bad. I see what
you're saying. Yeah, I think him healing was. Finally, there's other
ones that I said. The skirtin before where it's like at the end fight
with saber Tooth or No One, he's in the big spinning dome is like
claws to get twisted. When he is in the en fight with saber Tooth
and they do that thing where Save throws him and he goes around the section.
He's like turns into complete like PS two character. Just yeah. So
actually made a note of that because I'll want to bring that out. Yeah,
so I'll also get put into the mansion. What do you guys fee
about that? Because were talking about what do you guys feel about X Men
and Jones? To me, I said, I feel like they're all kind
of generic. I like that actress that does Jean Gray. I think her
and Hugh Jackman actually do have good chemistry. I really like Cyclops as a
character. Some people kind of bang on him, but I think he's like
a Superman cap character where he's like the moral compass, but in this and
the rest of franchise, he just gets done dirt. He's supposed to be
the leader of this team and he share does not feel like yeah, and
to me you cannot like you can tell telling Barry, but I mean,
like her star power, this could have been the anybody because it's just like
she's I feel barely in in this at all. You know, she's just
kind of around like it's and she's doing this accent that she drops for every
other movie after this. But yeah, I think, uh, Magneto and
Charles and whatnot, I'm all Logan or good, but I think the rest
next Moner is just kind of there, you know, there some cool powers.
We'll get to her, but I think I love her, yeah,
like a yeah, uh yeah. I there's not much more to say about
them, Like you said, they're kind of just there the Phillip gaps,
you know, throw some cool superheroes in the mix. Uh. Scott,
like I already said, I always liked him just because of his visor,
but like, I don't know, he's some kind of some funny like back
and forth with Logan is just like, yes, dayway from my girl,
and which is that conversation is so stupid though, because he's that's how you
are talk like that's what I mean. Like this movie is like it's took
a time cast, what's a productive It's time like all this kind of like
joke, Like you know, Scott seems like kind of like the classic jock
dude, and like Wolverine is kind of like kind of the outcast, but
he's a bad boy. He's a bad boy. He's all like the bad
boy, but she's with the popular guy type like football player. He's the
one who that your mom says, stay away for that boy, and he's
having this cigar and his you know little bit. I agree with that.
The scenes dad for me, it's just like the scenes starts with Logan being
like, oh, you're gonna tell me the stayway from your girl, and
then Scott goes, oh, I had to say that she wouldn't be my
girl, and then he ends the scene. But I mean, like heylo,
we stay away from my girl. I actually I loved it. Loved
it because like the way you break it down is so geesy, like it
doesn't really make sense, but I loved it. I quite enjoyed that.
Kyle thoughts on the fellow X men, I think we kind of hit the
nail on the head of Wow, I want to character breakdown. I guess
already said it. Toad incredibly overpowered in this movie. Yeah, I know
we'll get to the lads. That's the second time shout of that. You
can't help. I couldn't just I just couldn't get over it. I couldn't
get over it. I think Jean did a really good actually like the character
gene a lot as well as just as much as Wolverine to be completely aw
that's a big statement, just as much, maybe a little less, but
still still. I thought she did a really good job of kind of the
being unknown of her own capabilities but wanting to push herself as well too what
she could be capable of doing. You know, that's when you see her
putting on the helmet that oh my good cerebral rebro a cerebro cerebral. I
thought there's an eye in there that pH I think it's cees. I think
it's ce b r. Oh. Anyways, when she's put that on and
like our cerebral I kind of liked it, but then like im trying to
anyways. But some of the times when she was using her power like moving
objects, like when she went to go inject the some sort of syringe into
Logan and just like watching the special effects of just like it lifting in one
direction and then like slowly going across the horizontally and then she just like kind
of slowly grabs it. It's like, all this is awful, superhigh like
whatever, and then she like goes to put it in and it's like,
oh, this is bad, but I still liked it. But anyways,
like I think she did a really good job Cyclopes. Like I think it's
just kind of like classic narrative of the product at this time, Like I
said, before the two thousands, where it just felt like all those characters
are kind of put in, but now they kind of have powers instead of
well that theme I guess going with it, and now they have to work
together and it's kind of the breakfast club. I guess, very less or
best for breakfasts, but just like just groups of people who are different that
has to work together. It is. It's just that like obviously, and
that's why you might see it when we get these new X men. But
if you think about just in this movie alone. Yeah, all you can
describe Jaw like him as is the jack guy, right, that's all I
can think that. Yeah, Like I don't know what you describe Storm as
you describe Gene's like the love interest, you know, like they're all just
like they're just a sentence. What are your character? Boom? And that's
it. Other than Logan, they don't get any And I think Rogue does
get like some scenes on development, but the rest of them are just kind
of there. But it's like, I think that's fine because like this is
a movie where you're starting off like everyone kind of knows like an idea of
who Wolverine is, but like not like Cyclops or Yeah, I think that's
the main reason why, And that's why. That's it's kind of confusing why
they use Rogue as like the main character, but like I guess it's just
more to get more interest in either through like the younger generation or to add
the kids, right Kyle or the kid kid I think she got because I
don't think Logan is someone you want to start with though, because I think
he's supposed to be an outsider, and if you start the main character,
the outsider he's not right, and I think they didn't want to take any
of the like qure x amounts. I feel like, how's like, what's
the way we can get a windowing in this world but have someone kind of
new and fresh, right? And I think that's what reason she's in there,
and her being younger, you give Logan a reason to protect her,
you know, that sort of deal. And then obviously, if you're watching
this for the first time, when you first like get get Magneto's like intentions,
like you kind of think that he's after Wolverine, right, because that
that's what they're kind of hinting at. And then obviously it's Rogue. But
I don't know that's some two thousand Okay, let's talk about because after well
actually went to what do you guys think about the whole scene of like the
school introduction, because obviously that like Jackman's knocked out at which is very scary
scene. Hate has a catcher putting the needle in his arm, you know,
deals with but then he breaks out and then he's running around, he's
around the voices, he runs into class, he's like half naked, his
four children put a sweater like sweat Yeah, really grabs the Sweater's like,
what okay, if I was like running around scared, I would not go
I would this closet and here's a sweater. I'm gonna put it on because
my moment of showing my like top is done. Yeah, even then you
know, bare chest. But then they kind of giveing a montage Xavier explaining
what the school is, what all the mutes do? A thing like that.
What do you guys feel about like the introduction x mansion or like they
like, well, I liked it because it kind of puts in the mystery
of like you don't you have no idea where you are? And then he
goes up a level and then it almost seems jet It almost seems like there's
another person, like in the elevator. It's like, come on this way.
But it's just like Charles in his head, wouldn't he go on the
if someone said come in the elevator, I would not go on, especially
if it's like in your mind. Oh yeah, he knows in his mind
though he's looking around. But then when you get in, there's no one
there and the door opens up, well the door closed before he could jump
out. Oh but no, he kind of looks at It's like, why
would he have gone in there in the first place. I would have stayed
at the bloat, Like Nope, yeah, trap, it's a trap.
Definitely the plot need him go that way. But yeah, I don't know.
I liked how Charles was just kind of like speaking to his speaking in
his mind and just kind of messed around with him. And then he doesn't
know if he's in at like a prison, if he doesn't know like where
the hell he is. Yeah, and then it like shows like the kids
just running around and he's kind of puzzled, and then Charles kind of leads
him right into his classroom kind of talks to him. Uh. I don't
know. I liked it because it's like it's it's hard to say because I've
seen this classroom for so long, like decades now, of all these movies
where it's like this is the first time that we kind of see it.
So if you watched it for the first time, you're like, wait,
this is a school for like newts, Like what's going on here? Yeah,
and then you get dantro like kids are playing basketball side and he's using
their their power. Yeah. I think there's a quick shot laying montage where
she's like at Jean, Gray's like throwing plate test on and he's like he's
like shooting them down. It's like, all right, that's like it's just
like a product of it. But I'm still gonna call on up. Uh.
Yeah. I really liked how it ended though, because like wil Rain
was just so set on just like like screw you guys, Like you guys
have your little like nicknames. You guys are just lame, dumbest thing I've
ever heard, like blah blah blah. And then Charles just like gets in
his mind. He's like, we don't like I've I have my tricks too.
It's just like a little like one line he's like, it's like what
is this place? And then yeah, it goes that montage of Jean and
Scott showing up their skin. And actually, at first I thought it was
kind of cheesy and like being in the school type thing, but then now
kind of what we're talking about right now, I'm just switching. It's just
like the volume is because you moved away. Look, this is for insight.
This is the first time km Kirk when you're using the mic, so
quite the adjustment to do. Sorry, Spikes, it's all good. I'm
so sorry. Just dude, like what I got a good I got a
good whatever you see with that? Yeah, yeah, you don't have the
cast you've done though with these like four four times more than That's what I'm
saying, you don't. I thought it's been more of a fanta fior of
back close unless you unless your brakes, like to just mumble into it.
But it's good, but it's not sad. That's why I talk. I
sit back a little bit because you still hear me. But you know,
well, what do I sound best? That's close? Like a mumbler?
I think no, I think it's better to be further back. The last
chance of Spike. Yeah yeah, yeah, cool enough. So it's just
as long as you're directly talking into it. And again they won't hear it.
Kyle's so worried. Kyle's I used to being live. He's like,
oh my god, the fans or anything credits. I'm just so confused.
Oh my god, this is awful. No, So back to this school.
I think it was a good intro, and it was actually kind of
funny how they're going back and forth on all these names that they're calling each
other like their real name, but then they go like with their I don't
know other their code name name storm Storm and Cyclops, and it's just like
poking fun of them. It's like, your name is Wolverine, Well,
no, that's just its name. Yeah, But like but at the same
time, it's like you can't really poke fun at someone else when you have
like just as bad as a name. It's like Storm cycloves what we call
you Wolverine. Wow, But Nola thought it was a good intro, and
like you can definitely That's why I like you, Jackman in this movie,
because after that, I think you did a good job and just like realize,
like, hey, like this is like people are like me as well
too. I'm not the only one where I feel like before he's always kind
of felt like he was the only one doing his own thing maybe mm hm,
even though like we all know about like mutants and how they're against well,
he was like an experiment though, so he was kind of different for
the news. He still is mutant though still still but you doesn't know what
happened to You don't know he was an experiment, right, right, He's
just having those weird I know too much? You know too much? No,
but that's that's what I enjoyed it. But like all the characters together,
and I think we touched on it earlier, is that they do a
better job together than being separate from the X Men's really like solidify that idea.
So then for you and obviously it's completely different. Are you opposed to
with these new movies of them doing a like a Cyclops g movie, a
Storm movie then leading up to like Avengers, like kind of what they did
with the MCU because somebody said that could be the route they go, right,
instead of doing just X Men, they do kind of let's say you
got no cap, you got the Miron, then you gotta build your big
stars. What if it's again like building up to their Avengers, but it's
X Men. I feel like you would still need to throw in like some
supporting characters though, Like you can just have the Toad movie. Oh you
could, well, I think Cyclops in Storm at the beginning story because that's
how like you know, it's like it is only Sydeclops in Storm. I'm
pretty sure that save Rogue and uh yeah, yeah, so you could maybe
have that, but I don't know. I feel kind of weird because unless
they do a better job of explaining the characters and where they come from.
But they I guess it's hard because right now you have no idea. But
later on the road down the road that you find out about Cyclops and like
how he got his powers and like the struggles that he kind of went through,
But you don't get that in the first movie. So we're talking about
the first movie. No, I meant I not have men in these movies.
I meant like the but even in the newer movies that would be better
if they did, like I wouldn't be opposed. But then Kirklands, right,
you can't just have one character you would have Yeah, that's what I
think, but under two I did Guardians right, and no, no the
fuck those were, and I think they could do like I don't want that.
I want just like an X Men movie start that I don't like,
but that it would be Guardians. What that would be? Guardians? Yeah?
And I want that. You don't want them separate? I don't.
I don't know. I don't want like it just a Storm movie. And
then I and then because I don't confused, I don't because somebody have said
that might be the rough thing go because right they did that with Avengers right
in said just doing Avengers and writing them off, they went, oh,
we're gonna be iron in the first making me cap. I don't want X
Men to be the like event movie. I want that to be the movie
and then make an event movie something else. And that's just that's just so
just to clarify you, you're not you're not talking like are you talking like
the X Men? Like there would be the X Men the girlone. Yeah,
so the X Men would be the Guardians and then when they when they
meet Iron Man, blah blah blah like all those other guys. That's the
Avengers woman. Yeah, that's what I thought you had, like the standalone
movies of like Jean Gray. But some people have said that what if they
do that? That's what I'm saying, That's what I'm trying to get your
opinions on. It's not a bad idea if they did that, though either
like I would notice it because how else are they supposed to build up their
characters? If the Gardens all right, I think it was good. They's
get a smaller roster and more succinct and like focus on them you know,
not just make it like I honestly think, and this like what the show
will be about. I think they won't do Wolverine right away, so I
feel like they should instead of with this. I feel like they're clearly like
Wolverine's our main character and the rest of them are just kind of around.
We're guardians Chris Pat's main character. But I call them at the showcase.
That's what I would want. X Men I don't want, and I'm fine
if they do it, but I don't want, like I said, a
store and be a genius cyclops. I want them as a unit. I
really do, But I just wonder for you know, money wise and even
time, you could learn more about those people than right so and it's a
big dealer and then it would be like better like the X Men, like
growing as like a group than just like being like already a group of established
groups. So I think that would be like a lot more interesting. Like
if I were to watch this movie again, like well, well we should,
if we would replay I guess this whole X Men origins. I guess
that is what's happening right now. I wouldn't want already like, oh we
already X Men's Like, well, how did X Men form? Like I
want to watch that progression would be like the X Men group, I like,
and that's how all we built the school and this is what we're doing.
And yeah, but like then it would be more interesting. You'd be
more involved in like seeing all these in that way, you can have your
outside characters and like, okay, well how will this character fit in this?
Like how do all these characters will become one team kind of essentially like
Avengers by the X Men. I think it would be a lot more interesting
because otherwise, wowy Kyle's on that full nailing. I actually switching on and
because otherwise you kind of just have like your team and like, okay,
well we're gonna add maybe another Because X Men is a big team, it
can be a massive can hear lots of characters, It could be a whole.
That's why it is its own universe almost by itself for a while.
Yeah, Like even these original movies, like they had their their small X
Men's team kind of like what they had in this movie. Storm sydeclops you
throw a logan in there kind of near the end. He's kind of a
yeah kind of. But then but then you add more movies than they like.
The team grows though, like they introduce Beast, they introduce and they
never really flesh them out. But but they keep adding this so I don't
know. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's a bad route to
go. Yeah, but like we weren't seeing it, Yeah, I guess.
So you see with the vendors zone with X Men, right, that
would be the that is true and they fixed, don't break it right broken
if you have Deadpool and like it's still X Men within part, like it's
not even part of X Men, it's like its own thing, but they
still incorporate X colosses in there. They have whatever that chan teenage das on
teenage Warrant times fast. I'm gonna get into how this is going on,
Charles like, yeah, I gonna help you remember something that's great we got
and that's why another subplots going on. We have the Senator thing going on,
which I don't thinks really needed in this movie. It kind of is,
but not to the extent that you got the Senator. I like them
reveals seen off his like little buddy as mystique. I love the music when
she starts to change for the first time, and she's like, like her
theme of music's really good. They kidnap them, they bring them back your
bass. What do you feel you can go get this all the way?
What do you feel about the center plot? And then what do you feel
about all these films? I got told you got mystique, got stude.
Since since yourstique WHOA, the voice changed? I was I totally forgot about
it. That voice, Yeah, she can do I was not expected.
Well, no, I know she can change the voice, but like when
she was as Mystique, she had like an echo to it. Oh there's
like yeah, like special effects that they don't do that high equal movies.
No, yeah, I was not expecting that one. Yeah, that's the
two thousands things for sure, like creepy looking villa and make their voice something
cool. I know how long did it take her to a makeup? I
have that in trivia, but that's nine hours and there's another stuff for nine
hours. I was like, compared to Jaylaw, very little. But I
think the first Meean Jeram Jennifer Florence did a lot. But now she barely
does not even guess she's Jay Law, and she does like the Red Man
efect for it's just c G. I me, no, she doesn't.
She'll just get like it's very weak prosthetics. And that's how I'm happy she'll
never play that role again because I like Jennifer Lawrence, but she doesn't care
about the mystique. The mystique. It's hard to have an actress who doesn't
care about the role. It is well to build up a movie anyways,
for sure. Okay, I see you guys the Senator something and then again
a center because he's not done yet. Yeah, we talked about my need
off center senator stuff. I feel like it could have been done a lot
better. I wasn't that invested in his whole situation because like at first,
you just kind of hate the guy. It's just like, I don't know,
it's just another stereotypical like white male in Charge's just like fuck the establishment.
But uh, like you see where he gets mutants and then he becomes
a mutant and then he kind of gets sympathetic of like oh yeah, like
I've kind of changing my mind on this whole thing. But then I don't
know, like you just died. He just just disappearsn't want like what me
worse power than Rome. I forget. I think it was a storm that
I don't know. Someone said to Magneto where it's like he died basically yeah,
the Magneto is like, are you sure you saw what you saw?
So in my mind, I'm like, oh, he's still linging around something.
I think he's gonna pop up surprise appearance and logan them, you know,
so it's behind the scenes. But uh, I don't know, Like
I just I wasn't invested in his character whatsoever. I like rewatched it,
I'm like, did I miss some crazy like subplot that he's gonna pop in
and just change the game, But not at all. So he was definitely
a right off character. He guys a Stanley cam and I don't know when
Stanley like sees him and he said the hot dog Stanley, He's like,
oh I miss that. That's great. Uh yeah, So for him,
nothing really like much more to say. The other villains saying to talk about
Toad, so go ahead. I thought we were saying that. I just
like to what I mean, It's just that Toad was incredible the war Powers
this week, just like he takes on like all of them at once,
and then the leaders like he's just like flexing on them too. He like
he like steals Cyclops Spisor and he's just wearing off the bag. Like these
are the worst train mother Yeah, we're definitely talking about the end of ear.
Yeah, these are the worst train motherfuckers. This guy's powers funny toe
and then like yeah, Charles is like amping them up. He's like Cyclops
and Storm and Jean, they're they're my first dudes. They're like, there's
my a team that's get ship on my tone. I don't know, I
just I thought it was pretty funny, just like as a like me not
being invested in this movie, I thought it was funny. But if I
was like really dire comic book fan, I just saw toad shit on all
my comic book heroes. It's like, what the hell is this? So
I don't know, I thought it was that was funny enough to mention saber
Tooth. I actually liked him. I liked his look in this movie.
Yeah, like it's very like it's not like prosthetics that are so cheap,
see that looks likes from the sixties or like so like CGI that it's like
the CGI is really really bad for early two thousands like it was. It
was like a natural prosthetic. It looked decent. I liked his dark out
eyes, he just like me and his roar. I liked that little scene
when he went to grab the senator and then he just like disappears on him
and then then you just leaves him in the cell. I don't know,
I like, I remember laughing at that when I was a kid, and
like even now expecting that he still got me, I'm like, oh,
dirt the bard. Yeah. So I don't know. I like that character,
like just just to see someone that can kind of go toe to toe
with Wolverine, just like another beasty looking character that can just swing for the
fences. So I liked him, Mengto. I don't know if you want
to like mention his own category, because I feel like we need to talk
abouhim. If you want to talk about more, you go ahead. Okay,
Well I thought it was great. It's okay if you talked about you
tell them whatever you want. Fair. Uh No, just Ian McKellen is
Magneto. There's not much more to say. He just like golden casting for
him or for that role. Him and Patrick Stewart. Great chemistry between those
two and then I was mentioning a Travis like before the cast. It's crazy
with the knowledge I have now of all like the first class X men and
stuff. Is just watching like him walk and like just the way he talks
and just like his little like witty humor. Or. Like it's not much,
but like when that one Holloway scene that you mentioned when he's leaving,
I forget what he says to Charles. Yeah like there, yeah, like
like it just sounded like Fastbender. It's just like, man, like they
did such a good job. I don't know if it's more Fastbender being able
to mimic that sort of, I think it's sa as past beenders just so
shouts out a Passbender. But uh no, I'm just it's it's hard to
picture someone else as an older Magneto than Ian McKellen because he's just golden casting
for that role. So I don't know, I just love them. You
you almost want to root for him because, like you you've seen his his
origin story like that whore, like the evil that he went through in the
Holocaust camps, and like you can kind of like understand his motives for for
why he wants to just I don't know, like, is what were his
motives? He just wants to turn humans into mutants. Well yeah, yeah,
he doesn't know he's killing everybody, like that's his ideas because it's kind
of like, well why would people make a losses and the like get rid
of mute and band and so like paper though, like that doesn't even sound
like the worst like word bad guy unless you have roads and I guess he
really wants little I would whatever myself. But yeah, like like he's that
type of like he's the type of villain almost like in the same category as
like low Key or something. Like you just you you don't want to root
against him, but you know you kind of should because he is the bad
guy, but you kind of feel for him. So I don't know,
I just I love using even McKellen's Magneto. He definitely made Magneto one of
my favorite villains through the comic books because growing up I wasn't I was always
just a Spider Spider Man comic book fan, but like watching these movies,
uh and then like seeing Magneto, it just made me want to invest time
into like researching more about that. So he definitely like built that for me.
So shouts out to him, he built the house. He builds McKellen's
house. We're gonna rock that houseco Okay, so villains total senator to get
you want to mention Tote at least once the VP of this podcast. I
can't believe like this guy just ope, like both of them, like not
even just the whole three like all in the Times, even that Jean Ray's
big movie. She catches him and he just like toe vomits and your things.
So he didn't name savor tooth. Really he's saying no. And it's
been like such a long time since I this like movie that I kind of
forgot what like what happens. And so at one point when Geene Gray was
like using her power to like pick like get him to like walk away and
like move away with with them Rogue, and I thought for some reason,
like this would be a good opportunity for Woolverine to go and pick up Rogue
and like steal it from him. I don't know what you're talking about.
This is this is like when oh my goodness said, like the trade station,
All no, this isn't the trade station. This is way after this
is when Professor X like and Magneto has all the guns pointed towards that's my
favorite incapacitated. That's why because remember, like Magneto just throw him through a
bunch of trains. Oh yeah, but he's regions pretty quick, but he
can still walk him out. Yeah he can, so he's not gonna die
from it, but he still could get like no concussion and maybe he has
to heal for that concussion that like take like half an hour. Sorry folks,
take that theory up. But anyways, like Toad is way Opie,
Like I can't believe that, but whatever is just the way she goes.
I actually really liked saber Tooth. I thought like his costume was cool,
like even like the fur that he's got going. Like, I thought he
was like the most natural villain. Yeah, as cheesy as it was,
it doesn't seem like out of place, Like I don't know, Toad,
Like his tongue was pretty cgi. Yeah, it happens pretty quick, so
it's hard to really like put a negative to it. And his hair is
just green gel it's just pain. But I think they're just like more having
fun with the role than anything else and kind of like because everything he's like
you know when he does takes ye plops classes, it's like such a joke
because they're like, oh, like it kind of brings the fun back into
the movie instead of being all serious, which I think is good, but
it doesn't just some funny thing like when you think of what happens, like
even though it's not a good movie, when you think about the X one,
they find like apocalypse and that's supposed supposedly take place before all this apocalypses
like this mute and god, I can do everything thing and they like fight
with backs with them their fucking toe who like it takes him out so easily.
Oh, they're learning, they're in trading, and that's what I would
want. In the first X Men movie, it's just them like getting crapped
on specific Yeah, and like round two first Marvel Fox movie is just toe
with the main Ladini silent Magnido was I think I think we touched on quite
a bit. I think he did a really good job and he really like
when you think of Makeingo, you see Ian McCallan, it is I see
fast better for that. Okay, Yeah, I think he did a really
good job in that role. And so they did good casting as we said
before, mystique. I think it was good, but like, like,
what do you do with someone who like is kind of like a chameleon.
They just change shapes and so like it's kind of like depending on every other
actor who's doing that her role as well too. But I still like enjoyed
it. I think it's really cool and interesting and like, you's not something
you would think about at the time anyways, that all this person can morph
into another person to be able to do all this evil stuff. But then
I forgot that she was kind of not evil, but just on that side
of the fence. They musing, stand yeah because I remember, and now
the new extra movies just like on the other side of the fence, it's
like, wait, how did this happen again? Because technically the prequels,
there is this weird point where they are prequels to this movie, but then
they changed the future, so they're not they're like new movies. So we'll
get to that one when you get the first class. But yeah, so
technically, yeah, it's like because now in this when they fix the future,
it's like, oh, she was she she would have been good.
Yeah, something happened in the bass and we'll get it, we'll go get
there. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because like having the knowledge of like
the first class stuff, and then I don't know, like she does she
has a bigger role right in these next upcoming movies these No, it's usually
always this like it's a little bigger and saying next in next two, it's
a little bit bigger, and she's some vast moments. But she kind of
just uses this spy in a way. I will sax two is bigger,
but it's not like it's not Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah, that's what I'm like,
That's what I was gonna say. It is because like the Jennifer Lawrence
mystique, she's like the main like part of the And then so when I
watched this, and like she does she does a lot of stuff like she
she pretends she's the same plot like they use her. Well I think you
could care, but like she's just she said, like the one time she
really talks in herself is on that helicopter, which totally threw me for a
loop. I was not expecting that, like people like you are resigning.
It was pretty most I kind of love that, like whatever hand neck kick
she did not go out. She's like a side side of her foot.
She just ras one foot around his neck. But I loved it. One
around his neck. That's a moral combat, like any town. I mean,
the stats move head scissors. So going to this like with the knowledge
I had, I don't know, I just expecting you to like be almost
like the number two thing, you know, like just with like the way
that she would talk and like how she would kind of like lead the brotherhood,
so her kind of has that spy character. I mean, I liked
it. I'm I'm not like Johnny down any in any way. It's just
kind of just yeah, yeah, I'd say definitely savor Tooth is like the
number two and then yeah, and it's so surprise. I know we've been
a little all over, but this is definitely the data comic thing. And
even sometimes we're all this now, it's so funny. I think that both
savor Tooth and Toad get killed off in this movie. Now, like you,
I feel like you try to save villains and whatnot, but especially Savior
too. And I guess I'm talking about the villains now. I like savor
Tooth enough, but I'm not a Fani's version. Because I'm a fan of
commis to animates series. He can like talk and fully like have a character
and whatnot. Like he's not just like good, he's has an idea for
his own. So the thing I always the thing always, even when I
was younger, I caught off her like they do this weird. They established
there's something with Sabertooth and over in right, like save you Tooth. They
kind of like he knows him somehow. He takes those dogs, takes those
are important too, and then they kill them off, and it was weird
that they killed like they established that there's some sort of connection, but they
kill off until we get to the prequels and then in this trilogy and they
never brings their too back. So it's just a weird scripting thing too.
If you weren't and explain the sequel, Why did they add like some weird
advice for the comic book fans. Yeah, I guess so, yeah,
But it's like that's where it's weird, Like the rest of the movies not
really for common fans. Right, They're always making Jofa the costume, so
it was weird. I love Mosique. I think she can be used a
little bit more. But really I think this is an expositionally we will get
in the next film. But X two is the one I really like.
I think she's used well. I don't think she should be a main character.
Toad is just Toad. Toad's just like cannon fodder. He needed to
like I don't need another bad guy, and they probably looked at the roster
from comics, like, well, Toad's a popular character that he is,
Like he's a mute Toad. You know. It's this guy that plays Darth
Maul's playing him, so that's fun, but like he's Yeah, they did
that part if you don't remember where he throws a storm in the elevator shaft
and it kicks a pipe and then he takes an expense around his arms a
tailor. I kind of mentioned that the way that they killed off Toad,
like, okay, it was pretty cool, but like to that Toad that
gets struck by like everything else, it's terrible. It's like there's infinite possibilities
on what she could have said, just like she could have thrown in like
a science bag. She could have thrown in like oh yets, she gets
sizzled or something like like it's like like a fun little pun with like cooked
for like toad legs or something. Everything else. I was like, oh
my gosh, all right, yeah, I mean not even that's just really
I'm really honest, and the senator is stuff for me. It's just fine,
just one of these things that it was like, it's on there.
I like it enough because like I actually do like that scene him in store
half but like when he is not you didn't mentioned that though, and he's
like, please don't leave me. I just need to be with something.
And they have that back and forth and then okay, it's a little bit
of bondy and like like why are you fear or like why do you hate
humans? Because yeah, they kind they're turning to understand. It's like all
these things. And then he says to her, he's like, well,
I guess you have one more person you don't have to fear. And then
he just turned to this blob. It's like the scariest thing. You know.
It's not he doesn't, but like I felt like when he was saying
it's like, no, I think he's just he's just It's like it's like
when you're about to throw up and you can kind of feel something going on,
like, I don't feel good. I think it's just the writing is
not that trump. Everything's very on the nose. So it's just like he's
gonna say the most stuff that you'd only say on your death bet. And
then he's on his death bet and he dies and a very was like a
brutal deaths drown he's drowning. Yeah. I just thought it was so funny
though, because he's like, you have one less person to fear, and
then she literally is like terrified as he's just like liquidizing. I was laughing
pretty hard. Trust me, if I see killer breaks that you bump into
him, I trust me. No, no, no. What I was
gonna say is the senator stuff to me is all fun. The only thing
I really like is the ending when mystique like replaces him. I see that's
a fun thing. Well in the second one, but that's a fun really
thinking. I think that's a really well thought thing. I don't think you
need the whole subplot yea of him being in the next mansion, this and
that. I think it works just fine. I think you could have found
the way that just like introduce him in the begin of the movie. Give
him one over seeing the middle and the end of the Where's Mistique? Man?
Oh, they took out the sky out of the whole mission, But
I do like that. I think that's a fun little kind of cliffhanger.
Yeah. I think it's just more to get that theme across of like it's
okay to be like one person, like we're not two different identities. Yeah,
like the storm stuff like actually, yeah, I get that, I
think just because it is so just on and know in that scene, it's
just it's not there's no tact that and he's dead, right, So it's
like this character develum. Not that I want to see more of it,
but it's just gone right away. It's like, okay, going back to
that end scene, I did really like it, how like mister chefs,
this mystique escapes and then you don't really know what happened to her, and
then honestly, I'm not gonna lie, so I was still feeding off that
knowledge of all the kind of foreshadowy. It's like, are you sure he
died? Blah blah blah. I'm like, oh my god, you lived.
He's gonna change it on the inside and then shut up. It's mystique
I'm like, oh, no, he's dead. He's he's in the draining,
okay. And then after that we got oh, I guess're gonna talk
about this guy. So Robes kind of going around. She's just and I
gotta love though that. Like, so Logan waits up. We're still this
point in the movie. But Logan waits up, and that's when like Xaber's
saying, like the school and he gets the montage and everything like that.
It's Rogues already in the classroom, and it's like she's been there for a
day and Xavier's just took it upon himself, like in Roll this Girl.
It's fine. I find that Logan's still like he's still waking up trying to
figure ou everything. She's already fucking learning lessons and whatnot. What do you
think about her, because honestly, this is another thing with the steak.
She uses the Rogan bob RelA should to get in the school. How do
you what do you guys feel about Bobby? You know, Bobby and Rogue.
Oh classic two thousands across the tips. I really like I can't sewan
ashwell. I really like him. We'll get into the other movies. I
like him and this movie's bare. Then he's just like the cute boy Robe
likes. But I I think he's fine it. I love that even in
the scene where he's talking to Rogue, they added when he's talking, you
can see his breath and that's so cool because yeah, yeah, it's dead
heat summer Wiley. Yeah, olds, because he's icing. I love I
even like that rosy things. It's just like a cool little effect. So
I like the setup and I like that. Yeah, he's a cute boy
she likes. I think that's a perfect way mystique like fucks with her and
just like you know, Xavier's pistol. Yeah, he's like miss stek find
out what guy to go for. Yeah, that's like a little bit of
the top of the front of most time. That's gonna be even with to
Day's the Future Past twenty fourteen probably cost but yeah, yeah, it is
a little of a leash. We didn't mention because that's the moment where I
assuming everyone's seen this movie, but where Logan's having his nightmares, stabs Rogue,
Rogue uses his powers, you know, So we get to that point,
Bobby's like, oh, yeah, see he's mad, He's You're savage.
You didn't call they got to his last see in the movie. I
don't know. I was supposed to beat her for lunch. Well, I
guess he's playing pool there at the end of I was supposed to near for
lunch. But so I think Kyle's Harderson, right, that really makes no
sense. Like she says some d knowledge, but I blist she was just
like scoping out the place and kind of saw them. Yeah, she was
in that class, just like she was the Rose. Yeah. Yeah,
not much to say about that character in this movie, just because the only
real like main point he had was as mystique. But it's hard to like
just disregard the knowledge that I already have of like the later movies on how
that character kind of grows and then uh like in the classroom his buddy with
the fire, and then how he like turns into a row yeah Piro,
and then he like joins like the brother. You know spoilers movie two and
three. They're they're enjoying those like the two arcs area. So uh yeah,
not much more to say about Bobby, but like just the little Yeah,
I don't expect him just throwing just like a little I don't want to
say cameos because they're they're kind of just really like flat side characters in this
but like pyro Let's going on there, but all good, guys, it's
all good. Keep going with it was a mi amount they had to justice.
So stuff in my knee. Okay, Kyle, so words just because
Kay, if you were watched on video version, he just looks like a
bird's end of the room and he's like like looking around me, you're all
so many sounds now, yeah, I uh you know, any think are
more more? Okay, just watching this movie he gets me excited for the
next couple of movies, obviously the build up and then yeah, Rogue Lee
is Logan's going after it. Like the first thing that happens, Logan asks
for Rogue when he wakes up from like the whole yea even nice guy,
so he is their whole idea. That's the first time he gets to re
bro. Uh, they're gonna go track down Rogue. Then we get the
train scene and like when Kyle sam earlier the toad and uh savor two being
my controlled whatnot? You had the big plot. I really like that scene.
Like I like the whole sequence. I think of the train everything.
I love the twist because you are thinking, like why because even now watching
this movie, no, he has won Wolverine. The Sabor does bring that
up many times. He's like, there's much more powerful mutans, like what
does he want with this guy? And really, as a dumb kid,
I didn't think about but I was like, yeah, what does he have
any need for? Just like this fucking metal guy? Right, So it
it works. They should have probably should have found that out earlier though,
and like next one should have put two and two together. Maybe there's two
people that was in that car and they don't even think of Roe was a
possibility, you know, but that's fine. I mean Green Dray, I
mean Green Greg and Green all of them dream Greg guys. I know you
guys go because look, she didn't have a codey like you've got Cyclops,
you've got stowing ole ring green, but red dragon like you running green dragons.
Ye, Jean, I look green and green. Overen's like that's great.
What were you gonna say about Jean Ray? Uh? Well, I
guess she's more powerful, but like they don't know at the time, right,
Like no, But the thing is so those munes were so logan and
rope. They're traveling them the Canada, right, they get crashed upon,
they get taken and for some reason they think Magia wants over the whole time
because they was like, no, this guy's don't really that strong. Why
wouldn't they have ever been like do you think he maybe wanted road? They
don't say it because all of sudden they wanted to be the twist of them.
But I like, saone knows like how powerful Rogue is until she like
almost kills you, I know, But I mean like in the movie,
they don't even discuss as a possibility, right, yeah, that's what I
mean. Like that's where I think it is like a it's like, you
know, a product. But like she's a kid, right, like they're
kid. Well she's young, I guess, yeah, but she's still powerful.
You're maningo word, what did you say? They're not picking that well,
I know, but there's like a roll in the school. They should
be thinking that, you know a little bit, right, like for some
reason, But it's it's fine sense of the choice. It worked. It's
quickly. You were saying you loved it particular scene talking about this sequence now
because they were almost at the end, so yeah, so just to clarify
with so, so when they go outside and the scene with the guns and
they and all the cops outside of the train station, Yeah yeah, okay,
okay, what did you think it was? I don't even know.
It was like a field of something a train station. It did not look
they cleared, not shoot that, look like they shot that like a university.
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know where lots of cops can park their
cars you stand behind them. Yeah. But even like when I was younger,
I remember that just being such a memorable scene, and you know,
like this there wasn't too much out of place Sea Giant like it seemed normal.
They had some cops cars. The whole thing is brutal to Yeah,
I mean you could have just like backed up a little bit. I thought
it was don't he fall on you though? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
And I think it all see the product of his time, I think,
Yeah, of course. Another good thing is I think he also shows how
far Xavier's willing to go, because he's not you know, he's fighting the
cause. But it shows the difference where Magio will take wives easily if he
has to, he's not trying to, but Exavier he isn't gonna risk even
though rogue that could be the death of everybody or whatnot. He's not gonna
risk one random car, right because he's trying to put a message out there
that we're good people and we mean while I just yeah, I just I
don't know. There's so many things about that. See, I love Toad
wearing cyclops is mask the bullet thing and just like how Charles just like takes
over a saber tooth and just like grabs him by the throat and they's talked
to him as Toad as well. Because it's just I don't know, like
to this point, like you kind of understand Charles the guy in the wheelchair.
You can read minds, you can kind of figure out where the mutants
are, but like you don't, like, I don't know he's able to
take control of Magno's number two and number three like at the same time of
the Toad's pretty easy, I think to take over. I don't know when
you'll Kicky did more than Tho this one. Not actually, you know,
that's why it was so kind Adam the train sequence, I have one last
hand and said, I think in logan row you know you can talk about
Rogues more. I think they got a good sequence on the train when he's
telling her like, you know, just stick with me, You'll be all
right. You want to give these these dorks? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think they just their scenes togetherything all work really well. Yeah,
and that's yeah, that's why I said that at the beginning, I thought,
like the best part with Rogues with when she was with Logan. Yeah.
Otherwise, like it didn't really make like she was fine, I guess
on her own and she's like dingy hang out with the boy. The boys,
but just one point Empire don't really comb actually oh right, I don't
count came Walter's son. Yeah. I thought again, like it was just
a good touch on the theme of what they were going through with like the
two different ideologies of how to complete the same task as essentially like of they
want their own kind to be okay and be successful and like not dies or
be extinct. I should say, mmm, so they did a really and
I guess that's when I get to see like Professor X and may Needo a
little bit even more of like oh and then well I guess the chest siness
afterwards, is it not dang in the mixed up. But anyways, but
I like the whole sequence that happened, and even with all the cops just
like as scared of the mutanes, and you could really tell like that kind
of like, you know, that's what Mark the newer Marvel movies kind of
miss out. It's like, you know, like these people are scary.
Look what they're doing, Like this is kind of nuts, and that kind
of just solidifies the idea that, you know, like should we be trusting
these mutes when they could be doing like look what they can do and control
us. So I think that also like hits the theme again as well too
of you know, they're not normal people and they could turn on us on
any point of time, so I thought they had the better Yeah that's all
I got. And then after that, so they figure out all they need
rogue and then obviously the sandardize, so they know if Mangeo's gonna do this
experiment, it's gonna kill everybody. Then we got the set piece of them
at the Statue of Liberty. Lots of fighting, and then obviously we need
to talk about that whole ending because it's just lots of fighting. They figure
out how we had to take out Mystique one on one with Wola. Yeah
pretty cool. Yeah, I really like that. That's some cool stuff of
just the back and forth, the you know, the I love the reveal
for Cyclops, how it figures it out. It's just like, how do
I know it's really who your day? You know, it's just it some
excuse me. And some of the early ship really well. And yeah,
I like most of the stuff that happens there. But I think that as
you know, as to quote Kyle, a product of its time. I
think the best stuff is Magneto talking in the x menom and he has them
all wrapped up or talking to Rogue. I think the action other than the
Wolverine Mystique fight is pretty I think it's pretty generic or pretty you know,
all of it's time, you know, stuff like that. And I like
how Mystique des Auta there after getting stabbed ed a coffee on this h but
yeah, and it's a it's again, just a lot happens in that last
sequence, so we didn't mention like that's when Xavier GT like rog gets kidnapped.
The twist happens, the Senator dies, Xavier GO like he takes the
poison they're going to whatever the island. There's a fight, so like just
that that's how they found out it was Mystique who was the senator. Like
stop, stop the show they had Temo in two thousand. But like in
that last half an hour thirty five minutes, like a lot a lot happens
in this entire movie, very short span, and that last thing it's just
like like Xavier's down now and like, oh we gotta go. We're just
like I'm sorry, and then like they walk off and he's all right out
suit up. So yeah, I like it. I think it's a good
enough ending for me. I like it, so I know it's not the
end. But when Logan takes Scott's bike and then he puts on that booster
and it's a total like early two thousands like CGS, it's like, oh
yeah, oh that was great. I forgot to mention that. But the
ending, just like the whole I reads talking about, like the whole YEA
to Liberty, you talk about anything. Love those ps two, like the
graphics moments when he does a little like spin. I think it happens like
twice when he's fighting saber Tooth, he does like a little spin or something.
It's like such like a taken from a PS two like animation, and
then it just goes to like Hugh Jagman just standing there to finish it off.
It's just like, oh that's great. Yeah, nothing too memorable other
than like I like that whole mystery aspect of you don't know if it's your
buddy or if it's mystique, right, and then yeah, yeah, another
scene that happened there is when Wolverine uses his claws to figure out the Scott
goes to the metal detective. Yeah, yeah, that was great. I
found it, found a gift of it used on Paler so that nice,
good work. But yeah, other than that, nothing much more. Yeah,
the Banning's is pretty I think so too. Like I I feel like
by time, like this movie goes so quickly that there's like we can like
beat it, like we can talk about it, but like there's not really
much more to talk about. When it's all very generic and there's nothing building
up. It's kind of just like fight scene after a fight scene and they're
just going back and forth. So yeah, I wanted to say though,
because when they're when they're when they send Logan up there to to it goes
that great animation that Travis loves when his claws get all bent back and everything.
Oh yeah, but like before when that happens, going back to the
nicknames, like I swear, I don't know, I swear like Logan's called
him Scott like at this point, but like it's a super intense moment and
he's like Cyclops, can you take the shot? And using his nicknames on
the system he was an X but now he is an X man. I
don't know. Yeah, it just made me laugh, so because there's like
it's such an intense moment. It's just like Cyclops, you got the shot.
It's just it's sounds kind of off, and I like their little plan
like it's very on a budget X men of like you're gonna float when he's
fled and yeah, yeah, I like, yeah, I like the little
buildup of you know what, who's Scott gonna shoot? How do you use
their ultimates? Man? It's like a Marble line. So it's just like,
you know, you save your ultimate power from the big boss fighting when
you're fighting whatever. That guy's name is, Greg bar Greggart for Doom we
Have, Do you know exactly what I tell Yeah. Yeah, I thought
it was funny when they're going Geene and Scottford going back and forth of like
oh who is gonna like when is he going to take the shot? And
then it's like sticking forever and like okay, Scott, like if you're supposed
to be the point man, like you should just do it, Like why
you waiting? So I think what happened was I think he was trying to
decide to shoot Wolverine or Magneto. That's why I think he was trying to
sign what why would shoot Wolverine? Why you shoot the device? Yeah?
Yeah, because if you shoot the device, that could kill they established if
he shoots the device, that's gonna automatically kill Wolverine, a rogue or at
least Rope. So just get rid of Wolverine. Well, well, it
is either you're trying to get yeah I know this. You're you're trying to
get Logan enough times off the machine, right, but it's spreading out,
So I either if he doesn't get in time, I have to shoot the
machine slash Logan. It's gonna kill him, but I'll save everybody, or
I'll shoot Magneto. But once I shoot Magneto, which doesn't actually make much
sense. You can actually shoot Magnedo and then go back up and see if
you're gonna shoot hisself. Yeah, actually it doesn't make And now this Smoan's
in rooined for me. Now every time I watch this movie, like,
I like this one, Now I don't because he can shoot multiple times.
Yeah, he's probably yeah, oh boy, gosh, there's someone else that's
gonna add here at the end. But I can't remember. We didn't really
touch too much on the whole gene and Logan. I was just gonna do
that because obviously then, like so rogues about die. I like the scene
I love I actually really enjoy the score in this movie. I like all
the music. I love that score. I think it's called Logan a rogue.
When she's dying, he puts his hand out like he's trying. Then
just that moment where he realizes, you know, all the cuts are coming
back really good. I love the score there. And then yeah, we
did touch upon this because when Coot shoots Magneto and it blows up and you're
not sure if Logan's actually she's like shuddering. How many days this has been.
It's been like two, right, maybe a week. And we've all
been there. We've all been there where we've fallen from people very easily.
I've been ever fallen up for someone in two days, though, or a
week. I'll give him that. A week, actually, you can give
it. Let's go four point five. It's been four days in a night's
stressed. She clearly has already feeling some stuff for him. And Logan at
the end they had the scene where he's what he had all the bandages because
he was healing a bit slowly now but you know, shipping bang, it's
all gone, and then uh, you know, all that tickles, and
then she says like, oh, she has a few more of your characters
to create for Fred Rogue. And then Logan's like, oh, well,
my heart belongs to Sonya. It's been four point five days character the Boxley
Northern Alberta. Oh yeah yeah, and he's just he's gushing out for her.
I think they don't do anything to like I'm trying to think, because
didn't even touch upon that scene we talked about so we bobbo him, we
talked about Scott and well right now they're back and forth, but they don't
wanderstaw why she would be attracted to I think she would be attracting him because
she knows his past and what he went through. And I think, why
would you be attracted to that? Because you feel for him, I guess
you get soft because you know he didn't tell you what happened to him but
you but he doesn't. He can't tell you because he doesn't not know.
But like she think that's the thing that she knows. She understands him more
than he understands herself. Fair enough, I think they think like doing that,
he's she's a little more attracted to him. It's very service level,
and I think it's just almost just as she likes the battle. I'm really
preaching you are because they want many scenes together. But yeah, and they're
trying to go through for the comics and animate seris. They have this like
love trying all the time, and in this movie they definitely put it in
there. It's just it's forced in there. It's justly forced. And I
know we've said it many times, but I'm just gonna say it, really
quiet dragon, it's a product him. It's time. But because like I
don't know, I think I know what I'm naming this episode, but like
the I don't know, I feel like in that era of movies, like
you're kind of forced to throw in something like that near the end. It's
just like I don't know, like, oh, he loves her own.
They definitely leave it open ended about like more sequels to come, but like
I don't know that like if it never happens. We got to mention that,
like oh he did love Jeene and all these things, but like,
yeah, it's very very soon. Yes, so it's not even that just
even their first scene together and I get what kind of say about the Myrene.
They just give him a little bit more reason why I can buy him,
maybe like here just because he's like your track two or classic dude thing.
But like right off the hop just checks her right out. It's like
oh man, yeah yeah, but like just something to show they have something
in common or some reason why he would care for us and just like looks
and whatnot, Like just one more scene. I think that is because that
would have been good too. I think that is just because of when the
movie came out. But it's just like something too, like all feels like
it's just like she's a Scott, but these do really want to bang and
that's about it. Like, but he loves her, you know, he
has that his heart belongs to her. Yeah, I think you're I think
maybe one we're seeing would have been good of her, like explained, not
explaining, but like another reason why she would like Wolverine just to see like
at the middle of the night, like let's say their vote, they can't
sleep and they're just talking like nothing, they're just talking. Maybe show like
even then you can show more software side of him again, or maybe she
maybe even think that's a chance for her to talk about herself, because we
don't learn nothing about g Gray in this movie. She's just oh she's whisked
off and she likes walmering. That's her character. So maybe just a line
or two about like who she is, you know, or even then like
working together at some point and we'll try to solve like where this could person
be. And that's where they like, the two of them somehow for whatever
reason, get them off well, but like move into a different area.
Is they had those planets aligning though, because Charles told Storm and uh like
the cyclops to go to the train station. So it was Charles like you
said, like you said, I need a screwdriver to tighten my mike over
here. But so it's Charles, Logan, and Jean and then the train
section. No, so they're the only ones like in their bat cave or
whatever you call it. So then Charles go at school. Is that when
Charles uses cerebro or am I kind of blendant scenes together? I think you
are, because I don't know what you're talking about still about just went for
the train scene? Yeah, so he actually yeah, because Logan ends up
just going anyways. Yeah, No, Logan already went because he storms in
that scene too, though you know we're saying he's saying Storm and the cyclops
who went because Charles told him to go because he didn't want Logan to leave
because they still thought Magnetos after Logan. Yeah, so there's your opportunity of
just having Jeane and Logan in the house. Knows Scott he had to get
to the training. I know, so I didn't think of but it could
have been Gene was going after Logan because she knew that he left, because
the other two already know. That's that's still not a big character scene though,
it's just then doing action stuff. I'm saying that they had the formula
to have a little scene between Gene and Logan, and then I could have
told him tried to convince him out of leaving, and that's that's how that
would have worked. Once again, it's something we learned nothing about her though
they don't learn anything about her. We're trying to defend. We just accepted
the feat. Let's see. And then yeah, movie ends with Magneto.
He got the you know, the optic love that little prison room he's into.
Yeah, he's in the chest. He's in the chest. He's in
the prison playing chess, and they set up the great scene of just like,
oh, what you gonna do if they come to you? Then and
then the poor soul comes to my school and then he magnate off sore loser
saber club Winsay knocks over his chess pieces like come on man, Yeah,
and it just makes me remember the scene in the next movie. You don't
know spoiler alerts how he gets out of there. It's just great. Yeah,
well, I think they kind of allude that he can easily get out
of the building, like so as easy to think though he's not like they
they kind of both know he can get out. Yeah, he knows,
he knows. If there's a will in the way, maybe that's gonna find
something, you know, So it's not the end of the world. And
I think it also like solidify the relationships that they have is that you know,
they are both on opposite seems like opposite sides, but they're really like
still like understanding. I have a deep understanding of each other, which I
think is really cool. M m Andy stand on the movie, I don't
think so. I'm ready for Trivia's together. Wait, we gotta give it
a rerating. After Trivia, Oh yeah, and I got quick just other
notes, I was gonna shut out, just like lines like the second time
when they Scandal Wednesday and Manning on his body and just goes, oh,
we couldn't win to hit my shirt off again, huh And then she hits
the bund of like that on that note when she first went in there or
sorry, when he first went in there, I thought that was an MRI.
I'm like, he's gonna get fucking part like that. I'm just gonna
kell it to the part. And then it was like so I was,
I was. I was happy it was enough of torture. It's not this
week. I said, everyone's in charge of if anything, magn you don't
have a metal great job, Metal guy, metal stuff guy, because like
when he goes to see the Center and he's walking and he's forming that bridge,
or when he has to take those balls like bouncing, but it's just
his mind anything metal, and even at one point when he's walking and talking
to the Center and the center's just like slowly moving behind mental chair. Like
I think they do a good job, yeas little stuff, but sometimes people
don't even do that. So I think they did a good job of making
sure like this guy, you know, yeah, he controls metal. Now
we're gonna show. I forgot to mention the bridge part because all yeah,
like you said, like he does control metal, and metal is kind of
like everywhere in our day and age. But it's just like, yeah,
it also shows just the power that he has because it's just like even when
he's just talking to Sabertooth and then you have like I forget what it's called,
but the ball's thing, like it's just like no one's fun Ei there
something about I don't know, Kyle, I don't know I should know that
stuff like stuff that like Newton's Cradle or something like something like file and oh
pulling on his phone bastards something that I filed in my brand is like non
important, that's stuff. Kuy is like, oh mom, it's not a
three driver, but like it just shows that like he's like he's having a
conversation yet he's powerful enough to just have these side things going on. Really
yeah, just to like, yeah, I don't know, I really appreciate
it. Shuts up in the middle guy, Yeah, no, guy,
I ever did it? And the honest see why I feel like we get
some sort of uh just like idea of Cyclops and his morals is that like
when Xaber's all like coma toast and he's just talking about like how he's gonna
take care of them and whatnot. Like I think you get a good sense
of all he is a good guy and he means well. So I like
that. I think that's the only flashing out that Cyclops gets. Kind of
sucks, but yeah, like that' seeing Kyle, what are those things called
Newton's cradle? I called that's exactly what it's sad. Run the audio back
you you said at first you didn't know something I said Newton's Cradle or something.
Here's a future effects. I won't give you a raise. So trivia,
Hugh Jackman took ice cool showers every morning and filming in order to help
get in the character. The tradition started when jumping in the shower at five
am before realizing there was no hot water, shocked awake, and but not
wanting to wake his sleeping wife, he gritted his teeth and bore it.
Yeah, bore it, before realizing that his this mindset, wanting to scream
and lash out at something but having a hole end, was mentally that he
won. He mentally wanted that in the consistency with Wolverine. He made cold
showers and his Wolverine vibration routine for each movie returned to the character. Even
logan it sounds it said each movie. So I guess he was always motherfuckers
seeing the old showers all the time, and then not to Wolverine. Earlier,
you mentioned he was casted three weeks into filming. Can you imagine a
Worlds without Hugh Jackman as old? Well, when we get to a t
I have some I know the actor for sure, and they have some other
ones that were thrown out there, and then so there's some good facts here,
and then I just have some dumb ones. This one. Neither Patrick
Stewart or a McCollum now how to play chess, so they brought him Chess
match Master to teach them. I hope he didn't cost lots, because I
don't think he needed to teach some chess for that quick film. It's probably
out of their own bank. Rebecca remay and stains make up from a steak
consistent one cautume design proceeds, which covered sixty percent of her body, took
nine hours to apply. She couldnot drink wine you screaming use skin you drink
wine, you skin creams nor fly a day four film because it would have
caused her body chemerastry to be slightly off, causing the prostics and fall off.
Interesting, weird. Yeah, it was pretty good though I already mentioned
this that like start this only movie that Storm has her canyon accent, and
then it's gone, Hugh Jackman guy, his testicles caught in hardness after a
six foot jump off the statue. Already six foot jump. Still that's a
big draw. Yeah, oh boy, christ in Peace. Yeah, I'm
not sure this one's making rounds recently, but I still thought I was find
to throwing because we're only being one retro, so why not h In an
interview, and Hugh Jackman admitted that when he initially took the wolf woverine,
he studied wolves to develop the character, since he thought the wolverine must allude
to wolves. The director later explained about the wolverine is a different kind now
and it's a large speaking badge or it's not in North Europe in some parts
of North America. So and he's still there's a visual story this can't remember
what I think it might be. Jimmy Fallon did this a few weeks or
months ago at this recording, and he's talking about when he's on set and
he's like acting like a wolf and whatnot. In the direct wife pulls mos
like what are you doing? He's like like wolverine and stuff like that.
So that's a funny story. I think that's fair to say since he grew
up in Australia. Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, the
wolverine, Like I even know what a wolve he is? I don't.
Yeah, I don't know what a caangero is. See. So here's the
fun one. Joss read and wrote a draft for the script, but I
got her rejective because, according to reading, it was too quick witted pop
culture reference in tone which didn't fit the X Men. Only two lines of
dialogue from the script were using the fun movie the exchange between Cyclops and Wolverine
and when Cyclops or when what they exchanged tween side Clubs and Wolvering when syd
Clubs suspects he has mistake, Okay, the dickline, and then storm statement
about what happens to Lightning ironically his yeah line, why why did I say
yeah? Joss Ben's line? Ironically. He would go on write a comm
series called Gifted, which was the major inspiration for X one three. More
ironically, he wrote and directed The Avengers so kind of funny that he had
like the worst two lines, the worst. I don't think that your dickline
is bad. No, I'm just saying it's not, like, well,
the way I'll evan it is just because I gets funny. What we're gonna
get now the X Men is gonna be kind of Avenger like and back then
exactly what we were talking about right, like this wouldn't work and they okay,
so they did this type of script. So heard that last line those
storms, Yeah, maybe kill So here's some directors that were approached throughout.
Kathleen Bigelow who was she was attached to directing early to velop. I'm not
sure if you know her, but she did the hurt Locker and I think
it was like that. Robert Rigez and Tim Burton. Uh, I would
have been really weird. I would not have want seen Tim Burton's X and
I did a good Batman yeah, Joel Schumacher who did Batman Forrevrom Batman,
Robin John mctierne who did The Predator, Danny bole Boyle who did things like
a Slim Dog Millionaire, and Transpotting who have Erin, Kirshner who did Empire
Strikes Back. And then Brian Singer was chosen. These are some people that
were up for Rogue. Was Kristen Dunce so you know before Mary Jane,
she was at that Rogue life. Sharon Michelle Geller from Buffy, Christina Ritchie
from like Adam Family and whatnot. And then Natalie Portman turned down the role.
Good wow, I'm trying to picture like Natalie Portman at two thousand,
because when did have you ever seen Martha Tacks? Yes, I think she's
about that age, Like, well, that's a little younger, but she
so she did probably couple years older than well, it didn't like the prequel
for the Star Wars around that time. Yeah, yeah, nineteen ninety nine
years before Okay, yeah, okay, so that Yeah, he didn't exactly
with it, but I get well, yeah, I guess she's probably happy
she's in Star Wars. I'm just wondering what was she now looking back with
the prequels, the way they went, like, I think Star Wars for
sure, really think, yeah, one hundred percent. It's such like a
way bigger following, even though even though her and Ian Gristensen's roles gonna get
made fun of the most in that with that love story. Yeah really,
well, why why would you want? I think? Why did they go
the prequels? I honestly go to like Natalie Portland too. So some people
that were considered to play psychlops Evan Hawk, do you guys know even Yeah,
yeah, Ben Affleck oh it was early but Ben yeah yeah, and
he would play Daredevil too three years later, Matt Damon, which I feel
like anytime you were talking about Ben Affleck tell about Matt Davids. That's why
this was the weirdest one. Then there's munch of other guys that didn't become
anything bigs that did include him, but Vince lawn a Cyclops really yeah.
This is when he was more of a dramatic actor though, because he was
not doing Camy. He was like in the Jurassic Park sequel. He did
the remake of psych Psycho, so I guess I could see it, but
I don't think that would have been a great choice. So I just picture
like his hairline. That's where my mind goes. So let's see so and
then here's these said the three ones. He's time together, he jack when
they said cast three weeks in a filming. Bryan Singer's first choice to play
Wolverine was Russell Crowe, but he turned it down. I think that makes
sense for the time. He's like early Brady, but I hate it.
I think just one in Oscar was about to so it makes sense when I
turned it down. And then other actors who were considered for the role,
Mel Gibson, Aaron Eckhart, who played two basing Dark Knight Rye or Dark
Knight, John claw Van Damn Vigo Morrison played Eric Warn, Lord of the
Rings. Edward Norton, I don't know who that one. Wow, what
a weird character. Yeah, Bob Hoskins and then Ken Reeves Garretsonice. But
the person that was cast was Dugary Scott, but he hadn't drop out due
his scheduling conflicts with Mission Impossible Too, and he was injured in a motorcycle
accident. Russell Crow then suggested his friend Hugh Jackman to the director, who
was cash Rot before filming. So what happened was, I don't sure if
you guys Mission and Possible fans, but he plays the villain a Mission Possible
Too, So he went up to do that and that changed his life forever
because obviously that delayed him from playing this. They had to get someone else
and then kame me Jackman's role on Now he's iconic. So it's just like,
I imagine that guy's kicking himself. Who knows me would have been that
level icon it right, because I think Jackman's perfect for the role. But
still you think you just sit there and think about like yeah, yeah,
like, look how many movies you gonna do before you gotta do it.
Yeah, and especially too because mission impossible to just kind of looked at as
like the worst of the franchise too, so it's not like you, I
can't pitch that actor. What's the name, Dougary Scott, DOUGARYE. And
then this one I had to throwing myself. Yes it's a bad times,
but it's it's still worth mentioning. At some point he let me know on
that Michael Jackson wanted to play the role Professor X, and I know just
for a wow, for some reason he wanted to play older person with around
a bunch of kids in the school by himself. Wow, what a stretch
of role that would have been for Michael Jackson. So yeah, I just
wanted to throw that out there. Yeah, crazy, that some good trivia.
Yeah, well it's gonna be coming. Uh it was still going,
No, it's done. That was I had to end on you heard Michael
Jackson, I wanted to play Professor X. I had nothing more than that.
That's a and I don't even want to even before the bad stuff was
picturing Michael in the chair and just wanted he really wanted to be in color
movies because he also tried to be the Riddler too, so he really and
he I think they're I'm pretty sure you want to be Charger Banks as well
and family us. So there was a time he was really going for these
roles. And thank goodness your directors didn't cast it in any because I think
it just would have not gone now, it wouldn't have aged well really good.
Yeah, So who wants to go first? Final thoughts and rating?
Oh guy, I'll go first. Kyle looks like you suburb I'm still thinking
coming into here, I was the impression of you know I, I yeah,
you know what, all the job, all the Josh and everything that
we did this movie and like pointed out like the pretty bad scenes and stuff.
I still think of this movie kind of. I think it holds up
honestly personally. It might just be personal, but that's all image holds right,
That is true. It's a very very h personal rating. And my
personal rating coming here, I was gonna give it like a nine out of
ten, but I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna join I'm gonna jot down
at eight. Yeah, I'm gonna give eight out of ten. I I
thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I could probably re watch it again. I'm not
gonna say this week because I'm pretty busy, but maybe next week probably won't
happen, but I'm trying to week I'm saying, I could you can watch
X two. Yeah, I'm excited to watch X two, But no,
I overall, I like I like the cast, I like all the characters.
Yeah, you guys brought brought down some I don't know. I was
definitely on the nine out of ten and then you kind of open my eyes
to some just things that I clearly just wasn't paying attention to. But uh
no, I like, Yeah, I love the cast, I love the
the action scenes weren't as great as I remember. Uh, but I don't
know. It's just a fun introduction to this this world of X Men,
and uh it ends off want any more, and I know that we get
more. So it's I'm excited to watch the next movies and just get the
little marathon going. It's good. I think I'm gonna say a six and
a half. Oh, six and a half. I thought, like,
it's it's not a bad movie. It's enjoyable, but it's not like it's
hard. When we're gonna start rating all these movies that are product of the
problems time, and like you have to take into respect of what was happening,
and that's you know, I think in that era it was like an
all right good movie. But I think I think I think in that air
it was probably a great movie for like a common mood, right, Yeah,
I only had like Batman Superman that was about it because he had this
and then inspreading back back. So yeah, I think that's why people maybe
shoot on some of these movies now and it's compared to what we have,
but it's like back then, we were just looking at We're seeing these characters
in any form of guy with finger crop claws on the screen. Right,
Yeah, I'm still gonna get six and a half. I think it was
an enjoyable movie, but like there's a lot of like kind of very cheesy
moments and which is fine, but then they kind of like some parts kind
of bring it down and you know, like the storyline was all right,
it was there, see what they were doing with the themes and their plot,
Like the plot Twister was good too, and it's just I don't know,
I felt like it could I wanted more for from it, but I
like, you know, movies or TV shows with a lot of character development
and a lot more interest in being involved with what's happening, more child actors
and more child actors. But it just wasn't there for me. So,
but that's what we could give us six and a half. I don't yeah,
I would be positive. It's still a positive. What is that?
A C plus? Yeah? There you go? Good enough? Is it
just a yeah? C plus? Definitely? Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna
kind of be right in the mill. I think give it a seven.
I think it's I still enjoyable eat mill kind of kind of bastards. Yeah,
I think it's enjoyable. I like it definitely is dated. It definitely
has some problems, but I think they do a lot of things that I
can still revisit and find it entertaining, entertaining movie. I think the biggest
thing as well is I think the performances is what carries it for Yeah,
that's one of the greatest, I think, just because they don't get to
be but I think you have Jackman, McKellen and Stuart I think those three
are great, so that's what makes it good. I think if any one
of those were waitering you only have the two then maybe not, but you
bounce off a lot, so uh yeah, that's why I think there's some
other good stuff there. You have the actions a little day as well.
But I like to set up I understand I can still enjoy this movie and
not kind of be like, oh man, it's just so old. I
still like it. Yeah, there's some there's some wild cgi in here,
but the great performances really pull forward. So I'm going seven out of ten
on this one. So perfect, perfect. So if you like what we
did here, keep going along where you can see someone. No, I'm
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you can start thing without way I do the plugs, but yeah, so
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day. Oh no, we're not gonna do that. What do you have
now? No, that's all I got. Well, that's what we're gonna
do. Then that's what we have to we have that's oh yikes. Oh
that's a big one. Have it excellent? Are we ready to go?
Oh? I call after night, pushed for a little bit because Taylor he
had this situation then before we started his not his mom, but Madison's mom.
She got her her cars stolen because someone at the pool took her keys,
so they stole her car. The cops chased her down. Apparently she
crashed, flew through the windshield, the cops still didn't catch her, and
then when they got to the car, apparently I was just like riddled with
drugs. Oh my god. Yeah, So he's like, I'm not gonna
make him like yeah, that's fine. We couldn't do another time. But
yeah, I said pretty impresiously. It has been so high. The fact
that she crashed went through the windshield and the cops still didn't catch her,
So it means, you know, she was booking at like so fucking hard.
Oh my goodness, what did she crashed into? I didn't get I
didn't know. I didn't this like how far was the cop to be behind
to not be able to get out of the car chase after or just I
imagine that she crashed. She just fucking rolled and then just went into booking.
Like we can ask you about the drugs too when we record after don
I'll try to ask Taylor in person because well, let Julie say that,
because I don't think he'll have any problem tell the story. He said,
Oh, this is what episode is the laid fans. I wanna tell the
story to that, and we'll have all these questions because tonight he was just
picking up asked, so I don't think he even he knows, Well,
what do you mean he's picking up medicine? Because I think they're going over
there to like maybe it was like a traumatic experience. I'm like, dang,
with the mom or help out or something traumatic experience. Oh god,
I don't well, I don't know. Let me look it up here,
I'll see the exact reason. Why was this cast? I feel like it
should have been like front page stolen and it got crashed. How's that traumatic?
Like she wasn't even I didn't even see her cargets, drunk vehicle.
Just say I didn't. He didn't say traumatic. I put those words in
his mouth. Wow, don't put words in his mouth, Travis. He
said, I have to go pick up mess and after work and then head
to her parents place with her, and then he just told the stories.
He didn't clarify why he needs to be there. Okay, I thought you
were going to ask. I kind of miss what he was saying. I
went to look at my phone, kid, pick that, get up my
notes. He said that. He just said that he had to go pick
up mass and after head to her parents' place with her, So he didn't
say why. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to your first episode,
the debut episode of the X Men Retrospective. I mean to keep it
simple. I am the Wolverine tress. Oh, I am the reginative Kirkland
Patzer, I'm you're a dick Kyle Smith. Okay, fair enough. Classic.
It's a strange of being a quote, but I'll give it to you.
They say the nickname, Yeah, that's what I got the top of
my head. If you have guys by the Nicknames or the titles podcast or
anything else. In honor of Dark Phoenix coming out, which is going to
do the last Fox Dark the last Fox x Men movie, because Disney has
now bought X Men in Fantastic four, so out of this community, we're
not getting any more after Dark Phoenix, so what better time to go look
back? And what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna be taking a look
at X Men to Days of Future past. We're not looking at Deadpool one
two, Logan or Apocalypse because we've reviewed those in like the past two years,
and we usually try have to review stuff that's been at least like five
years because you can't really rec respect on something you've reviewed last year. So
it's kind of and that's kind of like the core X Men films, right,
So that's what we're doing. We're starting to day. If you're on
Patreon, you'll get these early. If not they'll come out in a timely
fashion before the movie drops, have a schedule, thanks very much. But
until then, yes, Patreon get half these if not being at full of
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of other stuff after the lands that were delaying because there's mother in law is
crashing through trees. No, that's on the story. So let's start off
with this so we don't even got to do like a non spoilers because like
it's movie ke on two thousand if you haven't seen this movie spoiler. Yeah,
oh that's the other thing I gotta you know, we're gonna actually redo
that. I wasn't recording. We weren't easily likes oh my alone. Are
we live too? No? No, we don't do live anymore. Okay
anything live? No, because I can match the audio until that's probably the
one day until we get a camera where this can plugging soundboard right now that
record the video and then I take the audio from the podcast and then the
video combine them. But live is still just the video. So that's why
I mentioned the camera one day. Yeah, all right, Take two